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<v Speaker 1>It's nice with dan Y I'm tell you Boston's new video.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, welcome back again, my thanks to the State

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<v Speaker 2>Auditor of the Commal Diana and Desaglio. Again, that's question one,

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<v Speaker 2>ballot question one, and I think it's one that virtually

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<v Speaker 2>everyone should want. I mean, why would you not want transparency?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's it's tough to come up with an

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<v Speaker 2>issue that you would think everyone would agree. And I

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<v Speaker 2>assume that the legislature, for whatever reason, they may have

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<v Speaker 2>their reasons, and we would certainly have We'll invite. We've

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<v Speaker 2>invited the Speaker or the Senate President or whoever would

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<v Speaker 2>be their design needs to come on and talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>More than happy to chat with them about this situation.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't normally I realized there are two sides.

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<v Speaker 2>There are many, many times more than two sides to

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<v Speaker 2>an issue, but boy, this one seems to me to

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<v Speaker 2>be pretty clear cut and dry question. But again, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're on the staff or you're on the Senate President's staff,

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<v Speaker 2>we've extended an invitation specifically on this topic, So feel

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<v Speaker 2>free to give us a call during the day and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll set you up and we'll have you on just

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<v Speaker 2>like we did with the state auditor to give you

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<v Speaker 2>an opportunity to tell us why you think the books

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<v Speaker 2>of the legislature should not be audited. We'll see, we'll see. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>there was this afternoon I came across a very interesting

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<v Speaker 2>poll that was done from University of Massachusetts and Amherst,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was talking about how happy people are here

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<v Speaker 2>in Massachusetts. And I'm going to give you the headline

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<v Speaker 2>on the poll and then we can get into some

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<v Speaker 2>of the internals if you will. But basically, this poll,

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<v Speaker 2>conducted by UMSS Amherst, finds the highest percentage of Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 2>residents in over four years believe that Massachusetts is on

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong track. Over four in ten of the respondents,

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<v Speaker 2>forty one percent say Massachusetts is heading in the wrong direction.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that's a pretty big number for a state that

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<v Speaker 2>likes to pride ourselves on all the opportunities that exist here, meaning,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the medical facilities that we have, the educational institutions,

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<v Speaker 2>the weather, the changes of the year. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>not Phoenix, Arizona, where most days during the year it's

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<v Speaker 2>over eighty degrees and maybe in the winter it rains

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<v Speaker 2>for a couple of months. Don't we get the snow

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<v Speaker 2>or the winter. We get the beautiful spring, We have

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<v Speaker 2>a fabulous summer of glorious falls. Occasionally we do have

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<v Speaker 2>a hurricane. Occasionally we do have a blizzard, but certainly

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't seem knock on wood, the size of the

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<v Speaker 2>dimensions of what have the type of storms that have

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<v Speaker 2>recently hit the southeast. It's a lot to like about Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>But this survey of seven hundred residents, conducted between October

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<v Speaker 2>third and the tenth, according to the press release from UMass,

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<v Speaker 2>says that that the problem that most people talked about

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<v Speaker 2>was the lack of housing. Now you get into some

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<v Speaker 2>of these numbers and it's it's interesting. According to the

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<v Speaker 2>public many shame share the blame for the complex housing problems,

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<v Speaker 2>according to a professor of political science at UMASSED Amherst

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<v Speaker 2>and co director of the poll. Now again, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to say that a lot of these folks live

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<v Speaker 2>in ivy ivy towers, but they do. I mean, they're

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<v Speaker 2>they're professors at universities and colleges, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how much interaction they have in the real world. But

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<v Speaker 2>now that that's that's for you to decide. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>this uh, professor of political science at UMass Amherst, co

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<v Speaker 2>director of the poll, says the highest percentage twenty two percent,

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<v Speaker 2>fault high interest rates. Additionally, landlords are blamed sixteen percent,

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<v Speaker 2>local governments fifteen percent, contractors sixteen percent, and the legislature

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen percent, But only six percent say the problem is

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<v Speaker 2>due to homeowners. I don't see how it could possibly,

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<v Speaker 2>in the mind of anyone, be due to a homeowner.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a home, you bought a home, you live

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<v Speaker 2>there for two years, ten years, fifty years, whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's your home. But somehow six percent of the people

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<v Speaker 2>polled decided that it was a problem with the homeowners,

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<v Speaker 2>and eight percent attribute the problem to Governor Mara Healy. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so that is the sort of the headline, the under

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<v Speaker 2>the subheadline, under the headline most popular amongst people who

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<v Speaker 2>were polled. Here's a great idea is to limit increases

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<v Speaker 2>on rents. Have you heard that one before? Sixty seven

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the people who were polled here, according to

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<v Speaker 2>one of the economists, favor the idea of limiting increases

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<v Speaker 2>on rents. Sixty seven percent of the seven hundred people

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<v Speaker 2>who were polled for some reason that figure doesn't sound

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<v Speaker 2>true to me unless they decided just to conduct the

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<v Speaker 2>poll amongst people who were renting. I mean, what percentage

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<v Speaker 2>of the population rents, and I would assume a good

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<v Speaker 2>percentage of those people are happy with their rent But

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<v Speaker 2>sixty seven percent of the people in Massachusetts support limiting

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<v Speaker 2>increases on rents. How has that worked out wherever rent

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<v Speaker 2>control has been tried? Okay, of course. Other popular ideas

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<v Speaker 2>include lowering the income threshold to qualify for a housing

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<v Speaker 2>Sixty one percent of the people want to lower the

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<v Speaker 2>threshold so that more people can get affordable whatever you

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<v Speaker 2>want to call affordable housing. Then there's another group sixty

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<v Speaker 2>two percent. This is good. Allows towns to tax real

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<v Speaker 2>estate transactions above a million dollars to generate funds for

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<v Speaker 2>affordable housing. This sounds to me like a poll that

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<v Speaker 2>is designed to basically say, we need housing that nobody

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<v Speaker 2>has to pay for except the taxpayers. I mean, there

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<v Speaker 2>aren't that many homes in Massachusetts that will sell less

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<v Speaker 2>than a million dollars. We hear about how expensive housing

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<v Speaker 2>is in Massachusetts, so let's make it more expensive. And then,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, another say we've got to provide tax breaks

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<v Speaker 2>to developers to build more low income housing. That's sixty

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<v Speaker 2>two percent. A majority also favors the States Plan requiring

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<v Speaker 2>towns served by the MPTA, that's the NBTA Communities Act

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<v Speaker 2>to change zoning to allow for now multi for new

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<v Speaker 2>multi family housing. I'm opposed to that because it seems

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<v Speaker 2>to me that zoning laws are the bedrock of any community.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you live in a community that doesn't want

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<v Speaker 2>casinos or liquor stores or bowling alleys or strip joints,

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<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't say strip joints. I should say emporium of

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<v Speaker 2>interpretive dance. Pardon me for saying strip joints. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>towns have a right to say what we want in

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<v Speaker 2>the town and what we don't, and that's that's the

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<v Speaker 2>basis of zoning laws. So they go on and on

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<v Speaker 2>and on, and then just to show you how I

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<v Speaker 2>think off this, this this poll is it says that

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<v Speaker 2>amongst let me see, they talk about who's popular, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>amongst the people they polled, and I'm assuming this is

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<v Speaker 2>representative of Massachusetts, fifty eight percent approve the work done

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<v Speaker 2>by Governor Healey fifty Ed Markey fifty three percent, Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 2>Warren Kamala Harris fifty five percent. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 2>the state legislature is a gets a vote of approval

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<v Speaker 2>from the people that these guys pulled forty six percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I can believe that you know Ed Markey, he's

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<v Speaker 2>a US senator as a positive rating, and I have

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<v Speaker 2>Governor Healey. Okay, but the state legislature, come on, come on, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta be a little realistic here. So my question

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<v Speaker 2>is this, to my audience, are we on the right

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<v Speaker 2>track or the wrong wrong track in Massachusetts? Now, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess you could be on either side of this equation

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<v Speaker 2>and you could say, yeah, you know, taxing more on

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<v Speaker 2>wealthy people. We just passed the millionaire's tax. I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to solve the housing in the education crisis, right

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<v Speaker 2>not that's okay, what's that going to do? Well? People

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<v Speaker 2>who make a lot of money, they tend to be

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<v Speaker 2>fairly smart, okay, maybe smarter than the average bear. At

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<v Speaker 2>some point they're gonna say I'm out of here, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>out of here. Okay, then you have we have great

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<v Speaker 2>companies in Massachusetts. But if you don't have enough companies

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<v Speaker 2>in Massachusetts to absorb all the bright kids who are

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<v Speaker 2>young men and women who are coming out of colleges

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<v Speaker 2>and universities. They're gonna go other places. It's as simple

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<v Speaker 2>as that we have an outflow of people leaving here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we have people leaving here as much

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<v Speaker 2>because of the housing being unaffordable. The fact of the

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<v Speaker 2>matter is we're a small state in a small region

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<v Speaker 2>dominated by Boston. Boston is the center of the hub,

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<v Speaker 2>certainly in the center of New England. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a huge city. It's not Phoenix, Arizona, where

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<v Speaker 2>you can put up, you know, ten of thousands of

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<v Speaker 2>condominiums and and sell tens. It's different here. It's different here.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna ask a

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<v Speaker 2>very simple question. Now, some of you might say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>guess what. You know, we're on the wrong track because

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<v Speaker 2>the state hasn't given me enough free stuff. They haven't

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<v Speaker 2>given me a house. They haven't they haven't given me

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<v Speaker 2>free rent control. They haven't given me a car, they

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<v Speaker 2>haven't given me whatever. Okay, they haven't given me a trip. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>they've given me three or four EBT cards. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I got a plenty of BBT cards. EBT cards for everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what that's maybe maybe that would make people happy.

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<v Speaker 2>This is nuts, This is nuts. The bottom line in

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<v Speaker 2>this poll is forty one percent of the people in

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<v Speaker 2>Massachusetts think we're on the wrong track. I'm in that

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<v Speaker 2>forty one percent. Okay, I'd love to know if you

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<v Speaker 2>think we're on the right track. If you think things

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<v Speaker 2>are just hunky dory in Massachusetts and everything's going great

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<v Speaker 2>in Massachusetts, fine, absolutely, more bike lanes. Let's get let's

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<v Speaker 2>have bike lanes everywhere. Let's get the autumleveals off the road.

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<v Speaker 2>That's you know, that's those are the trends that are

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<v Speaker 2>pushing people out of here in Massachusetts. And guess what.

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<v Speaker 2>The people who are pushing that, they have political cloud,

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<v Speaker 2>they have influence with the politicians, many of whom are politicians,

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<v Speaker 2>don't have much of a backbone. They're going to say, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>how many more bike lanes do you want? Okay, how

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<v Speaker 2>many more people? There's a bike lane controversiy going up

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<v Speaker 2>in Revere now I'm just beginning to learn about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to hear from anyone up in Revere. So

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom line is my question is this the bottom

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<v Speaker 2>The question is, is Massachusetts on the right track of

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong track. Here's the real killer. Okay, this is

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<v Speaker 2>the first time that forty more than forty percent of

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<v Speaker 2>Massachusetts residents, according to this poll, say the may state

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<v Speaker 2>is heading in the wrong direction. That is a five

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<v Speaker 2>point increase in negative sentiment according to the poll. Quoting

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<v Speaker 2>from the poll here from the press release since a

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<v Speaker 2>poll in May June, July, August, September, October, so a

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<v Speaker 2>poll five months ago, it's it's gone up five points

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<v Speaker 2>and thirteen points higher from a pole from August of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty, when Massachusetts will lock down with the COVID virus.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this pole is probably very accurate on its

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<v Speaker 2>bottom line, but I don't think it's identified what people

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<v Speaker 2>are really upset about. Six one, seven, two, five, four

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about living in the Bay Stay and guess

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<v Speaker 2>what if you live somewhere else, I'd love to know

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<v Speaker 2>from you. Do you think that we're on the right

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<v Speaker 2>track where you live? Because the right track does splash

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<v Speaker 2>back not only on what's going on in your state,

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<v Speaker 2>but also on what's going on in your region and

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on in your country. We'll open up these

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<v Speaker 2>phone lines right now. I'll love to have you join

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<v Speaker 2>us six one, seven, two, five, four to ten thirty

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<v Speaker 2>back on night Side.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>knight set you on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's get to the phone call. See what people

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<v Speaker 2>to hear from you. Let me go to Jack in Newton. Jack,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome back. How are you tonight?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? How you doing? Jack Porter? Well, I've been involved

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<v Speaker 3>in real estate for forty five years and forty some

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<v Speaker 3>years ago on the nineteen unit apartment building in Brighton.

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<v Speaker 3>It only costs one hundred and eighty thousand dollars, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>telling my students they just don't believe it. But that's

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<v Speaker 3>because the rents were four hundred dollars for a four

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<v Speaker 3>bedroom and two hundred dollars you know for a two bedroom.

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<v Speaker 2>So Jack, Jack, this was how how many years ago?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, how many years?

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<v Speaker 3>Forty years ago? How about a building this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so this would have been in the mid nineteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Eighties, nineteen eighty two. How about a nineteen yunit building

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<v Speaker 3>for one hundred and eighty thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a good investments.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a very poor city back then, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was very difficult for us to make improvements. So ven

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<v Speaker 3>control was not you know, the best thing. And in

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<v Speaker 3>some ways I was happy, you know, it went out,

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<v Speaker 2>Some ways, what ways were you happy it didn't go up? Jack?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, to the owner of an apartment building, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I'm assuming I know you pretty well that

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<v Speaker 2>that you weren't going to be gouging people, and you

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<v Speaker 2>would you would give people a good opportunity, but you

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<v Speaker 2>had to keep the building in good shape. You had

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<v Speaker 3>Back then then was they converted them to condos and

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<v Speaker 3>brandon around Boston College because of rent control. And so

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<v Speaker 3>that's how I fell into a group of investors, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>for three hundred and four hundred thousand, and then they

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<v Speaker 3>in turn sold it out and they made you know,

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<v Speaker 3>four or fives million, So you know, that's what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>But you have to have now, you have to have

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<v Speaker 3>some controls of only three or five percent increases in

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<v Speaker 3>rent because it's just too much. I mean, you've got to.

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<v Speaker 2>Say hold on. If if you were you were not

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<v Speaker 2>in favor of rent control when you when you owned

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, No, today I am to some degree because rents

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<v Speaker 2>But how much how much rental property do you own today? Jack?

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<v Speaker 3>I just have my condo today.

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<v Speaker 2>But would you live there or do you or do

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<v Speaker 2>you rent it out?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 3>I live there. I live in a condo.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So you don't have any rental properties today. Correct?

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<v Speaker 3>I wish I did, but it was you know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's very good.

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<v Speaker 2>But what you think what to quote JD Vance, think

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<v Speaker 2>of what you're saying. You're telling me that when you

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<v Speaker 2>owned what'd you say, nineteen units in a in a building?

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<v Speaker 2>Was that you said nineteen units?

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<v Speaker 3>I did up building in Gordon Street. I'm parking, so

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<v Speaker 3>you this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a nice street, I know, Gordon Street. So you

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<v Speaker 2>owned nineteen units and you were posed to rent control

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<v Speaker 2>when you own nineteen units. Now you don't own any

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<v Speaker 2>rental units. You're okay with rent.

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<v Speaker 3>Control because it's just it's way too high. That's why

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<v Speaker 3>people are leaving the city. They're leaving in Massachusetts because

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<v Speaker 3>the rents are so high. You're pushing people out. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not just students or it's you know, it's a seniors like,

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<v Speaker 3>does it have.

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<v Speaker 2>Does your position? Let me ask you this, Jack, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>does your position on rent control today versus what it

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<v Speaker 2>was when you own rental property back in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>Does it have anything to do with your status as

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<v Speaker 2>a as a as a building owner back then versus

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<v Speaker 2>someone now who lives at a condominium has no rental property.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I would say this because I know that people

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<v Speaker 3>I just can't afford a thirty or forty or fifty

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<v Speaker 3>percent increase in their rent a five percent increase possibly,

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<v Speaker 3>but not thirty or forty or fifty percent of start out.

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<v Speaker 2>But Jack, you know, I'm a friend of yours, and

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<v Speaker 2>it just sounds to me like you're doing some virtue

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<v Speaker 2>signaling here.

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<v Speaker 3>Forty years ago, it only costs one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 3>dollars per square fit to build. Now it's three hundred

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<v Speaker 3>dollars per square foot. And the reason why is that

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<v Speaker 3>land is so much scarcter, and land has doubled in price,

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<v Speaker 3>and the cost of the steel and metal, and and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, Jack, you and I know that if

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<v Speaker 2>you wanted to rent, let us say, a two bedroom

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<v Speaker 2>apartment in Manhattan really expensive.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, proctually about. You know, it could be the same

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<v Speaker 3>as the you know as the South End or seaport today.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, really expensive South End Seaport, really expensive. What would

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<v Speaker 2>a two bedroom apartment cost you? And say, let's say Laramie, Wyoming,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a fraction under there.

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<v Speaker 3>But my own building right here in Newtonville, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>on well of it, it's twenty two bedroom under.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack. You're you're you're a great human You're you're a

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<v Speaker 2>great human being, and your your kindness towards people today

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<v Speaker 2>who are having a difficult time paying rent is admirable.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well we have my hats.

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<v Speaker 2>My hat's off to you, Jack. I wish you owned

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<v Speaker 2>twenty units today and you could keep the prices down.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know you would appreciate your call. Jack,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you much.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be a grateful anthropist.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I know that. I can imagine that if you

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<v Speaker 2>ever hit the ten million dollar lottery. How much money

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<v Speaker 2>do you think of you if tomorrow you hit a

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<v Speaker 2>ten million dollar lottery ticket? Just go ahead, how much

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<v Speaker 2>money do you think you would give away? I'll bet

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<v Speaker 2>you that you would give nine million dollars away.

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<v Speaker 3>I give a lot of it away.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll bet you well, how much I would bet

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<v Speaker 2>you you give ninety percent of it away?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm almost eighty years old, so I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>give a lot of it away. But i'd like to,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, just having else to live on.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, if you could keep you know you could,

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<v Speaker 2>you could live on a million dollars. I know you,

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<v Speaker 2>Jack that if you want ten million, or if you

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<v Speaker 2>want a hundred million dollars, you'd give ninety five million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars of it away because you're a good human being.

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<v Speaker 3>Well you're almost That building is worth that I a

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<v Speaker 3>twenty years ago I.

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<v Speaker 2>Never should have sold it. So how much again, Jack,

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<v Speaker 2>just help me out here. If you want a hundred million,

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<v Speaker 2>how much would you give away? Just go ahead in

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<v Speaker 2>virtual signal? Come on, how much would you give away?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, to charity and everything else? About eighty million out

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<v Speaker 3>of one hundred million?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh, you give away more than that. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>need that twenty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>Come on, Jack, I know you.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd be more generous than that. Jack, Come on, don't

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<v Speaker 2>be shy, don't be shy. I know you well enough

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<v Speaker 2>to know your generosity. Thank you, Jack, I appreciate your call.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a good human being. Thank you. Back right, We're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be back right after this. No, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to take a news break and then we'll be

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<v Speaker 2>back right after this. Jack is someone who I know

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<v Speaker 2>very well, and he would give it all away. I

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<v Speaker 2>can I guarantee it. We'll be back on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's

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<v Speaker 2>So we're talking about a University of Massachusetts at Amherst

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<v Speaker 2>poll which concludes, amongst I guess seven hundred responding statewide,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a good sample, that forty percent of Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 2>residents feel we're on the wrong wrong track as a state. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's see what others think. Get kind of a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit off with Jack, who's a wonderful human being and

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<v Speaker 2>a generous guy who when rent control was in effect

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<v Speaker 2>he liked he was opposed to it. Now that he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't own property, he's in favor of it. Let's go

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<v Speaker 2>to Bill and Danvers. Hey Bill, how are you tonight?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Good?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Sorry, I haven't called him. I'm busy, but there's

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<v Speaker 5>been a few topics, but I haven't listened enough over

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<v Speaker 5>the last few weeks to call. But I have time.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I mean I'm surprised there's only forty one percent.

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<v Speaker 5>State's on the wrong track in this state, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh well, I got to remember there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people who have who have come here and now are

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<v Speaker 2>being given EBT cards and free housing and yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>uh you know, hotel rooms. Yeah, we're generous, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>very generous state here. Bill. I don't know if if

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<v Speaker 2>you've been able to take advantage of any of the

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<v Speaker 2>programs that are available, or you somebody who's actually working

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, the guys that are working, we're being fleece

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<v Speaker 5>for that.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, it's it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Startling to me is there's individuals and you'll talk to

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<v Speaker 5>them and I've talked to them people I know, and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, they're the same guys that are going to

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<v Speaker 5>probably go down enthusiastically and vote for Harris and they'll say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I'm proud of the state because the programs

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<v Speaker 5>and we give this, and we there, and basically they're

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<v Speaker 5>happy that we're subsidized and stuff. And the more you

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<v Speaker 5>subsidize stuff, the more they they keep taking. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>you just get more of when you subsidize something, and.

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<v Speaker 2>What you're trying to say to me what you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to say to me. And I want to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>I understand this that if the state of massach or

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<v Speaker 2>to come out of Massachusetts gives free stuff away, that

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<v Speaker 2>will be a magnet for people to be attracted to

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<v Speaker 2>come here.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, you kidding. Hey, hey, listen, and you know I

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<v Speaker 5>can't fault guys. I mean, listen, if I was in

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<v Speaker 5>the same boat, right, and maybe I didn't have a

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<v Speaker 5>good wherever I came from, right, and they opened up

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<v Speaker 5>the doors and they said, hey, come on in right

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<v Speaker 5>and many of you come in right now. Texas I

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<v Speaker 5>had to write the work state. You know, they don't

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<v Speaker 5>have a lot of maybe a lot of programs. The

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<v Speaker 5>governor there, he's going to give me a free bus

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<v Speaker 5>ride right where you're gonna go the top three places.

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<v Speaker 5>And they all know this because they have relatives and

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<v Speaker 5>the network and the Coyotes are telling them and the Cattels. Right,

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<v Speaker 5>it's California, because you've got news running around. He's going

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<v Speaker 5>to guarantee your healthcare, okay, right, but Massachusetts, you're guaranteed

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<v Speaker 5>housing in healthcare and you're gonna get all the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Now, wait a second, I want you to understate the

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<v Speaker 2>generosity of the Cambo. You get free hotel room, you

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<v Speaker 2>get three meals a day, you get t card, and

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<v Speaker 2>you get free taxi rides. What's wrong with that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? No?

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<v Speaker 5>And uh and and they're getting cars too, Dan, Well,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if you know that cars. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>because I hope they.

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<v Speaker 2>Please don't tell me that they use cars.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, yeah, I mean they used I think they pick

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<v Speaker 5>them up and they get them when they impound them

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<v Speaker 5>for whatever activities. But they do have cars because they're

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<v Speaker 5>practicing in some of the pocket whts up and down

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<v Speaker 5>Route one. You get a guy from Sagas on the phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Massachusetts residents eligible to get those free cars or no?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think so, Dan, not you know.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, just in this poll here, in this

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<v Speaker 2>poll they say ours find our results, excuse me, find

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<v Speaker 2>that a majority of residents fifty seven percent, continues to

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<v Speaker 2>support this law and remain committed to ensuring that immigrant

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<v Speaker 2>newcomers are given the necessary resources to protect the well

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<v Speaker 2>being and health of their families. So fifty seven percent

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<v Speaker 2>of people here in Massachusetts support the right to shelter

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<v Speaker 2>law and properly hope that more people will be attracted

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<v Speaker 2>to the commonwealth.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you know, I gotta tell you, and I'll be

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<v Speaker 5>one of them at some point. I've already been making moves.

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<v Speaker 5>But actually, I you know, in a way, if people

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<v Speaker 5>want that here, okay, and there's probably at this point

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<v Speaker 5>its slim majority of us that don't, So we just

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<v Speaker 5>vote with our feet. So the guys that are left here,

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<v Speaker 5>they're going to pay the bill for it, or to

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<v Speaker 5>the point where so many people leave, the producers or

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<v Speaker 5>the guys that had small businesses just threw up their

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<v Speaker 5>hands and this place. I mean, I don't know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>it's gonna get to a point where it's just unsustainable.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's fine what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you whoa, whoa. Don't you feel an obligation to

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<v Speaker 2>stay here and support other people. You're not as good

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<v Speaker 2>as human You're not nearly as good a human being

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<v Speaker 2>as Jack from Newton. By the way, I hate to

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<v Speaker 2>tell that to you.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you know, Dan, you know, if you give a

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<v Speaker 5>guy a fish, you'll ead today. But if he teaches

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<v Speaker 5>the fish, I'll lead it forever.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, no look you, I'm having a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of fun with you. I mean, it's amazing to me

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<v Speaker 2>that fifty this is again this Paul is saying fifty

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the people in Massachusetts, a majority of residents,

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<v Speaker 2>continue to support the right to shelter law. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't understand, and and and yet forty

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<v Speaker 2>one percent of the state says that we're in the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong going in the wrong direction. So I guess forty

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<v Speaker 2>one percent of the state say, well, you're in the

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<v Speaker 2>forty one percent of the state that say we're going

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<v Speaker 2>in the wrong direction, and seven percent say, let's get

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<v Speaker 2>more people here who we can support this. This is

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<v Speaker 2>actually this poll is to me, it's just amazingly inconsistent.

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<v Speaker 5>Go ahead, no, no, I think I kind of because

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<v Speaker 5>if you look at when you at the end of

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<v Speaker 5>the day, when you look at the election results in

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<v Speaker 5>a few weeks, right, yeah, you'll have about thirty six

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<v Speaker 5>or thirty eight, So it's almost aid that forty and

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<v Speaker 5>then the rest is whatever. So I think it's actually

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<v Speaker 5>pretty cool as hot as it is, and it's hard

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<v Speaker 5>for me to get my head around it, but I've

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<v Speaker 5>managed to do it over time because I deal with

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<v Speaker 5>the public.

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<v Speaker 2>You know all right, all right, Bill, as always, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you very much, but you got to work on becoming

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<v Speaker 2>a better person like Jack from Newton. That's all I

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<v Speaker 2>can say to you.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I'll try, I'll add it to my prayers. I'll

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<v Speaker 5>ask for forgiveness and guid absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much, Thanks, thanks, thanks, good bye. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way, man, talk to you later. By James Is

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<v Speaker 2>in Saga. Say James, you're next time NIGHTSAG Go right ahead, Hey.

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<v Speaker 6>How are you doing tonight? First time call her, first

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<v Speaker 6>time listening.

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<v Speaker 2>First time call it in the first time this year. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the daily double. Thanks very much. Welcome.

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<v Speaker 6>Never lived in mass live over the border in New

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<v Speaker 6>Hampshire and originally from California. Then a law enforcement a

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<v Speaker 6>long time, but I'm out of it now for a

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<v Speaker 6>major healthcare system and Mass.

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<v Speaker 5>But anyways, I want to reach.

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<v Speaker 6>Out and talk to you about the about this poll.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that poll, the numbers, that's even the numbers

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<v Speaker 6>are really really down. I think it's bigger than five percent.

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<v Speaker 6>I think there's such a a you know, bigger number

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<v Speaker 6>than that.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think the poll a lot of the.

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<v Speaker 6>Poles are not showing those accurate numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, hold let me make let me make sure, James,

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<v Speaker 2>which number. The number, the primary number that I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>about is the poll finds that forty one percent, forty

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<v Speaker 2>one percent of residents in Massachusetts think we're on the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong track. I'm in that group, by the way, the

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<v Speaker 2>forty one percent, that is a five percent increase from

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<v Speaker 2>May of this year, so it'd gone it would have

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<v Speaker 2>from thirty six to forty one percent of the last

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<v Speaker 2>five months.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's higher than that. I think it's actually higher

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<v Speaker 5>than that. I do.

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<v Speaker 6>And and you know, working for a major healthcare system

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<v Speaker 6>in mass Chusetts, working in the emergency room, the things

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<v Speaker 6>I see would blow your mind.

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<v Speaker 5>And I will tell you this, I will tell you this.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm the I'm the opposite of most of these level

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<v Speaker 4>headed guys. I want Trump to come back into office.

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<v Speaker 4>I want him to instruct the Department of Justice to

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<v Speaker 4>go after anybody and everybody that aids and events, these

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<v Speaker 4>people that came across illegally. I e.

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<v Speaker 6>The Governor of California Newscom, every state governor.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't do we don't do names here, Governor Newsom,

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<v Speaker 2>that's his name, Go ahead, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>And then and then all of those governors that support that,

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<v Speaker 6>and any of the companies that are hiring them, they

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<v Speaker 6>need to be held accountable.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm well, James, James, James, I'll agree with you that

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<v Speaker 2>if some company is hiring people under the table and

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<v Speaker 2>securing an unfair advantage by actually taking advantage of people

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<v Speaker 2>who have come here, I agree with you that those

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<v Speaker 2>companies should be penalized. But if the people of California

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<v Speaker 2>are so dumb that they're going to elect Gavin Newsom

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<v Speaker 2>as the governor after what he did to the city

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<v Speaker 2>of San Francisco, good luck to them.

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<v Speaker 6>I understand that. But let me ask you a question.

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<v Speaker 4>Can't you can't put him?

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<v Speaker 2>You can't put Newsom in jail because he you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's got elected governor. You can't do that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, sure you can't. He's aiding in the betting future

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<v Speaker 6>that's under federal law.

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<v Speaker 2>Well well, well, first of all, in that case, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess you're gonna have to put Joe Biden in jail.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, come on, absolutely, I'm not forgot.

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<v Speaker 2>That's you know, it's up to the people too.

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<v Speaker 6>But they pulled van hand grenade first. They pulled it

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<v Speaker 6>first when they went after him, just for announcing he

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<v Speaker 6>was going after the presidency. They pulled that anger Nate person.

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<v Speaker 6>You've got all these Democratic lawmakers everybody else that are

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<v Speaker 6>the prosecutors that are prosecuting him for all these bull

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<v Speaker 6>baloney charges based.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think the James James, I'm being honest

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<v Speaker 2>with you, Okay, I'm being honest with you. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that we get we get into a uh a real

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<v Speaker 2>downward spiral. It's gonna the country is going to start

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<v Speaker 2>to look like some dictatorship in Central or South America.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we should not be going after the Republicans,

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<v Speaker 2>should not be going after the Democrats. They shouldn't the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats shouldn't be going after Republicans. Yeah, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think I think sometimes you know, if you

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<v Speaker 2>know some sometimes you can Look. I have no idea

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<v Speaker 2>who's going to be elected president. I just hope that

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<v Speaker 2>whoever's elected president, whether it's the vice president or former

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump, I hope that we as a society and

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<v Speaker 2>as a country, will get behind them and say, look,

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<v Speaker 2>the election's over, let's try to work together. Let's try

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<v Speaker 2>it for a while. We've been so divided for so long.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh And and I don't believe in law there. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not a fav I'm not a fan of law here, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's there's a lot of problems that we have

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<v Speaker 2>talked about. You you listen to the show more often,

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to agree with me more than you realize.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just don't want to know.

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<v Speaker 6>I bet, I bet I do agree with you. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>assuming I do agree with you. I think I'm just

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<v Speaker 6>a little farther right than you are, man. And I

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<v Speaker 6>think that, and I think that, and I think that

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<v Speaker 6>all the things that I've seen working in an emergency

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<v Speaker 6>room in Boston, major emergency room in Boston last five years,

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<v Speaker 6>it would blow your mind away. The things that I've seen.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what, James, some night, some night, if

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<v Speaker 2>if you want some night, maybe we'll touch upon that topic.

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<v Speaker 2>I have friends of mine who are doctors in New

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<v Speaker 2>York cardiac. Matter of fact, one guy who's a cardiac

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<v Speaker 2>surgeon told me that there are people who fly into

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<v Speaker 2>the country from other countries and they collapse on the

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<v Speaker 2>on the walkway from the airplane into into the terminal.

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<v Speaker 2>They know that they're in need of open heart surgery.

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<v Speaker 2>They're in their eighties.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, and they got here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I mean, you know, as much as you'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to say to the world, we would love everyone

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<v Speaker 2>to come here, unfortunately we can't. And we need to borders,

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<v Speaker 2>and borders that are that are patrolled and borders that

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<v Speaker 2>are recognized. So this is the stuff we talk about

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<v Speaker 2>all the time, and I think you'll be very comfortable with.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I don't want to do is see us

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<v Speaker 2>devolve into a tit for tat dictatorship, because that that

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<v Speaker 2>will that would take us down a path that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think.

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<v Speaker 6>We really Well, here, here's here's here's the part of

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<v Speaker 6>the problem. I just got one real quick question where

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<v Speaker 6>but state of Ohio overwhelmingly did not support when they

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<v Speaker 6>put it on the ballot for gay marriage. But Ohio

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<v Speaker 6>is forced to accept gay marriage by the United States

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<v Speaker 6>faberal government.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, because the US well you draw that line, because

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<v Speaker 2>the United States Supreme Court concluded that there was a

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<v Speaker 2>constitutional right for individuals to marry whomever they wanted.

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<v Speaker 6>And so now now under that same prentiss, I can

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<v Speaker 6>carry my firearm which New Hampshire has cost carry, can

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<v Speaker 6>carry that right over in the mass.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's an interesting question because you're talking there about

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<v Speaker 2>the Privileges and Immunities Clause in the US Constitution. I

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<v Speaker 2>happen to be a lawyer. I happen to agree with

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<v Speaker 2>you on that. I happen to agree with you, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that eventually, eventually, maybe that issue will go

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<v Speaker 2>be front of this be front of the US Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 2>There have been some recent decisions by this court which

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<v Speaker 2>I've been friendly to gun owners. Look, James, we got

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more to talk about. I hope you listen

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<v Speaker 2>more often, and I hope you join me every night

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<v Speaker 2>of the week, and your calls are always welcome, and

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<v Speaker 2>I every day you two James, and welcome to night's side.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you much, thank you. We'll take a break. We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna we very well may continue this into the next hour. Eric,

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<v Speaker 2>Bill and sal you guys are up next, So get ready.

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<v Speaker 2>Six one seven four ten thirty is the only line

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<v Speaker 2>that's open right now. Six one seven four ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get into this because frankly, Massachusetts is

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<v Speaker 2>not in good shape, as this poll indicates. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that the poll identifies different issues the wrong reasons, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's still a poll and we're talking about it. I

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<v Speaker 2>hope you'll join us coming back on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm going to move the callers a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more quickly. I think we've established the issue. I'm Bill

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<v Speaker 2>and Lowell Bill next on Nightside? Go ahead?

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<v Speaker 5>Does that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>I hope if it's Bill and Lowell with's you? Bill?

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<v Speaker 2>Going ahead?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Hey Dan, all right, what do you want me

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<v Speaker 5>to talk about?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna put you on hold and Rob will tell

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<v Speaker 2>you what we're talking about. Okay, Well, we'll get you

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<v Speaker 2>in a moment here south in Los Angeles. Sal, I

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<v Speaker 2>bet you you're ready to talk, Go right ahead, Sal.

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<v Speaker 5>Sir, so, I heard about real estate and like, uh,

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<v Speaker 5>outrageous rents and and properties and so forth. I mean, dude,

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<v Speaker 5>in Massachusetts, wasn't the middle class pretty much dominant.

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<v Speaker 2>In the long no, no, no, no, for a long time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Massachusetts was a great Uh. I think was a great

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<v Speaker 2>state and uh and it still has the potential to

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<v Speaker 2>be a great state. But yeah, we've kind of lost

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<v Speaker 2>our way here. I mean it's you know, we have

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<v Speaker 2>so many people who were taking as opposed to people

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<v Speaker 2>who are contributing, and every there there were people who

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<v Speaker 2>were in real need. I just was on a on

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<v Speaker 2>a website here that that I'm on. It's called next door.

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<v Speaker 2>You probably heard about it. It's a national website like

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<v Speaker 2>your neighborhood. You can join it. So this poor individual,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to tell you what it is, but

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<v Speaker 2>I just just popped up in my In my email,

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<v Speaker 2>the fellow writes, Okay, I've been at this library for

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<v Speaker 2>warmth from nine am to nine pm. I have no

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<v Speaker 2>idea what to do as it's going to be freezing

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<v Speaker 2>out again. It's cold here in Massachusetts tonight. I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 2>for this, but I'm begging for financial support for a

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<v Speaker 2>hotel for a night or something, because what else do

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<v Speaker 2>I feel my bones hurting from the colt. So this

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<v Speaker 2>is a this is a resident, I'm guessing, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>on a on a on an anonymous website begging for

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<v Speaker 2>money because he has no money in Massachusetts. I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's frustrating to to real that people realize that people

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<v Speaker 2>who are here are not being taken care of, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're inviting people to commit to the state and encouraging

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<v Speaker 2>people to commit to the state. Yeah, we crossed into

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<v Speaker 2>the country illegally.

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<v Speaker 5>It doesn't. It doesn't work out, dude. I mean, how

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<v Speaker 5>you doing in La?

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, these days.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm great in La, man. I mean, I worked my

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<v Speaker 5>ax off. I've been. I've been. God, I'm riginally from Boston,

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<v Speaker 5>works in New York, US to LA.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, don't you have a homeless don't you have

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<v Speaker 2>a homeless crisis out there too?

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<v Speaker 5>Of course we do. And it's funny because all of

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<v Speaker 5>a sudden, all the bridges underneath are like cleared out.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like weird kama I think they call us Comma

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<v Speaker 5>Kamala land.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, well they'll be back, they'll be back. I mean, ye, look,

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<v Speaker 2>Sandie see I remember San Diego did it in advance

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<v Speaker 2>of the Republican National Convention in nineteen ninety six. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a tactic that has been used by big city

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<v Speaker 2>mayors for a long time. They got everybody out of town.

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<v Speaker 2>They gave them one way tickets to wherever they want.

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<v Speaker 2>Well eventually they come back.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, well LA has got the ollip in a few

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<v Speaker 5>years and the mayor from l A went out to

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the Olympics in Paris this year and said hey,

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<v Speaker 5>and then they announced a new police commissioner, and she's like,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what, he's going to be the police commissioner

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<v Speaker 5>to do our justice for the Olympics coming up. And

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<v Speaker 5>it's funny. It's like down the street from me, I

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<v Speaker 5>have a major thoroughway. Used to be like three or

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<v Speaker 5>four r v's on the street. Now it's like three.

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<v Speaker 5>So I guess I guess they're trying to clean up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we will see. Yeah, it's it's it's not right

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<v Speaker 2>back here in Massachusetts right now. Have to put it

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<v Speaker 2>that way. But there's a lot of people hurting and

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm trying to come back.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we'll bring a lot of money if you where

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<v Speaker 2>you want to live, where where you want to go,

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<v Speaker 2>Get an apartment, our house.

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<v Speaker 5>I love if switch dude, I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone here, you know you'll need a couple of million.

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<v Speaker 2>Always a really nice house.

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<v Speaker 5>My family has houses in Lake One of Pasake.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a lot, a lot more reasonable than Massachusetts for

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<v Speaker 2>people coming here. Hey, sal let's keep the conversation going about.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately I got the eleven o'clock news coming around the

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<v Speaker 2>corner here. My man. Thank you much as always, thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for listening. Thanks every great night. Back on nights that

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<v Speaker 2>let's continue this conversation on the other side of the

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<v Speaker 2>eleven