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<v Speaker 1>these courses online. Welcome to the fifty five KRC Morning Show,

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Tuddle. Do we want a constitutional convention? That is

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<v Speaker 1>the question mark subject matter of the upcoming conversation taking

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<v Speaker 1>place tonight the tenth at seven pm online Empower You

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<v Speaker 1>America dot org to get registered for that, whether you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to show up at the Empower Youth studio or

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<v Speaker 1>in person. Let me get by a way a background,

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Well, He's done a ton of research on the

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<v Speaker 1>constitutional conventions. He's been actively involved in politics more than

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years, elected three times of the Warren County Central Committee,

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<v Speaker 1>volunteer lobbyists for a number of nonprofits across the states,

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<v Speaker 1>including Dayton Right to Life. He teaches classes on the

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<v Speaker 1>Constitution across Ohio, both as a member of Building Blocks

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<v Speaker 1>for Liberty YAY and the Institution Institute. Rather on the Constitution,

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<v Speaker 1>focusing on the serious problems of government overreach and fiscal irresponsibility,

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<v Speaker 1>subjects near and dear to my heart. So Rob, Rob,

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<v Speaker 1>it's great have you on the program. Why are you

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<v Speaker 1>a no on a constitutional convention or convention of States?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, thanks for having me on b and this a

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<v Speaker 4>real honor. As you said, I've been doing a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of research into this, because when you first hear about

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<v Speaker 4>this idea that we could have a constitutional convention and

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<v Speaker 4>do things in the Constitution by adding amendments that the

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<v Speaker 4>Congress won't do, they won't limit themselves, right, it's pretty exciting.

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<v Speaker 4>So unfortunately, I'm a bit of an analytical personality, and

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<v Speaker 4>I decided to do my own research on both sides

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<v Speaker 4>of the issue, and so what I found out was

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<v Speaker 4>that ultimately everything pointed to a very dangerous situation if

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<v Speaker 4>we were to convene another constitutional convention. If you remember

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<v Speaker 4>the first Convention, they were expected to merely revise the

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<v Speaker 4>Articles of Confederation, which was our first constitution, but yet

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<v Speaker 4>they ended up throwing it out out and creating an

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<v Speaker 4>all new constitution. Once those delegates are convened in a

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<v Speaker 4>constitutional convention, they have plenty of potentiary power, which means

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<v Speaker 4>they can make any changes to the Constitution they want.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think this is a very dangerous time, a

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<v Speaker 4>very toxic political environment, and we could expect to have

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of shenanigans at a convention like.

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<v Speaker 1>That, And I understand that concern and one of the

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<v Speaker 1>concerns expressed by my friend Rick Heron, who's been on

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<v Speaker 1>the program a bunch of times over the years on

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<v Speaker 1>variety of subject matters. He's, you know, Article five convention advocates.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, he always asks them, well, who will be

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<v Speaker 1>selecting the delegates? And the answer is is he points

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<v Speaker 1>out the state Assembly, which is leading to how reliably

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<v Speaker 1>conservative is the majority of the speaker of the House

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<v Speaker 1>in your state. We've got a bit of a problem,

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<v Speaker 1>like hrting cats in Columbus. It's republican state, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>Republican governor, House, and Senate, and yet they can't seem

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<v Speaker 1>to get anything accomplished by way of conservative values. That

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<v Speaker 1>is a bit of a problem, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, absolutely, we can't necessarily trust the state legislatures to

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<v Speaker 4>appoint people that are going to do a good job

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<v Speaker 4>for at least US conservatives. But I would say that

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<v Speaker 4>it's not even a sure thing that the state legislators

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<v Speaker 4>are going to appoint the delegates. There was a Congression

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<v Speaker 4>Research Service report which is the most comprehensive research on

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<v Speaker 4>how an Article five convention would actually be conducted back

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<v Speaker 4>in twenty fourteen. It was updated by the CRS in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty sixteen and seventeen, and they pointed out that there

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<v Speaker 4>are no rules around a constitutional convention or the requirements

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<v Speaker 4>or characteristics of delegates, not even how many delegates there

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<v Speaker 4>would be. And the CRS suggested that Congress actually has

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<v Speaker 4>broad latitude. And you may be familiar, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 4>you are, with the Necessary and Proper Clause at the

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<v Speaker 4>US Constitution that says that if Congress can call a convention,

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<v Speaker 4>then they have certain capabilities with respective defining the boundaries

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<v Speaker 4>of the invention that they that they call. So it

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<v Speaker 4>could very well be that Congress creates a situation where

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<v Speaker 4>the delegates are elected in the states. There's, in fact,

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<v Speaker 4>that has been suggested in legislation in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>Well as a I suppose a failsafe mechanism. Whatever would

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<v Speaker 1>happen in this convention of states. Constitutional convention would have

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<v Speaker 1>to be then submitted to the states for ratification or

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<v Speaker 1>for approval, and you're going to have to get everyone

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty how is it thirty seven states would need

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, thirty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, So that.

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<v Speaker 4>Would be the force of the states would have to ratify.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, So if they went off the rails and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they took away our freedom of speech, or

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<v Speaker 1>our Second Amendment rights keeping baar arms, or do what

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<v Speaker 1>they always are doing anyway, ignoring our Fourth Amendment right

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<v Speaker 1>to be free of unreasonable searches and seizures once it

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<v Speaker 1>lands in any given state, to be like hell, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to vote for that, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>whole concept be thrown out the window.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Well, that's a possibility. I would suggest that thirty

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<v Speaker 4>four states have to request the Convention in the first place,

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<v Speaker 4>and so you've got thirty four that are going to

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<v Speaker 4>be pretty likely to respond positively when they come back

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<v Speaker 4>for ratification. But you know, more than that, we've seen

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<v Speaker 4>the states in recent years, and take a look at Ohio, Brian,

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<v Speaker 4>We've seen the people of Ohio pass things that we

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<v Speaker 4>never thought that they would pass in the Constitution of Ohio.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure that I want to take that risk.

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<v Speaker 4>And frankly, there's a bill in the US Congress right

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<v Speaker 4>now by Jody Errington out of Texas. It's in the

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<v Speaker 4>Judiciary Committee. As we speak that says that the ratification

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<v Speaker 4>will actually be done by conventions in the States, not

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<v Speaker 4>by the state legislatures. So when George Soros and those

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<v Speaker 4>guys get their money and advertising, we've seen what they

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<v Speaker 4>can do by the people of the States and convincing them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like the abortion issue in Issue one that's currently

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<v Speaker 1>pending right now, there is fat liberal money behind support

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<v Speaker 1>for Issue one, and I'm a firm no on it

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<v Speaker 1>to the extent you want to listen to me vote

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Oh absolutely, Where I guess said, you know, most

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<v Speaker 4>of the money for Issue one, the current issue one,

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<v Speaker 4>as well as the previous ones, came from out of state,

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of it, even I from out of the country. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, what do they do in metal in the

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and that's just going to be a phenomenon going

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<v Speaker 1>forward as the world has become an extremely close play

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<v Speaker 1>small place and foreign influence is really easy to accomplish

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<v Speaker 1>these days through just handing out checks to people to

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and submit the campaign contributions directly to the

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<v Speaker 1>re elected representative, even though the money originated in a

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<v Speaker 1>foreign country. Crazy stuff going on out there. Tonight is

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<v Speaker 1>the night seven PM for Rob Tuttle talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>Constitutional Convention. Empower you America dot Org. I strongly encourage

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<v Speaker 1>you to get under there at anytime today register to

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<v Speaker 1>attend in person or to attend virtually. Rob, good luck tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>have an enjoyable conversation. I know the pro folks are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be there. We had a woman calling Diana

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<v Speaker 1>called in earlier said their folks are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>Oh good, Well promised.

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<v Speaker 4>To play nice I talked to those folks all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Good so she promised to play nicely with you.

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<v Speaker 4>We always play nicely with each other. But can I

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<v Speaker 4>just take one second to put in a plug for

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<v Speaker 4>Orlando Sanza because I've had this Yeah. So Orlando, I

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<v Speaker 4>know I've heard him speak about the enumerated powers in

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<v Speaker 4>the Constitution. I know he's a fiscal hockey's a CPA.

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<v Speaker 4>He's anxious to get on the budget committee up in Congress.

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<v Speaker 4>And we wouldn't have a budget problem or an out

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<v Speaker 4>of control spending problem if we had people like Orlando

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<v Speaker 4>Sanza in Congress who would obey the constitution that we

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<v Speaker 4>currently have. A man, I don't know why people think

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<v Speaker 4>that if Congress doesn't obey the Constitution today that merely

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<v Speaker 4>adding a couple of new amendments to the Constitution is

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<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden they're going to start obeying it.

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<v Speaker 1>Echoing the comments from a listener that made earlier this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>he said the exact same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Rob had fun tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy the conversation, folks, tune in through the empower Youamerica

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<v Speaker 1>dot org website. Rob's a real pleasure to have you

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<v Speaker 1>on the pro today. Thanks for what you're doing. Thank you, Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank my pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>Brother. Folks.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for getting crazy by the day is sounding on.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just waiting on some October surprise.

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