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<v Speaker 1>A voice in the dark, herd Daily exactly the things

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<v Speaker 2>wishing everyone a very happy Tuesday, and welcome a back

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<v Speaker 2>fifty five AIRC Morning Show. It's time for the inside

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<v Speaker 2>scoop from Breitbart Bookmarket b R E I T B

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<v Speaker 2>A r T. Breitbart dot Com. Welcome back Oliver Lane,

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<v Speaker 2>the London bureau Chief editor Tay. We've got several topics

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about, Oliver. Happy new year to you, Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>back to the morning show.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy new yet you too, and thank you for having

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<v Speaker 1>me back.

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<v Speaker 2>You gate rather interesting article and I'll strongly encourage my

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<v Speaker 2>listeners again. Breitbart dot Com look up the article modern

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<v Speaker 2>Life under Attack. Twenty twenty four should have been the

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<v Speaker 2>year the West woke up to infrastructure sabotage. Frightening stuff

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<v Speaker 2>you have in here. Of course you talk about the Russian,

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<v Speaker 2>you talk about the Chinese, but then we also have

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of radicalized individuals, no coordinated efforts. No, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't belong to cells, they don't have the internet

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<v Speaker 2>traffic and back and forth they're attacking the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>various forms of infrastructure as well. I mean, we have

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<v Speaker 2>a multitude of bad actors out in the world, and

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<v Speaker 2>is there really anything we can do about it by

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<v Speaker 2>way of preparation or I mean, I guess I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sort of puzzled at the solution to all of this.

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<v Speaker 1>You summarized it very well, and there's sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>purpose of this article that I wrote. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>as almost a counterpoints to the prevailing official narrative, which

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<v Speaker 1>is that we're coming under a great deal of attack

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of what they call hybrid warfare and the

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<v Speaker 1>attack on infrastructure, which are authored predominantly by Russia and

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<v Speaker 1>Russian agents. And I think when people talk about China,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so often more of the sort of cybersecurity side

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<v Speaker 1>of things has but when it comes to physical attacks,

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<v Speaker 1>the talk is about Russia. And I do not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I would not challenge these are real issues. But what

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<v Speaker 1>I think has to be talked about as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think is I think it's possibly even downplayed. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there is almost an attempt to cover up here

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<v Speaker 1>is the degree to which that radicalized individuals, as you say,

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<v Speaker 1>from the hard left, what they call in France the

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<v Speaker 1>ultra left who, as far as we can tell, because

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<v Speaker 1>factor there's been so little research done on this, and

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<v Speaker 1>Western intelligence agencies it seems to me are actually shy

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<v Speaker 1>about talking about this. They're averse talking about leftwig extremism

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<v Speaker 1>at all. Who are launching these attacks? Now? I think

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of the reason I decided to do this

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<v Speaker 1>article now this year is the attack on French infrastructure

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<v Speaker 1>the day of the Olympics. You remember, of course, we

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<v Speaker 1>all remember that insane Paris Olympics opening ceremony. Well have

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<v Speaker 1>got a a lot of headlines, but what I was

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<v Speaker 1>really thinking about that day was the fact that Paris

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<v Speaker 1>came under attack that morning. And it did make global headlines,

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<v Speaker 1>but not as much as I think it really ought

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<v Speaker 1>to have. And what happened was at strategic points on

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<v Speaker 1>railways going in and out of Paris, in every direction

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<v Speaker 1>coming in out of Paris. And this was a coordinated

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<v Speaker 1>attack by groups of people or a group of people

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<v Speaker 1>who knew who knew the system, they knew where to strike,

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<v Speaker 1>to do absolutely the minimal actual possible work to get

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<v Speaker 1>the maximum possible in damage. And this is very simple.

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<v Speaker 1>All you need to know is where the cables are

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<v Speaker 1>the cables are government signaling. You need a pair of

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<v Speaker 1>bolt croppers and you can bring an entire railway system

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<v Speaker 1>to its knees. And this is exactly what they did.

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<v Speaker 1>Hundreds of thousands of people were stranded because when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to operating modern high speed rail, safety is so important.

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<v Speaker 1>And if there is no signaling, which is of course

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<v Speaker 1>all computer controlled, all the data for signaling is transmitted

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<v Speaker 1>by fiber optic cable. If there is no signaling, there

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<v Speaker 1>is no railway.

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<v Speaker 2>What you have is hundreds of.

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<v Speaker 1>Thousands of tons of scrap steel that you can't run

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<v Speaker 1>the railway otherwise. And it's incredible. I think that actually

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<v Speaker 1>we've heard so little about this st already since the

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<v Speaker 1>French government decided that it probably was the Ultra left

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<v Speaker 1>and then they dropped the story like a hot stone.

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<v Speaker 1>So what this ask call you that you're very kindly

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<v Speaker 1>sighted in mind at the beginning of this segment. What

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<v Speaker 1>it does is actually look at all the other stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that that's been going on this year, and there

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<v Speaker 1>was just so much of it, and it is so

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<v Speaker 1>little talking about it. I think it's going to become

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<v Speaker 2>Well clearly, and you mentioned railways, and there's this obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>there's this crazy push and here in America to build railways,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is the solution for modern transportation, and I

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<v Speaker 2>always look at it. You know, well, wait a second.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems to me to be the most easily easy

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<v Speaker 2>system of transportation to sabotage. Along the lines of what

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<v Speaker 2>you said. I mean, if you get four guys with

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of crowbars, I imagine you could take out

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<v Speaker 2>one rail, and if you can take out one rail,

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<v Speaker 2>you derail a modern engine and derail the whole the

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<v Speaker 2>entire railway system. Maybe not that simple, but it's pretty

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<v Speaker 2>damn simple. We've had a tax on powers. You get

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of guys with with with modern rifles and

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<v Speaker 2>they start shooting at the transformers. It's easy to disable

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<v Speaker 2>the power grid in a certain area just by launching

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<v Speaker 2>an attack on one little thing like that. Honestly, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's that's kind of the point. Actually, it happens

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<v Speaker 1>more often than I realize. It's just not talked about

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<v Speaker 1>because there isn't with these kinds of attacks. There isn't

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<v Speaker 1>a sort of sexy Russian spies angle. It's actually a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of crumby leftists, like hard leftists who hate the

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<v Speaker 1>modern world, who hate consumerism, and yeah, these are the

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<v Speaker 1>these are the deep growth, the growth guys.

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<v Speaker 2>These are the people who think that we.

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<v Speaker 1>Should be using less energy, people should be confined in

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<v Speaker 1>their immediate neighborhoods. Mass transit is a problem if you're

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<v Speaker 1>like that hard left and that heart green.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so some you mentioned, Yeah, go ahead, No, I

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<v Speaker 2>as to say so, Oliver your because the obvious question that's,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, sort of screening here is what is the point?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you go and you stand there and

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<v Speaker 2>you throw paint on a rem brand and your point

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<v Speaker 2>is because global warming and you say it out loud,

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<v Speaker 2>it may be stupid and pointless, but at least you're

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<v Speaker 2>saying out loud, I hate global warming and I believe

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<v Speaker 2>in it, and I'm trying to bring people's attention to it.

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<v Speaker 2>But just bringing transportation to a screeching halt without any

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<v Speaker 2>message associated with it, I mean, the only thing I

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<v Speaker 2>can conclude, as you have, these have to be left

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<v Speaker 2>wing extremists because they're trying to bring society to a halt.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely right. The point is undermining confidence in.

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<v Speaker 2>The modern world.

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<v Speaker 1>If you get to a point where you think there's

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<v Speaker 1>no point taking your trains, you can't guarantee it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to get you somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the point.

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<v Speaker 1>And in terms of the stuff that we've seen this year,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't have to be a message associated with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's actually a whole spectrum on this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>thing you mentioned a moment ago. Yeah, how easy it

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<v Speaker 1>is actually to derail a t and these things do

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<v Speaker 1>happen in the Ukraine War, the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 1>Ukrainian partisans are like blowing up Russian supply trains all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and this is a very easy thing to

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<v Speaker 1>do if you have you know, C four and you

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<v Speaker 1>know all that sort of thing. But that's like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>very high on the on the scale of violence, like

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<v Speaker 1>you're potentially killing people by and that's you know, probably

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't fit very well into the playbook of these left

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<v Speaker 1>wing extremists because they don't want to get caught, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to go to prison, and because the the

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<v Speaker 1>interference they're doing the attacks, there's there's no violence involved whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very low level, so there's there's very little instances

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<v Speaker 1>that I can tell people actually ever being prosecuted this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff because no one's being injured overwork. Police are forces

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<v Speaker 1>just don't have time to look into it. But this, this,

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<v Speaker 1>this metastasized is this this, this rolls on like a

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<v Speaker 1>great snowball falling down the cliff because it grows, and

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<v Speaker 1>it grows because I think of feeding of impunity then, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I can certainly understand that on some twisted level,

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<v Speaker 2>these people a political ideology is what it is. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is all very very low hanging fruit, right, Oliver.

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<v Speaker 2>It's low hanging, it's simple to accomplish, it's low tech

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of all you need are minimalist supplies to

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<v Speaker 2>bring about your intended result, and therefore it happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is if this becomes more broadly coordinated, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think, going back to your comment about the Chinese

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<v Speaker 2>Communist Party, I mean, we just had our own intelligence

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<v Speaker 2>officials point out that listen, anytime they want, the Chinese

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<v Speaker 2>could just completely wipe out our electric grid. That scares

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<v Speaker 2>the living hell out of the Oliver. But apparently they've

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<v Speaker 2>got the resources, they have the embedded software. They've been

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<v Speaker 2>at this for years and years, they are at it

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four to seven with propecion or professional Chinese Communist

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<v Speaker 2>Party government organ is organized hackers. They're doing this all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. But with these left wing radical individuals, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>is there any possibility that these low hanging fruit choosing

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<v Speaker 1>So I think a key part of these ultra left

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<v Speaker 1>I say groups because I don't think there are groups. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I think a key part of the mo of these

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<v Speaker 1>ultra left individualists is they understand that the second you

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<v Speaker 1>become organized and you have groups, you have chat, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that gives evective intelligence agencies to go after you. And

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<v Speaker 1>if they are all self radicalized and they are all

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<v Speaker 1>self directed and it's a you know, death buy a

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<v Speaker 1>billion pinpricks, I think that they they believe that is

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<v Speaker 1>the tactic that works best for them, because as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as you start having meetings, as soon as you start

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<v Speaker 1>having email chains, that's where that's where the observation comes.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a real problem for the law abiding majority.

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<v Speaker 1>A great parallel to the is the Islamic State, which

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<v Speaker 1>has had unfortunately very high level of success in attacking

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<v Speaker 1>European cities because they have had these lines of communication

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<v Speaker 1>from you know, what was the Islamic State in Iraq

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<v Speaker 1>and Syria publishing totally openly things as simple as the

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<v Speaker 1>ICE has had a magazine I think it was called

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<v Speaker 1>Dibick or something like that, and rather than being you know,

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<v Speaker 1>lovely articles on fashion or the latest news, it's packed

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<v Speaker 1>cover to cover with how to conduct low level terror attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>And actually, as you brought up earlier, I remember and asked,

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<v Speaker 1>I think going back to twenty sixteen that was published

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<v Speaker 1>in this magazine, which was a quite a granular, detailed

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<v Speaker 1>report on how to derail a train. But this meme,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, of Islamists terrorists in Europe driving cars through crowds,

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<v Speaker 1>which now you know, you know unfortunately so well in

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<v Speaker 1>the UN as well. This, you know, this is to

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<v Speaker 1>a very large extent, started in this magazine. It was

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<v Speaker 1>tried once, it was found to work, and this Islamic

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<v Speaker 1>State magazine put it in the next edition, which was

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to kill the Infidel, borrow high power

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<v Speaker 1>car and drive it through a marketplace. But because there's

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<v Speaker 1>no direct communication between Islamic State leadership and anyone in

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<v Speaker 1>any cell in Europe. It's just anybody can you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they shouldn't, but anybody can download this stuff and read it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's floating around on the internet. There's no communications chapter,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no two way talk for intelligence actors is to intercept.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have these what they call self radicalized loan

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<v Speaker 1>wolf attackers. When the attacks happened, the security services say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't on our radar. This person was not known

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<v Speaker 1>to us. And of course because all the people who

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<v Speaker 1>were known to you you've already arrested. It's the ones

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<v Speaker 1>who are self radicalized you can't lay hands.

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<v Speaker 2>On well, I have to conclude Oliver Lane Bright Bard,

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<v Speaker 2>London Bureau a Chief. This leaves us in a rather

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<v Speaker 2>desperate position. As long as there are people, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>let's point the far left wing terrorists or fundamentalist you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Islamic terrorism. But as long as there are people out

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<v Speaker 2>there that are hell bent on disrupting society, there really

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<v Speaker 2>isn't anything we can do about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a tough one because it's like the defining

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<v Speaker 1>characteristic infrastructure is it's very big and it's very distributed.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you give any sort of protection over real

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<v Speaker 1>network that spans thousands of miles where a single attack

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<v Speaker 1>at any single point will bring the whole thing to

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<v Speaker 1>a to a stumbling halt. And you know, again, I

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<v Speaker 1>just have to emphasize this. When I say attack, I

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<v Speaker 1>am not talking about people planting explosives to railing trains.

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<v Speaker 1>All it takes is a Molotov cocktail in a control cabinet.

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<v Speaker 1>All it takes is a pair of bolt proppers and

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<v Speaker 1>then discriminately cutting every cable in that trough that runs

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<v Speaker 1>alongside the railway. Doesn't matter which on you cut, it'll

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<v Speaker 1>do something. You could be out of there before anybody's

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<v Speaker 1>what's happened. It's a it's a real weakness because we

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<v Speaker 1>have a sophisticated, subtle, sophisticated, subtle systems that keep our

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<v Speaker 1>western modern world ticking over. And that's brilliant because it

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<v Speaker 1>gives us all a very high standard the civic. The

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<v Speaker 1>problem is is that when we live among people who

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<v Speaker 1>hate our way of life for one reason or another.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about the ultra left, we talked about Radicalislamists.

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<v Speaker 1>If they hate our way of life, that actually, these

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<v Speaker 1>very delicate, sophisticated systems provides a very effective vector for attack.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, they do. And you know, it's kind of funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm laughing because if we all decide that we need

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<v Speaker 2>to disconnect in order to prevent this, you know, disruption

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<v Speaker 2>in our very lives, we become more more of a

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<v Speaker 2>ludite type that would certainly fulfill their goals, which is

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<v Speaker 2>to be well, less connected, less consumptive, less energy. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you get consuming, et cetera, et cetera. It's crazy, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you have given so much food for thought.

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<v Speaker 2>All Lane again, please find the article Breitbart dot com

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<v Speaker 2>Modern Life under Attack. Twenty twenty four should have been

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<v Speaker 2>the year the West woke up to infrastructure sabotage. Oliver,

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy our conversations. I really appreciate you coming back on

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<v Speaker 2>in a best of or a happy New Year to

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<v Speaker 2>you and everyone in Breitbart, and I'll look forward to

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<v Speaker 2>talking with you again real soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Always a pleasure to be on them. Thanks again for

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<v Speaker 1>advising me my pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a twenty right now, fifty five K see the

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<v Speaker 2>talk station. Okay, here you go, Cover Sincy. Now. I

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned my friend Jeff from MARKHN and he listened to

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<v Speaker 2>with Cover Sincy and his employees are so happy. I

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<v Speaker 2>got an email from him this morning. I was driving

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<v Speaker 2>to work. I heard your shout out, don't mind you

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<v Speaker 2>if you use us at all. In other words, using

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<v Speaker 2>him as an illustration of what you can do cover

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<v Speaker 2>employees have had similar experiences. Should have made the switch

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<v Speaker 2>long ago. Just you know, he always gives me an

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<v Speaker 2>email talking about how great this has worked out for him.

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<v Speaker 2>He is responsible for the company, he is responsible for

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<v Speaker 2>lots of money, and his employees have better medical insurance

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<v Speaker 2>there is to it. Covers. Since he did either working

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<v Speaker 2>in touch with them. They'll check out where you are

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<v Speaker 2>medically in terms of your place in life, what you've

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<v Speaker 2>How about not paying nine thousand dollars out of pocket

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<v Speaker 2>cent to get in touch with them. And you initiate

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<v Speaker 2>you're great. You got the best coverage you can possibly get.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably not gonna happen, though they're gonna save your money.

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<v Speaker 2>You get better coverage online. There's a form you can

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<v Speaker 2>fill out on the website. It's Coversinsey dot com fifty

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