WEBVTT 1 00:00:16.920 --> 00:00:20.480 And we are back with another edition of the Federalist 2 00:00:20.559 --> 00:00:24.079 Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, Senior Elections correspondent at the 3 00:00:24.120 --> 00:00:28.879 Federalist and your experience Shirpa on today's quest for Knowledge. 4 00:00:29.199 --> 00:00:31.359 As always, you can email the show at radio at 5 00:00:31.359 --> 00:00:35.320 the Federalist dot com, follow us on x at fbr LST, 6 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:38.920 make sure to subscribe wherever you download your podcast, and 7 00:00:39.039 --> 00:00:42.640 of course to the premium version of our website as well. 8 00:00:43.159 --> 00:00:46.759 Our guest today is Harry Phones, Department of Homeland Security 9 00:00:47.039 --> 00:00:51.799 Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs, on the ever 10 00:00:51.880 --> 00:00:57.960 increasing peril of being an ice agent in sanctuary cities. Harry, 11 00:00:57.960 --> 00:00:59.679 thank you so much for joining us in this edition 12 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:00.920 of the Realist Radio Hour. 13 00:01:01.960 --> 00:01:03.719 Of course, Matt happy to join you. Well. 14 00:01:03.759 --> 00:01:09.400 Thank you. I know you've been extremely, extremely busy. Give 15 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:13.079 us the latest now on what is happening in Minneapolis 16 00:01:13.719 --> 00:01:21.040 after last week when a woman there, Renee Good, looks 17 00:01:21.040 --> 00:01:25.599 to according to video, appears to have struck an ice 18 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:32.719 officer with her vehicle. The ice officer then, in a 19 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:37.719 move to protect himself, fired his weapon and fatally shot 20 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:41.640 Miss Good. Of course, a lot has happened since then. 21 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:44.000 If you wouldn't mind. It is an update on first 22 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:46.079 and foremost where all of that stands today. 23 00:01:47.079 --> 00:01:48.840 No, of course, Well, you know we all saw on 24 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:52.280 Friday that new video that was released showing the view 25 00:01:52.319 --> 00:01:55.359 from the officers perspective. I think that really cleared up 26 00:01:55.480 --> 00:01:59.760 a lot of the misconceptions that were about this. You know, 27 00:01:59.799 --> 00:02:03.239 we been extremely clear that we are supporting our officers, 28 00:02:03.719 --> 00:02:05.599 and I think that video does a lot of justice 29 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:10.159 that this individual followed as training. You know, anybody else 30 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:14.240 in that situation you would have fear for your life 31 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:18.439 looking at Since then, one of the big things the 32 00:02:18.479 --> 00:02:21.879 Secretary was actually in Minneapolis that night. She said the 33 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:24.360 same thing is this is not going to deter us 34 00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:28.280 from doing our job. And we've had officers deployed there 35 00:02:29.039 --> 00:02:32.520 since this. They are making arrests, they're enforcing the laws 36 00:02:32.520 --> 00:02:36.159 in this nation. They are unfortunately again you've seen the 37 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:38.879 videos that have been coming out of Minneapolis since then, 38 00:02:39.719 --> 00:02:43.439 they are not facing support. They are facing attacks against them. 39 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:46.639 Almost every day there's been some type of an assault 40 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:50.800 on federal officers. We're still seeing vehicles being used against officers. 41 00:02:51.199 --> 00:02:55.560 Last night we saw fireworks being launched against officers. This 42 00:02:55.639 --> 00:02:59.240 is not this is this is a very hostile situation, 43 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:02.759 and it's feeds into all the attacks that our officers 44 00:03:02.759 --> 00:03:07.159 are facing, and it's just it is very despicable. It's 45 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:10.680 sad to see this because again, their core mission is 46 00:03:10.719 --> 00:03:14.479 they are trying to make American community safer. They're enforcing 47 00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:16.719 laws in this nation. They're getting the worst and the 48 00:03:16.719 --> 00:03:21.000 worst out of our out of our communities, and that's 49 00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:23.240 something you know, especially from the Department. We're trying to 50 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:26.680 highlight a lot. You know, we're finding murders, rapist, gang members. 51 00:03:26.840 --> 00:03:28.800 They're doing this cross country, but we are continuing to 52 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:30.680 do that mission in Minneapolis, and we are not going 53 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:31.319 to be deterred. 54 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:34.400 Yeah, Harry, I wrote a piece for the Federalists this 55 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:39.479 week and it begins this way, calling all rational Americans, 56 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:42.400 I mean, no matter what your view is on policy, 57 00:03:42.639 --> 00:03:46.960 take a look at the videos. Understand what is happening here. 58 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:51.919 Here are the thieves, child rapist and murderers. The left 59 00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:56.280 latest false martyr was fighting for Renee Good, the thirty 60 00:03:56.360 --> 00:03:59.599 seven year old radical fatally shot last week by the 61 00:03:59.599 --> 00:04:03.039 Immigrate and Customs Enforcement agent she appears to have struck 62 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:06.639 with her SUV was part of a leftist resistance movement 63 00:04:06.719 --> 00:04:10.639 that tried to stop ICE from arresting criminal illegal immigrants 64 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:16.480 like Hernan Cortes Valencia, the Mexican foreign national who had 65 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:20.600 a final order of removal dating back more than nine years, 66 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:25.480 has been convicted of sexual assault against a child, sexual assault, 67 00:04:25.519 --> 00:04:29.800 carnal abuse, and four DUIs according to DHS. And the 68 00:04:29.879 --> 00:04:34.360 list of these awful, awful people go on and on. 69 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:40.279 That ultimately, to those of us watching here and wondering 70 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:44.879 why all of these massive and violent protester going on 71 00:04:44.879 --> 00:04:48.040 in Minneapolis and elsewhere, that's who they're trying to protect, 72 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:51.040 it appears to us, is that the case as you 73 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:51.480 see it. 74 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:53.480 I mean that's how I see it. I think that 75 00:04:53.560 --> 00:04:55.879 this is a two part is. One is you're seeing 76 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:58.800 the tactics that are being used against the officers, so 77 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:04.800 you obviously have the impeding our operations. You know, anybody, 78 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:07.480 every child, if you talk to them, is you know, 79 00:05:07.519 --> 00:05:09.560 should you be trying to stop an officers or trying 80 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:12.639 to arrest a criminal. A child would be able to 81 00:05:12.680 --> 00:05:15.920 tell you no, that's something that you shouldn't do. You know, 82 00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:18.600 they're they're threatening. Our agents are facing in eight thousand 83 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:21.759 percent in death threats. The assault rate is obviously up 84 00:05:21.800 --> 00:05:25.360 that we always talked about is thirteen hundred percent increase 85 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:29.439 in assaults. There's been a three two hundred percent increase 86 00:05:29.519 --> 00:05:33.120 in vehicle attacks. And the mission our officers are trying 87 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:35.480 to do is what you just said. We're trying to 88 00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:39.360 get criminal, bad guys off of the street who they're defending. 89 00:05:39.959 --> 00:05:42.639 You know, we just sent out earlier today some of 90 00:05:42.639 --> 00:05:46.879 the folks that we've arrested in Minneapolish we got an 91 00:05:47.040 --> 00:05:51.800 armed robbery of a business, uh in decent exposure, selling meth, 92 00:05:52.240 --> 00:05:58.399 selling cocaine, criminal sexual conduct. These are the people that 93 00:05:58.439 --> 00:06:01.279 they're trying to prevent us from getting out there. And 94 00:06:01.319 --> 00:06:04.000 I just think it's totally ridiculous that if you were 95 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:07.199 to ask, you said, it's the call for sanity and 96 00:06:07.240 --> 00:06:09.839 the call to reason is if you were to ask 97 00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:13.319 anybody is would you want to be helping or hindering 98 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:18.040 the officers getting these people off the streets? Most people 99 00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:20.959 should say I would want those people out of my community. 100 00:06:21.399 --> 00:06:24.600 M Yeah, and understandably. So take a look at their 101 00:06:24.680 --> 00:06:28.360 their long and violent criminal rap sheets. There these are, 102 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:34.360 as we said, killers, rapist, child molesters. It's just it's amazing. 103 00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:41.839 Are you surprised by any of this given the years 104 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:48.759 of folks like Governor Tim Walls describing ICE agents as 105 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:51.879 Trump's new Gestapo. 106 00:06:52.319 --> 00:06:54.480 You know, and we have been calling for this the 107 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:57.519 entire time. So there's there's two parts with this. Is 108 00:06:57.560 --> 00:07:01.000 it's the rhetoric you're seeing out of these left point politicians. 109 00:07:03.079 --> 00:07:05.800 They're spearing our officers. You know, if you are just 110 00:07:05.839 --> 00:07:10.920 being constantly everything, everything, every day, our officers are being 111 00:07:10.920 --> 00:07:13.839 compared to the Nazisans of the Gestapo, which is just wrong. 112 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:17.959 That should be that should be stopped. Like I mean, 113 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:20.000 I graduated with a history degree, Like these guys do 114 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:23.720 not know their history clearly, right, and that just is upsetting. 115 00:07:24.759 --> 00:07:27.120 But the other part is is these guys are going 116 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:29.680 into like the reason we are in Minneapolis is because 117 00:07:29.959 --> 00:07:33.920 these politicians aren't doing their job. We're having to go 118 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:37.519 in because they're sanctuary jurisdictions and they don't want to 119 00:07:37.560 --> 00:07:41.199 work with law enforcement. These officers are putting their lives 120 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:43.560 on the line to clean up these communities that have 121 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:46.079 literally made the laws that are forcing them to go 122 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:49.600 into it. You know, somebody I want to quote is 123 00:07:49.920 --> 00:07:53.199 you know with Chief Bavino with Border Patrol is out 124 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:56.079 of Minneapolis, and he has said this really best. He 125 00:07:56.199 --> 00:08:00.120 just was in an operation in New Orleans and they're 126 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:02.920 was one assault because they were able to work with 127 00:08:02.959 --> 00:08:08.120 the local police departments. We've already seen more than I 128 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:12.120 believe it's two dozen assaults in a week on officers, 129 00:08:12.560 --> 00:08:15.319 and it's because they're not able to actually work with it. 130 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:18.720 We want to work with state and local governments. We 131 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:20.800 have a great you know, in the midst of all 132 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:22.839 of all that is going on, I also like to 133 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:25.639 highlight the good. We have a robust program, it's called 134 00:08:25.680 --> 00:08:28.600 the two eighty seven G program where we are working 135 00:08:29.000 --> 00:08:33.480 with state and state and local jurisdictions across the country, 136 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:37.240 which is, hey, a guy goes into a local jail, 137 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:40.519 they do an immigration search, so hey, we've got a criminal. 138 00:08:40.759 --> 00:08:42.919 They let us know and we're able to take care 139 00:08:42.919 --> 00:08:45.039 of it so that that person is not released back 140 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:49.919 into the community. And it's because of these sanctuary policies 141 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:52.279 that we can't do that in a place like Minneapolis, 142 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:55.320 so we have to send officers in there to again 143 00:08:55.960 --> 00:08:57.080 enforce the laws of the nation. 144 00:08:58.919 --> 00:09:03.840 So what do you think of the sort of allegations 145 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:08.279 you're hearing from the likes of Tim walls, and do 146 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:12.399 you think that maybe he has a vested interest in 147 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:17.639 his constituents in Minnesota and the rest of the country 148 00:09:17.639 --> 00:09:23.240 talking about something other than the massive Somali welfare fraud 149 00:09:23.320 --> 00:09:25.960 scandal in Minnesota right now, Well. 150 00:09:25.799 --> 00:09:27.399 I think we've all seen a lot of the facts 151 00:09:27.399 --> 00:09:30.080 having to do with this fraud scandal, and you know, 152 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:31.559 I kind of want to leave that there. Each a 153 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:34.360 SI which is under us is doing investigations. One want 154 00:09:34.360 --> 00:09:38.399 to get ahead of it. What we're seeing certainly raises 155 00:09:38.440 --> 00:09:41.159 my eyebrows. But I think that there is this this 156 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:47.279 is the consequences of actions has happened, which is that, Hey, 157 00:09:47.639 --> 00:09:50.519 there's all this rage of we're going to say we 158 00:09:50.600 --> 00:09:54.799 want sanctuary jurisdictions. We're going to do this without any consequence, 159 00:09:55.559 --> 00:09:57.399 it doesn't cost anything. We're just going to appeal to 160 00:09:57.440 --> 00:09:59.559 this rhetoric. We're going to appeal to to you know, 161 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:03.559 these really radical ideas of we're just not going to 162 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:06.759 enforce the laws of this nation, and that is we're 163 00:10:06.759 --> 00:10:08.879 not letting that stand. We are going to enforce the 164 00:10:08.919 --> 00:10:11.159 laws of this nation, and so that's forcing us to 165 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:16.279 come in. And this is a consequence of again, their actions. 166 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:17.840 So we're going in there and doing that. You know, 167 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:20.159 we are going to go in and get criminal legals 168 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:22.639 out of there. I kind of think it's probably embarrassing 169 00:10:23.039 --> 00:10:25.440 when it is, Hey, these guys that you are trying 170 00:10:25.480 --> 00:10:28.200 to demonize are having to go in and clean up 171 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:30.320 your community, you know. I think that that's the really 172 00:10:30.320 --> 00:10:33.720 big thing. Again, I always want to stress is we 173 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:35.279 don't have to do this in a lot of other 174 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:38.320 parts of the country because people are actually working with us, 175 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:41.080 and that's what law enforcement is about. Here, we have 176 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:43.360 to because they aren't working with us. 177 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:47.559 Like a halfway decent attorney, I asked some questions. I 178 00:10:47.600 --> 00:10:49.720 know the answers to, but what do you think would 179 00:10:49.759 --> 00:10:54.039 have been the response from the politicians in Minnesota, the 180 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:59.960 leftist politicians across the country and Minnesota and Minneapolis resident 181 00:11:00.159 --> 00:11:04.159 in general had it been the other way around, had 182 00:11:04.200 --> 00:11:12.000 Missed Good killed the ice officer with her vehicle, Well, I. 183 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:13.960 Don't want to get too much into hypothetical, but I 184 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:16.799 hope they would have condemned it. And that's something that again, 185 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:20.200 the rhetoric is only encouraging action against our officers. It 186 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:22.440 would be really nice to see our leaders stand up 187 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:26.720 and say, hey, let's not demonize these brave men and 188 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:29.080 women who are putting their lives on the line to 189 00:11:29.120 --> 00:11:32.120 do this. We should be thanking them. Friday was Law 190 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:35.759 Enforcement Appreciation Day. I don't think that we're getting a 191 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:38.320 lot of thanks from the far left politicians that are 192 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:39.200 spreading this kind. 193 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:41.519 Of rhetoric, No, no doubt about that. And there's a 194 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:44.200 there's a great video out there. I'm not sure if 195 00:11:44.240 --> 00:11:46.879 you've seen it, Harry, but it really drives I think 196 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:51.080 this whole point home. There's a gentleman in I believe 197 00:11:51.120 --> 00:11:54.679 it's in Minneapolis. He walks up to some ice agents 198 00:11:54.679 --> 00:11:59.279 and he says, folks, listen, I'm not choosing sides here, 199 00:11:59.320 --> 00:12:01.559 but I know you have a very difficult job. I 200 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:03.480 want to pray over you, and I want to I 201 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:06.519 want to pray that that you conduct your mission and 202 00:12:06.559 --> 00:12:10.039 you're you're able to be safe and effectively come home 203 00:12:10.919 --> 00:12:14.960 to your families, because that's really what it is. At 204 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:15.720 the end of the day. 205 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:17.960 I want to say thank you for what you're doing. 206 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:20.159 All the suburb or prank for everybody, but. 207 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:23.279 Also for you, and just thank you. It's it's not easy. 208 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:26.720 We're not taking sides in any of this, but we 209 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:28.879 know that it has not been easy for you guys. 210 00:12:29.000 --> 00:12:32.120 He's your protection, the blessed your conversation to thank you 211 00:12:32.159 --> 00:12:35.000 for his confidence. They'll just blessed him and Ben say 212 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:37.399 the Lord betrayed for a journey that there would be 213 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:41.320 loved being the people in the offices in Jesus. 214 00:12:42.600 --> 00:12:45.720 What a stark contrast that is, Harry, to the sort 215 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:48.919 of vitriol we're seeing on the streets of Minneapolis by 216 00:12:49.559 --> 00:12:55.159 a certain percentage of citizens of this country. Yeah. 217 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:57.679 I haven't seen that exact video, but I think that 218 00:12:57.799 --> 00:13:00.399 that sums it up, is that, you know, we should 219 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:02.639 be praying for these officers. I do every day, and 220 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:05.159 again I'm very thankful when I get to talk to them, 221 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:07.679 and we would hope that people would be thanking them 222 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:12.639 for what they're doing. It shouldn't be this demonization. What 223 00:13:12.840 --> 00:13:20.000 people forget is that these officers are husbands, wives, brothers, sisters, 224 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:23.320 They have families. They are waking up every day and 225 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:26.120 doing the job that they signed up to do, and 226 00:13:26.200 --> 00:13:28.759 it's for a noble purpose, which is to enforce the 227 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:31.600 laws of the nation. And I keep breaking back to 228 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:35.360 that because you hear this that they're they're racist, they're 229 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:38.039 doing these things just because of this or that. It's no. 230 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:42.519 We are a nation of laws. They're enforcing it. They 231 00:13:42.639 --> 00:13:44.639 signed up to do this. I'm sure there are a 232 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:46.879 lot easier jobs out there than what they're having to 233 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:49.720 do every day that they could be doing. But instead 234 00:13:50.039 --> 00:13:53.159 they're waking up, they're doing what's right, They're doing their job, 235 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:55.679 and I think that that's them. Again, I haven't seen 236 00:13:55.720 --> 00:13:58.879 the video. That's a sentiment that should be out there 237 00:13:58.960 --> 00:14:02.039 more versus the rhetoric that we see about these guys 238 00:14:03.320 --> 00:14:06.720 and guys and women. And just at the first response 239 00:14:06.799 --> 00:14:09.720 by to many people ish you're a Nazi. 240 00:14:10.679 --> 00:14:14.080 Right, that's their first response to all of this. And 241 00:14:14.559 --> 00:14:17.720 as you said before, know your history first and foremost. 242 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:24.320 Our federalist radio hour listeners may be familiar with this, 243 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:31.279 perhaps not. But the ice officer involved was in a 244 00:14:31.440 --> 00:14:36.519 similar situation, I believe, back in June in a suburb 245 00:14:36.559 --> 00:14:41.639 of Minneapolis, where a criminal illegal immigrant ICE was trying 246 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:48.440 to apprehend, ran over him and dragged him in the 247 00:14:48.559 --> 00:14:53.919 vehicle for I believe fifty yards according to the DHS report, 248 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:58.360 What must have gone through this gentleman's mind as he 249 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:03.159 was facing what seemed to him and to many of us, 250 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:04.360 a clear and present danger. 251 00:15:06.080 --> 00:15:09.039 Yeah. I mean again, that video that came out on Friday, 252 00:15:09.200 --> 00:15:12.639 that's from the officer's perspective is night and day. Everybody 253 00:15:12.639 --> 00:15:15.440 I've talked to and I go, what would you have 254 00:15:15.559 --> 00:15:19.799 done in that situation? You can see that now it's 255 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:22.159 it's light and day. It takes away so much of 256 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:26.159 the issis that we're made against the officer the only 257 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:28.960 and I can only imagine, you know, all the things 258 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:30.919 that we're seeing, I mean, the amount of death threats 259 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:34.039 he's getting, and again it's not just him, it's all 260 00:15:34.080 --> 00:15:37.519 of our officers. A six I'm sorry, it's an eight 261 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:43.159 thousand percent increase in death threats wow against officers, staggering. 262 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:47.039 The amount of assaults every day. When you're waking up 263 00:15:47.080 --> 00:15:49.440 to go do your job and you've got that high 264 00:15:49.440 --> 00:15:51.600 of a percentage that you're going to interact with somebody 265 00:15:51.639 --> 00:15:53.480 who's going to try to assault you while you're doing 266 00:15:53.559 --> 00:15:57.879 your job, I can only imagine. I mean, it has 267 00:15:57.960 --> 00:16:01.039 toway heavy. But these guys are men and women are 268 00:16:01.120 --> 00:16:03.159 going out there every day and doing doing what they're 269 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:06.519 supposed to. And again we should be thanking them because 270 00:16:06.559 --> 00:16:09.679 we see the fruits of their labor, which is all 271 00:16:09.799 --> 00:16:13.600 these criminals that are going out. You know one thing 272 00:16:13.600 --> 00:16:15.120 I'd like to highlight. Obviously, we put out a lot 273 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:17.840 of press releases. We have a website. We actually just 274 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:21.320 added five thousand new criminal legal aliens to it yesterday. 275 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:26.399 It's wow dot DHS dot gov. Wow dot DHS dot gov. 276 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:29.240 And we've created a database where you can go in, 277 00:16:29.879 --> 00:16:32.440 put your state in, and you can see just some 278 00:16:32.840 --> 00:16:34.840 And this is not not a full database. It's just 279 00:16:35.000 --> 00:16:38.200 some of the criminals that we have we have gotten 280 00:16:38.279 --> 00:16:40.960 under this administration. And you look at all them and 281 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:43.200 you would think, man, I'd like to thank the person 282 00:16:43.240 --> 00:16:45.879 who got that person out of my state. I don't 283 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:47.720 know how you can look at it and go, yeah, 284 00:16:47.840 --> 00:16:49.559 I think we probably should have let it. Just like 285 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:52.240 you said, we probably should have not allow a murder 286 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:55.600 or a rapist to just keep remaining in a community. 287 00:16:56.679 --> 00:16:59.519 Our guest today on this edition of The Federalist Radio Hours, 288 00:16:59.559 --> 00:17:04.200 Harry Owns, Department of Homeland Security Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary 289 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:08.359 for Public Affairs, talking about the increasing peril of being 290 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:13.160 an ICE agent in sanctuary cities, and certainly Harry's laid 291 00:17:13.200 --> 00:17:15.799 out the case for it. I've seen the website. It's 292 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:19.599 remarkable and obviously we at the Federalists have been covering 293 00:17:20.079 --> 00:17:25.279 the stories of these very violent criminal illegal immagates, again 294 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:31.559 not just illegal immigrants, but individuals who have committed great 295 00:17:31.799 --> 00:17:38.839 offenses against individuals and society, and it just again it 296 00:17:39.079 --> 00:17:44.039 makes you wonder as it relates to Minneapolis though, and 297 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:47.759 some of the demonstrations we've seen obviously that the situation 298 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:52.440 in Portland comes to mind, if you could give us 299 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:57.680 an update on what went down in Portland, because even 300 00:17:57.759 --> 00:18:02.839 the police chief there, through tears, oddly enough, had to 301 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:08.039 acknowledge the fact that the two individuals who were shot 302 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:15.720 the other day in Portland were also violent criminal illegal 303 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:19.319 immigrants and they were involved in a very violent gang. 304 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:23.559 I was going to say, not just criminals, members of TDA, 305 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:30.519 which is a terrorist organization, terrible gang, right, kidnapping, drugs, murder. 306 00:18:32.119 --> 00:18:35.519 This is not people, and I think that that's pretty obvious. 307 00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:39.880 So you know, the quick recap of that is Thursday nights, 308 00:18:39.920 --> 00:18:42.960 so Border Patrol is in Portland as part of our 309 00:18:43.000 --> 00:18:48.559 operations there, they were doing a targeted immigration enforcement against 310 00:18:48.599 --> 00:18:52.119 a known member of TDA as well as an associate 311 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:55.640 of TDA who's been involved in a prostitution ring there, 312 00:18:56.519 --> 00:18:59.920 as well as a prior shooting in Portland earlier in 313 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:03.079 the summer. As they went to make the arrest in 314 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:07.920 the car, the driver, again TDA member, decided to weaponize 315 00:19:07.960 --> 00:19:13.359 it and drive at the officer, fired shots defensively. They 316 00:19:13.480 --> 00:19:17.839 later found the individual found the car. Those individuals, the 317 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:22.759 drivers currently an FBI custody. The passenger is in ICE 318 00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:27.039 custody now pending removal. There will be an investigation. But 319 00:19:28.079 --> 00:19:33.279 a really really highlight thing that to show is the 320 00:19:33.440 --> 00:19:38.640 first response out of all of these local politicians was up, 321 00:19:39.000 --> 00:19:42.119 let's let's this is a terror. You know, there's been 322 00:19:42.160 --> 00:19:46.440 another shooting. It was against definitely innocent people, and we 323 00:19:46.680 --> 00:19:49.799 were out there pretty early saying no, these are TDA members, 324 00:19:49.960 --> 00:19:52.160 like this was part of a targeted We knew who 325 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:54.480 we were arresting, we knew that these were bad people, 326 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:57.839 and you immediately saw it stopped to operations. Do you 327 00:19:57.960 --> 00:20:00.319 really want the police to stop getting gang mem out 328 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:05.039 of your community? And just this immediate demonization, And I 329 00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:06.839 think one of the most striking ones of it was, 330 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:09.319 you know, CNN was trying to report that this was 331 00:20:09.480 --> 00:20:14.079 just a married couple and they were just targeted because 332 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:16.920 of their they weren't they weren't white, and it was 333 00:20:17.079 --> 00:20:20.000 just like, no, we had information on this and we 334 00:20:20.079 --> 00:20:23.799 targeted them. And then, as you said, then it was well, 335 00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:27.119 how do we know that their TDA and the local 336 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:30.920 police confirmed it. And as you said, he I don't 337 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:33.119 think he really wanted to based off of his statements. 338 00:20:33.119 --> 00:20:35.599 I'm going to leave that up to him. But we 339 00:20:35.839 --> 00:20:38.920 trust our officers, we trust the intelligence that we're working 340 00:20:39.039 --> 00:20:42.519 off of, and we support our officers. Again, you're in 341 00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:45.559 a dangerous situation, two gang members, and all of a suddenly, 342 00:20:46.279 --> 00:20:52.079 three thousand pound vehicles turned against you. We train our officers, 343 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:54.880 they responded the way they were supposed to. They worked 344 00:20:54.880 --> 00:20:56.839 for them the safety of the officers, and then we 345 00:20:56.920 --> 00:20:58.880 went and arrested these folks and we've got them and 346 00:20:58.920 --> 00:21:00.960 like I said, both of them, they are in custody now. 347 00:21:01.920 --> 00:21:03.559 And that's the biggest update. I'm sure there will be 348 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:06.039 an investigation of sure, there's all that, so I don't 349 00:21:06.039 --> 00:21:08.359 want to get ahead of it. But the thing that 350 00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:11.880 was so striking was that everybody wanted to be so 351 00:21:12.119 --> 00:21:15.240 fast to condemn it. And as all the information came out, 352 00:21:15.519 --> 00:21:17.880 I think it just became a little too hard to defend. 353 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:20.960 It did indeed, like all of these things. So here's 354 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:23.920 my question to you. I don't know how deeply you 355 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:27.559 can go into it, but when you see that kind 356 00:21:27.640 --> 00:21:30.880 of rhetoric, you hear that kind of rhetoric, but more 357 00:21:31.000 --> 00:21:35.759 than just you know what we're hearing from Tim Walls 358 00:21:36.039 --> 00:21:41.880 in Minneapolis mayor Jacob Frye, you know, the sort of 359 00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:45.920 overheated rhetoric, get the f out and those sorts of things. 360 00:21:46.680 --> 00:21:51.279 But actually we have heard from from public officials, from 361 00:21:51.319 --> 00:21:57.640 government officials talking about ways to obstruct ICE or at 362 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:03.400 least endorsing that. Would these people be arrested for obstruction? Harry? 363 00:22:03.440 --> 00:22:09.359 I think about a judge in Wisconsin, in Milwaukee County, 364 00:22:09.400 --> 00:22:12.960 Hannah Dugan. She was just convicted by a federal jury 365 00:22:13.640 --> 00:22:21.759 for obstructing justice in helping a again a criminal, a 366 00:22:21.839 --> 00:22:26.799 legal immigrant, escape ICE custody. Now, why is what she 367 00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:29.400 did any different from some of these other public officials 368 00:22:29.480 --> 00:22:35.599 who are helping leftist organizations and others try to stop 369 00:22:35.680 --> 00:22:36.799 ICE from doing its duty. 370 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:40.759 Well, that was a crazy story that came out of Wisconsin. 371 00:22:41.319 --> 00:22:45.000 I remember when that broke. It was just an insane story. 372 00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:48.680 But I think here's the thing, is that you should 373 00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:52.839 not be encouraging violence against officers, nor should you again 374 00:22:53.039 --> 00:22:56.200 be encouraging people to obstruct law enforcement from doing their job. 375 00:22:56.720 --> 00:22:58.720 You know, I don't want to get into a weird 376 00:22:58.839 --> 00:23:01.200 legal ease of what happened, but let's just use some 377 00:23:01.279 --> 00:23:05.160 common sense that you probably shouldn't be encouraging violence against others, 378 00:23:05.519 --> 00:23:08.640 and you shouldn't be encouraging people to impede law enforcement operations. 379 00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:11.880 I think it's wrong. We call it out everywhere we 380 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:18.079 see it, and it's unfortunately as impacted people that our 381 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:20.599 officers are facing this, you know, to kind of circle 382 00:23:20.640 --> 00:23:23.319 this back to Minneapolis, I mean, if you look on 383 00:23:23.400 --> 00:23:25.480 the news, you go on any social media, you can 384 00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:29.440 see what these folks are doing twenty four you know, 385 00:23:29.519 --> 00:23:33.119 more than half a dozen arrests for assault against officers 386 00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:36.279 since they've been there for a week. That's just an 387 00:23:36.319 --> 00:23:40.440 insane statistic. And obviously I wish they would listen to 388 00:23:40.480 --> 00:23:43.680 me and say, please, don't encourage people to go commit crimes. 389 00:23:43.720 --> 00:23:46.240 That's not a good thing to do. And I would 390 00:23:46.279 --> 00:23:48.559 hope people would not be taking that to heart. 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