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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to a brand new month. Welcome to

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the final month of the year, and off of a

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weekend that has seen fight cards in England as well

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as California with the debut of legendary a Hall of

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Famer Manny Pacquiaw's Sun Manny Junior. We're ready to recap

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what there was this weekend in boxing. We're ready to

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hear from the WBC featherweight champion, Stephen Fulton, who is

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moving up to junior lightweight to battle O'shaki Foster this weekend,

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this coming Saturday, December sixth, in a world title fight.

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Speaker 1: No, but maybe it should be. But I'm just saying,

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you gave that for free. On the weekend. I caught

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some of that. But we love it, we love it,

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the Arizona Cardinals, and so now there's still very much

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in the playoff picture. We love playoff checks, big Dan,

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you know how that works. I got played to eat

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this weekend. I did send you the photo, did I not?

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Of the mother in laws pecan pie homemade.

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I can't believe I'm saying. It's December the first on Monday.

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Here we are here, we are to the final month

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of the year. But before we get there, let's look

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back on what happened on Saturday. Let's begin with Ben Whittaker,

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not unexpected, does knock out Benjamin Gavazzi in the main

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event the Matchroom de Own show in Birmingham Ingley, England.

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And it did not take long. We don't have a

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lot to analyze here. He wiped the guy out. I

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will say this in watching that whole first round, Gavazzi

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did not put up any resistance and was almost looking

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I'm saying this like for a soft place to land,

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and Whittaker Wambam got him out of there.

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Speaker 3: Your thoughts, Look, I don't think Ivasi was necessarily looking

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for a soft place to land. I just think that,

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you know, this was the kind of fight where you

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kind of felt what was gonna happen when they signed

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the contracts, he was completely out of his depths. So

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there's two ways to look at it. On the one hand,

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and Eddie Herdan mentioned this in his interview that he

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did afterwards. If you're gonna be in this type of

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matchup where you know that your guy, Ben Whittaker is

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levels above the man at the very least, he went

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and he did what he was supposed to do. So

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he went in there and he absolutely destroyed the guy

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in a little over two minutes of the first round

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with two knockdowns and got the knockout. So if he

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had gone beyond that and it goes into I'm not

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saying he can't get him into two or two rounds,

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you know, but if it goes deep into a ten

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round fight, now you're gonna start to question it and

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people are gonna complain and well, he's not that good horse.

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you don't feel like he got your money's worth. I mean,

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you're in a no win situation. So the way to

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win that no win situation is to do what you're

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supposed to do, which is just destroy a guy that

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had no business being in the rank. So, as we

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discussed in the preview, DJ, he was nineteen and oh,

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or rather he was ninth? Was he nineteen and one

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coming into the fight? But and then I told you

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about the records of the kind Now, and keep in

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mind the loss that he took was in his twenty

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eighteen professional debut in a four round decision, and then

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he had won, you know, all the rest of his

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fights forward up until the Ben Whitaker fight. But the

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records of the opponents that he had faced he never

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fought a blessed soul of any caliber rights. And although

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Ben Whittaker is a prospect who was undefeated, he did

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have that one messy technical decision because of the injury

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and all, which he avenged by a second round knockout

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in his last fight back in April. Obviously as a

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professional highly untested, but as an amateur we all know

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he was the goods. The guy's a silver medal winner

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in the Olympics. Massive speed, massive accomplishment, massive talent. I mean,

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you can just tell you knows how to fight. That's

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the point that Eddie likes to make also, So we

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agree on those elements and things. That said. As a

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main event on his own, which I pay for every year,

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or you could pay for it every month, this was

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not getting your money's worth. This was a tepid card

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at best. To be polite, it was an awful main

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event on paper and in practice unless you just get

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off on, you know, seeing an overmatch guy get destroyed

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in two minutes. I guess some people like that. I

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like a little more competition of my fights. But I

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don't blame Ben Whittaker. Ben Whittaker is the fighter. You know,

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his management and his promotion, they're the ones that picked

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the opponent. He went in there. He came in good shape,

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you know, he styled and profiled on his way to

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the ring. It was a ring interest. I've seen it before.

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I've said this before. Your thought on this.

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Speaker 1: He's long on the hot dog, on the showboating even

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during fights, clowning around. We need to see more of

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the skills. And we didn't see him for that long

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the other the other night. But you know, let's tone

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down all of the clowning and hot dogging. Let's see

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him fight a better fighter, and let's see the skills

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if he.

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Speaker 3: I don't mind the showmanship on a ringwalk, no matter what,

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because again the pain.

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Speaker 2: But I'm talking about in the ring.

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Speaker 1: I mean the stuff that he was doing before, doing

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the Comby dance and sticking the tongue out and dancing around.

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Speaker 3: That's just who he is and everything. But get you switter,

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don't watch him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, okay, yeah, but fight somebody. And then when

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you start doing that stuff and they punch you, then

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I'm interested.

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Speaker 3: I agree, okay, And so to me, the jury is out,

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they claim a that room that you know this was

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clearly let's just showcase him. Let's get him a highlight

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reel kind of win, which this was a highlight reel

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knockout as a massive right hand that put him out

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the second time when he dropped him and knocked him out.

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the round too. So this was that fight, and now

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they're prepared they claim for an aggressive twenty twenty six

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where I would imagine he'll fight four times and he

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will step up his level of opposition to some degree.

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twenty one year old kid. He's twenty eight years old

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as a light heavyweight should be, you know, just about

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entering his prime. But he's a little behind schedule because

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he stayed amateur longer than some and so he went

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for the medal. He got it. So now it's time

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you got You got your apprenticeship out of the way,

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you got your first fight against you know, a lesser

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opponent in your Mattroom debut. Now it's time to start

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to move up the ranks. And by the way, there's

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plenty of light heavyweights who may not be the elite

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light heavyweights, but are guys that could bring competition or

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at least have name value. I saw some people on

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my social media commenting. People were mentioning guys like Joshua Blatzi,

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Guys like Zach Parker. You know, they fought each other.

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that can make for a solid fight. And give him

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the rounds and the competition theoretically that he needs. But

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to me, the jury is out, Like I'm gonna I'm

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gonna revisit Ben Whitaker's situation. No, I'm going to give

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him another Like let's say, let's see what happens through

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twenty twenty six where he's at. I suspect he's going

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to be on the verge of fighting for a world

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title at some point the bee ble titles will fracture eventually,

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and you know he figures to be right there. He

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can move offully quick because the one thing if you

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take all the bullshit aside, you take all the nonsense

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with the ring walks and all the things that you

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should drive people crazy. Twenty years ago, Prince Nasim Ahmed

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he would come to the ring with the same stuff,

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but then he would go knock the guy out whoever

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he was fighting, and he won a whole bunch of

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featherweight title belts. If Ben Winner can can do that,

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and he can do all the clowning he wants, no problem,

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but you got to back it up. And so far,

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so good, but it's against nobody in particular. The funny

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thing about it is Besides all the stuff we're talking

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about with the nonsense and the ring and the showboating,

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when you just hear him talk, or you hear how

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he acts or is towards people, I've seen how he's

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dealt with certain media, people like he is actually a

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pretty cool guy like Andy Lee, who is his trainer,

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who I have the highest regard for of you know,

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just about anybody you could think of him. Boxing speaks

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about him about what a pleasant person he is, what

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a hard worker he is, what a just a good

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guy he is, what a good heart he has. So

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you know that means something to me anyway, not that

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they care what my opinion is. I'm just snaking the

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point though, that he also have to remember at show business,

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he's out there trying to make his name bigger, get

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himself exposure, which ultimately he believes will lead to bigger

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pay days.

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Speaker 2: All right, stay tuned on Whitaker.

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Speaker 1: Also in England the Boxer BBC main event card in Derby, England,

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which I believe was also what on Triller Plus in

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the United States. This is Shshkiva right TKV and he

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wins over Fraser Clark to win the vacant British Heavyweight

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Championship a twelve round decision. We're deep in the weeds

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with this kind of matchup. Give me the quick Rayfield

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assessment in the recap.

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Speaker 3: I don't think we're that deep in the weeds. It's

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British heavyweights, so they're fighting for a respected historical title.

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Fraser Clark was a medalist in the twenty twenty Olympics

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and Shakiva had been in a loss in his previous

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fight against against David A Dela for the same title,

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which was very controversial in the way that it was

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ended because of the stop in the way the referee

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got involved with the stoppage, and you know, eventually a

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Dela gave up the title. So he got an opportunity

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now to fight Clark for this title. And it was

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from the significant standpoint was Doctor kicking off its BBC deal.

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Remember their their agreement with Sky Sports came to an

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They ultimately made their deal for a lot less money

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by the way, with BBC, which hadn't done boxing on

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a regular basis for literally twenty years or twenty one

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years actually, and so this was the kickoff event. It

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was postponed by about a month because there was an injury.

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it was not a bad fight. I mean it was sloppy,

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kind of messy. You know, two big heavyweights, not the

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most skillful heavyweights in the world, but big dudes.

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Speaker 2: Do you agree with the winner? Did they?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Shikiva won the fight. You know, he goes like

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two sixty five, Fraser Clark about two seventy. There, big dues.

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You know, maybe not in the greatest shape necessarily as

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far as the way their body looks, but they were

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in shape to be able to go the rounds they

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did and take the punishment. They dished out a tremendous

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amount of punishment on each other. If you like inside

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fighting and you like two big guys, they're winging hooks

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and uppercuts and some body shots. This was a pretty

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solid fight. I enjoyed it. I did watch it because

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I subscribed to Trailer Plus. And here's the thing about it, though,

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so TKV, which is his nickname, he got the duck

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at a point for a low blow in the third round,

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and then he could have maybe even given the eleventh

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round to him as a ten eight round, even though

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he didn't have a knockdown, he really really had Treasure

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Clark in very very serious trouble in eleven and twelve. Now,

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the first half of the fight, I thought that Clark

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was winning the fight. He was doing a lot of

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good body punching a lot of good clean shots, and

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he had TKV holding on quite a bit. But he

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kind of lost his wind a little bit and TKV

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kind of came on in that second half. Definitely won

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a bunch of those rounds, and even with the points,

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with the point he lost on the on the low blow,

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the one sided nature of round eleven, which I actually

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just had it as a ten nine round, but it

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was still a pretty big round for him. He did

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this similar in round twelve, not as much. He definitely

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did enough to me to win that fight seven five

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eighty four. But the the the action, the drama of

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the fight really became about those last few rounds because

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Fraser Clark was pretty much done in the eleventh round.

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I have no idea how he stayed on his feet.

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in the will that he showed because he was just

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taking absolute fucking beating and in the corner there was

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a lot of drama his trainer, Angel Fernandez. You know,

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there was a lot of like, I'm gonna stop the fight.

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Are you hear can you hear me? You know? Are

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you okay? Like up until the moment that the bell

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rang to let twelve start, I thought they're gonna pull

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them out, They're gonna stop the fight, and they let

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it go. Clark got off the stool, he took a

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little bit of a some more shots in round twelve,

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and you know, they were talking about how Angel Fernandez

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is sitting there poised on the by the ring that

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with a white towel, ready to throw it in. But

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Fraser Clark, to his credit, he made it to the

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final bell. And I think that was mainly because TKV

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was so fucking gassed that even when he had him

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hurting round twelve, he just couldn't eat punch himself out.

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He couldn't throw another shot. I feel like, you know,

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he could have hit him with like a half hearted shot.

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He might have knocked Fraser Clark down. But there were

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some drama. So if you like heavyweight, so I mean

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I enjoyed that fight a lot. It wasn't going to

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remind you of Alexander Russik against Tyson Fury won er

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from Larry Holmes against Kenny Norton or something like that.

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But it was, you know, for for a diversion on

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an otherwise lacklust or Saturday of fights. I was pretty

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happy with it. And so here's the crazy thing about it,

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TJ so that the broadcast of the de Zone show

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in the East Coast, their main card started at two

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pm Eastern. This boxer card started on Triller at one

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pm Eastern, and all their fights pretty much were going

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the distance. And so by the time that the highvyweight

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main event was over and I flipped over to the Zone,

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which I had been sort of half heartedly monitoring up

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until that point, I got there just as the Whitaker

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fight had ended. Like that's how like, cause it was

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one round. So I just had to rewind, you know,

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on my stream, and I was watching on my phone

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and was able to watch that fight, but it only

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took me about two and a half minutes to do so.

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So they concluded at the same time roughly, even though

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one started a good hour before the other, because made

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such quick work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was over with quick. All right, so there's

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a little British. We will get to Stephen Fulton in

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a couple of moments.

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Speaker 3: But yes, no, I was gonna say, now the big talking.

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You know, if you're into British heavyweights, I know there's

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a lot of people that are apparently they're going to

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look to do TKV to defend this British title. There

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was a lot of chatter about him fighting David Allen,

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who was the sort of the folk hero British heavyweight

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of the moment that everybody seems to love win or lose.

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So all right, and if you're into British heavyweights, that'll

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be a fun fight.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we'll get Stephen Fulton in a moment. But

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Manny Pacqui, how junior Jim Mule right that they're they're

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calling him did have his pro debut on the undercart

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of the Many Pacquiao Promotion show in te Mechula, California.

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Speaker 2: And Jim Mule did not win the debut.

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Speaker 1: In fact, there was no winner. It was a draw

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with Brendan Lally. They were both making their pro debut.

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I did not know this. I did not get this

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from the rayphel preview in the build up that Brendan

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Lalley is a part time high school teacher as well

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as being a boxer from boxer. Now, all right, so

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this this ends with being a majority draw. Two judges

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in the four round fight had a draw. The third

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judge gave it to Paqiao Junior. All right, give me

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a thought or two here in a recap.

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Speaker 3: Well, when you say that it wasn't a win or

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a loss because it was a draw, here's the reality,

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fair or unfair. It's a loss for Manny Pacao in

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the hearts and minds of people watching for two reasons.

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Number One, when you are the son of one of

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the greatest legends who ever put on gloves in the

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history of prize fighting, and you're held to a draw

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by a part time high school teacher, you you laws,

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you probably lost the fight. I mean, when you make

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pro debuts, whether you're an Olympian or the progeny of

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some famous fighter or the A side or the sign fighter,

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and they bring in a school teacher or a you know,

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some type of well, you know whatever, some person that

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has this is not a full time box I'm not

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the meaning teachers. I'm just saying if you're not a

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full time boxer. You're the guy they bring in for

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the to be in that opponent spot. You're supposed to

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get wiped out. Most most guys who make pro debuts

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with any semblance of accomplishment or with a promotional contract

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or the son or daughter for that matter, of a

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famous fighter, most of it, like ninety nine point nine

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percent of the time, you go in there and you

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absolutely destroy the person in like a couple of you know,

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thirty seconds. I mean, there's some examples where it didn't

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quite work out that way. We could go back to

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the ridiculous pro debut of Robesi Ramirez who lost his

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professional debut as an Olympic gold medalist. That was kind

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of ridiculous. But Manny Jimuel Pacyau junior with father at

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his side and poor Jinky his mother sitting ringside like

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she wanted to cry every time her baby got hit

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by a punch. I mean, he's twenty four years old.

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He's not twenty like his dad was when he was

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already a world champion. To just be real it, I mean,

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maybe you know he'll prove everybody wrong, but coming off

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those four rounds, this does not a long professional boxing

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cur of a future champion. He lost the fight he did.

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The ESPN deportees commentators had a thirty ninth to thirty

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seven in favor of Lally. I had a thirty ninth

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to thirty seven for Lally. Uh it turned out to

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be majority draw. Uh, you know it is what it is.

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I mean, clearly they were giving him the benefit of

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the now pack out. But if you didn't know that,

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that was many Paco son and they just stuck the

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fighting in front of your face and scored these four rounds,

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most likely you'd be scoring it for Brendan Lally, who

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you know, looked like he just won the fucking lottery

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when they announced the draw.

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Speaker 2: How about that? All right?

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Speaker 1: Again, he's not his father, he's not close to his

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father yet. By the way, maybe it'll develop, maybe it won't.

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Maybe he doesn't have anything.

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Speaker 2: We don't know. We do know this, We have this.

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Speaker 1: Now let me set it up thusly, you're about to

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hear from Steven Fulton and uh, this was an interview

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conducted over a month ago now, because we have been

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waiting to play this for the build up to fight

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week here for his fight with O Shaky Foster that

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was originally sup to be part of the fight card,

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right with Sebastian Fundora and Keith Thurman. That got Oilbert

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October October twenty fifth, So Fondora got hurt. You had

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done the interview. The interview is still good. The interview

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is still Stephen Fulton talking about fighting Oshaki Foster for

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Foster's WBC one and thirty pound title. All right, so

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let's go to this conversation now for the Q and

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A with the Philadelphia fighter who's the WBC featherweight champion

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moving up in weight. This is on the undercard of

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the PBC Prime Show PBC Prime Video pay per view

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that is in San Antonio, Texas. Here is Dan with

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Steven Fulton.

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Speaker 3: So I wanted to start off with your last fight,

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which was an oppressive win where you defeated Brandon Figuerreau

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and you won this WBC featherweight title that you have

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in a rematch when you guys fought a few years earlier,

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back in twenty twenty one, that was to unify the

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titles in the junior featherweight division. It was a tremendous fight.

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A lot of people had it as a Fight of

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the Year candidate you won a majority decision. A lot

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of people thought that that he should have been the

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winner of the fight. So I wonder when you went

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into the rematch and you won and there was no

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dispute this time, it was a very clear cut victory.

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Uh how much did it did it mean to you

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to show, like, you know what, forget about whatever the

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dispute was, I'm the better guy. I beat this guy

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clean this time. Yeah? I mean was that like important

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to you to show that there was no dispute this

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time about the outcome of the fight.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I just wanted the boat. I wanted to be

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two division world change. I just wanted to bot.

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Speaker 3: Do you feel like you performed better in that fight though,

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than you did in the first fight, because the first fight,

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whoever won, it was a really close fight.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I think I performed a lot better. I saved

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myself some years by now getting into a war, right,

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So that was good as well.

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Speaker 3: Was it a matter of maybe from the experience to

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going the twelve with him in the first time around

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that maybe yeah?

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Speaker 4: I was familiar with them, Yeah, I was familiar with them.

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His style. What's not being a ring with you one time?

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Then the next time is like, all right, I got

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I got you how you operate?

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Speaker 3: After you won that fight and you uh won the title,

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like you said, in the second division, that was after

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though you had moved up from one hundred and twenty

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two where you had been a world champion. Uh. After

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you or I mean after you defeated him in the

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first fight you moved up to or you you went

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on I should say, uh as a unified champion, defended

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the title. Then you traveled to Japan. You did what

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a lot of people UH don't want to do. You

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went over to overseas, to the enemy territory. Well you're

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not scared.

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Speaker 4: I know that these fights maybe, but they really be scared.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, you showed you were no fear in

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you because you did travel to Noi in a ways

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home turf. In Japan, you were a champion. He was

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the undisputed bantamweight champion. Moving up you were the unified

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junior featherweight champion. Obviously, Uh. You know that was a

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tough night for you. Didn't win the fight. He stopped

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you in round eight.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: But was there anything positive that you could take from

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that experience of, like you said, having a fearless nature

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to go there, to give it everything, to fight in

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front of that crowd, and to be in the ring

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with one of the best fighters in boxing.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I could take. I took some positive things

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from me, oh yeah. And one of it was experience.

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It allowed me to be had more experience. And now

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when I do fight, Yo, like when I fight in

476
00:21:35,279 --> 00:21:38,480
the United States, I don't be nervous or anything like.

477
00:21:38,519 --> 00:21:41,720
That's why I just walk around confident, but like just

478
00:21:41,799 --> 00:21:44,720
quiet or just like unbothered at times when I'm at

479
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:49,279
these press conferences or face like when I'm fighting in

480
00:21:49,319 --> 00:21:53,279
the United States, now I'll be unbothered. And it's because

481
00:21:53,319 --> 00:21:59,519
of the experience of me breaking that barrier, of that

482
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,960
comfort zone being uncomfortable. I first went to Japan, it

483
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,960
was a little bit uncomfortable at first, but I was like,

484
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,279
I'm here now, so here.

485
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,599
Speaker 3: Like you said, you you you gained the experience there,

486
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,119
so are you saying that when you got there you

487
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,119
were there were maybe more nerves than usual when you

488
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:18,880
were getting ready.

489
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,079
Speaker 4: Just because it was a different element. But I wasn't

490
00:22:22,319 --> 00:22:24,920
nervous for the fight. I was just it was nervous

491
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,119
of where I was, where I was like my location

492
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,920
and me just looking at everything I'm sitting. You're really

493
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:37,240
across the whole worlds about you. You really crazy, Like

494
00:22:37,319 --> 00:22:40,480
you're really crazy. I said, no, that's why I do that.

495
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,599
I get a rush out of the challenge myself and

496
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,200
doing things like that. So when loser draw, that's that

497
00:22:45,279 --> 00:22:48,640
still was like an amazing experience for me.

498
00:22:49,599 --> 00:22:52,839
Speaker 3: Did you realize Steph, that a lot of people, whatever

499
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,359
the result of the fight was that you among the

500
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,759
boxing public and among the boxing press, even though it

501
00:22:58,799 --> 00:23:01,160
wasn't a victory, you got so much credit for being

502
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,880
the one guy that raised his hand and said I'll

503
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,799
go there and fight the guy as the champion. Right?

504
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,319
Did that at least give you like a positive attitude

505
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,200
about it even though it didn't go the way you

506
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:11,960
hoped it would.

507
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 4: You know, I didn't. I didn't care about it because

508
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,400
that's that's how I've always been. I've always been as

509
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,559
a since a child, I've always been the one that said,

510
00:23:20,559 --> 00:23:22,240
you know what, I do it when everybody else was

511
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,720
scared to do something. Even as a kid, I was

512
00:23:24,759 --> 00:23:26,519
the one, all right, I'll do it. That's how I

513
00:23:26,519 --> 00:23:28,400
got this mark on my on my head. Like you

514
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,400
probably can't see it right. It was. I had a

515
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,799
little dent right there and everything everybody. I used to

516
00:23:33,839 --> 00:23:39,319
be like a little dar devil. I think I might

517
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,480
have passed out. I got up too high and I

518
00:23:43,519 --> 00:23:45,839
came right down on my face boom, and I slid.

519
00:23:46,759 --> 00:23:49,680
How long hands everything I had? They had to wrap

520
00:23:49,759 --> 00:23:51,880
my head? Was it a hospital?

521
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,559
Speaker 3: Looking back on the experience, how good is in a way?

522
00:23:55,599 --> 00:23:56,839
You're the guy that was in there in front of

523
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,279
him in the ring, and a lot of people have him.

524
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 4: He's good.

525
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 3: That's you fought?

526
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, he beat me, okay, fair enough?

527
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 3: Well, I mean look after that you moved up to featherweight. Yeah,

528
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,440
you got a good victory against Carlos Castro and the

529
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,359
eliminator that sets you up for the title fight that

530
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,160
you won this WBC title and now you're going to

531
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,279
one hundred and thirty pounds to challenge O'shaki Foster for

532
00:24:20,319 --> 00:24:23,480
his WBC title. In that way, class, how did the

533
00:24:23,519 --> 00:24:25,920
fight come about to you? Because it kind of to

534
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,039
me anyway, not that it's unusual for a featherweight champion

535
00:24:29,079 --> 00:24:31,000
to move up and fight a junior lightweight champion, but

536
00:24:31,079 --> 00:24:33,119
this particular matchup, But to me anyway, kind of came

537
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,880
out of the blue. Was this a fight that you

538
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,519
were campaigning for or did somebody from your team bring

539
00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:39,559
it to you or did they make an overtore to you?

540
00:24:39,599 --> 00:24:40,839
How did it all come about?

541
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 4: Both? I had it in mine by somebody from my

542
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,799
camp brung it to me as well, But I had

543
00:24:45,799 --> 00:24:48,400
it in mine and was who I wanted to Plus,

544
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,559
I knew I wanted to go up and fight for

545
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:51,440
that belt.

546
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 3: For the one hundred and thirty Was it against any

547
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,160
one hundred and thirty pounds belt or foster in particular?

548
00:24:58,039 --> 00:25:00,839
Speaker 4: It was really any, but like that was more reasonable.

549
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,920
So it was like, yeah, he did say something before,

550
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,960
so let me let me, let me let me go

551
00:25:06,079 --> 00:25:07,519
up there and handle that.

552
00:25:08,519 --> 00:25:10,599
Speaker 3: So if you win this fight, you do become a

553
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,599
three division world champion. You've been a champion at junior featherweight,

554
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,440
you are currently a featherweight champion. You would then become

555
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,240
one hundred and thirty pounds or eight hundred and thirty

556
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,319
pounds champion. What would that accomplishment mean to you? It's, uh,

557
00:25:21,519 --> 00:25:23,160
you know, lots of guys have done it, but it's

558
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,240
still pretty uncommon to become a three division world champion.

559
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 4: I mean a lot. It will mean a lot. Yes,

560
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,720
So that's my that's that's my main goal is to

561
00:25:34,799 --> 00:25:37,240
you know, I'm just I'm just starting. I'm be honest,

562
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,480
I'm just starting to get motivated, like today for.

563
00:25:41,519 --> 00:25:44,039
Speaker 3: The fight or just yeah, for the fight. What is

564
00:25:44,079 --> 00:25:44,799
it about today?

565
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 4: You know how it is in a fight week like,

566
00:25:49,839 --> 00:25:51,640
well you have you haven't been a fighter.

567
00:25:51,839 --> 00:25:53,759
Speaker 3: I know how it is as a as a media person,

568
00:25:53,799 --> 00:25:57,519
not as.

569
00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, so as a fighter. When you're around the atmosphere

570
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,440
of the of the fight, that's when it feels like

571
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,400
a fight, Like all right, yeah, all right, you get

572
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,400
that movie. It's like, okay, I'm out the fight. Really

573
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,160
about the fight? Doing these interviews is what's making me like,

574
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,279
oh damn, now, really about the fight is right here?

575
00:26:11,599 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I guess I'm glad to help it. I'm

576
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,559
glad to help with the motivation as you go to

577
00:26:18,599 --> 00:26:20,960
one hundred and thirty. Though, when you think in the

578
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,839
in the in the more in the future, if you

579
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,599
do it all, do you feel like this is your

580
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,920
maximum weight or do you have harbor like the desire

581
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,519
maybe someday I'm gonna try to be a lightweight champion. Yeah,

582
00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:33,839
I'll go up, you will go up again. So is

583
00:26:33,839 --> 00:26:37,279
it fair to say then that whatever happens against Foster,

584
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,319
that you are done as a featherweight, and that you

585
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,279
will win or lose your vacate or would you, if

586
00:26:42,319 --> 00:26:44,920
you win or lose, come back to featherweight to do something,

587
00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:46,759
especially if you were the winner to defend the title

588
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,279
or have you not thought about that?

589
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 4: When I went out, stayed there at one.

590
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 3: Thirty, So all done at one twenty six.

591
00:26:54,279 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 4: Then I'm gonna stay at one thirty?

592
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,559
Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough? How do you feel like you match

593
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,839
up with Foster? He's a couple in just taller than you,

594
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,559
maybe a little longer in reach, a similar number of

595
00:27:03,559 --> 00:27:05,160
professional fights between you two guys.

596
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 4: Feel like it's a good fight. Feel like it's a

597
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:13,119
good matchup. It's an exciting matchup. He's a box I'm

598
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,799
a boxer. So we'll have to error. Both parties will

599
00:27:15,799 --> 00:27:18,519
have to switch things up and see how we'll fight

600
00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:21,200
each other. My job is to make the adjustments.

601
00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:24,799
Speaker 3: He's run. He's a talented guy. I've watched him fight

602
00:27:24,839 --> 00:27:27,119
plenty of times. He runs a little hot and cold,

603
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,400
do you know what I mean? Like even in fights.

604
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,519
Sometimes when he wins, it's maybe not this and he'll

605
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,200
be the first to admit it's maybe not the best performance.

606
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,440
And you know, and the one time he lost, obviously

607
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,039
it was not a great performance on his behalf either.

608
00:27:40,279 --> 00:27:42,279
How do you how do you think that he stacks

609
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,519
up with you in terms of his skills, his power,

610
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,559
his speed, things that you may have seen if you

611
00:27:47,559 --> 00:27:51,440
watched any videos of him, that type of thing. That

612
00:27:51,519 --> 00:27:54,119
last part again, just just I'm asking, like, your thoughts

613
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,119
when you've watched, if you've watched video thoughts on him? Yeah,

614
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,599
how you match up with him? Like you know, speed defense?

615
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:00,799
How you name it?

616
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:02,759
Speaker 1: Oh?

617
00:28:04,279 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 3: I mean have you watched videos of the guy?

618
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 4: Like a minute?

619
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 3: You leave that to your trainer? I guess yeah, okay,

620
00:28:12,279 --> 00:28:14,160
well I guess you can. You can give me a

621
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,880
more detailed explanation after the fight.

622
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,039
Speaker 4: I suppose, yeah, yeah, I could. Then I could talk

623
00:28:18,079 --> 00:28:21,079
to you and be like, you know what, he did

624
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,200
this good, he did that good, he did that bad,

625
00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:25,480
and that's why capitalize off for this with this that

626
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:26,160
X Y and Z.

627
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 3: You know, you're kind of one of the guys carrying

628
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,359
the mantle right now for Philadelphia boxing. A great boxing community,

629
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,160
been great history in Philadelphia. Uh, how is the state

630
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,799
of Philly boxing? Now? You are a champion, you know

631
00:28:40,079 --> 00:28:43,559
you got drawn boot Sennis. He's was the unified welterweight

632
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,200
champions now moved up to the junior middleweight division. But

633
00:28:46,759 --> 00:28:49,160
what's the story in your mind with the Philadelphia boxing

634
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:49,799
scene right now?

635
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,079
Speaker 4: Like it's good because then you have younger guys coming

636
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,200
up under us, like Seline Bay. He's a great amateur

637
00:28:57,319 --> 00:29:00,319
that's coming up as well. So we have some great's

638
00:29:00,319 --> 00:29:02,720
coming up under us. But I feel like right now

639
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,640
me and Boost is holding the city down for the

640
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,960
long run. And I've been doing this so far for

641
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:10,799
some years now.

642
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,039
Speaker 3: Yeah it's been it's been a while, but you're still

643
00:29:14,079 --> 00:29:15,839
a young guy though you're only thirty one years old.

644
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,680
So do you do you feel like you got years

645
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,440
left to go? Or are you looking at the exit ramp.

646
00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:24,279
Speaker 4: A little bit of booth?

647
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 3: Can you expound on that a little bit?

648
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,039
Speaker 4: We've been doing I've been looking I feel like I

649
00:29:31,079 --> 00:29:32,680
have some more years on me, and then a part

650
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,599
of me still be like I want to be done

651
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,960
with it. We've been doing this since we was kids,

652
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,920
since I was twelve and thirty one, So that's like

653
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,880
you get tired of training, making weed, You get tired,

654
00:29:44,039 --> 00:29:46,160
you get tired of all that stuff, not even just

655
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,359
the training aspect. I don't really get tired of training.

656
00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:49,279
I get tired to make a week.

657
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,559
Speaker 3: Maybe one of the reasons why someday, like you said,

658
00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:55,000
you'll be a lightweight. But first things first, you got

659
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,960
big business to do it. One hundred and thirty pounds.

660
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,799
Take care. It is against O Shocky Foster. Right. I

661
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:02,279
will just say thank you very much for your time.

662
00:30:02,319 --> 00:30:03,279
I wish you the best of luck.

663
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 4: Thank you. I like Dawhite. I like where you're going

664
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,119
in with all the Sanda look.

665
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. You got.

666
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,759
Speaker 4: A little pepper under here, though. You gotta get that too,

667
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,400
A little bit a little.

668
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,559
Speaker 3: Bit of pepler, all right, steph thank you very much, man,

669
00:30:19,599 --> 00:30:21,359
I appreciate it. See take care.

670
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:22,799
Speaker 2: All right.

671
00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: This is a very competitive championship fight, two known names.

672
00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:30,480
If you follow American boxing and the smaller weight fighters,

673
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,680
give me a follow up thought, here is its fight

674
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,640
week now for these two guys.

675
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 3: Well, I think that Stephen Fulton, I don't think anything

676
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,920
has changed other than the date of the fight. I

677
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,160
mean as far as for either him or for Foster.

678
00:30:42,519 --> 00:30:45,160
This fight had already been postponed previously, because if you

679
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,039
go back earlier in the year, it was originally going

680
00:30:47,119 --> 00:30:49,759
to be on when Tank Davis was supposed to be

681
00:30:50,119 --> 00:30:52,880
in his return, which at the time was supposed to

682
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,960
be the rematch against Lamont Roach. That did not obviously happen,

683
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,119
so this had been moved around quite a bit. In

684
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,519
any event, were able to wait it out and still

685
00:31:01,519 --> 00:31:03,400
get the fight together. I know it's a fight that Fulton,

686
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,359
as he talked about, he really wanted to have an

687
00:31:05,359 --> 00:31:08,319
opportunity to win a title in another weight class because,

688
00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:10,799
as we discussed, he's been a champion at one hundred

689
00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:13,039
and twenty two pounds, he won the title that he

690
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,119
holds presently at one hundred and twenty six pounds. This

691
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,559
is a chance to go to one hundred and thirty

692
00:31:16,759 --> 00:31:19,799
to become a three division world champion. And it wasn't

693
00:31:19,839 --> 00:31:22,279
like Foster had guys kicking down the door to fight

694
00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:24,640
in top rank. Who is this promoter does not have

695
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,400
a TV contract at the moment, so they're sort of

696
00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:29,559
happy that they're able to put this fight on a

697
00:31:29,599 --> 00:31:32,480
PBC card, still have him in a good fight, still

698
00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:34,759
have him making good money still have some exposure to

699
00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:36,880
the event, so you know, it sucks that they all

700
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,200
had to wait so long to get it on, but

701
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,960
at least it's happening. And like I said, you said,

702
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,799
even though we spoke, you know, at the end of October,

703
00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:46,400
the information, the things he talked about as far as

704
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,039
preparing for the fight and the opponent he was going

705
00:31:48,079 --> 00:31:50,039
to be facing, and the makeup of the division, all

706
00:31:50,039 --> 00:31:53,000
that sort of stuff, nothing has really changed. So I

707
00:31:53,119 --> 00:31:56,519
expect this to be perhaps not a slam bang, you know,

708
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,279
duke him out kind of fight, is just not the

709
00:31:58,319 --> 00:32:02,039
style that either of these guys fighting, but competitively, like

710
00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:04,400
there's reasons you can pick both guys to win. So

711
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,000
you know, we'll save some more of that for the

712
00:32:06,039 --> 00:32:07,599
when we get to the actual preview at the end

713
00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:09,960
of the week. But uh, it's a it's a it's

714
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,359
a high quality matchup between you know, two guys who

715
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,400
are maybe not on the pound for poundless, but two

716
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,440
really good fighters, who solid pros, two worthy fighters guys

717
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,839
who've been you know, have or have held world championships.

718
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,279
So uh, and they're two champions at the same time

719
00:32:24,279 --> 00:32:27,119
fighting each other, although you know one is in one

720
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,799
hundred and twenty six pound weight class. One is in

721
00:32:28,839 --> 00:32:31,279
the one hundred and thirty pound way class. But I'm

722
00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:33,440
interested in this fight and it's uh, you know, it

723
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,400
adds the depth to what I think is a very

724
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:36,240
good pay per view card.

725
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,759
Speaker 1: Get a lot of name recognition. People know who these

726
00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:40,920
guys are, so good stuff on that, and again I

727
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,240
plug away to the audience. They can hear from lamont

728
00:32:43,359 --> 00:32:46,880
Roach on the previous pod. We will also put these

729
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,480
up on the pod feed as separate podcast. Lamont Roach

730
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,400
interview and this interview with Steven Fulton. Also go see

731
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,400
the video of these interviews. Will put them up on

732
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,920
the YouTube page. You talking on video to both of them,

733
00:32:59,359 --> 00:33:04,000
so stand by for that coming up on the YouTube

734
00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:05,160
on the Big Fight Weekend YouTube.

735
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:05,319
Speaker 2: Pitch.

736
00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: You idt a little news before we are done. You know,

737
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:11,480
normally you like to elaborate, giving me a rundown. You

738
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:14,359
gave me like four words update on Taya Fimo Shakur.

739
00:33:14,759 --> 00:33:18,359
That's Taya Fimo Lopez and Shaquur Stevenson. All right, give

740
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,359
me the update and the fight fans the update.

741
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,839
Speaker 3: I think I was just too lazy for being brief.

742
00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine.

743
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,839
Speaker 3: You can elaborate right now on the pod Earth Shouting.

744
00:33:26,839 --> 00:33:28,640
It's just that this fight has been like the worst

745
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,519
kept secret maybe in recent boxing history. And because match

746
00:33:32,599 --> 00:33:35,559
Room Boxing had its event over the weekend with Ben

747
00:33:35,559 --> 00:33:38,599
Whitaker and Birmingham, England. When Eddie Hearn is off doing

748
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,480
his million YouTube interviews and other interviews, not only does

749
00:33:42,519 --> 00:33:45,119
he get asked questions about the event that he's there promoting,

750
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,839
but he also gets asked about other things that he's

751
00:33:47,839 --> 00:33:50,359
involved with. And I think Shaqurse Stevenson and tia Fimo

752
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,400
Lopez are at top of mind for a lot of people,

753
00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:54,880
partly because if you take a look at the social

754
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,079
media posts that the fighters have made Shakur recently, you know,

755
00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:01,400
talking about still grinding away and not taking part in Thanksgiving.

756
00:34:01,559 --> 00:34:03,240
You know, like I'm getting ready for a fight. Well, yeah,

757
00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:06,039
because you're probably Again it's not one hundred percent. They

758
00:34:06,039 --> 00:34:08,239
haven't announced it, but I would think that this week,

759
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,039
now that the holiday Thanksgiving holiday is in the in

760
00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:13,719
the rear view mirror, it's time to announce this fight,

761
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,239
and they'll announced January thirty first that Madison Square Garden

762
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,559
unless something as dramatically changed, which I don't believe it

763
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:22,079
has and we'll see the fight. One of the things

764
00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:23,440
that was interesting, you know, there was a lot of

765
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,280
conversation before Chakor's most recent fight when he had the

766
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,960
big win against Williams of Paida. Going into that fight,

767
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,840
you know, he had, you know, his contract was very

768
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,639
short term with Mattrium and his manager James Prince, had

769
00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:38,719
reached out and wanted to hire Lou de Bella on

770
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,280
their behalf to be the promoter and not stay with

771
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,679
Eddie Hern Turkey al Sheik you know, basically talked them

772
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:48,519
out of it, and he stayed with him for another fight,

773
00:34:48,599 --> 00:34:50,800
and so I guess they're doing the same thing again

774
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,760
for this upcoming fight because he was asked on Eddie

775
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,840
was in some of those YouTube interviews about the matchup

776
00:34:57,199 --> 00:34:59,000
and when asked he was going to be promoting the fight,

777
00:34:59,039 --> 00:35:01,159
he said, yes, I'm promote the fight. So you know

778
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,199
it'll be a matchroom event apparently, uh and uh, but

779
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,199
this fight will happen and it's a it's a you know,

780
00:35:06,639 --> 00:35:09,039
a big time all American matchup, and we just had

781
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,880
a fight that that a lot of people were very interest. Well,

782
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,400
we're gonna see what was the f we just saw

783
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,239
with with Uh, we're gonna see you know, Ryan Garcia

784
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,239
and Barrios probably in February. They're you know, American Mexican

785
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,480
American Mexican Americans fighting each other. You know, this is

786
00:35:25,519 --> 00:35:27,639
one of those top notch kind of fights that you

787
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,639
can make among American fighters, right, I mean, there's not

788
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,039
that many, and this is you know, talking about bringing

789
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:37,559
back you know, good quality American matchups and not having

790
00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:40,519
everything taking place in Britain or everything taking place in

791
00:35:40,559 --> 00:35:44,320
Saudi Arabia. And so that's a good thing. And so

792
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:45,840
this is this is gonna be one of those Fights's

793
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,559
gonna get a tremendous amount of hype when it happens.

794
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,239
I imagine it's gonna do a nice crowd teethema. It

795
00:35:50,639 --> 00:35:54,000
is born in Brooklyn, h Chakorus from nearby Newark, you know,

796
00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:56,199
just a hop, skip and a jump over the uh

797
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,719
the bridge from New Jersey to uh, you know, to

798
00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:02,880
the midtown Manhattan. So uh And and also it's a

799
00:36:03,079 --> 00:36:05,480
kind of fight where whoever you think is going to

800
00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:08,199
be the winner of the fight, I think whoever you

801
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,400
pick the other side, you can see having a chance

802
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,880
to win. You know, there's reasons why I can see

803
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,360
shir Court Stevenson winning this fight absolutely and by the way,

804
00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:20,360
same thing goes for the possibility of having a tia

805
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,400
Fimo Lopez win this fight. So not not in any way,

806
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,039
shape or form out of the question. And we've had

807
00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:28,039
some other you know, nice American matchups. We just had,

808
00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:31,360
for example, Hanian Norman with all American kind of fights.

809
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,480
So this is sort of like getting back to those ways.

810
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,599
And uh, you know, there's not really that many top

811
00:36:38,639 --> 00:36:42,440
toatch American fights you can make a beyond this, I mean,

812
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,239
and we just talked about like, you know, not that

813
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,400
it's on the same name level recognition, but Oshaki Foster

814
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,239
against Stephen Fulton is you know, on that kind of level.

815
00:36:50,519 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 2: Uh.

816
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,159
Speaker 3: And so this will be a pretty big event, and

817
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,559
hopefully they'll get an announced, uh you know, as soon

818
00:36:55,599 --> 00:36:57,199
as possible, because I don't know what they're waiting on.

819
00:36:57,679 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 1: All right, stay tuned, but maybe late January, probably in

820
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:07,639
New York. Yeah, Zerto Ramirez now looks like he will return.

821
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,719
We talked about this with David Benavitez. Benavidez announced in

822
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,039
the ring in Saudi Arabia. That's what we're doing. Sinko

823
00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:17,639
Demayo weekend You've done some follow up reporting about this,

824
00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:21,039
so it looks like that's what's happening in May cruiserweight

825
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,920
unified title fight. Zerto off of shoulder surgery to fight Benavidez.

826
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: Moving up.

827
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, ji Opataiah, who's in action, coming up soon here

828
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,039
he and his camp none too, please exactly upon this,

829
00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:37,400
upon this revelation go ahead.

830
00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:42,039
Speaker 3: Well, so, as we've discussed the Zerto fight against Benavitez,

831
00:37:42,039 --> 00:37:44,639
that is a sign deal done for May second, with

832
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,320
the caveat of course that come January sixteenth, you're gonna

833
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,960
have Zerdo Ramirez coming off of that shoulder surgery that

834
00:37:51,039 --> 00:37:54,199
your referenced, having a comeback just to make sure everything

835
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,199
is sound with the shoulder. He's gonna fight on one

836
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,800
of the Golden Boys, his own cards. He's taken on robins.

837
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,800
This has not been officially announced so far. As the

838
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,199
nineteen to zero Swedish fighter who fights out of Las Vegas,

839
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,679
who if you've heard of him, you probably know him

840
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:13,400
because he ended uh Sergei Kovalev pretty much like Covilev.

841
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,159
Took one more fight after that and then retired, but

842
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,280
that was his big win was against the aging and

843
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,480
not as good as he once was Sergey Kovalev. So

844
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,719
they all feel like this is a win for Zerto

845
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,280
and then I'll move on to that other fight. But

846
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,719
the point here is that the fight that so many

847
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,239
people had been talking about before the Benavidas fight came

848
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,039
into the picture was to see the three belt unification

849
00:38:33,079 --> 00:38:35,239
between Zerdo and Opataia. And if you go and you

850
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,760
look at post fight interviews from their fights, in each

851
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,159
of their like most at least their last two fights,

852
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,480
they were calling each other out. I mean, for example,

853
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,519
when when Zerdo unified the belts against BILLM. Smith in

854
00:38:47,519 --> 00:38:50,000
Saudi Arabia, right after the fight, he kept talking about

855
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:52,960
wanting to fight Opataia. When Omataia scored a big knockout

856
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,800
against Squeo and in his last fight, you know, he

857
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,039
was talking about how he wanted to take care of

858
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,159
I'd rather take care of Ramirez. Let's get this, let's

859
00:39:01,199 --> 00:39:04,119
get this unification on stop running because he wants to

860
00:39:04,199 --> 00:39:07,400
unified titles really bad. He's already the lineal champion, he

861
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,480
has the ring title, he has the IBF title, but

862
00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:12,119
he wants some more of the belts. And so when

863
00:39:12,199 --> 00:39:16,440
when this was announced, you know, uh, Zerdoormirez came out

864
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,880
and talked about how, you know, he liked this all

865
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,320
Mexican war with Benavides and it's going to be a

866
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,760
big deal and going to be a big hyped up crowd,

867
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,960
and you know, it's the kind of fight that excites him,

868
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,360
even though he would sure like to further unify. But

869
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,719
he was mocking Opa Tile like that he was stalking

870
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,880
him like I'm an ex girlfriend, like he was made

871
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,280
you know, he made some notes about you know, he's

872
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,000
talking about how you know, he says he called my phone.

873
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,039
You know, it reminds me of my ex girlfriends. Like

874
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:42,599
he was really giving him the business. And uh. And

875
00:39:42,639 --> 00:39:45,199
the OPA Tie camp is like if they're enraged by this,

876
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,119
because it's a fact that Golden Boy, which is the

877
00:39:48,119 --> 00:39:51,840
promoter for Zero, and the Opa Tie people, they've had conversations.

878
00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:54,079
This is a fight that Turkey al Chic talked about

879
00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:57,079
having interest in. Whether that interest has waned, I don't know,

880
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,199
but the point was they were talking about getting this

881
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,599
fight done once he was back from the injury. And

882
00:40:02,639 --> 00:40:06,199
everybody knows that there was a mandatory that was due.

883
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,119
Zero did his mandatory in June. That was the fight

884
00:40:09,159 --> 00:40:11,840
where he suffered the injury when he defeated Dordikos, and

885
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,440
now you have Opataia has got the upcoming fight on

886
00:40:14,559 --> 00:40:19,199
December sixth against Sinkara his mandatory and that the thought was, okay,

887
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,960
after that's over, then we're going to make the fight.

888
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,480
But when they made the match with him in Benevide's,

889
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,480
the Opataia camp kind of freaked out and they both

890
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,119
had a lot to say about him and his promoter

891
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,119
from Australia, you know, from Tasman Fighters. They just you know,

892
00:40:32,159 --> 00:40:34,199
Mick Francis. They just went off on him. And so

893
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,400
the battle between them just continues outside the ring. Will

894
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,679
it lead to them eventually fighting for bigger stakes in

895
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,599
the cruiserweight division? Hopefully if Opataiah goes the business. He

896
00:40:45,679 --> 00:40:50,199
said of David's and and and Zero do their business.

897
00:40:50,199 --> 00:40:51,679
And should Zero win the fight.

898
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: Let me be very profound here on a Sunday night.

899
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,960
You love this stripping with sarcasm. On a scale of

900
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,480
one to ten, Opataiah versus Zerdo in the United States

901
00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:07,320
is about a three or of four. Opataiah has name

902
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,400
recognition worldwide, is font and sli Rabe whatever. He's not

903
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,159
that enormous a deal in the United States. Bena Vetez

904
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,920
is a big deal to fight in Las Vegas. Zerto's

905
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,239
got a California fan base. My man Rayphael loves to

906
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,719
say commercially viable. That fight is about an eight on

907
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,320
the commercial. I won't give it a nine or ten.

908
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,760
It's about an eight. So you go where the money is, obviously,

909
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,440
and that's why they're going to do that fight first.

910
00:41:31,679 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 3: Well, I totally understand that. I'm not even arguing with you, but.

911
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,599
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you are there.

912
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: Opataia's people can rant all they want, but the bigger

913
00:41:39,039 --> 00:41:41,840
fight for Zerto after he does this thing in June

914
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:43,880
is to fight Benavide.

915
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 3: I guess the missing part of this discussion is we're

916
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,280
not sure what happened to the interest that Turkey Alchik

917
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,440
had in the fight, because he did mention it, and

918
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,239
whether they pulled back a little bit on it or

919
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,719
the timing was a writer. They don't have another event

920
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,239
scheduled at a time where it was conducive to do

921
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,320
that particular match. I don't know the answers. All that

922
00:42:02,639 --> 00:42:05,400
I know as a fan putting, you know, whatever the

923
00:42:05,559 --> 00:42:08,320
dollar figures are and all that I'm very interested in

924
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,480
the Opataia against Zero fight, but I'm also very interested

925
00:42:11,519 --> 00:42:16,800
to see Zero against Benavidez. They're both good matchups from

926
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,800
an excitement standpoint in the United States. Obviously, Denavide's against

927
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,280
Serto is bigger because you put a big, all Mexican

928
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,199
kind of fight like that, you PLoP it down in

929
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,559
Las Vegas on the single to my holiday. Yeah, we're

930
00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:29,719
gonna have some razzle dazzle and some excitement going on.

931
00:42:30,159 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 2: We agree all One more note.

932
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: Kazuto Ioka Kasioka four division world champ, has been saying

933
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,400
he's gonna move up to bantamway. We've now learned that

934
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,440
that is going to happen at the end of this month.

935
00:42:42,599 --> 00:42:45,039
Explain a little more in detail. He's seeking a fifth

936
00:42:45,079 --> 00:42:47,960
world title in a different weight class here, what about

937
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,599
Ioka at one eighteen?

938
00:42:50,599 --> 00:42:52,639
Speaker 3: So he he and i in a way are the

939
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,719
unless I'm forgetting somebody. To my knowledge, they're the only

940
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,760
two Japanese boxers to win world titles in four weight

941
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,480
clas now. He did lose to Puma Martinez in the

942
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,159
in their back to back Junior bandamweight title fights, one

943
00:43:07,199 --> 00:43:09,679
of which was a unification the rematch was only for

944
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the one of the belts because of the IBF doing

945
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IBF things and Bernando Martinez vacated before. Ultimately he lost

946
00:43:16,119 --> 00:43:19,960
last week to Bam Rodriguez. In any event, Ioka announced

947
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after that loss in the second fight that he was

948
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not retiring that he was going to move up to

949
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the bantamweight division to look for another world title to

950
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try to get that they try to get that fifth title.

951
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,199
Now that fight, as you mentioned, is now said, so

952
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he is coming back. He is going to fight in

953
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a WBA title eliminator against a Venezuelan fighter named Mikael Ordsgati.

954
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It will take place on Djang on December thirty first,

955
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on New Year's Eve, which is a for those who

956
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don't know or have never thought about, this a very

957
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,320
traditional time for a big boxing event in Japan, sort

958
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,519
of the same way we see a big fight in

959
00:43:54,519 --> 00:43:57,920
the United States on Single Demayo or that Mexican Independence

960
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,119
Date weekend, where we've seen him take place on on

961
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the traditional that the weekend in June and New York

962
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on the Puerto Rican Day, Prairie weekend. You know certain day,

963
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certain weekends or times where it's popular. The thing that

964
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blows my mind about Ioka, who is to me a

965
00:44:11,519 --> 00:44:15,119
borderline Hall of Famer, is that he's not just having

966
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:19,159
just another fight on on Januar, on December thirty first, TJ.

967
00:44:19,679 --> 00:44:22,360
This is going to be Now he's in his sixteenth

968
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year as a professional boxer. This will be his thirteenth

969
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,800
time fighting on December thirty first, and there's one other fight,

970
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a fourteenth fight where he fought on December twenty ninth,

971
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which is you know they make they usually have that week.

972
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Speaker 2: Loves that time, loves that time frame.

973
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 3: That's crazy. You're talking about Canelo like owning Cinco de

974
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,559
Maya or back in his day, you know, Oscar de

975
00:44:44,639 --> 00:44:48,039
la Hooia owning Sinco de Maya or whatever. Ioka, you know,

976
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owns the New Year's hellity in Japan. So he's going

977
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to tee it up with this Venezuelan challenger to try

978
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to become the mandatory challenger in the WBA, and we'll see. Now,

979
00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:02,559
the thing that's interesting about the matchup is if he wins,

980
00:45:03,159 --> 00:45:06,360
he becomes the mandatory for the win. Now, the WBA

981
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,280
champion is Shudsumi. He has a title fight that is

982
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,679
scheduled against the interim title no Nito don Air. They

983
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are fighting also in the month of December December seventeenth,

984
00:45:16,199 --> 00:45:19,280
So theoretically, if you know, the winner of the December

985
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,760
thirty first fight would become the mandatory for the winner

986
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of the December seventeenth fight. But in Japan, the bigger

987
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,400
talk of in boxing is not so much if Ioka

988
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is the winner to go for the WBA belt. It's

989
00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:32,679
for him to match up with Takuma in away who

990
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,440
just recently won the WBC title. And if you follow

991
00:45:35,519 --> 00:45:39,360
the politics of Japanese boxing, one of the reasons why

992
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,559
for a long time that was seen as not makeable

993
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,840
was because similar to what we see here in America

994
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,079
sometimes is they were fighting on separate platforms on different

995
00:45:47,079 --> 00:45:49,880
streaming services. But Ioka is moving to a new streaming

996
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,039
service for this upcoming fight, which happens to be the

997
00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:55,280
same one that is shared by in a way, and

998
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,400
so it would be more conducive for him too if

999
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,360
he wins to challenge Takuma in a way for that

1000
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,159
title not go in the WBA direction. And the scuttle

1001
00:46:03,159 --> 00:46:05,519
butt out of Japan is if that fight gets made,

1002
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,800
it could wind up as like an undercard fighter, a

1003
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,400
co feature when there's a very strong possibility if everything

1004
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,800
breaks the right way with wins coming up on the

1005
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,760
undercart of a potential in a way meaning Noya in

1006
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,480
a way against your boy Janto Nakatani next, that would

1007
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:21,719
be a mega cart in Japan.

1008
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,079
Speaker 1: All right, But again Ioka moves up at the end

1009
00:46:25,079 --> 00:46:27,760
of the month to ban them weight. All right, good

1010
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,840
stuff here off the weekend to get us rolling in

1011
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,199
the month of December. It is fight week for this

1012
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Pitbull Lamont Roach main event PBC on Prime pay per View. Again,

1013
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,679
you'll hear from You've already heard from Lamont Roach on

1014
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,719
the pod feed. You can go find the video of

1015
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,199
that interview upcoming on the Big Fight Weekend YouTube page.

1016
00:46:47,519 --> 00:46:50,719
You heard from Stephen Fulton on this podcast fighting Oshaki

1017
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,360
Foster on the undercard of that. We look forward to

1018
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,119
that fight week. Other than that, I think we're good

1019
00:46:56,119 --> 00:46:57,480
off the Thanksgiving.

1020
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Speaker 3: Week any else Japanese bannam weights and British head What

1021
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:01,440
a show we did.

1022
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Speaker 1: We spanned the globe like wide world of sports and

1023
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gave you a bunch and I know fans are appreciate this.

1024
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,119
I talked to a couple of more people that communicated

1025
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with me socially, etc. They're like, we love the fact

1026
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that you guys are still going going, preview into the weekend,

1027
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recap off the weekend. The peeps and the savages are

1028
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out there. Show us some love, rate us and review us.

1029
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Spread the word that helps in the algorithm, share it socially.

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Speaker 2: That all helps.

1031
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: Dan and I keep putting the work in here, my friend,

1032
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,840
have a good week. We're ready to rock on and

1033
00:47:32,119 --> 00:47:36,400
later in the week preview this upcoming show in San Antonio, Texas.

1034
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Speaker 2: More on that later in the week. Big Dan Rayfield,

1035
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thank you.

1036
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Speaker 3: Give bet TJ.

1037
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Speaker 2: There is Dan Rayfield. I'm merely TJ Reeves.

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Speaker 1: Applespreaker, Spotify is where you can find this all the

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podcasting outlets you've been listening to the Fight Preach to

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