Speaker 1: From Chicago to Krova, from dodging tackles on the rugby
pitch to covering drives on the Marriotte Center baseline. He's
traded in scrums for statutes, creeps for courtside coverage, and
somehow he draws more contact than half the Big Twelve.
He's runnal the three man Weaver. He'll break down the
match out, story levels and give you everything you.
Speaker 2: Need to know before tim off. This it's the Cougar
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Show here on one O three nine and ninety eight
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ron Off the three Male Weaver here gonna be taking
you guys up into tip off. It is game day.
My goodness. Uh never thought this game would come so fast.
It is Saturday, January seventeenth. Whoa, whoa, whoa, things have
gone by way too fast. Celebrate I remember Christmas, celebrating
with my daughter, her second one, the one she can
actually like remember. And basketball season's picked up, my goodness.
I mean before we know it. We're gonna be, you know,
in February, only a few weeks away, and that's crazy.
You gotta enjoy the season while it lasts. I mean, look,
spring ball will be around the corner, but right now
it is hoop season and we're gonna talk all things
related to this basketball game tonight. It is a good
one BYU Top fifteen matchup. In case you live under
a rock, and hopefully you don't, hopefully you'll be tuned in.
Number eleven BYU is making its first of two trips
to the lone Star State this season. They're facing Number
fifteen Texas Tech. Like I said, Top fifteen matchup at
the United Supermarkets Arena in lubb It. It is hard
to win down there and lub It. Tip off the
schedule for seven pm Central Time, that's six pm Mountain
time our time. The game is gonna be on ESPN
plus the wonderful Dave Fleming. Love Dave Fleming and guess what,
we love Sean Farnham friend for BYU. Not really fan
of the program. We've never had sewn on. Don't want
to say that, but Sean's not going to be doing
this game. It's gonna be friend for Schello, who is
a friend of the program. We've had friend on many
times on this show and at BYU wins, who might
have to have him on next week. They're Cougar Nations
predicting the victory. We'll get into that in the third segment.
But this is going to be BYU's toughest matchup in
conference thus far, not on the season, because they faced
number three Yukon. Reminder, they lost that game by two.
It was on a neutral site really in Yukon's backyard.
As everybody remembers. That was an eighty six to eighty
four loss. That was wa ely in the season. That
was a different BYU team, This team led by j Debonsa,
who was playing phenomenal by the way, just in case
you missed it, still averaging twenty three point one points
per game as a top five score on college basketball.
And he's right up there with the guy who is
I think the biggest factor tonight. Excuse me, almost burked
right there. He is going to be a problem. This
man is a problem. He shoots over fifty six percent
from the field. He averages a double double that's twenty
one point three points and eleven boards and two point
two assists. That is when j T Top and the
six nine hundred and thirty pounder from Dallas, Texas, the
I believe RICHERT Junior if I'm not correct, this kid
the last game he played in, which was against Utah,
who by you played this brother went bonkers. He had
thirty one points in thirty six minutes. He shot sixty
point nine percent from the field, seventy five percent from three.
He was two or four but well, you know, excuse me,
not two four, three or four, excuse me bonkers. And
he had third to rebounds, seven assists, five blocks, one steal.
This man is it? This man is an issue. Look,
I would be lying to say if I said that
there is not a little of fear in my heart.
And look, this is what it's all about, though, it's
about beating these big time teams. It is. That's exactly
what it's about. Without further ado, let's go ahead. We're
gonna fire up the Cougar basketball pre game starting lineup,
and I want to introduce to you the coast I
have for today. Get his thoughts on the man who
I just talked about. We were talking about it before
we went live because both of us respect game. But
this guy JT. Toppin, that's the guy that's on the
scout sheet. But it's not just him, it's a multitude
of other people who will tell you momentarily, let's walk
him in the running back Here at ESP and the
fan for Cougar Sports with a Couger basketball pre game,
I got answer Peterson behind the glass ap. Glad to
be back with me again, brother.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's been a few games. I've had some scheduling conflict.
Speaker 2: But we're back. We're back, We're back.
Speaker 3: And uh yeah, I guess I would be a running back.
Speaker 4: Who played football night basketball position. I'm a shooting guard,
love it absolutely. I'm the corner three guy. Do not
ask me to handle them. I don't have anything on
my sleeve and I got the right hand and that's it.
Speaker 2: That's okay. Everybody has to play their role on the tape.
You need guys that are gonna be ball handlers. You
need guys that are lethal shooters. And that's what BYU
I think is missing. We had Robbie mccoms on the
weekly show Cougar Sports has been uh critle and you
know he was talking about the bitch that Mahilo Boscovinc.
Needs to be that guy. And this is going back
to an interview with Jay drew A. Jay Drews thinks
that they're missing that sniper shooter three pointer off the bench.
And as I thought about it more, I know this
team is different. You know, Robbie said, Mohilo is going
to be the guy. They're gonna play Mohilo because teams
have to account for him. If you miss the interview,
you can get it on the podcast. The Cougar Sports
have been crital a la cart but I liked ap.
I don't know if you caught the interview, but I
agree with him because spacing wise, Mahilo being six ten,
six eleven, if you don't account for him, he can Bernie.
Remember he had twelve points in at Kansas State game
on the road. Bay He's a big twelve opener. Conference
opener was on the road. The Cougars came out with
a victory, was glorious. It was wonderful to start off
conference the right way. But you need that guy to
come through tonight. You need him a step up. I
know he does not He never unlike all he doesn't.
He doesn't see a shot. He doesn't like that's the
best way to put that, and I think you would agree.
He likes to shoot exactly, and it doesn't matter whether
it's contested non contestant. I know last game was really
rough for b Why you had was that man had
a tremendous defensive stop on one side, then goes down
and should have pulled the three, but decided he wanted to,
you know, maybe get a little bit too cute to
like to say that didn't look at his footing, moves
two steps to the left with the ball in his hand.
You cannot do that that. It's called a travel ladies
and gentlemen, if you don't know the rules of basketball.
And he turned the ball over right the other way.
And it was a frustrating game, but look, you gotta
win those. The Houston's, even the Texas tech Ap sometimes
good basketball teams. Ioway states, she'll get it tomorrow scoreboard
update in our second segment, and just the Big twelve
basketball in general. There's been a lot of controversy and
things at a corner around but yeah, it's it's crazy.
We'll see, maybe we'll have a surprise guest. Maybe I'll
be able to get leaf Tulan who is a college
of basketball and listen the host of Locked on Arizona.
He covers the Arizona Wildcats and he's a big towel
basketball college analyst. This guy, uh, this guy knows ball
and he covers the team that bo you will play
in a few weeks. Maybe we'll have him on to
get his discuss, get his thoughts on the matchup tonight.
He is locked in on all things related punt intended
right there to the big toe basketball. But more importantly,
going back to my main point is that you need
to win games like that AP. You need to have
a couple of gritty wins that are ugly where you
shoot bad. But it's like Kevin Young said, when you
rebound at a high level, you get or plus eighteen
in the second half, when you're plus fifteen when out
rebound someone fifty one to thirty six, when you have
twenty one offensive rebounds. That helps you be able to
get wins when you don't shoot too well, maybe from
the floor.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, let's be let's be honest here, b YU in
conference like Kansas State was a good win, then good
wins double digits yep. But these Utah and TCU games
were ugly. There's absolutely nothing pretty about him, and I
want to bring the up. I think there's an argument
to be made that those two games were Aj Debonsa's
worst games as a BYU cougar, I agree with that,
and yet he's still averaged twenty two and a half
points in those two games.
Speaker 2: Love it?
Speaker 3: How wild is that? When's the last time you could
say that as a BYU fan? Is that Jimmer? I did? Jimmer?
Was Jimmer able to say that that his bad games
were twenty points? Twenty five points?
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I don't know.
Speaker 3: That's that's crazy to me.
Speaker 2: That is crazy. You're not wrong, as mentioned aged of
Debond's in those last two games, there's an argument to
be made. He's not wrong. Aj maybe didn't have his
best performances of the season those last two games. Look, Utah,
he was six of eleven. If you look at every
other stat line game nine to seventeen against Clemson, ten
of fifteen against cal Baptists, seven to twelve against Dayton.
Maybe that Miami game five and fourteen, that was probably
the worst one. You know, he had sixteen points. But
outside of that one, like, yeah, that's up there in
conference play. Since you start a conference you have you
eight to fifteen against Kansas State, seven to thirteen against
Arizona State TCU, eight of twenty two. That's the worst
shooting performance there from the floor at least overall. He
still had twenty five points and like you said, twenty
two and a half. That's what he said. And he's
still shooting above a forty five percent from there. Now.
He is not the best three point shooter. He is
two of ten in those matchups. That's going to be
on the scout on report tonight. He shot twenty eight
point six percent against TCU. And I remember he also
wasn't feeling the best. He was under the weather, he
was sick. Richie Saunders said that in the post game,
Kevin Young confirmed it. Spencer Linton shot out to him
a bou TV Sports Nation was the one that caught
wind of it, d ESPN broadcasting and I'm pretty sure
as well, and this also was told per Spencer Linton
as well. AG did no post game, he did not come.
We were there as Richie saunas by himself, which by
u AP, if you know, normally doesn't do that. They
try to give you at least two players. Normally they
try to do that. That's not likely of them, but
they shut him down. He did no postgame interviews and
even I think a step further, they shut him down
and he didn't even practice the last two days and
night he made the trip. If you follow social media,
they said on their way to love it. Aj Debonsa
is in Lubbick. He will play tonight. Obviously, no reports,
so we'll see what Gregor bell I know he has
a show and has Kevin Young stop Bible. Get an
update on who the people that didn't make the trip.
E Xavion Staten is out for this game. We'll get
more into who's out in the last segment. But there's
a big man that is back that is going to
help Byu and you could tell and look, I'll say
this and maybe this might be more offseason talk. They're
gonna have to go replace Caba and get maybe another.
They might have to have three bigs, you know, next
year ap because when you're missing one of the guys,
they're able to get by. But to really compete for
a final four birth of even Elite eight, they need
both of They need both Kibakida and Bedu to be available.
You can't go one way out the other. And we're
starting to see signs of it. And the deeper you
get it to March manage tournament, because that's what we're
talking about. We're not talking about BYU one big twelve tournament.
That's great if they do that, but we're talking about
a deep run in March madness. You need all big
men available. Look at what happened with Houston. They have
multiple bodies. Look at what happened with Florida, they had
multiple bodies. You cannot have one guy do that. So
whatever it may be, for love, all this toldly, if
you need some chicken noodle soup, if you need some
niq will, I don't know what it'd be. You know,
if there's sickness, get it together and then don't follow
on your players, watch and watch it. I know Richie
be a mad man out there and the other players listening.
The opposing team, don't whack good dudes outside they had
pull arms, fall on shoulders. I know basketball is a
physical game, but you don't injure the BYU players because
depth and help along this BYU team. They they've had
their fair share of injuries and I don't think BYU
can afford any injuries in that front court ap.
Speaker 5: And we saw that just as recently as last game
when Bido was out and Kaiva got in trouble, the
Yu had to get creative with their rotations and everything.
Quite frankly, if you played a better team than TCU,
which is not a good team, they're not they Utah
and they are notam justin TCU not good. Started off
the season with a lost Newton.
Speaker 2: You feel bad because that team defensively has been locked
in and they've been able to compete in every game.
But that loss up on the Hill is not a
good loss at least right now at the moment.
Speaker 5: If you played a better team last game, I don't
know that b WAYU wins.
Speaker 3: That's how important Beido is to this team.
Speaker 5: Because Kaiba found himself in trouble, Ritchie found himself in trouble.
AJ was sick, I don't remember was Boskovic and foul
trouble at one point.
Speaker 2: I don't think Mihilo got that deepenout. I'm actually len
be double check on.
Speaker 5: That last game, but I don't think he was this game. Hilo,
to your point earlier, might be the most important player
off the bench.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 3: I think he's played.
Speaker 5: Really well the in conference play, he's played really well.
I feel like even that Utah game he only had
two points, but that bucket that he got off the
offensive rebound was huge. Yeah, huge, And so he's giving
you good minutes. He might be, I don't know, he
might be your best player off the bench up to
this point in the season.
Speaker 2: Just give you a couple of Mihilo stats as ap.
Andrew Peterson gave it to you. Mihalo has I think
been the best player for you off the bench, No doubt.
I bought it. Since conference play has has started, you
are this will be the fifth game in Mihilo scored
twenty two points. So if you divide that, it's about
five and a half points per game as well. But
the biggest factors, not that, is the rebounds that he's grabbing.
You know, he's grabbed at least three rebounds in every
single conference game, excuse me, minus the Utah game. He's
grabbed at least three rebounds in every single game, had
eight boards in the ASC game. And the combination of
him and Bido and hiding him off the bench, that
really is what's given it to b Billio. He had
three thousand that game against TCU, so not bad. Had
one was that travel So if you take that away
and if he knocks down at three, that's eleven. That's
eleven points. One turnover if that were not to happen,
And remember he had the block. And I think that's
the biggest thing is his defense in Arizona State game
three points eight big time boards, uh five defensive three
zero boards, that's what you like to see. To assist
two blocks, that's what you want to see. Did have
four turnovers and that's what happens when he does a
little bit too much dribbling, when he's able to keep
the turnovers down and when he just shoots it. That's
what it's gonna have to be. And you're gonna need
him tonight because this is a big time matchup Texas Tech.
You have not beaten him since you've entered the conference.
Don't know what to do. You have not under Mark
Pope ap you remember it they played Texas Tech down
there in Lubbock. I think they had a double digital
lead and halftime a p I think, I don't know,
I don't know. I can't remember for a seventeen. I'm
gonna go look it up, but I know it was
at least eleven. It was a big I think it was.
It might have been fifteen, but still you can't be
up that big down there in Lubbock. And then pop
Eyacac said I'm gonna have the career game of my life.
And man, he had thirty two. Yeah, I think it
was two of seven or two of eight in the
first half. And you kept him quiet and then he
woke up in the second half and says, all right,
I'm gonna go bonkers on you guys and pour down
hall Man made him play one on one and you know,
just made him piss down his leg and away eight
to say that. But that's just that's just what happened,
you know. It's just good players sometimes are able to
get you. And that's what happened. And you blew that.
And that wasn't the only lead. Remember, go back that season,
they also had a double hits of lead against Iowa
State in Hilton. Blew that lead too down the stretch.
So and then you fast forward till later in the
tournament they lost to Texas Tech. That was a little
bit of a closer game respectable, but you never felt
like BYU was gonna win that game. They didn't have
the best shooting night against Texas Tech. So I was like, okay,
I never felt like they were gonna beat him in
twenty twenty three. I thought in twenty twenty four at
the crib, I know what, was still early playing off
the bench. Excuse me in a starter roll, Yeah, twenty
twenty five, choose me, my apologies. I thought that that
was really what it was gonna be. They were gonna
get him then. But then Darien Williams, you saw why
he's playing bond out of n C State, came back
while they wanted them, while they were willing to give
them back. Good basketball player. So that was tough, you know,
to watch. But look, I mean, Texas Tech, you know,
made a good run in the tournament. Grant mcchasm is
a good coach, they have a good roster, uh, you know,
and but at the end of the day, you know,
you still got to get a win. And that's Owen
three guys, that's Owen three on one at the crib,
ap all one on the road, and then only to one.
Neutral Houston and Texas Tech are the only teams b
YU was not defeated yet in the Big Twelve since
joining the conference in basketball.
Speaker 5: And I just wanted to give us a little update.
We're up by sixteen on the road there.
Speaker 2: It is sixteen, so basically seventeen.
Speaker 3: Wow, blew that lead.
Speaker 5: You got outscored by twenty three points in the second
half and lost that game.
Speaker 2: She's goodness, gracious.
Speaker 5: And that I mean to me, that shows you what
a Mark Pope team would do, because they were a
very streaky team. If they got cold, they stayed cold.
It's I think Kevin Young's teams have been better in
that area. I don't remember a game where they just
can't find any answer at all offensively, defensively. That Alabama
game never found an answer. But to your point, Texas
Tech might be the one school in both revenue sports
that has given BYU the most trouble. We have one
win in six matchups, and you were playing.
Speaker 3: A third string quarterback.
Speaker 5: You relied on a ton of turnovers and got out
gained to that game to win that game. Yeah, and
and so Texas Tech, that oil money is giving us
a lot of trouble. And so this, honestly, this is
an interesting matchup because BYU comes into this game with
a big three.
Speaker 3: Texas Tech has a.
Speaker 5: Really big two yep that I think are going to
give by you some real problems tonight.
Speaker 2: J T.
Speaker 3: Toppin, you don't really have to say much.
Speaker 5: Twenty one point two points a game, eleven point one
rebounds per game, so players like Bido Kavaketa Mahilo are
going to be absolutely.
Speaker 3: Massive in securing rebounds.
Speaker 5: Absolutely And then the player that people don't talk about
when it comes to Texas Tech, who I think is
just as dangerous, Christian Anderson.
Speaker 2: He's a problem. The point guard.
Speaker 5: Nineteen point seven points a game on forty three point
one percent from.
Speaker 3: Three good stat line, he is a problem.
Speaker 5: And if by is not careful that one two punch
is gonna get him in a lot of trouble.
Speaker 3: You cannot afford afford to start slow here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this team likes Attorney over to and Christian Anderson.
He's a downhill point guard. He will shoot it, but
he likes to get to the basket. He likes contact,
he likes drawing fouls. One of the guys that shoots
the most retros on this team. But you know, we
heard from Robbie McCombs yesterday, Texas Tech not a big
free throw shooting team. Now will say you said big two.
That's the next story line. This rotation for Texas text
not deep, not really deep at all. They play about
six guys. And the one thing coaches, hey, Ap, you
know the is just like you know in football, if
you're starting to expose one guy or a guy gets
in foul trouble and you have to extend that rotation
the way they do not want. That really starts to
stress a coach and this roster and with the way
they're going now, I believe for games like this, rotations
they matter. When I say they don't matter, I mean, okay,
we're only gonna play six guys this game. That goes
out the window. Because when you have a team like
DYU that has Rob Right, that has Richie, that has AJ,
you're trying to throw everybody at him. You said, hey
tonight to a Goodnight that you only maybe played eighteen
minutes on the season, You're gonna play a lot tonight.
You're telling your entire roster be ready, stay ready because
this and this is what I was talking about AP
earlier in the week when I was saying Okay, yeah,
AJ and j T top and let's say they can't
sell each other out, Bright always bringing the hammerstead this too.
Let's say that rich the rob right and Chris Anderson
a Richie them they can't sle each other out. This
is where now the bench players come, the Texas Texts,
the Houston's, the Iowa was STA. The starters will do
starter things, same with Arizonas. But what will happen to
the bench Like this is where BYU's bench needs to
score the most points. It hasn't conference play tonight because
I don't believe you could just rely on the big
three to win you the game. Because Texas Tech can
also put up numbers themselves.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Texas Tech is not TCU, They're not Utah,
and they're not Kansas State.
Speaker 2: Or Arizona or Arizona State.
Speaker 5: BA has had a pretty welcoming schedule to open up
the Big Twelve. It's not been tough, and you've you've
had some games that didn't look pretty.
Speaker 3: And so I have a take here. You ready for this, Ready,
let's do it.
Speaker 5: The team that gets into trout into foul trouble first
is the team that's gonna lose. It's a good take
because neither team likes their bench very much at all.
Speaker 2: Bottom both I think are about in the bottom twenty.
I think Texas Tech is the worst actually in bench production.
Speaker 5: If you have a game like Last Game where you
find yourself in foul trouble, and we can talk about
the officiating of Last Game, not a popular not very
many popular decisions in that one. But if for whatever reason,
you end up in foul trouble like you did Last Game,
I don't think BYU's deep enough to beat Texas Tech
because Texas Tech is a different animal from what BYU
has faced this year. I understand you played Yukon, but
I think JT. Toppin is the best player BYU's played
this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, j T. Toppen is the best player. There's not
even a question. Even the guys on Yukon. I don't guys,
then they do, and they got three dudes that can
really give it to you, and they were doing it
to be at least in the first half before bo
you got going. But I still think JT. Toppin's better.
I think he's the best player gonna face by far
up until you meet Cole Pete and Darren Peterson in
that final week of January. Look, you're right it is JT.
This skill will destroy you, no doubt about it. He's
a phenomenal forward. Reminds you of Aha when he gets
to a little bit of a different but agent like
how he affects the game. AJ gets to the like
you gets to the middle of the floor. Likes to
shoot it. So expect Texas Tech to throw a lot
of bodies at him to keep him out of there.
Expect him to hedge at every single rebound expected on them,
blitz off the strong in the weak side. If you
thought that Utah was committing throwing bodies, Texas Tech, I
think will do the same thing. They're gonna get the
ball at AJ's hands. So look, may give you a
little bit of a teaser. I think the factor of
Rob Wright is really gonna be a big factor tonight.
And Rob, I think is gonna have to score not
just the double figures. Rob might have to get into
the twenty point range to really put pressure on TCU
And you have to shoot at a high clip from
three to space. As I said, TC excuse me, Texas
Tech out on the floor now, don't know where bou
specifically ranked that in the bench points. I know they're
in the bottom. I know Texas Tech is one of
the worst. You know, we heard that from Robbie Macombs
yesterday if you missed any of that interview. As always,
like I said now on the podcast, BYU is looking
to go five to ohero in conference play right now
four and oh a half a game behind Arizona and
then tie with Houston. Houston and BOU both sixteen to
one overall. The Texas Tech rate Raiders thirteen four overall,
three on one in conference play in Arizona, a crispy
eighteen and oh, we'll give you a couple of quick
quad game, give you update on the quad games and
where ba US at. Then we'll go to break and
then we'll welcome in the guests. Will welcome in Leaf
Twulan on the flip to discuss this matchup and get
his thoughts and it's opinion, this will be a big
time win for b AU. Gets this win, you're in
the driver's seating, especially with everything that's related to college basketball,
which ap can I can get to in the last segment,
give you guys some score updates b YU if they
win tonight, I think there'll be a top seven, if
not a team for sure after what's occurred. I'll give
you guys an update later, but b YU give you
the update four and one now in Quad one game,
some things that moved around. Four and O on Quad two,
three and on Quad three, and then five and on
Quad four. It's a tremendous quad record. You have to
love what you see there from BYU. Texas Tech also
has had a formidable quad game schedule a little bit
different though. They're two and four in quad games. Obviously
they got wins over number three Duke and obviously Colorado
on the road. That was an impressive win, hard to
win on the or in the Big twelve. And then
they're three and oh in Quad two games that be
wake for es LSU and then Oklahoma State at the Crib,
and then are five and oh in Quad three and
then three and oh in Quad four. So this is
truly a top fifteen matchup. Both teams will find out
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here on one O three nine and ninety eight three
esp and the fan Ronald the Three Man Weaver here
Andrew Peterson by my side. Teck you guys all the
way up until tip off. It is a doozy. It's
a great game. BYU Number eleven taking on number fifteen
Texas Tech down there in Lubbock. This is going to
be their toughest challenge on the road thus far. Texas
check opened up is two and a half. Just want
to tell everybody this is why you don't gamble, and
tell you don't do it. Do not gamble. Open up.
It's two and a half. Then it jumped three and
a half, went back down to two and a half early.
I've been watching all day, then back up to three
and a half. People are putting the money on the
Red Raiders. And you heard it from ap Boa. He's
got a one win over the Red Raiders in basketball,
in football combined. You want to throw soccer in at two.
It's only two wins, I think because women soccer beat them,
but then they tied with them. So oh man, the
Red Raiders, like you said that oil money, they got
some good athletes down there. We're gonna get into our
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to the Cougar Basketball Hotline and welcome in. We got
leaf to and he is a college basketball end listen
and he is the host of locked on Wadcatts. I've
been saying wrong. I wanted to get the right way
leap brother. How you doing Thanks for joining me today.
Speaker 6: Man, I'm doing well. It's a good day and lots
of good college hoops and we got the Australian Open
starting as well, so life's good.
Speaker 2: I won't go too far to tennis because you know
you and I will go off and the people will
get mad and I might have to do a special
show on Saturday. But I do agree the openness upon
us and I got notifications going left and right. I'll
be staying up late until one o'clock watching some of
those games. You most definitely believe I'm gonna be tuned
in to Rod Labor Arena. You bet. You bet your
bottom dollar. I am. But let's get back to the
basketball side of things. Big, big matchup tonight. This is
BYU's biggest toughest challenge on the road. Give me your
thoughts and your Scotter report on this matchup. BYU's only
beaten the Red r Oh. Yeah, that's right. They've never
been the Red Raiders since they've entered the conference in
basketball leaf.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the Red Raiders are a different team than they
have been in years past. This is a team that
is very top heavy. There's there's not much production outside
of their top two. And to me, this game boils
down to and the role players of Texas Techs score
to supplement what JT. Toppin through, the reigning Big twel
Player of the Year, the preseason Big twelve Player of
the Year, as well as Christian Anderson, who is in
my opinion, other than Darren Peterson is the best guard
in the Big twelve. So if you were to look
at this this matchup, everyone's gonna talk about AJ versus
Anderson and topping and throwing Richie and of Keb of course,
but to me, it's really can Byu limit the other guys,
the Donovan at Wells, the lawn Watts of the world,
And if they do so, I think they've got a
good chance to come away with a victory and a
looser one in Lubbock. And speaking of Lubbick, that was
not an easy place to play, not.
Speaker 2: An easy place to play. You probably remember the match
from a few years ago, you and I talked to
BYU under Mark Pope. It was forty eight to thirty two,
and I think Pop Isaacs was like two of seven
in the first half. He only had like eight points.
He was not playing well and then drops a career
high thirty two Burger eleven of nineteen win Bompers in
the second half outscored the Cougars fifty three to thirty
in the second half. Leave You've been to some pretty
crazy college atmosphere environments. What is it about Lubbock that
makes it so hard to win? Fifty three points in
a college basketball game, and the second half is utterly ridiculous.
Speaker 6: He's been in college basketball talent and recently, obviously the
money's been put into football and they made the playoff.
But this is a team that spent four million dollars
on JT. Toppin and then another two at least on
Christian Anderson, and then they had a notable guy walk away,
Gary and Williams, who hit a big shot that sent
him to the Elite eight. They were ahead against Florida.
So this is a team that came in top eight picks,
second in the Big twelve, behind Houston, just ahead of BYU.
And it's a team that I don't think that's complete
as that I would take them fit in the Big
twelve if I were answering right now. Toppin scores twenty
one a game, Anderson twenty a game, lawon WATS thirteen
lawn Watch scores in kind of bullyball, and I think
it doesn't work as well against Big twelve athletes. And
so the question is who can hit threes for Texas Tech?
As for BYU. The question as you've been talking about
to me and I'm sure to your listeners as well,
is depth. Dyu's depth will be tested because these athletes
have a better chance of guarding aj Debond, so they
have a better chance of closing out to Richie Saunders
and take making away to the three point lib where
he'shooting forty percent. So I think this is a game
where it's whose ancillary pieces performed better, because I think
the stars will kind of cancel each other out. I
think they're both Austin, Richie and Aja an amazing duo,
and if you look at Topen and Anderson, it's hard
to get much better than that. I think the ancillary
pieces will be the answer, and typically home team that
the other guys end up performing better in their home stadium.
So I think it's right to have a a line
that says Texas actually win, but ifin we're played on neutral,
I'd take BYU pretty comfortably.
Speaker 2: Actually, oh wow, neutral b YU pretty comfortable. I like
that that comment, those odds, but that's not the case.
It is down there a lubbic Leith. You and I
were at the b Yutah game. You got eyes on
this team. You've also been in another game you got
eyes on b YU, who off the bench from your
evaluation needs to perform and step up today because I'm
with you. I think all these great players cancel each
other out and that's not really going to be a factor.
Speaker 6: Well, the question really is how much Kevin Cata can
you get because JT. Top is a foul drawing machine,
so Kata will draw the natural assignment, but he can't
get into foul trouble. So is Abdullah a factor? Do
you see Hadem Boop defending Guys like that I think
are important, not in the stat sheet necessarily, but they
need to provide quality minutes against one of the best players,
if not the best player in the Big twelve and
JT Toffin and then I think you need some threes
from guys not named Richie Sunders. And I'm not going
to name the whole BYU roster, but there's a lot
of guys who's designated job. It's a knockdown threes that
are not named Richie Sonders. Right, like, you got a
lot of attention drawn by AJ So there's going to
be good shots. Teams will double, he'll spray the ball out.
You got to hit a few of those, and the
ancillary piece has got to perform on the road to
get a victory.
Speaker 2: What's going to be the downfall of BYU going into Lubbock.
You've watched it, You've seen it. What's gonna turn his head?
Is it going to be the ball getting laid in
a shot clock? Quord rob Right Dead sets I call it,
you know, dead possessions. You know when you yeah at
ten seconds so you have no action going hey, you
just expect to gotta go get you a bucket. I
don't feel like you can do that in basketball, but
especially against good teams like Texas Tech, and when you're
in a hostile environment.
Speaker 6: For sure, and Texas Tech's not as defensively stout as
they have in years past. So I want to point
that out that I think this game will be higher
scoring than the old Chris Beard and Norm Adams teams
that were very, very good defensively. For those those of
your fans who are thinking of them, this is a
more uppaced team. But to me, the key is really
who how well do what you can cancel.
Speaker 7: Out the other guys, the Donovant at Wells, the Luwan Wattson,
the Tyree Bryan's and Petties of the world, the four,
the guys three through six, in terms of most usage
rate for Texas Tech because if those guys hit threes.
Speaker 6: And supplement the forty points that you score from toppin
and that, it's really hard to beat Texas Tech on
the road. But if they don't shoot particularly well, it's
two guys trying to beat a team. And I think
Dyu's team is better than Texas Tech's. I'd give the
slide edge. Actually, that's my anger some of the fans.
I'd get a slide edge to Texas Tech's duo and
over even Ritchie and AJ, just because I think they
work better together and have more time to jail. I
think AJ is the second best player in the entire
country right now, and I think AJ needs a signature
game to go into Lubbock and win this game for BYU.
Like I said, this is on a neutral court. I
think BYU, though, I think they're a more complete basketball team.
Speaker 2: I'm went do on that. I buy a little bit
of that stock because of chemistry. When JT and Anderson
have been able to, you know, play together a little
bit longer and look and AJ and Ritchie are utilized different.
That's why I want to go get Rob right right.
You and I know that from playing and evaluating the game.
But yeah, I think that duo does play a little
bit better than this other duo, you know. And look,
they're used differently. And when a guy shoots a you know,
threes at a high volume and that's what you expect
can do, but he still can get downhill. But when
you have a dynamic point guard that can give you
twenty but is also giving you over seven assists, that
really is a problem for that can become a problem
for BYU. I'm excited to watch this because if you
get this leaf, if you look at the quad wins,
and you and I both know that's how these end
of the year seeds for March Madness are determined. They
don't have a signature win yet what would the signature
win do for BYU? A lot more still left on
the season, but this is the start I feel like
of how you can increase that resume.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you and I talked about this at the Utah
game where BAU won that game, and it was considered
taking care of business. This game is one that does
not hurt you if you lose, but absolutely helps you
if you win. If YU wins this game, they perpituate
themselves into having a Tier one quad one win, a
road win over a team that will be a top
four seed in March. I think BYU right now is
a three seed. I think their peak is really the
possibility of being a two seed. And if you win
against Texas Tech on the road, take care of business,
as we know they will at the Marriott Center against
many many teams. Of course, you welcome Arizona some other
very good teams. You may take a lump there, but
you're generally gonna take care of business at the Marriott.
I think BYU has a chance to be a two
seed if they win this type of game. And this
is the type of game them and Kansas teams like
that that I think are gettable because they have star power,
but they don't have the death. Teams like Arizona and
Houston are harder to beat because you don't know who's
gonna beat you on any given day, and they're more physical.
So I think this is a game where BYU actually
is not physically outmatched, not that they are often, but
I think they're the physically superior team and the team
with more death. Even though we talk about a weakness
for YU among a ton of strengths. A weakness I
would name would be death. And I think they're the
deeper team than Texas Tech.
Speaker 2: Definitely the deeper team. The Texas Tech only likes to
use six guys in their rotation. Maybe seven. Gonna find
out in just a few minutes as tip off as
shortly here. It will be six pm Mountain time, seven pm. Center.
Of those of you that are listening, are down there
and love it going to the game, please travel safe.
As Leef just mentioned, this is a Quad one matchup
BYU has a chance to get a good premiere Quad
one tier win over a good opponent Texas Tech. And
then you got you Todd home that you welcome in Arizona.
That game at home helps you. I don't know if
you're gonna win on the road down there. Don't know
if I could pick you. You got him last year and
Tommy Lloyd does not get beaten at home offen. You
got one last year. Don't know if you'll get it
this year. You get Houston at the Crib, you get
Lucky and Iowa State. This schedule is tough. It's hard
to win in the Big twelve on the road, but
you gotta get it done. Leave. Let's just get your
evaluation of the Big twelve. Iowa State, I am shocked
what happened. And when I mean shocked, not that they lost,
but when you drop two, you know what I mean.
Don't see that from top ten teams lose that quickly.
Michigan also lost this week, Vanderbilt above by you lost.
Just your analysis on the Big twelve and then college
basketball in general. We've had some pretty big upsets this week.
Speaker 6: For sure, and I think there's a lot of parody
this year in terms of just the Top twenty. Like
I don't think there's that much strength to like the
numbers five through fifteen this year. I think that was
will fluctuate a ton more than recent years. I think
as for the Big twelve, Arizona's the best team.
Speaker 2: Clearly.
Speaker 6: This is funny. Actually it's gonna sound like hindsight, but
I told you this when we were at UTA's. I
need you to vouch for me. I said, Houston will
be better than Iowa State, and then Iowa State the UYU,
and honestly, I think BYU is gonna finish higher than
I was State. Now. I watched both those games. I
was not impressed. I think they're overly reliant on spectacular
shooting that has the dwindle. Even though Milan Monschilovitch, if
you haven't seen him best shooter in the country right now,
I'd go BYU third. I was State fourth, Texas Tech fifth,
Kansas sixth because I think Kansas you just got to
have too much Darren Peterson health questions. But if they're healthy,
I think they're better than Texas Tech. That'd be my
top six.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a vouch forly. I remember we talked
about this way early and it was it was really
early because we were still in non conference. But I
like to take it where it was at YU been
at third, and it depends, right, if you maybe can
get Houston ethic, if you maybe can get Arizona, you
split with them. You don't lose those if you win
your game against Baylor, if you get these other games,
maybe your second. But hey, that b why you was
picked in that preseason of being you know, the top three.
So finishing third last year year tied for third quote unquote,
but you're really fourth because Arizona owned you know, the
tie break of common opponents between you. But if you
if you improve one spot with this roster and this talent,
you know you got a great opportunity of going to
the Big twelve tournament. Excuse me, better than what you are.
Anything can happen in the tournament. So we'll find out.
We got Leaf tooling on the line. My brother appreciate
him joining me today. He is a college basketball analyst
and the host of Locked on Wildcats. Leaf. We'll get
you out of here on a couple of things. But
before I asked you the final question, where can we
find all of what you do? How you do it?
What's the X account for all of our listeners? Because
By is gonna be taken on Arizona here in the
next couple weeks.
Speaker 6: Yeah, if you want to hear some previews from about
Arizona and BYU follow me on Twitter's just my name
Leaf too lean and my YouTube channel is Locked on Wildcats.
I do a daily show on Arizona and right now
it's all about basketball all the time. So there's tons
of good basketball content breaking down the Big Twelve. There's
actually a show doing the Big twelve preview from a
week ago where I talk about the YU a little
bit as well as do those previews standings. So you
can check their seats there as well as just tune
in and generally enjoy college basketball. There's plenty of good
college basketball content there.
Speaker 2: Definitely putting a good college basketball content there. I've listened
to it. It's good stuff. And look, you guys are
gonna be mad at me. You can be like Ron,
here's your boy. No, look, look, look, Arizona is the
best team in the country. They're the best team. It's
a Big twelve. And don't argue me because no one's
beating them until someone beats them. I don't want to
hear almost or whatever. That's the team to be. Last
year was Houston. I still believe overall, if you get
in the March Madnis Tournament, it is Houston. But Arizona
plays way more physical than I've seen them play in
a long time. I said they didn't last year. But
now with the depth that they have and how they
can get you on the perimeter, my goodness, this young
talent is amazing. And Copeda Lebrn what is bring Burry's man.
We'll talk about that in a few weeks. We'll have
you back on. But this Big twelve is no joke.
I'm gonna get you out of here on this though,
how do you see this one plant out? You gave
a lot of good Scout Scott of reports on both teams.
Does by you pick up that first win on the
road against a good conference opponent leaf.
Speaker 6: Man, I was waiting for that question. I couldn't make
up my mind. Really, I feel like BYU is the
better team. I don't love the matchup, to be honest,
I think Kevin Kada gets in foul trouble that concerns me.
I'll go Texas. I'll go Texas Tech. I'm gonna go
Texas Tech by two. So right right about what the
spread is? High scoring game, I'll go like eighty four
eighty two. If I had to pick somewhere around there.
Speaker 2: Hey, look, BYU has lost a close game before Quad
Wan matchup by two. Fans are not gonna like that
number three. You lost eighty six eighty four. That final
possession look like you and I talked about. And this
is no criticism, but I've seen it, and Kevin's done
a good job of putting the ball in AJ's hands.
But if the ball ends up in Rob's hands, leave
you and I know what happened last time when Rob
had the ball that late in the game. In the
Yukon game, the turnover came when you do a little
bit too much dribbling.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's the thing. I think what Bau has
gotten better at is playing through AJ. But today you
got to hit some shots when teams double and throw
different coverages someone other and Richie's got to hit some
open threes that AJ can create. So that's my concern.
I think home team usually gets better performances that role players,
and that is why I'm banking with Texas Tech, even
though I'm rooting for BYU on this one.
Speaker 2: Look, I got a text message Ron Kansas State is
a good opponent. Yes it's a quad to one, but
you don't understand. No one's looking at the quad two wins. Guys.
You want to see the quad ones. That's what you're one,
not the quad twos are bad. You're supposed to handle business,
as Leaf said, that is a handle business type game.
Quad one wins, stretch and determined. Like you already mentioned,
they lock you in as that for sure two seed
in the NCAA tournament. Leaf, brother, I appreciate your time today.
I'm gonna have you back on in a few weeks
because I need all the updates on this Arizona need
hope because the Mayor Out Center is a tough place
to play. But man, is this Arizona State team, excuse
not Arizona Arizona team really good. And I'm very frustrated
with Tommy Lloyd because I had them pick top four
and he is number one and he is proven me
wrong and I have an aft crow.
Speaker 6: As of right now, they're really good. I'll be happy
to join you and break down that game because I'll
be I'll be out to marry out for that one.
I can't wait for it.
Speaker 2: Yep, we definitely both will be kay, brother, you travel
State man, and definitely enjoy some some tennis, man, enjoy
some Australian Open really quick. I'm gonna let you give
the plug. You know it's basketball, Pep Matt, give me
a does does yonick center? Does he do it? Is?
Does Carlito get that first Aussie Open?
Speaker 6: I got Carlos. I'll never pick against Carlos, so I
Carlos is the answer.
Speaker 2: Carlos is the answer. All I gotta say is guy
was up a break match point and in a fifth
set of a guy running a guy in at ten
point tie break. I was up Pacific time and I
was just in shock of what That's all. I gotta say,
great players always show up when it matters most, and
Carlito definitely did so I'm gonna be watching. Thanks for
your time today, leave.
Speaker 6: Of course anytime.
Speaker 2: That was Leaf too, and he's the host of Locked
on Walcats and a college basketball analyst. Love the Breakdown
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You can catch the breakdown, but tip off schedule for
six pm mounts of Time, seven pm Central. It's in Lubbock, guys,
Lubbick at the United Supermarkets are in a tough place
to play. Excuse me. Last time Bou went, they were
up sixty and a half number twenty BOU at the
time over number twenty five Texas Tech. They outscored in
forty at to thirty two in the first half. You
know what happened in the second. They got beat down,
they got belt to booty, they got outscored fifty two
to thirty, lost by eight. It's crazy. Can't do that.
Just had Leaf Tulan on the line at College of
Basketball Analysts and the host of Locked on Wildcats. He
predicts that this game is gonna be in the eighties,
and I would agree. I think this is gonna be
a high scoring game. Bo plays better defense than Texas Tech,
but Texas Tech is not as formidable or not. They
don't have the big shot blocking. JT. Topping and Christian
Anderson kind of do it not kind of they do
it all for Texas Tech and then the other guys
if they hit shots. That's the biggest thing. He don't
have to do with pop Isaacs. But BAU is better defensively.
I am excited the matchup I'm looking forward to tonight.
I don't need to see AJ and JT switch and
keble I know that's gonna happen ap. The matchup I'm
excited to see is Christian Anderson and Knard Davis Junior.
That's what I'm excited to see because something that maybe
didn't get brought up. I think that by You can
win this game like they did against Kansas State with
the defensive effort of what they happen. I don't think
they're gonna shoot that bad. But to turn it over
to you, I'm liking that matchup because if you played
perimeter defense the way you did against Kansas State and
you don't let them get off threes and you just
make it a two man game, which Kevin Young is
really good making your weakness showcase, then BYU has a
really good chance of coming out victorious tonight.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think I think it's pretty similar for both teams.
You just shut shut down the big scores. Like that's
easier said than done, very easier said than done. But
for BYU, shutting down Christian Anderson would be huge and
Canard Davis is the best defender to do it.
Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 5: My question is does BYU have someone that we feel
confident in matching up against J. T.
Speaker 3: Topping Because I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 5: It could be Kaiba, but if Keba gets in foul trouble,
who do you stick on?
Speaker 3: JT. Top?
Speaker 5: And I don't know that I trust really anyone other
than Kiba to be that man.
Speaker 2: It's a good point. I'm thinking about what you said
and you just have to you wonder like and this
is the hard part, right, Is aj gonna take the
responsibility of JT? Or is he gonna take Lawan Watts
like that? That's what you're wondering. You know what's on
the scatter report. Is he gonna try to take out
Lawan a six foot six, you know, a forward from Fresno,
California who's averaging six and thirteen points, you know, six
and a half.
Speaker 4: Boy?
Speaker 2: Is he gonna take that guy? Is he gonna take
that guy who dishes out three assists? I would have
to think yes. And you let Cable work because uh,
you know that's whe they're gonna go. They're gonna go
Top and Anderson, Watts at Well and Petty like that's
gonna be you know, their their lineup. So is that
what you do? You let Cable work? But JT's footwork
is so good and he's got a quick first step.
Keba gets in foul trouble, you I don't want him
hand checking. I know you're gonna bring in Beato. Is
this a game where you know you're bringing hottiem like
Mahilo space and that's why to Leif's point about the bench,
you need Mahilo to hit threes tonight. You need to
stress Texas Tech because in transition, if you're not hitting
threes and they're just gonna keep attacking KEB and these
other matchups. But if you make them play defense and
you're hitting threes, that slows them now and it makes
them now come up the floor, slow play and a
half court set, which is not what Tech. That's not
what Texas Tech really wants to do.
Speaker 5: No, one hundred percent, you can't. If you're gonna have
a player off the bench come in the game, they
have to make an impact. You can't have these games
like we've had a few times this year where someone
like Alexi Kostitch or Tyler Moruss comes in and they
go oh for two or oh for three from the field.
You just can't have a bench player come in and
give you empty minutes. And so for me, I I
I'm thinking about what you said about maybe Aj guarding
j T Toppin, and if he does that, he's going
to have to have his best defensive game of his career.
We can't have any of these moments where you look
at AJ and go and wonder, are you giving one
hundred percent on defense? You're you're from Chicago, so I
think you'll agree for me with me on this, Mike.
I believe Michael Jordan is the goat, and that's because
he gave one hundred effort on defense as well as offense.
If AJ is going to take over a game, I
want him to go Michael Jordan mode Tye.
Speaker 3: He's not Michael Jordan.
Speaker 5: We're not gonna say that, but I want him to
get in that mindset of you have to take over
a game defensively as well as offensively, because you've got
two other guys that can help you offensively, but defensively,
I don't know outside of KBA, is there anyone outside
AJ that's really gonna do much for JT.
Speaker 2: It's a good question. That's a very good question. And
uh it's and look, it's gonna be tough, right because
you're gonna challenge AJ because he depends. If Lawn Watson
is not hitting threes, then maybe you can do that.
But again, they have a six man rotation. They're not
gonna be rotating a lot. They're gonna work through those
two guys, and his work's in Billy's favor. Teams got
tired last year against Bayu and they able to exploit that.
You can exploit that and pushing transition, you're gonna get them.
Then you get them in foul trouble. Oh boy boy,
make them take threes. They shoot thirty seven point eight
percent from the three, and that some of those numbers
are going to be different because some guys are not
are have only played like six games. But if you
look at it like JT does not shoot well from three,
Lawanho's thirty four not the best. So you don't want
Anderson and you don't want at well hitting shots. You
keep that and then you get guys like Brian and
the rest of these guys to shoot. Those guys are
under thirty five percent, under thirty percent from three, You
do that, that really makes it tough. So but then
we're in tune for a good one tonight. This is
the eighth all time meeting between the two schools and
second trip down to love it. Guys. Let's give our
core prediction apill have you go really quickly and then
I'll bring up the caboose.
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna go a little lower scoring than our
guest gave. I still think it's relatively high scoring. I'm
gonna give BYU the wine seventy seven to seventy four,
and I think the key is Rob Wright's three point shooting.
Speaker 2: Ah. I like that. I'm gonna take it as well.
I'm going seventy four to seventy b YU. I think
BOE picks up the big time or old victory tonight.
I think they get it that Premier quad one when
Kevin Young win, his back is against the wall, He's
done nothing but show up and shot. I think they
get it. I think they're able to get Texas Tech
the Red Raiders. They avenge that BOI gets its first
win over Texas Tech, and they do it in the
lone Star State, no doubt about it. And I think
you get bench production tonight, no doubt about it. That
is my score prediction and keys to the game, guys,
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But then again, this is basketball. You never know. Remember
tip off is in four minutes to six pm mounth
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