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<v Speaker 2>I'm Jon Favreau and I'm Alex Wagner.

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<v Speaker 1>Two weeks in a row.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby. You know, I'm really glad when you said I

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<v Speaker 2>want to do a special NIXT focused episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Of todd that is what I said.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, who will even know where we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be, But it turns out very fortuitous. Happy to

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<v Speaker 2>just talk about the NIXT on this podcast. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>inviting me, John, Congratulations. That was something to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I had. I had some excellent timing because I put

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<v Speaker 1>the boys to bed, and then I went downstairs and

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<v Speaker 1>I turned the game on at the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter.

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<v Speaker 2>When the runt pussy with your Pacific Standard time.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's watching sports West Coast time. Not that I

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<v Speaker 1>ever do, because I have two young children.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but is the best it is the It's

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<v Speaker 2>You're so lucky. I had put my I let them

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<v Speaker 2>stay up a little bit late. And we saw the

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<v Speaker 2>first quarter and it was like, we can turn this

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<v Speaker 2>off now. They were like My eight year old started

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<v Speaker 2>like kind of crying and he was like, I hate

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<v Speaker 2>the next and I said, you need to manifest positivity

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<v Speaker 2>and put them to bed, and then they he woke

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<v Speaker 2>me up at seven o'clock. I know, I slept in

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<v Speaker 2>and he was like, momy one and then we watched Hylight.

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<v Speaker 1>I was slightly concerned that Trump had cursed them for

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the series, but it turns out it's

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<v Speaker 1>just about him actually physically being there.

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<v Speaker 2>True. And also, smart Knicks fans burned a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>stage in front of the garden yesterday because we know

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<v Speaker 2>how to clear bad collaborations.

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<v Speaker 1>Clear the Trump stink out of vent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it hangs in the air, especially in this weather.

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<v Speaker 1>But listen, well, there we go, there we go.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. Thanks for joining us. Make sure to subscribe

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<v Speaker 1>We got lots to talk about on today's show. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about Trump saying we're on the verge

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<v Speaker 1>of a deal with Iran for the thirty ninth time

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<v Speaker 1>since the war began a little over one hundred days ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows this could be the big one. We'll also

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<v Speaker 1>cover the president's latest inflation gaff spoiler he loves it,

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<v Speaker 1>and his attempt to quiet Republican fure over Bill Poulty

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<v Speaker 1>by announcing his long term pick for DNI. There's also

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<v Speaker 1>a new reporting that the knives are out in trump Land,

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<v Speaker 1>which is perfectly illustrated by an explosive news story from

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<v Speaker 1>Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan about how these morons bumble

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<v Speaker 1>their way through the Epstein crisis. And finally you will

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<v Speaker 1>hear my conversation with our pal Ron Brownstein, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best political analysts out there, about the mid term

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<v Speaker 1>state of play, his take on the gram Platner saga,

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<v Speaker 1>the House map, the Senate map, and much more. But

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<v Speaker 2>Friends, tell five friends, what's that? Tell five friends?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell five friends. I like that. Thank you, Alex, wh

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<v Speaker 1>I go for one.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't clip your own wings?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? I want five friends from everyone here we go?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Alex, stop me if you've heard this one

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<v Speaker 1>before the ceasefire with iron broke down, missiles started flying again.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump threatened to bomb the shit out of the entire country,

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<v Speaker 1>and then at the last minute announced with great fanfare

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<v Speaker 1>that he's calling off the strikes because a deal is

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<v Speaker 1>finally at hand. Is this an episode from six we

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, three weeks ago, last week, next week, ten

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<v Speaker 1>weeks from now, all of the above?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, John, I've come to the Chris Nolan theory

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<v Speaker 2>of time that it's a dimension and so it's always happening.

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<v Speaker 2>We're always at war and a deal is always imminent.

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<v Speaker 2>We're always at war with its omnipresent. We live in

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<v Speaker 2>the dimension of it. Yeah, we're never not about it

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<v Speaker 2>will go on forever it has been happens.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it is just it's we're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this for eternity, Like it's like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the latest almost deal with Iran, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll talk about the inflation gaff and then we're off.

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<v Speaker 2>I I think I've been thinking a lot about this,

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<v Speaker 2>and I wonder if it's time for the press to

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<v Speaker 2>stop asking him anything about the war, because it's so

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<v Speaker 2>it's like asking like perhaps a mentally ill person about

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<v Speaker 2>stock tips, Like there's no use in doing that. They'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell you some things.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I will. I will say he's pretty good at

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<v Speaker 1>that because of all the insider information which he trades

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<v Speaker 1>off of one. Yeah, that's he's quite quite adept at

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<v Speaker 1>doing that. So that the latest US strikes hit targets

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<v Speaker 1>across Iran, including apparently drinking water infrastructure, which would likely

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<v Speaker 1>be a war crime. And after Trump threatened to take

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<v Speaker 1>carg Island and assume quote total control of Iran's oil,

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<v Speaker 1>he backed down with the post claiming quote final points

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<v Speaker 1>have been in both concept and great detail approved by

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<v Speaker 1>all parties involved, and then listed ten countries. Iran was

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<v Speaker 1>not one of them. As I mentioned CNN has tallied

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<v Speaker 1>this up for US. It's the at least the thirty

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<v Speaker 1>ninth time that Trump has claimed the deal is imminent.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, he did take some questions on the

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<v Speaker 1>deal in the oval, but like you said, it was

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<v Speaker 1>all the same questions and all the same crazy answers.

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<v Speaker 1>We thought it was much more interesting to play a

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<v Speaker 1>super cut from his his colent to Fox and Friends

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<v Speaker 1>this morning, between when he threatened to destroy the country

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<v Speaker 1>and he announced an almost deal. He was he was

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<v Speaker 1>there to ostensibly discuss Iran, but that only barely happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Here are some of the highlights.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'd like to get a deal now, less

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<v Speaker 3>than three or four weeks ago, because you know, once

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<v Speaker 3>you do this, it's I just you could just go

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<v Speaker 3>a step further. But I don't know that America has

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<v Speaker 3>the appetite to do what I would really much prefer doing.

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<v Speaker 3>But we were in Vietnam nineteen years. If it were me,

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<v Speaker 3>I would have had that war done in three months.

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<v Speaker 3>But we did great. In twenty twenty, I was a

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<v Speaker 3>rigged election and you saw it in California. Very interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>If I could just havevert he said, all of a sudden, this, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>we have a surprise. Steve Hilton won. But it's a

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<v Speaker 3>rigged election. But just go back, you know, but let's

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<v Speaker 3>get back. Let's get back. I was. I just want

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<v Speaker 3>to say to the public, it's a rigged election. We

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<v Speaker 3>need to save America Act, period, got it. Okay, let's

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<v Speaker 3>get back to Iran much simpler. Iron is very good

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<v Speaker 3>at publicity, but they're not good at fighting. So I

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<v Speaker 3>took a look, and I must tell you, if they

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<v Speaker 3>can't believe the press, they get it, they can't even

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<v Speaker 3>believe it. And they told me, they said, it's amazing

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<v Speaker 3>how well we're doing in the papers. We're not doing

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<v Speaker 3>so well. They're negotiating with us to make a deal.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like they did an editorial today about we're not

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<v Speaker 3>hitting them hard enough. I mean, it's just not hitting

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<v Speaker 3>them hard enough. We dropped two hundred and fifty million

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<v Speaker 3>dollars worth of bombs on them last night. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>the whole thing is crazy. Part of the problem is

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<v Speaker 3>that they read the fake news. I mean, because Fox

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<v Speaker 3>is greater. But all the anchors on Fox have been fantastic,

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<v Speaker 3>from Sean to Jesse Laura. I mean, they've all been great. Everybody,

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<v Speaker 3>every single anchor it's been great. You guys have been amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like he's locked in.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh dude, okay, I mean, like, where do we even

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<v Speaker 2>begin with us? First of all, there's so many things

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<v Speaker 2>to call attention to the fact that he had to

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of all of this go off on

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty election, and Brian kill Meat is like,

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<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't have brought that up. I shouldn't have brought

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<v Speaker 1>And he says, Iran, it's my fault. Though, it's my

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<v Speaker 1>fault I took us off topic, and then Trump says.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get back to Iran, a much simpler situation. He

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like an old, angry person who's not yet even

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<v Speaker 2>stood up from bed.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>He has that kind of the throaty congestion of someone

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<v Speaker 2>who's just ranting from bed, like and it's just obviously

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<v Speaker 2>it's just association at this point, just word salads. None

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<v Speaker 2>of it makes sense. The fact that he keeps bringing

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<v Speaker 2>up Vietnam as like a comparison should not make any

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<v Speaker 2>member of the American public feel assured that they have

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<v Speaker 2>their hands on the wheel here, that they got their

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<v Speaker 2>arms around this thing. Well, look at Vietnam that took

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<v Speaker 2>so long. You know, dude, we don't want to do

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<v Speaker 2>that again.

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<v Speaker 1>Also his whole thing about you know, I do what

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do, but the American people might not

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<v Speaker 1>have the stomach for it. Like he's like, he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to do this big war. He wants to keep going

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<v Speaker 1>with the war. He wants to just he wants he

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<v Speaker 1>wants more war, harder war.

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<v Speaker 2>His message. At one point, he's pressed to give his

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<v Speaker 2>message to the Iranian people, and Trump says, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is a quote. My message to the Iranian people is

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<v Speaker 2>they're afraid because they have no guns and the other

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<v Speaker 2>side has guns. That's not a message to the Iranian people.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think is that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is not a message to the Every time somebody's asked

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<v Speaker 1>about this whole war, though, he confuses it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's like, what about the Iranian people, And he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>even though that was, uh, you know, that was one

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<v Speaker 2>I also love the new that the Iranian regime that

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<v Speaker 2>Moshtaba Aremini, who has not been seen in public since

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<v Speaker 2>how well we're doing in the papers.

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<v Speaker 2>That's I grabbed the New York Times here the other

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<v Speaker 2>That was a great game, mister president. He also starts

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<v Speaker 2>Tienaman Square who mowed down citizens, at which point he's

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<v Speaker 2>cut off and they're like, we only have a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>mister president. They literally cut him off on Fox and

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<v Speaker 2>Fronts because he's so out of Can I say, though, seriously, John,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean because you mentioned and I think very importantly,

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<v Speaker 2>and he certainly wasn't being asked about this on the

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<v Speaker 2>Fox and Fronts broadcast. They may have bombed water infrastructure,

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<v Speaker 2>which would be a war crime, and the story of

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<v Speaker 2>whenever this ends or maybe it never ends because time

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<v Speaker 2>is a dimension, but when it theoretically comes to a conclusion,

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<v Speaker 2>the story of American war crimes in Iran will live

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<v Speaker 2>with us as our legacy for decades. And we on

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<v Speaker 2>Runaway Country had talked to a retired Master sergeant at

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<v Speaker 2>the what is it called the Civilian Protection Center of Excellence,

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<v Speaker 2>which was a department in the DoD which was set

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<v Speaker 2>up to mitigate and prevent civilian deaths like, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>bombing a girls' school or bombing water infrastructure, and Pete

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<v Speaker 2>Hegseth wrote in and dismantled it effectively like civilian deaths

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<v Speaker 2>are not beside the point. I mean, I think terrorizing people,

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<v Speaker 2>especially brown people the world over is the point. And we,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this administration owns these civilian deaths, and we

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<v Speaker 2>much opacity with regards to this roar, even as it

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<v Speaker 2>concerns American deaths, and we have a free press. But

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<v Speaker 2>at some point the numbers are going to come out

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<v Speaker 2>and Donald Trump will own every single one of those

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<v Speaker 2>deaths for a deal that looks like it will be

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<v Speaker 2>nothing on par with the JCPOI.

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<v Speaker 1>Also one thing he said there, And the clip that

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<v Speaker 1>Street Journal editorial board, saying that he's not bombing hard enough,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not doing enough right because they're hawks over there.

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<v Speaker 1>He also calls them, He's like, I know that you

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<v Speaker 1>guys own them, but they're trash, he said to the

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<v Speaker 1>Fox people, referring to Murdoch, and he's like, you, what

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<v Speaker 1>do they want from me? We just dropped two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty million dollars worth of bombs on them last night.

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<v Speaker 1>So now he is bragging to the American people about

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<v Speaker 1>using their tax dollars to drop bombs on Iran that

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<v Speaker 1>hit water infrastructure that could potentially cause civilian death. So

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<v Speaker 1>now he's telling people's like, hey, you want for me?

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<v Speaker 1>I spent your money killing people in Iran for no

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<v Speaker 1>reason last night.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the first time we've also gotten any kind of

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<v Speaker 2>price tag from him. I mean, it's so embarrassing that

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<v Speaker 2>this is like the braggadocio about killing civilians is the

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<v Speaker 2>only way we get some transparency about the from this

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<v Speaker 2>White House, about what the damage and the sort of

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<v Speaker 2>collateral on the table is. It's it's like horrifying you know.

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<v Speaker 1>The question is you know, we'll we'll will Lucy yank

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<v Speaker 1>the football away yet again, or is this finally Charlie

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<v Speaker 1>Brown's moment. It seems like the it's still just a

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<v Speaker 1>memorandum of understanding. So that's Trump said that in the oval,

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<v Speaker 1>which means it's the sort of the same deal as

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<v Speaker 1>before deal. The Israelis are apparently surprised and they said

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<v Speaker 1>they're not part of this deal at all. So no

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<v Speaker 1>matter what the deal is, it's not it's not solving

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<v Speaker 1>the conflict between Israel and Lebanon. Trump said that the

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<v Speaker 1>Ayatola has agreed already, Aron is not saying that there's

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<v Speaker 1>an Arounia News agency said there's a high chancement the

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<v Speaker 1>agreement will be approved, so like, you know, maybe we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get there, but it feels like we're right

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<v Speaker 1>back to if it does get approved. What it is

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<v Speaker 1>is uh the end of the naval blockade, uh reopening

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<v Speaker 1>of the straight and then kicking all the nuclear issues

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<v Speaker 1>down the road for more negotiations that I'm sure will

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<v Speaker 1>not go anywhere else, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't And there's there's definitely going to be some

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<v Speaker 2>sweetening to the tune of I mean Marco Rubio on

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<v Speaker 2>the Hill said they were not going to trade sanctions

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<v Speaker 2>relief for reopening the Straight. But and Nahaltuzi has like

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<v Speaker 2>a breakdown of this in Politico today. There's definitely ways

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<v Speaker 2>that they can make sure money flows to Iran basically

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<v Speaker 2>to fill back up the coffers and pay them for

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<v Speaker 2>reopening pay them to reopen the Straight. We are going

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<v Speaker 2>to buy any kind of resolution that happens here. We

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<v Speaker 2>may not know about it as American taxpayers, but it

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<v Speaker 2>is certainly there is going to be a shell game

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<v Speaker 2>going on, uh inside the the bowels of the federal

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<v Speaker 2>government to ensure that money goes to the Iranian regime,

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<v Speaker 2>because otherwise why would they do any of this?

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<v Speaker 1>No, of course, and what happens, what will happen is

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<v Speaker 1>some intrepid reporters will find out what the shell game

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<v Speaker 1>is and report it in a in a great story,

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<v Speaker 1>and then someone asked the White House ablo out it,

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<v Speaker 1>and they'll basically say, fuck you, fake news, and then

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<v Speaker 1>everyone will go on to the next thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But but don't don't take it from us, take it

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<v Speaker 2>from Brian Kilmead who said, mister President, you're like an

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<v Speaker 2>anaconda squeezing the life that was out of the enemy,

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<v Speaker 2>slowly squeezing them to death. He said it like four times.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was really happy with his analogy, and he

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<v Speaker 1>just came He was like, but did.

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<v Speaker 2>You hear the anaconda trying to make it work? Shopping it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Before we move on, what did you make of

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<v Speaker 1>his rant about the California election? Did you did you

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<v Speaker 1>realize that Steve Hilton won because Donald Trump complained about

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<v Speaker 1>Spencer Pratt losing?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? What do you say about Spencer Brad? He was like,

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<v Speaker 2>the kid got shafted.

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<v Speaker 1>He got shafted. But then I said something. I said something,

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<v Speaker 1>and now now we got Steve Hilton. Now he made

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<v Speaker 1>it through.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was happening to Steve Hilton too, but now

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it's good that someone's got their eyes

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<v Speaker 2>on California. Guys. We know how you operate, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>a complicated you know. Con Right, you think, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>the gubernatorial race matters more, But no, what this is

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<v Speaker 2>is about singular and discreete races that are stolen for

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<v Speaker 2>no apparent reason but just to throw you off the scent.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's about It's about the LA mayor, the incumbent

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<v Speaker 1>who much wanted to face Spencer Pratt much more than

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<v Speaker 1>she wanted to face a progressive challenger, and yet did

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<v Speaker 1>her best to rig the election so that she could

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<v Speaker 1>get that progressive challenger and not Spencer Pratt.

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<v Speaker 2>That is, yeah, a double cross of a double cross,

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<v Speaker 2>John Untangle, that cat's cradle, buddy, Man, these people, but Lake,

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<v Speaker 2>can I just say, yeah, the election fraud and going

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<v Speaker 2>back to twenty twenty is like so much more animates

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<v Speaker 2>this dude than actually Iran. I mean, he's both incompetent

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<v Speaker 2>and incoherent on Iran, but he's also bored of it,

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<v Speaker 2>Like he doesn't really have like he would much rather,

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to talk about the Same America Act. He

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<v Speaker 2>wants to talk about raw power and the stealing of

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<v Speaker 2>elections and getting his election deniers, you know, having them

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<v Speaker 2>act with the full force of the federal government. That's

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<v Speaker 4>Up in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>year high for the third straight month, with energy prices

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<v Speaker 1>up twenty four percent from a year ago. Data on

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<v Speaker 1>wholesale inflation released Thursday morning put that measure at its

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<v Speaker 1>high since late twenty twenty two. Trump, of course, has

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<v Speaker 1>delivered an epic run of gafs on the topic of

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<v Speaker 1>how much people's financial struggles are weighing on him. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>a few highlights to jog your memory.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you believe the price of oil and gas will

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<v Speaker 4>be lower before the midterm elections?

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<v Speaker 3>I hope so. I mean I think shelly could be.

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<v Speaker 3>It could be the same or maybe a little bit higher.

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<v Speaker 3>I've thought that uprising.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't much higher.

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<v Speaker 5>I look today, it's like at one hundred and two,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's a very small price to pay for getting

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<v Speaker 5>rid of a nuclear weapon from people that are really

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<v Speaker 5>mentally deranged affordabilities, a hoax that was started by Democrats.

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<v Speaker 2>Longa wile America continue to see the high gap tight, well,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not very high.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't think about American financial situation. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think about anybody. I think about one thing. We could

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<v Speaker 3>not let Iran have a nuclear aprodential.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't care about the midtime. So what happened last

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<v Speaker 5>night that was the prelude to the midtim s.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, good news, we have a new contender for the crown.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what Trump said on Wednesday in response to a

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<v Speaker 1>question about the latest inflation data.

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<v Speaker 4>Service to President about the latest inflation number which came out.

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<v Speaker 6>This morning, could that be a no? I love it?

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<v Speaker 6>You know what, I really love.

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<v Speaker 5>I love the inflation.

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<v Speaker 6>You know why?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I love the inflation. He loves the inflation. God.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish ta goold pan to other faces in the room.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that's good? Yeah, I just can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone in the pool just go to Susie Wiles's face

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<v Speaker 2>when this is being said, Scott Vessant, where I love

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<v Speaker 2>the inflation. I mean, this is the downside John, of

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<v Speaker 2>having a malignant narcissist in office, Like they can't summon

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<v Speaker 2>empathy when empathy is the prerequisite from staving off the

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<v Speaker 2>political fallout, from stopping the bleeding. Here, like the war

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<v Speaker 2>is so catastrophically out of Trump's hands to a certain

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<v Speaker 2>degree because he refuses to engage in diplomacy and doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>really give a shit, and he's also an idiot. But like,

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<v Speaker 2>if he's going to try and manage the political reality

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<v Speaker 2>that he and his party are facing, you got to

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<v Speaker 2>start the sentence with empathy. And I feel your pain,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know this economy is bad and it's tough

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<v Speaker 2>to be a working class American. But X Y and

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<v Speaker 2>Z about Iran and the stability of the globe or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But he is constitutionally unable to summon to even pretend.

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<v Speaker 2>Not only as he constitutionally unable to pretend to be empathy,

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<v Speaker 2>he's the opposite. He's digging the knife in further.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton's message was I feel your pain. Donald Trump's messages,

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<v Speaker 1>I cause your pain.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm fucking glad I did it.

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<v Speaker 1>And tough shit, that's me. I cause your pain.

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<v Speaker 2>You and your dumb cars, you and your dumb desire

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<v Speaker 2>to put food on the table. Don't talk to me

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<v Speaker 2>about health care. I need another million from my ballroom.

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<v Speaker 1>Now for my money. I still think the reigning champ

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<v Speaker 1>is I don't care, but I don't think about americans

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<v Speaker 1>financial situation at all. It's I don know.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the inflation.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it's funny because he uses the article in front

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<v Speaker 1>of it, right, I love the inflation, so that makes

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<v Speaker 1>it a little funnier.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, no, he says, it's actually the full quote

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<v Speaker 2>is so good. You know what I really love. I

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<v Speaker 2>love the inflation you could argue right like he's like, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>hold it, He's tease it up. He's like, I'm about

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<v Speaker 2>to you know what, I really love the inflation like

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<v Speaker 2>it's so sedist. It honestly, I don't think about American's

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<v Speaker 2>financial situations is part of a bigger question. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not excusing it at all. I think it like it

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<v Speaker 2>was a disastrous quote. But this is psychotic. This is

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<v Speaker 2>someone who's like, you like the pain, how about a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what?

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<v Speaker 2>I really like fucking over the American public.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always dangerous to do this, But I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to think of like what what was he actually trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do there? And I think what he in his

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<v Speaker 1>in his adult, very old mind, he was thinking, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, this data it's going to be great because

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as the war's over, this inflation is going

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<v Speaker 1>to come right down and then I'm going to take

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<v Speaker 1>all this credit for inflation falling. So I love the inflation, like.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a little bit like still doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't no, of course not of course.

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<v Speaker 2>Not because he's talking about ongoing inflation.

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<v Speaker 1>It still just doesn't Wait, he doesn't know. He also

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't know what inflation is really, Yes, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I just say also, I don't moonlight as a

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<v Speaker 2>petroleum engineer, but I will for this podcast. Yes, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I try and come. I try and come prepared. Like

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<v Speaker 2>the gas praises are not going down, even if the

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<v Speaker 2>Strait of Hormones opens back up tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>No, like this is baked. This is where we're I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know.

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<v Speaker 2>The Washington Post is talking about the reality of these

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<v Speaker 2>like ships getting through back through the street. They're like

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<v Speaker 2>even the hundreds of fully loaded tankers that have idled

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<v Speaker 2>in the strait since last February will not be able

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<v Speaker 2>to quickly move their cargo. Vessels are now so coated

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<v Speaker 2>with barnacles that teams of divers will need to be

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<v Speaker 2>dispatched to clean them. I didn't know that this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is not just going to be an issue the issue

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<v Speaker 1>in the midterms. This is going to be an issue

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<v Speaker 1>for jd Vance in the Republican primary and whoever decides

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<v Speaker 1>to run against him from outside the administration. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is like by by act by twenty twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>it won't maybe it won't be hopefully it won't be

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<v Speaker 1>as much of an issue. But like twenty twenty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>when the primaries are happening. Yeah, one hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Percent, You're so right to say that. That is like

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<v Speaker 2>such a you're so smart about this, but that is

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<v Speaker 2>so true, like because the I mean again, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>a trolley engineer, but the refineries and the production facilities

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<v Speaker 2>can take an offline and it takes months to get

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<v Speaker 2>them back up and running. And like if the oil

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<v Speaker 2>supplies I also didn't know this, if oil supplies dropped

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<v Speaker 2>low enough, then it breaks down. If there's not actually

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<v Speaker 2>oil running through the pipeline, it can break down the

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<v Speaker 2>production systems. So like, if they don't resolve this in

544
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<v Speaker 2>the next several weeks, there's like a catastrophic supply side

545
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<v Speaker 2>issue where the infrastructure starts breaking down. And that's well,

546
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<v Speaker 2>like fixing all that is going to take. Forget about

547
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<v Speaker 2>the fucking travel season. We're talking about holiday plans, Thanksgiving, Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>Like again, I'm not rooting for any of this. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't say that. I don't why I'm saying again, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not a politician, but this is a fucked up situation.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet I well and not and yet the incompetence

552
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<v Speaker 2>and the refusal to acknowledge reality here is makes you

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<v Speaker 2>think they really want to lose, that there's something again

554
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<v Speaker 2>they're just it's it's self flagellation. Politically speaking, here's the

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<v Speaker 2>other challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm no geopolitical expert, but if they come to

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<v Speaker 1>a deal where it's just about opening the straight for

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<v Speaker 1>money and for ending the naval blockade, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>go on to negotiate the nuclear issue, which is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be tricky to say the least, and they don't

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<v Speaker 1>include Israel and the deal, then as we get into

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<v Speaker 1>the fall and Trump has his elections and we have

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<v Speaker 1>our elections here net Yahoo has his elections in Israel, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as Israel continues to be at war with

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<v Speaker 1>Lebanon and firing, you know, firing at Hesbela and Hesblo

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<v Speaker 1>is firing rockets in Israel, and Iran doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>let those rockets go unanswered, and then Iran gets involved

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<v Speaker 1>like that, we're not bringing peace to the Middle East

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<v Speaker 1>with a with a memo of understand. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that and there's a risk there, both for in the

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<v Speaker 1>midterms and in the presidential primaries, that the Middle East

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<v Speaker 1>is now like permanently in this state of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's always been a lot of conflict in

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<v Speaker 1>the Middle East, but like this latest conflict continues as

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<v Speaker 1>a sort of like a low boil I guess in

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<v Speaker 1>the best case scenario, low boil, but like and they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have to deal with it. They're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with the fallout of this war for years.

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<v Speaker 1>It is.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what I mean by time as a dimension.

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<v Speaker 2>The war is ongoing, The war never ends. We are

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<v Speaker 2>constantly on the brink of a peace deal. Call me

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty fifty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>So also on this note, the Washington Post reports that

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<v Speaker 1>oil and gas executives have been warning the White House that,

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, that gas prices are likely to spike.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're hearing this from the oil executives themselves. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not like, this is not just some just us

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it. And then Politico has a story on

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday with the headline the die has been cast. Trump

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<v Speaker 1>allies fear it's too late to reverse economic woes. I

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<v Speaker 1>also think there was a funny quote that I just

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<v Speaker 1>saw from John Cornyn, who is liberated now. He spoke

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<v Speaker 1>to the New York Times and he said he said

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<v Speaker 1>this about Donald Trump, He's going to have the most

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<v Speaker 1>miserable two years of his life, in the last two

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<v Speaker 1>years of his term. I think, because I think November

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be a disaster, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>What I mean?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck, like, what's going to be miserable? I mean miserable

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<v Speaker 2>things to Democrats who have backbones, and certainly not to

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans who might actually stand up to him. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>John Cornyn has no reason to continue to enable the

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<v Speaker 2>agenda of this mad man, and yet given the opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to break with him, hasn't. I mean, it's just such

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<v Speaker 2>cold comfort when you hear the guys that are on

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<v Speaker 2>their way out the door suddenly sort of develop a

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<v Speaker 2>moral compass. It's such bullshit. And by the way, they

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<v Speaker 2>haven't delivered on anything. There have been some pretty big

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<v Speaker 2>ticket issues that they could have done something about in

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<v Speaker 2>the last week and they've chosen not to. So like,

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<v Speaker 2>call me when your backbones made of action will like

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<v Speaker 2>bone matter? And not? What am I even saying, John Cornyn?

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<v Speaker 2>What the fuck ever? What the fuck ever? Is what

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<v Speaker 2>I say?

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<v Speaker 1>I know I agree with everything you said, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I also love hearing quotes like that, so it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a get a little bit of both I get

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<v Speaker 1>mad because I'm like, why where have you been? But also, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think what he said is right. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope so well.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that there's a you know, you should

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<v Speaker 2>be dragging all of these every time an administration official

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<v Speaker 2>goes in goes up to the hill, a fairy gets

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<v Speaker 2>her wings. Every time an American administration official goes to

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<v Speaker 2>the the Hill and has to testify under real questioning,

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<v Speaker 2>they prove themselves to be absolute clowns, and someone ends

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<v Speaker 2>up losing their job. Like just look at the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>look at look at the track record of Pam Bondi

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<v Speaker 2>and Christy Nome and you know, Tulsey Gabbert. Like so

632
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<v Speaker 2>the once Democrats control Congress, and I think there's a

633
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<v Speaker 2>likelihood that's both houses. Like there's gonna be some real

634
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<v Speaker 2>investigation into the absolute I'm not going to say, I

635
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:04.799
<v Speaker 2>mean the amorality, the potential criming, and the deep corruption

636
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.440
<v Speaker 2>in this administration, and they're gonna have to answer for it,

637
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<v Speaker 2>all of.

638
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:11.480
<v Speaker 1>It, and then they're going to continue fighting with each other,

639
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:18.000
<v Speaker 1>which we hear is happening right now. Apparently trum Trump

640
00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:20.440
<v Speaker 1>is not happy about any of this, and it's putting

641
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:23.519
<v Speaker 1>a real strain on the supportive workplace culture that he

642
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:27.079
<v Speaker 1>has tried so hard to build. Here's a MAGA operative

643
00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:29.039
<v Speaker 1>close to the White House talking to Playbook this morning.

644
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<v Speaker 1>Trump is quote increasingly frustrated with everyone from his own

645
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:34.799
<v Speaker 1>team to the Senate. He's pissed and people are not

646
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<v Speaker 1>recognizing the level of pisted that he is. And here's

647
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<v Speaker 1>another White House ally talking about Trump's staff. Quote knives

648
00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:44.200
<v Speaker 1>are out in some capacity. This person said, I mean

649
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:47.839
<v Speaker 1>people are stabbing people like. It's chaos. The chaos is

650
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<v Speaker 1>like creeping back. Sounds like a fun place to work,

651
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<v Speaker 1>no good benefits.

652
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm great, great, real The ladder is steep,

653
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<v Speaker 2>but you can climb, I don't. I mean the knives

654
00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:08.440
<v Speaker 2>are out, Like if you thought, what should we be

655
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<v Speaker 2>surprised that the most incompetent and corrupt White House in

656
00:33:11.799 --> 00:33:17.559
<v Speaker 2>American history is beset by infighting and backstabbing? Absolutely not.

657
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<v Speaker 2>I guess what's marginally interesting to me about that is

658
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:27.319
<v Speaker 2>those quotes are choice, but that it hasn't spilled out

659
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:30.039
<v Speaker 2>as much. I'm setting aside, like Bongino Gait and all,

660
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:33.799
<v Speaker 2>that that infighting hasn't spilled out in the sort of

661
00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:36.880
<v Speaker 2>real chrimlinology of this White House the way that it

662
00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:39.720
<v Speaker 2>did in Trump one point zero, given that things are

663
00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:42.720
<v Speaker 2>going so much worse for Trump and he's so much

664
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<v Speaker 2>more addled and obviously less I mean, maybe he's a

665
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:48.759
<v Speaker 2>sleep more. So that offers a reprieve and people can,

666
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<v Speaker 2>you know, unruffle their feathers. But it's interesting to me

667
00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:53.960
<v Speaker 2>that there hasn't been as much of a revolving door

668
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<v Speaker 2>and sort of leaked backstabbing sort of anecdotes coming out

669
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<v Speaker 2>of this White House the way there was and Trump won.

670
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what that owes to, maybe at Susie Wilds,

671
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:04.799
<v Speaker 2>but it sure still doesn't sound like a good place

672
00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:06.880
<v Speaker 2>to work. I mean, nothing is. Once you've been to

673
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:10.800
<v Speaker 2>the crooked media headquarters, the bar is very high.

674
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<v Speaker 1>Very high. My guess on this is that the percentage

675
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<v Speaker 1>of like, die hard loyalists is much higher in the

676
00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:23.320
<v Speaker 1>second term, and so all the people who might have

677
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:26.239
<v Speaker 1>had a conscience or wanted to speak out or thought

678
00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:28.000
<v Speaker 1>the things were going too far, they're all gone now,

679
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:32.039
<v Speaker 1>and so it's just the hardcore true believers. And so

680
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:34.639
<v Speaker 1>if you're starting to get knives out among those people,

681
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:37.559
<v Speaker 1>that's the good stuff right there. That's when you know

682
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:38.639
<v Speaker 1>things are combustible.

683
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<v Speaker 2>And I would say, you know, and I'm sure we'll

684
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<v Speaker 2>talk about this later when we talk about the slush fund.

685
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:46.719
<v Speaker 2>There is the carrot on the stick of personal enrichment

686
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:49.000
<v Speaker 2>in a way that is like it's an almost an

687
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:51.920
<v Speaker 2>explicit promise. Like if you're in this White House and

688
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:54.559
<v Speaker 2>you know Pam Bondi was doing stock trades, they all

689
00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:58.840
<v Speaker 2>have sort of various honeypots that they're dipping into that

690
00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:01.199
<v Speaker 2>will keep you there, your seat maybe a little bit

691
00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:04.280
<v Speaker 2>longer because you're making you have side hustles in a

692
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:06.559
<v Speaker 2>way that that was not an option or that they

693
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:10.199
<v Speaker 2>hadn't discovered that maybe in Trump one point, Oh, there

694
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:12.840
<v Speaker 2>is a reason to stay longer perhaps than you would.

695
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:16.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, personal personal, what is it? Personalized?

696
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<v Speaker 2>Bourbon doesn't just grow on trees, John, And if your

697
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:23.320
<v Speaker 2>cash bettel being FBI director, you know, membership has its perks.

698
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<v Speaker 1>Sure does. So. Trump was off the course pissed that

699
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Republicans keep defying him, and that's like one of the

700
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:32.719
<v Speaker 1>things he's really mad about. And it looks like Republican

701
00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:39.440
<v Speaker 1>sort of displeasure with him picking Bill Poulty for acting

702
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:43.639
<v Speaker 1>DNI as you and I talked about last week. Has

703
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:48.199
<v Speaker 1>led to Trump announcing his long term pick for d

704
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<v Speaker 1>n I, and it's that's US attorney and former SEC

705
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:56.559
<v Speaker 1>Chair Jay Clayton. So that got announced today on Thursday,

706
00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:01.480
<v Speaker 1>presumably because enough republic and said fuck no, we're not

707
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:04.199
<v Speaker 1>dealing with the Bill Poulty is a bridge too far.

708
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<v Speaker 1>And also if you go ahead with Bill Poulty as

709
00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:13.599
<v Speaker 1>a permanent DNI director or even a temporary DNI which

710
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:16.559
<v Speaker 1>some of them said absolutely not about that. Even if

711
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<v Speaker 1>they do that, then what they were going to do

712
00:36:18.440 --> 00:36:21.920
<v Speaker 1>is hold up seven oh two or the reauthorization of

713
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:24.360
<v Speaker 1>seven oh two, which is what gives the federal government

714
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:27.360
<v Speaker 1>warrantless spy powers. Got to make sure the government has

715
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:31.599
<v Speaker 1>warrantless by powers. Right, That is a again that is

716
00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:36.159
<v Speaker 1>a bipartisan push. But anyway, so now the question is

717
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<v Speaker 1>does this do it for Congress now that they've got

718
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<v Speaker 1>And also, what do you think about Jay Clayton?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so two things. One as I understand it, and

720
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:50.079
<v Speaker 2>our Crackerjack fact checking team can probably disabuse me of

721
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<v Speaker 2>this if it's incorrect, but Poulty remains. I think the

722
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<v Speaker 2>Times is reporting the current plan is for Polty to

723
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<v Speaker 2>continue to serve as acting director until Clayton is confirmed

724
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<v Speaker 2>by the Senate.

725
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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and and and Bill and he once again. There

726
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:07.880
<v Speaker 1>there was another story about apparently he called Tulsey Gabbard

727
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Bill Polti and was like, I know you said you're

728
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<v Speaker 1>leaving next month or whatever, but you're out now I'm starting.

729
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:15.559
<v Speaker 1>And she's like what the fuck. She's like, the president

730
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:17.320
<v Speaker 1>should tell me that. And then she called the President

731
00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:19.159
<v Speaker 1>and he was like, well, I get what do you

732
00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:20.679
<v Speaker 1>want your last day to be? And so now it's

733
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<v Speaker 1>going to be I think in a week week and

734
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<v Speaker 1>a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's because he knows he has you know,

736
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:28.760
<v Speaker 2>the clock is running. And these, you know, Tish James

737
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<v Speaker 2>mortgage fraud documents don't just find themselves John.

738
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<v Speaker 3>Well.

739
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's in there to be faffing around in

740
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:41.159
<v Speaker 2>classified material to try and drum up reasons why elections

741
00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:43.800
<v Speaker 2>have been stolen or Democrats or corrupt or whatever the

742
00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:46.960
<v Speaker 2>fuck it is. But I don't like the idea of

743
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Bill Pulty being anywhere near the Office of National Intelligence,

744
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:55.079
<v Speaker 2>Like that is setting aside Jay Clayton, like that is alarming,

745
00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:58.800
<v Speaker 2>And that is every reason why Democrat they should first

746
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:02.440
<v Speaker 2>of all Senate Republican like John Cornyan, who are you know,

747
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:06.280
<v Speaker 2>intent on giving the president keeping him in line. They

748
00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:09.360
<v Speaker 2>got the wool pulled over their eyes on the slush fund.

749
00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:11.800
<v Speaker 2>I know we're talking about that coming up, but they

750
00:38:11.840 --> 00:38:13.679
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't get their will the wool pulled over their eyes

751
00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:16.840
<v Speaker 2>on Bill Pulty, Like that man needs to be locked

752
00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:22.719
<v Speaker 2>out of the intelligence infrastructure and get a restraining order

753
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:26.800
<v Speaker 2>basically because even two weeks on the job for him

754
00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:28.920
<v Speaker 2>is too many. And if that means holding up vice

755
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:32.000
<v Speaker 2>A reauthorization until and unless that happens, then that's what

756
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:35.360
<v Speaker 2>should happen. Like he is a danger to democracy.

757
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Now, this is basically what that's basically what. I haven't

758
00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:42.039
<v Speaker 1>seen other Democrats yet, but Mark Warner, who's ranking member

759
00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:44.880
<v Speaker 1>on Intel, said that. Warner was like, this is fine.

760
00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I wish we could have got here earlier,

761
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:52.440
<v Speaker 1>but there's no way where we're no way we're reauthorizing

762
00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:55.639
<v Speaker 1>FAIZA unless we get assurances that there's no Bill Poulte

763
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<v Speaker 1>at all.

764
00:38:57.000 --> 00:38:59.599
<v Speaker 2>Like Bill Poulty needs to be extradited to a different

765
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:03.920
<v Speaker 2>country and get nowhere near like a passport office. I

766
00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:08.559
<v Speaker 2>will say, I mean Clayton Oversaw a lot of the

767
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:13.159
<v Speaker 2>review of the Epstein documents. He was the one, I

768
00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:16.360
<v Speaker 2>think his off his prosecutors brought the case against Nicholas Maduro,

769
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:19.679
<v Speaker 2>which was, you know, nominally the reason that Trump went

770
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:23.360
<v Speaker 2>in and seized Maduro. He's very capable of doing the

771
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:27.519
<v Speaker 2>president's bidding, and I think that's probably what won him favor.

772
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<v Speaker 2>He also, in recent days has been raising alarms about

773
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:33.000
<v Speaker 2>fraud in California and the vote count.

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<v Speaker 1>So, like, I noticed that, Yeah, he said, he said,

775
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:38.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying there's fraud, but the laws, the way

776
00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:43.719
<v Speaker 1>they're written in California present the opportunity for fraud. I'm like, Okay,

777
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:45.119
<v Speaker 1>we know why Jake Clayton.

778
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<v Speaker 2>Was just totally I mean, that's and that's a prerequisite

779
00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:50.800
<v Speaker 2>for any But like, I don't know, there's a part

780
00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:52.920
<v Speaker 2>of me that thinks, Okay, maybe Clayton gets in there

781
00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:55.119
<v Speaker 2>and he proves himself to be more of a bulwark

782
00:39:55.119 --> 00:39:58.559
<v Speaker 2>against Trump's most lawless impulses, or maybe he becomes more

783
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<v Speaker 2>of a student Like Todd Blanche was a kind of respected,

784
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:05.039
<v Speaker 2>like white you know, white shoe law firm kind of

785
00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:07.559
<v Speaker 2>guy and has turned out to be like the architect

786
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:11.119
<v Speaker 2>of our national nightmare. So I'm a little worried. I'm

787
00:40:11.159 --> 00:40:15.199
<v Speaker 2>worried about anybody that meets Trump's standards or substandards for

788
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:18.280
<v Speaker 2>any of these positions. I like the jim Heims, someone

789
00:40:18.280 --> 00:40:20.880
<v Speaker 2>I you know, and and Mark Warner of people Democrats

790
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<v Speaker 2>who have like very good reputations on this are signing

791
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:26.079
<v Speaker 2>off on him and saying he's good. That's reassuring. But

792
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<v Speaker 2>you know, I worry something happens to you when you

793
00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:31.000
<v Speaker 2>walk into the Trump administration. You have to check your

794
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<v Speaker 2>morals and your brain at.

795
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<v Speaker 1>The door, especially if you're someone who wants the job. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's a that's a red flag you.

797
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<v Speaker 2>No one in their right mind should want this. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>idiot ass administration understand there's a legislative branch that like

799
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<v Speaker 2>needs to confirm this, but like, why did he nominate

800
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<v Speaker 2>this guy? As the House is out and the Senate's out, Like,

801
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<v Speaker 2>this is nothing, Nothing's going to happen till I think

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<v Speaker 2>June twenty third. So FAISA authorization is going to expire

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and again, is it some kind of a scheme

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like high quality jerky, the kind humans would eat.

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<v Speaker 1>No fillers, no nutritional blends, no chemicals, just simple, complete nutrition.

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<v Speaker 1>Founded by doctor Tory Waxman, Sundays was created to meet

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<v Speaker 1>her high standards as a veterinarian and as a dog parent.

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<v Speaker 1>And the best part, Sundays requires no fridge, no freezer,

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<v Speaker 1>home cooked meal with a scoop and serve ease of kibble.

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<v Speaker 1>It's what dog food should have been all along. Our dog, Leo,

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<v Speaker 1>can definitely tell the difference between real food and dog

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<v Speaker 1>food because he really likes the real food and is

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<v Speaker 1>always trying to get it off the table. But now

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<v Speaker 1>that he has Sundays, he is very excited. Every time

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<v Speaker 1>he eats. We pour it into the bowl, he runs

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<v Speaker 1>to the bowl and it's easy to store. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>crooked fifty at checkout on the slush fund that you mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>The Atlantic Sera Fitzpatrick, who broke those stories about cash

861
00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:53.119
<v Speaker 1>hotel drinking on the job, has new reporting that administration

862
00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:56.199
<v Speaker 1>officials are quietly telling allies that quote plans for some

863
00:43:56.440 --> 00:44:01.159
<v Speaker 1>form of payout remain on track, so we've talked about

864
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:04.239
<v Speaker 1>this too, everyone that you know. Blanche said it's we're

865
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:09.519
<v Speaker 1>not moving forward with it. But then Republicans in Congress

866
00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:13.440
<v Speaker 1>blocked any provision in the ice funding bill that would

867
00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:16.039
<v Speaker 1>have killed it for good. And then Trump talks about

868
00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:17.800
<v Speaker 1>how much he loves it still and he loves the

869
00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:21.719
<v Speaker 1>slush fund, And sure enough, it sounds like from this reporting,

870
00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:24.280
<v Speaker 1>and Sarah talked to quite a few officials, current and

871
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:26.719
<v Speaker 1>former in the Justice Department in Congress and the Trump

872
00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:31.559
<v Speaker 1>administration elsewhere who said that basically there the plan could

873
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:34.960
<v Speaker 1>be that anyone who wants to pay out from the

874
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:36.719
<v Speaker 1>slush fund or from what used to be the slush

875
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:40.000
<v Speaker 1>fund would just sue the government, because that's who you'd

876
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:42.440
<v Speaker 1>sue for that, and then the federal government, the dj

877
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:45.199
<v Speaker 1>will just settle and settle for an amount of money,

878
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:47.320
<v Speaker 1>some amount of money. It is a payout, and that's that.

879
00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:50.159
<v Speaker 1>Even if the courts are like because they wouldn't take

880
00:44:50.159 --> 00:44:51.599
<v Speaker 1>their case to court because the court would be like, well,

881
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:56.719
<v Speaker 1>that's fucking crazy. You're on you're on video almost murdering

882
00:44:56.760 --> 00:44:58.719
<v Speaker 1>a cop. So no, we're not going to pay you

883
00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:00.920
<v Speaker 1>any money or or find in favor of you, and

884
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:02.239
<v Speaker 1>they'll say, well, we don't have to go to court

885
00:45:02.280 --> 00:45:04.159
<v Speaker 1>because the DOJ will settle with us.

886
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, it's not an adversarial lawsuit. Therefore it

887
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:10.400
<v Speaker 2>would be thrown out in court. But with this true

888
00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:14.159
<v Speaker 2>story of this administration, as obviously corrupt as the ballrooms

889
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:17.519
<v Speaker 2>and the reflecting pool contracts and all that shit, is

890
00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:20.639
<v Speaker 2>the true story of corruption is what they're doing behind

891
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:22.920
<v Speaker 2>closed doors, inside the guts of the federal government. And

892
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:24.920
<v Speaker 2>I will just plug Runaway Country one more time because

893
00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:28.920
<v Speaker 2>this week we talked to Pro Publica reporter Robert Fechteracci,

894
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:31.760
<v Speaker 2>who's been breaking amazing stories, including the way in which

895
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:35.280
<v Speaker 2>the Trump kids are dipping their hands in the deep

896
00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:38.400
<v Speaker 2>coffers of the Department of Defense and you know, making

897
00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:42.360
<v Speaker 2>ten x investments on venture capital funds or rire earth

898
00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:47.880
<v Speaker 2>mineral startups or drone contractors. There is a lot of

899
00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:50.880
<v Speaker 2>cash floating around in the American federal government, and they

900
00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:54.119
<v Speaker 2>have figured out a way to tap that maple tree,

901
00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:58.880
<v Speaker 2>if you will. And the slush fund is exemplary of

902
00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:03.280
<v Speaker 2>the opacity once people stop, once these kind of issues

903
00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:06.880
<v Speaker 2>stop being adjudicated publicly in courts or you know, politically,

904
00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:09.199
<v Speaker 2>and it's just a kind of behind the scenes process,

905
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:12.280
<v Speaker 2>a settlement fund at the DJ that hush hush, you

906
00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:15.280
<v Speaker 2>can tap if you have friends at the DOJ. That's

907
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:18.519
<v Speaker 2>where the most brazen corruption happens. And I have every

908
00:46:18.719 --> 00:46:23.239
<v Speaker 2>reason to believe that they intend on I mean Sarah's reporting, Yes,

909
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:26.960
<v Speaker 2>but it's also Todd Blanche refused to write down like

910
00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:29.880
<v Speaker 2>he wouldn't submit a written statement saying the slush fund

911
00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:33.800
<v Speaker 2>is outlawed. Like their behavior in and around the cancelation

912
00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:37.400
<v Speaker 2>of the slush fund was so transparent, it was clear

913
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:39.159
<v Speaker 2>that they were going to try and resurrect it in

914
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:42.840
<v Speaker 2>some fashion. And the statements in the piece I think

915
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:46.079
<v Speaker 2>she quotes Tom Tillis, who's like he has grown vocal

916
00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:48.800
<v Speaker 2>in his criticism of the administration as he heads towards

917
00:46:48.840 --> 00:46:52.559
<v Speaker 2>retirement and indicated he may not vote to confirm Blanche

918
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:57.039
<v Speaker 2>unless the fund is truly dead. Gee, you fucking think Tom,

919
00:46:57.440 --> 00:47:00.639
<v Speaker 2>Why are you even alive? What are you doing? BILDI Cassidy?

920
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:02.519
<v Speaker 2>What is the point of you? I think I said

921
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:04.719
<v Speaker 2>this last time we were on the podcast Lesson What

922
00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:07.920
<v Speaker 2>is the point of you? Bill Cassidy? Like, how cuck

923
00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:13.079
<v Speaker 2>can you be to this madman and his stooges. When

924
00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:13.800
<v Speaker 2>is enough enough?

925
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:18.519
<v Speaker 1>Apparently there there is no limit. And I do think

926
00:47:18.519 --> 00:47:20.679
<v Speaker 1>that what you just mentioned about Blanche, that is one

927
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:25.840
<v Speaker 1>leverage point here is don't confirm Blanche unless you know

928
00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:27.760
<v Speaker 1>they put it in a court filing, right, you got to.

929
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:30.000
<v Speaker 1>You can't just say it anymore if they're like well,

930
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:34.320
<v Speaker 1>and also, don't confirm Blanche because he helped with the Epstein

931
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:36.639
<v Speaker 1>cover up. And I just saw there was breaking news

932
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<v Speaker 1>that a group of Epstein survivors, you know, announced public

933
00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:42.840
<v Speaker 1>opposition to Blanche's attorney general nomination. Like, I do think

934
00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:46.519
<v Speaker 1>that's the kind of fight you can pick that actually

935
00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:49.519
<v Speaker 1>is you know, gets more attention than just we don't

936
00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:52.480
<v Speaker 1>want Todd Blanche because Todd Blanch sucks, right, like we

937
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:54.480
<v Speaker 1>have like you have some good examples. I think on

938
00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:58.079
<v Speaker 1>the slush fund too, I would make like this is

939
00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:02.239
<v Speaker 1>an extreme example that tells the whole story of the

940
00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Trump administration. And if I were Democrats, I would hammer

941
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:08.840
<v Speaker 1>it every single day from now into the mid terms.

942
00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:12.800
<v Speaker 1>If they win, they have a secret plan to take

943
00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:16.000
<v Speaker 1>your money and give it to criminals who beat cops

944
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:19.719
<v Speaker 1>and abuse children. Yeah, that's because those are a lot

945
00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:22.400
<v Speaker 1>of the Jain sells itself somehow, somehow. So many of

946
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:26.360
<v Speaker 1>the January sixth convicts also have either gone on to

947
00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:29.119
<v Speaker 1>commit child abuse or had in the past, So that's

948
00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:31.880
<v Speaker 1>just that's interesting. But yeah, these are the people that

949
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:34.599
<v Speaker 1>they want to give your money to if they win.

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00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:36.639
<v Speaker 1>And this is one area too where there's a lot

951
00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:39.960
<v Speaker 1>of things that Trump's doing where if Democrats take Congress, Unfortunately,

952
00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:41.800
<v Speaker 1>we're not going to be able to do anything until

953
00:48:41.960 --> 00:48:44.079
<v Speaker 1>we have a democratic president. So everyone's going to have to,

954
00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:45.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, keep fighting and we're not gonna be able

955
00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:48.880
<v Speaker 1>to pass legislation because Trump's still president. But everything where

956
00:48:48.880 --> 00:48:51.880
<v Speaker 1>you were just talking about happening behind closed doors, happening

957
00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:53.880
<v Speaker 1>in secret, with the slush fund, with the other stuff.

958
00:48:53.960 --> 00:48:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Democrats take Congress, they're going to be able to like

959
00:48:57.360 --> 00:48:59.199
<v Speaker 1>shine a light on all of that and make sure

960
00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:00.480
<v Speaker 1>that it doesn't happen a lot of.

961
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:04.679
<v Speaker 2>It at least, and to make sure it doesn't happen of.

962
00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Slush fund is a perfect example of that. And so

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00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I would be saying that all through the fall, like you,

964
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:13.559
<v Speaker 1>you elect Republicans and they are going to Donald Trump

965
00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:15.599
<v Speaker 1>is going to take your money and use it to

966
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:20.119
<v Speaker 1>pay out criminals, criminals who beat cops.

967
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:24.800
<v Speaker 2>John, They're such jabbronis though, Like they probably can't even

968
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<v Speaker 2>pull it off in secret, like they have the quote

969
00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:31.199
<v Speaker 2>Chadley Woodward Junior, who's an associate Attorney General who signed

970
00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:34.719
<v Speaker 2>off on the slush fund, and he responds, we're on

971
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:38.039
<v Speaker 2>it to a post by Lindsey Graham that suggested victims

972
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<v Speaker 2>of the weaponization fund could still be compensated through other means.

973
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<v Speaker 2>It's like, you're not supposed to say that, dude. He

974
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<v Speaker 2>then deleted the post. They're so dumb.

975
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<v Speaker 1>They are so dumb. And the and the criminals who

976
00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:53.599
<v Speaker 1>were going to try to get the payouts, they're not

977
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<v Speaker 1>going to be able to stop themselves from bragging about

978
00:49:55.719 --> 00:49:57.639
<v Speaker 1>it because they're all total Yeah.

979
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<v Speaker 2>Videos of themselves rolling around on heads of money, like

980
00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:02.719
<v Speaker 2>Demi Moorn in decent proposal.

981
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<v Speaker 1>Yes, like videos that they took of themselves breaking into

982
00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:09.119
<v Speaker 1>the Capitol and trying to you know, exactly. So, speaking

983
00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:10.800
<v Speaker 1>of knives out in Trump world, let's talk about the

984
00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:13.280
<v Speaker 1>explosive story in the Times about just how badly the

985
00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:17.119
<v Speaker 1>administration fucked up the entire Epstein saga. The story is

986
00:50:17.119 --> 00:50:19.920
<v Speaker 1>actually an excerpt for Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan's forthcoming

987
00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:23.360
<v Speaker 1>new book, Regime Change, and it includes some pretty incredible

988
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:26.840
<v Speaker 1>details and anecdotes that involved Trump officials screaming at each

989
00:50:26.840 --> 00:50:29.960
<v Speaker 1>other and just generally acting like morons. What were some

990
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:30.880
<v Speaker 1>of your favorite bits?

991
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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, I mean, do I have to talk about

992
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<v Speaker 2>abused nipples or will you talk about that? I really

993
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:39.880
<v Speaker 2>don't have to talk I had We're going to have

994
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<v Speaker 2>to tackle it.

995
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<v Speaker 1>Tommy and I did a lot of nipple talk responding

996
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<v Speaker 1>to this on YouTube, went to America YouTube. Why don't

997
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:48.920
<v Speaker 1>you sorry, we don't do a lot of public nipple talk, right, Okay,

998
00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:51.800
<v Speaker 1>but yeah we did. We did. We did lead off

999
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<v Speaker 1>with this yesterday on the pods of America YouTube. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's why, that's why I want to hear.

1001
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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's why you should be a subscriber.

1002
00:50:56.880 --> 00:50:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Huh exactly. That's a that's a great.

1003
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<v Speaker 2>Place to Okay, where to begin, let's table abuse nipples.

1004
00:51:03.199 --> 00:51:04.639
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we won't even get to it, and we'll drive

1005
00:51:04.679 --> 00:51:09.840
<v Speaker 2>people to the subscription only YouTube rapid response. I think

1006
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:12.159
<v Speaker 2>they're just One of the things that grabbed me initially

1007
00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:13.960
<v Speaker 2>was the idea that they're sitting in the sit room.

1008
00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:17.519
<v Speaker 2>Trump isn't there and it's like the Crackerjack a team

1009
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:20.480
<v Speaker 2>to figure out what to do about the Epstein scandal,

1010
00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:24.320
<v Speaker 2>And it's like Susie Wild's David Warrington find Caroline Levitt,

1011
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Stephen Chung, Pam Bondi, Cash Betel. This is like I'm

1012
00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:31.639
<v Speaker 2>trying to think, is it like a gang of like

1013
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:36.920
<v Speaker 2>resputants or Yago? Like what's the appropriate character delineation for

1014
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:42.119
<v Speaker 2>this group of malicious idiots? But anyway, then I of

1015
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:45.920
<v Speaker 2>course I focus a lot on the JD. Vans of

1016
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:49.119
<v Speaker 2>it all because in these inside Maggie and Jonathan have

1017
00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:52.559
<v Speaker 2>done great reporting and they did another similar sort of

1018
00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:56.360
<v Speaker 2>piece about how America decided to go to war, which

1019
00:51:56.599 --> 00:52:01.920
<v Speaker 2>also involves a group of malicious idiots. Yeah, and it's

1020
00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:05.559
<v Speaker 2>clear that Jade Vance is a source for some of this.

1021
00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:10.199
<v Speaker 2>Like in some parts of this he comes across as

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<v Speaker 2>like the only clear thinker and understands that Epstein is

1023
00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:16.880
<v Speaker 2>a major problem for Trump and he needs to do

1024
00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:18.880
<v Speaker 2>something about it, and they need to be aggressive, and

1025
00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:22.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, he needs to. He presses for the administration

1026
00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:26.840
<v Speaker 2>to release all the files and even the unsubstantiated allegations

1027
00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:29.400
<v Speaker 2>and anecdotes. But then he also has like the most

1028
00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:36.280
<v Speaker 2>dumb fuck ideas ever, like having suggesting that that Tucker

1029
00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:40.159
<v Speaker 2>Carlson go and interview Gallayne Maxwell like somehow that's going

1030
00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:43.239
<v Speaker 2>to solve their problems, which would only spin it into

1031
00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:47.000
<v Speaker 2>the stratosphere and is like asking a six year old

1032
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<v Speaker 2>to go eat a whole bunch of cotton candy and

1033
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<v Speaker 2>then take the teacups ride like it's all sensory overload.

1034
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<v Speaker 2>Can you even imagine what that conversation would be? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't, I don't know what did you think?

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<v Speaker 1>Also, well, so I had a couple of like big

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<v Speaker 1>odds on the whole thing. Big picture thoughts. One is

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<v Speaker 1>that the people in the administration who most understand like

1039
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<v Speaker 1>what really drives and angers the magabase, your jd Vance

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<v Speaker 1>is your Dan Bongino's, they may be sources for this

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<v Speaker 1>story like that could be likely, but clearly like they

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<v Speaker 1>what's awesome about this is that they, you know, spoke

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00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:25.960
<v Speaker 1>up and and are trying to stop this and trying

1044
00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:28.199
<v Speaker 1>to fix it, and yet they are going to be

1045
00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:32.360
<v Speaker 1>tarnished forever by not having achieved any of what they

1046
00:53:32.360 --> 00:53:35.599
<v Speaker 1>set out to achieve. So it's not like like no,

1047
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:37.039
<v Speaker 1>no one in the magabase is going to be like

1048
00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:39.599
<v Speaker 1>reading this and thinking like, oh, you know jd Vance,

1049
00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:41.679
<v Speaker 1>our guy on the inside, he tried his best.

1050
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:44.599
<v Speaker 2>Did you meet Maggie? And Jonathan's TikTok come.

1051
00:53:44.519 --> 00:53:46.719
<v Speaker 1>On like no one, no one's gonna think that. Yeah.

1052
00:53:46.760 --> 00:53:49.639
<v Speaker 1>So jd Vance is like, I have a great idea,

1053
00:53:49.639 --> 00:53:52.760
<v Speaker 1>will have Tucker interview Gallayne masks Well. And then there

1054
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:54.559
<v Speaker 1>was like that's kind of crazy. Then Todd Blanche is like,

1055
00:53:54.639 --> 00:53:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I'll interview Gallaine Maxwell, and then the White House counsole

1056
00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:02.719
<v Speaker 1>floats give her a pardon, and then the rest of

1057
00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:08.079
<v Speaker 1>the room strongly disagrees. And then Stephen Chung says, quote,

1058
00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:11.000
<v Speaker 1>pardoning Maxwell a trafficker of young girls would create a

1059
00:54:11.079 --> 00:54:15.239
<v Speaker 1>huge pr problem. No fucking shit, huh wow. Also a

1060
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:16.920
<v Speaker 1>good thing you're in this job. You're a you're a

1061
00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:18.400
<v Speaker 1>bright guye well.

1062
00:54:18.880 --> 00:54:22.440
<v Speaker 2>But also not even a gesture.

1063
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:24.719
<v Speaker 1>I know, towards the morality.

1064
00:54:24.920 --> 00:54:27.920
<v Speaker 2>More the morality here, not a word they understand. The

1065
00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:33.519
<v Speaker 2>ethics never ever come into debate. It is just about spin.

1066
00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:37.840
<v Speaker 2>It is just about minimizing the drama for the Trump administration.

1067
00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:41.599
<v Speaker 2>It is nothing about the victims and survivors who went

1068
00:54:41.639 --> 00:54:45.440
<v Speaker 2>through this hell like it's so naked, not that it

1069
00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:48.360
<v Speaker 2>should surprise anybody, but really it's astounding.

1070
00:54:48.480 --> 00:54:51.199
<v Speaker 1>And then JD Vance is like, then they thought when

1071
00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:53.440
<v Speaker 1>they were coming out with that that wonderful memo that

1072
00:54:53.480 --> 00:54:58.239
<v Speaker 1>did nothing but cause them more trouble. Uh. They had

1073
00:54:58.239 --> 00:55:01.000
<v Speaker 1>this original plan to have Todd Blank go on Joe

1074
00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:05.119
<v Speaker 1>Rogan to talk about this, and then JD's like, well,

1075
00:55:05.119 --> 00:55:07.920
<v Speaker 1>how about I go instead of Todd Blanche and I

1076
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:09.840
<v Speaker 1>can take a few questions about this, but because it's

1077
00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:12.960
<v Speaker 1>me the Vice President and not Todd Blanche, he'll have

1078
00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:15.960
<v Speaker 1>to ask about other stuff like the administration's progress on

1079
00:55:16.039 --> 00:55:18.239
<v Speaker 1>helping working people and the tax cuts and the building

1080
00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:21.519
<v Speaker 1>if you listened to Joe Rogan. And then of course

1081
00:55:21.559 --> 00:55:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Joe Rogan was like, I'm only taking JD. Vansa, not

1082
00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Todd Blanche because who the fuck is Todd Blanche and

1083
00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:27.599
<v Speaker 1>so and then it never goes anywhere. But I did

1084
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:30.599
<v Speaker 1>like that little anecdote, just because JD clearly has some

1085
00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:33.039
<v Speaker 1>really the mind of a communication strategist.

1086
00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:36.280
<v Speaker 2>You definitely want to hear about how we're helping working

1087
00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:38.800
<v Speaker 2>families and how we're cutting the social safety net to

1088
00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:42.440
<v Speaker 2>help those working families. Also, Pam BONDI like released her

1089
00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:47.400
<v Speaker 2>fake dummy Epstein files without any consultation with the White House.

1090
00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Right, and this is a small, small thing, small thing,

1091
00:55:51.320 --> 00:55:53.320
<v Speaker 1>But she was left out on some of the emails

1092
00:55:54.039 --> 00:55:56.800
<v Speaker 1>about the memo. And the reason is is because it

1093
00:55:56.840 --> 00:56:00.360
<v Speaker 1>said Bondi rarely used her Justice Department email and was

1094
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:02.119
<v Speaker 1>not on the chain where the group worked on the memo.

1095
00:56:02.440 --> 00:56:08.079
<v Speaker 1>The Attorney General rarely uses, rarely used her Justice Department email.

1096
00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:10.159
<v Speaker 1>Remember twenty six.

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00:56:10.599 --> 00:56:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Why is there some irony in that that I'm missing?

1098
00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:15.519
<v Speaker 1>No, No, it's we've always we've always cared a lot

1099
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:16.199
<v Speaker 1>about It's not like.

1100
00:56:16.199 --> 00:56:17.719
<v Speaker 2>She's dealing with classified information.

1101
00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:23.519
<v Speaker 1>Ipsack here and so and then Dan Bongino screams at Pambondy,

1102
00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:26.559
<v Speaker 1>yells at Susie Wiles, storms out of meetings. He said

1103
00:56:26.559 --> 00:56:28.800
<v Speaker 1>to Pambondy, you fucked this thing up from the start,

1104
00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:30.840
<v Speaker 1>the way you've been talking about this, the dumb fucking

1105
00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:33.920
<v Speaker 1>charade with the Epstein files that they're on my desk, nonsense,

1106
00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:36.639
<v Speaker 1>all the promises to the folks out there. So that

1107
00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:37.039
<v Speaker 1>was fun.

1108
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:39.719
<v Speaker 2>That threatened to quick bong Gino definitely a source. Also

1109
00:56:39.800 --> 00:56:42.880
<v Speaker 2>this I like this part of it. Privately, Bongino seethed

1110
00:56:43.079 --> 00:56:46.119
<v Speaker 2>in conversations with confidants. He lamented what the job had

1111
00:56:46.159 --> 00:56:50.320
<v Speaker 2>cost him millions of dollars in podcast revenue, family time

1112
00:56:50.679 --> 00:56:51.960
<v Speaker 2>his audience.

1113
00:56:54.440 --> 00:56:58.119
<v Speaker 1>Just sandwiched in between the millions in podcasts. Yeah I left.

1114
00:56:58.159 --> 00:57:00.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry millions. Yeah no, I've left to spend more

1115
00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:05.000
<v Speaker 1>time with my audience, just like Okay, No.

1116
00:57:05.119 --> 00:57:07.679
<v Speaker 2>It's good to know where your kids stand now. They

1117
00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:11.440
<v Speaker 2>now they know for sure we should between your your like,

1118
00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:15.320
<v Speaker 2>your downloads, and your YouTube subscribers. Cool.

1119
00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Before we move on to from the from this, we

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00:57:18.039 --> 00:57:21.639
<v Speaker 1>should at least talk about nipplegate because otherwise people are

1121
00:57:21.679 --> 00:57:23.199
<v Speaker 1>going to think that we're weird that we didn't. We

1122
00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:25.079
<v Speaker 1>just threw it out there and then and then didn't

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00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:26.159
<v Speaker 1>actually explain that.

1124
00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:27.840
<v Speaker 2>We don't want them to think we're perverts.

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00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:29.320
<v Speaker 1>No, right, So what the president?

1126
00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:30.280
<v Speaker 2>That would be the president.

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00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:31.880
<v Speaker 1>So when they looked through all the emails and all

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<v Speaker 1>the files, they found h allegations from a woman named

1129
00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Sarah Ransom, and she claimed that she knew a girl

1130
00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:44.280
<v Speaker 1>in Epstein's sex trafficking ring named Jen, who said she

1131
00:57:44.360 --> 00:57:47.960
<v Speaker 1>had sex with Trump. Ransom also claimed that Jen had

1132
00:57:48.000 --> 00:57:50.960
<v Speaker 1>told her that Trump had a predilection for nipples and

1133
00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:54.639
<v Speaker 1>that he had aggressively flicked and sucked hers. She wrote

1134
00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:56.800
<v Speaker 1>that she had seen evidence when she shared a bathroom

1135
00:57:56.800 --> 00:57:59.559
<v Speaker 1>with Jen quote they looked incredibly painful as they were

1136
00:57:59.599 --> 00:58:02.239
<v Speaker 1>read and swollen, and I remember wincing when I looked

1137
00:58:02.280 --> 00:58:02.559
<v Speaker 1>at them.

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00:58:02.639 --> 00:58:05.960
<v Speaker 2>She wrote, thank you for taking that one for the team.

1139
00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Dude.

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00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:10.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I was like, I'm going to have to

1141
00:58:10.599 --> 00:58:12.400
<v Speaker 2>do this because I'm a woman, but you really thank

1142
00:58:12.440 --> 00:58:13.960
<v Speaker 2>you for doing me that solid.

1143
00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:21.320
<v Speaker 1>So of course, you know, unsubstantiated, but there was we heard.

1144
00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:23.519
<v Speaker 1>We didn't hear this exact story, but like this story

1145
00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:26.559
<v Speaker 1>had been out there, and then the White Houses tried

1146
00:58:26.559 --> 00:58:31.159
<v Speaker 1>to say that because she had basically rescinded other allegations

1147
00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:33.440
<v Speaker 1>because she said she was afraid for her life, that

1148
00:58:33.519 --> 00:58:35.559
<v Speaker 1>maybe she's not a reliable source, and so that oh,

1149
00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:37.760
<v Speaker 1>she she said the other things weren't true. She took

1150
00:58:37.800 --> 00:58:39.519
<v Speaker 1>it back, and so this is so there's still like

1151
00:58:39.559 --> 00:58:42.480
<v Speaker 1>some confusion around there. But anyway, the point is this

1152
00:58:43.199 --> 00:58:46.960
<v Speaker 1>story is why they didn't make the searchable database for

1153
00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:48.880
<v Speaker 1>all the files and left some out of there, which

1154
00:58:48.920 --> 00:58:51.880
<v Speaker 1>also ended up fucking them because obviously people knew they're

1155
00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:53.679
<v Speaker 1>worthholding some of the files.

1156
00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:58.360
<v Speaker 2>Damned if you do, damned if you don't. There's like

1157
00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:01.679
<v Speaker 2>the fact that we now live in the universe where

1158
00:59:02.159 --> 00:59:07.159
<v Speaker 2>these kind of stories are ones about the president of

1159
00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:10.639
<v Speaker 2>the United States, where we're talking about the document that

1160
00:59:10.760 --> 00:59:15.239
<v Speaker 2>connected Trump to the claim about abused nipples was among

1161
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:18.920
<v Speaker 2>the material that came out. I also like, that's what

1162
00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:21.559
<v Speaker 2>we're we now have to talk about abused nipples in

1163
00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:23.920
<v Speaker 2>the context of the president of the United States. And

1164
00:59:23.960 --> 00:59:27.920
<v Speaker 2>then I also like the JD vance is like, Trump

1165
00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:36.400
<v Speaker 2>would be okay, if you released the nipple related documents, it's.

1166
00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:36.199
<v Speaker 1>Going to be better, going to be better to get

1167
00:59:36.239 --> 00:59:36.880
<v Speaker 1>it all out there.

1168
00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Abusing nipples, it's nothing to the it's nothing compared to

1169
00:59:39.960 --> 00:59:43.440
<v Speaker 2>the other abuse. And then Susie Wells is like hard, no, hard,

1170
00:59:43.480 --> 00:59:46.199
<v Speaker 2>no JD not letting nipplegate get out there.

1171
00:59:46.519 --> 00:59:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Obviously like the lurid nature of that story and the

1172
00:59:50.360 --> 00:59:53.480
<v Speaker 1>description makes it like that that is what sort of

1173
00:59:53.480 --> 00:59:56.519
<v Speaker 1>attracts your attention. But just stepping back from it all

1174
00:59:57.039 --> 01:00:01.320
<v Speaker 1>if like that is an allegation the Donald Trump was

1175
01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:07.400
<v Speaker 1>involved with Jeffrey Epstein's sex trafficking of underage girls, right,

1176
01:00:07.480 --> 01:00:10.440
<v Speaker 1>and so now we have like and we're just all like, oh, well,

1177
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:13.519
<v Speaker 1>that's that's a wild story. It's like, no, no, no, it's.

1178
01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:17.199
<v Speaker 2>But the only allegation right that was it's it's and

1179
01:00:17.199 --> 01:00:19.519
<v Speaker 2>and it's like the one person in the White House

1180
01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:21.480
<v Speaker 2>who did not want to deal with the Epstein files,

1181
01:00:21.480 --> 01:00:24.440
<v Speaker 2>did not want to deal with the strategy around transparency

1182
01:00:24.440 --> 01:00:26.920
<v Speaker 2>and what was released and what wasn't was Donald Trump.

1183
01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:28.519
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, hmmm, and.

1184
01:00:29.119 --> 01:00:31.599
<v Speaker 1>I need that be And he says privately to Marjorie

1185
01:00:31.599 --> 01:00:34.519
<v Speaker 1>Taylor Green in the piece, Oh, it's because I don't

1186
01:00:34.519 --> 01:00:36.199
<v Speaker 1>want it really, because it could really hurt some of

1187
01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:38.639
<v Speaker 1>my friends, like, yeah, including his best friend.

1188
01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly, his very closest friend. And then we yes,

1189
01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:45.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean there are a lot of Listen, we're just

1190
01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:47.320
<v Speaker 2>asking questions, John, yeahs.

1191
01:00:47.599 --> 01:00:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, it's all out there. It's all out there.

1192
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:53.320
<v Speaker 1>One other data point on why Trump might not be

1193
01:00:53.400 --> 01:00:55.599
<v Speaker 1>in a great mood. I know you saw the Post

1194
01:00:55.599 --> 01:00:58.400
<v Speaker 1>story saying that the Washington Post story is saying that

1195
01:00:58.440 --> 01:01:01.280
<v Speaker 1>his last medical checkup, Trump was by twenty two different

1196
01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:05.440
<v Speaker 1>medical specialists. I did not read this whole story, but

1197
01:01:05.480 --> 01:01:06.239
<v Speaker 1>I know you wanted to.

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01:01:06.639 --> 01:01:10.159
<v Speaker 2>That's all there is. Have you ever seen twenty two doctors?

1199
01:01:10.480 --> 01:01:12.440
<v Speaker 2>The last time he was at the at Walter Reed,

1200
01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:17.800
<v Speaker 2>he was seen by fourteen specialists, eleven before twenty two doctors.

1201
01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Seems like a lot. Now you could say, oh, Biden

1202
01:01:19.960 --> 01:01:22.880
<v Speaker 2>saw twenty I think according to Kree John Pierre at

1203
01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:26.719
<v Speaker 2>his last year in office. But Biden also wasn't covering

1204
01:01:26.719 --> 01:01:31.079
<v Speaker 2>his hands in like Mabeline concealer on the daily, didn't

1205
01:01:31.079 --> 01:01:33.880
<v Speaker 2>have a rash creeping up his neck, wasn't falling asleep

1206
01:01:34.119 --> 01:01:37.800
<v Speaker 2>all the time at any hour, and as you know,

1207
01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:41.599
<v Speaker 2>addled as Biden seemed, I don't think he approached the

1208
01:01:41.639 --> 01:01:44.920
<v Speaker 2>incoherence of Trump, and certainly not with the same stakes.

1209
01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:47.079
<v Speaker 2>Like we're in the middle of a war and the

1210
01:01:47.159 --> 01:01:50.519
<v Speaker 2>global economy is in a tailspin. There's like food shortages

1211
01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:53.000
<v Speaker 2>happening around the world. People in the Philippines can't go

1212
01:01:53.039 --> 01:01:56.639
<v Speaker 2>to work five days a week because there's not enough fuel.

1213
01:01:57.000 --> 01:02:01.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's like, anyway, I think we should all

1214
01:02:01.519 --> 01:02:04.199
<v Speaker 2>be talking thank you for including this in the rundown, John,

1215
01:02:04.239 --> 01:02:06.440
<v Speaker 2>because I do think we should all be talking a

1216
01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:09.360
<v Speaker 2>lot more about his fitness for office. Like it's kind

1217
01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:12.880
<v Speaker 2>of crazy to me that the the the Jabbroni who

1218
01:02:12.920 --> 01:02:16.920
<v Speaker 2>fell asleep at the Knicks game gets a pass for

1219
01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:20.679
<v Speaker 2>any of it. Like it is he increasingly shows no

1220
01:02:20.840 --> 01:02:24.559
<v Speaker 2>signs of competence in office, and the American public deserved

1221
01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:26.039
<v Speaker 2>to have more transparency about his health.

1222
01:02:26.360 --> 01:02:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I do agree. I will also say, though, if if

1223
01:02:29.519 --> 01:02:32.079
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump was turned out to be in one hundred

1224
01:02:32.079 --> 01:02:36.679
<v Speaker 1>percent tip top shape not fit for office, don't think

1225
01:02:36.679 --> 01:02:38.440
<v Speaker 1>it would have Don't think it would be improving his

1226
01:02:38.519 --> 01:02:44.000
<v Speaker 1>performance no percent. I think that he I think if

1227
01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:46.360
<v Speaker 1>he had if he is, if he was like a

1228
01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:50.400
<v Speaker 1>physical specimen at whatever his age is, to be eighty

1229
01:02:50.480 --> 01:02:54.000
<v Speaker 1>years old this weekend, If he's a physical specimen, if

1230
01:02:54.039 --> 01:02:57.400
<v Speaker 1>he had the the if he had the constitution of

1231
01:02:57.440 --> 01:03:00.880
<v Speaker 1>a forty year old, he would still be as bad

1232
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:03.079
<v Speaker 1>of a president as he is right now.

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01:03:03.639 --> 01:03:05.039
<v Speaker 2>Respect I agree.

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01:03:05.960 --> 01:03:08.039
<v Speaker 1>But it is. It is fucking weird.

1235
01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:10.000
<v Speaker 2>It'd be good to know if he's dying.

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01:03:10.920 --> 01:03:13.559
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of this weekend, we'd be remiss if we didn't

1237
01:03:13.599 --> 01:03:16.760
<v Speaker 1>discuss the massive sporting event bringing Americans together in a

1238
01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:20.280
<v Speaker 1>celebration of our shared purpose and values, the UFC sponsored

1239
01:03:20.280 --> 01:03:22.800
<v Speaker 1>cage match that Donald Trump is staging on the White

1240
01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:26.199
<v Speaker 1>House lawn for his eightieth birthday on Sunday. A group

1241
01:03:26.239 --> 01:03:28.559
<v Speaker 1>called Public Integrity Project is suing to try to stop

1242
01:03:28.599 --> 01:03:31.320
<v Speaker 1>the event. I'm not sure they'll succeed. According to the AP,

1243
01:03:32.320 --> 01:03:36.039
<v Speaker 1>the government attorneys revealed in legal filings that the UFC

1244
01:03:36.199 --> 01:03:39.519
<v Speaker 1>and other private groups have already spent sixty million dollars

1245
01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:42.840
<v Speaker 1>on the event that is a government saying that they

1246
01:03:42.840 --> 01:03:45.079
<v Speaker 1>did not say how much the federal government has shelled out,

1247
01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:47.599
<v Speaker 1>but wrote that seven different agencies are involved and have

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<v Speaker 1>quote allocated significant resources and manpower. Most of this is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, UFC is footing the bill for most of

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<v Speaker 1>this and various sponsors, but I don't know. You have

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<v Speaker 1>seven different government agencies and that's going to be that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be directing some time and energy and resources

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<v Speaker 1>that could be going to the business of the people.

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose again I point you to the real grift

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<v Speaker 2>that's happening is inside the guts of the federal government.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there will be an accounting for it at some point,

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<v Speaker 2>but this we should assume the very worst about what

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing and the way they are reappropriating resources to

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<v Speaker 2>serve Donald Trump's massive ego. The only thing I can

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<v Speaker 2>hold out hope for John is, first of all, I

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<v Speaker 2>believe the cage matches on Sunday. Is that right way

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<v Speaker 2>ins are on Saturday. I'm looking at the forecast for Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>d C. Ninety two degrees and thunderstorms.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I saw that. I saw that because when

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I was going, I was saying it was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be that hot. It was a chance of thunderstorms.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if the chances increased, but it's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty five percent chance of scattered thunderstorms in the afternoon

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<v Speaker 2>and evening.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't want to I don't notice anything

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna trigger any kind of karma. Because forecasts for

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago on Thursday at the Obama Library opening one day Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to rain heavily.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, But is there an outdoor cage match happening at

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<v Speaker 2>the celebrary that I'm unaware of? David axel Rod versus

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Blue.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you seen the pictures of the of the Octagon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, dude, it looks like six flags. It's so bad.

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<v Speaker 2>They like that's ai you got tricked and wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>If it wasn't on the White House line, I'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>that looks pretty cool. And I'm not like a UFC fan,

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01:05:34.719 --> 01:05:36.679
<v Speaker 1>but like, that looks pretty cool. But I'm like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is on the south line of the White House. It's

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<v Speaker 1>also extremely funny. And just talk about the symbolism. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they built a like an eight hundred foot octagon cage

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<v Speaker 1>right next to the rubble of the east wing.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, John, the ways happening at the Wayans are happening

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<v Speaker 2>at the Lincoln Memorial.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I looked into this is it? You canceled the Wayans.

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<v Speaker 1>So this was the organization that was filing the lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 1>Got in trouble for this because they put it in

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<v Speaker 1>the filing too. But the press conference is being held

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<v Speaker 1>of the Lincoln Memorial and the Wayans are happening at

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<v Speaker 1>the Ellipse.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, very fantastic. He loves the Ellipse for all important things.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I am not a fan of this,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is the country I wanted this president, and

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<v Speaker 2>some people in this country will be served by this

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<v Speaker 2>gruesome spectacle, and perhaps they will enjoy it, or perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>Mother Nature will have the last laugh and shoot down

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<v Speaker 2>bolts of lightning to the south lawne of the White House,

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<v Speaker 2>preventing the cage match from happening on Donald Trump's birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing that, honestly, the only thing that the story

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<v Speaker 1>that has bothered me the most about this is the

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<v Speaker 1>hot troops only story that for all the the for

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<v Speaker 1>all the service members that are getting invited that have

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<v Speaker 1>to pay first all they have to pay their own

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01:06:52.440 --> 01:06:55.599
<v Speaker 1>way to get there, and then they have to meet

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01:06:55.639 --> 01:07:01.000
<v Speaker 1>a certain weight requirement. And one defense official told that

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to make sure they pick people who are

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<v Speaker 1>going to look good on television.

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<v Speaker 2>This is so fun what you go when you install

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<v Speaker 2>a men's grooming expert as the secretary of Defense. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the kind of stuff that you get. I wish

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<v Speaker 2>he was just doing TikTok videos about how to keep

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<v Speaker 2>salt and pepper hair looking dignified.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead, but less he's running a war in Iran. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>good stuff. When we come back, you'll hear my conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with CNN's Ron Brownstein. We will talk about the Senate map,

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<v Speaker 1>the House map, and all kinds of other good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Pods of America is brought to you by Walmart. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we talk a lot about finding a job, but what

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<v Speaker 1>about building a career? Walmart is actually making that happen

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<v Speaker 1>for their associates by investing over a billion dollars in

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<v Speaker 1>training and education. And the proof is in the number

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<v Speaker 1>is last year are more than one hundred thousand associates

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<v Speaker 1>earned promotions, adding great benefits like four oh one CA

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<v Speaker 1>matching and paid parental leave. And it's clear Walmart isn't

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<v Speaker 1>just a place to work, it's a place to grow.

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<v Speaker 1>Go see for yourself at Walmart dot com slash grow

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<v Speaker 1>at Walmart. That's Walmart dot com, slash grow at Walmart.

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<v Speaker 1>Ron Brownstein, welcome back to plat Save America.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, good to be with John.

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<v Speaker 1>So, since you're one of the smartest political analysts out there,

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to check in get your thoughts on the primaries

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<v Speaker 1>we've had and the midterms ahead of us. Maybe we

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<v Speaker 1>can start big picture. Where are we right now, little

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<v Speaker 1>less than five months till the midterms. How does this

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<v Speaker 1>political environment compare to where we were in twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>which was the last midterm when Democrats faced an unpopular

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump and did quite well.

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<v Speaker 4>That is a really good place to I think the

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<v Speaker 4>right point of comparison. And I think this election to

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<v Speaker 4>me is just shaping up as the classic collision between

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<v Speaker 4>the irresistible force and the immovable object, and both of them,

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<v Speaker 4>both the irresistible force and the immovable objects, are getting

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<v Speaker 4>stronger as we go.

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<v Speaker 6>The irresistible force is the.

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<v Speaker 4>Widespread disapproval of Trump and dissatisfaction with the economy. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>if you go back to twenty eighteen and the Exit Pole,

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<v Speaker 4>Trump's approved writing was forty five percent. It is not

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<v Speaker 4>going to be forty five percent in all likelihood on

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<v Speaker 4>election day this year. I mean, it may not be

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<v Speaker 4>as low as it is now in the high thirties,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know, I think at best it's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be in the low forties.

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<v Speaker 6>So Trump is probably going.

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<v Speaker 4>To be more unpopular today than he was on election

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<v Speaker 4>day in twenty eighteen. Second, you know, in the twenty

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<v Speaker 4>eighteen EXI Pole, two thirds of voters described the economy

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<v Speaker 4>in positive terms. You know, even as Democrats who are

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<v Speaker 4>winning forty plus House seats, It's probably going to be

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<v Speaker 4>two thirds describing it in negative terms this time. So

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<v Speaker 4>I think, you know, if you think of those kind

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<v Speaker 4>of attitudes as the motor that drives the wave, there's

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<v Speaker 4>every reason believe the democratic now, the democratic overall democratic

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<v Speaker 4>performance will be even better, I think than the wave

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<v Speaker 4>behind them is even stronger than it was in twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 4>I will put one caveat on that in a minute,

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<v Speaker 4>But so like the wave looks to me like it

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<v Speaker 4>could be very high. Democrats won the popular vote by

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<v Speaker 4>eight and a half points in twenty eighteen when Trump

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<v Speaker 4>was at forty five. Could they win the popular vote

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<v Speaker 4>by more if he's at forty one or forty two

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<v Speaker 4>and two thirds of the country is dissatisfied with the economy.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that's possible. Now.

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<v Speaker 4>The other side of the equation is the immovable object,

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<v Speaker 4>which is that to a greater extent than in twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 4>this election is being fought out on Republican terrain. Right

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<v Speaker 4>in twenty eighteen, you had what about two dozen House

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<v Speaker 4>Republicans and districts that voted for Clinton two years earlier. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>before the redistricting, you only had three, and even kind

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<v Speaker 4>of more broadly, in twenty eighteen, you still had the

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<v Speaker 4>remnants of all of these House Republicans who who were

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<v Speaker 4>holding on in suburban way collar districts outside of the South.

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<v Speaker 4>Even in the South, I guess a couple mostly outside

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<v Speaker 4>of the South that had been voting Democratic at the

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<v Speaker 4>presidential level since Bill Clinton and Democrats really cleaned them

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<v Speaker 4>out in twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 6>Three quarters of the House seats that.

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<v Speaker 4>Democrats won in twenty eighteen had more white college graduates

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<v Speaker 4>than the national average.

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<v Speaker 6>It was kind of the bookend.

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<v Speaker 4>I look at twenty eighteen as the book end to

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<v Speaker 4>twenty ten and twenty ten. The Republicans cleaned out the

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<v Speaker 4>last blue dog Democrats who were surviving in heavily blue

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<v Speaker 4>collar rural districts that have been voting Republican for twenty

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<v Speaker 4>thirty years, and they kind of wiped all of them out.

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<v Speaker 4>And then Democrats in twenty eighteen did the same with

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<v Speaker 4>the kind of suburban in the nineties they used to

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<v Speaker 4>call gypsy moth Republicans. So as a result, there really

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01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:48.399
<v Speaker 4>aren't that many more of those white collar seats left

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<v Speaker 4>to win in twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 6>There are a few.

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<v Speaker 4>There's Mike Lawler, there's Tom Kaine Junior, there's Don Bacon's seat,

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01:11:53.800 --> 01:11:56.680
<v Speaker 4>there's Brian Fitzpatrick. But most of the seats that Democrats

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<v Speaker 4>are targeting this year in the House in very encounterpoint

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01:12:00.800 --> 01:12:05.079
<v Speaker 4>to twenty eighteen have more non college whites than the

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01:12:05.159 --> 01:12:07.479
<v Speaker 4>national average, And of course that is a real challenge.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, you look at districts in Ohio

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<v Speaker 4>and Iowa and Michigan and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. That is

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<v Speaker 4>a big chunk of what Democrats are trying to win back,

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<v Speaker 4>and most of those seats are more heavily white, blue

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<v Speaker 4>collar than the national average. Same story in the Senate.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, eight of the ten seats that both

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<v Speaker 4>sides considered the most competitive in the Senate I wrote

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<v Speaker 4>about this a few months ago, have more blue collar

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<v Speaker 4>whites in the national average. And you know, if you

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<v Speaker 4>kind of look at it by presidential vote, you have Maine,

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<v Speaker 4>and as we've talked about before, let me just take

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<v Speaker 4>one step back. You know, Senate results and presidential vote

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01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:47.720
<v Speaker 4>are just much more correlated than when even you got

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<v Speaker 4>started in this much less meat. You know, there are

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<v Speaker 4>twenty five states that voted three times for Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>Republicans now have all fifty of their Senate seats, which

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<v Speaker 4>obviously makes it tough. I mean, you're kind of seating

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<v Speaker 4>fifthfty seats at the start. You know, he's a pretty

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<v Speaker 4>narrow pathway. There are nineteen states that voted three times

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<v Speaker 4>against Trump. Democrats have thirty seven of their thirty eight,

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<v Speaker 4>with Susan Collins as the last exception. And then there

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<v Speaker 4>are six states that have flipped back and forth at

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<v Speaker 4>any time in the three Trump races, and Democrats now

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<v Speaker 4>have ten of their twelve Senate seats, and that is very.

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<v Speaker 6>Much the way I look at the Senate.

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<v Speaker 4>The job for the Democrats is, first of all, to

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<v Speaker 4>beat Susan Collins, to get rid of the last Republican

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<v Speaker 4>left in the thirty among the thirty eight in the

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<v Speaker 4>states that voted three times against Trump. They've got to

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<v Speaker 4>defend two seats in the flip states, which is Georgia

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<v Speaker 4>and Michigan.

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<v Speaker 6>But ultimately they have to break.

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<v Speaker 4>Into not only in the near term, but in the

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<v Speaker 4>long term, because it's obviously not you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 4>a not a plausible strategy to give fifty seats away

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<v Speaker 4>at the start. They have to break back into the

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<v Speaker 4>Trump three times states.

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<v Speaker 6>So what do you got.

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<v Speaker 4>You have North Carolina, which he only won narrowly. But

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<v Speaker 4>after that, every other state they have to win in

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<v Speaker 4>the Senate. Trump win by double digits two years ago,

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<v Speaker 4>which is not easy. That's probably in order, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>North Carolina, Alaska, Ohio, Texas, Iowa, right, and if you

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<v Speaker 4>don't win Maine, if you don't convert Maine, and you

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<v Speaker 4>and I are in different places about Maine, we should

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<v Speaker 4>probably talk about it at some point. If you don't

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01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:18.079
<v Speaker 4>convert Maine. You got to win three senences in states

1457
01:14:18.119 --> 01:14:20.439
<v Speaker 4>Trump won by double digits two years ago, and that's

1458
01:14:20.479 --> 01:14:23.680
<v Speaker 4>asking a lot. So overall, I would say Democrats that

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01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:26.640
<v Speaker 4>the conditions are more favorable to Democrats than in twenty two,

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01:14:26.680 --> 01:14:29.319
<v Speaker 4>with the exception that you've had the Biden presidency in

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01:14:29.399 --> 01:14:32.199
<v Speaker 4>the middle and that definitely took, you know, put a

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01:14:32.279 --> 01:14:34.920
<v Speaker 4>dent in the Democratic image that matters. I think that

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01:14:35.720 --> 01:14:37.800
<v Speaker 4>the party outside of the White House, their image matters

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01:14:37.920 --> 01:14:41.159
<v Speaker 4>less than the performance of the president in the midterm.

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01:14:41.319 --> 01:14:45.840
<v Speaker 4>But nonetheless it's there. Conditions should be overall better for Democrats,

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01:14:45.840 --> 01:14:49.000
<v Speaker 4>but the Republicans have built stronger defenses, both in terms

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01:14:49.039 --> 01:14:52.479
<v Speaker 4>of the inherent nature of the of the playing field

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01:14:52.479 --> 01:14:54.359
<v Speaker 4>and also the Jerryman during that's happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's that's a very good summary of where we

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01:14:57.920 --> 01:15:00.840
<v Speaker 1>are right now. So thank you. Let's let's dive into Maine.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my next question anyway, because you know, we

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01:15:04.520 --> 01:15:07.279
<v Speaker 1>had the primary this week. Also, as you mentioned, like

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01:15:07.319 --> 01:15:10.279
<v Speaker 1>you've been sounding the alarm about the electoral risk Democrats

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01:15:10.319 --> 01:15:13.239
<v Speaker 1>are taken. With Graham Plattner, and since everyone's heard enough

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01:15:13.239 --> 01:15:17.039
<v Speaker 1>of my not quite as worried view, want to I

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01:15:17.079 --> 01:15:19.479
<v Speaker 1>want folks to hear a good, smart counter, but give it.

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01:15:19.560 --> 01:15:20.960
<v Speaker 6>You want to give them the full worried view.

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<v Speaker 4>Look Susan Collins, as I say, is an anomaly or

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01:15:25.039 --> 01:15:26.960
<v Speaker 4>a unicorn, whatever you want to call her. As I said,

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01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:31.319
<v Speaker 4>she is the only Republican left in the nineteen states

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01:15:31.439 --> 01:15:33.800
<v Speaker 4>that voted three times against Trump thirty seven to one.

1482
01:15:34.079 --> 01:15:38.159
<v Speaker 4>She's the one. In Trump's first term, she was the

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01:15:38.199 --> 01:15:42.760
<v Speaker 4>only Republican senator or challenger, according to the exit polls,

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01:15:42.800 --> 01:15:44.960
<v Speaker 4>who won in a state when more people disapproved than

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01:15:44.960 --> 01:15:48.359
<v Speaker 4>approved of his performance as president. She was also the

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01:15:48.399 --> 01:15:53.479
<v Speaker 4>only Republican Senate incumbent or challenger to hold their Democratic

1487
01:15:53.520 --> 01:15:56.439
<v Speaker 4>opponent to less than eighty nine percent of the people

1488
01:15:56.439 --> 01:16:00.199
<v Speaker 4>who disapproved of Trump. Sarah Gideon in twenty twenty only

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01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:01.520
<v Speaker 4>won seventy one.

1490
01:16:01.800 --> 01:16:03.319
<v Speaker 6>Percent of Trump disapprovers.

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01:16:03.479 --> 01:16:06.439
<v Speaker 4>Every other Democratic Senate candidate during the first Trump term

1492
01:16:06.600 --> 01:16:09.079
<v Speaker 4>one at least eighty nine percent of Trump disapprovers. You know,

1493
01:16:09.680 --> 01:16:14.319
<v Speaker 4>and that relationship is not getting weaker generally. Jay Jones

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01:16:14.439 --> 01:16:19.479
<v Speaker 4>in Virginia one eighty nine percent of Trump disapprovers. Cheryl

1495
01:16:19.680 --> 01:16:23.000
<v Speaker 4>and Spanberger won ninety three to ninety four percent of

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01:16:23.039 --> 01:16:26.319
<v Speaker 4>Trump disapprovers there was a poll from the University of

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01:16:26.359 --> 01:16:31.000
<v Speaker 4>Massachusetts at Lowell, even before the latest rounds of revelations

1498
01:16:31.079 --> 01:16:34.880
<v Speaker 4>about sexting and the New York Times story about his

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01:16:34.960 --> 01:16:39.560
<v Speaker 4>relationships with former partners, that found Platner winning seventy four

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01:16:39.640 --> 01:16:45.960
<v Speaker 4>percent of Trump disapprovers In me. That is Susan Collins's superpower.

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01:16:46.039 --> 01:16:48.760
<v Speaker 4>She is able to get to a greater extent than

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01:16:48.800 --> 01:16:52.000
<v Speaker 4>any Republican anywhere. She is able to get any other

1503
01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:54.319
<v Speaker 4>Republican anywhere. She's able to get voters to disapprove of

1504
01:16:54.359 --> 01:16:57.800
<v Speaker 4>Trump to vote for her, especially older women. And the

1505
01:16:57.880 --> 01:17:02.039
<v Speaker 4>key to her Why did she win in twenty twenty

1506
01:17:02.119 --> 01:17:04.159
<v Speaker 4>in a state where Trump's disapproval in the exit pole

1507
01:17:04.239 --> 01:17:06.439
<v Speaker 4>was fifty eight percent and obviously Biden won the state

1508
01:17:06.439 --> 01:17:09.600
<v Speaker 4>by I think nine nine points. The reason is because

1509
01:17:09.640 --> 01:17:14.039
<v Speaker 4>she ran really far ahead of Trump among older white women.

1510
01:17:15.039 --> 01:17:17.640
<v Speaker 4>Both in the exitpol and the APVO cast are two

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01:17:17.720 --> 01:17:20.319
<v Speaker 4>major sources of you know, voter behavior at the state level.

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01:17:21.560 --> 01:17:22.720
<v Speaker 6>Collins A.

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01:17:22.800 --> 01:17:28.000
<v Speaker 4>Gideon ran fifteen points behind Biden among women forty five plus. Now,

1514
01:17:28.039 --> 01:17:30.640
<v Speaker 4>when I started doing that doing this in the eighties,

1515
01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:34.000
<v Speaker 4>things like that happened. They don't happen anymore. You do

1516
01:17:34.119 --> 01:17:37.239
<v Speaker 4>not have a major demographic group that veers off by

1517
01:17:37.319 --> 01:17:41.000
<v Speaker 4>fifteen points between how they view the president and how

1518
01:17:41.039 --> 01:17:43.920
<v Speaker 4>they view other candidates. You know, that's why Republicans have

1519
01:17:44.000 --> 01:17:46.039
<v Speaker 4>all fifty Senate seats in the twenty five states, Trump

1520
01:17:46.119 --> 01:17:48.680
<v Speaker 4>one three times, not because they're all great candidates. It's

1521
01:17:48.760 --> 01:17:53.039
<v Speaker 4>because those attitudes really shape things. So Platner seems to me.

1522
01:17:54.199 --> 01:17:57.000
<v Speaker 4>I would not say you cannot say Platiner can't win

1523
01:17:57.560 --> 01:18:01.159
<v Speaker 4>that in this environment, Trump is weaker than he was

1524
01:18:01.159 --> 01:18:04.159
<v Speaker 4>in twenty twenty, is disapproval is now over sixty in Maine.

1525
01:18:04.319 --> 01:18:06.600
<v Speaker 4>And Collins is weaker than she was in twenty twenty

1526
01:18:06.640 --> 01:18:10.279
<v Speaker 4>because you know, she Brett Kavanaugh in the interim between

1527
01:18:10.279 --> 01:18:12.880
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty and now voted to overturn Roe v. Wade

1528
01:18:12.960 --> 01:18:15.479
<v Speaker 4>after she's stood on the Centi Forum promised she would

1529
01:18:15.560 --> 01:18:18.039
<v Speaker 4>she would not, he would not. So I would not

1530
01:18:18.119 --> 01:18:20.439
<v Speaker 4>say Platner can't win. I will say that Platiner makes

1531
01:18:20.439 --> 01:18:22.960
<v Speaker 4>it a lot harder than it has to be because

1532
01:18:23.000 --> 01:18:28.000
<v Speaker 4>his vulnerabilities I think map ominously over her strengths. I mean,

1533
01:18:28.159 --> 01:18:31.720
<v Speaker 4>I look at older white women as a prime audience

1534
01:18:31.760 --> 01:18:35.199
<v Speaker 4>to be worried about all of the things that have

1535
01:18:35.279 --> 01:18:37.319
<v Speaker 4>come out about it. And I also think, and I

1536
01:18:37.359 --> 01:18:40.039
<v Speaker 4>haven't talked about this as much, I think his strengths

1537
01:18:40.039 --> 01:18:42.800
<v Speaker 4>are less relevant and Maine than they might be elsewhere.

1538
01:18:43.039 --> 01:18:45.680
<v Speaker 4>I mean, if the guy's strength is that he you know,

1539
01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:48.840
<v Speaker 4>and it does seem legit that he can mobilize a

1540
01:18:48.880 --> 01:18:51.760
<v Speaker 4>lot of younger non voters, kind of a Trump thing

1541
01:18:51.800 --> 01:18:52.399
<v Speaker 4>in reverse.

1542
01:18:53.359 --> 01:18:53.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean main.

1543
01:18:54.079 --> 01:18:57.319
<v Speaker 4>I mean, this isn't Georgia or Texas or you know,

1544
01:18:57.359 --> 01:19:00.199
<v Speaker 4>even Wisconsin, where you have a huge pool of on

1545
01:19:00.319 --> 01:19:03.199
<v Speaker 4>voting young people. You have like the second or third

1546
01:19:03.319 --> 01:19:07.159
<v Speaker 4>oldest electorate in the country. I mean, your job, the

1547
01:19:07.359 --> 01:19:10.600
<v Speaker 4>job of a Democrat in Maine in twenty twenty six

1548
01:19:11.600 --> 01:19:15.199
<v Speaker 4>is not to mobilize new voters. It's not even to

1549
01:19:15.239 --> 01:19:18.239
<v Speaker 4>persuade a majority that Trump and the Republicans are taking

1550
01:19:18.279 --> 01:19:20.800
<v Speaker 4>the country in the wrong direction, because a majority, a

1551
01:19:20.920 --> 01:19:24.319
<v Speaker 4>big majority, already believed that in Maine. The job of

1552
01:19:24.319 --> 01:19:28.079
<v Speaker 4>the Democratic Senny candidate in Maine is to reassure the

1553
01:19:28.079 --> 01:19:31.399
<v Speaker 4>majority who already think Trump and the Republicans are taking

1554
01:19:31.399 --> 01:19:33.119
<v Speaker 4>the state in the wrong direction that it's okay to

1555
01:19:33.159 --> 01:19:36.199
<v Speaker 4>vote against Collins and that you are a reasonable alternative.

1556
01:19:36.239 --> 01:19:39.680
<v Speaker 4>And I think Platner again, he could win, but he

1557
01:19:39.800 --> 01:19:42.720
<v Speaker 4>introduces a tremendous amount of risk in that equation that

1558
01:19:42.760 --> 01:19:45.520
<v Speaker 4>doesn't need to be there. He has until July thirteen.

1559
01:19:45.520 --> 01:19:47.760
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you've talked about this. Under main law,

1560
01:19:48.439 --> 01:19:50.640
<v Speaker 4>they can't push him out at this point, but he

1561
01:19:50.680 --> 01:19:53.560
<v Speaker 4>has until July thirteenth to step aside. And as I

1562
01:19:53.600 --> 01:19:56.319
<v Speaker 4>pointed out in a column this week, they've had they

1563
01:19:56.359 --> 01:19:59.960
<v Speaker 4>have really good candidates in the gubernatorial primary for candid

1564
01:20:00.119 --> 01:20:01.720
<v Speaker 4>It's got over twenty percent of the vote in the

1565
01:20:01.720 --> 01:20:03.039
<v Speaker 4>first round, including.

1566
01:20:02.720 --> 01:20:06.199
<v Speaker 6>Three who have very broad support on the left.

1567
01:20:06.239 --> 01:20:09.600
<v Speaker 4>And I do think that if there are more negative

1568
01:20:09.600 --> 01:20:12.159
<v Speaker 4>stories that come out, or if simply there are a

1569
01:20:12.199 --> 01:20:16.399
<v Speaker 4>lot of polls that raise you worrying direction between now

1570
01:20:16.399 --> 01:20:20.640
<v Speaker 4>and then, it would it would be in the interest

1571
01:20:20.680 --> 01:20:23.399
<v Speaker 4>of Democrats to kind of look at some of those alternatives,

1572
01:20:24.159 --> 01:20:28.800
<v Speaker 4>because I do think, and this will really get the mailbag,

1573
01:20:28.920 --> 01:20:31.760
<v Speaker 4>I do think that the forces that are the national

1574
01:20:31.800 --> 01:20:37.159
<v Speaker 4>forces behind Platiner, particularly the Sanders Warren orbit, are so

1575
01:20:37.279 --> 01:20:40.439
<v Speaker 4>determined to prove that their model is the right model

1576
01:20:40.439 --> 01:20:43.319
<v Speaker 4>for how Democrats come back, that they have lost sight

1577
01:20:43.359 --> 01:20:47.399
<v Speaker 4>of the actual human being that they are betting on

1578
01:20:47.600 --> 01:20:50.119
<v Speaker 4>and the place that they are testing it. And they

1579
01:20:50.119 --> 01:20:52.159
<v Speaker 4>seem to be more interested in beating Schumern in the

1580
01:20:52.159 --> 01:20:54.600
<v Speaker 4>primary than in beating Collins in the general.

1581
01:20:54.800 --> 01:21:00.039
<v Speaker 1>It's funny, I wouldn't say my bullishness. Maybe not. I

1582
01:21:00.039 --> 01:21:02.920
<v Speaker 1>wild say I'm not as barish as you. And the

1583
01:21:02.960 --> 01:21:06.159
<v Speaker 1>reason is actually has nothing to do with thinking that

1584
01:21:06.359 --> 01:21:10.680
<v Speaker 1>the Sanders model is the is the model or this

1585
01:21:10.800 --> 01:21:12.840
<v Speaker 1>is the proven ground for that. I actually think that

1586
01:21:14.159 --> 01:21:17.520
<v Speaker 1>just to talk about Collins, right, she has so she's

1587
01:21:17.560 --> 01:21:22.520
<v Speaker 1>never been this unpopular, right, She's never run a competitive

1588
01:21:22.640 --> 01:21:26.960
<v Speaker 1>race with a midterm electorate, which is like a whole

1589
01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:28.920
<v Speaker 1>new thing, as you know, right, And so we keep

1590
01:21:28.960 --> 01:21:32.159
<v Speaker 1>talking about the Saragideon example. But the Saragidion example is

1591
01:21:32.199 --> 01:21:35.359
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty, when you've got a whole presidential electorate, which,

1592
01:21:35.439 --> 01:21:38.000
<v Speaker 1>as we know and we've talked about and the audience

1593
01:21:38.119 --> 01:21:41.199
<v Speaker 1>probably knows by now, is is just in this era

1594
01:21:41.399 --> 01:21:44.800
<v Speaker 1>better for Republicans, right, because you bring out more of

1595
01:21:44.840 --> 01:21:46.840
<v Speaker 1>the non college less engaged voters.

1596
01:21:47.520 --> 01:21:51.319
<v Speaker 4>Generally speaking, midterm elections, the electorate is two three, even

1597
01:21:51.319 --> 01:21:54.079
<v Speaker 4>four points more college educated than the presidential the probably

1598
01:21:54.159 --> 01:21:55.279
<v Speaker 4>is presidential.

1599
01:21:55.640 --> 01:21:57.760
<v Speaker 1>And then you have and then you have a midterm electorate.

1600
01:21:57.800 --> 01:22:00.319
<v Speaker 1>So now she's running in her first competitive mid term

1601
01:22:00.319 --> 01:22:04.800
<v Speaker 1>electorate and one that is this favorable to Democrats, and

1602
01:22:04.920 --> 01:22:07.600
<v Speaker 1>the state has moved left since twenty twenty, and I

1603
01:22:07.680 --> 01:22:10.960
<v Speaker 1>think in there in twenty twenty four main swing right

1604
01:22:11.520 --> 01:22:13.920
<v Speaker 1>was maybe the one of the smallest, if not the

1605
01:22:13.960 --> 01:22:15.840
<v Speaker 1>smallest in the in the country.

1606
01:22:16.119 --> 01:22:18.439
<v Speaker 4>So those are all the reasons, as I say, he

1607
01:22:18.520 --> 01:22:21.159
<v Speaker 4>can win. There's no question he can win. There's any

1608
01:22:21.720 --> 01:22:25.000
<v Speaker 4>given the overall climate, given the specific as you say,

1609
01:22:25.359 --> 01:22:27.920
<v Speaker 4>Collins is weaker than she was in twenty twenty, Trump

1610
01:22:27.960 --> 01:22:30.560
<v Speaker 4>is more unpopular than he was in twenty twenty in Maine.

1611
01:22:30.560 --> 01:22:33.560
<v Speaker 4>So you can't say that any Democrat can't win. It's

1612
01:22:33.720 --> 01:22:35.680
<v Speaker 4>just that this is much more of a jump ball

1613
01:22:35.720 --> 01:22:38.319
<v Speaker 4>than it should be because of his unique ball on Bills,

1614
01:22:38.359 --> 01:22:39.239
<v Speaker 4>I kind of like.

1615
01:22:39.399 --> 01:22:45.279
<v Speaker 1>Are you surprised at how weak Mills was and still

1616
01:22:45.319 --> 01:22:47.119
<v Speaker 1>is in all these I mean even that pole. There's

1617
01:22:47.159 --> 01:22:50.079
<v Speaker 1>a poll out right before the primary where I think

1618
01:22:50.119 --> 01:22:52.560
<v Speaker 1>that Mills was like the first pole where Mills did

1619
01:22:52.960 --> 01:22:55.840
<v Speaker 1>slightly better than Platner against Collins, but still by only

1620
01:22:55.880 --> 01:22:58.279
<v Speaker 1>like one point two points. Like, I don't get how

1621
01:22:58.319 --> 01:23:02.560
<v Speaker 1>that Mills doing poorly and Gideon doing that poorly also

1622
01:23:02.640 --> 01:23:05.920
<v Speaker 1>makes me think, like what is it about those candidates

1623
01:23:06.239 --> 01:23:11.239
<v Speaker 1>who seem like they should fit the older women in

1624
01:23:11.359 --> 01:23:14.760
<v Speaker 1>main sort of voter model that you were talking about.

1625
01:23:15.520 --> 01:23:19.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, I'm not an

1626
01:23:19.560 --> 01:23:22.119
<v Speaker 4>expert on Mills' relationships in the state, but there's no

1627
01:23:22.239 --> 01:23:25.119
<v Speaker 4>question she's conflicted pretty consistently with a lot of the

1628
01:23:25.159 --> 01:23:28.840
<v Speaker 4>same liberal groups in the state that are that are

1629
01:23:28.840 --> 01:23:33.720
<v Speaker 4>promoting Platiner. And you know, would one of the other

1630
01:23:33.800 --> 01:23:36.920
<v Speaker 4>alternatives in the governor race have done better against him

1631
01:23:36.920 --> 01:23:40.079
<v Speaker 4>in the end than Mills did. I think I think

1632
01:23:40.079 --> 01:23:42.560
<v Speaker 4>that's you know, I mean Hannah Pingree, former Speaker of

1633
01:23:42.600 --> 01:23:46.560
<v Speaker 4>the House, Troy Jackson, Bernie Drst and the governor race,

1634
01:23:47.600 --> 01:23:51.840
<v Speaker 4>former Senate president, and then Shinabellos, who was now the

1635
01:23:51.880 --> 01:23:54.439
<v Speaker 4>Secretary of State, who was kind of the sacrificial lamb

1636
01:23:54.479 --> 01:23:56.760
<v Speaker 4>against Collins in twenty fourteen when she was much younger

1637
01:23:56.800 --> 01:23:58.880
<v Speaker 4>and at that point I think had only been.

1638
01:23:58.760 --> 01:24:02.439
<v Speaker 6>The head of the state ac you uh, you know.

1639
01:24:02.880 --> 01:24:05.840
<v Speaker 4>The thing the thing about the thing about Mills is

1640
01:24:06.039 --> 01:24:08.439
<v Speaker 4>the thing I felt about Mills was that if she

1641
01:24:08.520 --> 01:24:10.399
<v Speaker 4>got to the general election, it wasn't clear to me

1642
01:24:10.479 --> 01:24:13.319
<v Speaker 4>what Collins would run against her on, Like if she

1643
01:24:13.439 --> 01:24:16.800
<v Speaker 4>was one point ahead now The thing about the thing

1644
01:24:16.840 --> 01:24:19.720
<v Speaker 4>about Platner is he gives them a lot to work

1645
01:24:19.760 --> 01:24:22.000
<v Speaker 4>with and it may not prove this positive. It may

1646
01:24:22.039 --> 01:24:25.760
<v Speaker 4>be that everything else is sufficient. But it introduced, you know,

1647
01:24:25.800 --> 01:24:29.000
<v Speaker 4>to to put him over the top. But it introduced

1648
01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:33.680
<v Speaker 4>a level of risk that I think is just unnecessary.

1649
01:24:33.760 --> 01:24:36.000
<v Speaker 4>And I think just like I said, I feel like

1650
01:24:36.520 --> 01:24:41.479
<v Speaker 4>many of the national forces in particular that are pushing

1651
01:24:41.520 --> 01:24:43.960
<v Speaker 4>Platter are just so determined to show that this is

1652
01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:47.079
<v Speaker 4>the right way for Democrats to win that they are

1653
01:24:47.119 --> 01:24:49.199
<v Speaker 4>not willing to acknowledge a this may not be the

1654
01:24:49.279 --> 01:24:51.640
<v Speaker 4>right place to test the theory, and I'm not sure

1655
01:24:51.640 --> 01:24:56.640
<v Speaker 4>it is. But b you know, like the candidates are

1656
01:24:56.640 --> 01:24:58.960
<v Speaker 4>not just like on It's like baseball. You could be

1657
01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:00.920
<v Speaker 4>the greatest prospect in the world. You actually got to

1658
01:25:00.920 --> 01:25:04.079
<v Speaker 4>go out and do it. And the realities that he

1659
01:25:04.199 --> 01:25:06.600
<v Speaker 4>is presenting them with, they are just powering through. And

1660
01:25:06.600 --> 01:25:08.800
<v Speaker 4>people say, well, you know, switching to Kamala Harris didn't

1661
01:25:08.840 --> 01:25:12.159
<v Speaker 4>work that well late in twenty four, I would say

1662
01:25:12.199 --> 01:25:14.199
<v Speaker 4>it worked out better than trying to stay the course.

1663
01:25:14.560 --> 01:25:18.319
<v Speaker 4>Like I'm not sure that Alyssa Slotckin and Reuben Diego

1664
01:25:18.359 --> 01:25:21.159
<v Speaker 4>and Jackie Rosen wouldn't say it worked out pretty.

1665
01:25:20.920 --> 01:25:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, But this is I was thinking about that. Like

1666
01:25:23.720 --> 01:25:28.880
<v Speaker 1>to me between now in July thirteenth, the easier scenario

1667
01:25:29.079 --> 01:25:32.199
<v Speaker 1>in some ways is if there are if like a

1668
01:25:32.279 --> 01:25:35.640
<v Speaker 1>ton of really damaging stories, or even one story that

1669
01:25:35.840 --> 01:25:39.560
<v Speaker 1>it's much more damaging, comes out and suddenly you see

1670
01:25:39.560 --> 01:25:43.399
<v Speaker 1>poles where he's down five, six, seven, eight, right, then

1671
01:25:43.439 --> 01:25:48.159
<v Speaker 1>it becomes like fairly easy, not easy, but easier for

1672
01:25:48.560 --> 01:25:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Democrats in Maine, which would would have to be to

1673
01:25:50.840 --> 01:25:52.720
<v Speaker 1>like go to the campaign and try to convince them

1674
01:25:52.720 --> 01:25:56.279
<v Speaker 1>to drop out. I think if there's like a few

1675
01:25:56.319 --> 01:25:58.840
<v Speaker 1>polls showing it tied or he's a point or two behind,

1676
01:25:58.920 --> 01:26:01.279
<v Speaker 1>and then there's no big storyries or maybe just one

1677
01:26:01.399 --> 01:26:03.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of in the middle story acture, then it's really

1678
01:26:03.920 --> 01:26:07.039
<v Speaker 1>hard to go to someone who did better in the

1679
01:26:07.079 --> 01:26:10.640
<v Speaker 1>primary than Sarah Gideon did when she was facing two

1680
01:26:11.000 --> 01:26:13.359
<v Speaker 1>kind of no names in twenty twenty and say, okay,

1681
01:26:13.359 --> 01:26:15.680
<v Speaker 1>you got more votes than the last nominee against Husan Collins,

1682
01:26:15.720 --> 01:26:17.600
<v Speaker 1>but now we're gonna make now we should push you

1683
01:26:17.600 --> 01:26:19.680
<v Speaker 1>aside because we're worried like that to me is the

1684
01:26:19.760 --> 01:26:23.720
<v Speaker 1>tougher that that introduces another that introduces risk that I

1685
01:26:23.760 --> 01:26:26.720
<v Speaker 1>think is greater, maybe than the risk we have right now.

1686
01:26:26.720 --> 01:26:29.800
<v Speaker 4>To the extent it is Republicans and not the media

1687
01:26:29.840 --> 01:26:33.279
<v Speaker 4>who has access to more damaging information. They're not gonna

1688
01:26:33.279 --> 01:26:34.319
<v Speaker 4>put it out before July.

1689
01:26:34.119 --> 01:26:36.479
<v Speaker 1>Thhich certainly not. But it feels like the media would

1690
01:26:36.479 --> 01:26:36.760
<v Speaker 1>get there.

1691
01:26:36.800 --> 01:26:41.640
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, but on their own, you know. Look

1692
01:26:42.159 --> 01:26:45.560
<v Speaker 4>like I like, we keep saying he can win. There's

1693
01:26:45.560 --> 01:26:48.960
<v Speaker 4>no guarantee he's gonna win, and he gives he gives her,

1694
01:26:49.399 --> 01:26:51.960
<v Speaker 4>he gives her an opportunity to play the cards she's

1695
01:26:51.960 --> 01:26:54.279
<v Speaker 4>played before. I mean, it's it's you know. I mean,

1696
01:26:54.279 --> 01:26:58.720
<v Speaker 4>it's it's it's you know. And and I like, like

1697
01:26:58.720 --> 01:27:01.199
<v Speaker 4>we're saying, you know, the if you don't if you

1698
01:27:01.279 --> 01:27:03.600
<v Speaker 4>don't win Maine, you got to win three out of

1699
01:27:03.680 --> 01:27:06.720
<v Speaker 4>four in Alaska or Ohio, Texas and Iowa. I mean

1700
01:27:06.760 --> 01:27:09.760
<v Speaker 4>that's asking a lot. I mean, in the long run,

1701
01:27:10.239 --> 01:27:13.159
<v Speaker 4>Democrats have to start competing again in these heavily blue

1702
01:27:13.159 --> 01:27:17.359
<v Speaker 4>collar Trump three time states. But you know, flipping and

1703
01:27:17.800 --> 01:27:21.560
<v Speaker 4>maybe the war goes on. Gas prices stay high, Trump

1704
01:27:21.600 --> 01:27:25.199
<v Speaker 4>stays under forty, Like, if Trump stays under forty, yeah,

1705
01:27:25.439 --> 01:27:28.079
<v Speaker 4>I could see them flipping three of those four conceivably.

1706
01:27:28.600 --> 01:27:30.760
<v Speaker 4>But if he gets back to the low forties, which

1707
01:27:30.800 --> 01:27:33.279
<v Speaker 4>I still would bet on on election day. Then you

1708
01:27:33.319 --> 01:27:35.920
<v Speaker 4>know that's asking a lot to win three of those

1709
01:27:35.960 --> 01:27:36.520
<v Speaker 4>four states.

1710
01:27:36.680 --> 01:27:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, let's leave Maine and talk about those four states.

1711
01:27:39.720 --> 01:27:42.720
<v Speaker 1>Like what, I think you sort of ordered them earlier quickly,

1712
01:27:42.760 --> 01:27:45.159
<v Speaker 1>but I would just love like you know, you have

1713
01:27:45.640 --> 01:27:50.479
<v Speaker 1>financial decisions if you're the Democrats, Like Texas is a

1714
01:27:50.600 --> 01:27:55.600
<v Speaker 1>very expensive, very big state to compete in Alaska, Iowa

1715
01:27:55.720 --> 01:27:58.439
<v Speaker 1>not as much. Ohio's obviously they're going to go on

1716
01:27:58.560 --> 01:28:00.560
<v Speaker 1>in in Ohio. How do you look at those four

1717
01:28:00.600 --> 01:28:04.880
<v Speaker 1>states in terms of feasibility for in flipping them?

1718
01:28:05.079 --> 01:28:07.039
<v Speaker 4>And so you got North Carolina, which which looks pretty

1719
01:28:07.039 --> 01:28:09.199
<v Speaker 4>good for Democrats. Now, I mean I think Republicans could

1720
01:28:09.239 --> 01:28:12.279
<v Speaker 4>end up pulling the plug there. So like to me,

1721
01:28:12.479 --> 01:28:14.159
<v Speaker 4>like you as I said to you before, Like and

1722
01:28:14.199 --> 01:28:17.880
<v Speaker 4>Trump's first term, Susan Collins is the only Republican who

1723
01:28:17.920 --> 01:28:20.159
<v Speaker 4>won an estate where according to the exit poem, more

1724
01:28:20.159 --> 01:28:23.079
<v Speaker 4>people disapproved than approved of his performance. So if you're

1725
01:28:23.119 --> 01:28:27.680
<v Speaker 4>thinking about Alaska, Ohio, Iowa, and Texas, they're all probably

1726
01:28:27.680 --> 01:28:30.520
<v Speaker 4>going to be right at the tipping point. Either he's

1727
01:28:30.560 --> 01:28:34.560
<v Speaker 4>either going to be slightly above fifty or maybe more

1728
01:28:34.680 --> 01:28:38.039
<v Speaker 4>likely below fifty. I mean, you know, I saw was

1729
01:28:38.079 --> 01:28:40.800
<v Speaker 4>it the argument that knew that? You know, la Kesha

1730
01:28:40.960 --> 01:28:44.960
<v Speaker 4>Jane and my former colleague at The Atlantic Jerusalem, they

1731
01:28:45.039 --> 01:28:49.560
<v Speaker 4>tried to use their polling to project Trump's approval in

1732
01:28:49.680 --> 01:28:51.800
<v Speaker 4>all of in all fifty states, and they had him

1733
01:28:51.840 --> 01:28:55.199
<v Speaker 4>seven points or more negative in all four of those states.

1734
01:28:55.239 --> 01:28:57.199
<v Speaker 4>And if that's the case, Democrats have a shot in

1735
01:28:57.239 --> 01:28:59.479
<v Speaker 4>any of them. Now, if you're going to rank them,

1736
01:28:59.720 --> 01:29:03.239
<v Speaker 4>I think Peltola is an unusually good candidate. Alaska has

1737
01:29:03.319 --> 01:29:05.319
<v Speaker 4>kind of unusual population dynamics.

1738
01:29:05.359 --> 01:29:09.239
<v Speaker 6>It really doesn't have a huge white blue collar population.

1739
01:29:09.840 --> 01:29:14.520
<v Speaker 4>So I think Alaska is the strongest by conventional measures.

1740
01:29:14.520 --> 01:29:16.880
<v Speaker 4>You'd have to say Ohio is the second. I mean,

1741
01:29:16.960 --> 01:29:21.439
<v Speaker 4>you know, Ohio is a big blue collar population. It's

1742
01:29:21.479 --> 01:29:23.840
<v Speaker 4>like fifty to fifty one percent of the electorate will

1743
01:29:23.840 --> 01:29:26.920
<v Speaker 4>be whites without a college degree even in a midterm year. Now,

1744
01:29:26.920 --> 01:29:30.199
<v Speaker 4>maybe that will go down to forty nine this time.

1745
01:29:31.159 --> 01:29:33.840
<v Speaker 4>And if you look at shared Brown when he won

1746
01:29:34.039 --> 01:29:36.880
<v Speaker 4>in twenty eighteen, he won forty five percent of non

1747
01:29:36.880 --> 01:29:38.760
<v Speaker 4>college whites, penty the ex of Poe. When he lost

1748
01:29:38.760 --> 01:29:41.039
<v Speaker 4>in twenty twenty four, he won thirty five percent of

1749
01:29:41.039 --> 01:29:42.760
<v Speaker 4>them so he doesn't have to get all the way

1750
01:29:42.800 --> 01:29:45.159
<v Speaker 4>back to forty five, but he does have to get

1751
01:29:45.319 --> 01:29:49.279
<v Speaker 4>somewhere north of forty probably to win.

1752
01:29:49.720 --> 01:29:50.640
<v Speaker 6>That is possible.

1753
01:29:50.760 --> 01:29:52.199
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know one thing we should have said

1754
01:29:52.199 --> 01:29:55.560
<v Speaker 4>before when I was talking about the Irresistible Force. Not

1755
01:29:55.600 --> 01:29:58.960
<v Speaker 4>only is Trump's overall approval rating down, it is well

1756
01:29:58.960 --> 01:30:01.560
<v Speaker 4>below where it has been among those non college whites,

1757
01:30:01.760 --> 01:30:03.560
<v Speaker 4>so like even in twenty eight so you know, he

1758
01:30:03.640 --> 01:30:05.439
<v Speaker 4>won two thirds of whites without a college degree in

1759
01:30:05.439 --> 01:30:08.640
<v Speaker 4>all three of his races. Even in twenty eighteen, again

1760
01:30:08.680 --> 01:30:11.159
<v Speaker 4>according to the Exit Pole, his approverriating among non college

1761
01:30:11.159 --> 01:30:14.520
<v Speaker 4>whites was sixty one percent. Now in every national poll

1762
01:30:14.600 --> 01:30:17.520
<v Speaker 4>it is right at fifty to fifty either and usually

1763
01:30:17.600 --> 01:30:21.359
<v Speaker 4>slightly below fifty to fifty at best fifty one forty

1764
01:30:21.399 --> 01:30:23.520
<v Speaker 4>eight something like, that's like the best. And then there

1765
01:30:23.520 --> 01:30:25.600
<v Speaker 4>have been polls where he's been as low as forty

1766
01:30:25.640 --> 01:30:29.800
<v Speaker 4>six among non college whites. If that's if he stays

1767
01:30:29.800 --> 01:30:32.399
<v Speaker 4>there till November, shared Brown can win. I mean, you

1768
01:30:32.439 --> 01:30:37.560
<v Speaker 4>can win. And people should take into account that when

1769
01:30:37.600 --> 01:30:39.920
<v Speaker 4>I say Trump is basically at fifty to fifty among

1770
01:30:39.960 --> 01:30:44.439
<v Speaker 4>non college whites nationwide, well, that includes evangelical Christians most

1771
01:30:44.479 --> 01:30:47.079
<v Speaker 4>of whom are non college whites and are heavily concentrated

1772
01:30:47.359 --> 01:30:50.079
<v Speaker 4>in the South. There aren't as many of them in Ohio.

1773
01:30:50.479 --> 01:30:52.560
<v Speaker 4>So if Trump is at fifty to fifty among non

1774
01:30:52.560 --> 01:30:55.600
<v Speaker 4>college whites nationally, he's probably going to be below fifty

1775
01:30:55.640 --> 01:30:59.119
<v Speaker 4>to fifty in Ohio, which makes it possible for Sharon

1776
01:30:59.159 --> 01:30:59.600
<v Speaker 4>Brown right now.

1777
01:30:59.600 --> 01:31:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I still and this is like what I was saying

1778
01:31:01.680 --> 01:31:06.560
<v Speaker 1>about Maine. Shared lost in a presidential turnout year where

1779
01:31:06.680 --> 01:31:09.520
<v Speaker 1>you have a greater share of non college whites coming

1780
01:31:09.560 --> 01:31:11.840
<v Speaker 1>into the electorate than you do in twenty eighteen when

1781
01:31:11.840 --> 01:31:14.039
<v Speaker 1>he won, which was, you know, a midterm year, and

1782
01:31:14.039 --> 01:31:16.119
<v Speaker 1>then you have fewer non college whites as a share,

1783
01:31:16.319 --> 01:31:16.479
<v Speaker 1>And I.

1784
01:31:16.479 --> 01:31:19.000
<v Speaker 4>Think Trump's approval will be lower today than it was

1785
01:31:19.239 --> 01:31:20.600
<v Speaker 4>in twenty eighteen in Ohio.

1786
01:31:21.479 --> 01:31:22.800
<v Speaker 6>You know, the difference is shared.

1787
01:31:22.800 --> 01:31:24.560
<v Speaker 4>It's been around the block a little, so there may

1788
01:31:24.560 --> 01:31:26.359
<v Speaker 4>be a little tread off the tire in terms of

1789
01:31:26.359 --> 01:31:28.840
<v Speaker 4>how voters are looking at him. I kind of feel

1790
01:31:28.840 --> 01:31:30.319
<v Speaker 4>like that's going to be the tipping point. I mean,

1791
01:31:30.479 --> 01:31:35.920
<v Speaker 4>if Democrats don't mess up Maine, if either Platner steps

1792
01:31:35.920 --> 01:31:38.800
<v Speaker 4>aside for someone more electable, or they kind of stabilize

1793
01:31:38.800 --> 01:31:40.960
<v Speaker 4>things and are able to just pound, do you really

1794
01:31:41.000 --> 01:31:43.000
<v Speaker 4>want to get Donald Trump another vote to put another

1795
01:31:43.000 --> 01:31:45.479
<v Speaker 4>Brett Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court, which seems to me

1796
01:31:45.520 --> 01:31:48.439
<v Speaker 4>their best argument. Then you look at Ohio and I'm

1797
01:31:48.560 --> 01:31:53.560
<v Speaker 4>sorry Iowa and Texas. Iowa is Ohio, but even tougher

1798
01:31:53.600 --> 01:31:56.119
<v Speaker 4>because in Ohio roughly twenty percent of the voters are

1799
01:31:56.199 --> 01:31:58.439
<v Speaker 4>non white, and Ohio and in Iowa it's only like

1800
01:31:58.479 --> 01:32:02.039
<v Speaker 4>eight or nine. College whites are more like fifty six

1801
01:32:02.119 --> 01:32:04.760
<v Speaker 4>fifty seven percent of the vote in Iowa compared to

1802
01:32:04.800 --> 01:32:06.319
<v Speaker 4>like fifty fifty.

1803
01:32:06.079 --> 01:32:06.960
<v Speaker 6>One in Ohio.

1804
01:32:07.079 --> 01:32:09.079
<v Speaker 4>And more of those non college whites in Iowa are

1805
01:32:09.119 --> 01:32:12.720
<v Speaker 4>Evangelical Christians than they are in ohi So, like, by

1806
01:32:12.760 --> 01:32:17.960
<v Speaker 4>every measure, I can't see Turrek winning before Brown wins. Like,

1807
01:32:18.640 --> 01:32:21.720
<v Speaker 4>if Turrek wins, the wave is big enough that Brown

1808
01:32:21.840 --> 01:32:25.600
<v Speaker 4>is going to win. Texas is intriguing, right, I mean,

1809
01:32:26.479 --> 01:32:29.479
<v Speaker 4>you know, if you if you look at again, like

1810
01:32:29.720 --> 01:32:32.119
<v Speaker 4>I love how you started with twenty eighteen, Beto is

1811
01:32:32.199 --> 01:32:35.239
<v Speaker 4>in twenty eighteen versus Ted Cruz. Betto a Rourke is

1812
01:32:35.359 --> 01:32:38.359
<v Speaker 4>kind of the template for any kind of competitive state

1813
01:32:38.399 --> 01:32:41.199
<v Speaker 4>wide race for Democrats in Texas. Since then, the state

1814
01:32:41.199 --> 01:32:43.399
<v Speaker 4>has added three and a half million I think is

1815
01:32:43.439 --> 01:32:46.720
<v Speaker 4>the number of new voters, and almost all of them

1816
01:32:46.760 --> 01:32:50.079
<v Speaker 4>are people of color. It's like ninety percent of the

1817
01:32:50.079 --> 01:32:53.079
<v Speaker 4>new voters. And they're Metro, right, I mean they're they're

1818
01:32:53.159 --> 01:32:56.560
<v Speaker 4>like they're in those four big metros. Beta won the

1819
01:32:56.600 --> 01:32:59.920
<v Speaker 4>four big metros, didn't win them by quite enough. Now,

1820
01:33:00.600 --> 01:33:04.319
<v Speaker 4>So you know, Richard Murray, who I love, professor Emeritith

1821
01:33:04.359 --> 01:33:06.760
<v Speaker 4>at the University of Houston, been new in Texas politics since,

1822
01:33:07.079 --> 01:33:09.479
<v Speaker 4>you know, before any.

1823
01:33:09.319 --> 01:33:12.720
<v Speaker 6>Either of us. He says that if all the groups,

1824
01:33:12.880 --> 01:33:13.960
<v Speaker 6>all the major groups.

1825
01:33:13.680 --> 01:33:17.720
<v Speaker 4>In the electorate, non college whites, college whites, Latino's, black

1826
01:33:17.920 --> 01:33:20.520
<v Speaker 4>Asian all vote the same way they did in twenty eighteen,

1827
01:33:20.560 --> 01:33:22.640
<v Speaker 4>but vote in the numbers they are present at today,

1828
01:33:22.680 --> 01:33:26.680
<v Speaker 4>Beto would win, right. So but the problem is the

1829
01:33:26.760 --> 01:33:29.760
<v Speaker 4>problem is, can you really get back to where Beto

1830
01:33:30.079 --> 01:33:33.439
<v Speaker 4>was among Latino voters, which was the low sixties. You're

1831
01:33:33.479 --> 01:33:37.520
<v Speaker 4>probably you're going to Trump. Trump won Texas Latinos and

1832
01:33:37.880 --> 01:33:40.680
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty four just kind of remarkably one like probably

1833
01:33:40.680 --> 01:33:43.960
<v Speaker 4>fifty five percent of them. That's not going to happen.

1834
01:33:44.560 --> 01:33:46.600
<v Speaker 4>Tell Rico is going to win them. But is he

1835
01:33:46.640 --> 01:33:49.239
<v Speaker 4>going to get back over sixty? You know, I mean,

1836
01:33:49.239 --> 01:33:51.600
<v Speaker 4>there's another poll out yesterday that Siena pol only had

1837
01:33:51.680 --> 01:33:52.479
<v Speaker 4>him at like fifty two.

1838
01:33:52.520 --> 01:33:54.479
<v Speaker 6>I don't think it's going to be that low. But

1839
01:33:54.960 --> 01:33:56.560
<v Speaker 6>is he going to get back to sixty?

1840
01:33:56.800 --> 01:34:00.359
<v Speaker 4>I kind of feel like the ballgame in Tech Texas

1841
01:34:00.640 --> 01:34:02.880
<v Speaker 4>and in Texas, you know, a very large share of

1842
01:34:02.880 --> 01:34:04.640
<v Speaker 4>the non college whites or evangelicals.

1843
01:34:05.439 --> 01:34:06.920
<v Speaker 6>The fact that tall Rico.

1844
01:34:06.960 --> 01:34:08.840
<v Speaker 4>You know, is a seminary and is not really going

1845
01:34:08.880 --> 01:34:10.720
<v Speaker 4>to help because he's a different kind of seminary.

1846
01:34:10.760 --> 01:34:12.359
<v Speaker 6>And I mean the the you know.

1847
01:34:12.520 --> 01:34:14.880
<v Speaker 4>Texas blue collar evangelicals do not want to hear that

1848
01:34:14.920 --> 01:34:18.479
<v Speaker 4>God is non binary, although it seems like as a

1849
01:34:18.520 --> 01:34:22.479
<v Speaker 4>you know, it seems like a perfectly defensible argument. I

1850
01:34:22.479 --> 01:34:24.680
<v Speaker 4>think the key is going to be, can you get

1851
01:34:24.680 --> 01:34:29.079
<v Speaker 4>a few points more out of the suburban college educated

1852
01:34:29.159 --> 01:34:34.399
<v Speaker 4>voters around Dallas, Houston, Austin, and San Antonio. Beto got

1853
01:34:34.399 --> 01:34:38.079
<v Speaker 4>like forty four or forty five percent of college whites

1854
01:34:38.920 --> 01:34:39.880
<v Speaker 4>in twenty eighteen.

1855
01:34:41.560 --> 01:34:44.159
<v Speaker 6>Can he can tell Rico push that up to forty

1856
01:34:44.199 --> 01:34:45.680
<v Speaker 6>seven forty eight against Paxton?

1857
01:34:45.760 --> 01:34:48.079
<v Speaker 4>You know? The other the other dynamic about Paxton is

1858
01:34:48.640 --> 01:34:51.119
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I forget which ones you probably might remember,

1859
01:34:51.119 --> 01:34:54.199
<v Speaker 4>but out of Slotkin, Rosen, Baldwin, and.

1860
01:34:55.920 --> 01:34:56.439
<v Speaker 6>Diego.

1861
01:34:56.520 --> 01:34:58.880
<v Speaker 4>The four Democrats who won in states were Biden lost,

1862
01:34:59.279 --> 01:35:02.520
<v Speaker 4>several of them did not get more votes than Harris right,

1863
01:35:02.880 --> 01:35:06.960
<v Speaker 4>it was just Republicans skipped the Senate race, and that

1864
01:35:08.159 --> 01:35:10.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's hard to see a lot of Texas

1865
01:35:10.880 --> 01:35:13.000
<v Speaker 4>Republicans voting for pall Rico.

1866
01:35:13.840 --> 01:35:14.880
<v Speaker 6>It's not hard to see a.

1867
01:35:14.880 --> 01:35:17.439
<v Speaker 4>Few of them voting for Abbot and skipping Paston or

1868
01:35:17.479 --> 01:35:19.039
<v Speaker 4>skipping Paxton coming down to Abbot.

1869
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<v Speaker 1>You can squint and see how this works. Where like

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01:35:21.840 --> 01:35:25.600
<v Speaker 1>some of them leave the Senate race blank, he gets up,

1871
01:35:25.640 --> 01:35:28.159
<v Speaker 1>he bumps up his numbers in the suburbs by a

1872
01:35:28.199 --> 01:35:30.640
<v Speaker 1>little few more after it than Ben Beto did. And

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<v Speaker 1>then he gets that Latino number maybe, if not all

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<v Speaker 1>the way at sixty in the Yeah, fifty eight, and

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<v Speaker 1>then that's enough.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, as people point out all the time,

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01:35:40.840 --> 01:35:43.159
<v Speaker 4>if they are a larger share of the vote than

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01:35:43.199 --> 01:35:45.960
<v Speaker 4>they weren't twenty eighteen Latinos, you can get a bigger

1880
01:35:46.039 --> 01:35:48.520
<v Speaker 4>net vote out of that community even with a smaller share.

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01:35:48.760 --> 01:35:51.399
<v Speaker 4>You don't have to match the share, but matching the

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01:35:51.439 --> 01:35:53.319
<v Speaker 4>share would help. I don't think that's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think Democrats can get back to sixty two,

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01:35:55.560 --> 01:35:58.680
<v Speaker 4>sixty three maybe among Texas. I was down in South

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01:35:58.720 --> 01:36:01.439
<v Speaker 4>Texas a few weeks ago, and you know, there's a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of economic discontent, there's a lot of ice discontent,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think, you know, my CNN column for later

1888
01:36:08.920 --> 01:36:12.560
<v Speaker 4>this week, tomorrow's news today, I think subtraction is going

1889
01:36:12.600 --> 01:36:14.399
<v Speaker 4>to be a bigger issue in this election than addition.

1890
01:36:14.720 --> 01:36:16.760
<v Speaker 4>I don't think you're going to add a lot of

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01:36:16.800 --> 01:36:18.399
<v Speaker 4>new Democratic votes.

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01:36:18.079 --> 01:36:20.119
<v Speaker 6>Either with new voters.

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01:36:19.720 --> 01:36:22.800
<v Speaker 4>Coming out or with Republicans who voted for Trump in

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01:36:22.840 --> 01:36:27.119
<v Speaker 4>twenty four switching to vote for Democrats. But you could

1895
01:36:27.159 --> 01:36:32.560
<v Speaker 4>subtract a lot of Republican votes. I mean Trump's according

1896
01:36:32.640 --> 01:36:35.439
<v Speaker 4>to one of the stats I'm I'm kind of unveiling

1897
01:36:35.479 --> 01:36:39.680
<v Speaker 4>in this column later this week, among Hispanics who voted

1898
01:36:39.720 --> 01:36:43.760
<v Speaker 4>for Trump, his approval writing now is sixty six percent. Right,

1899
01:36:44.079 --> 01:36:47.000
<v Speaker 4>that is not so good among all I remember all

1900
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<v Speaker 4>of the focus on the non college non wide voters

1901
01:36:50.880 --> 01:36:52.880
<v Speaker 4>and how this was kind of the you know, the

1902
01:36:53.199 --> 01:36:55.880
<v Speaker 4>the augurs of the of the realignment. His approval writing

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01:36:55.920 --> 01:36:58.439
<v Speaker 4>among non college non whites who voted for him is

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01:36:58.439 --> 01:37:01.279
<v Speaker 4>sixty eight percent. Among non college non whites who didn't

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01:37:01.319 --> 01:37:04.600
<v Speaker 4>vote in twenty four his approval rating is twenty percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I saw that in the New York Times cenopol

1907
01:37:07.279 --> 01:37:09.720
<v Speaker 1>It was those numbers were the worst.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, among non voters in the New York Times CNPOL

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01:37:12.520 --> 01:37:15.079
<v Speaker 4>among non voters in twenty four people who either skipped

1910
01:37:15.119 --> 01:37:17.359
<v Speaker 4>it or who have become eligible. Since he's a twenty

1911
01:37:17.399 --> 01:37:21.039
<v Speaker 4>one seventy one in job approval, so you know, I'm

1912
01:37:21.039 --> 01:37:24.479
<v Speaker 4>not sure you know this is twenty eighteen. Was another

1913
01:37:24.479 --> 01:37:27.119
<v Speaker 4>thing that was unique about twenty eighteen is you did

1914
01:37:27.239 --> 01:37:31.079
<v Speaker 4>have this enormous surge of new voters. Catalyst says thirteen

1915
01:37:31.119 --> 01:37:33.279
<v Speaker 4>percent of all the voters in twenty eighteen had not

1916
01:37:33.399 --> 01:37:37.640
<v Speaker 4>voted before. Census says turnout in twenty eighteen was ten

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01:37:37.760 --> 01:37:40.960
<v Speaker 4>points higher than in either of the Obama midterms. It

1918
01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:43.520
<v Speaker 4>was fifty percent as opposed to forty percent in the

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01:37:43.520 --> 01:37:46.439
<v Speaker 4>Obama interms. So there was this surge of new voters.

1920
01:37:46.760 --> 01:37:48.840
<v Speaker 4>That's where I think the Biden experience is going to

1921
01:37:48.920 --> 01:37:52.800
<v Speaker 4>really hurt. I mean, because you know, if you were

1922
01:37:53.199 --> 01:37:55.279
<v Speaker 4>you were a twenty one year old in twenty eighteen,

1923
01:37:55.520 --> 01:37:59.359
<v Speaker 4>you had Obama as your counterpoint to Trump, and it

1924
01:37:59.439 --> 01:38:02.000
<v Speaker 4>was like, yeah, we passed universal health care, or we

1925
01:38:02.000 --> 01:38:05.119
<v Speaker 4>did this or we did that, Now you got Biden,

1926
01:38:05.359 --> 01:38:09.000
<v Speaker 4>and you know whatever, rightly or wrongly, most Americans think

1927
01:38:09.039 --> 01:38:12.279
<v Speaker 4>that was not a successful presidency. So at a point

1928
01:38:12.359 --> 01:38:16.359
<v Speaker 4>where young people in particular are very negative on Trump,

1929
01:38:16.399 --> 01:38:18.520
<v Speaker 4>are also pretty negative on what they remember out of Biden,

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01:38:18.640 --> 01:38:21.960
<v Speaker 4>I don't see that big surge that Democrats had in

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01:38:22.000 --> 01:38:24.239
<v Speaker 4>twenty eighteen repeating itself.

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<v Speaker 6>What I do think is a.

1933
01:38:26.439 --> 01:38:30.760
<v Speaker 4>Very clear and present danger to Republicans is that the

1934
01:38:30.840 --> 01:38:34.439
<v Speaker 4>voters in their coalition who are disappointed with Trump, some

1935
01:38:34.479 --> 01:38:36.800
<v Speaker 4>of them are going to switch to voting for Democrats.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't think even many Democrats are expecting too

1937
01:38:39.359 --> 01:38:42.760
<v Speaker 4>many of them. Like you know, only six percent of

1938
01:38:42.840 --> 01:38:45.439
<v Speaker 4>voters in twenty two, according to Pew, voted for a

1939
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<v Speaker 4>House candidate from the party opposite that they voted for

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01:38:47.880 --> 01:38:51.720
<v Speaker 4>president in twenty It's not that big anymore. The real

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<v Speaker 4>swing voters are the people who cycle in and out

1942
01:38:53.840 --> 01:38:57.600
<v Speaker 4>of the electorate and they express their discontent by staying home.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that is a real risk for Publicans everywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>But Texas is a very good place where you could

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<v Speaker 4>have a lot. I could see a lot of those

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01:39:06.600 --> 01:39:11.079
<v Speaker 4>Latino first time Trump voters in South Texas, just like.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, sitting out now. All right, Well we'll

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<v Speaker 1>leave it there, all right, thank you for thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for joining and making us smarter. And everyone check out

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<v Speaker 1>runs column at CNN. And you know you've got to

1951
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<v Speaker 1>call him at Bloomberg as well, so you're all a.

1952
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<v Speaker 6>Little bit a little bit about brain Plattner at Bloomberg.

1953
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's great, take it. It'll be great. So everyone

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<v Speaker 1>take a look at that, and thanks again for coming by. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do it again before we get closer to November.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely good to be with John.

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<v Speaker 1>That's our show for today, Alex. Lovely as always to

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<v Speaker 1>do the pod with.

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<v Speaker 2>You in a row man, I know, but I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>say this shows a lot of work. Dan Feiffer needs

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<v Speaker 2>to get his butt back into the chair. Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like the longest Dand's been away from politics.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder for you somewhere, just like getting the shape

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<v Speaker 1>or hives or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan, Dan, send up two flares and you can still

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<v Speaker 2>hear us. We love you, Dan, We miss you, Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for letting me warm the mic.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you for warming the mic. You have been an.

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<v Speaker 2>Honor and a pleasure, my friend, to help us navigate

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<v Speaker 2>these choppy insane waters of our American democracy.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a good weekend. Everyone love it. We'll be back

1972
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<v Speaker 1>with an episode of Podsave America Sunday. He's talking to

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<v Speaker 1>David Sedaris.

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<v Speaker 2>How about that Nixon five?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, and then Tommy Love and I will be

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<v Speaker 1>back with a new show on Tuesday. Bye everyone, Nixon five.

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<v Speaker 1>Podsave America is a Crooked Media production. Our show is

1978
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<v Speaker 1>produced by Austin Fisher, Saul Ruben, McKenna Roberts, and Faris Safari,

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<v Speaker 1>with Ree Jerlin, Elijah Cone and Adrian Hill. Our team

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<v Speaker 1>includes Matt de Grote, Ben Hefcot, Jordan Kant, Charlotte Landis

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<v Speaker 1>Naomi Single. Our staff is probably unionized with the Writers

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