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Speaker 1: And we are back with another edition of the Federalist

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Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle's senior elections correspondent at The

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Our guest today is Republican National Committee Chairman Joe Gruders.

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What are the keys to victory for the Grand Old

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Party in twenty twenty six and what will the Democratic

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Party's hard turn left mean for electoral politics head We'll

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get into all of that coming up next on this

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edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. Joe, thank you so

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much for being here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, thanks Matt for having me on.

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Speaker 3: Really appreciate you taking interest in wanting to talk about

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the GOP. No.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's a big year coming up, obviously after a

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very big year in twenty twenty four. But let's start

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with you. You are fresh into this job pretty much in

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the last couple of months. How are things going so far?

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Speaker 3: Listen, things are great, Mike Wally, who is the chairman

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immediately prior to me, was in you know, set the

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very high bar. You know, he set the tone in

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the stage of the party after, you know, during the

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presidential election immediately after in terms of staffing up and

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making sure we have the right people in place. And

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you know, I'm just so incredibly grateful to be able

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to have this position, to be able to do this,

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and to be able to go to bat on behalf

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of President Trump and to lead our party as we

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head to these midterms because.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of stake.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania, I think,

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through the grace of God, I think President Trump was saved,

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and I think he was saved to save not only

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the country, but the world. And I think what we've

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seen over the first nine months of service, or you know,

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this first year has been nothing less than you know,

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remarkable because he's firing on all cylinders. He's fulfilling his

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campaign promises, and he's continuing to lead from the front

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and just doing an amazing job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it certainly has been an active first nine months.

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You have to say that there has been a lot

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going on. A number of accomplishments for this country. For really,

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a period right now where if we don't get this right,

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we're in peril of losing the republic that we have

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all known. As we near two hundred and fifty years.

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That must be a lot of pressure for someone running

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the RNC right now.

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Speaker 3: Well, listen, we take all of our signals and there's

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zero daylight between us and the President and.

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Speaker 2: The White House.

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Speaker 3: I was brought on because, you know, you know, just

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to give you my background, Matt, for your listeners. You know,

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I spent almost my entire adult life in the minor

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league of party politics. You know, people come and become

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chairmen from different backgrounds, but I'm truly a grassroots guy.

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Four years as a club chairman, fourteen as his accounting chairman,

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for as a Republican Party of Florida chairman. But really

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my claim to fame is the fact that I've, you know,

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was Trump's original chairman in twenty sixteen in Florida, and

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my co chairman was Susie Wiles, and I would chair

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this twenty twenty campaign. Is number one guy in twenty

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twenty four campaign and he obviously values loyalty. But listen,

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at the end of the day, everything is about winning,

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and we got to make sure we have everything in

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place for us to be successful in these midterms, and

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it means making sure we win the House. You know,

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just as a perspective, we're two and thirty nine in

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these off cycle elections, and so it's not you know,

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the trends are against us, histories against us.

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Speaker 2: We're going to have to overcome all these challenges.

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Speaker 3: But I'm, like I said before, I'm so grateful to

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have the position and to have the president and his

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leadership because he is.

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Speaker 2: The guiding light.

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Speaker 3: I think his policies will lead us to victory. And

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I think that candidates that embrace the president and follow

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his lead will have success at the ballot box next November.

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Speaker 1: And that is yet, isn't it. I mean, it is success.

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It is victory. That's what every thing is measured by.

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So how do you go about that? What are the

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keys to victory? Particularly how do you re engage the

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low propensity voters that the RNC and your partners did

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such a good job getting to the polls in a

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presidential election year, In a year that you say is

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very difficult to get people out in these midterms.

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Speaker 2: Well that you hit the nail on the head.

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Speaker 3: How do you get the voters who have shown up

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three times for the president to come out for these

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down ballot races.

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Speaker 2: And that's the challenge we face as a party.

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Speaker 3: And I think that the message and the communication that

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the party puts out there has to be the fact

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that what you saw during the shutdown those forty three

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days is exactly what you're going to see if the

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Democrats regain control of the House or the Senate.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a they're going to be obstructionists.

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Speaker 3: They're going to be and that there's going to be investigations,

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there's going to be impeachments, it's going to be NonStop,

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and the presidency is basically going to be over. They

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won't be able to continue to advance the president's agenda

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if they take over even one side of Congress. And

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so that's the message we have to deliver. I think

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the President is fully willing, and I you know my

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conversations with him and my discussions, he's all in for

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barnstorming the country and doing rallies and doing whatever we

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have to do to make sure we win.

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Speaker 2: And listen, you know, you look at the whole country.

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Speaker 3: Really there's you know, I call it the Trump thirteen

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thirteen seats that the president won where we have Democrat

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members of Congress, and there's three seats that Kamala Harris

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one where we have Republican members of Congress. So out

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of the four hundred and thirty five seats, you know,

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there's sixteen super competitive races and probably another ten to

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twelves that are right below that, and so those are

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the battlegrounds, you know, so all the resources are going

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to be spent, you know, in you know, twenty five

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different seats. And on the Senate side, we have you know,

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muss holds in Ohio, Maine, in North Carolina, and we

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got great pickup opportunities in Georgia and New Hampshire and Michigan.

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And so listen, we're out there. We're recruiting the right candidates.

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We're trying to make sure we find the right horse

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for the course. I always say, you can't have Susan

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Collins running Texas, and you can't have Ted Cruz running Maine.

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these races all over the country. We can make sure

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that they're well funded. We can make sure that the

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president is fully engaged, which is willing and ready to

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do whatever it takes.

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Speaker 2: And we're raising a ton of money.

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Speaker 3: I'm out here right now raising money, and we're going

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to continue to crush the Democrats and fundraising. You know,

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point eight billion. We're sitting on ninety two million dollars

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cash on hand at the Republican National Committee, where the

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Democrats have sitting on twelve million. And so we're out

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there hustling, we're working at we're doing everything we can

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to make sure everything is right because the only way

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we could win is if we do everything perfect, and

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that's the only way we're going to beat these trends.

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But we have the president, we have as policies, we

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have all these other.

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Speaker 2: Things going in our direction.

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Speaker 3: We just have to implement the plan that we created

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a couple of months ago and make.

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Speaker 2: Sure we follow it to a t.

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Speaker 1: And obviously money is a big part of that, and

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as you mentioned, the Republican National Committee has been doing

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an excellent job on that front. It helps when you

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have a star for a president. But speaking of the president,

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here is another challenge that you face, and I think

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you know this well, Joe, and that is he's not

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on the ballot, and that makes it even more difficult.

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all that surprising in this month's elections in some very

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deep blue states Virginia and New Jersey, where the Democrats

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had a great deal of success putting their leftist candidates

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out there disguising them as moderates or more moderating forces,

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which they are not. But all of that said, we

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did see you know, I think shyness on the part

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of the voter to get out there, if you will,

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without Donald Trump on the ballot. How do you win

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an election without Donald Trump on.

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Speaker 3: The ballot, Well by convincing the people that a vote

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for a non vote, or a vote for anything other

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than the Republican canad it's going to lead to, you know, investigations, impeachment,

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and obstructionist government. But basically, you know, we have I mean,

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we have a lot of things going for us.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's a we are.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, the President's willing to go to bat

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and he's willing to barmstorm the country.

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Speaker 2: He's willing to do, you know, whatever.

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Speaker 3: It takes, and yes, it's not going to be easy

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to get people out. But you know, what happened in

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Virginia and New Jersey and New York City and in

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some of these other places is no way in indication

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of what will happen in the midterms, because it's if

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you look at the voter registration numbers, it's similar to

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same voter registration in our.

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Speaker 2: Direction as West Virginia and Alaska.

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Speaker 3: So if we were to lose those state states, I

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would say it'd be an issue. But the fact that

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these are deep blue states, the results were not unexpected.

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It shows you that candidate quality and did listen, Jack

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what happened four years prior is you kind of snuck

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up on people because of his campaign style and his

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willingness to get out there and work, and they just didn't.

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where the voter registration split is. So I guess the

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best way to describe as people you know, voted their jerseys.

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we have a Tennessee special election that's.

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Speaker 2: More in our favor. If we were to lose.

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Speaker 3: That, I would say, that's you know, a clear indication.

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Speaker 2: I think we'll win that Tennessee special election.

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Speaker 3: I think we'll win some of these other elections that

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I think will serve building momentum as we head into

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the midterms. And like I said, the advantage that we

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have is the president, the president's policies, the president's ability

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to raise resources. You know, our finance share at the

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RNC is Vice President Advance.

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Speaker 2: It's the first time we've ever had a.

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Speaker 3: Vice president as our financier, and that's you know, he

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deserves a lot of credit for our complete domination when

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it comes to the resources, both from a cash on

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hand in total raise and so we're well prepared, and

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like I said, with everything else that we're doing, I

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think we could overcome the challenges, but it won't be easy.

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We have to do everything right and we're going to

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have to implement the plan.

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Speaker 4: New York's new mayor z or On Mom Donnie claims

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Donnie think every business owner is stealing from their workers

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and he's supposed to lead the business capital of the world.

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Whether it's happening in DC or down on Wall Street,

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Speaker 2: Be informed.

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Speaker 1: Well, you have another big, big benefit as the RNC

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is the Democratic Party which has absolutely lurched radical left.

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I don't remember who it was from, but said that

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the RNC would be Kamala Harris's biggest donor because obviously

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a horrible candidate for president. History has proved that. But

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how much are you going to lean into how radical

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this party has become and how much they have alienated

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the average American.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there's no question they've They've lost focus of

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common sense in the real world. And the fact that

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they're putting up candidates and winning and races like New

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York City with Mondami and AOC and Bernie Sanders, and

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the fact that you know, these these socialists, uh in,

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the radical left wing element of their party is basically

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leading and they and there's very little deviation from the

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left leading policies that they're pitching across the entire spectrum

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of the Democrats, where I think Republicans are more mainstream. Yes,

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the liberal, left wing, woke members of their party are

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in the leadership. That's who's leading their party. I mean,

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party from the standpoint of they're all, you know, basically

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in unison. They have no policies, they have no messaging

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other than the fact that they don't like the president.

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Speaker 2: They don't like what he's doing.

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Speaker 3: And the fact is is the president has been you know,

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look at what some of the things that the president

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has done from a going after the Middle America and

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trying to help the average working man and woman out there.

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decades the American worker for cheap foreign goods. And here

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the President, over the first nine to ten months of

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his administration, has already gotten twenty one trillion dollars in

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commitments for investments back into America, back into manufacturing, you know,

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back in which we'll put people to work and hopefully

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help raise real wages across the board. You know, he

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passed a big, beautiful bill, the no tax on tips,

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no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security, the

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additional childcare care tax credit, And what I think is

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going to be a game changer once it actually gets

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rolled out, which will be by July fourth, is the

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Trump bonds. You know, people aren't talking enough about that,

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but you know, how do you convince you know, people

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who are leaning into the socialist model and wanting everything

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for free, which you know, the Churchill had it right

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by calling it a disease and you know, a cancer

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that we have to cut out. But these Trump bonds,

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literally for every child under the age of two, they're

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going to be participating with money in the bank, participating

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in the market and that's the best way to attack

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socialism is by giving everybody a chance to participate in

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the capitalistic market and the sea and and I just

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could tell you from my own personal experience. My one

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of my sons was saving up and he wanted to

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buy some stocks, and so that we went through and said,

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you know, this is this is you know, pick a

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company that you think you like. And I ended up

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getting a cyber truck. And so we wanted to buy

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Tesla stock. And he saw that Tesla stock rise for

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seventy and now I think it's like four to twenty five.

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I'm just talking about a couple thousand dollars. But you

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know the fact that he wants to look at the

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value every single day, wants to see the progress where

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he is. It teaches him the value of investing the

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value of our system, and it creates buy in that

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a lot of people don't have right now. And I

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think that that's going to be the biggest game changer

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for the next generation, is the opportunity for these Trump bonds.

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And it's not for just for kids under two, they're

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the ones who will get the money in the accounts,

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but it's for people. Any child under the age of

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eighteen will have access to these accounts and their parents

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can kid with including with a tax deduction put them I.

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Speaker 2: Think five thousand dollars a year. And it's just a

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way for.

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Speaker 3: The entire country to hopefully get some buy in on

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the the system that has made America the best.

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Speaker 2: Possible place to live, work, and.

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Speaker 3: Retire because of your ability to go from nothing and

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to achieve the American dream all in one generation.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, Yeah, it's interesting that you say that I did

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the same thing with my son. I think it's a

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great exercise. You take a look at the marketplace. You

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get them interested in the marketplace. Unfortunately, I had suggested

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Blockbuster stock, so that didn't pay off at all. But

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you know, you know, I see one of the greatest

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educational moments for a young person for a pro capitalist

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point of view and an anti socialist point of view,

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is to get your first paycheck. And that's exactly what

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happened with my son when he started working. He got

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his paycheck and he said, well, where what is this?

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How I thought I made a lot more money than this.

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I said, well, that is your government taking away your

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money for all manner of taxation, and it is. It

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is quite a lesson that you learn about, you know,

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what happens with big government. Our guest today is Republican

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National Committee Chairman Joe Gruders. One of the interesting things

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that you've talked about about twenty twenty six and you

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said that you are all in on this and that

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is a mid term convention. It's an interesting idea that

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the president has put out there. Where does that stand

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right now?

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Speaker 2: Joe?

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Speaker 3: Listen, the president is always coming up with incredible ideas

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in ways, and you talk about, you know, how do

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you showcase and how do you get people to show

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up to devote for people other than the president themself.

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It's by showcasing exactly all the great things that the

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president has done and what Theublican leadership is able to

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accomplish when they have the you know, elected officials in

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place to make those votes and push those policies. And

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so that's what a convention we'll be able to do,

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is we'll have a couple of day almost sales pitch

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to the country to explain all the great policies, including

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going into detail.

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Speaker 2: And listen these policies at the President's pushing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, think about the fact that he's cleaning up

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the big cities. He's trying to eliminate the toxic poison

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that are flowing through our borders in terms of the

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toxic drugs and the you know, one hundred thousand you

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know people a year that die of drug overdoses. You know,

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I'm so excited to see him go after the drug

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votes and the point of entries and trying to make

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sure we stem the flow of those you know, the drugs.

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Speaker 2: That are killing all these kids.

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Speaker 3: And then the fact that he's pushed nine different piece deals.

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Speaker 2: Now there's a lot to celebrate that.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, the twenty one trillion dollars were worth

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of investments into America.

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Speaker 2: I think Joe Biden.

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Speaker 3: It was reported that the President Biden brought into one

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trillion over four years, and President Trump has already gotten

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twenty one trillion over you know, this first ten months.

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I Mean, the guy is absolutely the President's absolutely crushing it,

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and we need to be able to highlight all the

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good things he's doing so people could see. That's why

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you know, this this mid cycle convention makes sense. Not

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everything is finalized yet, and so we're still trying to

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see if we could from a logistical standpoint, from a

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space standpoint, we can make it work.

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Speaker 2: But the President had this idea. It's just a phenomenal idea.

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Speaker 3: And then I'm all in beause I'd love to see

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the President be able to do this on a national

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stage again, and I think would really help us as

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a party.

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Speaker 1: Any particular location at this point that you're thinking about,

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or a number of.

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Speaker 3: Options, there's a number of options out there where you know,

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you got to find This is always a challenge for

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a normal convention is you got to find a city

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that's willing to host you, and then you've got to

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find and see if you've got to make sure you

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can get the hotel rooms. So you have to have

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leadership on the ground at the local level, and then

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you have to have the ability to get enough hotel

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rooms you know, you know, ballroom type space and cooperation

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from a lot of different sources. And if you can

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make that happen, then then you can do it. But

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usually it comes down to one or two cities that

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can even logistically do it all. And so we're we're

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going through those processes right now and trying to set

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something up.

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit like the Olympics without the long jump,

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isn't it. I mean, yes, you have to you have

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to have the infrastructure in place to be able to

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do it. You talked about investments before, and a lot

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of what the President has done that I don't think

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he gets credit for, and certainly not from the accomplice media,

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the prov depress. He doesn't get a lot of credit

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for the investments that are yet to pay off down

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the road. You talk about the trillions of dollars in

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investments into this economy by other countries and companies. You

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talk about the big beautiful bill which next year will

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finally kick in, and that's when you'll start to see,

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you know, the tax relief that we've talked about, but

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will it be too late? Americans can be very fickle.

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And the other part of this equation is the affordability question.

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That's where better or worse, and it is much worse.

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Mom Donnie and the socialist movement in New York, they

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were very clear about their message now the way they're

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going to go about it. History has shown over many,

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many years that that is a path to failure. But

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what about the affordability questions. What's the messaging from Republicans

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on that very key issue because a guy once said

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that it is the economy stupid, and you know that

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is going to be the issue in twenty six again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great question, Matt.

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Speaker 3: And the best thing I could tell you is the

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fact that the President's been focused on the economy and

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affordability since day one. But the problem, You're exactly right.

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You can't always measure everything the very next day something passes.

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We've been dealing with, you know, four years of Biden inflation,

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in these runaway both you know, interest rates, all these

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inflationary measures under the Biden administration that were pushed up

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and to make things unaffordable, and the fact that the

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president had to come in and try to fix some

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of the stuff and get spending under control and get

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these other they get the plan in place to try

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to bring down some of these prices. But that's what

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the Big Beautiful Bill was about, Like the no tax

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on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on social Security.

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All these efforts are going to take time to be felt.

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And I feel and I know the President has empathy

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for people out there that are struggling, and so the

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question is is how do we keep the country rolling?

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And all I could say is, look at what the

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President is doing on a daily basis to go out

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there and help the average American worker. He is focused

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on raising real rate wages, which has already done. He's

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focused on getting costs down. But sometimes these things take time.

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But I would say he's been successful. But we have

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to continue to communicate everything that the president's doing on

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behalf of the American people and not let the mainstream

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media all the time, you know, continue to pump negative

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coverage of the president when he deserves so much more

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for everything that he's done on behalf of the American people.

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Speaker 1: Well, the corporate media is going to continue to do

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that because they have shown over the years. And I'm

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very proud of The Federalist last night winning a very

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prestigious reporting award for its very long, arduous work, very

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late nights uncovering the Russia collusion hoax. That's just one

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of many things that this corporate media has been absolutely

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all in on. My goodness, The New York Times Washington

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Post won Pulitzers for lying to the American people on

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this stuff. So you're never going to get a break

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from them. And I'm curious about that because you've taken

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a little different approach over your time. I know that,

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you know, as a state senator, you got to work

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with people, You got to you know, you have to

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answer questions for the media. But how could White you

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think so many Republicans still think they have to play

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nicey nice with the New York Times and CNN and

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the rest when you're never going to get You're never

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going to get a break from these folks.

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Speaker 3: I think everybody has to go through the process of learning,

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you know.

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Speaker 2: I think everybody in that goes.

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Speaker 3: For elected office thinks they have the ability and that

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they have the magic touch with the press.

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Speaker 2: It's not easy. You're right. A lot of these guys.

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Their whole goals is.

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Speaker 3: To trap you and to try to talk to you

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for thirty minutes for one ten second SoundBite that had

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nothing to do with what you were saying.

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Speaker 2: And people learn and they move on and they get better.

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Speaker 3: But you know, we have to engage where we can,

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and we just have to stay on script and have

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try to help all of our electeds with talking points

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and making sure they have the right message, because if

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you don't give them anything, then what happens is is

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that there's no other side of the story. And so

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I think sometimes that they prefer that, and so even

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if you gets something, it's sometimes it's better than nothing,

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but it's we're always working on it.

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Speaker 2: We're always working on.

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Speaker 3: You know, communications strategies with all of our candidates out

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there and elected officials, and I think we've gotten better

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and with the advancement of all these different platforms, just

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like your platform, Matt, you know, we could take the

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message directly to the people and it's been beneficial to

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us overall.

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Speaker 1: Back to twenty twenty six for a moment. We're running

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out of time, and I did want to ask you

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the question about election integrity, that such a vital part,

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such an important it always is. We learned that we've

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learned a lot since twenty twenty and the RNs SEE

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was very much committed to calling out irregularities and clear

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violations of election law. They did that extremely well in

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twenty twenty four. What is the plan for making sure

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because let's face it, democrats are desperate. I really do

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believe we're going to see an uptick in Shenanigans in

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twenty twenty six. How do you keep this election clean

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and fair?

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Speaker 3: Well, listen, we're going to continue to keep our foot

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on the pedal and we're not going to live up

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from election integrity standpoint. The President made it very clear

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to me that the most important job of the party

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is to make sure.

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Speaker 2: We protect the vote.

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Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, I follow last it I

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think two days ago in New Jersey on some voter

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role type issues, and we're constantly fighting these battles. You know,

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we're the nucleus from behalf of the entire Republican umbrella

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that really fights the election integrity issues. We have ninety

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four or five active lawsuits right now on issues ranging

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from trying to prevent illegals from voting, trying to make

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sure we can have clean voter rules, trying to make

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sure we have equal access to the election poll workers,

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poll watchers, voter registration.

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Speaker 2: Issues, on and on and on.

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Speaker 3: We used to take a much more reactive approach now

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where He've been very proactive in our efforts to try

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to make sure that we do everything we can to

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make it as easy as possible to you know, we

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want to make it as easy as possible to vote

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and as hard as possible to cheat.

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Speaker 1: That's really what it comes down to. Final question for you.

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You've known the president since before he was the president.

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You were among the first to endorse him and to

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lead his campaigns, obviously in Florida and nationally back in

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twenty fifteen. In the twenty sixteen this is the question

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I think a lot of Americans are curious about. How

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does this guy do it? I mean, he is a dynamo.

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Speaker 5: If I am, if I am lucky enough to get

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to my late seventies with the health path that I'm on,

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I hope to have, you know, a tenth of the

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energy that this guy has.

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Speaker 1: How does he do it?

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Speaker 2: Well? Listen, He's a machine.

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Speaker 3: He is an absolute superstar of an individual. And obviously

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I think it's just he's just working around the clock,

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and I don't have the sanama to stay with him.

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I think he only sleeps three and a half hours

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a night, four hours a night.

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Speaker 2: He just works it.

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Speaker 3: And listen, when I'm with him, you know, with your

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president President United States, and even before that, when he

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was when he had control of his empire.

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Speaker 2: Now that his sons have you know, you could see

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people come in and.

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Speaker 3: Out every couple of minutes with different issues, and he

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has the ability to make decisions, move the ball forward,

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execute different plans. I mean, the guy is not only brilliant,

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has a brilliant mind, but he genuinely cares for others.

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And and that's what you really miss. And I you know,

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Trump arrangement syndrome is real, and I think it's been

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almost like a psyops type effort on the other side

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and by different institutions to try to distort the image

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of the president. But deep down and by spending all

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this time with him, and by being with him long

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before he was president, I will tell you that he

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cares greatly about the lives of others, and he wants

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everybody to improve. He wants everybody around him to be successful.

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And he is a great human being. But yes, he

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he is.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent all the time.

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Speaker 3: And but that's why he's always been so successful and

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everything he's done, he's he's the economic superstar of the

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you know, I'm a champion of the world, I'd like

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to say.

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Speaker 2: And he's just.

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Speaker 3: A beast from the standpoint of being able to accomplish

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so much as one individual, he's truly a great leader.

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I'm so thankful to be able to help him, try

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to make sure that he gets served a full four years.

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Speaker 1: Three and a half hours of sleep a night. I

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need at least a full eight with my sleep at

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the machine. So that tells you the difference that we're facing, Yes, well, wow,

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it definitely is. And you see presidency that has been

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extremely active, extremely on the move, and he's the reason why. Obviously.

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Thanks to my guest today are NC Chairman Joe Gruders.

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You've been listening to another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour.

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I'm Matt Kittle, Senior elections correspondent at the Federalist. We'll

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be back soon with more. Until then, stay lovers of

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freedom and anxious for the frame Bot Time Time