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Speaker 1: I'll start to what you want to present some off

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the bench with Jacob Hester and T Bob Abert. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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yeah yeah, off the bench with Jacob Hester and T

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Speaker 2: I got to come off the pitch.

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Speaker 1: Now here's Jacob Hester and T Bob aber.

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Speaker 3: Talking to w w L legend my guy, Tommy Tucka

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right here man who you Oh, River's got Tommy's number.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: So I started, uh I three w L. There's a

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sister station over there doing a morning show, a Christian Garrett.

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But Tommy has always been the eight to seventy morning

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show guy. And so you know, if you ever listen

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to L, it's new sports and everything, so you wou'd

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have like these like eight nine minute breaks at the

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top of the hour for news and you know, CBA

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and everything else. And so my lasting memories of Tommy

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are me being in the bath room install and him

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being in the stall next to me, and him just

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being very complimentary as and and gassing me up as

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a young radio man as we did whatever install the stall,

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as we did whatever people do in the bathroom stalls.

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Very good, very good early memories from Mike, like you.

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Speaker 2: Talk to us through the door still, which I.

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Speaker 3: Hate, which I hate, But y'all talk about me sometimes,

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and so I just want to make sure, like I

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know this that me and.

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Speaker 2: My wife had talked about a lot.

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Speaker 3: I know that everybody talks about people behind their back,

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especially with your significant other, right, and but this is

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nothing like it's nothing bad. I think it's the most

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normal thing in the world. It's very cool. But I

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never want to hear what you're saying behind my back,

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like ignorance is bliss. We're cool, we're friends. How do

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we enact face to face? I know you care about me.

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It's all good, like, yeah, every body when you're with

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your other.

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Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I'll just let everybody in his life, no,

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he talks ish about you, you don't think, Okay, okay, okay, okay,

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that's cool glass okay.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, so y'all, so you can't put it out

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to see y'll never.

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Speaker 2: Exactly that's what.

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Speaker 3: But I'm just living honest. I'm just living honest out here.

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I don't know all are If y'all are denying this,

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you know you're lying.

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Speaker 5: You know it, don't lie not on radio row.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I do feel like like if all the

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people in my life, like you get probably the least

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amount of shade.

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Speaker 3: No again, it's not even I'm not even talking about no, no,

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Speaker 4: Just talking about people, Yeah, talking about it.

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Speaker 3: But I never want to hear what's said about me.

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when I'm in the bathroom, I yell at him to stop,

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because I don't want to know, Like I want Taylor

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to feel comfortable, to be able to complain about me

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or make a joke about how I looked fat that

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day or it look stupid. I just don't want to

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hear it, you know, if you're just plus. But again,

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I actually hate talking in the bathroom. But Tommy was

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always so nice that I accepted it. But that's why

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yell at y'all at the hallway back. That's a long

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explanation where I exposed a lot for no reason.

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Speaker 2: But that's ah, that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I guess guys, all right, Hour two in the books, Jake,

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are now two starting off here? Jake, how's your Felt

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Speaker 2: It's good, it's good, It's it's done. It's done. It's done.

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Speaker 3: So the goal of his felt Tip project as Jake seven,

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there has never been a three P champion.

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Speaker 2: Nope, nine times. I believe we've had back to back?

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Speaker 3: Okay nine times at back to back champions. Jake has

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collated the information. What did those back to back teams

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do in year number three? As the Chiefs are the

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first to ever make it for a third year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah they are, which is wild.

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Speaker 4: So Green Bay they went super Bowl one and two,

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was the guy overrated?

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Speaker 2: I think that has a coach year he's beaten twelvek.

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Speaker 6: Now, super Bowls beaten twelve teams go out of here, plumbers,

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plumbers and electricians.

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the Vikings. The Dolphins when eleven and three they lost

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Speaker 2: I believe that was actually in New World twenty seven

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Pittsburgh went nine and seven, no playoffs that year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just going let's you just do the whole page.

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Speaker 4: You do the whole Yeah, it's like six and ten

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or something. That's done of gonna lasted so long obviously. Alright,

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when Buffalo missed the kick. So Giants won twenty to nineteen.

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the NFC Championship game. Shows you how hard it is, man.

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chance and the Giants breakthrough managed to beat you and

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go on to win the Super Bowl. All right, So

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forty nine to twenty six over my bush League Bolts,

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the only time the Chargers ever made the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Front office moves.

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Speaker 3: That's when free agency was new, and that was when

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the Niners went all in. They added Richard Dent, they

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Speaker 3: They they drafted Bright. But whatever, the point is, like

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they get and they charged past the Cowboys. How depressing

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is this? So the Eagles made three Super Bowls of War.

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made for Bill row we didn't get one.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, that that bo that's gotta pain you.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that was twenty three sixteen. They get stopped

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Speaker 2: Yes I was. I was. I was a big Falcons

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Speaker 3: I'll never forget the NFC Championship where it's a fifteen

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and one Vikings team with Randall Cunningham, Chris Carter and

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Speaker 2: Was perfect on the year.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and then missed the game winning kick and

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Morton Anderson shout out to the legend. Uh not when

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he got the opportunity and he sent the Falcons to

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Speaker 2: But that's when the.

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Speaker 3: Cow or the Broncos underdog's year one against the Packers,

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big upset. Then they come back the next year and

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lay finally has his Super Bowl MVP. He dominates the game,

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he rides off into the sunset, and Bubby Brister.

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Speaker 4: Couldn't bring him back to next year. No, they were

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six and ten, Yeah, six and ten. No playoffs for

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the Denver Broncos at fourteen and two. Yeah, after winning

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back to back Super Bowls. Oof, Now we're on the Patriots.

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thirty two to twenty nine over the Panthers in twenty four,

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twenty one, super Bowl thirty nine over a member Is

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Speaker 2: So that would that.

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Speaker 2: I feel like ten.

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Speaker 4: And then of course we are here Kansas City, winners

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of Super Bowl fifty seven and fifty eight, thirty eight,

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thirty five over Philly and then twenty five to twenty

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two over San Francisco, and they are going for a

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Speaker 2: Looking to be the first to ever do it.

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Speaker 3: So history on the line this week in New Orleans,

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all right. I also, though I know that we rarely

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talk about I know that we rarely talk about the

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NBA on the show, especially because the Pelicans have been

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so god awful this year as to barely warrant any

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coverage whatsoever. But this Luka don chis trade. And there

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is a New Orleans TI here because it's got a

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d involved a bit, But this Luka don Chid trade, Jake,

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I've never seen anything like it.

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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. Yeah, how it happened?

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Speaker 4: Who had in the middle of the night evolves and

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Speaker 3: I mean, a twenty five year old who is a

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five time first team All NBA member traded for an

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oft injured thirty one year old who is still awesome

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but appears to be past his front. Rarely do you

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see a team, I know of teams moving on from

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aging superstars. I have never seen a team move on

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from a current budding young superstar that's only getting better

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and that it's fresh off of an NBA Finals appearance

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like it wasn't like like this isn't like a situation

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know he's awesome, but the wins just aren't there. The

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wins can't get there. You were in the finals last

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year because of Luka Doncic, and you trade him and

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you don't get much in return. You get ad Max

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Christy and one first round pick. They give those teams

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Speaker 5: The NBA, and you only got one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you give up Lukadancic, who again isn't

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just a great player, he's young all that, but also

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like the heart and soul of the franchise, in the

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city of the team, I've never seen anything like it,

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is very much challenging Lukadancic, Like he basically told him,

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we didn't want to give you the super Max. We

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don't trust you. We'd rather move on and go to

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a D who again is always injured as.

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Speaker 2: Well, like literally always this.

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Speaker 4: I mean, sure, there can be a beef and there

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can be you know, disappointment from front office and a.

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Speaker 2: Player, but it's it's a Luca.

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Speaker 4: You don't think that if you open that up and

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made that a story of hey, he's available, that you

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could have gotten more than a D A bench player

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and a first round pick that's probably not going to

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be that great anyway. It's gonna be like twenty something

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and you're gonna get some guard from Saint Mary's. Like

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why not open it up? Like they said, this is

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the only team they talked with. What I know, like,

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if you open that up, you're gonna have great offers.

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Speaker 3: Really high on ad Here's what Nico Harrison.

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Speaker 2: These are a few quotes on a read.

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Speaker 3: Here's what Nico Harrison had to say about the trade, quote,

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as we turn the page, I think it's important to

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know that Jason Kidd and I we've had a vision.

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And by the way, the context here, Kid was also

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told in the eleventh.

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Speaker 2: Hour about this trade. He's putting on a brave face.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know that I would appreciate if I

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was Kid being kind of lumped into this. But as

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we turned the page, I think it's important to the

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James Kid and I we had a vision and the

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culture that we want to create since we've been here.

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The players that we're bringing in we believe exemplify that.

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We think defense wins championships, and we're bringing in one

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of the best two way players in the league. So

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already there again, you were just in the championship, and

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beyond that, you're saying that, yeah, we don't think Luca's

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good enough defensively to be able to your challenge him

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in that way. He goes on to say, quote, well,

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let's be clear, I'm the one making the decision and

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kids supportive of it. So it's me. And here's what

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he gets really confident. He says, I don't do anything

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that's scary I think everything that we do we put

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a lot of work into. We study it, and we

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restudy it, and we go back. I understand the magnitude

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of it. The easiest thing for me to do is

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to do nothing, and everyone would praise me for doing nothing,

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but really we believe in it, and time will tell

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if I'm right. I mean, so here, you've traded Luka

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Doncic and you have publicly told him it's because we

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don't trust him, we don't think he's good enough. And

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I'm betting my career on the fact that I'm out.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is some.

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Speaker 3: Jerry Krause from Last Dance level of self involvement from

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Nico here.

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Speaker 4: Oh he better hope that's like that they make a

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run at least one.

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Speaker 2: They gotta get one.

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Speaker 3: If they don't get a ring, this will go down

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as maybe the worst trade of all time.

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Speaker 4: I mean minimum, They got to get back to the finals,

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it feels like, and they don't feel like a finals

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team right now. They were just there. I don't know

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how you justified it. It's gonna be incredibly hard to do,

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so I don't think they get it done. And poor

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Jason kid, you could tell he got told in the

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eleventh I mean he might have gone to the twelfth hour. Yeah,

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driving got told in the eleventh hour. He looked upset.

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He tried to put on, like you said, a brave face,

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but you could tell its written all over his face.

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You just got rid of a generational player. For a

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thirty two year old, it's always hurt.

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Speaker 3: And apparently it's because the Mavericks were worried about giving

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Doncic the Supermax, citing conditioning concerns. And then you go

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into the rumor MILLI step lower and they're talking about

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him drinking beer before games and maybe they smoking a

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couple of darts and heaters. But guys, guess what, he's European.

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Okay here in European.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta let him do what.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna do.

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Speaker 3: Also, beyond that, what do you think Michael was doing

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back in the day, I mean, famous for his partying ways,

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smoking cigars before the games like this, this is overthinking

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it to the point of being dumb in my opinion. Also, Jake,

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you want to talk about motivating Luka Doncic, so he

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would have been eligible for a five year, three hundred

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and forty five million dollars.

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Speaker 5: Supermax from Dallas three forty five.

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Speaker 3: Now due to this trade, five years two twenty nine

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is the max that he can get, which I mean, again, guys,

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only two twenty nine. I get it, stupid right either way,

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but they literally took over one hundred million dollars out

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of his pocket.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, by making this move. Yeah, and I don't care

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how much money you got, you gonna feel that one. Yeah,

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Like that's gonna sting.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if nothing else, for a competitor like that

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at the most elite level, it's gonna piss you off

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and make you very motivated to prove them wrong. Is

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if you already weren't incredibly motivated.

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Speaker 4: And now we got to watch the Lakers probably go

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out there and thrive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, for the Lebron conspiracy theorists, this has

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gotta be the most fertile ground that you could possibly imagine, right,

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the NBA trying to keep the Lakers relevant, trying to

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keep Lebron relevant. Where's David Stern when you need him

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to veto a trade? Come on, David, that only happens here.

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Come out of retirement.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But uh, I've just I've never seen I've never seen

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anything like it, and again it better pay off. It

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better pay off that first round pick two? Is it

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until twenty twenty nine.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, David Stern's passed away, so he can't come out

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of retirement.

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Speaker 3: But somebody did, Uh, well come out of hell then

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whatever heaven, whatever Hell's a will aggressive.

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Speaker 2: That's that seems really agressive.

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Speaker 5: David Stern always reminded me of John Lovett's.

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Speaker 3: He did have a John Lovitz. They were always one

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and the same to me. Oh, that's a good point

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by Nookie too.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 3: The two hundred and twenty nine million comes with thirteen

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percent state tax, which he had not which he would

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not have had on the three that so even so yeah,

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so again got the number knockdown and has the Cali

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taxes versus Texas.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable trade.

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Speaker 4: You just pulled, like poor David Stern, like you major league,

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you know, the first one when they're putting the spring

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training roster together and it's.

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Speaker 2: Like this guy here's dead. He's like, we'll cross him

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off there. You just did that to David Stern.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my fav that.

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Speaker 2: That's Uh.

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Speaker 3: I saw a very funny gift of some anime where

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there's some demons walking out of the flames, and it's

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like David Stern coming out of hell to to deny

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the trade. I didn't realize who's actually dead, so recipes

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David thurn Man. Yeah, I don't really have much say

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about you, but you know, you look like John Lovetz

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to me. And I find anybody who looks like John

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Lovitz or gives me a John Lovetz vibe, I find

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that that makes me happy. Who does it like John

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lovettz uh Yeah, So shout out to the Lakers out

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what a coup. It is weird though, to close this

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with a little bit of a New Orleans twist, Jake,

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I think this is really done by the Mavericks. But

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at the same time, it does make me question how

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in the hell is Dallas willing to make a move

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like this and you still have Brandon Ingram on your team,

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and you still have Zion Williamson on team like It

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makes your inaction look even crazier, even if this is an.

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Speaker 2: Absurd move from Dallas.

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Speaker 4: And the Spurs made a move too, and that was

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one of the landing spots for Bi yep, And so

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now that's not even really going to be on the

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table because they got their guard fox from from Sacramento,

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and so that was probably one of your better options

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as far as a trade partner.

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Speaker 2: And so that's gone.

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Speaker 4: So not only are you sitting on your player, other

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teams around you are making moves for a player that

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you know probably could.

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Speaker 2: Have found himself in San Antonio. So yeah, it's bad

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on all fronts.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's give the guys back home a chance real quick. Taylor,

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you first, I see your comment here in the YouTube chat.

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Bring it on air. You've done some math about the

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durability of Ad and Luca.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so you know, the MAVs are talking about, oh,

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we're concerned about Luca's conditioning, which I think is a

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load of crap.

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Speaker 2: I think they made that up.

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Speaker 7: Luka Doncic has played in eighty one percent of his games.

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Anthony Davis only played in seventy six of his games,

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and he's six years older. So if you're worried about

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conditioning there, you just took multiple steps back. Also, you

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were talking about Jason Kidd being in the dark. Nico Harrison,

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a report came out. He went to the majority owner

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of the Mavericks sent out this trade idea to him.

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Speaker 2: The owner laughed in his face.

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Speaker 7: He went behind the owner's back, made this trade anyway,

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as well as keeping Jason Kidd in the dark. He

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put his entire career on the line for this move.

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Speaker 3: Bro Nico Harrison believes in some Nico Harrison that's insane. Uh.

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And then Elandra, I'll open it up to you, as

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the Spurs essentially get de Aaron Fox for nothing. You now, Wimby,

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you pair him with Fox. How are we feeling in

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Spurs Country?

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Speaker 2: Alandra?

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Speaker 8: So over here in Spurs Country, we're feeling great. We

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got out of this trade deadline pretty much unscathed. Then

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I would say we won the trade dead light. Well,

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I guess obviously the Lakers did, but like it just

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outside of the Lakers. Yes, we won this trade deadline,

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but I think it's the the dumbest move that I've

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ever seen in my life to trade Luca for uh

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street clothes.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're sitting here talking about how you know,

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if nothing else, you just got to keep Zion and

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just live or die with him because you don't want

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him to go to another team and have that meteoric rise.

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And they had somebody who's infinitely better than Zion and

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they just gave him up for one first round pick.

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Speaker 4: An aging player, a bench player in a first round

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pick is wild. And I mean Luca. They also gave

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another player back to the Lakers. And it wasn't just Luca.

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I mean, hmm.

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Speaker 7: They gave up. So they gave up MARKI. They gave

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up Markis Morris and Maxi Kleeber and guys. Maxie Kleeber

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is not a slouch like he is a solid post player.

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Speaker 5: And the Lakers and needed a solid.

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Speaker 7: Post player when they got rid of Anthony Davis, like

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they they dominated the street.

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Speaker 3: It's it's, it's, it's it's it's honestly again, how it

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happened middle of the night, the everybody thinking that Shams

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had gotten hacked.

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Speaker 2: Everybody shocked.

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Speaker 3: There's like videos of NBA players reacting on the bench like.

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Speaker 4: What like they had their phones out on the bench,

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like the Suns had their phones out.

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Speaker 3: Look man like people hate cigarettes, you know, especially I

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guess if you're an NBA player, insane insane move very interested.

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Oh and yeah, Luca, think Dallas, ad think la A.

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D is still not think New Orleans, nor will he ever,

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So you might as well stop hoping for anyway, crazy

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crazy NBA tread dune.

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Speaker 2: But when we get.

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Speaker 3: Back, we got some local LSU new some big recruits

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coming in.

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Speaker 5: Also, we're gonna talk to Brits.

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Speaker 3: Kubina, beat writer from the Athletic for the Philadelphia Eagles

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coming up here in a little bit, get some Eagles insight,

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and we're gonna send Jake off to his Super Bowl

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radio show. So keep it locked right here on off

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the bench.

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Speaker 2: Off the bench, go to all.

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to be here. We have sent Jake off to the

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Super Bowl. We got Brooks here. But real quick, massive news, guys.

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That's right, the seventh ra eight con mid market local

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morning sports talk show in the country. Like I said,

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I'm very happy with the work that Taylor in Alan

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to do. I think it's the best place that the

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show's been at thus far, and so I'm glad to

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see some outside validation. But if you're watching online right now,

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you have no longer say about Jake. I'm sitting by

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a name you probably remember from back in the day,

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Brooks Chabina, now covering the Philadelphia Eagles for the Athletic.

520
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Of course, Brooks was a LSU beat writer back in

521
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the day, and you know, following in the footsteps of

522
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Ross and all these other guys who go on to bigger,

523
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better and greater things. Also very jacked right now, Brooks. Look,

524
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so you've been hitting the chip Man. You look great.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 9: This is actually a response to coming in last night

527
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and I went too hard with the po boy and

528
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had three beers, and I remember why I lost ten

529
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pounds when I left Yews Hannah.

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Speaker 5: So I just ran three miles.

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Speaker 3: Oh, let's go dose. You got the endorphins pumping, all

532
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got it?

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Speaker 2: Man?

534
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Speaker 9: And I broke something on Hester's headphones. So I don't

535
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know my own strength. I'm already messing everything up.

536
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Speaker 3: So okay, wait, so real quick, before we get into

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the Eagles, take me take me through your years after

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you left l s U, because you were with Houston

539
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for a.

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Speaker 9: While, rightyeah, yeah, yeah. I went to the Houston Chronicle

541
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to cover the Texans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

543
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Speaker 5: So that was right at the beginning of their rebuild.

544
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Speaker 9: Uh, the all the allegations and stuff coming out against

545
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Deshaan Watson, that whole saga. I stepped into that and

546
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covered that year and they they went one. I'm done

547
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with David Cully went one. I'm done with Lovey Smith.

548
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I didn't cover really that many wins in my time

549
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in Houston, so I think, you know the Super Bowl.

550
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So last year I joined the Athletic cover the Eagles,

551
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and as soon as I joined the beat, they tank,

552
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you know, so all the people like, it's you, it's you,

553
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And now they're in the super Bowl.

554
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Speaker 2: So, oh goodly, you've been freed. That's right.

555
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Speaker 3: What so you also covered a pretty crazy time with

556
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the LSU Beat. What's the wildest beat that you've covered?

557
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,920
LSU is still still still just drama.

558
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Speaker 9: I mean it, the highs and the lows every day,

559
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you know, waking up at five am, wondering what's going

560
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to be in the email sheet from you know, whatever

561
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situation might be there. And then I mean the national Championship.

562
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I was thinking about this because you know, five years ago, Yeah,

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they won the national championship here in New Orleans and

564
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the morning of that dreadful eight am press conference that's

565
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after whoever does that needs to you know.

566
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Speaker 5: Not do that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, awful, awful, but they won the national championship, which

568
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is the highest of how you can get.

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Speaker 5: But also Odell Beckham had been hanging handing out.

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Speaker 9: Cash on the field, you know, the wide range of

571
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things you have to cover. I remember calling somebody that

572
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morning at LSU and be like, hey, congratulations.

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Speaker 5: I did not think i'd be talk what happened? This

574
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is my job. I was like, dude, I do not

575
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want to bring the mood down, but what happened with this?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 3: But now, like you said, with the Eagles winner, and

578
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so in our one, we laid out uh just kind

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of you know, are our service level narratives and storylines

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that we're playing with week and with the Eagles, so

581
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much of it is tied into kind of Jalen Hurts,

582
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Nick Sirianni, two guys who shouldn't need validation, but for

583
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whatever reason, beat a high level of expectation. They a

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lot of people still view them as needing to win

585
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the big One to get there. As somebody who covers

586
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his team intimately. What are your main storylines about this

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team that are most interesting going into this week?

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Speaker 9: Well, the number one is the greatest running back the

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Eagles I've ever had. Saquon Barkley comes in and everybody

590
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probably saw the Hard Knocks interview and everything about how

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he left the New York Giants, a team that never

592
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gave him the guaranteed money and the contract of long

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term security that he has been chasing the whole time.

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Speaker 5: He joins the Eagles.

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Speaker 9: And I was talking to Howie Roseman, the general manager

596
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of the Eagles, on Saturday, Nastimath if that was the

597
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single most influential signing he ever had in his tenure.

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He's been with the Eagles since two thousand, in various

599
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different roles. Yeah, he wouldn't put it that way, but

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you look at how the offense runs, and it runs

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through Saquon Barkley. They are running the ball more per

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game since nineteen seventy eight with this Eagles team, and

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you got to look at everything through what they're.

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Speaker 2: Doing through nineteen seventy. It used to be nineteen fifty. Damn.

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Speaker 9: But the last game of the season, Jalen Hurts gets through. Yeah,

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so that actually bumped them up to nineteen seventy. But

607
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that's the main storyline. Saquon Barkley's influence on the offense

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and also his influence on a very young team. You

609
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look on the defensive side, that was something that they

610
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were very They struggled so much on defense last year,

611
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giving up explosive passes, all those things. They go into

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the draft and you look at what the Eagles have

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done as a personnel department. They went on a heater

614
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in terms of what they sign earlier the you know,

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drafting Quinnion Mitchell in the first round, trading up to

616
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get Cooper Dejane in the second round. Both of them

617
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are Rookie of the Year candidates. We'll see who wins

618
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this week. But Barkley's influence there is being this person

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who you know comes in with his ara already. And

620
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I was talking to Lane Johnson, the right tackle who's

621
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been around for one of the long time.

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Speaker 5: Now he is and he's like it usually.

623
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Speaker 9: Takes a while for a guy to jump in and

624
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earn his stripes and how to use his voice, and

625
00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:16,359
but with Barkley was immediate. And this is an organization

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that likes to get young players in and have a

627
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mentor prepared. You see, like Jalen Carter on the interior.

628
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He had Fletcher Cox last year.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 9: But Barkley being there this year also helps those things.

631
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So that's one main narrative and the other is Nick

632
00:29:29,119 --> 00:29:34,000
Sirianni last year the biggest collapse that I can remember.

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Speaker 3: In terms, I mean, these have been the two best

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teams the NFL for two point seventy five seasons. Yes,

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like a piece, like without the Eagles collapse. Yes, they're

636
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they're They're as dynastic olmost as is run by the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: But it just all inexplicably blew up. Yeah.

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Speaker 9: But Philadelphia fans, they remind me a lot of LSU fans.

639
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Speaker 5: People said, you're not ready for Philadelphia. It's like, well,

640
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you know, it's kind of similar.

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Speaker 9: You know, they live breathed diet, you know, it's it's everything.

642
00:30:01,079 --> 00:30:04,160
So whenever things went wrong in Philly last year and

643
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they go one and six to end the year, and

644
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you know, the organization is trying to say, well, you know,

645
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we made the playoffs. We like a lot of these things.

646
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,519
Philly wasn't having it. Yeah, like, yeah, get Nick Sirianni

647
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out of here. We want to start over here. And

648
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I mean you see in the offseason. I mean, he

649
00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:21,880
has the highest win percentage in terms of win percentage

650
00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:25,319
amongst coaches in Eagles history, and for him to be

651
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,559
fired last year would have been huge. But a lot

652
00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:30,279
of people were calling for his head inside the city,

653
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,000
and he overhauled his staff. Yeah, fired his offensive coordinator,

654
00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:37,359
defensive coordinator, made two new hires, Kellen Moore, who's up

655
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,759
for the Saints job yep, and Vic Fangio, who's now

656
00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:43,240
in his seventh time as a defensive coordinator. I asked

657
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him if he wanted to be a head coach again,

658
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which I think he probably could if he tried, but

659
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he said he's he's from the Eagles Philadelphia area. He's

660
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,720
reached him. He's sixty six years old. He started his

661
00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:57,200
career here in New Orleans, which is another storyline. But Siriana,

662
00:30:57,279 --> 00:31:00,000
what he's done to get back to the Super Bowl,

663
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amongst a lot of the vitriol that fans had in

664
00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:06,000
Philly against him for the collapse last year and wondering

665
00:31:06,319 --> 00:31:10,160
what he does quote unquote because he's not a play caller.

666
00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:13,440
He removed himself to more of a CEO type role

667
00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:16,599
and that comes with a lot of questions, and it

668
00:31:16,759 --> 00:31:19,599
comes down to who do you hire, how do you

669
00:31:19,599 --> 00:31:22,680
manage your team? Are the game plans sound? And there's

670
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,759
no question that was successful this year. So he's put

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00:31:24,839 --> 00:31:25,920
himself back on the mountain top.

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Speaker 3: And something else that we talked about was, I've found

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some in the athletic I've found some great numbers on

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offseason editions. And how unreal it is the Eagles adding

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not one, but two First Team All Pro players in

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Saquon Barley and Zach Bond. It's like, apparently only since

677
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:48,279
nineteen seventy only like fourteen teams have even had added

678
00:31:48,319 --> 00:31:50,680
one the other team ninety teams have not, and the

679
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,200
Eagles added two. And what about Zach Bond, because that's

680
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,960
kind of the New Orleans angle to me, Here's you

681
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,079
had that guy in there. He's talking about rolling up

682
00:31:58,119 --> 00:32:00,440
to herk crying in the parking. Absolutely miserable and now

683
00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:03,519
he's first team All Pro. What is he said about

684
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his transition to Philly.

685
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Speaker 5: I think he's tired of me asking about it.

686
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

687
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Speaker 9: Yeah, Zach Bond's been a fun story to be around

688
00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:13,920
every week. And I did a sort whenever they played

689
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here against the Saints in Week three. I think it

690
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,240
was I talked to him about that because he was

691
00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:22,799
an edge rusher, came in. I kind of had everybody

692
00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:25,200
in this area knows what Bond was with the Saints,

693
00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:28,000
and he in the off season, the Eagles were looking

694
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,640
for somebody to fit kind of that mold on the edge,

695
00:32:31,759 --> 00:32:34,319
someone that could fulfill that because they've That's a whole

696
00:32:34,319 --> 00:32:36,079
other story about how they're managing the edge.

697
00:32:36,119 --> 00:32:37,359
Speaker 5: But Vic Fangio.

698
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,799
Speaker 9: Receives film from Howie Roseman and says, hey, I like,

699
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,880
I like Zach Bond kind of on the edge. Maybe

700
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,480
a guy who can shift around and use as a

701
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,000
gadget guy.

702
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Speaker 2: What do you think?

703
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 9: And he's like, I see him as an inside linebacker.

704
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,319
All right, Uh, well, okay, let's see what happens. And

705
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,440
he goes into the off season and he puts him there,

706
00:32:54,519 --> 00:32:57,400
and even Bond had questions, Yeah, when do I get

707
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,519
to rush. You know, He's asking, Okay, this is cool,

708
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,680
and I'm like, I like how I'm playing in here,

709
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,759
but like when do I get to go out?

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Speaker 2: Like most natural role was going to be.

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Speaker 9: And he was talking to HOWI Roseman. They were like

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at that time, like he thought his ceiling might be

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be the best special teams player that they have. And

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to understand why this is such an opportunity that he

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fulfilled was that the Eagles historically have not really valued

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the linebacker position monetarily. Well, yeah, a lot of the

717
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problems last year originated from letting two linebackers walk from

718
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the Super Bowl team two years ago, and they played

719
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really poorly with the replacements that they had last year.

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So Bond coming through in that way. They signed Devin

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White in the offseason last year. Yep, so name people

722
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remember from LSU here and people thought, including me, that

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Devin White was gonna be the inside starting inside linebacker.

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But Bond played so well that he beat out and

725
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it just started like that. That ball just he ended

726
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Devin White's a resurgency campaign and to the point where

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White actually went to the Eagles and said, look, I

728
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know I'm not going to play I'd like an opportunity

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to go on somewhere else and get a shot.

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Speaker 5: So that was ama cool.

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Speaker 9: He gets released Week four and Bond's now a Defensive

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Player of the Year candidate and he can't believe it,

733
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and how he can't believe it, not anybody and what

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he's been able to do here.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be interesting because he's on a one year deal.

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Speaker 9: Yep, oh I didn't realize that. Yeah, so now the

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Eagles have to decide pay him. It's funny. Uh, Jason Kelcey,

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everybody knows jas kelsey is. He has a show on

739
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Friday nights that's in Philly, and Howie Roseman attended it

740
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and they talked about Zach Bond and he made the

741
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joke Roseman did that's like, oh, we didn't you know?

742
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Speaker 5: Did you expect this?

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Speaker 9: And he used the word I can't say in there,

744
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and he's like, I hope you remember that whenever your

745
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contract comes up, we're gonna do it again. So well,

746
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Bond knows that he got his opportunity in Philly. He's

747
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playing well because he's playing under Fanjioe, who's not you know,

748
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he's saying he's staying so he might decide to, you know,

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instead of pursue this large contract with somewhere else, like

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he'll still get his money, yeah, yeah, get paid, but.

751
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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe not like min max it, but maybe take

752
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a little bit of a discount to stay with the

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team that launched him into the stratus.

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Speaker 9: And that's one of the interesting things about what the

755
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Eagles do as an organization. Look at the offseason moves

756
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they made. They re signed aj Brown, Devonte smith, Landon Dickerson,

757
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and Jordan Mylatta on contracts at the time that were

758
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max deals, and then within months they reset the market.

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And now those are the fifth, the sixth, the seventh

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ranked players.

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Speaker 2: So they get ahead. They got in.

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Speaker 3: They got in on value when the value was good

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before the price got driven it driven up even more.

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Speaker 9: If anybody's a Cowboys fan in this regions, like the opposite,

765
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you know, set the market.

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Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts was like two years.

767
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Speaker 9: Ago the highest paid quarterback in NFL history for all

768
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but a minute. Yeah, and then every now he's like

769
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the seventh or something like that. So they get ahead

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on it. I'm sure they'll do the same with Pond.

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All Right, Brooks last one to give about thirty seconds

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here read on who wins or how you maybe think

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this thing plays out.

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Speaker 5: I think the Eagles win.

775
00:35:49,199 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 9: Watching the Chiefs this year, it's they they They're so

776
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,320
savvy in terms of how a game plays out. Yeah,

777
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there have been moments where defense is like the Texans

778
00:35:58,639 --> 00:36:01,159
in the divisional round, where they get turnovers but they

779
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:03,440
don't capitalize. I was like, if the Texans had any

780
00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:05,280
breath of life on offense, they might have been able

781
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to upset the Chiefs. The way the Eagles play, they

782
00:36:08,679 --> 00:36:12,880
leverage their offensive run game against this top ranked defense

783
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,679
has got a bunch of turnovers. And to understand why

784
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,159
that's important, Jalen Hurts has stepped into a more conservative

785
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role in the pocket. He's taking more sacks because he's

786
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not throwing the ball. He's not chucking, and he knows

787
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that if he doesn't turn the ball over and they punt,

788
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chances are they're going to be able to get a

789
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stop on defense.

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Speaker 5: So I think that.

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Speaker 9: Style of play, they're going to capitalize on anything they

792
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get out of the Chiefs, who have been turning the

793
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ball over at times. They'll be in a position at

794
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the end of the game where I think they might

795
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be up by eight or nine and mahomes can't kill

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you that way.

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Speaker 3: So I think that's how this goes exactly well. Brooks,

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thank you so much man. Again, guys, if you don't

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check out as well. Brooks, thank you so much man.

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It's great catching up with your great seeing you, Bob.

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Speaker 2: And what's the.

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Speaker 3: Number one thing we learned all U LSU fans talking

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about about the Philly fans. Look in the mirror you

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are one and the same, all right, Moro TV.

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Speaker 1: Off the Bench with Hester and T Bob Live from

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Super Bowl fifty nine Radio Row in New Orleans, presented

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by Low Bears Casino, Hotel, Baton Rouge.

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Speaker 3: All right, guys, look, I'm gonna give you all heads up.

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I screwed this hour up, Okay, so we're gonna have

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a couple of quick segments in the hour here again.

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I can hear Moscona grinding its teeth all the way

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from I ten driving over here to New Orleans. We

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just got a little excited man, you know, got a

837
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little excited about being the seventh grade mag market local

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morning sports talk show in the entire country. Huge credit

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to Taitay and Landra for bringing us up even a

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bit more. We'll go through the the rest of the listen

841
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see where everybody else falls. Also shout out to Brooks.

842
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,880
Great catching up with him, very funny. So that sentiment

843
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about the LSU beat is something that I've heard from Brooks,

844
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,960
Brody Ross, like everybody who's gone on to these big

845
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things in the journalism world that cut their teeth covering

846
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the LSU bit. Almost every single person to a man

847
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,679
talks about the insanity of the LSU beat and how

848
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,000
unending it is, and how that the drama, the highs,

849
00:39:27,159 --> 00:39:32,960
the lows, it's all pretty mind blowing, all right, So

850
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what can we do the very quick here, Let's continue

851
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our hunt Palmer Baseball position preview.

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Speaker 5: This year we got center field on the docket.

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Speaker 3: Remember go in position by position hunts bringing down Louisiana

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Sports Net, the great new site we have over guaranteed

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Speaker 2: Who's gone paston?

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Speaker 3: Kling gone after frustrating off with the season Pacticleling no

858
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longer there. Jake Brown is coming back who's new Chris Stanfield.

859
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,239
Now Stanfield seems like the name here. He's transferring him

860
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,639
from Auburn. Last year he was Auburg's primary center fielder

861
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,639
fifty one starts to his laying led Auburn in multi

862
00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:10,320
hit games. He hit two eighty three with seventeen run

863
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scored n SEC play. It's funny against LSU. You know

864
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,239
a lot of times these coaches go after the players

865
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that had discussed against them. Against LSU in twenty three,

866
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,559
is a true freshman Stanfield gets two hits off of Skeins.

867
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,360
In twenty twenty four, he had a three hit game

868
00:40:25,519 --> 00:40:29,559
in the box. He's very good defensively. Now he's not

869
00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:31,239
the only name there because, like I said, Jake Brown

870
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,639
pretty solid as a freshman, strong fall. He's in play.

871
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,039
Derek Curiel will have some opportunity as well. For what

872
00:40:37,079 --> 00:40:40,519
it's worth. Hunt's final take is that look he likes

873
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Curiel and left Stanfield and center and then right field

874
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,320
being some combination of Brown, Larson, Pearson, fry Beck. Like

875
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to see who ends up winning that job. But again,

876
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Stanfield's name to look at here, and you gotta wonder

877
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,719
can j Johnson, the development god do something akin to

878
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what we've seen him do with other players that transfer

879
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in and bring their game to the next level, probably

880
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,280
like Michael Braswell, the most premier example of this. So

881
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you can even look at a guy like Tommy White

882
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and he was already great at MC state, but the

883
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consistency that he achieved here, that's what Jay Johnson does.

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He finds what your potential is and he rings it

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out of you like squeezing blood from the stone. So

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shout out to Hun Palmer and his work on Louisiana

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Sports on that check it out more Off the Bench

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Speaker 3: All very true, But I would like to point out

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Speaker 5: Do I suck up all the air in the room. Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: Do I sit there and just spew and yell and interrupt, Yes,

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of it. Sometimes, like this hour, I just get too excited.

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But just no, I cut off everybody, right, even Jake,

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So it's not just Magelandra Okay, we had a ton

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still to get to on today's show. If our phones work,

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I'm hoping to catch up with Hold the Mayo next hour.

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We've got weekend winners to start and there's a lot

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to get today. We still got our TATA NFL Story

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of the Day day and uh, by the way, I know, guys,

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Jake did not quit. If you want to catch Jake,

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he is going to be on super Bowl Radio. I

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think I said it's serious xem one oh six and

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that's gonna be nine to twelve. I'm gonna go over

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there at ten fifteen go hop on with him and

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then he of course he has off campus in the

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afternoon as well. But I don't think this is going

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to be Taytay's INNFL Story of the Day day. But

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it looks like Justin Tucker is now up to nine

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massage therapist guys. So it's a bit like we said,

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Tucker with the vehement denial and I get it. But

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then there were those random tweets from a few years

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ago kind of talking about the very thing that's been

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alleged now and much like this Shaun Watson case, the

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number kind of continues to climb, so not not great

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for old JT nine massage service. He's collecting quite the

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grouping there. Jake devastated they didn't make the top five

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camp Better face anyone, dude, so competive, true, true, too gritty.

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Speaker 2: To be pretty.

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Speaker 3: He thought he was looking for the coffee table. He

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never came back. Yeah, it looks like I mean, I

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don't know where the coffee tables are here if I

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had to guess, so they will not be removed at

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eight am.

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Speaker 5: All right, Hour two is in the books again.

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Speaker 3: Sorry for the short segments here at the m We'll

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get back on schedule next hour. Crank it up with

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weekend winners. Keep it locked otb Offter bench