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<v Speaker 1>It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Nine day, Holy crap, I don't know who the hell

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<v Speaker 2>we think when we are get off our show, idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>The kids are playing to tail off. The countries are

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<v Speaker 3>Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold Play Inner Murals.

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<v Speaker 2>They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding me? Now? Here's Nick Coffee?

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Happy Tuesday, So you welcome in Coffee and Company,

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<v Speaker 4>Fueled by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety Nick Coffee,

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<v Speaker 4>Austin Montgomery taking you up until six o'clock. As mentioned

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<v Speaker 4>on a Tuesday after an it kind of feels like

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<v Speaker 4>evening because it's been gloomy, kind of dark outside. I know,

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<v Speaker 4>we got another batch of storms coming in this evening.

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<v Speaker 4>So we'll let you know if in fact there's any real,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, news that you need to be aware of.

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<v Speaker 4>I doubt that you typically would think, hey, we need

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<v Speaker 4>to listen to Nick and Austin on Coffee and Company

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<v Speaker 4>to keep us safe from storms, but hey, we might

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<v Speaker 4>as well utilize the platform for something positive here, right,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the rest of it's probably going to be nonsense.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, we'll have some fun, hopefully you'll have some

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<v Speaker 4>fun with us along the way. But as far as

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<v Speaker 4>how productive we are over these next few hours, we'll

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<v Speaker 4>have to wait and see. But given that we had

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<v Speaker 4>such a devastating storm that is killed twenty people roughly,

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<v Speaker 4>I think the debt total is still at nineteen as

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<v Speaker 4>of earlier this morning Governor Basher's latest updates. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be nasty, but again, hopefully it's not anything

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<v Speaker 4>close to what we had just just before, four or

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<v Speaker 4>five days ago, whatever it was. And I'll see the

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<v Speaker 4>devastation in the London area in Laurel County. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>there's houses, really just a section of a neighborhood that

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<v Speaker 4>looks completely i mean completely demolished, where there's really no

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's just completely demolished. If you've seen it,

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<v Speaker 4>you know exactly what I'm talking about. But there are

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<v Speaker 4>other areas, I'm sure where maybe they just had some

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<v Speaker 4>roof damage, or maybe they had their roof ripped off,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're still trying to salvage whatever they can of

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<v Speaker 4>what's left of their home. And I know, it's been

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<v Speaker 4>a big push to get tarps and whatnot out there

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<v Speaker 4>because they're trying to cover up. I mean, it's the

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<v Speaker 4>area that just got hit really bad. I mean it

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<v Speaker 4>sounds like they're going to get it again, which is terrible.

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<v Speaker 4>Hopefully nothing close to what we saw at the end

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<v Speaker 4>of last week, though. Rd If you guys want to

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<v Speaker 4>take us with you wherever you go you can. You

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<v Speaker 4>can listen live on the Aheart Radio. I've also listened

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<v Speaker 4>live at seven ninety Louisville dot com. We'll let you

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<v Speaker 4>know how you can be a part of the show

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<v Speaker 4>and contribute here in just a moment. But I do

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<v Speaker 4>want to start with what I think is some pretty

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<v Speaker 4>substantial news when it comes to the future of college athletics,

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<v Speaker 4>and it is getting a lot of attention. But obviously

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<v Speaker 4>there's not as much interesting as much interest in college

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<v Speaker 4>sports nationally as there is in certain markets like this

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<v Speaker 4>where you know our college teams here Louisville, Kentucky. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>they're basically the pro teams. But it's been such a

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<v Speaker 4>I guess, a big question mark when it comes to

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<v Speaker 4>the future of college sports with the insanely different landscape

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<v Speaker 4>that we've had in the last four to five years

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<v Speaker 4>with the portal and nil and they're really being no control.

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<v Speaker 4>You hear people say things like, well, it's the wild

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<v Speaker 4>wild West, and it pretty much is and all of

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<v Speaker 4>this and we don't need to get into it. As

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<v Speaker 4>far as just how we got here, I think we've

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<v Speaker 4>touched on that enough in the last few years. But

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<v Speaker 4>it really comes down to the UNSTABLA just trying to

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<v Speaker 4>maintain their archaic amateurism model and never realizing that that

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<v Speaker 4>was not sustainable, never realizing that, you know, that's not

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<v Speaker 4>something that they can expect to be the way things

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<v Speaker 4>are for the rest of time. As society evolves and

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<v Speaker 4>of sense for there to be so much money made

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<v Speaker 4>off college athletics and these guys don't get These guys

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<v Speaker 4>and gals I should say, they don't get paid for

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<v Speaker 4>performing and they really don't even get a share of

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<v Speaker 4>the revenue. Well that's how we ended up here in

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<v Speaker 4>the grand scheme of things. But this House bill settlement

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<v Speaker 4>that's been out there for how long now, it's been

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<v Speaker 4>pretty much a weekly thing as far as looking for

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<v Speaker 4>updates to see, okay, how far have they gotten on this,

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<v Speaker 4>and a lot of people understandably so wouldn't really want

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<v Speaker 4>to know nerd out and look at what really is

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<v Speaker 4>the same way, but I feel like, considering that it's

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<v Speaker 4>such an important thing when it comes to the future

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<v Speaker 4>of college sports, I mean, I'm interested. I want to

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<v Speaker 4>know what's going to happen, and each update we've got

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like in the last couple of months is

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<v Speaker 4>there's always one little hold up that has kept them

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<v Speaker 4>from fully saying, Okay, here's what we're doing, this is it,

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<v Speaker 4>it's final. Here are the rules, Here are the guardrails.

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<v Speaker 4>Here are the list of things that programs need to

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<v Speaker 4>be aware of as far as doing everything by the book,

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<v Speaker 4>not breaking the rules. And I don't say this to exaggerate.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't say this for effect. I think there's been

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<v Speaker 4>some times here recently in the last couple of years

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<v Speaker 4>where you don't really know what the rules are. And

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<v Speaker 4>I don't mean like fans who follow it, I mean programs,

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<v Speaker 4>head coaches. Because it seems as if you do something

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<v Speaker 4>that might be against NCAA bylaws, you hire a lawyer,

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<v Speaker 4>you take the nc DOUBLEA to court, and more often

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<v Speaker 4>than not they've been losing, and that was going to

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<v Speaker 4>be something that probably was never going to go away.

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<v Speaker 4>Schools realizing well, we get it. This rules in place

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<v Speaker 4>because you need to have some level of enforcement, you

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<v Speaker 4>need to have some level of guidelines that everybody has

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<v Speaker 4>to follow to make things equal, make things fair. But

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<v Speaker 4>there's always a lawyer that can maybe find a loophole

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<v Speaker 4>and try to stick to the NCUBA, because to be fair,

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<v Speaker 4>the NABA, even if they are trying to get things

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<v Speaker 4>in order, trying to regulate college sports to where it's

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<v Speaker 4>not such a free for all, there's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>certain things that they try to put in place for

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<v Speaker 4>good reason, but technically a judge may say you're not

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<v Speaker 4>allowed to do that. That's really been their biggest battle

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<v Speaker 4>in the last couple of years is even when they

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<v Speaker 4>are trying to not necessarily just roll with an iron

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<v Speaker 4>fist and nitpick and keep programs and student athletes from

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<v Speaker 4>doing certain things that you know, even when they're trying

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<v Speaker 4>to do what we want them to do, they run

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<v Speaker 4>into issues with a judge telling them, hey, you're not

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<v Speaker 4>actually allowed to do that, and that really puts them

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<v Speaker 4>in a tough spot. So I guess I'll start with

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<v Speaker 4>the big news that has been confirmed by Front Office Sports.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Ross Dellinger is the one who I saw

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<v Speaker 4>that put this out there first last night, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>pretty much been confirmed that the Power Conferences are now

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<v Speaker 4>in charge of enforcing amateurism the NS double A will

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<v Speaker 4>seed enforcement, meaning they're no longer claiming they are responsible

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<v Speaker 4>to determine who and who is not technically eligible, don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I have no clue how they're going to

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<v Speaker 4>work it all out, because again, what's happened, and I

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<v Speaker 4>guess I'll buy it started with last night where Ross

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<v Speaker 4>Ellingrew broke a pretty big story that the Power Conferences,

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<v Speaker 4>meaning the SEC, the Big Ten, the Big twelve, and

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<v Speaker 4>the ACC are putting together and I guess they've been

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<v Speaker 4>working on this for a while. They've drafted a contract

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<v Speaker 4>that would bind schools to new enforcement rules and require

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<v Speaker 4>them to waive the right to sue over decisions. And

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<v Speaker 4>what it sounds like is Tennessee recently filed some Let

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<v Speaker 4>me make sure I've got my info correct here, because

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<v Speaker 4>going back to what I said a moment ago, anytime

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<v Speaker 4>you take steps towards figuring out okay, here are going

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<v Speaker 4>to be the this is the guidelines. This is now

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<v Speaker 4>the rule or the rules I should say that everybody

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<v Speaker 4>has to follow. Yet you find some type of loophole

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<v Speaker 4>to where somebody hired a lawyer and they're going to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to sue in order to get around following rules,

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<v Speaker 4>which again is an issue that makes the NC DOUBLEA,

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<v Speaker 4>to be honest with you, pretty pretty helpless. So this

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<v Speaker 4>document that they put together that I guess has now

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<v Speaker 4>been stamped for approval, so much so that the NC

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<v Speaker 4>DOUBLEA Charlie Baker, who again is now the new Mark Emmert,

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<v Speaker 4>he is now claiming, yes, they are now in charge.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't have the resources. So what this does is

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<v Speaker 4>this is and I'm reading here directly from Ross Dellinger

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<v Speaker 4>of Yahoo Sports. The document, described as affiliation or membership

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<v Speaker 4>Agreement isn't final, but a draft of the contract has

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<v Speaker 4>been distributed to dozens of school presidents, general counsels, and ads,

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<v Speaker 4>some of whom pushed back against some of the concepts

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<v Speaker 4>which are now being refined. The document is basically you

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<v Speaker 4>signing over, you signing off on saying that all seventy

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<v Speaker 4>plus Power Conference schools, if of course you sign off

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<v Speaker 4>as well as others if they opt into this agreement.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a way to bind everybody together into a group

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<v Speaker 4>to provide stability around the enforcement of rules, including the

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<v Speaker 4>NIL Clearinghouse LBI caps. So there's a new it was

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<v Speaker 4>a new Tennessee state in IL law that came out

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<v Speaker 4>this agreement is necessary to have stability and regulation in

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<v Speaker 4>the rev Share era. So never say, I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 4>tough to know if this wouldn't shock me in any way,

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<v Speaker 4>if by the end of the show today there's some

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<v Speaker 4>kind of a pushback and this won't happen because you

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<v Speaker 4>have what you're relying on. For there to be clear guidelines,

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<v Speaker 4>rules that everybody has to follow, you need like everybody

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<v Speaker 4>to agree and be on the same page. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>really hard to do with a lot of things. It's

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<v Speaker 4>even harder to do when it comes to these schools,

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<v Speaker 4>these universities coming together to a agree on something, yet

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<v Speaker 4>they're always competing and what eighty percent of these schools

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<v Speaker 4>might agree on, maybe there's twenty percent that say, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>agreeing to that will put us at a disadvantage. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>it's really tough to envision everybody being one thousand percent

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<v Speaker 4>on the same page. But it sounds like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it sounds like they're getting close. So I mean this,

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<v Speaker 4>this would be huge, and this would make it to

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<v Speaker 4>where you sign off claiming that you are you are,

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<v Speaker 4>you are agreeing to follow these guidelines and if you

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<v Speaker 4>do and you break said rules, or maybe if you

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<v Speaker 4>don't even agree to sign it, you can be kicked

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<v Speaker 4>out of your conference. That's the one thing that Trust me,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm far from a legal expert, but I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>how you could come to a school and say, if

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<v Speaker 4>you don't agree to sign this, then we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>really know how you'd be able to do that. But again,

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<v Speaker 4>what do I know? So I'm kind of excited about

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<v Speaker 4>this because it does give us some I mean, it

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<v Speaker 4>gives if this works out, this will give us a

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<v Speaker 4>much more I guess, less hectic version of college sports

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<v Speaker 4>to where you really just have no clue what's allowed,

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<v Speaker 4>what's not, what's going on. And I think for us,

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<v Speaker 4>we're still going to care, we're still going to be

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<v Speaker 4>for the foreseeable future, there needs to be some level

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<v Speaker 4>the Big Ten, the SEC, the Big twelve, and the

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<v Speaker 4>to follow new enforcement rules and would keep these schools

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<v Speaker 4>get in trouble, you can't go file a lawsuit. You

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<v Speaker 4>can't you know, you can't get to get your attorney

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<v Speaker 4>some way. So this is if this works out. Where

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<v Speaker 4>this is great is that you no longer have to

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<v Speaker 4>whatever we want and if the NCUBA tells us we can't,

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<v Speaker 4>sue the nc DOUBLEA and not had success. We learned

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<v Speaker 4>just claim that they have eligibility left and nobody knows

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<v Speaker 4>where it comes from, they actually did not have success

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<v Speaker 4>in court. We learned that last week and that's not

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<v Speaker 4>a surprise. Although it is seems like a rare thing

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<v Speaker 4>for the NCUABLEA to have success in the court room.

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<v Speaker 4>That doesn't seem like it's happened in a long time.

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<v Speaker 4>But any recent lawsuit that has been I think out

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<v Speaker 4>there as a story when it comes to a school

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<v Speaker 4>and fighting the n C double A. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>NC double A has lost a lot of them, and

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<v Speaker 4>This would change all that to where all these schools

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<v Speaker 4>are agreeing enough is enough. It's way too chaotic. Nobody

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<v Speaker 4>really knows what the rules are, and if you do,

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<v Speaker 4>If everybody agrees to this, which again I think that's

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<v Speaker 4>easier said than done, that would make it to where

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you've you've signed off saying that if you do,

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<v Speaker 4>in fact break rules and don't follow them, you'll suffer

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<v Speaker 4>that's huge news. But I don't know, maybe it's just me,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe I'm maybe I'm more interested in this stuff than others.

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<v Speaker 4>But and it's not like it's really that interesting, like

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<v Speaker 4>of us care a lot about. And the n C

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<v Speaker 4>double A, I mean that that alone, just just reading

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<v Speaker 4>power conferences. And I guess Charlie Baker is looking at

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<v Speaker 4>this as a situation where he realizes they are they're powerless,

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<v Speaker 4>conferences work together to say, Okay, everybody's going to have

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<v Speaker 4>and you're in or you're out, meaning you sign off

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<v Speaker 4>and we all follow these rules. We don't hire lawyers

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<v Speaker 4>and fight it in court or we you know, or

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<v Speaker 4>you're out, which I don't really know how they could

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<v Speaker 4>do that, but I think that would be because again,

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<v Speaker 4>if you are someone willing to I guess, be against

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<v Speaker 4>longer being able to, like if you're if you're one

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<v Speaker 4>of these schools in the Big twelve, Big ten sec ACC,

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<v Speaker 4>if you if you felt that there was fear that

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<v Speaker 4>would really make it to where your athletics department would

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<v Speaker 4>grant of rights. So anyways, we'll keep you updated that

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<v Speaker 4>that's been developing throughout the afternoon. Again the Front Office

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<v Speaker 4>Sports story as far as as the NCAA, I guess

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<v Speaker 4>confirming the report from Dellinger that yeah, we're we're we're

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<v Speaker 4>going to. I mean that that just came out within

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<v Speaker 4>if there's more info that comes from that along the way. Today,

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of other things we'll get into and as

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<v Speaker 4>We've got this week and then next week before I

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<v Speaker 4>eight forty whas which I woke up this morning at

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<v Speaker 4>three forty five, just randomly, and I got up use

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<v Speaker 4>the restroom. I went and got something to drink, and

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<v Speaker 4>I realized starting June, in June, I'll be like I

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<v Speaker 4>will have already had to have been up for probably

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<v Speaker 4>twenty thirty minutes, which is a really it was a

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<v Speaker 4>pretty scary thing to think about. But you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sure I'll Here's what I'm hopeful for, Austin, is that

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<v Speaker 4>I'll I'll adjust, But I don't know if it ever

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<v Speaker 4>gets easy, right, I'll get used to it. But I

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<v Speaker 4>just I don't think there's a scenario where I just

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<v Speaker 4>wake up automatically ready to start the day at three

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<v Speaker 4>point fifteen in the morning. Yeah, just I mean, that's impossible.

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<v Speaker 3>I think kind of makes you feel more appreciative of

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<v Speaker 3>how mister Kruz does it and now just the company man.

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<v Speaker 4>Company man's been doing it for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>I see he's got a newborn baby. My heart goes

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<v Speaker 3>out to him for being able to do that. But

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<v Speaker 3>maybe him and his wife have made it work. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he doesn't. He does a good job of not like

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<v Speaker 3>of leaving everything at home kind of like at the

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<v Speaker 3>door unless she's just kind of tell you about like

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<v Speaker 3>what's going on with like his family, but you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>be able to tell you, like if he's stressed or

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<v Speaker 3>not outside of work, because he's a company man. He's

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<v Speaker 3>a true pros he's the he's earned the title.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I can see and I'm not speaking for

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<v Speaker 4>him at all, so trust me, if you know, John,

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<v Speaker 4>we're just we're just remove him from the conversation because

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sharing something that he's shared with me, because I

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<v Speaker 4>don't bring any of that stuff up and I talk

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<v Speaker 4>to him because I just feel like, hey, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to over you know, I just leave him be

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<v Speaker 4>because I just imagine the early wake up call, the

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<v Speaker 4>early wake up calls that he has. But also like

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<v Speaker 4>sleep before he has to get up at three thirty

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<v Speaker 4>in the morning because he's got an infantite home. But

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<v Speaker 4>like I know, whenever, whenever we had our first I

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<v Speaker 4>was eager to get back to work. Like I was,

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<v Speaker 4>I was to the point where I needed to get

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<v Speaker 4>out of the house. And it was nice to kind of,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, just just not not like I was running

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<v Speaker 4>away from my responsibility of you know, taking care of

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<v Speaker 4>a human being who I you know, brought into this

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<v Speaker 4>world with my lovely wife, but just you know, some

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<v Speaker 4>time to yourself, and even if that's work, it does

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<v Speaker 4>kind of just get you away to you know, know,

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<v Speaker 4>right to breathe a little bit. It probably sounded bad

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<v Speaker 4>if you if you know you've never been in that situation,

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<v Speaker 4>but I think it's not like to go get some milk. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>And also it was great, like as much of it,

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<v Speaker 4>as much as it was a challenge for for my

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<v Speaker 4>wife and I'm sure a lot of other wives to

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<v Speaker 4>have to go back to work for the first time

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<v Speaker 4>after you've had your first kid, because you've got the

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<v Speaker 4>postpartum and you know, you're you've probably been attached to

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<v Speaker 4>your infant nearly every second of the day until that

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<v Speaker 4>day happens whenever you have to go back to work

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<v Speaker 4>and your maternity leaves over. But it's also good for

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<v Speaker 4>you and I I mean, I know for my wife

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<v Speaker 4>it was hard at first, but in the end of acting,

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<v Speaker 4>when once you find that balance, it's it's you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it all works out. But yeah, I'll be up early

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<v Speaker 4>starting in June. And again I'm not I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 4>it's ever gonna be easy, but over time, I suppose

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<v Speaker 4>I'll get I'll get used to it, and uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>looking forward to it, but also gonna you know, gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be sad to move on from seven to ninety. But

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<v Speaker 4>we'll make the most of the time we have left,

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<v Speaker 4>that's for sure, all right, coming up what I want

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<v Speaker 4>to get to. On the other side, we talked yesterday

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<v Speaker 4>about a new addition to the Louisville roster, somebody we'd

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<v Speaker 4>never heard of, Mohammed Kamara, who is from the NBA

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<v Speaker 4>Academy Africa. I'll admit, and I talked about this yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know anything about him. I just know that

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<v Speaker 4>he committed to Louisville yesterday, and that's the first time

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<v Speaker 4>I've heard of him. There's not the exact same situation

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<v Speaker 4>going on in Lexington, but there is a you know,

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<v Speaker 4>top thirty five ish recruit that is going to announce

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<v Speaker 4>his college decision, I believe this evening, and he's considering

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<v Speaker 4>Kentucky among some other schools. I won't lie and act

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<v Speaker 4>like I know a whole lot about like his recruitment

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<v Speaker 4>and where he's going to go, But this, to me,

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<v Speaker 4>I think will be a similar situation of what happened

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<v Speaker 4>with Louisville, to where you just kind of ended up

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<v Speaker 4>with somebody you'd never really heard about or knew much

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<v Speaker 4>about that ends up taking one of your final roster spots.

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<v Speaker 4>And I just think that's going to maybe be a

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<v Speaker 4>new norm moving forward, because there's a lot of moves.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really a game of musical chairs when you're building

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<v Speaker 4>your roster in the off season right now with the portal,

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<v Speaker 4>with you know, the high school recruits and guys that

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<v Speaker 4>you know you're hope and come back, and then you'

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<v Speaker 4>got guys that maybe are testing the NBA process and

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<v Speaker 4>then you think they're gonna come back but they don't,

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<v Speaker 4>so you may end up with, Okay, here we are,

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<v Speaker 4>the dust is settled. We still have a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>scholarships available. You know, let's kind of start start from scratch,

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<v Speaker 4>almost and see what's out there and see what we

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<v Speaker 4>can go at. I don't know if that's what happened

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<v Speaker 4>with tomorrow yesterday who committed, but I just think it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be a new world. It already is a

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<v Speaker 4>new world as far as how you build your roster

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<v Speaker 4>every year in college basketball. And I think if Kentucky

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<v Speaker 4>gets a commitment tonight, it'll be another sign that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>just expect that maybe when you get down to late May,

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<v Speaker 4>early June and there's one, maybe two spots left, you

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<v Speaker 4>know they're gonna try to use that. I think leaving

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<v Speaker 4>scholarships open is just a waste, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>coaches will be wise to do that moving forward, because

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<v Speaker 4>even if you if you use a scholarship on a

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<v Speaker 4>a good scholarship to use because the kid can't play,

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<v Speaker 4>one or two things will happen. He'll read the room

418
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<v Speaker 4>and leave, and you'll have that scholarship back the next year,

419
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<v Speaker 4>or you can let them know, Hey, it didn't work out,

420
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<v Speaker 4>and we think that you know, it'll be best for

421
00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:04.400
<v Speaker 4>you to move on because it didn't work out. So

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<v Speaker 4>also we're gonna be talking coming up here three forty

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<v Speaker 4>five with doctor Eric maclrot Prora have physical therapy. Looking

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<v Speaker 4>forward to catching up with him. So we've got a

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<v Speaker 4>lot from now up until six. So hang out with us,

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<v Speaker 4>take us with you wherever you go. You can listen

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<v Speaker 4>live on the AHET Radio app. Listen live at seven

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<v Speaker 4>ninety Louisville dot com. It is coffee and Company fueled

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<v Speaker 4>by Thornton's right here on Sports Talks seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's on

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437
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<v Speaker 4>I mean that alone is enough incentive for you to

438
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<v Speaker 4>become a member, But there's also some other great things

439
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<v Speaker 4>to come with it, including the special savings you can get.

440
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<v Speaker 4>For example, the Monster Intagy drinks that I get, you

441
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<v Speaker 4>can get three of them for seven bucks, which again

442
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<v Speaker 4>that's a good deal. That's a really good deal. But

443
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<v Speaker 4>that's not the only thing. There's the frequency, meaning there's

444
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<v Speaker 4>certain items that they put in the club and if

445
00:22:03.440 --> 00:22:05.319
<v Speaker 4>you purchase him a certain amount of times depending on

446
00:22:05.359 --> 00:22:07.559
<v Speaker 4>what the item is. You never know. You put in

447
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<v Speaker 4>your phone number or your skin your Refreshing Awards card

448
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<v Speaker 4>and you find out it's free. So take advantage. Sign up,

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<v Speaker 4>become a member, download the app. It's free, it's easy

450
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<v Speaker 4>to find. All you got to do is search for

451
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<v Speaker 4>it and your iPhones the Apple I guess this is

452
00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:25.279
<v Speaker 4>it called, yeah, the app Store on your iPhone, and

453
00:22:25.319 --> 00:22:27.680
<v Speaker 4>I guess the Google play Store if you have an Android.

454
00:22:27.799 --> 00:22:31.359
<v Speaker 4>So sign up. You should trust me, take my word

455
00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:34.839
<v Speaker 4>for it, all right. So the recruit that I guess

456
00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:38.480
<v Speaker 4>is looking at Yeah, he's going to make his decision tonight.

457
00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:45.519
<v Speaker 4>It's seven o'clock. He is a four star. Yeah, Hawthorne

458
00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:47.279
<v Speaker 4>is his last name. I don't know why I'm blanket

459
00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:49.680
<v Speaker 4>on his first name, but yeah, his name is Brayden

460
00:22:49.720 --> 00:22:53.599
<v Speaker 4>Hawthorne and he's going to announce tonight between Kentucky Duke Pitt,

461
00:22:53.599 --> 00:22:57.799
<v Speaker 4>West Virginia and Virginia Tech. He's a six' eight. Wing,

462
00:22:58.680 --> 00:23:00.759
<v Speaker 4>really his rankings are all over the. Place some have

463
00:23:00.839 --> 00:23:02.480
<v Speaker 4>him as high as in the top, forties some have

464
00:23:02.559 --> 00:23:04.720
<v Speaker 4>him closer to the. Eighties but either, way this is

465
00:23:04.759 --> 00:23:06.720
<v Speaker 4>a guy THAT i feel, like Probably kentucky, fans Maybe i'm.

466
00:23:06.759 --> 00:23:09.319
<v Speaker 4>Wrong maybe if you follow it like super, closely you've

467
00:23:09.400 --> 00:23:11.519
<v Speaker 4>been aware of this guy for a long, time but

468
00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:14.720
<v Speaker 4>it kind of seems like it it kind of popped

469
00:23:14.759 --> 00:23:17.039
<v Speaker 4>up out of. Nowhere and this, guy by the, way

470
00:23:17.119 --> 00:23:19.960
<v Speaker 4>did in fact make a significant jump in the recent.

471
00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:21.519
<v Speaker 4>Rankings the only Reason i'm bringing all this up is

472
00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:24.640
<v Speaker 4>Because kentucky get end up with a six seven six

473
00:23:24.759 --> 00:23:27.400
<v Speaker 4>eight wing who's a top thirty ish top forty ish

474
00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:29.559
<v Speaker 4>player that they probably didn't even know a whole lot

475
00:23:29.599 --> 00:23:31.720
<v Speaker 4>about prior to a couple weeks, ago or maybe even.

476
00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:34.720
<v Speaker 4>Sooner and that's just unusual around. Here BUT i think

477
00:23:35.039 --> 00:23:39.039
<v Speaker 4>when you get to the end of THE i would

478
00:23:39.039 --> 00:23:42.920
<v Speaker 4>say the, Portal but then, again like the transfer portal's

479
00:23:42.920 --> 00:23:46.839
<v Speaker 4>been closed for a while, now and clearly there's still

480
00:23:46.880 --> 00:23:48.720
<v Speaker 4>players out, there but the majority of the guys that

481
00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:51.400
<v Speaker 4>are still available in the portal are testing THE nba

482
00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:55.039
<v Speaker 4>draft situation and will probably make a decision soon to come.

483
00:23:55.079 --> 00:23:57.559
<v Speaker 4>Back but even those, guys it seems to be pretty

484
00:23:57.559 --> 00:23:59.240
<v Speaker 4>clear that they know where they're going to end up

485
00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:01.079
<v Speaker 4>if they do decided to come. Back in, fact some

486
00:24:01.119 --> 00:24:03.519
<v Speaker 4>of the guys that are testing the waters have not

487
00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:05.279
<v Speaker 4>even entered the portal, right meaning if they come, back

488
00:24:05.319 --> 00:24:08.319
<v Speaker 4>they're going where they played last. Year so with this

489
00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:13.079
<v Speaker 4>news as well As Mohammed kamara committing yesterday To louisville

490
00:24:13.079 --> 00:24:15.480
<v Speaker 4>seemingly out of, NOWHERE i don't want to say, that,

491
00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:18.519
<v Speaker 4>well we should just expect this every, year BUT i

492
00:24:18.559 --> 00:24:22.000
<v Speaker 4>really wouldn't wouldn't be shocked if that's how it plays,

493
00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:25.440
<v Speaker 4>out because you're going to have a certain amount of

494
00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:28.599
<v Speaker 4>scholarships every year available to go get guys in the,

495
00:24:28.599 --> 00:24:33.200
<v Speaker 4>portal and you probably will already have some guys signed

496
00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:36.599
<v Speaker 4>from the high school. Ranks but then you'll, realize, hey

497
00:24:36.599 --> 00:24:39.039
<v Speaker 4>we didn't get what we wanted in the portal at

498
00:24:39.039 --> 00:24:42.000
<v Speaker 4>this one. Position we have this scholarship. Left let's reevaluate

499
00:24:42.039 --> 00:24:44.480
<v Speaker 4>what's available in both the portal but also the high school,

500
00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:48.720
<v Speaker 4>ranks and there's really no risk at taking a chance

501
00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:53.000
<v Speaker 4>on a guy because it's just one. YEAR i, mean

502
00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:54.559
<v Speaker 4>it's a one. Year it's always been a one year.

503
00:24:54.599 --> 00:24:57.799
<v Speaker 4>Commitment BUT i Remember Chris mack told me this years

504
00:24:57.799 --> 00:25:00.079
<v Speaker 4>ago that when it comes to, recruiting some of the

505
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:04.119
<v Speaker 4>biggest mistakes you can make are believing a guy has

506
00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:06.359
<v Speaker 4>something that you end up finding out doesn't as far

507
00:25:06.359 --> 00:25:09.240
<v Speaker 4>as the ability to develop and. Whatnot and, yes you

508
00:25:09.319 --> 00:25:12.119
<v Speaker 4>can move on from a player if you. WANT i

509
00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:16.279
<v Speaker 4>guess your scholarship is technically a one year renewal every.

510
00:25:16.359 --> 00:25:19.000
<v Speaker 4>Year but that wasn't the way things, were, RIGHT i,

511
00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:20.960
<v Speaker 4>mean you didn't see. GUYS i mean it was rare

512
00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:23.119
<v Speaker 4>if a guy was, told, hey hit you, know see it.

513
00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:26.119
<v Speaker 4>Later and most kids didn't want to transfer because they

514
00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:29.119
<v Speaker 4>didn't want to sit out a. Year SO i guess

515
00:25:29.119 --> 00:25:32.200
<v Speaker 4>technically you weren't stuck with, Players but it was just

516
00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:37.160
<v Speaker 4>a different world to where most coaches probably just, Realized,

517
00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:40.240
<v Speaker 4>LOOK i asked his kid to come play for. Me

518
00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:42.559
<v Speaker 4>he's not quite as good AS i thought he was

519
00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:45.920
<v Speaker 4>going to. Be he's not progressing as quickly AS i would.

520
00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:48.559
<v Speaker 4>Like but you, know he took a chance on, me

521
00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:49.720
<v Speaker 4>AND i took a chance on.

522
00:25:49.799 --> 00:25:50.240
<v Speaker 3>Him and here we.

523
00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:53.039
<v Speaker 4>Are now it's, WELL i, mean you, know you wouldn't

524
00:25:53.039 --> 00:25:54.599
<v Speaker 4>feel as bad at all by kind of showing the

525
00:25:54.680 --> 00:25:57.359
<v Speaker 4>kid the door or maybe just having a conversation, saying,

526
00:25:57.400 --> 00:26:00.720
<v Speaker 4>HEY i think it's probably best for you if you

527
00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:03.240
<v Speaker 4>move on and here's here's here's the way you can do.

528
00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:06.759
<v Speaker 4>IT i, mean even if there was a resistance because

529
00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:09.640
<v Speaker 4>a kid didn't want to, leave, well, NOW i, mean

530
00:26:09.720 --> 00:26:12.079
<v Speaker 4>just don't pay, them, RIGHT i mean nil IS i,

531
00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:15.079
<v Speaker 4>MEAN i feel like every player on a basketball team

532
00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:18.240
<v Speaker 4>at a power program or even maybe a power, conference

533
00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:20.839
<v Speaker 4>they're getting something for. Nil they're not ALL i, Mean

534
00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:24.440
<v Speaker 4>i'm sure there's a wide range of what the top

535
00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:27.680
<v Speaker 4>players get and the guys who ride the. Bench but

536
00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:29.759
<v Speaker 4>let me give you an. Example Big, frank who transferred To

537
00:26:29.799 --> 00:26:34.079
<v Speaker 4>louisville last year was a guy who rarely, played but you,

538
00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:36.079
<v Speaker 4>know he's probably The he was the last GUY i

539
00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:38.759
<v Speaker 4>think added to the roster and he rarely ever, played

540
00:26:39.519 --> 00:26:42.200
<v Speaker 4>and he embraced that. Role but he didn't do that for.

541
00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:44.160
<v Speaker 4>Nothing i'm SURE i don't think he came To louisville

542
00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:46.720
<v Speaker 4>with the you, know with with the agreement of, YEAH

543
00:26:46.720 --> 00:26:48.880
<v Speaker 4>i want no nil. Money whenever clearly he could go

544
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:53.079
<v Speaker 4>elsewhere and get. Money so if there is you, know some,

545
00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:56.000
<v Speaker 4>RESISTANCE i, mean just you, know put it this, way

546
00:26:56.079 --> 00:26:58.599
<v Speaker 4>IF i, said, Hey, Austin i'm gonna let you know right,

547
00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:01.359
<v Speaker 4>now we are going to have to recruit over, You

548
00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:04.839
<v Speaker 4>we're just we're really needing a specific guy to come

549
00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:07.880
<v Speaker 4>in and fill that. Role that's that's more, experienced that's

550
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:11.200
<v Speaker 4>from the. Portal we we wish it would have worked out,

551
00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:14.039
<v Speaker 4>best but we think you probably would be better suited

552
00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:16.839
<v Speaker 4>to also portal and maybe find the new spot and

553
00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:18.240
<v Speaker 4>we'll be able to help you along the way if

554
00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:20.680
<v Speaker 4>we need. To and If austin responded with you that's,

555
00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:23.079
<v Speaker 4>OKAY i don't mind riding the. Bench, well then IF i, said,

556
00:27:23.079 --> 00:27:25.039
<v Speaker 4>okay well that's, fine but you get no innil, money

557
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:27.200
<v Speaker 4>that would probably incentivize you to, say, okay WELL i

558
00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:28.440
<v Speaker 4>am going to, leave you know WHAT i? Mean Right,

559
00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:32.559
<v Speaker 4>Like that's just so taking a taking a chance on

560
00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:34.000
<v Speaker 4>a kid is really there's not a whole lot of

561
00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:36.720
<v Speaker 4>risk on it because if it doesn't work, out that

562
00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:39.319
<v Speaker 4>scholarship can be can be available and you, know just

563
00:27:39.799 --> 00:27:41.480
<v Speaker 4>the next year if you need. To and by the,

564
00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:44.319
<v Speaker 4>Way i'd never recruit over you, ever you're. Safe Thank,

565
00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:48.799
<v Speaker 4>yeah the il deal is going to be a good

566
00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:53.240
<v Speaker 4>situation for. You it's just Free. Thornton's that's a pretty good,

567
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:56.519
<v Speaker 4>deal is it. Not, yes that's the best, deal the

568
00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:58.160
<v Speaker 4>best deal they could. OFFER i, think at, least you,

569
00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:00.480
<v Speaker 4>know in my. Mind all, Right SO i mentioned this

570
00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:02.400
<v Speaker 4>at the beginning of the. Show we've got some more

571
00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:06.559
<v Speaker 4>storms coming our way this, evening And woky our partners

572
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:10.640
<v Speaker 4>over there At channel thirty two w oka Why they've

573
00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:15.960
<v Speaker 4>put together something THAT i believe is more needed than

574
00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:20.359
<v Speaker 4>you might. Expect and that is a great very you,

575
00:28:20.440 --> 00:28:24.160
<v Speaker 4>know this is basically a breakdown for dummies as far

576
00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:29.240
<v Speaker 4>as what is truly you, know the warnings like warning and.

577
00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:33.799
<v Speaker 4>Watch do you know how many people get confused about

578
00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:36.480
<v Speaker 4>tornado warning and tornado watch as far as like which

579
00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:37.000
<v Speaker 4>one is more?

580
00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:39.599
<v Speaker 3>Severe it wouldn't shock me if there is a lot

581
00:28:39.640 --> 00:28:40.599
<v Speaker 3>of people that just get that.

582
00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:42.720
<v Speaker 4>Connunce, yeah they get, it they get it.

583
00:28:42.759 --> 00:28:45.240
<v Speaker 3>CONFUSED i GUESS i really don't, know BUT i would

584
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:48.839
<v Speaker 3>assume that the tornado warning is worse.

585
00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:51.880
<v Speaker 4>So a watch. Is and this is, again this is

586
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:53.759
<v Speaker 4>that this is the Reason i'm bringing this up is

587
00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:57.480
<v Speaker 4>because they just put out an update reminding people that

588
00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:03.960
<v Speaker 4>the THEN aa weather radio service is offline this week

589
00:29:04.119 --> 00:29:06.599
<v Speaker 4>and it'll be basically you're not going to get those

590
00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:09.599
<v Speaker 4>prompts on the radio this week if there's severe storms

591
00:29:09.599 --> 00:29:13.680
<v Speaker 4>in your area because they're doing mandatory upgrades of the

592
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:16.519
<v Speaker 4>system which are needed in a major. Way so this

593
00:29:16.599 --> 00:29:19.599
<v Speaker 4>is a major resource for how they let people know

594
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:22.720
<v Speaker 4>that there are severe weather watches and warnings across the.

595
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:26.920
<v Speaker 4>Region so they're just they're using their platform to let people.

596
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:28.680
<v Speaker 4>Know if you're somebody that just waits to hear it

597
00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:31.400
<v Speaker 4>on your radio dial that it's, severe don't do that

598
00:29:31.480 --> 00:29:33.839
<v Speaker 4>because it won't be coming, however because there's because there's no.

599
00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:36.759
<v Speaker 4>Update so that's something that people should know. About but

600
00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:39.400
<v Speaker 4>when looking at this report they just put, out it

601
00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:42.559
<v Speaker 4>does give a nice. Breakdown it's a severe weather god

602
00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:46.200
<v Speaker 4>from the one and ONLY J cardosi OF woky and

603
00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:51.960
<v Speaker 4>a watch is not as severe as a, Warning so

604
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:54.599
<v Speaker 4>the duration of a watch can be several. Hours the

605
00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:56.759
<v Speaker 4>duration of a warning can be twenty minutes to one.

606
00:29:56.799 --> 00:30:00.640
<v Speaker 4>Hour the coverage area for a watch is portions of.

607
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:04.759
<v Speaker 4>States the coverage area for warnings or portions of. Counties

608
00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:09.480
<v Speaker 4>advanced notice for a watch is hours advanced notice for

609
00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:13.599
<v Speaker 4>a warning is. Minutes the action you should take for

610
00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:16.519
<v Speaker 4>a watch is have a. Plan the action you should

611
00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:20.599
<v Speaker 4>take for a warning is take. Cover. That that may sound,

612
00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:24.400
<v Speaker 4>really really obvious to a lot of, people people who

613
00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:26.359
<v Speaker 4>may have known that for as long as they can,

614
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:29.839
<v Speaker 4>remember But i'm telling you there's probably more people out

615
00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:31.759
<v Speaker 4>there than you realize that get. Confused, okay wait a.

616
00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:33.920
<v Speaker 4>Second If i'm, watching DO i need to watch out?

617
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:34.960
<v Speaker 2>For? It is the?

618
00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:37.160
<v Speaker 4>Warning, like, hey, warning there could be a watch coming.

619
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:39.319
<v Speaker 4>AGAIN i know it sounds stupid to some, people BUT

620
00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:43.759
<v Speaker 4>i know many that have oftentimes got the two. Confused

621
00:30:43.880 --> 00:30:46.039
<v Speaker 4>AND i, MEAN i don't know of it ever causing

622
00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:48.880
<v Speaker 4>any type of disaster to where you've you, know it's

623
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<v Speaker 4>put you in, Danger but when you have a tornado

624
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<v Speaker 4>in your state that has killed nineteen, PEOPLE i, MEAN

625
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<v Speaker 4>i think people need to know this. Stuff and if

626
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<v Speaker 4>there's one person listening That i've somehow helped get that

627
00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:03.839
<v Speaker 4>thing cleared, up THEN i feel Like i've at least

628
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:07.519
<v Speaker 4>helped in some. Way so, AGAIN i don't know exactly

629
00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:10.480
<v Speaker 4>what type of severity we're going to see this, evening

630
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<v Speaker 4>but stay, safe. Everybody all, right let's do this let's

631
00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:15.759
<v Speaker 4>take a quick. Break we'll come back on the other

632
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<v Speaker 4>side and bring him. In he's Doctor eric McElroy from

633
00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:20.279
<v Speaker 4>Pro Rehaf Physical. Therapy looking forward to catching up with,

634
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:22.799
<v Speaker 4>him and we'll keep this thing rolling, along taking you

635
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:25.319
<v Speaker 4>up till six o'clock right here On Sports talk seven.

636
00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:29.240
<v Speaker 1>Ninety now back To coffee And company fueled By thornton's

637
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638
00:31:31.160 --> 00:31:33.319
<v Speaker 4>Day that's, right It's coffee And Company phil By thornton's

639
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<v Speaker 4>here On Sports talk seven. Ninety thanks for hanging out

640
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<v Speaker 4>with us as we'd take you up until six. O'clock

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<v Speaker 4>are is he already?

642
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<v Speaker 4>Austin it looks like he's already. ON i don't. KNOW

644
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645
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<v Speaker 4>you all were both both on the air that. Time

646
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:48.400
<v Speaker 4>so my b it's, okay we like to get people

647
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<v Speaker 4>some behind the. Scenes well let me give him a better. Introduction,

648
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:54.920
<v Speaker 4>yeah there we. Go it's Doctor eric, McElroy pro Rehap Physical. Therapy.

649
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:57.839
<v Speaker 4>Yeah so hopefully you guys didn't say any curse. WORDS

650
00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:00.000
<v Speaker 4>i know you. DIDN'T i know you. Wouldn't but, anyway

651
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:01.640
<v Speaker 4>Is eric good to have you back? On my? Man

652
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:02.519
<v Speaker 4>how was how's life?

653
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:06.640
<v Speaker 5>Been it's been, great, MAN i can't come playing. Busy you,

654
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:08.920
<v Speaker 5>know we're in the uh we're a little ahead of,

655
00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:12.680
<v Speaker 5>YOU i, Think, uh but we're like uber drivers driving

656
00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:15.640
<v Speaker 5>our kids the sports all the time and unpaid uber

657
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:18.559
<v Speaker 5>drivers and then, uh you, know out of town at

658
00:32:18.599 --> 00:32:22.799
<v Speaker 5>soccer tournaments and basketball or. Whatever so, uh it's. AWESOME

659
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:25.400
<v Speaker 5>i love it, though you, know as exhausting as in

660
00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:27.799
<v Speaker 5>AS i love everything ounce of. It so that's. Good.

661
00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:30.799
<v Speaker 4>Yep at least four four of my days throughout the

662
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:35.079
<v Speaker 4>week or are they include baseball and, uh you know

663
00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:37.720
<v Speaker 4>soon it'll be football again and then basketball and you,

664
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:39.759
<v Speaker 4>know without even realizing that that's not my, life but

665
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:42.039
<v Speaker 4>it's it's it's fun, stuff AND i Know i'll miss

666
00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:45.119
<v Speaker 4>it one day, whenever, uh whenever it's. Gone so glad

667
00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:46.720
<v Speaker 4>to hear things are going well with. You there's a

668
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:49.200
<v Speaker 4>few injuries THAT i wanted to to to chat with you.

669
00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:52.079
<v Speaker 4>About one is is is not a recent, injury but

670
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.680
<v Speaker 4>it led to a retirement decision From Derek carr that

671
00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:57.359
<v Speaker 4>obviously Put Tyler shuck in a situation where he may

672
00:32:57.440 --> 00:32:59.559
<v Speaker 4>be able to play pretty early for The New Orleans.

673
00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:03.519
<v Speaker 4>Saints but with cars, injury it stems from him having

674
00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:10.519
<v Speaker 4>an issue with his, shoulder and the decision to retire

675
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:13.519
<v Speaker 4>was essentially because he didn't want to have the surgery

676
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:16.799
<v Speaker 4>that was. Needed so is a laborl, tear rotator cuff

677
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:19.960
<v Speaker 4>damage and his right throwing. Shoulder it sounds like he

678
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:24.160
<v Speaker 4>went through non surgical, treatments including different. INJECTIONS i know

679
00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:26.079
<v Speaker 4>he did a lot of rehabit sounds, like but it

680
00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:27.960
<v Speaker 4>didn't Get he didn't get the results THAT i guess he,

681
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:30.400
<v Speaker 4>wanted and he was told that surgery was going to

682
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:32.559
<v Speaker 4>be the only way he could get out there and play.

683
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:34.720
<v Speaker 4>AGAIN i just get you, KNOW i know every situation is,

684
00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:37.599
<v Speaker 4>different as we've discussed many, times but whenever he's going

685
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:41.839
<v Speaker 4>through those non surgical you, know treatments and trying to

686
00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:45.480
<v Speaker 4>basically get healthy without the, surgery is that more so

687
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:47.599
<v Speaker 4>just trying to just see if he can heal on its,

688
00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:49.480
<v Speaker 4>own or is he just trying to buy time? There you?

689
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:52.359
<v Speaker 2>Think DO i think he's.

690
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:55.759
<v Speaker 5>Trying to buy? TIME i, mean the complexity of the

691
00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:59.519
<v Speaker 5>surgery was going to put him out substantial length of,

692
00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:01.160
<v Speaker 5>time and then, you're you, know you're looking at the

693
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:05.359
<v Speaker 5>guy on the obviously tail end of his career already

694
00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:09.599
<v Speaker 5>probably lost, velocity uh in. Accuracy and then you add

695
00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:11.280
<v Speaker 5>into the fact that you're gonna have to sit out

696
00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:13.800
<v Speaker 5>as long as he has eat into next seat or

697
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:17.360
<v Speaker 5>as long as he need to eating next, season especially

698
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:20.280
<v Speaker 5>if he's got rotator cuff damage they're going to have to.

699
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:22.960
<v Speaker 5>REPAIR i think he's taking that all. In when you're

700
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:25.559
<v Speaker 5>doing the rehab, process sometimes you can get them. Back

701
00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:27.880
<v Speaker 5>you'd be surprised that what we can do to get

702
00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:30.079
<v Speaker 5>people back if you were to see it just on the,

703
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:32.320
<v Speaker 5>image and you'd be, like no. Way but there's a

704
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:34.239
<v Speaker 5>lot of you, know first of, all the human body

705
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:37.320
<v Speaker 5>is an amazing thing. Too you know when you're when

706
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:39.719
<v Speaker 5>you're working with what we call synergistic muscle, Groups so

707
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:41.719
<v Speaker 5>you're basically trying to, say, right you know what to

708
00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:44.760
<v Speaker 5>we utilize it does a similar? Thing is the area

709
00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:48.599
<v Speaker 5>that's damaged and and then how can we incorporate that

710
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:52.280
<v Speaker 5>and into the rehab, process into the performance side of

711
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:54.960
<v Speaker 5>things so they can still perform at the level they

712
00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:58.559
<v Speaker 5>need to given the trauma to whatever. Area let's say

713
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:01.440
<v Speaker 5>we'll say the rotator cuff in this, case it sounds

714
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:04.239
<v Speaker 5>like that it was too far gone and and you,

715
00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:06.559
<v Speaker 5>know maybe he can function and move around and do

716
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:08.440
<v Speaker 5>the things he wants to. Do but there's a big

717
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:11.039
<v Speaker 5>difference between doing that or even throwing a football with a,

718
00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:13.760
<v Speaker 5>kid as there is getting out there in AN nfl

719
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:16.079
<v Speaker 5>game and having to throw the football like he's gonna need.

720
00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:18.000
<v Speaker 5>To and you, KNOW i think when you when you

721
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:21.559
<v Speaker 5>look at all those, variables and to be, honest there's

722
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:24.800
<v Speaker 5>no guarantee he's gonna come back from that and and

723
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:26.679
<v Speaker 5>still be the, SAME i, mean and still be able

724
00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:28.159
<v Speaker 5>to do the things he. Wants AND i think that's

725
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:31.679
<v Speaker 5>probably another conversation he's been, having Is i'm gonna go

726
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:35.199
<v Speaker 5>through all, this go through the rehab process, again even

727
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:37.760
<v Speaker 5>more challenging than What i've been doing in a lot of,

728
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:41.000
<v Speaker 5>ways and there's no, guarantee uh That i'm gonna be

729
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:46.199
<v Speaker 5>Where i've been before this injury. Happened you, know it's probably,

730
00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:48.000
<v Speaker 5>like all, right that's. TIME i don't you, Know I'M

731
00:35:48.039 --> 00:35:51.440
<v Speaker 5>i don't have the the grind anymore to go through.

732
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:53.440
<v Speaker 5>That AND i think THAT'S i respect, that. SURE i,

733
00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:55.440
<v Speaker 5>MEAN i THINK i respect you know that these guys

734
00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:57.280
<v Speaker 5>at the end of their, career it's, like you, know

735
00:35:58.440 --> 00:35:59.440
<v Speaker 5>it's not worth it to me.

736
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:02.719
<v Speaker 4>Anymore, know, Yeah AND i think, again if you, know you,

737
00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:05.480
<v Speaker 4>know and it probably wasn't an easy thing to. Do

738
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:08.159
<v Speaker 4>but if you feel fulfilled in your career and you

739
00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:10.440
<v Speaker 4>as you, mentioned you look at that rough that tough

740
00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:12.280
<v Speaker 4>road ahead as far as, rehabbing and knowing that you

741
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:15.039
<v Speaker 4>still couldn't even maybe be back to the same, GUY i,

742
00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:17.320
<v Speaker 4>MEAN i don't think the decision is really that. Surprising

743
00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:19.960
<v Speaker 4>but another thing is if you're going, through if you're

744
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:23.039
<v Speaker 4>just gonna try to play and get the injections and,

745
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:25.559
<v Speaker 4>REHAB i, mean you might be able to fight through the,

746
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:27.920
<v Speaker 4>pain but you also might, know, Yeah i'm still nowhere

747
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:29.800
<v Speaker 4>near the QUARTERBACK i need to be to have, success

748
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:31.960
<v Speaker 4>and that's probably a tough thing to. Realize but, again

749
00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:34.880
<v Speaker 4>if you, know you, know so, uh you know that

750
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:38.400
<v Speaker 4>that decision certainly will hopefully bode well For Tyler shuck

751
00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:40.440
<v Speaker 4>and it gives him a chance to play right.

752
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:44.119
<v Speaker 5>Away it put him in a great, opportunity and, honestly you,

753
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.800
<v Speaker 5>know he could Probably i'm Sure Darren carr is, like,

754
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:48.719
<v Speaker 5>HEY i can be around and be a resource for.

755
00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:50.760
<v Speaker 5>YOU i, MEAN i think that's probably the one. THING i,

756
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:52.320
<v Speaker 5>Mean i'd hate to see him just walk from the

757
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:54.719
<v Speaker 5>team and Then Tyler shuck not have kind of a

758
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:57.639
<v Speaker 5>veteran there to be able to pick his, brain but you,

759
00:36:57.639 --> 00:36:59.719
<v Speaker 5>know it is what it. Is he's pretty much a

760
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:02.920
<v Speaker 5>vetch and at this, point, yeah it's a great opportunity

761
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:06.400
<v Speaker 5>for him to just step in and hopefully get that, spot.

762
00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:08.440
<v Speaker 4>No doubt about. It Doctor eric, mclroys our, guest you're

763
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:10.920
<v Speaker 4>joining us from pro reap physical. THERAPY a big injury

764
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:14.679
<v Speaker 4>in THE nba that was really devastating last week As Jason.

765
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:16.760
<v Speaker 4>Tatum it seems as if those who watched it knew

766
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:19.320
<v Speaker 4>right away that it looked like An achilles, situation and

767
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:22.000
<v Speaker 4>that's exactly what it, was a Ruptured achilles. Tendon he

768
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:25.039
<v Speaker 4>had surgery right. AFTER i know The achilles injuries have

769
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:26.880
<v Speaker 4>come up quite a bit in our conversations over the.

770
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:29.840
<v Speaker 4>Years what do you expect when it comes to the

771
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:33.719
<v Speaker 4>rehab process? Here obviously he's expected to miss all of next,

772
00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:36.039
<v Speaker 4>season WHICH i think is pretty pretty standard as far

773
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:38.440
<v Speaker 4>as the amount of. Time but from from now and

774
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:41.280
<v Speaker 4>when would when would those working With Jayson, tatum one

775
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:43.440
<v Speaker 4>of the best basketball players on the, planet, like what's

776
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:46.679
<v Speaker 4>the timeline for, actually you, know putting weight on that

777
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:49.239
<v Speaker 4>foot and you, know just baby steps as far as

778
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:51.519
<v Speaker 4>trying to kind of start the rehab, process because this

779
00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:53.679
<v Speaker 4>is one that clearly it's still one of the injuries

780
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:56.400
<v Speaker 4>that is rather. COMMON i, mean it doesn't happen every,

781
00:37:56.440 --> 00:37:58.480
<v Speaker 4>day but it's not uncommon to see in, basketball and

782
00:37:58.519 --> 00:37:59.960
<v Speaker 4>it'll put you on the shelf for quite a.

783
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:03.519
<v Speaker 5>While, YEAH i, mean it's, uh it's one of the

784
00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:05.960
<v Speaker 5>more challenging things to come back. From we've talked about this.

785
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:09.119
<v Speaker 5>Before you know that the tele attendon ruptures or quad

786
00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:13.280
<v Speaker 5>tendon ruptures or or two of the probably hardest things

787
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:15.239
<v Speaker 5>to come back from because you've got to give the

788
00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:18.079
<v Speaker 5>tendon time to heal and and if you start to

789
00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:20.840
<v Speaker 5>contract that muscle too, soon it's gonna pull on the.

790
00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:23.760
<v Speaker 5>Tendon and what what what we don't want to happen

791
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:26.400
<v Speaker 5>is it stresses the even though it may not quote

792
00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:30.559
<v Speaker 5>unquote rerupture pull, apart it'll stretch too. Far and then

793
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:32.920
<v Speaker 5>if you could think about just, levers you have kind

794
00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:36.800
<v Speaker 5>of a loose lever and that doesn't correlate to explosive you, know,

795
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:40.239
<v Speaker 5>explosiveness much less being able to power through. Walking even,

796
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:43.599
<v Speaker 5>so there's that it's really fragile early on when they

797
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:46.400
<v Speaker 5>do that repairs in a general. WAY i mean everything's

798
00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:49.400
<v Speaker 5>a little. Different some sometimeframes are a little, loose but you,

799
00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:52.239
<v Speaker 5>know generally, speaking that first six weeks he's not doing,

800
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:55.559
<v Speaker 5>anything probably not way bearing uh in a food protecting

801
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:59.519
<v Speaker 5>the surgical. Repair depending on the repair and the severity of,

802
00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:01.800
<v Speaker 5>it you, know you may start getting you, know getting

803
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:04.760
<v Speaker 5>around in your. Boot, uh but you're gonna keep it

804
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:07.400
<v Speaker 5>in the boot where the heel is, elevated so that

805
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:11.000
<v Speaker 5>way the tendon has this opportunity to so there's wedges

806
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:13.639
<v Speaker 5>in the boot to keep his you, know heel above his,

807
00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:16.639
<v Speaker 5>toes if you. Will and then that way that tendon

808
00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:19.280
<v Speaker 5>has the best opportunity to heal down because what you

809
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:22.000
<v Speaker 5>want is the tendon to have obviously to be able

810
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:23.599
<v Speaker 5>to have a lot of tension in, it so that

811
00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:26.199
<v Speaker 5>way it'll be a, spring it'll it'll pre over produced.

812
00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:29.960
<v Speaker 5>Power so that's what they're gonna do in the next

813
00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:32.960
<v Speaker 5>you don't, know four weeks ish, uh and then you

814
00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:35.280
<v Speaker 5>start transitioning out of the. Boot he's already started the

815
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:37.800
<v Speaker 5>rehab process at that. Point. Uh and then you, know

816
00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:40.559
<v Speaker 5>early on you're just trying to make sure that the

817
00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:43.800
<v Speaker 5>decisions are healing, well, uh the mobility is coming back

818
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:45.800
<v Speaker 5>to a reasonable. Level make sure they don't get it

819
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:47.960
<v Speaker 5>what's caught a contractor they don't get stuck with their

820
00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:51.800
<v Speaker 5>toes pointed, down and then you, know you start. Transit

821
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:54.840
<v Speaker 5>you also start working on everything. Else so you, know

822
00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:57.320
<v Speaker 5>for an athlete, especially you want to you don't want

823
00:39:57.360 --> 00:39:59.519
<v Speaker 5>him to, fall you, know too far behind as far

824
00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:02.320
<v Speaker 5>as this, can conditioning and whatnot, goes even though then

825
00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:04.800
<v Speaker 5>they may have the off season doesn't. Matter so you're

826
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:07.199
<v Speaker 5>working on strength in other areas because you, know being

827
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:09.519
<v Speaker 5>non weight bearing for a short period of, time you

828
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:12.559
<v Speaker 5>could surprise how weak you get just in that whole

829
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:15.800
<v Speaker 5>up extremity for, instance that whole. Leg and then you,

830
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:18.280
<v Speaker 5>know working on you know. Whatever you can do all

831
00:40:18.360 --> 00:40:20.800
<v Speaker 5>kinds of different things and be, creative but you're basically

832
00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:23.320
<v Speaker 5>trying to keep them, moving get them, moving get other areas,

833
00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:26.440
<v Speaker 5>strong make sure that they're not too, sedentary and then

834
00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:31.400
<v Speaker 5>start integrating, in you, know gradually more for recisteans as

835
00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:35.679
<v Speaker 5>far as weight bearing walking obviously you, know, strength, agility

836
00:40:35.719 --> 00:40:37.760
<v Speaker 5>all that kind of stuff starts to come over the

837
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:38.280
<v Speaker 5>next several.

838
00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:44.480
<v Speaker 4>Months ANOTHER nba injury that is still it doesn't impact

839
00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:46.880
<v Speaker 4>the postseason moving forward because The nuggets did. Lose BUT

840
00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:50.159
<v Speaker 4>i was surprised to see the reporting prior To game

841
00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:52.960
<v Speaker 4>seven On sunday That Aaron gordon of The nuggets he

842
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:56.480
<v Speaker 4>had had a hamstring. It it was listed as A

843
00:40:56.639 --> 00:41:00.599
<v Speaker 4>grade two level hamstring, strain and from WHAT i could,

844
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:02.679
<v Speaker 4>tell it looks like a pretty significant injury that that

845
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:05.280
<v Speaker 4>typically would take some time to. Recover, however he. Did

846
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:08.840
<v Speaker 4>he chose to play In game. Seven he played had

847
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:10.960
<v Speaker 4>eight points eleven boards in twenty five. Minutes it later

848
00:41:11.039 --> 00:41:14.079
<v Speaker 4>came out That Nikola jokic advised him not to play

849
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:15.760
<v Speaker 4>just because he realized that he would be in a

850
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:18.599
<v Speaker 4>lot of pain AND i guess could further injure. HIMSELF

851
00:41:18.599 --> 00:41:20.519
<v Speaker 4>i guess my, question first, off when you hear of

852
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:23.079
<v Speaker 4>a guy that had a grade level to A grade

853
00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:25.760
<v Speaker 4>two left hamstring, STRAIN i guess there can be different you,

854
00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:27.480
<v Speaker 4>KNOW i guess there's different levels to. That although it

855
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:29.280
<v Speaker 4>does say great. TOO i, mean the fact that he

856
00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:32.719
<v Speaker 4>did play was that was that? Surprising because it did

857
00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:34.519
<v Speaker 4>come out after the fact that some folks were saying

858
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:36.440
<v Speaker 4>that maybe there should be better protocols in place to

859
00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:39.480
<v Speaker 4>protect players from making that. Decision it got me back

860
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:41.960
<v Speaker 4>to a conversation we've had, before is if there's medical

861
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:44.119
<v Speaker 4>folks telling a guy he can't, go can they can

862
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:46.480
<v Speaker 4>they actually tell him, no you're not allowed to play?

863
00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:47.880
<v Speaker 4>It it seems like he wanted to play and there

864
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:49.320
<v Speaker 4>was he wasn't going to take no for an. Answer

865
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:50.840
<v Speaker 4>what was this?

866
00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:51.639
<v Speaker 5>Line eight?

867
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:54.599
<v Speaker 4>Points, yeah he had eight points and eleven boards in

868
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:56.880
<v Speaker 4>twenty five, minutes and he was. Relective yeah he.

869
00:41:57.039 --> 00:41:59.199
<v Speaker 5>WAS i, mean you, KNOW i don't, Know i'm a

870
00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:04.559
<v Speaker 5>real you, know, like look, great two strain is pretty. Significant,

871
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:07.239
<v Speaker 5>uh usually it's self, limiting, right he can't even get

872
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:07.559
<v Speaker 5>out and do.

873
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:09.840
<v Speaker 4>Anything, YEAH i mean they acted before the game that

874
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:11.599
<v Speaker 4>there was no chance he'd ever be able to play at,

875
00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:12.559
<v Speaker 4>all and then it was out there.

876
00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:15.960
<v Speaker 5>Starting so what that what that tells me is and

877
00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:18.119
<v Speaker 5>this is WHERE i could really nerd out and gotta

878
00:42:18.159 --> 00:42:19.960
<v Speaker 5>be careful right, there go for. It we could go

879
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:22.360
<v Speaker 5>on forever about, this but you, know we have to

880
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:26.559
<v Speaker 5>remember that this is these muscles are, cylinders, like they're not, flat,

881
00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:29.559
<v Speaker 5>Right so he could have been very fortunate and that

882
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:31.480
<v Speaker 5>the majority of the tear was in a way that

883
00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:34.920
<v Speaker 5>it allowed other muscles to almost take the load off

884
00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:36.920
<v Speaker 5>of it right, now that makes. Sense stressed as much

885
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:38.840
<v Speaker 5>as part of the. Other you, know your hamstrings are

886
00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:41.880
<v Speaker 5>three separate, muscles and they just call the group of

887
00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:44.559
<v Speaker 5>them the. Hamstrings so if it's one of them in,

888
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:48.239
<v Speaker 5>particular that and it may have been a certain part

889
00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:49.880
<v Speaker 5>of the, Muscle so it could be closer to the.

890
00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:52.000
<v Speaker 5>Hip it goes from your hip to below your. Knee

891
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:55.159
<v Speaker 5>it could be closer to the knee where even though

892
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:58.039
<v Speaker 5>it was the significant, strain meaning that about fifty percent

893
00:42:58.039 --> 00:43:00.639
<v Speaker 5>of that portion of the muscle was, torn it may

894
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:03.719
<v Speaker 5>not been significant enough of where it is and where

895
00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:07.199
<v Speaker 5>it was. Located then it impacted his ability to. Perform

896
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:10.440
<v Speaker 5>so that's why you don't base it off just imaging

897
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:14.000
<v Speaker 5>or just the. Injury you based off all, right given

898
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:15.840
<v Speaker 5>WHAT i, have what is he able to? Do and

899
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:18.039
<v Speaker 5>if he's out there in practice moving around and doing

900
00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:21.760
<v Speaker 5>well and pain being the biggest, issue which is all

901
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:24.800
<v Speaker 5>these guys are in, pain but he can, perform Then

902
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:27.199
<v Speaker 5>i'm good with him. Playing you, KNOW i think that

903
00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:31.119
<v Speaker 5>in some. Ways you, know it's just what if he

904
00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:32.840
<v Speaker 5>tears it, More so he tears it, more you, know

905
00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:35.039
<v Speaker 5>it's NOT i hate to say. It it's our job

906
00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:38.519
<v Speaker 5>to give the best advice you possibly, can and whether

907
00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:41.400
<v Speaker 5>they take that. Advice, now it's a performance issue at some,

908
00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:42.760
<v Speaker 5>point Like i'm going to go to the coach and

909
00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:44.719
<v Speaker 5>that he's not going to be doing very. Well, yeah

910
00:43:44.760 --> 00:43:46.760
<v Speaker 5>but if he's looking good in practice and he's able

911
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:49.199
<v Speaker 5>to do move, around AND i test him in all

912
00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:50.880
<v Speaker 5>the different ways we need to test, him like he's

913
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:53.280
<v Speaker 5>kicking the, boxes then why WOULD i hold him?

914
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Out?

915
00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:56.440
<v Speaker 5>Uh and you, know and especially in a playoff. SITUATION

916
00:43:56.599 --> 00:43:58.400
<v Speaker 5>i mean if it was a regular season, game it's

917
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:01.320
<v Speaker 5>a no. Brainer it's a playoff because, like you, know

918
00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:03.480
<v Speaker 5>let's see what he. Does the worst case, scenario he

919
00:44:03.519 --> 00:44:07.039
<v Speaker 5>can't do it and he got pulled. Out so it's

920
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:10.159
<v Speaker 5>different than he can't make a decision for. Himself he's

921
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:12.880
<v Speaker 5>concustour really. Bad he doesn't even know where he's. At

922
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:16.840
<v Speaker 5>that's a, difference you, know the. Circumstance, sure but he

923
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:19.599
<v Speaker 5>still wants to go. In you, know it's it's all, About,

924
00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:22.119
<v Speaker 5>hey let's see how he's, doing how he's. Moving is

925
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:25.440
<v Speaker 5>there a, Risk, absolutely there's a, Risk but you, know

926
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:27.400
<v Speaker 5>if he's checking the, boxes THEN i don't have any

927
00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:28.719
<v Speaker 5>reason why to keep them.

928
00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:32.000
<v Speaker 4>Out have you had experiences with that in your career

929
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:35.480
<v Speaker 4>with an athlete that really kind of just didn't didn't

930
00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:37.880
<v Speaker 4>want to hear anything anybody was saying about needing to

931
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:40.480
<v Speaker 4>take some time off to get to get, recovered and

932
00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:42.920
<v Speaker 4>it's not worth it because you could further injure. YOURSELF i,

933
00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:46.559
<v Speaker 4>MEAN i would imagine that's not that uncommon all the.

934
00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:48.519
<v Speaker 5>Time And, nick you, know the hardest ones are high school.

935
00:44:48.599 --> 00:44:50.920
<v Speaker 4>Kids, yeah and that makes. Sense i'm not that surprised by.

936
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:55.400
<v Speaker 5>That the hardest athletes to treat our high school. Athletes

937
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:59.440
<v Speaker 5>and because they're hard, head they're, hardheaded pro is a pro,

938
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:03.320
<v Speaker 5>understand they're getting, paid they know what it means to

939
00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:08.199
<v Speaker 5>perform at the top. Level bill take. Right a college,

940
00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:10.159
<v Speaker 5>ATHLETE i hate to say it this. Way they're not,

941
00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:12.800
<v Speaker 5>dumb like academically, dumb but they're they're there to just

942
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:14.960
<v Speaker 5>be told what to, do so they generally. Do they're

943
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:16.559
<v Speaker 5>like the. Military you tell them to do, it they're

944
00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:19.400
<v Speaker 5>gonna do. It uh you tell you, know high, school

945
00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:23.920
<v Speaker 5>the fear pressure is, huge the parents are in, control.

946
00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:25.599
<v Speaker 4>The fear of missing out on. Moments i'm sure as

947
00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:27.719
<v Speaker 4>a part of, it too correct they never get.

948
00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:30.920
<v Speaker 5>Back it's the whole social, network yep of. It you,

949
00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:33.920
<v Speaker 5>know the pressures from your kids are your your peers

950
00:45:34.039 --> 00:45:36.840
<v Speaker 5>or so it's the. Hardest the parents think they know

951
00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:39.760
<v Speaker 5>more than than they, do and so you're kind of

952
00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:42.039
<v Speaker 5>dealing with all these if the coaches think they know

953
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:45.199
<v Speaker 5>more than they, do the communication between us and the

954
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:47.239
<v Speaker 5>coaches are so. So the high school kids are the.

955
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:49.159
<v Speaker 5>Hardest So i'm just very real with. Them i'm, like

956
00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:51.239
<v Speaker 5>you know, what seventy percent of you is not gonna

957
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:54.719
<v Speaker 5>take is not gonna cut. It that's all you Can, yeah,

958
00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:56.599
<v Speaker 5>yeah you. Know i'm, like, hey, look you had seventy

959
00:45:56.639 --> 00:45:58.199
<v Speaker 5>percent in very good. Man, Like i'm not saying that

960
00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:00.000
<v Speaker 5>be it, mean not just saying like you're not gonna

961
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:02.800
<v Speaker 5>to be able to perform. Well and, also you, know

962
00:46:03.320 --> 00:46:05.599
<v Speaker 5>the more we let this, go the longer you're gonna

963
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:07.400
<v Speaker 5>have to deal with. It the more we get it

964
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:08.800
<v Speaker 5>taken care of. You if you believe in What i'm,

965
00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:11.360
<v Speaker 5>DOING i have no incentive to keep you. Out that's the.

966
00:46:11.400 --> 00:46:13.880
<v Speaker 5>CONVERSATION i have have zero incentive to keep you. Out

967
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:16.039
<v Speaker 5>i'm doing this to protect, you AND i tell the

968
00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:18.760
<v Speaker 5>parents the same, thing by the, way But i'm also

969
00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:20.360
<v Speaker 5>going to do it the right. Way because you are

970
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:22.719
<v Speaker 5>young and, developing and we need to make sure when

971
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:24.599
<v Speaker 5>you go back that you're going back at the level

972
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:27.000
<v Speaker 5>that's expected and not just the level you, know you

973
00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:29.559
<v Speaker 5>just think you're going, back and so being out there

974
00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:31.559
<v Speaker 5>isn't going to cut. It so that's you, know and

975
00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:33.800
<v Speaker 5>you're at risk for other. Injuries and they don't understand that,

976
00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:36.440
<v Speaker 5>either and SO i think that that's you, know those

977
00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:39.039
<v Speaker 5>are things those understand. That, yeah they get.

978
00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:40.599
<v Speaker 4>It it's one of those things Where i'm hearing you

979
00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:42.239
<v Speaker 4>say this And i'm, like, yeah that makes obvious. Sense

980
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:44.239
<v Speaker 4>but Then i'm thinking about trying to hear that from

981
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:47.440
<v Speaker 4>a from a sixteen or fifteen year old kid's, perspective

982
00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:49.800
<v Speaker 4>with again just not thinking about anything other than just

983
00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:51.199
<v Speaker 4>not don't. Care i'm gonna get out. THERE i got to.

984
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:53.760
<v Speaker 4>Play and, yeah you're saying things that you would just

985
00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:55.760
<v Speaker 4>assume people will. Know, hey you have no incentive to

986
00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:58.599
<v Speaker 4>keep somebody. Out you're not hopeful that they miss out

987
00:46:58.599 --> 00:47:00.239
<v Speaker 4>on these, moments but you know you're doing your job

988
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:01.519
<v Speaker 4>and you've got to be real with, them and they're

989
00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:03.480
<v Speaker 4>probably just it's probably going in one air and out

990
00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:06.159
<v Speaker 4>the other with some of. Them i'm sure most of the.

991
00:47:06.199 --> 00:47:07.800
<v Speaker 5>Time you, know you got to build a, trust, Right,

992
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:10.000
<v Speaker 5>yeah it's like, anything and you get their trust and

993
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:11.320
<v Speaker 5>they know that you're and you, know you got to

994
00:47:11.360 --> 00:47:13.039
<v Speaker 5>give them a. Leash you got to give them a

995
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:15.880
<v Speaker 5>little you got to give them some. Wins you, know

996
00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:18.119
<v Speaker 5>athletes don't want you to tell them they can't do,

997
00:47:18.159 --> 00:47:21.639
<v Speaker 5>anything you, know and the anxiety that comes around that's not.

998
00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:24.000
<v Speaker 4>Working, yeah that'd be a pretty defeated situation to be

999
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:25.719
<v Speaker 4>in if there's not those little wins along the way.

1000
00:47:26.440 --> 00:47:29.159
<v Speaker 5>Exactly, so, hey let's do, this let's let's get you to,

1001
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:31.840
<v Speaker 5>practice let's do these. Things these are your, limitations but

1002
00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:33.920
<v Speaker 5>this is what you can. Do and, really when you're

1003
00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:36.400
<v Speaker 5>getting an athlete back to, sport you want to have

1004
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:40.639
<v Speaker 5>them at their max. Threshold that, way you're closing the

1005
00:47:40.679 --> 00:47:43.679
<v Speaker 5>gap quicker when they're ready to go. PLAY i think

1006
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:46.920
<v Speaker 5>some of my colleagues that may not be in that

1007
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:51.360
<v Speaker 5>world enough cut people back too, far and then when

1008
00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:53.000
<v Speaker 5>you go to try to close the gap to get them,

1009
00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:54.639
<v Speaker 5>back there's too big of a, jump and then they

1010
00:47:54.639 --> 00:47:58.119
<v Speaker 5>may be at risk for a. Setbacks so my the

1011
00:47:58.159 --> 00:47:59.719
<v Speaker 5>WAY i said it, IS i, said where are they

1012
00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:03.199
<v Speaker 5>at right, now and what's, sir maximum threshold THAT i

1013
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:05.960
<v Speaker 5>know they're, safe and THEN i keep raising that threshold

1014
00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:08.199
<v Speaker 5>so that way when we're time to get back to

1015
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:11.159
<v Speaker 5>return to, practice return to, play and turn to. Performance

1016
00:48:11.159 --> 00:48:14.320
<v Speaker 5>that's kind of the levels you go. Through then you

1017
00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:16.719
<v Speaker 5>know we're we're right there and the kid and then

1018
00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:18.880
<v Speaker 5>the athletes can taste, it they can see, it they

1019
00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:21.719
<v Speaker 5>know that there's a process and it's not just they're

1020
00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:23.239
<v Speaker 5>holding me out because you want to be a jerk

1021
00:48:23.320 --> 00:48:24.280
<v Speaker 5>or want to be in.

1022
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:26.920
<v Speaker 4>Control it's almost like a new, competition, right it's a.

1023
00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:29.239
<v Speaker 4>Process it's almost like in you, know developing your, game

1024
00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:32.519
<v Speaker 4>you're developing the recovery. Process now it makes makes total.

1025
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:34.559
<v Speaker 4>Sense that's good. Stuff i've never really thought about. That

1026
00:48:34.599 --> 00:48:36.320
<v Speaker 4>but the high school, LEVEL i can see it being

1027
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:39.519
<v Speaker 4>a much different thing than than college kids and pros as.

1028
00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:41.039
<v Speaker 4>Well so good stuff is Always.

1029
00:48:41.159 --> 00:48:42.519
<v Speaker 5>Nick be honest with. You IF i have a, pro

1030
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:44.480
<v Speaker 5>sorry real. Quickly if you have a, pro they come

1031
00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:46.679
<v Speaker 5>in every, day. Right IF i have a college, athlete

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<v Speaker 5>they're in the training, room they're working out every. Day

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<v Speaker 5>so what happens is as a, kid, right there's a.

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<v Speaker 5>Copay it's expensive sometimes for you, know depending on the

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<v Speaker 5>plan they have other activities and. Obligations their parents are.

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<v Speaker 4>Working, yeah they don't have a ride or.

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<v Speaker 5>Something i'm, right twice or three times a week if we're.

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<v Speaker 5>Lucky but the expectation on, us which is, fine the.

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<v Speaker 5>Same So i'm, like, whoa, well who don't compare yourself

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<v Speaker 5>To lebron or To tatum coming back from his because

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<v Speaker 5>he's in. It he's working every. DAY i saw you

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<v Speaker 5>twice last.

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<v Speaker 4>Week, yeah that makes.

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<v Speaker 5>Sense and you didn't do WHAT i told you to do,

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<v Speaker 5>that you, know so uh, huh you have to and

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<v Speaker 5>we have to be real because that's what they, think you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know and then they's you, know parents will, say well

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<v Speaker 5>what about this. Guy i'm, like you're comparing him to

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<v Speaker 5>a pro a full grown. Man you. Know this kid's fifteen.

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<v Speaker 4>Whose job is to to every day make sure he's prioritizing.

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<v Speaker 4>Recovery whereas a kid's got, school he's got other things going. On,

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<v Speaker 4>yeah different. World eric is always appreciate the. Time great

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<v Speaker 4>to catch up with. You we will do it again,

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<v Speaker 4>soon my.

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<v Speaker 5>Friend, Awesome, nick have it going, man all?

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<v Speaker 4>Right take. Care that's Doctor eric, McElroy prori Ephiscal. Therapy

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<v Speaker 4>always always appreciate his, time good conversation. THERE i always

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<v Speaker 4>learned during those, conversations and that's one that is does

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<v Speaker 4>make total. Sense BUT i never really considered how much

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<v Speaker 4>different it would. Be you, know the objective is always

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<v Speaker 4>the same if it's a if it's a college, player

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<v Speaker 4>if it's a, kid you want to get him, healthy

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<v Speaker 4>you want to get back out. There but, man the

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<v Speaker 4>process can be vastly. Different as you heard there from doctor,

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<v Speaker 4>McElroy quick break will come, back keep this thing rolling.

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<v Speaker 4>Along it's coffee And. Company field By thornton's right here

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<v Speaker 4>On Sports talk seven ninety
