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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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<v Speaker 1>this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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<v Speaker 1>you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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<v Speaker 1>something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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<v Speaker 1>quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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<v Speaker 1>To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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<v Speaker 1>just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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<v Speaker 1>So stay with us, all right, pick the Society. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got the privilege of talking to Eric today. Eric is

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<v Speaker 1>an outdoorsman from just outside the Willamette National Forest, in

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<v Speaker 1>an area that's between sisters in Eugene. I had the

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<v Speaker 1>pleasure of meeting Eric at the first Sasquatch Summer Fest

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<v Speaker 1>in Oakridge, Oregon, July of twenty twenty four, just for

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<v Speaker 1>future listeners, and we had a good chat. Then we've

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<v Speaker 1>been keeping in touch over the last year or so

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<v Speaker 1>and there's been some really interesting things that been happening

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<v Speaker 1>to Eric up where he's at. Welcome to the show, Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you doing today, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great, Jeremiah. Thanks for thanks for having me

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<v Speaker 2>and good to talk to you again.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, it's a thing where I remember when I was

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<v Speaker 1>talking to you down there in Oakridge, and I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>someday we're going to have a We got to have

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<v Speaker 1>a chat with Eric on the show, and I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>that it finally happened. But we definitely have a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of ground to cover today. Feel free to take us

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<v Speaker 1>back to when you first started experiencing Bigfoot related interactions.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit of history. Raised my kids here in

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<v Speaker 2>the Northwest. I'm an older gentleman now, but the wife

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<v Speaker 2>introduced me to camping. We met in high school and

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<v Speaker 2>that was my first opportunity to ever camp in the Northwest.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd actually have run around in the woods.

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<v Speaker 2>I was fortunate to live next to some state woodland,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I actually had free run and the last

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<v Speaker 2>of seven kids, so the folks gave me they were

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<v Speaker 2>ready to retire from kids, so they didn't keep too

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<v Speaker 2>close an eye on me. So that gave me a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of time in the wilds. And so I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>my kids to have the same opportunity to be out

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<v Speaker 2>out in the woods, so we did a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Of bundok camping.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we had one opportunity to stay at a

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<v Speaker 2>state park, but other than that, we were always out

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<v Speaker 2>in the wild. But it wasn't until after they grew

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<v Speaker 2>up and went out on their own. I don't recollect

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<v Speaker 2>any sort of weird incident, any sort of situation that

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<v Speaker 2>would make me question their safety, my safety, or if

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<v Speaker 2>anything was out there, not even any bear. But later

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<v Speaker 2>on the wife and I we love camping, and so we.

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<v Speaker 3>Got a couple of I got my first jeep, Rubicon.

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<v Speaker 2>Outfitted it rooftop ten and I built a utility trailer

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<v Speaker 2>and outfitted it with everything you would need for living

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<v Speaker 2>out in the wilderness for a while. And so we

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<v Speaker 2>started started heading out deeper and deeper into the Willamett

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<v Speaker 2>National Forest, and we spent a lot of time way

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<v Speaker 2>out where people don't go. That was the whole point

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<v Speaker 2>of getting the jeeps. We camp year round, rain, snow, summer.

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<v Speaker 2>The first real eyebrow raising situation was late October twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two. The wife and I alone went up into

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<v Speaker 2>the Sant Diem that's part of the Willamett National Forests.

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<v Speaker 2>So this little quartz creek. You follow it on up

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<v Speaker 2>and it goes way back. I believe it goes all

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<v Speaker 2>the way up into the cast does go into the

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<v Speaker 2>Cascade Range, but where its origins exactly are, I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But we were way back up in there and found

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<v Speaker 2>a beautiful little spot. All of the year, the maples

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<v Speaker 2>and all the trees are turning color, and just found

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<v Speaker 2>this beautiful spot and it was a flat area. So

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<v Speaker 2>I set up our wall tent, got the stove going.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a creek bed below us about twenty thirty feet,

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<v Speaker 2>so we had clean water. And so that first first

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<v Speaker 2>night we call it a night early. It was already dark,

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<v Speaker 2>but I could hear whistling up on the hillside. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>it's heavily wooded with Douglas fir and maple and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>But the whistle was very sharp, very clear, very powerful,

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<v Speaker 2>and came up from the hillside.

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<v Speaker 3>We're in at that point, a very.

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<v Speaker 2>Narrow canyon, and swhistle just echoed through the canyon and

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't disconcerting. I just didn't know what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>And every once in a while there'd be a whistle

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<v Speaker 2>up on the hillside. And I'm a light sleeper, the wife.

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<v Speaker 2>She doesn't hear so good, so she fell asleep. I

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<v Speaker 2>fell asleep, and I woke up to more whistling, but

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<v Speaker 2>this time it was the same place up on the hillside.

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<v Speaker 2>But then a return whistle came from the creek bed

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<v Speaker 2>below us.

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<v Speaker 3>And man, that's communication.

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<v Speaker 2>That's strange. I don't know what's at that time, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know what was causing it, of course, but then

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<v Speaker 2>I started hearing rocks getting turned over in the creek bed,

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<v Speaker 2>and some of those rocks were the size where I

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<v Speaker 2>could actually feel them. I'm on a cot in a

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<v Speaker 2>tent twenty five ish feet above the creek bed, and

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<v Speaker 2>I could feel these rocks getting turned over, and the

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<v Speaker 2>whistles go back and forth. Every few minutes, there'd be

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<v Speaker 2>a whistle up above and then down below in the

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<v Speaker 2>creek bed. And then I'm realizing. At first I was

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<v Speaker 2>thinking bear bit the bear, although they don't hibernate that

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<v Speaker 2>time of year, but they really don't hibernate in this area.

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<v Speaker 2>That I wasn't really thinking. I didn't know what to think, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>but I knew something was going on, something powerful, because

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<v Speaker 2>I could feel these rocks.

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<v Speaker 3>Getting rolled around back and forth.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I'm realizing the whistle up above is a

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<v Speaker 2>lookout and the family or whoever is down in the

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<v Speaker 2>creek dead collecting dinner, and they're going after crayfish snails.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's lots of stuff, lots of fish and little

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<v Speaker 2>fish in that creek. So I'm thinking they're the ones

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<v Speaker 2>watching out making sure we don't come out of the

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<v Speaker 2>tent or do anything, do anything stupid. Well, the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of them eat their meal and didn't feel any threat,

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<v Speaker 2>no fear, no nothing, no smell, no no. I honestly

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<v Speaker 2>fell back asleep and I woke up. It was some

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<v Speaker 2>time later, but I woke up, and I woke up

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<v Speaker 2>to footfalls right next to my wall tent. I had

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<v Speaker 2>a canvas military canvas tent that turned not tent tarp

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<v Speaker 2>that I laid down to keep the inside of the

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<v Speaker 2>tent plane while it extended out by about five feet

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<v Speaker 2>outside the tent, And something was walking past the tent

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<v Speaker 2>on that tarp. I could hear the footfalls tarp. And

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<v Speaker 2>so that next morning I woke up and you told

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<v Speaker 2>the wife about it, and why didn't you.

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<v Speaker 3>Wake me up? You were sleeping.

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<v Speaker 2>But that was really And then nothing happened at that site.

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<v Speaker 2>After that, I did look around the next morning at

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<v Speaker 2>the trail and there wasn't anything obvious. Look down in

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<v Speaker 2>the creek bed. Obviously some of the rocks had been

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<v Speaker 2>turned over, some of the sizeable rocks had been turned

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<v Speaker 2>over a bit. Again, nothing to indicate what it was

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<v Speaker 2>or who it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Eric, that's an intense first experience. Are you able

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<v Speaker 1>to not to put you on the spot, but are

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<v Speaker 1>you able to try to do a rep Maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>was something that sounded like the kind of whistle that

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<v Speaker 1>you were hearing. Is that anything you're able to replicate?

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<v Speaker 2>Gosh, I suck at whistling, I really do. I'm jealous

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<v Speaker 2>of people who can really whist allowed. But it was

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<v Speaker 2>a high pitched, very sharp, very powerful whistle. And I've

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<v Speaker 2>hunted elk. I know what an elk sounds like when

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<v Speaker 2>it squeals, whistles, whatever it is they do. It was

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<v Speaker 2>nothing like a and you could tell it was far

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<v Speaker 2>enough up on the hillside. It was the ways up there,

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<v Speaker 2>but yet the whistle was sharp and clear. You could

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<v Speaker 2>definitely hear it down where we were at. And I really,

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<v Speaker 2>again I was just baffled as to what was actually happening.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think By the end of that night, I

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<v Speaker 2>had a pretty clear idea that, you know, what was

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<v Speaker 2>up there was probably a family unit of bigfoot sasquatch,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you want to call them. I didn't have any evidence,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're laying in bed in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 2>night and you can hear these things happening.

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<v Speaker 3>A bear. We don't have any bear that big round here.

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<v Speaker 2>To roll rocks of that size over there. Was It

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<v Speaker 2>just seemed like something would need to have hands and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of power behind those hands to roll those

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<v Speaker 2>walks over.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, did it sound anything like I'm going to try

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<v Speaker 1>it on my side. I'm just curious because I'm curious

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<v Speaker 1>if it sounded like something I heard. Was it like a.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>But it it was longer, sharper, very powerful. It's nothing

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<v Speaker 2>I could even come close to replicating.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, guys, yes, I think very similar to that.

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<v Speaker 1>So similar, but not. It wasn't a type of deal

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<v Speaker 1>where it was like replicating a bird sound or a

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<v Speaker 1>bird call.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, not at all. Gotcha? All right? Cool?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's Listeners can listen to the Oakridge episodes I've done.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to retell that story now, but sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>they replicate bird calls. We heard that in Oakridge, So

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<v Speaker 1>that's why can you give me an estimate of it?

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<v Speaker 1>Not to give you know anything away, but like how

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<v Speaker 1>far back did you have to drive to get to

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<v Speaker 1>this area where you're at? Was it really far away

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<v Speaker 1>from the main road where this area is?

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<v Speaker 2>Gosh, yeah, we're probably thirty forty miles back in there.

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<v Speaker 3>We had never camped that far back in before.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, we had always had the kids, and

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted the kids to experience wilderness, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to take them so far out that if something happened,

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<v Speaker 2>we couldn't get too medic or you got kids, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't get too dumb. But a couple of old people,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't worry about it too much. Really nature, So

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<v Speaker 2>we the older we get, the further we venture out. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>we get brave and get out there. And that's the

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<v Speaker 2>whole point of the rigs and the outfitting them like

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<v Speaker 2>we do so that if something does happen, we've got

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much the gear to handle medical situation too. We

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<v Speaker 2>could probably live out of what we've outfitted in our

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<v Speaker 2>rigs for probably thirty days easy. So if we get

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<v Speaker 2>stranded in the snow, we've got fuel, we've got different

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<v Speaker 2>cooking methods. We've got two different tents. We've got the

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<v Speaker 2>rooftop tent, have the wall tent with the camp stove

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<v Speaker 2>or a wood stove. We've got two different camp stoves

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<v Speaker 2>on board gallons of white fuel form. Were outfitted pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>We get out there and that was probably one of

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<v Speaker 2>the first times we had the tent and the stove.

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<v Speaker 3>I had just built those. So we.

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<v Speaker 1>Were out there, and I think in Pacific Northwest the

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<v Speaker 1>PNW listeners will get that. I don't know if all

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<v Speaker 1>the listeners will get that. So you have to be

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<v Speaker 1>aware that. For example, when I was driving out in

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<v Speaker 1>areas like this last July, I was driving from let's

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<v Speaker 1>say Eugene over to Sisters or up to Detroit, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're not seeing any There's like maybe one ranger you

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<v Speaker 1>see that, there's no police officers. It's like you are

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<v Speaker 1>literally in charge of keeping yourself, like you got to

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<v Speaker 1>way that Eric is doing it, I think that's a

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<v Speaker 1>super smart move. You're the only one that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>You're not going to be available to rely on calling

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<v Speaker 1>nine to one one. Really, in this first encounter, did

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<v Speaker 1>the point where you're like, I'm not really sure what

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<v Speaker 3>Either.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I suspected it was probably Bigfoot. I just wanted

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<v Speaker 3>And I've got a work construction. So all.

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<v Speaker 2>All of these guys hunt and are out in the wilderness.

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<v Speaker 2>So I asked them if they had any similar experiences,

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<v Speaker 2>and on the face of it, nobody would say anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I described the whistle to them and they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's an elk. No, I'm sorry, it wasn't an elk.

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<v Speaker 2>Although elk are very powerful their lung capacity just man

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<v Speaker 2>that whistle or whistles back and forth. They were very powerful,

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<v Speaker 2>that an elk isn't gonna kick rocks over rocks the

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<v Speaker 2>size of a a chair figure. These things were rumbling

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<v Speaker 2>the ground as they rolled away. But no, the main

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<v Speaker 2>focus was just camping. I enjoy it, we love it.

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<v Speaker 2>And although this was a weird experience, it was the

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<v Speaker 2>only real experience we've had so.

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<v Speaker 3>There was it was just okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving on yep, moving on absolutely. So then after this,

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<v Speaker 2>So shortly after that? So that happened in October. In

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<v Speaker 2>November of that year, we got a pretty heavy snowfall

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<v Speaker 2>up the McKenzie River valley here and I had I

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<v Speaker 2>snow zone and try out the wall tent in the snow.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I had.

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<v Speaker 2>Cooked up a turkey and got all the goodies together

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<v Speaker 3>So I headed up and I think it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Gosh around forty eight hundred feet by the time I

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<v Speaker 2>finally got into snow that I couldn't plow through with

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<v Speaker 3>I found a nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Flat area and I realized that the wall tint isn't

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<v Speaker 2>actually going to cut it, and it was already getting

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<v Speaker 2>dark by the time I had made where I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to camp. So I decided I'll throw the water

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<v Speaker 2>up the rooftop tent up. So I got it all

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<v Speaker 2>set up in the same setting. I had a creek

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<v Speaker 2>bed that was blow me. I could hear it surrounded

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<v Speaker 2>by Doug fur and so I couldn't really see the

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<v Speaker 2>creek bed, but I could hear it down There was

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<v Speaker 2>probably thirty fifty feet below me. And then to the

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<v Speaker 2>other side of the flat was a steep mountain side

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<v Speaker 2>that went up at a pretty aggressive angle. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>getting set up and it's getting darker and darker. I

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<v Speaker 2>got a bunch of flashlights. I didn't want to trip

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<v Speaker 2>and stumble, so I positioned these flashlights in kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a perimeter around just so I could walk around and

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<v Speaker 2>not trip over something. And made my dinner and crawled

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<v Speaker 2>up in the rooftop tent and called it a night.

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought, I don't think there's bear that if

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<v Speaker 2>I hear something because I left, I'm sorry. I left

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<v Speaker 2>the soup what was left of it on the on

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<v Speaker 2>the cookstove. I thought, man, I should put that away,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was still hot, so I just figured out

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<v Speaker 2>this lot of cool out there. I don't think I

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<v Speaker 2>knew there was a cougar in the area. I saw

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<v Speaker 2>the tracks, but I didn't see any bear track or

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<v Speaker 2>anything like that.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just figured, yeah, if.

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<v Speaker 2>I hear one older shoe shit away, And then I

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<v Speaker 2>heard it. It was a whistle way up on the hillside,

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<v Speaker 2>just like the one before. A sharp crisp echoed through

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<v Speaker 2>the area, and then a return down in the creek,

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<v Speaker 2>the exact same scenario.

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<v Speaker 3>I camp my whole life.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never heard this before, never experienced this before, and now,

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<v Speaker 2>basically a month apart, it's happening again.

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<v Speaker 3>And so.

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<v Speaker 2>I listened to it, same thing, and I could hear

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<v Speaker 2>the rocks getting turned over in the creek bed, and

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<v Speaker 2>you could hear them rumbling, and but you know, no vocalization,

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<v Speaker 2>no no screaming, no yelling, just a whistle back and forth.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was tired, so I fell asleep. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>light sleeper, but I love my sleep. So the cool

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<v Speaker 2>mountain air it was, I don't know, somewhere around twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five degrees, and I sleep really well in the cold.

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<v Speaker 3>So I fell asleep, and I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>What time it was, early morning, probably two three o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning. I woke up from a dead sleep

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<v Speaker 2>to the most horrific smell I've ever smelled in my life,

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<v Speaker 2>and it cracks me up every time somebody tries to

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<v Speaker 2>describe it for me. If you've ever been around like

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<v Speaker 2>a farm animal or a dog that has an infection

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<v Speaker 2>and it's in the fur, and so you just have

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<v Speaker 2>this very pungent, very rough smell. And I was laying

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<v Speaker 2>there awake, and I could smell this. It was just saturating,

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<v Speaker 2>and like I said, it woke me up from a

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<v Speaker 2>dead sleep. And I had left my lights on in

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<v Speaker 2>that perimeter around the vehicle, and I thought, man, what

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<v Speaker 2>is going on? And all of a sudden, the light

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<v Speaker 2>that I had placed on the front driver's side bumper

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<v Speaker 2>of my.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeep, it was picked up.

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<v Speaker 2>And keep in mind, I can't really see out I've

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<v Speaker 2>got everything zipped up and didn't hear anything, but the

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<v Speaker 2>flashlight got picked up and was shining around, and then

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<v Speaker 2>it shined across the tent itself, and fully I got

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<v Speaker 2>something out there, and again the whistling rolling rocks. This

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<v Speaker 2>time there's this smell and something is articulating. This is

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<v Speaker 2>picking up this flashlight, and I thought, man, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to slowly and zip one of the windows so I

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<v Speaker 2>could get a look. I knew that the second I

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<v Speaker 2>make noise, whatever's out there is going to scatter. So

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<v Speaker 2>I just laid there and listened, and it eventually went away,

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<v Speaker 2>and I fell asleep again, and when I woke up

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<v Speaker 2>later that morning, it was raining ice, and I knew

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<v Speaker 2>that was not good because the snow was deep enough

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<v Speaker 2>where it was going to be with a sheet of

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<v Speaker 2>ice on top of that, it was going to be troubled.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got up and quickly started breaking down camp.

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<v Speaker 2>And although I didn't look for tracks intentionally, I did.

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<v Speaker 3>I did glance around to see I saw nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>I had stomped the snow down pretty good, but my

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<v Speaker 2>intention was to not get myself into trouble and get

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<v Speaker 2>stuck up there, because honestly, nobody knew I was up there,

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<v Speaker 2>which kind of dumb. But in any case, I got

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<v Speaker 2>camp packed up and headed down the mountain, and even

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<v Speaker 2>inside the cab of the jeep, which was sealed up,

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<v Speaker 2>I could smell this thing, and I'm like, man, this

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<v Speaker 2>is rough. But on the way back to where I lived,

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<v Speaker 2>I got to thinking, if if I can smell this

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<v Speaker 2>as good as I do, I wonder what a dog

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<v Speaker 2>would do. And so my daughter and my son in

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<v Speaker 2>law they have two German shepherds. So I got my

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<v Speaker 2>son in law on the phone. I'm like, hey, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to try something, I said, and he said, don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to see how your dogs react to something.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't really fill him in on what I was

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<v Speaker 2>up to. And the closer I got to their house,

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<v Speaker 2>the more I thought about it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I called him back.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, hey, so when I get there, have your

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<v Speaker 2>dogs on their leash and hang on, hang on to them.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how they're going to react. He's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I'm like, man, I'm serious. So I pull

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<v Speaker 2>up in front of their house, call them again, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here.

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<v Speaker 3>Make sure you got your hands on dogs. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I go up to the door and then the

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<v Speaker 2>dog scrambled to the door because I hear somebody at

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<v Speaker 2>the door, of course, and he opens the door. He

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have his hands on the dogs, and the male

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<v Speaker 2>extremely aggressive. I've never seen him like that. He's an

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<v Speaker 2>aggressive dog anyway, but he got a whiff of that

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<v Speaker 2>and just.

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<v Speaker 3>Went crazy, lunged at me.

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<v Speaker 2>Was just going crazy, and the other dog, she was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of holding back. She really didn't react too much.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got her and I thought I took her

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<v Speaker 2>over to the jeep and opened up the jeep and

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<v Speaker 2>see if she reacted or could smell anything, But she

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<v Speaker 2>didn't really, she didn't really care. But the male dog,

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<v Speaker 2>he was of course, he's the alpha, he's he was

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<v Speaker 2>protecting the family, and he knew what that smell was.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was I'm sorry that that was the end

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<v Speaker 3>of that one, real real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never stayed in the rooftop ten I for they

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<v Speaker 1>freaked me out a little bit. But when you were

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<v Speaker 1>up there and then, man, I can't imagine being up

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<v Speaker 1>there realizing something has my flashlight and then it because

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<v Speaker 1>it's like what happens if it starts pushing the jeep

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<v Speaker 1>or it like pushes it over, like you're done.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the thought never crossed my mind. And I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>feel threatened at all at all in both these encounters.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just again, it just I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>it's accurate or not, but it just seemed like a

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<v Speaker 2>family unit and they they were doing their thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>was doing my thing, and so it wasn't it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily a hostile situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, yeah, absolutely I didn't feel a threat. They didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>The smell was overwhelming. That was the only thing that

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<v Speaker 2>was shocking. I've never I've smelled horses and animals that

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<v Speaker 2>have serious infections and they smell pretty rough and that's

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<v Speaker 2>the big part of what that kind of smell was

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<v Speaker 2>really rough.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh did you get that flashlight back? Was there anything

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<v Speaker 1>weird with the flashlight? When you got it back?

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<v Speaker 2>I did it set it back down on my bumper

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much in the same position that it had found it,

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<v Speaker 2>And they didn't, near as I can tell anyway, they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't mess with my dinner. They didn't mess with any

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<v Speaker 2>of the other flashlights or any of the other gear

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<v Speaker 2>I had sitting out, so near as I can tell,

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<v Speaker 2>it was just curious about the flashlight.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a huge point is really it was more curious

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<v Speaker 1>than it was hungry, which is that's pretty cool to

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<v Speaker 1>think about. I didn't even touch your turkey soup.

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<v Speaker 2>August of the following year, twenty twenty three, eight canyon

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<v Speaker 2>was now on the bucket list, and we packed up

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<v Speaker 2>the jeep and the wife and I hit it up

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<v Speaker 2>to a Mount Saint Helens. I had looked at the

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<v Speaker 2>area to find the best possible camp I could find,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I always have a plan B and Plan

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<v Speaker 2>C in case the primary fails, which in this particular

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<v Speaker 2>case it did. They had a gate across one of

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<v Speaker 2>the access points, so that was out. But we did

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<v Speaker 2>end up staying at the foot of eight Canyon, and

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<v Speaker 2>so we set up camp and I can't necessarily I

423
00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:53.640
<v Speaker 2>don't know what did this, but it was interesting. I'm

424
00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:57.759
<v Speaker 2>going to note it anyway. But that evening I was

425
00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:01.279
<v Speaker 2>We looked around all day and found a good place

426
00:28:01.319 --> 00:28:05.599
<v Speaker 2>to camp and settled in. I was grumpy because the

427
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:08.960
<v Speaker 2>gate was closed and I couldn't get to our primary.

428
00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:13.079
<v Speaker 2>All of the secondary was really nice too, but I

429
00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:17.799
<v Speaker 2>was grumpy, and I had set up kind of late.

430
00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:24.480
<v Speaker 2>It was already getting dark, and so on the trailer

431
00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:27.720
<v Speaker 2>that I built, I've got a countertop that I can

432
00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:30.359
<v Speaker 2>put out, and so I set up the stoves and

433
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:38.279
<v Speaker 2>started preparing two steaks. And so I had opened this

434
00:28:39.519 --> 00:28:45.440
<v Speaker 2>package of steaks and pulled out two steaks out of

435
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:51.880
<v Speaker 2>a package of six, and I got my back to

436
00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:59.480
<v Speaker 2>the woodline and I heard a growl and it was

437
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:01.319
<v Speaker 2>a deep, guttur old growl.

438
00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:07.240
<v Speaker 3>Bear. I didn't know what it was, but.

439
00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:13.319
<v Speaker 2>I turned around and looked, and I had a flashlight

440
00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:18.240
<v Speaker 2>on me. I scanned the woodline. Nothing, So I want

441
00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:21.920
<v Speaker 2>to get dinner done, so I turned back around and

442
00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:27.839
<v Speaker 2>a few seconds later, this thing starts growling again. I

443
00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:29.839
<v Speaker 2>shine the woodlight the woodline again.

444
00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:30.319
<v Speaker 3>Nothing.

445
00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:35.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't see anything, no eye shine, no nothing. I

446
00:29:35.079 --> 00:29:40.000
<v Speaker 2>turn around and start working on my stakes again, putting

447
00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:42.839
<v Speaker 2>seasoning on, and I hear the growl again. By this time,

448
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:46.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, this isn't going to stop. I grab a

449
00:29:46.119 --> 00:29:49.160
<v Speaker 2>flashlight and head over to the tree line. I'm walking

450
00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:52.640
<v Speaker 2>to the tree line this time and kind of rushing it,

451
00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:56.000
<v Speaker 2>trying to listen to see if I can hear anything

452
00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:57.599
<v Speaker 2>breaking brush or whatever.

453
00:29:57.720 --> 00:29:58.039
<v Speaker 3>Nothing.

454
00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:02.279
<v Speaker 2>I didn't hear anything breaking brush, didn't see anything. I'm

455
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:06.359
<v Speaker 2>looking pretty intently at this point to see what's there,

456
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:11.680
<v Speaker 2>and nothing like all right. So I go back to

457
00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:16.440
<v Speaker 2>my stakes and I look over in that package of

458
00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:20.039
<v Speaker 2>steaks that I had there. There's one of them missing.

459
00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:27.039
<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't the first one that you could easily grab.

460
00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:34.039
<v Speaker 2>It was one that was under the cellophane behind the

461
00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:37.319
<v Speaker 2>first stake of the second of the four remaining steaks.

462
00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:42.480
<v Speaker 2>Something had to have lifted that cellophane and grab that

463
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:43.799
<v Speaker 2>that steak at it there.

464
00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:47.119
<v Speaker 3>And the growling stop. Never heard it again.

465
00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:51.559
<v Speaker 2>So something growling in the woodline got my attention. While

466
00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:56.000
<v Speaker 2>something went over there and grabbed one of the steaks.

467
00:30:57.160 --> 00:30:57.799
<v Speaker 3>Patty was there.

468
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:01.599
<v Speaker 2>She didn't hear anything, completely oblivious to the whole situation.

469
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:07.599
<v Speaker 3>Wow, weird, And so that was.

470
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I can't attribute that to anything. I have no idea.

471
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I don't know. I don't even know what to

472
00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:14.799
<v Speaker 2>chalk that one up to.

473
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:15.640
<v Speaker 3>Just a weird one.

474
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:19.359
<v Speaker 2>But eight Canyon is off the bucket list now, So

475
00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:20.160
<v Speaker 2>we got that done.

476
00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:22.279
<v Speaker 1>You got that out of there. So was it hard

477
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:24.200
<v Speaker 1>to get down to where you guys camped because you

478
00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:26.240
<v Speaker 1>said it was the like down at the base.

479
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:31.279
<v Speaker 3>No, we were just in that particular case.

480
00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:34.599
<v Speaker 2>We were it was just a bucketless item, so we

481
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:37.359
<v Speaker 2>just camped. It was on one of the back roads,

482
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:41.960
<v Speaker 2>so it was just off a forest service road.

483
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:43.599
<v Speaker 3>So it was just like.

484
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Old staging area for like fier equipment or something like that.

485
00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:54.640
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't anything fancy, but.

486
00:31:57.000 --> 00:32:00.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was beautiful up there. It was awesome. That was.

487
00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Again, I wasn't scared this thing was growling, but it wasn't.

488
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:10.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, just it wasn't like I don't think

489
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:12.200
<v Speaker 2>it was trying to scare me as much as get

490
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:14.480
<v Speaker 2>my attention to get me away from those steaks so

491
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:17.039
<v Speaker 2>something else could get in there and grab one of

492
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:17.640
<v Speaker 2>the steaks.

493
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:21.119
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of weird, absolutely, and it really lines up

494
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:27.240
<v Speaker 1>with you hear these common threads where sometimes they'll be

495
00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:29.839
<v Speaker 1>more than one. They'll try to get your attention over

496
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:32.440
<v Speaker 1>to another area so that one could get away or

497
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:37.000
<v Speaker 1>in this case steal your food, which is that's wild man.

498
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:39.200
<v Speaker 1>That would have messed with me for a long time.

499
00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:43.759
<v Speaker 1>When you're in a situation where something had to have

500
00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:46.880
<v Speaker 1>hands in order to do what it did, I think

501
00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:50.440
<v Speaker 1>that really does change you. But very cool story, very

502
00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:54.839
<v Speaker 1>cool area, the Ape Canyon area. But y'all feel free

503
00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:56.039
<v Speaker 1>to continue.

504
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:59.720
<v Speaker 3>Eric Fall.

505
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:03.480
<v Speaker 2>So it was October of twenty twenty four. We're back

506
00:33:03.559 --> 00:33:08.079
<v Speaker 2>up the McKinsey River Valley. We had a fire that year.

507
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:10.759
<v Speaker 2>Pretty much got a fire every year now it seems.

508
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:15.960
<v Speaker 2>But by October the fire was out and the most

509
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:19.240
<v Speaker 2>of the equipment and the manpower everybody had moved out.

510
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:22.160
<v Speaker 2>The wife and I we jumped in the rig to

511
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:26.839
<v Speaker 2>hit some of the back for service roads just measure

512
00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:32.759
<v Speaker 2>the damage and see what areas were affected, what wasn't.

513
00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:36.160
<v Speaker 2>And some of it was pretty shocking. Some of it

514
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:42.200
<v Speaker 2>was intact, which was really good as forest fires are

515
00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:47.000
<v Speaker 2>very disconcerting. This one was pretty close to where we

516
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:52.240
<v Speaker 2>are and so it keeps the anxiety high all year,

517
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:57.720
<v Speaker 2>or not all year, but all summer long. So we

518
00:33:57.759 --> 00:34:01.519
<v Speaker 2>got up in back up in there, and as we're

519
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:05.799
<v Speaker 2>headed back in there, I look over and here's an

520
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:12.440
<v Speaker 2>area of devastation. But it's not devastation by fire. It's trees,

521
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:18.000
<v Speaker 2>not old growth, not huge trees. But they were probably

522
00:34:18.960 --> 00:34:23.320
<v Speaker 2>six to eight inch diameter trees that were snapped off.

523
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:26.719
<v Speaker 2>Some of them were like pulled out of the ground.

524
00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:30.719
<v Speaker 2>Some of them were broke off. Measured at fourteen feet

525
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:34.639
<v Speaker 2>up in the air. They were broke off, And I

526
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:38.000
<v Speaker 2>walked back in there because it was just so odd.

527
00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:42.280
<v Speaker 2>I actually walked back in there and see if they

528
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:45.000
<v Speaker 2>were sawcat, if machinery had pushed them down.

529
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:49.000
<v Speaker 3>This whole area, which was probably the size of a.

530
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Maybe half a football field, There wasn't anything really standing.

531
00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:58.360
<v Speaker 2>They were leaning over on each other. Some of them

532
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:01.440
<v Speaker 2>were just pushed over onto other ones, but the whole

533
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:09.199
<v Speaker 2>thing was surrounded by standing trees. There were there was

534
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:11.360
<v Speaker 2>the trees were so close. You're not going to get

535
00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:15.320
<v Speaker 2>equipment in there. And even if you could, the trees

536
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:19.199
<v Speaker 2>were not They weren't damaged in such a way as

537
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:23.039
<v Speaker 2>where a grappler or a saw or anything left marks

538
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:23.840
<v Speaker 2>on it.

539
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:26.119
<v Speaker 3>None of this was saw cut.

540
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:31.800
<v Speaker 2>It was all just snapped off and just a very

541
00:35:33.199 --> 00:35:35.039
<v Speaker 2>bizarre and realistic scene.

542
00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:36.320
<v Speaker 3>There was.

543
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Really no way, even wind surrounded. Although it is on

544
00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:50.280
<v Speaker 2>a hillside, we hadn't had any wind, definitely no snowlad

545
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:54.119
<v Speaker 2>because this was going in to fall. It wasn't a

546
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:57.480
<v Speaker 2>snowlad issue. So it was like something got in there

547
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:00.280
<v Speaker 2>and through a temper tantrum is the best way I

548
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:05.800
<v Speaker 2>describe it, and just walk back to the jeep. And

549
00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:09.239
<v Speaker 2>we traveled on around to see where the fire actually

550
00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:15.960
<v Speaker 2>had burned, and on our way back down and has been.

551
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:19.840
<v Speaker 3>My go to just for.

552
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:25.440
<v Speaker 2>Just for giggles, I'll stop in a remote area like

553
00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:30.760
<v Speaker 2>that and shut the rig down and I'll whoop.

554
00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:33.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know why, I don't know where I picked

555
00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:34.239
<v Speaker 3>it up.

556
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:37.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't even remember when I started doing it. But

557
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:41.719
<v Speaker 2>so we pull up there and I'm sorry, we're back

558
00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:44.800
<v Speaker 2>at this area where all these trees were.

559
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:51.039
<v Speaker 3>Down, and I whoop and nothing, And so.

560
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:57.119
<v Speaker 2>I get ready to start the jeep back up, and

561
00:36:57.199 --> 00:37:02.599
<v Speaker 2>I hear a whoop and I look at my wife, who,

562
00:37:03.480 --> 00:37:06.800
<v Speaker 2>like I mentioned, is she doesn't hear so good. And

563
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:10.760
<v Speaker 2>she heard it, and she goes do that again, So

564
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:16.239
<v Speaker 2>a whoop again, and this one back and forth.

565
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:20.559
<v Speaker 3>For about fifteen minutes I.

566
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:24.239
<v Speaker 2>Had whoop, and then the awkward amount of time would

567
00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:30.960
<v Speaker 2>go by and I would get a reply a whoop,

568
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:38.440
<v Speaker 2>and the reply whoop was getting farther and farther. The

569
00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:41.760
<v Speaker 2>sound was the same, the distance was the same, but

570
00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:45.840
<v Speaker 2>the length of time it was taking longer to respond,

571
00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:50.320
<v Speaker 2>and so again I just chalked it up to that's.

572
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Really weird, and I started.

573
00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:57.239
<v Speaker 2>I went to start up the jeep and the final

574
00:37:57.280 --> 00:38:01.199
<v Speaker 2>whoop was loud enough to I could hear it over

575
00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:05.920
<v Speaker 2>the GEP. And then so I look over out the

576
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:10.280
<v Speaker 2>window to this blowdown area and this.

577
00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:12.880
<v Speaker 3>Side of I don't.

578
00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:17.480
<v Speaker 2>I call it a blowdown area, but the tree line

579
00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:26.079
<v Speaker 2>this side of that area, this huge black object, human

580
00:38:26.199 --> 00:38:33.400
<v Speaker 2>shape thing just darted out and went from my right

581
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:39.000
<v Speaker 2>to my left and gone. It just it was so fast,

582
00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:43.760
<v Speaker 2>just almost like a blur. And I've heard accounts of

583
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:48.199
<v Speaker 2>people saying they've had a rifle and tried to tried

584
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:51.239
<v Speaker 2>to get a shot at one of these things and

585
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:54.599
<v Speaker 2>try to swing the rifle as fast as they could

586
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:57.159
<v Speaker 2>to try to get a shot, and they couldn't keep

587
00:38:57.239 --> 00:38:59.280
<v Speaker 2>up with it. And that's exactly what this was. I

588
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:01.360
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't believe it. I hadn't seen it with my own eyes.

589
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:05.679
<v Speaker 2>It was just and it was right there. It was

590
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:09.360
<v Speaker 2>throwing its voice off into the distance, making it sound

591
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:11.119
<v Speaker 2>like it was further away than it was.

592
00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:18.440
<v Speaker 3>It was right there. Oh wow, the speed of it.

593
00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:21.719
<v Speaker 2>Was just what what blew my mind? I was just

594
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:26.880
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't believe something that big could move that quick.

595
00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:31.360
<v Speaker 2>There wasn't any fear. It was just there. We were

596
00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:34.599
<v Speaker 2>just having fun, whooping back and forth. No idea what

597
00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:37.280
<v Speaker 2>I was saying to it. There was no smell, no nothing.

598
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:39.599
<v Speaker 2>Of course, it was far enough away that the wind

599
00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:42.079
<v Speaker 2>would have had been coming right at us to be

600
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:42.920
<v Speaker 2>able to smell it.

601
00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:48.519
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I was. That was the first time I

602
00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:49.599
<v Speaker 3>had actually.

603
00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Seen something heard him smell them that. That's the first

604
00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:59.719
<v Speaker 2>time I've actually seen him. Even that wasn't very clear.

605
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:05.719
<v Speaker 1>How far away from you both was it approximately.

606
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:14.519
<v Speaker 2>So it was up an incline, but probably, oh, probably close.

607
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:16.599
<v Speaker 3>To fifty feet. Wow.

608
00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:20.599
<v Speaker 1>Okay, man, I.

609
00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:22.280
<v Speaker 3>Thought I knew something was there.

610
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:24.519
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know what it was, but I knew something

611
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:28.000
<v Speaker 2>was there, But I had no idea it was that close.

612
00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:30.480
<v Speaker 2>It sounded like it was off in a distance. I

613
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:34.639
<v Speaker 2>guess that it was throwing its voice or throwing the

614
00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:40.480
<v Speaker 2>whoop away from us, but it was loud enough to

615
00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:42.840
<v Speaker 2>where you could still hear it.

616
00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:43.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't know it.

617
00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:48.920
<v Speaker 2>To me, it showed intelligence, it didn't want to give

618
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:52.360
<v Speaker 2>itself up. But it really makes me wonder because I

619
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:58.480
<v Speaker 2>started the jeep and it whooped again, and we're getting

620
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:01.079
<v Speaker 2>ready to leave. So white blow your cover, so to speak,

621
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:05.039
<v Speaker 2>because it was behind behind a a grouping of trees

622
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:06.639
<v Speaker 2>to where I couldn't see it.

623
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:09.679
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. It just makes me wonder anyway, why

624
00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:11.280
<v Speaker 3>I blow your cover? Yeah?

625
00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:16.199
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, So it's for listeners. So if we're talking like

626
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:19.400
<v Speaker 1>fifty feet that an example of that is like a

627
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:22.360
<v Speaker 1>little over half the length of a basketball court, is

628
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:26.079
<v Speaker 1>what fifty feet is. Yeah, so you saw it ron

629
00:41:26.199 --> 00:41:29.119
<v Speaker 1>as a blur, you dart out, were you able to

630
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:32.079
<v Speaker 1>get a sense of how tall whatever you saw was?

631
00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:36.559
<v Speaker 3>Not? Really? But I'd like to said it was on

632
00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:40.719
<v Speaker 3>an incline. It was uphill from me, so I'm looking up.

633
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:43.320
<v Speaker 2>At it, so it maybe it looked bigger than it

634
00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:44.079
<v Speaker 2>actually was.

635
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:47.119
<v Speaker 3>But I didn't go up there a measure. I didn't

636
00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:52.119
<v Speaker 3>get out. I went home, so I knew actually laying eyes.

637
00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:56.639
<v Speaker 2>On something for reals these this time, all the sounds,

638
00:41:56.719 --> 00:41:59.280
<v Speaker 2>all the weird stuff that's happened in the past, it's

639
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:02.719
<v Speaker 2>all for this picture. And he's you can chalk up

640
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:06.519
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the experiences I've had to whatever when

641
00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:12.400
<v Speaker 2>you actually see something moving like that, and maybe it

642
00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:15.920
<v Speaker 2>was a human whooping at me, but there is no

643
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:21.119
<v Speaker 2>human on planet or ever that could move like that.

644
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:23.719
<v Speaker 3>Zero There is a zero chance.

645
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:28.519
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, I've listened to guys recount swinging a

646
00:42:28.599 --> 00:42:30.840
<v Speaker 2>rifle at one and not being able to keep up,

647
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:34.199
<v Speaker 2>and that's exactly what this was. There was if you

648
00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:37.039
<v Speaker 2>would have drawn on this thing, there's no way you

649
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:38.000
<v Speaker 2>could have fired at it.

650
00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Wild stuff.

651
00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:41.159
<v Speaker 3>So this is now.

652
00:42:41.199 --> 00:42:44.159
<v Speaker 1>You're in the time where you've actually had a sighting

653
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:47.679
<v Speaker 1>of something and there's no coming back from that. From

654
00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:51.840
<v Speaker 1>what I've gathered talking to people over the years, I

655
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:55.440
<v Speaker 1>haven't had that yet myself. But Eric, let's continue with

656
00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:58.840
<v Speaker 1>what you've experienced as we go along here.

657
00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Like I mentioned earlier, that fire happened in twenty four.

658
00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:10.719
<v Speaker 2>We had another fire this year, wasn't near as aggressive.

659
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:15.559
<v Speaker 2>This late summer was rainy, so it helped well some

660
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:18.960
<v Speaker 2>of the fire danger, but it also brought in thunderstorms

661
00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:21.719
<v Speaker 2>which ignited some of the fires.

662
00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:23.920
<v Speaker 3>And these firefighters up here have.

663
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:27.320
<v Speaker 2>Been doing an amazing job of getting on top of

664
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:34.079
<v Speaker 2>these fires very rapidly and getting them out. But unfortunately,

665
00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:37.360
<v Speaker 2>this big called it the fully Ridge fire out of

666
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:41.199
<v Speaker 2>got out of control. It got away from them, and

667
00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:45.280
<v Speaker 2>several a couple of days had gone by of this

668
00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:47.760
<v Speaker 2>fire burning, and it looked like they weren't going to

669
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:51.280
<v Speaker 2>get it out, and it had grown pretty aggressively.

670
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:53.360
<v Speaker 3>Over the course of two days.

671
00:43:53.480 --> 00:44:00.119
<v Speaker 2>We lived right near there, and so we thought we

672
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:01.039
<v Speaker 2>probably better.

673
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:03.599
<v Speaker 3>Get eyes on this, and because you.

674
00:44:03.559 --> 00:44:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Don't want to be evacuating at a moment's notice, you

675
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:09.679
<v Speaker 2>want to plant ahead it. Later in the evening it

676
00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:13.519
<v Speaker 2>was still daylight, but later in the evening we went

677
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:19.199
<v Speaker 2>up to that area and pulled off the road and

678
00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:25.760
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty aggressive terrain, pretty thick, pretty thick brush. Again,

679
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:30.800
<v Speaker 2>you're in a mix of old growth dug fur and

680
00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:34.159
<v Speaker 2>some younger dug fur, and then of course there's other

681
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:39.880
<v Speaker 2>lots of scrub brush and whatnot. But you could see

682
00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:43.880
<v Speaker 2>the fire off oh gosh, probably eighth of a mile

683
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:49.320
<v Speaker 2>off the road as it inclines up the mountainside, and

684
00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:53.320
<v Speaker 2>fortunately it really didn't look as bad as what they

685
00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:59.119
<v Speaker 2>were saying, and we're relieved by that, and we just

686
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:04.559
<v Speaker 2>watch the choppers come in and vomit, and then it

687
00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:09.480
<v Speaker 2>got towards evening and we're just I wanted to get

688
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:13.519
<v Speaker 2>some pictures of it at night with my phone. I've

689
00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:16.480
<v Speaker 2>got a nice phone and as a night shot feature

690
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:20.440
<v Speaker 2>on it where you can get thermal It doesn't have

691
00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:23.440
<v Speaker 2>thermal imaging on it as far as I know, but

692
00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:29.280
<v Speaker 2>it does take real good pictures of ambient light at night,

693
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:33.360
<v Speaker 2>so if there's any light out there, phone picks up

694
00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:35.039
<v Speaker 2>on it. So I figured we'd be able to see

695
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:40.199
<v Speaker 2>hotspots real well and get a pretty good scope of

696
00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:44.440
<v Speaker 2>where the fire is, and then we'd come back subsequent

697
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:48.440
<v Speaker 2>nights and get updates and see how fast it's progressing.

698
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:52.800
<v Speaker 2>It's well after dark at this point, Fire Cruise had

699
00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:59.679
<v Speaker 2>gone home, the choppers were long gone, and I let

700
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:02.880
<v Speaker 2>out a whoop, like I always do getting ready to

701
00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:07.159
<v Speaker 2>go home. So I let out a whoop, and way

702
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:11.119
<v Speaker 2>up above the fire, to the left where the fire

703
00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:16.880
<v Speaker 2>had not gone yet, I'm standing outside the jeep Patty

704
00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:23.960
<v Speaker 2>is my wife. She's sitting in the passenger seat. I

705
00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:28.800
<v Speaker 2>let out the whoop, and this huge dug fur. It

706
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:33.360
<v Speaker 2>was like within five seconds of me doing a whoop,

707
00:46:33.519 --> 00:46:39.280
<v Speaker 2>this huge dug fur comes crashing down and I turn

708
00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:42.719
<v Speaker 2>around to look at the wife and I'm just in shock.

709
00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:47.320
<v Speaker 2>I asked her, did you hear that? And she's like, yes,

710
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:51.239
<v Speaker 2>I heard that. And I didn't get turned back around

711
00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:56.960
<v Speaker 2>to the woodline before the second huge dug fur got

712
00:46:57.400 --> 00:47:02.159
<v Speaker 2>up pushed down. I'd find out later it was pushed down,

713
00:47:03.679 --> 00:47:07.840
<v Speaker 2>and so that was enough that scared me. I was

714
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:13.320
<v Speaker 2>finally scared. We got out of there, and we're talking

715
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:17.840
<v Speaker 2>about coincidences. What was that? And we both know that

716
00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:22.639
<v Speaker 2>was outside the burn, so it wasn't burn trees coming down.

717
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:26.360
<v Speaker 2>That was well outside where the fire was or even

718
00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:32.639
<v Speaker 2>had been, So that didn't add up. And so we

719
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:38.000
<v Speaker 2>went back and I don't know how many days had passed,

720
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:42.920
<v Speaker 2>It may have been a day, maybe two days after that,

721
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:45.679
<v Speaker 2>we went back up just to check on the progress

722
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:50.840
<v Speaker 2>of the fire. Again, it's at night, right at dusk,

723
00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:56.159
<v Speaker 2>and so I'd get some pictures, some night pictures of

724
00:47:56.199 --> 00:48:01.800
<v Speaker 2>the fire, and again I whoop, and again a tree

725
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:07.800
<v Speaker 2>comes down again within seconds after I whoop, and this

726
00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:11.360
<v Speaker 2>was been the same approximate area where the other two

727
00:48:11.400 --> 00:48:15.559
<v Speaker 2>trees came down. It was outside the burn and another

728
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:22.639
<v Speaker 2>massive tree. And shortly after that there was a whoop

729
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:27.400
<v Speaker 2>a reply that came back. And as you're looking at

730
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:30.880
<v Speaker 2>the mountain side, it was to my right. The trees

731
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:37.639
<v Speaker 2>came down to my left up the mountain side, so

732
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:42.159
<v Speaker 2>the whoop came from my right, and so I whooped

733
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:48.960
<v Speaker 2>back and got a whoop again to my right, and

734
00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:52.519
<v Speaker 2>this went on back and forth for probably about forty

735
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:58.079
<v Speaker 2>five minutes. We did start working our way down because

736
00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:01.599
<v Speaker 2>it was getting late. We did start working our way

737
00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:06.360
<v Speaker 2>down down the road. But as we were working down,

738
00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I'd pull over and whoop and get a whoop back.

739
00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:16.880
<v Speaker 2>And I had assumed it was firefighters up in there

740
00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:18.840
<v Speaker 2>that were camped out up in there, that were just

741
00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:22.800
<v Speaker 2>messing around like I was messing around. But we found

742
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:25.840
<v Speaker 2>out the next day that no, the.

743
00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:28.519
<v Speaker 3>Firefighters pull out before.

744
00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:34.719
<v Speaker 2>Dark and go to their camp that was I don't know,

745
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:38.559
<v Speaker 2>about five or six miles away, so there was nobody

746
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:44.159
<v Speaker 2>up in there. And that's when I realized that we

747
00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:48.400
<v Speaker 2>got something. For reals, He's going on here, and so

748
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:51.559
<v Speaker 2>I mentioned it to a friend of mine that I

749
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:56.880
<v Speaker 2>work with, and he was very interested to experience this

750
00:49:57.000 --> 00:50:00.360
<v Speaker 2>for himself. So I took him up there. This is

751
00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:06.679
<v Speaker 2>again several days later. Again we go up there and

752
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:11.639
<v Speaker 2>I whoop, and this time I've got the camera rolling.

753
00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:16.880
<v Speaker 2>And just before that, you could hear something in the

754
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:20.280
<v Speaker 2>tree line. I couldn't see it, but you could hear

755
00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:23.920
<v Speaker 2>something trying to be quiet moving through the tree line.

756
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:27.840
<v Speaker 2>And I asked him, do you hear that? He hadn't

757
00:50:27.880 --> 00:50:30.760
<v Speaker 2>heard it, and I said, there's something in there. And

758
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:34.159
<v Speaker 2>I tell him I'm going to whoop, and so I

759
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:41.000
<v Speaker 2>whoop and another massive tree comes down and that was it.

760
00:50:41.360 --> 00:50:46.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it scared him.

761
00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, let's I think it'd be good. We can

762
00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:52.760
<v Speaker 1>play that sound right now. Actually, you have you provided

763
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:56.000
<v Speaker 1>the video audio for that, So I'm going to go ahead.

764
00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:58.159
<v Speaker 1>We'll put it in here and so people can hear

765
00:50:58.239 --> 00:50:59.639
<v Speaker 1>exactly what happened.

766
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:04.280
<v Speaker 4>There's something in there, I think, so I can hear it,

767
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:16.039
<v Speaker 4>hear it. Yeah, hung gonna whoop? Yeah.

768
00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Uh, some wild stuff, man. I can't imagine experiencing that

769
00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:40.719
<v Speaker 1>in real life. That would be absolutely wild.

770
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:42.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

771
00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:46.519
<v Speaker 2>The first couple of times. It's a little disconcerting. This

772
00:51:46.639 --> 00:51:51.440
<v Speaker 2>thing has to be massive. I couldn't imagine how how

773
00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:53.960
<v Speaker 2>big this thing has to be pushing trees like that. Now,

774
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:58.519
<v Speaker 2>if this has happened, I gosh, I'm I lost count,

775
00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:06.239
<v Speaker 2>but probably at least nine times, ten times now maybe one.

776
00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:07.760
<v Speaker 3>I'd go up there.

777
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:11.079
<v Speaker 2>And I've taken a couple of different people up with me,

778
00:52:11.679 --> 00:52:15.599
<v Speaker 2>and it's shocking. It's shocking the first time it happens,

779
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:19.239
<v Speaker 2>it's hard to believe that it's actually happening. But I

780
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:23.360
<v Speaker 2>took a gentleman up there with me this this last week,

781
00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:29.719
<v Speaker 2>and he brought a large pit ball with him. And

782
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:35.440
<v Speaker 2>when we got in there, there wasn't there wasn't really

783
00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:36.639
<v Speaker 2>a whole lot of activity.

784
00:52:36.679 --> 00:52:38.679
<v Speaker 3>At first, I had.

785
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:43.719
<v Speaker 2>Heard some we had heard some tree knocks, and I

786
00:52:43.800 --> 00:52:46.360
<v Speaker 2>did a whoop like I always due, and a tree

787
00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:50.400
<v Speaker 2>came down way off in the distance, and so we

788
00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:55.480
<v Speaker 2>thought maybe we should move in that direction, and so

789
00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:58.840
<v Speaker 2>we did. We got in our rigs and moved down

790
00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:03.960
<v Speaker 2>in that direction and whoop, I whooped again. And we're

791
00:53:03.960 --> 00:53:08.360
<v Speaker 2>outside the rigs. It's pitch black. There's no moon, no stars,

792
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:14.760
<v Speaker 2>it's dark, absolutely dark. I'm at the rear of his rig,

793
00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:17.719
<v Speaker 2>and he's outside the rig and I can't hardly even

794
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:21.440
<v Speaker 2>see him, it's so dark, but he had his dog

795
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:29.719
<v Speaker 2>outside the rig, and within literal minute or two, his

796
00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:34.920
<v Speaker 2>dog was very anxious and wanted She was pawing at him,

797
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:39.760
<v Speaker 2>wanting back in the rig. And so he verbalized that

798
00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:42.719
<v Speaker 2>to me that his dog is very anxious and wants

799
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:44.360
<v Speaker 2>to back in the rig. So he put her back

800
00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:47.880
<v Speaker 2>in the rig, and she goes and sits in the

801
00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:52.119
<v Speaker 2>front seat, the driver's seat, where she absolutely doesn't belong,

802
00:53:53.639 --> 00:54:00.880
<v Speaker 2>and I whoop, and we heard some some noises. I

803
00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:03.880
<v Speaker 2>don't know if it was a tree knock or some

804
00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:08.400
<v Speaker 2>sort of popping sound anyway, But then for the first time,

805
00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:12.960
<v Speaker 2>I heard feet stomping, and you could tell this thing

806
00:54:13.119 --> 00:54:18.920
<v Speaker 2>was huge, but it was often a distance, but it

807
00:54:19.079 --> 00:54:25.880
<v Speaker 2>was like six steps, just stomping hard into the into

808
00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:27.199
<v Speaker 2>the ground up.

809
00:54:27.239 --> 00:54:31.599
<v Speaker 3>On the hillside. So this thing was evidently.

810
00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:34.760
<v Speaker 2>Not happy that there was a dog present. What I

811
00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:38.079
<v Speaker 2>read it as maybe not, I don't know, but that's

812
00:54:38.119 --> 00:54:41.679
<v Speaker 2>the first time anything like that has ever happened where

813
00:54:41.679 --> 00:54:45.840
<v Speaker 2>it's stomped. But I think, honestly, I think they're moving

814
00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:49.679
<v Speaker 2>out of the out of the area. I went up

815
00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:54.000
<v Speaker 2>there this weekend. I went up there. Of course, we

816
00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:58.559
<v Speaker 2>had a storm moving in and so it's hard to

817
00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:03.679
<v Speaker 2>hear with the wind and the rain coming down. That

818
00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:07.719
<v Speaker 2>was raining pretty aggressively, but it's hard to hear, so

819
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:10.920
<v Speaker 2>I might have missed something. But I've gone up there

820
00:55:12.039 --> 00:55:16.639
<v Speaker 2>two nights now and I haven't heard anything, And so

821
00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:20.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking they're moving out because the sounds we're getting

822
00:55:20.119 --> 00:55:22.480
<v Speaker 2>further and further off in the distance, and the fire

823
00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:25.440
<v Speaker 2>is I'm assuming it has to be out by now with.

824
00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:27.119
<v Speaker 3>All the rain that we've been getting.

825
00:55:27.800 --> 00:55:31.039
<v Speaker 2>There might be a few smokers out there, but for

826
00:55:31.079 --> 00:55:34.800
<v Speaker 2>the most part the fires out that I have to

827
00:55:34.840 --> 00:55:38.679
<v Speaker 2>really kind of wonder. These things seem to be attracted

828
00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:44.960
<v Speaker 2>to these fires, and I don't know if they're just

829
00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:49.039
<v Speaker 2>keeping an eye on them, or we had fire crews

830
00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:53.000
<v Speaker 2>out there, we had helicopters bombing. Is that the human

831
00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:58.639
<v Speaker 2>attention to the fire that they're watching or are they

832
00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:01.199
<v Speaker 2>watching the fire? I don't really know.

833
00:56:03.639 --> 00:56:06.400
<v Speaker 3>They seem to be around these fires. Not sure. I

834
00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:07.960
<v Speaker 3>don't know what your thoughts are on it, but.

835
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:13.559
<v Speaker 1>Eric, I completely agree with you. So, just for example Oakridge,

836
00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:15.480
<v Speaker 1>the first year I was in Oakridge, we had those

837
00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:20.480
<v Speaker 1>fires really close to Oakridge and the activity was wild

838
00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:24.119
<v Speaker 1>out in the woods that was being experienced this last year,

839
00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:27.679
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of activity, but not nearly as much.

840
00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:30.800
<v Speaker 1>So I think when you have a fire involved, it

841
00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:35.719
<v Speaker 1>really can kick off the things that you experience. And

842
00:56:35.800 --> 00:56:38.840
<v Speaker 1>if you're going out, if listeners are going out when

843
00:56:38.840 --> 00:56:42.039
<v Speaker 1>there's fires around, be careful of those, but also be

844
00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:46.079
<v Speaker 1>aware you could find yourself in a really interesting situation

845
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<v Speaker 1>like Eric has been experiencing, where whooping and then have

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<v Speaker 1>a tree get pushed over. One time that's a coincidence,

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<v Speaker 1>but like nine to ten times that's not a coincidence.

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<v Speaker 1>That is something that's just completely wild.

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<v Speaker 2>That that's within a within a very short time of

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<v Speaker 2>the whoop. And there's been there's been times in that

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<v Speaker 2>exact same area where all whoop tree comes down and

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<v Speaker 2>then we hear owls all over the place, like the

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<v Speaker 2>proverbial eight hundred pound owl. They're on the hillside on

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<v Speaker 2>up the mountain to the right, to the left, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we're hearing them behind us, so we're we've got

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<v Speaker 2>them all around us. And there was one night.

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<v Speaker 3>I have audio of that as well, that.

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<v Speaker 2>These things just wouldn't stop. They were seemingly upset about something.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't say that I was really that concerned about.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't scared. It's not like they're projecting fear or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>But that night that that thing stomped off, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty clear indication that big guys upset.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, absolute.

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<v Speaker 2>That got me a little concerned. Pushing the trees down

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<v Speaker 2>off in the distance, that's impressive. That's impressive, but scary. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it scared me the first, the first time or two,

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<v Speaker 2>but after that it's old hat, as they say. But

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<v Speaker 2>if he wanted to, he could push a tree down

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<v Speaker 2>on us.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, there was no rock throwing, no smell, no, no whistling,

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<v Speaker 2>no did whoop.

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<v Speaker 3>Got whoops back.

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<v Speaker 2>But other than that, it's you can hear them going

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<v Speaker 2>through the brush. You until they're trying to be stealthy,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can still hear them.

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<v Speaker 1>Eric, It's really some fascinating encounters you've been having over

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<v Speaker 1>the years, and I would say, please continue to keep

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<v Speaker 1>us in the loop if you do continue to have

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00:58:58.079 --> 00:59:01.000
<v Speaker 1>things going on. Even if you don't, that's data too

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<v Speaker 1>if things stop and then they start up in the

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<v Speaker 1>half a year or something. But thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for coming on the show today and sharing what you've

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<v Speaker 1>experienced in a really active area of Oregon and just

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<v Speaker 1>a really beautiful area as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, thank you my pleasure. I'm enjoyed sharing.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely not going out looking for this who just this

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00:59:26.960 --> 00:59:29.679
<v Speaker 2>stuff is just out there happening, and I'm going to

889
00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:31.360
<v Speaker 2>keep on keeping on.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely going camping. And I think the.

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<v Speaker 2>More remote you get, probably the more the more you're

892
00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:42.599
<v Speaker 2>gonna be in their area, and they as long as

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00:59:42.599 --> 00:59:44.840
<v Speaker 2>you're not a threat to them. I don't think they're

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00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:45.920
<v Speaker 2>going to be a threat to you.

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<v Speaker 3>And you never know. I don't purford to.

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<v Speaker 2>Understand the psychology of these things. I live next to

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00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:56.800
<v Speaker 2>one point seven million acres of forest land, old doug for,

898
00:59:57.280 --> 01:00:01.280
<v Speaker 2>old growth, to you name it. It's out here, rough terrain,

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01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:06.239
<v Speaker 2>beautiful country. Like you said, that's why I'm here. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the main thing is camping. I love getting out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to keep on keeping on.

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<v Speaker 3>Excellent. Thank you again, Eric. All right, sir, have a

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<v Speaker 3>good dick.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

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<v Speaker 1>directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told

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<v Speaker 1>to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen

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<v Speaker 1>something strange down on the ground, or if you're with

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you

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<v Speaker 1>stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder

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<v Speaker 1>who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil

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<v Speaker 1>field or a trucker with GUS contracts and you've had

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<v Speaker 1>something happen that you've never told a soul. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher

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<v Speaker 1>under contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

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<v Speaker 1>spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA, or

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<v Speaker 1>anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

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<v Speaker 1>then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

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<v Speaker 1>You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

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<v Speaker 1>carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

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<v Speaker 1>We've got the mic see you in the woods. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

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<v Speaker 1>bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

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