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the Game Mesticides Podcast. This is the podcast where we
decide everything about the world of games. You never have
to think for yourself. I'm your host, Jeff Grubbin. With
me is Mike Manati. In today's episode, the Borderlands movie
is an entire ass. New details on Bungee Restructure, Mount
rushmore bad video game movie adaptations, and the results of
the Game Mess Hall of Fame inductee ceremony. But first, Mike,
how are you doing? Oh? Wow?
Speaker 2: I never vote on that. I guess I shouldn't vote
on that. Uh, I'm good. See this is podcast three
or four, and you try to get me to do
a fifth one. I didn't fall for it.
Speaker 1: Uh wait, So what should what'd you do this morning? Oh?
You okay?
Speaker 2: That's right, you have okay, power BombCast. I just did
the Game Mess Game Club. We're doing this now and
then we have Columbros after this. That's right, that's absolutely okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So there's a lot happening today everybody. So we're
gonna we're gonna be punchy and fun or annoying and
mad and like easy to anger. But that's a good
episode too.
Speaker 2: I have a drink a beer on a podcast and
all years is that time I almost dehydrated and died
in your car and clean?
Speaker 1: Sure, but you earned it. If you want one tonight,
of course, you have my permission and you do need
that before you drink on podcasts, So that'd be fun.
Uh yeah, I am. I'm feeling pretty good over here.
Busy because I also recording four podcasts today, three or
something like that. I did games mornings, this and one
have the other one. Yeah, four podcasts, so, uh, Thursdays
usually are pretty busy. It's also trash night, so that
always takes up more time. Yeah, you get it, all right?
Speaker 2: That takes does it? Does it take up time?
Speaker 1: I guess it's more, But to do it's more that
I just like put off Like no, I'm like, I'll
take care of the trash for the most part. It's
you know, Stefph made dinner. I'll get the trash. It's
just I'm like those trash cancer all the way upstairs.
I'll get those.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see them. Yeah, okay, okay, I get that
sort of fan. Yeah, but I have a one floor
situation in my life these days. You know, yes, yeah,
I used to live a multi floor lifestyle and no,
it's just one floor. Like sometimes it's like, oh, I
gotta do laundry and that's in the basement. I'm like, well,
this is a pretty big to do. I gotta go downstairs.
And Petty does not like it when I go downstairs.
I don't want to take her down there. As much
a weird shit you can get into, sure.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah. Other than that, it's like I am also
now a little bit in between on games trying to
like get some momentum started on a few things.
Speaker 2: In the beat.
Speaker 1: Thousand year door, is what you promise me? Trying to
get momentum back into a thousand year door. Yes, I
did a officially hurt this hand playing Nintendo World Championship.
Now incredible. It's like it's definitely a repetitive stress injury,
and I like, I definitely like weakened it and then
I like lifted something up and that's like, actually what
caused the pain. But it's like I could tell that
this is like a tendon from holding down the deepad
in one direction for hours at a time. I don't know,
uh so credible. I am on a injured reserve for
a Nintendo World Championship for now, So I have to
put that game aside.
Speaker 2: I've got to get my wee break. This is my
week exactly. We'll see see. So get in there, make
it happen. But that means I gotta find some other games.
Speaker 1: But that's a perfect excuse to stop playing that and
go play a thousand year Door instead, which probably will
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That'll get you into the podcast producers. All right, big
topics of the week? You ready, Mike, Mike, you ready?
Borderland's real bad. Uh, it's real bad. According to the reviews,
I haven't seen it yet. I do kind of have
more interest in seeing it now that I see it's
at six percent after forty seven reviews on Rotten Tomatoes.
Speaker 2: Hey, it keeps going up. It started at zero.
Speaker 1: That's right, it's up an infinite percentage. Actually right, Yeah,
when you do the math, zero times an infinite number
would not reach what it's done today. Yeah. Basically, people
are just like, it's super derivative. It is. It is
like a really off brand Guardians of the Galaxy, only
without any of the charm and a lot more not
like emotional sadness, but pathetic sadness, which is just a
real cocktail for a good time. They like, it's not
even so bad, it's good. And I'm like, oh, you
don't understand. I don't. I don't want to. Yeah, I
don't believe you. Right, if you don't understand, I enjoy.
I love that shit.
Speaker 2: That's usually what people say about the movies that are
actually so bad. That people said that about Cats, Oh boy,
were they wrong, very wrong. There there's the one quote
that's like, this movie somehow may just to look incredibly
cheap and incredibly expensive at the same time.
Speaker 1: I gotta see that for myself and on the big screen.
Uh So Jan wants us to talk about it in
something next week. Maybe that could be like a BCR review.
Speaker 2: Come on down to Youngstown. I want to see it
with you. But I don't want to drive to Cleveland again,
so come on over here.
Speaker 1: That would be fair, That seems fair. I oh, I could.
I could steak the game sitting in your house while
I'm there, So okay, yeah, do.
Speaker 2: That and then do it. You know what it's like.
You need to do that so that I can destroy
it because I can tell that you don't have any
of you.
Speaker 1: Right, that is what's happening. I need you to do
it for me.
Speaker 2: It's like that scene in the Dark Night with the
guys on the boats and the prisoner like tows the card,
give me the button, nepples it up.
Speaker 1: I'll do exactly you're too afraid. That literally exactly what
I was thinking too. Yeah, so okay that sounds good
to me. We'll make that happen.
Speaker 2: Do it for you.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah. I wanted like kind of a relaxing weekid,
but now I'm like filling it up with stuff for
taking family photos on Saturday, which is fine. That'll be
good too.
Speaker 2: I have a god, there's all I feel like. Every
other weekend there's a nefuority's birthday party, which is fine.
It's they're fun. It's easy for me. But I got
one of those.
Speaker 1: They're not drinking it.
Speaker 2: They will have beer. Yes, the kids can't drink at
as far as I know. Dan would be like, why
could good drink beer? They should be able to drink
beer and watch Jaws. I don't understand.
Speaker 1: I think you would be like, wow, no, I get that.
But then he would be like, but when they're teenagers
and then uh yeah. Benjamin Lee from the Guardian says Blanchet,
outfitted in sparkly gear and a swoop of bright red hair,
deserves credit for not shrinking from a task so far
beneath her Again, I gotta see that.
Speaker 2: I mean, look that casting was wild back in the day,
and like, Kate Blanchett, is that like twenty year old
looking like Firecracker gun Care. I'm like, well, yeah, a
little other or something.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah. Jamie Lee Curtis is also in there. Yeah.
Kevin Marr from The Times in the UK says this
film instead is a lazy bricklage. I don't know what
that means. Bricklage cobbled together by so called creatives who
appear not to care and by some who should clearly
know better. Yeah, bricklage, so it's like a shitty collage.
I don't know.
Speaker 2: Pittsford, like.
Speaker 1: Nick Schager of The Daily Be says so drearily routine
and slapdash that even in AI would deem it to plagiaristic.
People having a lot of fun on this one.
Speaker 3: This definitely the next one, though at least one one
is my favorite one. That's why I put it on
in the dock.
Speaker 1: David Fear from Rolling Stone says it's not a movie
for critics, as the saying, nor is it suitable for
consumption by most gamers, film lovers, or ninety nine percent
of carbon based life forms. It's a movie for ready.
Pittsford second did yeah, he's based on sulfur actually, so.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah.
Speaker 1: Listen, video game movies usually have been really bad. This
one also bad. Now, I'm just I'm not surprised, but
it did feel like a little bit like, oh, we
figured this out, they cracked the nut. They know what
it takes to make a good video game movie. They'll
they'll just do that from now on. And I think
we did not account for the randy picture factor.
Speaker 2: Chris Pratt and Chatter says, ha ha ha ha ha
these idiots thinks think it's so easy. Chris Pratt taking
a lap, right now, that's fair, that's fair, Chris Phratt. Yeah,
I mean, but I don't know, Jeff, there's always something
weird about this one, because again, border I mean border lands.
When I think about borderlands, I think of border lands too,
which is so like two thousand and eight, right, And
how are we making that stuff work today? And the
best they can do is look at something just slightly
older than that, Guardians of the Galaxy, and try to
ape that stuff. I mean, that's the thing with trendy things, right,
we see how much that style is already out. Concord
got blasted. We're kind of having a whiff of that.
The fact that guards the Galaxy was ever able to
do that was a bit of magic in the bottle
and they got a few movies out of it. And
even then that is done.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, they they will have to do something different
if they try to do anything with those characters. Again,
I mean, for one part, the directors wouldn't be there anymore.
But yeah, like the people aren't in the mood for
that anymore. Well, it is officially played out, so and
this is like played out, and also not even a
good implementation of this idea, so like a really bad
suicide squad which was already very bad. I don't know
whatever I like. Honestly, this movie was just like that
the Uncharted movie, which was people like, I don't know,
I guess it's okay.
Speaker 2: That's like the big barometer for like it's fine, right,
That's where that's where it's fine is on the the
movie bad to good skill video game adaptation thing.
Speaker 1: Right, And if it was that, I wouldn't have any
interest in it whatsoever. I've never seen the Uncharted movie.
I honestly think there's a very strong chance I'm gonna
go through my entire life without without ever seeing the
Uncharted movie. This one I will show up for. But
this one hundred and forty five million dollar budgeted movie
that also seems to have a pretty decent marketing budget
based on commercials, I'm seeing it's gonna lose a lot
of money, right.
Speaker 2: It's probably going to I thought I was gonna lose
a ton of money before, and now it's like, because like,
you know, I don't know how much you pay attention
to critics, but I think general audiences do pay attention
to Rotten to make.
Speaker 1: It because it's so expensive, right, you got like, yeah,
am I gonna go spend eighty dollars to take three
or four people to the movie theater and that's before
a lot like concessions movie. We're not gonna join it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just see that number and maybe sometimes oh
fifty percent whatever, I want to see it, But like
a six percent, they showed that shit everywhere. Man, they'll
show it on your ticket apps when you're buying the tickets. Yeah,
it's a hard thing to talk your friends into seeing
a six percent of Rotten Tomatoes movie with you.
Speaker 1: Yep, it's tough. And people don't even try. They just
give it. They're like, whatever, we'll just go see something else.
Speaker 2: Now, say we'll see Twisters again.
Speaker 1: I guess we'll go see Twisters again. Uh, maybe the
Garfield movies in the Dollar theater. Now we'll go do that.
Chris Pratt. Yeah, shout us to Chris Pratt. Of course.
Speaker 2: So you think this is a big setback for video
game movies or you think this is just kind of
like a misstep.
Speaker 1: I think that the people that are executives in Hollywood
will forget about this in a week, and they will
just remember the big successes recently from the video game
movies and they will just be like, the problem wasn't
the IP, the problem was the execution. And maybe they'll
look a little bit closer and they'll be like, boy,
that guy that owns that video game studio was pretty involved.
Look at him on the set in this video for
me three of him just bothering Kevin Hart. Maybe we
won't let them do that. Maybe we won't let the
video game riff raff into our movie studios anymore.
Speaker 2: You know, let's say some Mia Moto or like Kojima,
they might get to have a say. Otherwise it's like
Ken Levine should not be involved in the BioShock movie.
Speaker 1: You just write it exactly. Definitely, not in the way
that it seemed like Gearbox had on the ground people
all the time. That just does not seem to be
the thing that was helping there. So I think it'll
be a slight sort of reset for video game movies,
but it's not going to cost some long term, long
term damage. Hollywood very hungry for IP. Video games still
have a lot of really recognizable IP. I don't know
if we need like to go very deep onto these
properties the way that leads you to a border Lands
you probably do just stick to the big ones going forward.
Maybe it hurts those kinds of adaptations, but Hollywood's still
going to be interested in this thing, so we'll keep
getting them.
Speaker 2: Do you think it hurts the Borderlands brand at all?
Which you know the Take two has taken in pretty recently,
obviously working on a Borderlands four, even though Stought announced
they just released a patch for Borderlands three today, I saw.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I know those Resident
Evil movies have a lot of fans, and uh, while
they look really cheesy to me, I don't think I've
seen many of them. Really, They're just easy enough to
ignore if you aren't interested, and they like they had
they had like campy people can't people who like the
campiness of it, who actually do get excited about recival
because those movies. Obviously this is not gonna be one
like one of those cases, but I think it'll be
easy enough for anyone to ignore. People are just not
gonna go see this movie. Honestly, That's what's gonna happen.
Any If anyone's thinking about Borderlands this week and they're
like have positive feelings, They're probably just gonna go back
and be like, you know what, did I ever play
Tiny Tinos Wonderland? Maybe I should just go play that.
Oh r, They'll do something like that instead.
Speaker 2: Gosh, Now it's sotually for a loop because like I
sometimes forget that there's like eight Resident Evil movies. I
haven't seen most of them. But ites, you're right, you
just kind of cold partialize that in a completely different space,
right exactly, And it's.
Speaker 1: Very easy to do that, I think for most people.
Speaker 3: Like their new movies they.
Speaker 1: Started up again. Yep, like even like something that has
good stuff, like the Castlevania TV show, like when the
new Castlevania game comes out, unless it's explicitly like here
this is tied in with the anime, I'm not going
to think about the anime ever.
Speaker 2: All Right.
Speaker 1: A quick update from last week. Obviously, the big story
last week was the layoffs at Bungee and everything that
was going to be happening with the future of that studio.
Sony has basically come out and confirmed how the restruction
is going to work, and it's in line with everything
we said on the show last week. So a lot
of that stuff now officially confirmed by Sony President Hiroki Totok,
who says who clarified plants for Bunchie restructuring. The restructure
aims to optimize costs in the portfolio, with Bunchie's back
office functions integrating with SIE Studios. So yes, the studios
moving underneath Sony Interactive Entertainment Bunchies. Headcount and resources will
focus on Destiny To and Marathon. Also, like we said,
while other title developments will be moved to PlayStation studios.
That is that mobile game that was in the works
got moved into like it's a new studio that was
under Bunchie. Now that studios under PlayStation Studios, Bungee's organizational
structure will be optimized. You know what. That just just
means they're going to like look harder at how these
things are made in the first place. And let's see.
The briefing follows Bunge's recent layoffs and restructuring, affecting over
two hundred employees, including seventeen percent of its workforce. And
of course that is in addition to the layoffs that
happened in October of last year. Yeah, I don't know
any different, any new feelings on Bungee since we had
that long conversation last week, obviously, like the dust has
mostly settled, it's still a lot of people without jobs.
It's still really rough out there. But I don't know,
it marches on, right the studios can have to march
on and keep making destiny too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's I'm kind of curious, like what
is the vibe to like today in there? You know,
you've had a very bad week. It seems like everybody's
still pretty mad at you know, the leadership at the top,
Like how are they all feeling? Is they're kind of
a feeling of like all right, well we got to persevere,
let's get back into it. Or its kind of like
the Walking Dead in there right now, where nobody has
their heart into it at the moment.
Speaker 1: Yep, exactly. I think that we will get a few
months down the road here, and I think if they
have a promising update about Marathon, it'll give people the
permission to maybe get excited about a Bungee game again.
That's gonna you know, that's a big if, just like
all the other ifs with the studio. But internally I imagine
that it's going to be like man we were already
working on so much stuff. We had so many ideas.
Now we have to obviously pair those down. But even
the ideas we have remaining for figuring out what Destiny
To is going to be and feel like and look like,
and then what Marathon is, we really do have fewer
people to be able to execute that, so that those
games are probably gonna have to be slimmer than what
they originally intended them to be, and that's that's got
to be rough. Of course, the morale is already in
the gutter. There's no reason to expec that to turn around.
WB may sell studios and it may license IP to
external studios. These are two separate stories that happened this week.
The one is the return of the rumored sell off
of Warner Brothers eleven studios. They have a lot of
teams over there, obviously, like Avalanche and rock Steady, a
bunch more that make a lot of games, and Warner
Brothers once again like, we don't like this business necessarily,
or we really like having money now to pay our
debt more than we like being in this business, so
maybe we might try to sell these things off again.
Of course, this is a rumor but it always seemed
like that original rumor, which was years ago now that
said the same exact thing was true. That definitely was
the case, and there was no reason to believe that
they were like, well, now we want to keep these things.
It was always that they couldn't find someone to really
come in and buy these studios and feel good about it.
The issue then as it is now, like everyone I
think pretty much who's listening to this probably understands they
wouldn't be getting the IPS for most of those games
when you buy one of these studios, if you're an Xbox,
you would buy rock Steady, but you're not getting Batman.
You would buy you would buy Avalanche, but you wouldn't
get Hogwarts, Legacy Slash, Harry Potter. Like WB is obviously
keeping those things so they can keep making movies. The
IP is what has value, so it'd be a big
expensive purchase and then a lot of payroll costs, and
but you know that's WB does not want to pay
that payroll anymore, so that they might be looking for
ways to really make it a sweetheart deal this time.
But unless like anything short of that feels like it's
unlikely that this would happen, right, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Mean it seems like the time for this to happen
was when all these equitions were happening, right, And that's
kind of seems like the opposite where we are now
everyone's doing everyone wants to get rid of their studios,
right yep. So right, it's you're not going to get
a lot of money for it at the moment, and
you know it'd be rough to do it too at
a down period anyways, right, because interest in a lot
of these people, you know, instead of the people who
made Batman Arkham Asylum in an Arkham City, that's now
the studio that made Suicide Squad at the moment, right,
So it's hard to get the price that you probably
went for that. So I don't know, I just I'm
not sure what the stretchy could possibly be over there,
because you have these studios that have been kind of
damaged by poor decisions lately. So yeah, reaching out to
get other people to maybe working in your game, sure,
but I don't think that's some golden bullet that's going
to solve all of your problems.
Speaker 1: Yep. And then the other side of the story is
David Zasloff in an earnings report, told investors that they
would began looking at licensing some of their IP that
they don't already have assigned to one of their eleven studios,
or maybe that is a sign, but they want to
like to do even more with those IP to external developers,
which I guess is something they haven't done a lot of,
which I didn't really even think about actively previously. That oh,
I just figured they did both and now that I'm
looking at so, oh, they didn't do a lot of that.
Maybe they did a little, but for the most part,
like talking about, hey, no, we want to do a
lot more of taking these ips, working with external studios,
letting them get a chance to make stuff with our
stuff that is a little bit more dormant, And that
feels like such a no du that should have happened
years ago sort of thing like, even if you do
have a lot of internal studios, no one across the
industry relies entirely on their internal studios to work on
their IP. Nintendo doesn't. Nintendo doesn't exactly, so it's weird
that Warner Brothers does. It feels like, well, that's just
the kind of another weird air that you've been making
now apparently this is just the way they've been doing
things for years, so they just kind of kept doing
it when David's azof took over and now they're looking
to change it. That is, you know, it's nice to
want things with that sort of thing, right, but it's
a sure any deal you make now, it doesn't pay
off for six years, seven years, because we're talking about
the very beginning of that process, not even like oh,
development has started.
Speaker 2: It's like, well, no, you got to do the pitching
process and the vetting process.
Speaker 1: That feels like okay, but by then we could be
two more or David Zaslov's away from the CEO we
have today, Like honestly, he could get replaced, and then
his replacement could get replaced.
Speaker 2: It takes so long for us to get that Aquaman
game or whatever. But you know, it's a problem because
like when do you want a Superman game? Will that
movie comes out next year? Right? That's when you won
a Superman game, and they're sure is not going to
be one for a very long time.
Speaker 1: Which always reminds me of a you know, and bless
his heart, he doesn't know, but James gunn Sam when
he took over like the DC movie, like we are
gonna have games to go along with all these things
and it's all gonna be one universe. And I was like, oh, honey, no,
you no, you don't even know. You don't even know,
Like we get you're making movies. You're busy and you're
good at that, and it probably be like it can't
be as complicated as making a movie, and it's just,
oh no, this was never going to be something that
could possibly happen, And now it feels like even less
likely when they're just now talking about working with external studios. Yeah,
I don't know, we'll see. I think I think WP's
got plenty of IP that I would be interested and
seeing them do some fun stuff with. But it also
I feel like Disney's only just gotten their footing with
working with external studios in the last last couple of years.
To spin up takes a while to like work through
that process of like what do you want to work with?
What kind of games do you want to be making,
how do you who pays for them? Like that? All
that stuff seems like a learning process that WB is
gonna have to do.
Speaker 2: What BRO doesn't have the depth of Disney, like they
have some very high profile things, right, you have DC,
you have Harry Potter.
Speaker 1: It's not a ton beyond that.
Speaker 2: I mean you could do a lot there, I suppose, right, Uh,
obviously there's a big appetite for Harry Potter still, but Drake, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
they definitely need not drink and I'm sorry, I'm busy.
Speaker 1: H w B has must have had a bunch of
like mobile games based on their ship, right, like, and
that's sure.
Speaker 2: I would imagine it.
Speaker 1: Maybe they have mobile studios doing that as well. When
I was eleven studios, I don't.
Speaker 2: Speak speaking of mobile games. You see that like one
random Star Trek mobile game just like got Galaxy Quest content.
Speaker 1: I did see that, saw it in a story on
gamespeed dot com.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of need to download that game now.
I'm like, whoa, I do Quest that much that I
would actually probably check that out. So and it's so like,
I think this is the first time Galaxy Quest of
that had just been in an actual Star Trek thing.
I'm like, that's kind of neat, okays.
Speaker 1: It also does make it like that theory of like
when every odd Star Trek movie was bad and every
even Star Trek movie was con until that didn't happen.
But in between, Galaxy Quest came out, and it's like, oh, well,
that was the good one, and that's why there was
two bad Star Trek movies in a row, because the
good one was Galaxy Quest and that threw off the
whole numbering scheme. So right, so they're if they're working together, maybe.
Speaker 2: It's supposed to be, although it's kind of yeah, yeah, no,
you're right. I think generally of dro Opening, there's some
of those odd movies. I defend I'm kind of a
Final Frontier defender even right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've not watched Funnel Frontier enough to like, I
just know the farting sequence and that's that seemed really embarrassing.
Speaker 2: It's dumb, but it's sure. There's a lot of things
that are embarrassing. But it's very cheap looking, like that
section where they use the jet pack boots to go
up like some turbo lift shock. It's clearly just on
like a little elevator platform. They don't even have like
wind blasting on them to try and sell it. It's
a it's kind of a beautiful thing. I hope, I
hope Jen hasn't forgotten that he promised me he's going
to become a trecky.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean you're gonna be able to corner him
in foreign hunt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll just make him watch The Measure of a
Man with me.
Speaker 1: There you go, Okay, yeah, I I really what's the
even obviously the return of.
Speaker 2: Three three? Yeah? Oh yeah yeah, search respote good search.
You know. It's a little messy at points for for sure.
Yea even like the next gen ones. I just like
next Gen a lot, so I like seeing these assholes data.
Then I get said, of course, all right, and then
half Life three might be real.
Speaker 1: Maybe there was a code name people found, and then
some more data was found that suggests it's not a
VR game, but it is a full fledged video game
that could be the follow up to a lot of
stuff that's happened in the Half Life universe. And if
it's not half Life three, it definitely seems like the
next big Half Life thing at the very least. I
know you are someone who believes Molder. Why do you believe?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, I believe there's going to be
a Halfway three eventually, just you know, in the grant
span of the universe, and.
Speaker 1: That they're working on something right now? Now? Are those
two the same things? I believe.
Speaker 2: I believe they're working on something right now. Now here's
the thing, and I honestly believe it's half something called
half Lay three. Sure, but there have been Half Life
three is in development before that have not come out right,
And I kind of hope you get past I hoped.
I hope that they are at least past the whole
we have to have like the next transformative thing in
this game. I think Valve gets a little cut up
in the like, hey, we're not the industry isn't really
in that era anymore in a lot of ways. Like
you can do some inventive things, for sure, Uh, it's
very hard to kind of like invent a new genre
or a new mechanic like they did with the physics stuff,
because so much has been done or has happened, or
you know, technology has stagnated. I'm like, man, can't we
just make a really good Half Life game and you're
gonna have some interesting ideas, You'll think of something, but
you know, I don't know if you're gonna come up
with another portal gun, right. Stuff like that is hard
to come by, you know. I think they're probably I
wonder how what Valve was thinking about VR now because
they went in very big with that. We had Half
Life Alex and it was it's definitely probably the best
VR game, right.
Speaker 1: They were the real like fuel in the fire of
VR when you when I mean, yeah, suur Oculus and
Facebook and all that stuff, but like Steam VR figuring
out a lot of that technology and then making it
so it's like just works when you plug in anything
on your computer like that was all Valve. So yeah,
they were big invested.
Speaker 2: Into it, right, But I have to imagine I'm sure
they still care, but I don't. I can't imagine.
Speaker 1: They're sell according to like if you look at the
top sellers on Steam, and of course that's by dollar sales,
so they don't have to sell as many headsets, but
they're selling headsets to be at the top of the
charts with that thing all the time.
Speaker 2: Well, are they invested enough to make another Half Life
out right? To make something of that?
Speaker 1: Sad Again, they're.
Speaker 2: Not gonna do it. No, they did it. The fact
that they did it once is incredible. We still don't
really have very many VR games that are of that scale, right,
that's kind of what makes it incredible still. So yeah, look,
you know they have their new first person mob, but
saying that can be the money maker or whatever, So
Halfway three doesn't have to be that. It can be
the prestige thing. It can kind of be the wish fulfillment.
I'll tell you what will drive me crazy if we
get if it's a Shenmu three thing where we finally
get this game and then it ends on a cliffhanger again,
like no, you assholes, look, this is a you're not
getting another chance just and not.
Speaker 1: Just three and portal three and then they forget how
to count to four after that for twenty five years.
That sounds about right. Yeah, I think I'm feeling pretty
good about this one. There's no guarantee it'll come out,
there's no guarantee that it'll happen, but I think this
one seems to be the one that might have the
momentum to actually manifest into something at this point.
Speaker 2: But I you know, even though like you think a
halfa three does it need to be at like some
show like Game Awards, I hope it is just for
the reactions, man, because like, yeah, it's the one thing anymore.
It's like the one thing these days that see it,
people will just absolutely lose their minds. Even people don't
even really care. We'll just be like, oh my god,
and that is finally happening.
Speaker 1: It's that it's Mother Mother three.
Speaker 2: Title's got Mother three. They can always they can always
do that, which way easier for them to do that?
Speaker 1: Huh? I don't know. I guess if they announced a
Mother four, people would be like, wait, why why is
that guy out there screaming so much? Well, okay, I
guess that got to me. It gets me excited.
Speaker 2: Okay, But I guess I just want to see Mother
three is because like they're gonna call it Earthbound two,
Because you think they would, we'd have to stop calling
it Mother three.
Speaker 1: That'd be wild. Yeah, I think at this point, wouldn't
they just call it Mother three? I want them to
call it earthbound something. I don't know if I want
them to call it earthbound two something about that. Maybe
they already went.
Speaker 2: Through the trouble of renaming Mother earth Bound zero.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I forgot about that. Okay, yep, all right,
they would call it Earthbound two. Yep.
Speaker 2: I think it sounds so I'll be fine, It'll be great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would get used to it like anything else.
All right, that's the big topics I have here. We
have plenty of super chats to get to. So so
what we're gonna do now is we're gonna take a
quick break. We'll come right back and get to those.
All right, we are back. We're getting right back into
it with the super chats. Like I said, plenty of those.
Mike Minatti, go ahead and read them for me.
Speaker 2: Andy g says love the show, Thank you.
Speaker 1: Andy.
Speaker 2: I don't want the PS five Pro upgrade, but sixty
FPS on console is my preference. Well, we see many
sixty fps updates for new and old games after the
PLACES five Pro releases GTA six for sixty fps on
the pro question.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't get your hopes up too much.
Let's wait and see, cause I think on paper, when
we look at what the rumors are about the PS
five Pro, I would assume that something like a GTA
six would come out and still not be able to
really do sixty frames per second because we're talking about
a GPU and not a CPU upgrade for the most part,
and GTA six seems like one that could easily be
CPU bound now we don't know. There's there's plenty of
ways for them to introduce new technology. Their AI upscaling
could account for that somehow. Probably not for the physics.
There's a lot of but there's a lot of reasons
to assume it's more complicated than more power means sixty
frames per second. Again, that's said, why are we doing
all this if we're not going to get at least
quite a few more sixty frames per second games. So
I would assume that you if you are hoping that
you'll be able to get a lot of those games
you played at thirty frames per second recently up to sixty,
they will figure out some way to make that happen,
or at least get close. I would be happy of everything,
like had a gear forty five frames per second mode
with a variable refresher the FVRR. Yeah, that would be
great for me.
Speaker 3: Maybe we get the frame generation that that d I.
Speaker 1: Think that that does seem to be the Is it
frame generation or no? They were talking about their version
of d LSS which could have frame generation, and it
absolutely could. I think Microsoft will probably have a stealth
update like for something like that in the next couple
of years for Xbox.
Speaker 2: Even so as somebody who was once naively hoping this
would be the just everything sixty fps generation, clearly that happened,
the idea that would buy places by pro and that
still won't be the case of a little maddening Now I've
said that G six is maybe one of the few
things where even though I'm not really expecting sixty fps,
I imagine that's going to be such a big, beefy
game and one and a.
Speaker 1: Game that they are almost certainly building with ten to
fifteen years in mind. So they're not going to hold
it back that much for these consoles because they're like, what,
at the end of the day, that's going to be
ten to twenty percent of the of its life and
the rest of that stuff will be on PC and
the next gen consoles after that. So yeah, they're not
gonna hold things back too much for this generation.
Speaker 2: Simon st says the only thing that gave my life
any hope was the highly anticipated Borderlands movie. Rady Pittsford
can't make a video a good video game movie? Who can?
Speaker 1: And not one? O? Yep, it's Glover, Yep, it's Stover.
Speaker 2: Ryan Allen says, Doom plus Doom two Game of the
Year for t y o l twenty twenty four. This
rips what's t y o o.
Speaker 1: L u the thousand year or.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Hey, wait chat you know what's t
y o oh means thinking? But yeah, you see this.
They announced like a like a new kind of versus
vay saying it. But there's some there's like a new
package of the original uh and second Doom with some
the year Day of Life stuff, the Year of Our Lord,
thank you.
Speaker 1: For twenty twenty four. Okay, no, so okay. So this
is repat like in the style of like a a
night diving.
Speaker 2: And night Diving. It is at least involved, and there's
like a new campaign with people from night Dive and
other places we're doing. It's just like cool, just a
new package of Doom and do one looking spiffier than ever.
Speaker 1: That sounds very cool, big.
Speaker 2: Fresh story services. It's odd that Yakuza Wars is not
called like a Dragon. I think people need to brace
for a disappointing possibility. This is some kind of PvP thing.
Now that was just a filing or something. It's not
like that's the official name of whatever this is going
to be.
Speaker 1: Right right, Yeah, it'd be a subtitle, right, and that
could just be them Like there could be like a
Dragon Wars also getting registered or something like that. Yeah,
and this could be a subtitle. We don't know exactly
what's happening with that people, people should brace themselves. Yeah, yeah,
or it could be like a mobile thing too, who knows,
could be anything, so we'll see, Like if.
Speaker 2: There was just starting to think if we going limited
was a mistake using it to see Borderlands, even though
I know it'll be bet anyway.
Speaker 1: Play Nine Souls, yeah, I got it on the but
Mike makes me want to play beyond Good and Evil,
so that's a good way it was playing it. Yeah,
I'm I would love to be in a world where
I could have one of those movie subscription services, be
an AMC A lister, But I'm no a lister, so
I got got to stay home with the kids instead.
Uh cannot justify that. But if I was in that situation,
and I did find myself being like, well, if I
don't use it to go see a movie this weekend,
it's kind of wasting money. So I guess I'll go
see border Lands. Actually, I'm like, I would love that
I would love that. Yeah, that'd be great. Be a
big fan of that.
Speaker 2: Next one is from el Grugg, who says, no, Jeff,
you're supposed to fake your hand injury before your Blake
Club band and now Mike and Dan are about to
get Asa Kaide to Europe before my stern. Good job
beating Dai Katana.
Speaker 1: Thank you. It was. It was not fun, but it
was a good time. I'm glad it's over, though. That
was That's too much for any one Blake Club game,
although I will say that the game did its part.
It's a first person shooter, and I didn't doing his
favors by doing my intensity thing. But it is. Uh,
those games could be kind of wobbly for some people.
But it had so much endless bullshit, and it was
always so fresh and different in its bullshit every time
every episode in a way that right to hell never
could that. I kind of appreciate Daikatana in some ways.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, we're doing a series where we're playing
bad video games. Dikatana had to be played at some point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's what we're real like, that's
what we're me and Dan we're talking about. It's like
we're talking about some of these games. It's like, we
got to just accept that we're going to be playing
these games at some point, so maybe we should be
playing them now or very soon and things like that.
Speaker 3: Do you know what the patch of the f the
fan patch does and are you willing to try it out?
Speaker 1: I have been thinking about trying it out, but I
don't know. That's probably not gonna happen when I really
think about it. Yeah, I mean it just improves a
bunch of stuff. I guess I don't know the specifics
too well.
Speaker 2: Caitlin owens murl with a first super ch I hear.
Thank you so much, Kaitlin says, Mike and I are
very different people, but we have so many of the
same shirts. Thank you guys for making my Thursdays fun.
Thank you, Kaylin. I'm curious now we're so different? There
must be Uh.
Speaker 1: I guess we're not so different, you and I.
Speaker 2: I guess we're not so different you and I after all. Yeah,
Stinky Uh says have discord Nitro and joined the Patreo
and thank you, Stinky means I spam my friend group
with the best mic and Jeff soundboard clips. Yeah, Tuesday
and Thursday Night's something before to thanks incredible Burrito with
a very generous supertitt here, Hello dogs, Jeff big congrats
and completing Diakatana. Here's my hot take. If you adjust
a gamma and had more available says, that would uh,
that would probably make the game actually enjoyable. That and
it's metal slash electronic music kind of rules. I I
appreciate the supertit. I think you're still smoking something no way, Yeah, listen.
Speaker 1: I that the the intensity slider made the game look
way uglier than it is. Whatever. That is not what
made that game a complete horseshit show for me, right,
not even close.
Speaker 2: I mean, AI is definitely probably number one, but there's
a lot of other problems.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it's it, Yeah, but unloved it saves would
have made it more tolerable for sure.
Speaker 2: Ep Idiot bocks with their twentieth super Cha I think
you so much, idiot. That's funny thing, say director Yui
Bull that serves a whole mountain dedicated to his work alone.
Talking about bad VideA gay movies, shout out to Meatloaf
and Blood right, I have seen most of these, all
of them to a point, so I'll be able to
speak to these pretty well. Again, We'll probably only put
one of them on there. And I have an idea
of what is the AEE Bowl video game movie, but
we will definitely talk about it when we get there.
Michael Jameson's Borderlands looks better than a Morbius.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, maybe another feature this weekend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of bad movies I haven't missed,
like Morebius almost I'm not as interested in as say,
Madam Webb. I think I rather watch Madam Webb than
More Biases.
Speaker 1: I probably would watch that first two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Stinky is back. I'm so glad that. I just
love the Sticky says, pull the string on your co
host back.
Speaker 1: What is said? It's like the easiest thing in the world.
Mike Manati, Mike Mike Manatti or just or just Hi,
it's me, Mike Bnatti, Mike Benatti. I think jeffs would
say they are going to come for Zelda or I
love to off the Crystal.
Speaker 2: That's a yah. There's all sorts of ones here, and
I don't know personally, I think I would be the
thank you so much. Stinky Baba is me says I
was watching Mike's Dark Soul's playthrough. I would swear when
Mike says bullshit, he drops the L so it sounds
like boo shit. Maybe it's an ohio thing, or maybe
I'm just crazy, Okay, I would saying booshit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you kind of seel like that sometimes bullshit. He
just like he swallows the L a little bit.
Speaker 2: I swallowed the L.
Speaker 1: Actually.
Speaker 2: You know what, oh god, that I did a back
when I was like in second grade. They took some
kids to like speech class. They had a weird like
trailer where he went to to work on. It is
for kids who had trouble cific syllables, and I was
there for my l's at one point. I think I had.
I think I, as a child had a problem enunciating
my l's. So you are not crazy. That is just
a me thing. I don't enunciate my l's enough and
it comes out like booshit, booshit.
Speaker 1: Do you ever think about it's like you put your
mouth in the same exact position to say L and R.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I do, because they told me that. They
explained in great detail how I need to pronounce L.
I remember that. Actually, uh wild times next one here, Oh,
bye way, thank you for watching The Dark Souls play through.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Was it a blasts Congress to Jeff beating that
Katon a great season, can't wait for the next?
Speaker 1: Yeah you did it? Yeah almost quit.
Speaker 2: There was that one episode where you were still at
one level?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Was that the crematorium or something after.
Speaker 2: Invatory was rough? But it was was that for the
act three? Remember you were like that spiral staircase that
came out of the ground. You were stuck in that
for almost a whole episode one time?
Speaker 1: Yeah that's right. God damn, Yeah, you know I I
was gonna see it through. But this is definitely the
one that that challenged me the most and made me
like question some thing so the most. It's a really
really bad video game, but God, thinking about how far
I am away from it being my turn again is
real good. And thinking about what I just Everyone'm gonna
be so excited watching Mike play his game. It sounds
like I have told a couple of people and some
people like you're letting them off easy, and I'm like,
people say that every time and it's never been true.
So and honestly, at this point, I feel like I
trust us more than anybody on this topic now.
Speaker 2: So people are saying that about Dai Katata, which it's
like the roughest go anyone has had yet.
Speaker 1: So I don't know four you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Eden says, if someone buys another Real Studios, do
they get Mortal Kombat?
Speaker 1: I would assume in that case they would get Mortal
Kombat because what it I mean, Yeah, they made Mortal
Kombat movies. But come on, what the fuck are we
talking about here? Right?
Speaker 2: It's one thing like yeah, with rock Steady, I can
also see like, well, we don't have to have them
make a Batman game something else another REALM Studios, Like
what are you doing? Like the other series they do
is DC. What you're not getting so you're not making Injustice? No,
you're you're getting those so you get Mortal Kombat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean listen, I I think there's a world
in which they like sell rock Steady and then they
sell you know, twelve years worth of rights of making
Batman games to that studio in that deal, and that
would take it into the public domain. So yeah, that
could happen. Like there's ways to make this deal make sense,
but there's not as much money out there capital's a
little bit harder to come by. The economic conditions are
way more uncertain. They're not like as dire as everyone
was feeling on Monday, but they're definitely uncertain. So the
idea that they're gonna be able to find a buyer
that was better than what they could have got a
few years ago when Microsoft actually was interested in twenty
twenty one through twenty twenty three seems very unlikely.
Speaker 2: The Roxie says, there are actually a lot of positive
reviews for the Borderlands movie. They're on my USB thumb drive. Wait,
I think I left it at medieval times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where where you USB thumb drives go. That
makes sense.
Speaker 2: Input video here says halfway two Episode three. Remember when
episode A game was supposed to fix everything? Yeah, and
that's god. I remember that one writer who like left
Valve at one point like just kind of like released
what was the plot synopsis for episode three is supposed
to be because it's supposed to take place on that ship.
You could even like see the docking port for that
ship in Portal two, Like it was like let's work, well,
let's go full Steve ahead, and uh, I don't know,
I don't know why that that game just couldn't have
come out then. And then at that point it's like, hey,
if we want to do a halfway three on our
own terms, that's fine. There isn't this kind of weird
cloud hanging over the whole thing. It did feel like
they just completely got distracted with like steam machines and
then VR and then like all these other things. It's like, hey, look,
that's all great, Please finish what you started at least.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I mean, how much of a clean break
do you think this halflay three will be? I mean,
do you think that they'll reference the stuff that happened
in episode two? Well, I mean they'll probably reference stuff
that happened to be into Alex, right, that's what they're
doing now.
Speaker 2: So like you know, it's spoilers so for a lot
of people, but like basically Alex kind of it's like
a different setup for what's going to happen in the
next half life, whatever it is, than what the end
of you know, the end of episode two was one
specific thing and Alex kind of reac textualizes that, but
it's still very much like a whole like and basically
the end it's like now let's go moment right like
it is. So the next thing is Half Life three,
which you know, and again a lot people we haven't
played out, so maybe that's why some people were still
real like no, that's never gonna happen. And I'm like,
I mean, look, I to get it because episode two
also had that moment and we still didn't really get it.
But they clearly there's at least an intention there, right yep.
Next one here is from Dawn Can ninety four, who says,
apparently Sony Santa Monica is working on a new IP
based on a job listing. Very exciting, finally something other
than God of War from that talented studio.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, do they do the thing like that?
People always joke about it, say, well they were working
on a well, I mean, I guess it wasn't it
rumored that what's his name the director of God of
War twenty eighteen was going to be doing Corey Barlerrock
is going to be doing a sci fi game next?
Or was that someone else that I'm thinking of? I mean,
he didn't do God of War two, so he's doing
something else, right, sure? But I mean basically I'm getting
at It's like do they Well, they just did a
you know, mythological fantasy game, or they could do a
sci fi game now the one of the two video
game genres.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do always. I mean that's that's kind of
my thing with Starfill back in the day. Members like
everyone's like it's good they're doing something new, Like their
new thing is sci fi.
Speaker 1: Wow, whatever this is studio has kind of had. It's
a made studio. They could do what they want. I'll
kind of pay attention to it when when it gets announced,
but until we see something, I'm like, all right, fair enough.
Speaker 2: Edgar Marino says, you guys, hear about the way Esports
World Cup champion gets to choose three people to add
their destroyed emblem to the trophy.
Speaker 1: No, no, this is a Esports World Cup, is this? Yeah?
Speaker 3: No? This is? Yeah for this a different game. I
think it's Balerian. I think Street Fighters also there. And
whenever you right, yeah, whenever you lose, they take away
you're like emblem or whatever they give you and they
destroyed and they added to the to the big turfy. Interesting.
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's like the sword Throne from Game of Thrones.
Speaker 2: Okay, sure, yes, exciting, Yeah, oh, Kaitlin's back. I asked
Kaylor for more info and why we're so different. Thank
you so much for the supersculates.
Speaker 1: It's long.
Speaker 2: I'm a thirty five year old woman with cats. Outside that,
I'm a fan of both your streams and Giant Bomb
and video games and life in general. So maybe we're
not so different after all. I do eat fruit regularly, though, Yeah, yeah,
we can. We can never find common ground, then, I guess. Actually, yeah,
well I was.
Speaker 1: I did orders Papa John's on the way home, and
I got a pepperoni pizza and then I just kind
of hit like a like a barbecue chicken one and
it had onion on it, and of course neither Mike
or Dan touched it. So I don't want you think
less of me. I'm like, Mike, listen, everyone does think
less of you for this, and I think you just
who cares at this point, Like that's just the way
it is. People. People just think of the people, let
less people who have baby mouth. It's fine, we all
have that thing.
Speaker 2: Look, And I don't want to criticize it because you
did buy me pizza, but you really just like didn't
even ask their onions. Okay, come on.
Speaker 1: And I was ordering while driving. I was just trying
to do it quick. Yeah I should say you had
you do it, but ily, I'll just click on this
thing barbecue chicken. That sounds like two words that both
Mike and Dan like.
Speaker 2: It sounds like bagfoot. Trust me, I've been ordering that
barbecue chicken pizza from Papa John's my entire life. So
to me, i'm common knowledge. It has that you have
to say you don't what. Of course other people don't know.
Speaker 1: You never even because I'm like, I don't. Honestly, I
hate it. Don't even taste the onions, like that's what
mask It was a texture thing. No, And Maddie was like, no,
I could taste the onions like you can really, Okay,
I'll take these off here.
Speaker 2: You like onions. I like the flavor onions, but like
onions as an ingredient like that, like you just bite
into something you're so excited and you get this weird,
soft butt, crunchy texture that makes me want to grow up.
I hate it.
Speaker 3: And everything on your ring You're like, oh my god,
they're so good.
Speaker 1: No, I do not.
Speaker 2: That's just a bad French fry. Chris Pratt and chat
said I want the gold medal and stomping jukes.
Speaker 1: Alright, I thought I'm making you pay for it anymore.
Speaker 2: It's okay, come on, I know you're getting Garfield royalties.
All right.
Speaker 1: That does it for the super chats.
Speaker 2: That's it for now. If everybody, if you want to
send more super chats, we will read them before the
end of the show.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you. All right, thanks for
doing that, Mike. Thank you everybody for sending in those
super chats. It was a lot of fun ones. I
always appreciate that Mike does two. All right, we'll take
another quick break. We'll come back, and then we're gonna
do our our Hall of Fame pick and we'll do
our big Well, first we'll do our big decision of
the week, which is the mount Rushmore of Bad Video
game Movies. Right after this, all right, we are back.
It's time for Game Mess to decide something. And that's
something is the mount Rushmore of Bad video game Movies.
I'm interested in, like what you have like a strategy
on this one, Mike, because it's like, how do you
feel about so bad it's good and that sort of stuff,
or or maybe can't be movies that you've come to enjoy, Like,
what are we thinking here?
Speaker 2: So bad good means that I enjoy watching it, but
doesn't mean it's a good movie.
Speaker 1: Right, I should probably still be up in the Rushmore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are still actually just bad movies. Yeah, right,
changes there, so yeah, yeah, that's that's kind of how
I think of it.
Speaker 1: Okay, very good. Let me get this yere. Okay, well
I get the document up on the video call here
in a second. Why don't you throw out a first
option here?
Speaker 2: We mentioned earlier mister Yulie Bowl right, yes, and made
sir made a lot of these movies kind of like
on some weird German government funding thing. You got a
lot of these kind of like mid some bigger ones, right, uh,
you know, like Alone in the Dark, Blood Rain, Dungeon, Siege, Postal.
Just it was just his thing for a while, and
they're all very bad. Most of them are kind of
in that so bad it's it's kind of like a
fun stupid watch far Cry.
Speaker 1: His far Cry is wild.
Speaker 2: Uh, but his first one, his House of the Dead movie,
is just on a completely different level. I would put
that on the Mount Rushmore of like bad movie. House
of the Dead is wild.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: It is like such a it's a version of It's
can't be Yeah, but in a kind of weird way.
There's something wrong with this movie. It doesn't feel right.
It's like it's like something masquerading as a movie.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: It's like a couple of people you recognize, you like,
I guess this is a real movie, and like they
filmed it on camera and then release the TV so
it's a it's a movie, right. There's an extended like
shootout action sequence where they have a song about the
House of the Dead and has the lyrics House of
the Dead in it, and they have like this weird,
apparently very unsafe, like three sixty camera thing that they
shot the people with and it does freeze right. Oh yeah, it.
Speaker 1: Looks absolutely well.
Speaker 2: Sometimes there's just randomly cutaways to shots from like the
Sega satur report of House of the Dead, like actual
arcade game for no reason. Man, it has my it
has one of my favorite like like checkof's guns ever
were in the very beginning of the voice over the
guy but just like, oh, you know, life's like sometimes
you're bored doing fencing lessons, blah blah blah. It's like,
oh my god, they're like shirt off. At the end
of the movie there's a sword fight. I'm like, yes,
hell yeah, let's fucking cow. It's wild. I haven't seen
it in a bit. I remember when they closed my
Hollywood Video which was like our big movie rental story.
So they were just selling all the things, right, Like
I went there specifically to buy their copy House of Decks.
I just kept renting it all the time. I was like, no,
I rended that, and the other movie I rend it
actually was Double Dragon. I saw a lot of the
bad video game movies, uh that way, but yeah, House
House of the Dead, everybody, it is on a different level.
Speaker 1: What what are the other you've able movies that like immediately?
Because for me, I think of Dungeon Siege.
Speaker 2: Under Seas Wild because it kind of had a budget.
She has like the stars. Yeah, Jehnfrey stays and it's
pretty much almost just as bad in a lot of ways.
And it was clearly like Green Legs. He's like, we're
gonna make our own Lord of the Rings, and I'm
gonna do it for a tenth of the bunch hits, right, Yeah,
And it's just what a weird franchise to make a
movie off of. And you remember Dungeon Siege. You remember
that one can.
Speaker 1: Even remembered at the time, like it was more of
a thing at the time, but barely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the potentially is up there because like, yeah, that
was like that was what the one Ui bul movie
I saw in theaters, Like it came to Youngstown movie theaters,
so that one had like an actual push but far Cry.
Postal is like Postal is kind of like again pathetic
because it opens up like nine eleven jokes and like
there's a there's like a scene where they're like shooting
children and stuff and it's like, aha, we're being so racy,
and it's like okay, yeah, Alone in the Dark was
it two Dark? I remember mostly being kind of boring.
On the more boring.
Speaker 1: Side, it was like god, who who's who stars in
that movie? It's Christian uh something. Yeah. It was like
I'm like, oh, yeah, another one of these ones. It
kind of has an older star and thank you Christian Slater.
And I never actually ended up seeing that one. I
hear was just kind of boring. I was just kind
of really probably a lot of his movies at the
end of the day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, blood right. I think it was a bit more
remember memorable. I suppose, uh. House of the Dead though
the fallout I still remember. For some reason or another.
Speaker 1: I think House of the Dead can be our you've
able representative on this list. It's it's the yeah, absolutely,
I mean increase this. I here a little bit of
all of these things, all right. I For me, I
would go with the one that I had the most
experience with and seeing in the theater and being like,
I can't believe it's this bad, and then having a
good time with how bad it was, but it is atrocious,
and that's Mortal Kombat Annihilation. I think that the big
thing with Annihilation is that it is such a falloff
from Mortal Kombat, which I thought is it's still one
of my favorite video game adaptations because it's fun. It's
just a kung fu movie with a little bit more
going on, a little bit more references to the games, whatever,
good music, and then you're expecting the same thing from
Mortal Kombat Annihilation and it's just a shlockfest with really
bad cgi really bad green screen blue.
Speaker 2: I remember. I think it's like the last movie that
tried to get away with doing like stop motion like
ferry housing figures because like, oh that's be cheaper. It's
like yeah, oh it's too late for this. And also
you like don't have a Harry House. And so it
looks real weird, it looks bad. Yes, just kill off
like the characters that they want to pay anymore for
the sequel.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, Raydon cuts his hair for some reason. He
just looks really weird. It's uh, it's a really really
bad movie. Uh, and just bad in some surprising ways,
which I think is gonna be what a lot of
these things are gonna need to make the cut on
this man.
Speaker 2: And it's just the point because like the first Moll
Combo was actually great, it was fun.
Speaker 1: Right exactly. The fall off is so harsh that that
was really is stark. It was a hit, and it
was like the contrast there between those two is why
I remember Mortal Combat Nihilation being such a bad movie
more than anything else.
Speaker 2: You did you see twenty twenties Monster Hunter?
Speaker 1: I like, I've like seen bits and pieces of it.
I did not ever sit down to watch the whole thing,
of course.
Speaker 2: It's it is so it's the guy who did all
those resident evil movies. Paul ws Anderson, that's right, and
he just has he just has his wife what's her
face doing being the main character. Yeah, And it is
so fucking weird because it's like a bunch of like
modern day military people getting fucking isa Kide into the
world of Monster Hunter and it's like a real small
skill movie about a monsters and not very much happens,
and there's a lot of bad cgi. It is terrible,
and it's like, I don't understand how this guy got
his hands on another Capcom franchise. I don't Monster Hunter
like he did, like he did Resident what I was
doing Monster Hunter. Uh, this movie's existence is so abuthul
likely wild.
Speaker 1: He like had like a shell company go to Capcom
and license it or something so they didn't know it
was his. He was gonna end up directing it, Honestly,
was probably like some other company got it and they're like, well,
we'll just get the guy that did Rest and Evil.
Then it's those getting movies made some money.
Speaker 2: So I had to buy those rights. Way back when
this show was like the death throws of that era,
when it was just like assumed the video game movie
is gonna be bad, right, that's like a bit, like
maybe a little bit even after Sonic One if Forgoing
that came out, but yeah, and you know, no one
even had any hope of it being good because I
remember like the first even image leaked and it was
like people with assault rifles. It's like, what are you
talking about? That's Monster Hunter. But again it was like
so bad at Like you know, I'm somebody who likes
watching bad movies. I have like one friend from my
high school days I especially like doing that with back
in the day. We still do that when we get together,
like watch it with him. It was like I was entertained,
I guess, but because it's what I wanted, a very
bad movie.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with a Wing Commander
nineteen ninety nine. This one was like I had some
excitement for it, even though I'm really my awareness of
Wing Commander was like, those are the games that Mark
Hamill did the F ANDV sequences for and I never
really played them. But they're making a video game movie,
so I'm gonna go see it. And I went to
see it and it was just nonsense and it was
like young actors kind of being quippy and trying to
be cute, and it was just all real terrible with
again really bad early CGI bad camera work in terms
of like early or late modeling. I suppose. Yeah, it's
a real rough one. It is very similar to the
ones like Double Dragon, I guess in really like Street
Fighter and Mortar Coombat Annihilation. It's in that vein. It's
one I kind of kind of curious to watch again.
I don't think i've seen it since I saw it
in the theaters, but yeah, Freddie Prince Junior and Matthew
what's his name it was, Yeah, it's just it was
directed by Chris Roberts, like Matthew Lillard. Thank you Chris Roberts,
who did Wing Commander. I guess he directed the movie.
Speaker 2: That's crazy and you could kind of tell that is wild.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really weird.
Speaker 2: That's like, that's like the Final Fantasy. I directed that
Final Fantasy. Yeah, that worked out. I've never seen this,
but it's so weird to me it exists because I mean,
I mean, you know, the Wikibator games had a lot
of you know, live action cut scenes. It had like
Mark Hamill, and it kind of already is a MOVI
in a lot of ways. Since I was like it's
kind of the thing with the Enchirey movies, like why
are we bothering? We're kind of already there had Freddy
Prince Jr. Man, I kind of want to watch this now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm curious to watch it again. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: It made eleven point six million dollars.
Speaker 1: Wow, and I was like five of those dollars, So
there you go.
Speaker 2: Uh. One of my favorite genre is a video game movie,
and they're usually bad is the fighting game genre, and
it fascinates me just to no end that it seems
like the most represented genre in movies when it comes
to vide game again.
Speaker 1: There is a King of Fighters movie from twenty.
Speaker 2: Ten, right, I've never seen that, Like somehow, every almost
every noble fighting in franchise has gotten a movie, even
though it seems like the worst suited to it because
they do not have very strong stories. They have way
too many characters, and a lot of them are pretty bad,
like a lot of fun Ways, the Tech and movie
not great. The Street Fighter like the Street Fighter movie,
but you know it's it's so camp be that I
think we do in now. But like the chun Lee
one awful, but right, the worst one I've seen and
it is like so bad that I would almost I'd
rather would watch it than a lot of them. Is
The Dead or a Lie movie from two thousand and six.
It didn't even really get a theatrical release. It was
so awful. I think it just sat in a vault
for a while and then they just sent it out
on to dv D. The big thing I remember for
this movie, it's the only one I ever remember, were
they at one point find a plot reason to actually
have health bars.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I really really really respected that of it. But I
remember watching this one and it was just off.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think this is one I've like eventually saw
on like sci Fi Network or something like in the
late two thousands or maybe early twenty ten's, and I saw.
I just watched bits and pieces of it then, but
it was really bad, really really bad. It does have
U is it? The layter for a lady from My
name is Earl. She plays Tina on Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, Jamie Press is uh yeah, Tina Armstrong. All right,
so there's like some remondames there.
Speaker 1: Oh I recognize her. Yeah. That was that that sort
of thing which they always they always get for these movies,
and it's it's like it is like even a couple
like notches above, like when they get oh, the guy
from nine oh two one oh, that hasn't acting forever
to be in Shark Nado, it's not even quite that.
It always feels a little bit more than that, to
the point where I sometimes even get my hopes up
a little. And of course it's always a mistake with
these movies. Anything else from you, Yeah, I'm like, I'm
thinking here, there's something like I feel like, yeah, we
could do that, but uh, like I'm not probably gonna
put Super Mario Brothers up there personally, I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's kind of a thing. There's something I think other
people would And I'm like, I like that movie actually
always kind of had fun with Super Mario Brothers. I think, yeah,
I think it's oddly ambitious. Yeah, yeah, it's weird. Maybe
I would have felt differently about it if.
Speaker 1: I was an adult.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like, but Double Dragon is the same exact thing,
And this booth came out at a time We're doing
like these weird grungey sci fi things. Was really the
style at the time, right, everybody was making escape from
New York or whatever.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's good. It almost might be weird
for this list to not have either or one of
these three Super Mario Brothers, Street Fighter or Double Dragon,
But I don't know, maybe we'll feel good about it.
Speaker 2: The Street Fighter is where because everybody just like everybody
just talks about that like it's a good movie. Now,
actually it's kind of weird. Yeah, which I mean I
enjoy watching it too. I don't know if I totally agree, like, yeah,
it's good. I don't think I like it because it's good,
it's fun. We can debate whether how attentional or not
that is. Yeah, I mean, maybe Mario Brothers does like
do something in terms of, like, you know, representing bad movies.
But again, I just have a lot of affinity for
the movie. Like I do not watch that movie for
the same reasons that I watch House of the Dead.
Speaker 1: Just absolutely not. All right, then I'm ready to go
to the podcast.
Speaker 2: Probably there's a couple of them thinking, but I bet
they'll bring them up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see here. I think, all right there, I'll
let me frame it up proper. But yeah, we will
start here with Doomidal Crossing, who does say Super Mario Brothers,
And I think we're gonna get a lot of this,
so it's gonna be a lot of people in the
podcast producers who are going to suggest these kinds of movies,
So we'll have to have a good sort of arguing against.
I think when it's all said and done, Mike, say
what you will.
Speaker 2: I think that Bob Hoskins as Mario was perfect.
Speaker 1: Guess mind. I enjoyed John Guizamo's Luigi.
Speaker 2: Yeah as young sexy Luigi. Yeah yeah. And then Dennis Hopper,
who's like the greatest villain actor ever. Like, it's just
there's a lot of good lot of a lot of
good actors of this movie, and they're all kind of
having fun. I know Bob Hoskins later talk about it
as a miserable experience, but you don't really get that
sets he's not phoning it in or something he's trying.
He's being a likable ever.
Speaker 1: It seems like, yeah, so that's what I enjoy.
Speaker 2: What's funny is you know, like everybody, of course, everybody
likes the new animated movie better. The plot very similar.
It is, they do the whole they're from Brooklyn and
get East Kyede into the Mushroom Kingdom. Things thill, which
is kind of funny.
Speaker 1: All right, let's see here a low rule says Final
Fantasy the spirits with then how do you feel about
this one? This one's kind of like sad in some way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it is, exactly, it's sad. It uh,
sort of. They didn't tank the studio obviously, but Square
Knicks was Square Sawt was riding an incredible high and
they got humbled by this movie. They put a lot
of money into it. Saka Gucci, the father of Final Fantasy,
was basically the end of his time.
Speaker 1: There he tail between his legs and sort of like
go lock his wounds somewhere. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it isn't but you know, it also was
a bad idea, like it was a really risky bet.
Then they call Final Fantasy. Even though like all Final
Fantasies are kind of different, this one the one that
is the movie.
Speaker 1: Very different and I don't even think.
Speaker 2: I can't remember if Chocobos were in it. There was
a guy named Sid even with a see it was
with an s. It was like so sci fi and
it was kind of you know, it was like real heady.
I remember I saw the theaters and it was just
kind of boring. Yeah, and it was like they want
you to be impressed because like, look, how technological advanced
is I'm like, yeah, in the world of CG movies,
that's gonna be outdated next month. Like that doesn't really matter.
I want to watch it again. I've not seen it
since it was in the years, but it could deserve
a spot because you know, a lot of these other films,
right like oh, the Mario Brothers movie was bat or
the Monster, hundred movies, bad whatever. This was square setting
up a movie studio. This had actual consequences for them.
Speaker 1: Yep, all right, let's hear Joyz says double Dragon man,
how dare you fucking guy?
Speaker 2: That's a that's a yep, and the guy from Iron
Chef America the chairman.
Speaker 1: Honestly, just the fact that they went so they're like, yeah,
we'll make a boat bobo for this movie.
Speaker 2: Like I don't know, I kind of respect it. That
weird like teenager hangout. That it's just like that weird
teenager hangout and teach me and it just shows one
another common theme at the time, weird the teenager hangouts
with like skating rams and arcade machines.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I wonder if like me seeing that as a
kid is like why, I'm like, I would never let
my kids go out and just like be alone somewhere
like that. They're going to get adopted it as some
criminal organization.
Speaker 2: They're gonna joined the foot clans.
Speaker 1: They're gonna join the clan.
Speaker 2: Look, I don't want to hear it though.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 2: Well, the water chase sequence is pretty good.
Speaker 1: It's pretty It's pretty okay, Alex the Gogo says Hitman
aged forty seven.
Speaker 3: Yes, this is the twenty fifteen one. It's not the.
Speaker 2: Two hit Man movies. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yes, this is the one with the guy from the
terrorist movie on Showtime. Friend, None, not the guy from Justified.
Yeah no, Timothy Olophone.
Speaker 3: Exactly correct. So yeah, this one's bad. The other one
and it's also pretty bad. So but I don't know
which one is the worst. So I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't see these because I never even cared
about the Hitman franchise until the World Assassination trilogy, which
happened after these movies. Ex So you know, it's wild
that there's two of these. We should watch them sometimes, Jeff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we should. There wasn't there some news that there's
something happened with Hitman. They're doing a Hitman show or something.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're going to do something.
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Right again. Uh, Willow Davis says Super Mario Brothers.
Chris Pratt's WoT Willow Davis?
Speaker 2: Come on, Chris does he doesn't represent our views?
Speaker 1: Chris Pratt, Yeah, we can't. The podcast producers can give
us ideas and we will soundly reject them. Terioki Blues
also says Super Mario Brothers the original one.
Speaker 2: Come on, they use super scopes as the weapons. They
painted them darker to make him look more threatening.
Speaker 1: Look at these in the goombas in the back.
Speaker 2: Oh, that movie is so fucking It was like terrifying.
They like Toad got like turned into a goomba.
Speaker 1: And it was like, do you have alution gun? Yeah?
Speaker 2: It was he got in the de evolutions like electric
chamber and that's very freaky. Oh it's a fucking weird movie.
Remember the in universe reason for why they could jump high.
They have super boots, yeah, the souper yeah, the power boots.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I don't I don't want to hear it. At
the ending, the confrontation with Mario Bowser where Mario uses
the bomb and it kind of like goes all around.
That's part. That's a good I love that. Great climax
also looked great. Yeah, it was actually great that boom.
I like that movie.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, uh, two time champ beef Hammers says also
I like nineties Mario movie. Okay, beef Hammers with us,
and also says dead or alive for third choice. Yep, Yeah,
I kind of I.
Speaker 2: Want to watch it again. I just remember it being like,
this is really rough. Oh my god. Again, Like me
and my friend were watching a lot of those. We
watched tech in like probably that same month, and Dead
arrives on a different level.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, uh, I want to see this King
of Fighters one, which I guess has I haven't seen
that zero percent on Rotten Tomatoes.
Speaker 2: So so it's oh so it's even worse than Borderlands.
Speaker 1: Uh huh. It's a low budget adaptation of the fighting
game series that was widely panned for its poor action sequences,
bad acting, and weak storyline. So it's got all. It's
got the trifecta.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, a triple threat.
Speaker 1: Uh huh uh screaming Madden says street Fighter, and then
someone here says yeah, fud Sack says, no, I disagree.
Speaker 2: Like I I like, I disagree probably in terms of
about Rushmore. I think that this movie is getting a
little bit too much of a glow up lately. But
if you want a real bad street fighter movie, watch
the Legend of chun Lee or whatever.
Speaker 1: That was called. That is boring, that one's rough always
be clothing. Slash Corgy says, this is is this more
to combat annihilation? Oh my god, yeah, I even forgot
about this sequence? Holy shit?
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god. Is that what I thought? Is
what I thought was Harry Howse effects just really bad CEG.
I think later on it is straight up claymation models,
but it may have just made that up in my head.
Speaker 1: Some of some of this looks now that looks h
clay mation there, or you know, a stop motion when
his head transforms into that thing.
Speaker 2: That's right, Luke King just turns into a dragon. Right,
God fucking movie, watch, I.
Speaker 1: Want to watch it real bad. Actually, let's see here,
Jamie H. Christmas, He says, oh god, I forgot about
this one. Doom starring Dwayne Johnson. I think this is
before he was doing The Rock Johnson, or in between
when he was.
Speaker 3: He was kind of between he was still rugg here
than you the.
Speaker 1: Rock all right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird because this is kind of like when
he was small for the last time, right, like not small,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: He wasn't like The Rock is now. Uh.
Speaker 2: The thing with this this movie was really disappointing actually
because I thought this was actually going to be good.
I kind of like it was like, oh, the Rock
pot right now he made some fun action movies like Doom.
Just seems like, yeah, that's that's set up. I remember
The Rock had like a lot of good media appearances,
like he was going on like Conor Bryan or something
and bringing the BFG onto the set. Stuff like The
Rock charm won me over. And then the movie like
Carl Urbans and it and the movie is very forgettable.
It has that one like actual first person sequence towards
the end that every that was like the one thing
anybody remembers from it, right. Otherwise very mid and for
being mid, it's it's almost kind of like extra back
because again, like I thought this one had potential and
they just fumbled the ball.
Speaker 3: I remember, yeah, and also you asked kind of exciting
because he was the guys that did Romeo Must Die
and that that movie fucking rules.
Speaker 1: I think the other thing I remember about it is
the Ain't It Cool News review of it for some
reason back when I was reading a lot of in
It Cool News.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they used to be a daily website for me.
Speaker 1: And I think I think he I think he really
liked it, and he was like, because I played Doom
multiplayer and so I liked this movie.
Speaker 2: And I remember his EPSOD one review where he's like,
and I know jar Jar was his glowing He's like,
I no, jar Jar has been controversial, but nest.
Speaker 1: To love him. And then he got the leak the
episode two stuff early and was like really talking it up.
I'm like, oh my god, I'm so excited. I can't
believe I got fucking worked by that. Carney Michael Riley
says the Angry Birds movie, Yeah, that one's real.
Speaker 3: I allowed that movie.
Speaker 1: The red bird is angry that pigs are moving on
to his island, and that's the whole driving factor of
the of the movie. But the end they live in harmony.
Right by the end of this, I don't know, I
can't remember. I haven't seen this movie. Yep. Oh yeah,
Wesan says Assassin's Creed. There is like this period of
movies too, this Imprince of Persia and things like that.
Speaker 2: They live in a very similar space to be uh
too forgettable. I think, man, they had they had Fastbender
in this very forget this and this was what was
weird because it's like, I think everybody just wants you
to adapt Assassin's Creed too, and they're like, no, this
is a brand new Saturs s Green story. He set
in Spain or whatever, and it's not very good, right,
just very forgettable. It's like a weird trivia piece that
this even happened. Yeah, Prince of Persia that one I
watched and I was excited and it was Disney and
it was also just very mid It's also weird because
you have Jake Joe.
Speaker 1: In Hall playing you know, like you know, the Persian and.
Speaker 2: It's not it wasn't like some god awful thing, but
it was like, you know, there was a lot of
time when Disney was trying a lot of things. They're
trying to recapture some of that parts of the Caribbean
family action Adventure Magic.
Speaker 1: They trying to do Prince of Persia and it did not.
Speaker 2: Stick YEP, And I think chat chatters are chatters are
on board Prince of Persia. Yes, I don't. I'm not
saying I don't hate it, but I don't forgettable. It's
it's not going to them out rush for everybody. I'm
surprised there's this much love for it and.
Speaker 1: This, I mean Assassine crewd way more forgettable because I
think kind of at the time was even a bigger
star than Jake Jonenhall was when he did Prince of Persia.
And I never think about this movie ever. Even if
you were like even Michael Fassbender was in my face
and he was like, for some reason she said the
words like assassins and creed like unrelated, it would not
I would not remember that, he was, like.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh, I don't remember that part of
Days of Future Past exactly, Like, well, when did that
happen in Prometheus? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Bench j C says border Lands only in theaters August ninth.
I don't think we can put it on there, considering
we haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 2: You're right, I kind of went to I'm gonna I'm
gonna like message my high school friend right now, be
like we're coming to town so we can see border.
Speaker 1: Landsgeu Mex says, is this a detective pikat correct.
Speaker 2: That's another one that I was disappointed in. It's not
a bad movie, but I thought I was like, Oh,
they're gonna nail this, this is gonna be fantastic, and
then it was like, ah, that was okay. I guess
like very like you know, kind of like plucky teenage
human characters. Why they had like very little chemistry with
each other, and then they didn't do a lot for me,
Like I loved the way the Pokemon looked, I liked
the weird, almost kind of Blade Runner aesthetic of the city,
and then just just wasn't the most exciting plot, just
not all that much fun. Really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think for me it was always low expectations
and then it kind of didn't even meet those, and
I only remember enjoying the in between shots of seeing
Pokemon in the real world and me like that was
kind of cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. I guess I just want a
montage of that.
Speaker 1: I suppose.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's where because.
Speaker 1: Like Reynolds plays detective Peak is shoes right?
Speaker 2: It was right Reynolds, and it was like, that's fun.
I mean just what I know, this movie did well,
but like this movie should have been a mega hit.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was, and it wasn't.
Speaker 2: It wasn't right.
Speaker 1: Input name here says Warcraft, which you know I never
seen it, but my understanding was always mean disappointing, but
it's not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this kind of has a street fighter globe or
people like that was good fun. Actually I have a
weird saw spot for it, just because like I got
to go to the premiere. I got They compromised me.
They compromised me, you know, Leroy Jenkins was there. But
you know it was like fun, Like I was on
like the carpet and stuff. Look like the movie is.
It's fine. It's nothing I would ever want to watch again. Uh,
but you know, they took a real swing with it.
I will say that it wasn't some cheap thing, and
there was definitely some good stuff there, especially stuff with
the Orcs that all pretty much works. But it's it's
not amazing.
Speaker 1: This movie came out today and they centered it on
the Orc. Mommy, Dommy, do you think that things would
be different for it.
Speaker 3: They fumbled the back. Moy, that's what the mommy dommy, Yeah,
there is.
Speaker 1: Who the sexy orc lady.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a sexy orc lady in Warcraft. Yes, you
mean so vanas the undead person.
Speaker 1: No, no, the lady that plays the lady that plays
like one of the agents Mission Impossible played a second.
Speaker 2: From this movie. Oh from this movie?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Oh oh the Corona. Oh oh okay, I don't work.
Speaker 1: Our friends don't care that much about Corona. I don't know.
Maybe yeah, okay, and then they need to teach him wrong.
I appreciate Mommy, Dommi's.
Speaker 2: Then yeah, chat, I know Savans isn't an orc. I
was just viking. Sure Jeff didn't know that, all right, Yeah,
I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know that savannas is or is not an orc. Everybody,
so he was just double checking.
Speaker 2: She was a high ouf than dieing and became an underman,
says Prince of Persia.
Speaker 1: We already talked about that. People got wrong.
Speaker 2: If you got mad that we suggested it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, jass Bucker, says Tar. Sorry. Kate Blanchette, which
does have does have a heavy Monster Hunter influence, so
maybe we can consider this, I'll.
Speaker 2: Blanche it's probably gonna feel great about video games at
the end of her career.
Speaker 1: Now, to be fair, tar a fucking master. He's that
movie is incredibly good. It's so good. Yeah, I really
like him. Doctor Ryan says, Hey, the King of Fighters
there it is got him even poster. It looks really bad.
Speaker 2: Who are these people supposed to be?
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's King of Fighters characters, and also like King of
Fighters is just a mashup of like fatal fury and
artifighting and a bunch of other things, like what do
you mean a King of Fighters movie? What are you
talking about?
Speaker 1: You?
Speaker 3: Is she my? Is she my?
Speaker 1: Supposed to be? My?
Speaker 2: But yeah, get it wrong.
Speaker 3: The guy in the back is KO. I can tell that,
and the other guy has to be YOI because he
has like a dark moon.
Speaker 2: That's my Come on, look, if you're gonna be you have.
Speaker 1: An iconic look, just do it, like just do that look.
Speaker 2: Like like my?
Speaker 1: Is that outfit? Like you put yeah?
Speaker 2: Like sorry, if you put if you put my in
like a red dress, I'm not gonna.
Speaker 1: Know physics, right I it's the two D character, all right?
Speaker 2: So that's just how wild. It was you ever see
like the progression of my sprites at the games that
I just got like the lean was more and more,
and like the sway got more and more. Is like,
oh my goodness, gracious.
Speaker 1: Me yep, uh, oh my god. Sledge ryin Hold says
Need for Speed starring Aaron Paul.
Speaker 2: They made They tried to make their own fast and
furious way.
Speaker 1: With Scrammy failed really hard. Uh. Yeah, I remember this thing.
Speaker 2: I remember the fucking poster. I never saw it either not,
I really want to. Yeah, these are prized of it
that bad. I bet it's very forgettable. It's wild that
it exists, though.
Speaker 1: I gotta look this up real quickly. You know, a
guy who plays Terry Boguard in the King of Fighters
movie direct is the director of John Wick, John wo director.
I just want to see m see if I recognize him.
Speaker 2: That's incredible. Actually, I'm like morely than I'm like, I
need to see all these movies. If it was if
it was a thing of good movies, I wouldn't care.
And now I'm like no, So Chad, Chad say, yeah,
I can see he looks like a dude. I guess
you could play a dude with a hat. Y. I
bet that they're terry book. I didn't even wear the
fucking baseball probably even probably didn't even have that.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, I mean I knew Max Pain,
but I forgot that was a Marquee Mark joint from
Vision four Mark.
Speaker 2: He Mark joint. He's in a couple of them. I
just yeah, I didn't even want to see this one.
Speaker 1: This one is like atrocious as well as what I've heard, it.
Speaker 2: Is supposed to be a trust I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was. Everyone hates this movie.
They like it's way worse than you would even expect.
Speaker 2: But now I'm sad I didn't see it, you know,
speaking me for speed, I always meant to see grint Arismo,
which people seem to like. I don't know if anybody
was like super level with it, but I wish I
had saw that one.
Speaker 1: People seem more positive about it than even uncharted. So yeah,
I think it's better.
Speaker 2: Than definitely, I think absolutely yeah, more better than fine
for sure. Max. That's so funny because next me like,
I don't know, it's somber. Yeah, I just don't think
of marky Bourk as somber no. Uh man, I'm gonna
take this list and I am gonna watch some of
these movies real, so I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna go at them all to my plex evo. Janna says,
Dungeons and Dragons. This is the original one, right, God.
Speaker 2: I remember this is the first time I remember being
in a movie theater, and because the release date was
December eighth something something, I remember thinking that's my birthday.
But then I did not see it. Yeah, I know
people don't like this movie, and people like the new
one quite a bit.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right. It's got like Marlon Wayans. I forgot
about that. Holy shit. Okay, man, I kind of want
to watch this. And the new Dungeons and Dragons movie
is like a double feature.
Speaker 2: That's not a video game. No, that's a tabletop game
coming Yeah, yeah, that's right, doesn't count. Worst table top
game movies ever done. Dungeons and Dragons and Battleship More
probably good, though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a problem. H Eden says, fired to the
legend of chun Lee and look at that that Nick
Cage looking guy in the back, Like that's so good.
Oh wait, I scroll up there for everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw I think I saw a movie in
thee years with that friend I was talking about it.
It's so boring, it's terrible. And again like, look, I
get you're probably not gonna put Chun Lee and her
street Fighter too out it, but for the love of God,
don't put her in like jeans and like like you know,
some black dress, like calm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do we do? What are we doing here
with that kind of stuff? It's just build a character
that actually has some identifiable features, not just a lady
at the.
Speaker 2: Mall right, Like that's like the whole thing with these characters,
Like so, what's matter? God?
Speaker 1: Yep? And yeah, and sometimes those are those siglettes are iconographic?
Why give that up? Whatever? Freedom mc liberty Ball says
Sonic the Hedgehog, Sonic the Hedgehog two, and Knuckles the
Paramount plus original streaming show.
Speaker 2: Look, I haven't seen that Knuckles. I never will, but
this poster has him wearing that hat, his OVA hat,
and I'm like, no, that gets a free pass. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: I like these these movies are fine. I think maybe
it's surprising how well that they do.
Speaker 1: I have to admit it.
Speaker 2: I guess it's not either're that good, but the crowd
pleasers think they got that right. It's funny because it
was not going to be They had that terrible sonic
design god, and they basically had to get bullied into
making the movie not terrible.
Speaker 1: And it's the one example when people want to be like, well,
here's why we need bullying. Sometimes it is like the
one sort of pro column for that. Yeah, yeah, I
I God, I'm like, I don't I don't know if
I even really like these movies, but I do not
hate them either, So that's kind of where I put him.
The elder ring Wolf five says Postal. Uh, Yeah, this
one's just.
Speaker 2: It's aesthetic, pathetic and it's weird because again it's like JK.
Simmons is in it somehow, Like how did that happen?
I don't know it it yet.
Speaker 1: I do know how Vern Troy ended up in it though.
That's yes, and Laden of course he was on hard times, Mike.
That's not funny for Stroyer Laden for like the New
Brat Pack. By that point they were working together all
the time. Stinky says, five nights at Fredday's God, I
forgot this happened? Did well? Did well? Children are stupid? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's not everybody speaking of a horror
movie ended up being like a like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I had to make it for kids. That's the audience
that you can't make an actual horror movie.
Speaker 1: Like, is it as creepy as like an uh, you're
not going to know this reference? Christian, are you afraid
of the dark episode or something like that.
Speaker 3: I do understand the reference. Yeah, yeah, a little bit
lessened down. It's like it's not done, it's not scary.
Speaker 1: Everybody, all right, let's let's get through some of these
in the rare zembless zone says blood Rain. Yeah, you've
a Bowl represented, but Blood Rayed definitely a bad one.
Is this the one that's been Kingsley? Is there multiple
UV Bowl movies with Ben Kingsley or is he just in.
Speaker 2: This one frequent collaborative. I forget if he's in Dungeon Siege. Uh,
but he's definitely a Blood Rain.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think uh uh. I did a soopper right.
His kid asked him, was like, why'd you do that
bad Mario movie? And he's like had to be, like,
you see those shoes you're wearing that I paid for
those by being in that movie is here? That are
Bob Boskins. Yeah, you're right, yeah, well yeah one of
them was telling a story like that. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Pablokas says Alone in the Dark Unrated Directors cut, there's
an a loan in the Dark two, which have you
ever seen that?
Speaker 2: Some of these have sequels that I don't think I have.
There's a I think I saw Blood Rain too, and
like the sequels are never like it's never quite as interesting.
Actually there's a dungeon siege too.
Speaker 1: I'm might be thinking of House of the Dead too,
is actually what I think I might be thinking of here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of these have sequels. Yeah, but
I never as good as the original, of course not. No,
you can't capture lightning in a bottle like that again.
Hammond of Texas says far Cry with Till Schweiger.
Speaker 1: Who I know from SLC Punks. So I would see
this guy like what he's in a far crime movie?
What is that? And then I would look at the
back and see you've a bol god.
Speaker 2: Who's the guy from Happy Days? Who's the director? Oh
Ron Howard? Ron Howard's brother is like Clint Howard. Yeah, yeah,
he's like the fucking stan Lee of Wui bul movies.
He's in all of them. Is just another incredible fact.
That's like when is Cliff Howard gonna show up? But
this one he always does.
Speaker 1: That's a good stuff. I like Clint Howard a lot.
Uh sky risword Sword says Mortal Kombat Annihilation. Yeah, look
look at this is politician here. I literally I might
watch this tonight. God, we're gonna be up late. We're
gonna colluse motaro is here. Yep, man hearty man. Mason
w says Alone in the Dark. Uh Freshly Steam Game
says Mortal Kombat that uh the HBO won, which hey,
I didn't finish that one because I fucking I hated
this movie. I was so boring.
Speaker 2: I was real burn on this because it was like
one of the first ones at the pandemic and I
remember like this one time my Twitter was like, oh man,
this is great. I was like, okay, cool. I guess
they I guess they got to figure it out. And
I saw it. I was like, that sucked.
Speaker 3: This movie wouldn't be great if he was like thirty
minutes shorter, Like.
Speaker 1: You got to get rid of the the the oct
so dumb. Goro. Yeah, stupid just doesn't add anything, like,
we don't need an audience surrogate. This is the easiest
ship in the world to understand. It's a guy with
four arms or whatever. We get how the more common
said at.
Speaker 2: The beginning where it's like, oh, scorpion could be the
main character. Will that be cool? Yes, like a scorpion
pieces of ship? Do that.
Speaker 1: All right? Let's keep going here. Laser Wolf says Uncharted.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh it's fine, fine, it's fine fine, major arms,
major arms.
Speaker 1: Two Blazer says Anger Birds, although I guess this could
be Angry Birds too. Yeah, it's impossible to know. B
says Pixels. When you think about this is a movie.
Speaker 2: About video games, it's a it's I never saw it,
although I love that. I love like the big reveal
or what's his face's character, It's like he's just being
like real good. It turns out that his glasses have
the cheek codes written on them.
Speaker 1: I've never seen that.
Speaker 2: World records like old arcade game. So it's like the Billy.
Speaker 1: Metell character basically, uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. And it's like, what are you
talking about? The cheap.
Speaker 1: Uh tea money og says street Fighter yep, that was
of course before.
Speaker 3: We continue, please, yes, Nikki raison on the chests. Remember
when he fox Cubert, which is real, turns into a
lady and how lady is he hot?
Speaker 1: Was female? Well?
Speaker 2: How hot was Cubert?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right, I want I'll look up either side of
it's a problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cubert doesn't need to turned to a hot lady
for me to.
Speaker 3: The post credit scene is him like tending to to
like a baby room and there's the old baby Cubert,
So explain that.
Speaker 1: So there's a litter of Cuberts. It's not like a
one baby situation. Okay, that's upsetting to think about. Cubert
became regnated once.
Speaker 2: Pretty hot, It's okay.
Speaker 1: Uh Tea money Og says, street Fighter Days in Man
two says tecn Let's see, yeah, Nick says, Rampage. That's
another one that's like forgettable.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they got the Rocky against some that was
like the tail end of like the Rocket Dudo wrong era, right, because.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that this one was the like the highest
grossing video game movie it to that point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because yeah, that one, Like you know, how nobody
is ever actually an attraction in Hollywood? Nobody like like
no one's going to go see Borlands because Jack Black
is in it. Right, there was a little bit there
with Dwayne Johnson. Was that but he was like, oh
my gosh, he made that weird Jumanti giant hit.
Speaker 1: What the that movie? That movie's really good. It was
sky Skyscraper. I think began to break the spell there
a little bit. Yeah, you're right, let's see Zipsus does
say House of the Dead. H let's see sec.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Austin Taylor, and Chat says, Bordertlands is starting now.
I'm the only one the theater. I love it so
much that was watching us by the If.
Speaker 1: You're the only one there, just keep us on next
to the movie. Uh, I mean, says double Dragon. I
like the idea of our voices just ringing out in
competition with uh of that fucking movie.
Speaker 2: Uh definitely has to have a bad like voice over
intro that tries to like dump a lot of plot
at once. Right, Oh yeah, that's Pandora.
Speaker 1: There are sixteen million different guns. Wait what Octo says, Well,
it's a reference to this is a tasty plasm. But
maybe I could sneak in and watch Final Fantasy Spirits
with them this is that that Square Enix franchise, remember
not what is the Left Alive? Not Left Alive?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, life is strange.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we are so old old brain.
Speaker 1: Games seem boring. Adam Juice says House of the Dead,
god Man, Look that just looks so shitty.
Speaker 2: Got Oh, there's a rave they go to like it
all happens on a rave island.
Speaker 1: By the way, Hell yeah.
Speaker 4: I watch that.
Speaker 2: Movie. There's a rave Isoland.
Speaker 1: Christian says Monster Hunter, and absolutely Postman Dan says, a
street Fighter.
Speaker 2: That's a great line right there, change the champ.
Speaker 1: There's so many great lines in there. God Turbo Shawn
says street Fighter to the street Fighter, the legend of
chun Lee. And then I hit the period button at
some point and sent that so great good work, thank you. Absolutely,
I'm on top of it.
Speaker 2: What's impressive is nobody mentioned any of those Paul W.
S Anderson Resident Evil movies. There's like them, and a
lot of them are not very good.
Speaker 1: But they cancel each other out at a certain thing.
Speaker 2: Everybody respects the fact that he got away with it
for so long.
Speaker 1: Yes, right, you got got work for his wife like
every single time, Like that's like a real wife guy
in Hollywood. I want to respect that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Also he's daughter. He's literally a lot of those
movies as well.
Speaker 2: So I always appreciate, like I saw like five of
them whatever, I was appreciated that they were all bad
but different genres. The first one tries to be a horror,
the second one is just a straight up action movie.
The third one is mad Max Woe It's It's wild.
Those are fucking weird movies, like but it would be funny.
But we're gonna watch all of the Paul ws Anderson
residual movies.
Speaker 1: I guess all right, we have so far House of
the Dead, Moral Combat, Annihilation, Monster Hunter, Wing, Commander Dead
or Alive? What else do we want to add to
this list?
Speaker 2: Mikey, I want to fund fancy spurs within I think
should be considered Okay, actual damage it caused, ye, which
was big.
Speaker 3: It's extra point for killing the squaresoft yep.
Speaker 2: I do think street fired. Legend of chun Ley shouldn't
maybe be considered excuse me, like that, uh, legend.
Speaker 1: Of chun Lee sirt hyphen and chun Lee.
Speaker 2: No it's a dush.
Speaker 1: Yeah oh there?
Speaker 2: Oh really anything else? I mean what do we want
to do about Mario Brothers.
Speaker 1: I mean, Mike, I think if it's between Mario Brothers,
Street Fighter and Double Dragon for that slot, like, I
can't mind what.
Speaker 2: I don't want the slot to exist, I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a lot of people are gonna be
like gonna say that, I think from a more general
audience on Twitter when we put this out there, But
they're wrong, I think, and I and I yeah, and
I damn say, Mortal Comby Nihilation is a fun watch,
that is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is sure, A lot of these are, sure, exactly,
but it.
Speaker 1: Is just a complete mess. It is so weirdly bad. Uh,
once again compared to the Mortal Kombat especially. Yeah, we
did Spirits Within.
Speaker 2: Because like it's probably a but it's a better movie
than a lot of them, I guess, but honestly in
a way that I find much less interesting to watch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I think we might have people.
Speaker 2: I didn't see that that Max Pain movie, but you
people seem really down on that one.
Speaker 1: Yes, Max Pain was very, very bad, but I've only
seen bits and pieces of it as well. Here here
we are, okay, okay, So once again we have House
of the Dead Mortal Kombat Annihilation, Monster Hunter, Wing, Commander
Dead or Alive, Final Fantasy of the Spirits with Them,
Street Fighter, The Legend of Chun Lee. I think we
probably have our four here and the last chance maybe
to add one other one. What are you thinking?
Speaker 2: What I'm thinking is that House of the Dead is
a lock. That's what I'm thinking. That is, like, yes,
that that is that is the movie I think, Like
I said, that'd be on my mount rushmore of like
bad movies, right, like it was a fucking the room
and things like that. That's how much I think about
that movie all the time.
Speaker 1: All right, Uh yeah, I I would put up more.
I want to put Mortal Kombat Annhilation up there because
I do think that that, Yeah, that one's so bad.
It's good, but but it is also just very bad.
And I think I was so bad it's good. Movies
should be up there as well, or you know, I
guess another one, and I know you'll enjoy watching House
of the Dead, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh they can all kind of They're all
a little bit like that for me.
Speaker 1: Don't worry, right, that's fair. Yeah, all right, So now
we are picking between Monster Hunter, Wing Commander Jederal Live,
Final Fantasy of the Spirits Within, and Street Fighter The
Legend of Chun Lee. I'm I'm okay with putting Street
Fighter The Legend of Chung Lee up there or Live.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my question. Which fighting game movie I think?
I think The Air Alive is objectively a worse movie. Yeah,
I think it's more pathetic movie a lot of ways.
I would much rather watch it than Street Fighter attentional
lye because their life does, like, you know, it's like
a tournament and all that crappy.
Speaker 1: Stuff you have the late fight scenes.
Speaker 2: Legend Lee tries to be like an international spy thriller.
It's really bad. It's really boring. It's maybe even worse
that they're alive in some ways. It's like they're bad
at different ways. I could do either of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's put Street Fighter the Legend of Chun Lee
up there, and just the name recognition alone will help.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me find the the year of that. That's
two thousand and nine. The Legend of Chun Lee for you?
Speaker 1: Uh okay, two nine? Thank you? And then do you okay?
So then last slot, I think I'm leaning towards Monster Hunter.
You kind of won me away.
Speaker 2: I think I'm leaking towards Monster Hunter too. I think
like people forget, like that movie came out not that
long ago. I think most people forget that happened, and
it's wildly you'd had something of a budget. It is
just a complete wrong approach. It's no, it's no fun whatsoever.
It's like, it's barely even like, oh, this is kind
of like a fun hate watch. It's not even really that.
It is terrible.
Speaker 1: It's got and it's got like that really good younger
martial artist actor in it that I was excited about.
I'm like, oh, well, he's great at action. They'll just
do some fun stuff for that. And it doesn't sound
like they did anything with him. So yeap, just a
waste of everybody's time. And okay, so our mount rushmore
bad video game movies is House of the Dead, Mortal Kombat, Annihilation,
Street Fighter, the Legend of Chun Lee, and Monster Hunter.
That sounds good to me, and I'm gonna post that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad we didn't put I'm glad we didn't
follow her pressure and put more.
Speaker 1: Your brothers are Double Dragon in there? Yeah great, I
agree that. Yeah, it just doesn't it doesn't fit really
for me at all.
Speaker 2: No, No, those movies are can't being dumb and fun
and they took real swings. They felt like actual movies
from that time, you know, but a way that Monster
Hunter does, right, Monster Hunters clearly just being made cheap.
Speaker 1: All right, Mikey, we are going to move on now
to our Hall of Fame. Christian, do we need another break?
Speaker 2: Ummm?
Speaker 3: Now, we're good.
Speaker 1: We're good.
Speaker 3: You went on break after we did this, before the
superto Hall of.
Speaker 2: Fame and then before the rest of super Chets and
what playing well do you sounds good?
Speaker 1: All right? Well, Sean, we need your help to bring
in the results of last week's nominees for the game
mess Hall of Fame. Let's see here, uh yeah, with
real quick. The nominees were Jack and Daxter. The precursor
legacy was three D platformers, that's right, Astro's Playroom, Ratchet
and Clank, Banjo, Kazuoey, Psychonauts, and Rayman to the Great Escape.
So people have an opportunity, if they are a podcast producer,
to go in the discord and vote for one of these.
But then we take the top two vote getters and
induct them into the game mess Hall of Fame, Sean,
do you have the results?
Speaker 4: I do, And this is gonna be an interesting one
because we allow everyone to vote for their favorite and
then overall we take the top two highest earning nominees.
This time we actually have a tie for first place,
so those would be the two who make it in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, do you want to maybe start
in the bottom of like the ones, like, maybe they've
got the least votes and can work our way up.
Speaker 4: Sure, so the least amount of votes. With unfortunately one vote,
one person thought that this game ruled was ray Man
to the Great Escape.
Speaker 2: And I knew that. I knew it was the boomer
pick you're all missing out. That's a very good game.
Speaker 1: But I get it Uphill Battle for sure.
Speaker 2: It had Uphill. I hope that game gets remastered or something.
It was the kids need to know back in two thousand,
it was the talk of the town.
Speaker 4: In fifth place, with five votes, is Jack and Daxter
the Precursor Legacy?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Interesting, I thought maybe that would do a little bit better.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Well Wolf and his four all to counts
weren't enough.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, okay.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: In a fourth place, we have let's see to do. Okay,
that corresponds to Psycho Knots with eighteen votes.
Speaker 1: Eighteen votes is really respectable.
Speaker 4: Day.
Speaker 2: Big jump from the last place was okay, okay, I said,
better than Jacket Daxter. That's surprising to me, and I
think it's maybe the power of having a slightly more
recent game.
Speaker 1: Huh yep, a little bit and place on the breaking
up a little bit. Hang on, start over now, who's
doing this?
Speaker 4: Okay? So I was trying to rig this. Third place,
the one that just barely doesn't make it in is
Ratching Clink. Wow twenty three votes. Oh my gosh, I
just read with the winners. Okay, yeah, so tied for first.
Both of these make it in twenty nine votes. Apiece,
you have Astro's Playroom and Banjo KAZOOI.
Speaker 1: That is wow.
Speaker 2: I thought Banjo Kazoo would get in. People still have
a lot of fondness for that game, and it's a
good game.
Speaker 1: I thought.
Speaker 2: I was like, man, are people gonna is Astro too
new for other people? That's a game that is very
on brand for us. We talked about I Bettle of
our community feels the same way, though.
Speaker 4: It's just too damn good to not miss just too good.
Speaker 1: Yep. So that means our current hall of fame is
Super Mario Brothers, Super Metroid Street Fighter two, Super Mario
sixty four, and that's not the last of the S games,
but Mario Card eight, Deluxe F zero g X, Undertail,
Shovel Night or In the Will of the Wisps, Castlevania
Symphony of the Night, Streets of Rage two, Sonk the
Hedgehog two, deem It Souls, Uncharted too Night, So the
Older Republic does Uncharted to have a subtitle Mike, Yes,
Among Thieves Uncharted two, Among Thieves, Halo Combat Evolved, Shadow
of the Colossus, Metal Gear, Solid three, Snake Eater Subsistence, Subsistence,
and then Astros Playroom and Banjo Kazooi joined in in there.
Well done to those games. They earned it. We'll make
sure they get the trophies on their wall at some
point here in a little.
Speaker 2: Bit subtitle guy.
Speaker 1: Everybody's got a subtitle?
Speaker 2: Guy?
Speaker 4: Your mind?
Speaker 2: All right, i's gotta have a subtitled guy.
Speaker 1: I got a guy for the subtitles. Don't you all
worry about that? Congratulations once, Congratulations once again to those games.
We will do another Hall of Fame, probably in a
few weeks to a couple of months. It's something that
we do maybe a couple times a year going forward.
I enjoy doing this, but the list is already getting
pretty long, honestly, so it's good. It's good. Yeah, yep,
waity to do it. All Right, we're gonna take a
quick break when we get back. Michael read more super
chats and we'll talk about what we've been playing right
after this. All Right, we are back, and I do
believe we have more super chats, so Mike go ahead
and read those.
Speaker 2: Gerber said, Wing Commander needs to mention at least what
gotta mentioned.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was close to making it like it really is.
That's one Mike, I think you should actually like prioritize
to watch.
Speaker 2: A bad a late nineties sci fi movie.
Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety nine, right, so it's like Phantom, Menace and
Matrix are coming out, and that's another one of those
movies I saw that year.
Speaker 2: So I had to be honest, like, that's way later
than I thought this movie came out that I associated,
we committed for like the three d Oh, you know,
I was like, this has to be like ninety four
or something.
Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, yeah, man, these are movies we should have
brought up to like the trailers silently when we were
talking about something good. Yeap.
Speaker 2: Wayne marsays, do you think do you think GTA six
might do a subscription model for online instead of a
higher price based game like a lot of people are speculating.
This is Wayne's first super chat? Thank you, Wayne? Who
subscription models can make a lot of money, Jeff, it's
when the last one didn't have one.
Speaker 1: Though, they'll do they'll do both right because both you'll.
Speaker 2: Get some premium currency. I mean just that tline have something. Yeah, yes,
so it won't be we.
Speaker 1: Do both because they'll they'll be happy to take your
money at the store and online every month. And uh yeah,
I would fully expect that to happen.
Speaker 2: The char Wolf says, do you guys think video games
better adapted to the TV format like Fallout and Arcane
versus the theatrical releases also just play video games instead?
Speaker 1: I largely agree.
Speaker 2: I mean it seems like, I mean, look, they're just
both different formats and they can hit or not. It
seems like the TV ones have been doing pretty well lately.
Like I don't think a fall up movie could ever
really have worked, I'll say that. I think that had
to be a TV show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably in Arcane.
Speaker 2: And kind of that cyberpunt thing Edge Runners. That's great
because you can kind of do something different. You don't
just have to do some kind of retelling of something.
So that works out well, But you know, you still
have things that don't work, like that last President Evils
show again in Halo, Right, Halo didn't really work either,
So it's it's not it's not a golden bullet. Bullets again,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: A lot of times, whether it's a TV or movie,
it just comes down to the filmmaking and how good
the filmmaking is. And uh yeah, I think the TV
format has some advantages in that people do really want
to care about the characters, and the TV gives you
more chance, more time to spend with those characters. And
I think that's why fall Out worked so well.
Speaker 2: Doctor Ryan says, I know we already have a monthly
game club, it's a bi monthly game club now, but
with all this talk tonight, how about a monthly video
game movie club. Well, remember the speaking of that game
club becoming bi monthly turns out free times something of
a premium these days.
Speaker 1: And if there was, if Amazon still had or you know,
Twitch still had the watch party stuff, sure and it
was you know, some of those movies were on there,
it'd be much more likely and much easier to pull
off and justify and stuff like that. But as is,
it's it's tough. But I would love to occasionally pick
one of these movies and talk about it like I'm
like BCR or something like that. That could be like
a time.
Speaker 2: Maybe we should do some film in forties with some of
these like that. That'd be funny.
Speaker 1: We'll make that happen eventually.
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, absolutely, that's it for now. If you guys
want to squeeze in anymore, you have a few minutes
here while Jeff and I talk about Dan records into
that film Dan record, Ricker, what what movie do we
talk about today? Would you be most excited to do
a film in forties of uh one? Maybe when you've
seen before one you haven't seen Let me know, Dan,
let me know in the chat. Mister Dan Reker of
giant bomb dot com, formerly of Game in Former, just
an absolute beacon of this industry. Thank you so much
for joining us today. Dan Rekert, we're com an Annihilation.
The first thing he said, thank you, did.
Speaker 1: You guys not do a film in forties Mortal Combat Annihilation?
Because if you have not been that filmost feels like
a dereliction of duty and we should get on that immediately.
But if not, yeah, yeah, Sean. I was also worried
about what was happening. I feel like Mike's gonna like
stab him, like if yeah.
Speaker 2: I had that one beer, what's happening?
Speaker 1: All right? Never mind asked it answered, there we go.
All right? So that with super chats, that means, Mike,
what have you been playing? Oh?
Speaker 2: Man? I mean I don't know why. I'm like loving
Beyond Good and Evil.
Speaker 1: That is hitting like crazy for me.
Speaker 2: I like the Gateway. The game feels is fantastic. It's
kind of a it's fine like it, you know, it's
kind of like somewhat dark, like oh, we're being invaded
by aliens and whatnot, but it's mostly cute. It's kind
of real cute and wholesome and nice ways. I think
it feels very good as far as Zoda clones go.
There's a lot of charm. It's very pretty. The music
is incredible and like that remsser is just very spiffy.
The game is running very well. Things are upras in
a great way where you know, you would never think
this was an original Xbox game. You'd made me think
it was a three sixty game. But it's looking fantastic.
I've just been very impressed with this remaster.
Speaker 1: Yeah, watch you play some of it, and it did
look really really nice, and I think, you know, just
kind of get the sense like, yeah, they're it was
more going on here than I even remember. I mean,
I enjoyed the game, but like I said before, I've
never I don't think i've ever beaten it. There was
definitely a place where I got seep into it and
I really like discovered a lot more than I had previously.
And again, I enjoyed a lot of it, but watching
you play it did make me want to get in
there myself, and I downloaded on the Steam deck and
maybe I'll give that a shot. Here there's a lot
going on, a lot I want to be playing, but
I definitely definitely peaked my interest.
Speaker 2: It made me indignant at the idea that they were
ever even like seriously working on that weird spaceship Pirate
prequel thing and not just make another one of these,
just make another twenty hour like zet Ali. Like ev't
your game set on a planet, it'll be great.
Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely anything else you've been playing, Uh.
Speaker 2: It has to be. Yes, what have I been doing?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, you know I finally picked up on
the Switch. This is my switch game, sure, in the Wanderer,
not the newest one, oh the one before that. A
part of a DS game is like on sale, uh
something something tower. So I'm playing a sheer in the
Wanderer game right now, doing some mystery dungeon shit, right.
Speaker 1: It so describe the gameplay again, I can never remember.
Speaker 2: The whole thing with these games is like, you know,
they're roguelikes, but it's like if you move and the
enemies all move, so it's it's like turn It's like
real time turn Base is a way I would play it,
So you have to be very deliberate. It's also very
much like if you don't get to the dungeon, you
die and you lose everything.
Speaker 1: Uh right, so you have to go.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if there's anything you really keep
between runs or anything like that. You know, I've only
I've only played it for a few hours now, so
nothing crazy, uh, but yeah, I haven't played a ton
of these. The last one of these I probably did
play was maybe an order Shear in the Wanderer, maybe
Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon something like that. But yeah, I was like,
I was just like basically browsing games on sal because
I still haven't really found something I really want to
play on my switch right now. It's like, Okay, I
can't fuck around with Sheer in the one, but I
know Bailey like she're in the one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you really like that newer one a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And I looked at that one like, I mean,
I'm not so sure we're gonna like this. I want
to pay that for this, but this one's on sale.
What the hell I will go with this?
Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, those you're in the Wanderer games people have
liked for a really long time. I remember on the
three DS people really liked those ones. Or maybe it
was the s I can't remember, but yeah, as you
think that's the game, I might. I've always been like
curious about it, but I really had no frame of reference.
Speaker 2: Really, it's hard to say. It's very specific. It's very specific.
Speaker 1: That's when I can just try and see how I
feel about it.
Speaker 2: Christian's getting terrified that you're getting him dmc ah strick
with this Mortal Combat evalhulation. But I'll tell you what,
I'm enjoying it.
Speaker 1: There's Cyrus, that piece of shit, and yeah worth it
if they are on time, if there's like a lawyer.
I'm obviously DMC could be automated. But man, if they're
still on top of that and they're updating to be like,
we need to worry about Mortal Combat eviohilation, they deserve
my money. They should just chieve us.
Speaker 2: In that movie they put the sheet, they're wild, They're
crazy for that.
Speaker 1: Wait, they were so many characters in that movie. They
didn't not care anymore. Yeah, I've been I played Wavery
sixty four because Dan got me that for the sixty four,
so I was playing some of that. The game still
rules really hard. I like that a lot. I did.
I played Okay, I played some Mega Man x seven
because I wanted to see if it's as bad as
people say it is.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm like that you got in the move from
Mega Man and you went to like pretty much the
worst one of the numbered of all the numbered ones.
Speaker 4: Oh fucking long have you been trying to get him
to play Mega man Acts and this bit exce.
Speaker 2: Did you get Did you play one of the weird
on rail speed bike levels?
Speaker 1: No, but I did play some of like the four
like the contra in between levels, like running forward ship,
and it was like, that felt really bad. I'll be honest.
I wanted to see if that game was bad enough
to be a Blake Club game for you.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, that's interesting thing. I bet it's not quite
that bad to be.
Speaker 1: Sean said it was, and and I was. I'm like
going back and forth as I'm playing it.
Speaker 4: Oh, I said the opposite.
Speaker 1: Oh you did. Okay, then I must have been okay,
I must have misread what you wrote. Okay, that that
makes more sense. Okay, But it's just a really bad
Mega man X game. It's not a really bad or
like a complete tra.
Speaker 4: With like a you know, one of those license games
of like it's a bad game, but it's not like.
Speaker 2: It just yeah, it has like they try to add
like some quote unquote three D segments that are like,
you know, I don't think you even get to play
as Mega man X for a while, right, like, he's
not a playable character right away.
Speaker 4: You're gonna play mostly as Axel.
Speaker 2: I believe, right, Axel, everybody's big favorite Axel. What a poochy, right,
is a big fat pooci.
Speaker 1: It's a bad game, though it doesn't feel good to play.
Speaker 2: No. X ay was a bit of a course correction
because it's you know, xceven. Also the thing where it's
like we have three D models in our mostly two
D game and I'm like, well, that just looks way
worse than the pixels. X eight still has that, but
it's a much better feeling game than Next seven, right. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then you know, I did a few things here
there where the kids started playing Unraveled two because they
want they they found my unravel yarny doll and we
were messing around with that and I'm like, hey, there's
a game of this. You guys want to check that out.
And they started playing that co op and they needed
a lot of help, and it's like, oh man, this
I like this game. It's like very realistic environments. I
forgot that unravel was like that, where it's like, oh man,
it's like stormy, So you really do feel for this
little guy that's there are these two little guys in
this case where they're just these fragile looking dolls out
in the world and it's storming and they're getting blown around,
and just that's really effective and I like that. But
I played Unravel one and I didn't ever feel much
of a need for an Unravel two. Uh So I
hadn't played this game before, but you know, it's fine.
It does what they're trying to go for, but not
one that I'm like, oh, people should oh, then people
overlook this and they should be rushing back to that
it's not really that. And then spent a little bit
more time with Tomba, which, yeah, I'm digging. It's so
different from what I was expecting and from what I
associate with platformers of that time that I really respected
that they were going for something. They're like, we have.
It wasn't just like, oh, a two point five D platformer.
It's like, we have a new dimension here, let's try
some new ideas as well. And not everything works, and
some of it again, it feels kind of cheap in
the movement a little bit. And I understand Tomba two
is better. I haven't really played that, but Tomba one
for what it is is of a novelty a definitely
worth checking out, especially for this special edition. They do
a pretty good job. It has a few bugs here
or there, but apparently they're working on those, so probably
gonna be worth picking up here pretty soon for everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of want to Chrye just because Tombo
was such a rental game for me, so there's some
nostalgia there.
Speaker 1: I guess Dan wants me to tell Addie that Yarny
is Funky Kong, because again, that's what he was doing
to torture her, was saying that all these characters are
different characters and she was so mad she could not
handle that. That'll be fun. And then did I talk
about Steven World Heist too on nintend Dogs I can't remember.
I think you did, actually think it might have, so
stick with that. That's still really good, So I'll be
playing more of that. But there's a few other games
that are coming out here pretty soon that I'm starting
to get my hands on, so that's been taking up
some of my time, So not much I could talk
about in this moment that doesn't for me. For me, Mike,
how about you? Anything else?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about it. I think I won. There's no
more super chats. I think we're about done here.
Speaker 1: All right, nextll I'm gonna hit the button then, oh,
I gotta do that. There we go and I'll remo
muted there there it is a piece of music. Yeah,
you know how it goes. Thanks everybody for listening. I'm
glad we were able to kind of get back on
track with getting these episodes out and no longer have
moths am I I thing, did you see any boss
when you're here? We do? I think we eliminated all
of them.
Speaker 2: I did not notice a single moth. Jeff Smory, we
went after him. Yeah, and you know, next week's gonna
be fine. Week after though, I will be in Germany,
so that's right.
Speaker 1: So and Dan think Dan is traveling next week, so
we won't be able to do your first episode. No
Blake Club is gonna have to take a couple of
weeks off, I think so, yeah, yep, a couple of
weeks off.
Speaker 2: I'll be a little bit before that debut episode.
Speaker 1: And honestly got the week after that, so like there's
two weeks for sure. The week after that, I might
be out of town. I might be getting back that Wednesday,
so it might be a close call what we'll have
to see. I know my flight that day is like
six am coming back home, but I have a couple
of connecting flights, so it's.
Speaker 2: Not really just basis. Like you know, sometimes these games
can certantly become a part of your personality, right So,
like in my house right now, with some costume and
some game that might become important to me in some weird,
messed up way, and I'm like.
Speaker 1: You haven't no idea right now. Yeah, that's no idea,
that weird feeling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, other people think that Ninja Ninja gingerbread game or whatever,
and I'm like, no, that's like number one on most
people's list for badly you games. If it was that obvious,
they wouldn't be actink so coy and cute. A. I
don't know, you're stone facing so hard right now that
I'm like, maybe it's just that Ninja bread game. I
don't know, let's see, it could be anything, could.
Speaker 1: Be anything anything. It could be any game.
Speaker 2: And I fucking hate that console, durs. I'll tell you what.
It's hard to say because there are a lot of
bad games for the Wii, probably like in terms of
systems of metacritics, games of metacritics of three unless the
we might be king.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's there's so many games to just buy raw numbers. Yeah,
you might be right for that. And they weren't trying
very hard either, because they're like only idiots bought that console.
A bunch of old people. They will, they'll buy anything.
And they didn't actually buy any of those games, but no.
Speaker 2: No, they were the only games they ever bought were
uh we sports And because Carnival Games, remember Carnival Games
is a legitimate hit. What the fuck?
Speaker 1: I cannot wait for Mike's game by everybody until next time.
I have a good one. Take care of yourself. See that.
Speaker 2: Being surprised that that will dug shot up in a
lot of cords going into slots. Mmmm, it sounds like
two separate audio because being pushed together. But it's not.
Speaker 1: Nope, it's just how you feel about chords going in slots.
Speaker 3: All right, we are on the breaker R No problem.
Speaker 1: Happy International Cat Day everybody. I hope you're enjoying it.
Got there and pet a friend those kiddie cats. Dan
was taking pictures of Nico Mumo because in person, Nico
is a is a specimen is. I think they're really
the only way to describe him big the big boy. Yes,
I think it was showing bunk. He was on here
here back can look at this thing.
Speaker 3: I was thinking they'll getting the cat cats are great.
I like them's too much work. I think the cuts
are more like you're chill you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that is that is my thing about it,
where it's dogs are too needy for me, and I
need uh, I need something that like doesn't ask a
lot of me, and I don't need to ask a
lot of it, and we're kind of cool and then
occasionally we're like, hey, you want to like go hang
out and watch the TV and cuddle or something like that.
Speaker 2: Every once in a while that sounds about right to
me to ship.
Speaker 3: And it's just just they should do.
Speaker 1: It, yeah, exactly, Like just like I'm out of water.
Oh so I'm so sorry. I'll go get you right now.
It's that easy.
Speaker 3: Not even those machines to feed the auto fields.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got one. That's why. That's the only reason
I would forget. It's like if I was if I
was giving water every day, I would just do that
as a as a habit. But I have to do
it like once a week, and I forget until he
cries at meh okay, yeah, let me make good stuff here.
Speaker 3: Those the super chat alright, how would we do that?
Speaker 1: How are we going to do the Hall of Fame thing?
Are we just going to talk about it? I guess yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean it's just reveal the things game we're picking too, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be picking too, number one and number two? Yeah,
top two? All right, out of the six. Let me
just get where that was in podcast producers. Okay, cool,
thank you? All right, then I think we'll get back
to it here in a second.
Speaker 3: All right, okay, bro Onion soup O.
Speaker 1: The list.
Speaker 2: I cook the onions all the time, but I do
dice them up like crazy, so they basically just melt
into whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeahs, I do agree. I don't like the the I
don't like the soft the soft onion. I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I think, on yeah, go with red Onion because it's
more crunchy.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take any.
Speaker 4: Bad Onion takes up in here.
Speaker 3: D is a little bit too strong for me. I
like it on like a song, but I would.
Speaker 1: I had my red Onion period where it was like
give me that strong flavor that just overpowers my entire
sensus of my brain. Can't think anymore. And I'm a
little bit cooler on him now these days, but I
still really like it.
Speaker 4: All right, all right, all right, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, Yeah,
you're with me Burger king boys.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: You're telling me you're getting the French frieser or the
onion rings.
Speaker 1: Oh, not necessarily sometimes, but I go back and forth.
I like both quite a bit. Wait are you always
doing the onion rings?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Onion rings rule I.
Speaker 1: Like, I likes. I never said I don't like onion rings.
Speaker 4: I am so much better than French fries I.
Speaker 1: Have to be there. They're a bigger commitment, so I
have to like think about it. Like, am I in
the mood for onion rings. It's kind of where I'm
at with onion rings.
Speaker 4: I know he's mentioned he doesn't like it whenn't like
you bind the onion ring and the whole onion comes.
Speaker 1: I don't like that. That does that really gets to me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a I understand me.
Speaker 1: Whatever, I'll eat it. I don't care.
Speaker 4: But I mean, I just saw I just said the
breading in my mouth too, and I'm like, got the
whole thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Man, I could go for a Whopper
junior right now. Wapper juniors are real good. Uh okay,
we don't have to do too much to get set up.
Speaker 3: We gotta you need to set up to show the
images from the tread. They're pretty funny. So I kind
of want in on the screen.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Let's looking to post everybody. Sorry, but if you got it,
you got it in get it in a right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I lovely people. I miss eating I miss eating hots,
I miss eating unk food so much. Yeah, I'm kind
of disappointed. And then in some of you all because
some of those movies are good. I would consider him
good movies.
Speaker 1: There we go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, alright, found one. No no, no, no, no, no, that's
a that's so bad. It's good that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one.
Speaker 3: I know where you're talking about. I think it's britt mum.
Oh no, onions.
Speaker 2: Onion soup. You know.
Speaker 3: You know what I love that I haven't in in
a while is your liver liver and the Yeah, she's
like onions.
Speaker 2: Like from that episode of Doug.
Speaker 3: It is delicious.
Speaker 1: All right, that is set up now, okay, all right, cool,
I am. I think I'm ready to bring us back.
Then we'll do the mount rushmore first.
Speaker 3: All right, products and services are being right now to
the ears.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Team one. You were gonna say, Astro's probably cut
off right now, So twenty twenty is the cutoff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did it, twenty twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that.
Speaker 4: I think that's old boomer. I think just good games
are good. Yeah, I mean, I know recency bias.
Speaker 1: Recency bias clearly affects things, but yeah, it's.
Speaker 4: Not even like even like a year is I don't know.
I feel like that's.
Speaker 1: Stuff fair enough. Yeah, there's plenty of old games for
us to pick for now though, so we'll probably do
the next time, maybe even lean a little bit older.
Uh okay, let's see what have I been playing?
Speaker 3: I mean playing games I can talk about made Uh
finally said, it happens to me too.
Speaker 1: My kids found my old YARNI that EA sent me
when Unraveled came out. Yeah, so they're like, well, what
is this And I'm like, you know, he's from a game,
and I'm like, you know, there's unravel too, where you
can play two players.
Speaker 2: And so they started kind of doing co op of that,
and that was pretty fun to watch them try to
figure that out.
Speaker 1: They did, Okay, it's a there's a bit more going
on than I think they can quite handle together. But
it was fun to watch and try to play that.
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh, Tony Jah, he's the guy you were talking about.
Speaker 1: Tony ja Yeah, yeah, what's his what's his movie that
I really like? Big Back? Yeah, that's the ship. That's
a good movie. Love me like, I'm an old man.
I'm not gonna remember.
Speaker 3: Come on, I know, man slapping meat. Well they're kind
of tiny.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, super Barrio brothers. Oh god, I was just
shriveling into a raisin.
Speaker 1: What what what? Wait? What was it? What was the
joke there?
Speaker 2: Brio Barrio, It's Mario Yes, okay, ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that just comes out like reading. I'm like, yeah,
super Barrio, yeah, Barrio Boh yeah that's how, that's how,
that's how Backlar would say it.
Speaker 4: Oh we know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just showing a little respect and deference. M man.
That was a good basketball game. I barely squeaked it out,
but that was a lot of fun. Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: I need to watch The Protector. Everybody said that The
Protector is crazy good.
Speaker 1: The Protector. Yeah, Mchanas is saying The Protector is amazing. Okay,
I'll watch it. I'll do that. I do not think
i've seen that one. I'll do that. Has Tony John
done much else that is like worth watching?
Speaker 3: It wasn't a true play X movie, I think.
Speaker 1: All right, I'll see what the last one? Okay, I'm good,
all right? Oh man on Back three, though, is got
a very low score on IMDb. That's sorry.
Speaker 3: I mean it's a pretty good bock.
Speaker 1: It's the Tony Jo movie that Tony Jow was. That's
Martial Artist. Uh, that was in Monster Hunter.
Speaker 2: One moment, this is this is why I can't hear you,
mistery solved?
Speaker 1: All right, all right, and I am dB back three,
which is the starts Tony Jah who was in Monster Hunter. Okay,
I want to watch you. Back one was when I
watched and really really enjoyed. Uh, but apparently on Back
three much worse. Uh. Okay, let's see here. All right,
I'm ready if you are, Mike, Yes, sir,