Speaker 1: Salisbury, Salisbury.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do this.
Speaker 3: Sewn Salisburysbury to USC troupe, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 4: Dan matthewscuse, this is the Sewan Salisbury Show.
Speaker 5: Chris Gordian for Dan Matthews. Today, our guys Sewn in
Speaker 5: the saddle, Triple E down Hall and welcome in as
Speaker 5: we celebrate your American League leading Houston freaking Astros. Astros
Speaker 5: beat the Diamondbacks last night or yesterday afternoon rather four
Speaker 5: to three, sweeping their ass right out of Chase Field,
Speaker 5: and the Astros with the best record in the American League.
Speaker 5: Now Toronto did win last night, so they they caught you.
Speaker 5: You were for a couple hours, you were at half
Speaker 5: a game up on him. But regardless identical records, let
Speaker 5: me know if back in February, Shawn, during spring training
Speaker 5: that you had Toronto and the Astros tied for the
Speaker 5: American League lead on July twenty.
Speaker 2: Fourth, these three years ago count where you pick Toronto
Speaker 2: and they've finally nobody's picking them, and they're they're they're there.
Speaker 2: I guess we could say over achieving or probably doing
Speaker 2: what we kind of expect them to a few years
Speaker 2: because they've always had pitching, and we know and talk
Speaker 2: about a resurgence. George Springer's having himself a good year
Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, you know, what's really a trip about this, Gordy?
Speaker 2: And maybe I've mentioned you, I know I've talked about Dan.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, is if I would have told you they're
Speaker 2: eighteen games, I believe seventeen or eighteen might have been
Speaker 2: eighteen over five hundred. I think it's eighteen games right
Speaker 2: now and in first place, and obviously, you know, tied
Speaker 2: for the best record in Major League or in the
Speaker 2: American League. So I will ask you this. Jordan's start,
Speaker 2: d h Paenias at shortstop. They're all healthy, including Garcia
Speaker 2: and Javier. I mean this ros so other than a
Speaker 2: few guys that are banged up with you know, Wiznsky's
Speaker 2: out just a few of it, the majority are healthy.
Speaker 2: You know that sixteen dudes you talked about yesterday and
Speaker 2: I said, this is their record? What would you say,
Speaker 2: Spring Train if I told you this is what they
Speaker 2: were going to be one hundred games in?
Speaker 5: So it makes sense you're not almost to be having
Speaker 5: a career year. Uh, you know, all the pitching staff's rocking.
Speaker 2: And roll in. Now do this one. All these guys hurt.
Speaker 2: And I told you this at spring training, and this
Speaker 2: was going to be the lineup mixed in with a
Speaker 2: little triple A, maybe even a double A guy who's
Speaker 2: played Triple A who's coming. Just a mix and match.
Speaker 2: And here's who your pitching staff was going to be.
Speaker 2: Then what would you tell me? This was their record?
Speaker 5: They're in third place in aosh, well was this record?
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, but forget that. I take it back. Yeah,
Speaker 2: right now do it. The third layer is I told
Speaker 2: you this is how it's gonna be. I don't know
Speaker 2: what their record is gonna be. Gordy, where do you
Speaker 2: think they're game?
Speaker 5: I'd have them third place in al Wes, probably behind
Speaker 5: the Rangers and the Mariners.
Speaker 2: I mean eight nine games out.
Speaker 5: Saying like God, I hope they could get on a
Speaker 5: heater or something.
Speaker 2: It's incredible, it really is. Is I mean just put
Speaker 2: out there yesterday.
Speaker 5: Yes, if you tell me Tramell leading off in, Victor
Speaker 5: Carrottini batting two hole. I said to us, if you
Speaker 5: told me that in February, I would have been like there,
Speaker 5: things went poorly wrong.
Speaker 2: Who's getting fired? Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Joe Spotty was fired and somebody's an interim coach, like
Speaker 5: It's just true. It almost looked like show. When I
Speaker 5: saw that lineup card yesterday, I went, oh, they felt
Speaker 5: good about winning the.
Speaker 2: First win the series two or three and now we
Speaker 2: move on so with travel day, right? So so with that,
Speaker 2: I mean, isn't there something? And I know it's weird,
Speaker 2: and isn't there something? What is this? When I say heater?
Speaker 2: This run they've been on is what, say, a decade worth? Right?
Speaker 2: Is that about? Right?
Speaker 5: Thirty sixteen first year? Yeah they were, they made a
Speaker 5: wild card.
Speaker 2: So so a decade worth of run. I'm not saying
Speaker 2: seventeen wasn't sad, first World Series, all those things, but
Speaker 2: I'm talking about if you look at the overall picture
Speaker 2: and how they've done it, tell me how this isn't
Speaker 2: as satisfying or as impressive as anyone they've had because
Speaker 2: we knew it, you know, back in seventeen and in
Speaker 2: nineteen and twelve, they've they've you know, pitching staff and
Speaker 2: veterans and load loaded their lineup pretty damn good. You
Speaker 2: can't tell me that this isn't as impressive a season
Speaker 2: they've had in this decade run. Considering all the circumstances,
Speaker 2: there's no way that that we can't think that this
Speaker 2: is if it ain't first, it ain't third. Does that
Speaker 2: make sense? It's got the sounds in between the two.
Speaker 2: It's been a phenomenal. Now how it ends is obviously
Speaker 2: usually the way we judge the season, but to date,
Speaker 2: there's not a soul. I don't really care who it is,
Speaker 2: even the Astros themselves. If I would have told Dana
Speaker 2: Brown and Joe's Botty, here's what it's going to look
Speaker 2: like for you and heading into August and not tell
Speaker 2: them what I said I thought their record was going
Speaker 2: to be, they would look in and I said, here
Speaker 2: is going to be your record. They look at me like,
Speaker 2: so what is Altove hitting four twenty and Hunter Brown
Speaker 2: and from Er Valdez never lost a game in the first,
Speaker 2: you know, one hundred games of the season. I we'd
Speaker 2: be looking at a lot different. So regardless of the
Speaker 2: and think about the expectations, and I don't know if
Speaker 2: spoiled the right word, but through all this and what
Speaker 2: they're doing and pushing twenty games over five hundred, if
Speaker 2: you're a fan base, there's got to be you've got
Speaker 2: to be optimistic about just think what happens if they
Speaker 2: get healthy in August. I'm actually mesmerized by what they've
Speaker 2: done this year considering the circumstances. I am because I
Speaker 2: would this if everybody was healthy.
Speaker 5: And for those who didn't see it yesterday, well, first off,
Speaker 5: we got to give some love to a guy named
Speaker 5: Brandon Walter. Do you think a guy that the astro
Speaker 5: has claimed last August? So almost a year ago, no
Speaker 5: one even knew his name, Like, no fail, You know,
Speaker 5: I was shocked when I look back and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 5: that they claimed him last August, just stashed him and
Speaker 5: opened up this season.
Speaker 2: And didn't even know he was here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was like, who's the redhead guy in the
Speaker 5: clubhouster inspirit training?
Speaker 3: But he.
Speaker 5: Starts the year in sugar Land and pitched well and
Speaker 5: pitched well and got his opportunity came up here on
Speaker 5: it was May twentieth, and pitched five shoutout innings against
Speaker 5: the race and basically outside a really one or two hiccup, Sean,
Speaker 5: he has been outstanding, you know.
Speaker 2: Who it reminds me of. But it came at an
Speaker 2: earlier time in the season. Did Walter is when JP
Speaker 2: France came in when they was necessary, you know, but
Speaker 2: he came in the season had already started. You were
Speaker 2: kind of using him in the bullpen. You started him,
Speaker 2: and he was doing both and fulfilled both roles pretty
Speaker 2: damn good. It's similar, but having Walter at the beginning
Speaker 2: to do what he's I mean, you know where you say, Okay,
Speaker 2: well I don't know this guy, but we'll see what
Speaker 2: he does because all these injuries have forced him into
Speaker 2: this situation. But he's also it almost looks you know,
Speaker 2: sometimes when you put a guy in you say, well,
Speaker 2: he's forced into it. He isn't ready. You become desperate
Speaker 2: and you start to try and do things as a
Speaker 2: player that you normally wouldn't do, and in your performance suffers.
Speaker 2: It's almost like he said, oh no, I don't have
Speaker 2: to do this. I get an opportunity to do it,
Speaker 2: and he seized it. Man, he's made the most of
Speaker 2: it and he's really been good. And look at the
Speaker 2: innings he logged yesterday, Gordy. Think about how even just
Speaker 2: I know, it sounds so simple going right.
Speaker 5: I mean, he'd give you seven seven naun ball and
Speaker 5: eighty two pitches. They could have thrown him out.
Speaker 2: There for the eighth Yes they could have, and said,
Speaker 2: oh we still got fifteen to eighteen pitches to give
Speaker 2: and get him out eight innings. Now that is what
Speaker 2: you need to find a way to keep a bullpen fresh.
Speaker 2: And he is relished in this and has succeeded and
Speaker 2: thrived in it, and it's been impressive.
Speaker 5: Man By twenty sixth round draft pick by the Red
Speaker 5: Sox twenty nineteen, came up through their system, had a
Speaker 5: cup of coffee with him. In twenty twenty three he
Speaker 5: made appeared nine games for them. Last year, wasn't even
Speaker 5: in the bigs, right, and the dream was over.
Speaker 2: Yes, And when you the journeyman is what he is
Speaker 2: and he stops there because he's done one hell of
Speaker 2: a job here he.
Speaker 3: You have to.
Speaker 2: And I said this going into the season. I told
Speaker 2: Dan this, and I believe this happens especially on teams.
Speaker 2: This is even before you knew all these injuries. I said,
Speaker 2: in order for them to elevate, because you thought about
Speaker 2: the losses of Bregman and Tucker somebody, I said, two
Speaker 2: guys that were not expecting are going to have to
Speaker 2: have career years. And you look up and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, you know, Ratis who's a good player, but
Speaker 2: head home run, pop paying your career year, and these
Speaker 2: did Jake Myers career year, and they then that's what
Speaker 2: they're having. And you need that when you when guys right, somebody,
Speaker 2: a guy you don't expect makes the All Star Team,
Speaker 2: or you know, a middle infielder all of a sudden
Speaker 2: on some team like man he was supposed to back
Speaker 2: up Ozzy Albi's and all of a sudden, next thing
Speaker 2: you know, he's in the All Star Game. A guy
Speaker 2: and they needed that. Well, Jake Myers' career year, Jeremy Payne,
Speaker 2: your career year, hell Cam Smith, he'll have many more
Speaker 2: better than this. But a rookie is to coming out
Speaker 2: of the box, and at times this year is hit
Speaker 2: lead off and hitting the two hole. So it's just
Speaker 2: somebody else. And Walter on the pitching man on the
Speaker 2: mound has been one of those guys. And here they are,
Speaker 2: so you know, you can the brilliance of the way
Speaker 2: that they scout talent and the way they evaluate it,
Speaker 2: but also the way they developed it. But also when
Speaker 2: you put him up there, they still got a job
Speaker 2: to do, and there's countless guys on the roster. Look
Speaker 2: a look at who contributed again yesterday. Look look at
Speaker 2: the names that contributed yesterday.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you had that. That ninth inning was
Speaker 5: the craziest Sean. I mean they Bennett Sussa blows it
Speaker 5: in the eighth. I mean that kind of sucked. But
Speaker 5: you're tied. You get the double play to end it.
Speaker 5: You're Todd was.
Speaker 2: Nighte with the basis pack too, Gordon, Yeah.
Speaker 5: You go to the ninth Zach Short bunts himself on
Speaker 5: for a basit. We go, okay, all right, I'll take it.
Speaker 5: Taylor Tremmell follows with a butt for a back.
Speaker 2: Dude. Two. But now, for all the people out there,
Speaker 2: the one bunch, you got two in one game, which
Speaker 2: is about more than you're going to get the next
Speaker 2: thirty for bass hits, for basse hits.
Speaker 5: Look, I've yelled for bunts in the past, but I
Speaker 5: mean that's that was just insane. And then Christian Walker,
Speaker 5: who had hit him a hell of a series. I
Speaker 5: joked yesterday, put the VR, the virtual reality headset on
Speaker 5: him and let him envision he's either a Dodger Stadium
Speaker 5: or Chase Field, because that dude can hit.
Speaker 2: Look and he's starting to come alive, man, and it's
Speaker 2: it's needed, right, so he he comes up clutch Walter,
Speaker 2: he just named back to back. I don't know how
Speaker 2: many times will you see that this year? Basse hit
Speaker 2: bunts in the same inning late.
Speaker 5: In the game, Christian Walker RBI single boom, Yeah, four
Speaker 5: to three lead, Josh Hater and the ninth.
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, I'm willing to take the bet now
Speaker 2: and I haven't looked at the metrics of it well
Speaker 2: that no team this year has had back to back
Speaker 2: bunts for singles. Now, a swinging bunt, maybe an infield hit.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about, Well, you lay down a bunt and
Speaker 2: you back to back hits in the same inning in
Speaker 2: the same game. You won't see that back to back
Speaker 2: where guys are getting a bunt in the days of
Speaker 2: Rod Crew and each Row and those guys laying one
Speaker 2: down and beating it out or a great we just
Speaker 2: don't have those anymore. Yeah, once in a while, I'm
Speaker 2: going to say that that's the first time it's happened
Speaker 2: this year and on any team.
Speaker 5: And it was a day where al Tuove was off,
Speaker 5: had they pinched hit al Twove, he probably could have
Speaker 5: been the third to do it, that's right. But it's
Speaker 5: just wild shown because it's a day that they they
Speaker 5: had a lineup with no House Altuve, no your On Alvarez,
Speaker 5: no East Soak Parades, and no Germany Pina and they
Speaker 5: had eleven hits and one and a fifty. Taylor said,
Speaker 5: they took fifteen at bats with runners in scoring position.
Speaker 5: You can't ask for more than that.
Speaker 2: That's exactly which we and and to be able to
Speaker 2: get runs. And it's not just runs, it's the runs
Speaker 2: at the right hits like Christian Walker at the key
Speaker 2: moments that are good. You know, the solo home run
Speaker 2: when you're down eight to nothing is a hard one.
Speaker 2: It's the it's the hits like this that come at
Speaker 2: the time when you need them, where it's not just
Speaker 2: an empty single or an empty home run when the
Speaker 2: game's over. And what do you know, in the same day,
Speaker 2: you also get seven innings from a guy not named
Speaker 2: Hunter Brown or from ber Valdez. It was it's impressive.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Like I said you, we can complain all we want
Speaker 2: about man and this injury and what's going on with
Speaker 2: this guy, and we keep hearing that his day to day,
Speaker 2: and yet this team's eighteen games over five hundred and
Speaker 2: the best record, tied for the best record in the
Speaker 2: American League. There's not a solo live who expected this.
Speaker 2: They're just it isn't. I don't care how much confidence
Speaker 2: you have in your team. There's no way you saw
Speaker 2: this coming. And maybe just maybe all that stuff of
Speaker 2: when you get here, there's something in the water or
Speaker 2: whatever it is, and it's it's held true. I've seen
Speaker 2: it hold true for a damn decade here. The rapper
Speaker 2: may change, but the performance by the player seems to
Speaker 2: get it done on a regular basis. So and they're alive,
Speaker 2: and well.
Speaker 5: The tough part becomes, and we'll kick this around while
Speaker 5: we return. Who leaves when some of the other guys
Speaker 5: get back, who's heading out.
Speaker 2: Well, it's a good problem to have. It is a
Speaker 2: problem because it's gonna happen.
Speaker 5: We'll talk about that next Sean Salisbury show. We're on
Speaker 5: along here on a Thursday morning.
Speaker 1: Let's go, this is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 5: We'll get into some observations. I got out there for
Speaker 5: a little bit, give you some takes what I saw
Speaker 5: a little bit later in the show. But Sean doing
Speaker 5: the postgame show yesterday, we were getting a lot of
Speaker 5: calls from folks saying, look, I'm loving it, Sastro's four
Speaker 5: game win streak, rocking and rolling. But if if I
Speaker 5: could be a little bit of a pest, if it
Speaker 5: could be a pest, our callers were saying, what are
Speaker 5: you do when some of these other guys get back?
Speaker 5: Who goes down? I mean, Brandon Walter's pitching great right now,
Speaker 5: Colton Gordon's doing his thing, you know, Christian Hoveer comes back?
Speaker 5: Who slides out?
Speaker 2: So you're telling me that while in the middle of
Speaker 2: complaining that we run a triple A roster out there,
Speaker 2: now that triple A roster people are worried about them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're good, exactly Wait a minute now, So now the
Speaker 2: problem isn't all the guys are hurt. The problem is
Speaker 2: where we find in space for all the guys that
Speaker 2: are performing while the guys are hurt. And are the
Speaker 2: guys that are hurt gonna get their gigs back when
Speaker 2: they come back automatically?
Speaker 5: Yeah, And look, it's pretty obvious when you look at
Speaker 5: the forty man roster and you see who the active
Speaker 5: guys are. I mean, we were getting it just I
Speaker 5: think people just want to bitch shown because we had
Speaker 5: somebody tweeting yesterday going, what bring John Singleton? Oh, but
Speaker 5: if they're not gonna play him, John Singleton is perfectly
Speaker 5: fine sitting his ass on the bench. I'm sorry, like
Speaker 5: we're playing needed we'n't care.
Speaker 2: And well that's like saying on any roster, why he
Speaker 2: got twenty six guys, Well we play nine and on
Speaker 2: the day the guy and he's arrested, then he'll play,
Speaker 2: or if we need him in there, just like the
Speaker 2: the the and having that bench where you have the
Speaker 2: trust and there's gonna be guys sent down Gordy that
Speaker 2: quite frankly or moved in a in a move at
Speaker 2: the trade deadline that you're gonna say, oh damn, but
Speaker 2: he went down, man, he was playing good baseball. But
Speaker 2: what it also does is it gives the Joe Aspada
Speaker 2: in the front office that if it rears its head again,
Speaker 2: that you trust that you can bring the guy back
Speaker 2: without a problem, because you know he can play, and
Speaker 2: it's a good problem to have. But you also got
Speaker 2: to you know, you got to understand geography and be
Speaker 2: a real estate agent and a psychologist and all those
Speaker 2: things when this happens, because well, they've seen the movie before.
Speaker 2: This used to be one of those organizations. It was
Speaker 2: one of the toughest organizations to break in from the
Speaker 2: minor leagues, because it's just like every year you roll
Speaker 2: him out, how you gonna breaking the centerfield springers there,
Speaker 2: and it's shortstopping Karreya in at second base, and then
Speaker 2: when they go all of a sudden, you find out, well,
Speaker 2: Jake Myers is pretty good, and oh that's right, that
Speaker 2: pain you got, he ain't bad. And at third base
Speaker 2: Parade is doing to go well. Right field, well, okay,
Speaker 2: you can't replace him. Well, Campsmith's pretty good. So it
Speaker 2: gives you while they may go down, it doesn't mean wow,
Speaker 2: they're down. Nobody believes in him. It means we don't
Speaker 2: have room for him. But now we trust them that
Speaker 2: if we have to bring him back at the snap
Speaker 2: of a hand and drive him up or down fifty
Speaker 2: nine to sixty nine from Sugarland, we got him and
Speaker 2: they can trust him. And building that trust is huge.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what, if we're complaining about that, now,
Speaker 2: I'll take that complaint all day. Buddy, words like hey man,
Speaker 2: what are you gonna do. Now this guy's raking, well,
Speaker 2: we just don't have room for him. But now that
Speaker 2: we know that, at the drop of a hat he's
Speaker 2: got to move, we can call on him to go
Speaker 2: do his thing when he gets here. So nice to
Speaker 2: have a great sugar Land and right down, no doubt.
Speaker 5: It's I remember that year take long to get here,
Speaker 5: the year they were partnered with the Fresno Grizzlies. I mean,
Speaker 5: now is ridiculous. They had flights going back and forth.
Speaker 5: I guy on a plane in California and a guy
Speaker 5: on the on the plane back here.
Speaker 2: Makes a d The day you're supposed to come here,
Speaker 2: you're really not here till the next day here you're
Speaker 2: hearing what thirty minutes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you could get a place I don't know, right
Speaker 5: right about fifty nine and six ten, and you're right
Speaker 5: there in the middle. It's the same distance step you'reger Land,
Speaker 5: the same distance.
Speaker 2: Over to daykill exactly right. So but impressive, impressive, and
Speaker 2: it seems to be like yesterday. You know, you're getting
Speaker 2: two guys once again, Gordy and you and I both
Speaker 2: watched it. But for the people didn't who were they?
Speaker 2: Give me the bunch singles again. They ain't give me
Speaker 2: the names. I know, I know when they happened. The
Speaker 2: names again, it was Zach Short and Taylor Tremmel. Okay, Bunnett,
Speaker 2: the named Christian Walker, who struggled a lot of the
Speaker 2: year and is on fire playing pretty good baseball, now
Speaker 2: gets a hit to drive him in.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Caroten he popped out because I looked
Speaker 5: away for one second. I turn around and I said
Speaker 5: to Ross and said, who the hell's the out? He goes, Oh,
Speaker 5: Carotina popped out or whatever, and then Christian Walker comes through.
Speaker 5: Christian Walker had multiple hits every game.
Speaker 2: Of this year, that's right, and hit it hard. Okay,
Speaker 2: And then so with that, and then who gave me
Speaker 2: seven innings again? Walter? There you go? And who got
Speaker 2: out of a bass loaded jam?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 5: Well, Bennett's sussa created the problem. It's another thing too.
Speaker 2: Week created if we got the double play to end it.
Speaker 5: Wait a call a bitch about this too, How baseball
Speaker 5: you get the win because you messed up? You created
Speaker 5: the situation. Now you you went in with a lead.
Speaker 5: He went in with a three to one lead, came
Speaker 5: into the game, and he left the mound and we
Speaker 5: were tied three to three and you went.
Speaker 2: Up four to three and he gets to yeah, and
Speaker 2: sometimes you think, well, man, it's a nice tim and
Speaker 2: I got the dub. Now, if nobody looked at how
Speaker 2: he got the dub, you're saying, that's huge but still
Speaker 2: is but found a way to get out of it, right,
Speaker 2: which is something you have to do. Yeah, And so
Speaker 2: just you just the names I'm talking about, think about that,
Speaker 2: there's four names right there. At the beginning of the
Speaker 2: season you weren't counting on. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, and it was a day. It was a day
Speaker 5: where Bryce Matthews was over at the plate but still
Speaker 5: drove in a on and flash the leather. He helped
Speaker 5: turn the double play. He's been just he's been so
Speaker 5: good with that. Defensively and everything. He just looks like
Speaker 5: he belongs.
Speaker 2: The transformation from shortstop to second base doesn't seem kind
Speaker 2: of like Smith going from some to the third base
Speaker 2: or some other outfielder position to right field. It almost
Speaker 2: feels like, oh, this is just natural. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 2: second baseman. That's a right fielder for guys that Oh, man,
Speaker 2: I don't know. We'll see how he does. Defensively. I
Speaker 2: think you're in pretty good shape. He'll pick that up
Speaker 2: quickly and has and another guy that's contributed. And you
Speaker 2: could tell from Dana Brown's conversation yesterday Gordy when I
Speaker 2: had him. I don't know if you got to listen
Speaker 2: to it all with your schedule yesterday, but you can
Speaker 2: tell they weren't ready. They knew he was ready, but
Speaker 2: they weren't. The timing that they weren't ready to bring
Speaker 2: Brice S. Matthews up. Does that make sense to you?
Speaker 2: It wasn't. I mean, well he's he they would They
Speaker 2: wanted the comfort level. And Dana kind of hinted to
Speaker 2: it the basically and I paraphrase on my verbiage, but
Speaker 2: that it's happening. Just we're good, we don't need he
Speaker 2: comes up and well does this thing? What are you
Speaker 2: gonna do?
Speaker 5: But think when you put something in the microwave, it's
Speaker 5: is put in for two minutes and then a minute
Speaker 5: thirty you pop it out.
Speaker 2: It's good to go. The hot dog. The hot dog's
Speaker 2: ready exactly so, and you're like, okay, so does it
Speaker 2: still taste good? And comes in and delivers. But I
Speaker 2: don't think they expected or wanted to be in this situation.
Speaker 2: But that's been the theme of the season. Well, we
Speaker 2: didn't expect this. We didn't expect Lancema Cars. We didn't
Speaker 2: expect this. We didn't expect that. And yet eighteen games
Speaker 2: over five hundred and tied for the best record in
Speaker 2: the American League. And that includes who the Detroit Tigers.
Speaker 2: Yeah so and the freaking Yankees. That's the thing with
Speaker 2: the Blue they hand them another loss. Yankees are what
Speaker 2: four games back of the of the ALE lead, So
Speaker 2: it's there. I mean again, look on paper, what that
Speaker 2: yank the Yankees brought into the season. Most people pin
Speaker 2: them as the ALE favorites.
Speaker 5: Right, Tigers are ahead of schedule there, aj Hinch doing
Speaker 5: aj Hinch things up there, and and they're rocking it one.
Speaker 5: But never never would have thought astros in Blue Jays
Speaker 5: for the best record in America.
Speaker 2: And we know the Yankees are going to do something,
Speaker 2: try to do something. And they got a guy Aaron
Speaker 2: Judge Homeward won I think twice again last night. Dude,
Speaker 2: he's battling for a triple crown. Yeah, I mean his average.
Speaker 5: I mean, look, you can't how can you not as
Speaker 5: success of a postseason but regular season monster one of
Speaker 5: the best we've seen.
Speaker 2: Well, one of the best of all time when you
Speaker 2: look at the just the sheer numbers he in the
Speaker 2: time he's been he's been one of the best of
Speaker 2: all time in the regular sites. And now you're adding
Speaker 2: batting average to it.
Speaker 5: He's taking VP out there nights.
Speaker 2: Yes, and I think he's really you know what, he
Speaker 2: seems just like a really good dude to me, I
Speaker 2: really do. I think he's a I don't put it
Speaker 2: this way. I don't ever hear himself promoting. He just
Speaker 2: is a good teammate. Thirty seven home runs already, and
Speaker 2: the guy is in triple crown because it last time,
Speaker 2: who was the last guy to triple crown?
Speaker 6: Was it?
Speaker 2: Was it a Migey probably won the triple crown one year.
Speaker 2: I don't think we've seen it since. I know guys
Speaker 2: flirted with it, but it's pretty amazing seeing what he's doing.
Speaker 5: As much as we hate the Yankees, I'll give them credit.
Speaker 5: Like they're who's the last Yankee you got in trouble?
Speaker 5: You know, got busted for drug use, a dw I
Speaker 5: or whatever, like it's.
Speaker 2: The really you may just Yankees, but you don't really
Speaker 2: dislike the player. There's not what's not I mean, there's
Speaker 2: there's It's like when Jeter played you people, just Jeter
Speaker 2: never bothered me. The old guy that bothered me is
Speaker 2: we got base against the Red Sox on a regular base.
Speaker 2: I hated it, right, But if you just said, hey,
Speaker 2: Jeter wants to be a Red Sox, I'd have said,
Speaker 2: right side, yeah. Just like if you told me, hey,
Speaker 2: Aaron Gentus ra Angent wants to play in Houston, I'd say,
Speaker 2: how quickly can we get him? Regardless of what happened
Speaker 2: with the MVP at him and al Tuove and he
Speaker 2: that that dude two more home runs. It's just pretty
Speaker 2: amazing to watch. But you know they're gonna I can
Speaker 2: tell you the Dodgers are going to go all in too.
Speaker 2: You know that they're going to spend again at the
Speaker 2: trade deadline to see if they can pull something off
Speaker 2: to jump ahead with the Dodgers in their position. But
Speaker 2: the Yankees to see if they can live up to it,
Speaker 2: because in truth, with all that they've had since what
Speaker 2: too has it been since two thousand the last time
Speaker 2: they won a World Series? The Yankees fifteen ohne nine
Speaker 2: it was nine, right, they've been a couple. That's exactly right,
Speaker 2: and that was George Steinbrenner last year. Well he passed
Speaker 2: away in twenty ten, so think about that. They haven't
Speaker 2: won a World Series since George Steinberger passed away. That's
Speaker 2: a long time Gordy for them. So, you know, every year,
Speaker 2: so we look at them as underachievers because we always
Speaker 2: seem they're always favored either win or make the playoffs,
Speaker 2: win a division, make the playoffs, or beat in the
Speaker 2: World Series. And remember we're just well we're not even
Speaker 2: a year removed from the Dodgers beating them in the
Speaker 2: World Series.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well look, and that's okay. Yeah, you hate to
Speaker 5: see it for him. Yeah, what a bummer for them,
Speaker 5: all the money wasted and free agency and everything. It's
Speaker 5: a damn shame, all right. When we return, some names
Speaker 5: being flooded out there for the Astros in the trade deadline,
Speaker 5: we'll tell you who the latest names are and do
Speaker 5: they need to make a trade. We'll kick that around
Speaker 5: coming up next.
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Speaker 2: Show continued, Yeah, I are you more of a McCartney
Speaker 2: guy by himself and with the Wings or Beatles McCartney
Speaker 2: If I said you can have the Beatles at their
Speaker 2: best or McCartney at his best by himself, which you're
Speaker 2: going to be right in Wembley Stadium in London.
Speaker 5: That's exactly See he's going on tour, Yeah he is.
Speaker 5: This might be your last one to get a chance,
Speaker 5: because how old is Paul McCarty.
Speaker 2: Got to be in his eighties now upper seventies, early eighties,
Speaker 2: got to be in his mid upper seventies.
Speaker 5: It has to be eighty three.
Speaker 2: There you go. Yeah, I wouldn't imagine there's many more
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty day tours for Paul McCartney in
Speaker 2: the future. Not saying I mean he may live till
Speaker 2: he' one hundred and ten. I don't know, but at
Speaker 2: some point in time you probably say, you know what,
Speaker 2: traveling across the country and a bus and a plane
Speaker 2: and I'm ninety seven, I probably need to pass.
Speaker 5: When you get that age, you notice they add more
Speaker 5: and more backup singers on the stagel.
Speaker 2: Paul McCarty, the Beatles and seventy four other people in
Speaker 2: the in the chorus harmonizing with him. But yeah, the Beatles.
Speaker 2: I guess it's like a you know how somebody gets
Speaker 2: so much hype. No matter, well, we look at arch Manning.
Speaker 2: I'm not comparing to arch Betting to the Beatles. Still
Speaker 2: this understanding, but I could compare the Mania, I could
Speaker 2: compare Peyton to the to the beat it was pretty
Speaker 2: good at his career, right and the way people love him.
Speaker 2: But you think about this, no matter how good arch
Speaker 2: Manning is, can he ever live up to the hype
Speaker 2: Gordian College. You know what I'm saying, I mean that's big.
Speaker 2: I mean, you'd have to win a national championship in
Speaker 2: a Heisman Trophy this year. To live up to the
Speaker 2: Manning hype is what I.
Speaker 5: Was saying, keep saying, don't let them lose the week
Speaker 5: Losing Week one at Ohio State, no shame in that
Speaker 5: they're the rating actual champs and that's a tough place
Speaker 5: to play, right, But if they lose that game, the
Speaker 5: headline will be all all fluff and no sense. Up
Speaker 5: to the hype. Sarks in over his head, it's going
Speaker 5: to be ridiculous.
Speaker 2: And he goes those for four hundred and they win. Uh,
Speaker 2: the next great man, Oh yeah, well he'll walk on
Speaker 2: Heisman first pick of the draft. The best thing we've
Speaker 2: ever seen, there's no doubt so, and I'm not compared
Speaker 2: to it. But in a way, no matter what, after
Speaker 2: all this hype, I mean, there's no way you could
Speaker 2: ever live up to the way the Beatles are talked about.
Speaker 2: So even with all of it, and you're right, the
Speaker 2: the uh they're one, there's not You're not usually a
Speaker 2: tweener on the Beatles. It's like some people don't like
Speaker 2: them because all the hype, say, what's the big deal?
Speaker 2: They're walking you know, but they're the Beatles and at
Speaker 2: the time they had listen when Howard Cosell's announcing the
Speaker 2: death of the lead of the front man for the Beatles.
Speaker 2: When that happened on Monday Night Football, normally it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, they'd come, they wait till the next day
Speaker 2: and stuff. But it's in the middle of a live broadcast.
Speaker 2: He's breaking in as if the President of the United States,
Speaker 2: Yes at that time. So you know, the younger generation
Speaker 2: may not know unless that you think they could. They
Speaker 2: would break in and on Monday Night football if they
Speaker 2: passed away, that's alive right now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like a current artist.
Speaker 2: That's a hell of a question, it is, And I'm
Speaker 2: trying to think of you know, I think back then,
Speaker 2: it's like.
Speaker 5: If got no car crash and died, would they break
Speaker 5: into Monday Football with the news?
Speaker 2: No, they'd break into Sports Center after Monday Night Football.
Speaker 2: That would they would come and say? You know news?
Speaker 2: They would because pretty significant, right.
Speaker 5: Pop culture enough, that's the e in ESPN, the entertainment right.
Speaker 2: Oh you social media blow up with it immediately during
Speaker 2: the game, right, well, look look at we'll look at
Speaker 2: the guy we just lost. Had this happened during Monday
Speaker 2: Night Football, Ozzy Osbourne and Less of Court. Now Joe Buck,
Speaker 2: who I know loves music. If and Troy are doing it,
Speaker 2: Joe might have said, you know, we just got bad news,
Speaker 2: you know, in a break in the game. His producer
Speaker 2: might have gotten his ear director and say, hey, man,
Speaker 2: if you want to Ozzy Osborne has passed away. Now, also,
Speaker 2: how they pass Remember it was tragic for how Lennon's
Speaker 2: So how did it just.
Speaker 5: Been somebody's assassinated?
Speaker 2: Right right? If all of a sudden they're saying, hey,
Speaker 2: by the way, uh, you know, I don't know Carrie Underwood,
Speaker 2: Carry Underwood got shot in the you know, we don't
Speaker 2: want to somebody that you're like Drake George straight. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you might consider, like, oh my gosh, I think you would.
Speaker 2: But if he's in the hospital, you'd probably wait till
Speaker 2: after the game or something, or people on social media would.
Speaker 2: But that, you know what, I'm not real sure. That's
Speaker 2: a great question. Yes, I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't know if they're breaking in with that.
Speaker 2: No, but they did because at the time, the Beatles
Speaker 2: wore the icon. There's a lot of great artists. But
Speaker 2: we're at a point now, so thing news breaks before
Speaker 2: news breaks right, I would think Gordion. I'm trying to
Speaker 2: think who is the most popular who's the most popular
Speaker 2: global singer right now? Just say singer.
Speaker 5: Yeah it's tail Swift.
Speaker 2: Okay, perfect, there you go. Because of the day. Now
Speaker 2: there's an older generation making now no thanks, But if
Speaker 2: you have kids or grandkids, you're like, yeah, she's become
Speaker 2: popular again. So yes her if she was assassinated, well,
Speaker 2: you'd have to assassinate her in the ballpark because seventeen
Speaker 2: games of the Chiefs are on Monday night football and
Speaker 2: she's there in the press box. Somebody would have to
Speaker 2: shoot her like out of a movie at the press
Speaker 2: box because she's there. But if she got assassinated, like
Speaker 2: like like uh, they'd stop. Yes, that would be announced
Speaker 2: and people, yes, they would be It would be filled
Speaker 2: with tears. You know, people would go just I know
Speaker 2: when the next day, I mean when you go back
Speaker 2: and listen to people, because I was obviously young, but
Speaker 2: your family and you listen the way people talked about that,
Speaker 2: it's like it was it was as if the president
Speaker 2: of the United States was assassinated. Right, And I'm not
Speaker 2: I don't mean that they're equal, but in some people's eyes,
Speaker 2: they were matters. That's exactly. Yes, that's the perfect point.
Speaker 2: If that happened to Taylor Shift. I do believe Joe
Speaker 2: Buck and Troy Aikman would would absolutely cut into the
Speaker 2: game do it. But it's it's how that would happen
Speaker 2: if somebody was ill. They're praying form they think they
Speaker 2: may come up, but usually it's that Jim Nance dedication
Speaker 2: the year, you know, the week after or when it
Speaker 2: comes on the broadcast, they stop down our source. No,
Speaker 2: Jim will be the broadcaster that announces, like when they
Speaker 2: lose one of their production people. Right, No, Jim's not
Speaker 2: ready to go yet either. He lives, dude, He's loved
Speaker 2: to tell you two hundred he lives at Pebble Beach.
Speaker 2: The Good Lord's gonna say, you're gonna enjoy this view
Speaker 2: every day of your life. So but yeah, so so
Speaker 2: that's a make.
Speaker 5: You know, you think of her catalog on the just
Speaker 5: all the hits she's had, all the great hits, and
Speaker 5: our prayers go out to Travis Kelsey. Yes, that's right,
Speaker 5: but don't worry, folks, we're just talking. She's not gonna
Speaker 5: get shot in the booth. That again, Baltimore, How do
Speaker 5: you transition back to the game and.
Speaker 2: Howard Cosell and I remember you like, what in the
Speaker 2: world and you go back and listen to it, and
Speaker 2: Howard Cosell's voice it was, you know, it was broken up.
Speaker 2: It's obvious that Howard Cosell obviously loved himself. Some Beatles too, right,
Speaker 2: So I don't know. Trey Taylor Sweet, You're probably right.
Speaker 5: Randy just shouted, he said, what about Mick Jagger. Maybe
Speaker 5: Mick Jagger big enough if he passes during.
Speaker 2: A maybe maybe maybe Rolling Stones do I mean you're
Speaker 2: talking about iconic and I mean that, yeah, probably, But
Speaker 2: it also depends on how it happened if it was.
Speaker 2: If it was it was a long illness and then
Speaker 2: he passed away sometime during halftime or something. Yes, I
Speaker 2: do believe they'd come back in and say our heart
Speaker 2: felt to Rolling Stones front man, I do. He's eighty one, right,
Speaker 2: But if somebody was, if he was assassinated, like one
Speaker 2: of those where it was like an intentional thing. Oh,
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any doubt that they'd break in.
Speaker 2: But of all all of them, if Taylor Swift stubbed
Speaker 2: her toe, they announce it on Monday Night football, so yes,
Speaker 2: but I'll never forget the word people talk about.
Speaker 5: From break h Taylor Swift stubbed your toe.
Speaker 2: Well, Lance mccullors blister on her finger. If that happened
Speaker 2: to Taylor Swift, people would like, oh my gosh, what's
Speaker 2: the world coming to the apocalypse? And the zombies are
Speaker 2: walking through Arrowhead Stadium. So yeah, but the Beatles been,
Speaker 2: I guess it's hard to live up to all the
Speaker 2: pub probably the most publicized band in the history of music, right,
Speaker 2: I would say we went.
Speaker 5: To Liverpool a couple of years ago we did the
Speaker 5: Beatles tour. I mean, you have the pre order tickets.
Speaker 5: You can't even to do the.
Speaker 2: Beatles yet the people who don't like them absolutely do
Speaker 2: not like them, right, So that but that's but that's
Speaker 2: what any this like Taylor Swift. There's not a lot
Speaker 2: of middle sitters in Taylor Swift. It's either the young
Speaker 2: crowd or the older crowd that loves them to have kids,
Speaker 2: or the crowds. It's like, I'm not interested. This is
Speaker 2: bubblegum music and I'm not interested. And Taylor Jacket, well
Speaker 2: look at the T shirt. He says, I love I'm
Speaker 2: a Swift and tell you so. But but you know,
Speaker 2: damn what, he goes to the beat, but he can
Speaker 2: helmet for us. Yes, and right now, Taylor Swift just
Speaker 2: made another million dollars, So as we spill, that's exactly right,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 5: When we returned, we will get back to what we promised.
Speaker 5: Astro's trade deadline names be him thrown out there.
Speaker 2: We'll discuss that coming on next.
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Speaker 5: At one point they put up a graphic and it
Speaker 5: was like all time wins and it's Verlander, And I
Speaker 5: said to Matt Thomas said, that hasn't changed since he
Speaker 5: left the Astros.
Speaker 2: Right, it's the same number. First win there, I think,
Speaker 2: and Devor's homeward twice. Yeah, and they they got the
Speaker 2: win and Verlander got it. He's pushing two seventy now
Speaker 2: is then he was in there's the above two seventy?
Speaker 2: Is he sixty eight or two?
Speaker 5: It was like, he's yeah, somewhere in there, but he
Speaker 5: washing eight this season as a San Francisco Giant, So
Speaker 5: he gets his first win. He's not one in eight, eary, four, seventy.
Speaker 5: It's not not terrible.
Speaker 2: And for a team that's battling for a playoff spot, Yeah,
Speaker 2: which is odd.
Speaker 5: Do you think he's going to get to three hundred, Gordy,
Speaker 5: I don't know, man. He's forty three and that's.
Speaker 2: A lot of wins still to go. Okay, so he's
Speaker 2: in his two So he would have to average ten
Speaker 2: wins a year for the next three years. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: to get it. That's good. It's going to be tough sledding.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: He could now as a Hall of Famer, we know that.
Speaker 2: But to get to that that elusive three And I'm
Speaker 2: telling you right now, Gordy, there nobody right now since
Speaker 2: you've been alive that started pitching, since you came out
Speaker 2: of the womb, and right now the rest of your life,
Speaker 2: no matter if they started five years ago. Okay, who
Speaker 2: do you who's the best young pitcher in baseball? He
Speaker 2: may be the best pitching. It's Paul Skins, right Yeah,
Speaker 2: look at his record right now, considering no run support,
Speaker 2: he's not getting to three hundred wins. I want you
Speaker 2: to think he'd what's that fifteen wins? Uh? Fifteen wins?
Speaker 2: What twenty years. So what's twenty times fifteen, Gordy? Do
Speaker 2: the math? Isn't that twenty forty? That's three hundred, right?
Speaker 2: I the twenty forty sixty eight hundred, that's three hundred
Speaker 2: twenty wins fifteen years, you guy, or fifteen wins for
Speaker 2: twenty years. But twenty times fifteen if I now mistake
Speaker 2: is three hundred. If I lost my mind, you're correct. Okay,
Speaker 2: I was pretty good.
Speaker 5: With that calculator on my fight.
Speaker 2: I want that to be in millions for the money
Speaker 2: we're earning. Right, So three hundred wins as good as
Speaker 2: he is, and it also has you're a product of
Speaker 2: the team you're on. He ain't winning three hundred games
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh if they're gonna score like that for him.
Speaker 2: So you think about it. We're never having you know, C. C.
Speaker 2: Sabathia got closed. We're never having a three hundred game win. Now,
Speaker 2: never say never in sports, but think about what you
Speaker 2: have to do. We don't get two guys winning twenty
Speaker 2: games in a season anymore. But we would name Randy
Speaker 2: Johnson had three hundred and three wins. He's twenty second
Speaker 2: on the all time win forest. Right, So like I
Speaker 2: think you're right.
Speaker 5: I don't think we're gonna have another guy in our
Speaker 5: lifetime that gets to three hundred.
Speaker 2: And Gordy with the way we specialize. Now, we don't
Speaker 2: let guys you know, four and two thirds five, We
Speaker 2: don't let him extend and like, okay, it's tied, you've
Speaker 2: got you. You qualify for the win because you've got
Speaker 2: your five innings in. But the problem is that you're
Speaker 2: it's seven ninety pitches and while you could go another inning,
Speaker 2: we're specialized. We've got to get our sixth inning guy
Speaker 2: in there, and then you end up losing, so they
Speaker 2: don't let you fight back and come back and get
Speaker 2: a win. You know, Oh, we're tied in the fifth,
Speaker 2: but it's got ninety two pitches, so we're gonna go
Speaker 2: to our bullpen, and so somebody else is gonna get
Speaker 2: the woe what you mentioned last night when you set
Speaker 2: up the win and and a bullpen guy gets the
Speaker 2: looks like he's going to get the loss and turns
Speaker 2: around and gets the win because you score in the
Speaker 2: next inning. So we just does a specialization. It's not happening.
Speaker 2: Twenty wins for fifteen years, how many how many times
Speaker 2: in the last eight years is Justin Verlander won twenty
Speaker 2: games in a saya look that up. Yeah, and you're
Speaker 2: what are you gonna find one? Maybe if we're lucky
Speaker 2: is sixteen, seventeen, nineteen eight. We don't have five guys
Speaker 2: that are winning twenty games. The Baltimore Oroyls in the
Speaker 2: seventies had four guys on the same staff in the
Speaker 2: same year win twenty plus games.
Speaker 5: JV only had two seasons where he won twenty plus
Speaker 5: games in his career, twenty four in twenty eleven and
Speaker 5: twenty one in nineteen Here with the asters.
Speaker 2: Okay, and look at him. He's still struggling to get
Speaker 2: and he's in his forties. To get to three hundred,
Speaker 2: it's never happening. Man. The new barometer is two two
Speaker 2: hundred and ten wins or whatever.
Speaker 5: It's crazy to look. I mean like Maddox and Clements
Speaker 5: are top top ten. Maddis had three fifty five, Clemens
Speaker 5: at three fifty four.
Speaker 2: Now, now look how many years they pitched. Yeah at
Speaker 2: a time. Also, when you told them in the fifth
Speaker 2: inning they're coming out, guess what they do. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 2: Maddox would say, go back to the dug out I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get it as a tipper. Jones tells the story,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get this guy. I'm gonna throw him a
Speaker 2: two oh cutter and he's gonna file. He's gonna hit
Speaker 2: it to Chipper on a pop fly and what's hits
Speaker 2: it to Chip? Jones tells the story, It's like, you
Speaker 2: gotta be can Bobby Cox and and uh Leo Mazzonia
Speaker 2: and the Doug. I said, you're you're kidding me that
Speaker 2: Maddox still and if you do that, Clemens would have
Speaker 2: thrown a fastball at you. Why you came out to
Speaker 2: get him out, just like Randy Johnson would have. So
Speaker 2: it's changed, but it's not happening. So Verlander all that time,
Speaker 2: you're like, we're one hundred games in and he finally
Speaker 2: got his win. He ain't getting three hundred unless he
Speaker 2: goes on a heater for three years, and that's hard
Speaker 2: to do in your early forties.
Speaker 5: Tom Glavin, he's twenty first of three oh five, and
Speaker 5: like I said, Reddy Johnson, twenty second three oh three,
Speaker 5: I just don't I don't think we'll ever have guys
Speaker 5: get that man get that many wins.
Speaker 2: Great, it's really tough because of the specialization. So what
Speaker 2: were you teasing real quick so we can get ready?
Speaker 2: What would we talk about about the Ashleys you were
Speaker 2: talking about?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Teas's three segments, Astro's trade deadline names.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, got you got you some of the ones
Speaker 2: we've talked about. But is there a few more thrown
Speaker 2: into the fray?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Justin Verlin? You wanna put him on list?
Speaker 2: No, No, Paul though he bodies. They're pitching pretty good.
Speaker 5: Brice mat Ladder or.
Speaker 2: Walter, I'll out stick you have Verlader stay there right, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Bryce Matthew's gonna help you get some wins. Shay Whitcomb
Speaker 5: gonna help you get some more wins.
Speaker 2: JV may help you get some players. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: about more wins from some other picture, but gonna be interesting.
Speaker 2: They're gonna do something. The question Dan Brown told me yesterday,
Speaker 2: real quick, Gordy that it was. I said, are you
Speaker 2: in the rental business? He said, if we have to be, Yeah,
Speaker 2: if it if it's there, you go. Oh, we are
Speaker 2: not closing any door, Yeah, which means yes, we're taking
Speaker 2: all calls, but I'm not going to give you any
Speaker 2: extra inside. But yeah, at least if it's considered, because
Speaker 2: you know, renolds sometimes become a problem. But you know what,
Speaker 2: if it's going to help you win a World Series,
Speaker 2: I guess then you make that move as long as
Speaker 2: you don't have to mortgage your youth and your franchise.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 5: We will get into that.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: Names to watch for the Astros so the deadline looming.
Speaker 5: Will discuss that next hour too at the Seawan Salisbury Show.
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Speaker 5: a lot about our Houston Astros are American League leading
Speaker 5: Houston Astros. After they sweep the Diamondbacks and now they
Speaker 5: come home for a seven game set at home at
Speaker 5: dyke In Park with the A's and the Nats coming
Speaker 5: to town. Two Struggling teams out there, so we will
Speaker 5: we'll get into some more Astros conversation throughout the show. Also,
Speaker 5: Texans hit the practice field yesterday. I got out there
Speaker 5: for a little while watching observing some practice. I'll give
Speaker 5: you some takeaways what I saw out there. But we're
Speaker 5: teasday before the break, Shawn. The trade deadline is looming
Speaker 5: and there are a lot of pieces out there, a
Speaker 5: lot of rumblings on who should add what and all
Speaker 5: that sort of stuff, and a lot of people wondering
Speaker 5: should the Astros make a move? This is July thirty first,
Speaker 5: So what is that is that a week from today,
Speaker 5: week from today at five pm Central will be the
Speaker 5: trade deadline.
Speaker 2: So and by the way, Gordon, I mean interrupt, just
Speaker 2: to put a closure on at Verlander thing. Do you
Speaker 2: realize not just eighth to eight this year, that's sixteen
Speaker 2: game losing streak he was on. I met he was
Speaker 2: on a sixteen game losing skid before he got the win.
Speaker 2: I digress. But yes, some of those names that are
Speaker 2: gonna come up, it's what we say. You said, five
Speaker 2: o'clock Central next Thursday, a week from today.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well real quick, cy young, do you know how
Speaker 5: many wins he had.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I felt like I was gonna say over
Speaker 2: four hundred, So it was over five five hundred eleven.
Speaker 2: Guess what record's safe that will never be broken in
Speaker 2: the guy like, yeah, what he back to nine innings
Speaker 2: at double headers and all that stuff. Craziness, But that's
Speaker 2: a rubber arm br and the cal Ripken consecutive starts,
Speaker 2: that's definite. In these days of rest and everything, there's
Speaker 2: no there's not going to be anybody that gets within
Speaker 2: half of that from here on forward. You just won't
Speaker 2: allow we need a day of rest. Well, the guy's
Speaker 2: hitting four seventy seventy five games in and he's twenty four.
Speaker 2: Do you really want it? Does he really need a
Speaker 2: day off? Yeah, we got to get him a day's rest. Well,
Speaker 2: that ends that streak. I mean, can you imagine how
Speaker 2: many times they came to Ripkin like, dude, uh, you
Speaker 2: want to take a day off? Don't even talk. At
Speaker 2: the point, I'm sure the manager's like, you know what,
Speaker 2: don't even address.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it starts getting so the numbers, Street's getting so big.
Speaker 5: You're like, hell, no, I'm not missiving.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be the guy a bench and
Speaker 2: you also don't want to be the band I'm the
Speaker 2: one who's screwed up the street. No, when they got
Speaker 2: to the one when Cal decides he needs a day off,
Speaker 2: it'll probably be the last day of his career, which
Speaker 2: I love about him.
Speaker 5: I remember Drew Brees was on the way to breaking
Speaker 5: the consecutive start streak, and then I think it was
Speaker 5: that that Super Bowl year they ended up. You know,
Speaker 5: they already wrapped up the division, seating was done all that,
Speaker 5: and their last regular season game they started bark Burnell
Speaker 5: and most fans were like, why not just put Breeze
Speaker 5: out there, let him go, hands it off a couple
Speaker 5: of times, and then pull them. I get that. I
Speaker 5: think some people are like, oh, that ruins the integrity
Speaker 5: of the number of this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes you look like it's about you and selfish.
Speaker 2: But it still was like, nobody will come from this far.
Speaker 2: Keep it going, go treat it like preseason. Let him
Speaker 2: hand it off six times and get him out of
Speaker 2: the game. But anyway, it's just one of the durabilities.
Speaker 2: I was in voting like Verlander, and I want to
Speaker 2: get to your topic. But if you're voting for me, Gordy,
Speaker 2: if I was voting for an MVP or voting for
Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame. Durability matters to me. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. As good as Joel embiid is,
Speaker 2: forty five games a year doesn't do much for me, right,
Speaker 2: But the guy that shows up in every day and
Speaker 2: even when he's struggling or going good, he's not begging
Speaker 2: for the dead. I know you need him in. The
Speaker 2: times have changed, but there's certain things that don't have
Speaker 2: to change, and a guy's commitment to I'm getting paid,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna show up to work. Yeah, there's certain streaks
Speaker 2: you'll never see, and that that consecutive game streaks, you know,
Speaker 2: and and far of obviously durable and Peyton man Eli
Speaker 2: Manning doesn't get enough credit for his durability. Manning's were
Speaker 2: extremely durable during their career. And Justin Verlander has been
Speaker 2: one of those guys as well for the most part.
Speaker 2: I know he's had arm surgery and the rest of it,
Speaker 2: but it's a it's a you can play into your forties,
Speaker 2: the Aaron Rodgers of the world, the Warren Moons and
Speaker 2: the Brady's. It's pretty fantastic because that's a horror Hey,
Speaker 2: people walk across the street and or get a hang
Speaker 2: now and miss ten games. Those cats are getting their
Speaker 2: brains beat in and still showing up. Yeah, a blister's
Speaker 2: not keeping a football playoff fifteen days or could you
Speaker 2: imagine going to Connor McDavid and saying, hey, dude, how's
Speaker 2: that blister on your on your low hand, left hand,
Speaker 2: low on your hockey stick? Well, it's big and it's bleeding.
Speaker 2: Well you want to cut out and take three days off?
Speaker 2: It's like, uh, I don't think so, I think I'm
Speaker 2: gonna mat matter of fact, how about this stick across
Speaker 2: your head?
Speaker 5: So we just got word. Gregor will not fight in
Speaker 5: his next upcoming fight. He has a blister.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yeah, yeah, his uh he's got a little
Speaker 2: ssiatic nerve problem that uh, he's kept him awake last night.
Speaker 2: He's gonna miss four months. So yeah, but I guess crooked, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the favorite. Well, he's got a kink at his deck,
Speaker 2: which means he was out drinking too long. And you
Speaker 2: know one of those that's my favorite. Well, you know what,
Speaker 2: h he cut his he cut his finger because he
Speaker 2: was doing dishes. Get the hell out of here. He
Speaker 2: would put his finger in dishes. The dude was drunk,
Speaker 2: and damn you're severed.
Speaker 5: To thes fought off off a night of drinking. I
Speaker 5: guarantee he has.
Speaker 2: Dude, I played football with guys that drank himself to
Speaker 2: sleep the night before, woke up the next day and
Speaker 2: had a great game. Matter of fact, in the old
Speaker 2: school days, we were we were we were given beer
Speaker 2: in Seattle when I was a rookie, we were given
Speaker 2: the The snack the night before was burgers and fry.
Speaker 2: You know, you'd have the snack the night before on
Speaker 2: a Saturday night, the you're nine o'clock meeting at night.
Speaker 2: Chuck knocks philosophy was simple, basically, if you throw it,
Speaker 2: and this was his quote, if you're gonna throw the
Speaker 2: ball over the fence, make sure you can go get it.
Speaker 2: And we had a tub of beer Heinek. I can
Speaker 2: remember it was Heineken, and it might have been one
Speaker 2: of the local beers or another beer. And you'd walk
Speaker 2: out and I a couple team they would just take
Speaker 2: a six pack go to their room because that would
Speaker 2: help them sleep. Right. Chuck just said, be a pro
Speaker 2: and so you'd get your burger. You'd do it. If
Speaker 2: you wanted to eat during snacks. Some guys would do
Speaker 2: it and take their beer and burger to their room.
Speaker 2: We weren't giving soda if you wanted. So there was
Speaker 2: beer available the night before a game, which meant, don't
Speaker 2: be an idiot and had you're not shown. But I
Speaker 2: know guys that could drink six or eight pack of
Speaker 2: beer or the six pack of beer, you know, and
Speaker 2: it helped them sleep and wake up the next day
Speaker 2: and play their ass off. And as long as you
Speaker 2: did that. Chuck did have problem, but he did have
Speaker 2: the quote, if you're gonna throw the ball over the fence,
Speaker 2: make sure you can go get it. And so times
Speaker 2: have changed, my man. Yeah, change encouraging a heineke in
Speaker 2: the night before so you could relax, as opposed to
Speaker 2: how dare you you drank one beer? Goes to he
Speaker 2: was drunk and passing out and throwing up right, that's
Speaker 2: how people would view it if you didn't play well
Speaker 2: the next day.
Speaker 5: But well, Greg Cook used to tell stories of what
Speaker 5: falling out of a car and then like being at
Speaker 5: practice the next day.
Speaker 2: It's a great time. I remember.
Speaker 5: Players.
Speaker 2: I can remember we were at college in spring practice.
Speaker 2: One year we had a defensive lineman who was the
Speaker 2: hell of player. I'll leave his name out in college
Speaker 2: and we're out on the practice field getting ready to
Speaker 2: doing stretching lines, and he walked by him and he'd say, hi,
Speaker 2: was a great and everybody loved him and a great player.
Speaker 2: But you know, it was one of those spring practice venders.
Speaker 2: He went and had himself a few drinks in the
Speaker 2: sun shining in southern California and he's at his gear
Speaker 2: and it's like, how much booze did you have before
Speaker 2: you got your three point stance? And he performed and
Speaker 2: nobody said anything, but you wouldn't nowadays people were like,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, what's what's going on with you? Out
Speaker 2: a hand. They didn't cause anybody any trouble. The guy
Speaker 2: just drank before or spring practice because he really didn't
Speaker 2: need to compete for his job because he was like
Speaker 2: an All American.
Speaker 5: So you see Demico getting up there. Yeah, guys, look,
Speaker 5: Joe Mixon is not a practice today. He went not
Speaker 5: drinking last night. Yeah yeah, in a night of foolishness.
Speaker 2: So and even if he did, that would not be
Speaker 2: the reason why that came to He's got the flu,
Speaker 2: so so give me some names, Gordy, what are we
Speaker 2: looking at you?
Speaker 5: So Ryan McMahon is one of the big names. They
Speaker 5: were saying that a Rockies, right, yeah, the Mariners, Yankees
Speaker 5: and Astros could be interested in. Now we brought his
Speaker 5: name up yesterday. He is batting two seventeen on the year,
Speaker 5: I mean batting averages yuck. But he does have the
Speaker 5: sixteen home runs, he does have the thirty five runs
Speaker 5: batted in. And you know, some people have phoned out
Speaker 5: there that okay, the Astros with the need of estac
Speaker 5: paratus being out, you know, and they've they've said right
Speaker 5: that they think it's a serious injury. Now what's serious?
Speaker 5: You know, is it, oh, it's just a really strong
Speaker 5: hamstring strain, or as Ross was saying yesterday, is it
Speaker 5: off the bone, you know, attached that it's gonna be
Speaker 5: take a fault, that's a recovery out.
Speaker 2: If that's the case, then you're not seeing him for
Speaker 2: a long time. Right.
Speaker 5: So that's what we just don't know. But the fact
Speaker 5: they've said serious injury or it's pretty serious, I mean
Speaker 5: they've intimated that this maybe isn't a he misses a
Speaker 5: month and he's back in September thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a difference between a torn pull and strain.
Speaker 2: Those are three different levels, I assure you, And the
Speaker 2: first one is the one you did the T word,
Speaker 2: the torn that you don't want it because if it
Speaker 2: is off the bone, then those are the type of
Speaker 2: guys you don't see the rest of the year.
Speaker 5: So McMahon's out there, what are you willing to.
Speaker 2: Give up for him? Gordy? Okay, let's say to what
Speaker 2: are you willing to give up?
Speaker 5: Well, let me give you the hemline. The Maritters and
Speaker 5: Yankees are heavy interest. So if they're showing heavy interest,
Speaker 5: they're not going to take a call from the Astros
Speaker 5: to go, We'll give you chant McCormick, get a bag
Speaker 5: of chips, like they're gonna want a haul.
Speaker 2: They're gonna want the case of chips, right, not just
Speaker 2: a bag.
Speaker 5: And this is where I get into like, your top
Speaker 5: prospects are here, they're playing, right, Matthews is here, like
Speaker 5: so like that's the players that they would be asking for,
Speaker 5: and it's like, you're not gonna give those guys up.
Speaker 5: So that's where I just wonder how how much of
Speaker 5: a player will the Astros be? Another one I saw
Speaker 5: out there Padre is looking to move Dylan Ceese for
Speaker 5: multiple major league baseball players. So you could have Dylan Ceasee,
Speaker 5: but you're giving up multiple big league players for him.
Speaker 2: I wanted to cease remember when all the talk was
Speaker 2: when he was in the White Sox and he was available,
Speaker 2: and before I wanted I would have loved the Dylan
Speaker 2: Ceese when there was even Shadowell do you jump in
Speaker 2: on him? And what's gonna cost and the rest, and
Speaker 2: then obviously ends up there. I'd love to have him.
Speaker 2: But if you're the Padres, that guy's got cy young stuff,
Speaker 2: and on a team like this, that's one of those
Speaker 2: you think, well, he's gonna rear his head because that's
Speaker 2: what they do when they come to Houston. I'd be
Speaker 2: willing to give up. But the problem is, like you said,
Speaker 2: it's not gonna be one, it's not gonna be two.
Speaker 2: It's a haul. And because he's in the prime of
Speaker 2: his career, it's not like he's thirty seven and winding down.
Speaker 2: Dylan Ceese is still he's got a lot of great
Speaker 2: pitching left in him. So if you're the Padres and
Speaker 2: you're moving him, you're taking on money. But you're also
Speaker 2: taking on a good way, and but you're gonna have
Speaker 2: to give quite a bit up to get him, And
Speaker 2: you're exactly what are you willing to And normally it's
Speaker 2: going to be a bunch of young studs and a
Speaker 2: couple players, right, And he is a rental.
Speaker 5: He's on a one year, thirteen point seven million dollar deal.
Speaker 5: But again that you read this report, it says the
Speaker 5: Padres sit in the third walk cart spot. They are
Speaker 5: certainly buyers in front of the trade deadline. It might
Speaker 5: surprise some onlookers to hear that the Padres are dangling
Speaker 5: Dylan Cease. He finished fourth n l SI voting last year.
Speaker 5: But the talent is there and he's still only twenty
Speaker 5: nine years old. But their mindset is they are looking
Speaker 5: for multiple useful MLB pieces in return for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm trying to think on this team, well,
Speaker 2: some of their multiple players are injured, so that may
Speaker 2: not be part of it. Yeah. Yeah, And I'm assuming
Speaker 2: that means guys like Bryce Matthews we're here playing. Are
Speaker 2: you willing to part with them to get a cy
Speaker 2: young type guy?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 2: And that's that's my biggest problem.
Speaker 5: You could hit free agency and you have fromber walk
Speaker 5: out the door and see swalk out the door.
Speaker 2: And if we're giving up four or five players for him,
Speaker 2: I agreed, that's a tough one unless you could you
Speaker 2: knew that he say, yeah, I'm up for a good extension.
Speaker 2: You extended, but you know what that extension is going.
Speaker 6: To be.
Speaker 2: A lot more than oh yeah, that's exactly.
Speaker 5: Right, something that would make you go, why didn't we
Speaker 5: just give that the front that's right?
Speaker 2: And then so and then you end up losing too
Speaker 2: and giving up a lot of prospects or and or
Speaker 2: players that are impacting your team. It's that they're in
Speaker 2: a unique situation because teams like this, meaning the Astros
Speaker 2: aren't supposed to be eighteen games over five hundred with
Speaker 2: all these injuries. They're supposed to be in a cell mode. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 2: quite the opposite though, because most teams that have that
Speaker 2: kind of injuries, you're like, Okay, we'll see you next year.
Speaker 2: Let's go get some players and get rid of some
Speaker 2: of this salary. Not the Astros. All these injuries and
Speaker 2: they're still tied for the best record in the American
Speaker 2: League and eighteen games over over five hundred, So they
Speaker 2: are they are the anomaly, this is this is the aberration,
Speaker 2: This isn't the this isn't the norm. What the Astros
Speaker 2: are doing?
Speaker 5: What more, keep an eye on Charlie Morton's name has
Speaker 5: been floated out there.
Speaker 2: At the Boy Boy Dan Matthews has been talking about
Speaker 2: him for a month.
Speaker 5: He's a Baltimore oriole and it's not going great there.
Speaker 5: He's signed a one year, fifteen million dollar deal with them,
Speaker 5: but he's five and eight record wise, and wins aren't everything.
Speaker 5: But a five fifty eighty RAS last time out against
Speaker 5: Tampa he gave up seven earned at five and a
Speaker 5: third inning. Now prior to that, his his ten starts
Speaker 5: prior to that, we're all pretty damn strong. So overall
Speaker 5: he's been pretty good this year. But again it's just
Speaker 5: it's a little I mean, a guy in the ra
Speaker 5: close to six. What are you giving up for that?
Speaker 2: Right? Well, that's the difference is if you're going after
Speaker 2: I got, it's probably not going to cost you as
Speaker 2: much as obviously a Dylan Cees and it's going to
Speaker 2: be forty two. Yeah, this year, I was going to say,
Speaker 2: how much more time is Charlie going to be doing this?
Speaker 2: But what I mean, he just kind of he posts
Speaker 2: all the time. I mean, if you could get him
Speaker 2: for a cheap price, it'd be great, because I'm sure
Speaker 2: he'd pitch well here. But at forty two, I would
Speaker 2: imagine he's not long for many more starts in Major
Speaker 2: League Baseball in the next five years.
Speaker 5: This where if you're Danny, You're looking in the house
Speaker 5: and go, you know what, Brandon Walters giving us a chance,
Speaker 5: Colton Gordon's give us a chance. Maybe just standing pat
Speaker 5: at the trade deadline and keeping our places and getting
Speaker 5: all these other guys healthy is the best.
Speaker 2: Move you can then find in a way, if you
Speaker 2: want to go in on frombor, you can. If not,
Speaker 2: then you got to start to develop another offseason plan
Speaker 2: for another front line left he probably.
Speaker 5: La guy and Triple A's killing it. I mean, it's
Speaker 5: this the farm's pack. Do you stand pat with the
Speaker 5: farm and keep developing, or do you go pull for
Speaker 5: pull a trigger and get rid of them all for
Speaker 5: nones at the big league level.
Speaker 2: I just the only way you do that is if
Speaker 2: you were guaranteed a championship. Then there is no guarantee. Yeah.
Speaker 5: The more I just think about it and people will yell, oh,
Speaker 5: they're being cheap. Oh there, Oh, you're not being aggressive
Speaker 5: all this. I think the aggressive move is to stand
Speaker 5: pat and stick with which you got, because look at you.
Speaker 5: You're leading the American League right now with what you got.
Speaker 2: And I actually think it takes probably more guts to
Speaker 2: do that right now, Gordy, in this situa, don't you
Speaker 2: thinking that you're still relying. And it also sends a
Speaker 2: level of confidence, and you're telling your team, regardless of
Speaker 2: the injuries, we believe what's going on here and if
Speaker 2: they get healthy. That's like having three or four guys
Speaker 2: you just landed in free agency. Yeah, we will see,
Speaker 2: all right, Well we were should I say trade deadline,
Speaker 2: not even free agency, But that's like, that's like you
Speaker 2: just landed Jordan and and uh Christian Javier in a trade,
Speaker 2: right because you haven't had him for the most part
Speaker 2: all year.
Speaker 5: Dan, it's gonna drop that line on you. Get ready
Speaker 5: for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's coming, Sean. This is like a trade. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there you go. We get the big left handed back.
Speaker 2: We just got one of the best players in baseball.
Speaker 2: We didn't really have to trade for him. He's here, he's.
Speaker 5: Gonna go healthy. Hang in there, Astros fans, We're coming,
Speaker 5: We're coming. All right, let's grab a quick time out.
Speaker 5: We'll come back. We've got plenty more to get into.
Speaker 5: I gotta give you some takeaways from Texans camp. All
Speaker 5: we saw their overreaction to day one of training camp.
Speaker 5: We'll bring that to you coming up next.
Speaker 1: Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety.
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Speaker 5: Sean Salisbury Show here on Sports Talk seven ninety is
Speaker 5: the Salisbury Stakeout and Sean. Texans hit the practice field
Speaker 5: yesterday and one of my just immediate observations was they
Speaker 5: better put Nico Collins in bubble wrap because outside of him,
Speaker 5: I don't feel very good about any of these other
Speaker 5: receivers on this roster. Ken one, if not two rookie
Speaker 5: wide receivers, be two guys you heavily rely on this season.
Speaker 2: If you're CJ. Strau, Yeah, they play like Nikua when
Speaker 2: he came out of what BYU with the rams? Was
Speaker 2: it BYU?
Speaker 3: The y?
Speaker 2: Yeah? If you can, if I can get that from them,
Speaker 2: sure of course, and maybe you will. But I never
Speaker 2: want me to hang my hat on rookies being that guy. Now,
Speaker 2: there's always that hope part, and you draft them for
Speaker 2: potential and hope that they can, but they're going to
Speaker 2: be forced in to happen to play and do something now.
Speaker 2: And so in truth, Gordy, if I said to you
Speaker 2: going in before you went to practice, what's the perceived
Speaker 2: weakness on this team, and it's not even perceived going
Speaker 2: into this season, is how's the offensive line going to play? Right?
Speaker 2: How are they gonna lose in Tunsil? They obviously self
Speaker 2: inflicted pre snap penalties, all the crap that went on.
Speaker 2: And yet you got five guys And I've always said,
Speaker 2: if I had a Hall of Famer and four average
Speaker 2: other average offensive lineman or no Hall of Famer and
Speaker 2: five solid players that are there, give me that group
Speaker 2: over the guys with one star and four hacks if
Speaker 2: that was the case. Right, Well, so you're hoping you've
Speaker 2: upgraded the position and they say they want to be
Speaker 2: nastier and do all that, and let's hope. But that
Speaker 2: was going in the perceived weakness and probably still is
Speaker 2: until they prove who they are. But the sneaky weakness
Speaker 2: and you make a great point and you're out there
Speaker 2: seeing it. So I'm anxious to see what moved you
Speaker 2: and why you think that, other than the fact that
Speaker 2: they're rookies, is they are one injury away from you
Speaker 2: from that position possibly becoming a weakness.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I know, we think, well, you've got great running game,
Speaker 2: and with Mixing and Chubb, you've got a quarterback that
Speaker 2: should elevate the other receivers and make them better. But
Speaker 2: it still comes down to you still got to have
Speaker 2: guys that know how to get open and beat coverage.
Speaker 2: And as a rookie, you're still learning how to get
Speaker 2: out of the huddle, let alone what the coverage is,
Speaker 2: and how to beat man and zone and get off
Speaker 2: the press coverage all those things. So I'm hoping that's
Speaker 2: a little more hope there because you're exactly right, well,
Speaker 2: that star is a wide receiver. Can Christian Kirk and
Speaker 2: these rookies elevate that is a position to watch and
Speaker 2: hope to the good Lord that you don't have an
Speaker 2: injury a high ankle sprain to a guy like Nico
Speaker 2: Collins for a mo up. So I'm curious of what
Speaker 2: you saw there. They made you think you know what,
Speaker 2: it validates your concern.
Speaker 5: Well, it just when you see Nico Collins in action.
Speaker 5: I mean, he is a he is a bona fide
Speaker 5: top ten receiver in this league now, and it's it's
Speaker 5: incredible that that happened, because if you just said that
Speaker 5: his first year or two in the league, and I'll
Speaker 5: be like, you're nuts. But he is emerged and he
Speaker 5: has developed, and I mean you may even make a
Speaker 5: case our top five receiver in the league.
Speaker 2: Nico Collins. He's that good and he's a physical beast too.
Speaker 5: But Tank Dell ain't coming out of street close this year.
Speaker 5: I mean he ain't. He ain't gonna play football.
Speaker 2: Feels like.
Speaker 5: Christian Kirk, nice journeyman, but a little small John Metchi
Speaker 5: will be waiting on that train until the sun comes
Speaker 5: up on. Is this the year that John Metchi emerges It?
Speaker 5: Maybe he does, maybe the it clicks. But Xavier Hudge,
Speaker 5: I think is no more than a three or four
Speaker 5: at best in this league. So you really start to
Speaker 5: look at and it starts with Jayden Higgins six four,
Speaker 5: two twenty out of Iowa State. It got the deal
Speaker 5: done with him your second round pick. I just look
Speaker 5: at Jaden Higgins. Oh God, they're putting a lot of
Speaker 5: eggs in the basket of Jayden Higgins emerging as a
Speaker 5: true stud rookie.
Speaker 2: And putting a lot of pressure on the quarterback to
Speaker 2: make sure that they get involved regularly. And that can
Speaker 2: happen if but it's you know, run game's gonna uh
Speaker 2: enhance that or not, but on this team, it should
Speaker 2: enhance it. So I go back to the offseason and say,
Speaker 2: did they do enough for you? Would you have liked
Speaker 2: them to go get a guy like Cooper Cup when
Speaker 2: he was available.
Speaker 5: Well, I just look at the We're watching Sports Center
Speaker 5: here and they're showing Stefan Diggs at Patriots camp, and
Speaker 5: I'm going, why the hell did they make that trade
Speaker 5: for him and then rework the deal to take years
Speaker 5: off the deal he was if you'd have just traded
Speaker 5: for him and inherited that contract. And I get it,
Speaker 5: there was a much guaranteed money and he wanted guaranteed
Speaker 5: money and all that, but like also say, d you're
Speaker 5: under contract, you're coming back next year. The fact they
Speaker 5: reworked it to a one year deal, and he gets hurt.
Speaker 5: You had Stefan Digster half a year.
Speaker 2: And especially since you didn't sign him as a free age,
Speaker 2: didn't you traded for him? Yeah, you gave up a
Speaker 2: first rounder, right, you traded for him. So what obligation
Speaker 2: do I have to Well, i'm going to trade for you.
Speaker 2: You're coming here, or you just sit out and you're
Speaker 2: not gonna get paid. But you're coming here. Why would
Speaker 2: I take away years on his contract only to because
Speaker 2: if he had a great year, he was going to
Speaker 2: cost you more if he had an average year. But
Speaker 2: you said, well, there's potential if he gets hurt. At
Speaker 2: least he's und a contract. We don't have to worry
Speaker 2: about it in the off season. Every advantage you did
Speaker 2: when you traded him you gave to him. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: gave him every ounce of leverage to get out because.
Speaker 5: It would give a path sets to get him.
Speaker 2: It would sure be nice. And you know Drake May's
Speaker 2: counting on him in New England, right, it would be
Speaker 2: sure nice to say, oh, he's healthy and ready to
Speaker 2: practice and he's under contract. Then you didn't have to
Speaker 2: pay him anymore. That was one of the odd things.
Speaker 2: What was he not going to show up if you
Speaker 2: didn't rip up his contract and give him one year, Well,
Speaker 2: then he doesn't get paid. He was under contract and
Speaker 2: you gave him an easy out and then with the injury,
Speaker 2: so basically you got him what for half season and
Speaker 2: a first round pick is what it costs you?
Speaker 5: Right, well, second round, second round. But they did that
Speaker 5: weird thing where they had the first round and they
Speaker 5: traded back. Oh okay, gotcha, I think got the second
Speaker 5: right whatever, But it was the top.
Speaker 2: It was you know, you're talking about a top forty
Speaker 2: player in college, right type of thing that the least
Speaker 2: that's going in you gave up a significant pick for him,
Speaker 2: is the point.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they chose this is from me and Rappaport
Speaker 5: reported the Texans restructured Digs his four year contract extension
Speaker 5: from the Bills in twenty twenty two, with had two
Speaker 5: years remaining. They restructured that into a one year, twenty
Speaker 5: two million dollar game.
Speaker 2: And that maybe is salary cap stuff, because you know
Speaker 2: redo it's like you'll ask a player, hey, can we
Speaker 2: redo your deal. We're not asking you to take money away.
Speaker 2: We'll actually give you more upfront if we can redo
Speaker 2: the deal in the cap. Whatever. The reason, he was
Speaker 2: under contract and guess where he'd be right now, had
Speaker 2: you not done that he'd rehabbed, he'd be here, he'd
Speaker 2: be coming back for year two, and you'd have two
Speaker 2: number ones on your staff.
Speaker 5: I just wanted Digs for two years. This could have
Speaker 5: been a second year.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 5: He did sign a three year, sixty three million dollar
Speaker 5: deal in this saf season with the Patriots. A little
Speaker 5: bit of a gamble for a guy who's not a
Speaker 5: spring chicken. He's thirty one years older, turned thirty two
Speaker 5: later this year. But I still would have loved to
Speaker 5: have the If I'm CJ. Stroud and Tamika Ryan's I
Speaker 5: would have loved to have the luxury to know I've
Speaker 5: got a stud right there next to Nico Collins. I
Speaker 5: don't have to worry about And.
Speaker 2: Guess what for Diggs, who's going farther this year to
Speaker 2: say it's a better team. So but I understand the money,
Speaker 2: but boy did you cater to him? And it was
Speaker 2: a costly one. And you're hoping now now you're more
Speaker 2: on the hope than the production. And he was actually
Speaker 2: having a good year. Yeah, he was playing pretty good
Speaker 2: for Yeah.
Speaker 5: No, he was great. Yeah, and no off field issues
Speaker 5: or anything any.
Speaker 2: Name the team captain. Yeah, there's awesome. Yeah, it's a bummer.
Speaker 2: It's a bummer. Now you're counting on a couple of
Speaker 2: rookies to step up and they're going to have to.
Speaker 5: Hey, Matt Campbell, hopefully you developed these receivers. We now
Speaker 5: have three Iowa state wide receivers on this team.
Speaker 2: It's obvious that Nick Cassario likes Matt Campbell players. That's
Speaker 2: that's a damn truth, right the Yeah, well, hopefully they
Speaker 2: emerge when we return.
Speaker 5: I'll give you a few more takeaways what I saw
Speaker 5: out there at Texans camp yesterday. Training camp officially underway football.
Speaker 5: A week from tonight, we will have the Hall of
Speaker 5: Fame game, so it is upon us more Sewn Salisbury show.
Speaker 4: Right after this, I had to live there for the
Speaker 4: Seawan Salisbury Show continued, Ready.
Speaker 5: To go and that sort of thing. But for the
Speaker 5: most part, it sounds like even the guys that are out,
Speaker 5: you know, it's not super serious, like they're they're gonna
Speaker 5: be back pretty soon, and for the most part, pretty
Speaker 5: damn pretty damn healthy. I think was a WEX tweeted out.
Speaker 5: He said, uh, you know, of outing everybody that was
Speaker 5: out there. Christian Harris, the only player on the active
Speaker 5: roster that he didn't see a practice. I mean, it's
Speaker 5: everybody was that Nick Chubb was running out there with
Speaker 5: the running backs full go. He looks in great shape.
Speaker 5: I mean, so we knew Joe Mixon a little banged
Speaker 5: up from the spring. He's you know, he's not out
Speaker 5: there right now. But like, okay, so Nick Chubb is
Speaker 5: your backup, Like pretty damn good backup.
Speaker 2: To have if he's healthy and he is full got
Speaker 2: he looks great. He's this is going to be a
Speaker 2: huge git. He said, well, what do you mean a
Speaker 2: huge get backup running back. I don't look at him
Speaker 2: as a backup running back. I look at him as
Speaker 2: one A and he is a He was going to
Speaker 2: run with attitude after what happened. You know, whenever you
Speaker 2: leave a team and you were injured, and he may
Speaker 2: you know he had he played good football. There there's
Speaker 2: this sense of, well did somebody give up on me?
Speaker 2: And I understand why pe'de running back. You're into your career,
Speaker 2: you're banged up, coming off surgery. But if you walked
Speaker 2: his off season workouts in the time you put in,
Speaker 2: you should we should expect a fully healthy beast in
Speaker 2: Nick Chubb now how much he's going to get each day.
Speaker 2: It's a great bonus aff. I think it's the best
Speaker 2: one to two punch in football at that position.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: I don't know anybody that's got a better backup at
Speaker 2: running back than Nick Chubb. There are some good ones,
Speaker 2: but Nick Chubb is a Pro Bowl caliber player. And
Speaker 2: the knees, you know when you've heard a knee or something, Gordy.
Speaker 2: It's much different now than it was. I mean, these
Speaker 2: guys are coming back in seven or eight months and
Speaker 2: killing it when they get back right, nine months ready
Speaker 2: to go. He used to be a twelve to sixteen
Speaker 2: month injury. He's going to be. Chubb's a monster. And
Speaker 2: I think it was his knee, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2: Wasn't it I did any of an ACL But regardless,
Speaker 2: it was a lower body injury. And I'm glad that
Speaker 2: you saw that. So you saw burst with him right
Speaker 2: and running like like he never got hurt, is what
Speaker 2: you're saying. I think he's going to be a good
Speaker 2: get and a great depth and allows Joe Mixon to
Speaker 2: get less work and probably give you the same production
Speaker 2: to where he doesn't have to be beat up. I
Speaker 2: think Joe Mixon should love having Nick Chubb a part
Speaker 2: of this as well.
Speaker 5: The other one that again, it's just it's funny seeing
Speaker 5: Davis Mill still out there heading into year five in
Speaker 5: the NFL, and I mean, he's gonna be chomping at
Speaker 5: the bit to get an opportunity somewhere. He's been ever
Speaker 5: since they took CJ. Stroud writing was on the wall, bro,
Speaker 5: you're the backup.
Speaker 2: Where you know what you're going to be saying in
Speaker 2: twenty thirty five. Man, Davis Mills been lead fourteen years. Man,
Speaker 2: what a career he's having. And you know, and and
Speaker 2: started in the first couple of years. Yeah, he's that guy.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure he wants to be a starter, but
Speaker 2: it's reliable and he's safe, and every team needs a
Speaker 2: guy that you can throw in there with minimal work
Speaker 2: and still trust that he'll at least get it done
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 5: And he actually had a nice day yesterday. There's some
Speaker 5: darts Jared Wayne one one of those receivers catching the
Speaker 5: ball down the field. So again, look, you want to
Speaker 5: have a reliable backup. And that's what's funny is I
Speaker 5: think Mills is in our mind gone from this guy
Speaker 5: sucks and the David Cully era and you know, Lovey
Speaker 5: Smith error to Vible backup and yeah, if Stroud were
Speaker 5: to get hurt, you feel pretty good about him coming
Speaker 5: and executing the offense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you may be limited on some of the things
Speaker 2: you can do offensively because Stroud's so good at throwing them.
Speaker 2: But Davis Mills gives you some game and gives you experience,
Speaker 2: and he's now at the stage of his career. Gordy,
Speaker 2: this is when you start to figure it out for three,
Speaker 2: four five, you know, between years five and seven. I
Speaker 2: know in my career that's when it all. You may
Speaker 2: think you know it, but the understanding mentally what you're
Speaker 2: trying to get done, this is about the time it
Speaker 2: kicks in where like it's a clearer picture. And I
Speaker 2: think it was Steve Young who said said it years ago.
Speaker 2: Just when you figure it out mentally your career physically
Speaker 2: you can't do it anymore now if you're Brady or
Speaker 2: you're allowed to or Steve Young lasted a long time,
Speaker 2: you start to figure it out. The physical stuff now
Speaker 2: becomes a lot simpler because you mentally know what you're doing.
Speaker 2: In modu see coverage, there's only so much they can do.
Speaker 2: There's eleven dudes. When you're young in your career, you're
Speaker 2: borrowing trouble in creating problems, right and now, Davis Smiths,
Speaker 2: this is the time where you just mentally start to
Speaker 2: settle in. You don't need a lot of work physically
Speaker 2: as a backup. Yet you go in there and you
Speaker 2: expect him to play well. And I would expect that
Speaker 2: if he has to start a game or two, that
Speaker 2: you should expect to win because he's at that point
Speaker 2: in his career. And also, if you ever want to
Speaker 2: restart somewhere else where you get a chance, those one
Speaker 2: or two or three go back to Scott Mitchell or
Speaker 2: guys over their career who Gino Smith waiting for the opportunity.
Speaker 2: Who's to say that Davis Mills isn't the next Geno Smith,
Speaker 2: who is a journeyman, gets a chance somewhere else for
Speaker 2: you know what, He's completing seventy percent of his passes
Speaker 2: and starting in Seattle and now gives the Raiders hope
Speaker 2: that they're going to beat some people. So maybe Davis
Speaker 2: Mills that guy. But don't discount it. It is an
Speaker 2: important position because most quarterbacks don't play seventeen weeks. They
Speaker 2: just don't. Well.
Speaker 5: The other part of this that we had all eyes
Speaker 5: on is and again it was the first walk through
Speaker 5: padless day one practice, but the initial offensive line Cam
Speaker 5: Robinson at left high who's been much maligned in his
Speaker 5: time in Jacksonville and was with all that Lake and
Speaker 5: Tomlinson at left guard came over from Seattle, Jared Patterson
Speaker 5: back at center, Titus Howard at right guard, and at
Speaker 5: nursery the rookie out of Minnesota at right tackle, not
Speaker 5: the second round pick from last year, Blake Fisher. So
Speaker 5: that kind of caught some eyes on and Blake Fisher
Speaker 5: was out there, he ran with the second unit, but
Speaker 5: it was just kind of a quick, oh, okay, rookie,
Speaker 5: rookie jumping up there.
Speaker 2: This is happening in a hurry, right, So again.
Speaker 5: Is that the greatest offensive line the Texans have ever
Speaker 5: put out there?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 5: But and again this is the first padless day one practice,
Speaker 5: so we'll see what it looks like over the course
Speaker 5: of training camp. But just kind of caught some eyes
Speaker 5: on one, Oh, the rookie at right tackle, and then
Speaker 5: the other side, Oh, are we really going to do Cam.
Speaker 2: Robinson right and if this happens, and first of all,
Speaker 2: they get a head start, because I don't see anybody
Speaker 2: jumping off sides fifteen times at left tackle. Well maybe,
Speaker 2: but I would hope not.
Speaker 1: For me.
Speaker 2: It also says this, if in fact, you are starting
Speaker 2: a rookie at right tackle, if that's the goal, if
Speaker 2: it's not just you know you put him in there.
Speaker 2: To put him in there, he must have done some
Speaker 2: awful good impressing in this offseason. You know what I
Speaker 2: mean is a rick because the only thing you got
Speaker 2: to show is the tape, and he was like, well
Speaker 2: that's college tape, and you walk in here, and if
Speaker 2: you are in position to possibly start, that tells you
Speaker 2: that they feel good about him. And they felt good
Speaker 2: about him this offseason.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and some other guys in the mix. They brought
Speaker 5: in ed Ingram Minnesota, Jake Andrews backup center. They brought
Speaker 5: in Juice Scruggs. Of course still here. I saw my
Speaker 5: els you guy, Austin Deculos back on the roster. I
Speaker 5: didn't realize they brought him back, but they.
Speaker 2: Got some decent depth. You just got to get those
Speaker 2: five guys continuity to where you know you're rolling them
Speaker 2: out there before. You're not mixing and matchup because I
Speaker 2: want to see the same guys who.
Speaker 5: Have to leap on the line. It's just is the
Speaker 5: starting five, right?
Speaker 2: Are starting five starting five worthy? Yes?
Speaker 5: Agreed, that's the question. It's uh, it's like the Astros
Speaker 5: when they had a bunch of four A players. It
Speaker 5: was like you weren't good enough of the big leagues,
Speaker 5: but you were way too good for triple out.
Speaker 2: There, you're kind of stuck between her. You're you're the
Speaker 2: hybrid guy. So we'll go find out. But one thing
Speaker 2: what will serve them well is a group that that
Speaker 2: is mean. I like nasty, mean, offensive lineman on Sundays. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and if you get that at that attitude's right, the
Speaker 2: rest will come down. I can't teach meanness. I mean
Speaker 2: that that attitude of of that being nasty, that's DNA.
Speaker 2: You either got it or you don't. Now, I can
Speaker 2: give you a motivational speech, but those are temporary until
Speaker 2: somebody punches you in the face. So you've got to
Speaker 2: be disciplined enough to be to make sure that nobody
Speaker 2: touches a player on your team, even though that's not reality.
Speaker 2: You have to treat it like that and I good
Speaker 2: offensive lines I've been on. It all started with are
Speaker 2: they nasty? And do they love being around each other?
Speaker 2: And most good offensive lines they're they're kind of beat
Speaker 2: to their own drum and they're in their own world.
Speaker 2: And the Texans need to find that with these guys
Speaker 2: up front. This is that if that isn't a weakness
Speaker 2: this year, the Houston Texans will have a head start
Speaker 2: and will dominate the division if that's not a weakness
Speaker 2: and they stay healthy.
Speaker 5: We'll get back into some Texans conversation next hour when
Speaker 5: we return a former Houston athlete writing a love letter
Speaker 5: to the city. We'll tell you who that is.
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Speaker 4: Let the celebration start, wor Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk.
Speaker 1: Seven ninety.
Speaker 2: Belong and I guess, I guess so I guess you're right. Yeah.
Speaker 5: It's titled uh A few words from the Heart for Htown.
Speaker 5: From the Player's Tribune, he says, h Town, thank you
Speaker 5: for everything. Goes on to say in this letter, he said,
Speaker 5: I grew up here for real. Some dudes just be
Speaker 5: and I like how they do it the Player's Tribune.
Speaker 5: They put it in his words, they don't clean it up.
Speaker 5: So it's when I'm reading how Jaylen is saying it.
Speaker 5: He said, I mean, I grew up here for real.
Speaker 5: Some dudes just be saying that when they get traded,
Speaker 5: or just be saying that when they get traded. But
Speaker 5: I really came here at nineteen years old, still eating
Speaker 5: skittles before games, and I'm leaving here as a father.
Speaker 5: It's been a time, y'all, he said. When I got here,
Speaker 5: all anybody was talking about rebuild, rebuild, rebuild, doing that
Speaker 5: droopy dog thing looking at the floor. You know what
Speaker 5: I mean, Gee, I don't know. It might take four
Speaker 5: or five years. Man, just take it one day at
Speaker 5: a time, he said, bleep a rebuild. He's proud of
Speaker 5: taking his team. You know, this team got to the
Speaker 5: playoffs last year and achieved so much. Now, he did say, Sean,
Speaker 5: it was interesting. He said, he totally agreed. He put
Speaker 5: himself from the shoes of even of raphel Stone and said,
Speaker 5: if that were me, I would have pulled the trigger
Speaker 5: on this trade too. You got a chance to bring
Speaker 5: Kevin Durant to Houston. I totally get it, you know,
Speaker 5: he said, Maybe this works out for best. He said,
Speaker 5: he's ready to go to Phoenix and grow into his
Speaker 5: own with Devin Booker and hopefully become a big time
Speaker 5: player there. But you don't hear that from guys very often.
Speaker 5: I say, you know what, I get it. I totally
Speaker 5: get it. If I'm in his shoes, I pull the
Speaker 5: trigger on that trade too.
Speaker 2: Well, you're looking at one of the best players of
Speaker 2: all time that you get as good as Jalen Green
Speaker 2: can be offensively, He understands the business side of it,
Speaker 2: and quite frankly, I'm sure at some point in Jalen
Speaker 2: Green's high school life watching Kevin Durant play that he's like, man,
Speaker 2: wouldn't it be cool to play? Be that good? Well,
Speaker 2: and then he's the reason that you are in Phoenix.
Speaker 2: You got two choices when it comes to that God.
Speaker 2: You can be bitter and take it with you, and
Speaker 2: usually the person who's bitter has the grudge, suffers more
Speaker 2: than the peace. You got the grudge or bitter against
Speaker 2: normally because it's eating you up. Listen, you you improved
Speaker 2: every year. You had a rough postseason, but you became
Speaker 2: a player, and Phoenix obviously holds you in high regard
Speaker 2: because you can always say I was traded for Kevin Durant.
Speaker 2: Not a bad gig, right, it's good, But then you
Speaker 2: approach your new job. Hell, Phoenix is a good city.
Speaker 2: They need a little turnaround. They're only three years removed
Speaker 2: from an NBA finals. I think it's been three years
Speaker 2: when they got beat by Giannis and they were up
Speaker 2: two oh. So he's going to a place that's had
Speaker 2: some success. So I like that and Pennant the way
Speaker 2: he did that it was a business decision, and he
Speaker 2: understands it and gets it. What's not the like and
Speaker 2: why wouldn't you root for him to go and be
Speaker 2: successful somewhere else? So I don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 2: But he recognizes greatness. And Kevin Durant still got a
Speaker 2: couple of years of greatness in him. I think you
Speaker 2: spent one four years of Minnesota six five, six or
Speaker 2: five years five I think maybe six, but five for sure,
Speaker 2: ninety to ninety six or ninety five when you.
Speaker 5: Came in, and then when you left you were a
Speaker 5: much mature person out and.
Speaker 2: And not only that, but good teammates that helped you mature.
Speaker 2: A great coach, and I was able to play for
Speaker 2: de j Burns and Danny Green, and it's like, you
Speaker 2: know what, had they said, could you go back there?
Speaker 2: I mean, I grew up in San Diego and finished
Speaker 2: in San Diego. You said, what team do you affiliate
Speaker 2: most with? Sean? For me, I was a Minnesota Viking,
Speaker 2: And that's saying something. The hometown team that I played
Speaker 2: for because I always wanted to finish my career at home.
Speaker 2: I got to. But I'm a Minnesota Viking, and that's
Speaker 2: just the way it is regardless of where you played,
Speaker 2: and I loved it. But yes, you go in one person,
Speaker 2: you come out another. And I like the Jalen Greens
Speaker 2: learned that at a young age because there's a chance
Speaker 2: this may not be the last team he plays for.
Speaker 2: That's just called sports.
Speaker 5: I just love the imagery of he's eating skittles pre
Speaker 5: game at nineteen yeah, and now he's leaving and he's.
Speaker 2: A dad, yeah playing video games because you're like, and
Speaker 2: I'm sure at nineteen percent, I ain't gonna be a
Speaker 2: dad anytime soon. And now you're a dad, and you
Speaker 2: got somebody else to think about. It is a and Gordy,
Speaker 2: you'll face this one day.
Speaker 3: We all do.
Speaker 2: It's like you go to bed a kid and you're like,
Speaker 2: oh man, I'm having time in my life. Then you
Speaker 2: wake up and there's this little one. You're like, oh
Speaker 2: now I got to be a responsible guy. And he's
Speaker 2: still awfully young, but being a parent is the greatest
Speaker 2: life changer and hopefully for the better for everybody, and
Speaker 2: you kind of settle into maturity. Man, it's not a
Speaker 2: bad gig to have. And Jalen Green gets it at
Speaker 2: a young age, and I hope he goes and kills
Speaker 2: it in Phoenix.
Speaker 5: I really do the last thing he said, and this
Speaker 5: is the quote. If I bust y'all asks for thirty
Speaker 5: next season, just remember the good times, to which people
Speaker 5: are like, okay, but is it thirty points on like
Speaker 5: twenty six percent shooting from the field. Because I was
Speaker 5: going to get a dig, little high volume.
Speaker 2: I don't want to raid on his on his love
Speaker 2: parade with him that he's really good as we just
Speaker 2: give him calf of it. I was just about to say, well,
Speaker 2: it's going to be in the regular season, because you
Speaker 2: sure as hell aren't scoring thirty against him in the postseason,
Speaker 2: and that's kind of a deep dig and that's wrong.
Speaker 5: Okay, Well that's most people's responses were when I'm in
Speaker 5: Thompson is defending your Jalen good luck.
Speaker 2: In that thirty. Maybe you're not going to get three
Speaker 2: shots off, let alone score thirty points, So there you go.
Speaker 2: But good on him that he feels that way about
Speaker 2: a city that in truth, yeah, when you're a teenager,
Speaker 2: when you come here, you need some presents from the
Speaker 2: people around you and some help, and they obviously provided
Speaker 2: that form. So good on him and I hope he
Speaker 2: plays well other than when he's playing this team.
Speaker 5: Here one more good piece. He talked about Alpern Shankun.
Speaker 5: He said, and of course my Turkish brother Alpi. When
Speaker 5: we first came in here as kids, I didn't know
Speaker 5: what the hell you'd be saying. Half the time we
Speaker 5: were teaching you how to swear in English, you'd be
Speaker 5: showing me all that Turkish rap, and I just couldn't
Speaker 5: get jiggy with it. I'm sorry, bro, y'all got to
Speaker 5: learn to switch the flow up. That's my guy.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 5: I didn't know Europeans could be so down to earth
Speaker 5: like that. I thought y'all are all bougie. But no,
Speaker 5: Alpi as cool as hell.
Speaker 2: There you go. Now, Alpi may hang thirty on you
Speaker 2: next year. There's a good chance of that All Star
Speaker 2: there you go.
Speaker 5: All right? Yeah, I thought it was good, good stuff there.
Speaker 5: From Jalen Grant the players to being all right. Our
Speaker 5: number three is the Shoann Salisburg Show. Come your way, ab.
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Speaker 1: Excuse, this is the Seawan Salisbury show.
Speaker 5: We got Sewn, we got triple Lee, and we got
Speaker 5: a first place Astros team not just in the AL West,
Speaker 5: but in the American League. Or Houston Astros leading the
Speaker 5: American League tied with the Toronto Blue Jayson won last night.
Speaker 5: But best record in the American League. It's sixty and
Speaker 5: forty two. Here on July twenty fourth, did not think
Speaker 5: this was possible, especially with the team that they're putting
Speaker 5: out there right now. But man oh man, it has
Speaker 5: been a lot of fun to watch. And shout out
Speaker 5: to the brew crew. The Milwaukee Brewers take it two
Speaker 5: out of three against Seattle. Remember on Saturday, Sean, we
Speaker 5: were feeling pretty down and out coming out of the
Speaker 5: All Star break and the Asers dropped two in a
Speaker 5: row to Seattle. Well that quickly. The Astros have now
Speaker 5: won four in a row and Seattle has lost three
Speaker 5: out of four, and the Astros are back in control
Speaker 5: of the ALS. It's just it's wild how quickly things
Speaker 5: could change. You got a six game lead on them.
Speaker 5: You were this close. If you lose that Sunday game,
Speaker 5: they were gonna be two games back. You breathing down
Speaker 5: your neck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Gordy, think about how the narrative has changed in
Speaker 2: ten days both ways. Go into the All Star break
Speaker 2: one in five and it's like, oh my gosh, what's
Speaker 2: going on here? You can't afford to lose to Seattle
Speaker 2: coming out. Then you lose the first two and you're like,
Speaker 2: here we go, when are our players coming back? What's
Speaker 2: going on? Trade deadline? This guy sucks? What are we doing?
Speaker 2: And now you win that last game, then go in
Speaker 2: and sweep a hot Diamondbacks team and take care of
Speaker 2: your business there, and now you get to come home,
Speaker 2: and now the narratives back to oh, not only are
Speaker 2: they good and overachieving, they're getting healthy, but they've got
Speaker 2: the best record in the American League with Toronto in
Speaker 2: ten days. That's three different narratives that have shifted. And
Speaker 2: here you are staring at it. But if you keep
Speaker 2: giving me this narrative of the way they're going, I'm
Speaker 2: all in on this. And you know what, maybe just
Speaker 2: maybe go to your onto something thinking will the best
Speaker 2: move be no move at the at the trade deadline,
Speaker 2: will it be? Yeah? I just know that you don't
Speaker 2: have to mortgage your future by getting somebody that's a
Speaker 2: wow factor. And what's the move? Is it the just
Speaker 2: a guy? Is it significant guy or is it that guy?
Speaker 2: Those levels of trades and which one is it? That
Speaker 2: guy is gonna hurt if you have to give up
Speaker 2: some because you ain't getting that guy for nothing, And
Speaker 2: then that's what you got to decide. That's the crazy part.
Speaker 5: Is as good as the a team like the Dodgers
Speaker 5: are spent a ton, they still have a loaded farm system.
Speaker 5: The Yankees still have a bunch of really good guys
Speaker 5: in their farm system. And yet in the Astros, we've
Speaker 5: been trying to build this thing back. That was the
Speaker 5: whole reason Dana got hired, just because the scout's eye, Hey,
Speaker 5: we need you to build back up this farm system, Dana.
Speaker 5: And then he's not even here two minutes and they're
Speaker 5: trading Drew Gilbert, their top prospect for Justin Verlander. You know,
Speaker 5: it was like, you know, he's look at Jim Crane,
Speaker 5: go Jim, I got to rebuild this system. But Jim's
Speaker 5: going well. But also we're trying to win more World
Speaker 5: Series here, So it's a and.
Speaker 2: You go, here's your parameters financially in years, you're gonna
Speaker 2: have to work on it. Yeah, and that then that
Speaker 2: becomes a Dana Brown situation where he has to find
Speaker 2: a way to cause I'm quite sure that judging just
Speaker 2: from my and gord to you may think different, but
Speaker 2: from my perspective, Jim Crane feels like a guy who
Speaker 2: sets parameters and then turns it over to you and
Speaker 2: empowers you to do your thing. Now, it's like when
Speaker 2: you go to a realtor and how many god, I
Speaker 2: don't know if this happened to you when you bought
Speaker 2: your home. You go to a realtor and say, hey, man,
Speaker 2: even if it's a buddy, here's it's a realtor. Hey,
Speaker 2: my price point is between five and seven fifty. And
Speaker 2: then they come back with ten houses to show you,
Speaker 2: and all of them are one point three or more.
Speaker 2: It's like, well, I thought that maybe you know you
Speaker 2: want to grow into it for eight hundred thousand. Well no,
Speaker 2: I'm not growing into that just yet. Give me the
Speaker 2: five hundred. Well then they come back with a seven
Speaker 2: fifty and I say, well, it's not two dollars and
Speaker 2: fifty cents, it's two hundred and fifty grand. I would
Speaker 2: imagine in a similar yet much bigger fashion that mister
Speaker 2: Crane has said, here's where it goes. That there is
Speaker 2: a parameters where you've got to deal in And that's
Speaker 2: part of the genius of having capologists and having you know,
Speaker 2: the metrics and the analytics part of it. That applies
Speaker 2: to the math of money too, because you're just not
Speaker 2: making deals and say, hey, by the way, we're getting
Speaker 2: bill and cease and it's a rental and it's going
Speaker 2: to cost us thirty million if we want to keep
Speaker 2: him next to you, But hey, let's give up four
Speaker 2: prospects for him and two plays right to get a
Speaker 2: right handed stud I'm sure that taking back that Jim
Speaker 2: Crane would be like, did you just waste my time
Speaker 2: at this door and to the point where here's the parameters.
Speaker 2: Now go operate within him and see what we can do.
Speaker 2: Because I feel like Jim Crane has empowered Dana Brown
Speaker 2: to make some decisions, and Dana has done a good
Speaker 2: job with it and a great great at understanding talent
Speaker 2: and their development. But that's part of the part and
Speaker 2: parcel of the business. He's got a lot that he
Speaker 2: has to deal with with this understanding how not only
Speaker 2: it works for now, what does it do for the
Speaker 2: team now? But are you? Are you crushing a future
Speaker 2: by getting rid of prospects that you're trying to build
Speaker 2: back up. So that's part of the genius of being
Speaker 2: a general manager. And I think that there's an empowerment
Speaker 2: that it feels like Jim Crane gives them and work
Speaker 2: within these parameters and let's make it work and then
Speaker 2: we'll go from there. Because one thing I know about
Speaker 2: Jim Crane that I can't say for every owner. He
Speaker 2: does want to win, Gordy, and when we say, well,
Speaker 2: doesn't every owner, as long as it fits under theirs,
Speaker 2: some want to win. I'm sure Oakland wants to win.
Speaker 2: But guess what the ownership of Oakland's not going to do.
Speaker 2: Or now Sacramento is soon to be Las Vegas, they're
Speaker 2: not going to say, go spend four hundred million dollars.
Speaker 5: You said that very well, I could do even keep truck.
Speaker 5: What's the city they're in?
Speaker 2: So I because if I didn't, my guy Billy Bean
Speaker 2: would say, seanyre, you're not paying attention to our franchise. Well, Billy,
Speaker 2: you guys only spend twenty grand a year, so.
Speaker 5: His headquarters in Sacramento.
Speaker 2: Now they move, I would I would think temporarily. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they probably have something that because even though it's not
Speaker 2: a long trip, and Billy will pop in his suv
Speaker 2: or truck, I'm sure. But I would imagine because he
Speaker 2: wants to be there day to day that that's probably
Speaker 2: the case. You're not going to stay at place you're
Speaker 2: not at anymore, so rental. He may even have already
Speaker 2: started the Las Vegas. So that's a good question. If
Speaker 2: they've already started. Okay, let's let's let our temporary here
Speaker 2: in Vegas. Is that's going to Vegas? It was still
Speaker 2: all mud. Oh they still have any like broken ground.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's going to take a minute. But when
Speaker 2: it goes, it's going to go fast. And it'll be
Speaker 2: a pretty quaint ballpark since it's right down town. So
Speaker 2: it's gonna be cool. But yeah, so I would think
Speaker 2: that Dana Brown understands and does what they got to
Speaker 2: deal with. He didn't make the Kakuchi move last year
Speaker 2: just on a whim, right, he knew the ramifications and.
Speaker 5: What was going to be to be here, to give
Speaker 5: up I mean, you give up multiple minor leaguers, Shake
Speaker 5: bloss and h Joey lo Berfito and.
Speaker 2: Low Berfedo was the hot commodity here when they let
Speaker 2: him go because he that energy, right.
Speaker 5: I just feel like the attitude from Dane has to
Speaker 5: be we we've drafted our ass off. You know, we
Speaker 5: picked Bryce Matthews, we picked these like, we're not going
Speaker 5: to just trade these guys for rentals, Like we're gonna
Speaker 5: stay the course, continue to develop, build these guys. We've
Speaker 5: got Miguel You Lowe and aj blue Ball waiting in
Speaker 5: the wings, like let's just stampat keep this keep developing here.
Speaker 2: I always think this Gordian maybe on a team like
Speaker 2: the Astros, if you're the Dodgers, the Astros, teams that
Speaker 2: are now your Phillies, that in reds, that they are
Speaker 2: used to winning and you can't guarantee it. But coming
Speaker 2: out of it, the Kakuchie thing was really good. Now
Speaker 2: after the fact, did it work, No, because it worked
Speaker 2: during the season, but you didn't get them to the post.
Speaker 2: He isn't even right, So in truth, I thought it
Speaker 2: was a great decision. At the time, but in the
Speaker 2: long run, it's like, we didn't win a World Series.
Speaker 2: To me, rental's work, Gordy when it ends in a championship.
Speaker 2: Other than that, it's not that it was a total failure,
Speaker 2: but it didn't work. You didn't You didn't get a
Speaker 2: rental just because you wanted to make the playoffs. You
Speaker 2: got a rental to give you a chance to win
Speaker 2: the whole thing. Who's the guy they traded for from Baltimore?
Speaker 2: That play a little for trade man seen? Yeah, Mancini,
Speaker 2: that worked out.
Speaker 5: You won the twenty two World.
Speaker 2: Left field, play a little first base, dh and you
Speaker 2: want it.
Speaker 5: That's That's a prime example of one we look at
Speaker 5: as it worked because you won the World.
Speaker 2: Series exactly and he wasn't He wasn't a dominant player,
Speaker 2: but he was. The timing was right, and you won
Speaker 2: a World Series. So they say, would you do it again? Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you do the Kokuchi thing again if it ended
Speaker 2: in a World Series. But since it ended in a
Speaker 2: two game sweep and you never saw him on the mound,
Speaker 2: the perception is, even though he was really good, is
Speaker 2: you gave up three minor leaguers and all of them
Speaker 2: are gone as well as the guy who you rented.
Speaker 2: So that's the danger of that. And if you were
Speaker 2: to go get a guy like Dylan Ce's or a rental,
Speaker 2: guess what you're you're aiming for. That'll tell you if
Speaker 2: they go do that, that you believe that you're gonna
Speaker 2: win the World Series.
Speaker 5: What's that phrase? Opportunity costs. The opportunity cost of what
Speaker 5: you have to give up to get a cease, I
Speaker 5: think is greater. Is greater than I've got Spencer Arraghetty
Speaker 5: in double A corpus, I've got Luis Garcia in double
Speaker 5: A Corpus, I got Christian Javier are heading a triple
Speaker 5: A sugar lamb, Like I'm going to get these guys
Speaker 5: back to me. I've got a bank and I'm paying them.
Speaker 5: I'm paying Christian Haavey or whatever it is, sixteen seventy
Speaker 5: million a year. Like that guy's got to get back
Speaker 5: and produce and earn his money rather than me and
Speaker 5: going and spending, spending, spending and losing assets.
Speaker 2: Like and it goes back to the Bilo cell High thing,
Speaker 2: Gordy business school. First thing, I mean, is it if
Speaker 2: you and that that's the whole goal and this is
Speaker 2: business school that it's the risk reward if if you're
Speaker 2: taking the risk, what's bigger here on a Dylan ces guy,
Speaker 2: the risk is because the chase. Now he gives you
Speaker 2: a chance. But in truth, there's far more you have
Speaker 2: to do to get and win a World Series than
Speaker 2: just get to the playoffs and lose. And it would
Speaker 2: be a failure on a rental with him if he
Speaker 2: was gone at now you go get him, You get
Speaker 2: to the playoffs and you don't have to give up,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden you win a World Series
Speaker 2: and you sign him for four years and now he's
Speaker 2: a cy young guy to next year. Well, then you win.
Speaker 2: But the risk reward and you are right. Sometimes that
Speaker 2: risk is just too big for the reward unless you're
Speaker 2: guaranteed the reward. And guess what, when it's pro sports,
Speaker 2: there's no guarantee other than maybe Otani okay, and he's
Speaker 2: not available.
Speaker 5: Oh and let me give you a guy like guys
Speaker 5: on the roster could start to heat up. What if
Speaker 5: I told you Christian Walker is batting three forty eight
Speaker 5: in the month of July.
Speaker 2: So far, I'd say that's exactly what you bargain for
Speaker 2: maybe not three forty eight, but a hot bat when
Speaker 2: you got him.
Speaker 5: It's getting hot. I mean he was batting two thirteen
Speaker 5: coming into this month.
Speaker 2: Seing two forty something.
Speaker 5: Now close to two forty now, I mean it's he's
Speaker 5: heating up. Don't let him get hot. Now, if Walker
Speaker 5: gets hot and maybe you get paying, youa Myers and
Speaker 5: yourd on back different stories this thing move. Do you
Speaker 5: need to make it the deadline? You don't need one.
Speaker 2: Gordy was a healthy as the move. Think about this,
Speaker 2: with all these guys out, who was the middle of
Speaker 2: your lineup supposed to be Jordon Walker and Jiner. Yeah, now,
Speaker 2: up until about two weeks ago, Jordon not productive, hurt
Speaker 2: this year. I'm just talking about this year Christian Walker
Speaker 2: hitting in the two teens and Jiner Diez splitting a
Speaker 2: little more time with Victor Krottini. And that was supposed
Speaker 2: to be three four five, maybe Walker or or Yin
Speaker 2: or hitting the six hole. But that was supposed to
Speaker 2: be your middle of your lineup al two by leading
Speaker 2: off whoever you put it second, and at the time
Speaker 2: it would have been Paradius, right, and if you decided
Speaker 2: it wasn't, Paratus was something else, but you were going
Speaker 2: out too ve Paradis, Jordon Walker and or Yiner and
Speaker 2: then fifth Walker and or Yiner, then Payana and then
Speaker 2: however else and went seven eight nine. Well, here you
Speaker 2: are now, and it's starting to look like that. So
Speaker 2: those three guys that were not productive for the majority
Speaker 2: of the season, now you get Walker hot. If Yiner
Speaker 2: starts to pick up and you get your back, you're
Speaker 2: exactly right. Eighteen games over five hundred to'll end up
Speaker 2: twenty five thirty games over five hundred if this continues,
Speaker 2: It's exactly right. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe the trade deadline move is getting an extra
Speaker 5: trainer in the room to help uh gods get healthy.
Speaker 2: We got calves, we got hammies, we got obliques, we
Speaker 2: got ribs, we got a hand break, we've got blisters, we.
Speaker 5: Got syn Astros have just made a trade with the
Speaker 5: Seattle Mariners for the trainer, Marcos Gonzalez. He's gonna come
Speaker 5: in here and he's gonna help this team get healthy
Speaker 5: with some new techniques.
Speaker 2: And they're also sitting in a case of tape, okay,
Speaker 2: pre wrap.
Speaker 5: I cannot confirm this, but he's bringing a training table
Speaker 5: with them. I've been told so and.
Speaker 2: It's also got the hole in it like that, so
Speaker 2: you can so you can work on your upper back
Speaker 2: too without you not being able to have that plastic
Speaker 2: in your face when the covering and you don't have
Speaker 2: to put a towel down. Just just no Deshaun massages. Sorry,
Speaker 2: I wasn't ever going there. I think that's for other people.
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about that. I get to throw up
Speaker 2: in my mouth. We'll get it.
Speaker 5: The more Astros, the Texas conversations stay with us.
Speaker 2: Let the celebration start more.
Speaker 1: Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 2: And if you talk about who's the backup quarterback to Tua,
Speaker 2: who's the backup to the Giant even giants, and it's cycle,
Speaker 2: that's yours. There you go, Miami, you got draft, what's
Speaker 2: the late round draft pick? And when you talk about
Speaker 2: like we were talking about Russ Wilson yesterday, said man,
Speaker 2: I was asked the question who's the backup? And I
Speaker 2: had to think for a second. I said, Oh, it's
Speaker 2: Jameis Winston. Because of the topic of Brian dable name
Speaker 2: and a starter, and Jameis Winston's a viable, big time
Speaker 2: backup who can start for you? So it's nothing anymore.
Speaker 2: With all the changes. You could ask ninety percent of
Speaker 2: the football world, where's Trey Lance? Are like, I'm not
Speaker 2: really sure where he is, but yeah, he's not gonna
Speaker 2: see the field there either. Because we were talking about
Speaker 2: good players that ended up being bust and then journeyman
Speaker 2: who ended up becoming players.
Speaker 5: Okay, let's clear this up real quick because I didn't
Speaker 5: know any of this. The backup in San Diego to
Speaker 5: Trey Lance is the back up to Justine Sane.
Speaker 2: It's not San Diego La. I still called San Diego too.
Speaker 2: Don't have same way? You know what they are?
Speaker 5: Yes, So Trey Lance is a Charger. The backup to
Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence in Jacksonville is Nick Mullins former Fort and
Speaker 5: Minnesota Viking. Mac Jones he left this offseason, was in
Speaker 5: Jacksonville last year. Is now the backup to brock Party
Speaker 5: in San Francisco.
Speaker 2: And think about this Mac Jones. And if you go
Speaker 2: back and remember now, remember when they drafted Trey Lance.
Speaker 2: Do you know that Mac Jones at the time, Remember
Speaker 2: they were talking to San Francisco was are they going
Speaker 2: to draft mac Jones? And you're talking about where is
Speaker 2: he going to go. Well, think about Mac Jones. He
Speaker 2: started in New England two years ago. He's on his
Speaker 2: third team and three. That's how quickly people are moving
Speaker 2: on from the guys like Anthony Richardson and the rest
Speaker 2: of it. But trying to keep your eye on the
Speaker 2: backup quarterback body.
Speaker 5: Well, and to bring in full circle here, the backup
Speaker 5: in Miami which you just mentioned is Zach Wilson. Do
Speaker 5: you realize that's all the twenty fifteen or the twenty
Speaker 5: twenty one NFL draft quarterbacks Trevor Lawrence won, Zach Wilson
Speaker 5: to Trey Lance three, Justin Fields was eleven, which he is.
Speaker 2: In where Fields as a starting quarterback with the Jets,
Speaker 2: that he's the.
Speaker 5: Starter with the Jets. Where Zach Wilson was and Mac
Speaker 5: Jones was fifteen, All those guys were the same draft.
Speaker 2: And thank you. So guess what.
Speaker 5: Guess we'll just play a physical change and.
Speaker 2: Guess what we're gonna say about that draft. If you
Speaker 2: had to label that draft right now, you know what
Speaker 2: you're saying. Horrible quarterback draft exactly. And that includes when
Speaker 2: I say horrible. He's been good at times, great at times,
Speaker 2: average at times, and crappy at times is Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 2: And as the first pick, can I say, would you
Speaker 2: would you say this if I said right now, if
Speaker 2: his career ended, would you have called Trevor Lawrence a
Speaker 2: bust or a success?
Speaker 5: More of a bust closer to.
Speaker 2: The button now, not a full bus, not a full success,
Speaker 2: closer to the well as the first pick of the draft,
Speaker 2: expect acting more correct. So that's where we are now.
Speaker 2: Look after that, not a one of them is on
Speaker 2: the team they started other than him. Zach Wilson's on
Speaker 2: his third or fourth team. Mac Jones is on his
Speaker 2: third team. H third team is justin fields. None of
Speaker 2: them are are having rousing success right now. And they
Speaker 2: were all in the same draft, and.
Speaker 5: It's like you're all just playing musical chairs. Yeah, you're like, oh, this.
Speaker 2: Will replace you, you go replace me. That's exactly right.
Speaker 2: So what's crazy talk about not an exact science.
Speaker 5: A redraft of twenty twenty one. I don't know if
Speaker 5: a quarterback goes on the top three picks, because your
Speaker 5: top three picks are most likely I'm just eyeballing this.
Speaker 5: I'd probably go Jamar Chase, Micah Parsons, Patrick Stand.
Speaker 2: I mean, but even if you just say certain, yeah,
Speaker 2: those are three full blown Pro bowlers that have lived
Speaker 2: up and exceeded at times expectations as opposed to four
Speaker 2: other quarterbacks or five quarterbacks that right now or other
Speaker 2: than Lawrence, our journeymen. There are journeymen.
Speaker 5: Nico Collins to go in the third round. I might
Speaker 5: put him up there.
Speaker 2: Well, if Nico Collins, this is a redraft, knowing what
Speaker 2: you know now, he's a top fifteen pick as a
Speaker 2: wide receiver because he's a big, physical game breaker.
Speaker 5: So I just we redrafted a quarterback wouldn't even go
Speaker 5: right five.
Speaker 2: And that's Lawrence included. Now out of need, you may
Speaker 2: have drafted him depending on need, because you're the potential.
Speaker 2: But judging by production as a matter of fact, the
Speaker 2: other four they're not drafted in the first round because
Speaker 2: they haven't had any There's been no semblance of them
Speaker 2: being first round production. It's crazy how that, And you
Speaker 2: wonder why people miss on that position and why a
Speaker 2: seventh round pick like Perdy can get sixty million and
Speaker 2: then the top pick of the draft can flounder to
Speaker 2: the point where Jacksonville's not sure if the future is
Speaker 2: there and they just paid him what fifty eight million
Speaker 2: bucks or whatever it was. And Trevor Lawrence, it's a
Speaker 2: hard position to evaluate. Just asked that draft class.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean remember they when they took Blake Bortles.
Speaker 5: The Texans were considering it. Bro Bill O'Brien liked them
Speaker 5: a lot. I think that was the Clowney draft. But
Speaker 5: they had Bortles and they went to the AFC title game. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and then it followed the right and he became a backup. Yeah, Gordy,
Speaker 5: think about this.
Speaker 2: If I said, right now, and this is not at you,
Speaker 2: its most if I said, right down on a piece
Speaker 2: of paper without looking at that before we do this,
Speaker 2: I said, the thirty two backups at running back and
Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL, you'd probably get through what four
Speaker 2: of them? Yeah, I don't mean, and that's a guy
Speaker 2: who you follow it closely like I do. But you
Speaker 2: have to think, if I said, right now, who's the
Speaker 2: backup in Minnesota, you have to exactly.
Speaker 5: Right, JJ McCarthy is the starter now.
Speaker 2: And guess who's gone. Daniel Jones is in Indianapolis. Obviously,
Speaker 2: Donald's in Seattle. So just for just for talking sake,
Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings backup quarterback they're starting in essence, you know
Speaker 2: answer I did going into last year, and uh and
Speaker 2: I go on and I go on every Thursday with
Speaker 2: Dan Burrero in Minnesota.
Speaker 5: It is Sam Holle.
Speaker 2: There you go, former North Carolina and Washington commander's quarter.
Speaker 5: Brett Rippin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mark's uh Mark Rippin's uh nephew.
Speaker 5: Do you know who the backup day is? The cam
Speaker 5: Ward in Tennessee?
Speaker 2: The backup to cam Ward in Tennessee is give me
Speaker 2: an idea where he went to school? Because I do
Speaker 2: know this. Oh it's Brandon Allen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, at Wood. You could give me twenty guests that's never.
Speaker 2: Ran all yep, there you go see what I mean? Okay,
Speaker 2: who's Caleb Williams backup Caleb Williams in Chicago? Man, because
Speaker 2: you've never heard his name? Because why is all Caleb
Speaker 2: Williams of Ben Johnson? Who's the backup there? Oh?
Speaker 5: Well they signed case. I know Keenum's there, right, but
Speaker 5: I don't know if he's he's probably third string.
Speaker 2: So but that's my point.
Speaker 5: Let's see Tyson, Badgeant, pagent, badget whatever it was.
Speaker 2: It be a it's b A D G, E N
Speaker 2: T or something round a sheep he's played.
Speaker 5: How is that guy back? And Sean pay.
Speaker 2: Million right now? Just don't hit me. Yeah, think about that.
Speaker 2: So that's my.
Speaker 5: Point is like I am gonna milk this thing until
Speaker 5: until no.
Speaker 2: Case Keenum needs to have a well Omarvis scale play
Speaker 2: twenty four to twenty five years. Dude, keep getting paid.
Speaker 2: I don't blame. That's my point is you can be
Speaker 2: heavy into it the off season movement backup quarterback, and
Speaker 2: it's a valuable position because you don't know you love
Speaker 2: them until you need them, and then when they don't perform,
Speaker 2: you're like, oh my gosh. But that's the way it is.
Speaker 2: Times have changed. You knew when Steve Young was a
Speaker 2: backup to Joe Montana, you have zero idea. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying you all of us. I'm on every week in
Speaker 2: Minnesota Talk and I had to think, like who is
Speaker 2: the backup?
Speaker 3: That is.
Speaker 6: It?
Speaker 2: That with your friends today?
Speaker 5: See how many backup quarterbacks in the NFL your friends
Speaker 5: can name right now that like that are where they
Speaker 5: are right now.
Speaker 2: Hey, go to the defensive coordinator in some of these places,
Speaker 2: say who's the backup quarterback? He'll say, I don't know
Speaker 2: who the backup quarterback is on my team. That's how
Speaker 2: crazy this is.
Speaker 5: You know who's backing up Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2: Now, Patrick Maholmes backup? I do know this. It was
Speaker 2: Carson Wentz last year. Give me his alma mater, and
Speaker 2: I can probably tell you Washington State, Washington State. I
Speaker 2: don't know. It's yes, it's it's Minshew. Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: I had no idea. See talk about the perfect journeyman
Speaker 2: starter and backup at every city he's played in.
Speaker 5: He was backing up Stafford for the Rams.
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford, backup. Give me the alma mater, Oh, Northern Illinois,
Speaker 2: Tony Romo the other one. That's a crazy quiz, right,
Speaker 2: and that's Gordie. I would say that you probably follow
Speaker 2: football as close as people who follow football close. Guess
Speaker 2: what and tell of course you need him for eight games, right?
Speaker 2: You need Teddy Bridgewater in New Orleans to win five
Speaker 2: for you when Drew Brees gets hurt. It's a crazy dynamic.
Speaker 2: And now you say, who's the best backup in the league, Garoppolo,
Speaker 2: maybe Jameis Winston. Maybe who's the best backup quarterback in
Speaker 2: the league, Davis Mills in your top ten of course.
Speaker 5: Davis Mills might be up there, exactly a reliable backup
Speaker 5: that you can count on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, all right, trip man. One more for you.
Speaker 5: Who's backing up Jalen Hurts in Philly?
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts back up in Philly. Isn't that McKee?
Speaker 5: Tanner? McKee got a good, good call out of Stanford again.
Speaker 5: Could have given me twenty guests this and never.
Speaker 2: Would have got there. You go, brother, that's it's nothing
Speaker 2: to be a shame because that's the rest of the
Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of the world feels the same way.
Speaker 2: That's wild. All right.
Speaker 5: When we return here, Colin Cowhert said something stupid, go figure.
Speaker 5: We're gonna talk about that next.
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Speaker 5: But what could they do an Eagles like movie where
Speaker 5: like actors are playing them?
Speaker 2: Yeah, then you say who you choose right, who you
Speaker 2: choose for Joe Walsh and who you're choosing for Glenn Froyd.
Speaker 5: Always they picked people like zac Efron will play Glen
Speaker 5: fry like what they didn't even right, but they're right.
Speaker 5: Put makeup on them, make them look.
Speaker 2: Like Now, the perfect casting they got was when for
Speaker 2: Queen what's My Guy? That was Mercury. That was a
Speaker 2: that's about as good a casting as you can get
Speaker 2: because of the look. And I thought he played the
Speaker 2: role what's his name Remy yeah, yeah, Mallard, Yeah, what's
Speaker 2: say it against what's Malick? Yeah? Malick? That's it? And
Speaker 2: who is really good at his job? He's really good.
Speaker 2: But that's hard to that's hard to reach eight because
Speaker 2: you also now I know, with with the way that
Speaker 2: studios work, that you don't have to be a singer.
Speaker 2: But if you got a good voice too, it's kind
Speaker 2: of nice, like you know what was interesting.
Speaker 5: I read Malick sang a little bit, but they had
Speaker 5: a guy who is a Queen impersonator or Freddie Mercury impersonator,
Speaker 5: who re sang a lot of that stuff, right, so
Speaker 5: he's voice over a lot of it, and then they
Speaker 5: took actual Freddie Mercury's voice. So it's an interesting layer.
Speaker 2: It's amazing. Well, it's amazing how they can do that
Speaker 2: with all this stuff. Hell, we got to see Hank
Speaker 2: Aaron without seeing Hank Aaron at the All Star Game,
Speaker 2: you know, with the three the way they do these
Speaker 2: presentations with the with the three D and the what
Speaker 2: do they call that like being yeah, the Holly guys.
Speaker 2: It's pretty impressive, man. So it's only a matter of
Speaker 2: time before Hell, when are they going to start? Honestly,
Speaker 2: you're doing movies where you bring back oh yeah, old actors, right,
Speaker 2: and I mean some of these movies where a guy died,
Speaker 2: like the African American Gentleman and all the equalizers. Who
Speaker 2: works at the hotel, you know, you know who's the hotel?
Speaker 2: Who greets John Wick at the hotel. He's a really
Speaker 2: good actor and he's been a great supporting actor. He
Speaker 2: passed away and yet in post movies or like Paul
Speaker 2: for for the uh with the family. What's my go to,
Speaker 2: Mike Paul Walker, you know with the with the way
Speaker 2: they but they still have him in post movies after
Speaker 2: he had passed away, right, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 2: to like, whether he's standing on the beach where you
Speaker 2: can put him in. I'm just wondering if we're ever
Speaker 2: going to get to the point where you do a
Speaker 2: full movie with former actors that are in a full
Speaker 2: movie that none of them are alive.
Speaker 5: Well, I think we're five years away from AI. We'll
Speaker 5: just automate the Sean Salisburg show. It'll be Sean giving
Speaker 5: his takes AI, and you can just sleep in.
Speaker 2: I'll retire before that happens. Okay. Now, if you're saying, Sean,
Speaker 2: do the show the day before, they're going to copy
Speaker 2: your voice and it's going to be AI and Clint
Speaker 2: Eastwood's hoping hosting your show. Great, but let's see you
Speaker 2: say five years that'll take me. Yeah, I'll be on
Speaker 2: the golf course when that happen.
Speaker 5: Heard the show today he sounded great?
Speaker 2: Or really?
Speaker 5: What did I say?
Speaker 2: Yeah? What did I say? Because I was a whole four.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, well, if not Ai, maybe Colin Cowherd will
Speaker 5: put us all out of business with his flaming.
Speaker 2: Cha let me hear this one.
Speaker 5: This was one we were talking about Archie Manning earlier.
Speaker 5: We were talking about the Cleveland Browns. We talked about
Speaker 5: Nick Saban yesterday. Here is Colin Cowherd with what he
Speaker 5: calls the worst kept secret in the South. Now, I
Speaker 5: live in the South, I know a lot of all
Speaker 5: my friends live in the South. I have not heard
Speaker 5: one damn person say this yet he thinks it's the
Speaker 5: worst kept secret in the South, meaning everybody knows this.
Speaker 5: This is just common knowledge. Sean. Okay, here's Colin Cowherd.
Speaker 6: In fact, this is the worst kept secret in the South.
Speaker 6: Haslam Jimmy, owner of the Browns, huge sec Tennessee Booster
Speaker 6: leans heavily on the Manning family, very close to the
Speaker 6: Manning family. Yes that that that's not make believe. Rsh
Speaker 6: Manning is part of the Manning family. And this is
Speaker 6: where Nick Saban comes in. Saban is incredibly close to
Speaker 6: not only Jimmy Haslam, but Saban's close to the Manning
Speaker 6: family as well. And so Saban if he could Land.
Speaker 6: I'm told a top quarterback like Harbaugh going to the
Speaker 6: charges for Herbert, he would take a phone call for
Speaker 6: the NFL. And there are two teams guaranteed to be
Speaker 6: awful this year in the NFL, Cleveland.
Speaker 1: And the Saints.
Speaker 6: Nick Saban has coached in Cleveland with the Browns under
Speaker 6: the Belichick staff, and he coached at LSU.
Speaker 5: This is not a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 6: Haslam's circle of trust, according to an article in the
Speaker 6: Athletic last year, is the Manning family and Jimmy Sexton
Speaker 6: and Bill Parcells. Sexton is Nick Saban's agent. So the
Speaker 6: Mannings are royalty in New Orleans. The children's hospital in
Speaker 6: New Orleans is called the Mannings Children's Hospital, and the
Speaker 6: Mannings are royalty to Jimmy Haslam. Jimmy has them also
Speaker 6: loves headlines. That's why he pushed the draft. Johnny Manzel
Speaker 6: and Baker Mayfield, they were the most talk to.
Speaker 2: A ridiculous Garren.
Speaker 5: The ridiculous connection he's trying to make here, Colin Cowhurtshaw
Speaker 5: is trying to put Arch Manning with head coach Nick
Speaker 5: Saban with the Cleveland Browns and saying that everybody knows
Speaker 5: this is common knowledge, Like I have not heard one
Speaker 5: soul the first.
Speaker 2: Time I've heard it. But have you noticed that he
Speaker 2: covered It's like Peyton who loves they love, haslm has them,
Speaker 2: loves them, who loves Nick Saban, who loves Bill Parcells,
Speaker 2: who coached in Cleveland, who loves New Orleans, who's part
Speaker 2: of the Children's hospital, and the Mannings are royalty. That's
Speaker 2: a lot of layers to get to one of them
Speaker 2: is going to be right, I'm sure. And the fact
Speaker 2: that Jimmy Sexton is Nick Saban's agent. Listen, while he
Speaker 2: may take a call from the NFL to have to
Speaker 2: just figure out that maze he just put us through.
Speaker 2: And no, it's not common knowledge. I'll tell you. With
Speaker 2: the least uh the secret that that what do you
Speaker 2: call it, the least what the least step secret in
Speaker 2: the South? No, that that would be BUCkies, okay, and
Speaker 2: everybody else needs them. It ain't that the Peyton, Manning
Speaker 2: and Ham we all know has them in Peyton, Manning
Speaker 2: and Tennessee. But I haven't heard Nick Saban to Cleveland
Speaker 2: and New Orleans, especially since Kellen Moore is on the
Speaker 2: first year of this contract. Yeah, that's not something I
Speaker 2: see and oh so, but didn't he just say because
Speaker 2: the last time Nick Saban took an NFL job, it
Speaker 2: was in Miami and the only time as a head coach,
Speaker 2: he had an injured unfortunately Dante Culpepper. He didn't get
Speaker 2: Drew Brees. Right, So with that, so you go to
Speaker 2: New Orleans, who's your quarterback? It's going to be a
Speaker 2: rookie Tyler Shuggy He's going to be the quarterback, right
Speaker 2: more than likely, or Spencer Ratler. And if you go
Speaker 2: to the other team in Cleveland, Uh, you don't want
Speaker 2: to inherit that, buddy.
Speaker 5: No, it's Blacko, can He Pickett, Dylan Gabriel, Schador Sanders,
Speaker 5: Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 2: Right, you don't want those muddied waters. You're just gonna wait.
Speaker 5: Now, Well, then the other part of this arch all side,
Speaker 5: like everybody around them, has said he's probably not coming out.
Speaker 2: After this year.
Speaker 5: He's probably gonna stick around of Texas another year. So
Speaker 5: you're talking the twenty twenty seven draft. Yeah, so wait,
Speaker 5: so Jimmy has them and the Browns are guys not
Speaker 5: this year, but next year, I'm telling you we're gonna
Speaker 5: get number one. We're gonna suck again. We're gonna get
Speaker 5: the number one pick, We're can get Arch, and we're
Speaker 5: gonna get Sabing. Like you know, so many dominoes have
Speaker 5: to fall just right for that that happened.
Speaker 2: As much I love the Cleveland fans, I'm not so
Speaker 2: sure that Peyton and the group wouldn't say, Jimmy, we
Speaker 2: love you. We're not telling Nick Saban to go coach
Speaker 2: Arch and we don't want Arch to go. I mean
Speaker 2: it gets to a point where it's like how many
Speaker 2: times a you're gonna miss in Cleveland? Right? So I'm
Speaker 2: sure all those relationships are true, but.
Speaker 5: Like, oh, you didn't hear this? Yeah, yeah, everybody.
Speaker 2: Well, here's two of us, the dude local radio here
Speaker 2: and no, I had no idea and we're in the South,
Speaker 2: so no idea that that was happening. So I'm great
Speaker 2: on him that he's got it from authority. Yes, but
Speaker 2: we do know that Nick and Jimmy Haslam and that
Speaker 2: whole group and the Manning family are all pretty tight.
Speaker 2: I get that, But that doesn't mean that Nick Saban
Speaker 2: is going to be the head coach in either one
Speaker 2: of those cities.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll put that one at zero point. One percent
Speaker 5: chance of happened now.
Speaker 2: So yeah, will he fill the phone call? Probably? Will
Speaker 2: he take the job? Probably not, nor should he. But
Speaker 2: there'll be a long line to stand in to get
Speaker 2: Nick Saven to come back and coach college or NFL
Speaker 2: when this season's over, as we all know, whether he
Speaker 2: takes it or not'll be whether he decides he wants
Speaker 2: to work.
Speaker 5: That out of all teams, like the history of the Brown,
Speaker 5: you think Archie and all the Manning family gonna go
Speaker 5: that's where Archie used to be.
Speaker 2: And do you think that Nick Saban because he was
Speaker 2: an assistant to Bill Belichick on that staff, if you're
Speaker 2: going to go back to Cleveland. Really, I love the fans,
Speaker 2: but I'm saying I don't think that's his priority yet
Speaker 2: and it may end up being, but I don't think
Speaker 2: the reason is because well I was on Belichick staff
Speaker 2: in Cleveland. We got something to prove still because Bernie
Speaker 2: Coozar is not there now, and we'd love to have
Speaker 2: Bernie back. Boy would they ever? So Yeah, that's a
Speaker 2: six that's a six degrees of separation that's too hard
Speaker 2: to follow for me. So and I had no idea
Speaker 2: that that was a rumor yeah.
Speaker 5: Well it's not. But in closing, Colin cow heard dumbass
Speaker 5: takes all right. When we return here with Sean Salisbury Show,
Speaker 5: we do some bad news on one of the NFL
Speaker 5: practice fields, a big injury.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that here in just a second.
Speaker 5: Why you're back.
Speaker 2: This is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 5: Get back at it. Trending news happening just in the
Speaker 5: last twenty minutes up at Jets camp. Apparently Justin Fields
Speaker 5: carted off the field at training camp, suffered a lower
Speaker 5: leg injury at practice. The team ended that portion of
Speaker 5: practice and now trending on Twitter. Tyrod Taylor because he
Speaker 5: is the back end of America for the Jets.
Speaker 2: It usually happens the other way around, though, and here's
Speaker 2: what usually happens with Tyrod Taylor. Unfortunately, what a what
Speaker 2: a great teammate and career that guy's had, considering the
Speaker 2: incredible circumstances he's been in. He what happens is that
Speaker 2: they have a starter and then he replaces him in
Speaker 2: places pretty well, and then all of a sudden, then
Speaker 2: the next year you draft a first rounder or you
Speaker 2: bring in a free agent to replace him, and sometimes
Speaker 2: get and then all of a sudden he's a starter
Speaker 2: going into camp and then well, like in San Diego,
Speaker 2: the prematurity of and they were with the San Diego
Speaker 2: at the time, or maybe they were LA at the time,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, he's a doctor, puts
Speaker 2: the needle in the wrong and he misses, and Herbert
Speaker 2: gets the start, and he never gives a job back.
Speaker 2: Tyrod Taylor has done. This has happened to him in
Speaker 2: so many different cities where he's coming and performed well,
Speaker 2: and then they draft the guy to replace him. And
Speaker 2: now this usually happens him. So on the other you
Speaker 2: wish anything on fields, but now he's got an opportunity
Speaker 2: to lead a team. Is he's the guy now that's
Speaker 2: going in for an injured guy, not to replace a guy.
Speaker 2: But he's always been as reliable and when you talk
Speaker 2: about best backups in the league, he's one of them.
Speaker 2: And he's real. He's been in a lot of different systems.
Speaker 2: He's got high football IQ and is a smart decision maker.
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure that he's not a better now.
Speaker 2: He's not a more explosive talent by any stretching imagination,
Speaker 2: but he actually might give you a better chance to
Speaker 2: win because he makes good decisions. I just hope for
Speaker 2: fields his sake it's not a long injury. But when
Speaker 2: that carts you off at concerns you never know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like some we've had this happen before
Speaker 5: in training camp and then you find out, oh, it's
Speaker 5: a spring and he'll be back next week. So you know,
Speaker 5: you sometimes but carted.
Speaker 2: Off, you know, alarm, it concerns you a little bit.
Speaker 5: And then when they stop everything and they're like, all right.
Speaker 2: Normally in the old school days, it just moved the drill,
Speaker 2: that's right, right.
Speaker 5: But anyway, so Tyrod Taylor is back, by the way,
Speaker 5: twenty twenty one was the starter here in Houston, and
Speaker 5: they drafted Davis Mills in the third round that year,
Speaker 5: and it was a mix of Tyrod Taylor and Davis
Speaker 5: Mills at quarterback that year, with Mark Ingram and Rex
Speaker 5: Burkhead at running back.
Speaker 2: Think about all the places that Tyrod Taylor's kind of
Speaker 2: gone and and you've needed him at some point, and
Speaker 2: here they go again. I hope, for Justin Field's sake,
Speaker 2: this isn't a long injury, and for Tyrod Taylor's sake
Speaker 2: that he, you know, seizes the moment and takes care
Speaker 2: of his business. But you never want to hear that
Speaker 2: early in practice. Yeah, I mean right right. So the
Speaker 2: question for me is, and here's what's going to be asked,
Speaker 2: was it a contact injury or non contact? Because if
Speaker 2: it's a contact injury on your starting quarterback, then now
Speaker 2: you got a question, what in the hell are you
Speaker 2: guys doing on the practice field. What in the hell
Speaker 2: are you doing on the practice field? They would allow
Speaker 2: your starting quarterback to get hit and hurt. This tells me, Gordy,
Speaker 2: this was one of those somebody got blocked into him.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm just speculating. Or if it's a
Speaker 2: non contact injury, that even concerns me more because and
Speaker 2: I've had one where I shredded my knee on a
Speaker 2: non and when they say lower half, I don't know
Speaker 2: if that's a knee an ankle of foot, who knows,
Speaker 2: but carted off like that, it just brings back cringe
Speaker 2: worthy mem mine was in a game, but and one
Speaker 2: was contact that I blew it out and one was
Speaker 2: non contact. I hate that. But if it was a
Speaker 2: contact injury, then you're wondering, why the hell are you
Speaker 2: hitting my quarterback. If it was an accidental contact, then
Speaker 2: somebody got too close to him, but lower half injuries
Speaker 2: carted off on practice field where quarterbacks don't get hit.
Speaker 2: I can only imagine what that injury could be. And
Speaker 2: let's hope it's not serious.
Speaker 5: Some people are already bringing up should they call it
Speaker 5: Atlanta and discuss Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the most logical. Now it's an expensive one,
Speaker 2: but that's the most logical. What backup goes to an
Speaker 2: immediate starter and actually probably makes you better. Cousins is
Speaker 2: a better player than Justin Fields, feels just younger and
Speaker 2: more explosive. But that would be the natural call. And
Speaker 2: if you're Atlanta, you say, oh cool, we're gonna lose
Speaker 2: a guy. That's a backup that we may need. But
Speaker 2: now I'm gonna hold you hostage, so you're gonna give
Speaker 2: me more than you wanted to give me if I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go get Cousins depending on the length of Justin
Speaker 2: Field's injury.
Speaker 5: It's amazing how it's like we live in this heartless
Speaker 5: world and social media fantasy football people are already chattering, going, Actually,
Speaker 5: Tyrod Taylor gives you a better value for Garrett Wilson
Speaker 5: and Breese Hall this year. Like God, like, the body's
Speaker 5: not even cold. That's right, we don't even know what
Speaker 5: Justin Field's injury is that they're Yeah, actually, this is
Speaker 5: a better situation for fantasy owners.
Speaker 2: It's a perfect example of like, oh yeah, they're not
Speaker 2: even thinking about Fields. He can be headed to a
Speaker 2: hospital for a observation and we're already worried about how
Speaker 2: it's gonna affect your fantasy points. Yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: It is cruel in the sports world.
Speaker 5: Man, I had a chance to talk with Jamal Charles
Speaker 5: last week at at SEC Media Days. He was pumping
Speaker 5: Bush's baked beans per run them.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and I'm at the Manning push right now.
Speaker 2: Don't they bushes make me? It doesn't pay for endorsement.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but uh, he said, he's I said, how many
Speaker 5: people tell you about fantasy because he was like the
Speaker 5: top back in fantasy for years. He goes, Man, I
Speaker 5: get that all the time. People are like, oh, he
Speaker 5: helped me win my fantasy league and all this kind
Speaker 5: of stuff. And I was like, you almost feel like
Speaker 5: a piece of meat, like you're not even like they
Speaker 5: forget your playing career and all this, it's just you
Speaker 5: helped me when fantasy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like man that run you made against
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh in a playoff or where you're like it was awesome. No, dude,
Speaker 2: you gave me. I got thirty points off you in
Speaker 2: week four when the player doesn't even remember the fan.
Speaker 2: But it's true league three hundred bucks. Yes, yes, it's
Speaker 2: like I sacrifice a win for my favorite team as
Speaker 2: opposed to winning the fantasy league and the twenty five
Speaker 2: bucks that week. Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 5: Fantasy is what gets fantasy is why Week five on
Speaker 5: Thursday night football Jags versus Card everybody's watching.
Speaker 2: That live football game is always going to make more
Speaker 2: than any studio show you can put on when it
Speaker 2: comes to football. It's a fact I've sat through those
Speaker 2: meetings that he is. You could put Slippery Rock versus
Speaker 2: Bowling Green on a Tuesday, it's going to rate better
Speaker 2: than your Sports Center or most of the stuff you're
Speaker 2: putting on it. Mark Shapiro used to come in and
Speaker 2: talk about he goes, yep, that's why, oh, more games,
Speaker 2: more game. We can fit a college football game on
Speaker 2: every night program. It doesn't matter who's playing. Somehow someway.
Speaker 2: If you're college football fan, you're gonna pass by and say,
Speaker 2: let me stop in here for a second. Maybe we'll
Speaker 2: get a good one late in the season and a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of snow for two teams we're not even
Speaker 2: rooting for. And in the NFL, it's the same way
Speaker 2: fantasy drives it. And when you got like seventy five
Speaker 2: million play in fantasy sports, there's a reason why it's
Speaker 2: a billion dollars.
Speaker 5: Legal sports betting. It's making it much more interesting thing
Speaker 5: as well. Imagine that concept. We could get that in
Speaker 5: the state of Texas so tremendous.
Speaker 2: And there's places now where you can play like the
Speaker 2: futures bets when you call them futures predictions, the prediction
Speaker 2: mark like Calshi you can make you you can just
Speaker 2: mention them, but you can actually because you're like, well,
Speaker 2: how do we do this in Texas? There's ways to
Speaker 2: do it, but it'd be nice if we didn't have
Speaker 2: to find ways.
Speaker 5: He could just walk down to the mattress Mack has
Speaker 5: to drive across the Louisiana border.
Speaker 2: You'll make his bets right, instead of walk across the
Speaker 2: street at a bar and say, you know, what I'd
Speaker 2: like to take this one, this one, and this one.
Speaker 5: I can't wait till that day. We're worried about more
Speaker 5: important things like marijuana. Right, you know, Damn Damn Patrick.
Speaker 2: What do we do? I got a great idea legalize
Speaker 2: them both. Too much money to be made.
Speaker 5: All right, final hour of Sean Salisbury. Sure, come on
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Speaker 5: This is the Seawan Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven nine
Speaker 5: and Chris Gordy in for Dan Matthews. We got Shawn,
Speaker 5: we got Triple Lee, and we got your Houston Astros
Speaker 5: American League leading Houston Astros. I can't say it enough
Speaker 5: this morning. It's absolutely nuts. So at the Astros are
Speaker 5: tied with the Toronto Blue Jays for the best record
Speaker 5: in the American week sixty and forty two sixty wins. Now,
Speaker 5: let's do the math. They've played one hundred and two games,
Speaker 5: so what they played one sixty two? Sixty games remain,
Speaker 5: so you got sixty wins with sixty games remaining, and
Speaker 5: the Astros have won four in a row. And Sean,
Speaker 5: I got a crazy stat for you. Brian McTaggart's been
Speaker 5: tweeting this out. He's been tracking this the last couple
Speaker 5: of games, and it continued on yesterday. The Astros have
Speaker 5: allowed it again. Despite being the best record in the
Speaker 5: American League. They're on a four game win streak. The
Speaker 5: Astros have allowed the opposition to score the first run
Speaker 5: of the game in fourteen consecutive games. That is a
Speaker 5: club record. They have never done that before. The Houston
Speaker 5: has not scored first in a game since the fourth
Speaker 5: of July, and yet here they are first best team
Speaker 5: in the Americans.
Speaker 2: Now we add that stat and it even makes it
Speaker 2: more amazing of what they've done and where they're at.
Speaker 2: That's incredible. Like you look at the opponent, you go, hey,
Speaker 2: you scored first, Oh cool, we're gonna score two. Right
Speaker 2: when you're spotting somebody a lead. Can did you come
Speaker 2: out of the locker room saying the other deposing teams
Speaker 2: up seven and nothing to start the game all the time?
Speaker 3: What what?
Speaker 2: And the fact that you're not only overcoming it, but
Speaker 2: you are winning those games for the majority of them,
Speaker 2: pretty impressive. Fourteen straight. How often does that happen to
Speaker 2: How often does that happen to anybody? I mean that
Speaker 2: that's a hard stat to fathom.
Speaker 5: Aggie Doug said, I think at this point, a spot
Speaker 5: is just trying to challenge himself. Hey, hey, what more
Speaker 5: can we do to put ourselves at a disadvantage.
Speaker 2: You go out and hand up the lineup cards, say, boach, uh,
Speaker 2: did we just tell you? Just put a run on
Speaker 2: the board. We'll give you one. We'll spotch you. Well,
Speaker 2: we're that good now, even with all these injuries, we
Speaker 2: can spot you.
Speaker 5: Confident in my game, I'm going to back Victor Carrottini
Speaker 5: second today. That our backup catcher. That's theh Hey give
Speaker 5: him a run on the board.
Speaker 2: We're good. Thanks. And if that, if that's what it takes,
Speaker 2: the challenge and keep winning, I'm all in. If that's
Speaker 2: what they want to do, we're allowed to. It's incredible.
Speaker 2: Don't give baseball any ideas because they'll find another gimmick. Hey,
Speaker 2: you know what, if you've if something happened and you
Speaker 2: did something or broke a rule. We get we got
Speaker 2: to spot the team. It's like, you know what the
Speaker 2: in the the PGA Tour and they change it this
Speaker 2: year or you no longer get to you know, they
Speaker 2: have the end of the year FedEx Cup Points where
Speaker 2: they go to Atlanta and they play in the winner
Speaker 2: gets twenty five million dollars. Yeah, but it's been in
Speaker 2: the past that if you're the number one guy, you
Speaker 2: go in depending on your season, like you automatically start
Speaker 2: with a three stroke lead or a four stroke lead
Speaker 2: going into that turn. Now everybody's equal. If you're number one,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. So you were you were given a
Speaker 2: head start. Don't give baseball any gimmick ideas because Rob
Speaker 2: Bannf will say, you know what, I got a great idea.
Speaker 2: If you lost by more than five runs the night
Speaker 2: before the team that lost, you spot them or run
Speaker 2: to start the game to make it a little more competitive.
Speaker 2: We're gonna give Colorado since they're seventy four games out
Speaker 2: of first place, we give them three runs to start
Speaker 2: a game. Don't give Major League Baseball any gimmick ideas.
Speaker 2: They'll jump all over it.
Speaker 5: We do I forgot to mention this earlier in the show.
Speaker 5: We do owe a big thank you to home played
Speaker 5: umpire Brian Walsh yesterday who was a helping the Astros
Speaker 5: out on some borderline pitches. But the one that ended
Speaker 5: the game. Did you see it, Sean Josh Hater? It
Speaker 5: was a full count to tell Marte, and I mean, look,
Speaker 5: as soon as Hater threw it and it landed. I
Speaker 5: was watching the game with Ross. We both went, I
Speaker 5: walked him and then the umpire kind of slowly does
Speaker 5: the steps away, rings him, wrings him up, and that's ballgame. Look.
Speaker 5: Sometimes I'm not gonna look, I'm not gonna apologize because
Speaker 5: the Astors have been the victim of bad calls a
Speaker 5: lot this year.
Speaker 2: So we'll take them.
Speaker 5: Sometimes they go your way, sometimes they go your way.
Speaker 2: Take them and in a year with all these injuries,
Speaker 2: you'll take them anyway you can get him to win.
Speaker 2: Did was it yesterday or the day before? I'm trying
Speaker 2: to remember that they run together a night game to
Speaker 2: day game, did Marte? I mean, did uh? Who opened it?
Speaker 2: Did they open the game with a home run in
Speaker 2: the first yesterday? That's right? Okay, exactly? So yeah, seven innings. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was really he was pretty brilliant yesterday and and
Speaker 2: you needed it to to prevent you having to go
Speaker 2: four or five different guys in a bullpen. Good good
Speaker 2: on him and good on them.
Speaker 5: I bet to bring this up earlier too, when we
Speaker 5: were talking about the division race and the Al West
Speaker 5: and where it stands right now. And yeah, the Astros
Speaker 5: have a little bit of a cushion six game lead
Speaker 5: on Seattle Mariners. Don't look now, but the Texas Rangers
Speaker 5: have won three in a row, eight of their last ten.
Speaker 5: They are five and one since the All Star break,
Speaker 5: and Seattle better be worried about them. Yeah, like they
Speaker 5: were worried about the Astros.
Speaker 2: Oh, we're so close.
Speaker 5: Almost beat the Astros, almost swept them, And now objects
Speaker 5: in the rearview mirror, the Rangers are just a game
Speaker 5: and a half back of Seattle. So Seattle six back
Speaker 5: of the Astros, Rangers just a game and half behind them. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so Rangers might start getting healthy here and they may
Speaker 5: jump up in the second place.
Speaker 2: And in truth, any Bruce Bochie every other year managed
Speaker 2: team you know in San Francisco, didn't they go h
Speaker 2: was it odd years? I can't remember a year, but
Speaker 2: they win one, lose, didn't they win the next than
Speaker 2: lose another win. So every other year Bruce Bochi's teams
Speaker 2: were winning championships and comes here wins it the first one.
Speaker 2: Last year they took a step back. Odds are to
Speaker 2: me that the Texas Rangers are not going away, and
Speaker 2: they can pitch, as we know their top two guys
Speaker 2: with the Gram and Valdi, are pretty damn good, and
Speaker 2: they're pretty deep there, and we know that they've got
Speaker 2: bats that can rake if they're going good, So they
Speaker 2: are a concern. Six games is nice, but Seattle, you're
Speaker 2: exactly right. Those objects are closer than they may appear,
Speaker 2: and hence why Also the Astros probably aren't overly comfortable
Speaker 2: with the six game we saw quickly. That could dissipate if,
Speaker 2: in fact, you go through a series or two where
Speaker 2: you're not playing good baseball and the other one is.
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be fun. I wouldn't think that this
Speaker 2: division is going to be I don't think this is
Speaker 2: a twelve You know you're gonna win a division by
Speaker 2: twelve games. I think it'll be a bunch closer, probably
Speaker 2: even closer than six games. But what a nice feeling
Speaker 2: to know that when you get healthy, you got a
Speaker 2: six game lead. Yeah, well this or I hope you
Speaker 2: have a six game lead when you finally do get healthy.
Speaker 5: The Rangers right out of the break took two out
Speaker 5: of three against Detroit. I mean, that was that was
Speaker 5: pretty big. They just swept the A's, which it's the
Speaker 5: lowly A's, that's who the Astros begin a series with tonight.
Speaker 2: But they didn't. They still beat teams they are supposed
Speaker 2: to and that's important.
Speaker 5: Well, look at the next six for the Rangers. They
Speaker 5: get three at home against the Braves, who are i
Speaker 5: mean massively under achieve, which incredible, and then they go
Speaker 5: out for three against the Angels, who you know aren't great,
Speaker 5: and then they go for four out in Seattle. There's
Speaker 5: a chance the Rangers going in that series with Seattle
Speaker 5: and they take care of business. They jump Seattle, and
Speaker 5: suddenly we're talking about Seattle's not even the hunt anymore
Speaker 5: and the Rangers of the team chasing the ass.
Speaker 2: Right, And if you're the Astros, now you worry about
Speaker 2: your own business and not paying attention to other people's schedule.
Speaker 5: But in truth, as you go and lose three out
Speaker 5: of four to Oakland. You're gonna lose a lot of
Speaker 5: good will.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. So you have while you keep an
Speaker 2: eye on It's like you're at the eighteenth t box
Speaker 2: leading the golf tournament by two strokes. I would suggest
Speaker 2: you look at the leaderboard to make sure what kind
Speaker 2: of shot you're going to hit. And I I'm sure
Speaker 2: the Astros they're resilience understanding where they are. They're not
Speaker 2: taking a six game lead for granted. Hence why you
Speaker 2: gotta win the ones you're supposed to, which means birdie
Speaker 2: par five's, and the Astros have to do that. Those
Speaker 2: are the ones where you when it becomes a moving
Speaker 2: day where you extend your lead, you can't. You can't
Speaker 2: split or lose series the teams you're supposed to beat,
Speaker 2: and now they come home and it's pretty favorable for
Speaker 2: them the next handful of games here as well.
Speaker 5: It's crazy this this pitching matchup. If you know, like
Speaker 5: on paper, it's Jason Alexander tonight, not the star of
Speaker 5: Seinfeld going up against Luis Severino. I mean, like that
Speaker 5: matchup three years ago, you'd have been like the hell
Speaker 5: Oakland A's they're gonna they're gonna beat the hell out
Speaker 5: of the Astros post but several Reno's got a five
Speaker 5: to n era this year, three and eleven record, and
Speaker 5: he's the shell of his former self. And we got
Speaker 5: this dude, Jason Alexander who's just risen to the occasion
Speaker 5: and pitched well when the Astros have called on him.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. So four gamer right is.
Speaker 6: A game?
Speaker 2: Or that game?
Speaker 5: They're all night games. Okay, they are all Sunday's afternoon.
Speaker 2: There you go, Okay, cool, So a chance to to
Speaker 2: hell might as well go sweep another series that'd be
Speaker 2: nice as well. That'd be nice, and then it doesn't
Speaker 2: matter how the guy's behind your plane. Who cares?
Speaker 5: I think I saw the theme tonight. They're doing Christmas
Speaker 5: in July, so they're like, you can buy an Astros
Speaker 5: Christmas sweater and like the giveaway is an al two
Speaker 5: v A Christmas sweater, bobblehead, you.
Speaker 2: Know, give me stuff. It already got us thinking we're
Speaker 2: gonna be putting Christmas lights up before you have a
Speaker 2: Halloween costume. That's how we do in this halfway there, yep, yep,
Speaker 2: halfway to Christmas. That is wild though, because you hit
Speaker 2: the skin. Once you hit August, it's full football mode
Speaker 2: or rock and roll. Then it's September the weather starts,
Speaker 2: so change a little bit. And then yeah, then it's
Speaker 2: full Halloween mode, and then it's Thanksgiving and then this
Speaker 2: Christmas and it just flies by and we'll be bitching
Speaker 2: because football season is almost over. Left.
Speaker 5: Well, hopefully it's a long Texans.
Speaker 2: And hopefully it's a long Astros postseason as well. And
Speaker 2: then you get a good jump start for the Rockets
Speaker 2: and continue this really cool stuff. And then we get
Speaker 2: Kelvin Sampson's basketball team and hopefully the Kevin Durant Ad
Speaker 2: and it's a hell of a year for Willie Fritz
Speaker 2: And so there you go. It's a good things going
Speaker 2: on here in Houston, with a chance to actually win
Speaker 2: conferences and win divisions in a lot of different sports,
Speaker 2: which is nice. Yeah.
Speaker 5: By the way, what's what's that day? I got to
Speaker 5: look that up real quick. September twelfth, week three Friday night,
Speaker 5: September twelfth, the U of H Cougars. We'll play hosts
Speaker 5: to Coach Prime and the Colorado Buffalore.
Speaker 2: Need to we need to throw a tailgate or something.
Speaker 2: They got to with.
Speaker 5: They open with Steven F. Austin. And then week two
Speaker 5: they're at Rice. Sorry Rice, no offense to you. I
Speaker 5: hope you do well.
Speaker 2: But they're going to be two and oh. We need
Speaker 2: the cooks to.
Speaker 5: Start two and oh, because can you imagine they're two
Speaker 5: and oh going into their first big twelve game of
Speaker 5: the season against Coach Prime.
Speaker 2: On a Friday night. Let's go to in. Maybe we
Speaker 2: are maybe jbar and Barbecue and us ought to get
Speaker 2: together and see I already committed. I'm already committing that food.
Speaker 2: Sorry guys, but hey, just a few fun.
Speaker 5: A few RV companies out there want to set up
Speaker 5: some r.
Speaker 2: V there you go, We're all in, and uh sean
Speaker 2: him out, fire.
Speaker 5: A hot tub as well to soak in a lady
Speaker 5: to feed him grapes as well. Would like that.
Speaker 2: We'll keep talking. Don't forget the oil on my chest.
Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, I need a plunge pool too,
Speaker 2: because it's still will be hot and he's yet have
Speaker 2: a punge pool.
Speaker 5: And those like on a movie set, the guys who
Speaker 5: hold the screen to shade the sun from you. We
Speaker 5: need that.
Speaker 2: Or the old Dave Campbell, remember the broadcast baseball broadcaster
Speaker 2: Dave Campbell, who was you always had the tan. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you remember him a little younger, but
Speaker 2: Dave would when he'd show pictures of himself when he'd
Speaker 2: come to Bristol at the hotel Dave, because he had
Speaker 2: a tan and it was the middle of he could
Speaker 2: have been in in Outer Mongolia and the guy would
Speaker 2: have had a tan, and so Dave he'd sit there
Speaker 2: be smoking a grit and he'd have that thing that
Speaker 2: you know, you put the little finger reflector and it
Speaker 2: kicks up off it. He'd behold, that's sitting in a
Speaker 2: lawn chair outside the hotel with the grit in his hand. Well,
Speaker 2: the tan's hitting him and he's getting ready to talk
Speaker 2: baseball in August. It was classic. We always thin to
Speaker 2: give our time, but I'll tell you what his tan
Speaker 2: was like, George Hamilton tan always perfect.
Speaker 5: Well, well we'll talk to you, of h We'll get
Speaker 5: you taken.
Speaker 2: Care to go. I'm in, I'm in, I'm in.
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Speaker 5: Horble.
Speaker 2: Now back to the Shan Solisborough show. W a knucklehead.
Speaker 5: We're going to go to the meeting days and our
Speaker 5: goal is not to make any any waves. We want
Speaker 5: to just go talk about our team and get the
Speaker 5: hell out of there. Whereas these other conferences are going
Speaker 5: I'm going to take a shot at the sec.
Speaker 2: Aren't you always shooting from down from up at the
Speaker 2: at the big dog. Of course, and SEC is used
Speaker 2: to this because every single year they face it and
Speaker 2: this year, man even Hey, when you got the Indiana
Speaker 2: Hoosiers who were great last year, Gay, don't don't misunderstanding.
Speaker 2: They had a phenomenal season and Signette he's a really
Speaker 2: good coach, but he's also fairly brash. But when you
Speaker 2: got the Indiana well, which has been a basketball school
Speaker 2: for a long time, when you got them coming out
Speaker 2: saying bashing the conference or you know, testing them and
Speaker 2: we know there's a method, is madness. He doesn't have
Speaker 2: a problem speaking his language. He he he did it
Speaker 2: on college game day a couple times last year. I
Speaker 2: love his energy. But we got Indiana Hoosiers head coaches
Speaker 2: telling you how bad a conference years is Gordy, that
Speaker 2: you guys are a soft conference in the SEO.
Speaker 5: So I mean, needless to say, and again Indiana had
Speaker 5: a great season last year, but need I point out
Speaker 5: Seawan he played one ranked opponent all year last year,
Speaker 5: that was our highest stay and he lost by thirty.
Speaker 2: How'd that playoff go? Again?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean yeah, I lost by what got your
Speaker 5: brains beat in? By Notre Dame? But like your regular season,
Speaker 5: you played one ranked team and the one ranked team
Speaker 5: you lost to, I mean in the sec of teams
Speaker 5: playing six ranked teams and they go three and three,
Speaker 5: but those three losses you kept you out. So it
Speaker 5: becomes and this is where what I hate about the
Speaker 5: stupid dopes in the hotel room in Dallas, the playoff
Speaker 5: committee is they put too much stock into losing and
Speaker 5: not enough stock into who'd you beat. If you went
Speaker 5: four and two against top twenty five opponents, you beat
Speaker 5: four top twenty five opponents, they're still gonna go two losses. Indiana,
Speaker 5: they had one loss, but Indiana didn't play anybody. They
Speaker 5: didn't test themselves, they weren't challenged all year. Still, eleven
Speaker 5: is more than ten. Yeah, it's like it's like, loss,
Speaker 5: we're the top twenty five teams.
Speaker 2: Come on, now, Son, and then your four wins were
Speaker 2: in top twenty five or at least Power Conference teams.
Speaker 2: There's got to be.
Speaker 5: There's no nuance now to the conversation. They're just going, well,
Speaker 5: eleven is more than ten, Like you know, it's like
Speaker 5: it's like we're doing count what's his name on on
Speaker 5: Sesame Street, Whereas to me, you know, what we do
Speaker 5: in college basketball, there is nuance. They go, Yeah, look,
Speaker 5: I know Auburn lost a duke back in December, but
Speaker 5: that's a quality loss. They lost on the road by four.
Speaker 5: Well let's boost them up. And in basketball they do
Speaker 5: quad one wins and quad two wins. God, if we
Speaker 5: started doing that football, a lot of people would start
Speaker 5: getting exposed on soft as schedule.
Speaker 2: You are not kidding, brother, And I don't know why
Speaker 2: it's not carry over to both. They're both committees, just
Speaker 2: one has more teams than the other. Right, why why
Speaker 2: should that change? Why shouldn't the criteria be uniformed. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter the number of teams. It matters the
Speaker 2: way you approach the opponent or way and losses. Who
Speaker 2: you played, doesn't who you play and where they are
Speaker 2: have to come into play. Gordy, it should and I
Speaker 2: know quality losses, but if you lose to Alabama but
Speaker 2: beat Tennessee Chattanooga, right, I gotta take that into account. Right.
Speaker 5: Well, look, Texas is going to challenging themselves and scheduling
Speaker 5: a week one game at Ohio State, the reigning national champs.
Speaker 5: Yet if Texas loses that game or Texas season's over,
Speaker 5: you took a loss and it's like, so, we're not
Speaker 5: gonna give any credit for scheduling that game, right, and
Speaker 5: it just because it almost because you must, like for
Speaker 5: LSU and Brian Kelly, you must go win at Clemson
Speaker 5: week one because if you don't, seasons, oh, the season
Speaker 5: might be over. It's like, okay, well then you're telling
Speaker 5: me I should have scheduled Old Dominion, right, you know,
Speaker 5: because you're going to count that as a win. And
Speaker 5: that's what Indiana did. They are getting credit. They're three
Speaker 5: non conference games open the season are Old Dominion, Kennesaw State,
Speaker 5: and Indiana State, and.
Speaker 2: If they're not three and oh, then you should eliminate
Speaker 2: them immediately.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, they'll win those, but the point being is
Speaker 5: they're playing that, well, Texas is playing Ohio State, and
Speaker 5: it's like this, these schedules are not created.
Speaker 2: Equal and at the end of the season, I can
Speaker 2: honestly say a three point loss to an Ohio State
Speaker 2: team probably should hold more weight than a Kennesaw State win. Yes, Okay,
Speaker 2: does that make sense? Is it should? There's got to
Speaker 2: I mean, we've got to have some common sense in this.
Speaker 2: But we've lost that not only in how we go
Speaker 2: about sports, but obviously society we just don't. Somehow, some way,
Speaker 2: common sense was lost along the way. And guess what
Speaker 2: when it comes to the committee in football, we lost
Speaker 2: it there too for the most part.
Speaker 5: And here's the dumb part about these conferences is they
Speaker 5: get so big you don't see everybody. Indiana Sean, they're
Speaker 5: in the Big Ten, but they don't play Ohio State
Speaker 5: or Michigan this year, which I don't get. It's like
Speaker 5: what they don't get? I know, I mean, I know
Speaker 5: the number of teams, but I just it's just hard
Speaker 5: to fathom that.
Speaker 2: It's like a couple times when you roll through like
Speaker 2: was it sc maybe or was it Oregon or somebody
Speaker 2: they went through and you didn't have to play Utah,
Speaker 2: USC or Washington in the same year, It's like, how'd
Speaker 2: you come up with that gig? When the Pac twelve
Speaker 2: was in? But you know, luck of the draw. But
Speaker 2: I understand the number of teams, but when you go
Speaker 2: through it, hey man, did you guys we didn't play them?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Okay, once you're going to get credit for that win
Speaker 2: and you beat the fifteenth best team in a Big Ten.
Speaker 5: That's like Oklahoma was complaining that, you know when they
Speaker 5: when the schedules came out because they gave you know,
Speaker 5: the SEC SID sixteen teams. They gave Oklahoma eight teams,
Speaker 5: they gave Texas eight teams. Right, and then this year
Speaker 5: the schedule stays the same, just home and away flips,
Speaker 5: so you keep the same opponents. Well, poor Oklahoma got Texas, LSU, Alabama, Tennessee,
Speaker 5: you know, filling the blank, South Carolina, Auburn, and Texas
Speaker 5: got the other side. Well two straight years in the SEC.
Speaker 5: Texas got the benefit of the drug gam right, they
Speaker 5: did of the opponents. So it's just again, this is
Speaker 5: the schedule. Inequity is what I call it. It is
Speaker 5: not created equal across the board. Some teams are playing
Speaker 5: paddy cake schedules and some teams are playing brutal.
Speaker 2: Scaled and at times you're still getting credit for playing
Speaker 2: a bad schedule if you win.
Speaker 5: That's all again, all the committee saying this go tip
Speaker 5: number of wins. No offense to SMU last year. But
Speaker 5: you know, prior to getting to the ACC title game,
Speaker 5: which they lost, they beat two ranked opponents all year,
Speaker 5: Louisville and Pitt.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you if if if and I understand
Speaker 2: how the rules are set up and real quick, Gordy,
Speaker 2: do you if SMU on a neutral site, just neutral
Speaker 2: played l ole Miss last year or South Carolina, who
Speaker 2: would you have picked in both games? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I think I think the two SEC teams you probably.
Speaker 2: Would have right, but you probably would have take the
Speaker 2: bias out of it. You would have said, well, Jackson, Darton,
Speaker 2: Ole Miss, I'll take them, and the way Lenor say,
Speaker 2: you would have taken them even though SMU and Rhet
Speaker 2: Lashley's team played great football. But you would have even
Speaker 2: though they got in and lost the the championship and
Speaker 2: got in, you would have taken Ole Miss and South Carolina.
Speaker 2: You may have taken them no matter where the game
Speaker 2: was being played as well a neutral site or even
Speaker 2: at a home game for SMU. And that's not to
Speaker 2: diminish or shrink what SMU did, but it's the common
Speaker 2: sense that comes into when you put a team in.
Speaker 2: Who they played and who they lost to does matter,
Speaker 2: and it should come into account over Listen, I'll take
Speaker 2: it's more if you take a loss to a top
Speaker 2: ten team but you beat Kennesaw State, I'm putting more
Speaker 2: stock into a close loss than i am a a
Speaker 2: win that my fourth string team could win, I should
Speaker 2: be on a committeers.
Speaker 5: Can we please get you on that damn playoff committee
Speaker 5: in Dallas? Because whoever these morons are that they're putting
Speaker 5: in there, I couldn't believe Shoan when they showed shots
Speaker 5: of them watching the games. Nobody is a note pad. Yeah,
Speaker 5: nobody's taking notes, nobody's They're just sitting around.
Speaker 2: What's your game? I'll volunteer. I'm in. If they want
Speaker 2: me out of the committee, I'll do it. And I
Speaker 2: won't even play favorites to my trojans, because if you
Speaker 2: can't play defense, you don't deserve to be in there anyway.
Speaker 5: So I have no problem with it putting sitting athletic directors.
Speaker 5: It makes absolutely no sense.
Speaker 2: I said that exactly. I asked Greg sank you that
Speaker 2: last week. I literally said to him, I said, I
Speaker 2: have a problem. I said, is there a problem with
Speaker 2: the committee of putting athletic directors that are power for
Speaker 2: conference athletic directors that are voting? And his basic answer was,
Speaker 2: we hope that we've looked into it and the integrity
Speaker 2: of it comes into play, and that's the answer. And
Speaker 2: I understand it. But to me, there's enough bodies that
Speaker 2: watch college football that get it and understand what we're
Speaker 2: trying to accomplish. That a sitting athletic director at Michigan
Speaker 2: or Penn State does not need to be on the
Speaker 2: committee or at LSU or Southern Cal.
Speaker 5: You literally have a financial implication, yes, because if X
Speaker 5: amount of teams from your conference make the playoff, there's
Speaker 5: a payout.
Speaker 2: Oh and also a lot of times guess what, there's
Speaker 2: bonuses involved too for ad all of that stuff. So yeah,
Speaker 2: the payout doesn't just go to the conference or the
Speaker 2: team that there's also I mean they're basically lobbyists, is
Speaker 2: what they are. Ye, And you just I don't know
Speaker 2: how you remain if it's down to your team and
Speaker 2: somebody else? Are you conference? Aren't you going to lean
Speaker 2: to your conference even though you think that maybe you
Speaker 2: don't deserve it. That would be human nature and that
Speaker 2: doesn't lack integrity, that's just human nature. You hope integrity
Speaker 2: comes into it. Yeah, I'll volunteer. You can put me
Speaker 2: on that committee tomorrow. I'm in Well, we'll send the
Speaker 2: card up to to Dallas. I have a hunch like
Speaker 2: Augusta and probably that's probably gonna get denied. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm probably not going to get that top thirteen. Ye
Speaker 2: all right, Although my teammate Randall McDaniel in Minnesota, I believe,
Speaker 2: was on that committee last year, two years ago. Last year,
Speaker 2: and you know rand and it was good. He's an
Speaker 2: Arizona State guy. But and ironically he's at Arizona State win.
Speaker 2: But Randall was always next watching. Can you put me
Speaker 2: on your shoulders a big fellow, and I'll sit right
Speaker 2: next to you.
Speaker 5: I'll treat all right over return and got a couple
Speaker 5: of Texans nuggets will head on right here on the
Speaker 5: Shot Salzburg Show.
Speaker 1: The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 5: Trading away five time Pro Bowl left tackle Laramie Tunsel
Speaker 5: and plugging in three to four new starters, searching for
Speaker 5: the best configuration of five blockers to one protect quarterback
Speaker 5: CJ Stroud and two established the running game. And that's
Speaker 5: what's interesting about that offensive line last year. Was as
Speaker 5: good as it was at times in run blocking. I
Speaker 5: mean they were opening up holes for Joe Mixon left
Speaker 5: and right. It was in pass protection that CJ some
Speaker 5: of those downs. I mean, he's barely got the football
Speaker 5: in his hands, and he's got somewhat bearing down on
Speaker 5: him already.
Speaker 2: Actually beating him to his setup. And think about the
Speaker 2: year before, Gordy, what were they good at They ran
Speaker 2: the ball decent, right right, I mean the opposite, I
Speaker 2: take that back. They threw the ball really well in
Speaker 2: Stroud's rookie year. And what was our talk, man, They've
Speaker 2: got to give him more help running the football. They
Speaker 2: got to be more physical at the point of attack. Well,
Speaker 2: that's what its you go get mixing, you become more
Speaker 2: physical at the point of attack. And now you can't
Speaker 2: keep your quarterback upright, He chased round and then he's
Speaker 2: making decisions along the way that aren't normal for him
Speaker 2: to make that the year before throws it he would
Speaker 2: always make ball coming out premature. Your head's on a
Speaker 2: little bit of a swivel, and it becomes a cumulative
Speaker 2: effect of an offensive line not getting it done the
Speaker 2: right way. So yeah, man, Now the whole goal is
Speaker 2: to five guys. They don't have to be superstars, just solid.
Speaker 2: But now giving you the best opportunity in the run
Speaker 2: game in the past game. That's the next level for
Speaker 2: the offensive line here.
Speaker 5: And week one you will face Brandon Fisk, Jared verse
Speaker 5: poona Ford I mean Byron Young that that defensive front
Speaker 5: for the Rams pretty damn strong.
Speaker 2: So and if I'm right now, and we'll make our
Speaker 2: predictions obviously before the season, aside from Philadelphia, I'm not
Speaker 2: sure if the Rams are not the team to beat
Speaker 2: in the NFC this year. They're they're they're really good.
Speaker 2: I'm just now Stafford uh slow start to camp as
Speaker 2: far as they're they're resting him, giving him a little
Speaker 2: bit of a rest to start camp. I mean, he's
Speaker 2: not fully I think I saw it was yesterday the
Speaker 2: start of camp. It's just going to be working him
Speaker 2: in and making sure he's ready to go. But the Rams,
Speaker 2: you know who's the forty nine ers? We got Philadelphia,
Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders are a team to be reckoned with, obviously.
Speaker 2: So you start to look around the league and they're
Speaker 2: coming out of the shoot against a component I mean
Speaker 2: component up an opponent that's got good components to their team.
Speaker 2: The Rams are a definite threat this year. They just are.
Speaker 2: And think about it, Gordy, aren't they a drive a
Speaker 2: red zone series away from getting to the super Bowl
Speaker 2: against Philadelphia? Yeah? I mean they were literally that close
Speaker 2: last year. So this is a team is pretty damn good,
Speaker 2: and you're gonna get tested pretty early and see how
Speaker 2: that happens. But there's no rest. You've got to come
Speaker 2: out and you're going to have to hit them in
Speaker 2: the mouth because they're front seven is pretty damn good.
Speaker 5: Couldn't you say the Texans were one or two good
Speaker 5: drives away from pulling it off up in Kansas?
Speaker 2: They absolutely can. For a Kansas City Chiefs offen, how's
Speaker 2: this for a team that went fifteen to two in
Speaker 2: their offense? Was during the regular season fairly pedestrian until
Speaker 2: it came time to win in one score games and winning,
Speaker 2: and the Kansas City Chiefs did that. But yes they were.
Speaker 2: And that's why the fine line, and I'll always say it, Gordia,
Speaker 2: it never comes down to one play now kicker snap
Speaker 2: hooks a field goal at the end. We always say
Speaker 2: it's one play, but it's six, seven, eight plays along
Speaker 2: the course of a game that you could go back
Speaker 2: in the second court and say, you know what, we
Speaker 2: were third and a half yard and we went forward
Speaker 2: on fourth down and we couldn't move the ball a
Speaker 2: half yard at the twenty seven yard line. We left
Speaker 2: three points on the table and we didn't get a
Speaker 2: first down on two plays running the ball for a
Speaker 2: half yard. There's two plays right there, so it's never
Speaker 2: the last one, but six r eight plays change it,
Speaker 2: and there you have it. A series or two against
Speaker 2: Kansas City. If the narrative shifts or the performance shifts,
Speaker 2: the Houston Texans are moving on to what would have
Speaker 2: been what the to the to the AFC Championship game.
Speaker 5: As Aaron points out in his piece, he says, you
Speaker 5: know Jake Andrews start at start at center in mini camp,
Speaker 5: it was Jared Patterson last year starter back at center.
Speaker 5: Massive rookie second round Pickianta Ersiri was at right tackle
Speaker 5: ahead of Blake Fisher, who was first team offense in
Speaker 5: mini camp but struggled last season. So Ersrie is in there.
Speaker 5: And then a left side it was Cam Robinson and
Speaker 5: Laken Tomlinson. Titus Howard, arguably the top lineman of the group,
Speaker 5: lined up at his new right guard spot. This whole
Speaker 5: O line being overseen by Cole Popovich, who has promoted
Speaker 5: from assistant on line coach to head offensive line coach
Speaker 5: this year.
Speaker 2: Gordy, haven't we seen Titus Howard who came in as
Speaker 2: a left tackle and he's right tackle. The only position
Speaker 2: he hasn't played his center, I've seen it. Now, left guard,
Speaker 2: he's played right guard, he's played left hand. Now that's
Speaker 2: we talk about. Hey, give me a swing offensive lineman
Speaker 2: that can do both. But that a guy wh's played
Speaker 2: four positions, it'd be nice to have his right hand
Speaker 2: in the dirt with a right handed stance. Sitting at
Speaker 2: guard for seventeen games would be really nice to see
Speaker 2: because the constant mixing and matching and puzzle piece has
Speaker 2: become a problem. That's the last unit you want rotating players.
Speaker 2: He may need a guy for a banged up injury
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter of a game or coming in
Speaker 2: when you go jumbo personnel that you're using a tackle
Speaker 2: as a tight end. But of all the positions, continuity,
Speaker 2: give me those five cats up front, even more so
Speaker 2: than a quarterback receiver, because you're running a curl. The
Speaker 2: curls the curls a curl. But those guys in sync,
Speaker 2: good of them. No pun intended with the boy band,
Speaker 2: but if you're that in sync, you'll have a chance.
Speaker 2: So it'd be nice to see the continuity where it's
Speaker 2: not mix and match for twelve it'd be like having
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty lineups in baseball. Now, if you
Speaker 2: can get the same result Joe Spotty gets, I'm in.
Speaker 2: But that's not usually the case. With an offensive line
Speaker 2: that's constantly shuffling people. You got to get settled in
Speaker 2: up there, because when the offensive line on any team
Speaker 2: is a bell cow for you, the rest of the
Speaker 2: team's better. And it's just a different attitude among players.
Speaker 2: I've been on teams with both, and the teams with
Speaker 2: good offensive lines set a bigger tone than anybody would
Speaker 2: have on the perimeter. Doesn't matter who the quarterback of
Speaker 2: the wide receiver is, just don't get him killed out there.
Speaker 5: One more Texans note ibacker Christian Harris not practicing but
Speaker 5: active as team rans some up to get started at camp.
Speaker 5: Missed the majority of last season. Getting Christian Harris back
Speaker 5: healthy with the addition of EJ. Speedback there, I think
Speaker 5: this lineback and core can be much better.
Speaker 2: That because you already know you're going to pressure up front.
Speaker 2: You've got bookend guys. Linebackers can run and they're nasty,
Speaker 2: and it's as good a young secondary, and it's a
Speaker 2: top five, top three secondary in the league. That defense
Speaker 2: will be the tone setter. Now, you just need the
Speaker 2: offensive line to match their physicality. The rest will take
Speaker 2: care of itself because he got some backs, so that
Speaker 2: they're going to expect you to be physical upfront, because hell,
Speaker 2: the two most physical guys on the team offensively may
Speaker 2: very well be your number one and two running back.
Speaker 2: Offensive line needs to match their intensity and physicality if
Speaker 2: they're going to get where they want to go, and
Speaker 2: that's not just to a divisional game.
Speaker 5: When we come back. We'll wrap things up here this Thursday.
Speaker 5: Sean Salisby's sha right here on Sports Talks of the Night.
Speaker 1: This is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 4: Sales.
Speaker 2: That's goodiful, there'll be some great life for some new people.
Speaker 2: Sandler is, you know, obviously loyal to a lot of
Speaker 2: good people.
Speaker 5: And the crazy part of this on they filmed that,
Speaker 5: they filmed it up a good bit of it up
Speaker 5: in Canada and listening to David Spades podcast, they were
Speaker 5: that same summer they were filming Spade and Farley were
Speaker 5: filming Tommy Boy yep, while Sandler was filming Happy Gilmourt.
Speaker 2: Yeah crazy to think that crazy and too, I can't.
Speaker 2: I mean, when you think about those guys and now
Speaker 2: we don't. And you obviously know how close Sandler and
Speaker 2: Farley were, you know, but to do that, and the
Speaker 2: success of both movies, and the fact that we probably
Speaker 2: are looking for a Tommy Boy too, but you don't
Speaker 2: try to emulate finally on that, you can't do that.
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, I don't think Sandler ever would for
Speaker 2: that very reason.
Speaker 5: Well, I heard there was a sailor said recently they
Speaker 5: had a script for Happy Gilmore two that they had
Speaker 5: been in the works for a while, and it was
Speaker 5: going to be a spin off of It was going
Speaker 5: to be Chubbs played by Carl Weathers, Right, his who
Speaker 5: dies in the first one, Right, but he makes appearances
Speaker 5: to Happy from Heaven. Right, It was gonna be Chubbs's
Speaker 5: son is now a PGAT golfer and he wants revenge
Speaker 5: on Happy Gilmore for killing his dad.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, And there was gonna be this whole.
Speaker 5: Storyline, and it was gonna be Carl Weather's appearing from
Speaker 5: Heaven and all this. Well, when Carl Weathers died they
Speaker 5: had to scrap that whole storyline. They're like, well, we can't.
Speaker 5: What are we gonna do now we don't have Chubbs
Speaker 5: it's exactly right.
Speaker 2: So yeah, but I would imagine the script's final was
Speaker 2: talking to Swartzon about that too. They've been at work
Speaker 2: for a long time and he finally got talked into
Speaker 2: it because nothing's passing through the Happy Madison group unless
Speaker 2: the big Man decides that we'll do a sequel, yeah,
Speaker 2: or we'll do another one, or we'll do a second one.
Speaker 2: And I'm glad he signed a few years.
Speaker 5: It was like a ten movie deal that.
Speaker 2: I told you, Gordy dry Break. That's a He's a
Speaker 2: cash cow for them. He always has been, because it's
Speaker 2: at the back end of the mood, you know, all
Speaker 2: the the redo's and the points and the stuff they
Speaker 2: get and the video all and Netflix. Netflix was the perfect,
Speaker 2: the perfect after all the COVID stuff and stuff for
Speaker 2: Sandler and their group to go into because they pump
Speaker 2: them out and dude, they're walking around there. All those
Speaker 2: guys are such talented riders, you know. Swardson's always telling me, man,
Speaker 2: I put this on Sandler's desk, so we got this. Hey,
Speaker 2: I want you to write this part of this. Can
Speaker 2: you do that? I Mean, it's just constant and it's
Speaker 2: like it's organized chaos. Around there, but when they finally
Speaker 2: get it all on paper, it ends up being really good.
Speaker 2: So they had I can't wait to see.
Speaker 5: This Sandlor with the movie deals, they have, Stranger Things, Narcos, Daredevil, Yeah,
Speaker 5: Netflix doing pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're doing all right. Yeah. And there's a big
Speaker 2: one of the bigger officers in there, I'm sure is
Speaker 2: the guy who's pumping out Happy Gilmore. And just as
Speaker 2: one of us, you're like, oh, that's Sandler. He's probably
Speaker 2: got a polo shirt on and cargo pants ready to
Speaker 2: go play hoops today to celebrate the release of Happy Gilmore.
Speaker 2: And I wish him luck and hopefully after this clears,
Speaker 2: we can get him on, you know, because he's doing
Speaker 2: the whole car wash, get him on to kind of
Speaker 2: talk about the post stuff because he's one of the
Speaker 2: all time best, and I know that this was something
Speaker 2: that meant a lot to him thirty years into it.
Speaker 2: Hopefully it'll have the same success as the first one.
Speaker 5: Sean Salisburn is one of the all time best. His
Speaker 5: show's over here. You'll be back tomorrow. Cole Thompson will
Speaker 5: be with you and sleep in a little tomorrow to
Speaker 5: try to sleep. We deserve thanks for these two days. Brother,
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