Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Chicks on the Right
Speaker 1: podcast where we get to talk to our friend Zach
Speaker 1: Abraham from Bulwark Capital Management, sponsor of the show.
Speaker 2: Very happy to have him here right ahead of next
Speaker 2: week's election. It's coming, it's happening.
Speaker 1: We're almost there, and I keep telling Daisy and our
Speaker 1: audience that I feel like this is the last few
Speaker 1: days of normalcy before the ship hits the fan. The
Speaker 1: polls are all over the place. What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3: Look is as much as on the line for Tuesday.
Speaker 3: There's a very large event on Saturday that has.
Speaker 4: A lot on the line as well.
Speaker 3: There's a there's a fourth there's a fourth grade football
Speaker 3: championship game happening. O my god, and my boys are
Speaker 3: in the finals.
Speaker 5: So that's amazing.
Speaker 3: So we So I've got all kinds of reasons to
Speaker 3: be on pins and needles right now. So no, it's
Speaker 3: I was telling you guys off air before we started it,
Speaker 3: and I don't want to get into it too much,
Speaker 3: but I don't.
Speaker 4: I've never personally been this nervous for an election.
Speaker 3: Because the implications of this election are going to have
Speaker 3: direct impacts on me and.
Speaker 4: My business.
Speaker 3: In a lot of different ways, and unfortunately, you know,
Speaker 3: I just there's a lot riding on it.
Speaker 5: There's just a lot of us too, we feel that too,
Speaker 5: like from a whole different perspective, like from a free
Speaker 5: speech perspective. And then I guess also financial there's financial
Speaker 5: implications for every small business owner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know there's something and I you know,
Speaker 3: I don't. I can't remember if you and I if
Speaker 3: we if we've talked about it before too. But there's
Speaker 3: there's another real danger that I've run up against, and
Speaker 3: that I think that it's only a matter of time
Speaker 3: until other Americans run up against, which is the proliferation
Speaker 3: of the regulatory state, right, meaning they have become weaponized,
Speaker 3: especially under this administration. And what's so scary about that
Speaker 3: is they are not bound by all of the constitutional
Speaker 3: and judicial laws that govern things.
Speaker 4: They can just come after you.
Speaker 3: They don't need a story, they don't need a reason,
Speaker 3: they don't have a timeline. They can they can just
Speaker 3: And I'm glad people don't have to go up against this,
Speaker 3: but I wish everybody did feel the weight of one
Speaker 3: of those regulatory industries, because you realize quickly into it
Speaker 3: this has nothing to do with whether you were right
Speaker 3: or wrong. This has nothing to do with whether you
Speaker 3: did something right or did something wrong. This has to
Speaker 3: do with them wanting to do what they want to do.
Speaker 3: And it's really that simple.
Speaker 1: So where what's your gut telling you about the I
Speaker 1: mean because Polish moles, right, like, we learned our lesson
Speaker 1: from polls and previous elections that they can't.
Speaker 2: They don't.
Speaker 1: We thought Hillary was a lock, right, and then Trump
Speaker 1: surprised everybody and that was great, But like they're so
Speaker 1: tight right now.
Speaker 2: And I will look at.
Speaker 1: You know, one stream on on X that seems I'll
Speaker 1: get all hype about it, and then I'll see like
Speaker 1: all the doom and gloom in a few other tweets,
Speaker 1: and I just I have no good sense. I don't
Speaker 1: feel a pull either way, do you?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean I think I do. I've had a
Speaker 3: decent I thought Trump was gonna win in sixteen and
Speaker 3: said as much. I didn't say it much because I
Speaker 3: don't think it was a very it would sell well
Speaker 3: with a lot of our people. But I thought Biden
Speaker 3: was going to win in twenty twenty, and I think
Speaker 3: Trump is going to win comfortably.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I like that. Then you're a good predictor.
Speaker 4: And the reason.
Speaker 3: Now, now I say all that and watch, I just
Speaker 3: be horrifically wrong. But to me, I think that the
Speaker 3: campaigns are speaking really loudly. At least to me, one
Speaker 3: campaign looks like they're ride and high.
Speaker 4: The other their campaign looks desperate. And yeah, they looked
Speaker 4: like garbage. Uh.
Speaker 3: And I just think, I mean, you know, I I
Speaker 3: think the garbage thing is a perfect example. Right, A
Speaker 3: comedian said something stupid at a uh at a at
Speaker 3: a rally, and we're going to try to make noise
Speaker 3: out of that. When the sitting president said it about Mary,
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, like it just I just think
Speaker 3: it shows you how ridiculous that they're getting. And I
Speaker 3: think the more petty that they get, I think the
Speaker 3: more desperate it shows that they are. And then and
Speaker 3: then on top of that, it was interesting because you
Speaker 3: know they had that she was at a bar, kamal
Speaker 3: airis is at a bar talking to Gretchen Whitmer or something.
Speaker 4: Did you hear about this?
Speaker 3: And the mic saying something like internal polling isn't looking
Speaker 3: good or we're not doing well.
Speaker 5: For young men with men especially, Yeah.
Speaker 3: And shocker, right, right, I don't. I don't think she's
Speaker 3: doing well with black black young men either. And so
Speaker 3: I just which when I look at the when when
Speaker 3: I look at the demographics, and I just look at
Speaker 3: the country when it's I cannot believe that anybody that
Speaker 3: voted for Trump in twenty twenty would swing to Harris, right, Like,
Speaker 3: I just that's I mean, I'm sure there's one or
Speaker 3: two out there, right, I think that there are considerable
Speaker 3: amount of people they voted for Biden in twenty twenty
Speaker 3: that will swing to Trump.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, I just don't think.
Speaker 3: I don't think there's any way Harris is more popular
Speaker 3: than Biden on a national scale.
Speaker 5: I just yeah, I don't agree with I think I'm
Speaker 5: right there with you on that. But when it comes
Speaker 5: to like when people ask you, like in your line
Speaker 5: of business, if you're just out, you know, yucking it
Speaker 5: up with other people that you do work with, now.
Speaker 2: They're luckety MUCKs, they're muckety MUCKs. It was a yuckty yuck.
Speaker 5: But when you're out, when you're out chit chatting about
Speaker 5: this stuff, if somebody asks you, well, why would why
Speaker 5: would you support Trump? Like what's gonna do for the
Speaker 5: average American, Like, what would your answer be, especially from
Speaker 5: a from the your viewpoint is being doing what you
Speaker 5: do in finance, Like do you do you look at
Speaker 5: it strictly from a finance perspective or do you look
Speaker 5: at other things policy wise?
Speaker 4: So you guys will probably laugh when I say this.
Speaker 4: I kind of have multiple different ways that I look
Speaker 4: at it.
Speaker 3: Right there, there are there are moral aspects to you know,
Speaker 3: Morality certainly guides who I vote for. You know, finance
Speaker 3: economics are obviously a huge driver for me. I tend
Speaker 3: to try to focus on things. I mean, look, everybody
Speaker 3: likes things that will directly benefit them. That tends to
Speaker 3: be the stuff that doesn't sway me as much. Like,
Speaker 3: for instance, everybody was all excited about the Trump tax cuts.
Speaker 3: I knew that those tax cuts were gonna have no
Speaker 3: impact on me, and people like, what do you mean
Speaker 3: they're corporate? Well they only applied to C corpse, so
Speaker 3: they didn't they didn't affect me. So I actually look
Speaker 3: at it, and this is one of my biggest frustrations
Speaker 3: because I really think that this is undeniable. I look
Speaker 3: at it through a kind of a risk management lens. Okay,
Speaker 3: so if I look at the risk of both. If
Speaker 3: I look at the risk of both candidates, right, people
Speaker 3: are the fear, despite four years in office showing absolutely
Speaker 3: no tendencies to go this way.
Speaker 4: The fear with Donald Trump is he wants to be
Speaker 4: a dictator.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's there's absolutely zero evidence and there's a ton
Speaker 3: of evidence pointing in the other direction. And so to me,
Speaker 3: that's like saying you have a fear that he's going
Speaker 3: to turn into like Grimace, you know.
Speaker 4: The character for McDonald's.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to say it's impossible, but.
Speaker 2: He does have work experience there now, so right, exactly.
Speaker 3: And more than his competitor, actually, right, you know, and
Speaker 3: so you know I know what I'm getting there, right.
Speaker 3: And so the other thing is that I think that
Speaker 3: Donald Trump is a very convex.
Speaker 4: Investment or convects bet.
Speaker 3: And what I mean by convex bet is like, what
Speaker 3: is the worst case scenario with Donald Trump? If we're
Speaker 3: not being ridiculous, I think the worst case with Donald
Speaker 3: Trump is that we kind of get more of the same, right,
Speaker 3: And I think he showed through the first four years
Speaker 3: that that's the one thing he's not going to give
Speaker 3: you is more of the same, So I think there's
Speaker 3: considerable upside potentially.
Speaker 4: I look at Kamala Harris, and you know, one of my.
Speaker 3: Biggest issues, and it's going to be always one of
Speaker 3: my biggest issues in an election is the Bill of Rights. Right.
Speaker 4: If we lose the Bill of Rights, we have nothing. Okay.
Speaker 3: One side has mentioned multiple times in public arenas, in
Speaker 3: public forums that the Bill of Rights is one of the.
Speaker 4: Problems that we have, right, Yeah, And to.
Speaker 3: Me, I just feel like every well, what he did
Speaker 3: on January sixth the Capitol, I'm like, d if even
Speaker 3: if your ridiculous rendition of that day is correct, which
Speaker 3: for the record, I don't think it was a smart
Speaker 3: idea for people to go there.
Speaker 4: I never would have been there. I don't. I wasn't
Speaker 4: supportive of it.
Speaker 3: I thought all the way arount Okay, but still you
Speaker 3: were talking about people that are protests that quote unquote
Speaker 3: got out of hand.
Speaker 4: We'll forget about the videotape.
Speaker 3: We have a people police opening the gates and letting
Speaker 3: people through. We'll forget all that, Okay, We'll color it
Speaker 3: the worst way. It could be a bunch of people
Speaker 3: doing something they should have been doing, versus a party
Speaker 3: that is telling you that the Bill of Rights is
Speaker 3: the problem. If you think democracy is more under threat
Speaker 3: under Trump, I don't know what to do.
Speaker 4: I don't know what to tell you, right.
Speaker 2: We say that all the time. I swear, we say some.
Speaker 5: Similar stuff all the time, like we can't help how
Speaker 5: can we help you? And I think a lot of
Speaker 5: it has to do with the fact that these people
Speaker 5: watch the legacy media. And that's the hardest thing. Like
Speaker 5: it's just you know, they watch the media, they believe it.
Speaker 5: And I hope we.
Speaker 2: Pull it out. I hope we pull it out.
Speaker 5: You guys do well.
Speaker 1: And I feel like the by the next time the
Speaker 1: three of us talk, I just can't imagine what will
Speaker 1: be happening in the world, do you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: I just I shudder to think how crazy things might get.
Speaker 2: Regardless of outcome, it's going to be crazy, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just don't. I just don't. I I just
Speaker 4: don't see it.
Speaker 3: I just I think he's gonna win, and I think
Speaker 3: he's gonna win, uh surprisingly comfortably.
Speaker 2: You're right.
Speaker 3: I love that she just hasn't made it, you know,
Speaker 3: like she just hasn't made a case. The other thing
Speaker 3: is is that I think Donald Trump was probably always
Speaker 3: going to have a tough time getting elected in back
Speaker 3: to back elections.
Speaker 4: Right, you need a break, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like and and I you know what, I think peop
Speaker 3: were like, it couldn't get any worse. And I think
Speaker 3: a lot of people are like going, Okay, can you
Speaker 3: get a lot worse?
Speaker 5: It could get worse?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I mean just think of all the
Speaker 3: people that you've heard come out. It kind of reminds
Speaker 3: me of you know, I feel like, you know, Rod
Speaker 3: Blagoyevitch for crying out loud is pounting the table for Trump. Right.
Speaker 4: That's it blows my mind.
Speaker 3: Right, he's telling me that he's telling and he's saying
Speaker 3: to Tucker Carlson that the day or that Daily is
Speaker 3: gonna that he thinks Daily's supporting Trump.
Speaker 4: In this election.
Speaker 5: And then you look at the people that are looking
Speaker 5: at people that are around him. He's got like Elon Rfk,
Speaker 5: Tolcy Gabbard, I mean, all these and then like just
Speaker 5: everybody like Tucker, everybody that is like a that he
Speaker 5: surrounds himself with. Those are the people that we want
Speaker 5: to have on our team, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I you know, I it's just very
Speaker 3: very hard for me to understand. Like you said, I
Speaker 3: I see some of these people that traditionally would be conservative,
Speaker 3: and it's like remember compact discs, how like the disc would.
Speaker 4: Skip, just keep going.
Speaker 3: It's like there, it's like their discs skipped on January sixth,
Speaker 3: and it's just it's all Trump. They believed the CNN thing.
Speaker 3: They can't get it out of their head. Did he
Speaker 3: handle that correctly?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: Did he incite it? No? Did he stubborn? You know?
Speaker 3: Did he like, you know, just taking that and going
Speaker 3: on assault on democracy?
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just ridiculous.
Speaker 5: It's ridiculous, Yeah, it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Hey, thank you ladies.
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