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Speaker 2: So April three, twenty twenty six, allegedly according to that
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Speaker 2: and I am not scorched, nor am I Alex Jones
Speaker 2: and last night checked I'm relatively sane and I'm allegedly intelligent,
Speaker 2: but who cares? And most of you don't care, and
Speaker 2: that is definitely what I see. So thanks for listening,
Speaker 2: and I'm definitely glad you're along with me. And for
Speaker 2: his own non benefit, I have a co host and
Speaker 2: I'm glad to have him along with me, because first
Speaker 2: of all, someone should witness the damage with which I
Speaker 2: am having to contend with. And also it's great to
Speaker 2: not feel alone in the victual and real world. Although
Speaker 2: we don't hang out face to face very often, be
Speaker 2: Pete is with me. To add his rather insistent and
Speaker 2: quite frankly something that we had a discussion about, you know,
Speaker 2: in between shows this week, a little bit in digital
Speaker 2: form texts and such. I know very few people on
Speaker 2: the planet who have dedication to an m O as
Speaker 2: a guy like my friend be Pete here, and he
Speaker 2: is my friend. It may or may not sound like
Speaker 2: that by the end of the show, depending on what
Speaker 2: comes up. And that is a constant threat from the
Speaker 2: universe as we go forward. And I say this jokingly,
Speaker 2: lovingly and realistically, we had, you know, two things that
Speaker 2: came up last week. There was a bit of a conflict.
Speaker 2: Quite frankly, I don't even want to address it. I
Speaker 2: have no interest in winning the argument, and that might
Speaker 2: make it worse. Stay tuned, but it's it is absolutely
Speaker 2: impressive and really honestly, and this is not me snow sarcasm,
Speaker 2: mockery or anything else. I want to make sure this
Speaker 2: is on the record before anything else is said or
Speaker 2: done tonight, that you, my friend, actually have a skill
Speaker 2: set that I mean, I might as well try to
Speaker 2: learn how to fly instead of attempting to learn your
Speaker 2: verbal and intellectual kung fu style. So I can't. I
Speaker 2: can't contend with it. It is like my blind, fifty
Speaker 2: year old damage human being barely even connected or interested
Speaker 2: in the world around me, suddenly has to deal with
Speaker 2: the reincarnation of Bruce damn it, Lee, and I do
Speaker 2: mean enter the Dragon. Matter of fact, Enter the Dragon,
Speaker 2: Return of the Dragon, Revenge of the Dragon, and the
Speaker 2: Fallen Dragon of the next Generation all rolled up into one.
Speaker 2: You might as well beat me over the head with
Speaker 2: the same bat they used at the beginning of Untouchables,
Speaker 2: where Robert de Niro, you know, attempted to sort of
Speaker 2: cookie cutter way his way through the role of playing
Speaker 2: al Capone with a baseball bat, and he told a
Speaker 2: room full of people he was fond of the game
Speaker 2: of baseball, which he may or may not have been.
Speaker 2: Because of almost everything you ever see or hear in
Speaker 2: this world about any sort of individuals, of any sort
Speaker 2: of alleged significance is manufactured and bs but occasionally they
Speaker 2: get things right. So the fact that d Niro does
Speaker 2: the I love baseball and beats a guy to death
Speaker 2: at a fancy table to the point where everybody else
Speaker 2: has to sit very still in quiet while this, you know,
Speaker 2: individual sort of interpersonal and vaguely horrifying thing happens in
Speaker 2: front of well businessmen corrupt politicians. I forget who else
Speaker 2: was at the table outside of an average day at
Speaker 2: I don't know, a DC diner if those gist anymore
Speaker 2: depicted in the scene. Even in its depiction, you're unsure
Speaker 2: of the honesty or dishonesty. But de Niro, much like
Speaker 2: al Capone and his typical movements of his head, and
Speaker 2: I don't even own him as an Italian I'm proud of.
Speaker 2: But at least he doesn't go DeNiro. That is on
Speaker 2: the list of embarrassing Italians, which I have a long one,
Speaker 2: and definitely some stars of that particular organization, and al
Speaker 2: Capone is definitely higher up on the food chain when
Speaker 2: it comes to people from the same area of the
Speaker 2: map as far as their ancestors go. Definitely, if we
Speaker 2: were holding a draft as to who remains in your
Speaker 2: particular race, sir, genetic code pool or not, I definitely
Speaker 2: would take any day and all day long. You know.
Speaker 2: Quite frankly, al Capone way above Robert de Niro, and
Speaker 2: not just because of his politics or ego. But that's
Speaker 2: neither here nor there, which I always love that statement.
Speaker 2: It's neither here nor there. Where the hell is it?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: And most people that use that statement way too much.
Speaker 2: Where you know it's not either here nor there. You
Speaker 2: don't need to say, well where is it, you need
Speaker 2: to say I know where it is, along with most
Speaker 2: other things up there as anyway, that all aside, no
Speaker 2: hostility meant for uvpiing at all in this discussion. I'm
Speaker 2: just trying to use colorful descriptors to make sure that
Speaker 2: people understand that when it comes to arguing, you are
Speaker 2: a comfortable mester. And I just want to make that
Speaker 2: clear because I cannot begin to even mimic the moves
Speaker 2: you at. I just want that clear, and I want
Speaker 2: that stated without any sort of like, no, I'm not
Speaker 2: being a smart ass. I don't want to mishurt. I
Speaker 2: want that clear, you know, like I used to talk about,
Speaker 2: and I don't do it anymore because people just give
Speaker 2: me crap and don't even bother to listen to what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. When I use this particular phraseology, let's call it.
Speaker 2: When I say stuff like this is the guy you
Speaker 2: want and other people used to say I think you
Speaker 2: know very in a colloquialism that usually didn't match them
Speaker 2: because they weren't tough guys, never served in the military,
Speaker 2: have no reason to be involved in mortal combat on
Speaker 2: this scale. But they will say stuff like this is
Speaker 2: the guy you want with you in a fox hole?
Speaker 2: And I do mean it's not Italians. I'm making that
Speaker 2: deep voice and it sounds like that because it's me,
Speaker 2: But what I mean to say is it's a grizzly
Speaker 2: older man voice is very intense. Very intentional and usually
Speaker 2: speaks his mind to a room that has ceased to
Speaker 2: move in any other direction, but to make sure they
Speaker 2: could hear the strong words coming from the elder statesman,
Speaker 2: who tells them with no hesitation but with all intention
Speaker 2: that this is the kind of guy you want in
Speaker 2: a foxhol with you in any war, and when war
Speaker 2: were declared, you do have a short list of people
Speaker 2: where you're like, I hope I got this guy on
Speaker 2: my side, on my team and with me if I
Speaker 2: gotta go fight the impossible, the looming giant, the maniacs,
Speaker 2: the subhuman mad, extremely like dangerous creatures that are on
Speaker 2: the opposition side. You're gonna want people of a certain
Speaker 2: character who are not only killers, but efficient ones, unforgiving ones,
Speaker 2: and completely completely without any hesitation or oh, I don't know,
Speaker 2: discernment of any kind other than pure motivational brain connected
Speaker 2: to again, a reliable SNS. Let's say that you can't
Speaker 2: match because of just the simple intelligence, the power of it,
Speaker 2: the dedication, the loyalty. Things like that are usually just
Speaker 2: the bullet points before you get into this is why
Speaker 2: this guy's a badass. And I'm not saying you're a badass. Bpete.
Speaker 2: But what I am saying is that when it comes
Speaker 2: to a verbal conflict, for sure, possibly physical ones. I
Speaker 2: haven't seen it tested, not sure, you know, And I'm
Speaker 2: not making any statements about my own abilities as a
Speaker 2: straight up physical scrapper, but probably in the physical world,
Speaker 2: as some of this was, or is or will continue
Speaker 2: to ever after, be true that you're exactly the guy
Speaker 2: I wanted my team because you're a weapon. You are
Speaker 2: just a weapon when it comes to argument, verbal conflict, etc.
Speaker 2: So I just want to make that very clear that
Speaker 2: I've known this for a long time and I'm laughing
Speaker 2: because it's just a nerve wracking thing to say, and
Speaker 2: it's a nerve wracking thing to submit to, and just
Speaker 2: like open up. The first thing I want to say is,
Speaker 2: like you ever watch one a boxer's, like, you know,
Speaker 2: when they are vaguely coherent, like a lot of tape
Speaker 2: exists of this after a tyson fight where a good
Speaker 2: quality microphone got into a with a guy who's thinks
Speaker 2: he knows where he is, thinks he knows what just happened,
Speaker 2: but realistically he barely knows a damn thing except that
Speaker 2: at a certain point he don't know a damn thing
Speaker 2: after that, lights was out because they were confronted with
Speaker 2: somebody who didn't give when they got got pretty simple,
Speaker 2: like Michael Spinks, who was you know, the man or
Speaker 2: who was it? He brings the drinks somehow he brings
Speaker 2: the drinks, was like a good tough guy nickname for
Speaker 2: I never understand just because the rhymes with Spinks doesn't
Speaker 2: mean it's you know, sensible. So Iron Mike Tyson confronted
Speaker 2: Michael Spinx, who brings the drinks? I can't do you know,
Speaker 2: I can't do Michael Buffer. But you get the point.
Speaker 2: The guy who brings the drink against Iron Mike Tyson
Speaker 2: lasted ninety seconds maybe, and it didn't even need to
Speaker 2: last that long at all. And you know, it was
Speaker 2: sort of like Trevor Berbick was a fairly tough guy.
Speaker 2: A few months I think before yeah, I think it
Speaker 2: was a few months before Burbick met Tyson directly. Burbick
Speaker 2: was bigger. Oh he was fat, he was out of shape. No,
Speaker 2: not really, that's not the case here. If you take
Speaker 2: a look at the way that you know Burbick's brain
Speaker 2: damage set in, you ever see that one BPTE like
Speaker 2: have you seen it, Well, you've probably seen it, but
Speaker 2: have you seen it recently where Burbick is like trying
Speaker 2: to put his legs back under him after the fight
Speaker 2: with Tyson?
Speaker 4: To show you how long it's been since I've watched
Speaker 4: a heavyweight fight?
Speaker 5: Who is the heavyweight champion of the world? Right now,
Speaker 5: I could tell you my life depended on Uh.
Speaker 2: Okay, So like you haven't watched since what the hell
Speaker 2: was that nineteen eighty eight?
Speaker 4: Well, something watched? Was Tyson's third fight? Tyson ninety probably
Speaker 4: ninety three was the last time I watched it everywhere
Speaker 4: for ninety two.
Speaker 2: Okay, just for reference, just for reference, because.
Speaker 5: The money off first two fights.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think you're wrong about it being Tyson's third
Speaker 2: fight because I literally think tight And here's a funny thing.
Speaker 2: I literally think Tyson's third fight might have not been broadcast.
Speaker 2: Can you take a look at what his third fight
Speaker 2: was and and let me know So I got a
Speaker 2: point of reference to share with you, because I don't
Speaker 2: even want to open up a browser right now given
Speaker 2: the computer issue I had just forre going live. So
Speaker 2: if you could, real quick just ask the internet if
Speaker 2: if Tyson's Who's Tyson's third opponent was and you know,
Speaker 2: get get us some information.
Speaker 5: No, not Jake Paul. What the hell?
Speaker 4: Tyson's Jake Paul was a recent correctly, No's hold on
Speaker 4: this is uh.
Speaker 2: Well, just for the listener, Jake Paul, you're goody good,
Speaker 2: Let's screw Jake Paul, right clown exactly. But I was
Speaker 2: trying to be smooth about it, but fucking yeah, good.
Speaker 5: Let's see. Tyson's third heavyweight fight was.
Speaker 4: Lorenzo Cannedy back in eighty five?
Speaker 6: Was it?
Speaker 5: Damn? It was that long ago?
Speaker 2: Okay, eighty five? Yeah, so eighty five. He was I
Speaker 2: think eighteen, and I'm not sure if it was broadcast,
Speaker 2: but I don't think that's the fight you saw, because
Speaker 2: you probably saw it from a nice place like on
Speaker 2: ESPN or HBO or something like that, or part of
Speaker 2: a boxing card that was broadcast on TV.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, it was through HBO because his first two
Speaker 4: I won hands down on bets. We picked a round,
Speaker 4: the person was going down, and I cleaned up. I
Speaker 4: mean I made about three four hundred dollars on each.
Speaker 2: One, like his very first like three round fight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I went and ordered a big like seventy
Speaker 4: two inch screen from Curtis Mathis and had a bunch
Speaker 4: of people over and how the fight was over with,
Speaker 4: you know, in seconds.
Speaker 2: Okay, I want you to look at that and make sure.
Speaker 2: But let's pick a fight that we know we both saw.
Speaker 4: Okay, the current heavyweight champion is Alexander you sick? He
Speaker 4: just got it from the WBA, the WBC, the.
Speaker 5: IVF, the WBO. That's a pretty good he defeated Tyson.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, pretty good collection war that's a pretty good
Speaker 2: excuse me again, collection. God, now I'm gonna have like hiccups.
Speaker 2: That's a pretty good collection of belts. Can you just
Speaker 2: check who the lineal champion champion is because it might
Speaker 2: be this guy as well. The lineal champion might tell
Speaker 2: us something else.
Speaker 6: I see.
Speaker 5: Let me take off current and just put list of and.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make a dangerous move if anybody's calling. In
Speaker 2: which I didn't even give out the number yet three
Speaker 2: one nine, five two seven five zero one six. We
Speaker 2: haven't gotten to it because we're trying to find I'm
Speaker 2: trying to find us a point of very common ground
Speaker 2: that I'm certing of so we can delve into something here.
Speaker 2: But I'm failing to get there because I need a
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson fight that's accurate. So I know we're both
Speaker 2: looking at the same thing. Uh, and I'm having trouble
Speaker 2: figuring out which one would be best. But I'll get
Speaker 2: there three one nine five two seven five zero one
Speaker 2: six And you get to listen on the phone while
Speaker 2: you're waiting, be pizza, looking stuff up. Or I'm attempting
Speaker 2: daring to open an Internet browser on a machine. Oh
Speaker 2: wait a minute, you know what, I have a busted,
Speaker 2: busted cell phone that if I try real hard, I
Speaker 2: might be able to use use it because the computer's
Speaker 2: not on Wi Fi computers on a direct line, but
Speaker 2: I might be able to use a active computer instead
Speaker 2: of them, you know, the computer I'm broadcasting on, so
Speaker 2: that it doesn't theoretically interfere with my broadcast or anything
Speaker 2: else and screw me over and cause you guys to
Speaker 2: either hear crap or cut us or knock us offline
Speaker 2: or whatever. So I'm attempting to juggle a little here. Anyway,
Speaker 2: if you get a list, just this is a good
Speaker 2: starting point. Get a list of like say Tyson's first
Speaker 2: ten opponents. We won't need them all. We only need
Speaker 2: like one or two. But if you could get a
Speaker 2: list of my Tyson's first ten opponents, will I turn
Speaker 2: and try to use the pone which is a visual
Speaker 2: challenge to get Also like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for the WBAWBC and the IBF. Tyson fought to
Speaker 4: Reill Bigs in eighty seven and defeated him. Then he
Speaker 4: defeated Larry Holmes, Then he defeated Tony Tubbs.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, these are way deeper. Yeah, these are way
Speaker 2: deeper than into his first one. But that's good. We
Speaker 2: got ahead of the Michael Sphinx fight, which to my knowledge,
Speaker 2: and let's see if you and I can agree on this,
Speaker 2: that was the first time I really saw people outraged
Speaker 2: about you know, what the hell I just paid fifty
Speaker 2: dollars in what'd you say, nineteen eighty nine money or
Speaker 2: something or eighty eight money eighty eight?
Speaker 5: Okay, I was in eighty.
Speaker 2: Eight, So in nineteen eighty eight dollars. People were enraged,
Speaker 2: I mean, not quite like it was the OJ burdict
Speaker 2: a few years later, but bad that they paid fifty dollars.
Speaker 2: They got some pre you know, some other fights, but
Speaker 2: they were outraged, angry, disgusted, irritated because at that time.
Speaker 2: You had a good cable bill in nineteen eighty eight,
Speaker 2: which gave you premium channels, good services, you know, the
Speaker 2: best remote, a nice box in your house, which was
Speaker 2: you know, a power drain that you had that also
Speaker 2: heated up to about five hundred freaking degrees. You know,
Speaker 2: you could heat the house with it if you could
Speaker 2: keep it running right. But watching TV might have been
Speaker 2: a challenge on occasion for this thing that you know,
Speaker 2: could indeed, you know, melt down like it's Chernobyl in
Speaker 2: the corner of your freaking living room. But there it is.
Speaker 2: You know, at least you got to see the fight
Speaker 2: if you didn't blink.
Speaker 5: So okay, yeah, Now I do remember Holyfield.
Speaker 4: This was in ninety one when he beat George Foreman,
Speaker 4: and then he beat Bert Cooper, and then in ninety
Speaker 4: two he defeated Larry Holmes.
Speaker 2: Are we talking about Tyson defeating Larry Holmes and all that?
Speaker 4: No, No, we're talking about he was in the nineties,
Speaker 4: because I remember renting a TV. But maybe it was
Speaker 4: the homes, the holy Field Homes fight. I'm trying to
Speaker 4: They don't list the rounds that they You have to
Speaker 4: pull up piece individual one let's go back to Tyson.
Speaker 4: I know Tyson, see because I was dating my second
Speaker 4: wife at the time and I didn't it wasn't divorced
Speaker 4: until ninety and I know it was after that.
Speaker 5: So it had to have been Holyfield that we were watching.
Speaker 2: Okay, but in no listen, no offense to you in
Speaker 2: any way, shape or form. It could easily be a blur.
Speaker 2: And then not just because you're you know, getting on
Speaker 2: an age and you're having a senior moment or twenty No,
Speaker 2: nothing like that. Reality is that these things went on,
Speaker 2: went by, and we're cashed in on by you know,
Speaker 2: want to be gangsters. Yeah, like Don Kings to the point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just this is definitely because Buster Douglas went
Speaker 4: down in the third round. Holyfield had a knock out
Speaker 4: in the third round. And that's the one that I
Speaker 4: mean that one. I had to get HBO to watch
Speaker 4: that one, right.
Speaker 2: And frankly fortune and frankly I got home. This is
Speaker 2: I was actually living with, you know, the woman allegedly
Speaker 2: known to be my mother and my stepfather in Ocean Grove,
Speaker 2: New Jersey. I was still under somebody else's roof. So
Speaker 2: that meant that the oldest I could have been is eighteen,
Speaker 2: you know, And but but I left shortly thereafter. I
Speaker 2: was out of there as soon as I could manage
Speaker 2: to arrange it. So but I was still living with them,
Speaker 2: I was out with a girlfriend and didn't feel as
Speaker 2: though my time was best spent at home that night,
Speaker 2: you know, directly, unless I was going to be home
Speaker 2: alone with this, you know, this female that I had
Speaker 2: a intense appreciation for, so, you know, and I would
Speaker 2: have much rather had my room to myself, or any
Speaker 2: room to myself, what her. But couldn't get that done
Speaker 2: so immediately there on that day. And I want to
Speaker 2: say it had to be nineteen eighty nine, but I'm
Speaker 2: not even gonna try and spin it down directly. Here's
Speaker 2: what I do know is that when I got back
Speaker 2: to the house, I was greeted with a videotape handed
Speaker 2: to me, and my mind went, damn. I didn't think
Speaker 2: I was that, you know, I didn't think I was
Speaker 2: that far off the track of time. I thought I
Speaker 2: was right on time coming through when I did. And wow,
Speaker 2: Now not wow because of impressive performance, none to that
Speaker 2: or even what happened that night for me on a
Speaker 2: personal level or anything else. It was just that it
Speaker 2: completely conflicted what I thought, who would be the expectations
Speaker 2: for younger viewers at the time, who certainly had different
Speaker 2: lifestyles than what I was attempting to accommodate, navigate, et cetera.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. So it was definitely an
Speaker 2: odd and intense nights and people needed to make and
Speaker 2: you think that needs to be anyway. You can go
Speaker 2: in a lot of strange directions from where my stop
Speaker 2: was and the shift and the allowance of the pause.
Speaker 2: But the thing is, something unusual had happened right then
Speaker 2: and there, and things were happening of general misunderstanding at
Speaker 2: the time in a lot of places where it was
Speaker 2: odd and.
Speaker 5: Point of lost.
Speaker 2: Sorry, what's that? Oh you heard that? I'm sorry you
Speaker 2: heard that. Actually, I'm sorry. I was attempting to figure
Speaker 2: out exactly what part I finished regarding how there was
Speaker 2: a serious shift and it was a bit of a stunner,
Speaker 2: and I was trying to figure that out, and then
Speaker 2: I started bumping into things and causing a problem, and
Speaker 2: I never got to put that mouth full of food
Speaker 2: I was going to put in my mouth. The overall
Speaker 2: point to be made here is that it was definitely
Speaker 2: a time where things were meant to change, and it
Speaker 2: wasn't advertised quite so well, So people that were clearly hustlers,
Speaker 2: like Don King, seemed to be running a show in
Speaker 2: a direction that nobody knew where it was going to go,
Speaker 2: and it was stunning. So that's where I was trying
Speaker 2: to get across that time. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: At that time, Tyson was trying to come back to
Speaker 4: and they were trying to get trying to get an
Speaker 4: event with holy Field and uh and Tyson. But that's
Speaker 4: when Tyson got convicted of rape and I had to
Speaker 4: go to jail for what six years?
Speaker 2: Okay, you have that a little out of order because
Speaker 2: Buster Douglas occurred before Tyson going to jail.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Buster Douglas was back before Hollyfield.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was also a bad you know, there
Speaker 2: was always talk of holy Field. Buster Douglas happened. Then
Speaker 2: Tyson tried a few more fights and then he went
Speaker 2: to jail after that, right, So I mean that was
Speaker 2: a whole other issue because he was still partying with
Speaker 2: girls in Japan.
Speaker 5: Yeah, go ahead, he Douglas took it in. Uh, let's
Speaker 5: see I underdog against Tyson.
Speaker 4: And I'm trying to see which round it went in.
Speaker 2: It was the last round, it was fifth, you know,
Speaker 2: it was their twelve or whatever the most round was.
Speaker 5: Let's see, yeah, let's see.
Speaker 2: It was the last round, whatever round that was at
Speaker 2: the time, either twelve or fifteen, because for a while
Speaker 2: championship fights were at fifteen, and then they went down
Speaker 2: to twelve, and his fight was like last round. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure and Buster I think even got knocked
Speaker 2: down in the eighth round, if memory serves correctly, So
Speaker 2: he actually got knocked down at one point, and that's afterwards.
Speaker 2: Tyson was, you know, in as many tirades, complaints and
Speaker 2: pump cass ways, he actually showed up on HBO with
Speaker 2: his sunglasses on, disrespectfully sitting there and just being like, yeah,
Speaker 2: well you know they didn't count, right, It was a
Speaker 2: long count, and we all know that if I get
Speaker 2: back in there, I'm gonna destroy him, which he did
Speaker 2: right after well, no excuse me, which was done to
Speaker 2: not done by Tyson, which was done to this one
Speaker 2: went Douglas right after by holy Field.
Speaker 5: Yeah, sorry, go ahead, and yeah, him and Tyson went
Speaker 5: ten rounds.
Speaker 2: It was ten okay, sorry.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because it says. Here says.
Speaker 4: In the tenth round, the damaged Douglason inflicted upon Tyson,
Speaker 4: following again and take a stole on the champion. Douglas
Speaker 4: dominated the round from the outset. While setting Tyson up
Speaker 4: with his jab, Douglas scored a huge upper cut to
Speaker 4: snap Tyson's.
Speaker 5: Head forward or upward.
Speaker 4: He followed with a rapid four punch combination of the head,
Speaker 4: knocking Tyson down for the.
Speaker 5: First time in his career. That's pretty good to go
Speaker 5: that far, but without a knockdown, said Tyson. Struckle to
Speaker 5: his knees, picked up his mouth piece, which was lying
Speaker 5: on the mat next to him.
Speaker 4: He tried to put his back in his mouth and
Speaker 4: that's when that's when they called it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he was clearly I'm not playing the whole.
Speaker 4: Fight because his whole I'm mistaken that one was on
Speaker 4: HBO too.
Speaker 5: Let's see who.
Speaker 2: Was on HBO. I know it was on HBO because
Speaker 2: I remember I got home thinking I have time to
Speaker 2: watch the fight, okay, And like I said, I got
Speaker 2: handed that videotape and they were still replaying as I
Speaker 2: got home. They were still replaying him grabbing the mouthpiece,
Speaker 2: and you know, even though he's wearing gloves and oh
Speaker 2: you going, what do you you think you could do better? No,
Speaker 2: I don't, but acknowledge that he was sticking because yeah,
Speaker 2: he was sticking his mouthpiece in like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I said.
Speaker 4: The picture of him, hey, it was mouthpiece hanging out
Speaker 4: of his mouth turned iconic. And I didn't realize this,
Speaker 4: but Douglas but his special appearance as a guest referee
Speaker 4: on WWFS the Main.
Speaker 5: Event three, that was the next thing I was going
Speaker 5: to bring up.
Speaker 4: And Randy Savage, so Mike Tyson would have done it,
Speaker 4: but he lost, so.
Speaker 5: The Buster Douglas got the chance to do it.
Speaker 2: That's right. I watched that because back then I was
Speaker 2: still watching wrestling. Another minor additional trivia fact, and I
Speaker 2: know this for a fact, is that do you remember
Speaker 2: you know? Before I get to the fact that I know,
Speaker 2: I need to ask you a question to set it up,
Speaker 2: do you remember Mike Tyson's punch Out on the Nintendo
Speaker 2: Home Console? No?
Speaker 5: No, I remember when it was out, but I never
Speaker 5: played it.
Speaker 2: Okay, So it was a video game for the Nintendo,
Speaker 2: the NES, the original you know squared looking system, right,
Speaker 2: and it was Mike Tyson's punch Out. But the truth
Speaker 2: of the matter is that game existed not as Mike
Speaker 2: Tyson's punch Out in the arcade. It was just punch Out, okay,
Speaker 2: and the head Boss, the last tough of the toughs
Speaker 2: going through. You get to fight these opponents. You're familiar
Speaker 2: with the concept of the game. Yeah, oh okay, well,
Speaker 2: let me to just set it up real fair. You
Speaker 2: want to help set it up or you want to
Speaker 2: do it?
Speaker 5: Go for it, Go for it, okay.
Speaker 2: There's all kinds of metaphor points played.
Speaker 4: It, But I was familiar with it, but I never
Speaker 4: played the game, so I was not much into Nintendo then.
Speaker 2: Okay, believe it or not, I don't have Okay, cool,
Speaker 2: so was I at one point. But you know, you
Speaker 2: had to give in eventually, even though Atari hung around
Speaker 2: for quite a while in the market as supposed to today,
Speaker 2: what happens. You know, I want to make this point.
Speaker 2: I'm doing this for a reason. I'm not just wasting
Speaker 2: everybody's time. There is a metaphor, there's a bunch of
Speaker 2: metaphorical and let's call them many lessons which one could
Speaker 2: choose to take from or not take from. The parallel
Speaker 2: points of discussion that on the one hand, are lighthearted,
Speaker 2: relate to a video game, and on the other hand,
Speaker 2: relate to many things in life, not just personal things,
Speaker 2: but things that are occurring on the planet at the moment.
Speaker 2: So I have a reason for this. I may fail
Speaker 2: to present my multi layered cake of ideas and lessons here,
Speaker 2: but let's see how it goes. Punch Out was a
Speaker 2: game that actually had a really cool presence in the
Speaker 2: arcades back then. What's an arcade, great Grandpa? Well, so
Speaker 2: let me tell you before I smack you upside your head,
Speaker 2: because I'm not the touchy feely or touchy feely grandpa
Speaker 2: you might have somewhere else. I might be dangerous, but
Speaker 2: not to you. Anyways, back to the reality, the punch
Speaker 2: Out game was weird because you were a green guy.
Speaker 2: And I do mean that by the way, you were
Speaker 2: like this computer generated green guy. I'm not claiming to
Speaker 2: know the whole backstory or waste your time with the
Speaker 2: book that probably somebody could write about the characters in
Speaker 2: a boxing video game. Screw you, I ain't doing it,
Speaker 2: but it does exist. If you wanted to explore, build
Speaker 2: on this, or even add or interweave your own life
Speaker 2: into this experience. Remember that Hendrick song you experienced? Have
Speaker 2: you ever been experienced?
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 2: Anyway, I love that song. But back to it, punch
Speaker 2: Out was kind of cool and cool for a lot
Speaker 2: of reasons, and one of the main reasons to me
Speaker 2: is that you were Mikey. You were a boxer that
Speaker 2: was supposed to go from training and do the rock story.
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, some of the cut scenes in the
Speaker 2: video game are literally inspired by and I think don't
Speaker 2: quote me on this, but I know they were inspired
Speaker 2: by but they may have also simultaneously provided inspiration for
Speaker 2: some of the Rocky franchise, just saying it's interconnected in
Speaker 2: weird little ways. So you're Mikey, You're trying to make
Speaker 2: it from the bottom. You gotta fight your way up
Speaker 2: dune dun da da dun da da du da da
Speaker 2: d that's right, Rocky. So it's all there, and you
Speaker 2: could interweave it, and you could take it or leave it,
Speaker 2: and you could choose to retrieve it at any time
Speaker 2: or not. Maybe just listen and I'll try and chill
Speaker 2: and give you something to work with. So that's what
Speaker 2: it is, right, It's Mikey and you start out fighting
Speaker 2: in the lower amateur ranks, and you gotta work your
Speaker 2: way up to eventually, you know, either go broke putting
Speaker 2: your quarters in, or defeat the freaking aim in a cabinet. Okay,
Speaker 2: so you're Mikey, you fight these guys. The first guy,
Speaker 2: if I remember right, was named on all versions of
Speaker 2: this glass Joe, which basically was meant to suggest glass jaw.
Speaker 2: Glass joe, you know, twist your r away so that
Speaker 2: it disappears you glass Joe in a place where you're
Speaker 2: not speaking properly. And the landlord also sweeps up teeth
Speaker 2: at the end of the day and handles the sweaty walls. Yes,
Speaker 2: I said sweaty walls, and I didn't mean that. Don't
Speaker 2: put your mind in that particular gutter just yet. Point
Speaker 2: is that it's there, it's successible, it's a possibility. And
Speaker 2: even just the regular non confrontational guy that you never
Speaker 2: see his face up or hear his voice of, you know,
Speaker 2: in between rounds, in between days that you're working, fighting hard,
Speaker 2: publishing art, et cetera, et cetera. Hell, even the landlady
Speaker 2: might try and you know, just make sure she gets
Speaker 2: a sweaty sandwich you know, so that you can eat
Speaker 2: along the way while you're doing your depression era fighting.
Speaker 2: And you know, I don't know how mayonnaise maloney and
Speaker 2: white trash Deli casings come together every month, but you know,
Speaker 2: anytime I've been asked, or anytime it looks like we should,
Speaker 2: or anytime it looks like we're getting towards the end
Speaker 2: and you're gonna lose all your email and everything else,
Speaker 2: a plan becomes changed or it changes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, interesting little story there.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: You mentioned Mike Tyson punch Out.
Speaker 4: That was the first home version YEP of punch Out,
Speaker 4: and it says here in ninety they re released it
Speaker 4: as simply punch Out, with Mike Tyson being replaced with
Speaker 4: the boxer Mister Dream because of the licensing for Mike
Speaker 4: Tyson's name and image expired, But primarily they said it
Speaker 4: was because of the heavyweight title lost to Buster Douglas
Speaker 4: well Hones, so they changed the name.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was about to get there, but first I
Speaker 2: wanted to set up most of it and tell you that. Yeah. Sure,
Speaker 2: the home version started out as Mike Tyson's punch Out,
Speaker 2: but the arcade version did.
Speaker 5: Not, and the Yorks just playing punch Out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the arcade version was a little more elaborate looking
Speaker 2: because obviously it was dedicated to doing one thing and
Speaker 2: it wasn't eight bit shit, but you know there was
Speaker 2: and Mike Tyson's punch Out was one thing. Then it
Speaker 2: went home to the home theater, then it got redone, redone,
Speaker 2: then it went you know, somewhere. So I'm just saying existed. First,
Speaker 2: I've seen disputes about this, believe it or not, regardless
Speaker 2: a copyright dat and everything else, that maybe just maybe
Speaker 2: some things exist at the same time parallel with blah blah.
Speaker 2: But not only was mister Dream part of the equation
Speaker 2: where he was the Ultimate Champion of the world, but
Speaker 2: there was also the Sandman becomes the ultimate Champion of
Speaker 2: the world. And then at a certain point ready they
Speaker 2: put Buster Douglas in. So there are rare copies. And
Speaker 2: I don't know if they sold them for a long
Speaker 2: time or quickly got embarrassed by the fact that they
Speaker 2: were able to throw together, really the Buster Douglas character,
Speaker 2: you ever see it be beat? You ever see the
Speaker 2: Buster Douglas.
Speaker 4: Now, I remember Christon Hondo, who was one of the
Speaker 4: guys in the original that you had to fight your
Speaker 4: way up through.
Speaker 2: Yep, Piston Honda was like, you know, definitely Asian stereotypes.
Speaker 2: Certainly looks like he might have been Ja Japanese for
Speaker 2: a certain but I suspect he was meant to be Korean, okay,
Speaker 2: and he was part of a gaggle of various ethnic
Speaker 2: characters let's call him. That definitely had you know, strong
Speaker 2: leanings toward some people would say racism. Uh, some people
Speaker 2: would be right in some instances, and some things were
Speaker 2: a little you know, do you like a fight lies, Yes,
Speaker 2: that kind of happened, you know, like you ever see
Speaker 2: Jerry Lewis when he did the bucktooth, the you know
Speaker 2: Chinese guy. You know, Jerry Lewis wasn't trying to be hateful,
Speaker 2: but that was kind of hateful. Where that came from
Speaker 2: the idea that, of course it's a great Chinese impression
Speaker 2: because they're all buck toothed and can't open the rise.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, you something from your first comment, you know,
Speaker 4: all the entered the Dragon series. You know, whatever happened
Speaker 4: to kung fu movies, I mean they still had them
Speaker 4: over in China and places like that and their dramas.
Speaker 4: But yep, you know, they tried to bring it back
Speaker 4: with Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker doing their movies together.
Speaker 4: But I'm just amazed that something as popular, I mean
Speaker 4: because enter the all of the Dragon series movies. They
Speaker 4: filled the box offices. I mean they were and what
Speaker 4: it cost them to make them. Those guys they rolled
Speaker 4: in the money. Well whatever happened, you know, it's like
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, it just went away.
Speaker 2: Well, excuse me. As per usual, the greater corporate interests
Speaker 2: don't ever understand, excuse me ever understand you know, the
Speaker 2: real parts up excuse me of the things they own. Okay,
Speaker 2: sorry about that, but my belly gets unstable on occasion
Speaker 2: since my injuries. U So my apologies for any noise
Speaker 2: I may have or may make. But here's the thing
Speaker 2: about the Bruce Lee movies. They didn't know what they
Speaker 2: had because corporate people are oftentimes, you know, astoundingly disconnected
Speaker 2: from the people they're actually serving stuff too, whether it
Speaker 2: be food, clothes, or anything else. Like they hit home
Speaker 2: runs that don't seem to make sense at the time.
Speaker 2: You know, the guy who insisted on making the first
Speaker 2: air Jordan's There's been some recent thing, you know, he's
Speaker 2: gonna have a renaissance, if you will, about his sneaker
Speaker 2: style coming up, because there's gonna be a board, there's
Speaker 2: gonna be lots of stuff, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Uhh was my mic killed again? What happened? Are you think? Okay?
Speaker 6: I'm sorry?
Speaker 2: Well, anyway, the weirdness of it is that a lot
Speaker 2: of these giant core predentities, whether they own Star Wars
Speaker 2: or Bruce Lee, or you know, they own HBO, or
Speaker 2: they own major sporting interests, whatever, often the people who
Speaker 2: actually own the athletes, own the logo, own the stadium,
Speaker 2: no matter how hard they try. It seems to me
Speaker 2: like the rule is you really need to make sure
Speaker 2: you know nothing about anything in order to become an
Speaker 2: owner of a billion dollar piece of the competitive world
Speaker 2: of sports that might eventually control part of what you know,
Speaker 2: we're dealing with right now. Right they don't fully understand,
Speaker 2: they don't fully reckon with. I don't think the people
Speaker 2: that you know, actually did make the money knew what
Speaker 2: kind of individual they had or special sort of cultural phenomena.
Speaker 2: Uh that Bruce Lee was you know, Okay, he's a
Speaker 2: karate guy. He makes lots of movies. Why am I
Speaker 2: putting the Italian accent on the corporate scumbags? My mistake. Sorry,
Speaker 2: that doesn't belong there. It belongs elsewhere, and we'll get
Speaker 2: to that. But the thing is the power brokers in
Speaker 2: certain you know, corridors of strength, according to all which
Speaker 2: I am permitted to access. Okay, you you definitely don't
Speaker 2: have an understanding. You me the common man, that's for sure, have.
Speaker 6: No clue.
Speaker 2: What it is is really running stuff. You're there, Yep,
Speaker 2: what happened?
Speaker 5: Okay, it just went blank. I didn't hear anything at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, same thing happened here. Did we have like, did
Speaker 2: you see something disconnectors?
Speaker 5: No, it's just suddenly it went dead, silent. I didn't
Speaker 5: even hear you even breathing in the background.
Speaker 6: I spell.
Speaker 5: It's the only reason I asked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, we're having Okay, I don't know what this is,
Speaker 2: b Pete, Okay, sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 5: It went super quiet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, as if we were suddenly not on the
Speaker 2: same planet for a moment. I'm telling you there is
Speaker 2: I hate to do this because this is the wrong
Speaker 2: night to do this, for sure, but there is something
Speaker 2: happening currently that I do not have the power to
Speaker 2: articulate the details about or explain that it's happening in
Speaker 2: the world, the reality around us, et cetera. That is
Speaker 2: very disruptive, that is causing certain things to be broken,
Speaker 2: the law order patterns of et cetera, et cetera. You know,
Speaker 2: so I'm saying hello to energy, okay, but I have
Speaker 2: almost no idea and sees this or this is not
Speaker 2: even useful.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I'm fine.
Speaker 2: Okay, but you do note that something weird is happening
Speaker 2: right like, It's not just me. I'm not like high
Speaker 2: or having a stroke here. There's something odd going on.
Speaker 6: Yes, No, well, I don't know.
Speaker 4: The past few weeks, the way you're using teams has
Speaker 4: worked out. It's kind of hard to tell what's going on,
Speaker 4: whether it's teams or something else.
Speaker 2: It does seem like suddenly because okay, for a while
Speaker 2: we could and get teams to work at all. And
Speaker 2: you know what we're gonna have to do right now
Speaker 2: is we have a different caller on than I thought
Speaker 2: we had to begin with now because I looked away
Speaker 2: from the caller list to try and figure something out,
Speaker 2: and it looks like we have Danny from California first
Speaker 2: on the line, and the only one on the line.
Speaker 2: I want to remind everybody that the way to call
Speaker 2: in is three one nine five two seven five zero
Speaker 2: one six. And perhaps uh, you the listener right now
Speaker 2: hearing my voice in a secondary way, although I'm starting
Speaker 2: to believe that there's only maybe five of you listening live,
Speaker 2: perhaps you the listener, can explain what is going on? Uh,
Speaker 2: Like literally, I don't know how to you know, say
Speaker 2: that in a clever I had plenty of what I
Speaker 2: consider to be clever or interesting turns a phrase, so
Speaker 2: to speak, and ways to phrase a turn that I
Speaker 2: was ready to work with tonight describe things about, maybe
Speaker 2: even read from an article here or there to jump
Speaker 2: into different directions and get us something that is, you know,
Speaker 2: a wall of entertaining, interesting and of course free rising information. Anyway,
Speaker 2: should we go to the caller Bpete, I'm willing. I
Speaker 2: am so open to suggestions right now. Holy crap. I
Speaker 2: had a caller show up and disappear by the way,
Speaker 2: which by the time I focused my eyes, I think
Speaker 2: it was Jimmy James. And now it looks like I
Speaker 2: still have Danny from California on the line. So our
Speaker 2: phone lines are probably functioning and appear to be either
Speaker 2: behaving as though the mode of operation is intact, and
Speaker 2: right now I feel as though I may be prepared
Speaker 2: to do a good or at least fairly accurate reenactments
Speaker 2: perfect well, what shall we call this impersonation of someone
Speaker 2: like Robert Stack right now speaking in his normal voice
Speaker 2: while he gives voiceovers to connect a tissue in the
Speaker 2: audio realm? Yeah, I think I could do a Robert
Speaker 2: Stack gig right now because of the way I feel,
Speaker 2: and it seems like things are functioning well, even our microphones.
Speaker 2: Everything's going okay, And we could probably record a show
Speaker 2: based on just voiceovers and proper delivery of you know, patterns,
Speaker 2: maybe something that would be an educational video for the
Speaker 2: latest you know, intelligent articulated models of computer technology that
Speaker 2: are meant to mimic human beings. In other words, artificial
Speaker 2: intelligence brought to you by the ghost of Robert Stack
Speaker 2: in the machine would be perfectly acceptable right now for
Speaker 2: the way things are flowing, functioning, et cetera. And I
Speaker 2: don't know, you know, if there's going to be anything
Speaker 2: left over by the way, uh, I did not have
Speaker 2: any sort of surgery or take any drugs today, just
Speaker 2: for the record, and I don't feel high, but something
Speaker 2: tells me I sound like I'm high, really really not.
Speaker 2: But anyway, yeah, it appears as though, you know, we
Speaker 2: could discuss current events, or we could go kind of
Speaker 2: off on strange tangents and we could get to a
Speaker 2: lot of interesting subject matter that was unplanned, unscripted, and
Speaker 2: unceremoniously might be limited by less than well known technologies. Anyways,
Speaker 2: just saying, artificial intelligence is creeping in in weird ways,
Speaker 2: and it is not only creepy, it is the creep
Speaker 2: It's creeping. And uh, I enjoyed that Metallica saw Creeping Death,
Speaker 2: by the way. It was pretty intense, pretty good, loud
Speaker 2: and proud, and it wasn't even theirs. So I don't
Speaker 2: know what's going on here, but strange things are happening,
Speaker 2: and our computer's stuff seems to be functioning where I'm sitting,
Speaker 2: But it doesn't mean the rest of you are doing fine.
Speaker 2: So guess what I'm gonna do? Say? How are you?
Speaker 2: And therefore your turn at the sink has been rendered
Speaker 2: to be incomplete?
Speaker 7: Okay, Danny, still on the.
Speaker 2: Line, we have oh boom. As you stated that we
Speaker 2: now have Danny from California and Jimmy James both on
Speaker 2: the line. Jimmy just appeared in in front of me.
Speaker 2: You want Jimmy or Danny has been waiting on the
Speaker 2: line longer and Jimmy is there. You want Jimmy or
Speaker 2: Danny first?
Speaker 4: Now, just bring Danny on and then we'll bring Jimmy on.
Speaker 4: Just get this thing going cool.
Speaker 2: You want them on at the same time, or we
Speaker 2: do our normal routine.
Speaker 4: No, bring Danny on and then once he get a
Speaker 4: decides what he wants to discuss, will bring Jimmy on
Speaker 4: and add him to the mixed.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we're gonna do an open lines kind of
Speaker 2: thing here for the next holy crap, thirty five minutes
Speaker 2: because I don't even know what happened to an hour.
Speaker 2: So for thirty five minutes, ladies and gentlemen, three one nine,
Speaker 2: five two seven five zero one six, that would be
Speaker 2: the number to call in to this weirdly oddly dancing
Speaker 2: conversation panel discussion. If you will with an open phone
Speaker 2: line that will remain open unless you're disruptive and need
Speaker 2: to be kicked off of it for some stupid reason
Speaker 2: or you prank call us something like that, you'll be
Speaker 2: kicked away. But otherwise I think we're gonna have just
Speaker 2: a group chat around table with little to no rules
Speaker 2: outside of common civility should probably be observed just for
Speaker 2: the sake of being able to listen to a coherent conversation.
Speaker 2: So let's do our best. Three one nine, five two
Speaker 2: seven five zero one six. Last question, and then I
Speaker 2: want to lean back and shut up, be pete completely
Speaker 2: my last question. I want you to lead this entire
Speaker 2: thing here. Tell me should we add new callers without
Speaker 2: announcing them as they come in?
Speaker 4: I you know, I mean, just go ahead and bring
Speaker 4: them on. We'll figure out who they are a minute
Speaker 4: they open our mouth.
Speaker 2: Okay, gotcha. So we're gonna go chaos stream and we
Speaker 2: have approximately thirty two and we'll definitely make it thirty
Speaker 2: five minutes long. On the Ocelli Effect Friday Night call
Speaker 2: in open mic, it's truly an open mic for thirty
Speaker 2: five three one nine five two seven uh five zero
Speaker 2: one six. That is the complete number to call and
Speaker 2: with any luck on Theoatelly dot Com radio network, o'kelly's
Speaker 2: gonna sit back and shut the f up, and it's
Speaker 2: all you as long as you don't do anything that's
Speaker 2: legally actionable, like threatening somebody's life, you're gonna be live
Speaker 2: and you're gonna stay there. So let's begin with Danny
Speaker 2: from California, and then I'll announce Jimmy, and then after
Speaker 2: that I might not even announce anybody. It'll just happen. So, Danny, California,
Speaker 2: how is it, how are you? What's up?
Speaker 6: Good Friday?
Speaker 2: I suppose? Oh, hey, it's four days away from my birthday. Oh,
Speaker 2: I got to shut up. Sorry, it's four days away
Speaker 2: from my birthday though, it just it just occurred to me.
Speaker 2: It's I have four calendar days. Wow, that was rough
Speaker 2: until the date of my birth occurs on the calendar
Speaker 2: April seventh. Because its four days away, it's the third. Right,
Speaker 2: I'm double on triple checking it. It's true. I was
Speaker 2: born on the seventh. It is the third. Now I'll
Speaker 2: shut up. What is on your mind? Danny? Make the
Speaker 2: ball roll?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 1: Well, it's literally it's holly weak and it's literally good Friday.
Speaker 1: This is like one of my favorite times of the
Speaker 1: year because for me, it's a holiday, it's.
Speaker 6: Family, faith and fun.
Speaker 1: This is kind of we just got done shopping We're
Speaker 1: ready to have the whole family over Easter Sunday, and
Speaker 1: it's usually stress free. Like I said, it's family, faith
Speaker 1: and fun. So I'm just I'm just kind of looking
Speaker 1: forward to this weekend. And I was interesting here talking
Speaker 1: about the Bruce Lee movies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bruce Lee, which VPT had mentioned that you know
Speaker 2: he has. You know, there was this interesting thing with
Speaker 2: Jackie Chan. He brought up Chris Tucker. But Jackie Chan
Speaker 2: they tried to sell to us many times. Do you
Speaker 2: remember the what was it called the Drunken Sense or
Speaker 2: something like that. It was like they they kept telling
Speaker 2: us that Jackie Chan was literally gonna be the new
Speaker 2: Bruce Lee. Super talented Jackie Chan, but he was not
Speaker 2: gonna be the new Bruce Lee. You know what I mean? Danny,
Speaker 2: are you still with us? Danny? Have I destroyed things
Speaker 2: by speaking? Is the universe changing? Is this the Mandela effect?
Speaker 6: Danny?
Speaker 2: Are you there? Are you okay? He is not there.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's okay. I hope he is.
Speaker 2: Uh with that, I should bring on Jimmy James right, uh.
Speaker 6: Be Pete, Yes, Okay.
Speaker 2: I literally did nothing. There was no indication. He just
Speaker 2: kind of went quiet and then went away and there
Speaker 2: was no disruption in our stream or signal or anything. Okay,
Speaker 2: just saying, whatever you hear, guys, is happening, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: in real time, and I am apparently not in complete
Speaker 2: control of when people will appear and disappear from things.
Speaker 2: And it's not a digital reaction. I'm not pressing a
Speaker 2: button and the computer's not going bad, nor is my
Speaker 2: Internet signal at the moment. So with that, let's turn
Speaker 2: to our most often repeat caller, and anyone else can
Speaker 2: join in three one nine, five two seven five zero
Speaker 2: one six. I make no promises as to what will
Speaker 2: happen to you when you join us, or what will
Speaker 2: happen to your call, your digital footprint, or any audio
Speaker 2: that you may or may not produce in your journey
Speaker 2: to the Ocelle Effect. At three one nine, five two
Speaker 2: seven five zero one six, my co host b Pete,
Speaker 2: and now Jimmy James joins us on the line here
Speaker 2: at O'Kelly dot com Radio.
Speaker 8: Jimmy, Yeah, that's going on.
Speaker 9: Check.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Apparently, go ahead.
Speaker 10: I missed like the first half, so I don't really
Speaker 10: know what's going on.
Speaker 8: It just turned Danny H.
Speaker 2: And then you heard Danny disappear, right, Jimmy.
Speaker 10: Yeah, but when I called in before, it also just
Speaker 10: kicked me out, So that must.
Speaker 9: Be something that's going on at the computer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's nothing happening with my computer now, perhaps
Speaker 2: the system by which we're having calls. Anyway, I don't
Speaker 2: want to delve into this too much because I'd rather
Speaker 2: get into letting you express yourself before something else strange happens.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: But again three one nine five two seven five zero
Speaker 2: one six. I will join you the listener right now,
Speaker 2: the passive listener, straight on into the conversation after we
Speaker 2: allow Jimmy his time to say whatever he feels like.
Speaker 2: So please, by all means, Jimmy, take the floor and
Speaker 2: run with it. And my apologies for things that are
Speaker 2: apparently outside of my control. Go ahead.
Speaker 8: Yeah, no worries.
Speaker 11: Okay, So here's my question for you and b Pete
Speaker 11: and Danny.
Speaker 12: And anyone else.
Speaker 11: Okay, okay, So Christine Holmes's husband.
Speaker 13: Uh, I'm pretty sure you heard about Christine's husband.
Speaker 10: I'll take a while, guest and say it was the
Speaker 10: headline on all of your moons.
Speaker 2: A hm. Well, to be frank with you, no, it
Speaker 2: was not. I am totally unaware of what happens Christine
Speaker 2: Home's husband. I know she recently lost her to No,
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding.
Speaker 5: Wait a minute, go ahead.
Speaker 4: He uh he apparently is a cross dresser.
Speaker 5: Is that a.
Speaker 11: Jimmy, let's put this wig.
Speaker 10: This is the events as they Christine Homes was suddenly
Speaker 10: removed from her position.
Speaker 14: Right and and you'll remember that hearing They were hammering
Speaker 14: her pretty.
Speaker 15: Good about her uh spending money on her boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's that. Yeah, sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 16: And so now two or three days ago, her her
Speaker 16: actual husband, the guy she's married to, seven a bunch
Speaker 16: of freaky deep pictures to a few women.
Speaker 2: Okay, and uh.
Speaker 16: So the question is is did he do this to
Speaker 16: purposely take her political career for cheating on him?
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 8: Or are you really a fruitcake? Or are they all nuts?
Speaker 8: What's going on here?
Speaker 2: Okay? Well, just for fairness, nuts, okay, go ahead, beat
Speaker 2: any anything you want to go go first.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say I think they're all nuts.
Speaker 4: Apparently it's I've just heard passing comments about it. But
Speaker 4: what I'm trying to figure out here he sent a
Speaker 4: bunch of photos to guys or to women.
Speaker 6: He says here the.
Speaker 5: Brian online fetish model's to women.
Speaker 15: Okay, yeah, it doesn't This gone long for very long,
Speaker 15: which is what makes me find it's very suspicious time.
Speaker 8: So he got text three of those women through that
Speaker 8: uh web sega and uh starts chatting them up and
Speaker 8: sending these three women these weird pictures. I don't know.
Speaker 8: I think he honestly did a revenge.
Speaker 2: Okay, so just just so I can catch excuse me
Speaker 2: catch up here. What you're saying is that Christy No
Speaker 2: I knew she was fired. I knew there were complaints
Speaker 2: about money that she was spending excessively. She allegedly at
Speaker 2: some point wanted U her own private jet to be
Speaker 2: paid for by the federal government. She definitely used a
Speaker 2: lot of money for those commercials where she's riding on horseback,
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Right, and that we
Speaker 2: were paying for beauty treatments allegedly by our taxes. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying any of this is true. I'm just relating
Speaker 2: to you what the reporting is. I didn't delve into
Speaker 2: it too much. Some of it I looked at, and
Speaker 2: some of it I thought was definitely good fodder for humor,
Speaker 2: like I liked South Parks's South Parks excuse me, kind
Speaker 2: of like you know, dinging of her public image. I
Speaker 2: liked that it was interesting, funny, you know, her face
Speaker 2: falling off and all that her shooting her dog, right,
Speaker 2: you know, all that craziness. But what you're telling me
Speaker 2: is that a guy pulled on the Republican side what
Speaker 2: a Democrat did a few years ago. Right, wasn't there
Speaker 2: a Democratic cousband of a powerbroker in the Clinton organization
Speaker 2: overall named Uba Aberdeen? Isn't that her name? And didn't
Speaker 2: she have a husband that was sending U let's just
Speaker 2: be blood dick picks. But what you're telling me is
Speaker 2: that Christy Nome's husband was sending messages and interacting with
Speaker 2: virtual hookers online women doing only fans for either porno
Speaker 2: or direct like virtual sexual encounters one or the other,
Speaker 2: either porno or personalized porno, which you can get on
Speaker 2: only fans from usually minor celebrities. But even if you're
Speaker 2: just hot and you put your pictures out on social
Speaker 2: media one way or another as a guy, as a girl,
Speaker 2: you can definitely sell yourself online. And hey, if you're
Speaker 2: not too hot. As long as your feet are somewhat attractive,
Speaker 2: you can definitely get foot fetish things or rolling and
Speaker 2: make a living on only fans, mostly as women, but
Speaker 2: apparently dudes do it too. But wasn't there a guy
Speaker 2: b Pete that was the husband of a power broker
Speaker 2: in the Clinton organization? Who kind of it was? The guy? Yes,
Speaker 2: the guy was, Okay, we didn't get corrected. We're gonna
Speaker 2: get corrected.
Speaker 8: He was just a congressman from New York City. The
Speaker 8: guy there was Clint Group was there?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, you're you're you're talking about Dick Morris
Speaker 2: who just had a foot fetish.
Speaker 16: No, no, no, no, but.
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about foot fetishes. I only mentioned that
Speaker 2: because of only fans. Be Pete, look up, look up
Speaker 2: Anthony Wiener and see what it is I'm mixing up, please,
Speaker 2: because that's the guy I.
Speaker 5: Was mentioned Anthony, not.
Speaker 11: That he was married to.
Speaker 2: The Dammit, Jimmy, you're talking over b p. Let him
Speaker 2: let him look at what I have wrong, please, just
Speaker 2: for a moment.
Speaker 8: Good.
Speaker 4: Juma Abdeen was personal assistant to Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 5: Husban was Anthony Wader was a representative from New York
Speaker 5: in Congress.
Speaker 4: They got caught for sending salacious photos to a chick.
Speaker 4: And I cannot remember her name, but as he find out,
Speaker 4: it started out she was under eighteen when he started
Speaker 4: texting with her. Okay, let me see if I can
Speaker 4: find what the lady's name was, so both.
Speaker 2: Things are correct. As as Jimmy said, this was a representative,
Speaker 2: you know, from New York who also happened to be
Speaker 2: married to Uma Aberdeen, who was somebody who was like
Speaker 2: either running Clinton's campaign or part of the Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 5: Had assistant.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay, Well, and she had been she had
Speaker 4: been with Hillary Clinton for years and years and years. Okay,
Speaker 4: and they ended up getting divorced out of it. Let's see,
Speaker 4: let me get to the scandal park.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think after his second give wasn't it after
Speaker 2: his second scandal they got a divorce, right like it
Speaker 2: happened once he said I'm sorry and went to court
Speaker 2: and whatnot. And then he goes back and kind of
Speaker 2: does it again, but this time he's naked in bed
Speaker 2: next to his toddler, with his uh you know, business
Speaker 2: uh visible for the camera. I mean, or am I
Speaker 2: remembering that wrong too?
Speaker 5: Well, it wasn't a.
Speaker 16: Two year old account to send a link.
Speaker 8: That chick ended up making that crazy.
Speaker 10: Uh shore us the Sun by the way, So there's
Speaker 10: a nice couple for help.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I just I just saw, you know, political
Speaker 2: scandal connected to husband and I made that. Okay, sorry,
Speaker 2: my mistake. Okay, So back to it. So Christy Nome,
Speaker 2: just for what it is we are following, Uh, Jimmy,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna mute you just for a second because you're
Speaker 2: feeding back. Just hang on. I'm gonna put you back
Speaker 2: on when I'm done. But it's like feeding back and
Speaker 2: cutting into my ears, So just hang on a second.
Speaker 2: So what it is that Jimmy was saying to me
Speaker 2: is that, Okay, Christy Nome ends up not only losing
Speaker 2: her job and all that, but now apparently her husband,
Speaker 2: not the boyfriend who she was running around with, uh
Speaker 2: and spending the money on the expensive dinners allegedly right
Speaker 2: while she's in office, which people were bitching about. Apparently
Speaker 2: the actual legally married husband now got busted in a
Speaker 2: cross dressing thing that involves only fans. And he's a
Speaker 2: cross dresser, right and he's going to female hookers? Do
Speaker 2: I have this right? Bepeat? According to what you seek?
Speaker 4: Or no, he sent twenty five thousand dollars to some
Speaker 4: one of these women that he was talking to. Apparently
Speaker 4: they had pictures of him wearing fake breasts and he
Speaker 4: was chatting with these women that they call it bimbofication
Speaker 4: where they they use like saline.
Speaker 5: In their breasts to make them extremely large.
Speaker 4: It's they fetishize the woman's shape anyway.
Speaker 2: So exaggerated titties, SESSI photos.
Speaker 5: Yeah, overy much.
Speaker 2: So exaggerated, overbloated, like you know, Anna Nicole Smith. But
Speaker 2: they just fell asleep with the saline machine of pumping
Speaker 2: size wise and that's what they're into. But they're also
Speaker 2: cross dressers. I'm a little confused.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, well, no, he's the cross dresser.
Speaker 4: Yes, who was sending in the messages and all two
Speaker 4: were women.
Speaker 2: Right, But he's a cross dresser while going for the
Speaker 2: over exaggerated, super titty and ass women. Now pretty much, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm just checking. I'm trying to keep score here. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm not arguing with anybody. I'm keeping score. Yeah, go ahead, m.
Speaker 6: It says here.
Speaker 4: This was the article in the Daily Mail, says Christy
Speaker 4: Doan's cross dressing husband Byron the pouting, busty bimbo photos
Speaker 4: and the trove of explicit messages. So apparently the Daily
Speaker 4: Mail ran an article on him and that's when everything
Speaker 4: became known. And now they've got it behind a paywall.
Speaker 4: So you've got to you've got to get a subscription
Speaker 4: to the Daily Mail.
Speaker 5: To be able to read this.
Speaker 2: Okay, Oops, I accidentally hit Danny's button. Let me hit
Speaker 2: So it's a Daily Mail kind of behind a paywall deal.
Speaker 2: But all these things are going on, I just put
Speaker 2: Danny back on, but I'm also gonna add Jimmy Chames
Speaker 2: and anybody else who calls in at three one nine
Speaker 2: five two seven five zero one six. I am certain
Speaker 2: that Aaron Franz is gonna join us around ten pm Eastern, uh,
Speaker 2: and I do believe his guest will be bum Wine
Speaker 2: Bob tonight. So that ought to be interesting because I'm
Speaker 2: not sure bum Line's on the first hour, second hour.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna find out right when this show ends. What's
Speaker 2: going on today here on Ochilly dot com Radio. So
Speaker 2: let me put Jimmy back on. But just a quick
Speaker 2: warning to anybody if we're having feedback because of you know,
Speaker 2: my problematic phone system and when I speak, it's causing
Speaker 2: noise to occur on your phone line. I will mute
Speaker 2: you intermittently and try to bring you back in as
Speaker 2: often as possible with every remaining minute of the show. Shoh,
Speaker 2: So that explanation is now out there. Hopefully I don't
Speaker 2: have to do it again. But this is pretty weird
Speaker 2: with this circumstance regarding Christy Nomes's husband, because I thought
Speaker 2: I understood what was going on. Oh and by the way,
Speaker 2: Pam Bondi is now longer the head of the DOJ
Speaker 2: right b PTE. Just checking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she got booted the other day, which people kind
Speaker 4: of saw it comment.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm surprised he held on as long as he did.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised a bunch of people still have their jobs
Speaker 2: in this administration because you would have thought that their
Speaker 2: bosses would have fired them for various things that have occurred.
Speaker 2: But we are not living in the days where that
Speaker 2: is going to prevail. So you know, there you go.
Speaker 2: That's the most generic thing I can say. And I'm
Speaker 2: gonna put Jimmy back on and let's everybody try and
Speaker 2: be polite with their interactions and not talk over each
Speaker 2: other best they can. I'm going to try and back
Speaker 2: off and be quiet. Please be Pete take the lead here.
Speaker 2: But Jimmy, do I now have this situation straight about
Speaker 2: the cross dressing and who it is and everything? Or
Speaker 2: did I have something else wrong? Oh?
Speaker 9: Lord?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 14: Do you guys missed a lot of taste of headbites?
Speaker 14: Danny Shirley, you know what's going on?
Speaker 2: What I hold on?
Speaker 16: Hold on?
Speaker 11: What about what I actually asked? Do you think that
Speaker 11: this guy did this torpedo his wife's career or what?
Speaker 11: Do you think he's just really a fruitcack.
Speaker 6: I think what it is.
Speaker 1: But they're both in competition to cosplay that that's the deal.
Speaker 1: Who's going to out do the other? You know with
Speaker 1: all of her photoshopping. It could be revenge, it could
Speaker 1: be because it's just or the gnomes are just just
Speaker 1: you know, they're just wack of noodles.
Speaker 2: I apologize for not answering a question when I didn't
Speaker 2: fully unders stand what the hell you were asking because
Speaker 2: I didn't know the details, so I was trying to
Speaker 2: find that out in real time. So that's my mistake
Speaker 2: for being ill informed. But go ahead, yeah, please continue.
Speaker 2: I'll just sit back and listen.
Speaker 1: So you're saying that, Yeah, so you're saying that he
Speaker 1: sent twenty five thousand dollars for Yeah, it sounds like
Speaker 1: maybe maybe it was revenge for her behavior.
Speaker 2: Mmm, Joe Bpte, The video I saw was weird.
Speaker 6: I mean, it just it looked it was almost comical,
Speaker 6: to the point.
Speaker 2: Which video is that? Just perchance I can ask that question.
Speaker 1: I I the first time I heard my wife showed
Speaker 1: me a video of Christy Nolam's husband and he had
Speaker 1: the fake breasts and just kind of dancing around, and
Speaker 1: it just it was it was kind of comical.
Speaker 2: Why did Why did silence in the lambs in my head?
Speaker 5: Bunny?
Speaker 6: That that just sounds really off the wall.
Speaker 2: Silence of the lamb? Understand, Yeah, Silence of the lambs
Speaker 2: just popped in my head? Would you? I don't know
Speaker 2: why that in my head? Is that what it was like?
Speaker 2: Because I haven't seen it, this question?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 2: It was?
Speaker 8: It was?
Speaker 6: It was It was probably more comical than that.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was just okay.
Speaker 1: I mean what I saw and I only saw a
Speaker 1: little glimpse and I saw anyone who really see anymore?
Speaker 1: But but I mean all the cause playing she's been
Speaker 1: doing and he's doing. So they obviously have a really
Speaker 1: strange relationship. You know. That justs something to do with power,
Speaker 1: you know, when you look behind the behind the curtain,
Speaker 1: some of these folks.
Speaker 2: Listen yours, my or anybody else's judgment aside. The fact
Speaker 2: is that, you know, people in reality make all sorts
Speaker 2: and kinds of arrangements about their behaviors. You know, the
Speaker 2: open marriages and so on and so forth, where it's like, hey,
Speaker 2: you can do whatever you want when I'm away, you know,
Speaker 2: or whatever. There's a variety of arrangements. The second wife
Speaker 2: or the third husband comes into play. We're married, but
Speaker 2: there's actually five of us. You know, I've seen this,
Speaker 2: not just with polygamy, but just common people who decide,
Speaker 2: you know what, I need a wife who is my
Speaker 2: emotional support and this one over here is my physical support.
Speaker 2: And they're fine with this arrangement because the physical woman
Speaker 2: doesn't want any emotions and the emotional woman is tired
Speaker 2: of sex at this point in our lives. And older
Speaker 2: people even make arrangements like this where it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're together, but we don't even touch. We sleep in
Speaker 2: separate rooms, but we're partners. There are a variety of
Speaker 2: arrangements that people come to for even stranger reasons, and
Speaker 2: what you guys are describing. Just for the record, I
Speaker 2: want to note that that actually happens to people in
Speaker 2: power or not in power. But I guess when you
Speaker 2: have a microscope on you as a public figure and servant,
Speaker 2: these things come out. Quicker, Jimmy, do you disagree with anything?
Speaker 2: I just said?
Speaker 14: Okay, good, well the end part, you're absolutely correct. If
Speaker 14: these people are like that, then they have no business
Speaker 14: running for office.
Speaker 12: I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't say that. I just like, well, if they're
Speaker 2: public figures, that will get exposed. No, yeah, you said that. Good?
Speaker 8: Yeah, and uh yeah that's.
Speaker 17: Yeah.
Speaker 12: I find a very odd, very very odd.
Speaker 2: This is it.
Speaker 13: Uh, this is very peculiar. Yeah, it wouldn't be so
Speaker 13: peculiar if these people were I don't know, I could Yeah.
Speaker 2: What what would be not so peculiar by a chance.
Speaker 13: Well, if they'd have been Democrats? They probably celebrate miss guy.
Speaker 8: What's the big look, he's just being the real him?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, well all right, that that that's an opinion
Speaker 2: for you there, that's for sure, you know, good and.
Speaker 11: He braved him just living his truth. He's a big deal,
Speaker 11: brave em raising his tree could be. But he's not
Speaker 11: a Democrat. He's a Republican, so it's not going down
Speaker 11: so easy. I guess I don't know. I'm unfamiliar.
Speaker 4: It's it's like, not, no, we don't know that he's
Speaker 4: a Republican. I it could be like James Carvel and
Speaker 4: his wife, one on each side of the.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, or like who was that spokeswoman? Uh Conway right?
Speaker 2: The Conways too, right, where one is on one side
Speaker 2: and one of the others allegedly. Yeah, I guess it
Speaker 2: could be their book ends of the uh you know,
Speaker 2: the one party system. Sure, why not? Okay, I think.
Speaker 6: Their boat nuts.
Speaker 5: But I mean other than that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they might just be in it for self
Speaker 2: serving reasons. They really don't care about, you know, an ethos,
Speaker 2: especially one as antiquated as political parties or a general
Speaker 2: consensus on morality. I mean, why bother with that when
Speaker 2: you know there's all this power laying around to grab, right?
Speaker 2: I mean you know? Or am I wrong about that too, Jimmy.
Speaker 9: Powerful laying around?
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, power here, power there, power every day where, and.
Speaker 2: Not a drop for me? I said, you said, power here?
Speaker 2: Power there, power everywhere, And I said, not a drop
Speaker 2: for me to drink. But yeah, go ahead, I was
Speaker 2: trying to make a joke. Sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 8: Well yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 10: I don't see a lot.
Speaker 8: Of people shooting the lasers out.
Speaker 13: Of their eyes and flying around.
Speaker 9: To me, that's power.
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, people could say anything.
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't give a damn.
Speaker 8: I got two glocks. Cool, that's power.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the right circumstance, it definitely is.
Speaker 13: But people holding a political office that they could just
Speaker 13: be voted out if it's that's nothing.
Speaker 9: That's wealthare Okay, here's a new thing. I heard this
Speaker 9: really cool. What do you think about term limits.
Speaker 8: For beera crats.
Speaker 2: I've always agreed with that idea that there should be
Speaker 2: a limitation on the amount of time that you can
Speaker 2: be in a choke point of the system. I think
Speaker 2: you should only be allowed to hold said position for
Speaker 2: a limited amount of time. I've always agreed with that
Speaker 2: term limits for them, term limits for everybody in office too.
Speaker 2: I think it should be limited, not so limited that
Speaker 2: they never get to get anything done, which I almost
Speaker 2: feel like is the literal point of being in Congress
Speaker 2: at this point is to not get anything done except
Speaker 2: you know, raise money and inflate people's bank accounts. It
Speaker 2: seems to be the order of the day in the
Speaker 2: House of Representatives or alleged representation. But and I do
Speaker 2: mean on all sides, but I know I'll take clack
Speaker 2: for that. The point is that, yeah, that seems to
Speaker 2: be the general standard operating procedure if you're in the
Speaker 2: you know, House of alleged Representatives. But you know, again,
Speaker 2: just my stupidity leaking through. But Christinome was an appointed
Speaker 2: person and definitely wielded some power from her position, or
Speaker 2: at least it looked that way. You know, what do
Speaker 2: you think about the transitions we're watching here in the
Speaker 2: current administration, which of course is a definite bureaucratic word,
Speaker 2: But there are a lot of bureaucrats to go around there,
Speaker 2: and then there's the heads of these departments. I mean, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, you think they're going to start to fall
Speaker 2: one by one, anybody. I mean, if you want to start, Jimmy,
Speaker 2: go ahead, Or you think the bleeding is done with
Speaker 2: Pam Bondy, what says you, Jimmy.
Speaker 9: Well, I don't think that.
Speaker 8: Trump's just letting you guys think you want something. He
Speaker 8: doesn't care. They weren't performing, so he's getting rid of him.
Speaker 8: You didn't win just because you complain about one of
Speaker 8: their administration. Well then he finally does fire him.
Speaker 17: Who we did?
Speaker 2: Who isn't they we're talking? Okay? Who is it we're
Speaker 2: talking about with?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 2: I have a question. Who is it that we're talking about?
Speaker 6: With this?
Speaker 2: We want? But let me know what I can ask?
Speaker 8: Removed?
Speaker 11: Who is that?
Speaker 8: Anytime?
Speaker 18: Any yeah ahead, hold on any anyone in the Trump administration.
Speaker 8: Gets fired as you guys call it, order removed.
Speaker 2: As you guys against.
Speaker 16: The press likes to pretend that it was because through
Speaker 16: their narratives.
Speaker 8: And because of their fake pretend things. Yeah Trump that reasons.
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough? Uh, but who is we you keep
Speaker 2: saying every time you guys? Who are you talking about that?
Speaker 2: When you say you guys and uh, the winning and
Speaker 2: all that.
Speaker 19: Anyone that promotes or believes that it's false narratives Democrat
Speaker 19: or if you will, communist talking points?
Speaker 2: I see, are you directing that at me again? The communists?
Speaker 2: The talking points thing and democrats? Or is that where
Speaker 2: you're going?
Speaker 12: No?
Speaker 2: No, okay, no, it's who you believe though I see
Speaker 2: I know you accept.
Speaker 12: Their words both christ It's like when there's trouble in
Speaker 12: the Middle East, you go by the numbers that the
Speaker 12: the enemy lists, I.
Speaker 10: Say stuff like that, so you believe more often than
Speaker 10: that some wrong people.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, I see, you're completely miss just just
Speaker 2: for the record, you completely misrepresent what you believe. I believe,
Speaker 2: which is fascinating. I don't listen to communist talking points
Speaker 2: or even the mainstream media to get my opinions at all,
Speaker 2: but you insist upon that. I don't know, why do
Speaker 2: you think I only listen to people that are of
Speaker 2: a certain enemy. Ill, I'm rather confused by that.
Speaker 6: Actually, Chuck, Chuck.
Speaker 15: Anyone that's telling you anything other than what it's true
Speaker 15: is dangerous.
Speaker 8: I don't care who they are. They they could be Fox.
Speaker 8: I don't care.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, they could be dangerous. They could be making
Speaker 2: a mistake, they could be running propaganda. I think there's
Speaker 2: a few options there when they're pushing and presenting and
Speaker 2: promoting untruths directly and lies quite you know, persistently. I
Speaker 2: think there's a lot of ways to look at that.
Speaker 2: But I just I don't know. I don't like it
Speaker 2: that you keep directing that at me. And I don't
Speaker 2: know why, but I was. I don't want to, you know,
Speaker 2: devolve into this, but I find it interesting that it's
Speaker 2: not I think I'm in your position.
Speaker 8: It's like, it's like most people.
Speaker 2: Okay, but you're talking to me. Yeah, but you're talking
Speaker 2: to me. So I wonder you know why you say
Speaker 2: you guys you and you know you're not talking to
Speaker 2: most people. You're talking to me. So I keep wondering
Speaker 2: why it is that.
Speaker 16: I'm in I've listened thousand Okay, I'll answer that I've
Speaker 16: listened to thousands of your shows.
Speaker 8: I know I've listened to you these things out in
Speaker 8: your head on the air. Right, I know where the
Speaker 8: sources ination. But even if I did, regardless, if the
Speaker 8: information is not correct, you're not getting it from the
Speaker 8: right source.
Speaker 2: Well that's true. If I'm not getting my information correct,
Speaker 2: I'm getting it from a poor source. But you have
Speaker 2: my sources wrong. And I give you examples of so
Speaker 2: and things, but they are not, in any way, shape
Speaker 2: or form ever, exactly where I get my information from.
Speaker 2: They may represent part of where I got my information,
Speaker 2: but I don't just read one thing or ask one
Speaker 2: question or ever look at one source, especially if I'm
Speaker 2: making a presentation on anything. So I find it remarkable
Speaker 2: that you think you know what my sources are when
Speaker 2: I'm making You know, a lot of times my sources,
Speaker 2: frankly are me. You're reasoning through things and looking at
Speaker 2: raw data and information. And I need to know this answer,
Speaker 2: not because I want to argue with you, but because
Speaker 2: I have this frustration where over the years I've met
Speaker 2: people constantly tell me where I'm getting my information from.
Speaker 2: And it's amazing because no matter how many times I
Speaker 2: explain it, I can't get through to people where I'm
Speaker 2: getting my information from. I'm failing to communicate that and
Speaker 2: I'm been doing it for a decade now, and no
Speaker 2: matter what I do, I cannot convince somebody who years
Speaker 2: that I got my information from X y Z, because
Speaker 2: it's you know, in opposition to them, uh, that that's
Speaker 2: not where it came from. It came to other things.
Speaker 2: I just that's all I'm just I.
Speaker 9: Want to I want to learn the links at the
Speaker 9: end of when you do your shows, you post your links.
Speaker 2: You do that. I do, yes, I post links that
Speaker 2: are a you can't post every if you tried to
Speaker 2: post every link that I actually go through for those
Speaker 2: sources and stories, I could not get through one headline, uh,
Speaker 2: and actually have enough room. They limit your space.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 2: I read dozens of documents, stories, et cetera in order
Speaker 2: to cover one thing at a minimum, unless we're grabbing
Speaker 2: something and I know nothing and we're just reading from
Speaker 2: it on the air, and that's me discovering something, and
Speaker 2: therefore is you know, it is incumbent upon me to
Speaker 2: fossow up on it, for sure. But when I present
Speaker 2: those links intentionally, like like I sometimes do, it's because
Speaker 2: they are very small slivers of where part of the
Speaker 2: information came from, so that people have a source to
Speaker 2: go to outside of just my opinion, which is meaningless
Speaker 2: in the grand scheme of things. My opinion means nothing
Speaker 2: if you want the absolute truth, it's just my opinion.
Speaker 2: So I try to give slivers of where you know,
Speaker 2: some things came from here here, here. But I can't post,
Speaker 2: you know, three hundred articles or three hundred articles, you know,
Speaker 2: study guides. I went through people's manuals, government documents, you know,
Speaker 2: forms that people filled out. All the stuff I read.
Speaker 2: If I had to present all of that, every show
Speaker 2: would be a three volume set of encyclopedia is at
Speaker 2: a bare minimum for you know, just the current events
Speaker 2: of twelve hours of the day, because that's the level
Speaker 2: at which I take it seriously and go at it.
Speaker 2: So it's like, I find it depressing that none of
Speaker 2: that is communicated to somebody who has listened to me.
Speaker 2: It's it hurts me because I'm obviously a failure. I'm
Speaker 2: not getting across the amount of work that I put.
Speaker 2: I don't read a story from CNN and go, well,
Speaker 2: that's truth. I trust CNN. I can't even imagine being
Speaker 2: that retarded, so, you know, and I wouldn't do it
Speaker 2: with Fox CNN. I'll make the same example as you
Speaker 2: did the independent alleged independent media. I'm not going to
Speaker 2: the young Turks for my opinions, you know. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to whoever the YouTuber of the day is, whether
Speaker 2: it's Candae Owens or what's that Ben Swan? What is
Speaker 2: that guy's name?
Speaker 6: Ben?
Speaker 2: The guy who's got the Yama kan what's his name?
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what Isa Ben who Shapiro? Thank you
Speaker 2: Ben Shapiro, very good. I don't go to Joe Rogan,
Speaker 2: I don't go to Alex Jones. I might check something
Speaker 2: they're doing, or get a piece of information and try
Speaker 2: and explore it and examine it from one of them maybe,
Speaker 2: Or I might get it for Sean Hannity because he
Speaker 2: mentioned something. Or I might get it from the black
Speaker 2: girl on Cennate. What's that? I'm sorry?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sorry. I stopped on a dime to try
Speaker 2: and get it what you were saying, Tucker Carlson. You
Speaker 2: know the latest online rage don Lemon. I checked that
Speaker 2: out because he was getting arrested for that church thing.
Speaker 2: I tried to follow up on that because he happens
Speaker 2: to be the person of interest who is voluntarily broadcasting.
Speaker 2: But I don't buy his story because anybody who's under
Speaker 2: arrest and has lawyers engaged, guess what, they're definitely doing
Speaker 2: a spin because that's the only thing you can do
Speaker 2: in the alleged legal systems. So you know, I might
Speaker 2: check on him to say, what's he saying about this?
Speaker 2: But then I got to check with law enforcement releases,
Speaker 2: press releases, raw data, and general news stories, and how
Speaker 2: about we check the facts on this? Does this even
Speaker 2: makes sense? Can somebody get down this street at six am?
Speaker 2: Could you possibly pay a toll at a bridge, you know,
Speaker 2: check into things, do a little research, actual research, not
Speaker 2: just reading somebody else's opinion. I actually do all that,
Speaker 2: and somehow I don't make that clear to anybody. I guess,
Speaker 2: so I am truly an idiot because I do all
Speaker 2: this work for it to go unheard, unknown, and pointless,
Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, I'm believing in
Speaker 2: a communist source. When you say it, some other people
Speaker 2: used to scream that I was a right wing lunatic,
Speaker 2: believe it or not, because I believed in guns. And
Speaker 2: guess what, I don't think everybody needs a vaccine and
Speaker 2: nobody should be forced to take one, because I think
Speaker 2: you have a right to your own body and to
Speaker 2: control what goes in and out for you and your children.
Speaker 2: So I was a right wing nut job conspiracy theorist,
Speaker 2: which I found hilarious, and then I was a liberal scumbag.
Speaker 2: Then it was a hippie. Then I went back to
Speaker 2: for a little bit. I was a dangerous anti government patriot,
Speaker 2: like you know, one of those. I was on Patriot
Speaker 2: radio and Patriot panel discussions and all that. Before you know,
Speaker 2: MAGA got a hold of the patriot movement in this country.
Speaker 2: Funny thing. I had a lot of friends online that
Speaker 2: were living in the state of Michigan like you, because
Speaker 2: there was a high concentration of guess what, militious up there,
Speaker 2: A bunch of them.
Speaker 9: No, yeah, it's a big fairy tale.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's not a Okay, you can call it a
Speaker 2: fairy tale. When I'm talking to people and rotcheous excuse me,
Speaker 2: I'm watching them do their meetings. I know some of
Speaker 2: these people. They used to be on shows like you
Speaker 2: ever heard of Prepper Chicks?
Speaker 6: Yeah? You ever a show of them?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 11: Rastespots and they're all getting paid by sorrows.
Speaker 9: I tay touch of the articles again.
Speaker 2: But they're right wing, they're not left wing. But anyway,
Speaker 2: the Prepper chicks right. But then there's various militia groups.
Speaker 2: Before that wolverine nonsense, that was totally Feds. You know,
Speaker 2: that Michigan wolverine they were supposed to, you know, kidnap
Speaker 2: the governor or whatever. That was just a FBI fabrication.
Speaker 18: In the early nineteen nineties, when Bill Clinton got into
Speaker 18: all this, there was indeed some so called Michigan militiaus
Speaker 18: starting to form.
Speaker 11: Because they said they heard he was going to pass
Speaker 11: a law just confiscate everyone's guns.
Speaker 8: That's right, and he did.
Speaker 2: And you know what else, there was also a bunch
Speaker 2: of people that get all bent into shape when the
Speaker 2: branch Davidians got burnt up, and that was during the
Speaker 2: Clinton administry and Jan Reno was responsible for that. But
Speaker 2: there was also Randy Weaver, who, indeed, if he was
Speaker 2: a racist or not, as irrelevant, his family, his dog,
Speaker 2: you know, didn't need to be murdered, and his wife
Speaker 2: holding their infant child having her brains blown out was
Speaker 2: kind of an injustice and one that was absolutely horrifying
Speaker 2: in this place we call America. But he was definitely
Speaker 2: a militia kind of guy too. But I'm talking about
Speaker 2: people I knew people.
Speaker 9: He was a total separatist.
Speaker 2: Okay, he was a separatist whatever. But the point is,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 9: Okay, there ain't enough.
Speaker 8: I just he can't be serious.
Speaker 13: Remember how everyone made up that.
Speaker 11: Thing about Trump.
Speaker 8: Okay, I'm not talking about people on both sides. You see,
Speaker 8: I can't talk about the statue.
Speaker 6: I can't tell about.
Speaker 9: But the guys complains about there was less than fifteen
Speaker 9: people that showed up.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're now who you're battling. Yeah, yeah, we're ten
Speaker 2: minutes into two thousand people. Okay, wrong again, we're ten
Speaker 2: minutes into Aaron's show. Here's the thing. I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: People that I was on the radio with who were
Speaker 2: actual human beings who held shows, did militia based podcasts
Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen and twenty thirteen when I first started
Speaker 2: people that are that Michigan.
Speaker 4: Are you serious?
Speaker 9: I'll side me the document again to.
Speaker 8: Show you these people were paid.
Speaker 2: Okay, so nobody's not real, Okay, nobody. Here's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I was talking to people I was and doing radio
Speaker 2: shows and people that you're telling me weren't real in
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen and twenty three.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'll send you the doc. It's okay.
Speaker 2: Twenty fourteen and twenty thirteen, I was talking to many
Speaker 2: people that were actively involved in having militia type groups,
Speaker 2: and I don't care about the spin on it. I
Speaker 2: was defending them anyway. What just happened? What was that noise?
Speaker 2: Holy Craft? Oh? I lost somehow I lost b Pete. Okay,
Speaker 2: hang on, let's try and call bell. Waitan Danny's here.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to call Be Pete back live on teams Aaron,
Speaker 2: hang on a second. I'll get right to you. Because
Speaker 2: these incomplete answers at the end of something drive me nuts.
Speaker 2: I want somebody to help me because I must be insane.
Speaker 2: I must be insane because Be Pete. Are you there?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, no, hang on, Communist. I'll get to you in
Speaker 2: a minute, Danny, uh, be Pete, Be Pete. Okay, you
Speaker 2: know where that came from. Be Pete. Thank you, You're welcome.
Speaker 2: Now shut up, red Pinko, whatever you call it. I
Speaker 2: don't know whatever we want to call you. Be Pete.
Speaker 2: You hung up or you got disconnected?
Speaker 5: No, I got kicked off somehow, Okay.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry about that. So, so here's the thing. I'm insane,
Speaker 2: me Pete. I am completely insane. I need help, I
Speaker 2: really do, because figments of my imagination. I'm not talking about.
Speaker 2: You gotta help me, Jimmy, you gotta help me. I'm insane, Okay,
Speaker 2: politically wrong, I'm politically wrong. You don't even know my politics,
Speaker 2: and I'm politically wrong. You know nothing?
Speaker 8: Yeah you.
Speaker 2: Okay, So you selectively have chosen positions for me. I
Speaker 2: got news for you. They're not my positions. This is
Speaker 2: why I'm saying I have lost my mind. I have
Speaker 2: absolutely lost my because the reality in which Jimmy is
Speaker 2: correct about me is not I don't even know who
Speaker 2: this dude is he's talking about. I believe in people's rights,
Speaker 2: and I do mean their rights to determine, to determine
Speaker 2: for them. Listen, listen how you cut me right down.
Speaker 2: Listen to you cut me right down and don't even
Speaker 2: hear out the complete sentence.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm you need to use the mute button.
Speaker 2: Lore No, it's just I don't want to fight with Jimmy.
Speaker 2: I want to understand why in the hell he has
Speaker 2: the absolute worst I mean, it's like it's like somebody
Speaker 2: rolled dice and decided to ascribe things to me. I mean,
Speaker 2: the things you're saying make no sense to me because
Speaker 2: these are not my political views that you keep pushing.
Speaker 2: I'm not a communist at all, you know, I believe
Speaker 2: that our system is broken.
Speaker 8: At the end of the day, you're on the exact
Speaker 8: wrong side.
Speaker 9: What the hell difference does it make?
Speaker 2: Well, Okay, help me find well. I haven't been fooled
Speaker 2: because I go my own direction to my own detriment
Speaker 2: constantly and don't seem to fit in with anybody, So
Speaker 2: I don't know who's leading me. But just real quick,
Speaker 2: just one thing. I need this answer. I want everybody
Speaker 2: to hang on and then we'll do just like a
Speaker 2: chaos minute and then I want to get right to
Speaker 2: Aaron because we're on his time. But this, this is
Speaker 2: necessary tonight. I am absolutely dumbfounded that people who speak
Speaker 2: like you and think of me the way you do, Jimmy,
Speaker 2: are literally destroying my ability to even begin to tell
Speaker 2: you what side I'm on. Constantly. They're doing that to
Speaker 2: me all the time, and I don't know what because
Speaker 2: you know what's funny, I'm actually more on your side
Speaker 2: than you think about a lot of things, except Donald
Speaker 2: Trump is a useless piece of garbage. Outside of that,
Speaker 2: Outside of that, you'd be surprised at the things you
Speaker 2: have dead wrong about me. I'm not talking about figments
Speaker 2: of my imagination when I talk to you about people
Speaker 2: that I interacted with, did business with, did shows with.
Speaker 2: At a certain point, people that I met face to face. Now, look,
Speaker 2: anybody could be a government agent. At any time. I
Speaker 2: could have entirely run into nothing. But at the Lancer conferences,
Speaker 2: at the corner store and everything else. And that could
Speaker 2: be true, but I tend to think I've encountered real
Speaker 2: people who were doing things like radio shows and were
Speaker 2: actually getting on TV and starting their own little networks
Speaker 2: and actually doing podcasting before everybody and their grandmother had
Speaker 2: a podcast. And they were all about gun rights, and
Speaker 2: they were all about you know, canning your food and
Speaker 2: growing your own food. This is where they everything comes
Speaker 2: in and you know, don't let big pharma screw you
Speaker 2: over and poison you. And oh, by the way, our
Speaker 2: government is not under the control of the people. That
Speaker 2: was their thought. They were part of what they called
Speaker 2: the patriot movement. They definitely barely touched libertarianism in their
Speaker 2: political beliefs. And those were most of the people I
Speaker 2: was associating with on say ucy dot TV, where you know,
Speaker 2: there was uh, what do you call it? There was
Speaker 2: god what was it called? With the Primer time with
Speaker 2: the guys who literally devoted two hours on I think
Speaker 2: it was every Wednesday to nothing but guns. And then
Speaker 2: there was prepper chicks so that you could take care
Speaker 2: of your whole family and make sure you had your
Speaker 2: guns and everything ready for the upcoming apocalypse. No, no,
Speaker 2: I'm just giving you a snapshot. I'm not even going
Speaker 2: through all of it. And there were guys who were
Speaker 2: on there.
Speaker 6: Well happen.
Speaker 11: That you think, Okay, I'm not going to complete.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not going to complete it. I don't think
Speaker 2: it is. What is I'm telling you that? Okay, I
Speaker 2: surrender because I can't make my point. I fail to
Speaker 2: make my point.
Speaker 16: I'm sure for ten fifteen minutes straight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't. Right, I said plenty of things. I
Speaker 2: have my chance. Stop no, stop yelling at me. That
Speaker 2: is not going to stand. You're just screaming at me.
Speaker 2: Please calm down. I'm overtaking time here for you to
Speaker 2: scream at me. I don't understand where where that's a
Speaker 2: good idea. I want to be your friend. I want
Speaker 2: to talk to you. I don't want you screaming at me.
Speaker 2: You get that now? Please? Can I put you back on?
Speaker 2: Can we talk to each other for a moment or
Speaker 2: I'll let you talk. Don't scream at me like I'm
Speaker 2: a freaking drooling idiot. Please? Is that an you know?
Speaker 2: Is that a a a poor? Is that an over
Speaker 2: the line request to you? Don't scream at me and
Speaker 2: just speak and allow me to speak so I can
Speaker 2: complete my idea. You think I'm not making any sense,
Speaker 2: You're not hearing what I'm saying, or I am a
Speaker 2: babbling moron. I apologize if I'm a babbling moron, But
Speaker 2: can we please not have you scream at me and
Speaker 2: tell me to shut up and it's your time to talk.
Speaker 2: You're not the host, and I don't need to have
Speaker 2: you screaming at me when I'm already invading Aaron's time.
Speaker 2: Please take your time make your point. I will shut
Speaker 2: up and close out the show now, allowing you to
Speaker 2: lead off the point. Please, if you will do it
Speaker 2: without screaming at me, line is open, floor.
Speaker 8: Is yours, praise Jesus.
Speaker 14: Okay, Chuck, after screaming for fifteen minutes, tells me not
Speaker 14: to raise my voice.
Speaker 2: Oh, I did not realize I was screaming. If I
Speaker 2: was sorry, go ahead. I did not think I was screaming.
Speaker 2: I go ahead. My mistake.
Speaker 11: Yeah, well, I wasn't screaming anymore than you were.
Speaker 8: Believe me, when I start screaming, you'll know.
Speaker 2: Okay, then I misinterpreted the way you were speaking to me. Okay,
Speaker 2: I leave that to the judgment of the people that
Speaker 2: can hear it. Okay, fair enough, go ahead, please proceed.
Speaker 14: Yeah, and all you're doing with that ten fifteen minutes
Speaker 14: of blaber and stuffs, just trying to.
Speaker 18: Talk me out when you could just make say the
Speaker 18: same thing with saying two or three things.
Speaker 2: I'm begging.
Speaker 8: To deal with.
Speaker 12: We're not genuine Republicans, they were not conservatives, they were
Speaker 12: not constitutionalists.
Speaker 8: Okay, they don't even vote. They're paid agitators.
Speaker 2: Peace, Okay. Is that the end of your Okay? I
Speaker 2: guess that's the end of that for Jimmy. So uh
Speaker 2: interesting that people that don't vote were voting. We're running
Speaker 2: voting drives, and we're running things like the campaign against Monsanto,
Speaker 2: and we're also literally out there campaigning for political candidates
Speaker 2: and registered voters who also believed in gun rights and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. So I apologize for that, but again,
Speaker 2: you pin in accurate information on what I'm trying to
Speaker 2: tell you. Did I raise my voice and yell at you?
Speaker 2: If I did, I apologize, wasn't mind? Ted Danny by
Speaker 2: all means say something so we can bring this to
Speaker 2: a conclusion, bring it to be fear, and then I'll mars.
Speaker 1: I'll make a couple quick points. One, there can be
Speaker 1: people that can be very independent. I have never thought
Speaker 1: of you as a lefty or in my genre, and
Speaker 1: I've kind of been pretty tame about my a lot
Speaker 1: of my points. But I've always considered myself more of
Speaker 1: an independent. It's more to the left. I considered you
Speaker 1: more of an independent that is, more of a kind
Speaker 1: of a libertarian independent.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm the anti anti.
Speaker 6: My father's conservative politics.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Can I ask one Questionvative Republic?
Speaker 2: I'm sure? Can I just ask one question right there
Speaker 2: at that particular point, please, do you maybe categorize me
Speaker 2: as an anti establishment kind of person in general that
Speaker 2: may indeed dance across the left and the right wing
Speaker 2: ideologies and even into some strange territory that belongs to
Speaker 2: neither in a sort of anti establishment fashion. Is that
Speaker 2: something you see in me? Or am I again retarded
Speaker 2: because I cannot project this, And that's where I am
Speaker 2: actually at. I'm against the established conventions as they stand,
Speaker 2: and I don't think that we at all times we
Speaker 2: should do better than we are at all times, and
Speaker 2: we are edging into very bad territory in the establishment,
Speaker 2: is my opinion. In general, So I'm an anti establishment
Speaker 2: kind of person, I think, and independent certainly, but maybe
Speaker 2: I'm totally wrong, and I apologize, but I just wanted
Speaker 2: to see if you've got that sense from me at all. Well,
Speaker 2: I speak, so please proceed by all means. You were
Speaker 2: talking about your father and you said something reminded you
Speaker 2: of your father. I forget what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some of the things that he says reminds me
Speaker 1: of a lot of my father, not in total that
Speaker 1: it just reminds me of him. He was a lifelong conservative.
Speaker 1: I mean, so I get that nowhere, Where can I
Speaker 1: get some of this source money? I mean, I'm a
Speaker 1: bed wedding liberal. I would like to get some of
Speaker 1: that money.
Speaker 6: How do I get get? How do I could use
Speaker 6: a few extra books?
Speaker 2: Fair enough? I know?
Speaker 6: And where do you get? And where do you get
Speaker 6: the communist talking points? And another question?
Speaker 1: Yeah's actually read the Communist Manifesto?
Speaker 2: Well how about.
Speaker 6: Karl Marx that I dicop at all three volumes? Have
Speaker 6: read it twice. Yeah, I've also read Adam Smith. Right,
Speaker 6: I'm glad to talk about it.
Speaker 2: No, I read all those and of course Seoul and
Speaker 2: a bunch of other things.
Speaker 6: I'm not a communist and I read I'm not a communist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I read Marx and Lenin, and I also read
Speaker 2: various Asian uh you know, philosophies regarding governance, as well
Speaker 2: as a bit studied, even though I don't advertise it
Speaker 2: into the Italian and Roman trajectories, as well as the
Speaker 2: Greek philosophers. I've studied lots of different philosophies and the
Speaker 2: the concepts of engineering and guiding societies in various ways.
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily subscribe to any of them. So, and
Speaker 2: I've also read the Bible, by the way, which has
Speaker 2: a ten played for ruling of society and running a
Speaker 2: couple of different you know, empires during certain time periods,
Speaker 2: as well as the study of empire is something that
Speaker 2: I've done independently. Maybe I've done it inadequately, but I've
Speaker 2: gone around the the sort of gauntlet or the spectrum,
Speaker 2: if you will, of various things that have eventually all
Speaker 2: systems fail. But that is what I note from history
Speaker 2: as I am allowed and able to read it. Perhaps again,
Speaker 2: I'm a moron, but I try not to be. But please,
Speaker 2: anything you.
Speaker 1: Want to conclude here, Jimmy, Sure, to Jimmy's credit, I mean,
Speaker 1: Jimmy just has very strong beliefs. They're his opinions, his beliefs,
Speaker 1: So if he hears something contradictory, it's he's suspicious. And
Speaker 1: I think that he's just airing his suspicion here. But
Speaker 1: like I said, I mean, we're all in ton of
Speaker 1: our opinions. But I'm I don't know where you get
Speaker 1: communist talking points. I mean I've heard that. For I
Speaker 1: remember when Caesar Chadis, who's now disgraced, Good riddens that
Speaker 1: he that it came about. You know, he came into
Speaker 1: this town, that farming community I was in, and I
Speaker 1: had an uncle. He just he was so infuriated because
Speaker 1: the priest said something kind of positive about him, and
Speaker 1: he goes, well, he's a communist. And my uncle, my
Speaker 1: great uncle, he drove down the street went to a
Speaker 1: different Catholic church because he was so incensed, you know. So,
Speaker 1: I mean it was ron as a slur. And like
Speaker 1: I said, I've written Mars, I've read all of it.
Speaker 1: But guess what, I'm not a communist. I don't agree
Speaker 1: with everything. There's certain aspects I can say I can
Speaker 1: glean from it, just like a lot of people have
Speaker 1: rid The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith. They only
Speaker 1: can quote maybe one part of it, but they never
Speaker 1: actually read it, you know, and understand.
Speaker 2: And in fairness, I've also studied various theocracies, as the
Speaker 2: Catholic Church was and to my opinion, is, a ruling
Speaker 2: party on the Grand table of global governance. But of
Speaker 2: course I also had to deal with the generational issue
Speaker 2: of you know you people of course that came from
Speaker 2: somewhere else certainly are being dictated to and are run
Speaker 2: by your King in Rome, who there's a point he had.
Speaker 2: You know, I've heard that before, because the majority of
Speaker 2: my family is Catholic, all across the board. They're either
Speaker 2: you know, the Irish being Catholics, or they're the Sicilian
Speaker 2: Catholic for the most part, with some of them being
Speaker 2: secretly pagan, to be honest with you, but wearing the
Speaker 2: garb and the mask of Catholicism some of them for
Speaker 2: their entire lives, you know, sort of like a gay
Speaker 2: guy wearing a beard some of them. Actually it's so extreme,
Speaker 2: but you know what I'm saying. Anyways, all that aside, though, Danny,
Speaker 2: is there anything you'd like to drop here on Good Friday?
Speaker 2: As we approach Easter Sunday, which may or may not
Speaker 2: still be important to you and everybody else.
Speaker 1: Oh it's really Easter Sunday is my favorite. This is
Speaker 1: my favorite holiday. This is like I said, faith, family, fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it just stresses off and I would just leave, which
Speaker 1: I take Jimmy, I think in the goodness of his
Speaker 1: heart he said peace, So peace be with everybody, and
Speaker 1: especially Jimmy. He's just got perturbed, so right, and take that.
Speaker 1: He's play all around a good guy. And I hope
Speaker 1: you too have a good discussion where you can have
Speaker 1: you both back and forth. Guys have a little block communicating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, something right at some point, Danny, I would much
Speaker 2: appreciate being able to have that back and forth that
Speaker 2: has done, you know, in a respectful manner and everything else,
Speaker 2: and where we can actually hear and accomplish things from
Speaker 2: one another. Perhaps perhaps I could learn something I believe
Speaker 2: at all times, no matter what, no matter, anyone you encounter,
Speaker 2: even if they do appear to be complete classical idiots
Speaker 2: at some points, and some people might appear to be geniuses,
Speaker 2: and all appearances may be deceptive at some point. Here's
Speaker 2: the thing. Anyone you encounter who is able to articulate.
Speaker 2: Anything has the capability to teach you something if you're
Speaker 2: willing to absorb it. So that is my attitude, and
Speaker 2: maybe it's actually the only part of my optimism that
Speaker 2: has survived throughout my life. But at this moment, I'm
Speaker 2: struggling to survive. I'm struggling to stay eating and in motion.
Speaker 2: I am literally regaining my ability to have the full
Speaker 2: spectrum of being able to move, to have my actual modality.
Speaker 2: My ambulatory skills are diminished. I am having trouble learning
Speaker 2: to walk, and I'm dealing with a lot of pain
Speaker 2: and damages. What you're being somewhat addressed at this point,
Speaker 2: I'm dealing with doctors and evaluations and etc. So that
Speaker 2: is really the true main focus. And I may have
Speaker 2: missed the news story about the cross dresser. I apologize,
Speaker 2: but you know I didn't catch that. That wasn't at
Speaker 2: the top of my new speed this week. Her getting
Speaker 2: fired and people going, yeah, bitch, you needed to go
Speaker 2: because she was wasting a lot of money sounds very
Speaker 2: typical to me. But that was the starting point that
Speaker 2: eventually became you believe this, you see this, this is
Speaker 2: the way you think, and he says, because he's heard
Speaker 2: me a lot. But you know what, if you've listened
Speaker 2: to and selectively only heard what you wanted to hear
Speaker 2: for ten years, it doesn't matter if you heard from
Speaker 2: me for ten minutes or ten years. You do have
Speaker 2: me wrong. And I'm taking responsibility for that by saying,
Speaker 2: you know what, I have failed to communicate because he's
Speaker 2: not the only one. He's just the only one that
Speaker 2: actually calls up and comes at me with it. But
Speaker 2: other people do it in emails, messages, you know, actual
Speaker 2: attempts to undermine and take things away from me and
Speaker 2: get me canceled and cut and take away money. Jimmy James,
Speaker 2: in all fairness, actually contributes to the network once a month, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, you know, I'm in danger of not
Speaker 2: being able to pay for, you know, a very important
Speaker 2: thing that keeps the network going in around tax day.
Speaker 2: It's April fifteenth that it's due. I have no idea
Speaker 2: how I'm gonna pay it. I got a birthday coming
Speaker 2: up again. I'm struggling to walk and keep everybody that
Speaker 2: I know and love fed, including some dogs. Oh by
Speaker 2: the way, if you're in the making, George Area, I
Speaker 2: have a new set of puppies if you need a
Speaker 2: brand new, fresh, bigger dog, not small dog puppy because
Speaker 2: my little guy was fixed. But missus Ooh found somehow
Speaker 2: a way to bring a straight dog into the house
Speaker 2: that drop puppies. So we have these big, beautiful, big headed,
Speaker 2: dark puppies that are going to be park pitbull and
Speaker 2: park god knows what, but they are muscular, beautiful, and
Speaker 2: right now they're in the other rooms squeaking, and we're
Speaker 2: trying to keep our little dogs separated from the puppies
Speaker 2: which are going to quickly outsize and outpace my little dogs,
Speaker 2: and we're going to have a dangerous situation. I have
Speaker 2: to give away a lot of dogs anyway, just saying
Speaker 2: that's the end of that. I'm done talking. But Danny,
Speaker 2: your final, like ten seconds, go ahead, beat Pete, and
Speaker 2: then we gotta get Aaron Franz on here for whatever
Speaker 2: he wants to do. Please go ahead.
Speaker 6: Happy Easter, Happy Easter, Joy and peace to everybody.
Speaker 2: There you go. That's Danny, be Pete as I sit
Speaker 2: here and do what it is I can do. We
Speaker 2: never even got to our little argument that went on
Speaker 2: off air. I'm tired of arguing. I don't want to
Speaker 2: do it. I want to see eye to eye and
Speaker 2: I want to stop failing to make myself clear. That's
Speaker 2: where I'm at. I apologize for anything I've done where
Speaker 2: I've misled anybody, because never was that my intent, and
Speaker 2: never do I intend to be misled or accept any
Speaker 2: b And every time I got people telling me that,
Speaker 2: screaming it, echoing it, all you're doing really is injuring
Speaker 2: anything I can present that's shared in a podcast because
Speaker 2: I'm a moron. So now I'm a babbling moron. So
Speaker 2: please find a way for me to stop being a
Speaker 2: babbling moron, so I can stop putting people in a
Speaker 2: position to do nothing but shrink what it is I'm doing.
Speaker 2: I want to go back to speaking to a lot
Speaker 2: of people and you know, presenting ideas and encouraging independent thought.
Speaker 2: That's what I want to do. Either that or I'd
Speaker 2: rather spin records, but nobody's supporting either one. As a
Speaker 2: way for me to like say, hey, look if you
Speaker 2: get value from this present value in depends of Jimmy James.
Speaker 2: He simultaneously makes contributions to the show and basically calls
Speaker 2: me a communist and somebody who's easily misled and believes
Speaker 2: in CNN and stuff, and it's just I don't know
Speaker 2: what to do after years of it. And I have
Speaker 2: the same problem with my co host on occasion, but
Speaker 2: it's not as extreme where I can't communicate properly. I
Speaker 2: am failing to make this right, and I don't want
Speaker 2: to because I used to think that I could always
Speaker 2: at least communicate, but apparently I'm such a useless piece
Speaker 2: of crap. I can't do that either. So I literally
Speaker 2: seriously want somebody to help me to make things clear.
Speaker 2: B Pete, I don't want you to address that. Maybe
Speaker 2: next week we'll get to it. I want fair time
Speaker 2: for you, so please, you know, say whatever's on your mind.
Speaker 2: Easter message, peace, love. And I really wish I had
Speaker 2: more friends. I really wish I had more brothers. And
Speaker 2: I've got nobody face to face outside of missus Oh
Speaker 2: and Frankie to talk to. That's all I have in
Speaker 2: my world and all of my studies. That is all
Speaker 2: I have. And now I'm starting to try and collect
Speaker 2: baseball cards. But on a low budget, you can only
Speaker 2: do what you can do, and plus I got other
Speaker 2: priorities like making sure we have enough food on a
Speaker 2: day to day basis, which is a struggle, especially when
Speaker 2: you're struggling to walk, get out of bed, or even
Speaker 2: you know, make it to the toilet. In times you
Speaker 2: don't be on yourself. Not because of the pe problem,
Speaker 2: but because again ambulatory. I'm not one hundred percent ambulatory,
Speaker 2: and I have damages that are hard to heal, and
Speaker 2: I'm having difficult time because I'm older now, I'm not
Speaker 2: bouncing back as quick and honestly, I was injured way
Speaker 2: worse than I'm allowing anybody to know. So I apologize
Speaker 2: for that personal tirade. And if it sounds like I'm
Speaker 2: whining or being a bitch, fine, fine, not what I
Speaker 2: mean to do. I don't want to be weak. I
Speaker 2: don't want to be misinformed. I don't want to misinform.
Speaker 2: And all I really want to do is make anybody
Speaker 2: that here's what I do a little bit better, not worse.
Speaker 2: Everything I encounter, I want to improve it, give it
Speaker 2: a gift. Have us work together to learn better so
Speaker 2: that we are not overwhelmed and overruled by people who
Speaker 2: do not deserve by the powers that should not be
Speaker 2: and do not deserve to be in any position of
Speaker 2: power over any of us, because at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, you have your business with God, and then
Speaker 2: or God's or whatever it is you think is the
Speaker 2: highest authority, and then you have the business with yourself,
Speaker 2: which is you should be determining what is best for
Speaker 2: you and those you love, and nobody should interfere with that.
Speaker 2: And maybe that makes me a communist. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm confused.
Speaker 6: Be pete.
Speaker 2: By all means it's yours, Flora.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, all right, well, I'll let you get to
Speaker 4: air and we'll discuss some of this stuff offline.
Speaker 5: But yeah, just go ahead and get to air. And
Speaker 5: he's already. We're already thirty five minutes into his time.
Speaker 5: I know we started late, but let's not be any
Speaker 5: more rude than they have to and let him get into.
Speaker 6: Good night, everybody, Thank you, my brother.
Speaker 2: Thank everybody for listening. I'm o'chelly. I guess whoever's hearing
Speaker 2: me right now may not be the effect, but some
Speaker 2: of you are, and a lot more of you could
Speaker 2: be join us and do that, and hopefully we'll just
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe if we actually hear each other
Speaker 2: and work together, we could serve each other by rising together.
Speaker 2: Happy Good Friday, Easter and all that, and my birthday
Speaker 2: will be on Tuesday, so I will be live on
Speaker 2: AM wake up on Monday, and I never know what
Speaker 2: happens there because on there I had Corey Hughes recently,
Speaker 2: and I got a guy with a Zionist heavy JFK
Speaker 2: theory who made some sense. But still, you know, I
Speaker 2: got problems there. But I'm going to actually study his
Speaker 2: stuff because at all times I try to have the
Speaker 2: most open minds.
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