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<v Speaker 1>The disclaimer to the fair season Karen's out there, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>Great, Scott, what is happening? What is up? Hold out

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Prometheus Lands podcast, the place where the

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<v Speaker 2>got a great conversation for you today. I got a

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<v Speaker 2>returning guest and a friend of mine. We've been on

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<v Speaker 2>some adventures. We've been searching for the Sam Squench out

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<v Speaker 2>in the Smoky Mountains at East Tennessee. This man was

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<v Speaker 2>featured in my reel, my highlight reel, and he come

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<v Speaker 2>down from the Midwest area and had some really cool

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<v Speaker 2>experiences down in the woods, and so you saw him

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<v Speaker 2>in some of those trailers. But I'd like to welcome

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<v Speaker 2>back to the show for wait a minute. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the first time you've been here. I believe I've been

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<v Speaker 2>on yours. This is your first time here, So welcome

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<v Speaker 2>first time, first of many Riley from the Midwest. Smith Ods,

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<v Speaker 2>what's up? Riley?

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<v Speaker 3>What's up? Brother man? I know it feels like we've

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<v Speaker 3>done so much stuff together in the past six months

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<v Speaker 3>that you know, it feels like I've been on your

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<v Speaker 3>show before you've been on Mind. But we've done so

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<v Speaker 3>many roundtables, so many well the documentary camping shoot. I

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<v Speaker 3>evens at your house, maters of the universe, of the universe,

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<v Speaker 3>I think inside joke right there? Oh yeah, great movie. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well brother. Just for those maybe that have been

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<v Speaker 2>living under a rock and hasn't seen you and what

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<v Speaker 2>you do. Give everybody a little intro, introduce yourself, you

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<v Speaker 2>show what you talk about, interests and likes, all that

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<v Speaker 2>good stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>All right. So I'm Riley. I'm hosting the Midwest Mytholds podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>I come to you from the wild, the crazy, the

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<v Speaker 3>flattest areas on the Earth. I come from the Michigan

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<v Speaker 3>Indiana border, bringing you stories of high strangeness, mysteries, ancient history,

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<v Speaker 3>those small local legends that you may have never heard

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<v Speaker 3>of in your entire life. Some of the craziest theories

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<v Speaker 3>that you can think of. Man, And I do this

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<v Speaker 3>all from my basement and it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Man. I've been into the stuff ever since I was

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<v Speaker 3>a little boy. My intro if you ever get my

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<v Speaker 3>show a listen, my intro is my little story. Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been interested in things. I've known people's stories with

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<v Speaker 3>creatures and seem unbelievable, but they got the scars and

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<v Speaker 3>stuff to prove them. And I've had my fair share

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<v Speaker 3>of stuff throughout my life. I just the area I'm

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<v Speaker 3>from in the Midwest, we got a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like, you know what, why not make

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<v Speaker 3>a podcast about it. I've been listening to podcasts for

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<v Speaker 3>years and years since I was in high school, and decided,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, I might as well do it. Already

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<v Speaker 3>been collecting all this research. I had journals, books, everything

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<v Speaker 3>from creatures, ghosts, aliens, all that good stuff in Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, Illinois, Wisconsin,

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<v Speaker 3>that whole little area. So I figured out I might

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<v Speaker 3>as well bring it to you guys to hear. And

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<v Speaker 3>just because my show's Midwest mythos does not mean I

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<v Speaker 3>only talk about the stuff in the Midwest. Typically my

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<v Speaker 3>deep dives are. But I talked to people from all

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<v Speaker 3>you know you can find that. You can find these

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<v Speaker 3>anywhere you can find I got the videos on the

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<v Speaker 3>YouTube and anywhere you can listen to podcasts with the

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<v Speaker 3>Midwest Mythos Man and met a lot of great people

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<v Speaker 3>such as Doc Brown here on this journey minute. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's the best part about this man, getting to meet

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, I agree, one er present. I mean, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>into history and into deep diving some of these stranger subjects, Man,

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<v Speaker 2>podcasting is a god send for people like us because

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<v Speaker 2>we can dive through all the stuff we find fascinating,

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<v Speaker 2>tell people our opinions and what we think and what

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<v Speaker 2>we found, and then we get to network with other

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<v Speaker 2>people that share our passion and our joy and we

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<v Speaker 2>get to exchange our puzzle pieces, as I like to say,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, we all have pieces of it. So

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<v Speaker 2>the more people we sit down with and exchange conversations

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<v Speaker 2>and ideas with Man, the more fuller picture we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get. And yeah, you can tell the people that

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<v Speaker 2>do this and enjoy it because they have that permanent

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<v Speaker 2>grin on their faith the whole time. The cheese and.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes sir, yes sir. And Man, I'm glad you brought

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<v Speaker 3>up the puzzle piece thing because I remember when I

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<v Speaker 3>first had you on my show a couple months back,

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<v Speaker 3>that's one of the things that we were like. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, Man, you say that to and because

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<v Speaker 3>that's what that's another thing too. I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 3>a good way to genuinely find if somebody's in this

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<v Speaker 3>because they want answers, they want to know what's going on,

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<v Speaker 3>compared to just wanting to do it for fame and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I got a podcast, man, because I remember what roasting there.

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<v Speaker 3>I got my puzzle piece, you got yours. Let's don't

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<v Speaker 3>do this, Let's get more people, Let's do all this man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because there's too many shows out there nowadays in

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion. That and they're big shows, you know, lots

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<v Speaker 2>of people watching listen to them. I mean, they've made it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like for me from a reach researcher standpoint,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in a searcher standpoint, it's like I enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>some of these shows subjects, but for like the most

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<v Speaker 2>part the show itself, it's like they're disc jockeys, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean that they're not reading books, they're

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<v Speaker 2>not studying, they don't have their own opinions. They just

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<v Speaker 2>have a show and they invite these people on and

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<v Speaker 2>these big name guests see how many listeners and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>they got, and then they automatically come on the show

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<v Speaker 2>and they just sit back and let the guest take

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<v Speaker 2>I want some conversations brothers.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel that man. So like I'm not the biggest

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<v Speaker 3>reader on the entire planet. I know a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of our friends, including yourself, like to read

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<v Speaker 3>a lot. So I've always I mean, I read, but

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<v Speaker 3>Audio book Oh yeah, trust me, I got my fair

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<v Speaker 3>share of credits on Audible. I had to buy quite

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of them. But uh, like I've always been

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<v Speaker 3>people that can just walk into a room full of

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred people I don't know and I'll become best

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<v Speaker 3>friends with over half of them just from talking to them.

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<v Speaker 3>And I like here, I'm very much a listener for

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<v Speaker 3>the most part. Like I like to hear people's stories

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<v Speaker 3>and then really get it, like tear them apart at

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<v Speaker 3>the end, just really get it. Let's get all the details.

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<v Speaker 3>And usually that ends up leading into another hour or

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<v Speaker 3>two conversation. Sometimes my wife, it drives my wife crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll get a new We'll get a new person that

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<v Speaker 3>the one that goes up and introduces them myself to him,

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<v Speaker 3>start talking. Oh you know, tell me your story, let's

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<v Speaker 3>hear about it. And then oh, yeah, well have you

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<v Speaker 3>ever thought about it like this? And then next thing

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we're there for another half hour. She's like, Riley,

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<v Speaker 3>we gotta go. You do this everywhere. I've seen you

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<v Speaker 3>do it at a Burger King before. I just like

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<v Speaker 3>hearing people's stories. That's what we're here for, like to

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<v Speaker 3>share our lives. It's boring if you don't tell somebody

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, for sure. Well, I know we were talking

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<v Speaker 2>pre roll. Definitely want to dive into some of the

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<v Speaker 2>Midwest mythos and one of those conversations, like you were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about me and you struck up a conversation when

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<v Speaker 2>you came down to Tennessee and we were hanging out

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<v Speaker 2>and you'd mentioned something that I had never heard of before,

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<v Speaker 2>And if you don't mind, I'd like to kick you

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<v Speaker 2>off there, because I'm sure if I haven't heard of it,

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<v Speaker 2>there's probably a large handful of the listeners that's not

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<v Speaker 2>heard of it neither. But what is the melon Heads?

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned this to me and we started talking about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, man, what are you talking about? You're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about you know that movie back in the day,

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<v Speaker 2>Cone Heads is that what we're talking about here is

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<v Speaker 2>that what they were alluding to, what is the melon heads? Brother?

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<v Speaker 2>And where did this all come from? All? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Man?

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<v Speaker 3>So the melon heads are depending where you're at, there's

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<v Speaker 3>three locations that they're real prominent. But today I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to focus on the ones in Holland slash Saugatuck and Michigan.

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<v Speaker 3>And they are a feral people with engorge heads due

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<v Speaker 3>to a hydrocephaliac which is waterhead syndrome. And they supposedly

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<v Speaker 3>stalk the woods of tak in Holland. So basically that

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<v Speaker 3>whole little area. You can look it up on Google Maps.

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty wooded area. It's also touristy, a lot of breweries,

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<v Speaker 3>tons and tons of breweries, so if you like beer,

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<v Speaker 3>go check it out. But they got a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>nature trails and preserves and stuff like that too. But

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<v Speaker 3>these belum heads, and I guess PSA some people the

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<v Speaker 3>language that I'm gonna use to describe these, I know

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<v Speaker 3>it's a sense of toic topic for some people, but

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<v Speaker 3>this is just how we talk about it in the area.

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<v Speaker 3>There's zero disrespect behind it whatsoever. But they have these

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<v Speaker 3>giant heads and they're not necessarily. It's not like they

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<v Speaker 3>look like Stewie from Family Guy or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But they're just these giant, massive domes. It do the

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<v Speaker 3>water pressure against the brain and stuff like that in

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<v Speaker 3>the medical field. Now we'll get into some other possibilities,

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<v Speaker 3>but they they reside near the Felt Mansion in Allegan County, Michigan,

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<v Speaker 3>which is in Holland. The Felt Mansion was built in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen twenty eight by Doorfelt as a summer home for

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<v Speaker 3>his wife. Now that's the most concrete evidence that we

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<v Speaker 3>have as far as the story for this building until

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<v Speaker 3>present day. Where skipping ahead. Now, it's a place where

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<v Speaker 3>you can have your wedding reception and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 3>family renions. It's a really nice place. But in between

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen twenty eight and twenty sixteen, that's where things begin

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<v Speaker 3>to get a little blurry for this. Some people say

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<v Speaker 3>it was a school for like trouble kids. At other

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<v Speaker 3>times it was a sanatorium insane asylum. And that's where

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<v Speaker 3>so many notes here on this. There was a doctor

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<v Speaker 3>name doctor Crowe, and his goal was to make a

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<v Speaker 3>hybrid camaras a monkey lie species of man, and he

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<v Speaker 3>Uber Mitch thing. I never really heard of the German

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<v Speaker 3>scientists side of it. I've always just heard, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it was a doctor working on these patients and then

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<v Speaker 3>sant asylum. It wasn't until I was actually listening to

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<v Speaker 3>the twenty one CD podcast where he brought this up.

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<v Speaker 3>He's from the general area as well, so he's heard

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<v Speaker 3>these legends and stuff as well. I got to give shoutouts.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm big about that when I've find something that I

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<v Speaker 3>there's like they were trying to do, like transmutations and stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>summon these things to make the ultimate soldier. But they

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<v Speaker 3>part of it, but I don't know. We can go

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<v Speaker 3>little bit. So as the story goes, this dude tested

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<v Speaker 3>tortured all these kids that had these disabilities. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>always just like kids with a hydrocephalic There's chances are

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<v Speaker 3>here as they most families would in this back in

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<v Speaker 3>this day, would send that. That's just what families did

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<v Speaker 3>with people like that, send them to the insane asylums.

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<v Speaker 3>So during testing one of these days, one of them

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<v Speaker 3>escaped and set free all the other kids and stuff

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<v Speaker 3>that have been tested on. And rumor has it that

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<v Speaker 3>they will let not rumored. Legend has it that they

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<v Speaker 3>killed this doctor, ate his body, all that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>and retreated out to the woods around the mansion. And

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<v Speaker 3>to this day they supposedly are still surviving out there, breeding,

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<v Speaker 3>scaring people, people go missing. And this is this is

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<v Speaker 3>one of those legends that if you're from southwest Michigan

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<v Speaker 3>or ether than just western Michigan, you here all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Even so I grew up in a town maybe thirty

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<v Speaker 3>the time as a kid. Don't go outside, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the melon has they're traveling down this time of year.

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<v Speaker 3>They're gonna get you if you play out in the

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<v Speaker 3>woods too far at night. They're gonna each you and

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<v Speaker 3>take you away, and it's just absolutely insane. Like how

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's not like Bigfoot or aliens, because there's been

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<v Speaker 3>tons of UFO sidings over this place too. As far

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<v Speaker 3>as like people are open to talk about these legends,

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<v Speaker 3>these are used as fear, like a lot of like

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<v Speaker 3>the stories like the wood Booger and stuff down by you, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>don't go on the night the wood Booker is gonna

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<v Speaker 3>get you mm hm. So that causes a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people in the area to believe, Oh, it's just a

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<v Speaker 3>wives tale to keep your children in such. Yeah, But

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<v Speaker 3>much like the wood Booger, there's truth behind it. Nobody

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<v Speaker 3>nobody's just gonna come up with this idea that there's

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<v Speaker 3>these Meloni hell headed children out there roaming the woods, ripping,

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<v Speaker 3>taking people out and stuff like that. That's that's not

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<v Speaker 3>just something somebody's going to come up with. You would say, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>a bear came down from the top up north in

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<v Speaker 3>the state. That's going to scare people kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's one of the origin stories of them, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's the one that gets told most of the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Others are just oh, some escaped the school and did

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<v Speaker 3>it all They all reside from coming out of this mansion,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it was a scientist or it's just in a

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<v Speaker 3>same asylum with no scientists trying to create a kamara.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever they want to call it. There's so many different

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<v Speaker 3>things I called it. Maybe they just got out and escaped,

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<v Speaker 3>or maybe some family just dropped their kid off in

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<v Speaker 3>the woods because they couldn't take care of them, or

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<v Speaker 3>they didn't want to bring shame upon their family back then.

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<v Speaker 3>But regardless of what origin story you believe, there's actually

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<v Speaker 3>some decent amount of sightings that happen in this area,

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<v Speaker 3>and a lot of people know about it, so there's

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<v Speaker 3>got to be at least the legends still live on

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<v Speaker 3>in the area. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's something I talked about in my book too,

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<v Speaker 2>the Epic of I Saw. I had a chapter in

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<v Speaker 2>there talking about I'm trying to think now. Nick Redford

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<v Speaker 2>in his book I had read and he's from over

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<v Speaker 2>there in England and Europe, and he said that there

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<v Speaker 2>was a mentally insane hospital in this certain town, which

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<v Speaker 2>I have to do all the details in my book.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sister slipping my mind right now, but this was

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<v Speaker 2>a yeah, man, there it is but he followed this

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<v Speaker 2>trail of this and this local family that was like

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<v Speaker 2>part of the like the ruling class, had started this

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<v Speaker 2>insane asylum and they were all the family set on

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<v Speaker 2>the board of directors and called all the shots and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>They owned, it all out right. And it was one

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<v Speaker 2>day this guy was in a bar and bumped into

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that used to work security there, and after

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<v Speaker 2>they got to drinking a little bit, got to talk

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<v Speaker 2>that he started telling stories about during World War two.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it was that they that area was really

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<v Speaker 2>synonymous for having nazzy planes shot down. And there's all

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of woods around that insane asylum. It set like

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<v Speaker 2>on seven acres, and that one night they seen a

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<v Speaker 2>plane go down and they went out to investigate and

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<v Speaker 2>grab the guy if he survived the crash. And when

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<v Speaker 2>they got out there, him and another guy that owned

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<v Speaker 2>property that was adjacent joined him, and they bumped into

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<v Speaker 2>this Harry wild Man. This man covered in hair him

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<v Speaker 2>head to toe and shot him, but he lived, and

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<v Speaker 2>they took him back to the hospital and doctored him up.

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<v Speaker 2>But this white van pulls up and starts questioning all

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<v Speaker 2>of them, and this goes in and grabs this hairy

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote man throws him in the back of the

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<v Speaker 2>van until everybody never to speak of the event again

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<v Speaker 2>and then leaves. And that guy got the digging. But

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<v Speaker 2>that guy that told him that story, he was dying

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<v Speaker 2>of cancer and he ended up dying. But this guy

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<v Speaker 2>researched it real thoroughly and got ahold of the records

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<v Speaker 2>there at that hospital and that family that owned it hypertrixosis,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the disease they call the wild man or

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<v Speaker 2>the wolfman syndrome. Many people in their family had that

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<v Speaker 2>disease and were checked into that hospital. So he theorized

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<v Speaker 2>that the family had bought this opened it for their

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<v Speaker 2>own family to hide the shame of the family and

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<v Speaker 2>keep these you know, harry wild men and women under wraps,

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<v Speaker 2>and that at a certain time, it's just like it stopped,

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<v Speaker 2>and they just stopped keeping records of that family. So

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<v Speaker 2>he theorized that that was the caretakers of the family,

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<v Speaker 2>that somebody in that family that they were taking care

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<v Speaker 2>of in their own house now to avoid being found out.

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<v Speaker 2>That the hairy man got out, and then when they

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<v Speaker 2>shot him and brought him to the hospital, the family

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<v Speaker 2>And the guy didn't mention the family's name because he

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<v Speaker 2>number on the screen, and hey tell them Doc Brownson.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean you're talking about Nazi Germany, Harry

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<v Speaker 2>Wilde and Sasquatches and conspiracy cover ups from the government. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that story's got it all. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, then that brings me back to detail I probably

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<v Speaker 3>should have done towards the beginning. But so this is

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<v Speaker 3>Southwest Michigan during World War Two, since we're talking about

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<v Speaker 3>the Nazis and Germans being shot down and stuff. So

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<v Speaker 3>there was actually a lot of the POWs that got

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<v Speaker 3>brought over to America were brought to Southwest Michigan because

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<v Speaker 3>it it still is today, but go back even fifty

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<v Speaker 3>sixty years. It's an a, It's part of the fruit belt.

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<v Speaker 3>It's this whole agricultural hot spot. So the town I

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<v Speaker 3>grew up in Colomba, Michigan known for apples, peaches, like cherries, strawberries,

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<v Speaker 3>raspberries all that kind of stuf. So there's farms everywhere. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>when the German POWs were brought over here, they were

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<v Speaker 3>actually treated very very well, and there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>evidence of this because you know, people lived. A lot

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<v Speaker 3>of them did not go back to Germany, they stayed here,

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<v Speaker 3>So there's a lot of word of mouth, like just

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<v Speaker 3>knowing people. I know a lot of the descendants of

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<v Speaker 3>these people. So instead of being how our troops were

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<v Speaker 3>treated poorly and stuff like that, when they got over here,

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<v Speaker 3>they were given jobs. Hey you get to work out

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<v Speaker 3>on the apple orchard to day, or hey you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to work out in the speech orchard. And then when

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<v Speaker 3>you're done with your shift for the day, oh you

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<v Speaker 3>can here take this money that you made. Are these

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<v Speaker 3>bond little ticket things? Go get you some groceries, or hey,

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<v Speaker 3>do you want to go to the movie theater today?

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of thing. They're treated human. The only ones that

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<v Speaker 3>treated them bad were the other Germans that were like

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<v Speaker 3>all for the cause. So there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>like infighting of the die hard like German Nazi nationally

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<v Speaker 3>that oh you can't you can't betray the fear, but

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<v Speaker 3>just the ones that had no choice but to join

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<v Speaker 3>because they lived there and they didn't want to be

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<v Speaker 3>any part of the war. They were able to start

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<v Speaker 3>new lives here. So that's where the whole German scientist

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<v Speaker 3>thing comes in. I don't think it has any ties

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<v Speaker 3>to Operation paper Clip or anything like that, but just

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<v Speaker 3>this area has a very high density of German descent

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<v Speaker 3>due to that fact of so many Germans were here

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<v Speaker 3>and did not want to go back to Germany. They

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<v Speaker 3>liked us so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, right yep, especially like the you know, like uh

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<v Speaker 2>von Braun and all those guys. You know, they were

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<v Speaker 2>super smart and heads of their field. So once they

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<v Speaker 2>got captured and stuff, the government didn't want to waste

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<v Speaker 2>their talent, so to speak, and make sure that they

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<v Speaker 2>got the top technologies. And also, whether you believe it

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<v Speaker 2>or or not, you know that we were in a

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<v Speaker 2>space race, right they wanted all their help to try

418
00:25:06.519 --> 00:25:10.440
<v Speaker 2>to get out there first, and it did work.

419
00:25:10.519 --> 00:25:17.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, people don't even realize, like Tom, is that why?

420
00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:21.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know why, almost said Thomas Edison. Albert Einstein

421
00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:24.799
<v Speaker 3>was part of Operation paper Clips. People don't realize that

422
00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:29.240
<v Speaker 3>he came from Germany to here to work for the Americans.

423
00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:34.000
<v Speaker 3>So there's all that with that. But as far as

424
00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:35.839
<v Speaker 3>going back to the melon heads, like if you want,

425
00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:38.160
<v Speaker 3>I can get into some of the sightings and stuff

426
00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:41.839
<v Speaker 3>like that. Some of the man what could prove it

427
00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:45.519
<v Speaker 3>possibly being real or could be a whole hoax or both.

428
00:25:46.279 --> 00:25:49.559
<v Speaker 2>So with the stories, now, were these like high functioning,

429
00:25:50.039 --> 00:25:53.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, intelligent people, like could they have conversations like

430
00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:56.359
<v Speaker 2>we are now or was there like some speech impediment

431
00:25:56.440 --> 00:25:59.920
<v Speaker 2>involved supposedly, or some mental retardation.

432
00:25:59.519 --> 00:26:05.000
<v Speaker 3>The state there is very much mental retardation in it

433
00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:10.079
<v Speaker 3>a lot, and for the population is far as sightings

434
00:26:10.200 --> 00:26:14.480
<v Speaker 3>nowadays go, they're so inbred and stuff as well, just

435
00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:21.799
<v Speaker 3>on top of the patient Zero's already having medical conditions

436
00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:24.119
<v Speaker 3>and stuff like that. I guarantee there was a couple

437
00:26:24.119 --> 00:26:29.799
<v Speaker 3>of them that could speak and stuff, but others no. Uh,

438
00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:33.200
<v Speaker 3>but that's just how the spectrum of the stuff works.

439
00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:37.160
<v Speaker 3>But as far as the legends and stuff go, for nowadays,

440
00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:41.160
<v Speaker 3>they've been so inbred now that it's just like fair

441
00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:47.400
<v Speaker 3>old people and maybe ron yeah, but more impish almost,

442
00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:53.720
<v Speaker 3>which we can get into that as well. After some

443
00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:57.920
<v Speaker 3>of these sightings, there's so there's no names or stuff

444
00:26:57.960 --> 00:27:01.599
<v Speaker 3>to these some some of these are just stories people

445
00:27:01.640 --> 00:27:06.279
<v Speaker 3>have personally told me. And like this big one, well

446
00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:10.400
<v Speaker 3>big one, it's more of an idea, like a conglominatory idea.

447
00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:15.720
<v Speaker 3>Generalization is well, one being from the area, and two

448
00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:18.279
<v Speaker 3>I mentioned I have so many books on just like

449
00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:21.240
<v Speaker 3>the local legends and stuff. There's so many. There's every

450
00:27:21.279 --> 00:27:25.000
<v Speaker 3>town's got that makeout point place that the high schoolers

451
00:27:25.039 --> 00:27:28.880
<v Speaker 3>go to get a little handsy away from everybody. Well,

452
00:27:28.920 --> 00:27:32.720
<v Speaker 3>there's there's a place in Holland that's like that. It's

453
00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:37.000
<v Speaker 3>out in the woods. And so during like the seventies

454
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:39.400
<v Speaker 3>and eighties, the high schoolers would be going out to

455
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:43.880
<v Speaker 3>do what high schoolers do in a car that's hidden away.

456
00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:48.079
<v Speaker 3>We'll keep it pg leave it to the imagination. And

457
00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:53.720
<v Speaker 3>as they go out there, there was a certain spot

458
00:27:54.200 --> 00:27:57.240
<v Speaker 3>out there where as soon as the man would start

459
00:27:57.279 --> 00:28:00.880
<v Speaker 3>making the move, they'll start hearing ta on the car,

460
00:28:01.160 --> 00:28:08.000
<v Speaker 3>shaken to the car lights, like eyes shining out the bushes,

461
00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:12.839
<v Speaker 3>and like the shadows from the headlights of these large hats,

462
00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:18.839
<v Speaker 3>and these just weird, ominous, scary noises of chatter. But

463
00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:23.200
<v Speaker 3>it didn't make sense, like it wasn't our spoken language.

464
00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:25.799
<v Speaker 3>It was just like how animals communicate with sounds and

465
00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:29.759
<v Speaker 3>stuff like that. This is a recurring thing for high

466
00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:32.759
<v Speaker 3>schoolers out in the woods at this time. And there

467
00:28:32.839 --> 00:28:35.440
<v Speaker 3>was one dude I don't have his name, he came

468
00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:39.079
<v Speaker 3>out and said, oh no, that was just me. I

469
00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:43.200
<v Speaker 3>would go out there every weekend and make these noises

470
00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:47.519
<v Speaker 3>and mess with these teenagers. But all the time for

471
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:51.319
<v Speaker 3>this twenty possibly even thirty year span, like you didn't

472
00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:54.279
<v Speaker 3>have anything else to do with your life. Yeah, it

473
00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:56.240
<v Speaker 3>doesn't like, all right, maybe you did it a couple

474
00:28:56.279 --> 00:28:58.680
<v Speaker 3>of times. I'm not going to say you didn't, But

475
00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:02.640
<v Speaker 3>every time there's quite a few sightings of this stuff happening.

476
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:06.400
<v Speaker 3>So if that's what you want to dedicate, if he

477
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:09.000
<v Speaker 3>wanted to dedicate his whole life the hoax in this

478
00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:13.160
<v Speaker 3>and scaring high schoolers, props to him. You just made

479
00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:17.960
<v Speaker 3>the local legend that's never gone away. But the likelihood

480
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:22.920
<v Speaker 3>of that happening to me, it just doesn't make sense

481
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:27.720
<v Speaker 3>that he did everything right. And one thing that people

482
00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:30.640
<v Speaker 3>don't a lot of people don't know about is there's

483
00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:35.920
<v Speaker 3>a lot of really really, really really rich people in

484
00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:39.160
<v Speaker 3>this area that have homes, so you can drive out,

485
00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:41.240
<v Speaker 3>you can get on the main roads to see and

486
00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:43.720
<v Speaker 3>see like a couple of million dollar homes, some mansions

487
00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:48.119
<v Speaker 3>and stuff. Then there's these places called the fire Lanes

488
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:51.240
<v Speaker 3>and it's just a bunch of woods. It'll have a

489
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:53.720
<v Speaker 3>little sign, and then there's like gates and stuff, and

490
00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:57.160
<v Speaker 3>as you if you get lucky enough to get one

491
00:29:57.160 --> 00:29:58.680
<v Speaker 3>of the pins or something, or like if you're doing

492
00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:02.440
<v Speaker 3>work on one of these dude's houses. There's these multi

493
00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:08.079
<v Speaker 3>million dollar houses all on the bluffal Lake, Michigan and

494
00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:11.839
<v Speaker 3>out in the woods. So people know about those, but

495
00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:14.359
<v Speaker 3>you just can't see him because there's that much trees.

496
00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:21.039
<v Speaker 3>So those are decently known. But then there's billion dollar

497
00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:24.279
<v Speaker 3>mansions almost that people don't know about that are hidden

498
00:30:24.319 --> 00:30:27.359
<v Speaker 3>throughout the woods and the only way to get there

499
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:31.240
<v Speaker 3>is helicopters or like an ATV or something like that

500
00:30:31.400 --> 00:30:36.599
<v Speaker 3>hidden out there. And I know this because I know

501
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:39.880
<v Speaker 3>some really well known carpenters and contractors from the area

502
00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:44.359
<v Speaker 3>who have been asked to work on these houses. And

503
00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:46.039
<v Speaker 3>one of them was telling me one time he was

504
00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:49.200
<v Speaker 3>talking to the security because there's a tunnel out in

505
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:51.799
<v Speaker 3>one of them, and that's how you get to it,

506
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:55.119
<v Speaker 3>is you go through this old like drainage looking tunnel thing.

507
00:30:56.079 --> 00:30:58.839
<v Speaker 3>And he said the security guard sound stands there and

508
00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:03.799
<v Speaker 3>want's a censor goes off and they see people. What

509
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:07.799
<v Speaker 3>he does is he starts blasting feral people noises through

510
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:11.680
<v Speaker 3>the tunnels to scare people away to not get too

511
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:13.640
<v Speaker 3>close to these houses, so people don't know where these

512
00:31:13.640 --> 00:31:18.839
<v Speaker 3>houses are out there. So some people say, oh, well,

513
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:22.359
<v Speaker 3>then that's I've told a couple of people about it.

514
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:24.759
<v Speaker 3>They're like, oh, well, then they're that demunks the whole legend.

515
00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:26.559
<v Speaker 3>These people are out there doing this. I'm like, well,

516
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:31.119
<v Speaker 3>that's present day. Will even be generous to knock you

517
00:31:31.160 --> 00:31:34.200
<v Speaker 3>back thirty years? What about everything that happened before that?

518
00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:39.079
<v Speaker 3>You know, are these people just using the legends or

519
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:43.839
<v Speaker 3>to scare people away or as we know in this community.

520
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:46.119
<v Speaker 3>And I don't know if I'm this is going to

521
00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:48.960
<v Speaker 3>get us instrouble for talking about, but we know the

522
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:55.720
<v Speaker 3>elites like to dabble in all sorts of rituals and witchcraft,

523
00:31:56.039 --> 00:32:01.000
<v Speaker 3>which brings us to the second type of melon head.

524
00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:05.200
<v Speaker 3>And this is like me, like me personally just saying

525
00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:08.039
<v Speaker 3>there's two types. It's not talked about that way around here.

526
00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:13.119
<v Speaker 3>That maybe they're not children and stuff that had these

527
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:19.720
<v Speaker 3>hydrocephalitis or maybe what I'm going to about to talk

528
00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:22.599
<v Speaker 3>to you, is taking the form of what used to

529
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:26.400
<v Speaker 3>be there or just like the mass consciousness of people

530
00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:30.559
<v Speaker 3>to take form. But what if these billionaires and stuff

531
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:35.720
<v Speaker 3>are doing they're rituals and summoning these creatures, these familiars,

532
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:41.599
<v Speaker 3>these amps that people talk about seeing and this is

533
00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:44.440
<v Speaker 3>what people are seeing throughout the woods. This is what's

534
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:50.559
<v Speaker 3>attacking people, scaring children, scaring adults, is these creatures. Because

535
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:54.640
<v Speaker 3>the melonheads are just one of the many, many, many

536
00:32:54.680 --> 00:33:00.440
<v Speaker 3>many things that are in this area of Michigan. Had

537
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:06.720
<v Speaker 3>the Dewey Lake Monster, huge bigfoot sighting that has that

538
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:08.920
<v Speaker 3>was taken that like, people came all over from the

539
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:11.680
<v Speaker 3>country to come try to haunt those there's To this day,

540
00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:14.000
<v Speaker 3>it's still a reward if anybody can bring it in.

541
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:18.759
<v Speaker 3>Very of the sasquatch like being. There's the giant UFO

542
00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:24.319
<v Speaker 3>flight that happened in ninety four where thousands upon thousands

543
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:30.559
<v Speaker 3>people called reporting seeing this massive UFO fleet flying from

544
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:36.799
<v Speaker 3>Ludington all the way down to Michigan City, Indiana. Basically,

545
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:41.319
<v Speaker 3>we got the dog Man, the Manisteine National Forest, all

546
00:33:41.319 --> 00:33:44.759
<v Speaker 3>the high strangers there, the Lake Michigan Triangle Man. There's

547
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:51.359
<v Speaker 3>so much paranormal, unknown supernatural stuff in this area, it

548
00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:54.599
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't surprise me if they were feeding off the energy

549
00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:59.039
<v Speaker 3>of the place to some of these demons, is all

550
00:33:59.079 --> 00:33:59.440
<v Speaker 3>it is.

551
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:04.519
<v Speaker 2>It's like it reminded me of like Bohemian or Bohemian Grove.

552
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:10.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, how they had this secret mansion and estate

553
00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:13.599
<v Speaker 2>out in the woods, and they had security to keep

554
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:16.119
<v Speaker 2>people away, and you know, once a year or whatever,

555
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:18.320
<v Speaker 2>twice a year out and how often they met but

556
00:34:18.559 --> 00:34:21.440
<v Speaker 2>ever so often called people together and they would do

557
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:24.719
<v Speaker 2>these rituals and do all this kind of crazy stuff.

558
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:28.000
<v Speaker 2>So that's exactly what I thought about when you was

559
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:31.480
<v Speaker 2>talking about that, because what's the point of having this

560
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:35.159
<v Speaker 2>fancy house and compound in the middle of the woods

561
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:37.679
<v Speaker 2>with no roads to it to hide it and then

562
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:40.760
<v Speaker 2>have like a tunnel that you got to go through

563
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:43.199
<v Speaker 2>to get to the place, and they have armed guards

564
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:47.199
<v Speaker 2>and security there to keep people away. You know, what

565
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:50.559
<v Speaker 2>are they trying to hide? What's in there that they're

566
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:54.360
<v Speaker 2>trying to keep people away from, or what's in there

567
00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:57.719
<v Speaker 2>that they're trying to protect people from. I mean, it

568
00:34:57.760 --> 00:34:58.639
<v Speaker 2>could be the other way.

569
00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:02.360
<v Speaker 3>Well, that could lead into one of the things I

570
00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:06.000
<v Speaker 3>always talk about when I talk about the Late Michigan

571
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:10.280
<v Speaker 3>Triangle just because that place is way A lot of

572
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:11.960
<v Speaker 3>people haven't heard about it, but it's worse than the

573
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:15.519
<v Speaker 3>Bermunda Triangle as far as like Death's shipwrecks, airplanes going

574
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:19.159
<v Speaker 3>down outnumbers the Bermuda Triangle by so much. But I

575
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:22.599
<v Speaker 3>got numerous episodes on that on my podcast, so if

576
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:24.880
<v Speaker 3>people want to hear that, they can go check that out.

577
00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:28.920
<v Speaker 3>But one of the things I always bring up is

578
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:36.000
<v Speaker 3>the area is just dark. Man, it's really really dark.

579
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:41.119
<v Speaker 3>We al Capone used to mob in southwest Michigan. He

580
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:45.320
<v Speaker 3>would come from Chicago. Sorry, I got it, scratching my throat.

581
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:51.000
<v Speaker 3>He had bootlegs, stands next to not too far away

582
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:54.320
<v Speaker 3>from when I grew up. I have family members that

583
00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:59.000
<v Speaker 3>knew him, old scarface man. And there's all kinds of

584
00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:01.920
<v Speaker 3>human trafficking that comes from Chicago, goes all the way

585
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:04.880
<v Speaker 3>up the coast of Michigan all through that basin over Indiana.

586
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:11.320
<v Speaker 3>So there's a trail like you're hitting Chicago, you're hitting Gary, Indiana.

587
00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:13.519
<v Speaker 3>We all know how bad Gary is. Even if you're

588
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:15.800
<v Speaker 3>not from this area. Everybody knows how awful Gary is.

589
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:19.800
<v Speaker 3>You're hitting Michigan City, Beton Harbor, Man Benon Harbor is

590
00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:23.440
<v Speaker 3>a cesspool. Now awful place, But it used to be

591
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:26.239
<v Speaker 3>people would come from all over the world to go there.

592
00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:35.840
<v Speaker 3>They would have festivals. It's very honestly, it's very tartarian, like,

593
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:39.840
<v Speaker 3>if you ever make your way up here, I'll take

594
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:44.000
<v Speaker 3>you through it. But now it's just like a giant

595
00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:50.360
<v Speaker 3>hood's super dangerous place to lift. But there's murder, there's

596
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:55.920
<v Speaker 3>human trafficking, everything that's going through here. And it's like, huh,

597
00:36:56.159 --> 00:36:58.400
<v Speaker 3>why is this area such a big hot spot, and

598
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:00.639
<v Speaker 3>why is it all moving up in the mission? Why

599
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:04.239
<v Speaker 3>is it coming from Chicago? Why can't it go to Chicago?

600
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:04.559
<v Speaker 3>You know?

601
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:07.599
<v Speaker 2>Why is it thought about the connection with the like

602
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:11.599
<v Speaker 2>the Ohio River valley and the Nephelum giants and all

603
00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:15.920
<v Speaker 2>the mounds and stuff. Yeah, as if that's some kind

604
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:22.039
<v Speaker 2>of connection to the darkness and the spirituality and ritualistic

605
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:25.440
<v Speaker 2>type stuff there. Because I'm a firm believer, I think

606
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:29.199
<v Speaker 2>that these Nephelim giants, these Venetians, these ships, when the

607
00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:32.079
<v Speaker 2>water levels were higher, come right in to the Lake

608
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:35.039
<v Speaker 2>Michigan area and that's where kind of where they spread

609
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:37.960
<v Speaker 2>out from. That's where you have those copper mines, and

610
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:42.000
<v Speaker 2>they followed that river valley down into Ohio and Kentucky

611
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:45.400
<v Speaker 2>and eastern Tennessee. And that's why you have this string

612
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:48.960
<v Speaker 2>of mounds and complexes and stone hinges and stuff like

613
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:50.599
<v Speaker 2>that associated with these places.

614
00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:53.159
<v Speaker 3>Well, let me hit you with this theory that I've

615
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:56.079
<v Speaker 3>been working on man over the last year, just from

616
00:37:56.280 --> 00:38:00.920
<v Speaker 3>talking to people. I think before Lake Michigan was Lake Michigan,

617
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:06.599
<v Speaker 3>it was a mass ritual site, like giants doing all

618
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:10.199
<v Speaker 3>their stuff, earlier people doing We see the Lake Michigan

619
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:13.519
<v Speaker 3>Stone henge. Okay, I don't know how familiar you are

620
00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:15.800
<v Speaker 3>with that or if you've seen pictures of it. A

621
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:18.239
<v Speaker 3>lot of people say, oh, that's just a mammoth kill circle. Cool.

622
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:20.800
<v Speaker 3>It could have been, but it could also be a

623
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:24.400
<v Speaker 3>ritual site. They have petroglyss of mastadons. Man, that's all

624
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:27.519
<v Speaker 3>that underneath the water, and it's not too far away

625
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:31.199
<v Speaker 3>from where us as men put the perimeter of the

626
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:34.880
<v Speaker 3>Lake Michigan Triangle. I'm a believer all these little Communia Triangle,

627
00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:38.639
<v Speaker 3>Bridgewater Triangle, Lake Michigan Triangle, all this stuff. Where we

628
00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:41.000
<v Speaker 3>put our perimeters, that's not where the stuff's contained. I

629
00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:45.360
<v Speaker 3>think it just stands out farther. But with all the

630
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:47.880
<v Speaker 3>mount like you said, in the Ohio River Valley, all

631
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:51.599
<v Speaker 3>these mounds, all the nephilim, I'm hearing stuff. There's some

632
00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:56.000
<v Speaker 3>in Indiana, Illinois, now Wisconsin. I'm hearing stuff come out

633
00:38:56.039 --> 00:38:59.599
<v Speaker 3>of all these mounds. And like you said, it leads

634
00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:03.880
<v Speaker 3>into Lake Michigan. All this stuff leads into Lake Michigan. Why,

635
00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:07.400
<v Speaker 3>out of anybody of water in the entire world, why

636
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:10.079
<v Speaker 3>do more ships go down? Why do more people just

637
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:14.079
<v Speaker 3>mysteriously disappear out of nowhere? Why are people seeing these

638
00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:17.800
<v Speaker 3>UFO crafts shooting out of the water all the time?

639
00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:21.039
<v Speaker 3>Why are they getting weird pings on radar? Why is

640
00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:24.679
<v Speaker 3>there these ancient sites and stuff down there and nowhere

641
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:27.119
<v Speaker 3>else like it happened to at such a frequency of

642
00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:30.599
<v Speaker 3>nowhere else? Because I mean, Lake Michigan's big, but there's

643
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:32.199
<v Speaker 3>a lot of other places in the world that this

644
00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:34.719
<v Speaker 3>could be happened. Why is it focusing on this one spot?

645
00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:43.119
<v Speaker 3>And why is some meteorologists, some some scientists is gonna

646
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:46.039
<v Speaker 3>come out here and say, oh, well this why is

647
00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:49.599
<v Speaker 3>if you ask any meteorologists, what the hardest place on

648
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:52.199
<v Speaker 3>the world in the world to predict the weather is

649
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:58.119
<v Speaker 3>they're gonna say Southwest Michigan because the lake, once you

650
00:39:58.159 --> 00:40:00.159
<v Speaker 3>get halfway through the lake, it can just switch the

651
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:02.920
<v Speaker 3>weather like that, like crazy. Oh well, it's a weather patterns.

652
00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:06.159
<v Speaker 3>It's when the lake's so big it affects us. Yeah,

653
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:10.199
<v Speaker 3>I agree to an extent. Put dude, there's just living

654
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:14.960
<v Speaker 3>here my whole entire life. There's some really really unexplainable

655
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:17.800
<v Speaker 3>stuff that comes with it. And diving into all this

656
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:21.159
<v Speaker 3>and hearing all these different things. Man, something doesn't want

657
00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:24.119
<v Speaker 3>us finding what's in those in the lake because once

658
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:27.079
<v Speaker 3>something goes down, you can't find it. It's not like

659
00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:31.159
<v Speaker 3>Lake Superior, where everything's it's so cold, everything stays at

660
00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:33.360
<v Speaker 3>the bottom and you can send scuba divers and stuff.

661
00:40:33.840 --> 00:40:40.519
<v Speaker 3>Lake Michigan is so, so, so dangerous. And that could

662
00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:43.000
<v Speaker 3>just be me with my little tinfoil hat on or

663
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:46.360
<v Speaker 3>something just trying to make something. But as somebody who's

664
00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:49.000
<v Speaker 3>been experiencing this, in this stuff my whole entire life

665
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:54.000
<v Speaker 3>and looking into it, I can't. I can't deny. It's

666
00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:56.119
<v Speaker 3>slapping me in the face in front of me. Something

667
00:40:56.199 --> 00:40:59.239
<v Speaker 3>is here that they don't want to talk about, and

668
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:02.480
<v Speaker 3>they don't want us to fine, I don't think that

669
00:41:02.559 --> 00:41:06.559
<v Speaker 3>one stonehenge that they found is the only thing out there.

670
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:09.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I think there's a lot more under the

671
00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:12.199
<v Speaker 3>water that they won't tell us. They could just get

672
00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:15.280
<v Speaker 3>away with that because people can say, oh, due to

673
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:19.320
<v Speaker 3>these petroglyphs and these cave paintings that we found that

674
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:23.119
<v Speaker 3>there is a it was just a man with kill circle.

675
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:26.920
<v Speaker 3>We can take it as that, and the conspiracy theorist

676
00:41:26.920 --> 00:41:28.280
<v Speaker 3>ain't going to be getting into it, you know.

677
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, so I know you said you didn't want to

678
00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:36.239
<v Speaker 2>get into it too deep because you talk about it

679
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:39.280
<v Speaker 2>a lot, but I'm not familiar with with that triangle.

680
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:43.079
<v Speaker 2>Could you give me just like maybe maybe one or

681
00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:46.079
<v Speaker 2>two stories that stand out?

682
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:49.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, give me half a second to get this pulled up.

683
00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:50.440
<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you.

684
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:53.800
<v Speaker 2>I've heard you kind of just genuinely speak about it,

685
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:56.559
<v Speaker 2>but I've not heard any of the details.

686
00:41:57.639 --> 00:42:01.320
<v Speaker 3>So I'm a I'm gonna hit you with one of

687
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:05.480
<v Speaker 3>the wildest ones that I'll hit you with the story

688
00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:09.960
<v Speaker 3>of Captain Donair. And then let's see, I kind of

689
00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:13.519
<v Speaker 3>already talked about the UFO flight a little bit. That's

690
00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:16.119
<v Speaker 3>something that somebody can just look into. Then I'll talk

691
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:19.519
<v Speaker 3>about Northwest twenty five oh one, because that one people

692
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:21.639
<v Speaker 3>might be a little familiar with because it was on

693
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:28.239
<v Speaker 3>Josh Gates Expedition Unknown for an episode, so people that

694
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:33.639
<v Speaker 3>earned that might know about that. So Captain Donair, this

695
00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:36.840
<v Speaker 3>is the prime example of just the weirdness in the

696
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:43.719
<v Speaker 3>Lake Michigan triangle. So in April twenty eighth, nineteen thirty seven,

697
00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:48.679
<v Speaker 3>Great Lakes Freighter the OS McFarland was making its way

698
00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:53.519
<v Speaker 3>across Lake Michigan to its final destination in Port Washington, Wisconsin.

699
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:56.719
<v Speaker 3>So it was coming from Erie, Pennsylvania. You know, the

700
00:42:56.880 --> 00:43:05.079
<v Speaker 3>travel transport ninety eight ninety eight one hundred tons of coal.

701
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:11.400
<v Speaker 3>So don't he's a really well respected captain. He's made

702
00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:15.960
<v Speaker 3>this trip plenty of times. They're making their way through

703
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:20.800
<v Speaker 3>the Straits of Mackinac and it's pretty if you've never

704
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:25.039
<v Speaker 3>been up to the Upper Peninsula across the Macanaw Bridge

705
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:28.280
<v Speaker 3>in the winter time, yeah, I know, it's in April.

706
00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:31.440
<v Speaker 3>That's still the winner in the up. It ain't spring

707
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:35.760
<v Speaker 3>till June. But there's giant chunks of ice. Man, there's

708
00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:38.840
<v Speaker 3>ice break. They had to send ice breakers and stuff.

709
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:41.760
<v Speaker 3>It's it's pretty big. It's five miles stretched a little

710
00:43:41.840 --> 00:43:45.480
<v Speaker 3>pass and it's dangerous. Man, it gets nasty in there.

711
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Giant wind tunnel two. Well, do'n air stayed up to

712
00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:56.639
<v Speaker 3>get his crew through there because that's the most stressful

713
00:43:56.800 --> 00:43:59.119
<v Speaker 3>part of the whole entire trip. So when he gets

714
00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:00.679
<v Speaker 3>done with that, they're like, oh, we should make our

715
00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:03.840
<v Speaker 3>port in a few hours. I'm gonna go take a nap.

716
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:06.960
<v Speaker 3>So he went to the captain's quarters began to take

717
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:10.000
<v Speaker 3>a nap. He told his first and second mates, Hey,

718
00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:14.960
<v Speaker 3>let's wake me up when we get about forty five

719
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:17.920
<v Speaker 3>minutes to an hour out, so I have time to

720
00:44:18.119 --> 00:44:21.400
<v Speaker 3>wake up and be ready to do all the paperwork

721
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:27.119
<v Speaker 3>and all that good stuff. So don't Air retreats to

722
00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:32.239
<v Speaker 3>his quarters. Time goes by. Everything that's going smooth well.

723
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:35.199
<v Speaker 3>First and second mate go beat on his door. Boom

724
00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:39.320
<v Speaker 3>boom boom boom boom. No response. Boom boom boom boom boom.

725
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:43.559
<v Speaker 3>Captain you in there, boom boom boom, no response. So

726
00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:50.840
<v Speaker 3>they go retrieve the secondary key. Man, I'm so sorry, man.

727
00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:54.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh you're good, but you drink gets your drink?

728
00:44:55.039 --> 00:45:02.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah sorry, but uh so they get the quartermaster key,

729
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:08.400
<v Speaker 3>pop it open. Nobody's in there, So they start going

730
00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:11.239
<v Speaker 3>around there. They're asking the crew, Hey, have you guys

731
00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:16.079
<v Speaker 3>seen captain? No, no, no, nobody's seen him. So then

732
00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:20.159
<v Speaker 3>they're like, maybe there was like a mutiny. You sure

733
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:24.480
<v Speaker 3>he didn't see anybody? No, nobody's seen him all. The

734
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:26.280
<v Speaker 3>only way that he could have gotten out of there

735
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:31.159
<v Speaker 3>is a tiny little porthole. From what everything I've read

736
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:34.480
<v Speaker 3>on it, dude like it was a small porthole that

737
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:36.840
<v Speaker 3>nobody's really gonna fit through unless you're like a real

738
00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:40.039
<v Speaker 3>tiny dude, and don't wasn't small enough to fit through

739
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:44.639
<v Speaker 3>that porthole. So the whole crew starts to panic a

740
00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:47.199
<v Speaker 3>little bit. They start searching the head to toe everywhere

741
00:45:48.360 --> 00:45:52.559
<v Speaker 3>where could he be. They can't find him. Well, there's

742
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:58.159
<v Speaker 3>been reports of strange lights and stuff along this path,

743
00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:04.400
<v Speaker 3>all this kind of weird stuff, magnetic stuff going on,

744
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:07.800
<v Speaker 3>and they just can't find him, and they never do.

745
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:11.880
<v Speaker 3>They never find Captain doing air. He just disappeared and

746
00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:14.159
<v Speaker 3>thin air out.

747
00:46:13.960 --> 00:46:18.079
<v Speaker 2>Of nowhere with the door locked, door locked.

748
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:21.880
<v Speaker 3>No way to get out, and there was people working

749
00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:23.719
<v Speaker 3>close enough to the door that they would have seen

750
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:27.280
<v Speaker 3>him coming out. Nope, he never came out. The dude

751
00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:36.719
<v Speaker 3>just disappeared. Which yeah, it's it's unexplainable. You know, it'd

752
00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:40.199
<v Speaker 3>be different if it was like just like a regular

753
00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:43.559
<v Speaker 3>worker or something like that. Oh, maybe he fell overboard

754
00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:46.559
<v Speaker 3>or you know, maybe there was something going on, but

755
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:51.519
<v Speaker 3>the captain just escaping and jumping off for no reason.

756
00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Which I know where they were going, they didn't need roads.

757
00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:57.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, but.

758
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Bringing disappeared, dude. You know, yeah, did that boat get

759
00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:05.840
<v Speaker 2>up to eighty eight miles an hour?

760
00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:10.199
<v Speaker 3>Uh? You know, I'm not quite sure. Maybe he did.

761
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:17.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh but you know, they sent out ships and all

762
00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:22.800
<v Speaker 3>that looking for it. They waited for bodies to wash

763
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:25.960
<v Speaker 3>upon the shore. No they never did.

764
00:47:26.599 --> 00:47:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Uh, So they made they end up making their delivery

765
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:32.039
<v Speaker 2>like they needed to, just without their captain.

766
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:35.960
<v Speaker 3>He just disappeared, yep. And then they all got like

767
00:47:36.360 --> 00:47:38.800
<v Speaker 3>had to go into a private investigation kind of deal,

768
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:42.480
<v Speaker 3>like for a because they thought the people on land

769
00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:44.679
<v Speaker 3>thought they murdered him, and they would have plenty of

770
00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:46.599
<v Speaker 3>time for clean up and all that kind of stuff.

771
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:50.960
<v Speaker 3>But just with all the other weird stuff that happens here,

772
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:55.840
<v Speaker 3>it's in elite Michigan, Trump, it just makes sense that

773
00:47:56.000 --> 00:48:00.519
<v Speaker 3>he could have just disappeared, and that's not a very

774
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:03.400
<v Speaker 3>common thing that you could say that it just makes

775
00:48:03.440 --> 00:48:06.039
<v Speaker 3>sense for a dude to disappear into thin air compared

776
00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:09.239
<v Speaker 3>to over his crew killing him and throwing him overboard.

777
00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:16.639
<v Speaker 3>And that's where Northwest twenty five oh one comes in.

778
00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:22.440
<v Speaker 3>So this was in nineteen fifty. It was Northwest Orient

779
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:25.480
<v Speaker 3>Flight twenty five oh one. It was a Douglas DC four.

780
00:48:26.719 --> 00:48:30.599
<v Speaker 3>It was going from New York to Seattle, but they

781
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:34.719
<v Speaker 3>were going to do a layover in Minneapolis. So they

782
00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:41.840
<v Speaker 3>contact the air traffic control in Chicago. At the last

783
00:48:41.840 --> 00:48:43.679
<v Speaker 3>they heard from it was at eleven thirteen. It was

784
00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:47.559
<v Speaker 3>supposed to hit Milwaukee at eleven thirty. They don't hear anything.

785
00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:54.280
<v Speaker 3>There was a storm going on, as there always is

786
00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:58.480
<v Speaker 3>over Lake, Michigan, and after half an hour of no

787
00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:02.760
<v Speaker 3>response when they were supposed to be, they start throwing

788
00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:05.480
<v Speaker 3>out emergency signals for a missing craft. They're not picking

789
00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:09.320
<v Speaker 3>up anything on the radars, nothing like that. By the

790
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:12.760
<v Speaker 3>next morning they realized this plane had never landed anywhere.

791
00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:15.440
<v Speaker 3>They're thinking maybe it went off to like another airport

792
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:19.719
<v Speaker 3>or something like that and did an emergency landing or something,

793
00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:25.639
<v Speaker 3>but no, they never were so they sent out a

794
00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:32.119
<v Speaker 3>ton of cruis. There was a couple oil slicks off

795
00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:35.480
<v Speaker 3>the shore of South Milwaukee, but divers didn't find anything.

796
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:41.159
<v Speaker 3>After two days of a missing the search area went

797
00:49:41.159 --> 00:49:44.599
<v Speaker 3>from sixty mile radius to one hundred and seventy miles,

798
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:47.519
<v Speaker 3>so they were searching an area bigger than the state

799
00:49:47.519 --> 00:49:53.400
<v Speaker 3>of Vermont for this thing. So they began to start thinking, oh,

800
00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:56.159
<v Speaker 3>they were searching on the wrong side of the lake,

801
00:49:57.559 --> 00:50:02.639
<v Speaker 3>and that it was down near South Haven, Michigan, which

802
00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:08.400
<v Speaker 3>is twenty minutes away from where these molon heads are supposedly,

803
00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:13.719
<v Speaker 3>and that the grims the remains of the crash and

804
00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:20.559
<v Speaker 3>it's fifty eight victims washed ashore, but no big pieces

805
00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:25.719
<v Speaker 3>of the plane or any complete bodies were ever found,

806
00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:31.440
<v Speaker 3>dude like whatsoever. So they just made a mass grave

807
00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:36.880
<v Speaker 3>and just assumed that these were the people that went

808
00:50:36.920 --> 00:50:40.679
<v Speaker 3>down in that plane crash. Well, what I don't have

809
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:44.800
<v Speaker 3>in my notes here is that a couple of years ago,

810
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:49.320
<v Speaker 3>like six seven years ago, there was in South Haven

811
00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:54.480
<v Speaker 3>more mysterious plane parts and body parts just washed up

812
00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:58.920
<v Speaker 3>on the beach, and they don't know where it was from.

813
00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:04.280
<v Speaker 3>Some theoriz it was from this plane crash, But the

814
00:51:04.320 --> 00:51:07.039
<v Speaker 3>plane crash happened sixty seven years ago. If this was

815
00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:12.320
<v Speaker 3>twenty nineteen, I think it was. It was twenty seventeen

816
00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:15.639
<v Speaker 3>to twenty nineteen area. I just remember being all over

817
00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:18.239
<v Speaker 3>the news. So if they're saying this from this, ain't

818
00:51:18.280 --> 00:51:23.039
<v Speaker 3>nobody gonna survive that long. If it was Lake Superior, okay,

819
00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:24.519
<v Speaker 3>but then it would be at the bottom of the lake.

820
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:27.440
<v Speaker 3>It ain't gonna float up because it's so cold. So

821
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:30.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm wondering, did they go through like a time portal

822
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:36.840
<v Speaker 3>or something like that. Possibly did this plane transcendent, because

823
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:41.320
<v Speaker 3>like the black boxes were just becoming a thing at

824
00:51:41.320 --> 00:51:44.800
<v Speaker 3>that time, so the plane may have had one, may

825
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:45.159
<v Speaker 3>not have.

826
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:49.719
<v Speaker 2>But the fact you said all the alien spottings and

827
00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:52.440
<v Speaker 2>them coming out of the water. Then you have that

828
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:56.000
<v Speaker 2>new footage now that's out of that Malaysia flight where

829
00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:59.440
<v Speaker 2>those orbs come out and was circling the plane and stuff.

830
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:00.559
<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a possibility. And even even that made

832
00:52:03.519 --> 00:52:06.760
<v Speaker 2>that TV series. I watched the first season of it.

833
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<v Speaker 2>It was good. Shoot, I can't remember the name of

834
00:52:12.920 --> 00:52:15.000
<v Speaker 2>it now, but it was a big hit. But it

835
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<v Speaker 2>was kind of based off of that flight that disappeared

836
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<v Speaker 2>because in the show, these group of people were flying

837
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<v Speaker 2>and they flew through a storm.

838
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know.

839
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<v Speaker 2>It was this electoral magnetic storm, and it sucked them

840
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:33.199
<v Speaker 2>into like a time lapse wormhole, and no one could

841
00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:36.360
<v Speaker 2>find them. They searched for like ten or fifteen years

842
00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:38.320
<v Speaker 2>and couldn't find them. Then all of a sudden, ten

843
00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:43.400
<v Speaker 2>fifteen years later, that plane lands in the runway of

844
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:45.719
<v Speaker 2>the airport that it was supposed to go to. The

845
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:48.400
<v Speaker 2>people get out and they think nothing's happened. They just

846
00:52:48.679 --> 00:52:51.599
<v Speaker 2>landed from their plane flight. But now a lot of

847
00:52:51.639 --> 00:52:54.280
<v Speaker 2>their family members are dead or remarried, and they're like,

848
00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:57.440
<v Speaker 2>what the hell? Yeah, have you been gone for fifteen years?

849
00:52:57.480 --> 00:53:00.400
<v Speaker 3>Bro? What? My wife just started watching that show. I

850
00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:03.159
<v Speaker 3>can't remember it's not I know it's on Netflix. Yeah,

851
00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:09.639
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, man, yeah that's what it is. Yeah, because

852
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:11.559
<v Speaker 3>I told her, oh, this is just a rip off

853
00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:17.079
<v Speaker 3>a lost and yeah, man, it's It's a weird area

854
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:20.079
<v Speaker 3>for sure. I Mean, I've seen my fair share of

855
00:53:20.199 --> 00:53:23.559
<v Speaker 3>UFOs over the lake growing up, because where I lived,

856
00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:27.599
<v Speaker 3>I can look out over the lake and weird lights

857
00:53:27.639 --> 00:53:30.840
<v Speaker 3>all the time that were not planes. There's so much

858
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:34.920
<v Speaker 3>plane traffic in that area. I knew what a plane

859
00:53:34.920 --> 00:53:40.000
<v Speaker 3>looked like, and I knew what wasn't a plane. Yeah, man,

860
00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:42.159
<v Speaker 3>it's the area is just wild, and there's a lot

861
00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:45.039
<v Speaker 3>more stories that people can look into it. Those are

862
00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:47.400
<v Speaker 3>just like two of my favorite ones because they just

863
00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:54.800
<v Speaker 3>don't make any sense at all. And there's a lot

864
00:53:54.840 --> 00:54:01.159
<v Speaker 3>of a cult stuff going on too, Like we talked

865
00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:03.280
<v Speaker 3>about it could have been a mass rituals sign all

866
00:54:03.280 --> 00:54:09.199
<v Speaker 3>the stuff in Chicago, Gary, and there's a big cult

867
00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:12.719
<v Speaker 3>in there that I'm not going to get into right now,

868
00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:15.480
<v Speaker 3>but I'd love to once I do it. I'm just

869
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:18.280
<v Speaker 3>waiting to do it right. I haven't got the release

870
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<v Speaker 3>to do it how I want to do it yet,

871
00:54:21.440 --> 00:54:24.760
<v Speaker 3>but whenever I do, it'll be the first place I

872
00:54:24.840 --> 00:54:26.199
<v Speaker 3>go to let you know about it.

873
00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, deal, Deal, You.

874
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:33.519
<v Speaker 3>Got any other questions? Man? About man?

875
00:54:33.559 --> 00:54:35.599
<v Speaker 2>I got bunches more because I do want to pick

876
00:54:35.639 --> 00:54:37.039
<v Speaker 2>your brain on a lot of stuff, but I guess we'll

877
00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:39.039
<v Speaker 2>have to save those for another time. We're winding to

878
00:54:39.079 --> 00:54:41.719
<v Speaker 2>the end of our time. I'm surprised my camera hasn't

879
00:54:41.719 --> 00:54:44.920
<v Speaker 2>turned off already in sattery info, guys, I left my

880
00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:49.400
<v Speaker 2>camera on for over twenty four hours and it's still going. Baby,

881
00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:51.320
<v Speaker 2>you can't be the sony, but I don't want to

882
00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:57.760
<v Speaker 2>push it too far. My new camera up. Oh man,

883
00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:00.440
<v Speaker 2>but Riley before we go, brother, they want to have

884
00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:03.760
<v Speaker 2>you back. But for those that joined in maybe in

885
00:55:03.800 --> 00:55:06.039
<v Speaker 2>the middle of the episode or wasn't paying attention in

886
00:55:06.039 --> 00:55:08.400
<v Speaker 2>the front, let everybody know a little bit about your

887
00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:11.039
<v Speaker 2>show where they can find it and all your content.

888
00:55:11.079 --> 00:55:14.760
<v Speaker 3>Brother, all right, you can find me in Midwest Mythos

889
00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:19.679
<v Speaker 3>Podcast or just Midwest Mythos. I'm on the best place

890
00:55:19.719 --> 00:55:21.679
<v Speaker 3>to get a hold of me. Honestly, it's my Instagram,

891
00:55:21.719 --> 00:55:24.119
<v Speaker 3>which is Midwest Mythos. I do have a link tree

892
00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:27.840
<v Speaker 3>with everything down below is l I n K t

893
00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:31.960
<v Speaker 3>R dot ee slash Midwest Mythos Podcast. I have a

894
00:55:31.960 --> 00:55:34.440
<v Speaker 3>little link says contact me at the top. You can

895
00:55:34.599 --> 00:55:36.320
<v Speaker 3>send me a little email right there and it'll go

896
00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:39.880
<v Speaker 3>straight to me underneath there. Yeah, I have the YouTube channel,

897
00:55:41.199 --> 00:55:45.760
<v Speaker 3>shortcut to Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, all that kind

898
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:47.960
<v Speaker 3>of stuff where you can find that and if you

899
00:55:48.440 --> 00:55:52.719
<v Speaker 3>liked what you heard today, and like these kind of

900
00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:57.360
<v Speaker 3>deep dives local history things or people coming on and

901
00:55:57.400 --> 00:56:03.119
<v Speaker 3>talking about their local history experience with cryptids, aliens, all

902
00:56:03.119 --> 00:56:05.280
<v Speaker 3>that kind of stuff. I talk about it all the

903
00:56:05.320 --> 00:56:08.960
<v Speaker 3>time on the show. I would say, if you are

904
00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:11.599
<v Speaker 3>gonna pick up the show. You know, started like episodes

905
00:56:11.639 --> 00:56:14.360
<v Speaker 3>like thirty five, thirty six, and work your way up

906
00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:17.559
<v Speaker 3>At that point, I think I started to figure it out.

907
00:56:17.599 --> 00:56:21.280
<v Speaker 3>Everything before that, there's some good ones. I mean, everyone's good.

908
00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:23.119
<v Speaker 3>I love talking to everybody that I've had on But

909
00:56:23.639 --> 00:56:25.880
<v Speaker 3>as a podcaster I think I kind of started to

910
00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:27.800
<v Speaker 3>figure it out around the mid thirties.

911
00:56:28.199 --> 00:56:30.840
<v Speaker 2>I will object, don't listen to him, guys, go to

912
00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:36.480
<v Speaker 2>episode one and enjoy the journey. See the progress, all right,

913
00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:41.360
<v Speaker 2>listen to doc you know better than I. Sometimes it's

914
00:56:41.360 --> 00:56:43.039
<v Speaker 2>painful for us to hear because we know where we're

915
00:56:43.079 --> 00:56:45.639
<v Speaker 2>at now. But yeah, you know, don't do what we

916
00:56:45.719 --> 00:56:49.119
<v Speaker 2>do stuff that we hear and noticing things awful. They

917
00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:52.079
<v Speaker 2>probably would never even notice. We're just really hard on ourselves.

918
00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:54.480
<v Speaker 2>But when you go back, man, that's why I put

919
00:56:54.480 --> 00:56:57.960
<v Speaker 2>the dig stuff on my RSSV too. I didn't know

920
00:56:57.960 --> 00:57:00.679
<v Speaker 2>what the hell I was doing. The quality's awful, sound awful,

921
00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:03.440
<v Speaker 2>the editing sucks. But hey, man, when they go listen

922
00:57:03.480 --> 00:57:06.079
<v Speaker 2>to a new episode, they're like, man, if they've come

923
00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:07.079
<v Speaker 2>a long way.

924
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:11.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess there is some you know, there's a

925
00:57:11.079 --> 00:57:12.719
<v Speaker 3>lot of now that I think about it, there's a

926
00:57:12.760 --> 00:57:17.559
<v Speaker 3>lot of comic gold at in the early episodes, Episode five,

927
00:57:17.639 --> 00:57:20.159
<v Speaker 3>Tales of the Corn, I guarantee y'all will be laughing

928
00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:23.639
<v Speaker 3>like crazy. Had some real funny dudes on that one.

929
00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:28.000
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, man, and then you know, if you guys

930
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<v Speaker 3>want to hear Doc talk to me, I got an

931
00:57:30.960 --> 00:57:34.119
<v Speaker 3>episode with him too, so you should. We had a

932
00:57:34.119 --> 00:57:35.639
<v Speaker 3>lot of fun. We talked a lot of God on

933
00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:36.280
<v Speaker 3>that episode.

934
00:57:36.280 --> 00:57:40.639
<v Speaker 2>Man, h the Holy Spirit episode there, Yeah.

935
00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:43.880
<v Speaker 3>For sure, that's one of my favorites by far. Thank

936
00:57:43.880 --> 00:57:47.599
<v Speaker 3>you brother, Thank you brother for having me. And this

937
00:57:47.639 --> 00:57:49.480
<v Speaker 3>ain't gonna be. This ain't gonna be the last time,

938
00:57:49.559 --> 00:57:50.199
<v Speaker 3>I know for sure.

939
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:54.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, definitely, because you have a lot of pieces

940
00:57:54.199 --> 00:57:56.599
<v Speaker 2>that I don't have, and I'm greedy. I want them

941
00:57:56.599 --> 00:57:56.800
<v Speaker 2>my all.

942
00:57:56.880 --> 00:57:59.360
<v Speaker 3>Baby. Hey, that goes both ways, brother, both ways.

943
00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm, bel vida baby joke. Well, guys, I hope

944
00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:10.119
<v Speaker 2>you enjoyed that. B Sure, check out Riley stuff. Man.

945
00:58:10.440 --> 00:58:12.519
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, he's got all kinds of cool stuff

946
00:58:12.519 --> 00:58:16.800
<v Speaker 2>from different angles and cryptids and urban legends and lore. Uh,

947
00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:19.880
<v Speaker 2>he's got it all experiences and uh you get it

948
00:58:19.920 --> 00:58:23.400
<v Speaker 2>from a total different perspective than you will anybody else

949
00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:27.000
<v Speaker 2>in Riley's just a good dude. Okay. I'm sure you

950
00:58:27.039 --> 00:58:29.840
<v Speaker 2>could see that by looking at it. He's an authentic dude, Okay,

951
00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:33.159
<v Speaker 2>He's like he's one of us. He's a goony, so

952
00:58:33.239 --> 00:58:35.199
<v Speaker 2>go support a fellow gooney.

953
00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:37.760
<v Speaker 3>Die.

954
00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:41.119
<v Speaker 2>That's right. Well, guys, hope you enjoy that. Be sure

955
00:58:41.199 --> 00:58:44.239
<v Speaker 2>check out his stuff and just remember the difference between

956
00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:48.239
<v Speaker 2>the know on and the unknown is the journey. So

957
00:58:50.280 --> 00:58:51.159
<v Speaker 2>good journey, guys.