Speaker 1: It's nice side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you by
Speaker 1: Constance video.
Speaker 2: Now, thank you very much. Okay, we're gonna have some
Speaker 2: fun this hour. This is incredible. If you're going to
Speaker 2: New York this weekend, on Sunday, specifically, you will be
Speaker 2: one of the first people in New York City. And
Speaker 2: I don't know if we had this in any other
Speaker 2: cities around America, but New York, probably San Francisco now
Speaker 2: that I think about it. But in New York they're
Speaker 2: going to start congestion pricing on Sunday. So if you
Speaker 2: have an easy pass and you drive down there, you'll
Speaker 2: be charged if you drive into certain sections of the city.
Speaker 2: Now it's not as simple as all that, but but
Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, I'm looking into my crystal ball,
Speaker 2: and what happens in New York City this Sunday will
Speaker 2: soon be happening in Boston, and it will be happening
Speaker 2: in Baltimore, and it will be happening in Philadelphia and
Speaker 2: Buffalo and every other city with Manchester, well maybe not Manchester,
Speaker 2: New Hampshire, but every major city in America. The folks
Speaker 2: who run the cities in America, they have a few
Speaker 2: things in common. They don't mind criminal behavior. They're not
Speaker 2: really anxious to put bad people in jail and get
Speaker 2: them off the streets. No no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: But the thing that they really like is they like
Speaker 2: to harass people who drive automobiles because you and me
Speaker 2: are the enemy. That's why when you see bike lanes
Speaker 2: sprouting everywhere, that is not an effort to say we
Speaker 2: welcome motor vehicles. No, quite the opposite. And the ultimate
Speaker 2: game plan is congestion pricing. Now, the governor of New York,
Speaker 2: Kathy Hokeel, if there's a dumber governor in America, I
Speaker 2: will accept nominations, but I defy you to find a
Speaker 2: dumber governor in America. This is Kathy Hokeel a few
Speaker 2: days ago explaining congestion pricing, and she is going We're
Speaker 2: going to play three sound bites for you. Just listen
Speaker 2: to what this governor says. She basically says, she explains
Speaker 2: what congestion pricing is. And then she says she tries
Speaker 2: to tell you that with congestion pricing and it costing
Speaker 2: you more money to drive into pretty much anywhere in
Speaker 2: Lower Manhattan, that she's going to save you forty percent.
Speaker 2: This will give you insight in how the minds of
Speaker 2: politicians work. They look at your money as their money. Now,
Speaker 2: I know you don't believe me, but when you hear
Speaker 2: these three sound bites, you're going to agree with me.
Speaker 2: So let's first of all, listen to Kathy Hokeel talk
Speaker 2: about how wonderful congestion pricing will be for everyone. Cut
Speaker 2: one rob.
Speaker 3: I have made affordability for New York families a top priority.
Speaker 3: I always have and I always will fight to put
Speaker 3: more money in the pockets of everyday New Yorkers. That's
Speaker 3: why back in June, I set up on behalf of
Speaker 3: hard working families and simply said no No to a
Speaker 3: new fifteen dollars congestion. Told that at that particular time
Speaker 3: was just too much. Too many people were worrying about
Speaker 3: high costs, groceries, rent, childcare. These are real challenges for
Speaker 3: our families, and launching a toll that high really would
Speaker 3: have hurt a working mom or working dad trying to
Speaker 3: make ends meet, especially someone driving in from a transportation
Speaker 3: desert or far from outside the center of the city.
Speaker 2: Boy, she's wonderful, isn't she. She's just wonderful. She's going
Speaker 2: to save us money. No she's not. No, she's not.
Speaker 2: Instead of charging you fifteen dollars a day or every
Speaker 2: time you drive into this area, she's only going to
Speaker 2: charge you nine dollars. And she now is going to
Speaker 2: try to tell you that she's saving you forty percent.
Speaker 2: Think about what she's saying. We're gonna play the second
Speaker 2: sound bite now, in which she is actually going to
Speaker 2: try to make the argument that she me is saving
Speaker 2: you money by charging you nine dollars. This is the
Speaker 2: way her mind, and the minds of many progressive politicians work.
Speaker 3: Cut to rub As governor, it is my job to
Speaker 3: make decisions that take into account the needs of all
Speaker 3: working New Yorkers. So I made the decision to put
Speaker 3: the congestion pricing program on pause while we devise a
Speaker 3: different path forward. State law requires that congestion pricing simultan
Speaker 3: simultaneously raise money for the MTA and drive down traffic congestion.
Speaker 3: These are important priorities, but I believe that no New
Speaker 3: Yorker should have to pay a penny more than absolutely
Speaker 3: necessary to achieve these goals. And fifteen dollars was too much.
Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, what a hero, What a hero. So remember
Speaker 2: she's still trying to tell you that she is working
Speaker 2: for you. She is working for you. So she's about
Speaker 2: to tell you that instead of charging you fifteen dollars
Speaker 2: every time you drive into New York City, she's only
Speaker 2: going to charge you nine dollars. She's saving you forty percent.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's like going to a loan shark and
Speaker 2: having the loan shark say to you, look, you don't
Speaker 2: have to pay me back one thousand dollars a week.
Speaker 2: You got in order, you got to pay me back
Speaker 2: six hundred dollars a week. If you don't pay me
Speaker 2: back six hundred dollars a week, obviously i'm gonna break
Speaker 2: your legs. But I'm gonna save you four hundred dollars
Speaker 2: because I'm really a good guy. Well, that's like a
Speaker 2: robber coming in your house and asking you how much
Speaker 2: money do you have in your house here, and you say, well,
Speaker 2: I have three hundred dollars, and the robber says, okay,
Speaker 2: I'll only take two hundred. So I'm really going to
Speaker 2: save you one hundred. Okay, So they're going to take
Speaker 2: two hundred dollars of The robber is going to take
Speaker 2: two hundred dollars of your money, but he's going to
Speaker 2: save you one hundred dollars. Now you don't believe me
Speaker 2: that that's the theory of Governor Kathy Hokeel Cut three Rob.
Speaker 3: And I'm proud to announce we have found a path
Speaker 3: to find the MTA, reduce congestion god and keep millions
Speaker 3: of dollars in the pockets of our commuters. Under this plan,
Speaker 3: the MTA will implement a congestion pricing plan with a
Speaker 3: reduced daytime toll of nine dollars beginning in January. You've
Speaker 3: heard that correctly. It was fifteen dollars before and now
Speaker 3: it is nine dollars. That is a forty percent reduction.
Speaker 1: This tall.
Speaker 3: We'll save daily commuters nearly fifteen hundred dollars annually, and
Speaker 3: that kind of money makes a big difference for our families.
Speaker 2: You will say fifteen hundred dollars annually, but you will
Speaker 2: pay twenty five hundred dollars for congestion pricing. This to
Speaker 2: me is just insane. And if New Yorkers do not
Speaker 2: stand up and rise and say, what do you think
Speaker 2: we're stupid? We're do what do you think we're absolute?
Speaker 2: I mean stupid? I mean talk about adding insult to injury.
Speaker 2: She thinks that by telling you we were going to
Speaker 2: charge you fifteen, now we're going to only charge you nine,
Speaker 2: that means you'll save six dollars a day. Multiply that over.
Speaker 2: Let's say you are going in and out to New
Speaker 2: York City two hundred times to save you're twelve hundred
Speaker 2: dollars a year. No, it's not. It's gonna cost you
Speaker 2: eighteen hundred dollars a year. And let me tell you,
Speaker 2: by the way, I have the congestion pricing relief zone.
Speaker 2: They call it a relief zone. It's not a relief
Speaker 2: zone for drivers, is it now? Okay? They call it
Speaker 2: the opposite of what it is. The MTA is phasing
Speaker 2: in the toll structure over a six year period so
Speaker 2: that it will be nine dollars for cars to start,
Speaker 2: it will be twelve dollars in twenty twenty eight, and
Speaker 2: it will be fifteen dollars in twenty thirty one. Small
Speaker 2: trucks they're gonna pay fourteen forty. Large trucks, tour buses
Speaker 2: will pay twenty one sixty At just unbelievable. What's gonna
Speaker 2: happen is if you keep putting democrats in charge of
Speaker 2: a big American cities. Big American cities will go absolutely,
Speaker 2: they will be shadows of what they once were. If
Speaker 2: you don't think it's coming to a city near you,
Speaker 2: trust me, now is the time to speak up against it. Okay.
Speaker 2: One of the things about this country is freedom. Freedom
Speaker 2: to travel. Okay. And there should be no cost associated
Speaker 2: with driving in or out of New York City, because
Speaker 2: when you drive in and out of New York City,
Speaker 2: you are paying through the nose. You pay through the
Speaker 2: nose for your hotel room, you pay through the nose
Speaker 2: to park your car overnight if you're lucky, you pay
Speaker 2: through the nose. To the restaurants you go to, you
Speaker 2: pay through the nose if you buy anything in New
Speaker 2: York City. All this is going to do is say
Speaker 2: to people, look, they are just picking my pocket every
Speaker 2: minute of the day that I'm in New York City.
Speaker 2: I don't need New York City. I don't need New
Speaker 2: York City. I can find other cities that I can
Speaker 2: go to and enjoy myself. And I can look at
Speaker 2: pictures of New York City. They will kill New York City.
Speaker 2: Go to New York City, drive the empty ride in
Speaker 2: the MTA, and try not to get shoved in front
Speaker 2: of an oncoming train. Go to New York City and
Speaker 2: nod off in a subway system and hope that someone
Speaker 2: doesn't light you on fire. Six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 2: If you don't think that they are watching in Boston, Massachusetts,
Speaker 2: and in Washington, DC and everywhere everywhere, every big city,
Speaker 2: this is just another scam to pick your pocket. My
Speaker 2: name is Dan Ray. I believe so strongly in what
Speaker 2: I have said and the hypocrisy and the absolute arrogance
Speaker 2: of Governor Kathy Hockel to think that she could sell
Speaker 2: that to you as a cost savings boggles my mind.
Speaker 2: I'd love to hear from you. Join the conversation. B
Speaker 2: right back on night Side.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: to night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: By the way, if if if you don't believe me,
Speaker 2: you don't want to believe what you just heard, uh
Speaker 2: you know, check it out, go joke, check out congestion
Speaker 2: relief zone. It's wonderful how they they call this. And
Speaker 2: now again, as Rob mentioned during the break, even if
Speaker 2: you live in New York, let's assume you live in
Speaker 2: New York and you don't have a car and you
Speaker 2: don't care about it. By by the way, uh taxis
Speaker 2: and for higher for higher vehicles, uh instead of paying
Speaker 2: the daily toll taxis and for higher vehicles licensed with
Speaker 2: the NYC Taxi and Limos Commission will be eligible for
Speaker 2: a smaller per trip charge paid by the passenger for
Speaker 2: each trip two from within and through the congestion relief zone.
Speaker 2: So they have bought off the taxi cab drivers in,
Speaker 2: the uber drivers and the lyft drivers. They're okay. But
Speaker 2: if you're driving your car in, it goes for both
Speaker 2: the peak and overnight period. The per trip charge for
Speaker 2: high volume for higher vehicles will be a dollar fifty.
Speaker 2: For taxi, green cabs and black cars, the per trip
Speaker 2: charge will beat seventy five cents. So if you're a
Speaker 2: wealthy New Yorker and you want to take a limo in,
Speaker 2: it's going to cost you seventy five cents additional. How
Speaker 2: about that? Huh? How about that? And of course the
Speaker 2: cars of government officials like Governor Hochel, they don't have
Speaker 2: to pay anything, but the porschemuck like you or me
Speaker 2: that have to work in New York City, You're going
Speaker 2: to end up paying nine dollars a day, five days
Speaker 2: a week. And oh, by the way, all of the
Speaker 2: trucks that deliver the commercial products that New York City
Speaker 2: or any city needs to run, small trucks, single unit trucks,
Speaker 2: some buses will pay a toll of fourteen forty during
Speaker 2: the peak period, three point sixty during the overnight period.
Speaker 2: Large trucks, tour buses will paid twenty one sixty. All
Speaker 2: those costs are going to be passed on to you consumers.
Speaker 2: If you're living in New York right now and you
Speaker 2: want to defend your governor, I'd love to hear from you,
Speaker 2: Or if you're living in New York and you are
Speaker 2: as appalled as I am that the good people of
Speaker 2: New York would have elected her governor. This is insanity.
Speaker 2: Is it is built on the need, the theoretical need
Speaker 2: for climate change. I mean, that's what these folks really
Speaker 2: what drives them. Okay, the al Gore theories on the
Speaker 2: John Kerries of the world, who will never pay a congestion,
Speaker 2: you know, fee or cost ever. Ever, the people who
Speaker 2: fly around to the conferences around the world and their
Speaker 2: private jets and talk about global warming. But the thing is,
Speaker 2: I am telling you what she is talking about coming
Speaker 2: to New York this weekend, becoming to wherever you live.
Speaker 2: If you happen to frequent a large city. Now, if
Speaker 2: you live in Reading, Pennsylvania and you never have to
Speaker 2: go to Philadelphia, you'll be okay. If you live somewhere
Speaker 2: in western Maryland you have to never have to go
Speaker 2: to Washington and Baltimore, you're okay. I guess if you
Speaker 2: live in the Berkshires and your chooes have to come
Speaker 2: into Boston, you're okay. I'll never go to New York again.
Speaker 2: I will never ever ever go to New York again.
Speaker 2: Let's go to phone calls. I got a bunch of
Speaker 2: lines here, folks. If you are quiet on this topic,
Speaker 2: we'll move on and we'll we'll talk about maybe what's
Speaker 2: your favorite color or something like that. Six one, seven, two,
Speaker 2: five four ten thirty six one seven nine three one
Speaker 2: ten thirty. I think sometimes people think that I'm I'm
Speaker 2: not telling you I'm trying to do a piece of satire. No,
Speaker 2: I'm not doing satire. This is truth. This is truth.
Speaker 2: So Zann used to live in New York. New York
Speaker 2: is is very different place these days. Is in Welcome Back?
Speaker 4: Well then I had various roommates and in New York
Speaker 4: and I'm in Massachusetts. But you know what's illegal on
Speaker 4: the streets of New York is three card Monty, where
Speaker 4: the guys have three cards and there's a price under one,
Speaker 4: but you never get it. That's what Kathy Hilchem is
Speaker 4: doing with New York City. She don't all to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think you're right on that. And
Speaker 2: the point is for her to try to tell you,
Speaker 2: or me or the people of New York because she's
Speaker 2: really not talking to me that somehow she's going to
Speaker 2: save you money, save you money by only charging you
Speaker 2: nine dollars, and that's going to save them fifteen hundred
Speaker 2: dollars a year. How stupid does she think?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 4: You can get a taxi in New York You either
Speaker 4: share it or you walk, or you take the subway,
Speaker 4: or you just give up and say home. If you
Speaker 4: if you take the subway, maker and you take the.
Speaker 2: Down please rob. If you take the subway, you were
Speaker 2: taking your life into your hands. People in New York
Speaker 2: City are pushed in front of moving subway trains. The
Speaker 2: woman that was lit on fire, grew up apparently in
Speaker 2: New Jersey. So New York is not the place, Susan
Speaker 2: bringer back is not the place that that you knew
Speaker 2: many years ago. It has changed.
Speaker 4: Down anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Susan. Appreciate you, Carl, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Talk to you soon. Have a great night. Good night
Speaker 2: to me. It's it's unbelievable that we as citizens are
Speaker 2: so compliant with what these politicians feel they can impose
Speaker 2: upon us. I mean, we all understand. I think that
Speaker 2: taxation is the price of civilisation. I get all of that.
Speaker 2: I get all of that. But to try to tell
Speaker 2: people we're only going to charge you nine dollars and
Speaker 2: we're going to save you money absurd. Let me go
Speaker 2: to Audrey in Cambridge. Audrey, welcome next time. How are you?
Speaker 6: Oh, I'm fine, Thank you.
Speaker 5: Dan.
Speaker 6: I had to call because you know, and I know
Speaker 6: the next city that'll be doing this after maybe after Boston,
Speaker 6: will be Cambridge.
Speaker 2: Oh, Cambridge I'm sure is chopping at the bit and
Speaker 2: followed close.
Speaker 6: They have destroyed our city. I mean, it's just unbelievable.
Speaker 6: Between the bike lanes and of course the bicyclist do
Speaker 6: not have to obey any traffic rules at all. Oh okay,
Speaker 6: and the stores are suffering. I mean, this has been
Speaker 6: going on and they're just now they're they're they're in
Speaker 6: the process of redoing Cambridge Street. They've done every other
Speaker 6: possible street they can do. Uh, and it's it's nageous
Speaker 6: and it just gives that cream the statement the inmates
Speaker 6: are running the asylum. I mean, it's just crazy, you know,
Speaker 6: and I can see what's happening.
Speaker 2: How stupid do you think Governor Hokeel thinks her constituents
Speaker 2: are to stand there and say to them, well, we
Speaker 2: are going to charge you fifteen dollars, but I intervened
Speaker 2: and we're only going to be charged nine. So you're
Speaker 2: going to save fifteen hundred a year. Can you imagine that?
Speaker 6: No, you don't have to be a mathematical genius to
Speaker 6: see that. I mean, it's just incredible that he would there,
Speaker 6: she would think that people. That's stupid.
Speaker 2: Do you know how much we spent? Do you know
Speaker 2: how much was spent? I found out last night from
Speaker 2: State Senator Nick Collins. Guess how much Boston has spent
Speaker 2: on bike lanes? Take a guess, wild guest.
Speaker 6: Oh god, I don't even want to think about it.
Speaker 2: Take against take a guess ten million dollars, twenty million.
Speaker 6: Dollars, oh oh oh, at least I'd say twenty at
Speaker 6: least at least.
Speaker 7: Underd to twenty one, one hundred and twenty one billion dollars.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, And that's from bike lanes for
Speaker 7: the two percent of the people in the winter who
Speaker 7: will drive their bikes, you know, between I don't know,
Speaker 7: Thanksgiving and Memorial Day rights, right, it's it's insanity.
Speaker 6: And the thing with the environment what kills me is
Speaker 6: I've been thinking of all these kinds and the traffic patterns,
Speaker 6: so bizign now that they stalled, you know, sitting in
Speaker 6: traffic and all those films are coming into the environment,
Speaker 6: and they don't think that way.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: The other thing, the other thing that that they do.
Speaker 2: And of course, if you really think it through here,
Speaker 2: which we're going to do right now, is uh you
Speaker 2: look at Cambridge on the map and you think to yourself, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's a community that you know there has some cars
Speaker 2: and all of that. If we can if we can
Speaker 2: stop them, if we can make them compliant and and
Speaker 2: and put nothing into the atmosphere that's going to save
Speaker 2: the planet. Even though those companies and those countries in Pakistan, India,
Speaker 2: China are belching stuff up into the atmosphere. But I'm
Speaker 2: sure they think that, we think that all the stuff
Speaker 2: that Pakistan and and and and China, uh and and
Speaker 2: Indonesia belt into the atmosphere just kind of stays over
Speaker 2: those countries and it doesn't affect us.
Speaker 6: Oh, I'm sure that's what they think. I'm sure that's
Speaker 6: what they think, you know. I mean, it's just one
Speaker 6: thing after the other. I mean, it's just but this.
Speaker 6: I had a call. I said, oh my gosh, I
Speaker 6: can't regeally the next city to do this. I mean,
Speaker 6: these crazy people that are running out of city.
Speaker 2: It's well, you know, they done it in London, done
Speaker 2: it in London for years. Uh. And of course, the
Speaker 2: people who were never impacted by this, uh, the uber
Speaker 2: wealthy who probably working working into their uh you know,
Speaker 2: into their contract with law firms or whatever where where
Speaker 2: they have a car. They get a leased car. They
Speaker 2: don't have to pay for anything their employer. But the
Speaker 2: average person, the guy who's a plumber and he has
Speaker 2: some classes in New York City, he's the he's the person.
Speaker 2: She's the person who's gonna have to pay for it.
Speaker 2: And again it's just the arrogance. When I looked at
Speaker 2: her and I thought to myself, you must think your
Speaker 2: constituents are morons. Now again, if yeah, maybe she's right,
Speaker 2: maybe they are. And if there are people listening in
Speaker 2: New York tonight, and if you're happy with Governor Hulkel,
Speaker 2: give us a call and tell us why it's well,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you something. It's one of these mad as hell.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to take it anymore. That's how I feel,
Speaker 2: right well.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I mean we're battling things here
Speaker 6: all the time in Cambridge, as you know. I mean,
Speaker 6: it's just it doesn't seem to do any good, but
Speaker 6: you still have to keep fighting, you know. I Mean
Speaker 6: we went against I don't know how many bicyclists of
Speaker 6: a city hall one night just to delay the Cambridge
Speaker 6: Street thing. And there were hundreds of them. When I
Speaker 6: tell you what, little kids, little kids that could barely speak.
Speaker 6: They put them up to the microphone and everything, and
Speaker 6: there were two of us, but we had four hundred signatures.
Speaker 6: So at least regard it's delayed. But that's not going
Speaker 6: to stop it, you know.
Speaker 2: That's the problem. That's the problem, and the problem is
Speaker 2: it will never stop until their goal is to be
Speaker 2: in all private automobile traffic in Cambridge, in Boston, in
Speaker 2: New York, and they're going to make it, make it expensive,
Speaker 2: and then eventually they're going to say it's so expensive.
Speaker 2: We don't want to impose this on anyone. So everyone
Speaker 2: now has to take take take the take the the
Speaker 2: MTA in New York. Uh, and just make sure that
Speaker 2: no one pushes you in front of an oncoming train,
Speaker 2: or no one lights you on fire if you happen
Speaker 2: to nod off or sitting on a bench in the
Speaker 2: subway station. Think about that, think about that. Take your
Speaker 2: life in danger, put your you know, take your life,
Speaker 2: and just just kind of roll the dice anyway, Audrey,
Speaker 2: I love your calls. You got to call more off.
Speaker 6: Okay, thank you so well, Thanks so much.
Speaker 2: Happy New Year, Audrey, Thanks very much. Six ten thirty,
Speaker 2: six one seven thirty. That's the best line right now.
Speaker 2: I get two open lines there, six one seven nine.
Speaker 2: Maybe you don't think congestion pricing is going to be
Speaker 2: an issue in Boston, Well you're wrong. It won't be
Speaker 2: an issue because we have a mayoral election coming up
Speaker 2: this November. But I guarantee you that once New York
Speaker 2: puts it in, Boston will not be far behind. And
Speaker 2: it affects everyone, not just people in Boston, but people
Speaker 2: come into Boston. So get on the record, join the conversation.
Speaker 2: Back on Nightside right after this, at ten o'clock, we're
Speaker 2: going to change topics and we're going to talk about
Speaker 2: a new law in the state of Florida called the
Speaker 2: Halo Law. We'll explain that as well, and then at
Speaker 2: eleven tonight we will talk about your twenty twenty five
Speaker 2: New Year's resolution. So if you want to weigh in
Speaker 2: on this dial now we're coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
Speaker 1: news radio.
Speaker 2: He're listening to us for the first time. Welcome to
Speaker 2: Nightside with w With Dan Ray and w Easy. We
Speaker 2: are talking about the implementation of congestion pricing in New
Speaker 2: York City. Beginning on Sunday, cars going into New York
Speaker 2: City and of course throughout the week, nine dollars every
Speaker 2: time they go anywhere in what Manhattan meaning south of
Speaker 2: Central Park, and the Governor of New York Kathy Hlkel,
Speaker 2: who has to be one of the dumbest governors in America.
Speaker 2: And believe me, it is a It is a competition
Speaker 2: in that category. A competition is basically saying to people,
Speaker 2: we're saving you money because we're not going to charge
Speaker 2: you fifteen dollars. It's unbelievable. Let's keep rolling. You're going
Speaker 2: to go to Alex in Stoughton, Alex next on nightside.
Speaker 2: Welcome Alex. How are you.
Speaker 8: I'm doing well. I just really quickly want to talk
Speaker 8: about I think all of this comes back to greed.
Speaker 8: I think there are you know, politicians on both sides
Speaker 8: of the aisle, doesn't matter who we are. We live
Speaker 8: in a time where greed sort of reigns supreme. And
Speaker 8: I think you look at people. You know, what happened
Speaker 8: with the United Healthcare CEO, and on both sides of
Speaker 8: the aisle, there was, you know, celebration, whether whether that
Speaker 8: was appropriate or not, people celebrated because you see them.
Speaker 2: You know, I gotta be honest with you, Alex. If
Speaker 2: your goal is to, uh, you know, in any way,
Speaker 2: shape or form, celebrate that now look uh no, no,
Speaker 2: that guy, that guy, that guy shot someone in cold
Speaker 2: blood in the back. And I understand that. I do
Speaker 2: understand that. However, here's the problem. Here's the problem government has.
Speaker 2: Their appetite is just enormous. No matter how much money
Speaker 2: you and I give the government, they're gonna want more.
Speaker 2: And this is just another way. It's a scam to
Speaker 2: get into your pockets. In my pockets, I will never
Speaker 2: go back to New York City for a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of reasons. One, I've been on the train in New
Speaker 2: York City. I don't want to take my life in
Speaker 2: my hands anymore. They can't control people getting pushed in
Speaker 2: front of moving trains in New York City. Their concern
Speaker 2: is getting extra money out of people who gonna drive.
Speaker 2: I've been in New York City. Why would anyone go
Speaker 2: to New York City at this point in their lives exactly.
Speaker 8: You know, it's rough when a government is telling you, hey,
Speaker 8: you need to take money out of your pocket to
Speaker 8: go to the city where you work and live. How
Speaker 8: are you supposed to do that, especially when people aren't
Speaker 8: making enough to live in general, right by the way.
Speaker 2: But also alex by the way, in New York not
Speaker 2: only of course, like every American, do you pay federal
Speaker 2: income taxes, but in New York you also pay state
Speaker 2: income taxes. There are some states where you don't pay
Speaker 2: state income taxes. People are moving to those states, like Florida,
Speaker 2: South Carolina and Tennessee New Hampshire, Texas. But then New
Speaker 2: York City. If you work in New York City, you
Speaker 2: pay a city tax, so you've got to pay.
Speaker 8: It's a bysinal that they would and they would take
Speaker 8: this money out of pockets of hard working Americans. It's
Speaker 8: absolutely abysmal. I don't agree with it at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then also the governor thinks, did you and I
Speaker 2: are so stupid, say, wasn't that great? She was going
Speaker 2: to charge us fifteen dollars a day, but she's only
Speaker 2: going to charge us nine to start, so we're really
Speaker 2: saving double six dollars a day.
Speaker 8: It's from people who just need more money or trying
Speaker 8: to get more money out of out of people's pockets,
Speaker 8: and you know, it's it comes back to that greed,
Speaker 8: you know. And I really wish that there were more
Speaker 8: people who would say, hey, no, we can't be that
Speaker 8: greedy as politicians or people at the top, but that
Speaker 8: doesn't exist anymore. It's a very you know self centered,
Speaker 8: self interested world we're living in right now.
Speaker 2: And just legislature in Massachusetts does just vote themselves big
Speaker 2: pay raise exactly? What was the last pay raise? You got?
Speaker 9: Out periods?
Speaker 8: So what you know?
Speaker 2: What when was your last pay raise?
Speaker 10: Exactly?
Speaker 9: While in my current job, you got it?
Speaker 2: You got it? Hey, Alex, thanks for calling and calling
Speaker 2: more often? Would I appreciate your call? I appreciate you call.
Speaker 2: Good night. Let me go to Mark in Austin. Mark
Speaker 2: next time nights? I go ahead? Mark? Is Mark there?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: I hit? Did hit the button? Go ahead and Mark?
Speaker 2: That was my mistake, hit the button.
Speaker 11: I'd like to call your attention to a story which
Speaker 11: appeared in the Sunday Globe a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 11: and it seems that about two thirds and two thirds
Speaker 11: of the cases where UH funding new public transportation programs
Speaker 11: around the country was on the ballot voters. The voters
Speaker 11: voted for it. And you know, do.
Speaker 2: You think do you think the voters would would Mark?
Speaker 2: You live in Boston, right, sure, you live in Brighton.
Speaker 2: What type of car do you drive?
Speaker 11: I don't have a car.
Speaker 2: Ah, Okay, so you would not. So therefore Boston.
Speaker 11: Nineties and have never looked back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if Boston were to come up with congested pricing,
Speaker 2: whereby people who had to drive into the city would
Speaker 2: have to pay money like in New York, that wouldn't
Speaker 2: bother you would well, I you could be honest with me.
Speaker 11: Mark, it isn't officially on the table.
Speaker 2: I don't care if it's on. I'm telling you more.
Speaker 11: I keep hearing from my fellow MBK writers.
Speaker 2: Mark, Mark, communication problem here, take car down if you would. Mark,
Speaker 2: we're having a little communication problem here. I asked you
Speaker 2: kind of a direct question. You don't have a car.
Speaker 2: I asked you a trick question. I asked you what
Speaker 2: type of car did you drive? And you gave me
Speaker 2: an honest answer. You don't drive a car, so therefore
Speaker 2: you could care less if if people if gas prices rose,
Speaker 2: or if congestion pricing rose. Correct, you don't have a
Speaker 2: dog in that fight. Correct, you can answer the question.
Speaker 11: Look, I am impressed by how much work. So obang
Speaker 11: the A N B T A.
Speaker 2: We're not talking, Mark, Can I ask you one question?
Speaker 2: I gotta peg him down again. Mark, Why is it
Speaker 2: that you're incapable of answering a direct question? Bring them up?
Speaker 11: Easing Uh? R OTC guy.
Speaker 2: Okay, r O t C. Have a great night Mark.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about r o TC. Some night Mark is
Speaker 2: a very difficult caller to deal with. I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's an attention deficit disorder issue or if it's
Speaker 2: just unwilling to answer direct questions. But that's what we
Speaker 2: do one night side. I'll ask you a direct question.
Speaker 2: You can ask me a direct question, you know I can.
Speaker 2: I will tell you I will never drive to New
Speaker 2: York City again. I will never go to New York
Speaker 2: City again. If you catch me in New York City,
Speaker 2: you can call me a liar. I have no interest
Speaker 2: in ever being in New York City again. And if
Speaker 2: Kathy Hochel is not the single dumbest politician in America,
Speaker 2: she is so arrogant she's telling people. When you think
Speaker 2: about it, if you heard the beginning of the hour,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna play the sound bites again. She basically said,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna save you money because we were gonna charge
Speaker 2: you fifteen dollars and now we're only gonna charge you nine,
Speaker 2: So I'm saving you six dollars a day. Think about that.
Speaker 2: That's what that is. The bs that she's spreading to
Speaker 2: her constituents. Get her out of there. We'll be back
Speaker 2: on nightside. I got open lines at six, one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty. That's the number to call. Gonna change topics
Speaker 2: at ten o'clock. Talk about a new law in the
Speaker 2: state of Florida that I actually support. It's called the
Speaker 2: Halo Law. We'll explain. Coming back on nights side, we
Speaker 2: have Tina in Wonsaka. She's up next to Robin Woobert.
Speaker 2: Coming back on nightside.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray Mine from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ the news radio.
Speaker 2: For those of you who are a little confused and
Speaker 2: listening to w RKO, we are going to continue here
Speaker 2: until about ten o'clock. You could join us at any night,
Speaker 2: any weeknight from A to midnight on WBZ for Nightside,
Speaker 2: a little bit of an opportunity to get some exposure
Speaker 2: to w r k O listeners. Hope all of you
Speaker 2: doing well. Let's go to Tina in Munsaka, Rhode Island. Hi, Tina,
Speaker 2: how are you tonight?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 12: Hi Jane, Yeah, I'm doing I'm doing fine.
Speaker 2: And when you think about congestion, pricing and the Governor
Speaker 2: of New York.
Speaker 12: Well, what I think is this. I'm gonna put a
Speaker 12: political stint on it on Why why I called in?
Speaker 12: They should have left former Governor Como in office. I
Speaker 12: liked him, and I think just because he had these
Speaker 12: little sexual escapade p.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, we call them piccadillos, right, piccadillos kind
Speaker 2: of like kind of like Bill Clinton.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I got Joe Killington. Yeah, it wasn't a big
Speaker 12: deal at all. So I just had to say that.
Speaker 2: Okay, well that's okay. You know what, you brought a
Speaker 2: different point of view to the table and you said
Speaker 2: it directly, and guess what, we had a We had
Speaker 2: a lovely conversation, which I always have with you. So
Speaker 2: thanks very much, Tina. And are you going to New
Speaker 2: York anytime? Sooner or no?
Speaker 6: No way?
Speaker 12: If I go on anyway, it's gonna be Boston, Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: Well come on up to Boston, and when they get
Speaker 2: congestion pricing year, you won't be you won't be able
Speaker 2: to drive without paying more money too. But it'll it'll
Speaker 2: be coming right after the the this this falls election
Speaker 2: in Boston, I predict. Thanks Tina, have a great weekend
Speaker 2: and happy New Year, Happy New Year.
Speaker 4: Over.
Speaker 9: Thank you, Thanks Dan, talk.
Speaker 2: Soon, Thanks very much. We go to Robin Ruburn. Rob
Speaker 2: you next time nights. I want to try to get
Speaker 2: everyone in here, Rob, go right ahead.
Speaker 10: Hey Dan, how's it going, brother?
Speaker 2: I think he's go find tonight. Go right ahead, Rob,
Speaker 2: what's you're taking all of this?
Speaker 10: Well, if you want to talk about New York, here's
Speaker 10: a guy on YouTube named Cash Jordan. This guy has
Speaker 10: a lowdown on the migrant situation, the traffic situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, what I'd rather have you do is tell
Speaker 2: me what your opinion is, because I got to be
Speaker 2: honest with you. Well, let me be honest with you
Speaker 2: to take him down. Rob. Let me be honest with you, Rob.
Speaker 2: Just listen to me for a second. I don't like
Speaker 2: to promote other podcasts. We do a podcast it's called
Speaker 2: Nightside on Demand. Every night, all of our hours are
Speaker 2: posted on Nightside on Demand. So I'm in the business
Speaker 2: of promoting WBZ Boston's news radio Nightside, my program, which
Speaker 2: is on Monday through Friday night from eight and to midnight,
Speaker 2: and our podcast Nightside on Demand. So I'm really not
Speaker 2: interested in in in hearing much about some guy who's
Speaker 2: got a podcast in New York.
Speaker 10: But go ahead, you can Mustang and I drive into
Speaker 10: Boston into Brookline regularly. I am a medical marijuana patient
Speaker 10: and I go to the Brickline dispensary. If you guys told,
Speaker 10: if you guys instituted condestant pricing in there, I would
Speaker 10: stop going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I would agree with you. I would agree
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 10: Cambridge the same way. I wouldn't go to anywhere in Cambridge.
Speaker 2: Well, good, yea to micro Center.
Speaker 10: I'd go to micro Center for my computer part. I
Speaker 10: wouldn't go to micro Center Nore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Michael said, it's a pretty nice place. I've been
Speaker 2: there recently. They've got some people over there who are
Speaker 2: very helpful. It's one of the stores that, yeah, that
Speaker 2: I've been to. Oftentimes you'll hear me talk about some
Speaker 2: of the big box stores. You go up to the
Speaker 2: people wearing the orange aprons and you say, can you
Speaker 2: tell me what asle you have hammers in? And they
Speaker 2: look at like like you're asking for an airline ticket.
Speaker 2: And I generally will say, gee, I'm sorry, I thought
Speaker 2: you worked here. Thank you very much. Hey, Rob, do
Speaker 2: me your favorite call back again?
Speaker 10: Okay, I appreciate you.
Speaker 2: YouTube, Happy New Year, that's Cake Roland. You're gonna go
Speaker 2: to Jason in Danvers, Massachusetts. Welcome to rightside. Jason, got
Speaker 2: to turn that phone down. Why don't you put Jason
Speaker 2: on hold? And we lost Jason there. That's okay, Jason.
Speaker 2: If you want to want to call back, you can.
Speaker 2: He got a little confused. Let me go to Sandy.
Speaker 2: There's an open line here if you'd like six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty Sandy in West Roxbury, Sandy. How those bike
Speaker 2: lanes are doing in West.
Speaker 5: Roxbury, Well, people ride them backwards more often than that.
Speaker 5: They ride in the middle lane, you know, the one
Speaker 5: that's for turning in for God. Another thing is a joke,
Speaker 5: but you know the thing then, I'm very disappointed in
Speaker 5: you because, I mean, think about it. Now, how are
Speaker 5: they going to pay for their raises? If they don't raise.
Speaker 2: Money, that's a good I mean you know something, dw.
Speaker 5: I mean they can't possibly live on two hundred and
Speaker 5: sixty thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 2: I mean the sacrifice that the Speaker of the House
Speaker 2: is making for us UH and the Senate President, it's
Speaker 2: public it is public service. I mean they're doing it
Speaker 2: out of the goodness of their heart, because frankly, they
Speaker 2: could be if they weren't, you know, in the positions
Speaker 2: of leadership at the House of Representatives, they probably could
Speaker 2: be I don't know, you know, inventing new rocketry, uh,
Speaker 2: probably finding the cure for diseases. But they feel that
Speaker 2: their public service at the legislature is a much greater
Speaker 2: gift to society. I can't tell you how strongly I
Speaker 2: agree with you that they're doing it for us. They're
Speaker 2: screwing us for us so.
Speaker 5: Many people, but who's I mean, I get so frustrated.
Speaker 5: That's why I don't call sometimes, because this is just
Speaker 5: nothing to say. I mean, there's people robbing us blind
Speaker 5: and they're lining their own pockets. Not all of them,
Speaker 5: some of them really are public servants.
Speaker 2: But I think that the state auditor who's attempted to
Speaker 2: audit the state legislature, Diane Zaglio, is a true public servant. Uh.
Speaker 2: And and I mean that honestly.
Speaker 5: I think, well, why did you walk across the state
Speaker 5: to prove a point? I mean, you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I also think the state treasure I think that deb Goldberg.
Speaker 2: Those are two Democrats who I respect and admire. I
Speaker 2: think she's done a good job. We run the lottery,
Speaker 2: which is a way in which tax revenue, you know,
Speaker 2: revenue is raised for the cities in towns. It's not
Speaker 2: tax people participate in a program voluntarily, they get some
Speaker 2: form of entertainment. It's better to have people paying the
Speaker 2: lot playing the lottery than betting on football games and
Speaker 2: lining the pockets of of of the sports betting community
Speaker 2: in my opinion. But you know, that's that's just my thought.
Speaker 2: I don't know Kathy Hockel, though. Can you think, can
Speaker 2: you think offhand of a dumber governor than Kathy Hochel?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I mean, it's just it's the way,
Speaker 5: not the way of the world. It's the way of
Speaker 5: the current world, you know, to get what you can
Speaker 5: and run. Not one politician comes out of the legislature
Speaker 5: poorer than they went in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that is true. I'll tell you. You know,
Speaker 2: I still my favorite governor. Uh smart as a whip
Speaker 2: and honest as the day, as long as Christian who
Speaker 2: knew uh yeah, and at this he did a great
Speaker 2: job for the people. So last day in office today
Speaker 2: a great job for the people of New Hampshire. Sandy.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you run call more often. I want
Speaker 2: to hear your outrage, because if we don't hear your outrage,
Speaker 2: we assume that that people who don't call are happy
Speaker 2: with the way things are, and I know you're not
Speaker 2: happy with the way things Thanks. Did you listen last
Speaker 2: night to State State Ceditor Nick Collins? Many chance?
Speaker 5: Yes, And I hope that they follow through and finding
Speaker 5: out why the bike length class so much, which we
Speaker 5: didn't need.
Speaker 2: Twenty one million dollars we run.
Speaker 5: Next time out Jesus colored paints, because then she could
Speaker 5: be one thirty one, one forty one, I think twenty
Speaker 5: one million, and we can go for one forty one million.
Speaker 2: Bet, why not? It's only money. It's it's not their money,
Speaker 2: that's for sure. Thanks. Andy, gotta go touch to you soon.
Speaker 2: Let me go back to Jason here we thanks Sandy.
Speaker 2: Happy New Year. Jason. You called back. Thanks very much.
Speaker 2: You got about a minute and a.
Speaker 9: Half where you go ahead, Jason, Okay, Dan, I just
Speaker 9: want to say that I work in the restaurant business
Speaker 9: and when the tax when the gas prices went up,
Speaker 9: they passed it along to the businesses. There's a search
Speaker 9: out on all of our invoices, so beyond all of
Speaker 9: the obvious stuff. I just want to state that all
Speaker 9: of these delivery trucks going to all of the businesses,
Speaker 9: not just restaurants, are going to be search outs the
Speaker 9: same thing. And is that going to be passed along
Speaker 9: to the restaurants.
Speaker 2: The restaurants aren't going to eat it. They're going to
Speaker 2: pass it on to the patrons. As I do that right.
Speaker 9: Now, every delivery that comes to my place is a
Speaker 9: five or six or a three or four dollar charge
Speaker 9: for gas. Even when the gas goes down, ghost charges
Speaker 9: don't go away.
Speaker 2: So hey, Jason, do you do you own a restaurant
Speaker 2: or no?
Speaker 9: I do not own a restaurant, but I have worked
Speaker 9: in many and I've seen it in every restaurant.
Speaker 2: The reason, the only reason I asked you was I
Speaker 2: wanted to give you an opportunity to plug the restaurant.
Speaker 2: If you want to plug the restaurant you're working at.
Speaker 2: I like businesses and I like restaurants. I'd be more
Speaker 2: than happy to if you'd like to give it a plug,
Speaker 2: go right ahead.
Speaker 9: I work in a great place, rusty Can and byfield,
Speaker 9: it's called rusty Rusty Can.
Speaker 2: Rusty Can in Byfield. What sort of food if I can.
Speaker 9: Ask I have some Texas style barbecue excellent.
Speaker 2: If I'm ever up in that direction, I'm going to
Speaker 2: stop in. Thanks Jason, I appreciate you're very welcome. Thanks
Speaker 2: for calling back. Okay, next time, keep that radio turned down. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's the way it works. Thanks Jason, talk to you soon.
Speaker 2: Happy New Year. We're done for this hour, and I
Speaker 2: was gonna go two hours on this, but I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna switch topics. So if you didn't call, you
Speaker 2: missed the boat coming back on Nightside right after the
Speaker 2: ten o'clock news