WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.399 --> 00:00:06.960 Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow. 2 00:00:06.719 --> 00:00:07.960 And I'm Catherine Hoileco. 3 00:00:08.279 --> 00:00:11.759 Every Thursday, we're bringing you a library find, a pick 4 00:00:11.800 --> 00:00:14.919 from our archives, and a parenting or pop culture tidbit 5 00:00:15.160 --> 00:00:19.960 or two. Let's start with Catherine's library find of the week. 6 00:00:20.640 --> 00:00:24.679 So this book came past me at work, and you know, 7 00:00:25.519 --> 00:00:30.359 the cover definitely caught my eye, and especially the subtitle. 8 00:00:30.679 --> 00:00:35.600 The title is the minimum Method, and the subtitle is 9 00:00:36.079 --> 00:00:39.479 the least you can do to be a stronger, healthier, 10 00:00:39.679 --> 00:00:40.479 happier you. 11 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:45.399 Yes, what we need? 12 00:00:46.079 --> 00:00:50.679 Okay, okay, I like this self help you know, weight 13 00:00:50.799 --> 00:00:55.399 loss blah blah blah, and this guy says less really 14 00:00:55.479 --> 00:01:01.079 can be more. Discover how to maximize your sleeping, eating, exercising, 15 00:01:01.320 --> 00:01:06.840 even thinking and breathing with minimum effort. See. 16 00:01:06.879 --> 00:01:10.719 I would think that would include not buying books to 17 00:01:10.760 --> 00:01:11.400 tell you what. 18 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:12.599 To tell you what to do. 19 00:01:13.159 --> 00:01:15.200 Yes, no, well I'm. 20 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:18.079 Just giving it away for free, right because you got 21 00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:19.120 to do the minimum? 22 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:22.799 Yeah, they certainly aren't giving away the book. 23 00:01:22.560 --> 00:01:24.560 And learn from it. Then you do the minimum? 24 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:27.319 Yes, so you have to start by buying the book. 25 00:01:27.079 --> 00:01:30.079 Apparently or checking out the library. 26 00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:30.599 Yeah. 27 00:01:30.879 --> 00:01:35.159 See, then you don't give this guy extra in his pocket. 28 00:01:35.959 --> 00:01:41.599 Yep, yep, yep. So, yeah, that's interesting, he says, you 29 00:01:41.640 --> 00:01:41.959 read it. 30 00:01:42.040 --> 00:01:45.560 What he says is the truth is most people don't 31 00:01:45.560 --> 00:01:50.079 actually need grueling, extreme workouts or aggressively limited diets to 32 00:01:50.159 --> 00:01:55.040 lose weight and feel proud to flaunt their bodies in bathings. 33 00:01:56.480 --> 00:01:57.719 Yeah, what they need is. 34 00:01:57.719 --> 00:02:01.719 Some ozempic and they'll be oh no, no, he doesn't 35 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:05.040 talk about those something. They need a plan that is 36 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:12.319 focused on efficiency. Okay, you'll learn a wealth of practical advice, 37 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:15.919 simple nutrition truths, minimal effort. 38 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:18.080 Recipes, and how to exercise smarter. 39 00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:18.680 Or not harder. 40 00:02:20.319 --> 00:02:23.960 All right, Joey Oh sure, sure, sure. 41 00:02:23.840 --> 00:02:27.520 Yeah, Okay, why has no one thought of that before? 42 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:31.560 Yeah, and this book came out two and a half 43 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:32.039 years ago. 44 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:33.479 Why haven't we all? 45 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:35.280 Yeah, if that's all we. 46 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:39.280 Need, Yeah, I should see how often it's been checked 47 00:02:39.280 --> 00:02:40.439 out from the library and. 48 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:46.159 Whether Yes, that would be very interesting. So yeah, I mean, 49 00:02:46.199 --> 00:02:50.400 I agree, it's very hard to do a lot for 50 00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:55.960 a long time. Yes, Yes, anything I've talked about in 51 00:02:56.039 --> 00:03:01.039 terms of habits and restrictions on myself on this podcast 52 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:04.439 have already gone by the wayside. And oh, by the way, 53 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:06.000 last week how I talked about how it was we 54 00:03:06.039 --> 00:03:08.080 strict with my daughter with the credit card. Yeah, I 55 00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:15.439 already gate in on that lasted a few days. Yeah, 56 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:19.639 and then I realized that we pay for her brother's haircuts, so. 57 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:23.719 But anything else. 58 00:03:25.159 --> 00:03:31.479 Yeah, his haircuts doesn't cost doesn't cost fifty dollars. But yeah, yeah, 59 00:03:31.520 --> 00:03:35.599 so yeah, I said, I mean this makes sense, but 60 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:41.800 somehow I have trouble, Yeah, believing it is quite this easy. 61 00:03:42.719 --> 00:03:43.879 Yes, we need. 62 00:03:43.719 --> 00:03:46.439 A suspicious saie to be. 63 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:47.719 Like, what, that's right? 64 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:48.080 Cool? 65 00:03:50.759 --> 00:03:52.479 We think the author is compromised. 66 00:03:53.840 --> 00:04:00.400 Easy for you to say Joey Thurman personal trainer. Uh 67 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:06.240 but yeah, I mean yeah, whether it was the author 68 00:04:06.439 --> 00:04:11.879 or his quote contributor, which usually means ghostwriter, or it 69 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:15.080 was the publisher whoever came up with the least you 70 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:19.040 can do for a subtitle was brilliant, brilliant. 71 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:22.839 That is very smart, Yes, because that's what we all want. 72 00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:23.240 Yep. 73 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:25.560 Easiest. Well, well, I bet there's. 74 00:04:25.399 --> 00:04:27.199 A lot of people who want to do the most 75 00:04:27.240 --> 00:04:31.639 and show off, but average civilians, how can I do 76 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:35.720 this easily? And the fact is, I don't know what 77 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:41.319 this guy's got up his sleeve, but he can't right exactly, 78 00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:43.959 It's not possible. 79 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:47.759 Well, it's just we'll have the same critique as we 80 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:51.639 have of parenting books. You know, yes, you can say 81 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:55.839 that this is the way it will work all you want. 82 00:04:57.399 --> 00:05:01.120 You are not living in my house with my children. 83 00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:08.480 So yep. It's just like Michael saying, we'll go through 84 00:05:08.519 --> 00:05:12.360 the jungle. We'll we'll get them. They're just simpletons living 85 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:13.000 in rags. 86 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:18.920 Yeah easy, Yep, he's a Dharma brown cake. 87 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:25.959 Well that's interesting though, but that, Yes, kudos to whoever 88 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:28.639 came up with the least you can do. A tip 89 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:31.959 of the hat to that person sitting in a cubicle 90 00:05:32.040 --> 00:05:34.639 writing writing subheads for a publisher. 91 00:05:35.839 --> 00:05:38.319 We see you, We salute you. 92 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:46.079 It's the least we can do, yes, exactly, And that's 93 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:48.720 probably what they said when they give that person a paycheck. 94 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:54.879 Well, oh you wanted a percentage. No, at least literally 95 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:55.720 the least we can do. 96 00:05:57.600 --> 00:06:01.680 Well, speaking of the least we can do, I do 97 00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:05.120 not have so much of a random recommendation this week 98 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:08.240 as I have maybe what will be a recurring feature 99 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:14.079 called explain it to Me. Okay Grandma, Here, old person 100 00:06:14.920 --> 00:06:20.439 wading through the uh hellscape of the Internet, trying to 101 00:06:20.519 --> 00:06:24.040 understand the way things work, and feeling sometimes a little 102 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:27.480 dumb because maybe I'm not getting it. So I've talked 103 00:06:27.519 --> 00:06:30.800 here about the fact that I can easily get ensnared 104 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:34.199 by Facebook reels. You know, I'm just gonna watch this 105 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:36.920 one clip from Georgie and Mandy's first marriage, and suddenly 106 00:06:36.959 --> 00:06:40.199 it's an hour later. And I've watched clip after clip 107 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:43.639 after clip of all sorts of different things, And lately 108 00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:48.279 I have been seeing a lot of these clips. I'm 109 00:06:48.279 --> 00:06:53.600 guessing they're from TikTok and then just recycled onto Facebook. Yeah, 110 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:58.600 and there's a ton of different ones, some of them 111 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:03.759 with different actors, some actor overlap, but different characters, different scenarios, 112 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:08.199 but they're all the same basic morality play, which is 113 00:07:09.600 --> 00:07:14.600 rich person who's full of themselves being horrible to somebody 114 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:20.000 they perceive as a poor person, just rude, loud, awful, awful, awful, 115 00:07:20.360 --> 00:07:23.600 awfullest possible, and then it turns out that that person 116 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:26.560 is not a poor person, but an even richer person. 117 00:07:27.279 --> 00:07:30.399 And then there's a comeuppance. Now the come upance they 118 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:34.040 usually the come upance is, in short, is not in 119 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:39.800 frequent rotation. You get a lot, a lot of the horrible, horrible, 120 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:43.319 horrible treatment, and I think they want you to click 121 00:07:43.439 --> 00:07:45.879 to get the come ups and I ain't gonna click, 122 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:50.360 right so I but you don't want to keep You 123 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:52.839 keep watching them thinking, Oh, is this the one where 124 00:07:52.839 --> 00:07:54.879 there's gonna be a come up? And no it's not. 125 00:07:55.079 --> 00:07:59.639 It's just more awfulness and just over the top stupid 126 00:07:59.639 --> 00:08:05.120 awful us, you know. And there's so many scenarios of it, 127 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:09.240 so many sort of looked like, wasn't that the actor 128 00:08:09.279 --> 00:08:12.319 who is the heiress in disguise and the other one 129 00:08:12.519 --> 00:08:17.560 is now the mean person in this one? Or it's 130 00:08:17.560 --> 00:08:18.279 got to be a thing. 131 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:19.319 Yeah, thing? 132 00:08:19.959 --> 00:08:20.879 Have you ever heard of this? 133 00:08:21.120 --> 00:08:24.160 I have not heard of this, and I have not afraid. 134 00:08:23.839 --> 00:08:27.920 To any of the links, you know, link in comments 135 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:30.439 or Lincoln here click And I don't want to click 136 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:33.360 because I don't trust you. But on the other hand, 137 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:37.840 I do want to know what is this? Is this 138 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:43.559 like does some production company just make these little you know, 139 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:46.679 and to only get like a tiny little segment at 140 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:49.440 a time, and then you see another segment with the 141 00:08:49.440 --> 00:08:51.279 same characters. Oh, is this gonna be the come up? 142 00:08:51.279 --> 00:08:54.879 But it's no, it's more awfulness. No, it's still more awfulness. 143 00:08:55.480 --> 00:08:58.720 Awfulness here awfulness there. This person's awful. That's person's awful. 144 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:04.240 You know. The lady runs out of gas and somebody says, well, 145 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:06.799 with my car, I have so much gas, but I'm 146 00:09:06.840 --> 00:09:10.039 not giving you any because you're a pathetic loser. And then, 147 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:12.039 of course later on it turns out that that's their 148 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:15.519 boss or something. There's a lot of bosses, there's a 149 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:18.360 lot of My father is the richest man in New 150 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:21.919 York City? How dare you talk to me that way? 151 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:25.279 And then it turns out that really that girl that 152 00:09:25.279 --> 00:09:27.840 that you're yelling at, her dad is the richest man 153 00:09:27.879 --> 00:09:32.000 in the world. I can't wait for the cum up ands, 154 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:33.519 but I can never see the cum up ands? 155 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:34.360 Where's the cup up ands? 156 00:09:34.360 --> 00:09:35.840 I don't want to pluck for the come up and no, 157 00:09:36.039 --> 00:09:36.519 don't click. 158 00:09:36.559 --> 00:09:39.000 Occasionally I see a come up and and it's delightful, 159 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:42.919 but it's so formulaic and it's so stupid. 160 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:44.120 Why does it? 161 00:09:44.679 --> 00:09:47.360 I can't help but watch it, which is why I 162 00:09:47.399 --> 00:09:49.240 am seeing more and more and more and more and 163 00:09:49.240 --> 00:09:55.679 more of them. If anybody knows what that is is 164 00:09:56.360 --> 00:09:59.480 on our website, what is this? Explain it to me. 165 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:05.240 Gradma is confused, and I would think it was just 166 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:08.399 like part of our zeitgeist now that we hate rich people, 167 00:10:08.919 --> 00:10:15.120 but the heroic people are even richer people, right, they 168 00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:23.080 just for a moment looked disadvantaged. Right, And the awful 169 00:10:23.159 --> 00:10:28.080 rich people are just stupid. I guess they can't google, 170 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:31.159 you know, take a picture of this person and ask 171 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:37.200 roc to identify them. No, they just assume if you 172 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:39.440 are a random young person in my car dealership, you 173 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:45.120 can't possibly afford this maserati. Well I just sold my 174 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:50.120 you know, just just inherited a million, ten million dollars. Yeah, 175 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:53.799 it's just it's just so silly and so stupid. And 176 00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:56.519 there's so many of them. It's like a mini little 177 00:10:56.559 --> 00:11:00.399 soap opera, just like a thirty second soap opera. 178 00:10:59.799 --> 00:11:01.799 Right, that's bizarre. 179 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:05.240 So I really want to know. You've never heard of this, 180 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:06.440 You've never. 181 00:11:06.360 --> 00:11:10.799 Know, I've only ever seen like it'll be like all text. 182 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:14.279 So you see the preview, you know, and you don't. 183 00:11:14.360 --> 00:11:16.080 Yeah, I've seen those two and it's just. 184 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:19.320 Text and it's like you wouldn't believe what this mother 185 00:11:19.440 --> 00:11:23.000 in law said, you know, or whatever, And I'm. 186 00:11:22.879 --> 00:11:27.240 Like, this is so fake, you know, I really want 187 00:11:27.279 --> 00:11:32.480 to know. So yeah, I'm not going to click on 188 00:11:32.519 --> 00:11:36.039 any of this stuff. But it's kind of irresistible to 189 00:11:36.080 --> 00:11:39.720 watch it. But that people are so hateful. I need 190 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:41.440 to see them get the come upance, which is what 191 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:44.759 they want to do. So there's maybe it's a psychic experiment. 192 00:11:44.799 --> 00:11:47.320 Maybe it's like another one of the others, the others, 193 00:11:47.759 --> 00:11:48.919 the others, that's what it is. 194 00:11:49.279 --> 00:11:50.720 It's explained, it's. 195 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:51.519 The others behind it. 196 00:11:51.960 --> 00:11:52.679 That makes sense. 197 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:58.000 Oh well, the Internet it is a treacherous place for 198 00:11:58.080 --> 00:11:58.720 an old person. 199 00:11:59.360 --> 00:12:03.080 You see things, not just an old person. Yeah. Yeah, 200 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:04.399 it's stretcherous for everybody. 201 00:12:04.840 --> 00:12:06.200 Young people too. 202 00:12:08.399 --> 00:12:11.000 Oh well, what do we have from the archives? 203 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:12.720 Is it's safe? Will it confuse me? 204 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:18.759 Well, we back in twenty twenty one, which is somehow 205 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:23.000 four years ago, we were talking about the parent portal. 206 00:12:23.879 --> 00:12:28.080 You know how at school you have the parent portal. 207 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:29.519 Loved the parent portal. 208 00:12:29.799 --> 00:12:35.320 I did not like the parent portal, especially because in 209 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:40.960 the last few years of my son's high school, I 210 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:45.200 could check the portal and I could see his grades 211 00:12:45.399 --> 00:12:50.279 and I could either be relieved or concerned. But yeah, 212 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:58.279 it meant nothing because they could change drastically at the 213 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:02.919 end of the semester, and so there was no point 214 00:13:04.679 --> 00:13:07.519 in looking at them. It's like, you know, if you 215 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:11.279 ever turn on a basketball game and it's the beginning 216 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:14.600 of the game and one team might be winning by 217 00:13:14.600 --> 00:13:18.879 twenty points, but it seriously doesn't matter, because the only 218 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:22.200 thing that matters is what happens when what the score 219 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:23.120 is when you know. 220 00:13:23.200 --> 00:13:24.240 Time runs out. 221 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:29.720 And that's that was what the very portpol was for me. 222 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:34.679 So yeah, it was some people just want the score 223 00:13:34.799 --> 00:13:36.279 at the end of the game, and some people want 224 00:13:36.320 --> 00:13:38.440 to watch every up and down of the game, every 225 00:13:38.720 --> 00:13:42.759 hold their breath through, every every basket thrown, every that 226 00:13:42.759 --> 00:13:43.240 that was me. 227 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:44.200 I want to know. 228 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:46.600 I want to know everything. Tell me everything. I did 229 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:49.279 not tell me every every time. I how many times 230 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:53.080 do my son, you know hiccup today? Tell me everything. 231 00:13:53.320 --> 00:13:55.039 Did you put a camera in the classroom and put 232 00:13:55.080 --> 00:13:56.240 that on? Because I would watch it? 233 00:13:56.879 --> 00:13:57.200 I was. 234 00:13:58.279 --> 00:14:01.679 But as I I mentioned the last time we talked 235 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:05.399 about this, parent portals came very late in my kids seling, 236 00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:13.519 so but I was all over them. And in college 237 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:16.679 my kids did not do anything with their own portals. 238 00:14:16.840 --> 00:14:21.240 I ran their portals, took care of them, and if 239 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:23.480 they needed to do anything, I would tell them. But 240 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:29.879 it was wonderful I would be the one where fresh refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh. 241 00:14:30.960 --> 00:14:31.559 Yeah. 242 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:36.519 In both of my kids, like there was there was 243 00:14:36.519 --> 00:14:41.000 a two tiered parent portal in college, there was here's 244 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:44.639 the parent portal that lets you pay the bills, oh yeah, 245 00:14:44.679 --> 00:14:48.320 and then there was another portal that foreseeing the grades 246 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:51.600 and so, and your child would have to give you 247 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:57.159 access to that. And you know, there's there's definitely parents 248 00:14:57.200 --> 00:15:00.399 who say, like, look, i'm paying for it, you will 249 00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:04.240 give me access. But with my daughter, I was like, 250 00:15:04.279 --> 00:15:08.840 I don't need it. She's she's totally like you just 251 00:15:08.840 --> 00:15:10.799 don't even have to think about it with her, like 252 00:15:12.279 --> 00:15:14.840 and then with my son, I was I was like, 253 00:15:14.919 --> 00:15:17.440 I'm not going to go through four more years of 254 00:15:17.480 --> 00:15:24.200 this like s service. Yeah, I will find out on 255 00:15:24.279 --> 00:15:26.159 a need to know basis. 256 00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:27.519 On that one. 257 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:36.039 Yeah, But I still wish that the parent portal concept 258 00:15:36.159 --> 00:15:39.120 could be extended into all parts of a young person's life. 259 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:39.639 That's right. 260 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:45.440 That's where it would the job job portal, where the 261 00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:47.519 boss would put up a nice little comment every day 262 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:48.840 how your kid did. 263 00:15:49.039 --> 00:15:50.039 Right, there's a problem. 264 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:54.399 You know, little ratings every day everywhere, every week, how 265 00:15:54.399 --> 00:16:02.600 they're doing. And you know, maybe their friends could have 266 00:16:02.639 --> 00:16:05.159 a portal where they would report in on you know, 267 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:09.720 how the social life was going, all the things that 268 00:16:09.720 --> 00:16:13.080 I would worry about. There could be a portal that 269 00:16:13.159 --> 00:16:15.879 what's in the car could be connected to a portal. 270 00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:17.279 How many miles did they drive? 271 00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:18.360 What was their average? 272 00:16:18.360 --> 00:16:24.279 Out every aspect of my young people's life like to 273 00:16:24.320 --> 00:16:30.720 have easy access to data, because it has always been 274 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:34.679 true throughout their lives. They don't talk about things much, 275 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:40.159 so I need to I need to have the information. 276 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:43.679 And now that they are not, there's not a paraprofessional 277 00:16:43.720 --> 00:16:45.919 who can tell me things. I am in the dark 278 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:49.000 and I do not enjoy the dark. I need to know. 279 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:51.080 I need to know things so I can make them right, 280 00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:54.759 you know, so that I when somebody asks me to 281 00:16:54.799 --> 00:16:58.440 tell me them about my kids, I am not like you. Right, 282 00:16:58.639 --> 00:17:03.559 You're not fumbling for answer, and I can tell you 283 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:09.440 this last week and they have not appeared anywhere. They're 284 00:17:09.440 --> 00:17:10.480 not supposed to be right. 285 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:17.880 But it's just it's the decline. 286 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:23.480 In data available to a parent after college. Yes, unsettling. 287 00:17:24.839 --> 00:17:28.920 And somebody could make some money if they could find 288 00:17:28.960 --> 00:17:31.599 a way to discreetly surveil your children. 289 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:36.559 Yeah, the problem is that the children have to consent 290 00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:37.400 to this, and. 291 00:17:39.240 --> 00:17:40.799 That's where you're going to have a problem. 292 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:44.039 I have a tracker on one kid, but if she 293 00:17:44.119 --> 00:17:46.839 leaves her phone home, that doesn't help me any The 294 00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:49.640 other kid doesn't seem to be working on his phone, 295 00:17:49.680 --> 00:17:53.400 and he won't let me access the phone to try 296 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:57.920 to make it work, even though I pay for the phone. 297 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:01.680 Well he bought, he bought the device. I pay for 298 00:18:01.720 --> 00:18:06.079 the thing, but he could pay it if you wanted to. 299 00:18:06.440 --> 00:18:13.559 So I don't know. I just would like reassuring information, right, 300 00:18:13.680 --> 00:18:15.960 And where am I going to get that. 301 00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:18.839 From them? 302 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:21.000 Yeah? 303 00:18:22.279 --> 00:18:25.319 No, I should just you know, just somebody. 304 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:27.359 The other day was we were talking about tracking, and 305 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:32.759 the discussion turned to the possibility of micro chipping our 306 00:18:32.799 --> 00:18:40.359 family members, including husbands, right, and just so you know, 307 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:42.119 just so you know where they are. 308 00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:44.960 Yeah, I mean we do it with our pets. 309 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:47.240 We do. You know, it's important. 310 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:51.119 I mean, like there was the time that I my husband. 311 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:54.079 I don't know if I talked about this on the podcast. 312 00:18:54.160 --> 00:18:54.759 I think I did. 313 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:58.680 He went to into New York City to see his sister, 314 00:18:59.480 --> 00:19:01.759 but he took a wrong turn and suddenly he went 315 00:19:01.759 --> 00:19:04.799 through a tunnel and then he was in Queen's and 316 00:19:04.960 --> 00:19:07.759 he didn't know where to go or what to do. 317 00:19:07.839 --> 00:19:10.680 But fortunately I had we had an AirPod in the 318 00:19:10.680 --> 00:19:12.880 car at the time that had been in the dogs collar, 319 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:16.359 so I was able to find an air AirTag. Yeah, 320 00:19:16.400 --> 00:19:18.480 we had an air tag in the car that had 321 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:20.319 we had taken out of the dog's collar, and I 322 00:19:20.359 --> 00:19:22.519 was able to use that to find him and look 323 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:25.200 at a map because he doesn't have GPS in the 324 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:28.079 car or in his possession at all, And I was 325 00:19:28.119 --> 00:19:32.759 able to talk him back to his sister's house. So 326 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:35.920 that was very useful. Wouldn't it be nice to have 327 00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:39.200 that all the time. He has a flip phone, so 328 00:19:39.279 --> 00:19:42.279 I can't put a tracker on it, but but you. 329 00:19:42.160 --> 00:19:45.319 Could take an air tag and scrape it onto the 330 00:19:45.400 --> 00:19:46.200 flip phone. 331 00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:51.160 Yes, I guess I could. The air tags are temperamental. 332 00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:51.920 Yeah. 333 00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:54.759 The thing is the air tag is meant to like 334 00:19:55.279 --> 00:19:58.559 be on your keys, so when you can't find your keys, 335 00:19:58.599 --> 00:20:01.000 you can get them to ding. It's not meant to 336 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:05.240 be driving around. It has a limited range. Yeah, and 337 00:20:05.359 --> 00:20:08.519 also apparently it just sometimes beeps for random reasons. And 338 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:11.200 fathers we had in the dog's collar, but then when 339 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:16.319 the dog was staying with family while we went away, 340 00:20:16.440 --> 00:20:19.519 it started just beeping, and probably because somebody else had 341 00:20:19.519 --> 00:20:22.759 an air tag on their dog and it was they 342 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:25.200 were like trying to play it, and it was the 343 00:20:25.319 --> 00:20:27.319 upset the dog. So that's why it came out of 344 00:20:27.319 --> 00:20:30.920 the collar and was loose in the car. But I 345 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:33.960 found them to be undependable for long range. Right, Sometimes 346 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:36.759 they work and sometimes they don't. They have to be 347 00:20:36.839 --> 00:20:39.160 near a tower, I think, or a near a They 348 00:20:39.160 --> 00:20:40.559 have to be near somebody. 349 00:20:40.279 --> 00:20:43.000 Else's phone, which means. 350 00:20:42.720 --> 00:20:46.279 That all of our phones are being used to locate 351 00:20:46.440 --> 00:20:52.720 track other people. Yes, which is you know, concerning. But 352 00:20:55.119 --> 00:20:58.480 I don't know how much you could a microchip. How 353 00:20:58.559 --> 00:20:59.599 much trouble could a microchip? 354 00:21:01.119 --> 00:21:03.880 Yeah, they say it's painless when they inject it into 355 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:04.640 a dog. 356 00:21:04.400 --> 00:21:06.119 A dog, right, right. 357 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:10.079 I just want to know what's going on. You just 358 00:21:10.079 --> 00:21:11.559 want to be constantly informed. 359 00:21:12.319 --> 00:21:14.119 Is that too much to ask? Really? 360 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:17.000 Not too much to ask. I do good things with 361 00:21:17.079 --> 00:21:22.839 the information, you know. I help navigate I uh, you know, 362 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:26.200 instead of nagging where are you why aren't you home? 363 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:31.480 I could go see oh she went to target. So yes, 364 00:21:31.599 --> 00:21:35.599 we need I need an immediate and constantly working portal 365 00:21:35.799 --> 00:21:38.559 that will just allow me to spy twenty four to seven. 366 00:21:39.519 --> 00:21:41.039 Seems like the logical mixed up. 367 00:21:41.160 --> 00:21:43.400 It's not a big doesn't sound like a big ask. 368 00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:46.440 Doesn't sound like a big ask. No that I could, 369 00:21:46.759 --> 00:21:49.119 you know, see what they're doing at work and possibly 370 00:21:49.200 --> 00:21:52.720 you know, text them little. Your boss seems upset, maybe 371 00:21:52.720 --> 00:21:54.799 you should do something different, or maybe you should do 372 00:21:54.839 --> 00:21:58.319 this or that, or you know that doesn't look very 373 00:21:58.319 --> 00:22:00.039 clean what you just cleaned there. Maybe you should go 374 00:22:00.039 --> 00:22:01.119 already again so you don't. 375 00:22:00.920 --> 00:22:01.519 Get in trouble. 376 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:05.400 I could, like you, like maybe if if they had 377 00:22:05.400 --> 00:22:07.200 a chip in their ear, gonna have a little speaker 378 00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:11.839 on it. Yeah, just the possibilities are endless. The next 379 00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:16.839 the next wave of portals are going to be extremely invasive. 380 00:22:16.480 --> 00:22:20.079 And and you're here for it. 381 00:22:20.119 --> 00:22:26.279 Made four moms who need to know. See if Michael 382 00:22:26.319 --> 00:22:29.799 had had access to that technology, he wouldn't look like 383 00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:34.839 such a bubbling idiot. Listen to our lost episodes to 384 00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:41.000 know what we're talking about. Anyway, they could listen to 385 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:45.519 our podcasts through the microchip. Also, we could just forcibly 386 00:22:45.559 --> 00:22:48.000 play them, and then they'd have to listen to the boy. 387 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:50.160 We'd have to take out all the parts where we're 388 00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:50.799 talking about them. 389 00:22:50.920 --> 00:22:53.960 Yeah, that would that would take a lot of time. 390 00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:57.319 What's that portal? 391 00:22:57.440 --> 00:22:57.720 Tight? 392 00:22:58.079 --> 00:23:00.279 Yeah? 393 00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:03.319 Thank you for listening. You can find all our episodes 394 00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:06.839 on Spreaker, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, or wherever you get 395 00:23:06.880 --> 00:23:10.599 your podcasts. 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