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Speaker 2: As we've discussed throughout the first couple of hours, last
Speaker 2: night was uh was as they as they say, the
Speaker 2: cardiac cards anytime Louis's in a close game, and really
Speaker 2: hadn't been that way in a while. I mean they've
Speaker 2: been either winning without much trouble here this season. But
Speaker 2: the cardiac cards. I feel like that's got to be
Speaker 2: a thing from like the beginning of Louisville basketball, and
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's a thing because cardiac arrest.
Speaker 3: From eras during like the some games during like the
Speaker 3: Patino era, too fast pace and like they were close games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the cardiac cards, that's what they're called when they
Speaker 2: make us, you know, nearly have cardiac arrest. And I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: I wasn't quite there last night, but I didn't feel
Speaker 2: good about it. And last night was, in fact, I
Speaker 2: think the worst we've seen this team look. But if
Speaker 2: that if that's the worst they look, and it's because
Speaker 2: they're just kind of they don't have it, I mean
Speaker 2: that's not ideal, and you hope that's not something that
Speaker 2: that lingers, but you know, it wasn't for lack of
Speaker 2: effort really, and it was I think they just were flat.
Speaker 2: They were they were just wasn't their night. And every
Speaker 2: team at every level, great bad has nights like that,
Speaker 2: Meaning a bad team can be bad and then have
Speaker 2: a night where it wasn't their night, and then they're
Speaker 2: really bad. So with all that said, the Sea Louis
Speaker 2: will still be able to find a way to win
Speaker 2: and really not wanting to be in the situation they
Speaker 2: were in, but sure enough they found themselves in that
Speaker 2: situation and they made they made the place necessary at
Speaker 2: the end to avoid what would have been a real
Speaker 2: resume loss. That's a positive now bouncing back from it,
Speaker 2: getting healthier and really getting their edge back. I think
Speaker 2: to say they've been like flat in the last few games,
Speaker 2: I think would be a stretch. They've had stretches of
Speaker 2: play in these last few games where I think they've
Speaker 2: they've looked like the team that has been sensational this
Speaker 2: year for the most part. But I just be like
Speaker 2: these last few games, it's been, it's been They've been
Speaker 2: kind of flat compared to where they were the majority
Speaker 2: of the acc stretch and look maybe that's just they
Speaker 2: were on fire and and and really were on a
Speaker 2: role that is going to be hard to recreate. Maybe
Speaker 2: that's the case. But still, even even if that, even
Speaker 2: even even if that, even if they were just like
Speaker 2: on a heater, that that was unbelievable when they were
Speaker 2: winning ten in a row, I still think last night,
Speaker 2: I mean, that was just a very uncharacteristic performance. But
Speaker 2: again they found a way to win. So the revivals
Speaker 2: still in full effect. And there's some things that you
Speaker 2: see here and there that really make it stand out,
Speaker 2: or maybe things you've experienced as a fan that really
Speaker 2: make you kind of reflect on, Wow, it is kind
Speaker 2: of crazy to think of where we were the last
Speaker 2: couple of years and where we are now. And one
Speaker 2: of those things just happened to me during the break
Speaker 2: because I'm scrolling through scrolling through Twitter here and I
Speaker 2: see the updated mock draft for the twenty twenty five
Speaker 2: NBA Draft. I'm sorry, twenty twenty six NBA draft. I
Speaker 2: keep forgetting that it's actually twenty twenty five right now,
Speaker 2: But the twenty twenty six NBA mock draft from Jonavangevoni
Speaker 2: of Draft Express ESPN. There's a Louisville player Mickel Brown
Speaker 2: is listed in the top ten here in the mock draft,
Speaker 2: and who knows if that ends up happening. If so,
Speaker 2: I would say that's a good thing for Louisville. But
Speaker 2: seeing Louisville have a guy projected to be taken in
Speaker 2: the top ten of the NBA Draft, I mean, I
Speaker 2: was gonna say, been a while since we've been there?
Speaker 2: Have we ever been there? I mean, obviously louisll has
Speaker 2: had number one picks or no. I number one pick
Speaker 2: with Purvis, Ellison and griff I think was number two
Speaker 2: or number three. But I don't know. The highest NBA
Speaker 2: draft pick in my lifetime, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, is it is it? Maybe it's Samaki. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Samachi went ninth overall. That was in ninety six. I
Speaker 2: do remember that because I remember his suit. But other
Speaker 2: than that, I mean Louisville in my lifetime, I mean
Speaker 2: Felton Spencer went sixth overall. Forgot about that, and that
Speaker 2: was in nineteen ninety I was a baby. I forgot
Speaker 2: Felton went number two or Felton went number six. But
Speaker 2: the the highest, yeah, Louisville's had a number they've had
Speaker 2: one number one pick purpose Ellison, which of course I
Speaker 2: hate it for purpose, which kind of feel differently about him,
Speaker 2: given that he doesn't seemingly give a damn about Louisville
Speaker 2: at all, But to defend him as a player, he
Speaker 2: did not live up to having a career as like,
Speaker 2: you know, a guy who you would have expected to
Speaker 2: be taken with the number one pick. But I always
Speaker 2: you know, to call somebody who played in the NBA
Speaker 2: for over a decade a bust, Like I just think
Speaker 2: that's that's just wild. But I get you know, when
Speaker 2: you are the number one pick, there's crazy, crazy expectations
Speaker 2: that are hard to live up to. Like guys can
Speaker 2: guys can reflect on a career after being taken number
Speaker 2: one where they played fifteen years and everybody would say
Speaker 2: they were a good player, but a lot of others
Speaker 2: would still also include, well, yeah, but they didn't they
Speaker 2: were the number one pick, because that's a that's a
Speaker 2: high standard to live up to. So three number two
Speaker 2: picks griff in eighty, Wes unseld in sixty eight, and
Speaker 2: Charlie Tyre in fifty seven, and then gosh, I'm I
Speaker 2: feel like I'm pretty good at you know my UFL
Speaker 2: basketball knowledge, I did not realize Rodney McRae was the
Speaker 2: number three pick in nineteen eighty three, and then Felton
Speaker 2: Spencer number six, Lancaster Gordon was number eight, Bridgeman number eight,
Speaker 2: and Don Goldstein back in fifty nine. You remember that
Speaker 2: fifty nine draft, don't you, Austin Don gold Yeah, like
Speaker 2: it was yesterday. Don Goldstein went number eight. Yeah, we're
Speaker 2: watching on the picture screen. Wait a second, I made
Speaker 2: I made a mistake here Goldstein went number eight, but
Speaker 2: it was in the second round. How could you forget? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: my mistake. And yeah, Donovan was number thirteen. I remember
Speaker 2: te Will being number eleven and Old Clark being number
Speaker 2: fourteen two lottery picks. That's why do I remember Earl
Speaker 2: Clark going before t Will. I don't know, I I remember.
Speaker 2: And this isn't like a like we've done this on
Speaker 2: the show before, but I haven't done it in a
Speaker 2: long time, because it really it's I find it interesting
Speaker 2: just to hear perspectives from people. But I also, you know,
Speaker 2: there's really it only it only stands to make me
Speaker 2: look like I'm anti Louisville, which I fought against that
Speaker 2: for a long time during the Kenny Payne era, but
Speaker 2: like unpopular opinion about Louisville meaning like something that you believe,
Speaker 2: but you don't really say it around other Louisville fans
Speaker 2: because you know they would attack you. Not physically, but
Speaker 2: you know, think about you, Like just imagine yourself at
Speaker 2: a tailgate with Louisville fans. Yeah, and you're shooting the
Speaker 2: you know what, and you've got an opinion that you
Speaker 2: know everybody there would disagree with because you know it's
Speaker 2: not a pro Louisville thought. I I've always this is mine.
Speaker 2: I felt like Earl Clark very good, very overrated, wow,
Speaker 2: because to me, he could have a no show night
Speaker 2: and Louisville will be fine. He also played and had
Speaker 2: really good games. But like Terrence Williams, was that team?
Speaker 2: Was that er? Sure? Like he will I mean he
Speaker 2: decided not to, you know, play with us, and I
Speaker 2: mean he We'll never know what happened at halftime in
Speaker 2: that Michigan State game, but sounds like he just decided, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's done. And that was one of the most painful
Speaker 2: losses ever when they lost to Goran Suton the suit on.
Speaker 2: So you know, Clark ended up Clark ended up having
Speaker 2: a good career in the NBA. Well, no he did not,
Speaker 2: I feel like I needed to say that, but like
Speaker 2: he didn't. He didn't live up to be a lottery
Speaker 2: a little bit longer. Well, so he had a weird career,
Speaker 2: said so he got I mean, longevity matters. He got
Speaker 2: drafted in two thousand and nine, and he played for
Speaker 2: the Suns for two years and didn't do anything. And
Speaker 2: then he point I remember him been on the Lakers, right,
Speaker 2: so check this out. This is what happened. He ended
Speaker 2: up with Orlando and at that point he at least
Speaker 2: started playing some because the Suns they traded off his contract.
Speaker 2: They realized they I mean, they thought they made a
Speaker 2: bad investment. So and again just disclaimer. Again, this is
Speaker 2: why I don't go here. He was a good player,
Speaker 2: But people I think acted like you bringing up that
Speaker 2: you thought he went earlier. Like I think people remember
Speaker 2: Clark as being better than t will or maybe they
Speaker 2: view them as the same. I believe that Terrence Williams,
Speaker 2: Unfortunately it sounds silly now because of how he's fallen
Speaker 2: apart as a human being, But like terre' Williams, in
Speaker 2: my opinion is the most talented player that ever watched
Speaker 2: play at Louisville in my lifetime. Donovan Mitchell is the
Speaker 2: best player, but he wasn't that at Louisville. Terres Williams
Speaker 2: was phenomenal. Terrece Williams. Again, I think he would be
Speaker 2: currently still playing in the NBA at a high level
Speaker 2: if he wasn't a dumbass. And I hate that for him,
Speaker 2: but also it's a credit for Rick Patino, by the way,
Speaker 2: to this day is the only person at every level
Speaker 2: that has been able to successfully coach Terrence Williams, his
Speaker 2: high school coach. Couldn't He left basketball, played football and
Speaker 2: then came back to basketball and at Louisville. You know,
Speaker 2: he was kind of a character, but like he was
Speaker 2: a hell of a player, competitor, really good. NBA was
Speaker 2: the first player to ever be sent to the D
Speaker 2: League for disciplinary Like they didn't send you there because
Speaker 2: you couldn't play, they're punishing you. And then of course
Speaker 2: he got basically black ball from the league because he
Speaker 2: just wasn't a good locker room guy. And then he
Speaker 2: gets in trouble with the Feds and some fraud schemes.
Speaker 2: So anyways, Tewell was great and I'll always stand by that.
Speaker 2: But anyways, Earl in Orlando played with Dwight Howard and
Speaker 2: that was when the Magic were really good with Dwight,
Speaker 2: and he got some minutes but never really did much
Speaker 2: of anything. And then it was with the Lakers in
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen where he ended up getting a bigger role,
Speaker 2: played twenty best year of his career. And then after
Speaker 2: that he ended up signing a contract with the Calves.
Speaker 2: They cut ties, and then he was with the Knicks
Speaker 2: for nine games, the Nets for ten games the following season,
Speaker 2: and since then he's been bouncing around. So you know,
Speaker 2: he didn't he didn't live up to his NBA lottery pick,
Speaker 2: but still a really good player. But I just that's
Speaker 2: always something and you know what, I just because I'm
Speaker 2: wasting time, we need to move on to something else.
Speaker 2: But the other opinion that I did long ago, this
Speaker 2: was this was like twenty seventeen, so like this was
Speaker 2: whenever I think Jerich was still around, and this was
Speaker 2: still very much like the marketing branding of U of
Speaker 2: L Athletics, and I always thought it was really stupid,
Speaker 2: and I was afraid to say it, but I finally
Speaker 2: said it, and I remember feeling like relief, knowing that,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm not alone. A lot of people
Speaker 2: actually agree with me. L one C four is really stupid,
Speaker 2: not creative, not clever. It's just lame. I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: not anti l one C four, like yeah, but I
Speaker 2: just I don't like I you know, like louis first
Speaker 2: cards forever. Okay, well that.
Speaker 3: Was during the era like when Twitter first came a
Speaker 3: thing in hashtag. Yeah, like you just wanted a hashtag
Speaker 3: to be or brand, and that's what Louisville's I guess
Speaker 3: brand was then.
Speaker 2: So what I don't understand is like Rick Patino, he
Speaker 2: had his own Adidas U OFL basketball gear, like for Louisville,
Speaker 2: I mean, Rick petina on some people realize this or
Speaker 2: not going it's going back in the day. Like part
Speaker 2: of how Louisville was able to pay for Rick Patino,
Speaker 2: he brought him Adidas as a partner. Well, the majority
Speaker 2: of Rick's In fact, the majority of the Adida's money
Speaker 2: initially was to pay Rick Patino salary because he brought
Speaker 2: them here. We didn't know we were not an Adida
Speaker 2: school until Rick got here and he got it done.
Speaker 2: So anyways, which is funny. Then then he thought a
Speaker 2: lawsuit against him and all that. So but but with Rick,
Speaker 2: he had some U of L basketball gear Adidas that
Speaker 2: was not for sale. It was just produced for the
Speaker 2: program and it said Louisville First like that was sort
Speaker 2: of their like their thing, and that I think hits
Speaker 2: Louisville First Cards forever. It just it's kind jumping the shark.
Speaker 2: It just it's not the worst thing. I just think
Speaker 2: it's lame. Like it was hard for me to be like, yeah,
Speaker 2: l one C four Yeah, I just I just you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, it just doesn't so you know,
Speaker 2: teenage me was loving the hand hashtag yeah because because
Speaker 2: you were. Yeah, and there's nothing wrong with anybody who
Speaker 2: did it. I don't judge anybody who was embracing what
Speaker 2: judged me what the school was embracing. I just I
Speaker 2: always felt like, man, that's kind of lame. But again,
Speaker 2: these are like these things or why they're unpopular because
Speaker 2: I know I am in the minority, and you know
Speaker 2: it starts to make people second guess you, Oh yeah, no, no,
Speaker 2: wonder this guy has been just bagging on Kenny Payne
Speaker 2: for two years. He doesn't. He doesn't like YO one
Speaker 2: C four, he knows Mad Jones, he's a plan. He
Speaker 2: doesn't even go here. Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 3: Correct me if I'm wrong, because I was always a
Speaker 3: huge tea will fam and I also loved Earl Clark.
Speaker 3: I I'll agree pretty great by the way, absolutely, I'll
Speaker 3: agree with your sentiment that overrated. I like Terrence Williams better,
Speaker 3: but I thought that Earl Clark would have a much
Speaker 3: higher NBA ceiling, of course, just.
Speaker 2: Because of the translated for sure, the length and everything.
Speaker 2: Length matters, I've heard absolutely, and he could stretch the floor.
Speaker 3: He could get out there and play multiple positions, where
Speaker 3: it seems like when Terrence Williams was here, it seemed
Speaker 3: like he was just kind of relegated to that three spot.
Speaker 2: Is always.
Speaker 3: I never saw him as a great ball handler, and
Speaker 3: I felt like that's what he had to be in
Speaker 3: the NBA. He was a little bit undersized to be
Speaker 3: a small forward, which meant he had to go to
Speaker 3: the point guard or shooting guard, and I felt like
Speaker 3: that probably hampered him a little bit, just because he
Speaker 3: was just always and once again, this is just the
Speaker 3: way I viewed him. He looked at the guy that
Speaker 3: had the superstar donk. He would hit, he would hit
Speaker 3: good threes, a fantastic passer, and a really good defensive,
Speaker 3: really good defensive player. So I felt like he would
Speaker 3: have fit in at the one or two, but he
Speaker 3: just felt undersized because it just seemed like he played
Speaker 3: small forward.
Speaker 2: In college. He became a good shooter, he was always
Speaker 2: a good defender, could is one of the best athletes
Speaker 2: we've ever had at U of L. And the two
Speaker 2: things about him that didn't I think get enough you know, attention,
Speaker 2: not that they were like ignored, but he was a
Speaker 2: phenomenal passer and he was a really good rebounder. I
Speaker 2: mean just because he was six six and athletic as
Speaker 2: can be so hell of a player. But yeah, things
Speaker 2: have kind of fallen fallen apart from let me let
Speaker 2: me defend Earl Clark and defend uh guy, because Earl
Speaker 2: Earl would be the best player on most of the
Speaker 2: Louisville teams I've watched in my lifetime, but Terrence was better.
Speaker 2: And I just feel like because I was so surprised
Speaker 2: that others didn't view it as tea will being that special.
Speaker 2: I guess that's why I've always felt like, I don't
Speaker 2: think that Earl's as good as you guys do. But
Speaker 2: but it wasn't like I thought he was bad, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, right? I mean he was super
Speaker 2: talented and he was a character too. I mean I
Speaker 2: I meani. He always had a hive his voice. I
Speaker 2: remember he had the Earl Clark celebrity game that was
Speaker 2: going to be played in Louisville somewhere, but they ended
Speaker 2: up moving into Bulletest High School. Was a wild scene
Speaker 2: back in like two thousand and eleven because Earl Clark
Speaker 2: was playing with the Magic Dwight Howard was a was
Speaker 2: at Bullet's High School. Duncan On people j R. Smith
Speaker 2: was there because Chris Smith was at Louisville at the time.
Speaker 2: It was a wild, wild scene. I got some stories
Speaker 2: that are that are you know all timersmember. I remember
Speaker 2: going to the press conference at the I think it
Speaker 2: was at the Sealbach Ballroom. They had a press conference
Speaker 2: for Earl. And this time I was pretty early in
Speaker 2: like media. I had just gotten an opportunity to radio
Speaker 2: at a different station, but I was doing like one
Speaker 2: day a week. I was real big in the blog.
Speaker 2: I was. I was in the blog world. And you
Speaker 2: know I didn't cover the team when Earl played. I
Speaker 2: I mean Earl and I are the same exact age,
Speaker 2: so Earl, which probably makes people feel older now thinking that.
Speaker 2: But anyways, Earl, you know, he he's dabbing up c L. Brown,
Speaker 2: And you know the guys who were in the locker
Speaker 2: room covering him during his time that he remembered Kendrick Haskins,
Speaker 2: those guys, And I remember he probably didn't recognize me,
Speaker 2: but he wanted.
Speaker 4: To, so he was like, what's up, playboy. He didn't
Speaker 4: know my name, so he called me playboy, and I
Speaker 4: just thought, yeah, I am a playboy. I don't know
Speaker 4: what he means by that, but like if Earl Clark
Speaker 4: says I'm playboy, I'm playboy's right. So and then we
Speaker 4: were leaving Bulletese High School after the event, my wife
Speaker 4: and I were, and you've heard me tell the story
Speaker 4: about my piece of crap Mitsubishi.
Speaker 2: Eclipse that I think I've heard that one. So I
Speaker 2: have a Mitsubishi Eclipse that had no air conditioning and
Speaker 2: it was a convertible and the top of it was
Speaker 2: was was like black ragtop, and then I had black
Speaker 2: leather and because it's a small vehicle with very little
Speaker 2: window room, and because of just how the car is shaped,
Speaker 2: you can roll the windows down and you get no air.
Speaker 2: So I could do that, or I could put the
Speaker 2: top back, but if the sun's down, I'm going to
Speaker 2: sit there and bake. Yeah, So I oftentimes would drive
Speaker 2: with the when it was hot, but the sun wasn't out.
Speaker 2: It was a no brainer. Go topless, as they say,
Speaker 2: But not because I wanted to look cool, but because
Speaker 2: I wanted to breathe air conditioner. So I'm pulling out
Speaker 2: a Bulletese High School on Highway forty four to take
Speaker 2: a ride on Barn Road. And as I'm pulling out,
Speaker 2: I've got the top down. You know who else has
Speaker 2: a convertible nicer than mine? BMW, It's it's it's uh
Speaker 2: j R. Smith, of course, of course. And he's got
Speaker 2: three women in his vehicle, two in the back seat,
Speaker 2: one in the front. He's in its convertible. And you know,
Speaker 2: I think, because we're next to each other and I
Speaker 2: have a convertible, he thinks I want to race. Oh no,
Speaker 2: did not want a race. So we take a right
Speaker 2: I guess he's probably putting in the GPS. He didn't
Speaker 2: know what the hell he is. He's in Bullock County
Speaker 2: and he's taken a right it's gonna take him all
Speaker 2: the way down bar Chowne Road to probably hit the
Speaker 2: Snyder and and and he can get back to you know,
Speaker 2: closer to the areas he's probably familiar with in Louisville. Well,
Speaker 2: you know, I thought me not accelerating and just letting
Speaker 2: him drive off was was was the sign that I
Speaker 2: was not looking. I was not looking. I wasn't looking
Speaker 2: to go you know, Paul Walker, Vin Diesel running for
Speaker 2: Pink slips here. I was just gonna. I was just
Speaker 2: gonna concede. And then we get to the light and
Speaker 2: he's not yelling anything, he's not being it. He just
Speaker 2: like he wants to race. And finally I put the
Speaker 2: pedal to the medal and he took off and that
Speaker 2: was it. And I and I humored him really, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, like, all right, you want to go?
Speaker 2: Here we go.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I wrapped it up, and I'm like, this thing may
Speaker 2: blow up, we'll see. But if this gets if this
Speaker 2: just gets him away from me to where like you know,
Speaker 2: he wanted some action and you know fantastic. You never
Speaker 2: heard the story? No, I have not. That's great, it's funny.
Speaker 2: I have been doing this long enough, not to where
Speaker 2: I'm like some seasoned veteran, but like I got stories
Speaker 2: that I haven't shared in ten years that like I
Speaker 2: bet nobody's heard, you know what I mean. That's amazing.
Speaker 2: Not many people can say they've been in this. Who
Speaker 2: can say they've been in a street race with two
Speaker 2: topless vehicles with j R. Smith and Bullet County. I can,
Speaker 2: and three other women. It's right, and they were, they were,
Speaker 2: they were, they were great ladies. I'm sure. Just say
Speaker 2: that what a night. It was? All right. We gotta
Speaker 2: get to a we gotta get to a break. We'll
Speaker 2: come back talk a little more about Louisville's win last night,
Speaker 2: kind of what it means. We also need to take
Speaker 2: a look at Kentucky's matchup to night against Oklahoma because
Speaker 2: it does set up for one of those games that
Speaker 2: if they win, it's kind of what they're supposed to do,
Speaker 2: still going to be a quad one because of the
Speaker 2: SEC but it would be a loss that would probably
Speaker 2: be up there with one of their worst. But like again,
Speaker 2: then I would ask, what do they drop a seed
Speaker 2: line like their resume is so loaded with really good wins,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how much they can fall. So we'll
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Speaker 2: All right, so some big news in the NFL as
Speaker 2: they have announced they will implement the electronic or an
Speaker 2: electronic system to measure first downs this upcoming season. That
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Speaker 2: actually use some technology here to see if in fact
Speaker 2: these guys do are don't make the line to get
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Speaker 2: of all places, not doing it was kind of silly.
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Speaker 2: we've had a lot of advancements with how we do
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Speaker 5: What's going on? Nick?
Speaker 2: How are we doing?
Speaker 5: Hey?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 5: You know I had to call in. I'm nerd now
Speaker 5: because it seems like Britt Michaels is a hot topic today.
Speaker 5: So I just wanted to pick yourr a little bit.
Speaker 5: You know, me and my you know wife have gone
Speaker 5: to see him over thirty five times. Fancy. I am serious,
Speaker 5: and I take the dedication that is dedication, and my
Speaker 5: wife in this area, I can say, is the biggest
Speaker 5: Brett Michael's fan. I mean, there might be people that
Speaker 5: might disagree, but I gotta say but uh, but what
Speaker 5: you were saying earlier about standing in line, getting the beer,
Speaker 5: hurry up the song, it's it is just that, you know,
Speaker 5: Brett Michaels knows how to get everybody up and moving.
Speaker 5: Great performer. Like some concerts we go to and people
Speaker 5: are just sitting there and they're they're not standing up
Speaker 5: and cheering, They're chewing on their jarr tae, and it's
Speaker 5: it's it's you know, it's but Brett, he just he
Speaker 5: knows how to get get the get the steamrolling. And
Speaker 5: it's just gonna be a great show. So if you
Speaker 5: ever have a chance to go see him in a
Speaker 5: you know, kind of a smaller setting like the casinos, man,
Speaker 5: you need to go, because you will. You will not
Speaker 5: be disappointed it, that's for certain. So kudos and it's
Speaker 5: going to be a great show. And thank you so
Speaker 5: much for all the great radio.
Speaker 2: Thank you man.
Speaker 5: I love you guys, and keep on rocking, baby, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thanks Kirk. Yeah, so we had some tickets to give
Speaker 2: away for Brett Michael's earlier in the show, and we
Speaker 2: did in the four o'clock hour, and I was just
Speaker 2: sharing sort of my story about Brett Michaels being at
Speaker 2: the Hometown Rising concert a few years actually, it's been
Speaker 2: about five years ago now, and he didn't seem like
Speaker 2: one of the performers that I would have expect me
Speaker 2: of all the names. He wasn't like a current or
Speaker 2: even like an older country music artist. It was a
Speaker 2: country music festival, but he was there and I kind
Speaker 2: of thought it was odd, and sure enough I was
Speaker 2: there for his performance and he you know, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of ways you can be, you know, super successful
Speaker 2: in the entertainment business. In music, you can be you know,
Speaker 2: a great singer. You can be a great uh, you know,
Speaker 2: a great a great artist. You know, maybe it's not
Speaker 2: so much about your performance, but some you know, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of different ways you can have I guess
Speaker 2: you know, you're I don't want to say you're claim
Speaker 2: to fame because your music in general is why you're
Speaker 2: is the claim to fame, but maybe sort of what
Speaker 2: what your your calling card as as a as a
Speaker 2: as an entertainer, because Brett Michaels can he just he
Speaker 2: was a guy that, like I didn't expect to be
Speaker 2: feeling all right, here we go, like this is awesome.
Speaker 2: This guy's covering a lot of songs and he's playing
Speaker 2: some stuff from of course the Poison Days. But like
Speaker 2: there's there is there's a lot of guys who can guys, gals, artists, whatever,
Speaker 2: bands that when when they've got a lot of momentum,
Speaker 2: or maybe they just had a phenomenal run for a
Speaker 2: couple of decades to where they can tour until they're
Speaker 2: dead and still fill up shows and all that, and
Speaker 2: you know, props to them. But you know there's some
Speaker 2: people who just have the gift of like being entertaining
Speaker 2: and being an entertainer. And I never would have thought
Speaker 2: of Brett Michaels because again, you know, when he was
Speaker 2: really a big deal, it was a little before my time,
Speaker 2: but it always stood out to me like this guy,
Speaker 2: he gets it. I know why if they needed somebody
Speaker 2: to you know, take the stage midway through the Saturday set,
Speaker 2: he was more than more than capable of doing exactly
Speaker 2: that and keeping the energy up. So yeah, shut out
Speaker 2: Brett Michaels. Who knew we'd have a Brett Michael's Day today.
Speaker 2: But here we are, I'm saying here we are, all right.
Speaker 2: So Georgia they are the first school that I've seen
Speaker 2: that has at least leaked it made it public. I
Speaker 2: don't know if they put out a release, but it
Speaker 2: is now out there and it's gotten a lot of attention.
Speaker 1: Today.
Speaker 2: They have now put out how they're going to share
Speaker 2: the revenue that they're going to have to start sharing
Speaker 2: starting next year. So obviously, the NC DOUBLEA lawsuit, the
Speaker 2: settlement has required for a lot of money to be
Speaker 2: paid back to athletes that you know, again what it
Speaker 2: comes down to, to put it as simple as possible,
Speaker 2: regardless of what you think or agree, the Supreme Court
Speaker 2: just I mean, they ruled that what the NC DOUBLEA
Speaker 2: has done really since the beginning of time is illegal.
Speaker 2: Now you can say that that's not you don't agree,
Speaker 2: but like that's all that matters, right, using these athletes
Speaker 2: as employees and not sharing revenue with them, as the
Speaker 2: incident became a billion dollar business mostly because of the
Speaker 2: nstead of a tournament like that was ruled to be illegal. Therefore,
Speaker 2: there's a settlement in place, and moving forward, these universities
Speaker 2: now have to share revenue. Actually I guess, I guess
Speaker 2: you don't have to. I mean you have to to
Speaker 2: an extent. In fact, I need to get the specifics
Speaker 2: of it, because I'm not sure if it's something that
Speaker 2: they I mean, all I know is that you can
Speaker 2: share up to twenty million. As far as like, you
Speaker 2: know what the required amount is. I don't know. But
Speaker 2: as I've said, since this became known, that that was
Speaker 2: going to be, that was going to be the number.
Speaker 2: If you are out there not sharing the maximum, it's
Speaker 2: gonna hurt you because you're going to look like you're
Speaker 2: not you know, you're you're you're greedy, you don't have
Speaker 2: enough money you want to you need to be even
Speaker 2: if it's not true. I guess you could, you know,
Speaker 2: you could fake it and act like he got all
Speaker 2: the money, but then when the checks don't clear, then
Speaker 2: that's that's the worst to look possible for you. That's
Speaker 2: why Leonard Hamilton's done. I mean, look, there's a lawsuit
Speaker 2: currently that he is involved in that Florida State's involved
Speaker 2: in because he was talking all this nil money that
Speaker 2: like didn't exist. So the scenario where you're publicly out
Speaker 2: there saying, yeah, we're not going to share as much
Speaker 2: as the other schools, like, it may work out for you,
Speaker 2: but like probably not. Now if you're a big eas
Speaker 2: school and you don't have football, it's a little different.
Speaker 2: So all the schools that want to compete and when
Speaker 2: at the highest level, are going to be sharing I
Speaker 2: guess you know, roughly twenty million. Now, how they're going
Speaker 2: to split it up among football, basketball, women's basketball. That's
Speaker 2: really each school's own decision. They can decide what they
Speaker 2: want to do. So the decision from Georgia is this,
Speaker 2: It'll be twenty point five million dollars that they're going
Speaker 2: to share, and they're also using And this is something
Speaker 2: that I didn't mean, I haven't followed it close enough
Speaker 2: to know exactly how many schools are going to follow
Speaker 2: what Georgia did here, but I'm assuming a lot will.
Speaker 2: But two point five million of the twenty point five
Speaker 2: million is going to be new scholarships of ALE. So
Speaker 2: they're using that to basically say we're gonna give more.
Speaker 2: We're gonna give more scholarships, because that's one thing the
Speaker 2: NAA recently it is they're long They're no longer I mean,
Speaker 2: are they again. It's so hard to keep up with
Speaker 2: it because it's so different than it used to be,
Speaker 2: and it seems like it changes all the time. Anytime
Speaker 2: they put something in motion. It seems like somebody fights
Speaker 2: it and then the NSAA has to start over. So I
Speaker 2: feel like it's not accurate when I say it that
Speaker 2: they've removed the cap as far as scholarships that you
Speaker 2: can have. But either way two point five actually what
Speaker 2: they may be doing is and this isn't even relevant.
Speaker 2: But now now I'm curious because I would imagine there's
Speaker 2: certain schools that like they aren't going to be able
Speaker 2: to they're not going to pay you, like the revenue
Speaker 2: sharing will not go Like I'll give you the breakdown,
Speaker 2: thirteen point five million of the of the actual money
Speaker 2: that's going to be paid to athletes, So actually it's
Speaker 2: eighteen million overall because two point five million is going
Speaker 2: to be scholarships. So eighteen million, thirteen point five of
Speaker 2: that is going to go to football. I thought it'd
Speaker 2: be more, to be honest with you, two point seven
Speaker 2: million is gonna be for men's basketball, nine hundred k
Speaker 2: is gonna be for women's basketball, and the remaining nine
Speaker 2: hundred thousand, the remaining nine hundred thousand dollars is gonna
Speaker 2: be for athletes and other sports. So what's gonna happen here?
Speaker 2: There are like there's there's there's athletes that will no
Speaker 2: longer like they're gonna have less athletes. So that's that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's where I got confused. So there are gonna be
Speaker 2: less people on scholarship. However, they now have two point
Speaker 2: five million dollars in scholarship money because there's a lot
Speaker 2: of athletes on campus across the country at big schools
Speaker 2: that are not on full rides. Full ride scholarships are
Speaker 2: really only for the big sports. I mean baseball. I mean,
Speaker 2: you got guys that are all Americans that are expected
Speaker 2: to be drafted that that are not on a full scholarship.
Speaker 2: I mean it's that's I think people know that. But
Speaker 2: what this is doing is that the two point five
Speaker 2: million in scholarships, they're gonna be able to now make
Speaker 2: it to wear. Okay, we can't pay you, like, we're
Speaker 2: not gonna we're not gonna share thirteen million with the
Speaker 2: tennis team or with the baseball team, because we just
Speaker 2: you know, that's not how we're gonna do it. But
Speaker 2: you now no longer have to pay because we're putting
Speaker 2: you on. I mean maybe I guess that's what the
Speaker 2: two point five million in scholarship means, but I'm curious
Speaker 2: to see if others are really the same exact way,
Speaker 2: because this, to me, to my knowledge, this is the
Speaker 2: first time we've actually seen somebody publicly have it out
Speaker 2: there that this is how they're gonna distribute and share revenue.
Speaker 2: And you know, for those that think maybe this just
Speaker 2: gets rid of ANIL, a little change in IL, but
Speaker 2: NIL is still going to be a factor because again,
Speaker 2: this is now really just a big stipend the rev
Speaker 2: share like everybody's getting, you know, how they're gonna do
Speaker 2: it with like and that's by and by the way,
Speaker 2: that's why the GM position has become more critical than
Speaker 2: ever because you're not just out there rounding up in
Speaker 2: IL money to you know, have have bags of money
Speaker 2: to give out to players who want to come to
Speaker 2: play for you in the portal. That's still gonna be
Speaker 2: a thing. But the GM, the reason they're gonna make
Speaker 2: them over a million dollars is because they are responsible
Speaker 2: for Hey, uh, I know that thirteen point five million
Speaker 2: is gonna be spread out to probably one hundred different
Speaker 2: athletes for Georgia football. So the GM's got to figure
Speaker 2: out how that's gonna all work out, Like how you're
Speaker 2: gonna split it up like that's a big job. And
Speaker 2: then also you got to still handle an IL as well.
Speaker 2: So in IL, it's really still just gonna be like
Speaker 2: the cherry on top of the kicker, if you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, right like the the like, there's gonna
Speaker 2: be guys who know they're getting really roughly the same
Speaker 2: in the rev share because they can pick wherever they
Speaker 2: want they want to go, But who's gonna give the
Speaker 2: most in IL money that'll probably still be the big
Speaker 2: factor and where a lot of guys go to school.
Speaker 2: Speaking of that, Nate ament, he is a top he's
Speaker 2: like top five. I'm gonna pull it up here because
Speaker 2: I he's somebody that Louisville has been in on and
Speaker 2: recruiting for a while among other schools. He's down to
Speaker 2: his top five. He's gonna make his decision on April first,
Speaker 2: and he's got like a crowdsourcing like fundraising thing that
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, I don't care enough to like.
Speaker 2: And I shouldn't say don't care about this guy. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's projected to be the fourth pick in the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty sixth draft, so if he wants to join mckel
Speaker 2: brown junior in this class along with Sonny who's coming
Speaker 2: over from from from Europe, who, by the way, I
Speaker 2: don't know if you guys saw it, he became like
Speaker 2: they he entered the twenty twenty five twenty four to
Speaker 2: seven Sports Recruiting database four star top twenty five player overall.
Speaker 2: So like, if Nata Mitt wants to come and play
Speaker 2: and join those two guys, like hell yeah, and it'd
Speaker 2: be great to get him. So I'm not saying like
Speaker 2: I don't care about him, but like don't I just
Speaker 2: don't get into the weeds when it comes to like
Speaker 2: recruiting write ups and whatnot, because especially with money being involved. Now,
Speaker 2: like these guys are wise When I say guys, I
Speaker 2: mean these kids, they're wise to utilize those interviews with
Speaker 2: the guys that work for rivals and twenty four seven
Speaker 2: Sports and whatnot because they can put stuff out there
Speaker 2: to like let schools know, hey, looks like we got
Speaker 2: to up the money. Like they can they can use
Speaker 2: it to their advantage. I would do the same thing. So,
Speaker 2: like I just and another factor like having really good
Speaker 2: freshmen can help you, no doubt, but like it really
Speaker 2: is not as big of a priority. I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't know, they can be really good pieces that help you,
Speaker 2: but like building your team for one season with three
Speaker 2: or four top ten recruits, you should still be pretty good.
Speaker 2: But they're gonna be there one year because they they're
Speaker 2: gonna go to the NBA. And like, if you don't
Speaker 2: have really good pieces from the portal or really good
Speaker 2: pieces that you retain from your team, if they're not
Speaker 2: a like, then those freshmen will probably still look like
Speaker 2: future NBA players and you may have some flashes, but
Speaker 2: like the scenario where you're in it, you're good enough
Speaker 2: to like win your league and make a deep run.
Speaker 2: I just think it's it's gonna be harder and harder
Speaker 2: to do. So Nata meant he is down to five
Speaker 2: schools Louisville, Kentucky, Duke, Arkansas, and who's the other one? Yeah,
Speaker 2: the other one is Notre Dame, which is kind of random.
Speaker 2: So those that cover recruiting again, they know more than
Speaker 2: I than I do. They have continued to maintain that
Speaker 2: Louisville appears to be the school that you know, among
Speaker 2: the five that has maybe the best chance right now.
Speaker 2: And not to say those guys are lying, but like
Speaker 2: that doesn't do much for me anymore. I just don't,
Speaker 2: you know, not to be not to be the old guy.
Speaker 2: I believe it when I see it, or I'll worry
Speaker 2: about him when they get here. That's what That's what
Speaker 2: guys who didn't used to care about recruiting would say, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to sound like that guy, but I mean,
Speaker 2: if it's true that this guy just comes down to
Speaker 2: the highest bidder, Louisville gets him, cool if they don't, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't really care, So am I lying when I
Speaker 2: say that I'd love to get him, and it'd be
Speaker 2: awesome if I can also tell you where straight face
Speaker 2: that they don't get him, Like I'm not gonna lose
Speaker 2: any sleep. I mean, I'm just being honest because again,
Speaker 2: like I think Louisville can still be really good without
Speaker 2: getting him, because they've already got They're gonna have some
Speaker 2: good pieces coming back, believe it or not. Least we
Speaker 2: hope they've got guys that are sitting out. They can
Speaker 2: certainly help them when they're healthy next year. Mckel Brown
Speaker 2: Junior and Pat Kelsey. You know, the proof of concept
Speaker 2: is there. He has shown he gonna he's gonna be
Speaker 2: he's been able to win here at Louisville, and you
Speaker 2: know he did. He got mckil brown junior before he
Speaker 2: even really showed that he could be a successful coach here.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think we all knew he was at
Speaker 2: least on the right track. But he's gonna announce his
Speaker 2: decision on April first at the Barclay Center for the
Speaker 2: McDonald's All American Game, So maybe we'll have more information
Speaker 2: by then, But louisll appears to be in good shape,
Speaker 2: but we'll see. I mean, it would be nice to
Speaker 2: have three top twenty five recruits, the guys you know
Speaker 2: for sure that are gonna be here next year, and
Speaker 2: then you go see what pack and get in the
Speaker 2: portal like that would be awesome, But it's not, and
Speaker 2: it really never was a live and die by it
Speaker 2: unless you're like a Kentucky and that was your model,
Speaker 2: or if you're a Kansas. But I mean, getting older
Speaker 2: dudes in the portal is the best way to season
Speaker 2: by season, put together a roster that can compete. All right,
Speaker 2: quick break, We'll come back and wrap it up on
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Speaker 2: A pretty good slate tonight in college basketball Kentucky. They're
Speaker 2: at nine o'clock tip tonight at Oklahoma, and let me
Speaker 2: double check. I don't think the line has moved much now.
Speaker 2: It's still Kentucky minus two and a half. And for
Speaker 2: what it's worth, kN palm he has he has, let's
Speaker 2: see he has this as a I believe a two yeah,
Speaker 2: two point win for the Cats eighty three to eighty one.
Speaker 2: Kentucky should win. They're just better, and especially if they've
Speaker 2: got a healthy team with Butler and Robinson who may
Speaker 2: both play. However, Porter Mooser, I mean, Oklahoma struggled. But again,
Speaker 2: he's as much as I've made fun of him earlier,
Speaker 2: not really intending to, I just kind of went there
Speaker 2: talking about how he turned his you know, couple of
Speaker 2: tournament runs at Loyola into a big time job at Oklahoma,
Speaker 2: where he's not been successful, and you know, he wasn't successful,
Speaker 2: and really most of the seasons he coached outside of
Speaker 2: those runs to the runs in the tournament. But nonetheless
Speaker 2: he's a really I like what he does. Exus and
Speaker 2: O's wise. I think he's pretty good in the half court,
Speaker 2: and this Kentucky team at times has been really, really,
Speaker 2: really bad defensively. Sster Jean going to be there, Sister Jean. She,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's probably why Porter Mooser left. He's tired
Speaker 2: of being in the back around to her. But he
Speaker 2: Kentucky's defense is the bad defense we've seen at times.
Speaker 2: They could they could take advantage of that, because again,
Speaker 2: I think they've got some good half court stuff. But
Speaker 2: you know, Kentucky again, like anytime you worry about man,
Speaker 2: they're gonna be vulnerable because they're injured or man, their
Speaker 2: defense looks terrible, they'll come back and steal a win
Speaker 2: they're not supposed to get or even play better than
Speaker 2: you would expect against a really good teams. So I
Speaker 2: still don't have a clue what like the realistic expectation
Speaker 2: should be for them as far as the tournament. They're
Speaker 2: gonna get a good seed and they're gonna be deserving
Speaker 2: of that seed. But you know, you really don't know
Speaker 2: what you're gonna get any night with him. All Right,
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