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Speaker 3: How's it going?

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Speaker 1: Good? Good? Been hearing you all lot on shows lately.

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Oh that's right. No, I haven't heard you at all,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you did, you'd hear a screeching baby in

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Speaker 1: Well I don't mind that. That's actually pretty cool to me. Yeah,

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it's been a while and I don't even remember the

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, not right now, I don't. I've been

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been in baby mode for a little over a month.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: Well, congratulations, man, it's good to.

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Speaker 3: Hear, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. So, once upon a time, you and

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I read an article by a guy named LORINGE. Gigno

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called Israel the Psychopathic Nation, and that was that was fun.

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So so about a week ago he put out another

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another art whole and unsu uns dot com picked it up,

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and or he wrote a friends dot Com I don't

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know how that works, called the public Execution of Charlie

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Kirk and without like you know, going into the whole

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conspiracy around everything. I mean, I watched a Chris Martinsen

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video this morning. It was like an hour and five

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came from that building it came from, and I'm just like,

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Speaker 2: I just don't.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I when that first happened. I have two

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younger brothers. One of them's twenty four, one of them's

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twenty six. And I've never been a huge Charlie Kirk fan,

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probably for the same reason you haven't been a huge

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Charlie Kirk fan. But they called me immediately and they

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were they were emotional, they were not not happy about this,

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and maybe it's just a generational gap. But you know,

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so much just an implausible amount of circumstantial evidence, uh,

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pointing in the direction that we're about to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And even if I didn't want to, I

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it being in another direction. But you know, one of

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this is a conspiracy. Well yeah, it's a conspiracy. It's

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absolutely a conspiracy. And like it's the group chat got

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freaking laked proving it was a conspiracy. And you know,

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a daily basis taking money from whether it's taking money

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to Netanyahu specifically, that you can't keep doing this. You

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that every we're supposed to believe that. However, many tens

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of thousands of people died in Gaza, every one of

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them was either Hamas or a Hamas supporter, or Hamas

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that's been the go to, that's worked for them for decades.

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They can justify any atrocity they want. And you know,

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as as a millennial, I was pretty apathetic to the

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whole thing. And apathy suits everybody just fine, but being

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apathetic to the existence of the state of Israel is

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not acceptable. And we're learning that the hard way. And

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as this article gets at Charlie Kirk learned that the

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hard way that entertaining apathy is not an option. It

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is not within the Overton window.

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Speaker 1: They're, from what I've seen, the most rabid Zionists out there,

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and you know, the people who basically wouldn't even talk

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about their Jewish background before October seventh, but got activated

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did by October seventh. They either want you to be

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one hundred percent on their side or they're very happy

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for you to be one hundred percent against them. But

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like you said, the apathy, they have no time.

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Speaker 2: For that and that really pisses them off.

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Speaker 4: Well, they're starting to pivot towards apathy. These people are

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very innovative, I want to say. They see the writing

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on the wall, They see the attitudes that the younger

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starting to see this acceptance of well, who cares about

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Israel anyways? And that's being filtered through there major I

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guess they're remaining influencers right now, like apathy is starting

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to be the next best thing to complete acceptance.

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Speaker 2: M all right.

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Speaker 1: So what we found out and they immediately called this

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like a lie, that Charlie was summoned to Long Island.

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Imagine that he was summoned to Long Island of I

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am completely shocked to meet with a group. And mister

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Gignan calls it a cabal, and he says here in

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the article, let's first get acquainted with this, with the

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Jewish cabal that is now the target of much suspicion.

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like I said, I don't know how much we're going

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to get into that because I really haven't touched that yet.

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this happens and they just slammed the door shut on it,

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immediately start cleaning up the crime scene, taint the crime scene,

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and don't release any information about it, don't talk about

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I want to know, like what was the what was

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the grain what was the grain weight of the bullet?

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I want to know what brand it was that was shot?

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Was it you know, was it military surplus? Did he

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buy it at Walmart? You know, as the kind of

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stuff I want to know. And apparently we're never going

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to know this. So and maybe I'll talk about why

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my biggest my biggest thing that leads me to believe

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it's really hard to believe the uh, the the official narrative,

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and it has nothing to do with a two hundred

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yard shot or anything like that. It's something that I

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learned much, much, uh a little later than that. So

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so this Jewish cabal, so the people who met who

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did an intervention with Charlie was the first one. Bill Ackman,

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American hedge fund manager worth nine point four billion dollars,

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unconditional support of Israel's genocide and gods and an important

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contributor to Turning Point USA for about a year. What

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I will say is I think that Tucker is doing

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really good work in that Tucker just for like two

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minutes on one of his streams says who is Bill

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Ackman and why does he have nine billion dollars? Is

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what is he done? What is he smart at?

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Speaker 2: And then.

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Speaker 1: Which what you never do is what Bill Ackman did.

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He went on Twitter and had a friggin crash out

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explaining how how special he what a special boy he

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is that caused him to make this nine point four

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billion dollars that like anyone who looks into Bill Ackman

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is like, this isn't even his money. This is money

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that he's just managing for. Somebody gave him this money

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so that he could put it towards their interests, and

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so it doesn't have to come from them. It's just

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he's just another cutout in this game. Yeah, basically, So

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Speaker 4: Tucker hacked that kind of person's mindset, questioning their competency.

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Speaker 3: How dare you.

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Speaker 1: Tucker has their number? I mean, Tucker will say something

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about net Yahoo and then net Yahoo like you know,

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spins up the freaking webcam and does a video, you know,

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and does streams about how he didn't kill Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Tucker's hasn't been out of the Murdoch sphere for

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that long. He still knows all these people. They he

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still went to dinner with all these people.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: On August fourth and fifth, Ackman hosted a two day

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meeting on the Hampton's Long Island with Kirk and important

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executives and financi here as at TPUSA, Kirk was strongly

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reprimanded for giving a platform to car Rlson in July

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and submitted to what he experienced as threats in blackmail

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over his recent public critics of critiques of Israel's influence

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in America. Benjamin and Yaho invited himself in that meeting

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by phone. So yeah, it was not only Tucker not

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only inviting Tucker Carlson, but having Dave Smith on the

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stage was another thing that pissed them off. Yeah, because

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you know, Tucker Carlson is just a stupid boy. But

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you know, Dave being eighty six percent Ashkenazi, they can't have,

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you know, they hate that even more.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, get to get Charlie back on the reservation, and

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you know, taking away the funding for his life's work

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is a good way to do that. But what happens

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well we can keep answering that. We can keep

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asking that question, all right. Second person, Josh Hammer, speaking

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of Dave Smith. He's the one he debated Hammer at

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this at the TPUSA event and prove that he's an

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Speaker 4: But so is a little background to that debate. So

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and Dave was telling a story about how before that

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and shooting the ship, and uh, Josh Hammer came off

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was something to the effect of and it discussed me

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that I'm on the same stage as this vile person.

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So that's the type of person we're dealing with. Just

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a complete bug man.

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Speaker 1: Well it is either that or I mean he is

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just it's an act.

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Speaker 2: I think all of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when I when I was, when I watched johnjosh

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Speaker 4: Eyes pantomiming being a human.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 1: So Josh Hammer is Jewish political commentator senior editor at

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large of Newsweek who defines himself as a full advocate

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and a believer that jew hatred is inherent in the

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European DNA. We talked about that when we read Keno's

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Israel The Psychopathic Nation. How I think it was. Leo

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and Chris Martinsen made a really good point when Josh

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Hammer tweeted that out. There's a copy of that. There's

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a screenshot of the tweet up here. I am jewish.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: He says jew hatred is inherent in the European DNA,

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and Chris Martinsen said, yep, that which usually gets encoded

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in to the DNA of a people is a survival mechanism.

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Speaker 4: Your terms are acceptable.

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Speaker 1: Hammer is author of a book claiming that Western civilization

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was founded by Moses at Mount Sinai. Hammer was there

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the whole time his words during the Hamptons meeting. On

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the day before Kirk's public execution, Hammer retweeted approvingly a

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twelve year old tweet by Trump mentioning, quote public execution

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for all to see. Three hours after Kirk's death, he

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again cryptically tweeted public execution, which is up here.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, he.

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Speaker 1: Retweeted Trump saying on April tweeting on April nineteenth, twenty thirteen,

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You will end this bullshit fast. I don't know what

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I do right now And josh Hammer retweeted that this

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is the day before Kirk was assassinate, he said, based

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and the day a couple hours after Charlie Kirk was shot,

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he tweeted out public execution.

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Speaker 4: So it's just adding to the mountain of circumstantial evidence.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So all right, next person is Rabbi pessok

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Walicki American I no stop, okay, it says American Israeli citizen,

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Israeli citizen who lives in it, who lives in Israel,

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who presents himself as Charlie Kirk's regular advisor on Israel issues.

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The night before Kirk's assassination, he had a one hour

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zoom conversation with him to practice his pro Israel talking points.

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Josh Hammer was in the conversation Wellicky later reported that

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Kirk was in a combative mood and playing the devil's advocate.

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Speaker 4: I guess when you get told no, that could be

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construed as a combative mood. Why are you telling me no?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I guess after somebody, after somebody is assassinated.

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That if someone's assassinated the day after, you have a

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zoom call on which they're combative. Any arguments that they

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were making against your positions. It helps you to say

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that they were playing devil's advocate, because you don't want

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them to think that they were seriously being combative with

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you and arguing with you and maybe disagreeing with you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll it serves as a very nice message for

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the people that are willing to ah to dig a

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little deeper.

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Speaker 1: Next up, Robert Shillman. I love it American.

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Speaker 2: No, he's not.

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Speaker 1: Businessmen and political financier who has invested in several right

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wing political activists such as Laura Lumer, Tommy Robinson and

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Brilin Hollyhand. I think when it says invested in, I

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think he's probably maybe been in at least two of those,

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like literally been inside two of those. I won't say

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which ones.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to wonder whose private jet Brilan Hollyhand

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was on when he made his debut.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I've said previously that I believe that he was created

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in a test tube in Unit eighty two hundred and

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Tel Aviv just to be their sex slave.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was.

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Speaker 1: Shilman was financing TPUSA to the tune to two million annually,

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but according to The New York Times October one, twenty

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twenty five, two days before mister Kirk's death, mister Shilman

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angrily questioned mister Kirk for giving a platform to mister

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Carlson informed him he was withdrawing a two million dollar

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pledge to turning point.

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Speaker 4: He has a property in the Berkshires in my home state.

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And the other part of that story was that Charlie

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went up to his property in the Birch years fairly

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for before his assassination, and this is where all that happened,

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where he was basically defunded.

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Speaker 1: And this is the fun one Seth Dylon, CEO the

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news satire site The Babylon Beast since twenty eighteen, with

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an estimated net worth of six million in twenty twenty five.

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So what the fuck is he doing there? I mean,

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he's a minor player. What are they keeping him around for.

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Dylan presents himself as an evangelical Christian but acknowledges his

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Jewish heritage. You know, this is as soon as and

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I knew that about this about him, and it reminded me.

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Thomas and Jay Burden are covering like doing a series

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on the occult, and they were talking about the Bayless

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case from Russia circa like nineteen eleven to nineteen fifteen.

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I think the trial went for an extremely long time

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where you know, a Jewish gentleman was accused of insanguinating

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a young Orthodox Christian boy and you know, killing him

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and insanguinating.

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Speaker 3: Him, and that seems familiar.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And then Thomas like went down a whole

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list of accusations and cases throughout you know, like the

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last millennia.

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Speaker 4: Oh, he's pretty extanguination specifically. Yeah, wow, all right, I'd

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like to say I'm surprised.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But one of the things that that Thomas brought up

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in that episode was he was talking about how the

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Talmud says if a Jew is able to deceive the Akum,

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which technically like literally translates into worshiper of stars and planets,

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so he's referring to like Pagans, but also over the

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centuries it's applied to Christians. Says, by pretending to be

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a Christian, he doesn't violate duc trinl or moral law. So,

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in other words, pretty much the same thing as takiya

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in yeaham yeah, all right, it says here with Seth Dillon,

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he was part of the heated meetings with Kirk and

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Ackman in the Hamptons.

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Speaker 2: So it's.

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Speaker 1: Now you had a you had an interesting comment while

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we were texting back and forth about talking about this,

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how did you describe this?

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Speaker 4: So this looks like a The first thing that came

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to my mind is this is a meta cathedral specifically

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tailored for the right wing. And by that, I'm sure

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your audience is familiar with a Curtis Jarvin his idea

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of the cathedral, which is just the ecosystem of narrative,

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narrative creation with the higher education, the political system, and

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the media. And I promise I'm not doing a Curtisy

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Yarvid depression. And yeah, but if you look at the

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types of people in this article, they all represent a

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faction of this, this decentralized ecosystem that happens to line

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up perfectly with a stated goal. And instead of the

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furthering of progressivism, it's the furthering of Israeli interests. And

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I you know, I guess you could describe the parts

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of this cathedral as the donors, the platforms, and the influencers.

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Does that make sense. You'll make your idea on it too.

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Speaker 2: But as as people have said throughout Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Ever since they heard the term cathedral come from from

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Jarvin was yeah, really, it's a better term the synagogue.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think Jarvin would uh like the application

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to be universalized in this way. But yeah, I mean,

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you got your conservative think tanks, your donor networks, your

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media platforms, tp us A being a being a media platform.

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When any when anybody gets off the reservation, the cathedral

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that we know and love right now we have seen

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has no problem sicking their sicking their antibodies on it.

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And that's either in the form of you know, going

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off into the sunset, permanent retirement, or even violence. So

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it's and again this is all circumstantial, and it's it

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all points. It points pretty well in in the direction

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that the that the author talks about. But Charlie was

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starting to become a disease. And you cannot you can't

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have even the entertaining of the question of Israel's existence,

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let alone you know, the Israel Palestine conflict, the influence

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of Jewish people in our society. You just can't have that.

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And even inviting the question was a It's not it's

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not ridiculous to say that they would kill him for

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just inviting that question.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems to me that the his whole Charlie's

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whole thing about I will talk to anybody. They don't.

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They don't line up with that.

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Speaker 3: No, not at all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So having being like, oh, you know, Tucker Carlson's fine,

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you know, I'll have Tucker Carlson speak at my event.

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Speaker 2: For people who.

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Speaker 1: Don't realize this or haven't watched his speech, it was

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the reaction he was getting when he was slamming Israel.

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Speaker 4: Yes, about eighty twenty in the crowd cheering him.

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Speaker 1: Young young people are turning on Israel. Young people are

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starting to make Jewish jokes. Young people are starting to,

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you know, use Jewish tropes that our grandparents and great

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grandparents used.

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Speaker 4: It's it's not only that this started a while ago,

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when when Charlie would have his change my mind booths

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and he would you know, he'd bank on getting like

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these stupid college.

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Speaker 1: That was I think that was I think I don't

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think Charlie had to change my mind.

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Speaker 3: I think that was crowder.

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Speaker 4: But he would you would have an open forum where

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people could ask him questions, and you know, he would

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get the typical stupid college lefties that would you know,

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why do you hate transgender and those were like low

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hanging fruit, easy to pick off. But then he started

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to get you know, people we would say are grouper's

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and start getting questions about you know, Jewish influence and

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foreign policy, and questions pointed at Israel. And that was

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the only time that these young people ever saw saw

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him squirm. So, I mean, you can't have that either,

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But what do you do about that?

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Speaker 1: So July eleventh through thirteenth was the TPUSA event when

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Tucker Carlson spoke and Dave Smith had that you know,

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had that debate with Josh Hammer, and apparently from the

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timeline the they didn't like Tucker talking about the Epstein

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files and how the Epstein files needed to be released.

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And then the following days after that, says Kirk, was

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bombarded with angry messages from his pro Israel backers. So yeah,

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I mean, his his ideology of hey, you know, open

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conversation just you know, leads to more freedom, well, and

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not everybody believes that, Charlie.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that is more freedom is not the goal.

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I mean what I've learned is that free speech to

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me is being on a platform and having a thousand

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of us have the ability to reply to some idiot

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and call them a retarded fagot a thousand times. That

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is free speech. And TPUSA was not about that. It

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was you had you had your safety bumpers, and they

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were all centered around Israel, and you cannot remove those

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safety bumpers without consequences.

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Speaker 1: So August fourth through fifth was the Hampton's meeting and

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Blumenthal Max Blumenthal, who reported on this, said Akman hammered

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Kirk for platforming critics of Israel at TPUSA events. Ackman,

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according to multiple sources, had this meeting to basically bully

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Charlie into submission. Charlie walked away, according to one person,

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feeling like this where there was an attempt to blackmail him.

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He refused offers of funding and also refused to offer

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to travel to Israel and meet with net Yahoo personally.

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And during that meeting Netya who spoke personally to Kirk

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on the phone inviting him to Israel and offering him

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one hundred and fifty million to bolster TPUSA, and apparently

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Kirk said no, Yeah, he declined and that is one

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thing that they don't understand. They don't understand you not

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taking the money.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to be mentally ill, you have to

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be incompetent.

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Speaker 2: You have to be an anti Semite.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but they are starting, like even Netan Yahoo is

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starting to understand that the generation's coming up. He is

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on a timeline. I mean he as he as a Lakudnik.

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He knows he's on a timeline. Anyways, as as soon

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as peace actually happens, he's he's out and he's probably

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getting brought up on trial for war crimes. I've talked

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about this on TL quite a few times. But more

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than that, the unequivocal support for Israel in our political

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system is on a timeline, a slightly longer timeline. We

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gotta wait for the boomers to die off. We gotta

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wait for, you know, the the members of my generation

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to be crushed. And yeah, and that's I think they're

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well aware of it, especially now in the last two months,

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they became acutely aware of it. And that's why you're

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starting to see, Oh, guess who owns TikTok, Now, guess

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who owns Oracle? Guess who's continuing to get billions, hundreds

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of billions of dollars in government contracts and AI contracts.

476
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Speaker 3: Palenteer. So, I think the.

477
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 4: Shift now is to get people to go from hostile

478
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,160
to apathetic, and you're starting to see that with certain

479
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,880
members of Ben Shapiro's group.

480
00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:44,599
Speaker 1: So the day after that meeting, Charlie went on Meghan

481
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,720
Kelly went live with Meghan Kelly and complained about the

482
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,240
repulsive ways he was treated, naming Josh Hammer, you know,

483
00:32:53,359 --> 00:32:58,319
naming him and stating that as an executive director at TPUSA, quote,

484
00:32:58,359 --> 00:33:01,279
I have less ability to criticize Israeli government and actual

485
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:10,480
Israeli is due and that's really really weird. So yeah, yeah,

486
00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:13,480
I mean it's true, it's true. I mean there's no

487
00:33:14,599 --> 00:33:17,039
there's no as far as I know, there's no law

488
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:23,240
in Israel against criticizing the government. And they have ridiculous

489
00:33:23,319 --> 00:33:26,440
size protests all the time, protesting Lakud.

490
00:33:27,319 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well they did on up until October sixth

491
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,359
of twenty twenty three.

492
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: Oh no, they still have them.

493
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:35,039
Speaker 3: Oh they do.

494
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, we just don't. We don't see them,

495
00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:42,279
just like we don't see the damage that it ran

496
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:48,720
did to did to Israel in the bombings Jesus. Yeah.

497
00:33:49,119 --> 00:33:52,200
Then about a week after Charlie was on, Megan Kelly

498
00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:55,000
Harrison Smith from Info Wars sweeted, I was told by

499
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:57,759
someone close to Kirk, Charlie Kirk that Charlie thinks Israel

500
00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:02,720
will kill him if he turns against him. The tweet

501
00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:05,839
drew little attention until after Kirk's death, when Smith confirmed

502
00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:07,920
it and Max Bluemouth all stated that he had heard

503
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,599
the same from another source. So, I mean, that's just

504
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:15,119
basically hearsay, but you know it's rather interesting.

505
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:16,599
Speaker 3: Put it on the pile.

506
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:17,599
Speaker 2: Yeah.

507
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:21,199
Speaker 1: Well, and this next one is is very important. So

508
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:26,559
on August twenty seventh, Kirk invited Marjorie Taylor Green to

509
00:34:26,559 --> 00:34:29,639
speak at the next Turning Point Annual America Fest conference,

510
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:35,280
plan for December of this year. Green is known for

511
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,920
her opposition to the power of APAC and American politics,

512
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,519
and her demand that APAC be registered as a foreign agent.

513
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,760
Kirk had previously addressed the APAC question as in as

514
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,559
in a July twenty twenty five debate with TPUSA chapter leaders.

515
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And you know what I will say is I mean

516
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:55,840
immediately there, I mean, this had to have gone out

517
00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:00,760
from Tel Aviv immediately when she started speaking out against Apak.

518
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,920
This thing went out that she is doing insider trading

519
00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:12,039
and made herself rich, which has been debunked numerous times

520
00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:15,679
because it's well known. I mean, you know, my wife

521
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,599
is from is from her district and it's not her

522
00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:21,719
family owns a construction company, like one of the biggest

523
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,199
construction companies in Georgia.

524
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, she recently she recently had kind of a heel

525
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:32,559
turn about uh, wanting to loosen up on the deportations

526
00:35:32,599 --> 00:35:34,480
for the purposes of cheap labor.

527
00:35:34,559 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I heard that, Yeah, something like that. Yeah,

528
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,480
I mean, I don't know, I haven't looked I haven't

529
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,800
looked into it. I heard that that was being said,

530
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:49,559
but yeah, I've been I'm in paying a lot of

531
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:52,199
attention to current events. So I need to go down

532
00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:54,400
a rabbit hole and see exactly what she was saying

533
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:55,679
and how it's being construed.

534
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

535
00:35:57,199 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: So but yeah, and this is she had released screenshots

536
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,920
of Charlie saying you should speak at Amfest. Would you

537
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,679
want to also do a debate about Apak, et cetera.

538
00:36:09,079 --> 00:36:11,840
Not with me, no pressure, will do whatever you want. So,

539
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,559
I mean, if Charlie's tweeting at her saying you can

540
00:36:16,599 --> 00:36:19,400
do a debate about how you think you know, I

541
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,920
mean what he's saying is and I'll he how you

542
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,480
don't think a PAK is good for America. I'm fine

543
00:36:25,519 --> 00:36:30,079
with it. Yeah, because that's what she says. That's what

544
00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:30,840
she tells Tucker.

545
00:36:31,559 --> 00:36:33,599
Speaker 4: Yep, just opening up the question again.

546
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:40,639
Speaker 1: So two days before he shot, Kirk interviews Ben Shapiro,

547
00:36:42,039 --> 00:36:48,519
who I mean we Yeah. He discussed Israel's bombing of Katar,

548
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,559
quoted approvingly the distrust by some of his friends, possibly

549
00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:57,159
Tucker Carlson in the mainstream narrative on Israel, and stated

550
00:36:57,159 --> 00:37:00,159
that he doesn't like bbnet Yawho's statement, you can't be

551
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:05,000
maga if your anti Israel. Just think about the absurdity

552
00:37:05,199 --> 00:37:07,400
of that narrative.

553
00:37:10,039 --> 00:37:12,519
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a very convenient narrative and there's a

554
00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:15,360
lot of armies that will run with that.

555
00:37:16,519 --> 00:37:17,519
Speaker 2: Do you think there it is?

556
00:37:19,039 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: Stormy has been making this point, and Astral has been

557
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:26,239
making this point recently. That is the support for Israel

558
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:32,360
that we hear about from, you know, like evangelicals.

559
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 4: Is it overstated? Because I mean, in my experience talking

560
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:48,239
with people older than me, they have this mental block

561
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,599
where they will agree with you, you know, the the you

562
00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:56,679
know Trump voters, they will agree with you about everything

563
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:03,199
to do with foreign policy, with soft even with religion,

564
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:08,119
like fellow Catholics. But they have this mental block with

565
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,239
Israel where and I think it stems from just the.

566
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:14,559
Speaker 3: Global war on terror.

567
00:38:15,679 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 4: They're you know, giving an inch to Islam or Muslims

568
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,960
is a non starter. And for some reason they think

569
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:30,239
that Israel is helping us to I guess fight them

570
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:37,199
over there. They still have that it's so ingrained that propaganda.

571
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,079
If we don't fight them here, we have to fight

572
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:41,639
them over there. And they view Israel as like our

573
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:49,320
protector that absorbs all the Islamic terror. And I don't know,

574
00:38:50,559 --> 00:38:52,480
no matter how much I press them on it, and

575
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,920
I don't press them that much because they're my friends

576
00:38:54,920 --> 00:39:00,760
and co workers, but they can't get over that disconnect.

577
00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:06,280
And that's just my experience. The fifty fifty something sixty

578
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,840
something Trump voters.

579
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 2: You know, even like Little.

580
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,519
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm in I'm in the middle of the

581
00:39:12,519 --> 00:39:16,000
Bible Belt and you're used on about towns that have

582
00:39:16,039 --> 00:39:19,280
two thousand people in it and you have fifteen Baptist churches.

583
00:39:21,199 --> 00:39:24,079
I mean, I'm the tiniest Baptist church I've been to

584
00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:29,360
around here. They don't talk about Israel. Yeah, it's just

585
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,480
there is no support for it, you know. And you

586
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,440
would think that this would be the place, You're thinking,

587
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,159
this would be the place would be the most anti

588
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,960
Muslim and you know, and maybe I have him as

589
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,400
every church maybe there are, but you know, even pretty much, Yeah,

590
00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:46,280
we're going to one. There's one Baptist church here that

591
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,280
we went to for a while and like the pastor

592
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,920
was woke on all this, was woke on Israel. And

593
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,719
how you know he was he pretty much understood the JQ. Yeah,

594
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,880
I mean, and he's in the and he's in rural

595
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:03,559
Alabama pastoring a church. So I don't know.

596
00:40:04,119 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 4: I wonder if there's a divide between the mega churches

597
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,800
and the smaller parishes.

598
00:40:11,079 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it's the megachurches, man, I really do.

599
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,760
I think it's a church as like Adam Curry goes to.

600
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,000
So he has to get on his show and you

601
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,119
do everything he can to run interference, and you know,

602
00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:24,599
it's it's the British.

603
00:40:25,039 --> 00:40:26,119
Speaker 2: It's the British.

604
00:40:26,599 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 3: No, it's Katar.

605
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

606
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: So hours after the exchange between Shapiro and Kirk Shapiro

607
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,039
went on the Mark Levin Show Mark Levin, it turns

608
00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:41,840
out is probably he's probably one of the most vile

609
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:42,880
people on the planet.

610
00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:45,039
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, he's been.

611
00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:48,119
Speaker 4: He's been showing his cards for a little while now,

612
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,400
and I'm honestly surprised he still has a show.

613
00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:58,679
Speaker 1: Like like the shit that he says, if you were

614
00:40:58,679 --> 00:41:03,000
to say the same tone in the same language, you know,

615
00:41:03,079 --> 00:41:04,840
and I know this is oh imagine if the roles

616
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,360
were reversed, but like about it, if you were to

617
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:12,119
talk about Israel and and you know, Jews the way

618
00:41:12,159 --> 00:41:15,159
he talks about Muslims and people who don't support Jews,

619
00:41:16,119 --> 00:41:18,480
you literally get arrested.

620
00:41:18,159 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 2: In this country. Yeah, I think at least lose you're banking.

621
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 4: He was one of the people that you know, talking

622
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:31,239
talking about rhetorical innovation. He's the one that pushed the

623
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:32,559
whole Katar money thing.

624
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, he was big on he was calling

625
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,920
uh Tucker and Tucker Qatar alson. I mean like literally

626
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,039
we know that that Qatar is just basically like the

627
00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:47,079
Switzerland to the Middle East, but.

628
00:41:47,199 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 4: Then you need some That's one of the things that

629
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,679
these people bring up is like, well, what about Qatar.

630
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:58,559
Guitar donates more money into lobbying like American lobbyists than

631
00:41:58,599 --> 00:41:59,519
any other country.

632
00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: But they don't.

633
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 4: Oh no they you know what a they don't and

634
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,239
be they're registered, they're registered under Pharah and you know

635
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:06,719
who's not.

636
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:09,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, but.

637
00:42:11,199 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: Leather Apron Club did a really long video and I

638
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,599
clipped like fifteen minutes of it. All that money is

639
00:42:18,599 --> 00:42:23,159
not coming into the country. Basically, Qatar is building like

640
00:42:25,039 --> 00:42:29,079
foreign campuses for Texas A and M and and other

641
00:42:29,159 --> 00:42:34,119
American colleges in Katar. But the money has to come through,

642
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,840
like they have to register the money, it has to

643
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:42,920
like show up like on in American ledgers. The money

644
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,760
doesn't come here. They're basically using it to build like

645
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:51,039
a an American college system in Katar. So the money

646
00:42:51,079 --> 00:42:53,760
doesn't when they say, oh they look how much money

647
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,760
they give to American colleges, The money doesn't go to

648
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:57,679
American colleges.

649
00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,199
Speaker 3: It stays so long.

650
00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 4: They're involved in a lot of construction as well, like

651
00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:09,599
especially infrastructure construction. I think Houston all their new bridges

652
00:43:09,639 --> 00:43:15,840
and concrete work was all done by Katari Katari connected contractors.

653
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: But Qatar, the best that I can tell is that

654
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,920
if you want money, if you're a country like Israel

655
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,039
and you want money funneled to your enemies and you

656
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:31,119
don't want people to know, you send it to people

657
00:43:31,159 --> 00:43:35,159
in Qatar, and Qatar sends it to Hamas, just like

658
00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:40,800
Yahoo was doing by propping up Hamas. You know, so

659
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:46,079
all right, Shapiro tells Mark Levin. Shapiro speaking to Mark

660
00:43:46,159 --> 00:43:49,480
Levin right after he speaks to Charlie Kirk. You can't

661
00:43:49,519 --> 00:43:51,679
be a leader on the right if you think the

662
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,639
president is covering up a Masad rape ring or struck

663
00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:02,679
Iran for Israel. I mean, we read this, we read this,

664
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,800
and we think this is comical.

665
00:44:06,559 --> 00:44:09,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, good, good luck with that, but you know, and

666
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,280
then it and then it works on the gen xers

667
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,880
and boomers, yeah, and millennials, I got assume.

668
00:44:16,639 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right. September ninth, day before Kirk's assassination Martyrdom,

669
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,559
around three point thirty to four pm Eastern time, Charlie

670
00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:31,239
exchanged messages on a WhatsApp group chat with seven other people,

671
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:36,599
including Josh Hammer, pastor Rob McCoy, and probably Rabbi Wallicky.

672
00:44:38,039 --> 00:44:41,400
Kirk was obviously in a combative mood. Although punished for

673
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,559
having invited Carlson he was now thinking of inviting Candace.

674
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Speaker 2: Quote.

675
00:44:47,079 --> 00:44:49,519
Speaker 1: I cannot and will not be bullied like this, leaving

676
00:44:49,559 --> 00:44:52,480
me no choice but to leave the Pro Israel cause.

677
00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: End quote.

678
00:44:55,159 --> 00:44:58,639
Speaker 1: Candace revealed this exchange on October seventh and shamed McCoy

679
00:44:58,639 --> 00:45:02,280
and Hammer for having lied when denying its existence. She

680
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,320
is vindicated by Andrew Colvett, executive producer of TPUSA, since

681
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,400
Colvet reported this exchange to the FBI after Kirk's death,

682
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,079
he must have been part of the WhatsApp group and

683
00:45:14,119 --> 00:45:19,960
it is certainly him who communicated it to Candice. Charlie

684
00:45:20,039 --> 00:45:22,360
says here in one of these Jewish donors play into

685
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,599
all the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied

686
00:45:25,679 --> 00:45:28,239
like this, leaving me no choice but to leave the

687
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:33,880
Pro Israel cause. Same day day before he shot, two

688
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,199
hours after that exchange, from six to seven pm, Kirk

689
00:45:37,199 --> 00:45:40,480
had a one hour zoom meeting with Rabbi Willicky, Josh Hammer,

690
00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:43,880
Mickey McCoy, who's Kirk's chief of staff, and a few others.

691
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:49,840
In an interview he gave on September thirteenth. This is

692
00:45:50,199 --> 00:45:53,199
that's three days after Charlie's shot. To the New York Post,

693
00:45:53,199 --> 00:45:56,480
and in later video appearance dated October ninth, well Licky

694
00:45:56,519 --> 00:45:59,599
said he was concerned that many of Kirk's fans were

695
00:45:59,639 --> 00:46:03,960
turned on Israel and there were prominent people actively working

696
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,519
to get him to drop his support for Israel. Kirk was,

697
00:46:07,559 --> 00:46:10,239
according to Williky, in a combative mood and playing the

698
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,280
role of devil's advocate, which, in view of Kirk's messages

699
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,719
the day before, must be understood as Willicky's euphemistic presentation

700
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,880
of Kirk telling him and Hammer to go to hell.

701
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 4: It's amazing how having a disagreement with Jews is the

702
00:46:27,079 --> 00:46:30,840
exact same thing as actively working to erode support for Israel.

703
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:39,199
Speaker 1: No, dude, it's another holocaust. It's literally another holocaust. September ninth,

704
00:46:39,519 --> 00:46:42,840
at nine oh five pm, two hours after his Zoom

705
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,119
meeting with Kirk, Josh Hammer retweeted approvingly a twelve year

706
00:46:46,119 --> 00:46:49,800
old tweet by Trump saying should be public execution for

707
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,519
all to see. You will end this bullshit fast. Since

708
00:46:53,559 --> 00:46:56,719
the context of Trump's original tweet is irrelevant, and since

709
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,960
Hammer was a key participant in all the communication with

710
00:46:59,079 --> 00:47:01,800
Kirk that day, the SAP chat in the Zoom meeting

711
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,960
this week can reasonably be interpreted to as referring to

712
00:47:06,039 --> 00:47:09,840
Kirk's public execution the next day, and thereby indicative of

713
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:14,320
Hammer's fore knowledge. I won't go to I won't say

714
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,800
all that, but man, it's really fucking weird.

715
00:47:17,639 --> 00:47:18,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep.

716
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 1: It's September tenth. Kirkushot dead on the campus of Utah

717
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:29,559
Valley University in Oorum, Utah at twelve twenty three, hours

718
00:47:29,599 --> 00:47:34,840
after Kirk's death, Hammer again cryptically tweeted public execution, echoing

719
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,960
his tweet of the day before, suggesting that he was

720
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:41,360
cryptically taking a responsibility for Kirk's assassination once again. That

721
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:47,960
is Gigno. That is Ganno's understanding and how he sees

722
00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:54,760
the tweets. I'm not saying anything. Yeah, yeah, okay.

723
00:47:54,519 --> 00:47:57,119
Speaker 4: The lizard brain part of me is like, nah, that's

724
00:47:57,159 --> 00:47:58,239
that's going a little too far.

725
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 1: But hours after Kirk's death, net Yah, who eulogized Kirk

726
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,239
in an ex tweet and referred to his phone conversation

727
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:08,920
with Kirk.

728
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,079
Speaker 2: I spoke to him only two weeks ago and invited

729
00:48:12,119 --> 00:48:15,599
him to Israel. Sadly that visits will not take place.

730
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 4: The implication being that he was definitely wanting to.

731
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:27,599
Speaker 1: Go September twelfth, two days after the assassination, a mid

732
00:48:27,639 --> 00:48:31,679
mounting rumors that Israel was behind Kirk's assassination Netanyah, who

733
00:48:31,679 --> 00:48:36,840
booked himself on Newsmax to declare those rumors insane.

734
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,519
Speaker 4: What an odd thing to say.

735
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:47,159
Speaker 2: It's what why would you do that?

736
00:48:48,599 --> 00:48:50,119
Speaker 1: It was something we were talking about this on the

737
00:48:50,119 --> 00:48:53,920
Inquisition the other day. It's like, if you get accused

738
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:59,920
of something, the best thing to do is shut up. Yes,

739
00:49:00,599 --> 00:49:05,480
is don't address it, and they can't. He can't do that,

740
00:49:05,559 --> 00:49:07,440
and yeah, who can't do that? And I don't think

741
00:49:08,679 --> 00:49:11,159
I think since October seventh, I don't think Jews in

742
00:49:11,199 --> 00:49:14,000
general can do it. I think October seventh was some

743
00:49:14,119 --> 00:49:18,960
kind of activation, was some kind of We've seen it

744
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,119
before in history. If you study history.

745
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,199
Speaker 4: Hacking their neuroticism, well.

746
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: This happens where it's just there's it's almost like the

747
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:37,000
spirit of the age changes. I have been saying since

748
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:41,440
September seventh that that was or was it October seventh?

749
00:49:41,519 --> 00:49:44,079
October seventh, I've been saying since October seventh that it's

750
00:49:44,199 --> 00:49:44,800
just a change.

751
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 2: We changed the spirit of the age.

752
00:49:46,519 --> 00:49:49,559
Speaker 1: We're in a new age now, and you know, nothing's

753
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:51,840
ever going to be I said, this is going to

754
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,800
be the conversation going forth. And I don't like to

755
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,800
make predictions because I think people who make predictions just

756
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:03,159
want who there. I think they're trying to build themselves

757
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:04,920
up to something they're not, and then when the prediction

758
00:50:05,039 --> 00:50:07,559
doesn't come true, they have to go into rationalization mode.

759
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:12,000
But I mean, I'm on, you can listen to podcasts

760
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,159
from back then. I'm saying this changes everything, and this

761
00:50:14,199 --> 00:50:16,239
will be a conversation going forward.

762
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,559
Speaker 4: We can observe its rhetorical use in the last couple

763
00:50:19,599 --> 00:50:22,639
of years that it's it's trying to take the place

764
00:50:22,679 --> 00:50:28,239
of the Holocaust narrative for the new generations. That's all

765
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,639
this is. That's all it is. I think you want

766
00:50:30,639 --> 00:50:32,920
to know something funny. Guess what my anniversary is?

767
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:35,039
Speaker 2: What is it?

768
00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 4: October seventh, twenty twenty three, baby, best day of my life.

769
00:50:40,119 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 2: You got married on that day, didn't you?

770
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:43,599
Speaker 3: I did? Yeah, yep.

771
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 4: And then we went took our honeymoon in Greece while

772
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,280
there were missiles flying around.

773
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:51,119
Speaker 2: You know what? You know?

774
00:50:51,199 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: My anniversary is what one ten?

775
00:50:56,639 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 3: Oh?

776
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:04,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just leave that out there. My wife said,

777
00:51:04,039 --> 00:51:06,239
I wanted to be something that you can remember. I'm like,

778
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:14,920
I'll remember one sent yeah. So yeah, and so basically

779
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,239
this is when it comes to if you if you

780
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:25,719
want to if you want to decide, I guess then

781
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,760
you have to take into consideration. Okay, you know who

782
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,159
is Tyler Robinson and what did he do that day?

783
00:51:32,519 --> 00:51:35,000
And what did he why did he do this? What

784
00:51:35,159 --> 00:51:38,599
is he saying? Is is he saying anything?

785
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 3: Is?

786
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,199
Speaker 2: What is going on here?

787
00:51:41,679 --> 00:51:44,199
Speaker 4: Are you talking about the text thread? Because that was

788
00:51:44,519 --> 00:51:49,719
the text thread that Cash Patel released or they had

789
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,000
like a conference on it where they read through it.

790
00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:57,280
And that was the first thing that got my wheel spinning.

791
00:51:58,199 --> 00:52:03,199
Just how disingenuous and robotic. It sounded like, we know

792
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,760
the types of people that that are, like Tyler Robinson

793
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:11,960
just terminally online furry freaks and you know, in a

794
00:52:12,039 --> 00:52:16,280
hermetically sealed positive feedback loop known as a group chat

795
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:17,440
that we can all relate to.

796
00:52:18,039 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 3: But you know, just.

797
00:52:21,079 --> 00:52:25,519
Speaker 4: In the direction of complete evil nihilism, and uh, that

798
00:52:25,599 --> 00:52:28,559
didn't sound like those types of people talking with one another.

799
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 1: It was very It was very theater kid. Yeah, you

800
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,000
know my love saying stuff like my love and everything

801
00:52:40,119 --> 00:52:41,960
like that. I mean, yeah, I know, that. You know,

802
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,320
people say, oh, you know a lot of kids are

803
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:48,800
just basically theater kids now, But yeah, that just doesn't. Okay,

804
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:54,239
I just killed a high profile you know, figure on

805
00:52:54,679 --> 00:52:58,280
the right and American politics, and I'm as calm as

806
00:52:58,280 --> 00:52:58,559
can be.

807
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 2: And you know, I.

808
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 4: Even like the grammar and the syntax like, yeah, the

809
00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:11,800
inconsistent use of like contractions like I have just killed somebody,

810
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:17,760
and like the complete the inconsistent use of like abbreviations

811
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:22,159
that we all use in regular texts and group chats,

812
00:53:22,559 --> 00:53:25,519
like I don't know, it seemed like AI generated, but

813
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,440
I don't know. That's just that's the first thing that

814
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:29,559
got my wheel spinning.

815
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 1: It was very wooden. The thing that really started to

816
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,880
the thing that I questioned the most. I'm not saying

817
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:46,880
I know what happened, but here's what the first thing

818
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,960
I thought was, Okay, it's a two hundred yard shot.

819
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,599
It wasn't a two hundred yard shot. It was one

820
00:53:50,639 --> 00:53:54,079
hundred and forty yard shot. And I'm thinking to myself, well,

821
00:53:55,039 --> 00:53:59,960
you has this person ever looked down a scope before

822
00:54:00,119 --> 00:54:05,480
or and like you know, trained it on someone another

823
00:54:05,559 --> 00:54:10,280
human being? You know, how how calm would he be?

824
00:54:10,559 --> 00:54:14,599
What is he giving a second thought. How how proficient

825
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:18,760
is he with this weapon? Okay, had I don't even

826
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,360
care about that anymore, and I haven't. I haven't cared

827
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,719
about that in a while, because I found out through

828
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,480
just I look this up all the time to see

829
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:34,639
if it's changed. Tyler Robinson walks through the door onto

830
00:54:34,639 --> 00:54:39,880
that roof, and sixty seconds later he's climbing down off

831
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:40,480
of that roof.

832
00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you see it? Do you see a problem

833
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:44,519
with that?

834
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 3: Yeah?

835
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: As somebody who is as somebody who's shot. I'm sure

836
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,480
you've shot a rifle. I'm sure you've shot a scope rifle.

837
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,159
I'm sure you've probably shot one off a tripod. Do

838
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,559
you see any now, I'm sure you well, I don't.

839
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,119
Speaker 4: Know that that's some next level breathing control.

840
00:55:03,679 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you're sort of a crazy guy. I don't

841
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,199
know if you've ever shot somebody. You know it assassinated

842
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,119
somebody from hundred and forty yards in a public place,

843
00:55:13,159 --> 00:55:16,519
you know, at an at an angle, at a downward angle.

844
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:21,440
But sixty seconds you climb up on the roof, You

845
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,679
get there, you get in position, you get your rifle ready,

846
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,599
you train, you shoot him in the neck, kill shot

847
00:55:28,519 --> 00:55:32,119
and then all within sixty seconds, you're climbing back down

848
00:55:32,159 --> 00:55:32,760
off the roof.

849
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 3: You get disassembled, rifle ready right.

850
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 1: Well, now they're saying, well, whenever I've said that before,

851
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,880
and people are well, you know, no, no, he had

852
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:43,920
he had it in his pants, or he had it

853
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,960
covered or something. Okay, fine, I'm perfectly fine with that.

854
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:51,760
He didn't disassemble. Okay, Still sixty seconds up on that roof.

855
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,519
Is this guy a fucking pro? I mean, would tell me,

856
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,960
maybe someone can tell me who is a pro who's

857
00:55:59,079 --> 00:56:02,360
assassinated people at distance in the middle of the day

858
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:07,000
from a roof in public. If you had sixty seconds

859
00:56:07,039 --> 00:56:11,960
to set up, and if you had sixty seconds to

860
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,800
go through a door, go across a roof, the full length,

861
00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:19,159
the full length across a roof, get in position, shoot

862
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,199
kill shot, and then you're climbing down off.

863
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:22,639
Speaker 2: Of the building.

864
00:56:23,079 --> 00:56:27,559
Speaker 1: Is sixty to sixty seconds sound plausible? It just doesn't

865
00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:31,480
sound plausible to me that that's the part of the

866
00:56:31,519 --> 00:56:35,679
story of his story the note, yeah, of course. But

867
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,079
the part of the story that gets me is that

868
00:56:38,119 --> 00:56:40,599
he could do that all in sixty seconds if he

869
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,760
wasn't some kind of insanely trained pro which he wasn't.

870
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:53,880
So my question is how there's every time something like

871
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:58,599
this happens, I'm being asked and things come to light

872
00:56:59,039 --> 00:57:04,199
that just seem to be impossible, you know, you know,

873
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,199
like you know that three planes could fly into the

874
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:13,920
friggin the two planes could fly into the most protected airspace,

875
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,400
and another plane could fly into even more protected airspace

876
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:22,079
and no one shoots it down and they're just allowed

877
00:57:22,119 --> 00:57:26,519
to fly. I'm being asked to trust, to trust too

878
00:57:26,679 --> 00:57:30,559
much in Oh, this was an anomaly. This, It's always

879
00:57:30,599 --> 00:57:31,599
a fucking anomaly.

880
00:57:32,679 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 3: Yep.

881
00:57:33,159 --> 00:57:35,119
Speaker 4: And then when you point that out, you're being asked

882
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:37,320
to suspend your disbelief or else.

883
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, or else you're crazy. And it's like, look, I'm

884
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,960
not even saying. I'm not here saying that Israel killed

885
00:57:44,039 --> 00:57:46,760
Charlie Kirk. I'm saying that dude was up on a

886
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,519
fucking roof for sixty total seconds. And if you watch

887
00:57:50,599 --> 00:57:53,239
the video of him getting up on the roof, the

888
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,440
door he goes through is all the way on the

889
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,400
other side of the roof where he fired the shot from.

890
00:57:57,599 --> 00:57:59,199
So then he has to walk all the way across

891
00:57:59,239 --> 00:58:04,440
the roof, gets set up train, you know, train a

892
00:58:04,559 --> 00:58:08,440
scope take the shot and then start climbing down. I'm

893
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:12,239
just saying, I'm sorry, I'm saying that either that's a

894
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:16,440
bullshit story or he was up there for longer, but

895
00:58:17,079 --> 00:58:22,239
I'm being told, no, it's definitely sixty seconds. So you know,

896
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,000
I'm being told, and I'm being told he was definitely

897
00:58:25,079 --> 00:58:26,320
up there for sixty seconds.

898
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 2: And you better believe that he.

899
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: Was able to do all of this, and do all

900
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,159
of this on his own with no help from anyone

901
00:58:38,159 --> 00:58:41,320
else that we're being told of. And if I don't

902
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:42,320
believe that, I'm a kook.

903
00:58:43,079 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep.

904
00:58:45,039 --> 00:58:49,679
Speaker 4: And no matter how big the mountain gets of circumstantial evidence,

905
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,719
it's still just a little bit beyond the pale for

906
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:59,239
the average person to even consider the questioning the official story.

907
00:59:00,679 --> 00:59:07,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, and here's the thing, Okay, so let's play. Let's

908
00:59:07,639 --> 00:59:11,239
play into the into what people are saying, and I

909
00:59:11,239 --> 00:59:14,679
mean what normies are saying. They're literally I mean, I'm

910
00:59:14,679 --> 00:59:18,599
hearing stories from people who are like, yeah, nomy normies,

911
00:59:18,639 --> 00:59:22,559
I know, not even NORMI Khans like normies, or like,

912
00:59:22,599 --> 00:59:24,719
oh yeah, Israel did this, This was Israel.

913
00:59:28,039 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 4: See the normies I talked to say he was a Democrat,

914
00:59:31,079 --> 00:59:38,079
which is just infuriating. It is absolutely infuriating, like that

915
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:42,960
he was a Democrat narrative stuck with so many people

916
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,199
that I know, and I I just it's all I

917
00:59:46,239 --> 00:59:49,599
can do not to launch into a tirade to scare

918
00:59:49,639 --> 00:59:51,559
the shit out of them and say, do you know

919
00:59:52,079 --> 00:59:56,119
how many group chats with kids just like him exist

920
00:59:56,159 --> 00:59:59,400
in the world and have existed since the internet was a.

921
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:05,039
Speaker 1: Thing you're talking about, Tyler Robinson, Yeah, yep, I mean

922
01:00:05,199 --> 01:00:06,119
I think Charlie was.

923
01:00:06,119 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 2: A Democrat, but.

924
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:12,719
Speaker 3: Oh he was a lib.

925
01:00:13,719 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: I mean he was definitely a I mean, he was

926
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,559
a liberal. He thought that he could talk to people.

927
01:00:17,599 --> 01:00:21,199
He thought that, oh, you know, the Enlightenment and you know.

928
01:00:22,079 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, I'm saying Tyler Robinson.

929
01:00:25,559 --> 01:00:29,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was a lib. Yeah.

930
01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: I like the the one device that I like that

931
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,199
my friend carl Doll does. He's a he's my guy

932
01:00:37,239 --> 01:00:40,719
to go to on the Spanish Civil War. He he

933
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:44,000
doesn't care if it's an anarchist or a communist or

934
01:00:44,039 --> 01:00:46,480
a Republican in the Spanish Civil War. He calls him

935
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:50,639
all lib tuards because then he goes to explain how

936
01:00:51,079 --> 01:00:55,440
they wanted to basically kill half of the Catholics in Spain.

937
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,440
And what he's doing by that is he's basically saying, look,

938
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:03,239
I don't care what what flavor of a liberal, you're

939
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,320
what libtard you're talking about? They all want to kill you.

940
01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:11,400
Yeah yeah, I mean, and I mean, can it be

941
01:01:11,559 --> 01:01:14,599
argued now they I mean, look at the way they

942
01:01:14,679 --> 01:01:18,559
celebrated this, I mean openly people were people were fucking

943
01:01:18,679 --> 01:01:20,599
celebrating this on their LinkedIn pages.

944
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well who owns LinkedIn?

945
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: Reid Hoffmann? Yeah yeah, yeah, well I mean it does

946
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:31,559
he still I don't know, but.

947
01:01:33,199 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 2: It's you.

948
01:01:37,679 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 3: You.

949
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:44,519
Speaker 1: These are hard things to have a conversation about anymore, because, well,

950
01:01:44,559 --> 01:01:47,000
here's a good thing. Okay, so here, let me take

951
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:51,920
this in an opposite direction. Here's a good thing. People

952
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,800
just don't believe this shit anymore. Man, They don't believe

953
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:59,880
the official narrative. Like there are a lot of like, yeah,

954
01:02:01,679 --> 01:02:05,360
what I thought to myself before like October seventh and before,

955
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,960
but really after October seventh, after I watched all of

956
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,639
this unfold, the way they're playing this, I thought, Man,

957
01:02:12,679 --> 01:02:14,960
the way they can really get Israel back on their

958
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,119
side is they're going to have to pull off another

959
01:02:17,159 --> 01:02:17,760
false flock.

960
01:02:19,519 --> 01:02:25,079
Speaker 2: But the thing is who's going to believe it. Nobody believes.

961
01:02:25,159 --> 01:02:27,639
Speaker 1: I mean, people don't believe anything anymore. They don't believe

962
01:02:27,639 --> 01:02:28,559
the official story.

963
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:34,159
Speaker 4: No no, that died with COVID. Yeah, I think COVID

964
01:02:34,239 --> 01:02:37,039
was the nail in the coffin for some type of

965
01:02:37,079 --> 01:02:41,800
mass casualty event to be attributed to, you know, bad actors,

966
01:02:42,039 --> 01:02:45,800
and then everybody can unite against those bad actors. That

967
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,960
nobody's uniting about anything anymore. You either have you either

968
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,079
have potential to recognize what the problem is or you don't.

969
01:02:53,559 --> 01:02:58,039
And then when you become politically aware, you are sifted

970
01:02:58,079 --> 01:03:02,000
from from one side or an other, and those sides

971
01:03:02,039 --> 01:03:03,840
are completely adversarial now.

972
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:10,079
Speaker 1: So I guess the biggest thing that stands in the

973
01:03:10,119 --> 01:03:16,000
way of the Israel killed Charlie Kirk thing is Tyler Robinson.

974
01:03:18,159 --> 01:03:23,360
That he exists and that he's in jail. What happens

975
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:27,679
to the I mean, I keep thinking every day that

976
01:03:27,679 --> 01:03:29,719
I'm going to wake up and I'm going to read

977
01:03:29,719 --> 01:03:35,559
that Tyler Robinson killed himself in jail. And if that happens,

978
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:43,000
it's almost like they're in a rock. If if the narrative,

979
01:03:43,039 --> 01:03:48,480
the people who write the narratives are honest, with themselves

980
01:03:48,639 --> 01:03:51,920
and just aren't way out over their skis just throwing

981
01:03:52,119 --> 01:03:55,079
shit against the wall sea and what sticks. They have

982
01:03:55,159 --> 01:03:59,360
to realize that if they kill that kid, Nope, that

983
01:03:59,719 --> 01:04:03,280
media everybody's going to run into that Israel killed Charlie Kirk.

984
01:04:04,519 --> 01:04:07,920
But I mean do they even care anymore? Do they

985
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,159
think that they could get away with it somehow, that

986
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,880
like they could kill the kid and people would still

987
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,559
be on their side and and believe, Oh, well, you know,

988
01:04:15,639 --> 01:04:18,360
he was just you know, he was a tortured boy

989
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,599
and everything, and you know he realized he killed somebody,

990
01:04:21,639 --> 01:04:23,920
and you know, obviously, you know he he was into

991
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,920
he was into truon, so you know, he's probably he's

992
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:32,079
mentally ill. But I mean, I just don't see. This

993
01:04:32,199 --> 01:04:37,320
is what I've seen since October. The Charlie Kirk assassination

994
01:04:37,679 --> 01:04:40,559
is just a continuation of what I've seen since October seventh.

995
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:45,800
They've completely lost the narrative, Like it doesn't matter, it

996
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:49,639
doesn't matter that the people that you talk to support Israel.

997
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,519
What's really what's more important is is that people with

998
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:59,280
huge amounts of money and platform support Israel. Oh yeah,

999
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:03,480
that Tucker Carlson, that Tucker Carlson supports Israel, that Marjorie

1000
01:05:03,519 --> 01:05:07,000
Taylor Green supports Israel, that Thomas Massey supports Israel, that

1001
01:05:07,159 --> 01:05:09,840
Candas Owen supports Israel. And people couldn't say all they

1002
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,079
want about how Candas owns is a clown. She's you know,

1003
01:05:13,119 --> 01:05:18,280
she's insane, dude. She is out there frigging j pilling

1004
01:05:18,679 --> 01:05:22,840
like middle class women on a daily basis. Middle class

1005
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,840
women are talking about how they Yeah, I'm hearing people saying, yeah,

1006
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,480
my mom listens, my mom watches canvas every day. Now,

1007
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:35,239
It's like, I mean, look, I don't care how they

1008
01:05:35,239 --> 01:05:37,440
get how people get get j pilled.

1009
01:05:38,639 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 4: I think I think that might be a function of

1010
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:45,880
just wives and girlfriends inevitably assume the political identity of

1011
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,639
their their their husbands or boyfriends.

1012
01:05:50,159 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 2: Oh.

1013
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:55,119
Speaker 1: I've another thing that I've taken as saying that has

1014
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,599
made some people crazy when I say it is the

1015
01:05:58,719 --> 01:06:03,480
dating period is only to find out if you're if

1016
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:09,039
your potential wife is going to adopt your politics, because

1017
01:06:09,079 --> 01:06:11,400
if she doesn't adopt your politics, you're getting divorced.

1018
01:06:12,239 --> 01:06:16,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that was definitely a factor in

1019
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:22,480
the dating game. In twenty nineteen, when I was still

1020
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,800
in the dating game. That was definitely a factor.

1021
01:06:28,199 --> 01:06:29,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't.

1022
01:06:30,079 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 1: I don't see how you can survive in house sharing

1023
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:38,559
a bed with somebody who is like, you know, if

1024
01:06:38,599 --> 01:06:42,239
you're fantastasized. Yeah, if you're all the way over where

1025
01:06:42,239 --> 01:06:46,360
we are and they're all the way they're like secretly celebrating,

1026
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:47,679
you know, Charlie Kirk's death.

1027
01:06:48,679 --> 01:06:50,679
Speaker 2: Well you know you shouldn't. Yeah, I mean, what do

1028
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:51,280
you do.

1029
01:06:52,039 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 4: Now there's a fundamental mismatch in your foundational morality, and

1030
01:06:59,039 --> 01:07:04,199
marriages don't survive that, or relationships don't. Any relationship doesn't

1031
01:07:04,199 --> 01:07:04,960
really survive that.

1032
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.

1033
01:07:10,599 --> 01:07:15,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that that's really really important. I mean, yeah,

1034
01:07:15,559 --> 01:07:17,159
this pisses a lot of people off, but I mean,

1035
01:07:17,159 --> 01:07:20,039
women just don't have political agency. One of the reasons

1036
01:07:20,039 --> 01:07:22,679
why we're in the we're in the situation we're in

1037
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:27,039
is because women are in politics. There are female politicians,

1038
01:07:28,519 --> 01:07:28,880
I mean.

1039
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 4: Their own devices. They gravitate towards power, and that power

1040
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,119
and not to sound like a Lulbert, but that power

1041
01:07:38,159 --> 01:07:38,719
is the state.

1042
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:44,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and you you throw a woman into

1043
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:50,039
college and you know, at best, they don't come out

1044
01:07:50,079 --> 01:07:55,000
of flaming, purple haired, insane person they come out.

1045
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 2: A girl boss. Yeah, and a girl.

1046
01:07:58,119 --> 01:08:01,559
Speaker 1: Boss is fucking it is the kind of Oh, I

1047
01:08:01,599 --> 01:08:03,760
need to become a politician and I need to change things.

1048
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:07,280
It's like, well, show me a show me a hardcore

1049
01:08:08,079 --> 01:08:14,519
right wing you know, female politician Marjorie that's not Marjorie

1050
01:08:14,519 --> 01:08:19,760
Taylor Green. No hardcore hardcore right winger.

1051
01:08:22,199 --> 01:08:22,359
Speaker 3: You know.

1052
01:08:22,399 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: I remember telling people like this conversation with this, and

1053
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:35,239
it just really goes to show how conservatives how Trump.

1054
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:39,119
Like when Trump ran, he a bunch of people who

1055
01:08:39,119 --> 01:08:42,840
had never like paid attention to politics other than like

1056
01:08:43,239 --> 01:08:50,119
on a very superficial level, became political. But like the

1057
01:08:50,159 --> 01:08:54,039
only they didn't start reading books. They didn't like pick

1058
01:08:54,119 --> 01:08:57,600
up Eric Voglin or you know, like James Burnham or

1059
01:08:58,199 --> 01:09:01,640
you know, even like you know, read the federalist papers.

1060
01:09:02,079 --> 01:09:07,279
They started watching the news. And I remember talking to

1061
01:09:07,319 --> 01:09:11,399
someone in like twenty twenty and we're talking about Biden,

1062
01:09:12,079 --> 01:09:15,039
you know, writing for election, and I'm like, and yeah,

1063
01:09:15,039 --> 01:09:19,760
he called Biden a communist. And I'm like, Biden's like

1064
01:09:20,039 --> 01:09:24,600
a center like center left, and on many days he's

1065
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:30,520
center right. What are you what are you talking about?

1066
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:36,079
What's a communist? And like he's like you can't say

1067
01:09:36,119 --> 01:09:38,479
that Biden is like a centrist everything.

1068
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:43,319
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, what about the what is what is

1069
01:09:43,319 --> 01:09:44,000
the centrist?

1070
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like like what was the crime bill? And

1071
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:52,439
these are people who don't even know that, like he

1072
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:54,960
penned the crime bill in the nineties and stuff like that.

1073
01:09:55,039 --> 01:09:55,560
Speaker 2: So it's like.

1074
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 1: To go back to this whole you know, this article

1075
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:06,880
and everything. Of course, a bunch of people are going

1076
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:13,239
to when the whole spirit of politics at this time

1077
01:10:14,039 --> 01:10:19,520
is I mean a serious friend enemy distinction, existential.

1078
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:25,279
Speaker 4: It's it's existential now. And that that's why I'm so

1079
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:29,159
happy to see so many young people posting things like

1080
01:10:29,399 --> 01:10:31,680
I don't care about the group chat and a picture

1081
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:41,520
of Charlie Kirk or a picture of what's her name, Eranah. Yeah,

1082
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:46,920
and this this whole attitude shift towards the debates over

1083
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:51,159
we owe you nothing and now it's an existential conflict.

1084
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:58,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, and these people don't and the left doesn't quote

1085
01:10:58,079 --> 01:11:02,319
unquote left doesn't to deal with it. The enemy just

1086
01:11:02,359 --> 01:11:03,960
doesn't know how to deal with the fact that.

1087
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:11,399
Speaker 3: I said to tell the racist I know, and they

1088
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:14,079
don't know how to deal with it. They don't know

1089
01:11:14,119 --> 01:11:18,239
how to deal with the paradigm that they begged for.

1090
01:11:19,399 --> 01:11:21,720
They they never thought they would lose. It all goes

1091
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:26,640
back to that they never thought they would lose. And

1092
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:30,239
that's not to say that we've won, but we are winning.

1093
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:35,199
Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna have to win a lot harder because.

1094
01:11:37,239 --> 01:11:38,119
Speaker 3: Because if we don't.

1095
01:11:39,159 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, if I mean when the swing back. Yeah, it's

1096
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,600
like the lol cows who are like, you know, whenever

1097
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:50,239
you increase the size increase the power of government. The

1098
01:11:50,279 --> 01:11:53,000
next time when you're out of power, I'm like, well,

1099
01:11:53,039 --> 01:11:55,520
when the fuck do they not increase the size of

1100
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:56,920
government when they're in power?

1101
01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:58,319
Speaker 3: No, COVID.

1102
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,279
Speaker 4: If COVID didn't blow that apart, I don't know what

1103
01:12:01,359 --> 01:12:05,239
will then me. I assume those people are just arguing

1104
01:12:05,279 --> 01:12:07,920
in bad faith at that point.

1105
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 1: I mean, either they're arguing in bad faith or that

1106
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:15,720
like that kind of libertarian attitude has just become their

1107
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:20,399
identity and become their morality. Yeah, you know, so they

1108
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:26,159
can't they can't see past it where you know, it's like, okay, well,

1109
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:30,000
you know, I think Trump should become an article to

1110
01:12:30,239 --> 01:12:35,800
president and basically you know, start crushing the worst of

1111
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:36,439
the worst.

1112
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 4: Yes, because if he doesn't, then that Lawbard argument of well,

1113
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:45,479
what happens when they get elected again, that lawbird argument

1114
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:49,680
will come about, and that's the response to them is, gee,

1115
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:53,239
you better make sure we don't lose, So stop being

1116
01:12:53,279 --> 01:12:54,039
a fuck TRD.

1117
01:12:56,359 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 1: You know you just I know that we have people

1118
01:13:00,199 --> 01:13:03,880
inside the administration who know this. I know this for

1119
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:08,560
a fact because I know people inside the administration. But

1120
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:16,520
it's trying to get there's too much. People want this

1121
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,760
to be done overnight, and I honestly believe it could

1122
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,800
be done overnight. But you were gonna you're going to

1123
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,960
have to I mean, you're gonna have to cross the

1124
01:13:26,039 --> 01:13:28,960
rubicon and you know, not set up camp on the

1125
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:33,920
other side. You're just gonna have to keep going. But

1126
01:13:35,319 --> 01:13:39,560
it really proves that the last hundred years of building

1127
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:43,039
this managerial state, this administrative state, just how hard it

1128
01:13:43,079 --> 01:13:47,199
is to deal. I mean, yeah, yeah, I'm not going

1129
01:13:47,239 --> 01:13:49,920
to say Biden did this, because Biden didn't do anything

1130
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,720
except his pants for for the last three years he

1131
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:56,920
was president. But whoever he had around him, all they

1132
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,880
did was I mean, it was a concerted effort to

1133
01:14:00,039 --> 01:14:03,880
put judges, oh yeah, into I mean, did you see

1134
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:08,840
that did you see that number that forty between forty

1135
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:12,640
and sixty percent of the judges in Washington, DC, and

1136
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,000
like circuit courts weren't born in this country.

1137
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:20,159
Speaker 4: I didn't see that, but again, it's it's not surprising.

1138
01:14:21,239 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 2: I think think about that.

1139
01:14:23,039 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it is you're it's Bioleninism one hundred percent

1140
01:14:28,079 --> 01:14:30,920
right now. I mean, and that's basically where we're at is.

1141
01:14:31,119 --> 01:14:34,000
You know, the problem is is that when the left

1142
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:37,720
does Bioleninism, they put people in there who are just

1143
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:42,680
incompetent enough to like, really fuck shit up. But the

1144
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:46,159
right doesn't really use Bioleninism in the way the left

1145
01:14:46,319 --> 01:14:48,720
uses it. Like the left will also use it. And

1146
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:51,319
I'm using left and right just as an American thing.

1147
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 2: Shut up.

1148
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,039
Speaker 1: I know, I'm not in nineteenth century France. And people

1149
01:14:54,039 --> 01:14:56,279
who say you can't use left and right anymore, I

1150
01:14:56,279 --> 01:14:57,840
mean rarely see Canadian healthcare.

1151
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 2: But you're.

1152
01:15:05,039 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 1: You're putting What they're doing is they're putting the most

1153
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:14,000
radical people into positions, people who cannot be argued with,

1154
01:15:14,399 --> 01:15:17,039
people who you're not going to change their mind. You're

1155
01:15:17,279 --> 01:15:20,399
you're taking your most radical people and making them judges,

1156
01:15:21,239 --> 01:15:23,319
putting them in charge of ngngos, putting them I mean

1157
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,279
and what does the right do with their radical people,

1158
01:15:27,319 --> 01:15:32,640
the people who know exactly what time it is, and

1159
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:36,760
the people who are the ones who look to history

1160
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:38,920
and say, Okay, this is the way, this is the

1161
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:40,840
way we beat them before, this is how we're going

1162
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,279
to have to beat them now. They leaked their group

1163
01:15:43,359 --> 01:15:45,199
chat and get them fired.

1164
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 4: Yep, there is absolutely no friend enemy distinction in conservatism.

1165
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 3: I would like to.

1166
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:59,279
Speaker 4: Think that, you know, even though we are pretty decentralized,

1167
01:15:59,319 --> 01:16:02,800
even though we are kind of a uh, I guess

1168
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:08,920
you could describe it as a thousand competing vertically integrated cathedrals,

1169
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:14,239
and sometimes we get along and sometimes we fight. It's

1170
01:16:14,319 --> 01:16:16,720
just a function of I think it's just a function

1171
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:25,000
of you know, enjoying competition and enjoying hierarchy. But that's

1172
01:16:25,039 --> 01:16:27,520
that's one thing that we need to figure out badly.

1173
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:30,840
And I say we, but it's something that you need

1174
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:32,520
to figure out, Pete.

1175
01:16:35,359 --> 01:16:39,319
Speaker 1: Here's here's from my friends Stormy. I'll share this with you.

1176
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:44,479
The Reagan Caucus saying no, sorry, guys, enough with the excuse.

1177
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,439
Is using the FCC to go after your political opponents

1178
01:16:48,039 --> 01:16:51,319
is thug behavior. And the same Congress wouldn't put up

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with that and what a stormy say. The enemy of

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any revolutionary rightist movement is the conservative. The enemy of

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any revolutionary rights movement is the conservative. The enemy of

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any revolutionary rightist movement is the conservative.

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Speaker 4: That's almost a direct mirror of our State and Revolution reading.

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Speaker 1: Imagine that. That's why I released that every once in

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a while. Re release that every once in a while. And

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it's amazing that people, I assume there are people who

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are like, I'm not going to listen to that. I'm

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not going to listen.

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Speaker 4: To give your audience more credit than that.

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Speaker 1: I hope, So, man, I really do, because you.

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Speaker 3: Here's I don't give my audience credit, but your audience

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is a cut above.

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Speaker 1: You're openly hostile to your audience, which I am sometimes too.

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I've learned too much from you, but.

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Speaker 4: I'm so hostile. I just stop showing up.

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Speaker 1: People don't realize that if they like listen to our

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and I'm not saying you have to listen to it,

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you can read State and Revolution on your own. It's

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one hundred pages. You will know more about communism than

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people calling themselves communists.

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Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, that was my whole stick for a while.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like Tom, It's like Thomas says, he goes,

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they're running around calling like Mandami Mandamia communists and they're

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calling all these people communists. It's like a right, So

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where are their writings on dialectical materialism?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, like postcolonial theory is just liberalism now, it's

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not even I mean, orthodox Marxism is mostly dead. But

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I'm in a way, in a sick way, I kind

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of I kind of hope it starts resurging. You know,

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these No King's protests that are going on today. On

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their posters, they have a lot of mark like Marxist

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organizations that are going to be you know, helping out

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with organizing and like, I don't know, it'll be interesting.

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I don't support it obviously, but it'll be it'll be interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, And to bring it back you were

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talking about, you know how it's just basically democracy.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: That's why another book that I read on my podcast

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was A Demon and Democracy by Raizar Luguco, because he

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just proves in there he shows you know, what the

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Marxists were trying to do and what liberalism, what liberalism

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turns into. And you know it's like where I think

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you and I have said before that basically libertarianism, libertarians

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and Marxists have the same pretty much the same critiques

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and they and but the problem with that is they

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also have a tendency to view humans in the same

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dehumanizing way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yep, yeah means instead of ends. Yeah yeah, all right, Well,

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thank you for but they're free to go off into

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the marsh.

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Speaker 2: Just march.

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Speaker 1: March marches are your stuff. But anyway, are you are

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you ever going to go back on t L?

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Speaker 3: Eventually?

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Speaker 4: I will, Yeah, I think I think my contractual obligations

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are going to kick in, and I'm gonna get a

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call from h t l's in house legal counsel if

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I don't.

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Speaker 2: He's doing really doing that.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yep, yep.

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Speaker 4: He gives uh, he gives us a lot of good

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legal advice and sometimes we take it.

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Speaker 2: Most of the time.

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Speaker 3: Not or you're free not to.

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Speaker 2: All right, man, I appreciate you, thank you, thank you

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very much for having me on. Of course,