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Speaker 1: Welcome to the caffeine entrance. As always, I always forget

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how in your face that is good morning on a Saturday.

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Eleven o'clock here on the East Coast. I think it's

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like four am. For Chris, I don't know where he is.

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And Brodie, where are you? What time?

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Speaker 2: Well are central? So it is ten o'clock here in Illinois.

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Speaker 1: So you guys are doing the heavy lifting. Ere I'm

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mid afternoon. What's going on? How's everything going, Chris Man?

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Speaker 3: Things are so good, just busy, like it's it's a

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really fun time in the hobby right now. There's two

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new shops that just opened up in Burbank and David

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Adams in New York. And yeah, when you see places

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open up at retail, it's a good indicator that things

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are going really well in the hobby.

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Speaker 1: We've got a whole segment dedicated to p s A today,

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so we're going to cover all sorts of news. I

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know there's some new hubs open. Uh, there's a policy

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on cleaning that that came out on submissions, so I

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definitely want to touch on some of that. Brody, what's

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going on, man, how's it going? What are you? What

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are you opening these days, and what's going on with

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your collecting.

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Speaker 2: It's going good Man opening some wrestling when I can.

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It's still crazy. I'm not a surprise to hear that

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still crazy expensive. And it's been a minute since they've

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put out a new set. Tops. We need a new

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wrestling set. But anyways, it's been good to open in

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some baseball Baseball seas has been great. The White Sox

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actually look like a competitive team, even if they stink.

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Speaker 1: Not not not to throw it out there, but two

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to one yesterday, Okay, we lose by one run.

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Speaker 2: I'm not mad. I'm not bad.

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Speaker 1: We might be racing for the bottom this year. It's

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been a sad year. You know what? You just brought

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up something I'm gonna vieer off topic. Real quick patch

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cards in WWE and UFC. Thoughts on patch cards in general, Brady,

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And do you like to see it in WWE and UFC.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited for that. I think it's great because

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these wrestlers have big time matches, and I think especially

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the higher end sets, TOPS will put a note like

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this is from this specific match at this specific event.

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I think it's cool. We had some patch stuff with Gernini,

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but not a whole lot of stuff. And with fanatics

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being with tops, they'll be able to get really specific

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material from the wrestlers. So I think it'll be really cool.

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Speaker 1: Chris, how often are people when they're grading? Is the

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patch a real big part of the grading process? I mean,

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the threads and all that. I mean, does that play

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into it at all? I've I've never actually asked.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, honestly, it's not as big a deal

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as it was when I was on the manufacturer side.

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You know, patch patches and PA swapping was a major

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concern when I was at upper Deck, And while I

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was there, you know, I was talking with the president

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and he was like, I got I got something coming

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down the pipe. I got something that's going to make

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this better. And I was like it better be good, man,

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Like this is this is a problem. And for upper

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Deck to share that for Connor Bedard's rookie season, that

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they are actually slabbing cards and imaging them to create

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an image database of all the different patches is a

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really big deal for the hobby in my In my opinion,

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I think that one of the reasons that that we

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didn't do it when I was there is. The more

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you handle cards, the more issues that that can you know,

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the more they're all conditioned sensitive, right, so you want

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them to be hard signed, you want the athlete to

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handle them.

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Speaker 4: The athletes don't always know how to perfectly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not exactly greaters themselves.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So so for them to come up with this program

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is you know, pretty pretty amazing. It shows the hobby focus,

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whereas I think some of the other manufacturers may not

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be as understanding to to the plight of collectors. Uh

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and and how they might may have been burned by

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fake patches or things along those lines in the past.

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I'm really impressed and happy with what they came up

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with there. For again, connor Bidar's rookie season in the Cup.

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Speaker 1: Can you just piggyback on that a little bit because

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I'm not sure people are aware always because patch cards

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are so limited, the patch card world can get expensive quickly,

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and there's some real big niche players. What exactly is

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faking the patch? What were people doing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't want to give them the secret

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sauce on how to do.

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Speaker 1: It in general, where they I went out of one

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card putting it.

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Speaker 3: In there is there is a way to you know,

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die cut out what patch you want to put in

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to a card, and there is a way where you

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could separate the card and remove the pats that's in there.

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You have to do it very carefully, obviously, it's more people.

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More often than not, people totally screw up the card

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with type of process and made it make a terrible mistake.

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But there are a few that can can actually get

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this done. And if you take a white swatch, let's say,

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for the Toronto maple leaves, and then replace it with

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a brilliant C for the Captain or something else, really

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unique that that card can sell for two to three

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times the value. And there were enough bad actors in

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the industry that were doing that that it created a

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gray market, if you will, where where people were creating

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these augmented cards. And unfortunately it's they're they're not game used,

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they're not player war, and they're not even photo shoot.

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They're just some dude grabbed a patch and cut it

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up and inserted into a card. So now it sounds

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like for Upper Deck they're going to slab the cards

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and then image them several times over from different angles,

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so there will be a whole image database, bring up

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the you pull that card, you can go to their

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website and enter that that serial number and it will

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bring up various images of the cards, so you know

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that that patch is the patch that was from the manufacturer.

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Speaker 1: Brody, I'm slow, so let me ask one more question

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than I've got three for your promise. Mooky asked a question,

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and this was kind of what I was thinking. Does

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Upper decks slabing them take grading companies out of the process?

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Speaker 3: You know, we've seen, We've seen company is to slabbing

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so to speak. Leaf has done it tops with luminaries,

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which is a premium product, does it? And we still

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get those cards in for submission at p s A.

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I know other grading companies do too, So not necessarily,

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I personally, and I'm sure my company would agree that

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anything that helps protect the collector is a good thing.

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So yeah, I think it's awesome. So no, we'll still

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see those cards come through for for grading, for sure,

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But to have it start off in a in a

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safe space, I think.

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Speaker 4: That's really great.

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Speaker 1: Bertie. You don't submit a lot to grading, you break

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a lot, right?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yeah, I've noticed, I've noticed Brody, your PSA

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kind of little light.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Chris emailed me to bring that up earlier. He

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will to publicly call you out on that. My point is,

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I hear so many people getting back to your opening

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packs again. I hear you know it's just taking packs

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to baseball games, Chris, I know you've done that and

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opening them in random places. Do you have a routine?

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somebody who opens a ton of Is it always at

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the kitchen table? Very organized? What type of opener are you?

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Speaker 2: I open packs everywhere. I mean I filled my daily

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rip at this desk. I'll open stuff in the back

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room when I'm watching, you know, MLB game or we

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things on. But anywhere I go that I think is

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kind of interesting. I usually have a pack. Like I

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was at the Admirals game last week and I brought

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a hockey pack. Any sort of event or anything like that,

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even like six Flags or something like that, where it's

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nice outside and cool stuff's around, I always got a

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pack in case I want to film something or I

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just want to open a pack for fun.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever tried it on a roller coaster?

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Speaker 2: I mean I could, but i'd want to do something

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in one card because we better go fast. That would

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be an epic video.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, maybe maybe a good briefcase.

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Speaker 2: On there, and you know, I'll just lie down on

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the right and we got.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna need a full protective case for them. But

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in all seriousness, do you ever worry about damaging the

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cards or is it about pulling the card for you?

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Speaker 2: I think about it sometimes. I always have a case

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or something that I can or I just put them

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back in the pack. I always have something just to

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sure that you know, if I do pull a big

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card that nothing happens. But I mean, I'm never too

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worried about it.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: One of the has happened with a hobby becoming more

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mainstream is at my son's baseball game. Snackshack now sells

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baseball from tops boxes like that, and most of the

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kids know me as the card guy.

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Speaker 4: So there will be.

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Speaker 3: Times when someone will pull a good card from the

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Snackshack and they'll be come running to me like, mister Carlin,

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what should I do? And I've started to put Ultra

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pro soft sleeves and card savers and semi rigids in

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my car, so I'll bring them out to kids, like, Okay,

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just keep it safe because they're you know, one hands

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covered in like nacho cheese sauce and the other one's

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got the card. So yeah, always have supplies with them.

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Speaker 1: That brings up my next question. I've seen like four

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articles in the hobby recently on protecting cards. Now that

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there's one touch, there's toploaders, there's card savers for raw cards.

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When you guys are opening how do you like to

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just hold them before you do anything with them or

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just to put them in a cardboard box? Brodie, what

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Speaker 2: I usually use toploaders, I mean, and I'm not like

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against card savers and anything, and usually just toploaders just

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what I have, So I usually end up using a

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sleeve in a toploader for the most part.

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Speaker 3: Chris, Yeah, I I have a new thing that I do,

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and maybe it's like collector add but coming to work

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for PSA, there's there's oils on your hands that can

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transfer to cards. And so now anytime I'm opening packs,

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and I just opened up a box with my son

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last night, I made him wash his hands thoroughly and

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dry them and I did the same. I know it's

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like crazy, but like you have to protect your cards

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a little bit. So that's my that's my new policy

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before I before I open product is a thorough hand washing.

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So again, I know it's a crazy collector thing, but

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I know that it happens where you know, you can

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you can screw up a nice card by having something

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transferred to it.

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Speaker 1: I'd be curious in the chat room what people do.

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I've actually really started to like the one touches with

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the penny sleeve on the inside so it doesn't scratch

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the card. Also, and that's not for every card in

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the pack, but you know, for something you pull, uh,

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you know, it's fun if you can get it.

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Speaker 3: Into a penny sleeve like that is my that's my

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go to is like immediately something cool goes into a

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penny and just I know it's it's not totally safe,

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but it's it's not raw.

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Speaker 1: You know, I just penn sleeves on ye, Orlando, I

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know a lot of people every card into a penny

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sleeve absolutely all right. Logan says that he's eating chicken

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fingers while opening up card packs. I think that's it

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your purse.

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Speaker 4: No, Like we all do these things.

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Speaker 3: Like I used to eat SA like every every breaker

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night was like, all right, let's get pizza, and uh,

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it's the worst thing you can have is greasy hands

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and extremely collectible cards like it's absolutely going to transfer.

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So I've just gotten weird and a little ad D.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that in the hobby, by the way,

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that's I know you you are almost well Chris, you're

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amongst your people. Yeah, yeah, exactly. All right, Well, I

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wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't say you

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walked me into the next question. I think we need

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to talk a little bit about the Ryan Hogue tweet

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and the cleaning, if you can comment on it. If not,

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definitely want to talk about the two new facilities that

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have opened up, because I think people don't realize that

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one is exclusively for tickets in Texas and another one

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in Florida and hopefully to speed up turnarounds. So I

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know people have a lot of questions, Chris, what can

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean we are we have a team

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always looking at what else can we do at PSA

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to help collectors on their journey. We have a mission

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statement make collecting safe and fun, it's something I really

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believe in, Like that's that's an important mission statement. And

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we're always looking at what collectors would.

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Speaker 4: Like from us in terms of services.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy to me how we forget sometimes how different

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everyone collects. Every collector is different, even though we all

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are like you said, like we're all nerds. I'm in

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a safe space, but we all collect in different ways.

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I collect different than Brody does. And because of that,

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it's important for a company like ps A to know,

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you know, what services do people like, so frequently put

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out surveys about collecting habits and what services can we

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offer that collectors might be interested. For some reason, this

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recent survey where we were looking at, you know, and

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a variety of options that we could give collectors has

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stuck out with one thing that we put on there,

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which was cleaning up the cart a little bit, doing

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some doing some basic clean.

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Speaker 4: Up for it.

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Speaker 3: And and right now graters actually do some minor touchups

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to customers cards when they come in. If someone has

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a big thumbprint on a card, they'll they'll clean it

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up a little bit with they you know, they're not

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using solutions or different materials like that, they're using a

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microfiber cloth and cleaning it up, touching it up.

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Speaker 4: So if people with us having.

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Speaker 3: This relationship with eBay, a lot of people now are

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buying cards directly from eBay. A new service we just

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launched is buy from eBay and go directly to grading.

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to grading. So how can you even look at it

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to properly assess if it needs to be wiped down?

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question in there and wanted to see if if people

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would want a service like that. But for some reason,

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sometimes the hobby globs on on to little things and

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makes a big deal out of them. So, uh, that

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seems to be the one that has been causing a

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lot of collector Well what are they doing? Why are

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they why are they cleaning cards? It's simple wipe downists,

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Speaker 1: Well it's hobby hobby high school, as we always say. So,

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can you just talk about the new facilities real quick?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So those are are pretty exciting. So I'm actually

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in the process of looking for people to man uh

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the Plano, Texas facility. Uh, we're going to be interviewing

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for that shortly. So the roles that I'm looking for

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are for concierge reps to take in submissions from dealers

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from collectors. Not only will this be a ticket grading

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facility in Texas, it will be a drop off point

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for collector going to the Dallas Card Show and other

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shows like that. Like you know that it is a

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hotbed of collecting out there, and for us to have

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a hub there to allow people to drop off everything

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from cards to funkos to tickets, it's a good thing.

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Speaker 4: So PSA.

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Speaker 3: The biggest thing I've been amazed by as I joined

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this company is how quickly they've been able to scale

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operation and it's crazy for greaters, Like when we launched Tokyo,

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we had greaters working in our sant Ana facility for

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six months who were going to be greaters in Tokyo.

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Like that's how much they invest in people, and I

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think that that's pretty amazing and awesome. So it's been

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really cool to see how big the company has, the

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levels they've gotten to with facility in New Jersey that's

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fully operational and Tokyo. But the craziest thing to me

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is the grading consistency that if I take a card

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for grading and I drop it off in a location

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New Jersey, California, or Tokyo, the consistency of the grading

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is frighteningly accurate. So uh, that's that's pretty cool to see.

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different level. Like it's something I never could do. Like

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as much as I train myself to look at cards

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or things like that, like I still miss a crease

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or or little things and the Greater. I'll talk to

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do you not see this? I'm like, I don't know, man,

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Like you're that's what they pay you the big bucks for.

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So uh, graters are a different animal. It's really cool

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to see they have and how good they are at

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spotting things. But then the new the other facility will

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be in in Florida, and you know, I think that

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will be another great opportunity for us to continue to

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scale and give regionality to get things back to people quicker.

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see what comes next.

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Speaker 1: Awesome. Uh, Broty, I'm going to switch over to fanatics

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Fest because nothing you're going and nothing you're you're an

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expert on it, but the amount of coverage for not

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just the card show, but the athletes signing, the interactive

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wrestling UFC, all the corporate entertainment. Is that the type

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of show you could see in the future being more

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interested in is it? Does that appeal to you more

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or you appear just card jumbling.

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Speaker 2: I can see it to the general sports fan being

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the bigger show because like, the athletes are there, and

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the athletes are doing things there and contests there. I

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think to the broader sports fan that, you know, maybe

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they somewhat collect cards, but they're just a huge Patriots fan,

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so they get to see Tom Brady or whatever, I

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think it appeals more to them. But I think to

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the card collectors it's kind of split. I mean, I

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know there's a lot of people that like going there,

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but shows like the National I think are still at

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least to people like me that I love sports, but

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I love sports cards too. I think appeals more because

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of just how much is there in terms of different vendors.

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Speaker 1: Chris experiential athlete, you know, initiatives are very hot, and

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fanatics is certainly doing that. Upper Deck, you know, continues

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to sign athletes to deals and who knows what they're

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going to be doing with them. Can you just your

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opinions on where the market's going with actually working with

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the athletes and what fanatics Fest is trying to tie

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that all together.

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Speaker 4: Listen.

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Speaker 3: I went to fanetics Fest last year. I had high

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expectations for it. It blew my expectations out of the water.

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I have never seen a show like Fanatics Fest. They

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really tried to make it like a comic con. So

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one of the cool parts about comic con is all

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the people that are in cosplay, you know, that are

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dressed up and feel like when you get there you're

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in a different world almost, And so for them to

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do something cool with regard to having people dress up

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and giving prizes out for people who are are dressed

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up like their favorite app Like I was. I was

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walking around and I was like, Oh, there's the Iron

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Chic and there's Tom Brady, you know, like you know,

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not the real Tom Brady. He was walking around there too,

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like it was. It was crazy. One of my favorite

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pictures I have is I was trying to go down

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the escalator and Dana White was coming up the escalator

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with like three three State troopers and like this huge

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crowd and I'm like Sam and going upstream like there's

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no way I'm getting getting down the escalator. And but

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that's what was so cool. And you're you're walking around

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and there's Livy Dunn dressed up as Paul's schemes and

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like it's like, where where am I? And it's it's

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it's it's a show like I've never seen. It's it's like,

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it's okay to collect and just be a total nerd

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for sports you love. We are not going to be there.

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PSA is not going to be there, but I'm I'm

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absolutely would I choose to take my twelve and thirteen

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year old to Fanatics Fest or the National It's Fanatics Fast,

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and I'm really planning this out, like how do I

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take my kids to this? Because it was again an

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event like I have never seen before in the hobby.

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So what I hoped for when TOPS was initially purchased

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by Michael Eisner was Okay, this guy's going to elevate

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the brand. He's going to do things that have never

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been done before. He's this entertainment icon, He's gonna do

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these cool things. Well, he didn't and it took someone

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like Michael Rubin and his team to elevate a little

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bit and listen, there's a million different things that we

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can say that we like or don't like about Rubin

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and Fanatics at the Tops acquisition, but they do some

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really great things like Fanatics vests that bring you closer

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to the hobby you love and closer to the athletes

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you love.

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Speaker 4: Literally, you could.

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Speaker 3: Be at a at a at a table and you turn,

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you turn to your left and there's freaking the real

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Tom Brady, you know, like it's it's crazy. So I

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think it's a really special event. I think if you

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do not go in its infancy, uh, you are going

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to miss the opportunity to uh to.

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Speaker 4: Be close to some of these athletes.

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Speaker 3: I think it's just gonna get bigger and bigger and bigger,

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and you'll miss out on how intimate it currently is.

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Speaker 1: My real big beef with Michael Rubin iss I bought

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an entirely white outfit and have not been inviting. I

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don't know if the chicken or the egg. I don't

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know how this works. Yeah, yeah, but you know.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, honestly, there's there's a whole vip area, Like,

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when's the last time you saw jay Z and Beyonce

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trading card show?

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Speaker 4: Seriously? Like what?

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, there's flipping young ageoe, you know, like

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it's what's going on here? So yeah, I think it's

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I think it's a pretty crazy, crazy environment that they've

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created and a good thing for the hobby for sure.

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Speaker 1: I went last year and share a lot of your sentiment.

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But I will say I think this is a pretty

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fair comment. It sounds like a Super Bowl card show

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and a Baseball All Star Game fan fest. Fun a bet,

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but not real great for finding cards I need. I

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could see that you're not going to get the it's

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not the national for card strictly for cards at this point.

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It doesn't compare. You're not going to find Rose and

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Rose and Rose to go through for set collector. I

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didn't get that vibe. I got a vibe of a

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lot more dealers, a lot more modern, and a lot

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of the athletes that were actually at the event.

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Speaker 3: Yes, a lot more modern. So yeah, it is not

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Age Card Show by any stretch.

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Speaker 1: Rex, are you guys going, I'm just curious. He says,

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they've expanded their space dedicated to dealers. This year. I'd

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be curious if any dealers on here are going and

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what they've learned so far. But the autographs are ridiculous.

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And I know that it was a first year there

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were some things to work out on the autograph side,

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but my understanding is they've worked all that out. Berty,

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How big are you into autographs? If you go to

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a card.

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Speaker 2: Show, I I like like getting a meeting athlete, but

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at the same time, like I feel like that it

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takes away from the card show kind of because I

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got to dedicate this time and I got to be

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there at a certain time. But I mean, if it's

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somebody that people really like, I get why they do it.

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Speaker 1: Definitely, do you see the average person? And this is

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in general, I think the autograph prices have gotten expensive,

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and I know to get these types of athletes that

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there's going to be a cost there. Do you have

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a break even point? BROTI, like up to fifty bucks

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you'll t anybody? You know?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like I think like that one hundred

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dollars range is like, you know, like one hundred dollars

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range I think is good. I mean, but you see

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at the National I'm sure if and I access to

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some of the people, you know, like Mariano Rivera is

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like four hundred and fifty bucks. David Ortiz was supposed

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to be there. I think he was like five hundred

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bucks when he was scheduled. And I mean, yeah, they're

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Hall of Famers and stuff, but that's a lot of

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money for a quick little autograph and it sits on

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your wall.

476
00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: You know, Hey, I'm looking at Chris's background. He obviously

477
00:26:35,759 --> 00:26:39,480
has no interest in memorabilia or autographs or anything of

478
00:26:39,519 --> 00:26:41,400
the kind. Are those signed? Any of those?

479
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:41,839
Speaker 3: Oh?

480
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're all signed.

481
00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:46,839
Speaker 3: Uh, And I I have never I have never done

482
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,160
a gotten an autograph at a show, believe it or not.

483
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,799
So I am a big believer in send in signings,

484
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,839
So I think those are those are definitely cool. But

485
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,400
I don't nothing that I've is done into the show now.

486
00:27:02,759 --> 00:27:07,000
Usually it's because I'm busy. It shows like I'm always

487
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,920
working for a manufacturer or with P. S A. Today,

488
00:27:10,039 --> 00:27:12,759
so I don't have a lot of extra time to

489
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,480
stand in the line. That's the thing that I think

490
00:27:15,559 --> 00:27:18,799
just drives people crazy is that that line. Now, granted,

491
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,880
the line is filled with collectors and everyone has an

492
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,480
ink story and so it's it's good line gossip. You know,

493
00:27:25,519 --> 00:27:28,440
it's better than being at Disneyland waiting for a line

494
00:27:28,839 --> 00:27:32,440
or right in the line. But yeah, it's uh, it's

495
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,440
it's not something that i've I've done before.

496
00:27:35,759 --> 00:27:39,039
Speaker 1: My son got a couple of autographs. I don't do it.

497
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,400
I will say those interactions with the athletes Bo Jackson

498
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:48,079
and Alan Iverson specifically were so positive. It just he's

499
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,559
going to be a fan of them forever. And they weren't.

500
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,599
I mean, they were on the mid to lower end

501
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,799
of cost compared to some of the other guys. And

502
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,519
but after seeing him do it and get the interaction,

503
00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:04,920
you're paying for more than the signature. So I just

504
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,000
want to say, if you have kids and they have

505
00:28:07,079 --> 00:28:09,200
a favorite athlete or you want to teach them somebody

506
00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:13,440
you grew up in your generation. So the logan says,

507
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,359
in the twenty Nationals I've been to, I've only paid

508
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,039
for two autographs. Who are they? Logan? That's how much

509
00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:21,799
I care about meeting athletes and celebrities. Logan, that's because

510
00:28:21,799 --> 00:28:24,759
you're a PSA Hall of Famer. Did you got to

511
00:28:24,799 --> 00:28:26,920
get your well.

512
00:28:26,759 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 3: One thing you just mentioned Allan Iverson one and going

513
00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:33,480
back just a quick step back to Fanatics past. One

514
00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:38,160
thing that I found amazing about that show was on Sundays,

515
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,240
and most trading card shows, you see people start packing

516
00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:44,880
up early, you know, and you instantly when you walk

517
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,920
in on a Sunday to a Saturday, it's a very

518
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,519
different experience, right because on Sunday you'll see that already

519
00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:55,759
there are booths that are not manned, they're not stationed,

520
00:28:55,839 --> 00:28:58,519
there's empty tables, and you're like, wait a second, I

521
00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:00,920
paid for this experience and I don't feel like I'm

522
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,599
getting my whole thing. At Fanatics best, everyone stays till

523
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,519
the end. And one thing that they did last year,

524
00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:10,720
I was like, this is crazy. They did a panel

525
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,839
with Alan Iverson half an hour before the show was

526
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,440
set to close on Sunday, and it was amazing, Like

527
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,720
everyone was jam packed around this Alan Iverson panel. It's

528
00:29:21,759 --> 00:29:25,400
just spitting all sorts of amazing knowledge, and it's the

529
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:30,200
show is still like highly functioning and totally you feel

530
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,799
like you felt like Sunday late afternoon was a Friday

531
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,480
at six o'clock, you know. So I kudos to them

532
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,200
for that. I think that was really surprising to me

533
00:29:43,119 --> 00:29:45,119
from you know, getting your bank for your buck for

534
00:29:46,039 --> 00:29:49,640
a three day pass to see it still busy on

535
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,400
a Sunday was really cool.

536
00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:55,039
Speaker 1: Stuch says some of us old timers were spoiled on

537
00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:58,599
the old prices and free events for autographs. Yeah, not

538
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,640
only talking to George, Mike and Warren Spawn when getting

539
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:07,079
an autograph was very true. Also, want to give an

540
00:30:07,119 --> 00:30:10,359
update on hobby Hotline in general. Meant to meant to

541
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,559
do some housekeeping. At the beginning, We're going to the

542
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,920
every other week model, so starting in June it will

543
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:22,160
be the first and third weekends Saturdays, UH and that'll

544
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,240
help rotate and help with the schedule a little bit.

545
00:30:25,319 --> 00:30:28,319
So I just want to clear that up. John has

546
00:30:28,359 --> 00:30:32,240
made that decision to go to UH two weekends a month,

547
00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:37,559
which is probably more than enough of us. Anyway, moving forward,

548
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:43,240
UH broty baseball, Who's Who's the cards? If price wasn't

549
00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:45,920
an object, you would be you'd be chasing because there's

550
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,720
still runway, there's still some upside.

551
00:30:47,839 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people this season that have been

552
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,480
showing out. And I know I live in Chicago and

553
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,279
Pete Crore Armstrong's having this great year but not mentioned

554
00:30:57,279 --> 00:31:01,319
Pete Armstrong, cal Raley on the Seattle Mariners. I know

555
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,279
he's in an interesting market in Seattle, but that man

556
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,720
has got a great average for a catcher. He's hitting

557
00:31:07,759 --> 00:31:11,599
home runs, and his cards are not that expensive. I

558
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,680
love cal Rally, You're gonna invest in somebody. That's my

559
00:31:14,839 --> 00:31:15,880
play right there.

560
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: In the best nickname baseball, the big Dumper.

561
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:19,079
Speaker 2: Love it.

562
00:31:19,359 --> 00:31:23,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. Do you think there's any room left on

563
00:31:23,839 --> 00:31:24,799
Judge or Atani?

564
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: I think yes, because Otani is still supposed to come

565
00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:33,839
back to pitch, and if he comes back in pitches

566
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,319
like he was before, I mean, he's the best player

567
00:31:37,319 --> 00:31:40,279
in baseball. But then you bring up Aaron Judge, who's

568
00:31:40,359 --> 00:31:43,079
hitting three ninety two right now, and I think his

569
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,200
second in home runs or third in home runs. He's

570
00:31:46,279 --> 00:31:49,279
having the best year of his career, and we're at

571
00:31:49,359 --> 00:31:51,559
I mean we're a fourth in the season, a little

572
00:31:51,599 --> 00:31:53,920
past fourth through the season. The fact that he's still

573
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,680
hitting three ninety two. I'm not saying he's gonna hit

574
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,000
three ninety but he might certainly finish the year three

575
00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:03,200
seventy five or something like that, which is crazy for

576
00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:06,240
this day and age in baseball. So I still see

577
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,759
some room, especially with the big market teams that they're on.

578
00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: Chris, I see Showy hit two homers much less coming

579
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,519
back pitching, and I think, oh my gosh, could we

580
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,680
really just be getting started? I mean, what type of runway?

581
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,319
I mean, you're out there and have a better feel

582
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,359
for the pulse of it. Are you seeing? I mean,

583
00:32:24,599 --> 00:32:25,440
could there still be?

584
00:32:25,799 --> 00:32:26,279
Speaker 4: Yeah.

585
00:32:26,079 --> 00:32:30,839
Speaker 3: The coolest thing I've done in my life is start

586
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,839
going to international baseball games. So as a family, we

587
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,440
decided last year. My wife grew up in South Korea,

588
00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:41,359
and we went to the MLB I think it's called

589
00:32:41,359 --> 00:32:45,640
the World Tour. So it was the Padres against the

590
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,279
Dodgers in South Korea. How awesome. I'm a Padre fan,

591
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,839
hate the Dodgers. Great, And we go there and the

592
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,200
experience is just so different, right like you're you're in

593
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,839
a There's just a simple difference. There's so many when

594
00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:04,000
you're sitting in the stands. But you could buy a beer,

595
00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:06,400
or you could buy a six pack of beer, or

596
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:07,960
you could buy a case of beer and take it

597
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,799
to your seat and drink it. Like that's how they

598
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,720
offer it up. So all these little things. There's cheerleaders,

599
00:33:14,839 --> 00:33:18,759
there's songs for different players and for my family and

600
00:33:18,759 --> 00:33:20,200
my kids to experience that.

601
00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:22,559
Speaker 4: It was so cool. But it was show Hey.

602
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: Show Hey was out there and it was a big

603
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:30,319
deal and people flew in from Japan to Korea to

604
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,559
try to try to see show Hey. It's the closest

605
00:33:32,599 --> 00:33:35,160
he's going to be and it was a huge deal.

606
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,119
And then this year we went to Japan, we went

607
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,400
to the Tokyo series and the one thing that my

608
00:33:40,559 --> 00:33:43,559
kids could not get over was right when we got

609
00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:46,680
off the plane. So when we got on the plane again,

610
00:33:47,079 --> 00:33:52,160
when you go to Japan, show Hey is everywhere, Like everywhere,

611
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,160
watch watch commercial, you know, just everything you could think

612
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:02,599
of for an athlete to promote, he's doing it. And

613
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:09,079
it's it's a whole different level of fandom for Otani

614
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:13,079
and rightfully so, like he hit a home run there,

615
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:15,760
And the other thing that was interesting about Japan that

616
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,199
was different than Korea is everyone is definitely silent, silent

617
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,400
between pitches, so they do that out of respect to

618
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,920
the batter, and so it was just a different way

619
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,239
to watch a baseball game, I guess. But when he

620
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,920
hit one of his home runs there, people went crazy,

621
00:34:31,079 --> 00:34:35,840
Like so it goes from deathly silent to pandemonium, you know,

622
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,559
So it was a different way to watch a baseball game,

623
00:34:38,599 --> 00:34:44,039
a different experience. But long story short, the worldwide interest

624
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:47,800
in this this player is something like I've never seen before,

625
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,960
and and I gave out I think it's funny. I

626
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,000
know this sounds terrible, but as a Padre fan, I

627
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,199
think it's really fun to give Angels cards of show

628
00:34:57,199 --> 00:35:00,280
Hey Otani to Dodger fans. Like it's just like a

629
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,960
little like a little jab I can do. But they

630
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,039
love it, you know, they're so excited to get them.

631
00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:09,199
So uh, it's funny that show Hey went to such

632
00:35:09,199 --> 00:35:13,760
a rival. So I loved giving out show Hay cards there.

633
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,000
But it was like I was handing out fifty dollars bills,

634
00:35:16,039 --> 00:35:18,639
you know, and I brought like two dollars Show Hay cards,

635
00:35:18,679 --> 00:35:21,360
you know, stuff from like National Baseball Card Day and

636
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,840
things like that. But it might as well have been

637
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,960
that I'm handing out gold bricks there, you know, Like

638
00:35:26,119 --> 00:35:29,760
that is how much people think about something with his

639
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,320
face on it in Japan. And it's it's not just Japan,

640
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,400
like it's he's.

641
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 4: All over the world.

642
00:35:36,039 --> 00:35:40,159
Speaker 3: So he is that Michael Jordan esque type player Tiger

643
00:35:40,199 --> 00:35:44,280
Woods and his prime type player and Yeah, I think

644
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,320
you're right, Brody. I think there's still a ceiling. The

645
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,840
ceiling hasn't been reached for him. If he goes back

646
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,079
to pitching for the Dodgers and they win another championship

647
00:35:54,159 --> 00:35:56,480
like game like game over, I don't even know. Like

648
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,760
I've got show Hay cards. I'm looking at a box

649
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,639
of them right now, and there's no way I would

650
00:36:02,679 --> 00:36:04,880
sell those right now, like no way in a million years,

651
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,119
because I know that the ceiling has not been with

652
00:36:07,159 --> 00:36:10,599
this guy. And it's it's amazing to watch, Like how

653
00:36:10,639 --> 00:36:12,920
cool is it that we were born in the time

654
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,840
where you've got Wayne Gretzky, Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, Show

655
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,679
Hey o, Tani like insane.

656
00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:25,199
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I definitely uh talk about generational players, and Brody,

657
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,480
I'm curious of your opinion. I think it's Showhy clearly

658
00:36:28,519 --> 00:36:31,960
for this generation, and I think it was Trout before that.

659
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,639
The Trout market has softened ton better investment right now

660
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,599
Trouter show for whatere their prices are.

661
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: Trout is interesting. Obviously just came back, but he was

662
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,800
struggling before he got hurt. He was hitting for power,

663
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:53,239
but the average was down. But Tani, like Chris said,

664
00:36:53,639 --> 00:36:58,840
Tani is everywhere and is that generational guy. I still

665
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,599
think Trout was was, you know, best player in baseball

666
00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:06,199
for ten years, and that was like the face of baseball.

667
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,239
But he's like more than the face of baseball now.

668
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,199
Atani's like the face of sports.

669
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,639
Speaker 1: Without it, without a data. To Chris's point, you know,

670
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,360
what it's doing in Asia is only going to become

671
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,239
more and more like that in the USA. So I

672
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,320
don't think that's I think Trout is going to be

673
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,320
a Hall of Famer. I think his upside is probably

674
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,000
more the end of his career when people look back.

675
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,000
I think as long as he keeps going on and

676
00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:34,840
off the il, his market will be up and down with.

677
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: That, you know, speaking of speaking of players who have

678
00:37:40,039 --> 00:37:42,519
dipped a little bit. You know, Trout was at the

679
00:37:42,559 --> 00:37:45,360
Apex for a long time and then he's dipped with injuries.

680
00:37:45,519 --> 00:37:48,760
But another player, like I just bought a card yesterday

681
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,480
of this player and it has dipped so much from

682
00:37:53,039 --> 00:37:57,159
a little steroid scandal. So Fernando tattis junior like, in

683
00:37:57,199 --> 00:38:01,079
my opinion, one of the most electrifying players in baseball.

684
00:38:01,519 --> 00:38:03,559
Just you never know what's going to happen when he

685
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:06,239
gets up to bad or when the balls hit his way.

686
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,000
So fun to watch plays with such passion. Still very young,

687
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,719
and uh, his cards took a very serious dip, and

688
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,880
I still I'm I'm a big believer in buying tattoos

689
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,960
Junior right now, just because there's there's some great deals

690
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,880
to be had on a player who is absolutely electric,

691
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,119
who's healthy, and who I think is still going to

692
00:38:28,199 --> 00:38:29,320
do some amazing things.

693
00:38:29,519 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: You like him more than Jackson Merrow.

694
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 3: Danny, it's like asking me who's my favorite son?

695
00:38:35,559 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: I like question.

696
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 4: I like them both in different ways. Danny, don't make me.

697
00:38:41,039 --> 00:38:43,039
Speaker 1: How about Machada.

698
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 4: Machado is is my favorite?

699
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,079
Speaker 1: So yeah he yeah, Oh he's a former World else

700
00:38:48,199 --> 00:38:48,719
I understand.

701
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know he gets a bad beat.

702
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 3: And I've I've told this story to a few people,

703
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:58,280
but I'll share here publicly. I don't think before so, uh,

704
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,960
my youngest son had a just a wacky thing after

705
00:39:02,039 --> 00:39:05,199
COVID happened. He was on the playground and bumped heads

706
00:39:05,199 --> 00:39:09,880
with another kid playing tag and he didn't realize it

707
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,159
at the time, but they hit heads so hard that

708
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,239
he fractured his skull, severed an artery, and had a

709
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,199
blame brain blee and he's at school, so it's, uh,

710
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,400
you know, it's there out of COVID and it's the

711
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,679
first time you can go to recess again and this

712
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,880
thing happened. So I got to call it work to

713
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,440
that there's a problem because he's crying and he doesn't

714
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,360
know what's going on. And they didn't know what's going on,

715
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,239
like it's not like there's blood and uh, my wife

716
00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:39,760
goes and picks them up and takes him to the

717
00:39:40,119 --> 00:39:44,679
to the emergency room. And at the time you could

718
00:39:44,679 --> 00:39:49,000
only be one one family member in there because it

719
00:39:49,039 --> 00:39:53,320
was still COVID and they The weirdest thing happened where

720
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,320
a side door opened in the hospital and I was

721
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,360
outside and a nurse waves me in and she's like,

722
00:39:59,639 --> 00:40:01,559
you have to come say goodbye to your son. And

723
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,760
I was like this is this is nuts? That surreal

724
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,239
moment as a dad, like what is going on here?

725
00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:11,880
And they had to metavac him to Rady's Children's Hospital

726
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,480
in San Diego. He had emergency brain surgery. Everything's fine,

727
00:40:15,519 --> 00:40:18,000
like he just he just came up and gave me

728
00:40:18,039 --> 00:40:20,920
a hug. He's on his way to baseball practice. Amazing that,

729
00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:24,199
you know, children are so resilient. But here's the here's

730
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,199
the Many Machado part of this. Manny Machado ends up

731
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,599
when he moves out here. He's staying in Coronado and

732
00:40:30,679 --> 00:40:33,320
he rents a house right next to my in laws

733
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,199
in Cornado, and my father in law is a huge

734
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,159
Padre fan. And Manny is out there walking the dog

735
00:40:40,199 --> 00:40:43,199
with Yana, his wife, and my father in law's on

736
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,280
the porch waves to him and they're like, hey, what

737
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,639
do you do And he goes, I work for the Padres.

738
00:40:49,079 --> 00:40:51,199
And my father in law is like, oh, I love

739
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:51,840
the Padres.

740
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:52,519
Speaker 4: What do you do?

741
00:40:52,559 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 3: And he goes, I play third base and my father

742
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,559
in law about dies. But so they strike up a friendship,

743
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,920
right and they share that my son had this experience

744
00:41:05,079 --> 00:41:08,360
and my son loves playing baseball. He's out and playing

745
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,440
outfield and he wanted to go back and play, but

746
00:41:11,639 --> 00:41:15,360
they made him wear like a John Olerude hard hat

747
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,840
out there, you know, just to protect his skull when

748
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,320
he's in the field. And he thought that that was

749
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,119
the worst thing ever, Like everyone's going to think I'm weird.

750
00:41:25,199 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 4: What have you?

751
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,199
Speaker 3: Well? Manny hears about this and he says, bring Drew down.

752
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,679
So we bring Drew down to Coronado. He's got to

753
00:41:33,679 --> 00:41:35,639
play a game later that day. He doesn't want to

754
00:41:35,679 --> 00:41:39,159
wear this helmet. Many signed the helmet and gave it

755
00:41:39,199 --> 00:41:41,920
to Drew and said, hey, little guy, keep this on

756
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,360
your head until you're feeling better.

757
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 4: I got you.

758
00:41:44,599 --> 00:41:47,079
Speaker 3: And for him to show up to the game with

759
00:41:47,159 --> 00:41:50,360
a Many Machado autographed helmet that he's out there playing

760
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,239
it was the coolest thing ever for a guy to do.

761
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,760
And you know, there's a lot of stories about players

762
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,280
that are are good and bad, but I want to

763
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,159
collect cards. I want to collect things from people who

764
00:42:03,199 --> 00:42:06,880
are are good. And I tell you what, Many plays

765
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,119
hard on the field, and there's a lot of things like,

766
00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:11,840
oh he's a jerk, he plays too hard, he's too serious,

767
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,320
what have you. But off the field, he's a really

768
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,880
special individual. So that's my And I might have made

769
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,920
Many Machano cards more expensive now because they're actually a

770
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,440
pretty good deal. But I think just one of the

771
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:26,360
most special guys in that.

772
00:42:26,679 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: I love that story, Philly, just as awesome story, Chris,

773
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:35,599
aplus you have not shared that. I thank you real quick.

774
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,360
And Bertie, I'll throw this to you. Any living guy

775
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,280
is going to get to five hundred home runs. Rex

776
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,639
is asking, and I love this question because Charal's had

777
00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:46,599
three eighty seven. Stanton's the only player with more than

778
00:42:46,639 --> 00:42:51,920
four hunts. Most people would think Judge is. I mean,

779
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:56,280
does Judge have fifty homers in him for six more

780
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:57,599
years or yeah?

781
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: I think Judge will. It might be close because he's,

782
00:43:01,559 --> 00:43:03,960
you know, a little bit older, but I think he will.

783
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,519
I think Trout has a shot, but he'd have to

784
00:43:07,519 --> 00:43:11,239
stay healthy, and you know that hasn't really been happening,

785
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,159
so we'll see. But I think Otani could too. I

786
00:43:14,199 --> 00:43:17,199
think Otany Machado has three forty eight. I could see

787
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:18,199
Machado if he has.

788
00:43:18,159 --> 00:43:20,559
Speaker 1: One year and he's one year younger than Trout and Judge,

789
00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:21,199
which I didn't know.

790
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,599
Speaker 2: I could see Kyle Schwarber too because he d h

791
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,760
is every day, so he'll have a long career and

792
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,159
he's already at like three hundred something.

793
00:43:29,519 --> 00:43:32,199
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's the issue with Stanton and Trout.

794
00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:36,719
You know, somebody put in the chat earlier. Availability is

795
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,920
the biggest ability, and there's some truth to that for

796
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,880
staying on the field and show Hey, you know, because

797
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,880
of the dhing, we'll get the at bats but I

798
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,280
don't know that. Uh, hopefully it doesn't get hurt again. Yeah,

799
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,679
all right, I want to wrap it up on the

800
00:43:51,679 --> 00:43:56,840
home scratch here. I had something I wanted to specifically,

801
00:43:57,159 --> 00:44:01,000
and of course I can't remember NBA Finals, NBA Playoffs,

802
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:06,960
real quick cards, cards and players that I mean. Obviously

803
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:11,280
SGA has helped his market a lot. But who else

804
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,559
in the NBA are you guys excited about or you

805
00:44:15,559 --> 00:44:17,320
think turn the corner in the playoffs?

806
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:22,159
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously Tyre's Halliburdon has shown some great flashes.

807
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,719
That guy is really fun to watch. He does at all.

808
00:44:26,079 --> 00:44:29,159
He has down games like in Game five he didn't

809
00:44:29,199 --> 00:44:31,519
really do much, but he doesn't turn the ball over.

810
00:44:32,079 --> 00:44:35,159
Great fundamental player. I'm gonna throw one at you that

811
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:40,039
you might not know much about. Terrence Shannon, Junior, Minnesota Timberwolves.

812
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,639
Started getting some minutes in Game three, in Game four

813
00:44:43,679 --> 00:44:47,400
of that series, and he's electric off the bench. He

814
00:44:47,519 --> 00:44:49,960
is going to be a huge part of the Timberwolves

815
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,280
going forward. So keep that name in the back of

816
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:52,840
your minds.

817
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: I think it might be a pump and dump, but

818
00:44:54,679 --> 00:44:55,400
I like the tip.

819
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 2: He's an Illinois legend. I loved her.

820
00:44:59,559 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: Okay, there we go.

821
00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:04,119
Speaker 4: I've had something controversial to say about NBA playoffs.

822
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: Go for it.

823
00:45:05,199 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 3: No, no, this needs to be made clear. This is

824
00:45:08,159 --> 00:45:11,079
me as Chris Carland, the person, not the not Chris

825
00:45:11,159 --> 00:45:15,320
Carlin from PSA. So my take on the NBA playoffs is,

826
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,360
screw the NBA playoffs. Are you watching the NHL playoffs?

827
00:45:18,559 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 5: Connor McDavid is the in the NHL Final, Like we've

828
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,920
been waiting for this forever, and the Florida Panthers are

829
00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:28,239
flipping good man, Like this is gonna be maybe one

830
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:33,119
of the best NHL Final series in history.

831
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,039
Speaker 4: Like this is basketball.

832
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 3: Like you watch basketball the last four minutes of a

833
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,880
game and you get what's happening hockey, you watch the

834
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,960
whole entire thing. Watch the NHL Final, people, that is

835
00:45:44,039 --> 00:45:46,920
gonna be special. And if you've got Connor McDavid cards,

836
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:51,159
if he hoists the cup, if hoists the Stanley Cup, pandemonium,

837
00:45:51,199 --> 00:45:54,960
Like all your McDavid cards are gonna go exponentially higher.

838
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,760
Because what I've learned in this hobby, when I've been

839
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:02,519
doing this a long time, collecting is a cold weather hobby. Okay,

840
00:46:02,639 --> 00:46:07,840
So if you're in Boston, there's a better hobby area.

841
00:46:08,039 --> 00:46:11,079
That's a better hub than San Diego, California, where you

842
00:46:11,079 --> 00:46:14,239
go outside and there's to do. So if you're inside

843
00:46:14,559 --> 00:46:18,360
and it's an inside hobby, collecting is bigger in those markets.

844
00:46:18,639 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 4: All of Canada is.

845
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:24,079
Speaker 3: Cold, like everyone does collects cards, Tim Hortons.

846
00:46:24,079 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 4: You go to Tim Horton's.

847
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 3: There's there's two different upper deck offerings a year where

848
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,599
you buy your coffee, your donut, and you get a

849
00:46:29,639 --> 00:46:33,760
hockey pack. So I'm telling you all watch the NHL

850
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,960
Final and if Connor McDavid wins the Stanley Cup, Holy cow,

851
00:46:38,199 --> 00:46:40,679
Holy cow, what that will do for the end. It's

852
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:41,920
gonna be It's gonna be wild.

853
00:46:42,159 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: Can I ask a question, how quickly will you see

854
00:46:45,199 --> 00:46:48,320
an increase in submission? So is it within days? Does

855
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,760
it take a couple of weeks to see it?

856
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 3: I mean no, It's just it's just like the hobby,

857
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,960
like if you go on eBay, like cards. It's always

858
00:46:56,039 --> 00:46:58,719
kind of gruesome that when an athlete dies, there's a

859
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,199
whole bunch of eBay list, you know. Ricky Henderson was

860
00:47:01,199 --> 00:47:03,119
one of the more recent ones that I can remember.

861
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,760
But it's it's similar to if if an athlete does

862
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,559
something great or if an athlete wins, gets in the

863
00:47:10,559 --> 00:47:12,840
Hall of Fame or you know, they get a little bump.

864
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,920
But Connor McDavid, man, he is on he is the show.

865
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,360
Heyo Tani of Canada. He's on every commercial, He's everywhere,

866
00:47:20,519 --> 00:47:23,239
working at upper Deck. I was always impressed by He's

867
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:24,840
not like a fun guy to hang out with, Like

868
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,639
he's just hockey all the time. Like he why Gretzky

869
00:47:27,639 --> 00:47:30,159
will tell you some interesting stories. Connor's like, all right,

870
00:47:30,199 --> 00:47:31,639
let me get this done and then I'm gonna move

871
00:47:31,639 --> 00:47:32,360
on to my next thing.

872
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 4: And then I got to get back to hockey.

873
00:47:34,599 --> 00:47:37,639
Speaker 3: So he is that that player that is just totally

874
00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:40,559
dedicated to the sport. But man, I I hope he

875
00:47:40,599 --> 00:47:42,440
gets it. It's it would be a lot of fun

876
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:43,599
to watch awesome.

877
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: Bertie. You follow the hockey.

878
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,679
Speaker 2: Playoffs a little bit. I was a little sad when Artie,

879
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:49,360
what's the final?

880
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 1: I am going?

881
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 2: I will the Jets getting out kind of made me said,

882
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,679
I'm a big Jets guy. I don't know why, but

883
00:47:56,079 --> 00:47:58,599
I think it would be great. Especially it also be

884
00:47:58,679 --> 00:48:01,719
the first Canadian team to win the Cup in thirty

885
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,440
four years or whatever, so it'd be interesting. Also got

886
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,440
Matthew could Chuck maybe my favorite player in the league.

887
00:48:09,639 --> 00:48:12,400
I love Matthew could Chuck. That guy is a beast.

888
00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 4: You're right there.

889
00:48:13,559 --> 00:48:15,639
Speaker 1: First of all, anytime we can work Tim Hortons into

890
00:48:15,639 --> 00:48:18,960
a conversation, it's a good, good show. Just send the

891
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:24,639
coffee and donuts. Good comment here. Shay is also from Canada. Yes,

892
00:48:26,039 --> 00:48:29,480
what was the stud that you guys might have heard? Also,

893
00:48:29,639 --> 00:48:33,920
seven out of the last eight NBA MVPs or international players,

894
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,800
So just you know, following the theme that we were

895
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:42,679
talking about earlier on international collecting and international excitement, it's

896
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,079
more more than just show. Hey, I think we're singing

897
00:48:45,159 --> 00:48:48,960
in all of it. Orlando, who is in Florida, says

898
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,119
Panthers are underrated. Third year in a row playing for

899
00:48:51,159 --> 00:48:52,239
the Cup. Excellent point.

900
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 4: They're really good. Yeah, totally great.

901
00:48:55,639 --> 00:48:59,039
Speaker 1: Nick Abel debut MLB patch game, thousands of cards sold

902
00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:05,199
that day. Still mickable. My favorite question, what are you

903
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,760
guys going to be doing for the hobby in the

904
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:11,039
next weekend, week or two if it's applicable, Chris, anything

905
00:49:11,039 --> 00:49:13,599
for Father's Day hobby related. I'll start with you.

906
00:49:15,039 --> 00:49:18,519
Speaker 3: For Father's Day, I just found out that I went

907
00:49:18,559 --> 00:49:21,239
to a Trading Card show in San Diego front Row

908
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,599
Card Show, and a little shout out to them, Holy cow,

909
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,559
any front row show you go to, like it is

910
00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:31,440
a really quick experience. They they bring dealers and people,

911
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:35,480
so we were super surprised. It was the best show

912
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,039
PSAs had in the San Diego area. But at the

913
00:49:39,079 --> 00:49:41,400
hotel we were at, there were a few things going on.

914
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,760
One was there was a boxing match that night, so

915
00:49:44,119 --> 00:49:46,639
I ended up taking I got back from the show,

916
00:49:46,679 --> 00:49:49,760
exhausted and grab my kids, go back down to the

917
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,599
venue and take them to a boxing match. So fun

918
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,599
like it was, it was great. They should do more

919
00:49:55,599 --> 00:49:59,079
of that at trading card shows, have a boxing match

920
00:49:59,079 --> 00:50:03,480
on the side. But they were promoting a brunch for

921
00:50:03,599 --> 00:50:06,199
Father's Day, and I'm a big brunch guy. But it's

922
00:50:06,199 --> 00:50:09,199
a ron Burgundy brunch, so you the dads can mess

923
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,440
up as Ron Burgundy. There's a Ron Burgundy lookalike contest,

924
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,920
and I've already got three buddies. I'm like, don't tell

925
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,360
our wives what we're doing. Like we're just telling them

926
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:19,639
that we want to go have a brunch here and

927
00:50:19,639 --> 00:50:24,199
then we'll we'll have our ron Burgundy costumes in the

928
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,079
in the in the bag and go into the bathroom

929
00:50:27,079 --> 00:50:30,880
and change. So that's my father's day plans. But it

930
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,440
all came from a trading card show.

931
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:33,519
Speaker 4: So that was pretty funny.

932
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: Real quick, we'll get one more question and eventually we'll

933
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:41,079
book overtime. PSA accept submission. Orlando lives twenty minutes from.

934
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 3: There, and yeah, we got you, Orlando. Yeah, I'll be

935
00:50:44,039 --> 00:50:46,639
hiring people to take it.

936
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,519
Speaker 4: Why don't you apply, Orlando?

937
00:50:48,639 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 3: Come on? Yeah, it's very overqualified, but yeah, I mean

938
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,039
we're I'm looking for good people in in Texas and

939
00:50:59,039 --> 00:51:01,199
Florida who can take really good.

940
00:51:01,079 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 4: Care of collectors.

941
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,119
Speaker 3: So if you're interested, collectors dot com slash careers.

942
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 4: My shameless plug of the day.

943
00:51:07,079 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 1: Brody, what are you breaking? What are you going to?

944
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,280
Are you done with baseball yourself for the season? Where

945
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does it stand?

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Speaker 2: Finish with high school ball? Starting travel ball next week?

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But it's the summer, so I don't got to worry

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about school.

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Speaker 3: So wh wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

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wait Brody, my son plays baseball too. He's in the

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travel ball team. You're I thought when you get to

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high school, like that's all you did? You still play

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travel ball?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of different like the way it works,

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but yeah.

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Speaker 3: Just never ends every one of my Saturdays and Sundays.

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Speaker 1: Well, to be fair, when I played, I didn't play

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for my high school. I only played for the Travels

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because it got ridiculous. It's non stop. Yeah, I wasn't

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going and I wasn't missing a scholarship. I'm sorry, Bertie.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, Chris, you could call my mo or dad

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anytime and have a conversation about their people baseball games

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because they understand it, and I hear about Alley mom.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys. Well, I appreciated the three of us

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seem to have a regular monthly meeting, so you know,

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I'm sure we'll be getting together soon, Philly, Joe, I'm

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trying to get these last couple of comments in here.

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Thank you, Orlando, make sure you apply uh. Good luck

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to you guys coming up. Chris, keep dodging those darts, buddy,

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you're doing a good job.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate it all right.

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Speaker 1: To everybody else, thank you, And as soon as I

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find the right buttons, we're out of here. Have a

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good one. Take care.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, awesome, Thanks, Thanks Brody,