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Speaker 2: We got the privilege of talking with Lori tonight. She's
Speaker 2: a listener from the Blue Ridge Mountain area of western Virginia. Laurie,
Speaker 2: I'm so glad to have you on the show tonight.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go ahead and give it right over
Speaker 2: to you so you can start sharing, because it sounds
Speaker 2: like you've got a lot to share.
Speaker 3: Thanks, Jam, I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: All right. Well, first thing I just I want you
Speaker 4: to know is I'm disabled I've got a neck injury,
Speaker 4: so I'm kind of you know, I can't do much
Speaker 4: and stuff. And my parents are elderly, so I moved
Speaker 4: in at their house to try to help them because
Speaker 4: I'm around all day. And unfortunately, my dad just passed
Speaker 4: about two months ago. But that being said, I have
Speaker 4: a large family, and they have four older sisters, and
Speaker 4: we all live within three miles of my parents, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, except one she lives in the
Speaker 4: different part of the state. But so about two years ago,
Speaker 4: and it was this time of year, I can tell you,
Speaker 4: I went to let her dog out.
Speaker 3: At her house.
Speaker 4: Now, she's a realtor in me. She has a lot
Speaker 4: of rental properties and stuff. But this house she bought
Speaker 4: is a mile from her main home. But it's a farm,
Speaker 4: fifty one acre farm, and she we grew up on
Speaker 4: a dairy farm, and her being the oldest and stuff.
Speaker 4: She bought horses for all of our children to come,
Speaker 4: a place for all of us to come and have.
Speaker 3: Fun with our kids and grandkids and stuff.
Speaker 4: You know. But anyway, her dog was over there and
Speaker 4: she had to work and show a house or whatever,
Speaker 4: and she wanted me to let him out, because you know,
Speaker 4: he had to go to the bathroom. So me, I was,
Speaker 4: I was like, that's cool, I'll go over there and
Speaker 4: let Cooper out. You know. Well, I have my own dog,
Speaker 4: and he's as fierce as a pitbull, but he's a
Speaker 4: little palm cheese what to call them, palmering and so
Speaker 4: wavos and they bark at everything. I swear, you can't,
Speaker 4: you can't. A leaf can't move outside, and he's on it,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And me being a sarcastic,
Speaker 4: delicious person that I am, I'm always like, you took
Speaker 4: the old you took dog egging him on. So because
Speaker 4: I don't care, I wanted to let me know, you
Speaker 4: know anyway, So I had Louie, that's my dog, and
Speaker 4: I went over there to my sister's farm, and I
Speaker 4: called one of my friends on a messenger, the Facebook messenger,
Speaker 4: and had the video chat up showing her the little farm,
Speaker 4: little farmhouse. My sister had just bought and stuff and
Speaker 4: he had fenced in a bunch of acres I don't know,
Speaker 4: probably about thirty acres and had like four different pastors
Speaker 4: and built they were building this. They had just finished
Speaker 4: this big, huge barn for the horses. And stuff, and
Speaker 4: so I called the horses up to the fence and stuff,
Speaker 4: and I had bought a piece of apple or something
Speaker 4: with me and had literally on the leash, and I
Speaker 4: was talking to my friend on the fan. I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna say her name because I didn't answered permission you
Speaker 4: had to use the name or anything. A messenger. I
Speaker 4: had it up in the you know how you have
Speaker 4: it up look talking to them in there. It's up
Speaker 4: above your head. And I was turning at the phone
Speaker 4: around showing her the farm and the horses, the two
Speaker 4: rescue horses my sister had just got and she looks
Speaker 4: back and it's like, what's that? What's that behind you?
Speaker 4: What's that black thing back there? And so I looked
Speaker 4: through the camera and I see something black back there.
Speaker 4: And of course the first thing you think is bear
Speaker 4: out here, because we got bears and stuff and so,
Speaker 4: but I'm not worried about unless it's the soul with
Speaker 4: the babies, you know, I'm not worried about no barrass
Speaker 4: because I've seen them before and hide them around the
Speaker 4: house and everything, you know, and just mainly they usually
Speaker 4: just went off. So I kind of turned.
Speaker 3: Around and I just I just lost it.
Speaker 4: I lost it.
Speaker 3: Man, I just my whole shell on my egg cracked.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm screaming. It was crazy.
Speaker 3: This thing was standing there and in broad daylight.
Speaker 4: On the other side it's brandy Bourne taller than the
Speaker 4: gut or on it, and the gutter is.
Speaker 3: Seven foot tall, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I knew it was just looking at me. And all
Speaker 4: I could do was start screaming at it. Get out
Speaker 4: of here, you go away. And I was like, this
Speaker 4: is our home and this baby's hair, and they're not
Speaker 4: gonna mess with none of us.
Speaker 3: I'll kill you, you know. And and I.
Speaker 4: Was like constantly just like running walking fast as fast
Speaker 4: as I could run walk. I'm just going it. Can't
Speaker 4: run see the door to get in the house because
Speaker 4: it was I just this thing.
Speaker 3: Was just huge. It was it was It was skinny,
Speaker 3: but it was huge.
Speaker 4: That's it was. I don't even know how to tell
Speaker 4: you what I what I can tell you about how
Speaker 4: big it was, the frightening and in the sense of
Speaker 4: doom that I felt that it could it was. It
Speaker 4: was not good. This thing was evil, is what I
Speaker 4: felt from it. And I was like, and I'm I
Speaker 4: grew up on you know, and I spent my teenage
Speaker 4: year and stuff in the city and workmen and stuff,
Speaker 4: but I lived in the royal part. I had the
Speaker 4: best best of both worlds. So I'm street smart, country smart,
Speaker 4: and I make your ass. You know, I'm screaming and
Speaker 4: I will if it comes down to it. I don't
Speaker 4: care if I am disabled. I'm you're gonna know I
Speaker 4: was there, you know, especially if you're gonna miss my babies.
Speaker 3: But anyway, I just and it felt like I couldn't
Speaker 3: look at it. I just didn't want to meet.
Speaker 4: Eye contact, so I kept it in my porophial vision
Speaker 4: and a guy in the house, and I was, I was,
Speaker 4: I was just so and my friend Stephanie was still
Speaker 4: on the phone, and I was like, did you see that.
Speaker 4: She's like, I couldn't make out what it was, and
Speaker 4: you know, and and I was told her, you know, I.
Speaker 3: Told her what it was. So that was a freaking
Speaker 3: big butt.
Speaker 4: In other terms and being nice, but I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: I was like, you want to understand how big it was?
Speaker 3: And it just really made me feel.
Speaker 4: So small and so helpless, and so that thing could
Speaker 4: have killed me in two seconds and it wasn't. But
Speaker 4: it was like two hundred feet from me. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's like I just stood there like like I must
Speaker 4: in it, and like you could believe it.
Speaker 3: Saw me, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: But anyway, I got in the house and I stayed
Speaker 4: in there because I was I didn't want to go
Speaker 4: to my jeep because that thing was outside. Then I
Speaker 4: was thinking the other animals are out there, and so
Speaker 4: I stayed there and probably was not a minute just
Speaker 4: freaking out. I don't even remember what I was saying
Speaker 4: to I don't remember that conversation. I don't remember talking,
Speaker 4: you know, just my it blew my mind. And so
Speaker 4: it got it got to the point where the dog
Speaker 4: had to go bad and I kept looking for it
Speaker 4: and it had gone run off to the left or
Speaker 4: something is what stuff and he had said or whatever.
Speaker 4: But I kind of was like, yeah, well you don't know,
Speaker 4: you ain't here. You know, I don't keep him checking out.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to just go out there. As you said,
Speaker 4: it run off, And you know, I just was felt safe,
Speaker 4: safer in the house, even though I felt like it
Speaker 4: could just take its turn, you know, rip the heart
Speaker 4: this farmhouse old. You know, here in Virginia, you've got
Speaker 4: a lot of these old houses, the old two story
Speaker 4: houses and stuff that's old. And you know, I just
Speaker 4: felt like I could just punch that durn house right
Speaker 4: on over and it would clad me in or peel
Speaker 4: back my durned car like a can of startines and
Speaker 4: get you know, I won't no stopping this thing. As
Speaker 4: big as it was, the durned chest on that thing,
Speaker 4: I know it was bigger than four foot and I'm
Speaker 4: not exaggerating. I mean that it probably was bigger than that,
Speaker 4: but it was. It was. It was like a but
Speaker 4: it was skinny looking, but it was muscular, but it
Speaker 4: was a it won't fact. I just I don't know
Speaker 4: how to explain it on that anyway, I got off
Speaker 4: the plane with her and I called my like I said,
Speaker 4: I got four sisters. I'm the baby. And I called
Speaker 4: my sister that's the second youngest to me and I
Speaker 4: and I told her I had to tell I had
Speaker 4: to talk to somebody. Couldn't deal with this quiet by myself.
Speaker 4: I mean I just couldn't. I didn't want to be
Speaker 4: alone with my thoughts. I thought I had to lost
Speaker 4: my mind. I thought that they would put me in
Speaker 4: a straight jacket or something, or lock my heads up
Speaker 4: because I had I started doubting, you know what it is.
Speaker 4: You know, I just maybe I didn't see it, you know,
Speaker 4: maybe I was just you know, I don't know, I
Speaker 4: just it just mine screwed me. So I called her
Speaker 4: and then see around there they were. I had been
Speaker 4: building up on the pastures and stuff, and they were
Speaker 4: building a pond. They built the pond and then down
Speaker 4: at the bottom there's a creek that runs through it.
Speaker 4: And I should say this is on the biggest lake
Speaker 4: that has a nuclear power plant on it, and said, lake,
Speaker 4: you know it was, is right there at her house,
Speaker 4: you know, not even three city blocks. You could walk
Speaker 4: to the one of the guts of the lake. You know,
Speaker 4: it's right there. And so there the creek, the fees
Speaker 4: of the lake runs through their property, and the spring
Speaker 4: I think starts up behind them. But anyway, they're making
Speaker 4: a bigger pawn down in another pasture for the horses
Speaker 4: and stuff. So there's been contractors there with, you know,
Speaker 4: doing stuff. So it's not surprising to see people working
Speaker 4: around there.
Speaker 3: And I saw it as somebody.
Speaker 4: I thought it was this big dude coming up the
Speaker 4: road beside the fence of the pasture, on the other
Speaker 4: side of the bard walking up the road, because it
Speaker 4: looked like a big fat dude with a white shirt
Speaker 4: on with you know what I mean, that's that's what
Speaker 4: it looked like. But he won't so close, Like I
Speaker 4: couldn't even see. I didn't see the features of its face,
Speaker 4: either one of them. I just could just see that.
Speaker 4: I couldn't look at him. I wouldn't look I just
Speaker 4: couldn't look at him. I couldn't I look down, but
Speaker 4: I could keep him in my peripheral. But when that
Speaker 4: one was walking up, like I said, I thought it
Speaker 4: was a big dude. And I was telling my sister.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, he's coming up that
Speaker 4: way where that thing was. I said, what should I do?
Speaker 4: You know, I want to tell him that that I
Speaker 4: just saw that thing there and to be careful, you know.
Speaker 3: And my sister's like, well, drive over there.
Speaker 4: And I was like, I was just I was so
Speaker 4: shaking up. I was shaking so bad. And I'm literally
Speaker 4: my legs and everything. I would shake my whole body.
Speaker 4: And and I had I got Cooper before I got
Speaker 4: him done, and I threw back in the house, and
Speaker 4: I threw Louis up in the image and I was like,
Speaker 4: all right, well, I think I'll go. I gotta tell him,
Speaker 4: you know, I just I was worried about where he
Speaker 4: was walking at and just the closer this that person
Speaker 4: as I thought, God, the more I realized how big
Speaker 4: it was. It was. It was the fence didn't even
Speaker 4: come up to its waist and this spence I had,
Speaker 4: I can put it comes up to my shoulders. You know.
Speaker 3: It's a pasture fence, and it's a.
Speaker 4: It's a cattle fence like with wood, but it's a
Speaker 4: it's the taller ones because of the horses. And I
Speaker 4: was like, I can't believe it. I think that's another one.
Speaker 4: And and it was my sister's like, go avery to
Speaker 4: drive over there, and I was like, screw you. You know,
Speaker 4: you crazy, I'm not doing that. Cry you want to
Speaker 4: do that, You come up here and say wait for it,
Speaker 4: but I'm getting out of here.
Speaker 3: And I and.
Speaker 4: I back to deep up and I and I sped.
Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, Richard.
Speaker 4: Cuddy would have been proud of me, because I hauled
Speaker 4: ass down that gravel road and got on the heart
Speaker 4: surface and it's like I lost time. I lost I
Speaker 4: went up the road to the there's this grocery store.
Speaker 4: It's like eight miles up eight to ten miles up
Speaker 4: the road. And I don't even know why I went there,
Speaker 4: as far as why I ended up there, because that
Speaker 4: was that's like going away from going home, and I
Speaker 4: kind of just I was in this in aparting lot,
Speaker 4: in the last parking spot, in the last of the road,
Speaker 4: in front of the grocery store, and I couldn't get
Speaker 4: out in my car because it was all of a
Speaker 4: sudden it was getting dark and I had this was
Speaker 4: at lunch time that this stuff happened, and I couldn't
Speaker 4: get out of my car.
Speaker 3: I was stared too dat I couldn't.
Speaker 4: I had called a couple of my friends and they
Speaker 4: were they they told me that they couldn't console me
Speaker 4: because I was so but I don't remember talking to them.
Speaker 4: And I had sat there, I don't god knows how long,
Speaker 4: and it was getting dark and my gas was running out,
Speaker 4: and I was called. I had called two people because
Speaker 4: I was scared to get out of the car and
Speaker 4: put gas in my car. Because out here, you know,
Speaker 4: they got the little wool uh stores and stuff. You
Speaker 4: ain't got a big store where people are going to
Speaker 4: be you know, a bunch of people around, and so
Speaker 4: I ended up. I got I used my triple A
Speaker 4: and got the roadside of the service, come and give
Speaker 4: me gas. Now. I went back home, you know, and
Speaker 4: when I got here, I just I couldn't. I just
Speaker 4: couldn't think. After that, I just felt like I was
Speaker 4: losing my mind. Yeah, I mean, it's been crazy. That's
Speaker 4: the first one that I knew.
Speaker 3: For sure what I was seeing.
Speaker 4: You know, that's the first.
Speaker 1: Do you mind if we talk about that for a
Speaker 1: little bit.
Speaker 3: That's fine.
Speaker 4: Goodness, I'll tell you.
Speaker 2: That's that is so so wild. The first creature that
Speaker 2: you saw, were you able to look you see its
Speaker 2: face at all?
Speaker 4: No, I couldn't. I couldn't. I couldn't see its face
Speaker 4: because it was it was lunchtime, and it was so sunny.
Speaker 4: It was this time year, two years ago, and it
Speaker 4: was the sun was was so bright, and and I
Speaker 4: had the camera on and when I turned that way,
Speaker 4: it frightened me so bad. GM. I just I just
Speaker 4: I did not make I meant so I did not
Speaker 4: make eye contact with it, but I kept it in
Speaker 4: my I could see it, but I looked down, you know,
Speaker 4: I was I was screaming at it so bad. I mean,
Speaker 4: I cussed this thing from Lord knows, from Timbuktu.
Speaker 3: I mean I cussed them, and I screamed at it.
Speaker 4: And I mean, I'm a mama, a sister, a grandma,
Speaker 4: you know, a cousin, a daughter, and I'm fierce about
Speaker 4: my family, and my family means big for.
Speaker 1: The society will be right back after these messages.
Speaker 4: And and you know, you mess with me, you mess
Speaker 4: with my whole family. And that's just how it is.
Speaker 4: And this was my sister's house for our whole family
Speaker 4: to have, like our reunions and our meeting places, and
Speaker 4: if somebody came in from.
Speaker 3: Out of town, they stayed, they stayed there.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm screaming and and my you know, I
Speaker 4: felt I just it's something just it was a feeling
Speaker 4: that would not let me look at and I just couldn't.
Speaker 3: I could not.
Speaker 4: I would the fierce this of me not doing it
Speaker 4: was so much that that I kind of I wanted
Speaker 4: to put my hand up to block it, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, bock the sight of it. But it didn't.
Speaker 4: I kind of I was trying to make my way
Speaker 4: to the house and my dog What was crazy is
Speaker 4: he's a chawawah mix, like I said.
Speaker 3: And they barked everything.
Speaker 4: I mean, you can't even the pine tree a pine
Speaker 4: needle on it me when he's barking, you know. And
Speaker 4: he did not react to nothing. He just kind of
Speaker 4: like held his head down and didn't do nothing, didn't
Speaker 4: bark to nothing. And it freaked me out because that's
Speaker 4: not my dog. My dog didn't he's him put the
Speaker 4: tall bulletproof and bite you on two knees. You know
Speaker 4: what I mean, It's crazy. It was just fightening. I
Speaker 4: didn't see the eye, didn't make contact. I mean, didn't
Speaker 4: you know, I didn't see its face. I could tell
Speaker 4: you the outline of it, how tall it was and
Speaker 4: it's built, but I can't tell your facial It was black,
Speaker 4: slid black.
Speaker 2: Did you notice anything about any features from looking at
Speaker 2: the outline, like maybe shape of the head or arm,
Speaker 2: anything about the arms around.
Speaker 4: The well, the the arms were they were long like
Speaker 4: they like normally you hear people say, because they were long.
Speaker 4: But the head it just looked round to me, I mean,
Speaker 4: because it was facing me.
Speaker 3: It was no kind of you know, side profile, none.
Speaker 4: Because like I said, it looked like I surprised it
Speaker 4: or something, or it walked up and saw me and
Speaker 4: was like, you know, that's the kind of feeling that
Speaker 4: at first I got, like I like it walked up
Speaker 4: on me and didn't realize I was there, you know.
Speaker 4: And but like I said, as soon as I I
Speaker 4: saw it, I just couldn't.
Speaker 3: Something was like, don't look at look at it.
Speaker 4: Don't look at it. You know. I just felt that feeling,
Speaker 4: so I didn't. And the fear and the then the
Speaker 4: fight was just real. I was so scared. And I'm
Speaker 4: not a scared person. I'm an outside person. I'm usually
Speaker 4: outside all the time. I mean I used to go,
Speaker 4: you know, in the woods all the time and outside
Speaker 4: and built Brunswick stews, having fires in the you know,
Speaker 4: and all that and and flower beds and gardens. And
Speaker 4: I can't do that now, you know, I don't do it.
Speaker 4: I just it's just I can't tell you what it
Speaker 4: looked like. As far as the spacious features its head,
Speaker 4: as far as I can remember, was not. I didn't
Speaker 4: see any kind of cone, safe or nothing. I didn't
Speaker 4: pay that much of attention. I don't want to get
Speaker 4: out of its way. I wouldn't get away from it.
Speaker 4: I didn't, you know, I'm tempted to have myself hypnotized
Speaker 4: so I could see what it looked like, you.
Speaker 1: Know, right, So what were.
Speaker 2: What were the details that you noticed then that made
Speaker 2: you think that this could be a big foot and
Speaker 2: not something else like a dog man?
Speaker 4: Well? I didn't.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't never really know how to tell you that
Speaker 4: what what a dog man? But it didn't have ear
Speaker 4: setting up on his head. I mean, there was no
Speaker 4: like you here to them saying that they got dog
Speaker 4: heads or whatever. Just didn't look like it had a
Speaker 4: dog head. I mean it didn't. It just would look round,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: I know that that makes perfect sense.
Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, the I couldn't stare at it.
Speaker 4: I just I didn't want to meet me. I didn't
Speaker 4: want to look in his eyes. And I mean, my
Speaker 4: long hair just does.
Speaker 3: Cover my red neck. I'm telling you.
Speaker 4: That right now. And I would look the buddy in
Speaker 4: the eye in a minute and and and stand.
Speaker 3: For my truth because that's how I was raised.
Speaker 4: Sure, you know, and I'm not going to be rude
Speaker 4: or anything or start anything with anybody, but I'm not scared.
Speaker 3: But I was scared of this thing.
Speaker 4: And I mean just it came over me and and
Speaker 4: I'm shaking now. I can't even I can't even tell you.
Speaker 3: I have never known.
Speaker 4: Terror in my life or flight the true meaning of
Speaker 4: it until that day.
Speaker 3: I had never I mean, it was horrororfic. It scared me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like I said before in my email stuff,
Speaker 4: It's made me scared of the dark, everything in the
Speaker 4: dark and everything.
Speaker 3: I can't I can't even go outside if it starts
Speaker 3: getting dark. I'm inside.
Speaker 4: I'm locking in doors and shutting the windows. Don't you
Speaker 4: come knocking around my house because I'm show up the
Speaker 4: gun so far up somewhere and you're gonna die, you know.
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm serious to see these things. And the
Speaker 3: feeling I got off.
Speaker 4: Of it was so freaking evil. I mean, I didn't
Speaker 4: feel like this was no Harry and Henderson cuddly little
Speaker 4: knock give you some wood, knock, you know, knock, knock, hey, hey,
Speaker 4: you know what's up? Though? This thing made me feel
Speaker 4: like it like I'm gonna hurt you, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, Like I could just gush you and and
Speaker 4: you know, but it didn't. And that's what I'm cleaning too,
Speaker 4: so it could, but it did.
Speaker 1: Was it making any sound at all that you heard?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: Completely, Yeah, just stand there. And that's the weird thing too.
Speaker 4: But see the wind was blowing and we're and where
Speaker 4: we live in western Virginia, and that I'm not right
Speaker 4: up on the on the mountains, but I'm more than
Speaker 4: the foothills. You can walking in these woods. You'll fall
Speaker 4: a ravine in a minute and not paying intention to
Speaker 4: where you're going or coal mine or will you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. You have to pay attention where you're at.
Speaker 4: And the wind whips through here, you know sometimes especially
Speaker 4: this time.
Speaker 3: Of year it's march, come in like a line out
Speaker 3: like a layb you know.
Speaker 4: But I mean that, you know, and when it does
Speaker 4: blow and stuff being that we got you know, you
Speaker 4: still have. I didn't hear nothing, just the wind. I
Speaker 4: couldn't hear any noise. I didn't, you know. That's why
Speaker 4: I didn't hear it come up on me or nothing,
Speaker 4: you know. And I'm not street, but I've been hunting.
Speaker 4: I've run the dogs and everything. I mean, I don't
Speaker 4: know how to do anything you want to do to
Speaker 4: survive out of the woods.
Speaker 3: That's how I was raised.
Speaker 4: You know, and and you know, I didn't hear nothing,
Speaker 4: and it's it's.
Speaker 3: Just it has freaked me out. I don't know, I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 4: I didn't That's what spoiled for me too. I couldn't
Speaker 4: see its face, you know, I couldn't get a picture
Speaker 4: of its face. But the height that from it not,
Speaker 4: you know, as big as it was, I still got
Speaker 4: the impression it was like a teenager, like like a
Speaker 4: younger one. It was. It was lean, but it was thick,
Speaker 4: but it was leaner than what you would imagine the
Speaker 4: proportion of it, the height of it, you know, and
Speaker 4: the width of it. You would think that it would
Speaker 4: have it wouldn't look lanky because but it looked lanky,
Speaker 4: but it won't want to stay in lanky doesn't even
Speaker 4: it won't lanky. But it was lanky.
Speaker 3: I mean, these things are a huge you know.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely. And it sounds like you're not the only
Speaker 1: person that has seen them in that area.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I just noticed on that they got
Speaker 4: them apps for the neighborhoods and stuff just got down
Speaker 4: the road. Had two kids, two kids that have seen
Speaker 4: his two kids have seen them, and I and I
Speaker 4: told her, I answered them on there, and I told him,
Speaker 4: I said, y'all may think that I've cracked my you know,
Speaker 4: my shelf, this egg is cracked or whatever, but it's hard,
Speaker 4: bulled and strong enough to admit that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they really don't need to know. Because that's the
Speaker 3: first thing that comes.
Speaker 4: To my mind. Is all my family, all these my
Speaker 4: boys and my family, my son. They all go honting,
Speaker 4: you know, they go fishing. You know, they are construction
Speaker 4: and you know they are out there in the woods.
Speaker 4: They're all forever. We're all forever doing stuff outside, you know,
Speaker 4: throwing horses, you know, having a bonfire.
Speaker 3: Cooking Brunswick stew and you know, over each other's house.
Speaker 4: My family is very social with each other, and it's
Speaker 4: it's just it frightens me, you know. But that being said,
Speaker 4: I haven't told everybody in my family. Sure I'm slowly,
Speaker 4: but surely. My sister that owns the arm you know,
Speaker 4: she a week later, well before I saw them.
Speaker 3: Something Stepborn's brand new and.
Speaker 4: It has the metal roofing, but it has the hardwood,
Speaker 4: the beams and everything in it. Right, the main beam
Speaker 4: that runs down the center of that barn, something practic
Speaker 4: pushed it up and my sister. They couldn't figure out
Speaker 4: what did it. And she was like, I was thinking
Speaker 4: maybe the horse could do it, but said, they can't
Speaker 4: reach that high. Something pushed in the center of that beam.
Speaker 4: That beam is you can't. You can just about wrap
Speaker 4: your arms around. But that's how big it is. Big old.
Speaker 3: I think it's a hickory tree that they have as
Speaker 3: the beams.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. And that's in it's hardwood.
Speaker 4: And to push that thing up in the middle of it,
Speaker 4: and the way it's damaged that barn, that's crazy. That's
Speaker 4: no horse. They ain't no horse gonna do that, you know.
Speaker 4: And then she saw the two She said, it was
Speaker 4: two red lights in her in her passion, and they
Speaker 4: have the ATVs that she can ride in, and they've
Speaker 4: made roads all around the pastures. They they could ride
Speaker 4: the fences right. Well, she rode to go see what
Speaker 4: it was and it left whatever, the lights went on whatever.
Speaker 4: She couldn't tell what it was. And she told her
Speaker 4: husband and he said it must have been somebody up
Speaker 4: there with some kind of lights looking around. I mean,
Speaker 4: come on, man, red, I don't think so, you know,
Speaker 4: it ain't gonna Why woady walk around like that they
Speaker 4: want to see something and do something, and walk around the.
Speaker 3: Red light in the middle of a pasture. You know
Speaker 3: you're going to be seen anyway.
Speaker 4: He's rained. You know, why would you do that If
Speaker 4: you're in the middle of a pastor and you're using
Speaker 4: a red light. I mean, it doesn't matter what kind
Speaker 4: of color it is, that he's still going to be seen.
Speaker 4: So why would they specifically have two red lights up there?
Speaker 4: It doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 3: And then she's heard.
Speaker 4: Then she said that the coyotes and stuff. We have
Speaker 4: a bad problem with them. Coyotes and panthers. We have
Speaker 4: panthers here in the mountain, lions too, and bobcats and
Speaker 4: all that. She said that that stuff's been going off
Speaker 4: around her house really bad after I saw them, and
Speaker 4: it just freaks me out. And I still haven't told
Speaker 4: her because she's not gonna believe me. She's the oldest.
Speaker 4: I'm the youngest, you know what I mean. She's like,
Speaker 4: she's more like a parent to me in some ways.
Speaker 4: You know, she's not gonna she's not gonna believe me.
Speaker 2: So you haven't told the sister that actually owns the
Speaker 2: farm what happened.
Speaker 4: I've told two of this my other sisters. And I
Speaker 4: know that my other sister told her to be a
Speaker 4: be aware of bears because she says, that's what I saw,
Speaker 4: you know. She's like, he's all there. And I'm like
Speaker 4: that one old hair. I'm telling you I've had I
Speaker 4: lived off dirt road and I had BlackBerry bushes all
Speaker 4: down my DRM road. And I lived in the middle
Speaker 4: of the dirt road, and my other sister lived at
Speaker 4: one of my other sisters lived at the end, and
Speaker 4: my house was to the hard surface road.
Speaker 3: It was probably about half mile, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And the whole whole driveway was stilled with BlackBerry bushes
Speaker 4: that you could ride through like a maze and stuff.
Speaker 4: And we had these two male bears will come every year,
Speaker 4: and Asu with two cubs would come around every year.
Speaker 4: And my sister, my Brandma, had hunting cams all around
Speaker 4: our properties.
Speaker 3: Because mine hooked down to theirs, and.
Speaker 4: I'd let them hook hunt on my five acres connected
Speaker 4: to theirs, you know. And I mean, I've been around bears.
Speaker 4: I know how to I'm not frightened of them. I
Speaker 4: don't want to mess with now, especially in sou but
Speaker 4: I mean, I knew what a bear loo was like,
Speaker 4: you know, and this thing was was not a bear.
Speaker 4: You know, it won't a bear. I can tell you
Speaker 4: the height of that thing and the way, just just
Speaker 4: as bondis. It was not a bear. You know, It's
Speaker 4: just And I got insulted, you know, I wrote do it.
Speaker 4: I got pissed off because I mean, why would I lie?
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I'm in my fifties, and I mean,
Speaker 4: I hate to say that.
Speaker 3: Still, I'm still cute.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you the trade, but I mean, why.
Speaker 3: Would I lie? Why would I lie? You know, I
Speaker 3: don't have no reason to lie these people. I was like,
Speaker 3: you call you more or less?
Speaker 4: Call me a liar.
Speaker 3: And she's like, don't get don't get.
Speaker 4: Mad, you know. I was like, no, don't get stupid.
Speaker 4: You know you my.
Speaker 3: Sister, You're gonna sit there and not believe me.
Speaker 4: You know, don't be stupid.
Speaker 3: I just I'm so blunt, but you know, I don't.
Speaker 3: That's the best way to me to be in my world.
Speaker 3: I don't play.
Speaker 4: I don't play the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't know drama.
Speaker 4: I don't got time. I'll walk away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to go well, I want to go
Speaker 2: back for a minute to how you were talking about
Speaker 2: it was like one of those apps where there are
Speaker 2: the neighbors on it. Can you remember exactly what it
Speaker 2: was that that gentleman said, what was happening on his property?
Speaker 4: Well, it just happened about a couple of months ago,
Speaker 4: about two months ago, it said, I know that this.
Speaker 3: He posted like something like I.
Speaker 4: Know that that this topic is controversial and probably going
Speaker 4: to get a lot of heckling and ret you know,
Speaker 4: redicule and stuff. And he said, but has anybody noticed
Speaker 4: any type of sasquatch beings around this area? My two children,
Speaker 4: which are seven and nine, have seen these things twice.
Speaker 4: And that's what worries me, you know, and especially when
Speaker 4: the kids. You know, you know, you're not gonna do that,
Speaker 4: not if I'm around. I don't care who you are.
Speaker 4: You treat that kid while and you will hear something
Speaker 4: from me, you know.
Speaker 2: I got track that guy Big for Society will be
Speaker 2: right back after these messages.
Speaker 4: And question, yeah, it's on the next door or something.
Speaker 4: Is what that the name of the act is anyway? Yeah,
Speaker 4: and he knew what's funny the where that farm is right,
Speaker 4: my son's prob My son was written a house before
Speaker 4: he just moved into a house and they bought a house,
Speaker 4: but they were renting a house and his the back
Speaker 4: of my sister's property is in sight from where he
Speaker 4: was living, so he won't live in less than as
Speaker 4: the crow flys a mile from that house, right, And
Speaker 4: I went and had to he got they got married,
Speaker 4: and this was two years ago, and I went to
Speaker 4: stay with my grandpuppies. They had a staff sire pit
Speaker 4: bulls down there, blue one and a big white grand
Speaker 4: parentees and they were there. They stay in the house
Speaker 4: or they're you know, you take them outside and stuff.
Speaker 4: But I went and stayed with the week down there
Speaker 4: to take care of the dogs. And I was.
Speaker 3: Just I don't know, you even know how to tell you.
Speaker 4: I was there and the first night nothing happened, you know,
Speaker 4: but I was nervous. I can get this, I get
Speaker 4: this feeling. I can tell when they're around. Now I
Speaker 4: can tell. And it's bad. It's it's not a good feeling.
Speaker 4: It's not that I don't know how to even tell
Speaker 4: you why.
Speaker 3: What I've done, what I drank.
Speaker 4: Maybe it got too close to the lake water and
Speaker 4: I'm glowing or something, you know, I have no idea,
Speaker 4: but it's, you know, I don't know why, but I
Speaker 4: get a feeling and I was there, and the second
Speaker 4: night I was there. I've been and also I've been
Speaker 4: waking up and I still do it at three o'clock
Speaker 4: every night, three o'clock every night since this has happened,
Speaker 4: it's been two years now. I don't get a full
Speaker 4: night's sleep for nothing. And it's it's I just don't
Speaker 4: know why. I you know, I would think I would
Speaker 4: wake up at five, because they just have to wake
Speaker 4: up at five in the.
Speaker 3: Morning, go to work.
Speaker 4: Before I came disabled, and you know, you get in
Speaker 4: the routine and you do it just automatically.
Speaker 3: But this, this is at three o'clock.
Speaker 4: I can look at the clock every night three o'clock
Speaker 4: and I'm up. It's crazy. But I was having my
Speaker 4: book my son's house, and at three o'clock in the.
Speaker 3: Morning, some hit the backside of his house so hard.
Speaker 4: I swear I thought that a car or something hit
Speaker 4: hit the house. And the thing is is my son.
Speaker 3: I kind of back up a little bit.
Speaker 4: Because from from his house his rental property as the
Speaker 4: crow flies, we used to live in the house before
Speaker 4: I came disabled. I lost my home, and but it
Speaker 4: was a mile from there and on the dirt road.
Speaker 4: Like I was telling you, he and his first wife
Speaker 4: saw something run across the road in front of them
Speaker 4: when they were coming down the road, and they didn't know.
Speaker 4: He didn't tell me. He just looked at me, said, mom,
Speaker 4: I don't know what it was. And then he does
Speaker 4: want no bear and it was on all fours and
Speaker 4: so he told me, and then later he kept you know, he.
Speaker 3: He wouldn't talk about or nothing.
Speaker 4: But then he's like it had to be a bear,
Speaker 4: you know, he didn't want to say what. He didn't
Speaker 4: say what it was or money. Well, he told me that.
Speaker 4: And living in that house everything that there's been things
Speaker 4: that happened that I know now that I didn't know
Speaker 4: then was related to them. I have five acres behind him.
Speaker 4: He was a two hundred acre farm. Across the gravel
Speaker 4: road for me was five hundred. It's like, no, it's
Speaker 4: not five hundreds. It's probably about two hundred acres of woods.
Speaker 4: And then across the hard surface road at the end
Speaker 4: of my road is what they call bear is on
Speaker 4: land what it was, but it was, it's full of
Speaker 4: that's like five hundred acres. So I was in the
Speaker 4: middle of the woods.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm screaming.
Speaker 4: And we would always have bonfires, fires all the time
Speaker 4: outside in the back behind our house, and playing music
Speaker 4: out the shed and the shop and stuff and having
Speaker 4: people are because when you live in the country, so
Speaker 4: what you do. You don't you don't go to bars
Speaker 4: and go to your friend's house, you know, play bar girl,
Speaker 4: drink or whatever, just go see family. I've always had
Speaker 4: people over and I would sit out there. I'd sleep
Speaker 4: out there, sometimes fall asleep out there. And they don't hammock,
Speaker 4: don't even worry about it. Well, I was standing after
Speaker 4: he said that stuff and was telling me about it.
Speaker 4: My daughter in law had my grandbaby, and I stopped.
Speaker 4: I smoked and and so I stopped smoking in the house.
Speaker 4: And I was standing on the front ports of my
Speaker 4: house smoking cigarette. And I didn't cut the lights on
Speaker 4: on And you know, because out here the stars you
Speaker 4: could see even if it's you know, I mean, it
Speaker 4: gets dark, dark where you can't see a hand in
Speaker 4: front of your face. But if it's a clear night
Speaker 4: and it's you know, you can see by the moonlight. Well,
Speaker 4: it was darker with no moon, but the stars were
Speaker 4: still out, and I was smoking a cigarette on the
Speaker 4: front porch. Something it felt like it was in my face.
Speaker 3: Growled at me.
Speaker 4: And it growled this deep growl that was deeper than
Speaker 4: the Cayo growl.
Speaker 3: Because I've heard them.
Speaker 4: They've come up on all property and they're not scair.
Speaker 4: They'll they'll come at you and then it won't no bear.
Speaker 4: It was a vibrating growl, and it felt like it
Speaker 4: was in my face. It felt like it was in
Speaker 4: my face doing that, and so I just I threw
Speaker 4: the cigarette and went back in the house or putting
Speaker 4: locked the door. I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't think about that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And then it got to where I kept feeling feeling
Speaker 4: uneasy in my yard. And that's that bothered me because
Speaker 4: I was always outside, Like I said, we just were outside.
Speaker 4: People got a garden and I had flower beds and
Speaker 4: you know, cutting the grass and and you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. It was crazy, but I didn't I didn't think.
Speaker 3: About, you know, being that it could be a big
Speaker 3: futter or anything. Back then, I sticking them home.
Speaker 4: Probably bear, because them bears had been around our house,
Speaker 4: but I had we bushauled all them blackberries down because
Speaker 4: I didn't want bears coming up on my property, you know,
Speaker 4: because they will they come up and screw you up
Speaker 4: if you got out here. You don't got a trash service.
Speaker 4: You have to take your stuff to the dam and
Speaker 4: all that. And I would put my trash in the
Speaker 4: back of my I had a little ranger i'd used
Speaker 4: just for the trash, and I just we'd cut them
Speaker 4: down so it wouldn't be any opportunity to draw them
Speaker 4: closer to our property. Took all my bird feeders down
Speaker 4: because they eat the bird seed and all that. But
Speaker 4: this thing was it just it grouts and it felt
Speaker 4: like it was it was is news news to me
Speaker 4: as as that's what it felt like. But I couldn't
Speaker 4: see it. I couldn't see, you know. I probably jumped
Speaker 4: off all that what you just asked me. I've got
Speaker 4: so much in my head that I don't want to
Speaker 4: forget because I want to I want to get all
Speaker 4: these things out because it's it's so it's it's freaked
Speaker 4: me out and made me.
Speaker 3: Feel like I done lost my mind.
Speaker 4: Like I told my friend, I made a big old
Speaker 4: coat for Christmas, and I said, the one to make
Speaker 4: you wrap yourself around the.
Speaker 1: Time about you're great. You're great.
Speaker 2: I do want to ask something about so the growl
Speaker 2: that was right next to you. You said that you
Speaker 2: all you felt the growl like it affected you.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And see I was up on a it was
Speaker 4: four steps up onto my It was like a deck porch.
Speaker 4: I had a covered porch on the front and like
Speaker 4: what they call him progolas with I could have find you.
Speaker 3: It was open end poor.
Speaker 4: It was half half half covered but half with like
Speaker 4: a progla wherek and I had wisteria and stuff growing
Speaker 4: up on it. And I but it felt like it
Speaker 4: was in my face and for it, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. But I was I wasn't on it. It
Speaker 4: wasn't level to the ground. I was up you know,
Speaker 4: I don't know. Yeah, I felt like it was rating
Speaker 4: my face, don't it but it but it won't, you know,
Speaker 4: because it wasn't there. I mean, there was nothing in
Speaker 4: my face, but it was so but it felt like
Speaker 4: it was right there in my face, and it made
Speaker 4: I could feel it in my body, the growl. And
Speaker 4: I didn't realize that that has anything to do with
Speaker 4: this stuff until here, you know, two years ago, and
Speaker 4: when I started really looking into this stuff, you know,
Speaker 4: because it's freaked me out. It's really made me question
Speaker 4: my sanity. I mean, in all honesty, and that's the
Speaker 4: worst feeling. That is the worst feeling. People don't realize
Speaker 4: what this stuff does to be and you know, for
Speaker 4: them to be so funny and to crack jokes about
Speaker 4: you know, ha ha, you know Bigfoot of Hale, Well,
Speaker 4: you're the dumb ass in my world. You the dumbass.
Speaker 4: You're gonna laugh about it, You'll see. And that's what
Speaker 4: you know, Like on that app that some people were
Speaker 4: trying to be hecklers and funny, and I said, you
Speaker 4: know what, you think it's funny? I said, them poor babies,
Speaker 4: you know, I said, but you know what it seems
Speaker 4: to me just kicking off And I said, more people
Speaker 4: don't seeing them. And I said, and it's been around
Speaker 4: here and you're a hood bro. I said, You're gonna
Speaker 4: see and then I'm gonna laugh in your face, you know,
Speaker 4: And how dare you? This is a child children? You know,
Speaker 4: how dare they? You know? Just it drives me crazy.
Speaker 3: I just don't know what to.
Speaker 4: Do about it. These things are not our friends. I mean,
Speaker 4: they're not you know they ain't gonna be your body.
Speaker 4: You don't want to You want to feed them and
Speaker 4: go out there and wood knock and stuff. Well, I
Speaker 4: got I got some some lakeside property in Arizona for you.
Speaker 3: You know what you want?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: People stupid to me with that.
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, have you have you
Speaker 1: thought it all? You know?
Speaker 2: What do you consider these creatures to be? Like when
Speaker 2: you think a big foot in your mind, are you
Speaker 2: more you're thinking of the type of human or an
Speaker 2: ape or something way different than both of those things.
Speaker 4: Well, I know about the DNA testing, have the memble
Speaker 4: catching stuff, and I've read the stuff. I've read it.
Speaker 3: Because I just you know, you go tell me something
Speaker 3: that's cool.
Speaker 4: But if I've got access to read it and to
Speaker 4: see something, I'm gonna read it and get information from
Speaker 4: myself too as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna check up because I'm not you know,
Speaker 3: I'm not that.
Speaker 4: Glible and I'm not I'm not saying that people are
Speaker 4: glible or that I know means I'm not going going
Speaker 4: slinging words and nobody's going fished up and none. I'm
Speaker 4: just saying, if you can check it out, do your
Speaker 4: own digging right, and and being that I live in
Speaker 4: this first state of this great country that we live in.
Speaker 4: You know, history and the Bible belt. You know, I
Speaker 4: went to Sunday School. I've raised Presbyterian and the Baptized
Speaker 4: and all that.
Speaker 3: I know my Bible, and I can tell you this.
Speaker 4: They are. I feel that they are from the Bible.
Speaker 3: You look, there's there's.
Speaker 4: But I can't tell you what they are because there's
Speaker 4: like three stories in the Bible that this can relate to.
Speaker 4: Cain and Abel came killed Abel, God marked king and
Speaker 4: banned him to walk upon this earth and to be shunned,
Speaker 4: and all his seeds that he says, as far as
Speaker 4: his children and everything that is to him will be
Speaker 4: marked with the beast.
Speaker 3: And they say that it's.
Speaker 4: The number six sixty six, but it does says that
Speaker 4: he is he's gonna be marked where he's not going
Speaker 4: to be welcomed. I mean, people are gonna know. So
Speaker 4: there's if you and then of course the knuckle them,
Speaker 4: you know, and then there's another one, and plus it
Speaker 4: talks about the giants, you know, David and Goliath. I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, come on, people, they pick and
Speaker 4: choose what they want to choose of the Bible what
Speaker 4: to believe, Well, then why do they why do they
Speaker 4: even have it in there?
Speaker 3: Why does God have it?
Speaker 4: If you're gonna pick and choose what you want out
Speaker 4: of a fairy tale, I mean, you know, or even
Speaker 4: a true documentary, you know, or if you're just gonna
Speaker 4: pick and choose what you want, then you're not doing
Speaker 4: yourself any any favors. You know, you need to go
Speaker 4: back to school. Your MoMA didn't drop and she's ready
Speaker 4: when he was a little baby. You know, I just
Speaker 4: I don't understand, you know, why would they Why would
Speaker 4: some people not believe when it's written in the scriptures.
Speaker 1: And I don't have it with you there.
Speaker 2: You know, if it's a if it's a thing where
Speaker 2: he's you're going to believe something, you got to believe
Speaker 2: the whole thing.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't.
Speaker 2: Exactly can't just leave out the quote weird stuff because
Speaker 2: it doesn't fit your you know, clean version of the Bible.
Speaker 3: So it didn't fix your narrative.
Speaker 4: But the thing is is this is only one books
Speaker 4: to the Bible under the durned Vatican that they they
Speaker 4: picked and choose not to put in it. So you
Speaker 4: go to the Book of Knok. I mean, if you
Speaker 4: read all that and listen, you can go on YouTube.
Speaker 4: If you don't feel like reading or don't have time
Speaker 4: to read, you know somebody I'll read it to you
Speaker 4: and listen to it. It tells you.
Speaker 3: I mean, I can tell you this.
Speaker 4: I didn't believe in ghosts either or nothing like that,
Speaker 4: because you know, anything we would a school was going
Speaker 4: to scare you or nothing like that.
Speaker 3: God bless my mama.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know, baby does nothing like monsters
Speaker 4: or ghosts or not. But my mother saw my grandmother
Speaker 4: after she passed, so and I was like, Mama, it's
Speaker 4: this father son and holy ghost I mean holy spirit
Speaker 4: or holy goat. We say holy ghost. I mean, come on,
Speaker 4: you know, I just think that things are Since this
Speaker 4: has changed me, I have been I don't want to
Speaker 4: say woke, but I have been spiritually awakened from this,
Speaker 4: and I'm going to tell you that things are not
Speaker 4: as it seems.
Speaker 3: And for people.
Speaker 4: To be hearted like sheep, shame on the people that
Speaker 4: are doing that. Shame on the other the higher beings
Speaker 4: or their stupidity to do that, because you know what,
Speaker 4: there's more of us than there are of them. Do
Speaker 4: you understand what I'm saying?
Speaker 3: And I don't think that, like I heard, I know
Speaker 3: the government knows about these things.
Speaker 4: I know they did, because if they didn't know about them,
Speaker 4: they would be looking into it being a threat on
Speaker 4: the American soil, you know what I mean here now,
Speaker 4: you know, And for them not to even be concerned
Speaker 4: with anything that means they know it, They already know it,
Speaker 4: don't need to talk to us to get that information.
Speaker 4: I mean, well, that's just the way I feel, and
Speaker 4: that you know, it's it's just really frightening to me.
Speaker 2: Well, no, I agree with you, yeah, because it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, there's this whole focus on UFO stuff right now,
Speaker 2: but it's like there's so much like Bigfoot and other
Speaker 2: cryptid stuff going on too. It's like, where's the narrative
Speaker 2: on that with the government? Big for society will be
Speaker 2: right back after these messages?
Speaker 1: You know, we all know.
Speaker 3: I can't say that for sure.
Speaker 4: I mean I'm not you know, I'm not proving to
Speaker 4: that information as far as their truth, but in a way,
Speaker 4: I mean, they already know about it. If they didn't
Speaker 4: know about it, you know, you would think that they
Speaker 4: would be some kind of you know, study or something
Speaker 4: going on, and we would know about that.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I just feel like they they're they're they're not looking
Speaker 4: into it because they are no.
Speaker 3: And like you say, the UFO thing, big.
Speaker 4: Foot's been around since just as long as the teddy
Speaker 4: we at Roosevelt are. During president that created.
Speaker 3: The national parks, why do you do that?
Speaker 4: Okay, he had one, he saw it, and then we
Speaker 4: have all these national parks, state parks and federal lands management.
Speaker 4: The land management are I mean if you look on
Speaker 4: the topical.
Speaker 3: Maps and can have all of that information, the federal,
Speaker 3: the state, the forestry and all that, they all connect.
Speaker 4: And you know what bothers me too is there's caves
Speaker 4: like crazy around here. We have little ray caverns and
Speaker 4: all that here, and we have different types of caverns
Speaker 4: and and all that stuff. There's there's you know which
Speaker 4: actually their lava tubes. I mean they really are. And
Speaker 4: the cave system from the East coast on the Appalition Mountains,
Speaker 4: on the Blue Ridge Mountains is it's vast and it
Speaker 4: runs the whole East coast. I mean, if you you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, just do the little research on your own.
Speaker 4: You know. It's it's like, I don't know, I just
Speaker 4: I get so frustrated, but just because I don't think
Speaker 4: that it's something that people should not be aware of
Speaker 4: before because of safety. I mean, we've got kids that
Speaker 4: play out time and and you know, and out here.
Speaker 4: That's the reason why I moved out here was to
Speaker 4: get my son away from the city because I didn't
Speaker 4: want him growing up a thug, you know.
Speaker 3: I wanted him to have good, honest, you know.
Speaker 4: Upbringing and to be not be you know, tempted by that.
Speaker 4: And when when you you know they're gonna go, he
Speaker 4: would go play in the woods and stop.
Speaker 3: And not that I would just let my kid one
Speaker 3: off in the woods, but we were surrounded by woods, you.
Speaker 4: Know, and he's hunting and stuff like that with his
Speaker 4: cousins and uncles and my granddaddy, you know. And it's
Speaker 4: just being the mama that I am and the fierce
Speaker 4: grandma that I am, I did not I want to
Speaker 4: keep our children safe, just like I want to feed us,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: I just I feel so.
Speaker 4: Adamant that these that people need to know and keep
Speaker 4: a baby safe, you know, and my baby's thirty years old.
Speaker 4: He's still my baby, and if I could go, I
Speaker 4: had to take a bullet for him. And he knows
Speaker 4: about him now, because you.
Speaker 3: Know what else happened at his house.
Speaker 4: After I left there. I well, I'll tell you why
Speaker 4: I was there, watching the dogs, right, Scott Carpenter was.
Speaker 4: I started watching the stuff really really a lot, sure,
Speaker 4: And I watched Scott Carpenter before it passed, and he
Speaker 4: was he would have had something about the four four
Speaker 4: rocks or four marbles or something. He said, they would
Speaker 4: always take three and leave one by itself. Right. Well,
Speaker 4: my son being born, and just like his mama, I
Speaker 4: was singing, mom and I raised that boy good. But
Speaker 4: he had a firepit on side, right, and he had
Speaker 4: some dogs sitting off that broke always the partial burns,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I took four rocks
Speaker 4: and spaced them out evenly and laid it upon the rock,
Speaker 4: the board, the log. And do you know I come
Speaker 4: back two days later and they did It was three
Speaker 4: and one. What does that mean? You know?
Speaker 3: They did the same thing. And I asked my son.
Speaker 4: I said, did you notice them walks I put up there?
Speaker 4: I didn't tell them we're up pulling them none. I
Speaker 4: just said, did you notice the rocks I put up there?
Speaker 4: He said, what rocks?
Speaker 3: You know, looking at me all strange.
Speaker 4: And I said, I put I put this three little
Speaker 4: rocks on their wood near fire pit. He's the nine
Speaker 4: noticed that because it was during the week, so he
Speaker 4: really didn't have time to go out and mess with
Speaker 4: no fire or nothing. You know, he hadn't been outside
Speaker 4: doing that. Well.
Speaker 3: Then I asked.
Speaker 4: Him and I told him that something hit his house.
Speaker 4: And I told him what happened at my sister's house.
Speaker 4: He goes normal. His wife's was walking their dogs out outside, right,
Speaker 4: and she.
Speaker 3: Heard laughing and she said, but it didn't sound human.
Speaker 4: It was weird.
Speaker 3: And I was like, what do you mean, like the
Speaker 3: hyena laughing like a lion king.
Speaker 4: You know, it was just trying to play with her
Speaker 4: a little bit. But I know what she was talking about, unfortunately,
Speaker 4: but I don't want to scare her, and you know,
Speaker 4: and she is, no, it was different, and I said, well,
Speaker 4: that's odd. And then my son calls me and he goes, moment,
Speaker 4: you never believe what's going on? What happened at the
Speaker 4: house last night? And I was like, well, what happened?
Speaker 4: He kuw something was trying to get in my back door,
Speaker 4: and he goes and the dogs will do nothing. Wasn't
Speaker 4: even go in in the kitchen where the back door was.
Speaker 4: They and this is a stash trying terrier, you know,
Speaker 4: the big pit bulls, the true ones from He paid
Speaker 4: twelve hundred dollars for this thing, and the blue one
Speaker 4: and he's huge. His name's Doring, and his his chest
Speaker 4: is bigger than my hand. He's a big ass dog
Speaker 4: and he's pure bread. And then the grand Pyrenees very
Speaker 4: huge too. Neither one of them would go in the kitchen,
Speaker 4: and my son said he grabbed his twelve gates and
Speaker 4: went in there and pulled the blind up on the door,
Speaker 4: and all he saw was hair. He could one of
Speaker 4: them was trying to get in his back door, but
Speaker 4: he couldn't. It's like they couldn't get their fingers.
Speaker 3: In the handle.
Speaker 4: You know how the hand they had the long handles,
Speaker 4: this long black handles with a button in the middle.
Speaker 3: That's why it's opening to his screen door is on
Speaker 3: his back of that house.
Speaker 4: He was winning and it's like, he said, it kept
Speaker 4: hitting that button, but it's like it couldn't get its
Speaker 4: hand in the handle. To pull the door open. It
Speaker 4: could it could hit the button to open it, and
Speaker 4: he said, he goes, he goes you butter, he.
Speaker 3: Said something to like you better reach around and kiss you.
Speaker 4: Asked the biker's getting ready to eat some lid, you know,
Speaker 4: and he said he cocked and was gonna blow it
Speaker 4: through the door, and it jumped off at the back
Speaker 4: of his the ports and ran off.
Speaker 3: He said, but he couldn't even see his head. All
Speaker 3: I could see was its chest.
Speaker 1: That's wild, isn't that light? Goodness?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I mean I don't know if if and
Speaker 4: then then that ain't even it. That's not even nothing.
Speaker 4: I mean I've got more you would not believe. Okay, Well,
Speaker 4: like I said, it's made me scared dark, right. I
Speaker 4: went and saw one of my friends up the road.
Speaker 4: She probably lives four miles from me.
Speaker 3: I here, we judge it by miles because we're woll
Speaker 3: We just we don't have straight you.
Speaker 4: Know, the roads by by the road number, you know,
Speaker 4: and landmarks. Well, I was up in her house a
Speaker 4: little bit and it was getting dark. You know. She's
Speaker 4: used to me just hanging out till whenever, doing our
Speaker 4: whatever we do, right and leaving at all odd hours
Speaker 4: in the morning or coming home early or whatever. She
Speaker 4: never I mean never leaving like I wanted to leave
Speaker 4: that day. So she was pressuring me to stay and
Speaker 4: I was like, no, it's getting dark. I'm going home.
Speaker 4: And I told her what happened, you know, And I'm
Speaker 4: not saying she believes me, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: She didn't judge me on She was kind with that.
Speaker 4: So but by the time I got back home, it
Speaker 4: was dark. Sometimes when went out here, dark is dark.
Speaker 4: You can't see. So I got out in my jeep
Speaker 4: and I was coming, and too, I live in a camper.
Speaker 4: I pulled a camper to my parents' house and so
Speaker 4: I can have privacy, and I smoked, and I don't
Speaker 4: I have enough respect for them. I don't smoke in
Speaker 4: their house or nothing like that, you know, and for
Speaker 4: my privacy too as well. So I was coming to
Speaker 4: the camper and this is a travel trailer. It's twenty
Speaker 4: eight foot long. And when I got out to look
Speaker 4: my vehicle, I could feel something around me and I
Speaker 4: got that. I got that eerie feeling. And so do
Speaker 4: you you stomp at something like a dog or something
Speaker 4: comes at you like, don't you do that or whenever you.
Speaker 3: Stomp at something but try to scare it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did that. I went to get away from me.
Speaker 4: You know, it stomped at it like that.
Speaker 3: It ran it.
Speaker 4: It started running and raning off, but it was it
Speaker 4: ran and I could feel the vibration of it every
Speaker 4: every footstep.
Speaker 3: When it started running off.
Speaker 4: It shook the ground. It shook the ground, It shook
Speaker 4: the ground. I mean, that's heavy.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I didn't mean to do that, but I mean,
Speaker 3: it's just it freaked me.
Speaker 4: Out so bad. I couldn't get in this camper fasting off,
Speaker 4: you know, locking the doors and all that.
Speaker 3: I've had them. I've had them lock my camper.
Speaker 4: I've yelled at.
Speaker 3: Them and they've leffed me alone.
Speaker 4: After they did that. I've had I've seen them across
Speaker 4: the street from here up in the tree. It's a
Speaker 4: cedar tree over here they've been. They have two seats
Speaker 4: in this cedar tree. They've pulled the branches so it
Speaker 4: looks like motorcycle bars like I used to have the
Speaker 4: buck horns on my bike. It looks like they they
Speaker 4: sitting there with the with the handle bars in the
Speaker 4: cedar tree and the top of the cedar tree has
Speaker 4: like a fork in it like that. It looks like
Speaker 4: a derned tridens what do they call? The thing holds
Speaker 4: all the side and holds it. Can't tried it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: at the top of the cedar tree, it has a trotten
Speaker 4: in it. And I just thought that was odd, you know,
Speaker 4: why why the seed here? But see where that is?
Speaker 4: He can you can see right into.
Speaker 3: My my camper right from there.
Speaker 4: But then I started noticing, like, my mama has three
Speaker 4: acres here and the back part of the property she
Speaker 4: has a bunch of pine trees, and well, we got
Speaker 4: hard woods here, all kinds of you know, hardwoods, gum trees, oaks,
Speaker 4: chestnuts and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: And we also have cherries and a cherry tree, apple tree,
Speaker 3: pear tree, and.
Speaker 4: Peach trees and grape vines. We have figs and we
Speaker 4: have fruits and stuff. And my parents still you know,
Speaker 4: I learned can and how to make wine and jellies,
Speaker 4: and you know, I wanted to old school, but I
Speaker 4: mean that's just the way I was raised anyway. So
Speaker 4: but we have that that stuff here that I could.
Speaker 4: I was cutting grass and I went down the because
Speaker 4: we have a power line too, that runs through the property.
Speaker 4: And I was cutting down the power line and it's
Speaker 4: coming back up near these things, and I noticed, I mean,
Speaker 4: you can tell storm damage, especially as tight as these
Speaker 4: pines and stuff are up in there. It's so thick,
Speaker 4: and you can tell because if something's gonna break or whatever,
Speaker 4: it's gonna take more than one over as tight as
Speaker 4: it is, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And the trees here they about probably about fifty years old.
Speaker 4: They know, small little trees, but it's been a it
Speaker 4: was a pasture of one time. But the trees are
Speaker 4: fifty years old, which means they probably about ten inches round,
Speaker 4: you know, I mean ten fifteen inches round, So they're
Speaker 4: not small little trees, you know, but they're but they're tight.
Speaker 4: And I started noticing stuff back there, exes and stuff,
Speaker 4: and that's after, you know, I started getting freaked out
Speaker 4: on it, right, And then I noticed there's a certain
Speaker 4: spot over here on the other side of our grape mind,
Speaker 4: and there was two spots in the in the grass.
Speaker 4: The grass was some had been standing and laying whatever
Speaker 4: there so long that it made two bare spots, right,
Speaker 4: And so I was like, I could never figure out
Speaker 4: what the bear spots were, and they were like the
Speaker 4: sizes they were like ten inches long, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, or I can't even I don't even know
Speaker 4: it's ten or whatever, but it was bigger. But there
Speaker 4: was two of them right beside by side. So I
Speaker 4: stood in that on them bere spots, and it's looking
Speaker 4: right in my mama's house. And she has big picture
Speaker 4: windows and the big like her whole kitchen is behind
Speaker 4: her sinks. There's big, huge, beautiful windows, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, and they I mean, she has lines and things,
Speaker 4: but this is the back of the house, so she
Speaker 4: has blinds, but she's they're always open to let light in,
Speaker 4: and you know.
Speaker 3: It's whole all windows back there.
Speaker 4: And then I found two more a spot where there's
Speaker 4: two more, so it looks like something's been standing in
Speaker 4: these two spots, you know, and it's done killed the
Speaker 4: grass there, and it's weird, and so I showed my
Speaker 4: nephew and my son and there's like, well, you know,
Speaker 4: you can't tell what it is, mom, because it's just
Speaker 4: killed the grass. And I was like, yeah, but why
Speaker 4: is it right here? And they're like well, and my
Speaker 4: nephew was like, well, maybe it's a cat or something
Speaker 4: lay in there and likes that spot. I said, why
Speaker 4: would they do? You know, why would then they have
Speaker 4: two spots like that? And then there's two more another
Speaker 4: thing over there like that. You know, two spots that
Speaker 4: are dead. You know the grass is killed. Why is
Speaker 4: there another spot like that? What is that?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: What's up? When I ain never seen that? And they
Speaker 3: couldn't answer me.
Speaker 4: So that's not all though.
Speaker 3: And when I.
Speaker 4: Have I have friends, girlfriends that come over and they'll
Speaker 4: stay in with me and the camper and stuff that
Speaker 4: stayed a couple of days with me or whatever. Well,
Speaker 4: my friend has been here or shouldn't saying, well, anyway,
Speaker 4: she's been here a couple of times. And I was
Speaker 4: telling her what that what is happening around here?
Speaker 3: Because you need something?
Speaker 4: You feel like you really need somebody to talk to
Speaker 4: with this crap, because it's not you're gonna drive yourself crazy,
Speaker 4: you really are, then you're.
Speaker 3: Just gonna really question your sanity. And they rocked the camper.
Speaker 4: It rocked the camper here when she was here, I
Speaker 4: have the camper's braced talked, you know, won't rolling on
Speaker 4: and it didn't walk it forward and back, but it
Speaker 4: rocked it side and side enough that it was and
Speaker 4: it's knocked her off the couch. I was asleep and
Speaker 4: I didn't pay attention. I guess I'm just I don't know.
Speaker 4: I didn't make my butt up, but it woke her
Speaker 4: up and she's got scared. And then this last time,
Speaker 4: ninety two weeks ago, there was a face in my
Speaker 4: front window. Well you've got to be nine foot tall,
Speaker 4: well eight foot tall to put your face be able
Speaker 4: to see your face on the.
Speaker 3: Front window in the camper. And then it got like, ah,
Speaker 3: like a handprint on the.
Speaker 4: On the side window of the camper that that looked
Speaker 4: like holy crap.
Speaker 3: But it was sideways and you could the only I could.
Speaker 4: Make out really good was like the middle finger and
Speaker 4: this part of the poem that you could see that
Speaker 4: was really only looking but the but the other fingers
Speaker 4: you could see where they were, but they weren't as
Speaker 4: as gross looking. You know, that stuff's happened.
Speaker 1: Big for society will be right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: And then I was going right here that it straight
Speaker 3: from me.
Speaker 4: If you like four city blocks down, there's a man
Speaker 4: that raises hogs, right then a lot of people here
Speaker 4: raise you know, meat, and and chicken, you know, the
Speaker 4: meat products for us, cause you know you I'd rather
Speaker 4: buy natural and they make a living like that, and
Speaker 4: they'd also sell you know, to love whoever. But anyway,
Speaker 4: this man had a bunch of pilets and stuff. And
Speaker 4: then right across the hearts, I was going to the store,
Speaker 4: a country store down here, and the pier line ones there.
Speaker 3: And I don't know if you ever noticed, when you're
Speaker 3: driving and you go to the same rout all time,
Speaker 3: you always look like it's the same things. I mean,
Speaker 3: you have like certain things you always look at.
Speaker 4: And for me, I always looked up that pile, that
Speaker 4: that pie line.
Speaker 3: I don't know why I always did.
Speaker 4: And I saw a head like I just saw this
Speaker 4: red It was like a burnt dark dark, burnt orange reddish.
Speaker 4: I saw look like a head and I just something
Speaker 4: told me to see what it was looking at, like
Speaker 4: it was peeking around looking and it was the piglets.
Speaker 4: It was looking across the at these piglets.
Speaker 3: And see at this.
Speaker 4: Edge, it's got like a swampy area wet land like
Speaker 4: you know, and you can see where something laid down
Speaker 4: trees and they're touching like a z like it wouldn't
Speaker 4: have to walk in the water.
Speaker 3: It made like a a But that.
Speaker 4: Was the first one I ever saw, was up that
Speaker 4: power line, and I wasn't I didn't believe what I saw.
Speaker 3: I didn't.
Speaker 4: I couldn't figure out what it was. I didn't know
Speaker 4: what it was. That's odd, you know, because it was
Speaker 4: a cedar tree. It was behind so it was it
Speaker 4: was daylight and it was bright, and so it stood out.
Speaker 4: I mean it really stood out. It was weird and
Speaker 4: it and then when I was leaving the storm and
Speaker 4: come back and looked back up there, and it was gone,
Speaker 4: but you could see where it pulled the part of
Speaker 4: the cedar tree over like it was tiding itself, and
Speaker 4: that one only saw from like the mid short like
Speaker 4: breast up but not brust, but like above the brust
Speaker 4: the shoulders in the head. And I didn't I mean,
Speaker 4: it was far enough why I couldn't make off the
Speaker 4: you know, facial features of it. And plus I was
Speaker 4: driving and so.
Speaker 3: I just glanced and I was like, what the heck?
Speaker 4: And that was the first line that I had saw,
Speaker 4: but I didn't believe I saw it. And now I
Speaker 4: think it was because of those pilets and you could
Speaker 4: see where and I've actually noticed the they you know,
Speaker 4: the trees and stuff over there are odd and and
Speaker 4: it laid stuff across the water like it was making
Speaker 4: where it didn't have to walk in that black swampy
Speaker 4: because the dismal swamps off through Virginia too, you know,
Speaker 4: through North Carolina Virginia and stuff, but we have some
Speaker 4: swampy areas and it's black, roast smelly.
Speaker 3: And plus the pigs over there, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: But it's absolutely wild.
Speaker 2: You're right your area with the trailer, your trailer when
Speaker 2: you're in the trailer or yes, sir Camper, do you
Speaker 2: ever hear anything weird outside? So you have like it
Speaker 2: pushes you back and forth? Did you ever hear anything
Speaker 2: out there?
Speaker 4: I've heard a grunt and stuff, but you know, a
Speaker 4: deer or grunt. And I know that, you know, but
Speaker 4: I can't say that it's that. It's that, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But I feel like they was they
Speaker 4: was messing with me, you know what I'm saying, just
Speaker 4: playing because they would do.
Speaker 3: It every once in a while. I have my dog
Speaker 3: in here with me, and I have a.
Speaker 4: Little kiddy that she's trying but when the dog jumps down,
Speaker 4: it doesn't make the camper move or nothing, really, you know,
Speaker 4: it doesn't make anything move. And we were all back
Speaker 4: in the back of the camper and I was laying
Speaker 4: down and something took camper and rocked it again. And
Speaker 4: and it was like it would come back like every
Speaker 4: hour or two hours and just push on like a
Speaker 4: run past my push it and do that and say,
Speaker 4: finally I got mad because it kept waiting out. I
Speaker 4: was like, leave me the alone. You know. I was
Speaker 4: fussing at it like I would fussing your kid or.
Speaker 3: I'm coming out there.
Speaker 4: And you know, well.
Speaker 3: Boy, because I was fired.
Speaker 4: But I mean, and then it didn't bother me anymore
Speaker 4: that night. But it's not the last time. But but
Speaker 4: I'm very vocal and if it's if something starts to
Speaker 4: mess around here, like that thing in that tree, I
Speaker 4: saw it and I've taken a picture, but it what
Speaker 4: they say is a blob squatch, you know. But I
Speaker 4: mean you can see the darkness. You can see it
Speaker 4: in the cedar tree and you can see I can
Speaker 4: show you them branches they've done pulled them around and
Speaker 4: a little way motorcycle home like the waters.
Speaker 3: And there where they sit, you know, and it's two
Speaker 3: it's two levels to it.
Speaker 4: But I could tell that, you know, they say that
Speaker 4: you've got you feel something watching me. Well, the weird
Speaker 4: thing is, I was sitting in the camper and I
Speaker 4: could feel something watching me.
Speaker 3: And I was like, what the you know why I'm
Speaker 3: I feeling this way?
Speaker 4: And I just have a club chair and they it
Speaker 4: swavels and rocks and stuff, and so I swaveled around
Speaker 4: and I just looked through the window, thinking that somebody
Speaker 4: might have pulled into.
Speaker 3: The driveway or whatever.
Speaker 4: So I started, excuse me, I started looking in the
Speaker 4: I'm getting I can't break.
Speaker 3: It's very frightening.
Speaker 4: I thought that there was somebody that had pulled into
Speaker 4: the driveway, like the ups guy or the mailman or
Speaker 4: something like that, that I'd had to go out, you know,
Speaker 4: out and take it into my parents or and stuff
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 3: So I looked out and I don't I had noticed something.
Speaker 4: This cedar tree is go across the hard surface road
Speaker 4: on the people that live over there on their property,
Speaker 4: and I noticed something dark in there because it was
Speaker 4: the middle of the day.
Speaker 3: Again, and I was like, what the hell, Yeah, what
Speaker 3: is up?
Speaker 4: And there, And the more I looked at it, I
Speaker 4: just started like looking at the staring over there, just see.
Speaker 3: If it moved or whatever. It moved it like w
Speaker 3: 's a tree. Freak me out?
Speaker 4: Almost. I was like, I started yelling the window, don't
Speaker 4: you even think about coming over here. You stay over there,
Speaker 4: you know. I was like, he's a listener or whatever.
Speaker 4: It was gonna listen to me, but it went up
Speaker 4: the tree. I mean, but I'm just like I had
Speaker 4: him and it's gonna hear me. It's gonna no, I
Speaker 4: don't want to hear you know. I mean, that's my
Speaker 4: only defense is to be loud. And because like I said,
Speaker 4: I'm just have a neck injury. So and it affects
Speaker 4: my back and my neck and my arms and I
Speaker 4: and to feel to be.
Speaker 3: Depressed about I can't do the things that I want
Speaker 3: to do.
Speaker 4: It affects me and affects my walking, then my balance,
Speaker 4: and it affects a lot, you know, and to feel
Speaker 4: frail in the first place. And then I have something
Speaker 4: like that be almost a select well no, not almost, but.
Speaker 3: Is a threat.
Speaker 4: It's very it's very upsetting, that is all I can
Speaker 4: tell you. You know, I don't want that. I don't
Speaker 4: want this shit aptening to me. I want to know
Speaker 4: what they are so I can either banish, kill it,
Speaker 4: or do something because I don't care who what. I
Speaker 4: just wanted to leave you alone. And it seems like
Speaker 4: everywhere I go, Now that's something they follow me or
Speaker 4: I can feel them around me. They're everywhere. It's Whi's
Speaker 4: just it's a miss paranoia, and that's why I'm thinking.
Speaker 4: That's why I'm like, I'm half cracked. I'm too, I'm
Speaker 4: not the brightest crowning in the in the box. You know,
Speaker 4: something going on. I mean, I even refuse my mama
Speaker 4: not dropping me from a baby, but throwing me. I
Speaker 4: was like, what, you know, it's crazy. It just makes
Speaker 4: you feel so out of sorts and so weak. I'm so,
Speaker 4: it's I'm so, I just we're be wanting to hurt us.
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, you take one to take out how
Speaker 4: many of us? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Just one?
Speaker 4: And I'm and the one I saw at the pileline
Speaker 4: was that, like I said, it's that rust color, that darker,
Speaker 4: darker than orange, but lighter than red.
Speaker 3: It was in between that like that brought orange.
Speaker 4: You know. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Oh and one of them just worke with limb up.
Speaker 4: Here on our I have. We have white oak, and
Speaker 4: we had pin oak, and we have red oak and
Speaker 4: stuff we aren't wt of hardwood's here. They took a
Speaker 4: branch just now, just this week, and the branch was
Speaker 4: like five inches around circumference of it and just snapped
Speaker 4: it off.
Speaker 3: It snapped off and it won't.
Speaker 4: No wind, no nothing, and we ain't had no no
Speaker 4: storms nothing. Wow that it wasn't it was. It was
Speaker 4: not written or nothing. Then it was higher enough where
Speaker 4: nobody could reach it, knew it was. It's on the
Speaker 4: power line here, but it's just was snapped down, straight down,
Speaker 4: and it.
Speaker 3: Was laid It was snapped to the point where it.
Speaker 4: Was laid up close to the tree. And all I
Speaker 4: could think it was like a blind You know what
Speaker 4: I mean to block?
Speaker 3: Like a blind?
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, I mean, what the what the heck?
Speaker 4: So you ever feel like you, dearman, you come over
Speaker 4: here and shoot them and get them away from me?
Speaker 4: Do something? Find up what these are? To protect ourselves.
Speaker 4: That's what I want to know, only for protecting. If
Speaker 4: it's a spiritual being we have dominion. God granted us dominions,
Speaker 4: you know, if it is, and that's what I think
Speaker 4: it is. And and and you know, like I said,
Speaker 4: there's certain things in the Bible. There's like three things
Speaker 4: that really draw my attention. And you know in the
Speaker 4: Bible that they could be. I can't say because I'm
Speaker 4: not an expert. I'm not dumb, but I'm very curious
Speaker 4: only because they're they're messing with.
Speaker 3: Me, and and I feel like, uh, they you know.
Speaker 4: The thing is like when that that thing space was
Speaker 4: in the the face that was in my wonder was tan.
Speaker 4: It was it was almost like a like the.
Speaker 3: It was a brown, like a my own face. The
Speaker 3: eyes were.
Speaker 4: Wider, but you couldn't you couldn't see any All I
Speaker 4: could see it was its space.
Speaker 3: I couldn't see like.
Speaker 4: Hair to it or because it was dark it was
Speaker 4: it was might have been black because it was dark outside.
Speaker 3: And my friend terrors here and.
Speaker 4: She saw it.
Speaker 3: I said, do you see the space over here?
Speaker 4: All I did was put the curtain. Now, I went
Speaker 4: to the curtain in his space. I mean, what am
Speaker 4: I gonna do? I said, you better get away from me,
Speaker 4: you know, close the windows, shut the curtain, and I
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, hell out of here, you know, I mean,
Speaker 4: but I mean, I don't know what else to do.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't need an elephant gun.
Speaker 4: I need something.
Speaker 2: Because you considered putting uh game cams, game cameras up
Speaker 2: around your place.
Speaker 3: We got game cams.
Speaker 4: My My whole family is hunt and fishing. You know
Speaker 4: country people that that love all the outdoor stop. There's
Speaker 4: game cams all around here.
Speaker 1: How close nobody's on how close to your trip?
Speaker 4: Oh, there's not one on my camper on the other
Speaker 4: side of my mama's house.
Speaker 3: But I don't have any. I don't know, maybe my
Speaker 3: son right here.
Speaker 4: I'm i gonna put them up.
Speaker 3: It's hard enough getting somebody put a Durer light bulb
Speaker 3: up for you.
Speaker 4: All the outside lights, you know, because they their lives.
Speaker 4: But I stay here because my father, Like I said,
Speaker 4: my father just passed, and my mother I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: let her be alone.
Speaker 3: And she, you know, she has her prophecy and I
Speaker 3: have mine.
Speaker 4: That's the only reason why I'm in the in the
Speaker 4: camper outside is because, like I said, I smoke and
Speaker 4: this clock right here is not gonna.
Speaker 3: Let me quit cigarettes.
Speaker 4: For a long time, I was figuring, Uh, there's no
Speaker 4: way I'm gonna be able to more Borough.
Speaker 3: It's gonna have.
Speaker 4: My business until the day I die.
Speaker 3: Because it's just it's made me so frightened.
Speaker 4: I am so frightened and terrified to the point where
Speaker 4: it's only because it's it's the size of them. But
Speaker 4: I have to cling to the to the fact that
Speaker 4: they did not, you know, and the thing could the
Speaker 4: thing was was I mean not only just that one
Speaker 4: black one, but that that gray one. It was.
Speaker 3: It was a mister gray too. I'm miss white.
Speaker 4: But like I told you, I thought it was a
Speaker 4: big fat to you with a white shirt on the ball,
Speaker 4: you know. I thought it was worker and the closer, god,
Speaker 4: the bigger, and it was just it was an adult.
Speaker 4: It was a bigger than the black one. And this
Speaker 4: one was thick. This one was was what you would
Speaker 4: I would expect to be and not that lanky black
Speaker 4: one the first one. So then I started thinking maybe
Speaker 4: it was that was its child or kid or whatever
Speaker 4: you club or I don't know what you were, you know,
Speaker 4: maybe it was it's it's parents, you know, to the
Speaker 4: black one. That's all I can think of is why
Speaker 4: they were together, you know that. Dad.
Speaker 3: Oh god, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 4: I am just it.
Speaker 3: It makes me have anxiety, if you can tell.
Speaker 4: I'm talking so fast and.
Speaker 2: You're going through some stuff for sure, camp the camper
Speaker 2: stuff is happening current day.
Speaker 4: Yes, well that like the last thing that happened is
Speaker 4: to handprint in the face. They hadn't pushed on us
Speaker 4: on it on it really anymore.
Speaker 3: That I've noticed.
Speaker 4: But like I said, my daddy just passed away, and
Speaker 4: I've been staying there in the house with my mother
Speaker 4: and comforting, trying.
Speaker 3: To comfort her with her time of dealing with her
Speaker 3: losing the love of her wife.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So I'm in the camper now.
Speaker 3: But they don't wonder. I don't think they really want
Speaker 3: to mess with me because I'm not very I'm spit.
Speaker 4: For I really don I don't want think. But I
Speaker 4: had to be because I'm the youngest. They had four
Speaker 4: older sisters will pick on me. You know, you get
Speaker 4: you a point in your life where you like, screw
Speaker 4: the stuff exactly.
Speaker 2: Your son. Is he in the house anymore? Where they
Speaker 2: tried to.
Speaker 4: He moved to probably about three miles down the road
Speaker 4: from it.
Speaker 1: Big for society will be right back after these messages.
Speaker 4: All this is, here's happening within a three mile if you,
Speaker 4: if you will put the dot a dot in the
Speaker 4: middle of all of this, where the places like my
Speaker 4: sister's fawn, my son's rental house, my old house, and
Speaker 4: where I'm at now. It's a three mile radius. You
Speaker 4: know as a crow flies because I hear and being
Speaker 4: the foothills and ravines and stuff. You could drive eight
Speaker 4: miles and down the road and buy the crow flies.
Speaker 3: It's only three miles, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Because you have to go down hills and up up
Speaker 4: hills and then turns, and you know, it's really windy country, right,
Speaker 4: it's just beautiful. Virginia is so beautiful, and you know
Speaker 4: it's it's just crazy.
Speaker 3: It's just really freaked out.
Speaker 4: But you know what the weird thing is is I
Speaker 4: was reading the David the Missing Person's David Police Polly's
Speaker 4: or whatever his name is. He was doing that that
Speaker 4: study and what they were talking about the dramatic backgrounds
Speaker 4: of these people, and that's what my family is from.
Speaker 4: My daddy's people were from Austria, and my mama's people
Speaker 4: are Dutch, Swedish right and Viking and stuff, and the
Speaker 4: Scandinavians and stuff.
Speaker 3: And then we lived near our nuclear power plant. I'm
Speaker 3: in the rid zone. Always jove to my friends because
Speaker 3: it's true.
Speaker 4: If anything happens, I got done worried about Jollimon's gonna
Speaker 4: get sick.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be dying.
Speaker 4: You know, what are you doing? I I'm gonna be
Speaker 4: dying instantly because we have the power plant here. If
Speaker 4: I have my son, I can't even say that anyway.
Speaker 4: But he's moved three miles from where he were and
Speaker 4: he still hunts and stops. He's not scared. He's a
Speaker 4: manly man. The boy I call him fast squatch and
Speaker 4: just joking with him because he has a five fifteen
Speaker 4: to two. I mean, he's big, you know, and he's not.
Speaker 4: But he's not scared to go hunting and stuff. And
Speaker 4: he still does. But he knows about these things and
Speaker 4: it hasn't scared him to the point where he's gonna
Speaker 4: quit getting his meat and his stuff for his frasers
Speaker 4: and defeed, his his family. He's not gonna stop, you know.
Speaker 4: And I can understand that. But yeah, if it was
Speaker 4: up to me, he wouldn't be doing none of that.
Speaker 4: You know, he's stay at the woods. It's the stat Woods.
Speaker 4: You know, unless you've got to go in there, don't
Speaker 4: go in there. You know.
Speaker 3: I just don't want nothing to happen to anybody.
Speaker 4: Can't help it. It's that's what they've installed in me,
Speaker 4: is that fear. It's frightening, Laurie.
Speaker 2: It sounds like this area that you're in in western Virginia.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's got a lot of stuff goinging on
Speaker 2: from I mean, yeah, I'm going on.
Speaker 4: But you don't hear a lot from Virginia. You hear
Speaker 4: North Carolina, West Virginia and stuff. And I don't know why,
Speaker 4: but I mean, like I said, being up these people here,
Speaker 4: I mean, Virginia is the oldest state in Union first
Speaker 4: one yourktown.
Speaker 3: And these people are older people.
Speaker 4: Mainly that famili has been here since my family we've
Speaker 4: traced them back to the sixteen hundreds here. My lineage
Speaker 4: is long, and that's how it is here. You know,
Speaker 4: a lot of these families there have been here all
Speaker 4: their lives and all of their families lives and all
Speaker 4: their relatives since way back when.
Speaker 3: And they're not people to.
Speaker 4: Don't talk none won't be No, I mean is what
Speaker 4: I can tell you. They don't talk like that. They
Speaker 4: don't do that. Now.
Speaker 3: If there is a threat, they're going to let their
Speaker 3: neighbors know.
Speaker 4: But it's not going to be shouting out and letting
Speaker 4: everybody know. And I mean, that's just how they are.
Speaker 4: It's just like you don't go up on nobody's property
Speaker 4: out here trying to poke now and then I'm telling
Speaker 4: you truth. It's more role than which, Yeah, just because
Speaker 4: Washington is up hut, you know, closer to us and stuff.
Speaker 4: This is country here, and they will suit you and
Speaker 4: you don't go with nobody's and you better.
Speaker 3: Know respect and manners.
Speaker 4: You know. That's just the way it is. But they're
Speaker 4: not the type of people to be screaming it out
Speaker 4: unfortunately here at home, because I'm screaming it because I
Speaker 4: just want people to know for.
Speaker 3: Safety and I don't want any children to be hurt.
Speaker 4: I don't want anybody's babies, anybody's brother, anybody's cousin, anybody's nephew, grandson, anything, grandchildren,
Speaker 4: grand their daughters. I don't want anybody hurt from this
Speaker 4: because it needs to be no, just for a safety aspect,
Speaker 4: I mean, please, you know, please let people know.
Speaker 3: Please let them know.
Speaker 4: If you ever see one of these things, you need
Speaker 4: to tell because if you don't, then shame on you,
Speaker 4: you know, shame on you, just just the way I feel.
Speaker 4: I mean, because the way that they insinuated to us
Speaker 4: back in the day, that you would have thought just
Speaker 4: specific northwest in your area, you know, not here on
Speaker 4: these coasts.
Speaker 3: I'm right here.
Speaker 4: I'd go to Washington up to go up to the
Speaker 4: durned White House in three hours, and not that i'd
Speaker 4: like to, I know, I don't go nor I don't
Speaker 4: go any higher than where I'm at. I don't need to.
Speaker 4: Y'all keep it, you know, but I mean, that's just
Speaker 4: the thing. It's it's they're everywhere. They're not just there,
Speaker 4: and for our children's sake, you need to let people know.
Speaker 4: And I appreciate you, Jerema, for doing this because it
Speaker 4: is a service and it's a good thing. So so
Speaker 4: you should be very very very proud of yourself because
Speaker 4: people keep it, keep your families safe. If you think
Speaker 4: about their strength and their size and what they can
Speaker 4: accomplish and even with the weird.
Speaker 3: Craft that they can do with the oh god.
Speaker 4: I don't even want to get into that mess. I mean,
Speaker 4: come on, it all takes one could wait, but how
Speaker 4: many people?
Speaker 3: I mean, how many people could just one?
Speaker 4: Do you know?
Speaker 3: And how many order? I mean, come on, it's scary.
Speaker 3: It's very scary.
Speaker 2: Laurie's a wild thing. And you're absolutely right. I mean,
Speaker 2: people when they've if they've seen something they need to
Speaker 2: they need to say something, they can definitely, you know,
Speaker 2: reach out. They can email me directly at Bigfoot Society
Speaker 2: at gmail dot com. And this just helps other people
Speaker 2: realize what's in their area. I'm going to guess when
Speaker 2: you tell your sister what you saw, she's gonna say,
Speaker 2: I already know.
Speaker 3: I'm kind of waiting, yeah, for her to tell me.
Speaker 3: I'm kind of doing.
Speaker 4: That because, like I said, it's a a I don't
Speaker 4: know what my problem is because I've told I mean,
Speaker 4: I've told some of my nieces and that I have
Speaker 4: a large family.
Speaker 3: I really do.
Speaker 4: I mean, this's five of us and they're all girls.
Speaker 4: I'm the baby princess anyway, and she's the oldest, like
Speaker 4: I told you, and so she's always been more of
Speaker 4: a mother to me than a sister as far as
Speaker 4: she's always been the oldest. I'm the baby, so there's
Speaker 4: a different in our relationship than her saying in my
Speaker 4: second oldest sister, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 4: told him that the second oldest sister trying to get
Speaker 4: her with information to my oldest in a way. You know.
Speaker 4: I don't know what my problem is was that, But
Speaker 4: don't think that I wouldn't as far as her safety.
Speaker 4: And I know for a matter of fact that she
Speaker 4: does not go to farm without.
Speaker 3: Somebody with her. She goes every day, takes care of
Speaker 3: her horses and stuff.
Speaker 4: But I know that she's got people with her, you know,
Speaker 4: because of my nieces and stuff, and because all of
Speaker 4: the children they love the horses and stuff, and so
Speaker 4: they go with her and her husband's there.
Speaker 3: So I don't as far as safety goes that way.
Speaker 4: But I mean, I I just unfortunately, but I had
Speaker 4: the luckily, like I said I had, I was on
Speaker 4: video chat on messenger on Facebook, and then it's a
Speaker 4: video call with my friend, and then I called my
Speaker 4: sister on the same thing just that she could see it,
Speaker 4: you know, So I so people would I don't. I
Speaker 4: had witnesses and then my friend has witness things here,
Speaker 4: so I'm not.
Speaker 3: I just feel I'm not that crazy.
Speaker 4: But I'm close, you.
Speaker 1: Know, we all are.
Speaker 2: It's fine, Lauren, it's been it's been really fun chatting
Speaker 2: with you. I mean, you've got some wild stuff going
Speaker 2: on down there. Please don't hesitate to reach out if
Speaker 2: any other weird stuff happens or if you you know,
Speaker 2: you can always you know, share my contact info with
Speaker 2: you know, anyone else that if they get to a
Speaker 2: point where they want to talk, you know, definitely, if
Speaker 2: they feel I.
Speaker 4: Can reach out to that, I'll reach out to that
Speaker 4: dude on that on the app and see if I
Speaker 4: could get him to some email.
Speaker 3: Because he wanted to talk to me. I gave him
Speaker 3: a plumber and and and told.
Speaker 4: Him he could call me and and you know, I
Speaker 4: was practicing because I don't want to scare him with
Speaker 4: his children, but I don't want them to be you know,
Speaker 4: snatched or or hurt. And that's why I'm about.
Speaker 3: Getting to him, because of the children.
Speaker 4: And you know, the precious I just that's there are
Speaker 4: gifts from God. A child is a gift and you
Speaker 4: better take care of it, you know, absolutely, And that's
Speaker 4: the way I look at it. And I can't help him.
Speaker 4: But I'll do anything I can for a child on
Speaker 4: this planet and you know, keep them safe and do
Speaker 4: anything I can.
Speaker 3: And if it's something.
Speaker 4: To make me look crazy, like I say, and have
Speaker 4: that beautiful white coat with the wrapping arms, I don't care.
Speaker 4: I'm going to do it because they need for our
Speaker 4: protection and that's the way. That's what I am been
Speaker 4: raised for and how I've been raised and I will
Speaker 4: do it to the I die just that type of person.
Speaker 4: But thank you for listening to me. And this is therapy.
Speaker 4: It's it's just to have somebody that believes you is
Speaker 4: what we need to and it's it's helping me. You know.
Speaker 4: I've only told this story to that guy Steve on
Speaker 4: how to Hunt, like I told you, I wrote down
Speaker 4: because I needed somebody to talk to. I couldn't find
Speaker 4: any kind of anybody out here to talk to that
Speaker 4: that would understand what I'm going through. I mean, you
Speaker 4: can tell your friends and your family all you want,
Speaker 4: but unless they go through it themselves, it's it's really
Speaker 4: nothing that you can I can't express it to give
Speaker 4: the impact of that situation that that it was impaled
Speaker 4: on me. I mean, it was I feel like it
Speaker 4: was just forced on me. And you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: I just I didn't ask for I didn't go look,
Speaker 4: and I ain't knocking on no tree or none like that.
Speaker 4: I am leaving no food out from nobody and none
Speaker 4: like that, because like I said, we have bears here,
Speaker 4: we have mount bons, which they say they don't exist,
Speaker 4: but yet.
Speaker 3: They're killed up right up the street.
Speaker 4: And got pictures of the boys in the store with
Speaker 4: the tongue hanging out of this thing. I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: and I just, oh god, it's just frustrating.
Speaker 3: But anyway, you let me vent, you know, like my
Speaker 3: dear Abby, that's.
Speaker 1: Been a pleasure chat LORI for sure.
Speaker 3: All right, have a great nine honey you too.
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