Speaker 1: Sooner's get some commitments, and there's still questions around the
Speaker 1: recruiting trail. All that and more here on the Sooner
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Speaker 1: episode of The Sooner or Later Sports Show. Me and
Speaker 1: Coo got a few things to talk about, like the
Speaker 1: d kon Schmidt commit. He's gotta give you his take
Speaker 1: because he's actually talked to the kid. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about some of the struggles in the recruiting trail and
Speaker 1: the fact that Jim Naggy is tired of y'all crack.
Speaker 1: We'll wrap things up with all of your fan thoughts
Speaker 1: and we'll dive into what does it look like going
Speaker 1: into the season because John Mateer has again his silence, Coop,
Speaker 1: Happy Sunday, my boy, how are you feeling? Jay?
Speaker 2: We finally got to that spot where going outside as
Speaker 2: a business decision like, do I want to go outside?
Speaker 2: And you know, I I mowed three yards my last
Speaker 2: weekend and I finally could go outside without feeling like
Speaker 2: I was on fire, you know, yesterday, and so I decided, Hey,
Speaker 2: why don't moa yet another yard today? Dinna? So yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's hot and uh but Jay next next week
Speaker 2: is July. July is the last month without Sooner football.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that we have. It's gonna be amazing
Speaker 1: and depressing all the same time. Guys.
Speaker 2: The talk season is gonna, you know, really really ramp up.
Speaker 2: But you know, I'd rather be doing this than a
Speaker 2: lot of other things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and talk season again. You know, you're right, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be one of those that we'll get out of it.
Speaker 1: It'll be one results season, and I love results season
Speaker 1: because then we can start pulling receipts and y'all can
Speaker 1: stop flap your gums and being mad all the time.
Speaker 1: And I understand a lot of you are skeptical, so
Speaker 1: we totally get it. Make sure you hit the like subscribe,
Speaker 1: benonification and all of that jazz. Yeah, it's it's a
Speaker 1: lot of I get some of the takets in here around.
Speaker 1: I don't want too many, too much hype to be
Speaker 1: done out there. But the unfortunate thing is is that
Speaker 1: we can't control what the outside world is saying. And
Speaker 1: point told. Also, the outside world is not really as
Speaker 1: stupid as we try to make it, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. They're not They're not naive or that blind
Speaker 1: that they're going to not to recognize the changes at
Speaker 1: Oklahoma made that was for the good. My favorite guy
Speaker 1: we talked about feel still his Bible just dropped. Actually
Speaker 1: took it out of my office because I was sitting
Speaker 1: on the couch reading it. I'm gonna be reading two
Speaker 1: SEC schools a day and I'm gonna start going into
Speaker 1: the Big twelve and then going into the Big ten,
Speaker 1: et cetera, because I want to be prepared for the season.
Speaker 1: But he has talked about how Oklahoma he feels like,
Speaker 1: is this once again his top improved school going team
Speaker 1: going into next season after conversations with the staff and
Speaker 1: reading the moves blah blah blah. But but Coop, I
Speaker 1: want to lead off with this because I know, uh,
Speaker 1: you have things to say. Give the people your feeling
Speaker 1: in thoughts on your guy Deacon Schmidt committing because you
Speaker 1: get an interview with him months ago, and I know
Speaker 1: that he has been clamoring to get back on with
Speaker 1: you and talk to us. How do you feel about that?
Speaker 2: I mean it's great. Yeah, Deacon, you know he's from Windsory, Colorado. Dude,
Speaker 2: is uh we Really grabbing my eye about Deacon was
Speaker 2: the fact that he could you know, anytime that you
Speaker 2: saw his socials, it was not him claiming to be
Speaker 2: the best offensive lineman out there and he's coming to
Speaker 2: prove it or anything like, not that anybody else has
Speaker 2: done that, but but that's a shot at a certain
Speaker 2: five star right now. But I digress. But he's just
Speaker 2: putting work in, just in the gym summertime, wintertime, springtime,
Speaker 2: fall time, this time, that time, anytime he was putting
Speaker 2: work in, and he's out there just absolutely you know,
Speaker 2: just excited to get to work right from the get go.
Speaker 2: And I mean it's been pretty funny because back and
Speaker 2: forth he's like, hey man, let's let's let's jump on
Speaker 2: the pod, and I'm like, what time do you got
Speaker 2: And then it's like quiet for a few minutes, and
Speaker 2: then I get busy, He gets busy, and then it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, eighteen hours later, He's like, dude, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: I'm like, no bad, My bad too. I'm like, what
Speaker 2: about four o'clock, let me check and so so he's
Speaker 2: ready to have some conversations with us. There is a
Speaker 2: very very small chance he might hit me up right
Speaker 2: in the middle of the show and I will have
Speaker 2: to link him. But but you know, it'll happen here soon.
Speaker 2: The dude is super, super versatile. I know that in
Speaker 2: our discord, we were having conversation around you know, where
Speaker 2: can where can he play? Could he be a swing tackle?
Speaker 2: Could he be a swing guard? You know, Bill beadenbou
Speaker 2: loves him some versatility, and after, you know, seeing the
Speaker 2: year like we had last year, I'd like to have
Speaker 2: a dude who could be, you know, a high round
Speaker 2: draft capable in one position but draftable in another one.
Speaker 2: And that's that's something that Uh, this offensive line, I
Speaker 2: mean as much as we all you know, hate it
Speaker 2: and call it sunshine pumping if you want, but you're
Speaker 2: not stacking another two five star oh tackles this year.
Speaker 2: It just isn't going to happen. You're gonna need a
Speaker 2: dude who can come in and knows what's in front
Speaker 2: of him and says, all right, coach be and Bo,
Speaker 2: you point me where to go, and I want to grind.
Speaker 2: And Jay you pointed out the twenty twenty eight potential
Speaker 2: offensive line and what that might look like. And it
Speaker 2: looks pretty dirty. It looks pretty dirty. And so really
Speaker 2: really excited to get Deacon on board, because I mean, he,
Speaker 2: like I said, he's extremely versatile, he's a worker. He
Speaker 2: wants to come and be at coach hard and I
Speaker 2: think that you know, it was down between Colorado, which
Speaker 2: obviously in state school, Alabama which still is Alabama, and
Speaker 2: then Oklahoma, and yeah, Bill bean Bow comes walking up
Speaker 2: with his whelbarrow up front. Once again.
Speaker 1: That's the fascinating piece of it is that Oklahoma was
Speaker 1: able to really like seal that deal that way. Oh,
Speaker 1: Bill beating Bow walks in there, you know, strutting like
Speaker 1: he's Vince McMahon walks in unlets the kid know, Hey,
Speaker 1: I understand you've got every single big program out there
Speaker 1: knocking on your door begging for your attention. But let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and uh come to Oklahoma. We'll get you
Speaker 1: taken care of. We're gonna turn you into a We're
Speaker 1: gonna turn you into an NFL caliber player, and we
Speaker 1: know Bill beating Bow can live up to that. He's
Speaker 1: done it. We've seen him send players to lead that.
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of you fans be like that,
Speaker 1: dude's not any good, and you're like, I mean, are
Speaker 1: we sure he's not any good? Or are we saying that?
Speaker 1: Because we just are saying that, right. We've seen Bill
Speaker 1: beaton Bow turn a lot of players that we had
Speaker 1: questions about into guys that end up on rosters. And
Speaker 1: so I think the one thing to say that and
Speaker 1: I did love that quote he said, Schmid said that
Speaker 1: Bo Bentley needs his bodyguard and this is what his
Speaker 1: plan is. So I think that's where you're now seeing
Speaker 1: that Bo Bentley effect as well. Bo is out there
Speaker 1: recruiting the guys he wanted with him. You saw the
Speaker 1: same thing with Jade O'Neill when he was when he
Speaker 1: was committed, he focused on getting the guys that he
Speaker 1: wanted to join him on the roster too. So we're
Speaker 1: in a good overall situation. I think we just need
Speaker 1: to pump the breaks on the attitude that we're given.
Speaker 1: Because Coop, I don't know if you realized this, I
Speaker 1: mean I figured you did realize this, but a lot
Speaker 1: of people in the comments section didn't realize this. But
Speaker 1: you know, fans did the same complaining June of last
Speaker 1: year about our recruiting class, right, and then in August
Speaker 1: we landed Michael FASSUSSI am I crazy when I say that,
Speaker 1: I think and fans should probably pump the breaks and
Speaker 1: calm down.
Speaker 2: And I will say this jan Since twenty seventeen, I've
Speaker 2: got a list of them right here, just so everybody knows.
Speaker 1: He got his notes out.
Speaker 2: He pulled the notes, conversation notes. This is a fundraiser
Speaker 2: for my daughter's girl Scouts, but I got since twenty
Speaker 2: fIF seventeen, we have forty one four stars and all
Speaker 2: but three of the five stars that have technically became busts,
Speaker 2: but we have and these are guys who the Star
Speaker 2: system is again written by guys who are not coaches.
Speaker 2: I mean, I love Josh mcquesten. I love him to death.
Speaker 2: You know, Parker Thune is one of our boys. But
Speaker 2: these guys, and the guys in their positions, they're given
Speaker 2: the best estimate based off of the things that the
Speaker 2: coaches talked to them about. But there's a difference between
Speaker 2: being Bill beating Bow and being Parker Thune. And if
Speaker 2: Parker was on, you know, right between us on the screen,
Speaker 2: he'd say one hundred percent in coach powers, coach you know, Reggie,
Speaker 2: Reggie two here, you know, back me up on this one.
Speaker 2: But I think that when we get crazy and you see,
Speaker 2: you know, this guy is a highly rated, this guy's
Speaker 2: a five star, this guy's a high four star, and
Speaker 2: we don't get them, but then we get a three
Speaker 2: star guy that Okay, I'll just say that if Bill
Speaker 2: Beidenbow and Jim Naggy look at a guy and say
Speaker 2: I want them regardless, I don't care how many stars
Speaker 2: are next to the dude's name. I just really don't.
Speaker 2: Nagg you put dudes in the NFL. Bill beaden Bow still,
Speaker 2: offensive linemen for Oklahoma are making more salary annually than
Speaker 2: all Texas players.
Speaker 1: It's it's just what we do. Now. This is a
Speaker 1: very funny thing too. As you say that, so I
Speaker 1: got bored, And I'm only pointing this out for one reason.
Speaker 1: And I will like y'all to understand that this is
Speaker 1: not a quote unquote shot at anybody in this world
Speaker 1: or fans or anything. But I want you to remember something.
Speaker 1: I went back and I looked, and I would like
Speaker 1: y'all to do it too. You searst the channel you're
Speaker 1: on Adam for Sports. If you're on the main channel,
Speaker 1: on the other channel on for Sports Show with Jay,
Speaker 1: come to the other channel on Fair Sports, and I
Speaker 1: want you to search in the videos and I want
Speaker 1: you to search for the Ryan Foget commitment video. And
Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna do, Coop, I'm in a
Speaker 1: good Moodna, You're gonna pull it up real Coick quick,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull it up. I'ma let me see. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pull up the commitment video and I want you
Speaker 1: to go in there, and I want you to read
Speaker 1: the comments because when I dropped that video at that time,
Speaker 1: Foge was not ranked by two different recruiting sites, and
Speaker 1: he was a three star on on three as well
Speaker 1: as two four seven. He was not considered, you know,
Speaker 1: top player. He was not considered someone that Yeah, he
Speaker 1: wasn't that big of a video. He was the first
Speaker 1: commitment for Oklahoma. I found it. I'm gonna post it
Speaker 1: this video in here for you. I want you to
Speaker 1: go just look at the comments of this video. Go
Speaker 1: look at the comments section. It's bad, it's it's.
Speaker 2: It's it's crazy because I'm I'm you know, I'm not
Speaker 2: going to take shots of dudes who are who were
Speaker 2: five stars and something happened, you know, like a Trajan
Speaker 2: Bridges got himself up into some you know, bad stuff,
Speaker 2: and we don't know what his path would have been.
Speaker 2: We don't know what Ret Bomar's path would have been.
Speaker 2: But I'm just gonna read some three star guys. This
Speaker 2: is from only seventeen JS, so, I mean about seven
Speaker 2: years right, and uh so I've got Ramondre Stevenson was
Speaker 2: a three star guy. Everybody's joke on Twitter message boards
Speaker 2: was say Bradford was a three star. Hollywood Brown a
Speaker 2: three star, Jeremiah Hall a three star, Kenneth Murray a
Speaker 2: three star, Trey Norwood, Jordan Kelly, Brian Osamoah, dt Y Turner, Yell,
Speaker 2: Braydon Willis. So, I mean, there are so many of
Speaker 2: these three star guys who everybody you know sees and
Speaker 2: is like, well man, that's that's nobody.
Speaker 1: Ex.
Speaker 2: Rob was a was a was a three star. I mean,
Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta just find it that the stars
Speaker 2: are based off of a lot of different things. But
Speaker 2: once you get here, you gotta have the right attitude.
Speaker 2: We've seen guys who get here and they don't have
Speaker 2: the correct attitude and they feel like it's going to
Speaker 2: be just a transition up. Hey, I am the best
Speaker 2: player on my team. None of these other guys are
Speaker 2: going D one. But when I go up there, I'll
Speaker 2: be other guys, be with other guys that are just
Speaker 2: as good as me, and it'll just our team will
Speaker 2: just be better. That's not necessarily how that works. Yepowski
Speaker 2: was a three star.
Speaker 1: So it happens. And and I'm and I'm pointing this out,
Speaker 1: and I'm wanting to have this conversation mainly to to not,
Speaker 1: like I said, it's more so for you, how to
Speaker 1: understand that it's June, Like we haven't got the final
Speaker 1: the final rankings of any of these players, Like if
Speaker 1: they have senior seasons that are ridiculous, they're gonna fly
Speaker 1: up like so here. This was after see he committed
Speaker 1: the beginning of February because I was actually headed on
Speaker 1: a cruise and I dropped the video right before I
Speaker 1: set sail. This was February twenty six, was his first update.
Speaker 1: This is when you saw him go four star, number
Speaker 1: six one sixty one at on three and a lot
Speaker 1: of these rankings jumped up because of why Bill Beatonbow
Speaker 1: and Oklahoma was looking at him. Two four Sales still
Speaker 1: had him unranked three star. ESPN had zero about him.
Speaker 1: Same thing with Rivals, he was a four star, not rated.
Speaker 1: He moved up with all of them after his commitment. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you're wondering, Jay, what does that mean? For a second,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the next update that this kid had.
Speaker 1: On July eighth. July eighth, Ryan Foger jumped up four
Speaker 1: star on everybody's board and then number eighty nine nationally
Speaker 1: two four seven forty six on on three, two hundred
Speaker 1: and seventh. The ESPN and Rivals didn't haven't rated yet. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, you're probably like, Jay, like, where
Speaker 1: are we going here?
Speaker 2: Where are we going?
Speaker 1: With that?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Fojet finished as a top ten tackle in the class.
Speaker 1: Number eleven for on three two four seven had him
Speaker 1: rated as a committed me go to his high school
Speaker 1: stuff real quick, takes a minute. He was fourteenth on
Speaker 1: two four sevens composite eleven on on three he was
Speaker 1: one hundred ranked top one hundred and three number seventy six,
Speaker 1: while two four seven had him as number seventy point.
Speaker 1: Being give it some time, Give it a minute, folks,
Speaker 1: I promise you you're gonna say and see something different.
Speaker 1: Take give it some minute. And on that sooner Cowboy
Speaker 1: asked a very good question. I think Foger is probably
Speaker 1: gonna start off as a guard and then move to
Speaker 1: right tackle later. I think he actually may see run
Speaker 1: right behind for bet you weebu at right guard.
Speaker 2: And I think that you know, that's not something that's
Speaker 2: brand new. That was something that started getting kind of
Speaker 2: tossed around when we were still in on Ty Haywood
Speaker 2: and a lot of the other you know, high ranking
Speaker 2: guys for for that class was well, you can't take
Speaker 2: four or five star guards, I mean tackles and play
Speaker 2: them all right, like somebody is leaving. So I mean,
Speaker 2: if it's just you want to be a hoarder, that's
Speaker 2: That's one thing is like at offensive linemen, what are
Speaker 2: we gonna do with four five star tackles in one class?
Speaker 2: Like two of those dudes are leaving. Would you rather
Speaker 2: be upset that we are losing a five star and
Speaker 2: have to deal with the trolls or would you rather
Speaker 2: just get two guys who decided to show up and said,
Speaker 2: all right, that's your side, that's my side, let's go work.
Speaker 2: And and I like it. And you know, I think
Speaker 2: that some of the things that is happening right now
Speaker 2: with with everybody's frustration around this is you see, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of schools that are, you know, using different
Speaker 2: I guess strategies, trying to get stuff in before July. Listen.
Speaker 2: I mean, Naggi is is really good at his job.
Speaker 2: And I think that, like he's so good at his job.
Speaker 2: That's why he's been clapping back in the comments on
Speaker 2: on on socials right now because he knows who he is.
Speaker 2: It's only based off of several years of success. And
Speaker 2: it's crazy that I see dude on Twitter who is
Speaker 2: a truck driver, you know, saying like, man, what the
Speaker 2: hell's Naggie doing? And I'm like, I'm forgotten. Juey should
Speaker 2: have told Jim that truck or Jim decided that this
Speaker 2: was a bad offer, or we should have given him
Speaker 2: more money.
Speaker 1: And like I said, I'm not going after particular ones,
Speaker 1: but I do we did see that Naggie has gone
Speaker 1: after some sooner fans, which I think is hilarious. I
Speaker 1: like to see. I like the fact that we are
Speaker 1: seeing our GMB active in the fan base, especially in
Speaker 1: the socials, and he has to be because he's in
Speaker 1: the era of social media with these young players. He
Speaker 1: needs to get on there to be able to find them,
Speaker 1: see who they are, and find everything we're looking for.
Speaker 1: And I do like the fact that he's popping it
Speaker 1: up and chopping up with y'all. And for a lot
Speaker 1: of the sites depend on the site you're dealing with.
Speaker 1: That's really what it is. Five stars are projected first
Speaker 1: round picks because Powers is one hundred percent right. The
Speaker 1: key thing is how good can you play? Now, we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about some of the whiffs that we've seen
Speaker 1: on the recruiting trail, and me and Coople kind of
Speaker 1: give heads and tails as to what that means. We'll
Speaker 1: do that in just a moment. But my thing with
Speaker 1: the Schmidt pick up is I don't want to cloud
Speaker 1: it by us being upset that he is right now
Speaker 1: the highest ranked lineman in the class, when you're probably
Speaker 1: gonna see a bunch of updates on these players here
Speaker 1: because a lot of them went to camps. So you're
Speaker 1: gonna se dude skyrocket like, for example, Hey, cool, did
Speaker 1: you see Bo Bentley in his rankings and how that
Speaker 1: has changed recently? Sure?
Speaker 2: Did, Jay, because you sent it to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, since it's all of y'all, I would appreciate it exactly.
Speaker 1: So Bo Bentley came in and I'm gonna hold a second,
Speaker 1: let me get the original. We should go, we should
Speaker 1: do the comparisons. The only place where Bo Bentley really
Speaker 1: didn't see that wasn't very highly rated was ESPN. Now
Speaker 1: tell people quite often that ESPN takes their time. They
Speaker 1: usually do two to three updates. They're the only recruiting
Speaker 1: industry site that doesn't do it like all the time.
Speaker 1: Like they're not doing it like four or five times
Speaker 1: a year. They usually do it like two or three times.
Speaker 1: Like they'll do it this summer. Yeah, yeah, that too,
Speaker 1: but they'll do it this, they'll do it now usually
Speaker 1: here in the summer, which I think they did it,
Speaker 1: did it last week, and then they'll make another adjustment
Speaker 1: closer to signing day, and that's when you start seeing
Speaker 1: the final locations of people. Well, let me share this
Speaker 1: for the people. This is where let me see. No,
Speaker 1: I don't like the way that looks. Let me see
Speaker 1: if this so, I mean, let me make it smaller.
Speaker 1: Give me a second. Up, there we go. That's exactly
Speaker 1: how I want it. So the look about right there?
Speaker 1: All right? That'll work? Uh yeah, give me a second
Speaker 1: and I'm moving slow. Oh, let's see if this looks good.
Speaker 1: This should work all right. This was Bo Bentley's rankings
Speaker 1: when he committed forty first on on three. He was
Speaker 1: seventy eighth on two four seven. He is panim at
Speaker 1: two sixty one, number six and one hundred and two
Speaker 1: on Rivals. Again. Bo did these camps recently. And when
Speaker 1: Bo did these camps, guess what that Rivals camp? I
Speaker 1: think it was the Rivals five star camp. In another camp,
Speaker 1: he did all of his numbers jumped and let me
Speaker 1: show you what those numbers look like now. And this
Speaker 1: is why I said, hey, guys, we should probably take
Speaker 1: our time just waited out on the way we feel
Speaker 1: about stuff. This is where Bo is today. ESPN updated him.
Speaker 1: He moved from two hundred and sixty one to one
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty eight. He jumped just about just under
Speaker 1: one hundred spots by doing camps just saying. And I
Speaker 1: think that also is a little bit of an Oklahoma bulb.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of you feel like Oklahoma recruits
Speaker 1: always see a drop and it's worse. No, we usually
Speaker 1: see most of the more times than not, we see
Speaker 1: a bigger jump than we see a drop.
Speaker 2: And I think that most of the times when the
Speaker 2: drops happen, there are guys who had such a high
Speaker 2: rating based off their sophomore season and projection, and then
Speaker 2: the junior season just didn't increase along with the expectations,
Speaker 2: and so in senior season hits around you got other
Speaker 2: guys who had not been seen, late growers, you know,
Speaker 2: et cetera. And so all in all, I mean, I
Speaker 2: know the recruiting rankings suck right now. They're not terrific.
Speaker 2: We're not done yet, but it's not high up there.
Speaker 2: But I just say that I went back and I
Speaker 2: did the math a while back. I think Texas since
Speaker 2: like two thousand, had out recruited US. I want to
Speaker 2: say it was all but like three or four times,
Speaker 2: maybe like every year except for three or four years.
Speaker 2: What's that head to head record look like? Since that
Speaker 2: it's how that matters. It's the coaching it's the it's
Speaker 2: the desire. Everything it is now. And I'm saying there
Speaker 2: are guys who are going to be hard workers that
Speaker 2: still go to Texas. There's going to be three stars
Speaker 2: and four stars that go to Texas and ball out
Speaker 2: and should have been re ranked. Gonna just be.
Speaker 1: You're frightening. Just got himself up. He says he got
Speaker 1: his veggie garden this year. Oh taste, you know, it's
Speaker 1: just too hot.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's we understand with all this rain, we
Speaker 2: haven't been able to do any tomatoes because it's just
Speaker 2: been like, you know, a monsoon, just day after day
Speaker 2: after day. But uh, now that's what I am eating.
Speaker 2: I was after I mowed, I grilled up some pork
Speaker 2: chops and some burgers on the on the Blackstone out
Speaker 2: back and I'm still sweating, so eating little veggies out
Speaker 2: of the garden. But all in all, JA, I just
Speaker 2: I just go with this. Is there you want to here,
Speaker 2: Let's let's have some truth. Some non Sunshine people are
Speaker 2: are lighting us up because of the injury history. Recency
Speaker 2: bias on the injury history happened one time out of
Speaker 2: how many decades of OU football and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: it's a fact. But the recency bias around the injury history,
Speaker 2: the injuries around wide receivers, the pisspoort offense last year,
Speaker 2: all of that is happening, and it's working. It's working
Speaker 2: against us because you say that and then you offer
Speaker 2: right around the same amount of money as ou and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you know, it's do I want
Speaker 2: to You know, you never can know in the you know,
Speaker 2: if we have any attorneys in here, in the court
Speaker 2: of law, you don't have to prove innocence. You have
Speaker 2: to create a doubt of guilt. That's what it is.
Speaker 2: You get one or two people who say, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't say guilty. You win. That's it.
Speaker 2: And so you know with some of these kids, I mean,
Speaker 2: the money is out there, it's no longer something pretend.
Speaker 2: It's no longer something that you have to hide. And
Speaker 2: there's a lot of it. And so how do you
Speaker 2: fix it? We go out on the field this year
Speaker 2: and give them a proof concept.
Speaker 1: That's what you guy.
Speaker 2: I will say that I do not know what our
Speaker 2: record is going to be. We have done our predictions
Speaker 2: as of pre fall.
Speaker 1: YEP.
Speaker 2: I do know this Jade not our offensive line and
Speaker 2: John Metier will bump us at least two games, I
Speaker 2: think on a bare minimum. I mean bare minimum. And
Speaker 2: everybody said, man, if we had anything resembling an offense
Speaker 2: last year, it would have been eight and four. Right.
Speaker 2: Everybody said that, I can promise you it's going to happen.
Speaker 2: It is going to be a bump in the offense.
Speaker 1: It's all you need now to go with that. I
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Speaker 1: us five. The big thing, as Coop mentioned, is that
Speaker 1: we're dealing with a substantial amount of negative recruiting very
Speaker 1: much for Oklahoma. For the Sooners to be successful this
Speaker 1: season in recruiting, they will have to be successful on
Speaker 1: the field period. The negative recruiting iss Coop just mentioned,
Speaker 1: it's working, and that's okay. We don't know why it's
Speaker 1: okay because we go on the field and we showed
Speaker 1: the opposite product that we showed last year. That shuts
Speaker 1: all of that up. But you have to do it. EMMITTT.
Speaker 1: Jones built himself a reputation of really developing dudes that
Speaker 1: we were concerned about. Denn he dealt with all the
Speaker 1: injuries and had to quickly develop young players and help
Speaker 1: them figure it out early. Still got ask somebody to
Speaker 1: throw the ball to them consistently, and now you have
Speaker 1: a situation where it's a lot better. John Mattie had
Speaker 1: some things to say about that this week at the
Speaker 1: Manning Passing Academy. So John Mattiir was out. He is
Speaker 1: a one of the counselors at the Manning Passing Academy.
Speaker 2: Him.
Speaker 1: You saw Arch Manning. Of course, you saw Garrett Nussmeyer.
Speaker 1: I think I saw Sawn Levitt, Leonora Sellers out there
Speaker 1: throwing it. Had a few good, you know, group of
Speaker 1: quarterbacks out there teaching, and so you got to see
Speaker 1: some drills where you saw the quarterbacks throw the ball.
Speaker 1: You saw Matier, you saw Arch, you know, some deep
Speaker 1: passes and all of that, which was of course fun.
Speaker 1: And Matier had some things to say around Oklahoma and
Speaker 1: the guys around him, and this is George Stoyer shout
Speaker 1: to him. This is what he said. Matte glowed about
Speaker 1: his teammates and offensive coordinator been Arbuckle. Yesterday at the
Speaker 1: Manning Passing Academy. He told me the offense has grown
Speaker 1: a lot since he arrived, and that they have a
Speaker 1: bunch of dudes around him, including new additions Jermichael Carter
Speaker 1: and Jayden Ott. And of course Naggie quote took a
Speaker 1: screenshot of it, took quote it up and said, he said, dudes,
Speaker 1: and with the little smiley, smirky face, what does that mean,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen thing? Jio myteers now sold on it.
Speaker 1: I think he sold on what the hell we're gonna
Speaker 1: be doing this year. And as he talked about it, Coop,
Speaker 1: I think the thing that got me the most excited
Speaker 1: is that he pointed out that not only has this
Speaker 1: team grown and gotten better over time of you know,
Speaker 1: going through the system, that now that he's in his
Speaker 1: third year, his classroom load is a lot less in
Speaker 1: comparison to was, you know, his first couple of year,
Speaker 1: first three years in college. Because you know this he
Speaker 1: he's at because he's a red shirt. He's at the
Speaker 1: point where he can take a lighter and now you
Speaker 1: can focus more on film and focus more on the playbook.
Speaker 1: That got your boy excited.
Speaker 2: Hundred truth, you broke my game face. I had no
Speaker 2: idea all your players would die though last year.
Speaker 1: I mean, right, none of us.
Speaker 2: Nobody did. Nobody did, oh me, they did. I mean,
Speaker 2: first of all, for those taking shots at like, hey,
Speaker 2: look at the ball ma tear through on air. Look
Speaker 2: at the ball art through on air. That's not the
Speaker 2: ground that you stand, you take your stand on. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's you're throwing the same deal. There's nobody drilling you
Speaker 2: in the face if you if you take an extra
Speaker 2: you know, half a second to pass the ball, situational,
Speaker 2: et cetera. Some dudes are gamers, some guys are you know,
Speaker 2: practice and practice wizards. And you know, we we brought
Speaker 2: it up two years ago that after year one in
Speaker 2: the defense, you had guys like Ethan Downs, Billy Billy Bowman,
Speaker 2: Danny Stutsman out there able to coach and recognize adjustments,
Speaker 2: put people in good spots. Because you think about it,
Speaker 2: you get a new system in and everybody you know
Speaker 2: where nobody has played in it. Yet Danny couldn't help
Speaker 2: the defensive lineman line up properly. Danny couldn't turn around
Speaker 2: and look at the safeties or the or the defensive
Speaker 2: backs and say, hey, you guys are lined up right.
Speaker 2: He was trying to figure out where the hell he
Speaker 2: was supposed to be and after seeing film and film
Speaker 2: and film, we saw it. We saw it, and you know,
Speaker 2: I know that we made a huge, huge deal about
Speaker 2: you know, Danny. I think it was Danny walked up
Speaker 2: and slapped Jade Jackson on the backside and moved him
Speaker 2: over right before like just an absolute blow up in
Speaker 2: the spring game last year. Well that's the that's the
Speaker 2: situation with Mantia coming in, is it's not just our
Speaker 2: buckle out there, you know, trying to get people to
Speaker 2: do the right things. The offensive schemes are are different,
Speaker 2: but it's not like they went from teaching lacrosse to
Speaker 2: water polo.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 2: It's still football. There's still a lot of the same plays.
Speaker 2: It's just having the idea of what the switches are,
Speaker 2: what the audibles are. And when it's just an offensive
Speaker 2: coordinator trying to change all these things, that's tough. When
Speaker 2: you also have the captain of your offense knowing exactly
Speaker 2: what to do, that helps out tremendously. And they're just
Speaker 2: I mean, what are they just coach powers? How many
Speaker 2: practices have they had yet at this point? I mean,
Speaker 2: isn't like thirty practices really, like somewhere around there and
Speaker 2: then a lot of you know, unscripted, non coached practices.
Speaker 2: So when they come back in the fall, they're gonna
Speaker 2: everybody is going to have a much better idea on
Speaker 2: the offense what to do. Now, what really is going
Speaker 2: to lead this jay is what is this offensive line
Speaker 2: going to do? Because last year it was it was
Speaker 2: like playing yachtzi. You just dumped the dice out and
Speaker 2: you were like, all right, how do we put this
Speaker 2: craft together? And you know, what do we potentially have?
Speaker 2: And we saw some uh, you know, we saw some
Speaker 2: jumps at the end of the year with some of
Speaker 2: the guys who I mean, we're Logan Howland, Bless his heart.
Speaker 2: If I was him, I had to quit football. I'd
Speaker 2: become a monk. I had to move to Tibet because
Speaker 2: after that South Carolina and those old miss games. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, nobody would have blamed him. Everybody would have
Speaker 2: been like, we understand, dude, we really do understand. Like
Speaker 2: good luck, say hi to say hi to the Shallon
Speaker 2: priests there for us. But I think that this offensive
Speaker 2: line now has a mixture of young talent, great potential,
Speaker 2: and then the experience and then the super athleticism of
Speaker 2: the new guys. Not only do you have Fasusi and
Speaker 2: foj coming in, you still have Awfu Lava who's coming
Speaker 2: off of knee surgery. You know, you got guys coming
Speaker 2: all over the place into this offensive line scheme wanting
Speaker 2: to get on the field. And I think that we're
Speaker 2: gonna see this offensive line. Is it gonna be a
Speaker 2: Joe Moore Award winning offensive line this year? I don't
Speaker 2: think so. But do they have that potential maybe the
Speaker 2: following year? I think they really did. No.
Speaker 1: I agree with you there, and I wonder. I guess
Speaker 1: that leads to the next question that's gonna come down
Speaker 1: the line here, Coop, is pull John Mattier come back
Speaker 1: for another season? He does the possibility he does. He
Speaker 1: has the ability, like based upon his experience and his classification,
Speaker 1: he can come back next year for one more year.
Speaker 1: I know that we would prefer him to be so
Speaker 1: good that he does not come back, but that does
Speaker 1: lead the opportunity, which means him, it'd be him, Michael Hawkins.
Speaker 1: You'll have with yet new with new Bauer, and then
Speaker 1: Bo Bentley comes in right behind him, and so you
Speaker 1: kind of got a little log jam of quarterbacks and
Speaker 1: the question is with Michael Hawkins be okay with only
Speaker 1: having one year of truly starting. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I know what in our hearts and minds, we hope
Speaker 1: that it does not come down to that. But to
Speaker 1: answer Sean's question here, that was in the comments he
Speaker 1: asked about saying that we're pretty beat up. One wide
Speaker 1: receiver's been hurt and Jane Gibson. We were just waiting
Speaker 1: on Jane and Gibson to, you know, for him to
Speaker 1: get to that point. They're just not pushing them. And
Speaker 1: that injury happened August of last year, which it typically
Speaker 1: takes about twelve months. We usually go through ncixty five days,
Speaker 1: so we'll find out at fall camp. If he comes
Speaker 1: back at fall camp and he's good, then it's a
Speaker 1: different story. And in Giovanni had that little break which
Speaker 1: was not as bad as Kendall DOBIE's, and Dobe is
Speaker 1: back full contact, ready to go. They're just him gentry.
Speaker 1: They're waiting. It's less about them being hurt, more about
Speaker 1: them saying waiting waiting for them to put them on
Speaker 1: the field. No point in trying to, you know, put
Speaker 1: them in unnecessary contact when you can make sure that
Speaker 1: you don't be the cause of their injury. And so
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think we're in a way better.
Speaker 1: We're in a way better situation where last year, remember
Speaker 1: going into fall camp last year, he was waiting on Andreil.
Speaker 1: Then Jayden gets hurt. Then from there Nick was not
Speaker 1: right going into it. So you had three guys already
Speaker 1: right there that were kind of iffy, and the only
Speaker 1: person we'd had was Dion Burks, and then you had
Speaker 1: a bunch of the you know, younger players around them,
Speaker 1: and then everybody started falling apart as far as injuries go.
Speaker 1: So to me, we're in a way better situation. Like
Speaker 1: Giovanni and Jaydon have. The Gibson boys have been icing
Speaker 1: to me on the cake, that to me is Jamichael Carter, Keantes, Lewis,
Speaker 1: Zion Kearney, Dion Bergs, Isaiah Setana. That's to me, your foundation.
Speaker 1: And I've leaned in heavily on the Burkes being your
Speaker 1: foundation more than anything else with every hemositania with just
Speaker 1: plug in a wide receiver, like I say, Kearnie's one,
Speaker 1: because I think that he now has the experience and
Speaker 1: he's learned from him his mistakes and he's grown a
Speaker 1: dramatic amount. Route Tree should be way better. But Keantes Lewis,
Speaker 1: to me is one that can also come in and
Speaker 1: show up because he has years of experience and he's bigger.
Speaker 1: He's six y two something that I know a lot
Speaker 1: of you all have said you wanted.
Speaker 2: And we didn't get to see Dion Burks be Dion
Speaker 2: Burks last year. And I want everybody to remember the
Speaker 2: you know, Javonte Barnes hit versus Tennessee out on the sideline.
Speaker 2: By time Tennessee game was over, the entire sec knew
Speaker 2: we couldn't do anything offensively. We had two passes one
Speaker 2: against Maine, and then what was the what was the
Speaker 2: we had two deep passes last year? There was the there.
Speaker 1: Was jac you had three, Hester had three of them
Speaker 1: by hisself. You had the Auburn one, you had the
Speaker 1: main one, and then you had the LSU one.
Speaker 2: Yes, but the fact that we just could say three
Speaker 2: that that's the point that I'm trying to make is
Speaker 2: at that point, it was it was like, you know,
Speaker 2: you watch The Longest Yard, you watch any type of
Speaker 2: sports movieses where you know, guys are you know, taking
Speaker 2: bets and uh, it says you know, let up bottom
Speaker 2: after you get twenty one point lead, and then the
Speaker 2: guy comes behind the scenes says, no, I want you
Speaker 2: to go kill him. And that's what everybody was doing
Speaker 2: to this offense. And so Dion Burks, I mean, he
Speaker 2: was getting He was the only threats on that on
Speaker 2: that team for multiple games. And hell, if I was
Speaker 2: Dion Burks, I'd have been like, hey my I got
Speaker 2: a backiotomy. I got a schedule because I can't walk anymore.
Speaker 2: He think that's different.
Speaker 1: He really was. It is.
Speaker 2: In the Tennessee game, he got hit pretty hard. And
Speaker 2: I think that there was maybe the Old Miss game,
Speaker 2: maybe the South Gral I can't remember, somebody, I mean
Speaker 2: double hit him. We saw Tatum take some you know,
Speaker 2: really really nasty hits because nobody had any fear. You
Speaker 2: were playing in a phone booth. Literally the entire offense.
Speaker 2: That's how you're supposed to talk about the defensive offensive line,
Speaker 2: not the whole entire damn offense. And so I think
Speaker 2: that once you get a couple of different guys who
Speaker 2: you know, a Jamichael Carter, he doesn't have to come
Speaker 2: in and be a thousand yard receiver. He needs to
Speaker 2: come in and give you an option. And so because
Speaker 2: if you got a key on one receiver, if you
Speaker 2: got a key on one, you know, one offensive playmaker,
Speaker 2: nobody was scared of this offense last year. And I
Speaker 2: think that Dion Burks will show once again. You know,
Speaker 2: I think what he really has the true potential to
Speaker 2: be and I think it is I mean, I think
Speaker 2: it's literally a twelve hundred yard guy. He is a
Speaker 2: guy who can absolutely go off. And I said ten
Speaker 2: touchdowns at the beginning of the year last year, after
Speaker 2: three in the first half against whoever it was Temple,
Speaker 2: I looked at you and I said, I think I
Speaker 2: I think I misjudged. Well, I think he had none
Speaker 2: the rest of the year or maybe one. But you know,
Speaker 2: I think that that's a guy who is going to
Speaker 2: get I feel like in April next year, we're all
Speaker 2: gonna be saying, is he around two round three potential
Speaker 2: round one type of you know draft pick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what that's gonna be. The biggest question is
Speaker 1: what type of a draft pick is can't he be?
Speaker 1: When you when you look at that and for like
Speaker 1: like you said, we're on the wide receiver like Jamaica
Speaker 1: Carter and all of them, like a lot of them.
Speaker 1: You're gonna need them to be really good contributors. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna need them to do a bunch outside of
Speaker 1: really contribute. So I don't know. All I gotta say
Speaker 1: is I know everybody's in the chat fighting each other
Speaker 1: right now on it. And yeah, Friday, truth, I did
Speaker 1: see the upside down cap hap. Everybody's been into that.
Speaker 1: That's like the new craze nowadays. And I have no
Speaker 1: clue about what those hats mean or what. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's it's a new thing. It's it's something that's very
Speaker 1: new that a lot of people are doing. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I really couldn't tell you what they truly mean. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't wear I don't. I'm not big on the
Speaker 1: that's not my thing. I'll just say that that's not
Speaker 1: something that I'm into because like I said, it's it's
Speaker 1: just something that seems to be, you know, popular. But yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody's got them, like literally true, everybody has. I've seen
Speaker 1: Dallas Maverick's one, I've seen Dallas Cowboys ones. Have you
Speaker 1: seen those coupe the upside down wording hats or whatnot?
Speaker 1: It's just some new trend that's been going around, and
Speaker 1: I don't know it's weird, but yeah, I think Materier
Speaker 1: had one while he was at the Passing Academy and
Speaker 1: it was kind of I don't know, it's it's extremely
Speaker 1: I don't it's whatever.
Speaker 2: I'm not particularly what the kids would like to call
Speaker 2: up to date with things. And yeah, I'm not different,
Speaker 2: but but you know, my my son starts saying weird
Speaker 2: words like riz and I you know, I'm like, half
Speaker 2: of me goes, this is what my parents felt when
Speaker 2: I said weird stuff. I get made fun of all
Speaker 2: the time. I still use nineties slang. Uh. You know,
Speaker 2: I'll be like, that's dope, that's dope, let's do it later.
Speaker 2: Uh and uh and so yeah, I don't understand that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. But and you know, I'm a hat guy.
Speaker 2: I mean, I love that he's got he loved.
Speaker 1: I have to have a good collection that hats. But
Speaker 1: I'm not a big hat guy. But truth, this had
Speaker 1: to be pushed up here because this is awesome because
Speaker 1: Texas did it. So what people threw the horns down
Speaker 1: and they had to everybody had to follow with that.
Speaker 1: Bravo for that comed that's a that's a that's a
Speaker 1: Bravo comedy because that is that is good as to
Speaker 1: why everybody's gone upside down, which is hilarious. But anyway,
Speaker 1: Mateir also talked about his relationship, of course with Arbuckle
Speaker 1: and his relationship a lot of players. Like I said,
Speaker 1: he mentioned ot he talked about Giovanni, and with the
Speaker 1: way he talked about Giovanni, it kind of feels like
Speaker 1: that they think Giovanni's coming probably coming soon because I
Speaker 1: know that that was Matteir's like favorite target when he
Speaker 1: first got here. Uh, and he was big on Kiantes,
Speaker 1: but he's also big on Jamichael as well. So all
Speaker 1: the transfers I think, and I saw Sean said that
Speaker 1: in the comments, somebody I guess said that they feel
Speaker 1: like the wide receiver room was better off last year
Speaker 1: than this year. I think the difference between this year
Speaker 1: and that last year is gonna be definitely availability because
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the better players on the
Speaker 1: in the wide receiver room now are going to be available.
Speaker 1: And I think that there's one player that we probably
Speaker 1: are gonna be talking about, like crazy, Elijah times Et.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be that dude, Like I don't think a
Speaker 1: lot of people understand how good he really is. Like
Speaker 1: he is good, and I know him coming out of Chakota.
Speaker 1: We talked about this before, but him coming out there
Speaker 1: and a lot of people are at small school and
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. I don't I don't understand. I
Speaker 1: don't care how freakishly talented he is. He is that
Speaker 1: good if and he's gonna be good.
Speaker 2: If Ryan Broyles and Mark Clayton and you know a
Speaker 2: Keen Iglesias, if those guys had a few more elite traits,
Speaker 2: they would have been I mean, they would have been
Speaker 2: you know, borderline, you know, pro bowlers. Those guys didn't
Speaker 2: have elite speed, elite size or anything like that. But
Speaker 2: et I mean, if y'all saw him dunk people, you know,
Speaker 2: the moment, the moment he got now I you know,
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty, like he saw him hopping him, Like
Speaker 2: that's pretty neat. Sit your ass down, you know, you know,
Speaker 2: from the wide receiver. But I don't know if they
Speaker 2: sacrifice the live chicken or whatever.
Speaker 1: But he sacrificed the chicken. I don't think he's in
Speaker 1: the chat either. Is he's chicken in here? I think
Speaker 1: we sacrificed that chicken on the show recently.
Speaker 2: Not not that, yeah, but Elijah Thomas. Elijah Thomas, I
Speaker 2: think is a guy who is somewhere between your broils
Speaker 2: and Serling Shepherd. Like I think that that's really you
Speaker 2: know what he is. But he has more elite twitch
Speaker 2: great great football IQ And it doesn't matter if you're
Speaker 2: playing one A, two A, three A seven A nine A.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter like four fours, four to four. The
Speaker 2: dude is just I mean, he's going to be good,
Speaker 2: but you know, he is not relied on, and that's
Speaker 2: that's the good thing. And another one that I think
Speaker 2: that a lot of people are going to kind of
Speaker 2: sleep on is Satania. I mean Satania played at Arkansas.
Speaker 2: He had some pretty good games. You know, Arkansas was
Speaker 2: very very very, uh you know, polarizing it came time
Speaker 2: to throw on the ball. They ran the ball a lot.
Speaker 2: They had a lot of quarterback run and they had
Speaker 2: a lot of short stuff. You know that that was
Speaker 2: their their deal is that when they ran the ball
Speaker 2: and they kept you off balanced, they were good, yep.
Speaker 2: And that was tough for them a lot of I mean,
Speaker 2: that's why it's Satania Leaves is because he wants a
Speaker 2: little bit more predictable predictability for his game. He wants
Speaker 2: to be able to, you know, have some more opportunities.
Speaker 2: And so that's what you need out of this group.
Speaker 2: Is you don't need, you know, a ceed Lamb essentially
Speaker 2: with a Hollywood Brown on the other side, or a D. D.
Speaker 2: Westbrook in the middle.
Speaker 1: You you don't love it, Yeah, that'd be great, love it.
Speaker 1: I'll take two.
Speaker 2: But I say is why was Indianapolis so hard for
Speaker 2: the thunder? Because so many different guys could do it.
Speaker 2: So many different guys could do it. Whereas you shut
Speaker 2: down the dude who just got a hundred million dollar
Speaker 2: contract and looked like a JV basketballer and then Edwards
Speaker 2: you know, against Minnesota and it was over and I
Speaker 2: want to see multiple guys. Now the tied end is
Speaker 2: still a huge question mark in there, and how do
Speaker 2: you supplement that? Is it the h back look from Cannick?
Speaker 2: It is it? You just get stuff on get stuff
Speaker 2: on film, I think. But I think that this wide
Speaker 2: receiver crew is really really going to be good. And
Speaker 2: I'll say this, if you think that, Sean, I think
Speaker 2: you said it. Our boy over here at LSU Nick six,
Speaker 2: he's not he's not making headlines. That's a deep wide
Speaker 2: receiver room. But if he was who we thought he was,
Speaker 2: he reminds me of a dude like a David Boston
Speaker 2: back in the day, going old school, old school NFL.
Speaker 2: Is was a guy who as a number two wide receiver,
Speaker 2: he was a damn menace, but he couldn't do it
Speaker 2: by himself.
Speaker 1: No, it's tough.
Speaker 2: And I think that that's where Nick Anderson really, you know, really,
Speaker 2: you know you queued in on him. You know, you
Speaker 2: you had to lose out to Stoops over the middle
Speaker 2: or you know, Gibson out on you know what did
Speaker 2: he have like twelve catches but six touchdowns or something
Speaker 2: like that. I mean like there were multiple different guys
Speaker 2: who could do multiple different things. And I think that
Speaker 2: that's what this wide receiver crew is gonna be this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna have multiple and and Kim
Speaker 1: mentioned it in here in the chat that there was
Speaker 1: our vocal had an interview and he talked about how
Speaker 1: the offense is ahead of schedule and they're starting to
Speaker 1: add additional quote unquote gadget plays. What does that mean
Speaker 1: that means that they're now getting fancy with it. Don't worry.
Speaker 1: I extremely missed that they're going to be. I don't
Speaker 1: think that they're gonna be out there throwing out this
Speaker 1: fancy stuff too early. They're gonna put it out there
Speaker 1: when it matters the most. But I think this team
Speaker 1: is a further ahead of schedule than a lot of
Speaker 1: you anticipate, and it's gonna be a lot better than
Speaker 1: you anticipate. Honestly, we have the capabilities based upon the
Speaker 1: way that our vocal runs things, is that we can
Speaker 1: have probably another offense similar to the one we had
Speaker 1: with Jeff Levy here. Now I remember that was like
Speaker 1: a top four offense. Do I think that happens next year?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I do think that the Bowl prediction,
Speaker 1: I think that it can happen with with Bo Bentley.
Speaker 1: I think by the time Bo Bentley's ready to play,
Speaker 1: it'll either happen with Michael Hawkins or Bo Bentley, but
Speaker 1: whenever one of those in between those two, I think
Speaker 1: that if Buckle is still here, they'll have the ability
Speaker 1: to have that do that that will be massive.
Speaker 2: And if our offense has a pulse sewan, you are
Speaker 2: one thousand. Correct. Our defense is better, so much better,
Speaker 2: so much better if you if you know, my background's
Speaker 2: in accounting, my degrees in accounting. And I heard a
Speaker 2: story a long, long time ago about about a guy
Speaker 2: who really thought that he was beating the system and
Speaker 2: he would rather have less guys who are willing to
Speaker 2: work more over time because he knew what the quality
Speaker 2: of work was going to be. And he said it
Speaker 2: worked famously for ten to twelve years, and then after
Speaker 2: about fifteen years he started losing dudes left and right
Speaker 2: and left and right and left and right. Why because
Speaker 2: they worked their ass off for ten to twelve years,
Speaker 2: working sixty five seventy five hours, you know, working overtime.
Speaker 2: And that's what our defense had to do last year.
Speaker 2: And all the pressure was you can't make a mistake
Speaker 2: because if you do, we are screwed because you get
Speaker 2: no help. And I think special teams also, special teams.
Speaker 2: I'd like to see special teams. Actually, I guess we
Speaker 2: can have punt returns and we can do.
Speaker 1: Still as those. I have questions about if we're allowed
Speaker 1: to do that, because that that's not something we've really
Speaker 1: seen here in a while. We haven't seen a situation
Speaker 1: where we're I mean, last year, I get I guess.
Speaker 1: I guess in the Brigitable era, we have been returning
Speaker 1: both wet, we've been drinking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lincoln Riley just he just didn't he didn't care.
Speaker 2: He didn't He wanted you just catch the ball and
Speaker 2: give it to the offense because he wanted that. He
Speaker 2: trusted the offense better than any special team. But you know,
Speaker 2: pop in the chat, who was the last Sooner to
Speaker 2: return a punt for a touchdown?
Speaker 1: Oh, that's so easy, you know, that's so easy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's easy.
Speaker 2: I just want to see the chat.
Speaker 1: I want to see does anybody remember the last person? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Hop in the comments, who's the last person to return
Speaker 1: a punt for a touchdown? I really don't. I would
Speaker 1: be surprised if y'all don't know that. And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest, I really would be surprised if y'all don't know. Hint,
Speaker 1: it was during it's been in the Venables era. So
Speaker 1: let's see. I haven't seen anybody but Tate. Tate Sendale
Speaker 1: did hit a sixty seven yarder field goal at the
Speaker 1: kicking camp. He's been his boot's been working.
Speaker 2: They there are several people got it.
Speaker 1: G freaking good job, gee freaky, it was g freaking
Speaker 1: he was Gavin Freeman and that wasn't that was this
Speaker 1: his first game, first game of season?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because his first touch. He had touchdowns on two
Speaker 2: first touches and that's all he did for the rest
Speaker 2: of the season.
Speaker 1: So you had an end a round four touchdown to.
Speaker 2: Okay, Like that's why I said that was the year
Speaker 2: before that?
Speaker 1: Oh was it year before?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Because his first touch in both years were those big.
Speaker 1: Fair point Arkansas State and then the end around fair
Speaker 1: That is a good point I did. You're right, Yeah, but.
Speaker 2: You know, we just haven't had anything. And I don't
Speaker 2: think that I think we kept on trying to throw
Speaker 2: you or Peyton Bowen back there for the punts. I
Speaker 2: don't I don't think that. I think he needs just
Speaker 2: focus on the safety spot, focus on the defense. I'd
Speaker 2: like to see a guy like a Satania. I'd like
Speaker 2: to see I mean, if somebody told me that, you know,
Speaker 2: Jacoby Johnson, you know, was a guy that could that
Speaker 2: could do it, I'd like to see him try. I know, Satana,
Speaker 2: like I said, is is one help? If Taylor Tatum
Speaker 2: could do it? Let him go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm here for Taylor Tatum type one. I could.
Speaker 1: I could handle that, But I don't think I want
Speaker 1: my running backs or my wire receivers back there anymore.
Speaker 1: I've lost interest in that.
Speaker 2: I just feel like Taylor Tatum might not be super
Speaker 2: relied upon. And that's why I'm okay. Now I know
Speaker 2: that his coach, his coach knows all about running backs
Speaker 2: getting hurt, you know, doing special teams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's what happened. I don't even want to
Speaker 1: why much you remind us about the fact that that
Speaker 1: happened to us.
Speaker 2: We all know that, we all know that that's pest,
Speaker 2: poor luck. That's not like, you know, squid kicking at halftime.
Speaker 2: But let's go away from PTSD.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't even want to think about that. Yeah, gosh,
Speaker 1: that was terrible. All right, thank you for pulling up
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Speaker 1: heading into the dark days and recruiting dead period. You
Speaker 1: have commitments come down the line. It appears you mean
Speaker 1: July fourth is coming up, got any big plans for
Speaker 1: the holiday?
Speaker 2: We always go over to our family to Nicole's parents' house.
Speaker 2: They do have a guy who runs trucking company and
Speaker 2: dude drops like twenty twenty five thousand dollars on fireworks
Speaker 2: and he's like, all you neighbors want to pitch in
Speaker 2: one hundred dollars or whatever, we can do it. Yeah
Speaker 2: if he if he cleans up. Also, I saw et
Speaker 2: on that one too, that would be yeah him. But anyway,
Speaker 2: so we go over there. I will Usually July is
Speaker 2: my my Uh I beat myself up pretty bad in
Speaker 2: July because fourth July and my birthday is July seventh,
Speaker 2: so you know, it's kind of like a week long affair.
Speaker 2: Usually my kidney's hurt. But I'm being a good boy.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm drinking Topo Chico and lime instead of
Speaker 2: Vauka soda or anything. But but no, that's a that's that.
Speaker 2: I mean, we we've been getting great news during that
Speaker 2: week the past couple of years. Uh. We all thought
Speaker 2: that Katie ruined fourth July for us, but it's been
Speaker 2: great since then. Yeah, hey, listen that it's only a
Speaker 2: week old. You guys realize the thunder is only a
Speaker 2: week old. It just crazy, It is crazy.
Speaker 1: Crazy about that the fact that we are actually NBA
Speaker 1: champions and it's only a week.
Speaker 2: But you know, it's it's funny because Naggie kept on
Speaker 2: putting out those tweets where you know, when Jada went off,
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, you football looking for a guy like this,
Speaker 2: And I saw a couple of people go, Jim Naggy,
Speaker 2: oh you fans are looking for production like this and
Speaker 2: put up the put up the thunder. And I, you know,
Speaker 2: I think that everybody. I do not have any tequila.
Speaker 2: I don't have anything here at the house, frightening otherwise
Speaker 2: I might have, but but I digress. You know, Fourth
Speaker 2: July is one of my favorite holidays, just because my birthday.
Speaker 2: We used to go up to Wisconsin for Fourth of
Speaker 2: July and so it was like it peaked out at
Speaker 2: like ninety degrees and we just go fishing in the
Speaker 2: Superior and have a blast. I've always loved the time
Speaker 2: of year.
Speaker 1: What about this is a good time.
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna probably take a couple of days go relax.
Speaker 1: My kids, my nieces and nephews and little cousins. They
Speaker 1: always get together as they're all mainly adults now, so
Speaker 1: they're gonna get together on the fourth and do their
Speaker 1: little thing, and I'm just gonna find a way to
Speaker 1: not be around. I'm just gonna let them enjoy themselves
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do a good job of relaxing. And
Speaker 1: then we're gonna come up on your birthday, which is
Speaker 1: the seventh. They we're gonna come up on my birthday
Speaker 1: which is the fourteenth, and then we're gonna go and
Speaker 1: really party hard because we're hoping that there's some flipping
Speaker 1: commitments that happened in July, which I wanna remind you all,
Speaker 1: Oklahoma has done its best work usually in the end
Speaker 1: of July early August, which is also to even add
Speaker 1: to that, which is kind of funny. It's we typically
Speaker 1: even we see majority of our work, then we also
Speaker 1: we also don't see a lot of the flip miss stuff.
Speaker 1: I want to see a lot of players disappearing off
Speaker 1: of our recruiting sheet, right, is that like something that
Speaker 1: I think we should be happy about that? Do you
Speaker 1: guys like hearing about flips?
Speaker 2: We saw we saw some flips, you know, like a
Speaker 2: Jade and O'Neil. If if you weren't paying attention, then
Speaker 2: that's the only reason why that that surprised anybody. You know, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we don't want to steal people's you know, people's thunder.
Speaker 2: We don't want to steal their experience because that you know,
Speaker 2: again it's Jaden wanted the best for him. His folks
Speaker 2: wanted the best for him. But you know, I like
Speaker 2: not having a lot of this situation. You know, the
Speaker 2: Conly thing was a little odd. It just kind of
Speaker 2: seems shady from the get go. And but it's much
Speaker 2: better because I mean, it's how many people at Miami.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what to if I was a
Speaker 2: Miami fan, I don't even know how to take the
Speaker 2: the their recruiting because every few days they lose somebody
Speaker 2: and every few days they flip somebody. And so it's,
Speaker 2: you know, how do you come together as a team
Speaker 2: when you got new names every single time that you
Speaker 2: guys get together, where you got to change a new
Speaker 2: group text every you know, every week, because there's cats
Speaker 2: that are gone and dudes that came in that you
Speaker 2: didn't even know who they were. So yeah, but yeah, Jay,
Speaker 2: I mean it's you know, July seventh, July fourteenth, if
Speaker 2: you guys didn't know Jay and I that's why we
Speaker 2: are this way, we're best friends. It's because our birthdays
Speaker 2: are early a week apart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, cancer game.
Speaker 2: I don't think we actually, I don't think we actually
Speaker 2: knew about that until earlier this year.
Speaker 1: We actually realized that until like this year. Like wait
Speaker 1: a minute, way, whoa, whoa, whoa. Everybody's that close exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing though, Like as people were saying
Speaker 1: here in the comments, I'm not seeing very many other
Speaker 1: questions what I've been scrolling through to see there's any
Speaker 1: more questions or whatnot. But oh, seriously, the thing for
Speaker 1: Oklahoma to be in order to be successful this year,
Speaker 1: and I get the want to keep my expectations low
Speaker 1: just in case I'm outside of that. Now I've seen
Speaker 1: this team have a god awful offense and still win
Speaker 1: six games. That told me enough about what this staff
Speaker 1: is trying to put together. Now, I just need them
Speaker 1: to go ahead and do the rest of it. I
Speaker 1: need the opposite side to pull its weight and then
Speaker 1: we're good.
Speaker 2: But and and one of those games was it was Alabama,
Speaker 2: and Alabama wasn't like perennial Alabama. I really do wish
Speaker 2: I had some tequila for this, but but it's still
Speaker 2: it's still June. I can't self deprivate until July first,
Speaker 2: so Tuesday it is. But yeah, I'm thinking about what
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go get now. But I uh, I just
Speaker 2: really really believe that this this team this year has
Speaker 2: some has the capabilities of doing, I mean, an absolute
Speaker 2: great thing. And you know, I would say this is
Speaker 2: with so many questions across you know, college football in general,
Speaker 2: I would say that guys just hold on because once
Speaker 2: July hits and once all these new these new things
Speaker 2: start getting implemented on teams and people who don't have
Speaker 2: front office is set up very well start going, oh shit,
Speaker 2: we didn't know about this or what was it. Brad Stevens,
Speaker 2: you know, they they traded away a couple of players
Speaker 2: from the Clippers, and he said, I wasn't very aware
Speaker 2: of the second apron. And You're like, one job, one job.
Speaker 2: How do we put together a good team? And what
Speaker 2: are the rules in doing so? That's your only dad
Speaker 2: gum job at this point. And so I think, but
Speaker 2: I do. I think that there are a lot of
Speaker 2: universities that are going to go looking at some stuff
Speaker 2: and go, oh god, yeah, Richter, recruit, come in here.
Speaker 2: We need to have a little talk, and you're gonna
Speaker 2: see a lot of guys open up and and you know, again,
Speaker 2: if you go out and you do it on the field,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a I mean, it's gonna be a
Speaker 2: fun season. We saw, was FASUSI September? When was his commitment?
Speaker 2: Was it September or was it October when he finally
Speaker 2: shut it down?
Speaker 1: Who August is when I think he committed?
Speaker 2: Tell us the home was August? I think, I mean
Speaker 2: it was it was.
Speaker 1: And then obviously for some visits in November, when you know,
Speaker 1: Latrell basically was fired and he had to make some changes.
Speaker 1: But because he thought a beating bow wasn't going anywhere,
Speaker 1: he's stuck in.
Speaker 2: Okay. I just remember it was later in the year
Speaker 2: and we had a huge, huge, you know, gap in
Speaker 2: between commitments, and and I think that you start putting
Speaker 2: together some you part, you start putting together some you know,
Speaker 2: a run, you put together you know, a six and
Speaker 2: oh five and one start, and there's gonna be a
Speaker 2: lot of people who are that Michigan game. I think
Speaker 2: that it's going to get a lot more competitive speakabouts,
Speaker 2: But I don't, I don't. I just don't see Michigan
Speaker 2: coming in here and hanging with OU. This year, their
Speaker 2: offense was just as bad as ours. They lost a
Speaker 2: ton on defense, and right now it's they're they're expected
Speaker 2: to be good on defense because they have been recently
Speaker 2: and they've reloaded recently. Well guess what. There ain't nobody
Speaker 2: with a GoPro and a and a drone filming and
Speaker 2: practices anymore. So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: So someone there was a question that was asking kJ
Speaker 1: Ford hasn't committed anywhere, so I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: going to be flipping since he doesn't committed, and it
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like very many people have given him a
Speaker 1: committable offer yet it's kind of weird.
Speaker 2: There's I don't know, I don't like saying those types
Speaker 2: of things, but there are some things there, and I
Speaker 2: think that kJ Ford is going to be one that
Speaker 2: draws into the fall. I think it could be a
Speaker 2: September he's good. I like October thing that he's good
Speaker 2: and I like him. But yeah, here it has to
Speaker 2: be linked up because there's a lot of dudes on
Speaker 2: my list over here who were just mental midgets and
Speaker 2: you can't I mean now that it is. We've always
Speaker 2: knew that, known that college football is a business, but
Speaker 2: now that it is legitimately an outward business. You know,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't go hire a seller to come into, you know,
Speaker 2: my network who I thought was a too type of
Speaker 2: a person, or an Antonio Brown who was going to
Speaker 2: be good until he wasn't and then just destroy everything
Speaker 2: that you've put together. So those are things, and you
Speaker 2: know what, that's not what I'm saying he is, but
Speaker 2: there's a lot there that uh, you got to follow,
Speaker 2: you know, follow it because if if there were, if
Speaker 2: that wasn't the case, he'd be somewhere committed on Yeah,
Speaker 2: especially after what he did at Rival Scan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've had some portal flips. We've had some player flips.
Speaker 1: Oh well player fl I mean the biggest one with
Speaker 1: Peyton Bowen. You know, that's the one. So the question
Speaker 1: that was asked was do we see any players let
Speaker 1: me pull it up her from Mitch. If we have
Speaker 1: a good season, do we expect to see some flips
Speaker 1: in November December. I'm gonna say yes. I think that
Speaker 1: Oklahoma will have the opportunity to do that, and I
Speaker 1: think kids would be more interesting right now the most
Speaker 1: important thing is a lot of the players want to
Speaker 1: see the product on the field, just like you fans do.
Speaker 1: A lot of you fans aren't bodying like I am,
Speaker 1: because you want to see the product. And in a
Speaker 1: lot of situations you have to see. A lot of
Speaker 1: us miss the forest for the trees, and I totally
Speaker 1: understand that because in a lot of situations you need
Speaker 1: do need to focus on the trees itself, the little
Speaker 1: things here. But the long term plan is, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna drop a video about Naggy soon. I actually talk
Speaker 1: about it unlocked on Sooners for the show that's come
Speaker 1: out tomorrow, and I'm gonna drop another one here on
Speaker 1: this channel, or I'm gonna dive a little bit deeper
Speaker 1: into what I'm looking at when it comes to what
Speaker 1: Naggie is doing. But the notes of that is this
Speaker 1: is gonna be a two to three year project. First,
Speaker 1: nagg he's gonna have to see what these actually maybe
Speaker 1: four year he's gonna have to see what his evaluational
Speaker 1: high schoolers and how quickly they evolve into the players
Speaker 1: they're looking for the next year. And that's gonna take
Speaker 1: some time to figure that component out. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a formula that's going to be figured out. And the
Speaker 1: traits not only just the pro traits in high school,
Speaker 1: but the traits that you feel like translate more and
Speaker 1: more towards the NFL as they get developed. So there's
Speaker 1: a lot that we're gonna have to wait for. But
Speaker 1: to answer this question, I do think that a good
Speaker 1: season does lead to flips.
Speaker 2: And I would say this that I don't think it's
Speaker 2: gonna be necessarily flips. I think you're gonna have guys
Speaker 2: who are committed because they wanted to get their spot,
Speaker 2: they wanted to land in. And that's a big deal.
Speaker 2: Is you don't want to be you know, There's something
Speaker 2: that Jade O'Neill was really starting to kind of approach
Speaker 2: was do you I have somewhere to go because you're
Speaker 2: not I mean again, we probed it. You're not taken
Speaker 2: to you know, highly ranked and highly thought of quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: and so I think what will happen is you'll have
Speaker 2: uh And let's I'm just gonna say, I don't think
Speaker 2: that tampering is a thing anymore. It is what it is.
Speaker 2: I get job at offers situations all the time on
Speaker 2: LinkedIn and they don't even know if I'm good at
Speaker 2: my job. I don't. I think I kind of am,
Speaker 2: but they don't.
Speaker 1: No questionable, but question.
Speaker 2: But I will say I will say this is you're
Speaker 2: going to have people saying, hey, you're looking at what's
Speaker 2: going on down here, right, and we'll see the commitments happening.
Speaker 2: And so I think that we'll see guys de commit
Speaker 2: and then wait a couple of weeks and then commit
Speaker 2: to O you if if OU rolls one out. But
Speaker 2: I don't think that we'll see a bunch of people
Speaker 2: who you know, put you know, flip alert or anything
Speaker 2: like that. They'll de commit then then turn Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so Jonathan asked this good question, do we expect
Speaker 1: Naggie to be around that long? Wasn't an interview with
Speaker 1: NFL jobs before to side? And oh, you I think
Speaker 1: he was. I honestly expect Naggy to last here. I
Speaker 1: give him five years, I really do, And I say
Speaker 1: that six is not bad. I say five will probably
Speaker 1: be the maximum we'd be able to hang on to him, because, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get an NFL job that's gonna try to
Speaker 1: snatch him. But I think the thing that intrigued him
Speaker 1: the most here is that this is completely new, Like
Speaker 1: this is a completely new setup scenario and everything, and
Speaker 1: so I can totally see him saying, I wanna, I
Speaker 1: want to see this out and I want to see
Speaker 1: if we can build something. Because if he does build
Speaker 1: something special, yeah, you're gonna have an NFL job that's
Speaker 1: gonna come a knocking. The question for him is is
Speaker 1: that is he willing to go take that job and
Speaker 1: have depending on who's offering the hiring that is, is
Speaker 1: he willing to take that and risk being fired in
Speaker 1: so many years depending on who's hiring, or is he
Speaker 1: looking for something that's going to keep him stable for
Speaker 1: like the next ten years before he decides to go
Speaker 1: ahead and hang it up. Some coaches, gms and stuff
Speaker 1: are like that. They'll rather take a job that allows
Speaker 1: for them to really implement who they are for long hold.
Speaker 1: Perfect example, Sam Presty's probably one of the most the
Speaker 1: gms it's seen at the most people are talking about
Speaker 1: it now, which I think is stupid. I get it,
Speaker 1: But if they still think it's stupid because people have
Speaker 1: been trying to price Sam Presty away from Oklahoma City
Speaker 1: for like ten years, and they haven't because Presty has
Speaker 1: too much power and he enjoys not only the power
Speaker 1: he has, but the ability to be able to do
Speaker 1: his job the way he wants to get it done
Speaker 1: with very very little hand on him oversight.
Speaker 2: And I will say this with Sam Presty. I mean
Speaker 2: not to completely flip it, but go talk to go
Speaker 2: listen to what Chris Paul, Paul, George Mellow. You know
Speaker 2: all these casts who came through here, ask them what
Speaker 2: the one of the you know, one of the best
Speaker 2: places that they played was it's okay see. And I
Speaker 2: think that I think that, you know, certain sports outlets
Speaker 2: don't like that here in Oklahoma because don't like what
Speaker 2: I'm about to say here in Oklahoma, because he just
Speaker 2: lets the players live their lives, do ball, go, do,
Speaker 2: do whatever you want. You don't have psychomedia outside of
Speaker 2: Barry Trammel, Who's going to ask you some ridiculous question
Speaker 2: every once in a while. But you're you're you're going
Speaker 2: to enjoy being here. You know what, is there a
Speaker 2: cool club scene at four am? No, there's notes, But
Speaker 2: can you you know, with the money these guys are making,
Speaker 2: can you can you catch a flight? Yeah? You can't.
Speaker 2: I just think that with with Naggie, he's going to
Speaker 2: go to the NFL. That's it's the same thing as
Speaker 2: you know, who's the next college coach to head to
Speaker 2: the NFL, Because the NFL is more of a just
Speaker 2: you know, stick to football situation. You don't have the
Speaker 2: nil you don't have rules changing every because I don't
Speaker 2: think July starts the next session of Shenanigans with the
Speaker 2: pay you know, the paying of players things. But if
Speaker 2: you guys, I mean I haven't already realized this. This
Speaker 2: is like step two of maybe five. I think that
Speaker 2: more and more changes and shifts and everything like that
Speaker 2: are going to happen every year for the next couple
Speaker 2: of years. Because the first player who steps up and says, nope,
Speaker 2: I am willing to you guys are violating my rights
Speaker 2: and you are hampering what I can earn and I'm
Speaker 2: taking out of court. The first player to do that
Speaker 2: is it is going to open up the next floodgate
Speaker 2: of you know, of the Shenanigan. So this thing is
Speaker 2: a completely liquid situation, and I fluid situation, and I
Speaker 2: think that we still have a lot to go before
Speaker 2: all this stuff is done. And that may you know,
Speaker 2: Naggie may after three years be like, all right, it's
Speaker 2: Stacy Ford. I laid the groundwork, knock it out to
Speaker 2: the league. I go.
Speaker 1: There's always a possibility, and there's also a possibility that
Speaker 1: he sticks around. But yeah, this is I think this
Speaker 1: is step step two of twenty. Uh. College football is
Speaker 1: gonna keep evolving and I'm here for it. I don't
Speaker 1: mind it. It doesn't bother me because if you want
Speaker 1: to be one hundred percent honest with it, ain't much
Speaker 1: change in college football like y'all think it has. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know everyone is complaining, Oh, nil has ruined football.
Speaker 1: It's the same schools getting the same players they were
Speaker 1: gonna get before NIL, and after it's all the same. Like,
Speaker 1: it's the only schools that have surprised us in getting
Speaker 1: more players than we would have expected. Now it's SMU,
Speaker 1: that's it. In Texas Tech. They're probably the two schools
Speaker 1: that have dove headfirst into NIL and have really capitalized
Speaker 1: on it. But outside of those two, let's be honest, Yeah,
Speaker 1: how many have any we have really done anything with
Speaker 1: it that we're not used to, Like we're used to
Speaker 1: Maryland landing a random five star We're used to North
Speaker 1: Carolina landing a random five star. We're also used to Georgia, Alabama, Texas.
Speaker 1: You know, we're used to Florida. We're used to Oklahoma
Speaker 1: randomly doing it, Ohio State, Michigan, all the same schools
Speaker 1: usc all the same schools that typically get high end players.
Speaker 1: They're just getting the same dudes they used to getting.
Speaker 1: It ain't much of a change.
Speaker 2: It's you know, you may see the pop up, like
Speaker 2: last year with Georgia Tech pulling the five star offensive lineman.
Speaker 2: You may see that situation. But look, I mean, look
Speaker 2: at basketball news broke the other day of a dude
Speaker 2: who was from the Virginia area, five star, five star
Speaker 2: basketball player committed to Virginia Commonwealth BCU. So it happens. Still,
Speaker 2: it happened. That happens basketball b YU.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. BYU is the other one that's really out
Speaker 1: there burning it because Ryan Smith, the owner of the
Speaker 1: Utah Jazz and the Utah Mammoths of the NHL, wants
Speaker 1: by you to be good. So you're seeing some small
Speaker 1: pop ups. She ain't getting it as much. But Chuck,
Speaker 1: to answer your question, you're asking about negative recruiting, and
Speaker 1: let me explain what negative recruiting actually is. It's not tampering.
Speaker 1: Negative recruiting is when they walk into a room and
Speaker 1: let me explain what I mean by this too. Negative
Speaker 1: recruiting is when a coach walks into a room and say, hey,
Speaker 1: you saw it having to Oklahoma last year, all those injuries,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be you if you go there. You shouldn't
Speaker 1: go there because they had deal with a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of injuries. They've got all these problems. That's negative recruiting.
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, this year has been working because all those
Speaker 1: dudes that were hurt transferred out. Now, that's no different
Speaker 1: than any other year. The tampering component is is if
Speaker 1: people are reaching out and talking to our players on
Speaker 1: our roster and trying to get them out of our roster.
Speaker 1: And we've had that. We've had schools reach out to
Speaker 1: Jay and Jackson. We've had schools hit up David Stone,
Speaker 1: We've had schools hit up all these kids and trying
Speaker 1: to get them to lead. That's tampering. And I think, honestly,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a lot tougher because once the rev
Speaker 1: share portion kicks in, you're gonna see all these buyouts
Speaker 1: and school's gonna be willing to pay buyouts. Don't get
Speaker 1: it twisted. It's like in the pros, and I think
Speaker 1: that that actually gets to me. That to me, is
Speaker 1: what's gonna lead to. The buyout world is gonna really
Speaker 1: change to meet college football the most because it'll be
Speaker 1: where you'll actually see schools thinking about, all right, do
Speaker 1: I really want to pay that dude's buy out and
Speaker 1: actually take him? Do I really want? Am I really
Speaker 1: that interested in this kid? That's gonna because you're not
Speaker 1: gonna be if you're shopping kids around, you gotta keep
Speaker 1: in mind that buyouts gonna be there when that buyout
Speaker 1: has to go through. A lot of schools are not
Speaker 1: for everybody. There's gonna be some. But then at the
Speaker 1: same time, you're the school that they're at. The school's
Speaker 1: probably gonna be like, I mean, got rep share, we
Speaker 1: can do that now. Granted, overall with all of this,
Speaker 1: it's still in the same realm if you really think
Speaker 1: about it, it's the same realm of you're gonna pay
Speaker 1: the players that you want to keep, you're gonna let
Speaker 1: other guys go, And it's really the bigger schools that
Speaker 1: have the bigger revshare pie are the ones that's gonna
Speaker 1: spend the money. So my point with the like the
Speaker 1: native recruiting component is that's what they're doing. They're just
Speaker 1: walking in saying that this. Go look at what happened
Speaker 1: to them last year. It's no different than before. We
Speaker 1: just seen it amplify because of how injury prone we
Speaker 1: were last year. Look at two thousand and eight, was
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine season, That two thousand and nine
Speaker 1: recruiting nine to ten to the twenty ten season, that
Speaker 1: recruiting was similar. They were all over us of Hey,
Speaker 1: they had Trent Williams playing center because they were so injured. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: you want to go play.
Speaker 2: Grisham went down as they b went down. It's just
Speaker 2: every single day everybody went down. Was you know that
Speaker 2: year was a we're headed to the National Championship game year,
Speaker 2: and you know that was getting the Landry area because
Speaker 2: of it. I remember it was against BYU. I was
Speaker 2: djaying a wedding here in Tulsa. I can name the place,
Speaker 2: and I can name how pissed off I was wird
Speaker 2: that same we went down on his shoulder. But it's
Speaker 2: it's another thing that I canna be a big one
Speaker 2: is a lot of us are going to be looking at. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the conversations that start happening around Hey, like the David
Speaker 2: Stone situation this year. David Stone was a five star
Speaker 2: defensive lineman here from Oklahoma, obviously went to IMG, but
Speaker 2: he didn't produce five star defensive lineman money, you know,
Speaker 2: a talent out on the field of production. And so
Speaker 2: there's going to be those tough conversations where it's like, hey,
Speaker 2: you didn't do kind of what we thought you were
Speaker 2: going to do, so your pay decrease is going to
Speaker 2: be X and they're gonna be like, but I was
Speaker 2: a five star. There were guys in front of me. Listen,
Speaker 2: if you're a five star and you're getting paid five
Speaker 2: star money, you need to show up and do five
Speaker 2: star production. That those conversations are gonna start happening. And
Speaker 2: it can't be but he's a he's an okay preps guy,
Speaker 2: but he's you know, was a leader of our recruiting class.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. There's no feelings involved in that stuff.
Speaker 2: And so that's gonna be the hard thing is if
Speaker 2: you want to give a guy who showed up as
Speaker 2: a three star balled out and made All Conference third team.
Speaker 2: Then you're gonna see the opposite where you also have
Speaker 2: to take a guy who had high expectations and didn't
Speaker 2: do as well and him take a pay cut.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's.
Speaker 2: Gonna be a year to year, year to year.
Speaker 1: And that's gonna be the fun part about it is
Speaker 1: because it's gonna get more stable. And it actually leads
Speaker 1: back to the Jim Naggy conversation of how long would
Speaker 1: Jim Naggy be here to Oklahoma? And you never know
Speaker 1: if this may be a puzzle, he may enjoy a
Speaker 1: lot more than you think and doesn't want to go
Speaker 1: to the NFL, cause it does change. Every four years
Speaker 1: you're bringing in, every year you're bringing in a new class,
Speaker 1: and every four years you're refreshing. You know that. I
Speaker 1: mean that adds a level of excitement and truth be told,
Speaker 1: For the coaching staff, life is so much easier for
Speaker 1: them because they don't have to do all the work
Speaker 1: of the initial eval the the the front office understands
Speaker 1: the type of players that this staff likes and the
Speaker 1: ones that make the most sense for what we're trying
Speaker 1: to achieve, and so guess what they focus on football,
Speaker 1: So as we say NF You know, NAGGI gos to
Speaker 1: the NFL is just NFL stuff. To be honest, as
Speaker 1: we tweak and we establish what NIL standards are, what
Speaker 1: the rev share standards are. Now that jazz it's NFL,
Speaker 1: but it's a very watered down version, like the numbers
Speaker 1: are so much lower. This is gonna be a lot.
Speaker 1: It'll be an easier way of vanaging, while at the
Speaker 1: same time, because it's a little bit more complex, gives
Speaker 1: them mut you needed experience that Honestly, you'll see a
Speaker 1: lot of these dudes end up getting NFL jobs. I
Speaker 1: think the NFL is gonna be NFL teams and owners
Speaker 1: will look at these guys as innovators and creators to
Speaker 1: do new type of fangled things in the at the
Speaker 1: next level. They'll be like, Okay, we can bring you
Speaker 1: in and try to change the way that we're scouting
Speaker 1: players or looking at players for the draft or whatnot.
Speaker 1: That to me is what I see with him, So
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be fun. That's gonna be fascinating
Speaker 1: to me long term.
Speaker 2: Well. Also, last point on that is outside of game days,
Speaker 2: this man is going to be somebody who is lauded
Speaker 2: by the entire fan base across the across the country,
Speaker 2: across the world or whatever. But every day he walks out,
Speaker 2: he's in a hundred thousand person town and everybody around
Speaker 2: him has places to go, things to do, and they
Speaker 2: go to school, and they don't have the there's not
Speaker 2: the fandom. He can walk around like mister nobody, but
Speaker 2: be the king of you know, a blue blood program.
Speaker 2: And it's much better than walking out and being downtown La,
Speaker 2: being downtown San Diego, Vegas. You know, I don't think
Speaker 2: he's going to Green Bay, that would be a little
Speaker 2: bit of a switchero, but Indianapolis even so, I think
Speaker 2: that there's a lot to it that I think that
Speaker 2: he's going to, you know, fine, kind of like we
Speaker 2: said with the players that one of the thunder is,
Speaker 2: you know, you can kind of just be free to
Speaker 2: live your life because you know, those guys can't go places.
Speaker 2: You know, right now they are the kings, the kings
Speaker 2: of the world. But still I think just this area,
Speaker 2: you know, there's there's a lot of freedom to be
Speaker 2: able to go out and Starbucks, grab a sandwich, go
Speaker 2: to the mall and buy something and not have paparazzi
Speaker 2: all over you.
Speaker 1: Yep, And Noggie's gonna be that dude walking around here
Speaker 1: and be able to do a lot of that. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna have some fun this coming season. And of
Speaker 1: course me and Coople dive into as much as happening.
Speaker 1: As the conversations go down, there's gonna be a new
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