1 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: And we are back with another edition of the Federalist 2 00:00:20,559 --> 00:00:24,079 Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, Senior Elections correspondent at the 3 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,879 Federalist and your experience Shirpa on today's quest for Knowledge. 4 00:00:29,199 --> 00:00:31,359 As always, you can email the show at radio at 5 00:00:31,359 --> 00:00:35,320 the Federalist dot com, follow us on x at fbr LST, 6 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,920 make sure to subscribe wherever you download your podcast, and 7 00:00:39,039 --> 00:00:42,640 of course to the premium version of our website as well. 8 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,759 Our guest today is Harry Phones, Department of Homeland Security 9 00:00:47,039 --> 00:00:51,799 Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs, on the ever 10 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:57,960 increasing peril of being an ice agent in sanctuary cities. Harry, 11 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,679 thank you so much for joining us in this edition 12 00:00:59,719 --> 00:01:00,920 of the Realist Radio Hour. 13 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,719 Speaker 2: Of course, Matt happy to join you. Well. 14 00:01:03,759 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: Thank you. I know you've been extremely, extremely busy. Give 15 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,079 us the latest now on what is happening in Minneapolis 16 00:01:13,719 --> 00:01:21,040 after last week when a woman there, Renee Good, looks 17 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,599 to according to video, appears to have struck an ice 18 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:32,719 officer with her vehicle. The ice officer then, in a 19 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:37,719 move to protect himself, fired his weapon and fatally shot 20 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,640 Miss Good. Of course, a lot has happened since then. 21 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,000 If you wouldn't mind. It is an update on first 22 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,079 and foremost where all of that stands today. 23 00:01:47,079 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: No, of course, Well, you know we all saw on 24 00:01:48,879 --> 00:01:52,280 Friday that new video that was released showing the view 25 00:01:52,319 --> 00:01:55,359 from the officers perspective. I think that really cleared up 26 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,760 a lot of the misconceptions that were about this. You know, 27 00:01:59,799 --> 00:02:03,239 we been extremely clear that we are supporting our officers, 28 00:02:03,719 --> 00:02:05,599 and I think that video does a lot of justice 29 00:02:05,599 --> 00:02:10,159 that this individual followed as training. You know, anybody else 30 00:02:10,319 --> 00:02:14,240 in that situation you would have fear for your life 31 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,439 looking at Since then, one of the big things the 32 00:02:18,479 --> 00:02:21,879 Secretary was actually in Minneapolis that night. She said the 33 00:02:21,879 --> 00:02:24,360 same thing is this is not going to deter us 34 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,280 from doing our job. And we've had officers deployed there 35 00:02:29,039 --> 00:02:32,520 since this. They are making arrests, they're enforcing the laws 36 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,159 in this nation. They are unfortunately again you've seen the 37 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,879 videos that have been coming out of Minneapolis since then, 38 00:02:39,719 --> 00:02:43,439 they are not facing support. They are facing attacks against them. 39 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,639 Almost every day there's been some type of an assault 40 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,800 on federal officers. We're still seeing vehicles being used against officers. 41 00:02:51,199 --> 00:02:55,560 Last night we saw fireworks being launched against officers. This 42 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,240 is not this is this is a very hostile situation, 43 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,759 and it's feeds into all the attacks that our officers 44 00:03:02,759 --> 00:03:07,159 are facing, and it's just it is very despicable. It's 45 00:03:07,199 --> 00:03:10,680 sad to see this because again, their core mission is 46 00:03:10,719 --> 00:03:14,479 they are trying to make American community safer. They're enforcing 47 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,719 laws in this nation. They're getting the worst and the 48 00:03:16,719 --> 00:03:21,000 worst out of our out of our communities, and that's 49 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,240 something you know, especially from the Department. We're trying to 50 00:03:23,319 --> 00:03:26,680 highlight a lot. You know, we're finding murders, rapist, gang members. 51 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,800 They're doing this cross country, but we are continuing to 52 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,680 do that mission in Minneapolis, and we are not going 53 00:03:30,719 --> 00:03:31,319 to be deterred. 54 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Harry, I wrote a piece for the Federalists this 55 00:03:34,479 --> 00:03:39,479 week and it begins this way, calling all rational Americans, 56 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,400 I mean, no matter what your view is on policy, 57 00:03:42,639 --> 00:03:46,960 take a look at the videos. Understand what is happening here. 58 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,919 Here are the thieves, child rapist and murderers. The left 59 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,280 latest false martyr was fighting for Renee Good, the thirty 60 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,599 seven year old radical fatally shot last week by the 61 00:03:59,599 --> 00:04:03,039 Immigrate and Customs Enforcement agent she appears to have struck 62 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,639 with her SUV was part of a leftist resistance movement 63 00:04:06,719 --> 00:04:10,639 that tried to stop ICE from arresting criminal illegal immigrants 64 00:04:10,919 --> 00:04:16,480 like Hernan Cortes Valencia, the Mexican foreign national who had 65 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,600 a final order of removal dating back more than nine years, 66 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,480 has been convicted of sexual assault against a child, sexual assault, 67 00:04:25,519 --> 00:04:29,800 carnal abuse, and four DUIs according to DHS. And the 68 00:04:29,879 --> 00:04:34,360 list of these awful, awful people go on and on. 69 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:40,279 That ultimately, to those of us watching here and wondering 70 00:04:40,439 --> 00:04:44,879 why all of these massive and violent protester going on 71 00:04:44,879 --> 00:04:48,040 in Minneapolis and elsewhere, that's who they're trying to protect, 72 00:04:48,079 --> 00:04:51,040 it appears to us, is that the case as you 73 00:04:51,079 --> 00:04:51,480 see it. 74 00:04:52,079 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 2: I mean that's how I see it. I think that 75 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,879 this is a two part is. One is you're seeing 76 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,800 the tactics that are being used against the officers, so 77 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:04,800 you obviously have the impeding our operations. You know, anybody, 78 00:05:05,199 --> 00:05:07,480 every child, if you talk to them, is you know, 79 00:05:07,519 --> 00:05:09,560 should you be trying to stop an officers or trying 80 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,639 to arrest a criminal. A child would be able to 81 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,920 tell you no, that's something that you shouldn't do. You know, 82 00:05:15,959 --> 00:05:18,600 they're they're threatening. Our agents are facing in eight thousand 83 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,759 percent in death threats. The assault rate is obviously up 84 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,360 that we always talked about is thirteen hundred percent increase 85 00:05:25,439 --> 00:05:29,439 in assaults. There's been a three two hundred percent increase 86 00:05:29,519 --> 00:05:33,120 in vehicle attacks. And the mission our officers are trying 87 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,480 to do is what you just said. We're trying to 88 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,360 get criminal, bad guys off of the street who they're defending. 89 00:05:39,959 --> 00:05:42,639 You know, we just sent out earlier today some of 90 00:05:42,639 --> 00:05:46,879 the folks that we've arrested in Minneapolish we got an 91 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,800 armed robbery of a business, uh in decent exposure, selling meth, 92 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:58,399 selling cocaine, criminal sexual conduct. These are the people that 93 00:05:58,439 --> 00:06:01,279 they're trying to prevent us from getting out there. And 94 00:06:01,319 --> 00:06:04,000 I just think it's totally ridiculous that if you were 95 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,199 to ask, you said, it's the call for sanity and 96 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,839 the call to reason is if you were to ask 97 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,319 anybody is would you want to be helping or hindering 98 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:18,040 the officers getting these people off the streets? Most people 99 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,959 should say I would want those people out of my community. 100 00:06:21,399 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: M Yeah, and understandably. So take a look at their 101 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,360 their long and violent criminal rap sheets. There these are, 102 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:34,360 as we said, killers, rapist, child molesters. It's just it's amazing. 103 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:41,839 Are you surprised by any of this given the years 104 00:06:42,319 --> 00:06:48,759 of folks like Governor Tim Walls describing ICE agents as 105 00:06:49,199 --> 00:06:51,879 Trump's new Gestapo. 106 00:06:52,319 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 2: You know, and we have been calling for this the 107 00:06:54,639 --> 00:06:57,519 entire time. So there's there's two parts with this. Is 108 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,000 it's the rhetoric you're seeing out of these left point politicians. 109 00:07:03,079 --> 00:07:05,800 They're spearing our officers. You know, if you are just 110 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:10,920 being constantly everything, everything, every day, our officers are being 111 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,839 compared to the Nazisans of the Gestapo, which is just wrong. 112 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,959 That should be that should be stopped. Like I mean, 113 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,000 I graduated with a history degree, Like these guys do 114 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,720 not know their history clearly, right, and that just is upsetting. 115 00:07:24,759 --> 00:07:27,120 But the other part is is these guys are going 116 00:07:27,199 --> 00:07:29,680 into like the reason we are in Minneapolis is because 117 00:07:29,959 --> 00:07:33,920 these politicians aren't doing their job. We're having to go 118 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,519 in because they're sanctuary jurisdictions and they don't want to 119 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,199 work with law enforcement. These officers are putting their lives 120 00:07:41,199 --> 00:07:43,560 on the line to clean up these communities that have 121 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,079 literally made the laws that are forcing them to go 122 00:07:46,199 --> 00:07:49,600 into it. You know, somebody I want to quote is 123 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,199 you know with Chief Bavino with Border Patrol is out 124 00:07:53,199 --> 00:07:56,079 of Minneapolis, and he has said this really best. He 125 00:07:56,199 --> 00:08:00,120 just was in an operation in New Orleans and they're 126 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,920 was one assault because they were able to work with 127 00:08:02,959 --> 00:08:08,120 the local police departments. We've already seen more than I 128 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,120 believe it's two dozen assaults in a week on officers, 129 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,319 and it's because they're not able to actually work with it. 130 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,720 We want to work with state and local governments. We 131 00:08:18,839 --> 00:08:20,800 have a great you know, in the midst of all 132 00:08:20,839 --> 00:08:22,839 of all that is going on, I also like to 133 00:08:22,879 --> 00:08:25,639 highlight the good. We have a robust program, it's called 134 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,600 the two eighty seven G program where we are working 135 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,480 with state and state and local jurisdictions across the country, 136 00:08:33,759 --> 00:08:37,240 which is, hey, a guy goes into a local jail, 137 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,519 they do an immigration search, so hey, we've got a criminal. 138 00:08:40,759 --> 00:08:42,919 They let us know and we're able to take care 139 00:08:42,919 --> 00:08:45,039 of it so that that person is not released back 140 00:08:45,039 --> 00:08:49,919 into the community. And it's because of these sanctuary policies 141 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,279 that we can't do that in a place like Minneapolis, 142 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,320 so we have to send officers in there to again 143 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,080 enforce the laws of the nation. 144 00:08:58,919 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: So what do you think of the sort of allegations 145 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:08,279 you're hearing from the likes of Tim walls, and do 146 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,399 you think that maybe he has a vested interest in 147 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,639 his constituents in Minnesota and the rest of the country 148 00:09:17,639 --> 00:09:23,240 talking about something other than the massive Somali welfare fraud 149 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,960 scandal in Minnesota right now, Well. 150 00:09:25,799 --> 00:09:27,399 Speaker 2: I think we've all seen a lot of the facts 151 00:09:27,399 --> 00:09:30,080 having to do with this fraud scandal, and you know, 152 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,559 I kind of want to leave that there. Each a 153 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,360 SI which is under us is doing investigations. One want 154 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,399 to get ahead of it. What we're seeing certainly raises 155 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,159 my eyebrows. But I think that there is this this 156 00:09:41,279 --> 00:09:47,279 is the consequences of actions has happened, which is that, Hey, 157 00:09:47,639 --> 00:09:50,519 there's all this rage of we're going to say we 158 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,799 want sanctuary jurisdictions. We're going to do this without any consequence, 159 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,399 it doesn't cost anything. We're just going to appeal to 160 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,559 this rhetoric. We're going to appeal to to you know, 161 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,559 these really radical ideas of we're just not going to 162 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,759 enforce the laws of this nation, and that is we're 163 00:10:06,759 --> 00:10:08,879 not letting that stand. We are going to enforce the 164 00:10:08,919 --> 00:10:11,159 laws of this nation, and so that's forcing us to 165 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:16,279 come in. And this is a consequence of again, their actions. 166 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:17,840 So we're going in there and doing that. You know, 167 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,159 we are going to go in and get criminal legals 168 00:10:20,159 --> 00:10:22,639 out of there. I kind of think it's probably embarrassing 169 00:10:23,039 --> 00:10:25,440 when it is, Hey, these guys that you are trying 170 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,200 to demonize are having to go in and clean up 171 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,320 your community, you know. I think that that's the really 172 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,720 big thing. Again, I always want to stress is we 173 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,279 don't have to do this in a lot of other 174 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,320 parts of the country because people are actually working with us, 175 00:10:38,399 --> 00:10:41,080 and that's what law enforcement is about. Here, we have 176 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,360 to because they aren't working with us. 177 00:10:43,919 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: Like a halfway decent attorney, I asked some questions. I 178 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,720 know the answers to, but what do you think would 179 00:10:49,759 --> 00:10:54,039 have been the response from the politicians in Minnesota, the 180 00:10:54,159 --> 00:10:59,960 leftist politicians across the country and Minnesota and Minneapolis resident 181 00:11:00,159 --> 00:11:04,159 in general had it been the other way around, had 182 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:12,000 Missed Good killed the ice officer with her vehicle, Well, I. 183 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 2: Don't want to get too much into hypothetical, but I 184 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,799 hope they would have condemned it. And that's something that again, 185 00:11:17,039 --> 00:11:20,200 the rhetoric is only encouraging action against our officers. It 186 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,440 would be really nice to see our leaders stand up 187 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,720 and say, hey, let's not demonize these brave men and 188 00:11:26,759 --> 00:11:29,080 women who are putting their lives on the line to 189 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,120 do this. We should be thanking them. Friday was Law 190 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,759 Enforcement Appreciation Day. I don't think that we're getting a 191 00:11:35,799 --> 00:11:38,320 lot of thanks from the far left politicians that are 192 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:39,200 spreading this kind. 193 00:11:39,039 --> 00:11:41,519 Speaker 1: Of rhetoric, No, no doubt about that. And there's a 194 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,200 there's a great video out there. I'm not sure if 195 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,879 you've seen it, Harry, but it really drives I think 196 00:11:46,879 --> 00:11:51,080 this whole point home. There's a gentleman in I believe 197 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,679 it's in Minneapolis. He walks up to some ice agents 198 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:59,279 and he says, folks, listen, I'm not choosing sides here, 199 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,559 but I know you have a very difficult job. I 200 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,480 want to pray over you, and I want to I 201 00:12:03,519 --> 00:12:06,519 want to pray that that you conduct your mission and 202 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,039 you're you're able to be safe and effectively come home 203 00:12:10,919 --> 00:12:14,960 to your families, because that's really what it is. At 204 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:15,720 the end of the day. 205 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 2: I want to say thank you for what you're doing. 206 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,159 Speaker 1: All the suburb or prank for everybody, but. 207 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,279 Speaker 2: Also for you, and just thank you. It's it's not easy. 208 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,720 We're not taking sides in any of this, but we 209 00:12:26,879 --> 00:12:28,879 know that it has not been easy for you guys. 210 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,120 He's your protection, the blessed your conversation to thank you 211 00:12:32,159 --> 00:12:35,000 for his confidence. They'll just blessed him and Ben say 212 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,399 the Lord betrayed for a journey that there would be 213 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,320 loved being the people in the offices in Jesus. 214 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: What a stark contrast that is, Harry, to the sort 215 00:12:45,759 --> 00:12:48,919 of vitriol we're seeing on the streets of Minneapolis by 216 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:55,159 a certain percentage of citizens of this country. Yeah. 217 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 2: I haven't seen that exact video, but I think that 218 00:12:57,799 --> 00:13:00,399 that sums it up, is that, you know, we should 219 00:13:00,399 --> 00:13:02,639 be praying for these officers. I do every day, and 220 00:13:03,159 --> 00:13:05,159 again I'm very thankful when I get to talk to them, 221 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,679 and we would hope that people would be thanking them 222 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:12,639 for what they're doing. It shouldn't be this demonization. What 223 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:20,000 people forget is that these officers are husbands, wives, brothers, sisters, 224 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,320 They have families. They are waking up every day and 225 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,120 doing the job that they signed up to do, and 226 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,759 it's for a noble purpose, which is to enforce the 227 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,600 laws of the nation. And I keep breaking back to 228 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,360 that because you hear this that they're they're racist, they're 229 00:13:35,519 --> 00:13:38,039 doing these things just because of this or that. It's no. 230 00:13:38,799 --> 00:13:42,519 We are a nation of laws. They're enforcing it. They 231 00:13:42,639 --> 00:13:44,639 signed up to do this. I'm sure there are a 232 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,879 lot easier jobs out there than what they're having to 233 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,720 do every day that they could be doing. But instead 234 00:13:50,039 --> 00:13:53,159 they're waking up, they're doing what's right, They're doing their job, 235 00:13:54,039 --> 00:13:55,679 and I think that that's them. Again, I haven't seen 236 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,879 the video. That's a sentiment that should be out there 237 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,039 more versus the rhetoric that we see about these guys 238 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,720 and guys and women. And just at the first response 239 00:14:06,799 --> 00:14:09,720 by to many people ish you're a Nazi. 240 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: Right, that's their first response to all of this. And 241 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,720 as you said before, know your history first and foremost. 242 00:14:20,279 --> 00:14:24,320 Our federalist radio hour listeners may be familiar with this, 243 00:14:24,679 --> 00:14:31,279 perhaps not. But the ice officer involved was in a 244 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:36,519 similar situation, I believe, back in June in a suburb 245 00:14:36,559 --> 00:14:41,639 of Minneapolis, where a criminal illegal immigrant ICE was trying 246 00:14:41,679 --> 00:14:48,440 to apprehend, ran over him and dragged him in the 247 00:14:48,559 --> 00:14:53,919 vehicle for I believe fifty yards according to the DHS report, 248 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,360 What must have gone through this gentleman's mind as he 249 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:03,159 was facing what seemed to him and to many of us, 250 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:04,360 a clear and present danger. 251 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,039 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean again, that video that came out on Friday, 252 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,639 that's from the officer's perspective is night and day. Everybody 253 00:15:12,639 --> 00:15:15,440 I've talked to and I go, what would you have 254 00:15:15,559 --> 00:15:19,799 done in that situation? You can see that now it's 255 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,159 it's light and day. It takes away so much of 256 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,159 the issis that we're made against the officer the only 257 00:15:26,519 --> 00:15:28,960 and I can only imagine, you know, all the things 258 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,919 that we're seeing, I mean, the amount of death threats 259 00:15:30,919 --> 00:15:34,039 he's getting, and again it's not just him, it's all 260 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,519 of our officers. A six I'm sorry, it's an eight 261 00:15:37,759 --> 00:15:43,159 thousand percent increase in death threats wow against officers, staggering. 262 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,039 The amount of assaults every day. When you're waking up 263 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,440 to go do your job and you've got that high 264 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,600 of a percentage that you're going to interact with somebody 265 00:15:51,639 --> 00:15:53,480 who's going to try to assault you while you're doing 266 00:15:53,559 --> 00:15:57,879 your job, I can only imagine. I mean, it has 267 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,039 toway heavy. But these guys are men and women are 268 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,159 going out there every day and doing doing what they're 269 00:16:03,159 --> 00:16:06,519 supposed to. And again we should be thanking them because 270 00:16:06,559 --> 00:16:09,679 we see the fruits of their labor, which is all 271 00:16:09,799 --> 00:16:13,600 these criminals that are going out. You know one thing 272 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,120 I'd like to highlight. Obviously, we put out a lot 273 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,840 of press releases. We have a website. We actually just 274 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,320 added five thousand new criminal legal aliens to it yesterday. 275 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:26,399 It's wow dot DHS dot gov. Wow dot DHS dot gov. 276 00:16:26,799 --> 00:16:29,240 And we've created a database where you can go in, 277 00:16:29,879 --> 00:16:32,440 put your state in, and you can see just some 278 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,840 And this is not not a full database. It's just 279 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,200 some of the criminals that we have we have gotten 280 00:16:38,279 --> 00:16:40,960 under this administration. And you look at all them and 281 00:16:41,039 --> 00:16:43,200 you would think, man, I'd like to thank the person 282 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,879 who got that person out of my state. I don't 283 00:16:45,919 --> 00:16:47,720 know how you can look at it and go, yeah, 284 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,559 I think we probably should have let it. Just like 285 00:16:49,639 --> 00:16:52,240 you said, we probably should have not allow a murder 286 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,600 or a rapist to just keep remaining in a community. 287 00:16:56,679 --> 00:16:59,519 Speaker 1: Our guest today on this edition of The Federalist Radio Hours, 288 00:16:59,559 --> 00:17:04,200 Harry Owns, Department of Homeland Security Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary 289 00:17:04,279 --> 00:17:08,359 for Public Affairs, talking about the increasing peril of being 290 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:13,160 an ICE agent in sanctuary cities, and certainly Harry's laid 291 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,799 out the case for it. I've seen the website. It's 292 00:17:15,839 --> 00:17:19,599 remarkable and obviously we at the Federalists have been covering 293 00:17:20,079 --> 00:17:25,279 the stories of these very violent criminal illegal immagates, again 294 00:17:26,279 --> 00:17:31,559 not just illegal immigrants, but individuals who have committed great 295 00:17:31,799 --> 00:17:38,839 offenses against individuals and society, and it just again it 296 00:17:39,079 --> 00:17:44,039 makes you wonder as it relates to Minneapolis though, and 297 00:17:44,559 --> 00:17:47,759 some of the demonstrations we've seen obviously that the situation 298 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:52,440 in Portland comes to mind, if you could give us 299 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:57,680 an update on what went down in Portland, because even 300 00:17:57,759 --> 00:18:02,839 the police chief there, through tears, oddly enough, had to 301 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:08,039 acknowledge the fact that the two individuals who were shot 302 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:15,720 the other day in Portland were also violent criminal illegal 303 00:18:15,839 --> 00:18:19,319 immigrants and they were involved in a very violent gang. 304 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,559 Speaker 2: I was going to say, not just criminals, members of TDA, 305 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:30,519 which is a terrorist organization, terrible gang, right, kidnapping, drugs, murder. 306 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,519 This is not people, and I think that that's pretty obvious. 307 00:18:35,599 --> 00:18:39,880 So you know, the quick recap of that is Thursday nights, 308 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,960 so Border Patrol is in Portland as part of our 309 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:48,559 operations there, they were doing a targeted immigration enforcement against 310 00:18:48,599 --> 00:18:52,119 a known member of TDA as well as an associate 311 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,640 of TDA who's been involved in a prostitution ring there, 312 00:18:56,519 --> 00:18:59,920 as well as a prior shooting in Portland earlier in 313 00:19:00,079 --> 00:19:03,079 the summer. As they went to make the arrest in 314 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,920 the car, the driver, again TDA member, decided to weaponize 315 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:13,359 it and drive at the officer, fired shots defensively. They 316 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,839 later found the individual found the car. Those individuals, the 317 00:19:18,279 --> 00:19:22,759 drivers currently an FBI custody. The passenger is in ICE 318 00:19:22,839 --> 00:19:27,039 custody now pending removal. There will be an investigation. But 319 00:19:28,079 --> 00:19:33,279 a really really highlight thing that to show is the 320 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:38,640 first response out of all of these local politicians was up, 321 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,119 let's let's this is a terror. You know, there's been 322 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:46,440 another shooting. It was against definitely innocent people, and we 323 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,799 were out there pretty early saying no, these are TDA members, 324 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,160 like this was part of a targeted We knew who 325 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,480 we were arresting, we knew that these were bad people, 326 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,839 and you immediately saw it stopped to operations. Do you 327 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,319 really want the police to stop getting gang mem out 328 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:05,039 of your community? And just this immediate demonization, And I 329 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:06,839 think one of the most striking ones of it was, 330 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,319 you know, CNN was trying to report that this was 331 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:14,079 just a married couple and they were just targeted because 332 00:20:14,079 --> 00:20:16,920 of their they weren't they weren't white, and it was 333 00:20:17,079 --> 00:20:20,000 just like, no, we had information on this and we 334 00:20:20,079 --> 00:20:23,799 targeted them. And then, as you said, then it was well, 335 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,119 how do we know that their TDA and the local 336 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,920 police confirmed it. And as you said, he I don't 337 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,119 think he really wanted to based off of his statements. 338 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,599 I'm going to leave that up to him. But we 339 00:20:35,839 --> 00:20:38,920 trust our officers, we trust the intelligence that we're working 340 00:20:39,039 --> 00:20:42,519 off of, and we support our officers. Again, you're in 341 00:20:42,559 --> 00:20:45,559 a dangerous situation, two gang members, and all of a suddenly, 342 00:20:46,279 --> 00:20:52,079 three thousand pound vehicles turned against you. We train our officers, 343 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,880 they responded the way they were supposed to. They worked 344 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,839 for them the safety of the officers, and then we 345 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,880 went and arrested these folks and we've got them and 346 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,960 like I said, both of them, they are in custody now. 347 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,559 And that's the biggest update. I'm sure there will be 348 00:21:03,599 --> 00:21:06,039 an investigation of sure, there's all that, so I don't 349 00:21:06,039 --> 00:21:08,359 want to get ahead of it. But the thing that 350 00:21:08,559 --> 00:21:11,880 was so striking was that everybody wanted to be so 351 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,240 fast to condemn it. And as all the information came out, 352 00:21:15,519 --> 00:21:17,880 I think it just became a little too hard to defend. 353 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: It did indeed, like all of these things. So here's 354 00:21:21,039 --> 00:21:23,920 my question to you. I don't know how deeply you 355 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,559 can go into it, but when you see that kind 356 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,880 of rhetoric, you hear that kind of rhetoric, but more 357 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:35,759 than just you know what we're hearing from Tim Walls 358 00:21:36,039 --> 00:21:41,880 in Minneapolis mayor Jacob Frye, you know, the sort of 359 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,920 overheated rhetoric, get the f out and those sorts of things. 360 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:51,279 But actually we have heard from from public officials, from 361 00:21:51,319 --> 00:21:57,640 government officials talking about ways to obstruct ICE or at 362 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:03,400 least endorsing that. Would these people be arrested for obstruction? Harry? 363 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:09,359 I think about a judge in Wisconsin, in Milwaukee County, 364 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,960 Hannah Dugan. She was just convicted by a federal jury 365 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:21,759 for obstructing justice in helping a again a criminal, a 366 00:22:21,839 --> 00:22:26,799 legal immigrant, escape ICE custody. Now, why is what she 367 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,400 did any different from some of these other public officials 368 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:35,599 who are helping leftist organizations and others try to stop 369 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:36,799 ICE from doing its duty. 370 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,759 Speaker 2: Well, that was a crazy story that came out of Wisconsin. 371 00:22:41,319 --> 00:22:45,000 I remember when that broke. It was just an insane story. 372 00:22:45,079 --> 00:22:48,680 But I think here's the thing, is that you should 373 00:22:48,799 --> 00:22:52,839 not be encouraging violence against officers, nor should you again 374 00:22:53,039 --> 00:22:56,200 be encouraging people to obstruct law enforcement from doing their job. 375 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,720 You know, I don't want to get into a weird 376 00:22:58,839 --> 00:23:01,200 legal ease of what happened, but let's just use some 377 00:23:01,279 --> 00:23:05,160 common sense that you probably shouldn't be encouraging violence against others, 378 00:23:05,519 --> 00:23:08,640 and you shouldn't be encouraging people to impede law enforcement operations. 379 00:23:08,799 --> 00:23:11,880 I think it's wrong. We call it out everywhere we 380 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:18,079 see it, and it's unfortunately as impacted people that our 381 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,599 officers are facing this, you know, to kind of circle 382 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,319 this back to Minneapolis, I mean, if you look on 383 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,480 the news, you go on any social media, you can 384 00:23:25,599 --> 00:23:29,440 see what these folks are doing twenty four you know, 385 00:23:29,519 --> 00:23:33,119 more than half a dozen arrests for assault against officers 386 00:23:33,599 --> 00:23:36,279 since they've been there for a week. That's just an 387 00:23:36,319 --> 00:23:40,440 insane statistic. And obviously I wish they would listen to 388 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,680 me and say, please, don't encourage people to go commit crimes. 389 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,240 That's not a good thing to do. And I would 390 00:23:46,279 --> 00:23:48,559 hope people would not be taking that to heart. It 391 00:23:48,599 --> 00:23:50,680 would not be acting on that kind of bad advice. 392 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,559 Speaker 3: Regime change sounds great, but what's the real story in Venezuela? 393 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,640 The Watchdout on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. Every 394 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,440 day Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and the 395 00:24:04,519 --> 00:24:07,599 economy and how it affects your wallet. Maduro's captured, but 396 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,200 his entire apparatus is still there. Are they truly liberated? 397 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,759 Will the US have to cut a deal with whoever's 398 00:24:13,839 --> 00:24:16,759 left even after this operation? Whether it's happening in DC 399 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,920 or down on Wall Street, it's affecting you financially. 400 00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:19,559 Speaker 1: Be informed. 401 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 3: Check out the Watchdout on Wall Street podcast with Chris 402 00:24:21,799 --> 00:24:24,720 Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 403 00:24:29,319 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: You mentioned it before in the Portland case. It certainly 404 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,039 came out in the Minneapolis case, and it's happened time 405 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,759 and time again, the rush to judgment, the rush to 406 00:24:38,599 --> 00:24:46,839 judge federal law enforcement officials in their efforts to enforce 407 00:24:47,799 --> 00:24:52,640 US immigration law. I can't help but think about maybe 408 00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:57,279 the most dominant case of that, which was really assisted, aided, 409 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:02,720 and debedded by an accomp list media, the Maryland man case. 410 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,720 And I think about the Minneapolis woman with three young children. 411 00:25:07,839 --> 00:25:12,000 That's how Renee Good is being painted. As you noted 412 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:17,119 the Portland couple just to driving about minding their own business. 413 00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:19,799 I mean, those are the sorts of narratives that have 414 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:25,359 popped up. They've been so patently false. But in your estimation, 415 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,920 how much culpability does the corporate media have in all 416 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:31,119 of this? 417 00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think that we really, we really 418 00:25:36,279 --> 00:25:39,400 would just ask folks to, you know, get the fact straight. 419 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,599 Don't rush your judgment on these things. Obviously, there are 420 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,960 a lot of rapidly evolving situations. We try to do 421 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,680 our best to get the information out there, but we 422 00:25:48,759 --> 00:25:53,440 shouldn't be making heroes out of people who are trying 423 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:58,319 to stop officers from arresting criminals. Again, don't want to 424 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,519 get into any kind ofly trouble necessarily and say it, 425 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,200 but look at the reporting and look at what they're 426 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,920 reporting against. You know, the offst of public affairs at DHS, 427 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,440 we get hundreds of inquiries a day and the amount 428 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,480 of ones that are about, hey, we want to cover 429 00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:17,640 the officers that are doing really good work, or let's 430 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,640 look at the people you guys are going after, or 431 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,240 even more, which I think is a very important story, 432 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,160 is the victims of illegal immigration. We don't get a 433 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,680 lot of those, especially from the mainstream media, and I 434 00:26:30,759 --> 00:26:33,000 think people need to look at the cost of that. 435 00:26:34,519 --> 00:26:37,720 You know, I believe Lincoln Riley's twenty fourth birthday was 436 00:26:37,759 --> 00:26:41,960 supposed to be yesterday. We've seen these horrible, horrible stories. 437 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:47,240 I mean, they're heart wrenching, and behind every one of 438 00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:51,359 those is the system did not stop this person from 439 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,920 either coming into the country or did not get them 440 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,240 when they were released from a jail because a lot 441 00:26:56,279 --> 00:26:59,359 of them have had priors before, or these are people 442 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,960 that shouldn't have been there. And if we just enforce 443 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,279 the laws of our country, you know, somebody else would 444 00:27:06,319 --> 00:27:09,759 be alive right now. And that's one of the things 445 00:27:09,799 --> 00:27:13,720 that drive our mission, right we want to get bad 446 00:27:13,839 --> 00:27:17,240 people out of our country. Like we should be highlighting 447 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,079 the good work that our officers are doing. But you know, 448 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,079 I don't see a lot of those articles. Federalists does 449 00:27:23,079 --> 00:27:25,039 a great job covering a lot of that stuff, which 450 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,559 you know, we obviously appreciated and are shetting light on. 451 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,920 As you said, you guys highlighted a lot that people 452 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,119 were getting out of it, and I think that that's 453 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,079 a really important story that is never told, is the 454 00:27:36,319 --> 00:27:41,000 cost of legal immigration and what happens with these sanctuary 455 00:27:41,079 --> 00:27:44,240 jurisdictions because there's so many of these stories that are 456 00:27:44,319 --> 00:27:47,640 just never highlighted. And it's American families that are being 457 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,680 impacted by this, it's innocent lives that are being taken. 458 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,799 Speaker 1: Yeah again, you know, as a journalist, you have every 459 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,519 right to ask questions about policy and about how the 460 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,920 laws are being enforced, all of those sorts of things. 461 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,400 But damn it, tell the other side of the story, 462 00:28:06,079 --> 00:28:09,359 at least make a pretense of doing that. They don't. 463 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,519 And what you said before, you know about the victims, 464 00:28:13,599 --> 00:28:16,440 the Lake and Riley's of the world doesn't fit their narrative, 465 00:28:16,799 --> 00:28:19,839 so they don't exist. And that's the sad thing. I mean, 466 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,839 I've covered extensively, and I've gotten to know a gentleman 467 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,519 from Illinois, and I think perhaps you may know him 468 00:28:28,759 --> 00:28:36,039 as well. Joe Abraham, whose daughter, twenty year old Katie Abraham, 469 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:43,839 was killed by in a legal immigrant who was drunk 470 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,400 and driving it eighty miles per hour, smashed into their vehicle, 471 00:28:47,519 --> 00:28:51,359 killed two young women with their futures in front of them. 472 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,279 You know, JB. Pritzker won't give that story the time 473 00:28:55,359 --> 00:29:00,599 of day. He won't reach out to those people. You know, 474 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,039 these this is where the impact line is. We don't 475 00:29:05,079 --> 00:29:06,680 have much time left. 476 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: I want to know, if you don't mind, I would 477 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,480 really like to highlight here's a great a great story 478 00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:15,240 that did not get a lot of coverage related to 479 00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:18,119 the victims. Is one of the things that Secretary Nome 480 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,759 has done is we've actually reactivated an office called Voice 481 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,160 Victims of Immigration Crime Engagement. And I think this is 482 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,240 an important one. And as you mentioned, we know Joe 483 00:29:30,279 --> 00:29:33,039 Abraham's story. He's somebody who is going through this office. 484 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,200 Is one of the things that this administration did was 485 00:29:36,319 --> 00:29:39,400 make sure that there's an office that is standing by 486 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,559 ready to assist the families who have been the victims 487 00:29:43,559 --> 00:29:47,880 of illegal immigration. They have a website would encourage anybody 488 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,480 look it up. And the stories that they get out 489 00:29:50,519 --> 00:29:52,440 of that, I mean, I know ICE has highlighted them. 490 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,960 We've highlighted some of these folks that already about to 491 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,359 talk about it in public. But that's one of those 492 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,640 basic stories. I don't remember a big headline story from 493 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,200 a lot of mainstream media of US reopening up that office, 494 00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:06,440 but they are doing good work and I can only imagine, 495 00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:08,920 you know what the folks working there and how hard 496 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,720 it is for family to come forward. But that's one 497 00:30:11,759 --> 00:30:14,279 of the ways we are actually trying to highlight stuff 498 00:30:14,319 --> 00:30:16,480 and really encourage people to look into the work that 499 00:30:16,519 --> 00:30:21,119 they're doing. Obviously, if impacted, they've got a hotline, courage, 500 00:30:21,359 --> 00:30:24,960 courage victims to reach out for help. But that's one 501 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,680 of those stories that's definitely got lost. But that was 502 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,200 shuttered under the Biden administration, and it's one of the 503 00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:32,079 first things we did early on was make sure that 504 00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:33,319 was open again. 505 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: Why was it shuttered under the Biden administration? 506 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 2: By the way, that's a great question that I can't 507 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,000 understand why you want to want to shut down a 508 00:30:43,039 --> 00:30:45,759 hotline to help people. I probably didn't fit into their 509 00:30:45,839 --> 00:30:49,920 narrative as they were helping oversee an invasion of our 510 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,000 country for four years. 511 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: Thank you right about that. Again, I know we don't 512 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,920 have too much time, You've got a gazillion things to do, 513 00:30:56,039 --> 00:30:58,680 But just a couple of final questions, are you at 514 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:03,000 all concerned what you've said over the last week or 515 00:31:03,079 --> 00:31:06,920 so in Minneapolis and other parts of the country. Now 516 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,720 we're going to see the Summer of Love twenty twenty, 517 00:31:10,839 --> 00:31:15,960 the massive Black Lives Matter protests once again happening in 518 00:31:16,079 --> 00:31:19,440 these cities over quite frankly, a false narrative. 519 00:31:20,759 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: I would really hope not. I always hope that our 520 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,519 officers are going to be safe as are doing their job. 521 00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:31,559 I know one thing that can say is that you know, 522 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,720 we are not backing down. We are going to continue 523 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,160 to enforce the laws of this nation. I really hope, 524 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,279 you know, folks come to their senses and we see 525 00:31:40,319 --> 00:31:42,440 the rhetoric stop, and we see the violence against our 526 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,440 officers stop. That's what I'm hoping for, so that the 527 00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:48,039 men and women that are on the ground are safe 528 00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:52,839 and they're not facing again eight percent increase in death threats, 529 00:31:53,319 --> 00:31:56,720 thirteen percent increase in assault in a thirty two hundred 530 00:31:56,759 --> 00:31:58,799 increase in vehicle assaults. 531 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,839 Speaker 1: You mentioned before as well. Secretary Nome has said we 532 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,480 are sending more ICE agents, more federal law enforcement officials 533 00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:12,839 to Minneapolis. What's the number there and what do you 534 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,200 think about the lawsuit filed this week to try to 535 00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:21,079 remove ICE's presence from Minneapolis and Minnesota. 536 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 2: They're not going to get into a specific number on that, 537 00:32:24,119 --> 00:32:26,559 but this is one of the largest DHS operations we've 538 00:32:26,599 --> 00:32:29,039 ever done. We don't want to put it we don't 539 00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:31,720 want to put a target on the backs of our 540 00:32:31,759 --> 00:32:39,119 officers more than they already have it this lawsuit. You know, 541 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,119 I think it's it's we are we are not going 542 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,200 to stop enforcing federal law. I think it's really interesting 543 00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:49,960 to just see these see I believe it's the mayor 544 00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:53,240 in the ag trying to push this. We're going to 545 00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:56,359 continue to enforce the law. It's just that simple. There's 546 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,440 a supremacy clause for a region reason. And it's very 547 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,000 interesting that they've now decided to try to discover the 548 00:33:02,079 --> 00:33:04,400 Tenth Amendment. Yes, it is. 549 00:33:05,119 --> 00:33:09,039 Speaker 1: That's an interesting point. That's for another show altogether. But 550 00:33:09,599 --> 00:33:14,160 state's rights to these folks just about a year plus 551 00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:17,759 ago didn't mean much. Now all of a sudden, the 552 00:33:17,839 --> 00:33:22,559 Tenth Amendment is critical to them. Very interesting. Well, you 553 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,039 do hard work, you do necessary work, and we're always 554 00:33:26,039 --> 00:33:27,960 glad to talk to You've got a standing invitation to 555 00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:28,960 join us anytime, sir. 556 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,039 Speaker 2: Fantastic, Thank you so much. I appreciate it, you bet. 557 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: Thanks to my guest today, Harry Phones, Department of Homeland 558 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,759 Security Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs, on the 559 00:33:39,799 --> 00:33:43,559 ever increasing peril of being an ice agent in sanctuary cities. 560 00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:46,680 You've been listening to another edition of The Federalist Radio Hour. 561 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,400 I'm Matt Kittle's senior elections correspondent at the Federalist. We'll 562 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,920 be back soon with more. Until then, stay lovers of freedom. 563 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,640 I'm anxious for the frame 564 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 2: Poo