Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Super Mario Bros. Retrospective.
Speaker 2: I was a mammal Travis Snell, and I'm joined by
I am the egg Sucker Kirkland Patzer.
Speaker 3: I am the Pudgy Buns still mus I'm the devolved
to taylor Field.
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rainy days sometimes, you know. So I'm gonna start with
mister Field because he had never watched it, because usually
while go rounds, hey, what's your experience with movie stuff
like that, many spoil had never watched it. I was surprised.
I can't remember when we were talking about me and
him and Dylan on some cast, but we were surprised
that he hadn't watched it. So Taylor, you know, obviously,
I feel like, definitely over the past few years, he
versus jaded. You've you've given some failing scores, not like
it used to be, but still you're definitely the more
positive of the group. How is your first time with
Super Mario Bros?
Speaker 5: And?
Speaker 1: Uh did you have a good time with it?
Speaker 5: Well? I I was. I'm familiar with it, yes, never
watched it, but I'm familiar with the like the goombas
and all that kind of stuff, like seeing the photos
of Koopa and all all of those things. But I
had no idea the context or what the story was
anything at all getting into it. I didn't watch it alone.
I watched with Madison. She poor, She hated it. She
never saw it either, but she hated it. She went
to bed angry. So that was horrible and it was
just stupid.
Speaker 1: And did she get through it all?
Speaker 4: Ye?
Speaker 1: Terrible? Uh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess my My My confusion is I thought
we were focusing on like, oh, you know Peach is
the main princess here? No, no, okay, that's it's not.
But there are other things too, where like oh, like
he confusion the main or the characters the characters and
I guess the representations and just like there's certain focuses
on certain characters.
Speaker 1: Like with Toad.
Speaker 5: It's just that totally went nowhere and just the the
lore that they really tried to tackle on too. And
I felt like Coopa was like a cree be sex addict,
like perverts or something like that, Like he's doing a
tongue thing and all that.
Speaker 1: It's adaptive right from the game. Yeah, that one, that
one they nailed out of the part.
Speaker 5: I will say though. Highlights wise, I really did like
Mario and Luigi. I got a kick out of them,
and they're kind of banter with each other and just
what they were doing. But it definitely felt like a
I had a comparison in my head last night when
I was watching it, but it it was just, Yeah,
it's weird. It had such a maybe like a Mad
Max kind of vibe to it mixed with something else. Yeah,
not at all what I would thought a Nintendo Mario
Brothers adaptation would have been. And I'm just surprised that
someone at Nintendo allowed them to do this. It's very
very bold.
Speaker 3: Different time in Nintendo history, clearly a different times.
Speaker 1: Well. It did the reverse though that after they saw
this movie, they made a rule of no more live
action movie, so it did the reverse where they went,
you know, we shouldn't allowed this. Let's not let this
happen again.
Speaker 4: That makes this a very important movie.
Speaker 1: It does. It honestly does, because even if it was
like this ship, if it would have succeeded, this could
have created a long line like I had I have
my trivia later. But the next movie down the line
that they were developing was a Metroid movie, and this
shut that right down. This what this was like the
death nail on that. But that was the next up
the bat was.
Speaker 4: Which would have actually been a good idea.
Speaker 1: I oh yeah, I think so. It depends whoever it's
this crew again, maybe not so much, but the idea
of like you could get like a really Scott Alien
type with Metroid and sand.
Speaker 3: Like the budget that this movie had, and you get
a sick movie for sure.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so you have said do you like it?
Not like it? Where are you?
Speaker 5: I'm not going to re watch it ever again in
my life. I'm believed at that. And if I have
to watch it again, I'll be watching alone, probably because
I don't think anyone else like wait, my wife won't
watch it with me, so I don't.
Speaker 4: Recommend watching this alone. Taylor and I went through that.
Speaker 1: Why you said I'll never like if I have to
watch this again, it'll be alone.
Speaker 5: What instance is is that gonna be in Well, Madison's
not gonna watch it with me.
Speaker 1: No, But like, why would it be different? Like you're
a group of fans and they're like, let's put on
the Mario Bros. Movies. Somebody You're like, you're alone. That's
the only time you watch it. So who's making you
watch it alone?
Speaker 5: Well, none of my group of friends. I don't think
you guys like, oh, we're hanging out, let's put on
the Mario movie. The instance where I'm alone is like
it'll be podcast related and we're in our own places
here and someone's gonna be like, geek verse, here's ten
million dollars, let's watch Mark.
Speaker 4: What if someone? What if?
Speaker 1: There?
Speaker 3: Just became this meme that started to where people subscribe
to our Patreon just to make us watch this movie
over and over again, kind of like that Paul Blart podcast. Yeah,
people just get in there and they say, what you know,
I need you to do a retro for this movie
again and again and again. I would do it. I
would happily welcome.
Speaker 5: I would do it. We'll do it. You can play god,
So do it.
Speaker 1: You first pay That's gonna be one of our new things,
play God. I was just seeing if they're going, yeah,
you can check out Till Deaf Duos Blart twenty twenty two.
So they have reviewed this movie since twenty fifteen, so
same thing that so they've reviewed. They only drop one podcast,
one episode a year, and they just it's for November
for Paul Blart. They only it's a big thing. Yeah,
so they've reviewed it seven times. So there you go.
If you want to check that out, big shout out
to that podcast, and he wants to do it, then yeah,
you definitely got a pay it for that. I'll be
as blunt as a possible. But uh, Kirk Patzer the
egg Sucker, you watched this alone and uh yeah yeah,
so had you seen this before?
Speaker 4: Not at all? I?
Speaker 5: Oh you too.
Speaker 4: I feel like I had heard like an eerie like
folk tale story about this movie, and I just did
it for before, like yeah, it's like that's not real,
like there's no way, and then maybe it's seemed like
an image, but just thought it was like a fan thing,
and and then of course we were someone brought it up.
But just lead up to the Super Bowl, the Super
Mario Bros. Thing, and it's like, Okay, I know, I'll
do my due diligence for the podcast and watch it
for sure. I'm actually pretty similar to Madison in this
sense where I went a bit angry watching this movie.
Speaker 5: I started it yesterday.
Speaker 4: I fell asleep watching it, and I woke up and
I was like, oh my gosh, okay, I fell asleep.
I'm gonna have to finish this movie tomorrow. I like
go to pause it and it was literally less than
halfway through the movie, and I was like, oh my god,
I am so mad that I have to watch like
a huge chunk of this movie because I fell asleep already.
So it's basically like the whole movie, like I don't
have to rewind and go it again. And it just
spread over two days. I thought I could just bang
it out in one session. But this is a long movie.
It's like an hour forty five. I think.
Speaker 5: I know that's not like.
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly, but it felt like a three hour venture
and I don't know, like I think going into it too,
I was just expecting like an hour, ten hour fifteen,
like pretty clean.
Speaker 1: Like John Wick is a full hour longer than this,
you know, yeah, but it.
Speaker 4: Just zooms by and this one, you know, like yeah,
like I had to spread it over two days, but
it just it felt so long. And I really did
not enjoy this movie like at all. Like I wanted
to turn it off multiple times. I'm like, I can't
believe this is gonna be the one that I just
like one podcast movie. I just I'm gonna have to
like tell guys I cannot make it for some reason,
like I just cannot do it. Were it was rough
and like I I feel like I'm not super like
hyperbolic on like a review like that, but yeah, this
was this was extremely bad to get through, you know,
like briefly mentioned like the budget too. I was just
like amazed on like how like, yeah, I'll say it,
like how good some of like the actual like like
like whether they were like remaking like a police car
or something, like they had so much like attention to
detail on things like maybe the maybe the direction was awful,
but like the actual execution of it, Like I was
just like amazed by some of these like U guts
are going through huge. Yeah I didn't look it up,
but I was just absolutely baffled just with how yeah,
how expanse and big, like they really went in this movie.
It's like forty five million or something for the budget.
Speaker 2: In the in the nineties. Yeah, it's like it's like,
did no one read the script for this? They just
greenlit the forty five million. But yeah, I I did
not like pretty much any of the characters, Like like
the mains aren't They're not the worst part of the movie,
but like it's not really comparing it by much there.
I I just couldn't grasp, like grasp one of the
story like it was, Yeah, it was. They did not
do like like the original Super Mario's magic like justice
at all.
Speaker 4: In my opinion is just like like I'm I'm I'm
upset that this is actually a thing because I just
feel like it like brings down the Super Mario name,
uh to an extent. But you know, to my earlier point,
maybe it is an important sequence of events that that
this release and they're like, hey, no, we're not gonna
let this happen again. And then you know, here we
are freaking twenty thirty years later and we're getting the
good Super Mario start you next week. So Redemption for sure,
but yeah, this one was a rough one to get through.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to put it in perspective, there's four years apart
from them, but still it's like still eighty nineties. The
first Batman film, Michael Key in nineteen eighty nine, had
a budget of forty eight million, and then this had
the same type of budget, and you got to think,
like that's Batman saying they did big, big sets everything.
Batman goes on to make four hundred and eleven million,
This goes on to make thirty eight million, and just
like expect like that and you imagine too, the marketing
to that budget must have been mass well, because like,
well we've got a Mario movie, right, and just it
sounds like words spread very fast throughout There was no Internet,
but word of mouth spread very fast of a boy,
this Mario movie and stuff like that. But yeah, it
had the same budget as the very first Batman movie,
which was considered a big, big block bus same as this, right,
because it's we're making a Mario, bros. It's the biggest
video game of all time. We got to give it
a big budget. And you know, so, Dylan, you said
you also had a moment like Kirkland where you weren't
sure if you're gonna make it through the past Mount
Doom and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Hmm, yeah, there's a reason for that, but very quickly,
like I, I definitely have seen parts of this, but
I've never sat down and watched it from start to finish.
I think it was one of those things that would
pop up on TV back when I was, you know,
in the flipping channels kind of day, and I would
I would watch it here or there. But obviously my
when I was watching as a kid, I was not
This is not the Mario that I knew and loved
and all that. But yeah, I mean, I pretty much
entirely agree with everything Taylor and Kirkland said this. This
movie sucks. And it's not a so bad it's good.
It's just it's just bad and it's man, it just
so like the idea, the choices of It's hard to
call us an adaptation, right because it's almost just like
using the names of these things and creating like a
new fictional, weird Mario cyberpunk story. So obviously there there's
what could be some interesting things to at least like, Okay,
this is so weird that I'm down to see this adventure.
But I think this movie pulls what is like one
of the most offensive things that a movie can do,
other than just straight up being like racist or something.
But this movie is just incredibly boring, right, And that's
that's the worst.
Speaker 4: Thing of all, is that I didn't laugh.
Speaker 3: I didn't smile, I didn't cry. I wasn't even mad
like you guys. I was just like, okay, our forty.
Speaker 5: Did you watch it with your girlfriend?
Speaker 4: Oh? Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: I knew.
Speaker 3: I knew she would hate this thing. I did not
put her through the torture that you did. I was like,
I'm watching this on my own. It's funny though, because
I was watching it here in this office, and when
the movie was done, when the credits are rolling, she
was out in the living room and she was like, man,
that's a bob what are you listening to out there?
Speaker 4: Telling?
Speaker 3: So she was like really into the credits music. But yeah,
I don't think she would have enjoyed any of the
rest of it.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, yeah, you like the credits, wait till you
see the movie. There's original too. I'm like, all right,
I'm rest It felt like a fro too event, Like
it's done.
Speaker 1: You got that original song by rocks Net whatever it
is I'm Awake or You're Awake or What's Next whatever.
That was titled playing with the Chris so shout. I
don't know what rocks Net is, but shout out to them.
Yeah and Tay Bowl. But your wife is seven months pregnant.
You're putting her through this, you know, like the labor
is gonna be nothing.
Speaker 5: To this bedroom. I was like, I need the TV
I watched in the living room.
Speaker 1: You wake up early and watch this without her so
you don't put her through this.
Speaker 5: I'm not waking up early to watch this movie.
Speaker 1: If you guys ever gonna divorced, she's gonna list. This
is reason number one. I'm telling you that if the
lawyer is gonna give you a list, and reason nuber
one made her watch Super Mario Bros. March twenty eighth.
But yeah, I'm not gonna say this in these guys
did it. It's awful. There's there's not a redeeming thing
about it. It's like Dylane said, it's not so bad
it's good. It's just bad. Because I've still watched this
for friends, and I think I've seen this is probably
my i'd say fourth time but I feel like the
other time better, Yeah exactly, Yeah, No, I feel like
there's a couple times as a kid, and I definitely
at one point with friends I put this on. But
I think even when we did that at that time,
it just was just like the whole time, it was
like can you believe this shit? Like every time they're
like like what are they doing here? And I think
that's the biggest thing where talking about it, where you know,
we did a retro Mee Kirklan tear for a catwoman,
you know, and what's the basis of that. It's an
awful movie that's still a anti hero who puts on
a cat caution they got that. Kirkler may disagree with this,
but we did Dragon ball Z and it's an awful,
awful movie, right, but he's still not like the basic
of they're try and hit on things of the world,
the characters, but the characters look the way they do
like they're trying, right, it's just okay, it's a Dragon
ball Z movie that's really really bad. Where this is
just I think this is the biggest bungling of an
IP two movie ever. And I know it's not a
hyperbolic thing to say, like that's been the thing echoed
price since the nineties, but I think it truly is
Like I was going through my list of like what
other books, video games, comic books, TV shows that have
been adapted that have been adapted this bad, and I
think this just takes the cake and it's just weird.
And I have in the tributa to where that was
the big thing with the studio and the directors were
fighting because the studio wanted to be a family movie
and the directors wanted to be a serious adult movie.
And you can clearly see that in this where it's
just like my name is like it's supposed to be
a kids movie, but literally there's a showing that says
I was a mammal xx excellent theater, Like there's a
pornal theater in Mushroom Kingdom, like like what are we
doing here? And that's where it's just the fact, like again,
it is definitely Nintendo to make the right move to
see this, and I'm like, man, if this is what's
gonna happen to our ip, we can't let this happen.
And obviously, who knows how great the movie is next week?
Maybe it's just a Fly movie. But even it looks okay,
this has the pure essence of what Mario should be,
the writing that all be subjective and everything like that.
But this it's just it just yeah, they got the name,
they got the characters' names, and just threw it on
this weird like leather lace gross world where Mushroom Kingdom
is Brooklyn, just with fungus. It's just it's just the
biggest misstep. And I get it too because it is
the nineties, right and you would go, hey, this is
the best they could do, and yeah, they have these
That's the other thing when Kirk tum about these sets.
I just feel bad that people like the money and
all people that worked on this, like this is some
huge sets and the costume designs and the clubs and
everything like that just for this, you know, like this
is what it was all used for, was this product
and stuff like that, and it just shows of like
this is I think is the one on one of
a studio just getting their hands in IP and just
we gotta make a movie of this whatever. We don't
care what it is, how it's gonna be done. There
just has to be a moral movie. So we can
make a bunch of money, and luckily it didn't. But
just watch and I'll never unless this Patreon thing happens
at tay joke about I will never. This is me
closing the book, retiring this because I knew we'd talk
about in the cast one day, just because I think
it's like a you kind of have to. It's a
write a passage, like, hey, we're putting this to bed,
so we go talk about the new great one. But
this is if there was an if there was an
eighth sin, this movie would be it. You know, it
would just be super Mario bros. So yeah, it's it's
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start with let's start with where you wanna go? I
hear you don't I hear your gullet opening.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean you can go where you I was
the first.
Speaker 1: Time Luigi, you know, just just them, but.
Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, let's go for it.
Speaker 3: I mean I was surprised to I was like, man,
why does Luigi look so familiar? And then it's like, oh, yeah,
I've seen this guy in things recently in john Wick
in the menu it's his name John uh, like like Guizombo. Yeah,
And to Taylor's point, like, I actually, I do think
the actors for those two and honestly for most of
the people in here, is fine.
Speaker 4: I think the one.
Speaker 3: Egregious actor for me is the is the Kooper King
himself is just like some of those performances. I understand
that's a hard role to play well by anyone, but
that was that was not good. But I actually I
think Martin Luigi, like, yeah, acting is totally cool.
Speaker 4: They have like their little banter.
Speaker 3: They're charismatic enough, like not bad acting by any means,
but there's just nothing in the story that feels like
I haven't seen it before, like just a very generic
movie in that way. So I guess there's no really
opportunity for them to rise up. But I think they're
they're fine.
Speaker 1: It's almost like in a world where this could have
been done better, they they probably could have gotten us
there to those characters, like good enough in a live
action sense, you know, like if you're making a movie
for this time, like the time where people they do
those fan casts, like what if The Avengers was made
in the eighties, It's like, this feels like, Okay, he
got the right pieces here, but it was just yeah, obviously,
and they knew that this was production hell and stuff
like that. I'll sprinkle some trivia throughout. John O Lincguzomo.
He revealed in his two thousand and seven biography book
that he and Bob Hoskins were drunk most of this
movie because they knew it was bad and they hate
They like a few weeks and hated this, so they
realized that they just had to make the best of it.
So they were just constantly drinking on this movie the
whole time because they just are trying to get through it,
same thing I have in my tree. But the guy
who played like Dansshopper played King Koopa. He was originally
supposed to be there for three weeks, it went over.
He ended up being there for seventeen weeks, so you
can tell that he and then one time he got
into a three hour screaming match with the directors and
the like held up the whole set. So maybe that's
why his acting was on park because he's just like
I was supposed to be here for twenty one days.
Speaker 3: You should have been able to fuel that anger and
a compelling villain.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think I think they're charming enough. It's
just everything they're like doing and saying is is not great.
But there that was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a rough thing for me. Is that
like I could see the image of them, like, Okay,
they're a human, well human live action version of like
Mario and Luigi, but just when they would speak, like
the things that they're saying, it's like none of this
has anything to do or is bringing me that magic
of like actual Mario so and like so many moments
of like Luigi's like I got a feeling about this
and he's just like that is just like his whole
I don't know, inspiration for the for the tasks that
he was kind of performing. It's just like what are
we doing here? Like this is just so ridiculous. And
that was really what was preventing me from, I feel like,
getting attached to our our main characters, like I could
see them, but as soon as I heard like what
was going on or like just yeah, like their reactions
to certain events, it just it took me out of it.
Is like I can't like I don't even want to
know what's gonna happen next here, but I have to
then just constantly checking the time, like, oh my god,
it's so so much.
Speaker 5: This movie left rough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they do the whole Brotherson era where Luigi's
very I don't know, he's energetic, he's optimistic and not
that Mario was not that, but he's more realistic. They
make him a lady's man in this. He knows how
to talk, he knows how to talk to the ladies
and stuff like that, and he's always kind of having
to hold Luigi's hand, but luis bigger, Yeah, he's bigger.
Bread the Luigi still gets some out of trouble multiple
times where sometimes I actually feel like Luigi's the main character
of this movie, like he definitely is, and I feel
like Hoskins kind of takes a backseat for a bit.
Not that he gave a shit because he said this
was the worst decision of his career life. So again,
they just have more trivia. But that's the most attract What.
Speaker 4: Is Bob Hoskins known for.
Speaker 1: His biggest thing would be Roger Rabbit, if you've ever
seen that. It's a live action cartoon thing. That would
be like his biggest I'd say like Family one Night.
He's done a bunch of dramas. He was also Shmi
and Hook if you ever saw Hook.
Speaker 4: At some point the Steam's feel from Star Wars the
Great No, No.
Speaker 1: Not that, not the the wife of Quai gon jind No,
just just me the guy who's like Captain Hooks, like
like right hand man and stuff like that, or haven't
any of these things. But he's a yeah, he's a guy.
He had a very good career, like he was like
this was he did this to I don't know, just
it sounds like a lot of them did it because
they're kids and he you know, his son knew the
movie and stuff like that. Dennis Hopper, who played King Cooper,
said that King Cooper. King Cooper said he pretty much
just said it was like a job that he took on.
He said he wanted to do it so his son
could get some shoes, and then his son said two
years later, like I didn't need choes that badly once
he saw the movie and stuff like that. So I
think he was like over I think he was like
over it. I think he was the shoes. I think
they embellishing the story. But I think he just meant,
like to get his son a pain, like just to
support a paper. Yeah, yeah, they gave him.
Speaker 4: A rocket power by the bullet bill.
Speaker 1: Or what, but yours don't work for your son. But yeah,
he he was in quite a bit. Now he's passed on,
but he's a I think he's passed on. Actually actually
before I misspeaking of by Buskins. But yeah, he did
quite a bit. Uh, Taylor, you didn't say.
Speaker 3: I was say, like, Taylor, you don't want to say anything,
I'll move on.
Speaker 5: I guess no, I was.
Speaker 1: I did pass on in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was curious because when we were talking about
just like how they didn't really have a lot of
capture that soul Mario kind of brought in here. And
I think you mentioned that Kirkland just how there really
isn't any any proper sustenance. I was curious. I wanted
to look up the date. Obviously May twenty eight, nineteen
ninety three is when the movie came out, and I
was looking at the games, the Mario games that came
out before that time, and when you look at that,
like there's definitely a fair amount of Mario games going
back all the way to the eighties. But I guess
like in theory, like there's not really a lot of
source material for this kind of the narrative or the
story you're trying to tell here, So I can see
why they really just said, fuck it, we're just going
walls deep here with our.
Speaker 1: Own still really isn't anyways right? Like it's that there.
It is pretty simple of Mario Luigi, your plumbers to
get sucked this magical world and they go on a
venture to save these ladies. You know, like that's and
I guess technically that that if you that is the
logline for this movie. They did that, right. They're plumbers
and they got sucked into a magical world. I wouldn't
say that, I'd say a nightmarish world.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, fucking sucked into and they have to save
this princess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it feels like the world. It feels
like when people pitch Radedar stuff and like, yeah, I'd
want to radar Star Wars and they start pitching off
all these things, You're like, okay, naw's on Star Wars anymore.
And that's what this like. That world, even though it's
not Radar. The Mushroom Kingdom Brooklyn, it feels like somebody
just read that log line and then when go and like,
let's make it gritty and dirty, and it's just it's
weird because again, say that same thing. I don't understand
why the studio in a family movie and the directors
didn't why they went with these directors. That feels like it's,
you know, they should have pulled a Kathleen Kennedy was
fucking ripped these people out and did something. But yeah,
it's a gross, gross world. I'd never want to be
in it.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: One thing too, kind of on your point there, Taylor,
I was really surprised to see Daisy in this because
obviously I'm like, well, this looks nothing like the Daisy
that we know in love and the fact that Peach
isn't in it at all is strange, especially because Mario
has a love interest and it's like, why don't you
just make that Peach?
Speaker 5: I I yeah.
Speaker 4: About her, Yeah, I guess they're saving it for the sequel.
Speaker 3: But the choice of Daisy, because I'm like Man ninety three, like,
I feel like Daisy didn't really become much of a
character until like the sports games and stuff, which only
started in like the sixty four Arrow in the end
of the nineties, so that was kind of weird. I'm like,
what was she even in before this? And to my
quick research of this, it seems like she was only
in one game to this point, Super Mario Land, which
is like a low key Mario game that most people
have not played, even including myself. So I yeah, very
very puzzling choice, obviously, like for what the story they
were trying to tell, and making this more love interest
thing like Luigi and not Highlight there it made more
it made sense to put Daisy in that role instead
of Peach, But even then that seemed like a weird
choice to even have that character named Daisy. To me,
it just seemed weird because of the timing of it,
and by the end of the movie, it's like, why
is this Why is this Daisy?
Speaker 4: It doesn't really make sense.
Speaker 5: Well, they put her in like a pink dress at
one point when she's captive under and she's and she's blonde. Yeah,
she had all the all the signs saying Peach.
Speaker 1: It's so they could put that character on the posters people,
Oh it's Peach, but really, like, well, Luigi's more the
main character. So we're gonna have Daisy in this, and
I guarantee you they were gonna bring Peach maybe in
a sequel or something, because they end this in like
a back to the future like Mayo, Bros, you're not
gonna believe it. I'm gonna need your help. And I
just hate the ending of like the met super mile bro. Yeah,
that's yeah, they're gonna cross over right away. They're gonna
get to the Avengers first. But yeah, it is odd,
especially if you're trying to again in a studio rut,
if you're trying to go for all these things, but
even just the idea think of calling like King Coopa,
King Coopa, like just call him Bowser, you know, like
at that, like it's a it's a weird choice that
they make, almost like well, he's not Bowser because he's
not this dragon, but it's like you don't care about
the rest of the lower so just call him Bowser
to cash in on the name, and they turn him
into Bowser, which is like yeah, actually, like doesn't look
the worst for ninety three Like to me, yeah, it's
like this is not bad for the small amountains in
but those are the weird choices. Were Daisy okay, King
Coopa okay, Like why why does this feel so specific?
But then this isn't I.
Speaker 4: Don't have those answers, and Bowser even known as like
the Cooper King he is.
Speaker 1: He's the same character. They're trying to make it seem
like they're two different characters.
Speaker 4: But then yeah, hair Bowser too.
Speaker 1: That's why dance hop I must have hate this every
day those seventeen weeks. He had to get his hair
fucking styled like this, He's sitting in a chair, he's
looking in a mirror just seeing them strip. It's like
it must have been.
Speaker 4: The worst damage. Yeah, Like after he's marked for full
Draco malf I was kind of happy that they didn't
use the name Bowser just to Sully my man's name,
but yeah, it still was an interesting choice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're Boykirk. It feels like it's like a
fan film that they somehow found a loophole to do,
like they like, you know what this feels like, Taylor,
and not as bad because they put some like more
love into it. But this feels like pooh, blood honey.
This feels like if Mario had the public domain and
be like, let's just make a Mario movie, but darker
and guns. Like even the fact that Daz walked in
with a fucking gun at the end, it's like, why
does she have this? So that's what this movie feels like.
It feels like somebody cheaply got the right it's just
making it. But it's not the attend to all greed.
Tudent was all signed away and good to go, you know,
so it's good to go.
Speaker 3: Huh, Taylor, what did you think of this version of Yoshi?
Because it's hard to be like, oh, that was a
terrible idea because it's like, well, it's just a regular dinosaur,
which Yoshi is just a dinosaur. But obviously This is
just like a very generic what dinosaurs probably actually looked
like versus I feel style of Yoshi.
Speaker 1: You know, we at this time.
Speaker 5: This is the same year that we had Jurassic Park
coming out, So I feel like the directors two months earlier. Yeah,
I think that they're like, Okay, you know what, we
got wind of a big dinosaur movie at Spielberg's working on.
You know what, we gotta sneak onto that set. They
sent in their their hooligans, their goons. They snuck a
model off the set and this was maybe like a
baby t Rex or something.
Speaker 1: They get a defective model maybe probably.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they sent the two uh, the two Koopa cousins
into this job, and you know the god I forgot.
Speaker 4: About those guys, Oh my god.
Speaker 5: Yeah. But that being said, like I look, it's very
it's very, very weird seeing this dinosaur setting up there,
especially because I guess he's related to the Koopas and
they're like everyone down there, like when they're not supposed
to be because they're they're fire breathing turtles, right, they're koupas,
they're not dinosaurs. But that's besides the point.
Speaker 1: They rewritten somewhere in the chain they connect.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they've rewritten all of it. So but I mean
it was cool to see like this friendly looking little
t rex. But and I mean, ah, thees I have, Yeah,
there's not much positives like vibes I have on this,
but I mean against you know, dinosaurs, he's scary.
Speaker 1: He's just fucking scary. The Yoshian I get. That's the
whole point in this world because it's dark one, not
like Yoshi. I feel like it's always a kid favored
of like the level pet that Mario's with and Rytes
baby mar like say like you have all this low
I always think of. People think like, my kids don't
have any Mario plushy, Like the only pleasure they have
is Yoshi's plushy. We got a pink and a green
one because like, Yoshi's that character and you see this
yosh she and when I was watching my kids, I'm like,
that's Yoshi. They didn't say anything. The only review I
got from this movie is that when said this movie
with poopy because I said this because I said I
have to watch some sore and stuff like that. I described, yeah,
and then I asked if she liked you. She asked, like,
did you like him like, no, I don't think it's
a good movie, and she's like, yeah, it's a poopy movie.
Speaker 5: I'm like, you did the thing I did with Madison. Sorry,
I gotta watch this.
Speaker 1: In the they had a choice to go elsewhere though,
but they were still because it was confusing for them
because the tomorrow movie is coming out and I had
to be like, no, this is something, this is my
first time, be like this is a movie that people
don't really like and it's not you know, we're gonna
see one next week that's gonna be better. But they're
still like a princess, so that gets them. But yeah,
Yoshi was just scared and think of not like Tim,
This is like a Tim Burton made fucking Mario, you know,
creepy Yoshi.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and like when he grabbed oh my god, what's
her name, Harry's aunt? Uh No, it was like yeah
from yeah Petunia, when yeah, she like grabbed her. I
never once like thought of that idea of like a
Yoshi just well yeah for that reason. Yoshi's like so
lovable and friendly, but like this Yoshi was just gonna
like eat this individual. And I'm like, holy fun, this
is terrified, especially just like the actual like scene of
like the tongue come out. Just yeah, yeah, it was
creepy like Yoshi's tongue. I never think of it being
this like really weird gross thing because it's just like
very cartoony. The little sound it makes too is like
very fun and happy. But this was the complete opposite.
I did not love this, this version of Yoshi. Like
even when Daisy like like pulled that knife out of
its neck and like like took off the collar, part
of me is like, I think Yoshi's just gonna eat
her right here, like like this thing is just an
animal like it like it's it doesn't seem like a
friendly creature.
Speaker 3: We haven't seen Yoshi in any trailer for the new movie,
have we?
Speaker 1: So they in the trailer in the snippet you can
see it seems to be Yoshi's island with other Yoshi's
Like what is that? This is like a Yoda thing?
Are they called.
Speaker 5: Dinosaurs ever?
Speaker 4: Right? Like the Yoshi's I was just I always thought
that was like the race though it was just like
Yoshi's like that that's the species I guess of the creeture, like.
Speaker 1: Mario, is it Yoshi Yoshi's like Mario Mario.
Speaker 4: And.
Speaker 5: Yoshi's got a shell on the on the back to
right or is that a saddle?
Speaker 4: I think it's a saddle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a saddle. Yeah. I think it'supposed to be
like a raptor type.
Speaker 4: Okay, well yeah, this might be like a Mandela thing
where I just I always thought it was something else
than what it is.
Speaker 1: I think I didn't need to answer this question. Yeah,
I think the green one is called Yoshi's, but I
think because everyone just affiliates that they're all Yoshi's, but
technically they should be dinosaurs with all separate names. What
are you bringing up here?
Speaker 4: Solosaurus or something like that?
Speaker 1: Is there the picture of him? Like you sure that's
a saddle? That doesn't look like that looks like a
I guess times but it used to.
Speaker 5: It's used as that's the answer. Yoshi party is fantastic, so.
Speaker 1: The other expert. But yeah, so I think I think
Yoshi in this movie is either gonna be safe for
the end or he's gonna be an end credits. I
mean not this way for the current Yeah, yeah, there's
an end credit you watch. No, I think the current
day so that they've shown that they exist in the world.
But I think that's gonna be their sequel. Tass Mario
gets a dinosaur friend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that kind of makes sense because Yoshi didn't come
around for a few games anyway, so that's makes a
nice thing. And I mean a lot of characters in
that movie didn't come around.
Speaker 1: And they're doing like smash Bro stages to do Mario card,
you gotta say something, right, they can't just blow their
wad completely. I think it's gonna be a billion dollar franchise.
So Yoshi, oh man. I hope we get Yo. I
hope we get like a mini origin story. But the
how does that work? Quickly off tangent, what is the
canon of Yoshi with Baby Mario? Because the story was
Plumber gets act in Pipe saves Kingdom. How does Baby
Mario with Yoshi get worked in the canon? Was he
there all the time? Is it like it chose one
thing where he got sent back to our world? He's
supposed to be Mushroom.
Speaker 4: It's maybe like a prequel situation.
Speaker 1: No, I know that, but I mean, like that means
Baby Mario was in Mushroom Kingdom for a time, right, Well,
he was just a man Yoshi's island Okay, So he
was in Yoshi, so he was in he was not
from Mushroom Kingdoms, so he was not in Brooklyn. I'm
saying right, at one point he was a baby and
he was in Yoshi's island. He went back to Brooklyn
and then he went down the pipe to Mushroom Kingdom.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't think Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: Sorry, are you asking about this movie or you just
in the game Mario entirely because I don't think the
Brooklyn thing actually is ever Cannon Donk City, but he's
not actually from New York, I don't think.
Speaker 1: But he's from our Earth, right, he's from our North.
Speaker 4: I don't think that's ever confirmed. We ever once thought
about asking that question.
Speaker 1: Because he's definite. Well we're answer them today, and what
game happened? Italy is Earth, so there you go.
Speaker 5: But in a game.
Speaker 3: But in a game, Taylor, does it ever say he's Italian?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's I feel like that's not actually a plot point, Like, yes,
he is kind of Italian, but I don't think it's
like in the game.
Speaker 4: There's no Italy in the he's.
Speaker 1: From in this movie though, that's the story that one.
Speaker 3: Yes, but in the in the games, I don't. I
don't think so.
Speaker 1: And so then what was he Where was he plumbing
in Mushroom Kingdom?
Speaker 3: Once again, I don't think he's ever explicitly a plumber.
Speaker 1: Taylor, He's definitely a plumber. He's dealing with all these
pipes and.
Speaker 5: Something like the pipes and everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can you can you? Can you search.
Speaker 5: Using the pipes?
Speaker 1: Can you search? Is Mario from Earth? Just just search that?
Just see what comes up. It's more interesting.
Speaker 5: Mario fandom wiki here perfect. Mario Luigi lived on Earth
sometimes as the real World and ran a Brooklyn plumbing business.
Mario brother's plumbing arrived in the Mushroom king via war
pipe that from though, like.
Speaker 4: The movies wiki that he's on and know there was
any game I've played.
Speaker 1: There was a nineties animated show where they were from
the real world as well, so that has been established
like in the past, I don't know what game. I
feel like I've heard that term real world though before,
not the reality, but in the game. I feel like
with Mario RPG, I feel like I've seen the term
real world.
Speaker 3: But then that would actually make sense because that game
actually has a story, so maybe they would have something
like that.
Speaker 1: But again, is this like a Harry Potter situation where
he goes to Hogwarts but he's like, actually the Chosen
Ones attack by Baltimore because what are you doing here?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: No, there you go. So but because this is the
thing in the Baby Yoshi, he was in Yoshi's island
and they send them back to Earth and then he
came down, so he was always supposed to come back
that It's.
Speaker 5: Not explicitly stayed in the Games whether Mario is from
Earth or not, but given the fantasy sitting the Rushronan kingdom,
it seems that he is not from our planet. However,
it's important to remember that Mario is a fictional character.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, don't tell us that you're the podcast chat
or whatever. They're trying to end all our content. Remember,
we're gonna have to revisit this. We're gonna have to
talk about this again. I'm gonna put I'm gonna put
the question out for a next newscast tomorrow on Patriots.
Speaker 4: It could be answered in the next week's movie.
Speaker 1: We never We don't know, well, the answered that already.
Speaker 3: That's I'm just kind of based on uh, like especially
like thinking about the first games, you know, because I
know in Super Marlboros three, the setup of that game
is that the whole thing is like a stage play,
and like the whole game is just like a show.
Speaker 4: That they're putting on.
Speaker 3: So I feel like in that, I mean, it's never
also stated that, like this is a play that's happening
in New York or something like that. That's kind of
the setup of it makes it seem like it is
this thing that's not actually occurring.
Speaker 1: It's just it's like a taiker throw Rightnerrock Love and
Thunder when they have the characters redoing them sirs, yeah
kind of yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, I don't And
even then, how do they have so many pipes down there? Baby?
Look some more answers. So yeah, what are you guys
thinking about? King Koopa? Dyln't already talk about? You know
Whatt'll take an app rank and we'll get We'll get
the King Coopa. Let's take a second half ranking. We'll
talk about the villains of this were right back and
right back before we go to King Kopac suit I forgot.
I just want to mention because I'll forget that the
woman that plays Aunt Petunia and Harry Potter whatnot. Unfortunately,
they make her do a lot in this, like just
silly stuff. When she gets electrocuted, man, just some of
the funny shit. She falls off the catwalk and they
just cut her and she's just on this fence. They
spiked her hair out, and she's just like, she's like, oh,
like she's looking like but like because it's not she's
looking like Marv in Home Alone too, but because it's
not funny. It's just sad to watch her have to
do this. And I was like, oh man, this this
sucks so much for her. But yeah, she's were they
trying to make her to be like the Wizard or whatever? Like,
wasn't she portraying some sort of other villain I didn't
look into.
Speaker 4: But I thought she was gonna be Peach for a
moment before they act said yeah, I don't know Peach
for whatever. Everything else I've seen this movie, Peach hadn't
popped up yet. I'm like, oh no, this is gonna
be the version of Peach. They're gonna do an evil swing.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm I just I'm trying to get on the
IMDb and I have to share this that I went
on IMDb or like on the Google search, and here's
like the top cast. Okay, that you know, you got
John As Luigi, got Bajas's Mario Shagium and motives put there.
I don't know if he has a cameo or something
like that. And then it has you know, Dennis Hopper's
Bowser Daisy, and then the sixth one is just someone
who is playing a prostitute. That's like literally when you
google this thing, the fact that that pops up is wild.
Speaker 6: The same prostitute in the name just yet that's like roll,
like why at any point to Nintendo's like get a
script that featured prostitute Meg, Yeah, this is good, you know,
it's like they just like yeah, it's like they just like,
we don't know how to make movies, so let's just
we'll give it to them, like just do it. And
then they saw it, but yeah, there should not be
a prostitute in anymore movie.
Speaker 3: Her character's name is Lena, so I don't think it's
based on I don't I've never heard that before in
all my Mario lore so I'm.
Speaker 1: Assuming something character.
Speaker 3: So it's like, why is that a new character? But
then Daisy is like it's weird.
Speaker 4: It's weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I sill there trying to do something of the year,
that puffy hair she had, like the rogue white streak
through it. She's obsessed with magic, so I was like,
are they trying to paint this out? She's gonna be
like the Wizard type of character. And she's like, because
I don't know if the wizard's a male or female, Like,
I don't think that's stated. Again, another thing stayed in
the game, so like could have been So yeah, she
was just love shruck with Chris Chris Cooper. Fuck, I
keep doing that, King Cooper, and of course turns against
them to prove her worth or something. I don't know,
and Happer's trying. I guess I don't like. I don't
think it's a good performance. I don't have much to
say about it. I don't think there's much he could
have done with this what's all the map?
Speaker 3: But I guess, yeah, like talking to you a little
bit about what Cooper, what his plan is in this movie, right,
is to get this crystal that Daisy has yea to
connect this world with the dinosaur world. Right is that
is that essentially what's going on?
Speaker 5: And then the dinosaur world because when the meteor hit,
it broke the two universes apart, so they are trapped
in their dinosaur one, which is all destroyed. He wanted
to merge that Earth human one back with his right.
Speaker 1: And then he wants to turn the US on Earth
a Brooklyn into mammals. Remember he wants to turn the monkeys. Yeah, yeah,
because it's our fault that the major hit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's pretty wild, wild idea there.
Speaker 1: I like the plot of this animated movie too.
Speaker 5: I liked when uh Pete Peach Daisy brought Luigi down
into like the dig site and was like, yeah, look
at these bones of what this newly discovered dinosaurs we found.
Like I think she says like they weren't animals, they
were just monsters or something like that. And they had
a posable thumbs. Like we're just getting like really down
like dinosaurs of the posable thumbs and everything.
Speaker 4: So and the pipes explode and yeah.
Speaker 5: This is what the scale Scally brothers just like just
like Spray the Wet bandits more like holy fuck, Like actually,
so they're supposed to be just like a contractor, Like
that's literally like what these guys are and they just
show up in their.
Speaker 4: Like Italian mafia like just rip off outfits and like
crew and they're just like big Italian dudes and just
like I'm I'm whatever scalllly is and like just like yeah,
they're Their whole ambiance was just like that big intimidating
mafia like Italian mafia guy. And I was just like,
are you kidding right now, like like what are they
even constructing? Like it just seems like like from what
they're pitching, it is just like a general contractor working
on this thing. And then we just have this like
super like crime boss just show up Kingpin basically for
people that don't know it intimidating, Okay, they're like the.
Speaker 1: Rivals to Luigi Mario, like they like they keep beating
them for the jobs and stuff like that they establish.
And that's why they yeah, because because they're they're trying
to get there and they're like, oh, the scary brothers
are here already, like they're really mad about that. So
and that's how they like they have time to help Daisy,
which is just so funny. Like when the waters burst
in the pipe, Mario takes a ranch like turns it
a bunch and like, oh it's clogged, and just like
I told you, this guy knows everything.
Speaker 5: Even better than that.
Speaker 4: Like they're both plumbers, they're both are like certified plumbers
my mind, and like just water's going everywhere, and Luigi's like,
I know exactly what to do, and what does he do?
Speaker 5: He goes and grabs Mario.
Speaker 1: Does it. He says he's not certified training, he's apprentice.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, fair enough because.
Speaker 4: Essentially, yes, I know, yeah, it all makes sense, but
he's just like handing him tools and I just found
it so but he's like, I know exactly what to do,
and it just seems like they fast travel too, like
where Mario is and he just like gets his tools
and then guns back. I don't know, I'm getting a
little bit picky without having too little?
Speaker 1: Do you do you have a crew as well? You're
your job Kirkling, It just comes and steal your guys's jobs,
even though you're under contract.
Speaker 4: Those bastards Disco the big Italian mob boss.
Speaker 5: No, not on our.
Speaker 1: Site, damn yeah, can coopa anything any thoughts.
Speaker 4: It's tough because like I don't even have much to
like say other than just I really didn't like everything
that was going on. He was not a like like
no redeeming qualities anything his inspiration like I could not
eat into it. And just like every time he was
on screen it was just making me upset.
Speaker 1: So yeah, man, I feel like we just we went
from John Wick. We're like, man, when's the last time
this positive on a movie? I feel like this is
gonna be like this might be notorious, our most dislike
a movie we've lit, like the least ever or anything.
Show game like nothing but Taylor about kop did you
lay his hair great Halloween idea?
Speaker 5: Yeah, the hair was definitely a highlight. I liked when
we got the good Badison dressed up as the.
Speaker 1: Other your baby can be a little Yoshi or something,
but this version was a scary dancer questioned him, thumbs.
Speaker 5: You know, I like the good cop bag cop set
up that he's just playing like really nice.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh yeah, that Coopa, he's he's bad.
Speaker 5: He's talking, Yeah, he's he's just he's bad. And they're like, oh, well,
we you know, we need to talk to him, like
we need to talk to that pastor. You know, we
got this almost started standing all that stuff and then
he's like, where's the rock, and he's like, well, we
don't have the rock or something like I'm paraphrasing, of course,
but then he just turns on a dime and like
grocers like poking Luigi's eyes out of his face or
something like that, like your cooper what.
Speaker 1: He literally resorts liked said, ask them once, and when
they go like what rock, he then resources to gouging
Luigi's eyes. Like, doesn't go any further because they've actually
had the rock. So if you were to talk a
little bit more, they might be like, oh, that thing
on the string we saw, but no, he just resources it.
He's gonna fucking blind this innocent man.
Speaker 5: Supposedly, after the actors three hour fight with the director, he's.
Speaker 1: Very and then right after that point, like so much
for this good mayor didn't even pay off the cops.
The cop comes in first saying king Coopa, like he
he blows it around too, So, yeah, that was not
a great And we forgot to mention that they make
Mario Luigi both pretty stupid in this movie. They're very gullible.
They fall for things, which I'm sure they'll kind of
do in the animated one, but you gotta gotta strike
a b pretty smart in this. Yeah, he didn't pick
up all that this evil dude was King Koopa though
like that, Like I think he was, Like.
Speaker 5: I mean they were in this new world for what
five ten minutes.
Speaker 3: The mayor of the town like probably think, Okay, people
elected him. He's probably a decent dude, right.
Speaker 1: You think that Once I see that hair, I know
I know this guy. Anyone in that hairstyles on a
decent tube fue. Yeah, Mario, he's the I'll say he's
the smarter one of the two. I don't know if
I can call him smart, but I'll call him the
smarter one.
Speaker 5: M Yeah.
Speaker 3: I I like when he was sneaking into that well,
I didn't really like it, but this is a scene.
I should Instead of saying I like this, I should
say this was a scene. And when she's sneaking in
to save all the girls, because part of this, like
koop of plan, is that he's like, well, I know
a girl has this rock, and Daisy has it obviously,
but he doesn't know that. So he's just collecting random
women and like putting them into this room and just
logging them there. And there's a fucking goomba in there,
just like hanging out. So Mario like breaks in and
then he meets up with Daniella or he like you know,
signals to her like don't make a noise or something,
and then she tells one of her friends and then
in just like the most stupid way possible, she's like
hey Mario, like what he and then it just creates
this whole havoc situation where obviously the gupa hears that.
So it's like it's just so poorly done, Like it's
so dumb and.
Speaker 4: Like what is what does Daniella think Mario wanted her
to do in that moment, like go tell your friend
that I'm here, Like like I took it as distract
the goopa and there's only one enemy, you know, like
it's probably not that hard of the situation to do
without chaos.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I enjoyed the tunnel race because they're going
down there. At one point they just go back to
the kumbas and one is just riding on the other.
One for some reason enjoyed again meaning lightly like enjoyed
it as far as what's happening here, but yeah, one's
on his belly and then one's just on top of
him on his belly, and I understand the significance of it,
but the goog was fucking sucking that. It's like all
these guys.
Speaker 3: So that that scene, I swear they did like the
same turn so many times. I'm like, man, I feel
like this tube was actually like, you know, twenty feet
long or something, and it had two bends in it,
and they just.
Speaker 4: Like filmed it over and over again of them.
Speaker 3: Going through this because they always did, like they would
turn left, go straight for a bit, turn right, and
it was always that same movement.
Speaker 4: So I'm sure they did it that way.
Speaker 3: But I feel like, strangely enough, I don't know if
there was a Mario like pipe slide in a game
prior to that. Obviously, that was a big thing in
Mario sixty four, right, you're like racing the penguin and
stuff like that, and that since has like happened a
bunch of times, But I don't know if a game.
Speaker 4: Prior to that had like a tube race like this.
Speaker 3: So I thought it was interesting, Like, I don't know
if this somehow inspired the developers, Yeah, it'd be wild
if it did. So that that stood out to me
as being kind of a weird thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I should like this movie more
for this reference, but I couldn't. At one point, they
tell Maria like they gotta go do this stuff, and
Mario goes, oh, I was supposed to take Danielle to WrestleMania.
The most random fucking thing ever. I never remember there's
a WrestleMania reference in here, and I hate that it's
in here because it just dilutes and brings wrestling down
even more that we're affiliate with, Like, fucking mar this
Mario would go see WrestleMania. I don't want this guy
anywhere near the.
Speaker 5: Probably paid a pretty penny to get that shut out
into this movie.
Speaker 1: Oh god, I hope not. But like and like, same thing.
What's this plumber doing. He's trying to make ends meets,
He's buying tickets to WrestleMania and stuff like that. But anyways,
dyl was speaking about the girls. I hated the scene
where that first girl like took the rock and it
was the girl in the red and everything and she
That's when I got introduced to the boots. I hate
the boots so like I'm sure everyone else does, be like,
the Boots are so dumb these like sci fi metal
they spring up and then they just disperse air to
you know, replicate the Mario jumping stuff. But that whole
thing of the girl having them and then Mario having
to go dance with her later on the movie just
and then later on she smiles at Luigi and gives
them the boots. Oh my last point too. In that
same scene Dyl brought up where they get all the girls,
Mario starts to fight King Coop and he's off somewhere
and so it's Luigi Daisy and he's with all the
women there. And I don't know why this still still
help for me. It just made no sense and I
hated it. It's just he starts, he's come on, let's go,
and when the girls goes who are you? And he says,
he says, I'm Luigi Mario. You got a problem with that?
And then he starts to run and that same one goes, no,
not really, and then they run and I was just
like the whole dialogue. I didn't understood what in college,
because why would they just like who are you? And
then why would he respond I'm Luigi Mario. You got
a problem with that? Like saying it like it like
hook you up, like he's an established like crime fighter
or something. And then it was one of that the
movie has a bunch of those, but that one specifically
just said of why did this agree?
Speaker 3: Why does he even her response to just be like yeah, okay, yeah,
like what what was going on in the script and
whoever's writing that day?
Speaker 4: That was very puzzling and.
Speaker 1: Maybe that should have seen they made up on the
spot that would make it seem like because that's a
whole that's a classic movie lying right, oh you got
a problem, but just like I'm Luigi Mario, like okay,
so yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's that's an interesting thing. The composer Alan Silvestri, Yeah,
known for Avengers, Infinity War, Avengers Endgame. It's interesting to
look but he's done a lot of like big movies
and stuff like that. But it's interesting to trace back
from Endgame to this and his origins career.
Speaker 1: He's trying not to trace it back. Well, luckily he
had Back to the Future before this, so he had
that Craig going yeah, yeah, but he created the Avengers
theme because he also did Avengers once he created that legend. Yeah,
not so much here, but they're not his fault. Like
I'm not saying the music is awful, but there's nothing.
It's not like, oh this is trash, but like this
Mario theme is really.
Speaker 3: That's the thing, right, You would think that would be
fun at least, is let's do a couple of remixes,
like some underground theme stuff would work really well with
this setting.
Speaker 5: But they don't try to probably begging Nintendo let me
back in on this new movie. I swear I can.
I can do it good this time.
Speaker 4: There was a couple of moments I was expecting like
a I don't know, like an alternative version or remix
of like a classic mar song, like we had like
the main theme briefly in the very very beginning, like
when they had like one of like the logos come up,
like even before the movie started. Uh, but like even
just like when they're in like the like the tunnel
area was made like the din No No like just
those like really classics, but just like remix to make
it different and fit. I guess what they were going
for with this world. Uh, but that did not happen
at all. I was I was kind of surprised with that.
Speaker 1: Well, they don't get there. Oh, Brian Tyler's doing the
score for this one, so that's really good. Yeah, Brian
Tyler's good. He's he's done Guardings, but he's done a
bunch of other stuff. Now I'm being bad not naming
it and everything, but he's good. You search Apple Music, Spotify,
Brian Tye. He's done a lot of great movies and
stuff like that. Tired nobeer than me. I think he
did on the X Men's I think he's did like
Kingsman stuff like that. But he's done a lot of
good stuff. But yeah, speaking to your expecting music. Also
to list one of the tribute notes is they didn't
put their classic cautions ontil about sixty two minutes. So
the red which was annoying to me that they're even
just the regular Plumber outfits, weren't. They weren't wearing the
red blue. Like at one point Mario was wearing a
green jacket, which bugged the show to me, and then
Luigi was just wearing blue something with a hat and
a chain and stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he was wearing yellow and then yeah, and
then Luigi was wearing red at one point, I'm like,
are they just completely changing the colors like this? This
is weird when they're wearing dumb and dumber suits essentially
whatever those cousins were.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and they I hate the bad guys, little
reptile heads everything, like it's just it's just not a
great I hate that.
Speaker 4: Very very decision. Yeah, they have theas right, Yeah, they
have this issue that they just keep dancing and Coopa
keeps getting calls like the goombas are dancing again, He's like.
Speaker 5: Well, deal with it.
Speaker 4: In like the main fight when he's taking down like
Mario Luigi, very very strange and yeah, just weird faces,
just very weird all around all around.
Speaker 1: You remember, do you remember the first thing you got
called on that final fight before THEO was dancing.
Speaker 4: Sure, you're an egg sucker.
Speaker 1: There's yeah, oh sir, your pizza is ready, and he's
like time for that. But like I think that's all
percent in a way, like it was supposed to be
something serious at that moment. They just added to like
your pizzas series, I have time for that, and yeah,
poor guy.
Speaker 3: For whatever reason, the the actor that plays Toad in this,
his IMDb picture is one of those goombas, which is
very weird to me. Uh, like he's been in other stuff. Yeah,
he's done fourteen movies across his career, so fourteen more movies.
Speaker 4: Than any of us.
Speaker 3: But like, yeah, why is your picture on IMDb? Fucking goomba?
Speaker 4: You fought to keep that in there?
Speaker 1: Probably mm hmmm, Well because I'm pretty sure your agents, Nixon,
I'm pretty sure your agents can change the.
Speaker 4: Picture of this former agent just like fuck you asshole.
Speaker 7: Password locked the out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's still he's still acting herein something in
twenty twenty two, twenty thirteen stuff. But yeah, he.
Speaker 3: He's a guest on podcast series on It, says podcasters.
I don't know if that's the name of a pod
We should get him on and interview him.
Speaker 1: We definitely should. We should look into it, see see
what he has to say. Ask Hi about first question, why.
Speaker 4: Did they contact you to play Toad in The New
One Man?
Speaker 5: He probably has some good stories on sets that would
be really cool to get him on.
Speaker 4: What'd you do when that guy was screaming at the
director for three hours? Played my harmonica?
Speaker 1: Go ahead?
Speaker 5: So with Toad being a I guess he's a dinosaur
technically or whatever these species are, that was definitely very
change up. Yeah, very interesting. Like hairstyle too. It was
like a spiral, kind of like buzz cut. He was
just a conspiracy theory. There's Lucy Goosey. I loved it though,
because like when I'm when I was watching this and
we get to it's it was fun to look and
hunt for the Easter eggs, I guess, And when the
cops were like, hey, Toad, I'm like, oh, it's toed, Like,
oh it's Toad. Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 3: Well, oh, it's in the ballpark of Easter egg I
guess it's a bit of a stretch.
Speaker 4: What about the ball bomb? That was interesting? Yeah, yeah,
weird choice there.
Speaker 1: This movie was forty eight million dollars, but none of
the budget went towards those balls.
Speaker 3: Yeah the way, Yes, we saw that thing moving around
a lot, and I guess around it was funny, I suppose,
but it wasn't.
Speaker 4: It wasn't very funny around.
Speaker 1: All those cars that were decked out and individually like
made to look different and like those I don't understand
why they do that for the Mario movie, but they
still did it. And it's like a lot of effort
anytime I see like that. Yeah, the bomb was like
going on the road and all these cars avoiding it
and crashing. It's like, man, that's a lot of work
that went into this movie, and there really jobs.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Luckily people got paid, so good for them. You know.
Speaker 5: There's one scene which I didn't understand because the two
cops were side by side over Luigi Mario and they're
stolen cop car. And wait, just Luigi Mario, Luigi Mario
were in the cop car. Luigi Mario.
Speaker 1: So Luigi Mario and he and his brother Mario Mario.
Yeah Mario, you can say Mario and Luigi, but if
you say Luigi Mario, I just think you're talking about
just yeah, because his name is Luigi Mario Taylor. Remember
there's a scene there explaining the cops and the cops
like so there's three Marios. It's like, yeah, Mario Mario,
Luigi Mario. Right, you gotta be careful about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, continue, So the cop car is going along,
less about who's in the car.
Speaker 5: The bros, the super Bros.
Speaker 4: Perfect, yeah, Warrio, Luigi and Wigi Barrio.
Speaker 5: They're they're driving along and then you have the two
cops parallel to them, and then there's a scene where
they accelerate ahead of the brothers and then they like
do his side stop and like come to a complete halt,
and then this fire just burst out because I think
they're shooting flames on the sides, but the cop cars
just randomly explode and the Mario bros. Just they just
go right through because there was no barricade or anything.
The two cop cars just go stop and explode and
out of nowhere. Yeah, it just didn't make any sense.
Speaker 4: Terrible, I agree, Please.
Speaker 1: Yeah they did.
Speaker 3: This was the This movie had the snap in it.
At one point Mario and Koopa were kind of getting
fluttered into dust there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that loound so good.
Speaker 3: Prey just like Endgame once again, a lot of a
lot of connections between this and Endgames.
Speaker 4: This was the inspiration.
Speaker 1: Boots.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, there's so many connections.
Speaker 1: When he was scoring in Finny War and he saw
them disappear, he was a major.
Speaker 5: All negative memories.
Speaker 1: What's that? What do you do this movie? Yeah? Oh
my god. She's like, oh, look the rock is in
his place? Where the fuck? Coopa says they're going in
and out and all this stuff, And I wonder, I
don't know if they did they show that one guy
he turned into you ever get turned back.
Speaker 4: Who is sorry?
Speaker 1: Remember when at one point Coopa does get set up
to our Brooklyn and he turns a guy into a
monkey and then they get sent back down. This is when,
So I don't think that guy ever got changed. They was.
Speaker 4: I forgot about it.
Speaker 1: Monkey man terrible, terrible for his family.
Speaker 4: Origins, probably for the next one.
Speaker 1: You're right, yeah, yeah, yeah, because on the news and
they're gonna call the super Mario Bros. And they say,
the city know and some of this man turned into
a monkey whose family is abandoned now. But hopefully they
took care of him. You know, I'm pretty concerned. Hopefully
they're just gonna get to go into a zooer's compensation,
big time compensation. If I get turned into a monkey
at my job, I expect my family to get.
Speaker 4: Some good out of bananas you gifted.
Speaker 1: I can get those myself. Of a monkey.
Speaker 3: Imagine that you're trying to reconnect with your family, so
you like go, but there's like they just call, like
you know, animal services, and they like put you down.
Speaker 4: That'd be happening, put you down down? You get have
a monkey attack man. You saw what happened on Harambe. Yeah,
stranger things have happened.
Speaker 1: My only two notes I have left is once I
saw the nuns with the egg and it was over,
I'm like, oh, we're fucked like this movie because that's
where Daisy gets h egg. And I was like, once
I saw it, I was like, oh no, these nuns
with the egg.
Speaker 4: I was so confused as as to just like the
opening of this movie, it's just sixty five billion years ago,
whatever the hell number they said, probably a million billions
long time ago, but uh.
Speaker 5: Just Brooklyn.
Speaker 4: It's like, okay, I never thought of like sixty five
million years ago. It was just still Brooklyn, but okay. Uh.
And then we did like twenty years ago and it
was that origin and I thought it was like Bowser's
Origin because I'm like, okay, we got an egg creature
her this is And of course I'm still thinking positively
that like this this might be a Mario movie that
I can I can accept, But no, it's it's Daisy.
And I did not see that coming whatsoever. It's just
a human was hatched in this and I was like,
jot of the floor. This is probably three minutes into
the movie, already next into my hour forty four venture.
But yeah, it took a.
Speaker 1: While to get that cleared up for me too, because
I forgot she was in the eggs. I feel like
it's like halfway through and they finally explained that she
was in the egg and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: It was explained when Bowser almost called him Bowser king
Koopa was doing his little turning to her. Yeah, there
was a little tunny you know who you are, which
is like a very creepy scene.
Speaker 1: No one ever says that to me ever again because
so says you know who you are? Like what am
I supposed to see? I supposed to take from.
Speaker 4: More slobbery the better particular.
Speaker 1: And we have anything to trouble the fungus. They try
to get the mushrooms in here. There's an it's like
a shield that like pops up and use the right Yeah,
Daisy's father in fungus and stuff.
Speaker 3: Like that was like we never's like introducing himself, Luigi Mario,
to be specific.
Speaker 5: Great to meet you, sir.
Speaker 4: He like shakes his hand, which could be his whole
freaking heart or something like it's just a glob of.
Speaker 3: John's just like a hundred shots in on this whiskey.
His mind like what am I doing?
Speaker 1: And they're trying to make some humor. She's like, oh,
I know this is really soon, but I want you
to meet my dad, and like, know what's so weird
is he melts from the fungus and he ends up
in the chair and he says some stupid line like whoa,
what's what's going on? They never have a scene of
Daisy reuniting with her father at all in this whole movie.
She's been trying to get her dad back, loves her dad,
bowser sorry, King Kooper holds it overhead off, like, well,
I didn't kill your dad, but I have him. Not
a single scene of them together, so really, why the
fun did you pay an actor to come back? Maybe
that they didn't, maybe it's just some guy off the set,
but like, not a single scene between Daisy and her dad, pointless.
Speaker 3: Crazy I Travis, you mentioned like the ending sequence when
she pops back in and she's like, you're never going
to believe this?
Speaker 4: I did?
Speaker 3: You Guys find it strange too, because Mario's response to that,
he's just like, I believe and then the movie just
like fades to black. It was like a very jarring
just line delivery fade to black. All of it just
felt like obviously it feels like one of those like
like post credits kind of scene, so it feels like
the end of the movie.
Speaker 4: But the way he was shot and edited whatnot just
was very very bizarre.
Speaker 3: It felt like it was maybe a blooper or something
like that, and they're like, we only had this one take,
so we're just.
Speaker 1: Gonna move it in let the people know there'll be more.
Speaker 4: It's basically the ending of Back to the Future, though,
it's just this, yeah, that's that's what they're inspired by.
Speaker 1: Yeah, doc, Yeah, they literally just they quote it as
they want it back to the Future ending, and it's.
Speaker 4: Just like, yeah, I I at this point in the movie,
I understand this has nothing to do with other Mario,
but she just looks like she's straight out of like
Terminator or something with like her dark outfit, and uh yeah,
I definitely think just the instant like fade to black
and just credits was was very jarring because I was
expecting something else. I was relieved it's just like, Okay,
we're done, but still I'm I'm baffled as to just
what happened the whole movie, but also just that ending.
Speaker 1: Then don't forget right away, get hit with the original
song by rocks Net, you know. Yeah, yeah, it was
a big deal to get Rockstet. Apparently.
Speaker 4: I don't even forget off my screen before.
Speaker 5: I just turned off, turn off the movie. Yeah, they were.
Speaker 1: Really happy about rocks Net.
Speaker 5: So you didn't see the end credits scene, Kirkling, I
did not tell me about it, Taylor.
Speaker 4: Did they introduce the side character?
Speaker 5: They they reintroduced the Koopa cousins, you know, and we're like, oh,
you know, get your own kind of like what was
this show?
Speaker 1: Is there actually an end crits scene?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought I thought you were about to pull
up a fucking clip and then be like and then
show us something jokingly like you've done before. They like
Michael Keaton. Yeah, like, oh, first picture Michael Keaton, and
it's that Like I thought, there's an nd cret scene
with the coop of cousins. We had an end credits
scene as your.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was. There was really good thinking a businessman
here something like that and let me see, I'll pull
it up here.
Speaker 4: People would go through the credits on this one. Yeah,
oh my god, I found it. Okay, it exists.
Speaker 1: Fuck full screen?
Speaker 5: Can you hear that?
Speaker 4: No, y'all have to recite it to us, Taylor, So
there you go.
Speaker 5: So they're basically talking out in context. They're saying, like,
we want to do a video game screens on your
many many adventures. So here you go.
Speaker 3: Okay, two random lawyer type characters that we've never seen before.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what would you call it? Aggy's world? Is this
who they were supposed to be?
Speaker 1: Is like, yeah, yeah, they're Bowser children cousins.
Speaker 4: There you go, I could say, because weird, what a
weird end credit scene?
Speaker 1: I thought, I thought you guys did that.
Speaker 5: I stayed. I was watching the credits because like, yes,
you know, like like MUDs there dying, Like the music
was bumping in those credits.
Speaker 4: So oh it was fine. But after a minute, I'm out.
Speaker 1: This mass dance was me mad.
Speaker 3: I did not expect, like, when was the first post credits?
I thought it was like a later thing in history.
I didn't think back in nineteen ninety three we were
doing that.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. I guarantee him wrong. That one
that did before. I know Ferris Bueller was before this,
and that did it the whole Hey, the movie's over,
go Home. I guarantee there's something before but that I
think is known as like the iconic what started the
trend of like this one here? Yeah, this one. Yeah, no,
Ferris Bueller. She's like Luigi Mario specific Farris Bueller was
the and that started the trend there, so gotcha, gotcha.
Speaker 4: The video game reference. I don't even remember specific what happened,
but Luigi was like doing something that he kicked ass on.
He's like, oh, it's a good thing I did played
all those video games. Tying into the of course, that's.
Speaker 5: When he was fodeling like the dash inside the cop
car and Mario was like, how'd you learn to do that?
Speaker 1: He's like, it's sit on my butt plane this video.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Do you think in their world, like what is is
there a Nintendo console? Because does that exist with Mario games.
Speaker 5: It's just it's just the Stadia bro maybe just like Arcade.
Speaker 1: Games, the Stadia.
Speaker 6: Boldo, the Atari and yeah, Studio you reminded me two
of that, Like just yeah, when they're when they're driving
in the car.
Speaker 4: Like they're just like bickering the whole time and Mario
is like, fine, you drive, and he just like takes
his hands off off the wheel, just drives for it
and like head on collision, like with another vehicle. Luckily
the physics just allowed him to mountain on top. But
he's just like, fine, you take the wheel. Like they
would have died like instantly, just head on collision.
Speaker 1: But that is gonna say. Unluckily they survived because then
we got the rest of this movie.
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, that was an early portion. I think
Luig is like, how you.
Speaker 5: Still drive or how you still turning this?
Speaker 1: Like I'm not great writing the best.
Speaker 4: That was a good Luigi Taylor surprise with that one.
Do you have any other trivia?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take our last break your trivia, and then
our final thoughts and ratings, which will probably be breathed fast.
So alright, be right back and we're back. So, as
I said, it was hard. I do got some casting stuff,
so this will be but most of it was just
people talking about their experience being awful and stuff like that.
I talked about Hoskins and his son talked about Dennis
Hopper explained, yeah, but the shoes. His son said he
shouldn't have done it. During a chase scene, Bob Hoskins
broke his finger on the Van's door that slammed on
his hand. It was like, was Alma's fault, but he
apologized and he was accepted, probably because they're drunk. For
the rest of the film, Hoskins is wearing a cast
as painted pink to look like a hand. I actually
never looked out for it, but I guess it is there.
In addition to the finger, he was stabbed four times,
electrocuted and nearly drowned. And Bob Hoskins says, and that's
just what happened to me. That's about like because it
happened to a bunch of other like other people were
getting hurt and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: I'm good.
Speaker 4: Wait, he got stabbed four times.
Speaker 1: Broken finger, stabbed four times, electrocuted, and nearly drowned. That's
what he said.
Speaker 4: He got stabbed four times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably by like the with akoop like something like that. That's
probably not a deep stab, but like it pierced the skin.
Uh Dennis Hawper. And this is a reoccurring theme that
people would ramp so the directing duo as a wife and.
Speaker 4: Just reaction that was just poor working environment.
Speaker 5: My gosh, he has scars.
Speaker 1: Because of this movie, or he had scars becus of
the movie. I didn't include them all, but this was
a reoccurring thing that that people would bitch about the directors.
They were a husband and wife duo and apparently that
people were not happy with, like how they It sounded
like they weren't getting set. It sounded like the husband
and wife duo didn't have a good working relationship. And
then so that kind of led down as well. But
Hawper said it was a nightmare very honestly that movie.
It was a husband wife directing who were both control
freaks and wouldn't talk before they made decisions. Anyway, I
was supposed to go down there for three weeks and
there for seventeen. It was so overbudget. I talked about
the drunk thing. Allegedly due to the drinking. John Lomzama
was hit by a car, breaking his leg. You can
even see a cast on and some shots, So like.
Speaker 5: You, this is what you don't drink at work. People
like the injuries would they have permitted if they just
weren't hammered on.
Speaker 4: To an extent. It's like, you can't you can't blame
the director.
Speaker 1: They get that work safe claim and literally this is
Bob Hoskins in a separate interview, saying like the exact
same thing. Miss Hopper said, it was a fucking nightmare.
The whole was a nightmare. Had this husband and wife
drepping duo whose arrogance had been mistaken for talent After
so many weeks, her agent told them to get offset
fucking nightmare. Fucking idiots.
Speaker 4: That's better written than any line in this. Yeah, how
do like just producers like not like it's so weird,
like just in today's day and age of like just
I feel like we're we're hearing so many like producers
like wanting to micromanage things. Where is this just like
it seemed like they just had a project. We'll come
collect it when it's done.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's the nineties, man, It was just Mario
the movie. The entire cast and crew disliked the fair
directing duos for the ubnoxious.
Speaker 7: And controlling behavior. They were regularly rewriting the script and
making major changes to the film without telling each other,
miss without telling the numbers of the crew. The film
crew were regularly refer to them by insulting names, and
even had t shirts made that displayed rude comments, specifically
Bob Hoskins had a shirt that called them the sea word,
and the cow reportedly at the point was so fed
out with them and drawn out constantly changing production.
Speaker 1: He's been almost three hours yelling them we went over that.
But yeah, so I guess now they at one point
the cast and crew wearing shirts making fun of the
directors while they're filming this movie. So it was, you know, something.
Speaker 4: Like not great now it too crazy?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. And then the original director, Peter Levy of
Director of Photography was fired after the rector's producers were
unhappy with his work. You opee named Dean Seemly was
called and replace him within less than a week of joining.
He called Levy and said that this is a big
regret signing on this movie, and he dodged a bolt,
so he knew a couple of days in like the
guy that they had previously, good for you for missing it,
and then finally.
Speaker 3: Sorry, Well, I just want to say, like, I think
there's actually a documentary on this movie that was released in.
Speaker 4: Like twenty twelve or something like that there.
Speaker 3: Which I I didn't watch this movie until like yesterday,
where I watched it in two days like Kirkland and
yesterday I finished it, and I was looking up stuff.
I wish I had watched it a bit sooner than
I would have had, like actual time to go check
out this documentary and see some of this stuff, because
I genuinely want to see just like because obviously there's
a lot of vitrial from all sides of this thing.
I would be so curious to see just like truly
where it started. I don't know, not that that documentary
would get into all that nadye griddy if it's you know,
seventeen weeks of filming or something like.
Speaker 4: That, but man, it's gonna look in it's wild. This
is very weird.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So looking at these two directors, it looks like
the wife she directed something up so like twenty eighteen
she did something called Tell It to the Bees, and then.
Speaker 1: It seems like the.
Speaker 5: Husband they were directing things. It looks like a lot
of these projects are all both directed by them until
they got to Super Mario Bros. That was the last
thing they did together.
Speaker 4: It appears to be did they stay together or.
Speaker 5: They have different last names now, So.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is the downfall.
Speaker 5: They're no longer Luigi Mario and Mario fans.
Speaker 1: Yet the game no, and I think they did direct
something before this that was like relatively hit or something
like they had something that there was some stock of
why they got this gig. Nothing massive, but nothing. I'm like, oh,
we could trust them and clearly didn't happen. So here's
some other casting choices to end this off. Tom Hanks
was considered for the role of Luigi, but due to
failures Turner and Hoot and Joefer's Volcano, the studio believed
he was no longer box office draw. So thank god
those bomb because it kind of got him off his radar.
Matthew Broadwick, Tom Hanks, Kevin Klein, Keanu Reeves, Christian Slayer,
and John Taturo will all considered for Luigi. So we
almost were close again to Keanu Luigi, but didn't.
Speaker 4: Have John Teturo. I like that.
Speaker 1: I like that too. That would have been fun. Yeah.
Michael Keaton was approached to play Cooper but passed on
the rule. Arnold Schwartzenegger also turned down the role. Other
actors that were talked to was Tim Curry and Sean Connery.
Speaker 5: Tim Curry perfect.
Speaker 1: He actually would have been better than this. He would
have put on some effort. But before both Hoskins was
at officially cast. Dan DeVito and Bernard Kirby were both
attached to play the role Mario. I think Dan DeVito
was like a natural, like I'm sure that was close
at times and stuff other people talked to at the
time for Mario was also John Taturo for Mario, Jim Belushi,
Michael Key again, so he turned but did he turned
out Mario and then like, well what about Coop?
Speaker 5: But he just never responded.
Speaker 1: I think yeah, And this is a year after Beetlejuice too,
so I think he was like, I'm gonna pass on that.
Joe Pesci alber Platte uh and then of course, which
I don't know how this would have went, but Nicholas
Cage they talked to you about wow as Mario, which
I don't know what they were thinking there. Then Nick
Cage is a big star. But yeah, those were some
of the things. But yeah, weird any last uh right,
still must put this movie to rest.
Speaker 3: I'll bring back the number system and give this a
one out of ten.
Speaker 4: Special occurrence.
Speaker 3: You know, there's some effects in there that are all right.
You know, there's some decent acting from some drunk people.
I don't know, I don't know number systems flawed. So
so this movie.
Speaker 4: I'll piggyback with that. I'll go one out of ten.
My one point would be the actual like execution of
those like like vehicles and like.
Speaker 5: Just some of the hallways.
Speaker 4: It's just in those moments, like Travis you brought up
multiple times on this, it's just like thinking about the
people that were just working on this, like they did
a good job of like making those things what they
like what they.
Speaker 1: Were told me.
Speaker 5: I don't I'm not a.
Speaker 4: Fan of yeah, yeah exactly, but I can't just look
at like some of those things and say like, oh,
it's shitty, like it looks shitty. No, like like it
looks like it was done well. But the blueprint was
was certainly flawed, certainly flawed. I never want to watch
this movie again. This was this was a rough one.
Speaker 5: I do not.
Speaker 4: Recommend this movie to anybody. I was gonna say, like,
if you're extremely curious, I guess so. But like Travis
you said earlier, just just I think what we talked
about here was was enough.
Speaker 1: Twenty minutes shorter two you know, yeah, yeah, I think
you and Dian are right. I just can't get that
I gotta give the goose it. I can't. There's just
so much bad here. It's just like my eyes hurt
from that experience. But no, I cast and crew and stuff,
and especially the crew that went through hell and getting
stabbed and electrocuted and all this stuff, like maybe brought
yourself a little bit for drinking, but still it sounds
like it's a terrible time. But uh, yeah, zero zero.
Speaker 4: You've seen it four times and you've been in A
zero's this.
Speaker 1: Is gonna be the last one. Yeah, Like I said,
the first two, I count as like a kid, so
it's kind of like some blinders on.
Speaker 5: But yeah, Tairfield, Yeah, it was kind of going back
and forth between two numbers. But I think I'm gonna
go a one point five. I was thinking the two
because like I was like, I just but I feel
like that's a little too positive by one too far,
it's too much. I I but at the end of
the day, I do like Mario. I do like Luigi
in this movie. I like their they're like dialogue with
each other. And I did enjoy Like you were talking
about the set pieces and stuff like that, there was
a lot of fun, Like as soon as we went
down to this alternate dimension seeing the city like bomb
them cafe, all that kind of stuff. Like I thought
it was fun to bomb cafe. Think about that.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go to this cafe.
Speaker 5: I I just thought like this is uh, you know,
this is such a neat place, like like I loved it.
They did like an equivalent of this for you know,
like you go to.
Speaker 1: You know, universals in the male world, imagine that opening
days like here we go kids. They opened the doors.
Speaker 6: And it's not from the games, it's from this there's
the underground and.
Speaker 5: Brooklyn Fus versions Bowser, but they see Koopa, this fucking
guy with this haircut and this long.
Speaker 1: Guy the stage actor. Hey dad, I remember.
Speaker 5: Just drunk smell like alcohol.
Speaker 1: Oh man. Well this was a terrible movie. But we
I think we had a good time talking about this.
We learned some Mario lore, learned about some stabbings, and
we talked. We reviewed this and it is done. I'm
looking very forward to in a week when we all
get to force it here and talk about hopefully and
when imagine will be a positive experience with the Super
Mario Bros. This one's Super Mario Bros. The next one
Next week is the Super Mario Bros. Can't wait, Donkey Kong,
the whole crew. It's gonna be a good time. So
thank you very much for tuning in. We'll be back
next week from Rush from Kingdom and we'll be boring.
Speaker 4: See here we come.
Speaker 3: We