WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.000 --> 00:00:04.080 Well, Hello, this is Dean Gleason. I'm the executive director 2 00:00:04.120 --> 00:00:08.720 and chief investigator for Seaway Valley Bigfoot Research. We're located 3 00:00:08.759 --> 00:00:13.160 in upstate New York on the Canadian border in the 4 00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:16.239 Seaway Valley region, which is where the Saint Lawrence River 5 00:00:17.120 --> 00:00:20.719 goes from the Great Lakes and eventually goes to the Ocean, 6 00:00:21.120 --> 00:00:24.800 so that's why they call it the Seaway Valley. I've 7 00:00:24.839 --> 00:00:30.559 been doing investigations for about thirty five years or so, 8 00:00:31.760 --> 00:00:35.159 give her take a little bit. I've had six sightings 9 00:00:35.200 --> 00:00:39.200 over that period of time, most of them on my 10 00:00:39.280 --> 00:00:42.119 own property. I feel that I probably have a group 11 00:00:42.719 --> 00:00:45.439 my property, a small family group. I'm thinking there's probably 12 00:00:45.560 --> 00:00:48.399 four of them. From the difference in the tracks and 13 00:00:48.479 --> 00:00:51.920 from the sidings I've had, I believe I've seen Big Papa, 14 00:00:51.960 --> 00:00:54.759 Big Mama, and at least one of their kids, a 15 00:00:54.840 --> 00:00:57.960 juvenile that probably by now has going up quite a 16 00:00:58.000 --> 00:00:59.439 bit because it was about four years ago and I 17 00:00:59.479 --> 00:01:03.079 saw the side four or five years ago. But anyway, 18 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:09.040 I also have done investigations with BRFO, with a partnership 19 00:01:09.079 --> 00:01:12.000 with them, but most of the time I'm out doing 20 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:16.640 solo investigations, following up on leads from y witnesses and 21 00:01:17.799 --> 00:01:23.400 other sources of information that follow my lap, and I 22 00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:25.359 tried to get out there as quickly as I can, 23 00:01:25.400 --> 00:01:29.280 if at all possible, and so everything is fresh and 24 00:01:29.319 --> 00:01:34.719 the people's minds, and hopefully find some physical evidence has 25 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:38.719 been left behind and tracks or other things, and I've 26 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:44.000 had fairly good luck with that. I was on episode 27 00:01:44.120 --> 00:01:47.079 of three thirty three back a couple of years ago 28 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:52.719 or so, and enjoyed my conversation with your host and 29 00:01:52.799 --> 00:01:54.760 the feedback that I got from some of the fans 30 00:01:54.799 --> 00:01:58.359 that saw fit to message me. It was a lot 31 00:01:58.439 --> 00:02:01.040 of fun, and I was at to come back again, 32 00:02:01.239 --> 00:02:05.920 and I'm very happy to be here. I grew up 33 00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:08.680 in a small town up in northern New York, and 34 00:02:08.719 --> 00:02:12.120 when I was a kid, I first got introduced to 35 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:17.439 the bigfoot phenomena in a movie called Mysterious Monsters, was 36 00:02:17.479 --> 00:02:21.319 hosted by Peter Graves, and it just sparked my interest. 37 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:23.879 But I never thought for a million years that they 38 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:27.280 were bigfoot in my area until one day when I 39 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:29.960 was running my trap line on a small creek on 40 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:34.039 our land and I actually found some tracks that had 41 00:02:34.120 --> 00:02:36.840 come into the swamp and back out and across to 42 00:02:36.840 --> 00:02:40.080 the other side of the creek, and I didn't tell 43 00:02:40.080 --> 00:02:42.199 anybody about it for years and years and years because 44 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:45.360 I thought people wouldn't believe me, which is probably a 45 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:48.199 typical response for most people that have seen a bigfoot. 46 00:02:48.560 --> 00:02:50.520 They don't want people to think they're crazy, so they 47 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:55.240 keep it to themselves. A few years back, I had 48 00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:58.439 a jeep and I went and bought one of those 49 00:02:58.439 --> 00:03:00.680 stickers and put across the top of the wind chilled. 50 00:03:00.759 --> 00:03:02.439 You know you've probably seen them. People have them to 51 00:03:02.520 --> 00:03:05.520 say gone hunting or gone fishing. Well, I bought one 52 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:08.319 that said gone squatching and put it out my jeep, 53 00:03:09.120 --> 00:03:12.719 and it was probably one of the best research tools 54 00:03:12.759 --> 00:03:15.719 that I ever had, because I would have people come 55 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:19.520 up to me in parking lots, grocery stores, you name it, 56 00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:21.639 because they saw my jeep and wanted to talk to me. 57 00:03:22.439 --> 00:03:25.840 And I even had one gentleman follow me to a 58 00:03:25.879 --> 00:03:27.840 client's house. I'm a home health aate. I take care 59 00:03:27.879 --> 00:03:31.719 of people in their homes that are in need of services. 60 00:03:32.199 --> 00:03:35.080 And I was on my way to one of the 61 00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:38.080 people's homes and I actually passed a guy that was 62 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:40.159 standing in his yard and he saw my jeep and 63 00:03:40.199 --> 00:03:41.840 he got in his car and followed me to the 64 00:03:41.840 --> 00:03:45.520 client's house just to tell me his Bigfoot story. And 65 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:50.000 I collected hundreds of Bigfoot stories over the few years 66 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:52.680 that I had that that there was hardly a month 67 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:54.360 that went by where somebody didn't want to come and 68 00:03:54.400 --> 00:03:59.199 talk to me about Bigfoot. And so I was just 69 00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:01.800 talking to the host and he wanted me to tell 70 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:07.159 you my latest adventures in the bigfoot research. During the pandemic, 71 00:04:07.199 --> 00:04:09.039 I decided I was going to put a camp on 72 00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:11.159 my land. I had wanted to have one for years, 73 00:04:11.639 --> 00:04:14.319 but I really didn't have the time or the money 74 00:04:14.360 --> 00:04:16.079 to do it. But I'd saved up a little bit 75 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:17.519 of money and I was going to build a camp. 76 00:04:18.160 --> 00:04:21.720 But then the pandemic hit and prices of wood went 77 00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:24.879 skyrocketing up, and I thought, well, I guess I'm going 78 00:04:24.920 --> 00:04:26.399 to have to put my dream in hold right now 79 00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:30.240 until everything settles down. Well, I saw an ad on 80 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:35.480 Facebook that some Amish had put up a business not 81 00:04:35.560 --> 00:04:37.160 too far from where my land was, where they were 82 00:04:37.160 --> 00:04:40.879 building sheds, and the prices seemed pretty reasonable. So I 83 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:44.120 contacted them and asked them about building me a shed 84 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:46.480 with a man door in it instead of a big 85 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:49.240 opening door. And some windows, and they said no problem, 86 00:04:49.240 --> 00:04:52.399 and I was able to get it within my budget 87 00:04:52.759 --> 00:04:55.000 and put it on my land. Well, the first year 88 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:57.000 I was there, I did a lot of sprucing up 89 00:04:57.040 --> 00:04:59.839 around there. I cut brush and made myself a little 90 00:04:59.839 --> 00:05:03.879 long on, made a little fireplace outside, and I went 91 00:05:03.920 --> 00:05:07.000 back to the Amish woodmill. They sell scrap wood there 92 00:05:07.120 --> 00:05:09.920 for people to burn, like an outdoor fire pits and things. 93 00:05:09.959 --> 00:05:12.519 So I got a truckloaded of the wood and I 94 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:14.480 brought it back to the camp and I unloaded it 95 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:17.319 and I decided to mow the lawn. So I was 96 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:19.920 busy working around the camp and I came back to 97 00:05:19.959 --> 00:05:24.560 my truck. There was a hayfield between me and the 98 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:28.199 next property over, quite quite a long hayfield, I'd probably 99 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:32.000 half a mile or more, and I saw something moving. 100 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:34.720 There was a fence line that divides the property, and 101 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:37.519 I saw something moving along the fence line, and I thought, oh, 102 00:05:37.560 --> 00:05:40.399 it's probably one of the Amish gentlemen walking out back 103 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:43.000 there doing whatever, you know, he had to do. And 104 00:05:43.040 --> 00:05:45.639 I looked again and I noticed that it wasn't a person. 105 00:05:45.680 --> 00:05:47.879 It was it was a big foot and he was 106 00:05:47.920 --> 00:05:53.279 standing next to the fence watching me. And this was 107 00:05:53.399 --> 00:05:55.800 early in the summer. The grass was pretty high, but 108 00:05:56.360 --> 00:05:58.600 you know, people hadn't really been back doing hanging or 109 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:01.800 any other farming yet they were you know, was still 110 00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:03.879 pretty early for that, and he was standing on the 111 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:06.720 other side of the fence just watching me do what 112 00:06:06.759 --> 00:06:09.680 I was doing. So I went back into camp and 113 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:11.399 I got a pair of binoculars and I come back 114 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:15.000 out and I started watching him. Well after a minute 115 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:17.920 or two, he realized that I had seen him, and 116 00:06:17.959 --> 00:06:21.879 he walked away, and he didn't seem like he was 117 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:23.319 in too big of a hurry. He just kind of 118 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:25.879 walked down along the fence and went back into the brush. 119 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:28.000 So I thought, well, that was pretty cool. I got 120 00:06:28.040 --> 00:06:30.240 to see a big foot today, and I got getting 121 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:33.040 work done. So I went back to what I was doing, 122 00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:35.879 and about a half an hour later, I walked back 123 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:37.800 over to my truck again and I looked and he 124 00:06:37.959 --> 00:06:41.680 was back. Apparently he figured, you know, I had lost 125 00:06:41.720 --> 00:06:43.879 interest in him, and he but he hadn't lost interest 126 00:06:43.879 --> 00:06:46.560 in me, So he came back and was standing there 127 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:50.600 watching me over the fence. And this time I tried 128 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:52.360 to take a picture with my cell phone, but at 129 00:06:52.360 --> 00:06:55.040 the time I had a pretty crappy one, so I 130 00:06:55.079 --> 00:06:57.600 got your typical blurry bigfoot picture. But I did get 131 00:06:57.639 --> 00:07:01.600 a picture of him as best I could, and you 132 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:04.399 could see he's there in the picture. He's towering quite 133 00:07:04.439 --> 00:07:08.920 the ways above the fence, and I'm thinking that maybe 134 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:12.680 he is the juvenile that I saw, you know, a 135 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:14.639 couple of years before that, and be grown up a 136 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:17.240 little bit. When I saw him up close, he was 137 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:19.759 about four foot tall, and this guy was probably at 138 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:22.240 least my height, so he was around five ten or so. 139 00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:25.800 He wasn't huge, but he was, you know, big enough 140 00:07:25.800 --> 00:07:28.399 that you could tell that it was bigfoot, and especially 141 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:30.920 looking at tu binoculars, I could see him quite well. 142 00:07:31.720 --> 00:07:34.040 I just wish i'd have had a better phone with 143 00:07:34.079 --> 00:07:35.680 me or a better camera so I could have got 144 00:07:35.680 --> 00:07:39.079 a better picture of him. But that was the last 145 00:07:39.079 --> 00:07:43.519 sighting I had. Now. As far as experiences, that's another story. 146 00:07:44.199 --> 00:07:46.680 I've had tons and tons of experiences over the period 147 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:49.680 of time doing investigations and just being out in the woods. 148 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:53.879 One of the most remarkable ones was I was at 149 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:57.560 a convention down in Baltimore, Maryland, and I had done 150 00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:01.480 a panel at the convention on bigfoot research, and I 151 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:04.480 had come back into the convention floor and was walking 152 00:08:04.480 --> 00:08:06.600 around and these three young ladies come up to me, 153 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:10.839 and they had told me that they had been given 154 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:12.480 my name, but they didn't know that I was going 155 00:08:12.519 --> 00:08:14.160 to be at the convention. It just happened to be 156 00:08:14.480 --> 00:08:17.759 a coincidence that we ran into each other. A couple 157 00:08:17.800 --> 00:08:20.560 of years before this, I had done a interview on 158 00:08:21.959 --> 00:08:25.000 a blog show that TAPS put out the ghost Hunters. 159 00:08:25.040 --> 00:08:28.040 They used to have the show ghost Hunters. The organization 160 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:29.800 is called TAPS, and I had been on the show 161 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:33.120 and talked about Bigfoot. Well, they had come up to 162 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:37.080 the area where these three young ladies live and we're 163 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:41.039 doing a ghost investigation of a haunted cemetery there. And 164 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:43.399 while they were there, they were walking around in the 165 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:48.279 cornfield next to the cemetery and they found bigfoot tracks. 166 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:51.159 And they told the people there, you know, if you 167 00:08:51.159 --> 00:08:53.320 want somebody to follow up on this, you should get 168 00:08:53.320 --> 00:08:55.279 a hold of Dean. We know him. He was here 169 00:08:55.440 --> 00:08:58.120 not too far away. He possibly could come down and 170 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:02.519 do an investigation. I told the ladies shore anytime, let 171 00:09:02.600 --> 00:09:04.200 me know when you want me to come in, and 172 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:06.519 I'll be more unhappy to So I ended up doing 173 00:09:06.679 --> 00:09:10.600 two weekend investigations down in the area. It's called Bath, 174 00:09:10.679 --> 00:09:13.440 New York, and the name of the place is called 175 00:09:14.320 --> 00:09:18.080 Ebony Rose Farms. Is the area where I was, and 176 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:20.919 the one young lady lived there. She had had a sighting. 177 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:23.720 She had seen one standing on the back deck of 178 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:26.000 her house and it was standing in the woodline looking 179 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:28.639 at her. So I went over there and she showed 180 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:30.399 me where she had seen it, and we did a 181 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:33.919 little re enactment to try to figure out how big 182 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:38.000 the bigfoot was. And I'm pretty sure she was telling 183 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:40.159 me the truth, where you know, everything kind of added 184 00:09:40.200 --> 00:09:43.919 up what she had told me. So anyways, we used 185 00:09:44.200 --> 00:09:47.320 Eboney Rose Farms as a base camp for the research. 186 00:09:47.519 --> 00:09:50.559 Both weekends I was there, and the first day we 187 00:09:50.600 --> 00:09:53.159 went out, there was four of us that went there 188 00:09:53.200 --> 00:09:55.159 was because I didn't really know the area. So I 189 00:09:55.240 --> 00:09:58.679 was using this young man that was dating one of 190 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:02.639 the girls as my guide, and she went and her 191 00:10:02.679 --> 00:10:06.960 mother went, and we were into like a kind of 192 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:10.279 a swampy area where we started out, and the young 193 00:10:10.320 --> 00:10:12.000 man and I went down near the swamp and they 194 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:14.919 stayed up kind of up on the higher ground. Well, 195 00:10:14.919 --> 00:10:16.360 we were down there for a little while and we 196 00:10:16.360 --> 00:10:18.240 were listening, and we did a couple of calls to 197 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:20.799 see if we could get an answer back, and we 198 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:23.120 thought we heard something, but it was quite a ways off, 199 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:27.080 and while we were standing there, I heard somebody walking 200 00:10:27.159 --> 00:10:29.600 behind us, so I thought it was one of the 201 00:10:29.600 --> 00:10:31.720 young ladies was walking down to see us, or was 202 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:35.559 just walking around and making noise, so I didn't think 203 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:37.840 too much of it. So when we went back up 204 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:39.799 and met back up with the two young ladies, I said, well, 205 00:10:39.799 --> 00:10:41.639 did you guys start coming down do you want did 206 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:43.399 you want something? And they're like, we didn't move from 207 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:45.559 the spot we thought you were coming back up the hill, 208 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:51.759 So something walked between our two groups. The next morning 209 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:54.559 we followed up on it and we did find what 210 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:57.360 looked like some tracks, but it was you know, in 211 00:10:57.399 --> 00:11:01.039 the the leave debris and ranch bree so it wasn't 212 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:03.759 anything solid, but you could see where something had definitely 213 00:11:03.799 --> 00:11:07.320 moved down through there. And we did find some scat 214 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:10.720 further up the trail that looked like it could have 215 00:11:10.759 --> 00:11:15.159 been sasquash scat. It had pieces of fur in it 216 00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:17.639 and a few pieces of a small bone and some 217 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:20.039 other things in it, so whatever it was, it was carnivore. 218 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:23.720 It had eaten something, some kind of an animal, and 219 00:11:23.759 --> 00:11:28.519 we had the know had seen that. So anyway, I 220 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:31.679 asked the young gentleman if there was any way we 221 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:33.919 could get further down on the other side of the swamp, 222 00:11:34.879 --> 00:11:36.840 and he said, yes, there's an access road that goes 223 00:11:36.879 --> 00:11:41.559 down through the state land and there's you know, a 224 00:11:41.559 --> 00:11:43.200 little pond back in there on the other side of 225 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:46.240 where the swamp is. So we went back up to 226 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:48.480 the house and we told the owners what we were 227 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:50.879 going to do. And by this point, the young lady 228 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:54.200 that had had the sighting was was home and she 229 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:57.159 wanted to go with us. So her mother told us, well, 230 00:11:57.200 --> 00:12:00.320 sure you can go with us with them, but do 231 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:04.879 whatever Dean tells you to do, okay, So don't screw around, 232 00:12:04.919 --> 00:12:08.519 you know, be polite and be you know, well behaved, 233 00:12:08.519 --> 00:12:11.080 and you can go. So she agreed to that, so 234 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:12.960 we went up there. So this time we had the 235 00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:17.000 same group plus her. So again her and I and 236 00:12:17.039 --> 00:12:21.000 the young gentleman it was kind of my guide. We 237 00:12:21.039 --> 00:12:23.320 went down near the pond while the other group stayed 238 00:12:23.360 --> 00:12:27.679 back a little ways. So while we were down by 239 00:12:27.679 --> 00:12:30.240 the pond, we did a couple of calls, and we 240 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:32.639 could hear some rustling around in the brush, but we 241 00:12:32.679 --> 00:12:37.759 couldn't see anything. So I told the young gentleman, so, 242 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:40.159 why don't you go get a stick and go up 243 00:12:40.159 --> 00:12:42.080 a little ways and find a tree and do a 244 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:44.919 couple of wood knocks and see if maybe that'll get 245 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:47.759 some response for them. And I told the young lady 246 00:12:47.799 --> 00:12:50.480 to go with him, So I stayed down by the 247 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:52.759 water and they went up and they did a couple 248 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:57.240 of wood knocks. Well, we almost immediately got a response, 249 00:12:58.240 --> 00:13:02.879 and I guess I didn't give the enough instructions that 250 00:13:02.960 --> 00:13:04.559 they had to be quiet, because as soon as they 251 00:13:04.600 --> 00:13:06.399 heard the wood knocking, they're like, did you hear that? 252 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:07.919 Did you hear that? I could hear them down by 253 00:13:07.960 --> 00:13:10.639 the pond talking to each other, So they come running 254 00:13:10.679 --> 00:13:12.440 down there and they're like, did you hear that? Means 255 00:13:12.480 --> 00:13:13.799 you hear that? I go, yeah, I heard it, but 256 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:16.840 we're probably done for the night, because the whole idea 257 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:19.039 of this is to make them think we're another bigfoot. 258 00:13:19.039 --> 00:13:21.799 And I says, you know, by you talking, we've probably 259 00:13:21.840 --> 00:13:25.480 alerted them that were people. And it started to drizzle 260 00:13:25.559 --> 00:13:27.879 rain a little bit, so I was kind of thinking 261 00:13:27.919 --> 00:13:31.200 about getting out of there anyway, so we decided to 262 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:34.080 call it quit. So we started walking back towards where 263 00:13:34.120 --> 00:13:36.440 the trucks were. Now, like I said, it was rain 264 00:13:36.480 --> 00:13:38.200 and so it was an overcast night, so there was 265 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:41.360 like no light, you know, the moon was not shining, 266 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:43.240 and the start you couldn't have any star or anything 267 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:46.360 through the clouds. So it was pretty darn dark. So 268 00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:51.399 we're walking up the hill and the young gentleman says, 269 00:13:51.440 --> 00:13:53.200 I'll go first because I know where I'm going. You 270 00:13:53.240 --> 00:13:57.159 guys follow me. So I was walking behind him, and 271 00:13:57.200 --> 00:14:00.360 the young lady was standing walking next to me, and 272 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:02.120 she leans into me and she goes, boy, it is 273 00:14:02.200 --> 00:14:04.080 kind of hard to walk here in the dark, isn't it? 274 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:06.759 And she no more and got those words out of 275 00:14:06.799 --> 00:14:09.600 her mouth. When we got another woodknock, and it was 276 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:12.600 right on top of us. We couldn't see anything as 277 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:14.960 it being so dark, but I was guessing the thing 278 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:17.120 was less than the Bigfoot was less than fifty yards 279 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:21.080 away from this. It was close, and I think every 280 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:25.960 paranormal investigator has had this experience. I call it a 281 00:14:25.960 --> 00:14:29.720 Scooby Doo moment. She was grabbing handfuls of me and 282 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:31.759 trying to climb right up on my backs. And she 283 00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:34.240 was screaming, it's right over there, It's right over there. 284 00:14:34.919 --> 00:14:37.960 And I started laughing and I'm like, yeah, it's right 285 00:14:38.000 --> 00:14:39.919 over there. I said. But it's not going to hurt you. 286 00:14:40.399 --> 00:14:42.320 I said, if it wanted to hurt you, it would have. 287 00:14:42.600 --> 00:14:45.120 I says, it's just letting you know, Hey, this is 288 00:14:45.159 --> 00:14:48.720 my spot. You guys need to go. So we got 289 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:52.000 back to the farm and I was telling her mom, 290 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:53.879 I'm about to you know what happened. And her mom 291 00:14:53.919 --> 00:14:56.440 started laughing and she's like, you're not as tough as 292 00:14:56.440 --> 00:15:00.960 you think you are, you to her daughter. And so 293 00:15:01.039 --> 00:15:05.039 that was that was pretty cool experience. The young lady 294 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:06.720 and I got along real well in the family and 295 00:15:06.919 --> 00:15:10.519 we kind of bonded. And the young lady graduated two 296 00:15:10.600 --> 00:15:13.240 years ago from college and she asked her mom if 297 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:16.639 she can invite me to the graduation party, which they 298 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:20.879 had a bonfire and they had a bunch of her 299 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:24.480 friends from college and her family were all there. And 300 00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:27.279 so anyways, the young people, you know, they did what 301 00:15:27.320 --> 00:15:29.519 they were going to do at a graduation party. They had, 302 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:31.360 you know, enough to drink and everything, and so they 303 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:34.320 kind of wandered off and went back to their tentcer 304 00:15:34.759 --> 00:15:37.519 their camps wherever they were going, and the only people 305 00:15:37.559 --> 00:15:41.559 left at the fire or myself and her parents and 306 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:46.039 so oh, probably about eleven eleven thirty, we heard a 307 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:49.440 pack of coyotes and they sounded like they had something down. 308 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:53.080 They had a successful hunt. They had taken down a 309 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:56.720 deer or something. And they sounded like they were pretty close, 310 00:15:58.120 --> 00:16:00.080 but you know, not real real close, but you know, 311 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:03.879 fairly close to where we were. So anything's everything quieted down. 312 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:06.399 So I said, well, they're feeding, that's what they're doing. Now. 313 00:16:06.440 --> 00:16:08.240 They got they killed whatever they were going to kill, 314 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:12.399 and now they're feeding. So about fifteen to twenty minutes later, 315 00:16:13.320 --> 00:16:16.639 we heard a bigfoot aggressive howl. I mean a big one. 316 00:16:16.679 --> 00:16:21.720 I mean it was like just a screaming, aggressive, growley howl. 317 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:26.120 And the two parents that were set at the fire 318 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:28.519 with me, they had they jumped up and they goes 319 00:16:28.559 --> 00:16:30.799 that I think that was and yeah, I said, that's 320 00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:33.519 a bigfoot cowl. And I said, you know, what else 321 00:16:33.639 --> 00:16:34.960 just happened? And they're like what And I go to 322 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:38.919 the coyotes, he's just lost their dinner and they started laughing. 323 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:41.240 I go, yeah, this sounds like it came right from 324 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:43.759 the same spot. I says, he's chasing them off and 325 00:16:43.799 --> 00:16:45.399 he's going to take what he wants, so they're killing 326 00:16:46.600 --> 00:16:51.600 and uh, we just you know, we just had a 327 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:53.720 good time. You know, we listened for a while longer, 328 00:16:53.720 --> 00:16:58.120 but everything was was pretty silent. But over at my 329 00:16:58.200 --> 00:17:02.600 research camp, I've I've gotten lots of responses back there. 330 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:06.599 I've gotten howls, I've gotten wood knocks. I had one 331 00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:08.880 come by the camp one night while I was sleeping 332 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:12.440 and slapped the side of the camp, So I know 333 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:16.799 they're still in there. They haven't moved off. There's still 334 00:17:16.799 --> 00:17:19.880 at least they They come through there occasionally. Because I've 335 00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:23.839 had encounters with them. I've been gifting them back there, 336 00:17:24.400 --> 00:17:26.400 bringing them you know, cookies and things like that, and 337 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:28.680 I have a spot where I leave them, and I 338 00:17:28.680 --> 00:17:30.480 can always tell if they take him or some other 339 00:17:30.519 --> 00:17:33.640 animal took them, because when they take them, they take 340 00:17:33.640 --> 00:17:36.920 the whole package. If something else gets in them, they 341 00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:40.519 eat it right there and leave the wrappers. But the Bigfoot, 342 00:17:40.519 --> 00:17:42.279 they'll they'll take the whole thing. They'll take the whole 343 00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:44.960 package of cookies or the candie bars or whatever I 344 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:48.640 leave there for them. I have a grandson that lives 345 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:51.119 down in South Carolina, and he came up to visit 346 00:17:51.160 --> 00:17:53.200 me for a couple of weeks, and I took him 347 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:56.039 back to the camp to go camping. And I had 348 00:17:56.039 --> 00:18:01.240 another gentleman that I had invited back because he likes 349 00:18:01.279 --> 00:18:03.000 coming back there and hanging out when I'm there, so 350 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:04.880 I invited him to come too, and I told him, Hey, 351 00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:06.279 I'm going to throw some hot dogs on the grill 352 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:08.240 and Jason and I are going to have a fire, 353 00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:11.480 you know, come on back. So we were there for 354 00:18:11.480 --> 00:18:14.039 a little while, and I went off to use the 355 00:18:14.039 --> 00:18:17.200 little boy's tree, and I thought I heard something walk 356 00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:20.759 by me. But I wasn't thinking bigfoot. I don't have 357 00:18:20.799 --> 00:18:22.720 big quist stuck on the brain where I every little 358 00:18:22.759 --> 00:18:25.680 noise I hear I think is a big foot. I 359 00:18:25.680 --> 00:18:27.839 figured out it could be a deer, could be something else, 360 00:18:27.880 --> 00:18:30.519 so I wasn't really thinking too much about it. So 361 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:34.000 I went back to the camp and I got the 362 00:18:34.039 --> 00:18:37.079 hot dog started, and my grandson was hanging out listening 363 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:38.799 to his iPod or whatever they call that thing with 364 00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:42.319 the earphones, and all of a sudden I heard some 365 00:18:42.319 --> 00:18:46.640 wood knocking and I roused him. I was, hey, take 366 00:18:46.839 --> 00:18:49.119 take the earphones off. You're going to want to hear this. 367 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:52.319 So he did, and we could hear the wood knock 368 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:55.880 kept repeating. So we walked away from the camp, probably 369 00:18:56.200 --> 00:18:58.599 a couple of hundred yards, and we were standing on 370 00:18:58.640 --> 00:19:00.680 the edge of the woods towards the field and it 371 00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:02.799 sounded like the wood knocking was coming from the other 372 00:19:02.839 --> 00:19:05.880 side of the field. So we were standing there and 373 00:19:05.960 --> 00:19:10.400 we were listening to that, and my friend showed up. 374 00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:12.839 He pulled in with his jeep and the wood knocking stopped. 375 00:19:13.640 --> 00:19:15.640 So he got out of the jeep and he says, 376 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:17.039 what are you guys doing And I told him, I said, 377 00:19:17.240 --> 00:19:19.839 we're hearing wood knocking back here. He goes, really, and 378 00:19:19.839 --> 00:19:21.680 we're like yeah. So he came over and stood with us, 379 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:23.839 and we probably stood there for fifteen twenty minutes and 380 00:19:24.319 --> 00:19:28.559 we didn't hear anything else. So we started to go 381 00:19:28.640 --> 00:19:30.400 back to the camp to you know, have our hot 382 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:35.759 dogs and everything, and so he said which tree we 383 00:19:35.839 --> 00:19:38.000 use and I kind of laughed. I said, just anyone 384 00:19:38.079 --> 00:19:41.039 over there. So he walked away to go to the tree, 385 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:43.920 and all of a sudden, bang, we had a wood 386 00:19:43.960 --> 00:19:46.119 knock and it was real close. It was near the 387 00:19:46.160 --> 00:19:49.920 camp he come running around the camp. He goes, you 388 00:19:49.960 --> 00:19:51.519 didn't do that, did you? And I'm like, no, I've 389 00:19:51.519 --> 00:19:53.359 been standing right here next to the girl. I didn't 390 00:19:53.400 --> 00:19:56.039 do anything. And he's like, holy cow. He goes, that 391 00:19:56.160 --> 00:20:00.359 was close, and I'm like, yep. So I walked over 392 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:02.400 towards where I said, must have been this tree over here. 393 00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:04.880 So I started to walk kind of towards that tree, 394 00:20:05.039 --> 00:20:07.400 and I looked down on the ground, and on the 395 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:10.960 ground just a little ways off the corner of the 396 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:15.599 camp were like a little circle, like oval shape, or 397 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:20.240 four corn cobs and seven little potatoes. And I know 398 00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:22.680 they weren't there before. They weren't there when we got 399 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:27.119 to the camp, So I think that they were gifted 400 00:20:27.160 --> 00:20:31.039 me back. And I'm thinking maybe that's what the whole 401 00:20:31.039 --> 00:20:32.920