WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.080 --> 00:00:07.040 I see things you laugh at an old man. 2 00:00:08.480 --> 00:00:13.960 There's them that laughs and knows better in the TV cameras. 3 00:00:14.039 --> 00:00:21.879 Yet dogs dog world and from work they're just ain't enough, Sam. 4 00:00:21.879 --> 00:00:25.800 Dogs, he's watching you, a friend, I guarantee you that 5 00:00:28.280 --> 00:00:28.920 what was that? 6 00:00:30.440 --> 00:00:32.359 Throw them into darkness for a few hours and then 7 00:00:33.439 --> 00:00:34.079 sit back. 8 00:00:33.960 --> 00:00:34.439 And watch the. 9 00:00:36.759 --> 00:00:39.640 Sass when they asked what is when? 10 00:00:39.759 --> 00:00:44.560 By that time flam anything beyond that he's the demon 11 00:00:44.679 --> 00:00:46.640 is like to confuse. 12 00:00:50.039 --> 00:00:53.320 They picked the most dangerous enemy they can find. You're 13 00:00:53.359 --> 00:00:58.119 talking psychological and it's themselves. 14 00:00:56.920 --> 00:01:03.920 Powerful that had ended, we would not be here. 15 00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:11.120 All we need to do is sit back and watch's right. 16 00:01:11.519 --> 00:01:14.959 It's a doggy dog world. From where I said there 17 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:47.920 just ain't enough damn dog world, or where I dog. 18 00:01:43.920 --> 00:01:47.239 Welcome to the Headless Giant Show. I'm going in a 19 00:01:47.280 --> 00:01:50.680 little bit of a different direction tonight. I've got my 20 00:01:51.040 --> 00:01:54.400 co host Nick from the Occult Rejects here with me, 21 00:01:54.719 --> 00:02:00.079 and I'm going to be reading your occult emails. So 22 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:03.560 if you'd like, I have scrolling across the bottom of 23 00:02:03.599 --> 00:02:07.359 the screen there the email address you can send me 24 00:02:07.480 --> 00:02:12.960 your stories, whether it's esoteric, occult, magical, or paranormal experiences. 25 00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:17.439 I will read them on my show, so I think 26 00:02:17.479 --> 00:02:22.319 this is a good opportunity for more involvement. And this 27 00:02:22.479 --> 00:02:26.759 week I've gotten email from a guy talking about a 28 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:33.240 Bosnian situation within an Islamic ghost. So let's just go 29 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:37.439 ahead and get right into it. Let's see, here we go. 30 00:02:37.520 --> 00:02:41.319 It's this you guys going live and yeah, I accidentally 31 00:02:41.400 --> 00:02:44.520 put the wrong time out there or whatever. I'm sure 32 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:49.680 they're gonna figure it out. Okay, So it starts like this, Hello, 33 00:02:50.080 --> 00:02:52.439 sorry if this is not terribly formal. I do not 34 00:02:52.560 --> 00:02:54.840 even know where to start with this or which one 35 00:02:54.879 --> 00:02:58.039 of the stories I would would have been more interesting. 36 00:02:58.120 --> 00:03:01.120 The one with a Muslim ghost is somewhat funny and 37 00:03:01.199 --> 00:03:04.240 somewhat sad, so I'll go with that one. This happened 38 00:03:04.240 --> 00:03:06.960 to a cousin. He was with my uncle in some 39 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:10.719 dingy bar in Bosnia, and both had gotten quite drunk, 40 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:14.800 but remained reasonable enough so that they did not trust 41 00:03:14.840 --> 00:03:18.360 themselves with the car. The cousin chose to walk back home, 42 00:03:18.479 --> 00:03:21.800 while the uncle decided to stay. The house he lived 43 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:24.400 in was some three miles away, upon the slope of 44 00:03:24.439 --> 00:03:27.919 a hill, a hill known for having a graveyard a 45 00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:31.280 top of it, hidden by trees that in places grew 46 00:03:31.360 --> 00:03:34.159 so close together that their branches blotted out the sun. 47 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:37.039 They loomed over my cousin as he made his way 48 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:40.479 up the hill, and concrete gave way to simple dirt 49 00:03:40.560 --> 00:03:44.400 road with numerous holes and sharp stones scattered about, the 50 00:03:44.439 --> 00:03:47.759 flashlight of his phone helping him see the way ahead. 51 00:03:48.080 --> 00:03:51.080 All was quiet, save for the distant croaking of frogs, 52 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:54.639 but eventually even they went quiet. My cousin stopped as 53 00:03:54.639 --> 00:03:59.080 he heard singing, distant but growing louder Arabic, and he 54 00:03:59.159 --> 00:04:02.159 saw a man on the road wearing pure white robe 55 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:06.000 and a headscarf, prayer beads in one hand. He sang 56 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:08.520 as he walked, but his footsteps could not be heard, 57 00:04:08.800 --> 00:04:11.840 and his face was not there, just a patch of 58 00:04:11.960 --> 00:04:15.879 smooth skin. My cousin did not run. He wasn't really 59 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:19.480 even terrified in that moment. He just stood there, entranced, 60 00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:23.000 watching as it got closer and closer, walked up to 61 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:26.759 him and passed him, never acknowledging his presence in any way, 62 00:04:27.199 --> 00:04:29.839 and once it walked past him, it was gone. In 63 00:04:29.920 --> 00:04:33.160 that moment, it was if a hypnotist snapped his fingers 64 00:04:33.160 --> 00:04:35.839 and my cousin woke up from a trance and realized 65 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:39.079 what it was he just saw. However drunk he might 66 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:42.040 have been before that, he was very sober now, and 67 00:04:42.079 --> 00:04:44.519 he decided the sensible thing to do was to get 68 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:47.639 the fuck away from there, so he ran the rest 69 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:51.000 of the way home. A Muslim ghost crazy, but I 70 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:53.160 believe it to be true. I wouldn't take it as 71 00:04:53.240 --> 00:04:56.240 proof that Islam is the one true faith. I suppose 72 00:04:56.319 --> 00:04:59.600 we all leave some kind of residue or an echo 73 00:04:59.639 --> 00:05:02.680 of our on this earth when we pass away, some 74 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:05.680 stronger than others. I did try to dig deeper into 75 00:05:05.720 --> 00:05:08.600 the mystery of this particular ghost, But the truth is 76 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:12.720 that Bosnia is a land soaked in blood and Gothic castles, 77 00:05:13.439 --> 00:05:16.399 and you have to stand in for Transylvania along the 78 00:05:16.439 --> 00:05:19.839 dirt road where my cousin saw the ghost, where there 79 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:23.360 stands now a row of a dozen ruined houses, gutted 80 00:05:23.360 --> 00:05:28.319 by flames. By the surrounding vegetation refuses to enter, remnants 81 00:05:28.399 --> 00:05:31.120 not just of the previous war, but also of World 82 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:36.319 War two, possibly even older, if some inhabitants are to 83 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:40.079 be believed. I once asked an old guy passing by 84 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:44.360 who it was that set the fire to all those houses. 85 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:49.480 Whoever could sun? He told me, I'm not sure what 86 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:52.160 that means, whoever could son? 87 00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:55.439 Oh yeah, yeah, that's probably yeah. 88 00:05:55.519 --> 00:05:57.480 So what's your what's your take on that? 89 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:02.120 Well, you know, I'm wondering, I mean, I don't know 90 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:05.800 if I would have gotten that. What I'm getting at is, 91 00:06:05.839 --> 00:06:09.639 like I'm wondering what made him think it was a Muslim? 92 00:06:09.839 --> 00:06:11.240 Like that image that he had. 93 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:15.120 Uh, that is interesting that it was somebody with like 94 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:17.199 the scarfro on top of their head in the white robe. 95 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:20.040 I mean, I have heard I have seen some occult 96 00:06:20.879 --> 00:06:23.800 Muslims where that thing. But I mean, you know, it's 97 00:06:23.839 --> 00:06:26.639 just interesting that he saw that image, you know, because 98 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:27.879 I have seen that done before. 99 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:29.160 Right. 100 00:06:29.399 --> 00:06:30.959 Well, you know, I don't know if that would be 101 00:06:30.959 --> 00:06:34.360 a typical if I would just assume the person's Muslim 102 00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:36.839 if I saw them, you know whatever. 103 00:06:37.959 --> 00:06:43.199 In the Islamic religion, they don't believe that you come 104 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:45.800 back as a ghost or that there's some sort of residue. 105 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:49.879 What they believe is that a gin and the gin 106 00:06:50.199 --> 00:06:53.600 are the ones that you see as ghosts, and they 107 00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:59.040 have kind of an appearance that they mimic human beings 108 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:00.319 in their appearance. 109 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:03.319 Not fully that's what a smooth face. 110 00:07:04.439 --> 00:07:08.560 Smooth face and the fire right, because Jin are fire spirits. 111 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:11.680 So you've got the burnt out houses on one hand, 112 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:15.120 and you've got this guy speaking or singing in is 113 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:20.680 Muslim or in Arabic walking down the road, starting to 114 00:07:20.680 --> 00:07:22.879 add up to a little bit of a Gin situation 115 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:27.040 because he's got that smooth face and also that hypnosis aspect. 116 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:29.519 Jin are supposed to be able to get inside your 117 00:07:29.519 --> 00:07:32.600 head and even change time around. So it was, you know, 118 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:35.120 at first, I was like it could be a ghost, 119 00:07:35.240 --> 00:07:37.680 but you know, all of the things adding up, it 120 00:07:37.800 --> 00:07:40.600 looks a little bit like a Gin situation. And he's 121 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:44.759 right about Bosnia. Bosnia used to be part of Yugoslavia, 122 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:49.600 and Yugoslavia was a mix of Islam, Christian, Catholic and 123 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:54.879 all these other forces that basically came together and made 124 00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:57.759 an agreement with the Soviet Union so they wouldn't get invaded, 125 00:07:57.800 --> 00:08:00.000 and so they kind of had this sort of uncomfored 126 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:04.759 truth and it actually worked. So the dictator of Yugoslavia 127 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:07.560 was pretty much loved by everybody because he was able 128 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:12.040 to pound out this truce and keep everybody happy because 129 00:08:12.079 --> 00:08:14.959 they all knew what they were up again. So Yugoslavia 130 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:19.600 was between the West and Russia and they just said, look, 131 00:08:19.680 --> 00:08:21.639 we're going to go this way and you guys just 132 00:08:21.759 --> 00:08:25.560 leave us the fuck alone. And it worked. So they 133 00:08:25.600 --> 00:08:29.759 had this sort of truce period and then, as everybody knows, 134 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:33.519 in the late nineties you had the Bosnia Hertz Govigna 135 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:39.440 war and that was a big problem. So it's basically 136 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:42.320 been the West that has been sort of ginning up 137 00:08:42.320 --> 00:08:45.480 these conflicts ever since. Not to make a pun there, 138 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:49.759 So yeah, I think this could have been related to 139 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:55.000 the Gin because they do speak Arabic. That's a very 140 00:08:55.039 --> 00:08:57.919 prominent feature when it comes to stories of the Gin. 141 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:02.200 And this smooth faced Gin was probably associated with some 142 00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:06.720 of these fires, Like he asked, are there any fires? 143 00:09:06.879 --> 00:09:09.000 Who could have set these fires? And it seems like 144 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:12.480 there's kind of a mystery involved there. But if that's 145 00:09:12.519 --> 00:09:15.559 the case, that's that could be the residual energy or 146 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:18.080 maybe this Gin has claimed this area for itself. But 147 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:20.600 they say the Gin are a cool fire, like it's 148 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:23.279 not hot to the touch. It's actually actually a colder 149 00:09:23.360 --> 00:09:27.440 thing to the touch. And the way he described this thing, 150 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:31.240 it seemed pretty cold and distant, so kind of had 151 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:35.639 that maybe emotional coldness. So what do you think does 152 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:36.720 that start to make sense? 153 00:09:37.399 --> 00:09:39.440 Well, yeah, louis the one thing I think I want 154 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:40.960 to get out what I was trying to get at before, 155 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:44.279 is that like, does to me just automatically put like a. 156 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:45.039 Sufi in my head? 157 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:49.000 It seems very specific and it's just like, is that 158 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:52.960 something that this guy even knew of to where it 159 00:09:53.000 --> 00:09:55.879 was his imagination running with it? You know, I'm getting 160 00:09:55.919 --> 00:09:58.320 maybe you know, what I'm getting at is like maybe 161 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:00.200 it did look like that, you. 162 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:01.759 Know, because that just did that to me was a 163 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:05.759 very specific look. And even then you. 164 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:08.519 Know for me anybody that I uh, yeah, I said 165 00:10:08.519 --> 00:10:10.480 that before because somebody said the person couldn't have been 166 00:10:10.480 --> 00:10:12.440 a Muslim if they were drinking, And I'm like, yeah, 167 00:10:12.440 --> 00:10:15.039 and Christians don't fuck before marriage too, Like are we 168 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:17.200 being serious here for real? 169 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:18.679 Right? Yeah? 170 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:22.279 And nobody curses either, who's real religious? Yeah? Come on? 171 00:10:23.639 --> 00:10:25.840 But but what I was saying is that one thing 172 00:10:25.879 --> 00:10:27.600 I find interesting with it is that, you know, going 173 00:10:27.639 --> 00:10:31.120 back into the gin, anybody that I ever came across 174 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:33.679 that was kind of like, again, this just comes across 175 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:35.840 from me doing research any Sufi's I came across there 176 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:39.080 happened to be mystics or they were occultist. So I 177 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:43.879 just found it interesting that like Sufi looking to me Muslim, 178 00:10:44.639 --> 00:10:46.879 you know, walking down the street, and him having this 179 00:10:47.240 --> 00:10:49.759 experience and you're going on about the gin and the 180 00:10:49.759 --> 00:10:53.080 soft face. That's very just very weird to me. 181 00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:56.799 You know, well, from what I know of Sufism, it's 182 00:10:56.840 --> 00:10:59.080 a little bit further north. It's more of like a 183 00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:02.120 Turkish thing. And the way he was describing this guy, 184 00:11:02.159 --> 00:11:06.080 it seemed like an Arabic you know style guy with 185 00:11:06.120 --> 00:11:12.039 the scarf and everything. The Turkish is Muslims look a 186 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:16.120 little bit different than the Arabian, so. 187 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:17.639 Yeah, but they do like to kind of have like 188 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:18.919 a wrap thing around their head. 189 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:22.039 Too, right, right, and so it sort of seemed like 190 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:24.879 more Saudi Arabian to me. But yeah, there is this 191 00:11:25.000 --> 00:11:28.720 ongoing conflict in Bosnia between the Christians and the Muslims, 192 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:32.440 so don't I don't necessarily know whether or not this 193 00:11:32.639 --> 00:11:36.480 was a Muslim area or a Christian area, but you know, 194 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:40.159 Christian strength, so it could be that as well. I 195 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:43.399 think in a lot of conflict zones, you were going 196 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:45.919 to run across a lot more of these spirits because 197 00:11:46.519 --> 00:11:48.600 I think we're going to do a future episode on 198 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:55.759 demons on this and yeah, demons really do gravitate towards 199 00:11:55.840 --> 00:11:59.480 conflict zones. And you'll find a lot of experiences of 200 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:03.559 US soldiers where they see unexplainable shit while they're out 201 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:07.440 on the battlefield because it's it's basically a harvest fest, 202 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:09.879 you know. I mean, a lot of people don't think 203 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:13.759 that wars are related to ritualistic human sacrifice, but they 204 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:19.159 absolutely are. Oh what's interesting too about the Bosnian conflict. 205 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:22.919 America came down on the side of the Muslims in 206 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:28.120 that conflict against the Christians. So in that war that 207 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:32.440 you know, Bill Clinton got us involved in, we were 208 00:12:32.480 --> 00:12:35.080 basically fighting on the side of the forces that would 209 00:12:35.159 --> 00:12:40.080 later turn into Muslim extremists all over the place. So 210 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:44.080 it's kind of like we turned that place into a 211 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:48.120 terrorist training ground. And so you know, this was setting 212 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:50.440 the stage for what would later come on in you know, 213 00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:53.159 two thousand and one and later on. But you know, 214 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:57.360 don't expect a lot of Americans to see that, because 215 00:12:57.399 --> 00:12:59.799 you know, America could never be fighting against people just 216 00:12:59.840 --> 00:13:03.360 like them, you know, strange that we would think that. 217 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:06.480 They have been. They have been in a lot of conflicts. 218 00:13:08.240 --> 00:13:09.519 Faced Gin is a good rap name. 219 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:13.519 Yeah, you saw that, right, Yeah, But like if you 220 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:15.080 want to talk about that, I mean there, I mean, 221 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:18.240 I guess, you know, possibly, I guess. I wouldn't say 222 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:19.879 every place, but I mean I'm sure a lot of 223 00:13:19.919 --> 00:13:22.879 places do have There's just been you know, wars there anyway, 224 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:26.399 But I would say Bosnia it does have a does 225 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:29.039 have enough that looks like it could even be to 226 00:13:29.039 --> 00:13:32.080 to I wouldn't say religious, but beliefs. 227 00:13:32.559 --> 00:13:32.759 You know. 228 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:36.919 Well, Bosni is really old world, you know, back when 229 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:39.720 it was in the Age of Days, this would be 230 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:47.440 sort of considered the the Greco sort of Russian corridor, 231 00:13:47.879 --> 00:13:50.159 you know. So you've got Bosnia as part of this 232 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:53.440 Balkans region. I mean, this is where we get the 233 00:13:53.519 --> 00:13:57.039 term Balkanized from is because it's so easy to turn 234 00:13:57.080 --> 00:13:59.279 these people against each other, because this is the fighting 235 00:13:59.320 --> 00:14:04.399 ground of the ages, Like everybody has fought here. You're 236 00:14:04.399 --> 00:14:09.080 talking about vlad tapiche In there. You know. This is 237 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:13.159 basically where Islam in the West really really clashed for 238 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:16.720 over a thousand years. So this is a very very 239 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:21.000 hot area in terms of international conflicts and people getting 240 00:14:21.039 --> 00:14:24.480 in there. To Balkanize them, and recently you've got America 241 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:29.440 doing what you would call color revolutions, where they would 242 00:14:29.480 --> 00:14:31.360 go in there and fund one side so that they 243 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:35.759 could overthrow the other. Balkanization and color revolutions go hand 244 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:39.919 in hand basically, all along the Bosphorus up to the 245 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:45.279 Black Sea from around Turkey, you've got this what they 246 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:49.399 call the Balto Slavic, well, what I call the Baltoslavic Corridor, 247 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:54.480 very heavily influenced by the Greeks. This is why Russian 248 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:59.639 Christianity is Greek Orthodox because as you can see with 249 00:14:59.679 --> 00:15:02.159 the r language, a lot of it, a lot of 250 00:15:02.159 --> 00:15:06.720 those characters come from the Greek And if you know 251 00:15:06.799 --> 00:15:11.919 about the myth of Jason and the Argonauts, they actually 252 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:16.720 went up the up the river there into the Black 253 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:19.600 Sea and on the forest backside of the Black Sea 254 00:15:19.759 --> 00:15:23.840 is where they got the Golden Fleece from. So that 255 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:27.759 entire area has been kind of this Balto Slavic Corridor 256 00:15:27.919 --> 00:15:31.080 for you know, thousands and thousands of years, and that's 257 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:33.480 where you get all this Greek influence up by the 258 00:15:33.480 --> 00:15:36.679 Black Sea. Before that, it was the Scythians. So the 259 00:15:36.720 --> 00:15:40.879 Scythians really ruled all of the plain areas and the 260 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:46.879 highland areas of that region, and that's where the Greeks 261 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:50.840 came from. There was different tribes of the Scythians that 262 00:15:51.120 --> 00:15:55.960 came in as the Palascians into that region of Greece, 263 00:15:56.399 --> 00:16:00.080 and then the Palascians then became the people that you 264 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:05.320 see in the Iliad right fighting against Turkey, right, because 265 00:16:05.360 --> 00:16:08.720 that's where you know they they had their big battle 266 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:12.559 with the Trojan horse. The Troy was on Turkey. So 267 00:16:13.240 --> 00:16:17.360 you have this original conflict between East and West happening 268 00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:20.799 right there, right along that Bosphorus River. So it's a 269 00:16:20.879 --> 00:16:25.320 very very big hotbed for conflict, always has been. And 270 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:27.799 if there are gin hanging out there to harvest the 271 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:32.759 souls or whatever they're doing, that would make sense. I'm 272 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:35.559 not sure if if you can go back there and 273 00:16:35.559 --> 00:16:38.120 and figure out what this gin is doing, but that 274 00:16:38.159 --> 00:16:39.320 would be interesting. 275 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:42.960 That'd be nice. 276 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:47.240 So yeah, I had a couple other people tell me 277 00:16:47.279 --> 00:16:51.919 about their stories with telepathy. I'd love to get into 278 00:16:51.960 --> 00:16:56.279 that too. I couldn't find what he was talking about specifically, 279 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:59.159 but you know, I'm sure there'll be more episodes. I 280 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:02.440 just thought of ice little short reading of these emails, 281 00:17:02.440 --> 00:17:06.400 and these experiences might help other people to you know, 282 00:17:06.519 --> 00:17:10.799 kind of share their experiences as well. Maybe they can 283 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:13.279 find some connection there if they have some sort of 284 00:17:14.279 --> 00:17:18.240 family lineage going back there and they've got family relations there, 285 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:21.079 or they're you know, reporting in from Bosnia, that'd be 286 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:24.400 cool too. I think Bosnia is a really beautiful area. 287 00:17:24.599 --> 00:17:26.759 I mean, I don't know if you've seen the pictures 288 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:31.000 of it, it's just this beautiful hilly country. And yeah, 289 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:34.240 so it hasn't been completely ruined by American foreign policy yet, 290 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:41.200 but I'm sure their vassal states to the United States 291 00:17:41.279 --> 00:17:44.680 it's going to happen. But basically, after the war, all 292 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:49.559 of the Christian Bosnians self segregated themselves away from the 293 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:52.400 Muslims and they haven't really been able to reintegrate back 294 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:57.599 under the state yet because the Muslim state is running Bosnia. 295 00:17:57.880 --> 00:18:02.279 So it makes sense. I mean, there are occultists all 296 00:18:02.319 --> 00:18:04.119 over the place, and I wouldn't be surprised if there's 297 00:18:04.119 --> 00:18:06.400 a little bit of black magic going on in that region. 298 00:18:08.359 --> 00:18:10.640 I'm sure there's black magic going on everywhere. 299 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:14.799 And Islam has a really interesting relationship with the Gin 300 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:17.640 because a lot of their magic systems go back to 301 00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:21.960 the idea of solemonic magic, and so they feel like 302 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:25.480 they can you know, control the Gin in some cases, 303 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:28.440 or in other cases they're under attack by the Gin. 304 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:31.279 But I've heard a lot of stories about it, and 305 00:18:31.839 --> 00:18:34.079 most of it has to do with the desert. And 306 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:36.720 it's really interesting that he would be wearing this desert 307 00:18:36.759 --> 00:18:39.799 garb that far away from the desert, and that's something 308 00:18:39.839 --> 00:18:43.079 that really, you know, piques my interest is because it 309 00:18:43.119 --> 00:18:45.720 seems out of place. Even the Muslims up in Bosnia, 310 00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:47.839 they don't dress like that, you know, that's that's not 311 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:55.119 very kind of Yeah, I think so the prayer beads, 312 00:18:55.480 --> 00:18:59.680 that's what I found interesting because the Gin are often 313 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:03.759 skies is like holy men, and so having that as 314 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:07.240 the as the disguise would be par for the course, 315 00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:11.599 you know. But I mean on our future episode about demons, 316 00:19:11.720 --> 00:19:15.079 there's so much variation, but I feel like there's that 317 00:19:15.079 --> 00:19:17.640 that gravity is what brings it together. So if there's 318 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:23.319 conflict zones, high population centers, maybe an area that has 319 00:19:23.319 --> 00:19:27.400 had a lot of emotional intrigue and a lot of 320 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:31.240 emotional outlet, that's those are the gravity centers that demons 321 00:19:31.240 --> 00:19:34.839 are really attracted to. Also, you know, taking advantage of 322 00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:41.000 the graveyards and torturing the souls of the things still 323 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:46.160 stuck there, and talking about the legion of demons too, because, 324 00:19:46.200 --> 00:19:49.039 as you know, from solomonic magic, they say he's in 325 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:52.480 charge of X number of legions? Is this huge number? 326 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:53.720 How do they get those numbers? 327 00:19:53.799 --> 00:19:55.880 Yeah, I've always said, I was like, Yo, where does 328 00:19:55.880 --> 00:19:59.160 this shit come from? I've even wondered as like the numbers, 329 00:19:59.200 --> 00:20:02.359 like even something like the reason for that there. 330 00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:02.920 I don't know. 331 00:20:03.640 --> 00:20:07.160 There's definitely a numerological aspect to it, you know, so 332 00:20:08.119 --> 00:20:11.759 they control a certain amount of legions because that's their number, 333 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:15.960 and then like seventeen thousand legions, well, seventeen might be 334 00:20:16.039 --> 00:20:19.559 their number. I think it has a lot to do 335 00:20:19.640 --> 00:20:22.880 with the dream world as well, because there's there's something 336 00:20:22.920 --> 00:20:24.960 that I think a lot of people miss about the 337 00:20:25.039 --> 00:20:30.200 dream world that you know, is very important to understanding demons, 338 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:33.799 very important to understanding cosmology and everything else. We spend 339 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:38.599 half our lives living in this symbolic world of the dream, right, 340 00:20:39.480 --> 00:20:42.720 and yet when we wake up, it doesn't really have 341 00:20:42.759 --> 00:20:45.480 any impact on us because we don't see how these 342 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:49.640 symbols are important. But to ancient societies, dreams were very important, 343 00:20:49.640 --> 00:20:53.440 you know, and they dictated how you were to interact 344 00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:56.000 with the land, they dictated how you were to interact 345 00:20:56.039 --> 00:20:58.640 with others, and they took these dreams seriously. And it 346 00:20:58.640 --> 00:21:02.640 seems like the less we take our dreams seriously, the 347 00:21:02.680 --> 00:21:07.880 more prone to demonic influence we are. Because there's something 348 00:21:07.880 --> 00:21:11.960 about these dreams that connect us to something greater than ourselves. 349 00:21:12.359 --> 00:21:14.960 And everything you do in a dream is symbolic, right, 350 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:18.920 So a symbol would be a thing that is not 351 00:21:19.039 --> 00:21:22.319 a thing, you know, and when you're moving around and 352 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:25.200 you're talking in your dreams and you're doing all this stuff, 353 00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:27.640 it doesn't actually have any impact on the rest of 354 00:21:27.680 --> 00:21:31.799 your life in terms of real physical behavior, So it 355 00:21:31.920 --> 00:21:35.000 is necessarily symbolic. Everything that happens in the dream is 356 00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:37.759 a symbol. This is where we get our symbols from. 357 00:21:38.880 --> 00:21:42.799 So I think having a deeper connection to dreams gives 358 00:21:42.799 --> 00:21:46.440 you a deeper insight into this world of symbols, you know, 359 00:21:46.519 --> 00:21:49.039 and we spend half our lives in the world of symbols, 360 00:21:49.079 --> 00:21:51.440 So I think it's very important to have that connection 361 00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:56.720 to dreams. Have you had a deep connection to dreams 362 00:21:56.799 --> 00:22:00.240 or like any experiences with dreams that sort of uh 363 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:01.599 elucidate that. 364 00:22:02.440 --> 00:22:03.160 In the past. 365 00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:06.720 I mean, I've had some dreams where I actually questioned 366 00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:08.839 if it was out of body experiences to tell you 367 00:22:08.880 --> 00:22:09.319 the truth. 368 00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:12.799 And you know what. 369 00:22:12.920 --> 00:22:14.599 And the thing is too that I've noticed is that 370 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:18.279 when that when those have happened, especially as a child, 371 00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:20.799 they you know, happened a few times, it's always when 372 00:22:20.799 --> 00:22:26.359 I was sick, really sick. I would have these dreams 373 00:22:26.359 --> 00:22:28.319 that seemed like to the where to the point to 374 00:22:28.359 --> 00:22:30.519 where it's like you'd almost feel the atmosphere around you, 375 00:22:31.759 --> 00:22:33.319 like it actually felt like there was depth. 376 00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:35.079 It was very weird. 377 00:22:35.319 --> 00:22:39.759 One time, the last time it happened, probably got two 378 00:22:39.799 --> 00:22:42.440 thousand and maybe fourteen and fifteen. I was in fucking 379 00:22:42.440 --> 00:22:45.640 prison actually when it happened. So the reason I remember 380 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:48.920 around the time it happened, I was sick and uh 381 00:22:49.839 --> 00:22:52.200 fucked up situation. I you know, in the Feds, in 382 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:55.279 the federal prison, you can have emails, and you know, 383 00:22:55.359 --> 00:22:57.720 there was a a few like well, I wouldn't say famous, 384 00:22:57.759 --> 00:22:59.599 but I mean the guy from Blow, the movie Blow 385 00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:02.160 with the Cookee he was there. There was some guy 386 00:23:02.160 --> 00:23:04.880 from Nobody, nobody big, but some picture from the fucking 387 00:23:04.920 --> 00:23:07.000 Yankees or some dude from the Yankees was there a 388 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:09.680 couple of people and I emailed my brother and told them, 389 00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:13.640 and I was in some fucking program, some drug program. 390 00:23:13.680 --> 00:23:15.599 Somehow my lawyer pulled it off even though I was 391 00:23:15.640 --> 00:23:18.640 selling steroids. I got a drug program that was gonna 392 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:20.720 knock off a fuck ton of time for me and 393 00:23:20.839 --> 00:23:25.039 halfway house time. So they're they're very strict. It's almost 394 00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:29.480 like a totally totally different fucking world considering the rest 395 00:23:29.519 --> 00:23:32.440 of the prison. Inside there, you're expected to snitch on 396 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:34.519 each other, so it makes no fucking sense to me. 397 00:23:34.920 --> 00:23:38.720 It's like it's called our dap and you know they'll 398 00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:41.200 read your emails and just to be dicks. They said 399 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:44.640 I violated like fucking prison security with saying who was 400 00:23:44.680 --> 00:23:46.799 in the fucking prison in my emails to my brother, 401 00:23:46.880 --> 00:23:49.480