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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Chicks on the Right

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podcast where we get to talk to our friend Zach

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Abraham from Bulwark Capital Management, sponsor of the show.

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Speaker 2: Very happy to have him here right ahead of next

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week's election. It's coming, it's happening.

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Speaker 1: We're almost there, and I keep telling Daisy and our

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audience that I feel like this is the last few

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days of normalcy before the ship hits the fan. The

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polls are all over the place. What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 3: Look is as much as on the line for Tuesday.

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There's a very large event on Saturday that has.

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Speaker 4: A lot on the line as well.

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Speaker 3: There's a there's a fourth there's a fourth grade football

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championship game happening. O my god, and my boys are

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in the finals.

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Speaker 5: So that's amazing.

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Speaker 3: So we So I've got all kinds of reasons to

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be on pins and needles right now. So no, it's

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I was telling you guys off air before we started it,

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and I don't want to get into it too much,

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but I don't.

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Speaker 4: I've never personally been this nervous for an election.

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Speaker 3: Because the implications of this election are going to have

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direct impacts on me and.

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Speaker 4: My business.

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Speaker 3: In a lot of different ways, and unfortunately, you know,

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I just there's a lot riding on it.

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Speaker 5: There's just a lot of us too, we feel that too,

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like from a whole different perspective, like from a free

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speech perspective. And then I guess also financial there's financial

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implications for every small business owner.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know there's something and I you know,

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I don't. I can't remember if you and I if

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we if we've talked about it before too. But there's

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there's another real danger that I've run up against, and

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that I think that it's only a matter of time

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until other Americans run up against, which is the proliferation

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of the regulatory state, right, meaning they have become weaponized,

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especially under this administration. And what's so scary about that

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is they are not bound by all of the constitutional

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and judicial laws that govern things.

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Speaker 4: They can just come after you.

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Speaker 3: They don't need a story, they don't need a reason,

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they don't have a timeline. They can they can just

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And I'm glad people don't have to go up against this,

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but I wish everybody did feel the weight of one

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of those regulatory industries, because you realize quickly into it

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this has nothing to do with whether you were right

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or wrong. This has nothing to do with whether you

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did something right or did something wrong. This has to

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do with them wanting to do what they want to do.

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And it's really that simple.

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Speaker 1: So where what's your gut telling you about the I

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mean because Polish moles, right, like, we learned our lesson

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from polls and previous elections that they can't.

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Speaker 2: They don't.

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Speaker 1: We thought Hillary was a lock, right, and then Trump

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surprised everybody and that was great, But like they're so

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tight right now.

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Speaker 2: And I will look at.

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Speaker 1: You know, one stream on on X that seems I'll

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get all hype about it, and then I'll see like

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all the doom and gloom in a few other tweets,

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and I just I have no good sense. I don't

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feel a pull either way, do you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean I think I do. I've had a

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decent I thought Trump was gonna win in sixteen and

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said as much. I didn't say it much because I

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don't think it was a very it would sell well

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with a lot of our people. But I thought Biden

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was going to win in twenty twenty, and I think

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Trump is going to win comfortably.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I like that. Then you're a good predictor.

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Speaker 4: And the reason.

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Speaker 3: Now, now I say all that and watch, I just

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be horrifically wrong. But to me, I think that the

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campaigns are speaking really loudly. At least to me, one

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campaign looks like they're ride and high.

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Speaker 4: The other their campaign looks desperate. And yeah, they looked

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like garbage. Uh.

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Speaker 3: And I just think, I mean, you know, I I

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think the garbage thing is a perfect example. Right, A

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comedian said something stupid at a uh at a at

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a rally, and we're going to try to make noise

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out of that. When the sitting president said it about Mary,

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I'm like, you know, like it just I just think

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it shows you how ridiculous that they're getting. And I

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think the more petty that they get, I think the

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more desperate it shows that they are. And then and

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then on top of that, it was interesting because you

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know they had that she was at a bar, kamal

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airis is at a bar talking to Gretchen Whitmer or something.

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Speaker 4: Did you hear about this?

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Speaker 3: And the mic saying something like internal polling isn't looking

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good or we're not doing well.

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Speaker 5: For young men with men especially, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And shocker, right, right, I don't. I don't think she's

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doing well with black black young men either. And so

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I just which when I look at the when when

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I look at the demographics, and I just look at

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the country when it's I cannot believe that anybody that

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voted for Trump in twenty twenty would swing to Harris, right, Like,

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I just that's I mean, I'm sure there's one or

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two out there, right, I think that there are considerable

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amount of people they voted for Biden in twenty twenty

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that will swing to Trump.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, I just don't think.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any way Harris is more popular

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than Biden on a national scale.

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Speaker 5: I just yeah, I don't agree with I think I'm

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right there with you on that. But when it comes

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to like when people ask you, like in your line

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of business, if you're just out, you know, yucking it

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up with other people that you do work with, now.

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Speaker 2: They're luckety MUCKs, they're muckety MUCKs. It was a yuckty yuck.

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Speaker 5: But when you're out, when you're out chit chatting about

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this stuff, if somebody asks you, well, why would why

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would you support Trump? Like what's gonna do for the

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average American, Like, what would your answer be, especially from

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a from the your viewpoint is being doing what you

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do in finance, Like do you do you look at

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it strictly from a finance perspective or do you look

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at other things policy wise?

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Speaker 4: So you guys will probably laugh when I say this.

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I kind of have multiple different ways that I look

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at it.

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Speaker 3: Right there, there are there are moral aspects to you know,

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Morality certainly guides who I vote for. You know, finance

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economics are obviously a huge driver for me. I tend

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to try to focus on things. I mean, look, everybody

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likes things that will directly benefit them. That tends to

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be the stuff that doesn't sway me as much. Like,

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for instance, everybody was all excited about the Trump tax cuts.

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I knew that those tax cuts were gonna have no

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impact on me, and people like, what do you mean

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they're corporate? Well they only applied to C corpse, so

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they didn't they didn't affect me. So I actually look

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at it, and this is one of my biggest frustrations

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because I really think that this is undeniable. I look

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at it through a kind of a risk management lens. Okay,

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so if I look at the risk of both. If

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I look at the risk of both candidates, right, people

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are the fear, despite four years in office showing absolutely

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no tendencies to go this way.

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Speaker 4: The fear with Donald Trump is he wants to be

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a dictator.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's there's absolutely zero evidence and there's a ton

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of evidence pointing in the other direction. And so to me,

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that's like saying you have a fear that he's going

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to turn into like Grimace, you know.

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Speaker 4: The character for McDonald's.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to say it's impossible, but.

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Speaker 2: He does have work experience there now, so right, exactly.

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Speaker 3: And more than his competitor, actually, right, you know, and

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so you know I know what I'm getting there, right.

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And so the other thing is that I think that

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Donald Trump is a very convex.

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Speaker 4: Investment or convects bet.

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Speaker 3: And what I mean by convex bet is like, what

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is the worst case scenario with Donald Trump? If we're

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not being ridiculous, I think the worst case with Donald

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Trump is that we kind of get more of the same, right,

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And I think he showed through the first four years

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that that's the one thing he's not going to give

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you is more of the same, So I think there's

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considerable upside potentially.

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Speaker 4: I look at Kamala Harris, and you know, one of my.

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Speaker 3: Biggest issues, and it's going to be always one of

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my biggest issues in an election is the Bill of Rights. Right.

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Speaker 4: If we lose the Bill of Rights, we have nothing. Okay.

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Speaker 3: One side has mentioned multiple times in public arenas, in

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public forums that the Bill of Rights is one of the.

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Speaker 4: Problems that we have, right, Yeah, And to.

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Speaker 3: Me, I just feel like every well, what he did

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on January sixth the Capitol, I'm like, d if even

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if your ridiculous rendition of that day is correct, which

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for the record, I don't think it was a smart

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idea for people to go there.

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Speaker 4: I never would have been there. I don't. I wasn't

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supportive of it.

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Speaker 3: I thought all the way arount Okay, but still you

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were talking about people that are protests that quote unquote

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got out of hand.

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Speaker 4: We'll forget about the videotape.

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Speaker 3: We have a people police opening the gates and letting

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people through. We'll forget all that, Okay, We'll color it

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the worst way. It could be a bunch of people

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doing something they should have been doing, versus a party

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that is telling you that the Bill of Rights is

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the problem. If you think democracy is more under threat

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under Trump, I don't know what to do.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what to tell you, right.

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Speaker 2: We say that all the time. I swear, we say some.

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Speaker 5: Similar stuff all the time, like we can't help how

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can we help you? And I think a lot of

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it has to do with the fact that these people

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watch the legacy media. And that's the hardest thing. Like

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it's just you know, they watch the media, they believe it.

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Speaker 2: Pull it out. I hope we pull it out.

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Speaker 5: You guys do well.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like the by the next time the

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three of us talk, I just can't imagine what will

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be happening in the world, do you know what I mean? Like,

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I just I shudder to think how crazy things might get.

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Speaker 2: Regardless of outcome, it's going to be crazy, you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just don't. I just don't. I I just

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don't see it.

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Speaker 3: I just I think he's gonna win, and I think

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he's gonna win, uh surprisingly comfortably.

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Speaker 2: You're right.

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Speaker 3: I love that she just hasn't made it, you know,

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like she just hasn't made a case. The other thing

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is is that I think Donald Trump was probably always

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going to have a tough time getting elected in back

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to back elections.

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Speaker 4: Right, you need a break, right, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like and and I you know what, I think peop

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were like, it couldn't get any worse. And I think

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a lot of people are like going, Okay, can you

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get a lot worse?

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Speaker 5: It could get worse?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I mean just think of all the

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people that you've heard come out. It kind of reminds

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me of you know, I feel like, you know, Rod

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Blagoyevitch for crying out loud is pounting the table for Trump. Right.

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Speaker 4: That's it blows my mind.

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Speaker 3: Right, he's telling me that he's telling and he's saying

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to Tucker Carlson that the day or that Daily is

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gonna that he thinks Daily's supporting Trump.

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Speaker 4: In this election.

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Speaker 5: And then you look at the people that are looking

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at people that are around him. He's got like Elon Rfk,

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Tolcy Gabbard, I mean, all these and then like just

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everybody like Tucker, everybody that is like a that he

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surrounds himself with. Those are the people that we want

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to have on our team, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I you know, I it's just very

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I see some of these people that traditionally would be conservative,

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and it's like remember compact discs, how like the disc would.

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Speaker 4: Skip, just keep going.

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Speaker 3: It's like there, it's like their discs skipped on January sixth,

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and it's just it's all Trump. They believed the CNN thing.

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They can't get it out of their head. Did he

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handle that correctly?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 4: Did he incite it? No? Did he stubborn? You know?

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Speaker 3: Did he like, you know, just taking that and going

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on assault on democracy?

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just ridiculous.

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Speaker 5: It's ridiculous, Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, we always appreciate your perspective and we always tell

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people that if they need financial advice that you are

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the guy.

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Speaker 2: So how can people find you for that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? So pretty easy. Go to Boardcapitalmanagement dot com.

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Speaker 3: We've got our last risk seminar coming up, i think

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on November twenty first, and you know, just Google Know

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your Risk radio podcast that'll hook you up to the

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Speaker 4: So pretty easy.

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Speaker 2: Awesome, great, thank you, exappreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Hey, thank you ladies.

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Speaker 5: Fingers crossed yes in toes yes Yes Thanks.

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