1 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho. 2 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,920 This is your host, Adam Brahm. In a moment, we're 3 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:43,679 going to bring you this week's episode of dragnapp. But 4 00:00:43,799 --> 00:00:47,240 first I want to encourage you. If you're enjoying the podcast, 5 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:52,719 please follow us using your favorite podcast software. Today's program 6 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,039 is brought you a part by the financial support of 7 00:00:55,079 --> 00:00:58,880 our listeners. You can become one of our ongoing Patreon 8 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,960 supporters for as little last two dollars per month at 9 00:01:02,039 --> 00:01:08,560 Patreon dot Great Detectives dot net. Now we have the 10 00:01:08,599 --> 00:01:15,000 first of many casting changes in terms of Joe Friday's partner. 11 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,760 This is a decision that played out on radio, but 12 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:25,439 really had its root in the television program Ed Jacobs 13 00:01:25,519 --> 00:01:30,480 was meant primarily as a stop get and the network 14 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:35,959 really thought that Barney Phillips looked too much like Jack Webb, 15 00:01:36,799 --> 00:01:40,439 and throughout Dragging its first season, they tried a lot 16 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,680 of things in order to make this less apparent. They 17 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:51,480 use glasses, they dyed Barney Phillips hair, and they also 18 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,519 for one episode gave him this amazing leather rain jacket, 19 00:01:56,719 --> 00:02:00,640 which I really wish had gotten more airtime. Yeah, if 20 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,280 they had to. They could just say it was raining 21 00:02:03,319 --> 00:02:06,640 all the time in Los Angeles, but apparently they were 22 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,919 not satisfied, and so they began the search for a 23 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,360 permanent partner. This mostly doesn't play out very much on TV, 24 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,960 as Barney Phillips would play at Jacobs throughout the entirety 25 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,319 of the first season, and then in the second season 26 00:02:24,759 --> 00:02:27,879 it wouldn't be long before Ben Alexander would take over 27 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,680 as Frank Smith. But over radio it was different, and 28 00:02:31,719 --> 00:02:35,759 they tried a few different things. This may have been 29 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,759 the best idea they had, and if it had worked, 30 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,199 it would have been a big shift in the series. 31 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:49,759 The new partner, unlike Friday's other partners, was a younger man, 32 00:02:50,319 --> 00:02:53,759 and so was the actor who played him, Martin Milner, 33 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,400 who had just turned twenty one and would go on 34 00:02:57,599 --> 00:03:03,159 to success on television, most notably in Route sixty six 35 00:03:03,599 --> 00:03:08,039 and then later for Web again in Adam twelve. Now 36 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:16,680 from April seventeenth, nineteen fifty two, Here is the Big Bunco. 37 00:03:21,719 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: The story you were about to hear is true. The 38 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:35,520 names have been changed to protect the innocence. You're a 39 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:40,400 detective sergeant. You're assigned the Bunco detail. An experienced confidence. 40 00:03:40,439 --> 00:03:42,400 Man is set up up. From his first two victims, 41 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,360 he gets more than eight thousand dollars. You've got one 42 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,639 good lead on the suspect, his method of operation, Your 43 00:03:48,759 --> 00:04:00,280 job get him. 44 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,039 Speaker 3: Drag Met the documented drama of an actual crime. All 45 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,840 the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles 46 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,680 Police Department, you will travel step by step on the 47 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,280 side of the law through an actual case transcribed from 48 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,759 official police files, from beginning to end, from crime to punishment. 49 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,759 Drag Net is the story of your police force and action. 50 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,519 Speaker 4: It was Tuesday, December ninth. It was Wendy in Los Angeles. 51 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,519 We were working the day watch out of Bunco Detail. 52 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,319 My partner's said Jacob's the bosses Captain Steve. My name 53 00:04:32,399 --> 00:04:34,399 is Friday. I was on the way into the office 54 00:04:34,399 --> 00:04:35,920 and it was seven p fifty am when I got 55 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:41,480 your room, thirty eight Bunco detail. All right, Joe, All right, Charlie, 56 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,279 how'd you make out yesterday? Nothing? 57 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:43,959 Speaker 5: The luck? 58 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 6: It all? 59 00:04:44,639 --> 00:04:47,639 Speaker 7: Nothing's going to help with my same description on the guy, 60 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,160 he used the same name, Samemo. Didn't get anything we 61 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,439 don't already know about him. How about you? 62 00:04:52,439 --> 00:04:52,759 Speaker 4: You're luck? 63 00:04:52,759 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 6: Anybody ooh, about the same. 64 00:04:55,079 --> 00:04:57,199 Speaker 4: Checked out the building with a suspect, rented office space, 65 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,879 he moved out three days ago. No forwarding address. Check 66 00:05:00,079 --> 00:05:02,160 the hotel he was supposed to be stopping at didn't pan. 67 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 6: Out, didn't time. Let's take his neck out again. Now, 68 00:05:04,519 --> 00:05:07,160 it doesn't guarantee we'll reach him too late to start. 69 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 4: When the complaints come in, we're gonna have to take 70 00:05:08,759 --> 00:05:10,519 up a faster way of getting to him. 71 00:05:10,519 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 6: Hey, you gott imagine? Yeah, sure, yeah, thanks. 72 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 7: Oh, by the way, I just heard about your partner 73 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:21,800 at Jacob's understand. 74 00:05:21,399 --> 00:05:24,439 Speaker 4: You're losing Oh yeah, temporarily anyway to do well. He's 75 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,000 going on a loan out up at the academy. It's 76 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,759 going to be an instructor up there. Two months anyway, 77 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,800 maybe more. When does this happen tomorrow? For tenth What. 78 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 6: Are you gonna do for a partner? You and Ken' 79 00:05:32,079 --> 00:05:32,639 gonna work again? 80 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 4: No, the Captain's bringing in the new man. Young fellow's 81 00:05:35,079 --> 00:05:36,240 been working in the business office. 82 00:05:36,519 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 6: I mean the big Irish kid works the early morning. 83 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 4: No, No, this boy's been working days names Bill Lockwood. 84 00:05:41,319 --> 00:05:42,600 I asked for him so as I found I was 85 00:05:42,639 --> 00:05:44,639 going to lose it. You know well a little bit. 86 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,800 Yeah you remember Ben ro Meryl. Yeah, sure, well Lockwood's 87 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,279 a nephew of Ben's sister's boy tall right here. 88 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:51,959 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I've seen him round it seems to be 89 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,160 a nice new kid and a good record hit or 90 00:05:54,199 --> 00:05:54,879 the captain thinks. 91 00:05:54,879 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 4: So figures he got to work in pretty well. 92 00:05:56,399 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 6: And by the way, have you seen Ben's wife? 93 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 4: Wait? Yeah, I did a couple of weeks ago. Seems 94 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,639 to be doing all right still missus Ben, of course. 95 00:06:02,759 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 8: Yeah. 96 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 6: I imagine the little boys shirt getting big. Looks a 97 00:06:05,759 --> 00:06:09,639 lot like his dad too, miss him quite a bit yourself. Yeah, Charlie, 98 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,319 I guess I do. Well, I'm better get on my horse. 99 00:06:12,519 --> 00:06:14,480 You get some check in to do. Now op the lock. 100 00:06:14,519 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 7: When boy works out for you, Well, I think you'll 101 00:06:16,199 --> 00:06:18,240 do all right, And say I'd be crazy about the 102 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,439 idea myself behind me breaking in a new man, no 103 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,839 detective experience, I go out. 104 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:24,439 Speaker 6: To pick up a thief. 105 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 7: I like to figure I've got some good backing. I mean, 106 00:06:26,639 --> 00:06:28,639 I'm a partner. I'm used to it. It's tough enough 107 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,800 watching out for yourself, let alone at green youngster. 108 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,639 Speaker 4: Well, somebody had to do it for us. That's the 109 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:35,240 way it goes. Yeah, I remember when I first studied. 110 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,879 It didn't come much greener in me. Partner did all 111 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,839 the work, took all the chances, helped me every further way. 112 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:41,879 Speaker 6: You never mentioned it once. 113 00:06:42,759 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 4: I never forgot that it's a good cop. 114 00:06:44,759 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 6: What was his name? Ben Romo. 115 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,879 Speaker 4: In a particular setup, before a man's eligible to apply 116 00:06:57,959 --> 00:07:00,160 for duty and the detective girl, he has to have 117 00:07:00,199 --> 00:07:02,879 a minimum or five years experience as a police officer, 118 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,240 either assigned to radio patrol, traffic duty, or some other 119 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,199 general assignment. After the initial five years of service, the 120 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,120 men go through a screening process to determine which department 121 00:07:13,199 --> 00:07:15,720 of which job they'll put and do best some positions 122 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,759 that they seem to show a natural aptitude corps. If 123 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,480 a man applies for duty and a division of the 124 00:07:20,519 --> 00:07:23,839 Detective Bureau, and if he's accepted, he's assigned a partner 125 00:07:23,879 --> 00:07:25,560 to work with the day he goes on the job, 126 00:07:25,839 --> 00:07:29,319 generally a working detective with some experience. In the case 127 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,319 of Ben's nephew, Bill Lockwood, he put in his first 128 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,600 five years working wheelshair traffic and also doing radio patrol 129 00:07:35,639 --> 00:07:38,839 in Holland beck in seventy seven street divisions. After spending 130 00:07:38,839 --> 00:07:41,759 another eleven months in our business office. Captain Steed put 131 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,800 in a request for him and he was transferred. When 132 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,480 I heard ed Jacobs was going to be loaned to 133 00:07:46,519 --> 00:07:49,079 the Police Academy as an instructor, I talked to Captain 134 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,920 Steed about Lockwood and he assigned him as my new partner. 135 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,560 The changeover happened in the middle of one of the 136 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,720 toughest investigations we'd had in months, a bunco artist who 137 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,800 was working hard at the Business Opportunities Racket. The following morning, 138 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,360 December tenth, Bill Lockwood reported in for work. When we 139 00:08:04,439 --> 00:08:06,600 grow about to check a potential lead on the suspect 140 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,519 on the way I laid out the case for him. 141 00:08:09,639 --> 00:08:11,199 Nothing on the men in r and I huh, no 142 00:08:11,279 --> 00:08:12,839 record at all. No, no, as far as me know, 143 00:08:12,959 --> 00:08:15,920 Bill check Brett up at Sacramento CII nothing doing there. 144 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,680 He couldn't help it. And what have you been growing on? 145 00:08:17,759 --> 00:08:20,160 His description? Yeah? That and his mo and his name. 146 00:08:20,439 --> 00:08:23,079 He uses a different alias on each job. Russell Pressed 147 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,279 and that was the last name in Youth. 148 00:08:24,519 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 6: I see. 149 00:08:25,519 --> 00:08:27,519 Speaker 4: He usually starts by putting a want ad in the paper. 150 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 5: Is that well? 151 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 4: He rents himself an office first, usually pretty expensive when 152 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,960 well furnished. Then he hires a good looking secretary, has 153 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,639 her put a want ad in the daily papers for him, 154 00:08:34,639 --> 00:08:36,279 and he's in business. And how do the ads are? 155 00:08:36,279 --> 00:08:38,679 As usual? Yeah, typical thing you see in the daily paper. 156 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,759 Business opportunity for people with vision, good investment, high profits 157 00:08:42,759 --> 00:08:44,960 applying out, you know. And then he gives his address 158 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,840 and phone numbers. There's nothing clever about it, but people 159 00:08:46,879 --> 00:08:48,720 still go for it. Can give them many replies. 160 00:08:48,759 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: Do you know? 161 00:08:49,519 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 4: Well, we figured he got between twenty and thirty on 162 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,799 that last daily pulled. Seems all he has to do 163 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,679 is land run victim out of the bunch with enough money, 164 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,679 and he's got it made. Took his first victim here 165 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,159 for five thousand, second one for thirty two hundred. The 166 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,080 Lively women took him for their last dollar. 167 00:09:02,799 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 7: About the way he sets up the deal with these 168 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,080 different businessmen, Joe, I don't think I got it quite straight, 169 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,759 you know what I mean? Well, I'll say the owner 170 00:09:08,799 --> 00:09:10,799 of that manufacturing plant is Russell Preston. 171 00:09:10,879 --> 00:09:13,759 Speaker 4: Lined up, you know, you say. Preston went to the plant. 172 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 7: Introduced himself as a business advisor, told the owner of 173 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,440 the plant he had some people with money to invest. 174 00:09:18,799 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 4: He convinced the owner who's legitimate. 175 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,639 Speaker 7: The other time and Preston had his two victims shown 176 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,519 through the plant and convinced him they ought to invest 177 00:09:24,519 --> 00:09:26,759 their money in the business. You know it's do you 178 00:09:26,799 --> 00:09:28,799 mean to say the plant owners were acting in good faith? 179 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 4: Well, they were all checked out Bill everything about him. 180 00:09:31,639 --> 00:09:34,240 They all have good business reputation. They didn't know any 181 00:09:34,279 --> 00:09:36,639 more about the deal and the victim. They needed more 182 00:09:36,639 --> 00:09:38,600 capital for their business, and they figured this was it. 183 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,279 Speaker 7: There's Preston or whatever his name is. Sure must have 184 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:42,279 a line that won't stop. 185 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 4: It's got everything that goes with it. Nice clothes, well mannered, 186 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,200 good looking. He doesn't try to high pressure. Anybody tells 187 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:49,799 him if they have confidence in him, he'd be glad 188 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,600 to invest their money if they had it all. He 189 00:09:51,639 --> 00:09:53,879 shows him right through the office. Pretty good pitch. 190 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,399 Speaker 6: Once they're sold on him, he's got him over a barrel. 191 00:09:56,399 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 4: It's about the size of it. 192 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,519 Speaker 7: You know, money, there's no record on him. Sure sounds 193 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:00,720 like he's had a lot of experience. 194 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 6: What are the other names he's used, you remember? 195 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 4: Well, just two of them we know of Russell R. 196 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,679 Preston and George a fairchild. I guess the newspapers have 197 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,159 been checked out. Huh ones he ran on? What ends did? Yeah, 198 00:10:11,279 --> 00:10:13,759 we've all been talked to, all their personal beant notified 199 00:10:13,759 --> 00:10:16,360 to have watch for ads of that type. Be one 200 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:17,679 way to get a lead on him if he try 201 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:18,039 it again. 202 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 7: Well, what about the buildings where we rented office space? 203 00:10:20,639 --> 00:10:22,120 Isn't the people their help any Well? 204 00:10:22,159 --> 00:10:25,039 Speaker 4: They confirmed his description. We picked up samples of his handwriting. 205 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,720 It's about it. He only rented the officers long enough 206 00:10:27,799 --> 00:10:31,120 to cover his deal about two weeks. See one hundred 207 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:31,759 block is just built. 208 00:10:31,799 --> 00:10:33,279 Speaker 6: And see over there, let's see you. 209 00:10:33,519 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, seventeen hundred. We want the next on eighteen eleven. 210 00:10:36,919 --> 00:10:39,240 Who's this woman we're gonna talk to? Vivian Castle? 211 00:10:39,279 --> 00:10:39,639 Speaker 6: All right? 212 00:10:39,759 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure if she's the right girl or not. 213 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,639 Got the lead from the employment agency. Chance she might 214 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,399 be the girl Preston hired to be a secretary. I 215 00:10:46,399 --> 00:10:49,360 don't know a good parting place up there ahead? 216 00:10:49,399 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 5: Huh yeah, that's good. 217 00:10:50,279 --> 00:11:01,279 Speaker 4: Pull up anywhere along here, it's fine. Two hours down 218 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,759 Joe Real Estate Office, eighteen Elevean. 219 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:12,519 Speaker 6: Sea, Good morning, good morning. 220 00:11:14,159 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 8: Can I help him? 221 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 4: Police officers? Man? We'd like to talk to him, Miss Castle, 222 00:11:17,159 --> 00:11:17,919 Vivian Castle. 223 00:11:18,159 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 8: Well, I'm Vivian Castle. 224 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 4: Where's our identification? This is my partner, Officer Lockwood. My 225 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:22,639 name is Friday. 226 00:11:22,639 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 8: How do you do? What is it you want? Officer? 227 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 4: We'd like to find out a few known George Fairchild Man. 228 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 8: Fairchild, No, I don't know anyone by that name. 229 00:11:30,639 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 7: How about a Russell Preston, Miss that I mean. 230 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:32,879 Speaker 6: Anything to you? 231 00:11:33,159 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 8: Oh? I used to work for mister Preston. 232 00:11:34,919 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 4: Russell Preston about how long ago was that? 233 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 8: One's a month and a half ago? 234 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 4: Where does he have his offices? 235 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 8: He did have him on South Grand near eight, the 236 00:11:43,159 --> 00:11:44,440 old Bill Montes Harris building. 237 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 4: Would you mind describing mister Preston for ust, ma'am? Just 238 00:11:47,159 --> 00:11:47,879 the general description? 239 00:11:48,159 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 8: Might he was about forty forty five years old, brown here, 240 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,559 a little gray, nice build, seem to be very nice 241 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,960 man at first, always dressed so nice word dark tousu 242 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,000 seemed to be very nice. 243 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,919 Speaker 6: Checks out so far, y'all now telling me what it's about. 244 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 4: Well, we'd like to locate mister Preston man. You only 245 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:03,919 idea where he is now? 246 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,279 Speaker 8: I wish I did. I'd call a State Labor commission. 247 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,240 It seemed like such a nice man. I've never been 248 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,759 so disappointed in my life. What do you mean he 249 00:12:10,799 --> 00:12:13,360 owes me two weeks to pay sixty five dollars a week? 250 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,840 I need's a private secretary. Good jobs aren't hard to 251 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,639 get now either. He can't say he's giving me a 252 00:12:18,639 --> 00:12:21,519 break when he hired And are you from the labor Commissions? 253 00:12:21,639 --> 00:12:23,279 Speaker 4: No, ma'am or not? Would you tell us how long 254 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:24,559 you work for this mister Preston? 255 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 8: Just three weeks? He said, I was going to get 256 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,320 paid every Friday. Give me the money for the first 257 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,840 week and that's all. Kept waiting for my pay, but 258 00:12:31,879 --> 00:12:34,200 he kept putting me off. Last week and a half, 259 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:35,639 he didn't even show up at the office. I was 260 00:12:35,639 --> 00:12:38,759 there all alone, eight hours a day. The building manager 261 00:12:38,799 --> 00:12:40,440 shut up and told me he was all over. The 262 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,279 person closed the office didn't mean you have the decency 263 00:12:43,279 --> 00:12:45,960 to come in and say thank you goodbry. I just left. 264 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 4: And you have no idea at oh where mister Preston 265 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:48,519 is now? 266 00:12:48,799 --> 00:12:49,759 Speaker 8: No, sir, I wish I did. 267 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,519 Speaker 7: Were there any office files, mail files anywhere to get 268 00:12:52,519 --> 00:12:54,000 a possible line on him? 269 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 8: As far as I know, I didn't keep any files 270 00:12:55,879 --> 00:12:57,919 for him, and in fact, I didn't do any work 271 00:12:57,919 --> 00:12:59,720 at all. It's the show piece. I guess that's all 272 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,759 he can't me. Therefore no reason why I shouldn't pay me, though, 273 00:13:03,159 --> 00:13:04,679 Are you sure you're not from the Labor Commission? 274 00:13:04,799 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 4: Did mister Preston ever? Have you place any want adds 275 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,519 in the daily papers missus Castle? 276 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 8: M Yeah, he did a couple of times ads for 277 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,679 business opportunities. You know, he was in the investment business, 278 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:14,879 helped people invest in money. 279 00:13:15,039 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 4: Would you have to know anyone who invested money with him? 280 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:18,320 I mean, would you know him by name? 281 00:13:18,799 --> 00:13:20,919 Speaker 8: No? Not by name. Quite a few people came through 282 00:13:20,919 --> 00:13:22,679 the office. I know a few of them made deals 283 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,840 with mister Preston. I wouldn't remember their names, though. 284 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:26,639 Speaker 7: And you don't know any friends he might have had 285 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,399 in town, any of his business associates. 286 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,279 Speaker 8: No, they're not a one. I didn't know he had 287 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:31,080 any associates. 288 00:13:31,159 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 4: How about where he was staying in this castle? You 289 00:13:32,759 --> 00:13:33,320 must have known that. 290 00:13:33,799 --> 00:13:35,919 Speaker 8: Yeah, the first weeks I was there, I did the 291 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,960 only week I got paid for him. He was staying 292 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,240 at a small hotel on South far The next week though, 293 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,120 I don't know where he went after that, neither just 294 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:43,519 the hotel. 295 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,919 Speaker 4: I asked him, well, during the time you worked for him, man, 296 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,399 did you ever have anything to do with mister Preston socially? 297 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:49,960 I mean, was it part of your job? You bought 298 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,120 to dinner with him? Things like that? Yeah? 299 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:53,879 Speaker 8: I did once or twice. When he asked him, I 300 00:13:53,919 --> 00:13:56,159 didn't think he was part of my job. So the 301 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,000 Preston didn't mention it either. Once we went out to 302 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,320 dinner just the tourists. Now, the time he went out 303 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,480 with my girlfriend, Norma, I had a terrible kind mister 304 00:14:02,519 --> 00:14:03,279 Preston was awful. 305 00:14:03,519 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 4: How do you mean? 306 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 8: Well, he thanked too much and was throwing his way around, 307 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,879 you know, the bus, making a play for my girlfriend Norma. 308 00:14:09,879 --> 00:14:13,559 I think he liked her quite a bit. She was embarrassing, though. Look, 309 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,240 would you mind telling me what's the matter. Is mister 310 00:14:15,279 --> 00:14:16,399 Preston in trouble with the police. 311 00:14:16,519 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 4: Yes, Ma'a'm afraid so she did some people out of 312 00:14:18,879 --> 00:14:20,480 quite a bit of money. It's not the first time. 313 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 8: Either, Hey, what was it? Would you do? 314 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 4: Confidence scheme? Selling interest in the company he had no 315 00:14:24,279 --> 00:14:24,759 connection with? 316 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,559 Speaker 8: That is a no limits. I guess it's my own thought. 317 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,480 I shouldn't nun where it's happened before. Well, they hire you, 318 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,480 they give you a beautiful office and I soft chair 319 00:14:32,559 --> 00:14:34,360 to sit on, and never give you any work to do. 320 00:14:34,879 --> 00:14:36,720 Don't have to live to finger. I finally got the j. 321 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the kind you have to watch out for, 322 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,399 Bill Lockwood and't. I continued questioning the former secretary of 323 00:14:45,519 --> 00:14:48,840 Russell Preston alias George Fairchild, but she was unable to 324 00:14:48,879 --> 00:14:50,559 come up with any kind of a definite lead as 325 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,320 to the suspects. Whereabout We left our card with a 326 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,320 girl and she promised to contact us in the event 327 00:14:55,399 --> 00:14:58,720 she came across any information regarding Preston. For the rest 328 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,000 of the day, we ran down three more possible leads. 329 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,440 They came from an informant, a head waiter in the 330 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,480 second rate nightclub, a small time drifter with an extra grind, 331 00:15:06,679 --> 00:15:08,639 and they all figured they had the right answer where 332 00:15:08,639 --> 00:15:09,399 to find Preston. 333 00:15:10,159 --> 00:15:11,159 Speaker 6: We checked out the three. 334 00:15:11,039 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 4: Locations they gave us a motel out near Santa Monica, 335 00:15:14,039 --> 00:15:17,200 a rooming house in Hollywood, a cocktail lounge, and Highland Park. 336 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,200 Not one of the three paid off. Russell Preston alias 337 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,519 George Fairchild wasn't known at any of the places. Either 338 00:15:22,559 --> 00:15:26,600 by name, dress, or physical description. During the next three weeks, 339 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,720 along with Sergeants Charlie Riblet and Ken Scarce of Bunco Detail, 340 00:15:29,879 --> 00:15:32,039 Bill Lockwood and I ran down every possible lead on 341 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,519 the suspect hotels, the want ed departments of the daily papers, 342 00:15:35,799 --> 00:15:40,279 managers of downtown office buildings, secretarial employment agencies, small businesses, 343 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,879 advertising stock for sale. They got us nothing, despite all 344 00:15:43,919 --> 00:15:46,600 the precautions in all the lake work. On January sixth, 345 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,480 we got a call from a missus Marie Barrett in 346 00:15:48,519 --> 00:15:50,919 the West Lake Park area. She owned and managed the 347 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,279 toy shop just off Wiltshire Boulevard. Bill Lockwood and I 348 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:55,240 drove out to talk to her. 349 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 9: Yeah, they told me it was the opportunity of a lifetime, 350 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,000 a big opportunity, and I just can't believe it. 351 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 4: I can't understand it. 352 00:16:02,039 --> 00:16:03,879 Speaker 9: Why even took me out and showed me the fast tree, 353 00:16:04,159 --> 00:16:06,679 get him the man around the place they're making plastics. 354 00:16:06,399 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 6: Showed me the whole plant. 355 00:16:07,759 --> 00:16:09,159 Speaker 4: Said the plant was out in Glendale. 356 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,159 Speaker 9: Now what about It was right along with fan Cananda Road, 357 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:13,759 maybe a mile or two before you get to the 358 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:14,279 Air Force. 359 00:16:14,919 --> 00:16:16,039 Speaker 8: They showed me to the whole plant. 360 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 4: Who showed your films there owner of. 361 00:16:18,159 --> 00:16:20,799 Speaker 9: The place in this, mister Fairchild, a big place making 362 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:21,919 plastics of all kinds. 363 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:23,399 Speaker 8: There was a new prince. 364 00:16:23,759 --> 00:16:25,879 Speaker 4: What was mister Fairchild's first name? Do you remember? 365 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,759 Speaker 9: George? George Fairchild an associates. That was the name of 366 00:16:28,799 --> 00:16:30,000 the door of the office when I went up to 367 00:16:30,039 --> 00:16:32,200 see him. Of course, I really didn't have a notion 368 00:16:32,279 --> 00:16:33,120 to invest any money. 369 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 4: When I first went up. 370 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,919 Speaker 9: It was a newspaper edge, you know, And I answered 371 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,639 lots of kind of a hobby with me. 372 00:16:37,799 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 8: Yes. 373 00:16:38,799 --> 00:16:40,679 Speaker 9: So when it to see him, and we talked, and 374 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,879 as I say, I wasn't thinking of investing any money, 375 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,080 but mister Fairchild seemed like such a nice man, seemed 376 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,360 to have a good business head on his shoulders. Well 377 00:16:48,759 --> 00:16:50,879 ended up with me putting my whole seatingsoccown into the 378 00:16:50,879 --> 00:16:52,919 plastics plant six thousand. 379 00:16:52,679 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 4: Four hundred dollars, every tenny of us. I hadn't heard 380 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:56,559 from mister Fairchild, sink. 381 00:16:56,919 --> 00:16:57,799 Speaker 6: I just don't know what to think. 382 00:16:57,879 --> 00:16:59,799 Speaker 4: I can't understand it. Do you have any idea where 383 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,840 to contact this Fairchild now? And he address telephone number? 384 00:17:03,039 --> 00:17:05,599 Speaker 9: Well, I called his office. It's in the Oxford Exchange building. 385 00:17:06,039 --> 00:17:08,720 There's no answer though they fas is connected. I've been 386 00:17:08,759 --> 00:17:11,000 trying for a week to contact mister Fairchild. I mean, 387 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,160 six thousand and four hundred dollars. I just don't know 388 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,079 what to do. All my savings, I don't know what 389 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,880 to do. M excuse me, please, customer, I can't afford. 390 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 6: It, mister sale. Now, yes, ma'am, you've right ahead. 391 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:21,799 Speaker 9: Hell and you've help that lady. 392 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 4: Please. Looks like he scored again. 393 00:17:23,559 --> 00:17:23,759 Speaker 6: Huh. 394 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:24,599 Speaker 4: I wouldn't die it. 395 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 6: She seems to do a fair business here, huh. 396 00:17:27,079 --> 00:17:30,079 Speaker 4: I mean after Christmas and all. Yeah, I suppose of 397 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:31,640 course the women go for it. You hang up a 398 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,400 sales sign. You can't beat them off with a club. 399 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,960 See this gadget here? Pretty clever? 400 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 6: Huh yeah, minister Sherman tank? 401 00:17:39,039 --> 00:17:39,599 Speaker 4: What's it due? 402 00:17:39,759 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 6: Watch? Don't know? 403 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 4: Well? How about that? 404 00:17:45,279 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 6: Pretty cute, isn't it. 405 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 7: Cannon's on the side, Spark's coming out, and after you've 406 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,279 got one for Christmas, you. 407 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:51,039 Speaker 6: Got a lot of power. 408 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,599 Speaker 4: Try to climb over just about anything. 409 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:53,079 Speaker 6: Uh huh? 410 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 8: Alright, to keep you waiting if there's customer's after. 411 00:17:56,279 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 4: You tenant to surely we understand now about this money 412 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,200 you gave Fairchild and this bad the sixty four hundred dollars. 413 00:18:01,279 --> 00:18:02,960 How'd you work that? I mean, did you give him 414 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:03,839 a check or how'd you do it? 415 00:18:04,079 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 8: Yes? 416 00:18:04,279 --> 00:18:05,839 Speaker 9: I gave him a check, let's cash. The same day 417 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,079 I gave it to him. I found that out from 418 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:07,400 the bank. 419 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 4: What was he was supposed to get for your money? Man? 420 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 9: Interest in the plastics company? 421 00:18:11,279 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 4: One fifth interest? 422 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 9: Seemed like such a good idea at the time. 423 00:18:14,319 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 4: Did you ever discuss the deal with the owners of 424 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,599 the plastics company? I mean when mister Fairchild wasn't around. 425 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 9: No, I guess I never did. Mister Fairchild didn't think 426 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,200 it was a good idea. Said he wanted me to 427 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,119 get the most for my money. Said he was afraid 428 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,880 of the company owners. Talked to him alone, he might 429 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,279 argue me to take him this profit. 430 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 4: He didn't want me to talk to him at all. 431 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,079 If he wasn't around, and you weren't suspicious of him 432 00:18:32,079 --> 00:18:32,279 at all. 433 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 9: Huh, mister fairy Child, Oh, very nice man. There are 434 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,039 few things he did. It made me a little uncertain. 435 00:18:38,079 --> 00:18:40,000 But he always explained everything to him. He always had 436 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,079 a good reason for everything he did. Nice man, clean cut, 437 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,079 well addressed, beautiful manners. They never take him for anything 438 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:46,640 but a gentleman. 439 00:18:47,079 --> 00:18:47,839 Speaker 8: You see what I mean? 440 00:18:48,039 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 6: What do you mean him? 441 00:18:48,799 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 4: Yes? 442 00:18:49,079 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 9: Not just a perfect gentleman. 443 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 4: I don't know what to think. 444 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,559 Speaker 9: I can't call him a crook. He just isn't the kind. 445 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 6: Well, they took your money, was there? 446 00:18:55,400 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 4: What else would you call him? Two eighteen PM, when 447 00:19:01,519 --> 00:19:04,160 we got through interviewing the latest victim, Marie Barrett, Bill 448 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,319 Lockwood and I drove out to the plastics company on 449 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,839 San Fernando Road, where we talked to the owner and manager. 450 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,759 The story was pretty much the same. The suspect, using 451 00:19:11,799 --> 00:19:13,960 the name of George Fairchild, had called on them three 452 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,839 weeks before, introducing himself as an investment counselor. He told 453 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,720 them he had clients with money to invest in the 454 00:19:19,759 --> 00:19:22,319 growing industry, such as theirs, and they went for the story. 455 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,200 They told us Fairchild had come back to her three 456 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,599 times with different persons whom he introduced as his clients. 457 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,240 They'd been shown through the plastics plant and given a 458 00:19:30,319 --> 00:19:33,039 sales talk. That's about all the company owners could tell us. 459 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,400 When we got back to the office, we checked their 460 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,559 names through the regular business channels and found out they 461 00:19:37,599 --> 00:19:40,720 were reputable businessmen. It was nothing to indicate that they 462 00:19:40,759 --> 00:19:44,200 had anything to do with the suspects bunco Operations four 463 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:48,480 thirty pm. Joe, Yeah, girl out. 464 00:19:48,319 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 7: Here to see us and when he used to be 465 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,880 Preston's secretary of Vivian Castle Again she said what she wanted. 466 00:19:53,079 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 4: No, seems a little anxious. 467 00:19:54,759 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 8: Oh sir, I'm glad I found Gene. 468 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 6: Oh are you miss Castle? 469 00:19:57,319 --> 00:19:59,039 Speaker 8: Mr? I was going to phone you, but I couldn't 470 00:19:59,039 --> 00:20:01,200 even do your number, lost the card you game, so 471 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,640 I decided to come down. You remember talking to me, 472 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,079 don't you about mister Preston my over Have you heard 473 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,559 from Heim? No? I haven't. But you remember me telling 474 00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:11,240 me about my girlfriend Norma. I mean the time mister 475 00:20:11,279 --> 00:20:13,640 Preston took me up. Norman and our boyfriend were wizuses, 476 00:20:14,559 --> 00:20:17,759 the way mister Preston kept making a play for Norma. Well, 477 00:20:17,799 --> 00:20:19,880 I saw Norma at lunchtime today, first time in week. 478 00:20:20,559 --> 00:20:22,400 She told me she got a call from mister Preston. 479 00:20:22,519 --> 00:20:24,039 I told her I'd tell you all about it. She's 480 00:20:24,039 --> 00:20:26,119 got a date with him dinner Friday night. 481 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,559 Speaker 3: You are listening to drag met authentic stories of your 482 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:41,640 police force and action. 483 00:20:49,839 --> 00:20:54,519 Speaker 4: Wednesday, January sixth, four fifty PM. We called Vivian Castle's girlfriend, 484 00:20:54,559 --> 00:20:56,680 Norma Cummings, and then we drove out to talk to her. 485 00:20:57,079 --> 00:20:59,680 The Commings girl told us that Russell Preston the telephone 486 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,920 that morning and made the date with her for Friday 487 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,039 night at seven point thirty. He said they were to 488 00:21:04,079 --> 00:21:06,119 have dinner at a nightclub out in the Wiltshire district. 489 00:21:06,519 --> 00:21:08,160 He also mentioned to her that he was staying in 490 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,559 a hotel, but she didn't know the name of the location. 491 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,079 We made arrangements for a stake out at Norma cummings apartment. 492 00:21:14,599 --> 00:21:18,319 The girl agreed to cooperate with us. Thursday, January seventh, 493 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,440 we checked with a personnel at the different restaurants, bars, 494 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,960 and nightclubs which Preston and the Commings girl were to visit. 495 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,559 Some of them remembered Preston, but as far as they knew, 496 00:21:26,599 --> 00:21:29,160 he hadn't been back. We left our cards with each 497 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,000 one of them and we asked him to contact us 498 00:21:31,039 --> 00:21:34,440 if he should return. Just after lunch on Friday, we 499 00:21:34,559 --> 00:21:36,279 got a phone call from Norma Cummings. 500 00:21:36,559 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 6: When was that miss? Did you find out where he was? 501 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:42,599 Speaker 4: I see? 502 00:21:43,839 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 6: Will you be there for the rest of the day? 503 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 8: No? 504 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,079 Speaker 4: I fine, Yeah, we'll call you back goodbye. 505 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,839 Speaker 7: Yeah, Cummings girl, she's at work. She just had a 506 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,000 phone call from Preston. She tried to find out where 507 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,440 he was. No girl, what he had to say dinner day? 508 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:57,160 He had with her at night? 509 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 6: Now he call it off. 510 00:22:00,759 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 4: Later that afternoon we went out and talked to the 511 00:22:02,759 --> 00:22:05,200 Cummings girl. She told us Pressed and explained on the 512 00:22:05,279 --> 00:22:07,279 phone that he had to cancel a date that night 513 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,480 because of some business deal it had come up. He 514 00:22:09,559 --> 00:22:11,400 told her he'd get in touch with her over the weekend. 515 00:22:11,759 --> 00:22:14,640 He didn't. By Thursday of the following week, she still 516 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,000 hadn't heard from him. Two days later, on a Saturday afternoon, 517 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,039 we got a call from one of the cocktail lounges. 518 00:22:20,079 --> 00:22:22,880 Pressed and had visited. The bartender remembered us being in 519 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,440 there to inquire about the suspect, and he'd saved our card. 520 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,319 He said Preston was there now with another man drinking 521 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,759 at the bar. We asked the bartender to try and 522 00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:33,119 delay the suspect as long as possible, and we got 523 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,440 in the car and drove to the location. It was 524 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,960 too late. The bartender explained that he tried to delay 525 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,119 the man that he thought was Preston, but he didn't 526 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,440 have much luck. The suspect had left a few minutes 527 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,279 after the bartender had called us. He'd been drinking heavily. 528 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,200 The man Presston had been with was still there. He 529 00:22:48,319 --> 00:22:50,160 was sitting at an old upright piano in the back 530 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:51,599 of the place, trying to pick out a tune with 531 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,480 one finger. Hill and I went back and talked to him. 532 00:22:55,279 --> 00:22:57,039 He gave his name as Fred Sandel. 533 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right. I was drinking of a fellow. Why smile. 534 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,160 You never seen a man before? Yeah, once or twice 535 00:23:08,839 --> 00:23:10,720 I place up the streets seven eight. 536 00:23:11,079 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 5: I had a couple of. 537 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,839 Speaker 6: Drinks with him. Man, you know his name? What's the 538 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:16,759 angle you want him for? 539 00:23:16,839 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 9: Something? 540 00:23:17,519 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 4: Was just a routine check. 541 00:23:18,519 --> 00:23:21,079 Speaker 6: We'd like to talk to him. Oh, I don't know. 542 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,039 I might know his name. Yeah, well, well, what's the 543 00:23:25,079 --> 00:23:26,400 angle on the thing you want him for? 544 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 4: Something? 545 00:23:26,759 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 6: Vague? 546 00:23:27,039 --> 00:23:27,799 Speaker 4: They want to talk to him? 547 00:23:27,839 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 6: That's eyes something like that. Hey, he didn't look like 548 00:23:31,279 --> 00:23:34,720 that kind of guy. I was he thinking that we 549 00:23:34,759 --> 00:23:35,640 couldn't get that name. 550 00:23:37,599 --> 00:23:38,079 Speaker 5: How about it? 551 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,519 Speaker 6: You say you might know the man's name, what was it? Well, 552 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,960 I don't know. I'm not sure if I'm the one 553 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:44,680 that I intended. 554 00:23:44,759 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 5: What do you mean? 555 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 10: Well, I don't want to get anybody in trouble. I 556 00:23:48,079 --> 00:23:51,079 want to give out names. What's the angle on him? 557 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 4: You want him for something? Biger make enough you? 558 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:54,079 Speaker 6: Oh? 559 00:23:55,799 --> 00:23:57,839 Speaker 10: Well, his name's prest him. I think if that's the 560 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,839 name he gave me. Anyway, I went on bars in 561 00:24:00,839 --> 00:24:02,200 the neighborhood that once in a while. 562 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:03,839 Speaker 4: How much you know about it? 563 00:24:04,799 --> 00:24:06,519 Speaker 6: Much? I have a few drinks so that now, then 564 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,079 talk a little bit. That's about all. 565 00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:12,279 Speaker 10: Where'd you say your name was Samdell? Fred Samdell? Well, 566 00:24:12,319 --> 00:24:14,319 what's the angle on this Preston? We want to get 567 00:24:14,319 --> 00:24:14,839 in touch with him? 568 00:24:14,839 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 4: You know? 569 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,559 Speaker 6: I know I might I go on for something big 570 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:19,920 in them? 571 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 10: Or what's the difference we want him? Well, there could 572 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,079 be a lot of difference. I mean, what's the angle. 573 00:24:26,519 --> 00:24:29,000 If it's important to you and I helped you, you 574 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,359 probably won't do the right thing. 575 00:24:30,519 --> 00:24:30,759 Speaker 6: Huh. 576 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 4: I don't know if I got you right? 577 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,799 Speaker 10: Well, I mean, if you if you really want the guy, 578 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,920 you know I it's important to you and I helped 579 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,759 you reaching you, you'd want to make it square with me, 580 00:24:39,799 --> 00:24:40,160 would't you? 581 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 8: Not? 582 00:24:42,319 --> 00:24:44,759 Speaker 6: That I'm asked for payoff? You understand that. 583 00:24:44,839 --> 00:24:48,079 Speaker 10: Yeah, we understand where's Preston lived. Well, I didn't say 584 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,240 I knew where the guy lives. I didn't say that. 585 00:24:55,279 --> 00:24:59,079 Speaker 6: I'm not sure, am I? I don't know if I'll 586 00:24:59,119 --> 00:24:59,359 tell you? 587 00:25:00,279 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 4: Do you want to stand by here? Bill? I better 588 00:25:01,759 --> 00:25:02,160 check yet? 589 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 5: Yeah? 590 00:25:02,519 --> 00:25:03,559 Speaker 6: Fine, okay. 591 00:25:29,079 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 11: Any two six, two five five, I could be. 592 00:25:37,319 --> 00:25:40,519 Speaker 4: Ron and yeah, John, This is Joe Friday bunco. Yeah Friday, 593 00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:42,960 I to check on the suspect. John. He gives the 594 00:25:43,039 --> 00:25:46,160 name of Fred Sandel. He's a wm A, about forty 595 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,319 five five f ten hundred and seventy pounds, brown hair, 596 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,440 brown eyes, ready complexion, small scar just below the left ear. 597 00:25:53,759 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 2: Okay, I'll go to call you. 598 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 4: Back on that. Yeah, would you please? I'm a Dunkirk 599 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,400 three five oh one six right, I'll call you. Thanks, well, 600 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,559 say John, you switch me over the bunkle please, I'm 601 00:26:03,559 --> 00:26:04,319 part from outside. 602 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, hang on, thank you? 603 00:26:09,279 --> 00:26:10,079 Speaker 4: Would you want to. 604 00:26:10,079 --> 00:26:12,079 Speaker 6: Switch this call over the bunk on detail? Please? 605 00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: Unco rilin? 606 00:26:15,799 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 4: Joe Friday, Jobby anything doing? Oh yeah, Joe quite a bit. 607 00:26:18,319 --> 00:26:20,279 And that suspect of yours wrestled Preston. 608 00:26:20,519 --> 00:26:21,039 Speaker 5: Been picked up? 609 00:26:21,559 --> 00:26:23,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, how'd that happen? Radio car picking up? 610 00:26:23,799 --> 00:26:25,519 Speaker 2: Eight in South Grand drunk charge. 611 00:26:25,559 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 7: I understand it's pretty well plastered, running around the middle 612 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,440 of the street, had quite a bit of money on 613 00:26:29,559 --> 00:26:30,880 him and brought him into Robert good question. 614 00:26:31,039 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 4: Well you're sure as Preston. 615 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 7: Description checks a couple of sets of identification owning too, 616 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,440 one for Russell Preston, one. 617 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 11: For George fairchow where they got him out next door 618 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:39,839 interrogation room. 619 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,319 Speaker 6: Ken scarcely talking to him. 620 00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:42,599 Speaker 2: He's dropping iron to the jobs. 621 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 4: Key Chowie, thanks a lot, we'll be right here it well, 622 00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:55,000 see a minute, Yeah, you might as well check in. 623 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,160 Preston has been picked up when probably just after you 624 00:26:58,279 --> 00:26:59,880 left this bar, radio car spotted him. 625 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 6: Man, how about that? 626 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 7: You know, you work two months in a case and 627 00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:05,720 just when we start to get close, somebody else picks 628 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:06,160 the guy up. 629 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,799 Speaker 10: You know, it's right, it's not very exciting, you know. 630 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,599 I was just thinking, Oh, I don't want to be 631 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,759 a hoardhead about this thing, you know. I mean, if 632 00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:16,279 you want this guy presson, i'd be glad I help 633 00:27:16,319 --> 00:27:17,720 you find I don't want to be a hot head. 634 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 11: Excuse me a minute, Yeah, John, Yeah, I gotta make 635 00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:33,160 on that name you asked for friend sent down there's 636 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,079 a on him. 637 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 6: And theft, all though, got to put a long record. 638 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,000 You want me to read it? 639 00:27:37,079 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 4: All though? That's all right, John, right, right, right, thank you? 640 00:27:45,839 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 6: Why do you say so? 641 00:27:46,599 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 10: I don't suppose to sit down and have a drink 642 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,160 and talk things over, and I'll show you where I. 643 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 6: Think this person hangs out. 644 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,279 Speaker 4: I mean, if we make make the right deal. Well, 645 00:27:55,319 --> 00:27:56,720 it's already been made. Do you want to grab your 646 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,759 top coat? There? We'd like to talk to you downtown me. 647 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,279 Speaker 6: What what are you talking about? 648 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 10: Grand theft auto? They want you a mystery? Wait a minute, 649 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,000 you made a mistake. You didn't come in here looking 650 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,119 for me. You know the even the side of my 651 00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:08,839 case for this ain't fair. 652 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 4: Get your code. 653 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 6: Let's go. Oh but the same thing. You're coming here 654 00:28:11,799 --> 00:28:13,519 look for Preston. You didn't want me. We do know 655 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,279 what kind of deals you call that you're looking for Preston. 656 00:28:16,319 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 4: You picked me up. 657 00:28:18,079 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 6: What's the angle? 658 00:28:18,759 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 4: There's no angle. Some days you got to settle for less. 659 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:30,359 That's all, Come on, let's go. The story you have 660 00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:33,720 just heard was true. The names were changed to protect 661 00:28:33,759 --> 00:28:34,240 the innocent. 662 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 3: On April fifth, trial was held in Superior Court Department 663 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,559 eighty nine city in County of Los Angeles, State of California. 664 00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:52,079 Speaker 5: In a moment the results of that trial. Russell R. 665 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,039 Speaker 3: Preston alias George Fairchild alias Robert Fairchild was tried and 666 00:28:56,119 --> 00:28:59,599 convicted on three counts of grand theft. Fred Sandel was 667 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,200 tried convicted of grand theft one count. Both men received 668 00:29:03,319 --> 00:29:06,559 sentences as prescribed by law. They are now serving their 669 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,440 terms in the State Penitentiary San Quentin, California. Grand theft 670 00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:13,599 is punishable by imprisonment for not less than one nor 671 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:25,319 more than ten years. You have just heard Dragnet a 672 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,359 series of authentic cases from official files. Technical advice comes 673 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,599 from the Office of Chief of Police W. H. Parker, 674 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:36,240 Los Angeles Police Department Technical advisors Captain Jack Donahoe, Sergeant 675 00:29:36,279 --> 00:29:40,720 Marty Wynn, Sergeant Vans Braser. Heard tonight were Martin Milner, Marion, 676 00:29:40,839 --> 00:29:45,480 Richmond Bick Rodman. Script by Jim Mosy, music by Walter Schumann, 677 00:29:45,799 --> 00:29:47,200 hel Gidney speaking. 678 00:30:09,119 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 5: Now It's counter Spy on NBC. 679 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:24,319 Speaker 1: Welcome Back. The idea of Bill Lockwood as Friday's partner 680 00:30:24,839 --> 00:30:29,319 is probably the one of the more dramatic character ideas 681 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:35,200 that Dragnet ever had for one of their place characters, 682 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:41,759 with Friday shifting into being a mentor and helping bring 683 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:48,920 up a new generation of detectives, passing on what had 684 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,240 been given to him, and have kept the spirit of 685 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,000 Ben Romero alive. It would have been an ongoing nod 686 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:03,839 to the show's Jenneson and its first partner. Looking even 687 00:31:04,079 --> 00:31:08,720 further down the line, it also might have provided Jack 688 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:13,519 Webb with an exit route from the series Web wanted 689 00:31:13,599 --> 00:31:18,119 to in the TV version of Dragnet after one hundred episodes. 690 00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:23,000 He had the idea of Friday being promoted and serving 691 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:28,559 as a mentor figure to younger officers. Now, the network 692 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:34,680 was at that point not particularly interested in replacing the 693 00:31:35,559 --> 00:31:41,079 star of one of its biggest hits with young, unknown actors. However, 694 00:31:41,319 --> 00:31:44,759 if Martin Milner had two or three seasons under his 695 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:51,359 belt playing Friday's partner, and Milner was a very solid 696 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:56,440 actor capable of carrying a television series himself, it might 697 00:31:56,519 --> 00:32:00,519 have been easier to pitch the network on having Friday 698 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:05,559 promoted and Bill Lockwood becoming the main character with a 699 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:10,400 new partner. It's a case where it would have, one 700 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:16,559 way or another changed the history of American television. I'm 701 00:32:16,599 --> 00:32:18,960 not saying it would be better or worse, but it 702 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,920 would definitely have been different. But this is a case 703 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:30,160 where America's military efforts interfered as Milner was drafted. Now, 704 00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:38,119 Milner would actually continue to make mostly uncredited appearances on radio. 705 00:32:38,599 --> 00:32:44,359 In Dragnet Web ran a tot schedule with them also 706 00:32:44,599 --> 00:32:48,160 having to get television done at the same time, and 707 00:32:48,359 --> 00:32:54,599 they recorded two episodes per day on Sundays, and when 708 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,839 Milner could, he got a pass, came down and would 709 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:04,759 actually earn a month's pay in playing in both episodes 710 00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:09,079 that ended up being released. Those who knew Milner considered 711 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:14,119 him really a working actor. He had some important parts 712 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,799 of those two big television series that I mentioned already, 713 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:23,359 as well as Swiss Family Robinson, which only lasted a season. 714 00:33:23,759 --> 00:33:28,319 He was a dedicated, hard working performer, loved his family, 715 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:33,279 and he also really truly loved fishing. He pretty much 716 00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:37,240 had retired from acting by the mid nineteen nineties, but 717 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:43,319 in nineteen ninety three he began hosting a radio program 718 00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:48,960 in San Diego on the weekends called Let's Talk Hookup, 719 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,920 a fishing talk show, and was very active in the 720 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,440 fishing community and by all accounts for those who met 721 00:33:56,519 --> 00:34:00,000 him He was a very good guy to go fishing 722 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,880 with by all accounts, an outstanding individual, very good actor, 723 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:10,159 who would play a major role in the sort of 724 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:15,440 tried net extended universe. I guess with Adam twelve, but 725 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,639 might have had a different future on the main series 726 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:23,039 had some other things gone differently. Then I do want 727 00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:27,280 to go ahead and talk a little bit about Fred Sandel. 728 00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:33,199 He might be even more foolish than guys in the 729 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,840 Big Border. At least they believed a common myth about 730 00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:43,760 border crossing and being home free in Mexico. Fred was 731 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:50,079 such a genius that he essentially called attention to himself 732 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:57,079 and affected his own imprisonment for grand theft. Whereas had 733 00:34:57,119 --> 00:35:00,760 he given a generic answer like oh, I could help 734 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,079 you out, but honestly, we were just having a drink. 735 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,199 I've never met him before. All he managed to do 736 00:35:08,519 --> 00:35:13,239 was to get Friday to call R and I, because 737 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:20,159 apparently he was operating under the supposition that if Friday 738 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,639 was investigating this bunk o caase, that was pretty much 739 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,840 all he was concerned with. And of course you'll hear 740 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:32,679 on various dramatic shows that police officers saying I'm not 741 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,920 really concerned about whatever minor crime you're doing as I'm 742 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:44,000 investigating this other crime, and that may happen in real life, 743 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,320 but in this case, Sandell found himself a very nice 744 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,719 consolation prize. And of course this episode was also a 745 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,079 bit of a lesson for Bill Lockwood, and it suggests 746 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,039 some of the things that the series might have done 747 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,119 in terms of him learning on their job and learning 748 00:36:04,199 --> 00:36:08,800 what it's like, and the simple lesson that just because 749 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,239 you put in the like working you did all of 750 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,079 this doesn't guarantee that you're going to be in on 751 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:20,719 the capture. You're part of a tame and sometimes you 752 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,639 put months into an investigation and have very little to 753 00:36:25,039 --> 00:36:30,079 do with the way that it ends up. Concluding all right, well, 754 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,320 now it's time to think our Patreon supporter of the 755 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,000 day and I want to thank Pam, Patreon supporter since 756 00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:41,440 February twenty twenty four, currently supporting the podcast at the 757 00:36:41,679 --> 00:36:45,079 Detective Sergeant level of seven dollars and fourteen cents or 758 00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:48,199 more per month. Thanks so much for your support, Pam, 759 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,920 and that will do it for today. If you're enjoying 760 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,440 the podcast, please follow us using your favorite podcast software 761 00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:58,679 and be sure to rate and review the podcast. Wherever 762 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,679 you download it from. We will be back next Thursday 763 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,639 with another episode of Dragging Net, but join us on 764 00:37:06,159 --> 00:37:10,559 Friday for yours truly Johnny, it all our where will mister? 765 00:37:12,559 --> 00:37:15,639 Speaker 6: Yes, sir, that's very interesting. 766 00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 2: I beg your pardon. 767 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 8: What's the matter? 768 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,119 Speaker 7: Don't you good? I said, that's very interesting. 769 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 8: You see, my name is. 770 00:37:22,039 --> 00:37:24,280 Speaker 6: Carsh No, no, you miss? 771 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 8: What can I do for you? 772 00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:27,760 Speaker 4: Mister cash? No, listen with you? 773 00:37:28,039 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 2: This is Johnny Dollar. 774 00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 8: Oh now, what's the. 775 00:37:31,519 --> 00:37:33,079 Speaker 7: Idea of trying to confuse me that way? 776 00:37:33,639 --> 00:37:39,559 Speaker 4: I'm Carshwright, you remember, Yes, sir, and Johnny, how did 777 00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:39,920 you do it? 778 00:37:40,679 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 8: Do? What? 779 00:37:41,519 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 4: Get out here so fast? I only put in that 780 00:37:44,639 --> 00:37:47,000 called a Hartford about and here you are? 781 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 7: I mean, how did you manage it? 782 00:37:49,519 --> 00:37:49,639 Speaker 10: Oh? 783 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,599 Speaker 6: Well, you see, mister, I know these new jet. 784 00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:53,760 Speaker 10: Flights are pretty fast. 785 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,679 Speaker 4: But Johnny, you haven't been fooling around with some of 786 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,039 those rocket ships. 787 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm afraid not. 788 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 2: I I just happened to be here already. 789 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 6: You see. 790 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 5: I was working on a case of at Marrow Bay. 791 00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:09,599 Speaker 4: And did you talk? Yeah? It came out all right. 792 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:14,039 Speaker 7: Well, congratulations, Johnny, you are a one day and I 793 00:38:14,199 --> 00:38:16,719 think you deserve some kind of a reward for it, 794 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,159 So maybe I'll think of something. 795 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,559 Speaker 6: Oh well, thanks, but that won't be necessary what you say. 796 00:38:23,199 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 4: I know that I'm deeply indebted to you for the 797 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,039 things you've done for me. Johnny, Well, I don't worry. 798 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 8: About it whatever you say. 799 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:31,519 Speaker 7: Guys, you've talked to you. 800 00:38:32,039 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: Goodbye. 801 00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, now, wait a minute, what weas a minute? 802 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:37,199 Speaker 1: Can't you see? 803 00:38:37,199 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 4: I'm busy? But you sent for me I did. 804 00:38:40,199 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, you called Hartford said you wanted to see me 805 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:43,239 right away. 806 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,039 Speaker 4: Oh, of course, what's the matter with you? 807 00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: Anyway? 808 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 10: Of course I want to see you. 809 00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:54,039 Speaker 4: Jonathan Peebles too, right away. Who is Jonathan Peebles. He's 810 00:38:54,039 --> 00:38:54,760 an old friend of mine. 811 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: He lives out here. 812 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,599 Speaker 4: I telephoned him to come running too. Oh well, what's 813 00:38:58,599 --> 00:39:01,320 it all about, mister guid Right, Just you get yourself 814 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,400 on over here to my house and I'll tell you. 815 00:39:04,039 --> 00:39:06,880 I don't you waste any time. You're just pretty important. 816 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 6: Huh important. 817 00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: I hope you'll be with us then in the meantime. 818 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:16,079 Send your comments to Box thirteen at Great Detectives dot ne, 819 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,639 follow us on Twitter at Radio Detectives, and check us 820 00:39:21,679 --> 00:39:28,159 out on Instagram, Instagram, dot com, slash great detectives from Boise, Idaho. 821 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,239 This is your host, Adam Graham, Sign and off.