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Speaker 2: Oh gross, pickles are fucking disgusting. That's so gross. It's
so gross that you're eating that ship.
Speaker 3: Do you really not like pickles?
Speaker 2: I really hate pickles, super hate pickles. Yeah, it's like
Mayo to me. It ruins it, it ruins everything. It's
if if pickle juice touches like a fry or like
my burger, it's over. It's like, oh, like and taste.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't go to Chick fil A. Should not
go there because the pickles.
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Speaker 6: Oh really, yeah, it's crazy because I enjoy their chicken,
but I hate pickles.
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vin or something. Right, it's not pickley.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, sugar, but no, like it's they brandan pickle
and literal.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they.
Speaker 2: Yeah, gross, I'm gonna go to chick play. Uh. Well, anyway,
we're here to talk tonight, guys about episode seven of
this season of the Challenge called Kayak Challenge. But we
can't review it in twenty twenty five came out almost
twenty years ago. We have to go back to July tenth,
two thousand and six in our minds to properly review
this show. So we will do that by talking about
things that happened at the time. Top TV shows at
the time we talked about it. Uh, but uh, we'd
expand on that top TV shows were psych Brotherhood and uh,
hot Red I don't even know what that is. I've
never heard of it. Yeah, I mean that, I don't
know hot Wired hot hot Wired, hot Wired with a why? Yeah, okay,
hot Wired with the why weird all right? And top Movies.
I don't either. Pirates of the Caribbean, Caribbean, dead Man's Chest,
the others we talked about. Uh songs, all the same
same songs. No events. Really just says big big film,
big big year for films. He gives a shit. All right,
are we there? Are we there? Guys? Are we in
two thousand and six? In our minds? Yes we are?
The answer is yes. Uh. This episode seven is called
Crossing Paths. We start with a barnight and Derek's drunk. Guys,
Derek is drunk. Derek's always drunk, but he's not kicking frogs.
That's that's the better Derek when he's kicking frogs, frogs. Yeah,
remember he's kicking the frog. And what season is that?
Zachie was kicking the frog. He was drunk and kicking
the frog.
Speaker 4: I remember him kicking it.
Speaker 6: I remember him getting drunk and talking to a frog
like you're my only friend.
Speaker 2: It was great. It was great. It was great, Like
I don't mean kicking like violently, but like nudging it
with his with his toes. Yes, yeah, it was great.
Love that a frog.
Speaker 4: I think that was like Gauntlet or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good. That's the only time I like Derek.
Speaker 4: I hate Derek where they ran him over with a
golf cart.
Speaker 2: He's just the drunk. He's just the drunk asshole guy. Yeah,
all right, so Derek, No, Derek's trunk, we went over that. Uh.
Tanya and Johnny are talking. They're trying to figure out
why they're losing. Tanya's especially as very upset. Yeah, they
both have weaknesses. Tanya has more than Johnny. Obviously, Johnny
can't carry oatmeal, but it seems otherwise capable of things.
And then Wes is talking on the phone to Johanna
back home again, just fucked up, incredibly weird that he's
able to do this, but he's kind of throws not
back home.
Speaker 3: She's literally sitting in a hotel.
Speaker 2: Room, like still weird, still so weird, and Wes is
all weird. He's like, nobody even cares I'm bagging, nobody's happy,
nobody likes this. I don't know, it's weird. Wes is
being weird. It's a weird thing. Evan went to the hospital.
He's got hernia. Guys.
Speaker 3: It was the first time we hear about this hernia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never had one. Anybody here on the podcast
had a heardia. No, No, sounds awful, looks bad.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it does not sound great. But we're gonna hear
about it a lot, and there's gonna be a lot
of discussion back and forth between him and the camera,
really between him and us, whether this is worth going.
Speaker 2: Home or not. That is right. We get no additional
details for now. Oh look at that. Oh that's cool.
It's it's it's a t rex skull though.
Speaker 1: With the Jaws, the.
Speaker 3: Jaws earlier skull.
Speaker 1: Are you singing the Jurassic Park theme if you?
Speaker 3: I couldn't. I couldn't remember the Jurassic Park theme.
Speaker 2: As it goes? What came into my head?
Speaker 3: For anyone who wants to see.
Speaker 2: Somewhere Zach, we just start a band?
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, is it not loud enough?
Speaker 1: It is away from it pretty quiet?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 5: Sorry, Yeah, if anybody wants to see what I just
showed the guys, I will put it in.
Speaker 3: Our discord or send it to guys.
Speaker 5: They can put it the discord, or you can get
a ponderous guy dot com.
Speaker 2: Just do something, follow.
Speaker 4: On TikTok.
Speaker 3: Or Instagram.
Speaker 2: Uh, I'm a minute, I'm trying to do it. Carlin
keeps plugging her ship.
Speaker 3: Oh, robot, robot Tim.
Speaker 2: Oh my breaking up. Sorry, I'm I back.
Speaker 1: Tim's internet got and I was frozen.
Speaker 2: Oh am I back? Hello, my back testing testing? I'm
in and off.
Speaker 3: No, I mean you're kind of back.
Speaker 2: No man, no, no, no, I just gotta.
Speaker 1: On the internet again somehow from your own.
Speaker 4: Well way for Tim's Internet. I come back on if
you guys felt this way.
Speaker 6: But there's a point during this episode where DM had
a confessional and I was like, oh, that's right, DM's
on this season.
Speaker 5: I feel like that happens a lot with a lot
of the people on this show. But yes, I felt
like that would DM, especially. Yeah, there are a few
people on the show that I'm like, oh, that's right,
they are here weird.
Speaker 2: Most of them. I've no idea how these people are.
Am I back? Yeah, You're all right? Good. You guys
are always totally fine for me. Weird tech is weird.
Derek reads the clue them the like the the you know,
the cheesy line that kind of alludes to what this
challenge is is don't get out of line. Uh and
diam as you talked about, dem says this game is
making her forget that she has cancer at all.
Speaker 3: Is good for her.
Speaker 2: It is weird watching this knowing that she's dead now
from cancer. Yeah, yes, anybody have weird feelings about this?
Or is that just me?
Speaker 3: I think that's just you.
Speaker 1: No weird feelings, sad feelings, sad feelings, no weird things.
Speaker 6: Like I just said, I just felt like she's so
under edited the last three episodes, and when she popped
up here, I was like, yeah, I just totally forgot
she's even part of the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I feel like she had she had a big storyline,
like when she first came out about her cancer, and
she will have a big storyline in our next batch
of episodes.
Speaker 3: But yeah, and these ones, she's kind of not there.
Speaker 2: Yeah a lot of people are that way. Really, these
twenty minute episodes weird. All right, Well that's it, guys,
Time for the challenge, Zachie, how do you play this challenge?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 6: This is the one where they had a giant rope
over the water.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, people starting on both sides.
Speaker 6: And they have to cross over the rope at the
same time and get.
Speaker 4: To the other side without falling in.
Speaker 2: Yep. This is this is a cool one actually, and
weird that we haven't ever seen this since I really
kind of like this. This is a good partner challenge.
I think, what do you guys think about this one?
Speaker 5: I think it was fun to see it engaged the
audience a little bit more.
Speaker 3: Kind of strength, kind of endurance, mind over matter type
of thing. Heights.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good well rounded like it's got kind
of a lot of elements. There's no puzzle solving really,
but you know there's a lot of other stuff here. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Before challenge, Coral and I've been talking about being like,
we don't know if anyone will be able to finish this,
except I just feel in the same way I was like, oh,
they're just gonna have failure after failure.
Speaker 4: But the group is holded pretty good on this challenge.
Speaker 2: Yeah they really did. Yeah, they really did.
Speaker 5: The quote unquote weaker girls definitely found ways to get
across without having to expend like without yep, I mean
they still expended all their energy, but they found ways
to get across, and yeah, it was impressident.
Speaker 2: Yep. So I just have some kind of highlights from
this challenge Derek and Dem. Derek does some cool shit
where he drops down and hangs from by his Justice
arms for a minute and then gets back up. Look
kind of bad ass. They were the first ones to go,
so that seemed like really kind of cool and remark
all the time. Shane Fell, friend of the show, Shane, Yeah,
first person to fall, very sad.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: And then we get Johnny. Johnny does the Superman straight
arming it where he's just like, I'm not even gonna
fucking put my feet on this thing at all. I'm
just gonna go, and he does he just yeah, he
does it. It's crazy.
Speaker 6: I fully expected him to get the Dodo music and
just face planned into the water.
Speaker 4: I was very shocked.
Speaker 5: When he first started. I thought that exact same thing.
When he made it all the way across.
Speaker 3: Oh all right, yep.
Speaker 2: He crushed it. Yes, he did really well, and Tany
did too. So yeah, in my notes here I have
dim is struggling, but she does make it. You know,
we saw it. We said Derek did the Superman thing.
But Dim has a hard time, but she just keeps
going inch at a time and she makes it.
Speaker 3: She is fucking terrified of heights. Yeah, this is not
a great one for her.
Speaker 2: Yep, And Aviv reminds me of Dim where he was
giving it her all, like she was really trying her
hardest and she just couldn't do it. She just didn't
have it in her to get this done. And else
I'm fine with this, but Aviv does also fall. West
crushes it. Wes does crazy at the end of it.
He's like doing fucking pull ups to waste his energy
while Casey struggles. What do you guys think about this scene?
Speaker 1: With two energy?
Speaker 4: But how many pups can you do? Wolfy?
Speaker 1: I could probably do at least two.
Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's my point is that
most people are getting to the end of this like
dying on their last breath, and Wes is at the
end of it looking at Casey he was about to
fall and just being like, fucking I'm just gonna do
pull ups and like, waste my time here.
Speaker 4: He didn't need to do.
Speaker 1: On Tim's assertion that he's wasting his energy. He did
it at the very end, like, because.
Speaker 2: My point is he had energy to wait, he like
didn't struggle with this. Wes did fine, Yeah he did not.
Speaker 5: I think he may have also done the Johnny of
just straight arm all the way cross.
Speaker 2: He started halfway.
Speaker 6: I was like, Oh, this is gonna be his like story,
He's gonna do the pull ups and then gonna finish
and like not be able to get back up and fall.
But once again he made it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I really think by the by the time
he did the pull ups, he'd already made it. He
was just watching Casey and I think he he's a showman,
so I think he was just sort of sucking.
Speaker 3: Around and have been though.
Speaker 5: If he was like literally inches from the platform started
doing pull ups and then lost his grip.
Speaker 2: That would have been great. That would have been great.
Nobody would have laughed more than me. That would have
been great.
Speaker 1: If he would have fallen, it would have been the
best thing of every episode we're watching this session.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he doesn't fall. Instead, he's there on the platform,
Casey is fucking struggling, She's not gonna make it, and
she's crying out and she's like, Wes, I'm so sorry,
and Wes just sort of says like, hey, I know
you can't make it. It's fine, just fall, but like
fall feet down, Like but.
Speaker 5: You could only fall if you promised to give your
all tomorrow in the in the exile.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also he didn't sure, but he didn't need
to say that. Casey has been giving it her all
during the exiles. They won every time. I don't know, and.
Speaker 7: That's what he's gonna do, Like, yeah, it was funny,
Like this was hilarious.
Speaker 2: He was just doing this to fuck with Casey and
I get that. And then as confessionally says, I even
have to coach her through quitting, right, which I don't know.
It's funny to me.
Speaker 3: He's just such a fucking dick in this season.
Speaker 2: Yep, it's great. And then big easy falls, which I
think all of us would have expected, like all of
us would have put money on that one, right, Yeah, but.
Speaker 5: He kind of like like he was trying to do something,
trying to make a move, and then it kind of
rope just kind of like bounced and he lost his
grip as the rope went down and came back up,
And yeah, I mean it's not surprising that he fell.
Speaker 3: Funny to watch.
Speaker 2: Yep. H and so guys, Theo and Shanda actually win
this one. Evan and Korro gets second place. I don't
even have any notes on how they did because I
guess I only made notes on people that kind of
sucked it up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really need to make that song.
Speaker 2: But they did well, and they need to decide who
goes into exile, and of course they we have a
short scene with them sort of debating on it, but
they decide it's Wes and Casey pretty easily. I don't
think it was a real debate. I think it was
just sort of a one of those fake debates.
Speaker 3: Maybe should we give somebody else a chance.
Speaker 2: Not pass it?
Speaker 4: I think they knew that either way, west in case
you're going in.
Speaker 6: So it's that thing of well, do we get blood
on our hands and pick who we want to go
against them, or do we just take the easy route
and let the house like make the hard choice.
Speaker 3: Always take the easy route.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's what they did.
Speaker 5: Unless your goal in the game is to start fights,
always take the easy route.
Speaker 6: Oh, I think you know, if you're if they felt like,
you know, they're kind of once Austin's gone there kind
of at the bottom of the dubumpole, it might be
a good idea to throw like a toll human.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's exactly where we are, Zach, because now
that Austin is gone, Wes says this too, that you know,
it's Wes and Casey going in, but who's gonna go
against them? Because it's been the house versus those two
and now they need to pick off their friends, and
so Wes says, there's gonna be fireworks now that these
friends have to pick each other instead of just picking
on the Austin alliance, which I think is true. Now
we're going to see how how tight these allegiances actually are.
So we're gonna head into de nomination seems to be
a choice between Kenny and Tina and Johnny and Tanya
Uh and Johnny seems to realize that really this vote
is essentially because of Tanya. Everybody kind of likes him,
but it comes down to Tanya rubbing people the wrong way,
not making friends the house, not getting along, and so
he's just sort of the victim in here. But he's
like okay with it. He's like, yeah, this is how
it goes. It's politics, that's what it is uh, and so, yeah,
they are ultimately targeted. But do you guys think of
this and Johnny's reaction.
Speaker 5: I'm honestly kind of surprised that it was even a
choice between Kenny and Tina, and the two of them,
like the way that so many people in the house
don't like Tanya, I'm surprised they didn't just automatically have that, like,
of course it's gonna be them.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: It's interesting because I generally think of Penny as a,
you know, pretty good competitor, but I feel like the
story of him so far this season is he's looked
at as one of the weaker men.
Speaker 3: Yeah, season he definitely is.
Speaker 2: Even Evan says it a few times, throws Kenny in
and like we know how that worked out, and they're
like the best of friends and we'll never do that again.
But yeah, this first season their friend and they're footing here.
It's gotta be Tina, right, Tina's Tina is the bad competitor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, those of them are great in this season.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's definitely Tina about you. I don't
think Kenny's doing himself in favors either, and.
Speaker 5: In all reality, like, if you think about it. Kenny
has always kind of been hit or miss, like he
gets he he gets looked at as a really good
competitor because of the Jeck era, because he has this
really strong only allegiance with Evan and Johnny. But like,
there's a season where he's paired with Wes where he's
quote unquote lost his mojo for like sill a solid
like half of the season.
Speaker 2: I remember that.
Speaker 3: Does Carrie West literally Carrie Wes at one point in time.
Speaker 5: But he sucks it up hardcore for a good amount
of those episodes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that first Rivals.
Speaker 6: He went on a three season streak where he won
three seasons in a row that people are like, oh,
so Kenny's like really good then.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's just but did he all of those
seasons were with teams of partners, right, yes, yeah, So
it's just I don't know. It's one of those things
where it's like he's good, but at the same time.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, no, he's good. I I do think Kenny
is one of the best to play the game. I
really do.
Speaker 5: He's really good the political side of the game. He
has the he's funny and a lot of people really
like him, which helps him.
Speaker 6: I think he's had on cold because you know, if
we jump ahead to like Freshman too, then you know
he's kind of in the West position that season of
having to win every week, and he does.
Speaker 2: Do you guys hear this cat? Do you hear this?
Do you hear this fucking cat made? Look at this cat?
Look at how cute this cat is. This is my boy.
This is my third This is my third child. Now
do you guys know I had a third child. His
name's Lurch.
Speaker 3: Because you bring him up every episode.
Speaker 2: He's the but he's the best. He's the best.
Speaker 4: Are you keeping him inside at night?
Speaker 2: No? He won't, he won't do it. You guys, hear
what he's doing to me? You think I do teller
this at night? He comes and he scratches my forehead
if I keep it.
Speaker 3: This episode?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we have one more thing to talk
about this episode than we're ready to call this one
a day.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: There's a conflict between Derek and Tanya. Tanya is mad
because Derek voted for her to go into exile. She thinks, hey,
you should have stood up for me, You should have
like advocated for me. In Derek's point, as well you
were going in anyway? Why would I go against the house?
It was it was a done deal. Yes, we've talked
about this before, but where are you guys staying on
this particular conflict. What should Derek have done?
Speaker 5: I still don't understand why she thinks that he why
this potential allegiance is even there. I mean, have they
had some sort of thing in the past.
Speaker 2: They're just friends. I think they've just played this game,
and I think Derek said she's one of his closest friends.
Speaker 1: Gotcha again, you don't vote against the rest of the
house if you don't.
Speaker 5: Have to, especially when it's a unanimous vote, like of
course he's going to vote for you.
Speaker 3: Just suck it up and deal.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It may not feel great, but like that's this game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what we'll talk about it too. I mean
this this keeps coming up, these sort of symbolic votes
that people feel offended when they don't go their way.
Tina does it here in the next episode. But it's
sort of is like it doesn't matter. It doesn't fucking matter.
But that's a logical argument, not an emotional one. And
there's obviously a difference there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Tina or Tanya gets all upset because she
also feels like people are trying to spin it that
they deserve to go in, and she's like, look, it's
very obviously not marit based. Just straight up say you
don't like me. Yeah, at least perspect for telling the truth.
Speaker 3: Give that to her. Yeah, just say it to my
face that you don't like me.
Speaker 5: And that's why why we're going in, because you don't
want to vote for your friend Tina instead of me.
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 1: Was this the episode where West is like, oh, yeah,
I get to sit and watch see how good of
friends you guys are use quote fingers, see who's gonna
get voted in? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the point where, yeah, the easy targets
are gone. So yeah, this is It's gonna get tricky now,
be fun to watch.
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Speaker 1: Who who is Tana's top eight back in where the
show came out?
Speaker 7: David Duchovny, I mean probably like, uh hooters her fingers
from all the vomiting.
Speaker 2: Victoria's secret.
Speaker 4: But I don't know who's in her topic.
Speaker 6: But I do know who was in the post credit scene.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right.
Speaker 6: So in this week's postcresscene, we see Derek sneaking into
the fridge and grabbing a whole carton of eggs and
then sneaking up, sneaking up behind Shane who is doing dishes,
and starts pelching him with eggs.
Speaker 3: What the fuck?
Speaker 4: Casey is also in the kitchen and starts screaming at Derek.
Then he hit her with an egg.
Speaker 6: Shane then just runs at Derek and they start getting
into like a pillow fight and food fight mixed together.
Derek runs back into the kitchen grabs like a big
bucket of some liquid and pours it on Shane and
like finally, Shane's like enough enough, and he's like, Derek,
I'm not mad at you. I'm just mad that you
ruined my sleep mask.
Speaker 3: Well at least it wasn't one of the red.
Speaker 2: Light ones, so Shane's consistent. Yeah, that's what we've learned.
That's what we learned about Shane.
Speaker 3: That was one of the best fights ever.
Speaker 2: Shane. Friend of the Show, Friend of the Show.
Speaker 6: I was trying to see if I could find a
modern day picture of Tonic because we were wondering what
she's up to now. I can't find any recent buttons
of her, but I did find out that she's still
live in Walla Walla, Washington and she's working as a
hairdresser in her own business.
Speaker 1: Good for someone posts that she said she wanted to
be on All Star six Needs Far Away from.
Speaker 2: I would like to see her again. I would really
like to see her again.
Speaker 4: We want geez.
Speaker 3: Worry about her.
Speaker 2: I do too, but not that worried about it. I
would like to see her on the show.
Speaker 1: They are better at taking care of people's mental health,
so this would be the time for her to go on.
Speaker 2: Let's do it, Tanya, Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Thanks everybody for this episode of Challenge.
Speaker 2: That has been Brian Ezac.
Speaker 4: Sweee, Carling san Diego.
Speaker 1: And as uh Derek probably said, I hope you have
an excellent time.
Speaker 5: Oh my god,