WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.639 --> 00:00:09.240 But welcome to Jewish History Uncensored with Mark Shapiro. This 2 00:00:09.359 --> 00:00:10.720 is season sixteen. 3 00:00:10.599 --> 00:00:26.000 Episode forty. 4 00:00:30.519 --> 00:00:37.039 Okay, a few things. As always, I showed you last 5 00:00:37.079 --> 00:00:41.359 class a picture of the kever of the grave of 6 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:46.320 Rabbi Shiman Oppenheim, and I said, it's the only example 7 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:50.719 I know of whereof where someone basically says, come to 8 00:00:50.799 --> 00:00:54.520 my kever and your prayers will be heard. Well, Rabbi 9 00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:58.439 Mordechai from Brooklyn points out that there's someone else. It's 10 00:00:58.520 --> 00:01:01.280 very similar. I don't know if anyone recognizes the person 11 00:01:01.359 --> 00:01:04.719 we're looking at. His name is Rachela Moskovitz, the Schatzer 12 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:09.120 Rebbi of London. You can read about him here and uh. 13 00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:12.680 It actually says that he left an ethical will specifying 14 00:01:12.719 --> 00:01:17.239 that anyone coming to his grave. Uh well, and it 15 00:01:17.359 --> 00:01:20.319 can ask for his help. And he says, uh that 16 00:01:20.439 --> 00:01:24.879 he will attempt to intercede in heaven if you come 17 00:01:24.920 --> 00:01:30.799 to his grave, and et cetera. Ruven from Paris, I 18 00:01:30.840 --> 00:01:32.760 wanted to tell you where there's one more thing about 19 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:35.959 Tomin Hocham. I wanted to tell you. He asked me 20 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:39.400 a number of questions about the word Toma hacham. So 21 00:01:39.840 --> 00:01:44.159 uh I forgot to mention this in the Tishbe. Do 22 00:01:44.200 --> 00:01:45.680 you know what if I don't know, if you guys 23 00:01:45.760 --> 00:01:49.879 know what the tishb is, the tishb is a it's 24 00:01:50.519 --> 00:01:53.680 a levita. He wrote a number of works, including a 25 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:58.640 grammatical work. He wrote the Tishby and other things. Sir, 26 00:01:59.519 --> 00:02:02.879 he has under Talmud Rachem. He asks, why do we 27 00:02:02.959 --> 00:02:06.760 call a stage a talmud Racham. Why don't we just 28 00:02:06.799 --> 00:02:10.280 call him Machacham. The gunar is full of examples Tomud Rachem, 29 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:13.960 and he says something interesting for you, Ruven and everyone else. 30 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:17.000 He says that, well, first of all, he says, he 31 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:20.159 won't He asked a lot about this, and they told him, 32 00:02:20.199 --> 00:02:24.599 of course, it's Merachm, a student of the wise. But 33 00:02:24.680 --> 00:02:26.919 he said other person people explained to it as a 34 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:30.240 Talmada student who became wise, which Kirky isn't correct, because 35 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:32.879 if you look at the buo, it's tell me Demim, 36 00:02:33.199 --> 00:02:36.319 it's not tell me Dirachmin. But he says, as follows. 37 00:02:36.319 --> 00:02:39.639 He has a theory. He says, just like originally in 38 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:44.560 Greece they used to fearch the wise men as sophos wise. 39 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:46.919 Later they thought, he claims this is the reason, I 40 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:48.879 don't know if it is that this was thought to 41 00:02:48.919 --> 00:02:51.719 be giva, so instead of calling them wise men, they 42 00:02:51.759 --> 00:02:56.719 called them philosoph lovers of wisdom. And he says, the 43 00:02:56.759 --> 00:02:59.680 same thing happened. It's it was considered guiva to refer 44 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:02.120 to them as harakam. They didn't want to be called that, 45 00:03:02.560 --> 00:03:06.080 so instead, for modesty, they called themselves students of the wise. 46 00:03:06.360 --> 00:03:11.280 Tell me to ha come maybe the the end of 47 00:03:11.360 --> 00:03:15.759 last class, we were dealing with the naman and uh. 48 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:19.719 If the word yatad is feminine as it is, why 49 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:23.159 is it called why does it refer to as yet nama? 50 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:28.919 The newspaper so borrough called my attention to the hold 51 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:33.719 on a second uh an the Wikipedia and Hebrew, which 52 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:38.080 says that because of the pussock they chose, they picked 53 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:43.560 this pussock Huffbay's huff gim where it says in yshayativ 54 00:03:43.800 --> 00:03:47.400 yaad n'aman, I will fasten him as a plague in 55 00:03:47.439 --> 00:03:49.240 a short place maybe. 56 00:03:49.719 --> 00:03:50.080 Uh. 57 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:54.120 But I said that it's strange that I said it's strange, 58 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:56.680 But I also said I think there's one place where 59 00:03:56.680 --> 00:03:59.759 it is masculine. It turns out I was wrong. The Pussack. 60 00:03:59.800 --> 00:04:03.199 I remembered is as follows. I'll show you why I 61 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:06.439 was wrong too. If you look in at Shaya, chapter 62 00:04:07.439 --> 00:04:10.400 thirty three. It took me a while to find this number. 63 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:16.439 Verse twenty, it says as follows. In verse twenty, it says, 64 00:04:17.360 --> 00:04:22.000 oh heel boutsion bali sa tato to le nezza. So 65 00:04:22.079 --> 00:04:26.680 ohell baltzan means a tent shall not be removed. And 66 00:04:26.759 --> 00:04:30.720 it says ballysa you tato tv le nezza, which a 67 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:33.399 translation is the stakes we're off shall never be pucked up. 68 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:36.519 So I recalled it here. It should say if it's talking, 69 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:40.079 first of all, it should be poro. But I remembered 70 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:42.759 this as being masculine, but it's really not. You have 71 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:44.879 to put you in. I looked in Nadas snicker. You 72 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:47.399 have to put in a man like ballysa a dumb 73 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:51.879 because it's singular. So I can't find any examples of 74 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:56.439 the word yataid that it appears as feminine. Sorry, that 75 00:04:56.519 --> 00:05:00.480 appears as masculine. I mentioned so. So I had a 76 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:03.720 correspond with one of you about the word marcause because 77 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:07.279 I quoted that it been t bone in the back 78 00:05:07.319 --> 00:05:09.360 of the marnavok and he says, this follows about the 79 00:05:09.399 --> 00:05:20.879 word marcause mila aravittauha el that we transferred it to 80 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:25.040 our language for our purposes. However, when I looked at 81 00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:28.439 the Venuta dictionary and lo and behold his father, you 82 00:05:28.480 --> 00:05:30.360 who'd have been t Bone whose picture I showed you, 83 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:35.279 he already shows he already has this word. And I thought, 84 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:37.920 I mean, he mentioned one other source, so we can't 85 00:05:37.959 --> 00:05:41.680 say that schmo Ibn t Bone invented it. He transferred it, 86 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:46.160 but his father used it earlier. Two more points over, 87 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:49.240 shabas Uh. I was reading this book. I just got it, 88 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:52.000 although from the library, although it's already a few years old. 89 00:05:52.079 --> 00:05:56.079 David David Lecherlstein. He's very good both his his his 90 00:05:56.680 --> 00:05:59.480 classes and his classes, his Saturday night things. Although it's 91 00:05:59.480 --> 00:06:02.240 about supposed to be ACA. Very little bit these days 92 00:06:02.480 --> 00:06:05.360 has to do with alaha. But this book, because we 93 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:09.399 spoke about the sherry casks and remotion's hit there the 94 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:13.519 blended whiskey. He has a whole article on this, and 95 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:16.759 he does something. Everyone's arguing back and forth, and he says, 96 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:18.560 I guess he could do it, he could pay for it. 97 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:23.160 He goes, let's send these things. Let's send these whiskeys 98 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:27.079 out to a laboratory and find out how much taste 99 00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:31.600 is actually in there, how much of the wine from 100 00:06:31.680 --> 00:06:34.639 the casks is in there? And you can read this. 101 00:06:34.720 --> 00:06:37.759 This is on page four forty nine. The amount is tiny. 102 00:06:37.879 --> 00:06:41.240 It's not just less than the sixtieth it's less than 103 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:44.240 even six hundredth And he concludes, not that he's a 104 00:06:44.279 --> 00:06:48.120 post sake, but he concludes, in light of these considerations, 105 00:06:48.199 --> 00:06:51.160 it seems clear that there is room to allow sherry 106 00:06:51.240 --> 00:06:55.639 cast scotch without any concern. And he goes on, So 107 00:06:55.720 --> 00:06:59.680 if you're interested in the topic, check it out. And finally, 108 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:07.720 this book I mentioned this is a very expensive book. 109 00:07:07.800 --> 00:07:10.240 This might be the most expensive book I have if 110 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:13.160 it's still that expensive. I've never been one to buy 111 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:15.560 rare books. I have lots of books. If I could 112 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:19.399 pick up this camera, i'd show you, but reprints and 113 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:21.319 I stopped buying so many of the old stuff when 114 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:24.680 we have otzar hofmlherbooks dot Org. As far as i'm 115 00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:28.439 I just want the content. I'm not a collector. This book, however, 116 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:31.519 at least when it went on auction about seven eight 117 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:33.839 years ago, it got up to almost a thousand dollars 118 00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:36.759 I even got it by accident. I ordered it for 119 00:07:37.079 --> 00:07:39.079 my university library. I thought it was gonna be a 120 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:43.160 he geographer, hagiographical type of book. And when it came in, 121 00:07:43.480 --> 00:07:45.319 the books are given to me first I look at 122 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:47.120 them and then we give them to the library. As 123 00:07:47.160 --> 00:07:49.040 soon as I saw it, and I saw this on 124 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:51.519 the cover, and you know what this is over here? 125 00:07:52.680 --> 00:07:56.399 This is Robbie Hyok of Weinberg, taken from the cover 126 00:07:56.560 --> 00:07:58.920 of my book without asking. By the way, the first 127 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:00.600 thing he ever said to me I spoke to him 128 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:04.000 was he apologized for using the picture without asking my permission. Really, 129 00:08:04.040 --> 00:08:07.399 I don't have the copyright. It comes from University of Giesen. Incidentally, 130 00:08:09.319 --> 00:08:12.040 here is just so you know. One day I'm going 131 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:13.839 to do a blog post and I'll identify all the 132 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:15.800 people on the picture here because he doesn't tell you, 133 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:19.800 but this is Revarro and Cutler. Can you see Vira 134 00:08:19.839 --> 00:08:23.439 own there yet he looking very differently than he did 135 00:08:23.480 --> 00:08:27.199 in his later years. So I'll identify who all these 136 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:30.839 people are one day on the front cover. But so 137 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:32.879 when I saw the book and then I start looking 138 00:08:32.960 --> 00:08:34.440 at it, I might I have to keep this. I 139 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:37.799 decided to buy the book for big oys. And and 140 00:08:38.679 --> 00:08:42.399 one of the first things I did is that I 141 00:08:42.960 --> 00:08:44.720 sent an email to a friend of mine. I sat 142 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:46.200 there for like an hour going through it and said, 143 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:47.480 are they gonna put him a here room for this? 144 00:08:47.639 --> 00:08:51.320 Or is as AVOs is the merit of his forefathers 145 00:08:51.399 --> 00:08:54.679 gonna his father, I should say, going to protect him? 146 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:57.000 And my friend who's part of that world, said no, no, 147 00:08:57.120 --> 00:09:01.399 it'll he'll be protected. But he wasn't. I have an essay, 148 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:03.919 actually a long essay on which supposed to coming out 149 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:07.840 soon underness and Kominsk. Now, so I'm mentioning because I 150 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:10.639 said last class that he was put in cheym. Now 151 00:09:10.679 --> 00:09:14.200 he always regarded himself as being in put in, but technically, 152 00:09:14.960 --> 00:09:16.639 when I listened to it, I realized I said that 153 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:19.720 the book was put in. He was not putting a harem. 154 00:09:19.759 --> 00:09:25.240 Although if there was a call from a Michal uh uh, 155 00:09:25.759 --> 00:09:29.879 what's his name became, uh Michal to put him in Haram, 156 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:33.960 but he never was. Now, while while I'm speaking to 157 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:35.639 about this, I can show you this book. I don't 158 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:38.039 know if any of you have seen this book. This 159 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:41.720 book you couldn't get anatomy of a band. This came 160 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:44.120 out within a year of making of a goddle. It's 161 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:49.679 his personal description of everything that happened he This was 162 00:09:49.799 --> 00:09:52.519 never sold in the stores. This was only given in 163 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:55.080 person when you came to him. If he chose to 164 00:09:55.080 --> 00:09:58.000 give it to you. Here you could see where it says. Here, 165 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:00.720 let's see. I don't know how well you can read it. 166 00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:04.120 Give him by the author to doctor Mark Shapiro, and 167 00:10:04.399 --> 00:10:08.080 it gives the date December twenty fourth. Oh I wasn't 168 00:10:08.600 --> 00:10:11.159 hold on. I gotta show you this. I wasn't even 169 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:14.159 showing you hold on. Oh yeah, I actually I was 170 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:20.200 showing you yeah, in December twenty fourth, two thousand and three, Anatomy. 171 00:10:19.759 --> 00:10:20.559 Of a Band. 172 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:23.840 Now, he asked me what to do with this book 173 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:27.360 because he didn't want to be putting. He didn't want 174 00:10:27.399 --> 00:10:28.919 it to be put in a harem, and he personally 175 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:30.480 didn't want to be put in a harem. He's different 176 00:10:30.519 --> 00:10:34.279 than the other Nusson, notson' Sliffkin, notson Sliffkin. When his 177 00:10:34.360 --> 00:10:38.000 books are put to her, and he responded, and that 178 00:10:38.320 --> 00:10:40.679 meant he had to leave that world. Notsson. Kameneski wanted 179 00:10:40.720 --> 00:10:42.679 to remain in that world, so he couldn't publicly go 180 00:10:42.799 --> 00:10:45.480 against it, but privately he did. I told him he 181 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:49.159 should give it to the National Library in Jerusalem and 182 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:52.200 keep it closed for twenty five years and then open 183 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:54.200 it up to everyone. And he said he was going 184 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:56.000 to do that, but I just checked this morning and 185 00:10:56.039 --> 00:10:58.120 apparently he didn't do that. Because at least if the 186 00:10:58.759 --> 00:11:01.759 if the website is correct, anyone can see this book. 187 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:04.960 You could just go to the National Library and order it. 188 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:07.519 And the idea that he said he agreed with me 189 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:11.519 keeping it embargoed for twenty five years, you know what, 190 00:11:12.360 --> 00:11:15.080 I take the hit. Maybe the agreement was twenty five 191 00:11:15.200 --> 00:11:18.200 years or upon his passing, and that's why now you 192 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:21.639 could see it, because he specifically told me it would 193 00:11:21.639 --> 00:11:24.759 be Uh. He liked that idea. But anyone who's interested 194 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:29.279 in reading anatomy of a band you can read that. 195 00:11:29.559 --> 00:11:34.080 So okay, friends, we are here now. This is the 196 00:11:34.200 --> 00:11:38.559 fortieth class. I feel like we've been together. It's a 197 00:11:38.639 --> 00:11:44.879 long time and we've done great things. I'm going away 198 00:11:44.919 --> 00:11:51.039 for Paysach and one of the talks in America. We 199 00:11:51.120 --> 00:11:53.639 can do that, many of us. One of the talks 200 00:11:53.919 --> 00:11:58.399 is the making of my latest book, A thirty Year Story, 201 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:01.879 but that's in forty five minutes. Yes, so to do 202 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:04.120 it in forty five minutes, you've got it, and just 203 00:12:04.200 --> 00:12:08.639 count the hours. Now we're forty hours and going strong. 204 00:12:08.879 --> 00:12:12.279 So I calculated another fifteen classes. But we have as always, 205 00:12:12.360 --> 00:12:16.720 we got interesting stuff, usual stuff, great stuff. Today I 206 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:20.080 want to pick up however, right in the middle, we're 207 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:24.559 in the middle of Simon Kouffman Olif. Right at the end, 208 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:29.960 Simon Kufman Olif ends in on page three oh two. 209 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:33.279 There were a couple points to finish off the chuva. 210 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:36.000 One thing I forgot to mention which I wanted to 211 00:12:36.039 --> 00:12:38.960 come back to in the chuva about the word mosciele. 212 00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:42.679 We spoke about moscile and we saw that Rabbi Mazous said, 213 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:45.440 and we're going to focus again to dis Cliin will 214 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:49.639 also be on Rabbi Mazous, and thank you enough, Tully. 215 00:12:49.759 --> 00:12:53.039 He sent me from Yeshiva World News that Rabbi Mazous 216 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:56.840 made even the English language Claraiti news today was yesterday 217 00:12:57.240 --> 00:13:00.279 because he ordered that in all of his colo he 218 00:13:00.320 --> 00:13:01.399 has a bunch of col els. 219 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:01.679 Uh. 220 00:13:02.039 --> 00:13:05.559 Everyone needs to be vaccinated, so not such a rish 221 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:10.039 but they wanted to report it the word moscule, So 222 00:13:10.360 --> 00:13:13.000 you still have Remenazous says that in this farda world 223 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:15.440 moscule is not a negative thing, and we quoted examples 224 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:19.399 from the Psukim. Now let me show you something really interesting, 225 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:21.559 I think or some of you might find it interesting 226 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:30.440 that was pointed out by a real moscule, namely Reball. 227 00:13:32.279 --> 00:13:35.879 It's not it's not like Levinson. It's not barre Lebinson. 228 00:13:36.720 --> 00:13:39.320 He wrote to Wsrel and many other works. He pointed 229 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:42.639 out as follows that it's very strange that the zoar 230 00:13:42.720 --> 00:13:46.440 here's the first page of the zoar. He said, Really 231 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:50.759 the zoar should be called musculium or moscule. Why because 232 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:52.480 right at the beginning it has the puss suck that 233 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:56.960 we saw moscille Yes, herocozo Hirakia, and we have Midrashimer 234 00:13:57.000 --> 00:13:58.600 done this way. And also look at the ba here. 235 00:13:58.840 --> 00:14:02.240 Hold on, here's the ba here. The bay here begins, 236 00:14:02.279 --> 00:14:05.399 I'm Revna Junakana. Then it says he quotes the puss 237 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:11.279 lora or by here. Who didn't h where's this is? Eov? 238 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:14.440 Hold on, where's the puzzle? And Eova, I'll show you 239 00:14:14.519 --> 00:14:19.120 the pussic the bay here quotes it's EO thirty seven 240 00:14:19.240 --> 00:14:23.840 twenty one. Here you go uh bye hero basa rakim. 241 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:26.440 So that's why they call it the ba here. So 242 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:30.240 really you said the zoar should be called uh a 243 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:34.120 musculium or muscular or something. But he explains that the 244 00:14:34.240 --> 00:14:37.759 idea of zoar brightness shining, and even to this day 245 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:41.279 this far either called torah or may year, all these things. 246 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:44.879 So that's why it broke with what you would expect 247 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:47.559 to call it from the pussle. Incidentally, what you're looking 248 00:14:47.600 --> 00:14:50.080 at in the zoar here is a bra she's but 249 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:52.720 this is not the beginning of the zoar. The zoor 250 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:56.480 has a hakdama an introduction, and if you look in 251 00:14:56.559 --> 00:14:59.440 the Besomi roche right at the beginning of the summing row, 252 00:14:59.600 --> 00:15:02.120 she meant. He just alludes to it. That believe or 253 00:15:02.200 --> 00:15:05.600 Yaka Vemda doesn't mention this that he says that, well, 254 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:08.279 we know that ton of itch works never have introductions. 255 00:15:08.799 --> 00:15:11.639 There's no huk damah, so we sort of says this 256 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:14.159 is uh. He doesn't sort of. He says, this is 257 00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:18.279 a proof to what my relative Yaka Renden said that 258 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:22.399 at least this part couldn't be uh medieval. Okay, the 259 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:24.039 last two things I wanted to call your attention to 260 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:27.960 in the Chuva is in my literature of Massou's. I 261 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:32.200 mentioned two things in a note that he replied to, 262 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:37.960 and that's remember we were speaking about Musculie, and I said, well, 263 00:15:38.720 --> 00:15:42.480 in Lithuania, mosculo is one who was interested in history 264 00:15:42.879 --> 00:15:45.480 and dictu. But you're still a religious Jew. And I 265 00:15:45.559 --> 00:15:48.799 gave example of mantis Astrasa, and I said, even perhaps 266 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:52.799 for Schmulstrascha, the famous Rashash who's I just heard a 267 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:56.440 she er from Raschefter. Raschechter said something interesting. He said, 268 00:15:56.440 --> 00:15:59.600 today no one learns Marsha, but they all love them rashash, 269 00:15:59.679 --> 00:16:03.399 and never one loves I love Rushash, and every I 270 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:04.960 wear in gamar, I like to look in the back 271 00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:09.799 because he always has interesting things. But the rashash says something. Well, 272 00:16:09.919 --> 00:16:12.399 let me show you what he says. Here, let me 273 00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:18.679 pull it out for a second tier. Where is my gamara? 274 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:19.000 Here? 275 00:16:19.159 --> 00:16:27.159 I have a page. Oh, there is the gamara says 276 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:32.480 as follows in bob Metcia. And this is found in 277 00:16:32.519 --> 00:16:34.320 all your gamar's. As far as I know, they haven't 278 00:16:34.360 --> 00:16:37.600 removed it. At least they haven't removed the Rashash. Here's 279 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:43.080 the gamara. It says, well, greedy English. Here this is 280 00:16:43.759 --> 00:16:46.960 one O seven A. It says, blessed shall you be 281 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:49.679 when you enter, and blessed shall you be when you exit? 282 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:56.799 What does it mean? Your exit from the world should 283 00:16:56.840 --> 00:17:02.279 be just like your entry into the world. What does 284 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:07.559 that mobius? Just like your entry, your entry to the 285 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:08.920 world is without sin? 286 00:17:10.680 --> 00:17:11.839 You know, uh. 287 00:17:13.920 --> 00:17:17.240 So to uh your so the saying bus are you 288 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:19.200 and you anwer bus and your exit just as you 289 00:17:19.359 --> 00:17:22.319 enter without sin, so to your exition without sin? Well, 290 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:25.319 the Rashash says this follows if Yo get his commentary 291 00:17:25.720 --> 00:17:29.279 mikaon stier a kasat lo bali dosa gilgol. He says, 292 00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:31.599 this appears to be a little bit of a contradiction 293 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:35.839 to the people who hold the notion of the reincarnation. 294 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:38.799 Now he says, sas, because so what does it says, 295 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:41.160 just like you came in without sin, so to you 296 00:17:41.279 --> 00:17:44.000 leave without sin? Because really, the people who believe in 297 00:17:44.039 --> 00:17:46.640 Gilga reincarnation, they don't say that you actually have a 298 00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:49.559 sin upon you. What they say is that you come 299 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:51.519 back to this earth on account of a sin in 300 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:54.519 a previous lifetime. So that's why he's saying kasas. But 301 00:17:54.599 --> 00:17:57.519 he still is expressed it's clear that he doesn't believe. 302 00:17:57.519 --> 00:17:59.960 It's a dogmatic thing. Now, this idea of gilgl reincarnate. 303 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:03.200 I think most people in our circles, if you're not 304 00:18:03.279 --> 00:18:05.720 in Akoumbo, you look at it as a little strange. 305 00:18:05.799 --> 00:18:07.599 But it shouldn't be strange. First of all, it's a 306 00:18:07.640 --> 00:18:11.920 belief held on the entire in India, for instance, and 307 00:18:12.039 --> 00:18:14.319 not just you know all the religions that come from India. 308 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:18.640 You have Buddhism. Buddhism comes from Indian Incidentally, long before 309 00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:20.519 it came to China Japan, there was an India. It 310 00:18:20.559 --> 00:18:23.079 was an India for a very long time. And it's 311 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:25.640 only come back in the twentieth centurily in any numbers 312 00:18:25.720 --> 00:18:29.680 because of the Dia Lama comes to Daram Shallow when 313 00:18:29.720 --> 00:18:37.279 he escapes from China. Also the Karmapa Aama. But the 314 00:18:37.559 --> 00:18:41.039 U that's right near there in the north arm Shallow, 315 00:18:41.079 --> 00:18:44.599 the Hbad has like the biggest satyr of the year 316 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:47.480 they have there, or Katmandu. It's it's an incredible place 317 00:18:47.519 --> 00:18:49.680 if you can ever go there, believe it or not. 318 00:18:49.799 --> 00:18:53.839 I flew there. I went there in twenty seventeen. Lo 319 00:18:53.920 --> 00:18:56.240 and behold, I mean you think that wherever you never 320 00:18:56.359 --> 00:18:59.319 meet a Jew, at least an identifying Jew. 321 00:18:59.400 --> 00:18:59.559 There. 322 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:02.039 Lo and behold, I'm staying in a hotel Kivun. There's 323 00:19:02.039 --> 00:19:05.440 a thing called Kivu Nime. It's very expensive and non 324 00:19:05.559 --> 00:19:07.920 Orthodox kids are mostly non eu Thirsts. They traveled the world. 325 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:10.279 They were in my little hotel. But more than that, 326 00:19:10.519 --> 00:19:14.799 right near Dharamshaha, there's a village that's only open in 327 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:19.519 the uh, not in the like. From like after Pesach April, 328 00:19:19.599 --> 00:19:24.279 I guess until October, there's hebrewriting everywhere. It becomes a 329 00:19:24.359 --> 00:19:27.519 complete Israeli village. And there's a Kbat house there too 330 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:29.960 that looks just like seven to seventy the Kabbad. No 331 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:33.519 people nowhere to go, they're all set up there. But 332 00:19:33.680 --> 00:19:36.839 so Gylgel was found. The James have Gilgel, the Hindus 333 00:19:36.839 --> 00:19:40.759 obviously the reincarnation, and in Judaism we have it also. 334 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:44.480 It's not just in Judaism. This is an essential feature 335 00:19:44.559 --> 00:19:47.359 for Makuboli. They think it is a basic belief. Now 336 00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:50.440 it's true. Rasadyago and rejected it. Many others rejected it. 337 00:19:51.240 --> 00:19:53.240 So it's a machrocus. But to say that it's not 338 00:19:53.359 --> 00:19:56.359 a Jewish belief, it is it is. It's definitely a 339 00:19:56.480 --> 00:20:01.359 Jewish belief. But the rashash says that at least Peters 340 00:20:01.839 --> 00:20:05.640 that the Talma doesn't hold of it. Incidentally, Eli Mosig, 341 00:20:06.039 --> 00:20:09.400 he explained the passage the idea that Eliel was pinchas, 342 00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:13.240 which I don't know what it means originally. I don't 343 00:20:13.240 --> 00:20:15.519 think it means literally maybe had the traits or something. 344 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:18.559 But elb Mosig, who we had classes on, you can 345 00:20:18.599 --> 00:20:20.400 go to the old toy emotion. He claims that this 346 00:20:20.519 --> 00:20:23.640 is Gilgel, that that's what the and when the Gamara 347 00:20:23.720 --> 00:20:26.440 identifies different people, this is a trait in the Gamar 348 00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:29.039 or midrash. You might have noticed it. It's uh the 349 00:20:29.359 --> 00:20:32.720 I call it the conservation of personalities, that you always 350 00:20:32.759 --> 00:20:34.519 have one person in the Midrash says it it's just 351 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:40.079 an esther. What do they say, Harbona, is that what 352 00:20:40.200 --> 00:20:44.319 they say? It's I think it's in the maybe it's 353 00:20:44.359 --> 00:20:46.440 in a targum Shane. He says, it's really done. Mel 354 00:20:46.599 --> 00:20:50.119 I mean they you always have all these identifications where people, uh, 355 00:20:50.599 --> 00:20:52.799 they have one name, but they mean someone else. And 356 00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:56.599 Eliobana Mosig thinks this is referring to Gilgel. That when 357 00:20:56.599 --> 00:20:59.000 it says that this person is really this person or 358 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:02.680 you see this a lot in midrash if. I don't 359 00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:04.599 think it's a vern to Gyogo, but that's what he says. 360 00:21:05.400 --> 00:21:12.119 So I said to Rabbi Mazouz, that reflined Konnievsky genius 361 00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:19.440 of genius well in terms of knowledge content, I don't 362 00:21:19.440 --> 00:21:22.039 know in terms of coming up with the new conceptions 363 00:21:22.119 --> 00:21:24.359 or things like that, like or self agent type genius, 364 00:21:24.599 --> 00:21:27.759 but a photographic memory like no one else we have today. 365 00:21:28.319 --> 00:21:31.359 He claims that the rashash count have written this because 366 00:21:31.359 --> 00:21:34.160 the Rasasha isn't a muscule. It had to be uh, 367 00:21:34.440 --> 00:21:39.839 his son. He must have put it in there because 368 00:21:39.880 --> 00:21:42.559 we know he's a muscule and therefore not so kosher. 369 00:21:42.599 --> 00:21:44.200 He forged it in the name of his father. So 370 00:21:44.200 --> 00:21:46.240 I write to my Rabbi mazous First of all, this 371 00:21:46.319 --> 00:21:48.400 makes no sense, leaving a part the fact that the 372 00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:52.720 Rashasha was from a Lithuanian perspective, you look at him 373 00:21:52.720 --> 00:21:55.359 as somewhat of a muscule also, But this is published 374 00:21:55.400 --> 00:21:58.559 in the Rashasha's lifetime. The Rashasha it was he put 375 00:21:58.599 --> 00:22:01.480 it out of his lifetime forgetting the fact that of 376 00:22:01.599 --> 00:22:04.880 the menstis Jastrasha will never say something in uh you know, 377 00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:07.160 for it's something the named his father. The this is 378 00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:10.200 published in his lifetime, so it clearly can't be true. 379 00:22:10.559 --> 00:22:14.079 And Rabbi Mazuza agrees with me and doesn't make any sense. 380 00:22:14.200 --> 00:22:19.720 But then I say his follows about Goyogol review to 381 00:22:19.880 --> 00:22:25.559 Mudna Leon Mudna, the Rabbi of Venice. We've spoken about 382 00:22:25.599 --> 00:22:27.000 him a number of times. Those that came with me 383 00:22:27.039 --> 00:22:29.799 to ely remember. Although he was the one of the 384 00:22:29.880 --> 00:22:32.160 rabunnim in Venice, he has shows and shuvos. He was 385 00:22:32.200 --> 00:22:34.200 a bit of a strange character. He had a game. 386 00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:36.680 He was a gambler. He wrote an obiography. We know 387 00:22:36.759 --> 00:22:39.400 that people who write autobiographies are unusual. We spoke at 388 00:22:39.519 --> 00:22:44.559 Yakov Emden and the Adaris and uh Uh, the Bori Epstein, 389 00:22:44.599 --> 00:22:47.839 the Taratamima and Mudna and Mudna tell us about how 390 00:22:47.880 --> 00:22:49.920 he was addicted to gamble. He had like twenty four 391 00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:52.240 different jobs. He told us. He gave us all this 392 00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:58.359 stuff and uh. The Rida says as follows. The doc claims, well, 393 00:22:58.480 --> 00:23:00.240 it's I claims he does. If he says it, he's 394 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:04.799 say he did. Rida was very Medoctic on things. He's 395 00:23:05.319 --> 00:23:09.720 tells us that he saw a manuscript of Mudna where 396 00:23:10.480 --> 00:23:14.160 there was a little child who was sick, six months old. 397 00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:18.079 The child was deathly ill. So Madna Mudna came to 398 00:23:18.240 --> 00:23:22.279 dupsuk him. Incidentally, young Kipper Cotton. There's a peal that 399 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:25.599 is said by Hasidim and others. It's by Mudna. He 400 00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:30.319 came to resuk him to him when his uh person 401 00:23:30.440 --> 00:23:32.920