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Speaker 1: Get up the bags.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the bags.

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Speaker 1: Times, get up the fish. Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and

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welcome back to the five hundred and sixty third episode

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of The Keepers podcast. I'm the Man Without Fear Tres

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Now I'm joined by.

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Speaker 3: I'm Save Us and or Trickle that Sorry.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm doing.

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Speaker 4: I'm the end of doors Taylor Field.

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Speaker 1: Something about that just doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Who's mine or his?

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Speaker 1: You reacted to mine his? Say this and or I

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got it because yeah, that makes sense Taylor's And you know,

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Taylor had a great one last for the Captain America

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of you and he he peaked there. You know, I

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think you're peaking day.

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Speaker 5: I was ready to peak.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, Kirk, may I cut you off the theme song.

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Do you need to talk about your thumb? No?

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Speaker 3: No, We're good.

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Speaker 6: Had a little booboo at work and if anyone asked,

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I reported it like you should.

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Speaker 1: Say. He didn't want to talk about but then he

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talked about it.

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Speaker 2: So you know you're the one that circled back, circle back.

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Speaker 1: Just want you every moment I saw the music playing

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and I saw you talking in your mic, so I thought,

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oh man, he really wanted to share this.

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Speaker 2: Wait that mutes that mutes me the whole time. I'm

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just chatting away.

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Speaker 1: It's like, because obviously tonight we're recording it after this,

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but it won't be live. Patrons, you'll get it right away.

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But then the regular people that we still love and support.

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But the patrons, you know, patrons go above and beyond.

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They give us a harder money to support the show,

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get more content, everything like that. So very much appreciate it.

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But I was having to dig because I haven't done

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it for the marble side. But Golden Geeks says, Okay,

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this year, I want to get every winner we've had,

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and I did so. I had to go through a

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lot of YouTube casts because the audio is like gone.

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Speaker 5: There's got to be an AI that can do that

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for you, I think, right, Taylor.

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Speaker 4: Oh there is, yeah, But do I want to pay

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for it?

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Speaker 1: Do I want to do that though? Do I want

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to give into the machine? Not yet?

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm gonna save yourself three hours.

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Speaker 6: You're already using a water pick, so that's like basically

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the machine.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to pick the AI of toothbrushes absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Well natural, just some you know, some twine.

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Speaker 5: Do you.

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Speaker 1: Mister Bedey fuck off? He has a machine over here.

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That's AI.

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Speaker 5: But I only cook things with a magnifying glass in

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the sun. I don't. I don't use a stove. That's

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that's too much.

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Speaker 1: I say, you watched the Vivor, you have enough of

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the fire making skills.

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Speaker 5: To I think watching people make fire on TV is

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different from making it in real life. Do anything I.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I could do you have to teach me.

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Speaker 3: It's easy.

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Speaker 1: We will hold camp. But anyway, so I was going

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through lots of videos and always the beginning of each

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cast there's like four to five minutes of downtime because

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I don't know if you guys remember the camera used

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to be my phone and we put it like we

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had the laptop. It was Dylan's in the this is

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a customer Actually, even as basements, it was always like

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we're sitting in a semi circle, a half circle, so

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the camera can see us in the laptops by me,

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like a like a cord to get to. But there's

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always like I had hit it, go sit there, make

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sure we were alive because I was back. I can't

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some people's nightmare. It all depends the GV listener. I

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feel like there's like a pre end game and post endgame.

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ramble and everything like that. Post it's like, not get

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to keep first. But uh yeah, Golden Geek will be

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live in a couple of days. But it was fun

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to look back. I missed those days. Obviously, it's great.

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episodes we do if we're in person, because it just

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wouldn't be relatable. But it was just great seeing that

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room and like, you know, sometimes still those days be

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haden Dylan's custard ome bedroom, but it was. Yeah, those

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summer casts were a little stinky, but it it was

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a good time. It was just definitely a different vibe.

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a jerk. But I'm like, why am I so loud

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Speaker 5: I know, I'm still like we could never get it

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quite right, could we with the Eddie?

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here now doing this podcasting. It's great. Let's we haven't

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done this in a few weeks. So Delmus, what have

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dared Eel predictions, big DCU news, so a big overall thing.

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Speaker 5: Well? You know, we got a juice filled episode here tonight,

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so I think I'll be quick with two TV shows

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that I've been watching, just the latest and greatest shows

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I'm up to date on Severance season two and White

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other people think of Severance that people I've talked to

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of it, and yeah, so I'm a little disapointed with that.

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my favorite show on TV right now. And I think

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about that. It's very much the same. This one feels

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just love the characters, the writing, the funny shit that happens,

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the good visuals, the music. I've been adding to so

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many songs like my Spotify playlist, just some banging music

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so far, I think character wise, I mean, there's a

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lot of great ones in there, but Walton Goggins's He's

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because I don't think any of you guys have been

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watching the show, which is ridiculous.

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we just didn't continue on. I feel like it was

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just watching something else that we didn't want to connect

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Speaker 5: But we got to six episodes per season, so easy.

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Speaker 6: That's very palatable, especially coming a highly hour long thirteen episodes.

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Speaker 1: Forgot it was thirteen as I'm watching through it. It's

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because right now we have Crave canceled. But then when

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full of you very fun cast. Think though, think those

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people for joining me. It's always a good time.

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Speaker 5: So I was talking to my aunt over the weekend.

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She was just shitting all over a Nora and then

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praising the Bob Bylan movie. I'm like, come on, the

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bob Bila made, it's so safe. I haven't seen it.

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I'm sure it's great, but like, come on, She's like,

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heard one complain about Anora is that like you can

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tell its directed by a dude. I still think it's

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great movies, but I could I could understand certain point

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of views, especially like Mikey like, and she was fine

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of it. She said she didn't want to know what

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she didn't want any of that. But there's lots of

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her scenes looking great, lots of sex scenes. But I

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could see maybe as a I'm watching with Emily this week.

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poor things and she hated it. But I'm like, you

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so you know. But did she give a reason?

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the landing, but there's been some some weird stuff going

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on in here, and every episode, like the last week's cliffhanger, Okay,

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what happens there. But yeah, we'll see. There's a lot

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of that in this show. Every episode always leaves your

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Speaker 1: Big edge or and then the only show I'm watching

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right now because I canceled Paramount Plus because his Dexter's done,

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Speaker 5: Out you canceling like a madman over here.

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I'm feeling like, oh, streaming is just as bad as

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a cable No, it's not not at all if you

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manage it, If you just described everything and keep it

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then sure, but like one, I'm paying for things I

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want and too Yeah, I got rid of cravelast month,

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Disney Plus and Prawn. That's all right now, and that's like,

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it's nice. So we're finishing the Agency I think I

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talked about last year. But Agency is it's a Michael

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Fassbender shows playing a CIA agent, a CIA agent. I

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could just combine those two words. I've always wanted him

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to play Bond. It's not as sexy as that. It's

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way more like realistic, like counter terrorism, like sneaking around

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different personalities. But Jeffrey Wrights in it, Jody Turner Smith's

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and it's really good. It's picking up. It's one of

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these shows where there's like six to seven different storylines

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going on and you don't know how they're gonna interlinked,

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but slowly but surely, you're like, Okay, I see this piece.

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it is quite slow. So me and Emily usually watch

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about two episodes, but we got till March second. I

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think we're gonna finish about five. But it's really really

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good that we're actually getting some like a minor action

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but fastbender in a show. I'm on there and it's

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it's actually great And it got renewed in December first

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season too, So that's a good thing that like gave

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me the oom of like, Okay, it's coming. I'm really

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enjoying it, so I'm excited to see where it goes.

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So yeah, I'm just watching TV right now. I don't

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really have any movies on the dock, and I do

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want to watch a completely unknown but it's all about Daredough.

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I got to finish that before Tuesday. I was gonna

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try and get Punishers done, but we'll talk about Punisha

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l there. I think I got another chance to do that,

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So Taylor, what about you? Oh Man?

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Speaker 7: So Madison tossed on No Hard Feelings the day That

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was fun to rewatch. I don't think i've seen that

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since had we have been the drive in Actually what

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is this movie again?

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Speaker 5: Lawrence make It on the Beach?

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Speaker 1: Great and suplex movie.

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Speaker 7: I forgot how how funny it really is with just

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certain comedic beats.

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Speaker 4: It's actually is It's a really good time. Uh say, we.

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Speaker 1: Watched the Peak nominated performance by Jennifer Lawrence right there, so.

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Speaker 4: Hell yeah uh so yeah.

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Speaker 7: After that, what else did we do? We watched tmn T.

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Madison just had a craven to watch the original Turtles

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all the Turtle stuff going on lately, so pop that

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on and that was a great time just quoting the

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heck out of that movie. It was just fantastic. I

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like to do this thing, and I think Madison gets

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pissed off because I do it with Star Wars, Jurassic

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Park and with TMNT now as well. I'll quote a

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line but like three to five seconds before they say

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it in the movie.

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Speaker 5: It's just that sounds very annoying.

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 7: I'm sure she finds it. I've never asked her. I

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should probably ask her eventually, but I love.

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Speaker 1: Doing it before she divorces you over it.

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Speaker 7: Well, when the character says the line AD's word for word,

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I just feel empowered, like fuck yeah. But when they

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mess up when they say the line and I mess

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up by like a word and like.

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Speaker 4: Oh god you feel.

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Speaker 1: But the night before is just even better now that

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I know who that is that limo Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Uh that aside. Show wise, we just usually with one

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more having dinner.

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Speaker 7: We'll just throw on an episode of Hell's Kitchen watch that,

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and just it still blows my mind that these high

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quality chefs, like and they're talking about the start of

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the competition when there's questionable chefs at that point, but

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like near the back half, towards the end, when there's

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like only like maybe like ten eight chefs left between

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both teams, and it's like.

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Speaker 4: Okay, they're still starting up like raw meat.

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Speaker 7: And it's like, man, I don't I don't work on

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that industry, so I can't speak to it, but I

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just feel like, how does that really happen?

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Speaker 4: How do they play like a raw beef? Wellington on

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there a raw steak.

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Speaker 1: Don't like, don't some people want raw like order certain mules.

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Speaker 4: That's true.

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Speaker 7: But when Ramsey, when Ramsey, when Ramsey says it's it's

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raw and sends it back and like.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's not that's not good. And maybe it's because

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they're they're fucking cooking on that guy.

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Speaker 5: That'd be stressful and maybe they have five minutes to

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make a dish.

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Speaker 4: That's true.

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Speaker 1: Gordon Ramsey staring at you like kingpinned like you offended

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Vanessa or something like that in front of you watch.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I I mean coming off hot a Daredevil,

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that was kind of the main thing on my plate

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as of lads go check.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 6: But what I've been watching lately, I haven't watched an

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anime in a very long time. That was just like

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a chapter of my life when I was like watching

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a lot of anime and I took a hiatus and then.

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Speaker 2: A couple of shows would like grip me in, and

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Speaker 3: Just haven't been uh lately.

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Speaker 6: You know, We're just we're just busy watching other stuff,

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I guess, and sometimes late at nighters want to throw

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in the office or a show that I've seen a

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thousand times, I can just wind down. Oh yeah, it's

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just always a rotation show. But anyways, uh, Shay put

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this anime on my radar.

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Speaker 2: She had binged it the whole. I don't even know

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how long. I think it was over Christmas or something.

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Speaker 6: She's just like powered through it a couple of days

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off for work and then yeah, she just just did

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it in like two sittings. And it is a Netflix

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anime called Delicious in the Dungeon.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys have watched an episode

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you've just seen it.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think I've seen it, like scroll, yeah, yeah, it.

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Speaker 6: She claims that it's like her favorite anime of all time,

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and I saw it. I'm like, okay, okay, that's a

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wild cla. She's seen some big time animes too, so

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I'm like, really like, come on, how can you say that?

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And now that I've been watching it, like I'm about

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halfway through, I think it's twenty four episodes.

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Speaker 3: We're on episode thirteen.

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Speaker 6: She's watching with me for a nice we'll rewatch because

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she loves it so much. But now that I'm watching it,

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I totally get why she thinks that, because it's just

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such a masterfully written show of like it balances great

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adventuring great character like depth, like I feel like every

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character has some like just phenomenal backstories and just character building.

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The show starts like very just I don't want to

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say slice of Life because it is based in fantasy land,

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but it's just like it's just kind of a nothing

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show where they're just like killing monsters and then cooking

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them up, and then it's just like a big emphasis

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on like the cooking portion.

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Speaker 2: I tell you mentioned Gordon Ramsey, but like.

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Speaker 6: This is like this one dwarf is just like a

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master chef, Like he just makes these like whatever month

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like name a monster like an orc or something, and

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he just like cooks it up and it looks like

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a five star meal that you just want to eat.

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food and stuff. Studio Ghibli is just so famous for

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that for making like meals just look so delicious even

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though it's it's it's an anime. But anyways, the show

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like takes a pretty dark I'm not gonna say it turned,

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but it just gets like a lot more mature at

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a certain point of the show, which is kind of

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where I'm at right now, which I was not expecting

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at all, just because every episode is like it's very

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d and d as well, which I think is another

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reason why I'm loving it so much. It's really making

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me want to jump back into Balder's Gate. Actually just

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just like the idea of a party adventuring through these

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dungeons and just interacting with other monsters and other like

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party member just other players. But anyways, its yeah, it

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starts really just simple of an idea, but then later

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on it's like really high stake stuff is going on.

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It's like gut wrenching with certain characters that are lost,

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and it's just, yeah, it's a really really phenomenal show

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and it's really just like been scratching that anime. It's

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that I didn't really think that I had still because

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I just haven't been watching it. But watching it again,

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I'm like, man, I gotta watch more anime. This stuff's

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so good. There's many on my radar or not my radar, sorry,

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that on my list that I had been watching as

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like a big fan, like some big ones like Attack

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on Titan. I never even finished that, just because I

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had watched it up until the point that it was

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on the last season, and then they did like the

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Invincible thing where it was like a season break, a

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mid season break.

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Speaker 2: Which I just I hate when shows do that.

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Speaker 6: I get it when it's like a really big show

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and they're just trying to milk that money, you know, for.

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Speaker 2: To build up that money and everything, but it just

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kills the.

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Speaker 6: Hype I feel like the momentum of getting through a show.

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So still don't finished that one. My Hero Academia is

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another one that's like really massive that I loved and

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I just I'm so far behind on that even like.

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Speaker 2: Dragon Ball Super that completely over.

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Speaker 6: There's just a lot of anime out there to watch,

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and some really really phenomenal ones. And I'm really glad

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that I finally jumped into Delicious in the Dungeon and

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I highly highly recommend it even to like non anime fans.

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It's just a nice, wholesome show. Again, I just mention

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how it gets pretty dark later on, but still for

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the most part, it's really easy fun watch and really

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great characters, great intro.

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Speaker 2: Go watch that show.

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Speaker 5: There you go awesome. We'll check out more of that

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when I get in Netflix again.

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Speaker 1: Good to see uh God Loves Me sixty nine. In

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a chat, the menu was a warning, goodnessee you, sir.

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He stole me for last GV day for he said

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he'd make it up to me. Still hasn't yet, you know.

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But alas, here we go, speaking of making it up.

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Before we get into this, I wanted to bring this

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up for the next newscast. We're all together. So a

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few weeks ago, very controversial thing happened. I'm gonna blame

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my tired brain. I'm gonna see what happens here. But

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Mike super Mike nice enough to throw us, throw myself

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a life one and say, hey, something's a little fishy.

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We did the Marvel No, sorry, we did the movie

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twenty twenty five. People don't know. It works like a

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fantasy system where we all draft ten movies and then

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we see the box office and then at the end

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of the year we do it tally and whoever as

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the most wins said year. Right. So I drafted Mwana

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Live Action as my first movie, which Mike did tell

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me that very bold to draft a twenty twenty six

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movie for the twenty twenty five draft. So what I

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am saying here and I am again is live recorded

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so that people know I would like to draft another movie. Obviously,

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my preference or my case is there's multiple times where

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I have saved each and every one of you by

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saying that's going to Netflix, U, Kirkland, Rememory, draft whatever, whatever.

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You One time, I know you tried to draft a

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Netflix movie, Taylor, And then I'm pretty sure the year

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before Dylan you drafted, tried to draft a movie that

473
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was like dead it was. It was Mickey seventeen. The

474
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year before one year you try to draft said no,

475
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don't do that. It's already been pushed, so I write

476
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it anyway. You did do it anyway. Actually, but there

477
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is a record for because I said, there's rumors it's

478
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not making this year, and I'll take it anyway. So again,

479
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I'm not saying we're redrafting. I'm not saying, oh, I

480
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,079
get one of your top picks. I'm clearly getting a

481
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bottom one. But I would in the in the game

482
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of sportsmanship, like to draft dead my WANTA draft and

483
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then put something else. Is my number one draft pick

484
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up there?

485
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Speaker 5: I mean, if one of my things get delayed, do

486
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I get to do a new pick?

487
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Speaker 1: But you picked it knowing it was that year. I

488
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just made a fluff up, you know, I thought it

489
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was this year. Of course, if I knew it was

490
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twenty twenty six, I would not draft set movie.

491
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Speaker 5: You know, this just doesn't nothing. There's no trade going

492
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on here. I just lose and you win.

493
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Speaker 1: What do you lose?

494
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Speaker 5: I lose that you get a new pick, and that's

495
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not looking good for my draft.

496
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Speaker 3: That is true.

497
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Speaker 7: But in his defense, I do think like, if if

498
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we're to win, any of us three are to win,

499
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I mean, it's only a partial win. It's not a

500
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full as he's not like, it's not a full circle

501
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,680
complete win. We already are just taking advantage of kicking

502
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,519
them while he's down. I don't know if I if

503
00:22:07,559 --> 00:22:09,200
I get that win, I want that third win.

504
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Speaker 4: I want it to be you know, everyone out their

505
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full strength all year, and I.

506
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Speaker 5: Don't want a sand bag it.

507
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Speaker 2: Okay, if I get that win, I'm gonna memory, memory,

508
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bring back.

509
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Speaker 1: I won't forget you, buddy.

510
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Speaker 3: Why that's your one, that's my one. I'll take it.

511
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Speaker 1: That.

512
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Speaker 4: The pause just totally.

513
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Speaker 3: We got to edit these videos. They're too long. They're

514
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,519
too long of a break. Don't even mention the I'm

515
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going to kill you. I'll give you this past, Travis,

516
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because you did save me in the recent draft.

517
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Speaker 5: All right, what's your pick? What's your pick?

518
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick the black Phone too comes out October

519
00:22:49,519 --> 00:22:54,440
Halloween movie between that and the Accountants, it's not I

520
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,519
look if I because still made that joke, if I

521
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,400
knew the Resurrection of Christ was of this, you're about

522
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,359
one hundred percent yes, because I think that movie's gonna

523
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make bank. But like it's still very iffy. So I'm

524
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taking the black Phone to first one made like one

525
00:23:07,279 --> 00:23:09,759
hundred and sixty million. That was my thinking. So that's

526
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what I'm gonna.

527
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Speaker 3: Take in hindsight.

528
00:23:12,039 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 6: Maybe I should have pitched like a you know, first

529
00:23:14,559 --> 00:23:16,839
round draft pick next year, like sports, you know you

530
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,200
can draft you too.

531
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Speaker 3: It's too late, so I got too excited.

532
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 1: Thank you gumming. So now next year, when you beat me,

533
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,440
you can say, look, you screwed up. We gave you

534
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:27,920
a movie. You lost for it, and I will not

535
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,680
because I will fully admit that was my screw up.

536
00:23:30,839 --> 00:23:33,319
So if anyone wins, there's no asterisk win. Now, that

537
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,880
was me doing bad. Like if you're playing poker blackjack,

538
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,200
you read the cards wrong. I read them wrong big time.

539
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Speaker 2: So what pick was that for you? That was your

540
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number one?

541
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Speaker 1: My number one was Yeah, so I lost on a

542
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,200
lot of good picks. But you know what that's that's okay. Yeah,

543
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:51,799
I suppose says it's like when Tres had the rock

544
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,400
Chills video with the screen recording at ending. Yeah exactly. Yeah,

545
00:23:55,519 --> 00:23:58,480
when I first uploaded it didn't get there at streamyard

546
00:23:58,519 --> 00:24:01,359
even the same way too. It's like it just cuts

547
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,119
videos in a weird way. But yeah, Wicked for Good

548
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,920
is now my new number one pick. Mike is completely right,

549
00:24:07,039 --> 00:24:10,680
so what a full circle moment. But Mike, you will

550
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,279
be happy. And the listening, we have it wicked for

551
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Mike my name, so's it's it better take me the

552
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556
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and Butter. You'll get two Superman retros, so one will

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be for the Phase two and up one will be

558
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for the producers. I think it's Superman four and super

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Girl what you're dropping, so we're very close to the

560
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end of those dropping. All Fantastic four is up there. Yeah,

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I'm trying to think what else is coming. There'll be

562
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an after nine, lots of good stuff coming, so we

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very much appreciate support, and just in general, there's lots

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of reviews happening this month. We're gonna talk about some

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of them, so it's just good to get those ad

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573
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or the video feeds, whatever you may do. Yeah, lots

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of good stuff going on. Check out. Uh, we got

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side quest. What did you guys talk about this week,

576
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mister muss Oh.

577
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Speaker 5: We talked about some of the games being playing, such

578
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as Avowed is the new hotness there, we did another

579
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Pokemon Gentwo quiz Kirkland. I threw Taylor back in the

580
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ring there, and he did pretty good on his own.

581
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I'm not gonna lie, but you got tune in the

582
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episode to find out how well hearing me that first.

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Speaker 4: Round I was missing. Yeah, I needed that help.

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Speaker 2: There's a couple of niche ones I remember.

585
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I'll be on next week and I

586
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don't know all the topics.

587
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Speaker 5: When industry is imploding right now, so I want to

588
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talk about such.

589
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Speaker 1: A bad, bad omen but yeah, we got that Be

590
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and dolanby doing some geek this week, I got some

591
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trailers saved I got some Spider Man news, so we

592
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always there's already some news that could have put here,

593
00:26:04,839 --> 00:26:07,759
but I've overflowedd a Thursday. It's just juicing right now.

594
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And then this weekend the Gimmicks cut back. It's a

595
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mixed gag. The Gimmick is back with myself, S Bubs

596
00:26:13,799 --> 00:26:15,359
and David. Tune in that show because we got a

597
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couple announcements. Should be a fun thing. We were reviewing

598
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Elimination Chamber and actually we'll do the results of our

599
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,680
draft because our Gimmick draft is coming to an end

600
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,319
on that episode, and I need a really good show

601
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,240
on Saturday to beat S Bubs. We're like one hundred

602
00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:30,440
points difference. But in the wrestling draft, that's very close.

603
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David's he's long gone. I'm sorry, David, but I'm hoping

604
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for a hoping for a good chamber. But you know

605
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what I'm hoping for is a good Star Wars New

606
00:26:40,319 --> 00:26:44,640
Leadership happening. So we got this. Uh this came out

607
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late last night from Puck and then a bunch of

608
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other places. Puck is more like a business insider one,

609
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so that's.

610
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Speaker 2: Like a hockey podcast or something.

611
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Speaker 5: Is it an acronym or is it just called Puck.

612
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I actually don't know because they don't

613
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do scoops all the time, but when they do scoops

614
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it is more the busy oriented of Hollywood. So this

615
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,640
came out and then everybody like s tear scoopers jumped on.

616
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So clearly this had been out. And I'm not sure

617
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if like Kennedy and her team or lucasfilm, like, hey,

618
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don't say anything, like I'm wondering, because it came out

619
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of like I can't remember last night, it was like

620
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eight nine, Like it came out on the Eastern time.

621
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It would have been like eleven twelve. He was late.

622
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It's not when news is dropping. Since I feel like

623
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someone in blew the whist like okay, we're gonna push

624
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,799
this out because everyone was like, oh yeah, I've heard

625
00:27:24,839 --> 00:27:26,119
this since the end of twenty twenty four. Oh I

626
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,680
heard this in November. It's like, well, why are we

627
00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:30,160
hearing about now? But suppose we report is that Kathy

628
00:27:30,279 --> 00:27:34,079
Kennedy is stepping down at the end of twenty twenty five.

629
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Obviously she took over whenever they did to Bai, I

630
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think it's twenty thirteen, twenty twelve, and George stepped down.

631
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He recommended her, saying, hey, she had already been a

632
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co president of Lucasfilm, but said, hey, I'm selling this.

633
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,200
I want her to run everything she did. Obviously, it's

634
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,599
been a very mixed road. Lots of high highs, but

635
00:27:51,759 --> 00:27:53,759
lots and lots and lots of low low. So it's

636
00:27:53,799 --> 00:27:58,559
been all over. Obviously she's stepping down. There's no like

637
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right now as far as who's the front brother other

638
00:28:01,599 --> 00:28:03,759
than people think it's gonna be Felony. But there's a

639
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lot of people that think that Disney might not go

640
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that route. Obviously we're all obviously we're in a strange

641
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time because Bob Iger is also retiring in twenty twenty six,

642
00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:15,440
and then obviously Foggy. There's lots of rumblings. WHI, we're

643
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:20,480
gonna talk about Foggy here, But yeah, she's supposedly stepping down. Uh,

644
00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:24,240
Folony's been tossed about, fro has been tossed about. Apparently

645
00:28:24,319 --> 00:28:27,480
there is from Steer Scooper saying Foggy has expressed interests

646
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of taking over. I don't know if that would mean

647
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both or that would mean leaving the Marvel post. I

648
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,759
would imagine. But now this, uh, and it could just

649
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be somebody like an Emma Watts who's a big time

650
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producer at Warnabas for a while left and she's been

651
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doing stuff for a while, or just somebody else out

652
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there in the ether, like how you know we learned

653
00:28:42,759 --> 00:28:44,920
about Big Dan Lynn, right, we didn't know Big Dan

654
00:28:45,039 --> 00:28:47,279
Lynn and then he was gonna be the DC guy

655
00:28:47,839 --> 00:28:49,559
and then now he's not. Now he's at Netflix making

656
00:28:49,599 --> 00:28:52,559
Christopher no and Ai videos. But it's James Gunn. Maybe

657
00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:56,039
it's a partnership. I don't know. So Kirkle, throw it

658
00:28:56,039 --> 00:28:58,160
to you because I saw you smile, so you know,

659
00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:00,599
take it. What do you think about this?

660
00:29:02,799 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 6: I feel like this has been a long time coming,

661
00:29:05,319 --> 00:29:07,519
just with how spicy some of our casts have been

662
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:08,759
around the Star Wars subject.

663
00:29:08,839 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: I'm not like a.

664
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 6: Big follower on the the ins and outs of what's

665
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:17,359
going on with like the general maybe audience's opinion on

666
00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:20,240
Kathleen Kennedy. It's just based on kind of a certain

667
00:29:20,319 --> 00:29:24,200
projects and then don't come out like that's just been

668
00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:28,319
a repetitive thing. And to me, someone fucked up for

669
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,519
that to happen, And the easiest person to blame is

670
00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:31,920
the one at the top of the pyramids. So I

671
00:29:32,039 --> 00:29:34,160
definitely think that they should be taking the most of

672
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,599
the uh, the weight of that flack, if there even

673
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,400
is that. Like, I don't really know what the internal

674
00:29:40,759 --> 00:29:46,079
discourses amongst like the Lucasfilmers or anything like that, Like what, yeah,

675
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,039
just the overall vibe, like are do they think they're

676
00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:50,640
killing it? Like you know, like like for the last

677
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,039
few years been like Kathleen, you're you're so good at

678
00:29:53,079 --> 00:29:55,720
your job, We're gonna keep resigning your contract and you're

679
00:29:55,759 --> 00:29:58,839
just you're you're the be's knees lady, Like is that

680
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,359
the internal or has it been you need to perform

681
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,480
or this is you're you're out, Norman, And well even

682
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,920
to you because this is such a big position, people

683
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,599
in those positions usually don't get fired. They get they're

684
00:30:09,599 --> 00:30:12,240
stepping down, you know, that's how they yeah, exactly.

685
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,759
Speaker 1: And people don't know if that is it. People don't

686
00:30:13,759 --> 00:30:15,440
know if it's a her decision or if it's.

687
00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:20,359
Speaker 6: Like like nothing's coming out. So to me, something is

688
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,480
wrong for that to be happening, right like that. That

689
00:30:22,759 --> 00:30:25,839
that's my perspective on it. So to hear this news,

690
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,799
it's it's just like, well, yeah, that that was gonna

691
00:30:29,839 --> 00:30:32,079
happen at some point. I'm surprised maybe it took this long,

692
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,160
but the fact that we haven't had another Star Wars

693
00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:36,039
movie since.

694
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,559
Speaker 2: Was it actually the last Skywalker?

695
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 4: Wow?

696
00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:45,279
Speaker 1: Okay, right, Skywalker the last Guywalker Saga movie is what

697
00:30:45,319 --> 00:30:45,920
I mean to say.

698
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Speaker 3: So, yeah, six years.

699
00:30:47,799 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 6: So for me, it's just kind of been like a

700
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,480
long leak. Now the tires finally flat, like and she's

701
00:30:51,559 --> 00:30:55,480
she's she's leaving. I'm a lot more intrigued on kind

702
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,000
of who's going to be stepping into that role and

703
00:30:57,319 --> 00:30:59,960
just what's what their pitches, you know, like when James

704
00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:04,640
Gun and Peter Saffron, yeah, you go nice some learning

705
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,880
guys number two, Like when they stepped in, it's like,

706
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,960
this is the slate, this is what's happening. And then

707
00:31:11,079 --> 00:31:13,200
of course, you know, famously we had the Star Wars

708
00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:14,559
slate of what's gonna be happening.

709
00:31:14,599 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 3: We saw some of those projects.

710
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 6: But I'm just intrigued if that is gonna be the case,

711
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,440
or if it's just gonna be a quiet takeover nothing

712
00:31:22,519 --> 00:31:24,799
really is changing. I hope it's not that case, though.

713
00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:28,359
Speaker 1: Two things, God Loves Me six and nights. It's easy,

714
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,599
but hard to place the blame with so many moving

715
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,119
parts and investors. Yeah it is, And I don't think

716
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,039
it's all like just like it's just Kathy Kennedy, right,

717
00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:38,839
Like I don't think there's a bunch of stuff that happened.

718
00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:40,640
And like if you look at her track record, one

719
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,920
of the greatest producers of all time, like she helped

720
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,160
Spielberg produce Jurassic Park, like arguably it could be the

721
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,920
greatest movie all time. And even like when Stars started,

722
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,400
I think it was good. But there's just even other

723
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,200
things like the Han Soul thing. You could say that's

724
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,440
her fault, but maybe not her fault, Like you could say,

725
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,880
maybe it's a good thing, Like they were making a

726
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,720
bad movie and she decided to pivot, right, you could

727
00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:02,039
say I need to agree before but and I think,

728
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:03,640
like what you're tum about kirkle and the problem was

729
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,200
all I won't say the problem. But I guess a

730
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,599
good thing for her was anytime there was like a misstep,

731
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,160
It's like, okay, right, Skywalk came out, but Manda was happening,

732
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,920
and that was a huge win. And there's a bunch

733
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,319
of men. But then and Or came out and they

734
00:32:13,359 --> 00:32:15,039
got like lots of praise for it and stuff, so

735
00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:17,720
now don't I don't know if it's just the timing.

736
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,680
There was some rumors, there's a bunch of stuff. There's

737
00:32:21,759 --> 00:32:24,759
rumors that she was originally gonna retire after Nana Jones

738
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,559
because they thought it was gonna be a win, so

739
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,119
she's gonna kind of go out like you know, home run,

740
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,200
I'm out here, and then that didn't work out. And

741
00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:34,240
then there's also rumors that when the whole chat Chapic

742
00:32:34,359 --> 00:32:36,559
Iiger thing happened, that they asked her like, could you

743
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,039
just stand for a bit, because remember Iger retired, they

744
00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:41,880
got shapick. He came in, pissed everyone off, fivey all

745
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,599
this stuff. They said, make a make ten Disney plus shows,

746
00:32:44,599 --> 00:32:46,839
all this stuff, and then Ager came back. And that

747
00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:49,119
is a rumor that supposedly she did try to leave

748
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,839
originally and they're like just just like wait, we don't

749
00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:53,839
want you to go. So again, like people might I know,

750
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,720
some people are gonna definitely spin and like, oh Disney

751
00:32:55,759 --> 00:32:57,640
got her out. It legitimately could just be her like hey,

752
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,759
I'm done. Like she's like I think she's near seventy.

753
00:32:59,799 --> 00:33:02,799
She's work and she has like a fifty plus career,

754
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,000
like you look at her IMDb credits, Like way before

755
00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:06,960
we were talking about on the podcast for Star Wars,

756
00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:09,599
she's working a bunch of different movies and it's like

757
00:33:10,039 --> 00:33:12,960
Indiana Jones before, right and et like a bunch of stuff.

758
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,240
So Armani Martinez says, does it prove the Last ye

759
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,039
I impacted stars and its viability for the future and after?

760
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,519
I don't. I know some people put that on Last Jedi.

761
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,839
I personally don't. I put that more on Rise of

762
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,400
Skywalker and the aftermath, like what Kirkland stead of just

763
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,960
the stopping start projects. I know, like a bunch of

764
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,839
people in the internet hate Last Jedi and whatnot. They

765
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,119
killed Luke. But like I think if Last Jedi was

766
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,039
really that bad, Rise of Skywalker wouldn't have made a million.

767
00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:42,359
I think Rise of Skywalker was more damaging because that

768
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,079
felt like that was like because that was the ending

769
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,039
to it, all right, it's last time you see Leah,

770
00:33:47,079 --> 00:33:48,400
last time you see Luke. So it's like even the

771
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,440
middle chapter's like, oh right, the ending though, that has

772
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,640
to be special and the fact that it's not. But

773
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,680
do you guys describe that all you think Last Jedi

774
00:33:54,759 --> 00:33:56,480
is where this all started, or you think it's kind

775
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,079
of a collection of things, because I know a lot

776
00:33:58,079 --> 00:33:59,559
of people are gonna have that narrative of like, oh,

777
00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:01,640
it was good until that movie came out.

778
00:34:01,759 --> 00:34:05,319
Speaker 3: You know, No, I don't think so.

779
00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 6: I definitely echo what you mentioned there, or the Rise

780
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,639
of Skywalker is just more significant of a yeah, of

781
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,119
a negative notch m the.

782
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: Only thing that's where all went wrong Last Jedi.

783
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,599
Speaker 5: Oh God, I have no idea. I need to hear

784
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:19,400
Taylor's thought on this.

785
00:34:19,519 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 7: Okay, Taylor, I would say that's where things became divisive, devisive.

786
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,519
Speaker 1: But do you think that's where you think that's the

787
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:30,199
starting point where they couldn't recover? Like Last Jedi came

788
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,119
out and from that, no matter what Kathy did, they

789
00:34:32,119 --> 00:34:34,119
were just fucked because like a couple years later, Mando

790
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,239
comes out and huge.

791
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 7: That's that's not where it started and things are down Hell,

792
00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:41,280
I would say, I don't think that's where it started

793
00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:42,800
where things were going downhill.

794
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,679
Speaker 1: Say it again, I thought you did say that, though

795
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:45,719
I thought you said, yeah.

796
00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:47,519
Speaker 7: I think that's where the fan base became divisive. But

797
00:34:47,519 --> 00:34:49,159
I don't think that's where people were starting to throw

798
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:52,360
the blame onto Kathleen Kennedy when Last Jedi came out.

799
00:34:52,519 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: That is definitely more Ryan Johnson. I think I think

800
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,760
there was more people are like, oh, this guy came

801
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,880
in and he ruined Star Wars even though it's like

802
00:34:59,159 --> 00:35:01,400
all these exects prove and they and they gave him

803
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,280
his own trilogy, right, so they liked what he was doing.

804
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,800
But uh, and finally, Spob says, it'd be interesting to

805
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,719
do a cast look at all the canceled scrap Star

806
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,000
Wars stuff for the last ten years. Stay tuned in

807
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:13,719
July because we have a bunch of casts planned for

808
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,960
our tenure and that is pretty much the thing we're

809
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,840
gonna do for the canteen of conversations. Let's just look

810
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,159
at the last ten years of because like really, Force

811
00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:24,119
Awakens came out the first year the podcast started, so

812
00:35:24,159 --> 00:35:28,119
we've been there. So we're gonna stay tuned. But Taylor

813
00:35:28,159 --> 00:35:29,679
don't say he wants to hear more from you. So, tayor,

814
00:35:29,679 --> 00:35:32,639
what do you feel about this whole situation about Kathy

815
00:35:32,679 --> 00:35:34,440
And then you got any preference of who you want

816
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:40,800
to take the crown? Big Dan Lynn, Big Dan Lynn. Yeah, so.

817
00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 7: We've talked about this many a time before just the

818
00:35:46,199 --> 00:35:49,480
Kathleen Kennedy and all that, and just the the issues

819
00:35:49,679 --> 00:35:52,199
and stuff that Disney is having with with Star Wars.

820
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 4: It's not it's not great.

821
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 7: So her planning a retirement and the news kind of

822
00:35:57,079 --> 00:35:59,320
dropping at the wee hours that it did, I think, Okay,

823
00:35:59,519 --> 00:36:02,639
she just beating something to the punch here because something

824
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,679
was being played around and she renewed her contract what

825
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,440
two years ago? I feel like it was when we

826
00:36:08,519 --> 00:36:11,519
were doing that Star Wars celebration Late Night's stream Travis.

827
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:14,920
I thought that was around there around that time. Yeah, yeah,

828
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,239
So something is obviously causing her to cut that short,

829
00:36:19,039 --> 00:36:22,320
because I don't think you just you just canceled midway

830
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,360
through a contract like this.

831
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,119
Speaker 1: I think did say two year contract, thought it was.

832
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 7: I thought it was a five year, a four or

833
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,960
five year, and I think it's two years into it

834
00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:32,639
now she's canceling, And I think either way, I'm pretty

835
00:36:32,639 --> 00:36:36,760
sure she's she's not fully completed that that contract with them,

836
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,559
So there's there's something going on there now. I know

837
00:36:40,639 --> 00:36:42,760
at the end of the day, like I love Dave Filony,

838
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,039
I love the stuff, the certain projects that he does,

839
00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:47,679
because there's there's a certain connection to those characters that

840
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,360
I can I can jive with. But at its core,

841
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,280
I do agree he's not the right fit to replace

842
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,400
her because she is someone who, yes, she's producing things,

843
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,679
she also is sitting in and doing a lot more

844
00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:04,039
this oriented things, lots of stuff that's devoid of the

845
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:05,000
creative aspect.

846
00:37:05,199 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 4: That's where you got John and you got Dave.

847
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 7: They're working on the creative aspect of things, and they

848
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:13,480
can stay in those types of positions, but there there's

849
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,239
certain things here that you need to have someone who

850
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,480
is producing these projects and someone that can I think

851
00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:23,400
be more suited to that business end of the.

852
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:25,599
Speaker 4: End of things and.

853
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,199
Speaker 1: Seth Figgy put them in there and change that cap up.

854
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,199
Speaker 4: I can pig Star Wars.

855
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: That's how you should do it, though, Disney, if you

856
00:37:34,039 --> 00:37:37,239
listening that he should at some convention take off a

857
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,800
hat and imagine it's like the Downing thing where he

858
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,920
puts on a hat and it's the fucking Star Wars logo.

859
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,320
That that pot would be huge, that'd be I'm telling you, Disney,

860
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:47,639
steal that I do it.

861
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 7: So I I do think I think that we just

862
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,920
need to get some projects out that are just very

863
00:37:57,079 --> 00:38:00,400
very simple, simple stuff, and I think some of the

864
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,119
projects by next year, like and Or, feels incredibly simple.

865
00:38:04,599 --> 00:38:06,519
But it's it's i'm gonna say, it's very much a

866
00:38:06,599 --> 00:38:09,360
niche thing because it's simplicity. It's talking, it's going into

867
00:38:09,559 --> 00:38:13,920
like imperial political stuff, imperial are uh sorry, like espionage,

868
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,960
all that spy stuff. It's got so many different things,

869
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:17,960
very simple, but it's like, hey, this is great. I

870
00:38:18,039 --> 00:38:20,760
know not everyone is super into like the political part

871
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,880
of the empire, but I eat that ship up for breakfast, lunch,

872
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:24,280
and dinner.

873
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 1: I love it for breakfast.

874
00:38:30,559 --> 00:38:31,679
Speaker 4: It's just it's it's great.

875
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 7: It's absolutely fantastic, and other shows didn't need to be

876
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,840
super heavyly reliant on the cameos, even though again I

877
00:38:39,199 --> 00:38:40,039
eat that stuff up.

878
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:41,599
Speaker 4: I like it, but not everyone does.

879
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,159
Speaker 7: People like the originality of and and Or because it's

880
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,119
and we'll talk more about the trailer later, but it's

881
00:38:46,159 --> 00:38:47,159
just it's it's original.

882
00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:49,079
Speaker 4: It's not relying on anything. It's just you see familiar

883
00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:50,960
things from the universe, and that's great.

884
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 7: And then you have something like Boba Fett where you

885
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,119
got all We've got the rank or or we got

886
00:38:56,119 --> 00:38:58,639
all these other things in here, and and whatnot.

887
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,280
Speaker 4: It's like, Okay, that's that's cool.

888
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,559
Speaker 7: There's some originality things tossed in there, and they're not

889
00:39:03,639 --> 00:39:06,480
really relying on things like cad Baine and whatnot. So

890
00:39:06,519 --> 00:39:10,039
I can appreciate that you get the Pikes, but in

891
00:39:10,199 --> 00:39:14,559
terms of just simplicity, I think we just need a

892
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,800
point A to be Star Wars Adventure. And I think

893
00:39:19,199 --> 00:39:23,480
Disney really pivoting to Disney Plus is in retrospect damaging

894
00:39:23,519 --> 00:39:25,920
for them. I think it'll be by the time we

895
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,039
get Mando, what's seven years since we've had a movie

896
00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:30,639
on the big screen. Which that's a failure, and that

897
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,719
is Kathleen Kennedy's failure. You cannot dismiss that has she

898
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,719
had a great early career, absolutely, as you said, there's

899
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,519
like et and there's a Jurassic Park, tons of stuff

900
00:39:40,519 --> 00:39:43,760
with Spielberg, so she's got an amazing resume there, but

901
00:39:44,559 --> 00:39:46,480
not at this point she doesn't have to worry about

902
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:46,960
She's not gonna be.

903
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 4: Going look for another job. She's gonna be retiring.

904
00:39:49,199 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 7: But at this point this is definitely something that would

905
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,719
not save you if you were looking for another job,

906
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,440
because this is definitely a massive failure and this is

907
00:39:57,519 --> 00:39:59,960
not gonna this doesn't earn money into shareholders pocket.

908
00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 4: People are pissed.

909
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,079
Speaker 7: Yes, I know, we've talked about most of those Star

910
00:40:03,079 --> 00:40:05,440
Wars films, all of them except Solo. They're billion dollar

911
00:40:05,559 --> 00:40:10,800
movies and that's fantastic, but those were what once a year,

912
00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:13,440
once every two years, and now here we are seven

913
00:40:13,519 --> 00:40:16,639
years empty and that's profits Disney and shareholders could have

914
00:40:16,679 --> 00:40:18,360
been making and they're not making that kind of money.

915
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 4: So they're gonna be upset about that obviously.

916
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,639
Speaker 7: And the shows, Yes, the shows are making money off

917
00:40:23,679 --> 00:40:26,480
of the subscriptions and whatnot, but we've seen how many

918
00:40:26,599 --> 00:40:29,480
viewerships that these newer shows have and they're not like

919
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,920
breaking records, right, I was gonna say, are they anymore?

920
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:33,159
Speaker 6: Though?

921
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: Like are people subscribing Disney Plus for the new shows?

922
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,840
And someone say they're suscribed for Star Wars the brand? Okay,

923
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,719
I can understand that, but I don't even think it's that.

924
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,320
I think it's just to have, like, oh the backlog.

925
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,480
I like these movies, but like Acolyte, what was I

926
00:40:48,519 --> 00:40:50,760
think it was? Like it broken? Like for the streaming numbers,

927
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,559
the first episode or two is in the top ten

928
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,880
and that which is a big Nose Die Skeleton Crew,

929
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,320
which I love. I think is one of the best

930
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,119
Star Wars things they've done since they've started. They never

931
00:40:59,159 --> 00:41:00,480
even gone to the top ten in the stream the

932
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,199
whole time was on, So it's like, I don't even

933
00:41:02,199 --> 00:41:04,119
know if you can make that case anymore then, and man,

934
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,000
Man's going to the theater, so it's not like Mando,

935
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:09,159
Like people are subscribing for Mando anymore. It's gonna be

936
00:41:09,159 --> 00:41:11,000
on the big screen now because people have said, like,

937
00:41:11,079 --> 00:41:13,119
that's what's happening with Mando is it's the Moana two

938
00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:15,039
thing where it is pretty much was supposed to be

939
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:16,039
the season and they said, I.

940
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 7: Just make it a movie, you know, yeah, And I

941
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,000
mean I think you mentioned it where like if she

942
00:41:21,159 --> 00:41:23,840
retires and then Mendo comes out, that's under her umbrella,

943
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,320
so she's ending on the high note if it makes

944
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,760
a billion dollars, and you're totally right, and I would

945
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,119
not I would not put that put it past them

946
00:41:31,159 --> 00:41:32,679
to think, Okay, that's what they're gonna do, because I

947
00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:34,599
think Andro is gonna be a hit, I really really do.

948
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,039
I think that's the last show as well on Disney.

949
00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:39,039
Plus we don't have any we know, there's an Ahsoka

950
00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:41,039
season too, but we have nothing else on that.

951
00:41:41,159 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 4: We just know there's any film to looking at it. Yeah,

952
00:41:43,519 --> 00:41:44,840
so that's way out to lunch.

953
00:41:45,519 --> 00:41:48,599
Speaker 7: There's no other shows coming out after and or for Disney,

954
00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:51,400
plus nothingk slated. The only thing that we have slated

955
00:41:51,559 --> 00:41:53,199
is the Mandalorid and grogl movie.

956
00:41:53,639 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 4: That's it. That's put.

957
00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,039
Speaker 7: So there's nothing else to really look like look down on,

958
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,000
like what do we got coming around the corner?

959
00:42:02,679 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 1: Which could make a lot of sense now with this

960
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,480
timing of like there's not much on the horizon and

961
00:42:06,559 --> 00:42:09,079
we're about to shift gears, which might not be a

962
00:42:09,159 --> 00:42:11,639
bad thing because remember the awkward moment when Gun and

963
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,960
Saffron took over and they still had Blue Beetle, Auquaman

964
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,719
Shazam too, and it was all these movies from a

965
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,199
dead universe and like they never said that, but it's like,

966
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,360
well these movies like really mean nothing in the great

967
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,159
even flashed extent right, Like they meant nothing. Where I

968
00:42:25,199 --> 00:42:28,360
guess it's the only bad thing is because our arm

969
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,000
money asked us about the Revenge is coming back to theaters.

970
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,320
I think it's just to like if it does, big Man,

971
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:34,679
they don't think it's gonna be big money. I think

972
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,000
I'll just do fine. I think it's just because it's

973
00:42:37,039 --> 00:42:39,719
a twentieth anniversary put it out there. But the Ray

974
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,199
movie and everything like all that in the new trilogy

975
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,679
they announced, I think anything that they it's classic Star Wars, right,

976
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,320
but like legitimately this time, there's like a good reason

977
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,880
that anything that's been out there announced. I think it's

978
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,679
kind of like the gun thing of like don't hold

979
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,320
your breath, Like if it's non production like the Ray movie,

980
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,039
don't know if that's gonna happen, that Mangled movie. Because

981
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,119
if it's just like Foloni or Faver, they might come

982
00:43:01,159 --> 00:43:03,400
in and go, oh yeah, sure, let's just keep going, right.

983
00:43:03,519 --> 00:43:05,760
And that's why God was just six ninety asked like,

984
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,280
is there any sore thumbs or absolutely no ways in

985
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,000
the runner lineup? For me, it is Folony. I don't

986
00:43:12,119 --> 00:43:13,840
I'm not gonna fire him. I'm not saying to get

987
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,000
rid of him, keep them on his post. But he's

988
00:43:16,199 --> 00:43:18,360
I think the problem is he's very much like George,

989
00:43:18,679 --> 00:43:20,360
which is a funny thing because he creates Star Wars,

990
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,760
but like he sees Star Wars one way, and sometimes

991
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,880
that doesn't create the best product to watch. And I

992
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,719
think there's a lot of stuff, especially the past few

993
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,440
years of Actlyte. The rumors was like he took a

994
00:43:31,559 --> 00:43:33,960
chainsaw to that show. Like a writer said like, oh yeah,

995
00:43:34,039 --> 00:43:36,440
he changed a bunch of stuff. She deactivated her account,

996
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,400
and then a bunch of Scooper's like, yeah, he fucked up,

997
00:43:38,639 --> 00:43:40,960
like he did a lot with that show. Because the

998
00:43:41,039 --> 00:43:43,360
problem is, which is not a bad thing. There's certain

999
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,840
things that aren't Star Wars or it's too dark, like

1000
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,760
the way George would feel like oh that's like even

1001
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,599
stuff with the books that George went like, oh, I

1002
00:43:49,639 --> 00:43:51,719
would never put that in my movie because like mar Jade,

1003
00:43:52,039 --> 00:43:54,519
that doesn't match Star Wars for X, Y and Z, right,

1004
00:43:54,599 --> 00:43:57,440
but I don't, you know, George shouldn't have sold that

1005
00:43:57,519 --> 00:43:59,679
was the case, and Dave's not the owner owner, so

1006
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,079
for me, and like what that producer said in that

1007
00:44:02,119 --> 00:44:04,519
Hollywood article that said he'd get killed from all sides,

1008
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,360
I absolutely agree with that because the stuff like Taya

1009
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,400
said that Kathy's doing, I'm sure they've had Folony doing it,

1010
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,039
but Kathy's been doing it for forty years plus. You

1011
00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:15,679
can't just learn and Flony's taking his real posts like

1012
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,960
i'd say like Mandalorian Times, the same thing, Ryce Skoyle

1013
00:44:19,079 --> 00:44:22,320
Walker six this year, so tons of more experience than

1014
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,800
other people have. But for me, it cannot be him,

1015
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,719
and that's why I like if it is him or John,

1016
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,039
I think I have my preference of like I'd rather

1017
00:44:31,159 --> 00:44:33,320
Favre but I don't think he's a gun I don't

1018
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,000
think he just wants James Gunn wants to make comic

1019
00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:37,719
movies the rest of his life. I don't think Favrau

1020
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,280
wants to make stars with me the rest of his life.

1021
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,760
But I don't know that. Maybe he does, maybe he's like,

1022
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,440
fuck yeah, it's the best gig ever. But if it's

1023
00:44:43,559 --> 00:44:46,039
those two, I think things are relatively the same, and

1024
00:44:46,119 --> 00:44:48,840
to me, that's not a good thing. They're like if

1025
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,760
fig He gets in there, I think there's a big change.

1026
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,960
I don't know if that's a good thing, but like

1027
00:44:53,079 --> 00:44:55,719
if fig He gets in there, I don't think anything's safe,

1028
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,440
like the Ray movie, the trilogy, Like I don't like,

1029
00:44:58,639 --> 00:45:01,039
is Figgy gonna want to soak season two? Like I

1030
00:45:01,119 --> 00:45:06,000
don't know. And that's to see Figy and Folony like

1031
00:45:06,519 --> 00:45:09,000
that interview. I'm not saying they like hayesha, I'm just like,

1032
00:45:09,079 --> 00:45:11,599
that's it's so interesting because that would be like the

1033
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,400
dad and stepdad situation where Star Wars is the kid

1034
00:45:15,559 --> 00:45:18,320
and Flony was the dad, but now fig he's married

1035
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,239
the former wife. It's like, no, this is my son

1036
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,119
now too, And it's like and full like because that's

1037
00:45:25,199 --> 00:45:28,400
the thing that if FIE's expressing interest in it, that

1038
00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:31,679
means he like he's getting at MCU. I think one

1039
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,079
secret Wars an x men is done, Like he's gonna

1040
00:45:34,639 --> 00:45:36,920
he's gonna do x Men do a home run? Oh

1041
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,079
he's started on x Men two thousand, he finished on MCU.

1042
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,519
What more is there for him to do? So it's like,

1043
00:45:42,599 --> 00:45:44,760
if he's expressing interest and if I'm ig and everything,

1044
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,119
sure the MCU has been like iffy right now, but

1045
00:45:47,159 --> 00:45:50,320
it's like, how do you not try it out? But

1046
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,719
I also wonder because my last point on the God's

1047
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,679
Colonies six and nine comment is the article mentioned that

1048
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,840
Kathy's like recommending Foloony the person. I could see a

1049
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,000
scenario that Fullony is like the interim guy and it

1050
00:46:06,119 --> 00:46:08,000
goes really bad and they just like almost use his

1051
00:46:08,159 --> 00:46:10,480
escapegoat to get rid of them because Figgy. I don't

1052
00:46:10,519 --> 00:46:13,400
think he's gonna become the Star Wars present during Secret

1053
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,840
Wars and King It's not King Dinasy Tombsday and all

1054
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,639
that stuff, Like he stills a couple more years. So

1055
00:46:19,679 --> 00:46:21,519
I could almost see them like, oh yeah, sure, let's

1056
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,360
let's have Dave. But I feel like they might chapick

1057
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,639
Dave Foloni and give it to him and when everything

1058
00:46:26,679 --> 00:46:29,199
goes wrong, but yeah, see he was never the right guy.

1059
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,239
Let's give it to and then imagine that because Figgie

1060
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:35,119
could be coming off billion dollar Doomsday, billion dollar Secret Wars.

1061
00:46:35,039 --> 00:46:37,599
Speaker 4: They bring Kennedy back just like they brought Iger back.

1062
00:46:38,519 --> 00:46:41,159
Speaker 1: Maybe, but like that that's me with Filoni is like

1063
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,360
I just a lot of things. I just still I

1064
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,920
think he's there creatively, but he should not be the guy,

1065
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:46,559
you know.

1066
00:46:47,039 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 7: So, and my last closingving here, I just want to

1067
00:46:51,079 --> 00:46:54,119
share a couple of these crazy Kennedy thumbnails because he's

1068
00:46:54,119 --> 00:46:57,159
always just cracked me up. Kennedy trade and these are

1069
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,880
real YouTube thumbnails. Everybody there's that one that I got,

1070
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:05,280
This one, This made me laugh, she wants to leave,

1071
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,039
And then this is my personal favorite.

1072
00:47:09,679 --> 00:47:10,599
Speaker 4: Of the nights.

1073
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: Oh my, this will change nothing. You'll miss me when

1074
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,719
I'm gone, right, well, okay, that had that's all bad, right,

1075
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,559
but the headline this will change nothing. If it is

1076
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,440
just Dave and John, it does really to me change

1077
00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:25,079
nothing other than like they have less experience than her,

1078
00:47:25,199 --> 00:47:27,159
so like I think it would be work. Like I

1079
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,400
think if you asked me to pick Kathy John er Falloni,

1080
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,719
I'd say get Kathy back for more years, because then

1081
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,920
that's just more of the thing with less experience. I know,

1082
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,599
people say, oh, Favreau is MCU. I just don't. I

1083
00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:39,440
just don't see Favreau doing it. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe

1084
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,119
that's why he's directed Man Learn and Grogu so you

1085
00:47:41,159 --> 00:47:43,440
can be like the fucking guy, right, that's his superman.

1086
00:47:43,519 --> 00:47:43,880
I don't know.

1087
00:47:45,559 --> 00:47:47,679
Speaker 4: There you go, Dylan, how do you go? How do

1088
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:48,039
you feel?

1089
00:47:49,519 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: You know? This is perfect?

1090
00:47:50,559 --> 00:47:52,559
Speaker 5: I am the pupil. You guys are my teachers, because

1091
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:55,400
I've been so checked out of Star Wars the last

1092
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,760
few years that like, this is all really useful context

1093
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,000
and I'm sure the audien I feel like the audience

1094
00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:01,880
right now, which which is perfect kind of exactly what

1095
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,320
I need here. I'm trying to think so flony. You know,

1096
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,320
what was his involvement in Mandalorian season one again in

1097
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:09,320
season one and two.

1098
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 1: Writer, and then is he showrunners Favre showrunner? Like it's Favreau, Okay,

1099
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:17,639
so I think he's like a head writer.

1100
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 5: So he's got his fingers in there a little bit. Yeah, Yeah,

1101
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,480
just because in terms of looking at him as being

1102
00:48:23,559 --> 00:48:25,559
the successor here, I just have no context because I

1103
00:48:25,599 --> 00:48:28,199
haven't really engaged with any of the flony era of

1104
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:29,920
Star Wars stuff. And it sounds like there's definitely some

1105
00:48:30,039 --> 00:48:32,360
pros and cons to it, but yeah, the timing of

1106
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,559
it does seem kind of strange. But maybe that's you know,

1107
00:48:36,679 --> 00:48:38,800
intentional too. But I think what you're saying there, Travis,

1108
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,679
of how there's like issues with these other like Disney CEOs,

1109
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,599
you know, there was a writer's strike still, like COVID

1110
00:48:44,639 --> 00:48:46,559
obviously put a huge dent on a lot of things,

1111
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,079
and so maybe like the time just never really felt

1112
00:48:49,119 --> 00:48:51,119
quite right and they just felt like, Okay, things are

1113
00:48:51,159 --> 00:48:52,840
so chaotic right now, we just got to keep this

1114
00:48:53,079 --> 00:48:56,039
level of consistency, keep keep her in this role until

1115
00:48:56,119 --> 00:48:58,400
like things smooth out a bit. But at some point

1116
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,280
you just you just got to make the toughest vision

1117
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,480
the sunk cost, fallacy of it, and just chop it

1118
00:49:02,519 --> 00:49:04,280
off and go with something new. Now what you're saying,

1119
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,639
if they just promote some other guy who's kind of

1120
00:49:06,639 --> 00:49:08,719
been in that same boat, then we're gonna change much.

1121
00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:10,960
But at the same time, it's like, wow, getting thrown

1122
00:49:11,079 --> 00:49:15,800
in here seems so impossible for anyone else right who

1123
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,079
doesn't have all the context, And maybe what you guys

1124
00:49:18,079 --> 00:49:20,360
are saying of like, how right now that doesn't seem

1125
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,159
like there's a ton of things that are actually in

1126
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,360
a meaningful state of production, So maybe this is a

1127
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:26,920
good time to do it when things are kind of low.

1128
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:28,880
But it also means all those things that we're talked

1129
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,960
about and announced in our official quote unquotes are kind

1130
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,199
of just fantasies at this point too, which I can

1131
00:49:34,199 --> 00:49:36,639
see why that's disappointing. But yeah, I mean I think

1132
00:49:36,679 --> 00:49:38,320
at some point you just got to make the tough decision.

1133
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,719
It's gonna be an uphill battle either way, and it

1134
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,880
feels like this is this is not working, And I mean,

1135
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:44,360
I don't know, I'm sure there's a lot of people

1136
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,719
in my same boat where it's like I just want

1137
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:48,280
to go to the theaters and watch a Star Wars movie.

1138
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,760
I'm not interested in these shows. Yeah, and so just

1139
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,400
gotta give me something that they're just unable to do

1140
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,079
that We're finally gonna get it next you with Mando.

1141
00:49:54,199 --> 00:49:57,519
But yeah, that's taking a freaking long time when that's

1142
00:49:57,559 --> 00:50:01,239
probably like your more profitable stuff, imagine. Yeah, Like, I

1143
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,840
feel like Disney Plus is probably capped out for the

1144
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,320
most part of where it's going to be now. They

1145
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,280
growth is probably very slow. So at the same time,

1146
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,880
he's got to feed the beast with new shows to

1147
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,760
keep people subscribed. But at the same time, the movies

1148
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,880
are where you want to be. It's the Golden goose

1149
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:15,280
right there.

1150
00:50:15,679 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I think the only way Disney Plus grows

1151
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,360
is like if they somehow get like a Game of

1152
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,840
Thrones level hit show all their hands where it becomes

1153
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,480
like the must Sy show. But I just don't see that.

1154
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,039
Speaker 5: How what they operate, Yeah, or if they acquire like

1155
00:50:29,079 --> 00:50:31,280
the paramounts of the world or other random stuff like that.

1156
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Taylor, Transformer series, very excited, right, Transformer series. They

1157
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,239
got paramounts. Don't worry about it. Let's go. I agree

1158
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,119
that the hard decisions because, like I'm saying, he had

1159
00:50:44,199 --> 00:50:47,159
more hard decisions. But can you imagine James Gunn when

1160
00:50:47,199 --> 00:50:50,559
he becomes president and then black Adam comes out and

1161
00:50:50,679 --> 00:50:52,800
Henry Cavill in the post credit, and then a week

1162
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,760
later Henry cavill announces that he's back as Superman. You

1163
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,719
know how you know that's why that man's hair is white.

1164
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,719
How hard that must have been in to sit and

1165
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,840
because the rumor is like ca well was not happy

1166
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,599
with anybody but particular that I did to get sat

1167
00:51:04,639 --> 00:51:06,679
down like we're not doing that. He put a nice post,

1168
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,679
but it's like imagine that, like he announces that and

1169
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,440
then three weeks later they get him into a room

1170
00:51:11,519 --> 00:51:13,440
like we need you to announce you're not suit anymore.

1171
00:51:13,559 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 4: Was that face to face? And I didn't gut It

1172
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:15,960
was face to face.

1173
00:51:16,039 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: Rumor was no rumors. It was face to face, and

1174
00:51:18,039 --> 00:51:19,400
the rumor was it didn't go well.

1175
00:51:19,559 --> 00:51:21,159
Speaker 4: It's not saying like fucked them up.

1176
00:51:21,199 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: Bull He just throw outside windows Like I'm not saying no,

1177
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,920
I don't think anything was unprofessional. I just think like

1178
00:51:29,199 --> 00:51:32,519
Henry ever hadad and just yeah, like he'd never right

1179
00:51:32,599 --> 00:51:34,960
to be pissed. But James Gunhead every right to be like, hey,

1180
00:51:35,039 --> 00:51:36,840
we're gonna just start over and dine I was gask

1181
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,320
you not from you like dil must the the guy

1182
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,000
who's like if you're on stores, because I think he's like, yeah,

1183
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:42,280
I do this.

1184
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,639
Speaker 5: I could be into it as there's play stars O Laws.

1185
00:51:44,639 --> 00:51:46,559
Speaker 1: That's all I want to make the sequel, you know,

1186
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,519
if they were to sit you down, because like the

1187
00:51:48,599 --> 00:51:52,119
benefit Gun had though, right, and even if Foggy leaves

1188
00:51:52,119 --> 00:51:54,400
and someone takes over Brad wind a Balm or somebody,

1189
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,320
if they say, hey, this isn't working, we can start

1190
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,639
over with Star Wars. You don't really have that. If

1191
00:51:58,679 --> 00:52:00,239
someone were to sit you down and say, hey, wet

1192
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,480
this new person that we think would be a good fit,

1193
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,880
but they want to reboot everything. Would you do you

1194
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,159
think that's a plausible thing for Star Wars to ever do,

1195
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,400
just to start anew or do you think it's like

1196
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,920
there's too much history and legacy there for like the

1197
00:52:14,159 --> 00:52:16,920
grand scope of people to accept that we're you know,

1198
00:52:17,039 --> 00:52:19,159
we're literally starting over. We're gonna do like a new

1199
00:52:19,199 --> 00:52:22,039
hope again. They'll retitle some things. But I was just

1200
00:52:22,159 --> 00:52:23,840
wondering from your perspective.

1201
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,039
Speaker 5: That's interesting. I mean I don't think so. I think

1202
00:52:27,079 --> 00:52:29,119
at most what you maybe ever get someday is like

1203
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,280
a remake, but that's not necessarily in the purpose of

1204
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,000
being Reba. It's just like a way to modernize it

1205
00:52:34,159 --> 00:52:37,360
or like modern tech and all that kind of stuff. Yeah,

1206
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:38,960
I don't see them ever doing that. I feel like

1207
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,599
there's just enough pockets and we kind of meme about

1208
00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:43,320
how they just stay in this dark era and that's

1209
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,559
where all this stuff that's like released, that's where all

1210
00:52:46,639 --> 00:52:49,800
everything's happening. But there is still a future untold that

1211
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,440
potentially is very interesting. You could even if you want,

1212
00:52:52,559 --> 00:52:54,320
just kick that fifty years down the line instead of

1213
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,920
like four or five whatever, so you can like separate

1214
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,320
it more, but it can still be in the same world.

1215
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,440
And then once again, now you have all that time

1216
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,239
in the middle, you can fill in with stuff later

1217
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,320
if you want. And then obviously you guys always talk

1218
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,840
about the Old Republic and that era and how there's

1219
00:53:07,199 --> 00:53:09,599
a lot more to be mined there as well. So

1220
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,480
I don't know, I think there's still so much they

1221
00:53:11,519 --> 00:53:14,039
could do on top of like, yeah, like Solo, we

1222
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:15,920
you know, it's not what we want it necessarily, but

1223
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,880
it's like if they want to go back to that

1224
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,880
old stuff, but there's still places they can, I don't know,

1225
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,480
find holes, find gaps to fill, So I don't I

1226
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,719
don't think we'd ever ever see that. I'll say that,

1227
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:27,719
I'll boldly say that.

1228
00:53:29,199 --> 00:53:31,079
Speaker 1: Remake I was gonna say, I don't know if we'll

1229
00:53:31,119 --> 00:53:32,519
ever see it. I bet it will happen, but I

1230
00:53:32,599 --> 00:53:34,719
bet we could be. They'll like, wait till that generation

1231
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,519
is dead, like anybody that could have grown up with

1232
00:53:36,639 --> 00:53:38,199
it and would feel sacred for it.

1233
00:53:38,599 --> 00:53:40,599
Speaker 5: Until they have spaceships that can move like that and

1234
00:53:40,679 --> 00:53:42,000
they can film it in real life.

1235
00:53:42,199 --> 00:53:44,199
Speaker 1: Once Tom Cruise has done his movie in space Bag,

1236
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:45,880
well he did it, we can, we can do it

1237
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,199
all and everything like that, and I that's the one

1238
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,159
good thing. It's it's halfway because stay that. I know

1239
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,480
again you defend your boy Filoni, but Cathy's gone, and

1240
00:53:53,559 --> 00:53:55,639
then Dave if he goes. The rumor was that they

1241
00:53:55,639 --> 00:53:58,239
don't like the Old Republic. So that's another thing why

1242
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,719
I want Filony out of here, because he's just again

1243
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,960
it's not Star Wars to him and George, it's just

1244
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,199
it's too dark. It's just whatever it may be.

1245
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 4: And some of my favorite like media's are just older

1246
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:10,480
Republic stuff.

1247
00:54:10,519 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 7: I know, I haven't played much of that Old Republic

1248
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,199
Star Wars game, that online game, but man, the cinematics

1249
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,920
they did with like this, like Army of Sith versus

1250
00:54:18,039 --> 00:54:19,039
like the Soldiers like.

1251
00:54:19,039 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 3: This on YouTube.

1252
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 6: And then I remember when I found that out. I'm like,

1253
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,360
how did I not know about this game? And I

1254
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,559
like downloaded it out an mmo, I'm like, oh.

1255
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, the game the game has has it has this

1256
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,559
fan based me that's fine, but those cinematics are just

1257
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,920
like fifteen minutes of some of the best Star Wars

1258
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,960
Old Republic cinematics you'll see it is fucking phenomenal.

1259
00:54:39,039 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: And that's you're not going to get that.

1260
00:54:41,559 --> 00:54:42,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's true.

1261
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: Like your boy to answer question that your boy, the

1262
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,199
question that they asked earlier, when I circle back to

1263
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:52,800
Super Mike, I said, it would have been interesting to

1264
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,880
see if they released me after Rise Skywalker taking COVID

1265
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,719
out of equation. Yeah, that's the thing we've never had,

1266
00:54:59,599 --> 00:55:02,719
like point of Okay, what would have happened, because I

1267
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,679
don't know what they would have done, but obviously COVID happened,

1268
00:55:05,679 --> 00:55:07,119
and like we said, there's a lot of things even

1269
00:55:07,159 --> 00:55:10,760
them see COVID and strike happened, so delays by multiple years.

1270
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,719
But yeah, it's just I think just Manda was a hit,

1271
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,039
and then COVID happened and the entire Hollywood world decided

1272
00:55:18,119 --> 00:55:20,880
that streaming is now the future. And then once COVID

1273
00:55:21,079 --> 00:55:23,000
was over, they realized how much money they don't make

1274
00:55:23,039 --> 00:55:25,599
from streaming, and now they've tried to go back to theaters.

1275
00:55:25,639 --> 00:55:27,559
But as we see, it's like tons of people are

1276
00:55:27,639 --> 00:55:30,559
just happy to stay at home because like The Gorge

1277
00:55:30,679 --> 00:55:33,480
comes out on Apple, or like Netflix has fucking Electric

1278
00:55:33,519 --> 00:55:35,039
stayed in a couple of weeks. It's like you don't

1279
00:55:35,079 --> 00:55:37,239
have to or these movies come out in a few

1280
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,320
like Companion, Like and I can't see right now because

1281
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:43,280
there's many people like myself that like you know, have kids, jobs, life, busy,

1282
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,400
can't see it. But like Companion was out fifteen days later.

1283
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,880
I was very excited to watch. But it's like that's brutal,

1284
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,840
and that's like saying thing like myself, I know that

1285
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,239
all it's gonna be here, so I can just buy

1286
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,920
it on VOD and watch it there. But yeah, that

1287
00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:00,480
would have been interesting. Let's see Esposally Secret is hitting

1288
00:56:00,519 --> 00:56:03,280
fifteen million opening weekend, like tear predicted for cat fight

1289
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,960
re designs the next day. Yeah, that would be uh rough, Yeah,

1290
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,360
that would be a bad time. But I think we're

1291
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,880
I I does anyone here not think doomsday? And see

1292
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,880
Wars at least a billion dollar movies last year.

1293
00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 5: We're good Marvel.

1294
00:56:17,599 --> 00:56:20,559
Speaker 1: I think those are like easy check marks for them.

1295
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,639
So yeah, we'll see, we'll see people. Some people say

1296
00:56:23,679 --> 00:56:26,079
we might hear some celebration. I don't know. I guess

1297
00:56:26,159 --> 00:56:29,239
maybe she could announce something. I guess it's in Japan,

1298
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,159
so I'd hope they're nicer. I just would hate for

1299
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,679
her to announce something and people to like cheer.

1300
00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:35,679
Speaker 4: That because I don't think she would announce.

1301
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,039
Speaker 1: It that I hope not, because I just don't well,

1302
00:56:38,039 --> 00:56:40,440
because she, like, for whatever happens, is not deserve that

1303
00:56:40,599 --> 00:56:43,559
or that crowd's like I'm leaving, like yeah, like it's

1304
00:56:43,639 --> 00:56:45,480
just like it's like, man, she put in a lot

1305
00:56:45,519 --> 00:56:47,599
of work and like like not everything went right, but

1306
00:56:47,679 --> 00:56:50,079
it's like, yeah, maybe it's time for a new captain.

1307
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,440
But uh yeah, this will be an evolving story we

1308
00:56:52,519 --> 00:56:54,159
talked about for the next year, and who knows, maybe

1309
00:56:54,159 --> 00:56:55,880
there's somebody we don't even know out there. And that's

1310
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,880
someone I wouldn't even mind either if it's not Fire

1311
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,239
or somebody like Find the Five.

1312
00:57:02,159 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're available. We're sellouts.

1313
00:57:04,639 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: You'd have to have us all because I wouldn't trust

1314
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,760
any single one of them. I'm definitely not trusting tales too.

1315
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 5: I would just green lights laws to.

1316
00:57:12,639 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 4: Movies.

1317
00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: Actual God, Yeah no you don't want to do what.

1318
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 5: Would you green light Kirkland? You get the green light?

1319
00:57:18,519 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 6: Water Republic? Definitely Old Republic. I feel like the money

1320
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,320
is at the Reven storyline, Like let's just let's just.

1321
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,119
Speaker 4: Do Main Reven or Bane. You could pick one, you

1322
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,039
do both. They're kind of tacted, they kind of cross

1323
00:57:30,119 --> 00:57:31,880
over eigers like one.

1324
00:57:34,039 --> 00:57:34,599
Speaker 1: Double lights.

1325
00:57:35,039 --> 00:57:37,159
Speaker 6: It would have to be the Darth Baine series. And

1326
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,199
I'm so biased on that because I've actually gone through

1327
00:57:39,199 --> 00:57:40,039
those novels wrong.

1328
00:57:40,599 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: So you can't do it because you need the hero's

1329
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,360
journey and I know as much you want the all,

1330
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,920
you could not like if they were pats or walks

1331
00:57:47,079 --> 00:57:49,719
on stage like we're doing Darth Bane, like the crowd

1332
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,639
goes wild. But like it's also the new movies about

1333
00:57:52,639 --> 00:57:54,519
following the bad guy, like I think.

1334
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:55,559
Speaker 4: You need you.

1335
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,039
Speaker 1: You can tie that in like Revin with the double

1336
00:57:58,119 --> 00:58:01,559
light Sabers. That's a fucking her right there, like coming

1337
00:58:01,639 --> 00:58:03,840
back and that's all you do for a bit. That's

1338
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,559
what I'd say is, you know tonight, it's a republic.

1339
00:58:05,559 --> 00:58:06,599
We're gonna do one movie.

1340
00:58:07,039 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 7: You do.

1341
00:58:07,599 --> 00:58:09,199
Speaker 1: Maybe you can do some animated stuff, but you don't

1342
00:58:09,239 --> 00:58:11,840
do anything, no other movies, no Dark Times, no prequel,

1343
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,320
no ray stuff. You just build out this universe, because

1344
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,239
imagine that mession. If you make a franchise that's like

1345
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,480
thousands years before and it's a hit, and then you

1346
00:58:19,599 --> 00:58:21,880
never have to rely on well, we gotta get a

1347
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,519
Luke deep Fate back and all, who's gonna play Hansult now?

1348
00:58:24,639 --> 00:58:26,519
Like if you can just take like that's why I

1349
00:58:26,599 --> 00:58:29,280
fucking love Skeleton Crew. That's what they did. They took

1350
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,000
Star Wars and made their own thing. They had little

1351
00:58:31,039 --> 00:58:33,400
East Riggs, but not like, hey, this is Luke's cousin

1352
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,199
and all this is Lea's blaster, Like no, it's like,

1353
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:37,960
oh you know that planet, you know this. And they

1354
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,440
didn't even go to shit like Taddey like Skelton Cruise

1355
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,519
the fucking Blueprint, but not with kids. That's why I'd saying,

1356
00:58:43,559 --> 00:58:46,440
all kids because it's not that's not a massive franchise.

1357
00:58:46,719 --> 00:58:47,760
You know, you just can't do it.

1358
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 6: So quick question, Travis, My Reven storyline is a bad

1359
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:52,119
guy anyways.

1360
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,599
Speaker 1: So yeah, but so you don't do the story where

1361
00:58:54,639 --> 00:58:56,159
they he loses his memory.

1362
00:58:56,159 --> 00:58:58,039
Speaker 3: You would have to if you're making the movie, you

1363
00:58:58,039 --> 00:58:58,400
would have to.

1364
00:58:58,519 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: But that's your empire strikes back twist. I've always, I

1365
00:59:03,239 --> 00:59:06,039
years ago in high school, wrote a three treatment. I

1366
00:59:06,079 --> 00:59:08,679
always that's a trilogy movie. That first game, you end

1367
00:59:08,719 --> 00:59:11,800
the second movie with the reveal of the Reven story,

1368
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,119
and that's your dar favorite.

1369
00:59:13,719 --> 00:59:16,239
Speaker 2: We're ready. We're ready, guys, you We're ready.

1370
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: We did a trend chrome, We're ready to take on

1371
00:59:18,519 --> 00:59:20,519
Star ors. Yeah, tell you some one question.

1372
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,639
Speaker 4: Skeletons. Your question, Uh, is it is the name of

1373
00:59:25,719 --> 00:59:28,880
the planet? Is it out of Holland? Atlanta? At Aden,

1374
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:30,000
it's at.

1375
00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:37,599
Speaker 1: Ye can't say I remember no great great Robot in

1376
00:59:37,719 --> 00:59:40,599
that movie or that show. So yeah, Dyl that's another

1377
00:59:40,639 --> 00:59:43,199
one along with and Or put Skeleton Crew on the list.

1378
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,679
It's a it's good. Don't need to know anything about stars.

1379
00:59:45,679 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 5: You could watch watched The Spider Man. Yet you think

1380
00:59:48,039 --> 00:59:49,079
I'm watching Skeleton Crew.

1381
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: No, I was just saying, I'm just saying, you hit

1382
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:55,039
the jackpot and whatever, let's get your hopes up. Don't

1383
00:59:55,079 --> 00:59:56,840
get the hopes up, let's get breaking. The will quickly

1384
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:58,480
hit on and Or and then we'll be right back

1385
00:59:59,639 --> 01:00:01,760
and we're back So and Or. We thought that was

1386
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,280
gonna be the biggest Star Wars news of this week.

1387
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,639
They dropped a trailer, and they also revealed that the

1388
01:00:05,719 --> 01:00:08,360
twelve episodes are gonna release in three episode batches. So

1389
01:00:08,639 --> 01:00:12,159
we went from a twelve week release. I heard a

1390
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,840
four week release schedule. I will say the trailer, I'm

1391
01:00:17,119 --> 01:00:19,920
awful trailer. I like what I saw that music. That

1392
01:00:20,239 --> 01:00:24,360
music is disgusting. They did this with Skeleton Crew. I

1393
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:28,320
think they feel there's some crackpot team where they're in

1394
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,400
their little looking at their stats and they saw ack

1395
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,960
line and I think we need trailers with like real

1396
01:00:33,079 --> 01:00:36,119
music in it. No, not at all to me. The

1397
01:00:36,199 --> 01:00:38,960
whole trailer is it's like scene and then quote from

1398
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:42,639
critics saying, the best Star Wars ever prestige television. That

1399
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,920
music made it feel like it was not prestige television.

1400
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,559
It made it feel like it was a fucking straight

1401
01:00:46,599 --> 01:00:48,800
to DVD thing. This stuff and it looked great, but

1402
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:50,679
that music was awful, like.

1403
01:00:50,679 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 5: The end of Venom, Like what kind of soundtracker are

1404
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:53,679
we talking here about you?

1405
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,239
Speaker 1: But it's just like it's just like rock and roll

1406
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,840
music with like lyrics. It's like modern day music. And

1407
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,760
to me, Star Wars that's that's a no no. Aclte

1408
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,880
did it, Skeleton Crew did it, and and or and

1409
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:05,880
guess what, look at those rains for ack LIGHTE and

1410
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:10,320
Skeleton Crew didn't fucking work out there. So I'm very excited.

1411
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,599
I'm kind of bummed by it. I think everybody is

1412
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:14,960
or a lot pular excited by the release schedule. I

1413
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,239
guess for me, it's probably more just podcasts related of

1414
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,840
one when from twelve weeks of content to four and

1415
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,880
then also just like from a business standpoint, the first

1416
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,000
show was already the lowest Star Wars show before Acolyte

1417
01:01:26,079 --> 01:01:28,719
and Skeleton Crew, so now it's like now it's only

1418
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,239
out for four weeks, Like I feel like this is

1419
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,159
easily people will could miss it and then just forget

1420
01:01:33,199 --> 01:01:35,320
about it. So I don't know if it's like they're

1421
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,159
like putting it out to pass or I don't think so,

1422
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,679
because the idea is these three episodes each them tell

1423
01:01:39,719 --> 01:01:42,079
an arc, right, but they did that last time, but

1424
01:01:42,159 --> 01:01:44,360
they did it weekly, so I don't know. I am

1425
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,440
very excited to have the best Star Wars back in

1426
01:01:46,519 --> 01:01:48,079
the Disney era, so it's gonna be a good time.

1427
01:01:48,119 --> 01:01:50,239
I think those reviews will be juicy. Not looking forward

1428
01:01:50,239 --> 01:01:52,880
to Tuesdays where I gotta watch like three fifteen minute

1429
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,960
episodes back to back and then jump on for the review.

1430
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,079
That's fun to dangle with the kids and the twins.

1431
01:01:57,159 --> 01:02:01,440
But uh yeah, trail looked fine. The music choice, someone

1432
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,199
should be let go for that. Maybe that was that

1433
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,880
was it? Actually Kathy's like, I have the song put

1434
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:07,760
on the trailer and I gres saw He's like, you're out.

1435
01:02:08,079 --> 01:02:10,119
You know, that's the last straw I saw the end

1436
01:02:10,239 --> 01:02:13,119
or trailer. You're out by twenty twenty five. Okay, I'll leave.

1437
01:02:13,239 --> 01:02:16,599
Speaker 2: But kirkle so extreme, You're so extreme.

1438
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 6: I it's funny. I I watched this this trailer first

1439
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,199
on my phone at work with no volume, and I'm like,

1440
01:02:24,599 --> 01:02:27,880
the Kirkland way so good. Yeah that you know, always good.

1441
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,400
It's like the the prequel trailer. Viewing it, it's always

1442
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,800
no volume on the phone. I got a new phone now,

1443
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,360
so it's the big screen, so it's a lot nicer

1444
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:36,000
to watch things.

1445
01:02:38,599 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: Go on.

1446
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 2: I'm trying to you don't pretend I'm working, you know.

1447
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,599
Speaker 6: But anyways, So yeah, I thought it was an amazing

1448
01:02:45,639 --> 01:02:49,679
looking trailer and or to this day, I I haven't

1449
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,480
I don't have a list, but I feel like it's

1450
01:02:51,519 --> 01:02:53,760
my favorite Disney Plus content like it it is.

1451
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 1: There's something on Patreon a couple of years ago recorded,

1452
01:02:56,519 --> 01:02:56,920
so there you go.

1453
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, so there you go. Thank you for reminding everyone.

1454
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 6: So yeah, I watched it there and then I rewatched

1455
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:08,519
it on the iPad, bigger screen, but with audio this time.

1456
01:03:09,119 --> 01:03:12,079
And again I love the trailer. Music definitely took me

1457
01:03:12,159 --> 01:03:14,480
out of it. So I hear where you come from, Travis.

1458
01:03:14,599 --> 01:03:18,000
I feel like initially I was liking the intensity of

1459
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,039
the music, but then I thought back to and Or

1460
01:03:20,079 --> 01:03:21,760
season one, and I'm like, that's actually like a very

1461
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:27,119
like melancholy like Tower show and this music is nothing

1462
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:28,440
of those vibes at all.

1463
01:03:28,519 --> 01:03:30,159
Speaker 1: High tempo, fast and furious music.

1464
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,119
Speaker 6: Yeah, and even what they were showing was like pretty

1465
01:03:33,199 --> 01:03:36,079
much part like it was on par with the music

1466
01:03:36,119 --> 01:03:38,159
in a way, like it seems like it's more I

1467
01:03:38,159 --> 01:03:42,079
don't want to say uplifting, but just more less depressing.

1468
01:03:42,199 --> 01:03:46,360
I guess, like like there's dancing, and there's you got

1469
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,320
our main and or man looking all handsome and suave,

1470
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,079
giving a smirk, little smile like a scoundrel. Like there's

1471
01:03:52,159 --> 01:03:54,320
just a different vibe that I'm getting from the season

1472
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,719
versus season one. But that being said, I don't even

1473
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,840
remember season one trailer, so I don't know if that

1474
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,159
felt very much like this or if it was a

1475
01:04:01,239 --> 01:04:04,199
lot more of a Dowur feel. But yeah, I it's

1476
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,440
just definitely a different tone than I would have been

1477
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:13,280
expecting going into the season. I still am so excited

1478
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:14,840
though for the show, like I like and Or Season

1479
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,079
one is just it's so juicy for me.

1480
01:04:17,559 --> 01:04:18,639
Speaker 3: I love that show so much.

1481
01:04:18,719 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: And to be clear, I have no wavering on the show.

1482
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:22,960
I think this was just some execs or some market

1483
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,079
team trying to make it look like super sexy and

1484
01:04:25,159 --> 01:04:27,639
it's like I didn't work here.

1485
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 6: So yeah, like for how they they did the trailer

1486
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:34,960
too in a positive way, I feel like it doesn't

1487
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:39,760
feel like a Star Wars like I don't know, It's

1488
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,679
it's hard to say, because like it does, it's obviously

1489
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:48,280
Star Wars or Stormtroopers now, but like, but like, it

1490
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,440
doesn't feel like other Star Wars trailers that I've seen,

1491
01:04:50,559 --> 01:04:52,360
and and Or is a type of show that isn't

1492
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,159
like other Star Wars shows because it's it's really engaging

1493
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:59,320
and like intense, and it doesn't feel like, I don't know,

1494
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,679
like a Saturday day morning cartoons sort of like like

1495
01:05:02,079 --> 01:05:04,679
and there's not necessarily wrong something wrong with that, but

1496
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,679
it's just it's nice to have a different feel of

1497
01:05:06,719 --> 01:05:08,880
a show, like how we got Skeleton Crew, which feels

1498
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:10,719
different from other Star Wars content, but very much for

1499
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,760
a specific audience. I feel like and Or is that,

1500
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,440
uh and just a lot more in my type of

1501
01:05:15,519 --> 01:05:17,920
category of shows that I really really like. And Star

1502
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,440
Wars pairing is perfect and just yeah, everything that they

1503
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,119
introduced in that first season, I absolutely love all the

1504
01:05:23,239 --> 01:05:24,320
shots I saw in this.

1505
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,079
Speaker 2: Although it is a different tone, I'm still excited for.

1506
01:05:27,239 --> 01:05:30,599
Speaker 6: I'm still really really looking forward to that. April twenty second,

1507
01:05:30,639 --> 01:05:32,920
I think is a release date in terms of the

1508
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,320
release window, it being in four chunks.

1509
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,159
Speaker 3: I mean, I loved it.

1510
01:05:38,239 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 6: For the last few shows that have done it, Spider

1511
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:41,480
Man would have been the most recent one. Just because

1512
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,760
I love the show so much, so I'm expecting to

1513
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,559
love this show so much so to be able to

1514
01:05:46,639 --> 01:05:47,199
just binge.

1515
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:47,639
Speaker 3: Them in that sense.

1516
01:05:48,199 --> 01:05:50,559
Speaker 6: Sometimes you know, my my, sometimes I get off work

1517
01:05:50,559 --> 01:05:52,440
a little bit later, So it's gonna be interesting just

1518
01:05:53,239 --> 01:05:55,320
timing those those three hour viewings.

1519
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:56,639
Speaker 1: But midnight reviews, here we go.

1520
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 3: We'll get her done. We'll get her done one way

1521
01:05:58,400 --> 01:05:58,679
or the other.

1522
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Taylor, I don't think they'll watch the trailer right,

1523
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,199
don't need to watch it, no is yours?

1524
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:07,559
Speaker 4: Uh.

1525
01:06:08,239 --> 01:06:10,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, the music has grown on me after rewatching it

1526
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,800
again and again again, I'll say it's not the best

1527
01:06:14,079 --> 01:06:17,039
music for the trailer. And I was curious that the

1528
01:06:17,079 --> 01:06:20,320
first trailer for the trailer for season one evan Or

1529
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:24,239
definitely a complete different tone, and I think something a

1530
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,039
little bit more slow and on beyond.

1531
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 4: Would have worked a little bit more for this trailer.

1532
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 7: But that being said, again, watching it repeatedly, like I

1533
01:06:33,519 --> 01:06:35,400
like once, then a couple of hours later, watching it again,

1534
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,159
then again later on, I was like, Okay, yeah, it's

1535
01:06:37,239 --> 01:06:39,159
kind of warming up a bit, but it is not perfect.

1536
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,760
The trailer itself. The visuals oh Man like Rogue one

1537
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,960
is top three for Star Wars movies for me at

1538
01:06:46,079 --> 01:06:47,960
Rogue one, Revenge of This is an Empire. It all

1539
01:06:48,119 --> 01:06:50,599
just it circulates in that top three list. I just

1540
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,280
some days I'm feeling this one, some days I'm feeling

1541
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,400
that one. And it's just the fact that we're getting

1542
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,800
this story now, getting closer and closer to Rogue one.

1543
01:06:59,239 --> 01:07:01,320
And there's certain events in here too that I had

1544
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,719
no idea about, like the Gorman massacre I think it's

1545
01:07:04,719 --> 01:07:07,400
called Gordon massacre. With this peaceful protest happens, the Empire

1546
01:07:07,559 --> 01:07:10,079
just just guns all these protesters down.

1547
01:07:10,119 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 4: That's supposed to be in here too.

1548
01:07:12,239 --> 01:07:14,519
Speaker 7: A lot other little things, other events that happened as well,

1549
01:07:14,599 --> 01:07:16,280
So there's lots of stuff going on that I'm thinking,

1550
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,559
Holy shit, this is gonna be really cool. And I'm

1551
01:07:18,599 --> 01:07:22,679
excited to see how we've developed from that that first season.

1552
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:26,559
Speaker 4: And again I was not expecting Sagerea. Man, they just

1553
01:07:26,679 --> 01:07:30,480
bring this fucker back, just keep holding them. I mean,

1554
01:07:30,599 --> 01:07:31,960
I'm I'm kind of done with him.

1555
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:34,159
Speaker 1: That's gonna be full.

1556
01:07:36,119 --> 01:07:39,559
Speaker 7: You know, you think he's only popping up in live action. No,

1557
01:07:39,679 --> 01:07:41,920
he's popping up and animated just as much as he

1558
01:07:42,039 --> 01:07:44,079
is in live action. And he did some things in

1559
01:07:44,159 --> 01:07:46,000
bad Batch. That really pissed me off. So I'm not

1560
01:07:46,079 --> 01:07:47,079
a fan of his character.

1561
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:53,079
Speaker 4: Uh. He made some very evil decisions, uh and it

1562
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,440
killed some people off and so I didn't like that.

1563
01:07:55,719 --> 01:07:57,280
And so he's which it.

1564
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,719
Speaker 7: Fits with his character absolutely because it's just him being

1565
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:05,239
a he's very radical. So to see what he's up

1566
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,760
to here, I'm intrigued, but I'm mostly intrigued to see

1567
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,239
what my mom was up to, say, what Luthan's up

1568
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:13,199
to the big thing as well as I can't wait

1569
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,199
to get back into the imperial political side of here

1570
01:08:15,239 --> 01:08:18,439
with director Crenick back and then Project Stardust and then

1571
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:22,560
especially I'm hoping I would love it because Ian Is

1572
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,600
he's popping off is Palpatine and the animated shows still

1573
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,000
and if we just get another scene of them holding

1574
01:08:28,119 --> 01:08:31,880
like a senate hearing and he just pops up, Oh

1575
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:32,800
my god.

1576
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:34,079
Speaker 4: Pizza, I love that.

1577
01:08:35,319 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 1: There's no fucking way Tony Gilroy's putting Palpatine in this

1578
01:08:38,319 --> 01:08:39,000
Star Wars show.

1579
01:08:39,399 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 7: And I'm inclined to believe you, But I just want

1580
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:44,079
to be optimistic and hope for it. But I'm not

1581
01:08:44,159 --> 01:08:46,680
gonna pizza bet you because in my heart I know

1582
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,399
it it's not gonna happen, but in my mind, I

1583
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,880
just want it to happen, because that'd just be so sick.

1584
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 4: I remember in The Bad Batch when he just came

1585
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,039
out of nowhere and you weren't expecting it.

1586
01:08:55,119 --> 01:08:57,199
Speaker 7: You get this quick five minute scene of him talking

1587
01:08:57,239 --> 01:08:58,479
all politically and evillly.

1588
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,399
Speaker 4: It's like, holy fuck, this is just incredible.

1589
01:09:01,399 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 7: So if we get that here a man Mathma is

1590
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,760
trying to like plead to the Senate like, oh, Palpatine

1591
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:09,039
did this ship and ordered an execution, ordered this execution

1592
01:09:09,199 --> 01:09:11,640
of this pro peaceful protest is a horrible masker. And

1593
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:13,479
then he just like you hear the bell ring and

1594
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,600
he comes up in his center platform and he just

1595
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:19,640
starts talking, Oh my god, oh sign me up.

1596
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: Sounds like you're signed up.

1597
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:26,319
Speaker 3: Cyril was in the trailer too, good old Cyril, Cyril.

1598
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he has that hard on for the.

1599
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:34,039
Speaker 7: I can't three episodes of him eating milk, and so

1600
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,279
I hope so they should.

1601
01:09:36,079 --> 01:09:39,600
Speaker 3: Just he became like a commander drug for me.

1602
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:43,319
Speaker 2: I hated that character initially, and then he just yeah,

1603
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:44,359
he's a commander now.

1604
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 1: In my no, no, no, always a commander.

1605
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,239
Speaker 4: But I guess we got k two s o as well,

1606
01:09:52,119 --> 01:09:55,479
popping in as the droid. We do cool.

1607
01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:00,600
Speaker 1: I'm excited for ah, let's see.

1608
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1609
01:10:01,079 --> 01:10:04,640
Speaker 1: Do you guys watching Eventual? Yeah Kirkland, you watch it incible?

1610
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 4: Right?

1611
01:10:05,199 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1612
01:10:06,079 --> 01:10:06,279
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1613
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:07,079
Speaker 1: Season one.

1614
01:10:09,119 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 5: Two or three episodes?

1615
01:10:10,239 --> 01:10:12,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I still watch. I haven't caught up the last episode,

1616
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:15,680
but I'm liking this season more than last season. Very

1617
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,680
good show so far. Animation is still a little man

1618
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:22,760
like people say, but I'm juiant. So uh so let's

1619
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:27,199
get into some about you know, one person to another. Uh.

1620
01:10:27,359 --> 01:10:29,239
The dc is slate so on Monday. I don't know

1621
01:10:29,279 --> 01:10:30,640
why they did this, but I think they're just like,

1622
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,039
we got to start talking because people are getting Nancy

1623
01:10:33,199 --> 01:10:35,279
like myself because we did a newscast, me and I

1624
01:10:35,279 --> 01:10:37,479
did weekly geeks. So it's funny that we did talking

1625
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:39,760
about like some issues we had with the DCU stuff

1626
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,560
going on. And then Monday they did this prece event

1627
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:43,640
where they announced a few things, but it was more

1628
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:47,319
of like, uh, you know what's going on? Which you

1629
01:10:47,399 --> 01:10:50,640
know what? And I will say this, actually is it

1630
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:51,760
called or quarreled?

1631
01:10:52,239 --> 01:10:57,319
Speaker 5: A lot of my concern professor at Quarrel, he's a quarrel.

1632
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:03,279
Speaker 1: This calmed some of my concerns because I respect that

1633
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,079
pretty much what they went out and they said that

1634
01:11:06,119 --> 01:11:08,720
they got a six year plan from Superman to now.

1635
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:11,840
There's a lot of things that I'm gonna go some

1636
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:13,760
points and if you'll have nothing to say, we'll move on.

1637
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:17,520
But they have very much stress that when we hear

1638
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,560
about movies, because there's movies that they talked about this

1639
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,000
president where they're like, oh and t Titans and even

1640
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:25,279
Saffron was like, yeah, Anna near Waga's writing that and

1641
01:11:25,399 --> 01:11:26,960
James like, well, we've never announced that. He's like, no,

1642
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,279
I'm pretty sure we have. And James like, no, that's

1643
01:11:29,359 --> 01:11:31,680
just Scoopers that got that we've never publicly said.

1644
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:32,359
Speaker 3: So he let it.

1645
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,319
Speaker 1: He let like a writer go accidentally. But I appreciate

1646
01:11:35,399 --> 01:11:38,239
that they said that. That stuff that like we talk

1647
01:11:38,319 --> 01:11:39,560
of all the time, like oh, they're doing this movie,

1648
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:41,640
doing this movie. That anything we hear from DC in

1649
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:45,159
the future, it's like in development. It doesn't mean it's

1650
01:11:45,199 --> 01:11:47,600
a sure thing James gonna stick in to. Like we're

1651
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,239
gonna have a plan and write a script and if

1652
01:11:50,279 --> 01:11:53,079
the script is great, we're gonna go through. That's why

1653
01:11:53,159 --> 01:11:55,800
Clay Face and Sergeant Rock, which weren't on the original site,

1654
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,479
are going through where like he was honest and said, like,

1655
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,359
oh stuff like authority. We've made a bunch of changes

1656
01:12:01,399 --> 01:12:02,760
and it just doesn't work, so we don't want to

1657
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,960
rush it. What was a Booster Gold because he said

1658
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,000
there's been a bunch of bumpy projects. But he said

1659
01:12:08,039 --> 01:12:10,680
Booster Gold. We had a showrunner and they just dropped

1660
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:11,640
out and said we didn't want to do it. So

1661
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,279
that's where that went. He said, the Waller Show, we're

1662
01:12:14,319 --> 01:12:18,439
making lots of script issues. What else was there? There

1663
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,560
was another there's another one of those. But I really

1664
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:25,239
appreciated that they were very candid and honest about this.

1665
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:29,720
So I a lot of the worries I had have

1666
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:31,680
a lot of fires been put in the water. But

1667
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:33,319
the one thing I will say, some we old point

1668
01:12:33,359 --> 01:12:34,600
by point here. Those were some of the things that

1669
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,439
they were talking about these projects that are like, yeah,

1670
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:38,600
this is why we're just we're not they don't want

1671
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:40,920
to stick to Hey, we've announced this and we have

1672
01:12:41,079 --> 01:12:42,520
to do it because we put it out there. I

1673
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:44,319
think I do like that because we've talked about like

1674
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,520
MCU's finally doing that with like war machines, whe they're like, yeah,

1675
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:49,479
you know what, this isn't a good idea. Let's not

1676
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,439
do this. We're before maybe they they would have been

1677
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,800
like we have to do this. But this is where

1678
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,359
I saw some worries. They said that they plan on

1679
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:01,560
having seven projects a year. Originally it was two movies,

1680
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:05,359
two shows, but now they're going with two live action movies, uh,

1681
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:11,000
one animated movie, two live action series, a live and

1682
01:13:11,079 --> 01:13:13,359
then I think it's like a live action animated or

1683
01:13:13,399 --> 01:13:17,279
so an animated show. Either way, seven projects, right, very messy.

1684
01:13:18,079 --> 01:13:21,920
I saw this Mike in the discord. If they James

1685
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,039
Guy the Fall of the DCU red, I thuon now,

1686
01:13:24,039 --> 01:13:25,720
I don't know what yet, but if it's all in

1687
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:30,640
the DCU, they Gun and Company and Saffron should know better,

1688
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:34,840
like look at MCU like like there's already too many projects.

1689
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:36,600
But yeah, Kirk, how do you feel about that? Seven

1690
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,920
projects a year? I'll say this again because I know

1691
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:42,600
it's word vomit. But two live action movies, one animated movie,

1692
01:13:43,079 --> 01:13:48,479
two live action series, an animated series, and then I

1693
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,680
don't know there's something else that's seven. I've sucked it

1694
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:51,000
up again.

1695
01:13:51,039 --> 01:13:52,680
Speaker 5: It's gonna be at least two animated series.

1696
01:13:53,199 --> 01:13:54,520
Speaker 1: I think that's what it is. Yeah, I think that's

1697
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:56,359
what it is. Yes, because those are a bit cheaper

1698
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:58,720
to make. But seven projects a year is their plan,

1699
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:00,920
and they did say that they do play in six

1700
01:14:01,079 --> 01:14:04,399
years to culminate in like an Avengers type of movie.

1701
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:05,960
My last one too, I guess before I throw the

1702
01:14:06,039 --> 01:14:08,439
use that he said they very much want to try

1703
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,479
to not make it the homework issue. So it sounds

1704
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:13,439
like they want to be like MC Phase one where

1705
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,800
yeah you had Cap Ironman, Thorn Hulk, but like they

1706
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:20,039
weren't super connected, right, little connections. Sounds like they want

1707
01:14:20,079 --> 01:14:22,119
the DCU to be that going forward. So it's like, oh,

1708
01:14:22,159 --> 01:14:24,319
why is clay Face happening right now? Just because they

1709
01:14:24,359 --> 01:14:25,720
think it's a good idea and they want to make it.

1710
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,960
They don't want a bunch of you got to watch

1711
01:14:28,039 --> 01:14:28,560
this to do this.

1712
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 6: So I know it's a lot there, but yeah, I

1713
01:14:31,079 --> 01:14:36,239
mean seven projects a year just for DCU, I feel

1714
01:14:36,239 --> 01:14:38,680
like that's a lot. And you know, as a podcast

1715
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,199
or someone that talks about these things, that's awesome. More coverage,

1716
01:14:42,319 --> 01:14:46,680
more discussions, I like it. It just seems like such

1717
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:48,840
a high number though, to like just out of the Gate,

1718
01:14:49,079 --> 01:14:52,119
like just that's our goal and that's what we're gonna

1719
01:14:52,119 --> 01:14:55,119
be sticking to. I feel like over two years, that

1720
01:14:55,319 --> 01:14:58,800
like makes a lot more sense. But yeah, I guess

1721
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:02,680
they're just up in the ante and it's uh. I

1722
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,880
I don't know how it's gonna feel natural and like,

1723
01:15:08,039 --> 01:15:10,439
like even for a DC fan, I feel like it's

1724
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:13,840
gonna be tough to like follow all of that, like

1725
01:15:14,039 --> 01:15:16,399
seven projects a year when and especially if it is

1726
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:19,840
an animated show and then like a live action, Like

1727
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:22,319
it seems like it's gonna be covering like a wide

1728
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:24,680
range even though it is all under the DC banner,

1729
01:15:25,079 --> 01:15:28,479
so to get that, although they don't want to make

1730
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,479
it like homework, it kind of is, you know, like

1731
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:35,079
if you really want to get all of the lead up,

1732
01:15:35,199 --> 01:15:37,760
like you're gonna be doing that. So if, like you said,

1733
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:39,279
a couple of years down the road, they're like, it's

1734
01:15:39,319 --> 01:15:42,840
all gonna be aligning to this, it's just hard for

1735
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:46,000
me to really see it looking natural and clean and

1736
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:50,560
uh without things being canceled and issues, because even just

1737
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,800
getting a project out has issues, right, Like it's like

1738
01:15:54,039 --> 01:15:57,359
many things we just talked about, the whole Disney thing

1739
01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:59,920
or sorry not Disney Oh yeah, I guess Lucas Phill

1740
01:16:00,159 --> 01:16:03,359
and Star Wars and how many things were promised and

1741
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:05,960
many things were not seen by us or by any anyone.

1742
01:16:06,079 --> 01:16:09,640
So yeah, no, that's just my initial thoughts and uh

1743
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:13,800
but as a glutton for content, like, yeah, seven seven projects,

1744
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:14,119
let's go.

1745
01:16:15,319 --> 01:16:17,399
Speaker 1: And I do think it's smart for them to clarify that.

1746
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,119
They said, like, unless we announce this in production, don't

1747
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:22,399
take it as yeah, like to kind of like we

1748
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,039
talk about with Star Wars, they'd always say like, hey,

1749
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:26,239
we're doing a ray movie, and what would always bug

1750
01:16:26,279 --> 01:16:28,840
me is they would announce it and they're still meaning

1751
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,920
they don't even have the script done stage, Like yes,

1752
01:16:33,119 --> 01:16:35,800
that's that's what bugs me. Where I like that. They

1753
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,319
even said with Flannagan that he pitched them on clay face.

1754
01:16:38,399 --> 01:16:41,119
They said, no, he wrote a script. I'm assuming he

1755
01:16:41,199 --> 01:16:43,479
wrote a script during the strike. I'm not gonna say

1756
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:44,720
he did, but it's just like they're like, oh, and

1757
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:46,119
then he turned it into script, so I'm just like

1758
01:16:46,159 --> 01:16:48,359
he had some downtime put and like, this is a

1759
01:16:48,399 --> 01:16:51,199
great script, We're gonna do it. And then they announced, Hey,

1760
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:53,840
this is actually going into production in the fall, like

1761
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:55,960
it's happening. We're all these other like we talk on

1762
01:16:56,039 --> 01:16:58,600
these rumors and stuff, but again that's not stuff they like.

1763
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:00,439
Me and Taylor talked about last week that Daniel Craig

1764
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:03,520
dropped as Sergeant Rock. Like you said, they've never officially

1765
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:07,840
ever they there's nothing gun Saffron DC relay them saying hey,

1766
01:17:08,119 --> 01:17:10,159
Sergeant Rock is coming. It's just stuff that because it's

1767
01:17:10,159 --> 01:17:12,199
the way we the world works now, right that all

1768
01:17:12,239 --> 01:17:14,960
these scoopers, they they get charts and they get casting,

1769
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:16,439
so it's like stuff that you don't even want out there.

1770
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:18,800
We're Star Wars. That's what bugs me. It's like, don't

1771
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,520
officially announce the Ray movie till it's like we're good

1772
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:23,399
to go, we're locked and loaded, which they've done with

1773
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:23,960
many right.

1774
01:17:24,159 --> 01:17:27,600
Speaker 5: So mm hmmm, yeah, I mean I have a you know,

1775
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:29,479
I'm not gonna I don't have my own hashtag like

1776
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,880
Travis told you, but I feel like I'm gonna do

1777
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:33,760
the Dylan told you here because I feel like since

1778
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,479
this thing was announced, I was like, this is far

1779
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,720
too you know, bold and brave to use the Batman

1780
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,159
naming scheme to come out here at the gate without

1781
01:17:42,199 --> 01:17:45,560
anything in production at all, and announce all these things. Uh,

1782
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:48,159
and there's gonna be connectivity between the animated shows, and

1783
01:17:48,159 --> 01:17:49,840
they're gonna do the voice actors, and they're gonna come

1784
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:51,840
into live action. It's gonna be seamless and perfect, and

1785
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,640
all these things are gonna happen. I was like, no chance,

1786
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:56,840
Like that's just not it's not gonna be as easy

1787
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,359
as they envision it, which clearly has been the case

1788
01:17:59,359 --> 01:18:01,239
if they can't get you know, writers to stay in

1789
01:18:01,279 --> 01:18:03,079
the room long enough to write some of these things.

1790
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,039
And I think now, especially like up in the ante

1791
01:18:06,119 --> 01:18:10,680
to seven, just seems like even even crazier. So I

1792
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:14,000
don't know, I like, we still haven't even gotten Superman yet,

1793
01:18:14,079 --> 01:18:16,199
you know, Like I guess it's kicked off now with

1794
01:18:16,279 --> 01:18:19,000
Creature Commandos. But and then you know, all of this

1795
01:18:19,359 --> 01:18:24,520
is built on the foundation of like WB's incredibly shaky

1796
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,000
foundation which at any moment could just slip out from

1797
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:28,520
out of them and cast all this stuff anyway, which

1798
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,560
feels like six year plan really, Like, I guess it's

1799
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:33,000
good to have to think about the future, but at

1800
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,159
the same time, you think that's gonna last that long.

1801
01:18:35,199 --> 01:18:36,399
We'll have to wait and see it, And it's like

1802
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:38,800
kind of outside their control to some extent too, unless

1803
01:18:39,119 --> 01:18:41,119
their movies are all just huge billion dollar movies and

1804
01:18:41,159 --> 01:18:43,479
all these shows make a shit ton of money. But

1805
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:45,039
I don't even know how shows make money. Really, I

1806
01:18:45,039 --> 01:18:47,239
don't understand the economics of all that. It's hard to

1807
01:18:47,279 --> 01:18:50,279
follo those sometimes. But yeah, I don't know. This is uh,

1808
01:18:51,119 --> 01:18:53,960
not really surprising to me. I guess I've always liked

1809
01:18:54,039 --> 01:18:56,000
the transparency, But at the same time, I think it

1810
01:18:56,119 --> 01:18:58,880
could lead to some bad blood with people who are

1811
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:00,960
really excited about these things. You know, the world's number

1812
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:03,359
one booster gold fan. Holy shit, I'm finally getting a movie.

1813
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:05,199
I can't believe they announced that and then it just

1814
01:19:05,319 --> 01:19:07,960
gets pulled out for really no, like this, that's not

1815
01:19:08,039 --> 01:19:09,760
really good reason, Like oh, the writer kind of just

1816
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:11,960
said give up on it. Like that sounds like you,

1817
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,239
we're not pretty much effort in that project. If like

1818
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:16,600
it was that easy for it to fall apart. I'm

1819
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:18,399
sure there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes,

1820
01:19:18,399 --> 01:19:20,760
of course, but yeah, I don't know. We'll have to

1821
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:23,760
wait and see, But I don't buy it. I don't

1822
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,439
think it's gonna go off as smoothly as they expect.

1823
01:19:27,159 --> 01:19:29,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I appreciate them being honest, but they also

1824
01:19:29,199 --> 01:19:31,680
don't need to say seven projects, right they because like

1825
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:33,600
if things don't make it stay, I'm sure they won't

1826
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,560
hit that all the time, right but just I guess

1827
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:37,279
maybe just put out what you're gonna put out. But

1828
01:19:37,359 --> 01:19:39,079
I don't know, maybe it's just higher reps as well too,

1829
01:19:39,159 --> 01:19:41,039
saying we need you to have a quota of this,

1830
01:19:41,319 --> 01:19:42,239
this and this, you know.

1831
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:45,199
Speaker 5: And yeah that the no homework thing. To Kirkland's point,

1832
01:19:45,279 --> 01:19:49,039
like so we're getting seven things a year for five

1833
01:19:49,199 --> 01:19:50,720
to six years before we get so we're there'll be

1834
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:53,920
about thirty to forty projects in between these, like team

1835
01:19:54,039 --> 01:19:56,000
up things well health.

1836
01:19:56,159 --> 01:19:59,039
Speaker 1: I think they're planning. So I think their plan what

1837
01:19:59,199 --> 01:20:01,640
they are gonna try do, which I wish the MCU

1838
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:03,720
would do, is something like Clay Flace, like you won't

1839
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:06,119
have to watch at all period. Like they're just like,

1840
01:20:06,359 --> 01:20:08,560
we want to make a monster movie for forty million

1841
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,880
dollars and that's like a cheap movie we can put

1842
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:12,760
out during Halloween. Boom done. Like I think they do

1843
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:14,399
plan to have many of those where it is six

1844
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:16,760
to seven, but it's like, how like right now, I

1845
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:18,880
guess MSU kind of did. Like with Moon Night Right,

1846
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:20,680
you don't have to, but at the time we're like, well,

1847
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:23,199
where's Moon Night playing everything. I think they don't want

1848
01:20:23,239 --> 01:20:25,079
to make it, Like I think Justice League will probably

1849
01:20:25,159 --> 01:20:28,399
just be your like Avengers, where hey watch these you

1850
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:30,239
could watch these four, but like you don't have to.

1851
01:20:30,399 --> 01:20:33,119
You don't have to watch Guardians right to watch Avengers two.

1852
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:35,039
They have nothing to do. But I think that's what

1853
01:20:35,079 --> 01:20:38,800
they're trying to do. Like overall, a spob says, that

1854
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,000
means we're gonna be get fifteen DCU projects in time

1855
01:20:41,079 --> 01:20:44,800
between Batman's Reeves movies, which you know what again, gun

1856
01:20:45,039 --> 01:20:48,960
they did again. I appreciate the clarification after the delay

1857
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:51,840
and everything. Obviously they could just be lying and just

1858
01:20:52,079 --> 01:20:54,039
bullshit us, but they said, like, hey, that's not our

1859
01:20:54,119 --> 01:20:56,399
plan to make him the Batman. We're doing our own thing.

1860
01:20:57,079 --> 01:20:59,039
And I've said before, as long as I get the Batman,

1861
01:20:59,239 --> 01:21:00,680
I don't really give a fuck what they do with

1862
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:02,279
the DCU. They can do whatever they want. Does that

1863
01:21:02,359 --> 01:21:04,439
Reeves finish his stuff? But they said they have no plans.

1864
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:06,960
I think what is interesting before I throw the Taylor

1865
01:21:07,079 --> 01:21:09,199
is they said they're working on the script and the

1866
01:21:09,279 --> 01:21:12,159
first person to see the script will be Andy Andy Mushet,

1867
01:21:12,279 --> 01:21:14,439
who is the director of Braving the Bold, which to

1868
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:17,560
me makes very little sense that he's like, has very

1869
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:20,319
little connection with this project until they finish the script.

1870
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,039
I'm just saying, he ain't directing this movie, and I

1871
01:21:23,159 --> 01:21:25,119
think it'll be someone else. It could even be James

1872
01:21:25,199 --> 01:21:27,680
gun because Jamis Gunn says he loves Batman and he's

1873
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,880
working on something and yet da there's even talks of

1874
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,239
like no talks with people just wondering if he's doing

1875
01:21:33,239 --> 01:21:36,119
a Batman Superman moving like a team up and he's

1876
01:21:36,199 --> 01:21:38,760
not doing this. But I'm happy that Pattison is not,

1877
01:21:39,119 --> 01:21:41,720
uh not doing that. And uh yeah, they announced like

1878
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:45,680
a Green Lantern animated show. They announced a Starfire animated show. Yeah,

1879
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:47,680
they confirmed that Teen Titans film. So there's some stuff

1880
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:50,239
they did confirm here. But Tay, what do you take

1881
01:21:50,319 --> 01:21:52,479
from uh all the do you think? Do you think

1882
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,000
James Gunn just he just is like, no, no one

1883
01:21:55,039 --> 01:21:56,319
else can do this. So I'm gonna direct it.

1884
01:21:56,359 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 7: I did Creature Commandos, I directed Superman, I'll direct Batman,

1885
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:00,600
Brave in the Bold, Supergirl.

1886
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna direct all of it.

1887
01:22:02,199 --> 01:22:05,680
Speaker 7: I think with uh not not he didn't do Supergirl

1888
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:08,279
Supergirls halfway through pretty I'm saying, I'm saying he'll just

1889
01:22:08,359 --> 01:22:08,760
take over.

1890
01:22:09,199 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 1: No, he said that script's going well, like he said,

1891
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:13,880
the production's going well, that's gonna be ready for next year.

1892
01:22:14,319 --> 01:22:15,960
I think the ones that he will be a part

1893
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:19,520
of Creature Commandos was just like like whatever, he just

1894
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:21,439
did that because he just wanted That's what James gun

1895
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:24,520
isn't thing. I think anybody that is in that Just

1896
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:27,359
League movie, that's where he could step in. Where it

1897
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:29,840
is Superman, Batman, I don't know where the fuck Wonder

1898
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,439
Woman is. Obviously we'll talk on Monday about the game.

1899
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:35,239
But like even in general, like canceled, you should probably

1900
01:22:35,279 --> 01:22:37,960
be getting that that thing going. I'm already said the

1901
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,640
six year plan and no video games. James Gunn did

1902
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:42,800
say expect something in the next couple of years. I

1903
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,000
think Warner Brothers Games is just a mess right now.

1904
01:22:45,159 --> 01:22:48,600
So I feel like James Gunn, like I get the

1905
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:50,640
film thing under control and then worry about the game.

1906
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:52,079
Speaker 5: He doesn't really have anything to do with that r.

1907
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:55,399
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1908
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 1: Because he does. He doesn't know, but I know he

1909
01:22:57,920 --> 01:22:59,840
said that they're gonna make games for the DCU. So

1910
01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:03,159
I don't know what that partakes, but they're just like, yeah,

1911
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:06,479
just wait on that. Warner Brothers Games fucking release.

1912
01:23:06,319 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 4: A new roadmap for Kill the Justice League game or anything.

1913
01:23:09,319 --> 01:23:12,039
Speaker 5: We're getting to ten projects a year. Everyone had some

1914
01:23:12,159 --> 01:23:13,279
games in there, good to go.

1915
01:23:14,039 --> 01:23:18,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, but here continue Hi, So I can answer your question.

1916
01:23:18,079 --> 01:23:20,319
He'll do that with the important projects if he feels

1917
01:23:20,359 --> 01:23:21,279
it's not working out.

1918
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:22,199
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1919
01:23:23,199 --> 01:23:27,399
Speaker 7: I think his transparency and his bluntness just address that, Hey,

1920
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:29,880
this is how it is with these projects, and that's great.

1921
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:33,720
That's wonderful. I think other companies could look at that

1922
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:35,159
and learn a thing or two.

1923
01:23:37,199 --> 01:23:39,039
Speaker 4: Disney, I would love to know.

1924
01:23:39,279 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 1: I would love to just sit by you down and

1925
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:44,600
be like, why was marshally announced in twenty nineteen.

1926
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:47,159
Speaker 4: And here we are, you know, and have James Gun

1927
01:23:47,239 --> 01:23:48,159
in the room with you when he.

1928
01:23:48,359 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 1: Breaks down, Like, honestly, that's not their biggest thing. But

1929
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:56,680
I would love to ask those though this particulars, but

1930
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,159
they don't. Right we're gone. That is something he is

1931
01:23:59,199 --> 01:23:59,920
doing a bit differently.

1932
01:24:00,119 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 4: So mm hmm.

1933
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,079
Speaker 7: The plethora though, of projects that are gonna be coming out,

1934
01:24:05,199 --> 01:24:08,439
I am just overwhelmed. I mean, I'm totally okay with

1935
01:24:09,319 --> 01:24:12,199
you know, two a year, sure, I'll be greedy, but

1936
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:13,359
one a year.

1937
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:15,039
Speaker 4: Totally works for me.

1938
01:24:15,359 --> 01:24:17,560
Speaker 7: Like holy smoke, I don't need like on and on

1939
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:19,399
and on and on like a show and a t

1940
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:23,199
and a movie. That's totally fine. But I mean, clearly

1941
01:24:23,279 --> 01:24:25,359
they have some goals and clearly they want to make

1942
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:29,039
up for lost time. And what happens is some of

1943
01:24:29,079 --> 01:24:31,520
these projects bomb. I don't think Superman is gonna bomb,

1944
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,479
but what happens if Superman doesn't do very well?

1945
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,640
Speaker 4: And is that going to kind of rock the boat

1946
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:38,159
a little bit?

1947
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:42,239
Speaker 1: If Superman if that bombs or disappoints, I think it's

1948
01:24:42,239 --> 01:24:44,079
actually just over. I think it's just they go back,

1949
01:24:44,159 --> 01:24:45,439
Like I think this is all I think it is.

1950
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:47,279
I think they'll do like, oh, I think Reeves will

1951
01:24:47,279 --> 01:24:48,920
be fine, but I think they'll just go back to

1952
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:51,319
We'll just do a project here and there. I don't

1953
01:24:51,319 --> 01:24:53,680
think Superman is gonna bomb, but I think that's what happened.

1954
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:55,479
But like to answer your question, that's why you make

1955
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:58,520
clay face for fourty million dollars, right, Like that helps you?

1956
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:01,119
That's right? Oh, well, this is a two hundred and

1957
01:25:01,119 --> 01:25:03,800
fifty dollars move two hundred and fifty million, like Joker too, right,

1958
01:25:04,279 --> 01:25:06,279
like that, look what happened there? So if you make

1959
01:25:06,359 --> 01:25:10,119
clay Face for forty million, easy, Sergeant Rock forty sixty million,

1960
01:25:10,239 --> 01:25:11,800
Like I don't know if anyone wants to sarge at

1961
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:14,640
Rock movie. But like you know, Green Lanterns is a

1962
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,319
TV show on HBO Max, you know or HBO Sorry,

1963
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:21,640
just HBO. So so Mike says the Superman two happens,

1964
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:24,000
Does gun do it or pass it off? I think

1965
01:25:24,039 --> 01:25:26,880
he definitely does it. But I think I do agree

1966
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:29,199
with the rumors because he says he's writing something. It's

1967
01:25:29,279 --> 01:25:32,159
not announced. He just says it's connected to Superman. I

1968
01:25:32,319 --> 01:25:34,239
do think he is. Because that's the other thing too

1969
01:25:34,279 --> 01:25:36,760
with the Batman. He said, well, you might see the

1970
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:39,920
Batman before Raven Bold. I guess you could have him

1971
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:41,800
in clay Face. There's a chance. But I think you

1972
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:45,439
will get a Batman Superman movie and it's gonna be

1973
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:48,000
called World's Finest and that you'll have the team up first.

1974
01:25:48,039 --> 01:25:50,399
And I'm gonna laugh if it makes a billion dollars.

1975
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:53,119
And because the whole thing about BVS not making a

1976
01:25:53,199 --> 01:25:54,960
billion dollars, I don't know if it would, but I

1977
01:25:55,399 --> 01:25:57,439
think that's his next project. But my point is, I

1978
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:00,960
think Superman two is like after the sixty plan, unless

1979
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:02,079
it's a massive movie.

1980
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:04,279
Speaker 4: What was the company he said about Batman, you'd see

1981
01:26:04,279 --> 01:26:04,680
it before.

1982
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:06,680
Speaker 1: He said, there's a chance you'll see him before Brayball,

1983
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:07,319
because what did.

1984
01:26:07,239 --> 01:26:09,119
Speaker 4: They said that before? After Creature Commandos?

1985
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:11,039
Speaker 1: He said this, like it on Monday?

1986
01:26:11,119 --> 01:26:14,039
Speaker 7: Oh just oh okay, now gonna say like Creature Commandos

1987
01:26:14,039 --> 01:26:15,920
already proves his point because.

1988
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:17,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's in there. But I think people said like

1989
01:26:17,359 --> 01:26:20,479
would because he said they're not gonna, which was also interesting.

1990
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:22,319
He said he's working at the writing braid of the Bowl.

1991
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:24,199
He said he would not reveal the writer because there'd

1992
01:26:24,199 --> 01:26:26,000
be too much pressure on them. So I'm very curious

1993
01:26:26,039 --> 01:26:27,800
who is writing Brave.

1994
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:28,119
Speaker 4: In the Bold.

1995
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 1: I mean maybe legitimate or Peter Saffer And he's like,

1996
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,039
I'm gonna write my first movie and that's gonna be Batman.

1997
01:26:34,199 --> 01:26:36,720
But no, I think some report asked about clay Face

1998
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:38,680
and he said, like, there's a chance you'd see Batman before.

1999
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:40,760
I think it's because they have no idea when Braving

2000
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:42,760
the Bull is, and I think they just have I

2001
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:44,960
think it's all Matt Reeves, because unfortunately, he did say

2002
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,600
that Matt Reeves still hasn't turned the script yet for

2003
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:50,720
the Batman, and Matt's, you know, take taking his time,

2004
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:52,359
he's cooking. But I think that's the problem. They have

2005
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,159
no idea when this Batman movie is. So it's like

2006
01:26:55,319 --> 01:26:57,319
like they got to get Batman in there at some point,

2007
01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:59,399
right and cast Glen Palell so.

2008
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 5: Mm hmm, give me some points.

2009
01:27:02,239 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, give you some points for sure. So all right,

2010
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:07,680
let's take, yeah, last a break, and then we'll be

2011
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:12,520
back with some daredevils. We'll be right back. Ah right,

2012
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:14,920
and we're back and quickly before we ah.

2013
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 6: Do it.

2014
01:27:17,199 --> 01:27:21,119
Speaker 1: I guess I can't just quick quickly today they or

2015
01:27:21,119 --> 01:27:22,880
I guess a couple of days ago whenever, during the

2016
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:24,920
press for Daredevil, they announced that they are doing a

2017
01:27:25,199 --> 01:27:28,000
special presentation for Punish or they're bringing those back. We

2018
01:27:28,159 --> 01:27:30,319
kind of thought those were dead, but they're doing that.

2019
01:27:31,079 --> 01:27:34,039
It's gonna be starring John Burthall. He's also co writing it.

2020
01:27:34,399 --> 01:27:36,399
They actually got a guy that I can't remember his name,

2021
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:38,520
He directed King Richard So a guy that's co writing

2022
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:42,600
directing it as an Oscar like film producing guy. So

2023
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,239
there's a lot of stuff behind here, no idea of runtime,

2024
01:27:45,279 --> 01:27:47,000
but they did say it's gonna come out next year.

2025
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:50,880
They said alongside Daredevil season two, which Daredevil season two

2026
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:52,840
is confirmed for next year. I don't know if that

2027
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,479
means like literally at the same time or like a

2028
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:58,880
before or after, but yeah, because we're talk about Daredevil,

2029
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:00,920
thought we bring some news here, But yeah, Punisher getting

2030
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:05,560
a special presentation. Dylan as my former Netflix Marvel reviewer boy.

2031
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:08,680
Obviously we reviewed the first two and now obviosly not

2032
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:10,359
a show. I think we're not gonna a show because

2033
01:28:10,359 --> 01:28:12,399
I think birth Ball's just like I think he's too

2034
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:14,760
busy now to do like that, you know, thirteen to

2035
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:17,439
nine episode thing. Even Daredevil, I doubt I think he's

2036
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:19,000
in there for a couple episodes. But I think this

2037
01:28:19,119 --> 01:28:21,680
is just like he's in an old movie now and

2038
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:23,840
he's like doing all this. He's in the account two

2039
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:26,439
coming up, which almost drafted. But how do you feel

2040
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:29,159
about a special presentation for the Punisher?

2041
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:32,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, I really thought those were dead. I didn't think

2042
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:35,479
we were going to get any more special presentations, and

2043
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:38,760
I'm trying to think I guess it was. Was it

2044
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:41,319
twenty twenty three Christmas when we got the Guardians one

2045
01:28:41,399 --> 01:28:44,720
or was it twenty two? Must have been twenty twenty three, right, I.

2046
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 1: Think it's twenty twenty two, maybe because Guardians came on

2047
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:48,840
May twenty twenty three, So I think it was twenty

2048
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:53,039
twenty two when we got that, right, that would make sense.

2049
01:28:53,239 --> 01:28:54,960
You get it, You get it, Yeah, because Guardians came

2050
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:55,680
out in May. That.

2051
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, those are big time flies.

2052
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:00,720
Speaker 1: So you're searching out it, you're looking at porn.

2053
01:29:01,319 --> 01:29:03,079
Speaker 4: He's twenty twenty two, same as well.

2054
01:29:03,239 --> 01:29:06,560
Speaker 1: By night. Okay, that was right. Okay, so we got

2055
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:08,720
that one year of specials and they're like, we're done,

2056
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:09,479
we're not doing it.

2057
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:12,720
Speaker 5: But yeah, wow, it's been a long time since we've

2058
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:15,439
got one or even heard, like we've heard a couple

2059
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:18,119
of little pieces of chatter, but like nothing really meaningful,

2060
01:29:18,199 --> 01:29:20,840
nothing from like the top tier Scoopers. So this is

2061
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:21,560
pretty exciting.

2062
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:24,479
Speaker 1: Oh this is from the head of Marvel TV. It's

2063
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:27,560
not Scoopers. It's like confirmed, it's like it's happening.

2064
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 5: Very exciting. Yeah, no, that's that's that's really great. I

2065
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,319
think as you mentioned, like he he's in a different

2066
01:29:33,319 --> 01:29:35,159
spot in his career than he was back in those

2067
01:29:35,279 --> 01:29:38,199
days when he was doing ghost recon and random stuff.

2068
01:29:38,199 --> 01:29:39,239
Speaker 4: Now this is a busy man.

2069
01:29:39,319 --> 01:29:42,239
Speaker 5: Okay, he just knows time for Domesto.

2070
01:29:42,039 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 1: Stage with this dog.

2071
01:29:43,119 --> 01:29:47,319
Speaker 5: Remember, Yeah, all he's got going for his fifty minute

2072
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:50,359
or probably a thirty three minute long special with credits

2073
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:53,479
uh in there. But I think it's cool that if

2074
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:55,880
it's gonna time up with season two of Daredevil in

2075
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,439
some way, I'm really excited to see what that connection is.

2076
01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:00,960
Hopefully he's in that first season at least for some

2077
01:30:01,119 --> 01:30:03,199
juicy bits, so we have some stuff to break down.

2078
01:30:03,239 --> 01:30:05,960
It's not just like some meaningful cameover. He pops up

2079
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:08,640
for one second, says you doing red, and then like

2080
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:11,359
backs off and then we never see him again. But yeah,

2081
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:13,359
I think that's cool, and I think maybe it shows

2082
01:30:13,399 --> 01:30:16,840
that this character could be a bigger deal for this

2083
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:19,479
era of Marvel. We'll see. We've talked about like what

2084
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:22,199
a Marvel Knight's thing. Is that something they would go

2085
01:30:22,319 --> 01:30:25,079
midnight suns like that kind of space. Is that something

2086
01:30:25,079 --> 01:30:27,079
they would do And maybe that's where he would pop

2087
01:30:27,159 --> 01:30:28,800
in for like a movie or something, if they're building

2088
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:31,439
up to something like that, and maybe Daredevil is truly

2089
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:33,880
the thing that's gonna like kick off that potential thing

2090
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:37,359
we'll see. So yeah, I think that's very exciting. I'm

2091
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:40,000
looking forward to that. I'm sure he's gonna sure he's

2092
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:40,880
gonna crush it in there.

2093
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:44,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, just because obviously there's some credits, and they're always

2094
01:30:44,399 --> 01:30:47,560
marveled their credits. But I think the Holy Special was shorter,

2095
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:50,079
but We're by Night was fifty three minutes. If we

2096
01:30:50,159 --> 01:30:52,680
can get that same run time for this, because like us,

2097
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:54,520
the point out if it's a special presentation not just

2098
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:56,439
a movie, probably like an hour long, unless it's just

2099
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:59,760
straight to Disney plus movie and they call special special presentation,

2100
01:31:00,199 --> 01:31:02,279
I would love that. But I think the good thing

2101
01:31:02,319 --> 01:31:04,640
with like Punisher is kind of the perfect character of

2102
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:07,680
like he's out in New York, there's a criminal Orgain

2103
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:10,600
he's gonna take down, and it's just like an action er.

2104
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:13,039
Like I think you can have some emotional stuff, but

2105
01:31:13,079 --> 01:31:15,159
I think say that for the shows and everything, I

2106
01:31:15,239 --> 01:31:18,199
think this should be like Punisher with like or s

2107
01:31:18,399 --> 01:31:20,920
john Wick with Punisher where it's he's on a you know,

2108
01:31:21,039 --> 01:31:21,479
not on a hit.

2109
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:24,159
Speaker 5: Because obviously Punisher versus Sidewinder, maybe that could be a

2110
01:31:24,199 --> 01:31:25,159
good it's get.

2111
01:31:25,119 --> 01:31:27,119
Speaker 1: John Carlo in there. You know, that'd be great. But

2112
01:31:27,359 --> 01:31:30,840
I think this is fantastic. My wish obviously would be

2113
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:32,800
a season. But the same way I've always said this,

2114
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:35,439
like what I do, like what James Gunn is doing

2115
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:37,359
with the like the clay Face thing. I would love

2116
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:39,119
they do this. It's a hit, and they're like, yeah,

2117
01:31:39,199 --> 01:31:42,520
we're gonna make a thirty to fifty million Punisher movie

2118
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:44,439
and put that out because always the MC movies are

2119
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:46,640
always like one hundred and fifty million plus, Like it'd

2120
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:48,359
be great. I like, hey, we're gonna put out this

2121
01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:52,920
Punisher movie in like October, November, like somewhere, like well

2122
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:55,239
even February. Again, I know February is not going good

2123
01:31:55,239 --> 01:31:57,960
for CAP right now, but I hope this does well

2124
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:00,479
because I would need more. You know, I don't know

2125
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:03,279
if I can for sure say this, but I don't

2126
01:32:03,279 --> 01:32:05,119
feel bad saying John Berthall, I think is a top

2127
01:32:05,239 --> 01:32:07,960
five like casting to me for a comic book character,

2128
01:32:08,039 --> 01:32:10,720
Like he is just Frank Castle, so he's the perfect

2129
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:13,399
character to be special presentation. Plus like We're Off by Night,

2130
01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:15,680
where I think you can make it rateed R and

2131
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:18,159
it's not as bad becaus like well, it's only fifty

2132
01:32:18,199 --> 01:32:20,039
three minutes to an hour, or maybe they don't want to.

2133
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:23,319
I know they say Daredevil's tvm A, let's wait till

2134
01:32:23,319 --> 01:32:24,600
we actually see it, but I don't know if they

2135
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:26,840
want to do that. And Punish is a bit more

2136
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:30,479
of a controversial character. So it's just music to my ears.

2137
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:33,920
But I said this in the Discord boys because Tear asked, oh,

2138
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:36,399
should we do this? You never know? Wait, can we

2139
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:39,760
expect a Punish your season one and season two Red

2140
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:41,319
show in the next twelve to.

2141
01:32:41,359 --> 01:32:43,680
Speaker 7: Sixteen we have to watch Defenders to fill in like

2142
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:47,560
well less episode only eisodes.

2143
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to rewatch Daredevil with Defenders this time. No,

2144
01:32:51,279 --> 01:32:53,479
he is not a Defender, so you're in the clear. There.

2145
01:32:53,560 --> 01:33:02,600
Speaker 6: Oh so I'm tired, boss, I mean, I'm I'm tempted.

2146
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:05,479
I it's funny because the same thing with Okay, there you.

2147
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:06,359
Speaker 4: Go confirm we're doing.

2148
01:33:06,399 --> 01:33:08,399
Speaker 5: It's funny.

2149
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:10,800
Speaker 6: Similar for me with like the first time we'd watched

2150
01:33:11,239 --> 01:33:13,159
or first time I watched Daredevil, I only made it

2151
01:33:13,239 --> 01:33:15,520
through like a I think halfway through the first season,

2152
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:18,119
and then same thing for Punisher. Actually I think I

2153
01:33:18,239 --> 01:33:20,520
made it halfway through that first season, so it'll be

2154
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:25,199
an interesting revisit, but especially just going through Daredevil again

2155
01:33:25,319 --> 01:33:29,359
and like seeing that character and the casting, and since then,

2156
01:33:29,399 --> 01:33:33,479
I've seen John Berhal in other things and yeah, he's

2157
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:37,319
he's just so fantastic and just taking the baton here.

2158
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:39,760
I think this is just such a great place to

2159
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:43,199
have the Punisher because it's a tricky character to just

2160
01:33:43,239 --> 01:33:45,840
squeeze into a project, because he is so extreme and

2161
01:33:46,079 --> 01:33:49,239
so different than I think, especially like just other MCU

2162
01:33:49,319 --> 01:33:51,399
things that are going on right now. We have we

2163
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:54,199
have killers, you know in the MCU, but like it's

2164
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:58,880
not really a character like this, Yeah, exactly, So like

2165
01:33:59,039 --> 01:34:04,159
wonder Man, it's just a different caliber of just brutality.

2166
01:34:04,199 --> 01:34:07,399
And I think, especially pulling from the fact that we've

2167
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:10,039
seen him already, like like he has his own show

2168
01:34:10,119 --> 01:34:12,039
and we've seen him in Daredel and just seen the

2169
01:34:12,199 --> 01:34:15,239
level of the brutality has in my mind picturing where

2170
01:34:15,279 --> 01:34:18,479
he would fit in an MCU project. It's like they

2171
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:20,000
would have to nerve him, they would they would have

2172
01:34:20,119 --> 01:34:21,479
to take down a lot of the blood and what

2173
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:23,920
makes that character what he is. So I wouldn't want

2174
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:27,239
to do that. Where's a special presentation? Uh yeah, like

2175
01:34:27,319 --> 01:34:29,640
you mentioned were fin night like that that had blood.

2176
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:33,199
You know, it's a little gray in there, but yeah, no,

2177
01:34:33,359 --> 01:34:36,399
it's like like it has viciousness to it. And I

2178
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:40,119
think the special presentations are just a nice little it's

2179
01:34:40,159 --> 01:34:43,920
like a little pocket dimension, you know, in doctor Strange terms,

2180
01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:46,199
where like we can just we can just do a

2181
01:34:46,319 --> 01:34:49,800
story and not really feel like we have to tie

2182
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:53,239
to anything. But also it's there, it's still in the MCU,

2183
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:55,159
so we can pull from it if if, if we

2184
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:57,520
if we want to. So yeah, I think this is

2185
01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:00,600
super super exciting. Not when I ever would have assumed

2186
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:04,640
we'd be getting in terms of special presentations, but it

2187
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:07,399
makes sense. And now now that we're like jumping into

2188
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:09,640
Da Devil born again and just like other characters that

2189
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:12,800
he might be an inner interacting with, it's a it's

2190
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:16,039
a nice period and midnight suns are always you know,

2191
01:35:16,319 --> 01:35:20,279
in the in the stars somewhere. I'm a plaid movie

2192
01:35:20,319 --> 01:35:22,399
that's never gonna happen, but a character that could crossover.

2193
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:24,600
Speaker 1: Just give us special at this point, My god, just

2194
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:27,079
get him, Just get him in their coach, you know, please,

2195
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:30,840
says he'll be shooting namelessly. Ji creatures Gabe with gray

2196
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:33,600
blood and who said in Secret Wars, I'm down. I'd

2197
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:35,720
love it if he was in. At one point he

2198
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:39,479
does get the war Machine suit Frank Castle and fuck yeah,

2199
01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:42,119
like I would. It's got the Punisher logo on and everything,

2200
01:35:42,279 --> 01:35:45,760
like I love John Burtha up there with like, oh man,

2201
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:47,199
that would be no crime.

2202
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:49,359
Speaker 3: Better better not to be doing any crime.

2203
01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:51,760
Speaker 5: Machine putting on the record. I don't want that.

2204
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 1: I don't you don't want, you don't want.

2205
01:35:54,159 --> 01:35:56,600
Speaker 5: I don't want him in the freaking war machine suit. No,

2206
01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:58,560
I want him on the ground, boots on the ground.

2207
01:35:59,079 --> 01:36:02,079
Speaker 1: He still does just trous along quicker, you know, but

2208
01:36:02,199 --> 01:36:03,000
fair enough, fair.

2209
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 5: Enough, too much scroll associations now with that's.

2210
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:09,199
Speaker 1: Fair to what Kirkland said. That is one thing surprised

2211
01:36:09,239 --> 01:36:11,840
me that they didn't. They must be confident. They didn't

2212
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:14,479
even wait to see what the Daredevil streaming numbers are.

2213
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:16,800
Speaker 5: Like, because what he had to do is wait a

2214
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:17,319
week or two.

2215
01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this just comes out ands like, oh fuck,

2216
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:21,279
actually no one cares about Daredevil anymore.

2217
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:25,199
Speaker 6: And they could supplement Daredevil too, right, like they like

2218
01:36:25,319 --> 01:36:28,720
hearing the like Punishers coming out and then it's like,

2219
01:36:29,119 --> 01:36:30,359
oh that's attached to Daredevil.

2220
01:36:30,399 --> 01:36:31,680
Speaker 2: Maybe I want to punch Daredevil.

2221
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:33,840
Speaker 6: Now, yeah, it seems like a like a like a

2222
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:37,239
minor niche category of people that they're a pitch to

2223
01:36:37,359 --> 01:36:38,239
jump on a Daredevil.

2224
01:36:38,319 --> 01:36:41,039
Speaker 1: But the weird they seem to be happy with this

2225
01:36:41,119 --> 01:36:45,079
because season two starts on Friday for Daredevil season like filming,

2226
01:36:45,199 --> 01:36:47,039
and then they got Punisher. So I have some more

2227
01:36:47,079 --> 01:36:48,520
stuff that me and Dylan are gonna talk about with

2228
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:52,000
MCU shows because the Brad winderbaughn like confirmed, like, yeah,

2229
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:54,680
we're not doing the Acoay show like they It sounds

2230
01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:57,720
like that's what's so interesting about Star Wars DC. Marvel

2231
01:36:57,840 --> 01:36:59,800
like sounds like Disney Plus in general is going to

2232
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:02,880
completely different route now with Marvel stuff. He even said

2233
01:37:03,319 --> 01:37:05,439
some of the things, but I'll save that for Thursday.

2234
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:08,079
I mean, mister mess will talk about that Tarfield puns. Sure.

2235
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:12,279
Speaker 4: I think that this is gonna be I mean awesome.

2236
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:15,119
Speaker 7: I mean I loved seeing Punisher and Brenthal is this

2237
01:37:15,239 --> 01:37:19,000
character in the Daredevil show. It was really funny how

2238
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:21,600
heavily involved he was in season two and how we

2239
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:25,000
just got the whole court case just focusing on him,

2240
01:37:25,079 --> 01:37:28,119
and it was just so much just really focusing on

2241
01:37:28,239 --> 01:37:31,600
this character. So for me it was really cool to

2242
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:34,800
just kind of connect with him, and I think that

2243
01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:36,840
getting a little bit more of a focal point on

2244
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:38,319
this character is going to be great.

2245
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:40,239
Speaker 4: To have a little bit of like a special presentation

2246
01:37:40,399 --> 01:37:41,479
on him too, is awesome.

2247
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:44,079
Speaker 7: I'm gonna definitely be there and like we're joking and

2248
01:37:44,199 --> 01:37:47,760
talking about earlier, I'm totally down to watch Punishing see

2249
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:48,680
season one and two.

2250
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:50,520
Speaker 4: I did not realize he had a second season. That's

2251
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:51,359
pretty crazy.

2252
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:53,800
Speaker 1: I feel like Dylan am I wrong in saying is

2253
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:56,920
it a short season? Season two? I think I remember

2254
01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:59,439
being small because I remember Iron Fist two was shorter.

2255
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:02,119
I feel Punisher they maybe did that.

2256
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:04,600
Speaker 5: I can barely remember how to spell my own name.

2257
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:06,399
Sometimes I have no idea how many.

2258
01:38:07,119 --> 01:38:08,560
Speaker 1: Un tail are you looking that up right now? Or

2259
01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:09,479
is back to the porn?

2260
01:38:10,119 --> 01:38:10,840
Speaker 4: Back to the porn?

2261
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:12,399
Speaker 1: Okay, damn Punish.

2262
01:38:12,119 --> 01:38:15,199
Speaker 5: Ser thing are rated.

2263
01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 1: I completely forgot it because I only thought about YouTube boys.

2264
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:20,359
I didn't even think it because I've been waiting for

2265
01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:23,279
a chance. I'm gonna fucking announce this right here. We're

2266
01:38:23,319 --> 01:38:25,199
just gonna do a full and punishing retro because I forgot.

2267
01:38:25,239 --> 01:38:27,000
There's three movies we can retro.

2268
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:27,920
Speaker 4: Punish your war Zone.

2269
01:38:28,079 --> 01:38:32,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's Dolph. Yeah, there's Adulph Langern one from the nineties.

2270
01:38:32,399 --> 01:38:34,520
There's the two thousand and four one with Thomas Jane

2271
01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:38,439
and John Travolta, and then there's Punisher Warzone with Ray Stevenson.

2272
01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:40,680
So we got those three movies as well. So yeah,

2273
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:44,479
Punisher Retrospective twenty twenty six logo for its been because

2274
01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:45,920
there's a couple we've still have done, like the two

2275
01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:48,079
thousand and three Hulk We've still have done a lecture,

2276
01:38:48,199 --> 01:38:50,279
So there's still a couple of that old Marvel Guard

2277
01:38:50,359 --> 01:38:51,000
we have not done.

2278
01:38:51,119 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 7: But uh, Tyorfield, there's twenty six twenty six episodes thirteen

2279
01:38:55,039 --> 01:38:55,560
and thirteen.

2280
01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:58,119
Speaker 1: No, I guess I just remember being reduced but there

2281
01:38:58,199 --> 01:38:58,359
you go.

2282
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:01,880
Speaker 5: So but yeah, look up for those iron Fist. I

2283
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:03,960
guess right that season just because.

2284
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:05,439
Speaker 1: I think that, uh that's season one.

2285
01:39:06,039 --> 01:39:08,319
Speaker 3: Get rid of this? How come we in this sooner?

2286
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:10,359
Speaker 1: And my last question for you to do you agree

2287
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:12,399
with Punisher's methods? Like in the real world, would you

2288
01:39:12,439 --> 01:39:12,800
be doing that?

2289
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:15,600
Speaker 4: Would I be doing that in a war machine suit?

2290
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:16,760
Speaker 1: Would you like someone doing that?

2291
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:19,760
Speaker 4: I mean if I had the war machine suit? Sure? No,

2292
01:39:20,159 --> 01:39:23,520
I think his level of justice is pretty bad. It's

2293
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:24,000
pretty bad.

2294
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:25,680
Speaker 1: Okay, I was just joking. I didn't think he'd actually

2295
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:27,520
take the bait I support.

2296
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:29,239
Speaker 2: He's just like really political.

2297
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:31,199
Speaker 3: Well you bring it up.

2298
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:37,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, my cousin's been on a ramp page. But

2299
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:40,279
let's start there were with Daredevil predictions. What do we

2300
01:39:40,359 --> 01:39:42,800
think they actually do whip Punisher? How many episodes in

2301
01:39:42,880 --> 01:39:44,720
he is he in? What's his arc? We see him

2302
01:39:45,279 --> 01:39:47,199
long hair beard? Did we see him shaving? That's why

2303
01:39:47,199 --> 01:39:49,239
I've shaven the head like that, because it's the Punisher.

2304
01:39:49,319 --> 01:39:51,399
I fuck man John Birth. I'll he has some curly

2305
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:53,960
hair that I can't pull off. But that's that's the look.

2306
01:39:54,079 --> 01:39:54,199
Speaker 4: Now.

2307
01:39:54,359 --> 01:39:57,159
Speaker 1: So what do we do with Frank Castle in this

2308
01:39:57,359 --> 01:39:58,600
season of Born Again?

2309
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:04,399
Speaker 5: How many episodes again this niner? Yeah, I'm gonna say

2310
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:07,159
I'm gonna say three episodes, one of them being just

2311
01:40:07,239 --> 01:40:09,119
like a teaser in the way that we saw like

2312
01:40:09,199 --> 01:40:11,039
Daredevil's mask in She Hulk.

2313
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:11,920
Speaker 4: Uh.

2314
01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:15,640
Speaker 5: But two episodes where there's there's some meat on the bone.

2315
01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:19,760
Speaker 1: I think you're perfectly in the ballpark. I might say

2316
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:22,479
three in an end credit, because now with this special presentation,

2317
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:25,840
maybe they do something to set it end credit.

2318
01:40:25,960 --> 01:40:26,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, good call.

2319
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:29,640
Speaker 1: I think that might be something. Did anyone have to

2320
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:31,760
look if anyone draft him? I can't remember if anyone did.

2321
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:34,000
I'll take a look when someone's talking. The only thing

2322
01:40:34,039 --> 01:40:36,439
I don't know what the whole storyline is, right, because

2323
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:39,159
Fisk's running for mayor and it seems like maybe him

2324
01:40:39,199 --> 01:40:43,039
and Matt start working together, and they, of course divert, divert,

2325
01:40:43,079 --> 01:40:44,920
and Fist goes off the deep end, and you know,

2326
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:48,279
something happens with Vanessa. Imagine if Frank kills Vanessa, fuck man,

2327
01:40:48,359 --> 01:40:51,840
that would be that's a special as fists, imagine a fist.

2328
01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:54,439
But what I do want is because I said this

2329
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:57,199
is it's so I apologize to Dylan and listen to

2330
01:40:57,199 --> 01:41:01,520
those reviews. I pitched this all the time. In season two,

2331
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:05,439
they set up Fisk versus Punisher, and we've never cycled

2332
01:41:05,479 --> 01:41:08,039
back to like the Punisher said, like, when you get

2333
01:41:08,079 --> 01:41:09,880
out of here, I'm gonna find you man to fucking

2334
01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:12,000
kill you, like, because it's such a great story of

2335
01:41:12,399 --> 01:41:14,880
Fisk lets the Punisher out just to go kill other

2336
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,239
crime people and then so when he can get out,

2337
01:41:17,239 --> 01:41:19,239
he can be the top dog. But then Punisher is

2338
01:41:19,279 --> 01:41:21,640
waiting for him. Of course I'm Punisher, A bunch of

2339
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:25,079
family drama, happens, best friend's bad, all this stuff, right,

2340
01:41:25,119 --> 01:41:28,439
all this, all these little twizz and twines. My hope

2341
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:31,600
is that we get back to because that scene and

2342
01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:33,239
now that these two the scene it the scene of

2343
01:41:33,279 --> 01:41:35,720
them in the prison together, that's a top tier Daredevil

2344
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:38,600
episode of Punisher versus Fisk, So I that's the only

2345
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:40,800
thing I'm hoping. I don't think it's gonna happen in

2346
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:42,920
the season, but that's what I want as I want

2347
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:48,640
a birth all uh Dinofrio scene and a content there

2348
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:51,880
I really love, and that plays big in the Spider

2349
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:54,399
Man and Maids series, Like I want Punisher versus Fisk.

2350
01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:56,840
If you tell me too, if that's a special, fuck, yeah,

2351
01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:59,560
Like I'm there, Like, give us that rematch of them

2352
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:02,199
fighting the jail, so this time Frank doesn't have the cuffs.

2353
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:04,800
Let's go. I'm excited. But what he does? I think

2354
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:07,800
what Dyan said, you mean, you tease him, you meet him,

2355
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:09,840
he gets in there, and then he's maybe they set

2356
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:12,520
up somebody's back and he's gonna kill him. Hopefully it's not.

2357
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:15,760
Speaker 6: Chi, but yeah, I know, I think you guys are

2358
01:42:16,079 --> 01:42:19,439
pretty much there with where I would be thinking he

2359
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:23,840
would be maybe reduced it by an episode I feel

2360
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:27,720
like definitely set up for a potential end credit leading

2361
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:31,880
into something, but I feel like it would be kind

2362
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:34,359
of just him helping out a situation more so than

2363
01:42:34,399 --> 01:42:37,520
like being a big part of the show, just because

2364
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:40,039
we had that in season two already of Daredevil. And

2365
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:42,920
that's not me saying I don't want it, because I

2366
01:42:43,119 --> 01:42:46,199
think he, like season two might be my favorite out

2367
01:42:46,239 --> 01:42:47,760
of the Daredevil three.

2368
01:42:48,039 --> 01:42:49,159
Speaker 2: I really really love the.

2369
01:42:49,159 --> 01:42:51,359
Speaker 6: Inclusion of that character and just the storyline around him.

2370
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:54,920
But I'm ready to be born again and you know,

2371
01:42:55,199 --> 01:42:57,680
travel into a different realm and not just rehash the

2372
01:42:57,720 --> 01:42:59,359
same story that we had with Frank Calseon.

2373
01:42:59,399 --> 01:43:01,399
Speaker 2: Not meant like, but I do want him to appear.

2374
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:03,439
Obviously he's gonna appear, so that's great.

2375
01:43:03,279 --> 01:43:05,920
Speaker 6: But I want it to be just a more supplementary

2376
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:08,439
role and then have him on his because it just

2377
01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:10,520
seemed like at the end of season two of Daredevil

2378
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:14,039
as well, it's like, Okay, he's he's gonna go get

2379
01:43:14,079 --> 01:43:16,039
the war machine suit and fuck up some god now

2380
01:43:16,039 --> 01:43:17,800
I'm kidding, but like like he like he's ready to

2381
01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:21,439
go undo something, So here I want to kind of

2382
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:24,039
see quickly what he's been doing and then how he's.

2383
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:26,079
Speaker 3: Able to help out. Comrade.

2384
01:43:26,279 --> 01:43:30,880
Speaker 2: Uh, what's his name, Matt, I said Charlie, I will.

2385
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:32,840
Speaker 1: I will say, so we don't have a Defender's Daredevil's

2386
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:34,279
season three when you're saying you want to know what

2387
01:43:34,279 --> 01:43:35,880
he's been up to, they do answer that and punish

2388
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:37,399
her season one and two. So I don't think they're

2389
01:43:37,399 --> 01:43:40,000
gonna directly go yeah, yeah, I don't think they're gonna

2390
01:43:40,039 --> 01:43:44,279
directly recap the entire show. But I am wondering, like

2391
01:43:45,279 --> 01:43:48,800
in that show, Daredevil wants Frank to be in prison.

2392
01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:50,520
He thinks he should be in prison. So I'm really

2393
01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:52,920
wondering what the dynamic this go around is. It's like,

2394
01:43:53,319 --> 01:43:55,000
is that still not a thing? Has he just been

2395
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:57,039
like yeah, whatever, I just accept Frank's a killer now,

2396
01:43:57,119 --> 01:43:59,439
But it feels like he's always very like you, no,

2397
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:02,520
we need like you're sick and you should be locked up.

2398
01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:04,560
So but they look like they're working together, So I'm

2399
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:06,800
very curious how that goes or if it's like, oh,

2400
01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:09,199
after this, I'm gonna lock you up and Frank gets

2401
01:44:09,239 --> 01:44:11,760
out of there as always. I'm curious what the dynamic

2402
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:14,439
is for mad and how uh how deep he is

2403
01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:14,960
into the.

2404
01:44:15,079 --> 01:44:17,239
Speaker 2: It's like a catwoman Batman situation.

2405
01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:19,439
Speaker 1: Those two there are a couple now that'd be great.

2406
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:22,840
Taylor Honey Punisher predictions.

2407
01:44:24,039 --> 01:44:25,079
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness.

2408
01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:29,079
Speaker 7: I mean you highlighted some really really good ones with

2409
01:44:29,239 --> 01:44:31,640
the season two of Daredevil, because yeah, there's a lot

2410
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:33,520
going on that they don't kind of follow through, and

2411
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:36,239
I just kind of figured, well, maybe Fisk pops up

2412
01:44:36,239 --> 01:44:39,840
and punish your season one and two. I was pissed

2413
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:42,680
the whole time because he really just lays it down

2414
01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:44,760
hard on him, like I'm gonna come and like fucking

2415
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:47,399
find you, and like he's pissed off. He was set

2416
01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:50,119
up by my Fisk, So that's a shame that they

2417
01:44:50,119 --> 01:44:52,960
don't kind of touch upon that again. But uh, I

2418
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:55,239
don't know what my predictions would be, and that's just

2419
01:44:55,359 --> 01:44:57,399
because I feel like there's still a lot I don't

2420
01:44:57,439 --> 01:44:58,199
know about the character.

2421
01:44:58,399 --> 01:45:01,279
Speaker 4: I really don't know where he was really just running

2422
01:45:01,319 --> 01:45:02,880
off to at the end of the day.

2423
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:05,119
Speaker 7: Devil show, and what he's trying to do now, what

2424
01:45:05,239 --> 01:45:07,279
his motivations and his goals are now that he kind

2425
01:45:07,279 --> 01:45:08,720
of found the truth about his family.

2426
01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:12,840
Speaker 4: So I don't know what to predict.

2427
01:45:13,079 --> 01:45:16,119
Speaker 7: Really, I mean, he just finds another city with criminals

2428
01:45:16,199 --> 01:45:17,600
and just starts killing them.

2429
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:19,920
Speaker 1: I guess, well, at least because you guys watched the

2430
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:22,279
Punisher show sets up that there's more people to the

2431
01:45:22,359 --> 01:45:25,680
family situation, so they didn't they didn't close that off.

2432
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:29,119
There's certain people that yes, that's what that's about. Here,

2433
01:45:29,239 --> 01:45:31,000
here's the phone one. I want to ask everybody, what's

2434
01:45:31,159 --> 01:45:36,159
the Punisher's kill count in this show? Ooh, my lives?

2435
01:45:36,199 --> 01:45:41,720
Does he take? I'm gonna say I'm gonna say six.

2436
01:45:42,159 --> 01:45:45,640
Speaker 4: I'm going with six, double digits for sure, double digits.

2437
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:49,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god, fifteen if he's only in a couple episodes.

2438
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:52,159
He's a busy boy. Okay, here's double digits. Fifteen.

2439
01:45:53,119 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 5: I'll go look at number three.

2440
01:45:55,239 --> 01:45:55,520
Speaker 1: Okay.

2441
01:45:55,840 --> 01:46:00,800
Speaker 3: Ooh, I was gonna go low to. I'll do lucky

2442
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:05,680
number seven, Lucky number seven, okay. Uh.

2443
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:08,239
Speaker 1: Super Mike asked, do you think we'll finally get some

2444
01:46:08,359 --> 01:46:10,760
concrete answers on how Kimpin got out of the deal

2445
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:12,600
he made with Daredevil at the end of season three.

2446
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:16,039
That dangling thread still bugs me absolutely. I think so,

2447
01:46:16,079 --> 01:46:18,680
because the idea was, like Matt had this stuff on

2448
01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:20,880
him and if Kingpin go out of prison, he would

2449
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:23,560
send Vanessa to prison, right, and Vanessa a big character

2450
01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:27,600
for a right Kirkland Taylor. I think they will also.

2451
01:46:28,039 --> 01:46:30,880
I also think people don't. I know, it's kind of

2452
01:46:31,039 --> 01:46:33,920
lame as a crutch, but like the blip did happen,

2453
01:46:34,079 --> 01:46:35,800
and I feel like a lot of ship that they

2454
01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:37,880
can just go like, well, this this and this happened

2455
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:39,119
in the blip and we had to do this, and

2456
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:46,079
oh my god, Vanessa, oh boy, I'll kill you that

2457
01:46:48,239 --> 01:46:51,039
he would take down that. Imagine that and the poorls

2458
01:46:51,199 --> 01:46:57,600
just like you took everything from me and I don't

2459
01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:02,680
even know where you are in front. So I think

2460
01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:07,600
they will answer that somehow Loopoi. I think they. I

2461
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:10,920
think they kind of have to if they just go like, well, yeah,

2462
01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:12,880
I figured out how Vanessa won't go to prison. They

2463
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:15,880
don't tell us. That'd be kind of lame, but I

2464
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:16,399
think they will.

2465
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:17,600
Speaker 5: I think so too.

2466
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:21,840
Speaker 3: Or just Vanessa died between shows, we just never see that.

2467
01:47:22,199 --> 01:47:25,000
Speaker 1: She's there, but they because originally they they recast her

2468
01:47:25,079 --> 01:47:27,319
and then when they did that whole shooting the show over,

2469
01:47:27,359 --> 01:47:28,680
they brought the original actress.

2470
01:47:28,399 --> 01:47:31,560
Speaker 3: Back then since like you recasted.

2471
01:47:38,039 --> 01:47:40,640
Speaker 1: Because he is in the Channel famous questions. Dulton is too.

2472
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:42,439
He asked, Uh, do we think there's gonna be any

2473
01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:44,039
MCU cameos in this show?

2474
01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:46,199
Speaker 5: I think there's gonna be.

2475
01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:47,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2476
01:47:48,119 --> 01:47:51,840
Speaker 3: I would like, like who likely characters would be?

2477
01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:54,840
Speaker 6: Someone that's already interacted with Matt in the past, So

2478
01:47:55,159 --> 01:47:58,319
of course we got she Hulk comes to mind her?

2479
01:47:59,039 --> 01:47:59,800
Speaker 2: Okay, won't be her?

2480
01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:05,239
Speaker 1: Answered echo, Yeah, I comedic for what they're gonna go

2481
01:48:05,399 --> 01:48:07,039
for here, and I feel like some people are like

2482
01:48:07,359 --> 01:48:09,960
the show. I don't think they're gonna do it.

2483
01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:15,760
Speaker 5: I'll go with uh, happy Hogan.

2484
01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:19,920
Speaker 1: That's a good get. And that's like a full circle.

2485
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:24,079
Speaker 5: Why is it a full circle spider Man circle back?

2486
01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:27,600
Speaker 4: Yes, I would say spider Man Peter Parker in too.

2487
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 1: No, that's why it's a full circle because he played

2488
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:32,560
That's where I was going. He played Foggy Nelson in

2489
01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:36,039
the Daredevil movie. Remember I don't know Ben Affleck. Yeah

2490
01:48:36,039 --> 01:48:38,680
he's yeah, he's his Foggy.

2491
01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:39,600
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

2492
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:42,960
Speaker 1: So that's why that that'd be a very fun full circle. Yeah,

2493
01:48:43,079 --> 01:48:48,720
Foggy would be great or sorry, that would be great.

2494
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:50,800
I would love it. This would be the most hype

2495
01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:55,000
one never gonna happen if the season ends, because fucking

2496
01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:58,119
you know, Brave New World gives nothing. But imagine those

2497
01:48:58,159 --> 01:49:00,479
wings collapse and some of the lands and hell Kitchen

2498
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:03,239
and its fucking falcon and he's asking about to being

2499
01:49:03,319 --> 01:49:05,920
the Avengers. I don't think they're gonna draft d Avengers,

2500
01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:09,239
but man, I feel like, no, I guess Captain America.

2501
01:49:09,359 --> 01:49:11,319
Speaker 5: That's where I feel like that would be happiest job

2502
01:49:11,359 --> 01:49:12,840
based on what happened in Deadpool.

2503
01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:15,319
Speaker 1: That was before the blip though, so that's why it's

2504
01:49:15,319 --> 01:49:21,199
probably changed now. That scene, yeah, yeah, that scene happened. Yeah,

2505
01:49:21,199 --> 01:49:23,159
I don't know. It's not gonna be Spider Man. I

2506
01:49:23,239 --> 01:49:27,680
know people want that that's not happening. I would love it.

2507
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:30,279
I think we've probably yes. Scrody, I would love it

2508
01:49:30,319 --> 01:49:32,960
if it was like a Kate Bishop they call him

2509
01:49:33,039 --> 01:49:39,920
Marvel Alliance Scroty Chris. I would love Kate Bishop her

2510
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:41,439
to be fighting crime in New York and then to

2511
01:49:41,479 --> 01:49:45,159
bump into each other. But like, honestly, like if we

2512
01:49:45,199 --> 01:49:47,279
don't get anybody else, I'm kind of fine because we

2513
01:49:47,359 --> 01:49:49,279
got punished her. I know it's not MCO came, but

2514
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:52,720
that's all I really need. But I don't know, I guess,

2515
01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:54,239
and like if it's Marvel, we're all. The other one

2516
01:49:54,239 --> 01:49:56,159
I'm hoping for is Jessica Jones. I would love to

2517
01:49:56,239 --> 01:49:58,600
see Christian Ritter back. You know, that's it sounds a

2518
01:49:58,640 --> 01:49:58,960
big one.

2519
01:49:59,279 --> 01:50:01,159
Speaker 5: The rumors and that was that it's gonna happen and

2520
01:50:01,159 --> 01:50:02,399
then it like didn't happen, right.

2521
01:50:02,399 --> 01:50:05,560
Speaker 1: But show that got canceled, So you know, pick the

2522
01:50:05,600 --> 01:50:06,880
wrong horse there, Pick.

2523
01:50:06,720 --> 01:50:08,920
Speaker 5: The wrong horse. I mean, I feel like I think

2524
01:50:08,960 --> 01:50:11,880
they'll do like, yeah, they we'll have some of those

2525
01:50:12,399 --> 01:50:15,279
ones from the Marvel Netflix bringing those characters back for sure,

2526
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:17,159
but I feel like they got to have some MU

2527
01:50:17,239 --> 01:50:19,760
stuff just to really solidify to people and prove like, hey,

2528
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:21,560
this is this is the MC now. I mean, I

2529
01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:23,720
guess he's already apeared in a couple of things, but

2530
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:25,720
just to make it clear, I feel like they want

2531
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:27,600
to do a little bit of that be the talk

2532
01:50:27,640 --> 01:50:29,560
of the town. And so I think, you know, one

2533
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:31,840
or two small ones in there, but nothing to media.

2534
01:50:31,880 --> 01:50:32,319
I don't think.

2535
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:34,760
Speaker 1: This is why I hate that Moonnight, like went to

2536
01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:36,560
Egypt and there was a fighting alligator.

2537
01:50:36,640 --> 01:50:37,880
Speaker 5: Yeah if they went with the.

2538
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:40,640
Speaker 1: Moonlight, yeah, where if they were in the moon Night

2539
01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:43,039
where he was a New York crime fighter. That would

2540
01:50:43,039 --> 01:50:45,920
have been so cool to have like practical suit.

2541
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:47,279
Speaker 5: It's still possible.

2542
01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:49,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's still it's still. It's still there.

2543
01:50:51,239 --> 01:50:53,840
Speaker 5: Doing these days. Name one movie he's been in the

2544
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:59,880
last three years, it was like five years.

2545
01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:03,119
Speaker 1: He's He's in a Garamudl tour movie coming up next.

2546
01:51:03,159 --> 01:51:05,680
He's in a Frankenstein movie. He plays Frankenstein and Jacob

2547
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:06,520
Lordi is the monster.

2548
01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:09,920
Speaker 4: So okay, it's gonna be good.

2549
01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:12,279
Speaker 1: I can't remember who the bride. Oh the bride'es me

2550
01:51:12,359 --> 01:51:17,199
a golf so fuck, that's gonna be that's gonna be good, Taylor.

2551
01:51:17,239 --> 01:51:19,960
Any mcu people, and we get your precious iron fist here.

2552
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:26,800
Speaker 4: I would hope we get the legendary Danny n get

2553
01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:32,560
I was a Colleen Colleen Wing Colleen get Her in

2554
01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:34,279
there too. Yeah.

2555
01:51:34,319 --> 01:51:37,520
Speaker 7: I'm super down to have some of those those recurring

2556
01:51:37,760 --> 01:51:39,680
characters pop back in. But I would love to have

2557
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:44,079
some some larger than life MCU familiar faces pop. Bet

2558
01:51:44,119 --> 01:51:46,920
who's your pick them? I mean I would love to

2559
01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:48,640
see I would love to see Spider Man. But you

2560
01:51:48,680 --> 01:51:49,680
said that's not gonna happen.

2561
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:51,960
Speaker 1: Now, all of that happen Uh.

2562
01:51:53,279 --> 01:51:57,159
Speaker 4: Aside from that, would also be pretty cool to see

2563
01:51:57,720 --> 01:51:59,800
h stars in New York.

2564
01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:04,039
Speaker 7: Norman Osborne throwing Norman Osborne Oscorp Tower in there, That

2565
01:52:04,079 --> 01:52:05,000
would be pretty hype.

2566
01:52:05,920 --> 01:52:08,159
Speaker 1: Scar might be in New York. I don't actually know.

2567
01:52:08,239 --> 01:52:09,359
I guess she was in New York.

2568
01:52:09,399 --> 01:52:11,000
Speaker 3: She was somewhere in New York.

2569
01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:13,880
Speaker 1: Punisher killed him?

2570
01:52:14,279 --> 01:52:15,159
Speaker 4: What is.

2571
01:52:18,319 --> 01:52:18,359
Speaker 1: That?

2572
01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:20,000
Speaker 5: Or King King kills him?

2573
01:52:20,079 --> 01:52:20,920
Speaker 4: Is that Donald.

2574
01:52:24,399 --> 01:52:28,479
Speaker 1: Where Vanessa's still not back? She's like that Martin Star

2575
01:52:28,600 --> 01:52:31,560
character where she pretended she was dead, like after the blip,

2576
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:34,960
but she didn't. Actually, Yeah, that's what she's like. Yeah,

2577
01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:40,359
anybody you said someone big, but you inspire you larger

2578
01:52:40,359 --> 01:52:41,800
than life, larger than life.

2579
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:46,359
Speaker 4: In life, someone is super super big. Ben Uh, I

2580
01:52:46,399 --> 01:52:49,039
would probably want to see. Yeah, Thor is not gonna

2581
01:52:49,039 --> 01:52:51,479
pop in there. And I can't see a hawk popping

2582
01:52:51,520 --> 01:52:55,439
in there. Take a doctor Strange popping in they're.

2583
01:52:55,279 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 1: In New York, you know. Oh yeah, I want Charlie

2584
01:53:00,079 --> 01:53:02,560
to get in there. I know they're happy that he's

2585
01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:04,239
in the TV world, but just now I'm back to

2586
01:53:04,279 --> 01:53:06,000
where we were in Netflix from like, I just want

2587
01:53:06,039 --> 01:53:07,199
to back in the movies too.

2588
01:53:07,319 --> 01:53:10,159
Speaker 4: But he did make he wasn't a movie yeah.

2589
01:53:10,039 --> 01:53:12,119
Speaker 1: I know, but like one scene like again, and now

2590
01:53:12,159 --> 01:53:13,520
it sounds like we're not doing the team. If we

2591
01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:16,319
were Inspirement and Daredevil in four, then I'd be happy.

2592
01:53:16,439 --> 01:53:19,680
But Tom also asked, what is something you hope is

2593
01:53:20,039 --> 01:53:23,920
improved upon for the new Deptflix Daredevil show that was

2594
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:27,199
opposed to that show? All post to the Netflix show,

2595
01:53:27,279 --> 01:53:31,720
sorry side, I've heard there's some maybe wonky cgi and

2596
01:53:31,760 --> 01:53:34,439
the show is a little disappointing. But what I would want,

2597
01:53:34,680 --> 01:53:36,720
and I bet this is where it is, I want

2598
01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:39,319
Matt and Daredevil to be more of a gymnast. That's

2599
01:53:39,359 --> 01:53:41,000
what I loved about the way he moved in Si Hulk,

2600
01:53:41,399 --> 01:53:43,239
that moment where she like looks off the building and

2601
01:53:43,359 --> 01:53:45,560
he's like flipping around everything. Like in the comics. There's

2602
01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:48,319
so many panels of him jumping and doing crazy flips,

2603
01:53:48,319 --> 01:53:50,119
and he has his batons that have like the hooks

2604
01:53:50,119 --> 01:53:53,159
and everything, like I want them to the Netflix shows.

2605
01:53:53,199 --> 01:53:55,800
I appreciate that they went very grounded, but they also

2606
01:53:55,800 --> 01:53:57,680
didn't have the budget for that. If this is like,

2607
01:53:57,720 --> 01:53:59,520
give them a little bit more budget. I do want

2608
01:53:59,880 --> 01:54:01,399
I don't want to go crazy, but I would just

2609
01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:04,399
love to see Matt flipping around a lot, because it's

2610
01:54:04,479 --> 01:54:05,760
you know, it's like a batin thing where there are

2611
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:09,319
aerial fighters as well too, so and give them the

2612
01:54:09,359 --> 01:54:12,000
double d's as well. They haven't given them double d's.

2613
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:13,960
I think it's the best version of suit. But why

2614
01:54:14,039 --> 01:54:17,239
is there still no d's on there? So don't worry Dalton.

2615
01:54:17,279 --> 01:54:18,840
You worded at bad and I read it bad. So

2616
01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:20,119
we're a winning combo here.

2617
01:54:20,239 --> 01:54:20,760
Speaker 5: Don't worry.

2618
01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:23,119
Speaker 1: So but we know what she meant. But yeah, and

2619
01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:27,279
I guess I'll say this for the desk, but like

2620
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:31,880
less of storylines, I don't care about AK, Like I'm

2621
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:34,159
not sad if we lose Foggy. And there's lot of

2622
01:54:34,159 --> 01:54:36,119
times we're just felt like Netflix, like we need something

2623
01:54:36,159 --> 01:54:38,319
for Foggy to do. Let's send them to the biker club.

2624
01:54:38,359 --> 01:54:40,880
It's like I don't need that. The same way of

2625
01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:42,800
like I don't like that Matt has a new girlfriend

2626
01:54:42,840 --> 01:54:45,279
and I'm so worried. It's like, oh, she's a tough

2627
01:54:45,359 --> 01:54:47,039
cop on the side and here's her, just like I

2628
01:54:47,159 --> 01:54:49,880
don't I really don't want that. I'm fine with and

2629
01:54:49,960 --> 01:54:52,079
I like care more than Foggy. But I'm literally just

2630
01:54:52,159 --> 01:54:54,560
fine with just madd and Kingpin and go from there

2631
01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:56,920
and have people come in. But it's just like I

2632
01:54:57,119 --> 01:54:59,640
hate when this is nine episodes, so maybe not so

2633
01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:02,439
I would like that where I don't need Foggy and

2634
01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:03,800
what's his girlfriend's name?

2635
01:55:03,880 --> 01:55:07,159
Speaker 2: I can't remember what Marcy.

2636
01:55:07,119 --> 01:55:09,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Marsci, Yeah, she's like call it like not that

2637
01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:11,399
she was in a bunch, but just being like sometimes

2638
01:55:11,479 --> 01:55:14,239
feel like those characters were just needed something to do.

2639
01:55:14,359 --> 01:55:16,039
It's like, just give Charlie Cox more time. All with

2640
01:55:16,199 --> 01:55:18,840
pay Moore, Well, don't fucking Pam. He's great. So that's

2641
01:55:18,920 --> 01:55:21,720
my thing is Darede will be more gymnasts and less

2642
01:55:22,359 --> 01:55:24,439
side plots that are just gonna phil like filler.

2643
01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:28,159
Speaker 5: So yeah, that's because that's been a long time since

2644
01:55:28,159 --> 01:55:29,479
I've watched the show. It's hard for me to really

2645
01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:31,880
remember anything I don't like, which is a good sign,

2646
01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:33,680
of course, but I think it would be that for

2647
01:55:33,800 --> 01:55:37,359
me is like those shows always had some what felt

2648
01:55:37,399 --> 01:55:39,840
like filler storylines in the side and I kind of

2649
01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:41,920
feel like that's not really an MCU thing. If we

2650
01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:44,359
look at like the Disney Plus shows, I mean, they're

2651
01:55:44,399 --> 01:55:46,600
not very long generally speaking, and I feel like they

2652
01:55:46,640 --> 01:55:48,359
are pretty to the point there isn't a ton of

2653
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:50,680
weird stuff happening on the side. There's a little bit

2654
01:55:50,720 --> 01:55:52,640
of it, so I guess that would be mine too,

2655
01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:56,960
just like just focus, zoom in focus, have a good time.

2656
01:55:57,560 --> 01:55:59,560
Speaker 1: The tough thing though, is if in Netflix they focus,

2657
01:55:59,600 --> 01:56:01,319
I don't think you me didn't would have got Meach

2658
01:56:01,359 --> 01:56:03,600
and Ward because that's one of those stories that complete

2659
01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:05,920
side character doing random stuff.

2660
01:56:05,960 --> 01:56:10,159
Speaker 5: That's different when the main guy why the show's selling

2661
01:56:10,239 --> 01:56:12,880
point is weak and you need something like that to

2662
01:56:12,920 --> 01:56:15,119
fill it in. With Daredevil, he's great. We don't need

2663
01:56:15,199 --> 01:56:16,800
stuff on the side to fill in the blanks.

2664
01:56:18,239 --> 01:56:21,119
Speaker 1: You just watched all Daredevil. Any anything you want to

2665
01:56:21,199 --> 01:56:21,800
prove upon.

2666
01:56:23,199 --> 01:56:26,960
Speaker 7: I would I appreciate not having like four or five

2667
01:56:27,079 --> 01:56:30,119
episodes of just sulking Matt Murdoch.

2668
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:32,720
Speaker 1: Well, then you're in the wrong place because this' that's

2669
01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:33,560
what Daredebel does.

2670
01:56:33,680 --> 01:56:37,920
Speaker 7: Like, if I watched it would have made sense, right,

2671
01:56:38,079 --> 01:56:40,319
I would have understood, like why he's so down the dump.

2672
01:56:40,840 --> 01:56:42,479
Speaker 1: Okay, first of all, you don't think in season one

2673
01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:44,760
and two, Matt it's like a depressed character at times.

2674
01:56:44,840 --> 01:56:47,359
He's always he's at the building.

2675
01:56:47,399 --> 01:56:50,319
Speaker 5: This guy's apartment's we get the reasoning and.

2676
01:56:50,319 --> 01:56:52,520
Speaker 7: The build up towards it when certain things happen and

2677
01:56:52,600 --> 01:56:54,840
some backstory, but this it was just like, you know,

2678
01:56:54,920 --> 01:56:56,560
he wakes up in the rubble and then.

2679
01:56:56,439 --> 01:57:00,520
Speaker 1: He's just looking. He didn't watch before people listen review.

2680
01:57:00,520 --> 01:57:02,119
I did tell these guys to at least watch a

2681
01:57:02,159 --> 01:57:04,760
YouTube video about Defenders, and then when you get five

2682
01:57:04,760 --> 01:57:06,960
minutes interview, they're like, maybe this happened. This happened like

2683
01:57:07,199 --> 01:57:08,199
they're like they.

2684
01:57:08,239 --> 01:57:10,039
Speaker 5: Might have just watched me and Travis's review.

2685
01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:11,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is Keith.

2686
01:57:12,520 --> 01:57:13,279
Speaker 3: You know, it took so long.

2687
01:57:16,039 --> 01:57:18,319
Speaker 1: Daredel is often depressed. I thought you were gonna just

2688
01:57:18,319 --> 01:57:20,039
say less Kingpin or something, because you guys are just

2689
01:57:20,079 --> 01:57:20,920
haters over here.

2690
01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:21,039
Speaker 4: So.

2691
01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:24,760
Speaker 6: Less Sulky and Kingpin as well. Just to add't know

2692
01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:26,680
what Taylor said, No, I it's funny. I agree with

2693
01:57:26,760 --> 01:57:29,079
everything that you guys said for like just what I

2694
01:57:29,159 --> 01:57:35,840
would change. So definitely I'll agree there. I probably more

2695
01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:38,840
aligned with Taylor on the fact of not just because

2696
01:57:39,119 --> 01:57:44,600
Matt is so in between the dourness and just fighting

2697
01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:47,760
like his internal faith and stuff like that, and like

2698
01:57:47,880 --> 01:57:49,960
if that's that, that's who the character is, That's who

2699
01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:53,239
the character is. I just want to feel like I'm grown,

2700
01:57:53,319 --> 01:57:56,680
like he's evolved and he's growing, because we did three

2701
01:57:56,760 --> 01:57:59,479
seasons of Daredevil of him doing that, and if this

2702
01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:01,920
is just back to square one where he's just going

2703
01:58:02,039 --> 01:58:04,000
over the same types of emotions.

2704
01:58:03,560 --> 01:58:06,199
Speaker 4: Of like, is what I'm doing right? Should I go further?

2705
01:58:06,279 --> 01:58:08,359
Speaker 2: Should I go to the level of killing someone like

2706
01:58:08,399 --> 01:58:08,720
I should?

2707
01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:12,079
Speaker 6: Like? I I feel like we've already gone down that road.

2708
01:58:12,319 --> 01:58:15,840
So I just wanted to feel like and evolved Matt

2709
01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:19,199
Murdock here and not just well, it's a new MCU

2710
01:58:19,359 --> 01:58:22,239
Daredevil here, so it's gonna we're gonna have to maybe

2711
01:58:22,279 --> 01:58:24,800
cover stuff that we already did because not everyone watched

2712
01:58:24,840 --> 01:58:25,640
Daredevil Netflix.

2713
01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:26,840
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

2714
01:58:27,279 --> 01:58:29,560
Speaker 1: I feel like, based on that critique, Kirk not gonna

2715
01:58:29,560 --> 01:58:30,439
be happy with this season.

2716
01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:31,920
Speaker 4: I feel like probably.

2717
01:58:32,079 --> 01:58:35,920
Speaker 6: I mean, I think my thoughts on on those retros,

2718
01:58:35,920 --> 01:58:37,720
but I I feel like I found out a lot

2719
01:58:37,720 --> 01:58:39,800
about Daredevil and it's like, man, this character is actually

2720
01:58:39,840 --> 01:58:44,520
maybe not as aligned with what I like about characters,

2721
01:58:44,720 --> 01:58:47,479
Like I thought you would be great, look great fight scenes.

2722
01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:50,359
I do want more comic bookie type fight scenes, like

2723
01:58:50,439 --> 01:58:52,359
acrobatics like what you said, Travis, we got that in

2724
01:58:52,399 --> 01:58:52,880
Spider Man.

2725
01:58:52,960 --> 01:58:53,680
Speaker 3: That was really cool.

2726
01:58:54,479 --> 01:58:58,600
Speaker 1: Did we I'm like, what kind of noa home did

2727
01:58:58,640 --> 01:59:03,119
I miss? Like he's on the Statue of Liberty with

2728
01:59:03,159 --> 01:59:03,880
the three swearmen.

2729
01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:07,159
Speaker 5: Hey guys, when they throw the barrick, he actually jumped

2730
01:59:07,159 --> 01:59:09,359
out the window, grabbed the barrick, threw it back at

2731
01:59:09,399 --> 01:59:10,399
the offender.

2732
01:59:10,399 --> 01:59:13,439
Speaker 1: The ship defender, and walked in a prison. Yeah.

2733
01:59:14,479 --> 01:59:16,560
Speaker 4: Uh, the super mic is what does he mean? The

2734
01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:19,159
short er agrees like the show agrees with it, Matt

2735
01:59:19,199 --> 01:59:22,039
and o'burnock being too negative.

2736
01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:25,159
Speaker 1: There was a quote I think you must not be

2737
01:59:25,199 --> 01:59:28,560
in the discord where he said he didn't want I

2738
01:59:28,640 --> 01:59:30,920
can't remember the wording, but I'm pretty much paraphrasing where

2739
01:59:30,960 --> 01:59:32,600
they didn't want the show to be a bunch of

2740
01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:35,880
the heroes sitting around talking about what does it mean

2741
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:38,000
to be a hero and sulking all that they didn't

2742
01:59:38,039 --> 01:59:41,159
say sulking. For me, that's not a good sign because

2743
01:59:41,359 --> 01:59:43,640
like the best moment of the show is Punisher and

2744
01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:45,880
Daredevil on the rooftop talking about what does mean to

2745
01:59:45,880 --> 01:59:47,560
be a hero and Punisher being like, well, you're not

2746
01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:50,079
actually a hero because you put them down, they get up.

2747
01:59:50,079 --> 01:59:51,760
I put them down, they stay down, you know, Like

2748
01:59:52,159 --> 01:59:55,760
I think my worry is they keep. The two things

2749
01:59:55,880 --> 01:59:58,840
everyone keeps saying in these interviews is like it's really

2750
01:59:58,960 --> 02:00:01,840
mature and it's just like Netflix. But I feel like

2751
02:00:01,960 --> 02:00:04,520
they don't talk about the actual show. And I think

2752
02:00:04,600 --> 02:00:06,760
there is a reason why the critics have only seen

2753
02:00:06,800 --> 02:00:09,439
two episodes. I'm not saying I want to be negative,

2754
02:00:09,520 --> 02:00:11,439
but it is Disney Plus and we've been there. But

2755
02:00:11,520 --> 02:00:13,600
we've been there before when Secret Invasions started good right,

2756
02:00:14,039 --> 02:00:16,960
and there's a decline. So I think like as much

2757
02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:19,800
as you guys bring it up, like, I think that

2758
02:00:19,880 --> 02:00:22,319
might be a thing that that's just that's always Daredevil.

2759
02:00:22,399 --> 02:00:26,239
He's always like dealing with who is he and what

2760
02:00:26,319 --> 02:00:28,199
does he mean for the city. So that's just Daredevil

2761
02:00:28,279 --> 02:00:31,199
like all the time. So I think you do lose

2762
02:00:31,279 --> 02:00:33,600
some of the core stuff there and not Yeah, I am.

2763
02:00:34,159 --> 02:00:36,439
I've not liked many of the showrunners comments. I can't

2764
02:00:36,439 --> 02:00:38,960
remember some other stuff he said, but there's other And

2765
02:00:39,079 --> 02:00:40,319
even when you just start me like, oh we did

2766
02:00:40,399 --> 02:00:43,720
something even more gnarlier than Netflix, it's just like all right,

2767
02:00:44,039 --> 02:00:46,520
Like again, like the show, I didn't watch the show

2768
02:00:46,720 --> 02:00:48,680
for it to be mature. I didn't watch it because

2769
02:00:48,720 --> 02:00:51,279
I won the action scenes. That's great, but I watched

2770
02:00:51,319 --> 02:00:53,239
it for the character stuff. But we'll see. Maybe he's

2771
02:00:53,279 --> 02:00:58,600
just a bad interviewer, you know, so possible, Yeah, any

2772
02:00:59,119 --> 02:01:01,720
major deffs you adulton as. But we always talk about deaths.

2773
02:01:02,560 --> 02:01:05,239
I fogg he's a gonor, he's a dead man.

2774
02:01:06,520 --> 02:01:09,239
Speaker 4: Why you say that he's just done? I just think

2775
02:01:09,279 --> 02:01:10,479
it's die in the comics.

2776
02:01:11,159 --> 02:01:13,439
Speaker 1: Everybody dies in the comics. Matt's he's dying in the

2777
02:01:13,479 --> 02:01:15,640
comics and an electra took over. So I don't think

2778
02:01:15,680 --> 02:01:17,880
that's happening. I just think Foggy is a dead man

2779
02:01:17,960 --> 02:01:20,239
with certain things they've talked about. Instead of just like, oh,

2780
02:01:20,279 --> 02:01:22,720
we're some big stuff's gonna happen. We want to make

2781
02:01:22,760 --> 02:01:27,199
big moves and and just I think Foggy is he's uh,

2782
02:01:27,359 --> 02:01:30,159
he's no more. And I'm I'm okay with that because

2783
02:01:30,159 --> 02:01:32,680
I never loved the Foggy Nelson Netflix character. I like

2784
02:01:32,720 --> 02:01:35,520
the Combo version a bit more so. And I don't

2785
02:01:35,520 --> 02:01:39,319
think so I better not be Kingpin. Kingpin better stay alive,

2786
02:01:39,399 --> 02:01:41,439
and he better not end up in prison again, Like

2787
02:01:41,520 --> 02:01:44,720
I don't need to go back to prison. There's he

2788
02:01:44,800 --> 02:01:47,239
gets away with it, and Matt has to struggle with

2789
02:01:47,279 --> 02:01:49,039
that because they're if they're doing a season two or

2790
02:01:49,079 --> 02:01:51,159
like I guess it's born against season two. I think

2791
02:01:51,199 --> 02:01:55,239
it's yeah, like maybe Kingpin loses, but not back to prison,

2792
02:01:55,279 --> 02:01:57,199
because season one he went to prison, season two it

2793
02:01:57,279 --> 02:01:59,000
was about him being in prison. Then season three he

2794
02:01:59,039 --> 02:02:01,439
went back to prison. So so have them or have

2795
02:02:01,560 --> 02:02:04,279
him win, have them beat Daredevil this season, have the

2796
02:02:04,359 --> 02:02:06,479
good guy lose and like that's another.

2797
02:02:06,640 --> 02:02:09,520
Speaker 5: War moment leading into the second season. Maybe maybe yeah,

2798
02:02:10,239 --> 02:02:11,279
or and yeah maybe.

2799
02:02:11,800 --> 02:02:13,760
Speaker 1: I don't think it's at their own possibility that Vanessa

2800
02:02:13,840 --> 02:02:14,479
dies either.

2801
02:02:14,359 --> 02:02:16,960
Speaker 3: And that was gonna be pick that could be something

2802
02:02:17,319 --> 02:02:17,760
that could be.

2803
02:02:17,840 --> 02:02:20,560
Speaker 1: That because imagine Darede or Kingpin going the next season

2804
02:02:20,680 --> 02:02:23,439
like we mean about it, but imagine literally someone or

2805
02:02:23,479 --> 02:02:26,039
imagine Matt Murray accidentally killing me and as something like

2806
02:02:26,640 --> 02:02:30,520
Kingpin is gonna lose it. So I I would kind

2807
02:02:30,560 --> 02:02:32,239
of like them to kill the Nests, even though I

2808
02:02:32,319 --> 02:02:33,079
really like that actress.

2809
02:02:33,159 --> 02:02:37,800
Speaker 5: So I mean that would be good for those are

2810
02:02:37,840 --> 02:02:39,640
good ones. I don't know if I what about Karen.

2811
02:02:39,680 --> 02:02:41,279
You think she's she's good, she's chilling?

2812
02:02:41,800 --> 02:02:44,640
Speaker 1: I think so, yeah, And I hope I hope they

2813
02:02:44,760 --> 02:02:47,600
get her in that Punisher special or whatever, because that's

2814
02:02:47,640 --> 02:02:51,680
my ship right there they have? Yeah, yeah, so I

2815
02:02:51,720 --> 02:02:56,720
would I hope. I like Karen so she killed one guy, okay, just.

2816
02:02:59,640 --> 02:03:00,520
Speaker 4: The least ten people.

2817
02:03:00,720 --> 02:03:02,720
Speaker 1: That was self defense. He was gonna kill her. That

2818
02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:03,560
doesn't count as.

2819
02:03:03,479 --> 02:03:05,600
Speaker 2: A kill like him on but he counts.

2820
02:03:06,640 --> 02:03:08,159
Speaker 3: He's as King Pitton, he counts.

2821
02:03:10,159 --> 02:03:12,279
Speaker 5: I think, Yeah, I agree with the Foggy thing, not

2822
02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:17,239
as I think Vanessa could be the second next season potentially,

2823
02:03:17,279 --> 02:03:19,880
but yeah, I think Foggy's had his time in the sun.

2824
02:03:20,560 --> 02:03:22,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I.

2825
02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:24,840
Speaker 7: Really like Foggy, so I don't want him to die.

2826
02:03:25,399 --> 02:03:29,600
I really like his character a lot, so innocent and justice.

2827
02:03:29,960 --> 02:03:31,239
Speaker 3: He is a good guys.

2828
02:03:31,560 --> 02:03:33,279
Speaker 4: What was that justice?

2829
02:03:33,920 --> 02:03:37,399
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a proud word right there. That's not a

2830
02:03:37,479 --> 02:03:41,479
real word. It's all worlds are made up. What about

2831
02:03:42,199 --> 02:03:45,000
Benjamin point Dexter Bullseye? Is he gonna make it out

2832
02:03:45,000 --> 02:03:45,920
because he's in the season.

2833
02:03:46,319 --> 02:03:47,800
Speaker 3: So is he is in the season?

2834
02:03:48,079 --> 02:03:48,239
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2835
02:03:48,319 --> 02:03:49,199
Speaker 1: Is he gonna make it out?

2836
02:03:49,359 --> 02:03:51,239
Speaker 4: He's got the suit now too, doesn't he? I think

2837
02:03:51,319 --> 02:03:51,600
he does.

2838
02:03:52,640 --> 02:03:55,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going to be the one that kills Vanessa that.

2839
02:03:55,640 --> 02:03:59,600
Speaker 1: He should fuck af fist does everything. But no, I

2840
02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:02,880
think'll I think they'll keep them. I think I hope

2841
02:04:02,920 --> 02:04:04,880
so too. I want them to keep Ball's eye around.

2842
02:04:05,000 --> 02:04:13,239
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think he's alive. Yeah, who else is there?

2843
02:04:13,319 --> 02:04:14,000
That's kind of everyone?

2844
02:04:14,840 --> 02:04:17,479
Speaker 1: Uh, they're introducing White Tiger, so he could always die.

2845
02:04:17,560 --> 02:04:21,880
He's another street fighter fight character, but like his daughter's

2846
02:04:21,920 --> 02:04:23,760
the more popular one. At one point, there's a big

2847
02:04:23,880 --> 02:04:26,199
rumor that Jennerartago's playing his daughter, but that's not a

2848
02:04:26,279 --> 02:04:26,640
true at all.

2849
02:04:26,680 --> 02:04:29,720
Speaker 4: That's just his name is White Tiger, is what you said? Uh?

2850
02:04:29,840 --> 02:04:30,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, White Tiger.

2851
02:04:31,119 --> 02:04:33,520
Speaker 4: What's the daughter's superhero name, White Tiger.

2852
02:04:33,680 --> 02:04:34,520
Speaker 1: She takes the mantles?

2853
02:04:34,560 --> 02:04:36,079
Speaker 3: Oh okay, good snap card?

2854
02:04:37,239 --> 02:04:41,239
Speaker 1: He dies and she's White Tiger. So I think he'll die.

2855
02:04:41,359 --> 02:04:43,840
And I'm not saying because the actors unfortunately passway since

2856
02:04:43,840 --> 02:04:45,800
they filmed. I just think that they're going to set

2857
02:04:45,880 --> 02:04:47,520
up the daughter taking the mantle.

2858
02:04:47,640 --> 02:04:50,359
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean, yeah, I think we'll get new

2859
02:04:50,359 --> 02:04:53,319
people who die potentially. But yes, I think, especially with

2860
02:04:53,399 --> 02:04:55,760
the season, with the season kind of being split into two,

2861
02:04:56,880 --> 02:04:59,119
like you don't want to overload this first half with

2862
02:04:59,399 --> 02:05:01,560
just bodies, you know, you got.

2863
02:05:01,600 --> 02:05:03,600
Speaker 2: To save some of that too.

2864
02:05:03,720 --> 02:05:04,239
Speaker 5: Who will die?

2865
02:05:04,319 --> 02:05:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure new girlfriend. I don't know her name, but

2866
02:05:07,079 --> 02:05:08,359
she's a girl. I don't know what she does if

2867
02:05:08,399 --> 02:05:10,840
not looked into. But he does have a new like girlfriend, Like,

2868
02:05:11,279 --> 02:05:13,600
does she die? Does she know he's daredel does she not?

2869
02:05:13,840 --> 02:05:16,560
Like there's another storyline where I don't also need where

2870
02:05:16,600 --> 02:05:20,279
It's like I love that we have Foggy in Karen.

2871
02:05:20,319 --> 02:05:22,920
They know he's Daredevil. That's not that's checked off. If

2872
02:05:22,960 --> 02:05:25,000
we just get to like, oh, he's got another girl

2873
02:05:25,039 --> 02:05:27,079
and she doesn't know, I don't need that. I also

2874
02:05:27,119 --> 02:05:28,439
don't need that in the show for me.

2875
02:05:29,399 --> 02:05:33,279
Speaker 5: Good point. I think he I think they break up

2876
02:05:33,319 --> 02:05:35,960
early on because he's too busy being Daredevil.

2877
02:05:36,359 --> 02:05:39,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think she dies. I think I can see

2878
02:05:39,840 --> 02:05:40,560
Fist killing her.

2879
02:05:41,319 --> 02:05:43,680
Speaker 3: Jesus a Vanessa for Vanessa.

2880
02:05:43,960 --> 02:05:51,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I took your Vanessa. Her name is Sharon. Any

2881
02:05:51,520 --> 02:05:53,960
other other than I know to something cooking over there,

2882
02:05:54,000 --> 02:05:58,079
but anything else prediction wise, we've not covered post credits.

2883
02:05:58,239 --> 02:06:00,760
I just feel like, yeah, Punisher, so they've dared all

2884
02:06:00,840 --> 02:06:06,560
season two probably like those two things. Yeah Jones, is

2885
02:06:06,560 --> 02:06:08,359
that where you could see Jones? Like if you were

2886
02:06:08,439 --> 02:06:12,439
to do something Jones wouldn't be massive. It's just like

2887
02:06:12,800 --> 02:06:17,960
Harrison Ford. Hey, Red, it was like Time Traveler now

2888
02:06:18,479 --> 02:06:18,880
Red Hule.

2889
02:06:19,000 --> 02:06:22,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, season two is it? Is it coming next year?

2890
02:06:22,439 --> 02:06:22,680
For sure?

2891
02:06:22,680 --> 02:06:24,359
Speaker 1: At this That's what they said this week.

2892
02:06:24,600 --> 02:06:26,079
Speaker 5: So I just I just like there's not a lot

2893
02:06:26,119 --> 02:06:29,279
of There isn't really room to do some big setting

2894
02:06:29,319 --> 02:06:31,439
them up for Avengers kind of thing right just because

2895
02:06:31,479 --> 02:06:34,039
of that, So I think it will just be boring,

2896
02:06:34,399 --> 02:06:36,319
Like how how how long ago do you guys think

2897
02:06:36,319 --> 02:06:38,119
they knew they were gonna do this Punisher thing? Because

2898
02:06:38,159 --> 02:06:40,640
that's news now, But like has that been in the

2899
02:06:40,720 --> 02:06:42,520
work so or is that a pretty knee jerk reaction

2900
02:06:42,640 --> 02:06:45,159
to recent developments and other cancelations.

2901
02:06:45,479 --> 02:06:47,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough because they canceled those three shows and

2902
02:06:47,600 --> 02:06:51,479
there's other things. I would say in Q four they

2903
02:06:51,600 --> 02:06:53,640
probably sat across it.

2904
02:06:53,760 --> 02:06:56,079
Speaker 5: Okay, So I'm gonna say that maybe that's not what

2905
02:06:56,159 --> 02:06:58,600
we're gonna get here. Then there's a post credit. Maybe

2906
02:06:58,640 --> 02:07:01,239
that's just too reactive enough in development, you know, you

2907
02:07:01,439 --> 02:07:03,479
know they can quickly film one scene and throw it

2908
02:07:03,520 --> 02:07:03,800
in there.

2909
02:07:03,840 --> 02:07:06,159
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was gonna say. I guess they did

2910
02:07:06,239 --> 02:07:08,119
say that that Punishing things come out next year, though,

2911
02:07:08,199 --> 02:07:10,039
So I feel like they're confident enough to be far

2912
02:07:10,159 --> 02:07:12,439
along toy, like, yeah, it's coming out next year. Oestly

2913
02:07:12,560 --> 02:07:15,079
the delight. It's gonna always happen, right, but yeah, I

2914
02:07:15,079 --> 02:07:18,880
don't know. Yeah, yeah, all right, Taylor, let's end this

2915
02:07:18,960 --> 02:07:21,680
episode laying honest. Well, we'll take another ad break and

2916
02:07:21,720 --> 02:07:24,439
then lay it on. We'll be right back. All right,

2917
02:07:24,479 --> 02:07:25,319
We're back just in case.

2918
02:07:25,439 --> 02:07:26,840
Speaker 5: Sorry, one other thing. Do you guys think this show

2919
02:07:26,920 --> 02:07:28,560
is gonna do well? Numbers wise? Is it gonna is

2920
02:07:28,600 --> 02:07:30,479
it gonna break some records? Is it gonna be a

2921
02:07:30,560 --> 02:07:32,960
part for the Coorus, middle of the pack, bottom tier,

2922
02:07:33,119 --> 02:07:34,760
Disney plus? Where's this one going?

2923
02:07:36,680 --> 02:07:38,520
Speaker 1: I hope we get the numbers. I mean, I say,

2924
02:07:38,640 --> 02:07:43,239
like I I was just gonna say bottom of the

2925
02:07:43,359 --> 02:07:45,159
top tier, but I'm just I just don't know what

2926
02:07:45,239 --> 02:07:46,800
the hype for Daredevil is like in a good way.

2927
02:07:46,800 --> 02:07:48,960
I could see it being bigger because I think bottom

2928
02:07:49,000 --> 02:07:50,640
of the top tiers like Moon Night, because I think

2929
02:07:50,640 --> 02:07:56,159
it's like like low Key WandaVision, Falcon, Hawkeye and Mood.

2930
02:07:56,199 --> 02:07:57,800
I think actually Moon Night is like tied with Hawk

2931
02:07:57,920 --> 02:07:59,079
Art something, So I feel like it's gonna be like

2932
02:07:59,119 --> 02:08:02,159
in the ball like the Hawk moon Night Realm. That's

2933
02:08:02,159 --> 02:08:02,600
what I'm thinking.

2934
02:08:02,720 --> 02:08:06,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say upper echelon of those tiers,

2935
02:08:06,880 --> 02:08:09,039
but like what you said, Travis like the bottom of

2936
02:08:09,880 --> 02:08:11,359
the upper being.

2937
02:08:11,319 --> 02:08:14,359
Speaker 1: Loki, you know, or Wanda like not being those two.

2938
02:08:14,520 --> 02:08:17,720
Speaker 5: So I'll go I'll go number three. It becomes the third,

2939
02:08:18,479 --> 02:08:21,199
your Valcan Winter Soldier. I could see that, sure, why not?

2940
02:08:22,680 --> 02:08:25,800
Speaker 4: I could see three or four? I'm with you? Doan nice.

2941
02:08:27,319 --> 02:08:29,720
Speaker 1: All right? Hey? What was the prompt you uh put

2942
02:08:29,760 --> 02:08:31,800
in the chatpt to get? Did you ask for a

2943
02:08:31,840 --> 02:08:34,640
season four? Did you ask for a season to show television?

2944
02:08:34,640 --> 02:08:35,359
Would you ask it for?

2945
02:08:36,000 --> 02:08:36,119
Speaker 7: Uh?

2946
02:08:36,279 --> 02:08:36,319
Speaker 6: So?

2947
02:08:36,479 --> 02:08:39,039
Speaker 4: First I said, uh, do you know the Disney Plus

2948
02:08:39,079 --> 02:08:40,560
serious Hawkeye and Echoes? Like yes?

2949
02:08:40,600 --> 02:08:43,560
Speaker 7: Since that I wanted to make sure it knew its history,

2950
02:08:43,760 --> 02:08:45,479
just to pull from. And then I said, okay, perfect.

2951
02:08:45,680 --> 02:08:48,119
Are you also familiar with the Netflix show Daredevil and

2952
02:08:48,159 --> 02:08:51,680
the other characters affiliated with that for Dared Devil's three seasons?

2953
02:08:51,800 --> 02:08:53,800
Speaker 5: Like yes, yes, but I haven't seen Defenders?

2954
02:08:53,880 --> 02:08:54,119
Speaker 6: Is that what?

2955
02:08:55,399 --> 02:08:55,600
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2956
02:08:55,960 --> 02:08:58,640
Speaker 1: He knows Defenders? No, never heard of it?

2957
02:09:00,079 --> 02:09:02,039
Speaker 4: Oh, I wrote, okay, perfect?

2958
02:09:02,079 --> 02:09:04,399
Speaker 7: So between that Netflix series and the two Disney Plus

2959
02:09:04,520 --> 02:09:07,159
series and and other appearances with Dared Devil, can you

2960
02:09:07,239 --> 02:09:09,119
write me a one season story for the new.

2961
02:09:10,319 --> 02:09:11,600
Speaker 5: Just fucking bought over here?

2962
02:09:13,079 --> 02:09:16,159
Speaker 7: So that's why that's why I basically dropped it. I

2963
02:09:16,239 --> 02:09:18,000
also mentioned too, like make sure you know that this

2964
02:09:18,119 --> 02:09:20,800
is connecting into the larger, overall Marvel Somatic universe.

2965
02:09:21,159 --> 02:09:25,960
Speaker 4: But that's that's it, So goddamn it starts it starts off.

2966
02:09:26,640 --> 02:09:27,680
It's the main show.

2967
02:09:28,079 --> 02:09:30,840
Speaker 7: The name of this show is called Daredevil Shadow War

2968
02:09:31,680 --> 02:09:34,560
instead of Born Again, and like, I.

2969
02:09:34,600 --> 02:09:36,640
Speaker 1: Hate that they're calling it born again. That was season

2970
02:09:36,680 --> 02:09:38,199
three they adapted to the storyline.

2971
02:09:38,239 --> 02:09:41,239
Speaker 7: But here we are so uh so Episode one, the

2972
02:09:41,319 --> 02:09:44,640
Devil's Return. Matt Murdoch, now a low profile defense attorney

2973
02:09:44,680 --> 02:09:46,880
after the events of She Hulk, is reluctantly pulled back

2974
02:09:46,880 --> 02:09:49,760
into action when Karen Page and Foggy Nelson, I gotta

2975
02:09:49,760 --> 02:09:53,279
stop your ready, they say, he's a low profile defense attorney.

2976
02:09:53,640 --> 02:09:55,319
Speaker 1: That, yeah, it would make no sense. It's like the

2977
02:09:55,439 --> 02:09:56,880
last thing I saw of his case with Spider Man,

2978
02:09:56,920 --> 02:09:58,640
which would be one of the biggest cases in the world.

2979
02:09:58,760 --> 02:10:01,760
You're you're now defending the guy that they revealed a

2980
02:10:01,840 --> 02:10:02,960
Spider Man Avenger.

2981
02:10:03,119 --> 02:10:05,279
Speaker 5: There's no one remembers Spider Man.

2982
02:10:05,479 --> 02:10:07,880
Speaker 7: No one remembers that Peter Parker Spider Man. So it's

2983
02:10:07,920 --> 02:10:09,560
not there's still a record of that anymore.

2984
02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:12,319
Speaker 1: But that doesn't make sense. So we're not gonna get.

2985
02:10:12,239 --> 02:10:15,039
Speaker 4: Into that record because it would have been wiped doctor

2986
02:10:15,079 --> 02:10:15,840
Strange magic.

2987
02:10:16,479 --> 02:10:19,279
Speaker 1: So what about like all all the records in the

2988
02:10:19,359 --> 02:10:22,800
court would be wiped, so all footage of Peter Parker

2989
02:10:22,840 --> 02:10:25,640
would be wiped to he doesn't know that's what happened.

2990
02:10:26,119 --> 02:10:28,520
It said that people forgot about Peter Parker, not that

2991
02:10:28,560 --> 02:10:29,239
he didn't exist.

2992
02:10:29,960 --> 02:10:31,399
Speaker 4: So then the case would be forgotten about.

2993
02:10:32,279 --> 02:10:34,239
Speaker 1: But there's still a video footage of Peter Parker. No

2994
02:10:34,239 --> 02:10:37,880
one's gonna and there's still a thing of like Spider

2995
02:10:37,960 --> 02:10:42,079
Man was defended. People, people know of Spider Man, they

2996
02:10:42,159 --> 02:10:47,439
know who Spider Man is. Yeah, but but Matt Murdoch

2997
02:10:47,479 --> 02:10:48,640
defended Spider Man.

2998
02:10:48,720 --> 02:10:49,640
Speaker 4: Defended Peter.

2999
02:10:51,199 --> 02:10:52,199
Speaker 1: For being Spider Man.

3000
02:10:53,479 --> 02:10:55,720
Speaker 4: I think I don't think it's gonna work out in court.

3001
02:10:55,800 --> 02:11:01,399
Speaker 1: I think everyone know thum Ding after all. Okay, low profile.

3002
02:11:01,520 --> 02:11:04,600
Speaker 7: Sure, Yeah, So Karen Page and Foggy Nelson cover evidence

3003
02:11:04,640 --> 02:11:09,680
that Fisk is rigging the upcoming mayoral election. At the

3004
02:11:09,720 --> 02:11:12,800
same time, Peter Parker Spider Man investigates a series of

3005
02:11:12,800 --> 02:11:15,159
brutal gang killings that seemed connected.

3006
02:11:15,279 --> 02:11:22,880
Speaker 1: Brutal gang gang killings. Oh geez, sure, bloody.

3007
02:11:23,359 --> 02:11:26,840
Speaker 7: Brutal gangkillings that seemed connected to someone he thought had disappeared.

3008
02:11:26,960 --> 02:11:30,479
Frank Castle Uh Daredevil suits up again, only to find

3009
02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:31,960
Fisk's reaches deeper than ever.

3010
02:11:32,159 --> 02:11:35,239
Speaker 4: In a shocking moment, Foggy is murdered.

3011
02:11:35,159 --> 02:11:38,600
Speaker 5: By Wait this episode one still is episode one.

3012
02:11:38,720 --> 02:11:43,399
Speaker 7: Yeah, Foggy's gone, sending Matt into a spiral of guilt

3013
02:11:43,439 --> 02:11:47,680
and rage. Meanwhile, Vanesca Vanessa Fisk is seen pulling political

3014
02:11:47,680 --> 02:11:48,760
strings behind the scenes.

3015
02:11:48,840 --> 02:11:52,279
Speaker 1: Lost Vanessa in the blimp vanessca.

3016
02:11:53,399 --> 02:11:55,520
Speaker 5: This episode is six hours long.

3017
02:11:55,640 --> 02:11:57,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, on here.

3018
02:11:58,239 --> 02:12:01,079
Speaker 7: So she's pulling political strings behind the scenes and showing

3019
02:12:01,119 --> 02:12:04,560
her husband's rise to power. Episode two, The King City,

3020
02:12:04,680 --> 02:12:07,560
Fisk wins the election, making it nearly impossible to touch

3021
02:12:07,600 --> 02:12:10,520
him legally. His first order a new anti vigilante task

3022
02:12:10,600 --> 02:12:14,920
force led by a dangerous figure Benjamin Point Dexter Bullseye Fresher,

3023
02:12:15,000 --> 02:12:20,800
released from a hidden government government facility and under Fisk's control. Matt,

3024
02:12:21,079 --> 02:12:24,760
grieving Foggy's death, struggles with his morality, while Karen spirals

3025
02:12:24,800 --> 02:12:26,680
into reckless investigative journalism.

3026
02:12:27,119 --> 02:12:29,159
Speaker 4: Jaredevil spider Man Crossed Pass.

3027
02:12:30,560 --> 02:12:32,760
Speaker 5: Spirals into reckless journalism.

3028
02:12:33,439 --> 02:12:35,920
Speaker 4: Reckless investigative journalism.

3029
02:12:36,319 --> 02:12:38,439
Speaker 1: Spirals into something else because she's like a drug addict.

3030
02:12:38,439 --> 02:12:40,479
I thought that too, so I thought that's where we're going.

3031
02:12:40,560 --> 02:12:42,840
Speaker 5: But reckless journalism is like an oxy moral.

3032
02:12:42,960 --> 02:12:43,840
Speaker 3: That is crazy.

3033
02:12:44,199 --> 02:12:47,720
Speaker 7: Just Frank Castle, Daredevil, and Spider Man cross pass investigating

3034
02:12:47,760 --> 02:12:51,199
the escalating crime wave. Meanwhile, Castle hunts down FISKS lieutenants,

3035
02:12:51,600 --> 02:12:54,560
brutally executing them one by one, leaving the city in terror.

3036
02:12:55,000 --> 02:12:58,039
Vanessa meanwhile begins to question the extent of her husband's brutality,

3037
02:12:58,119 --> 02:12:59,600
creating subtle tension between them.

3038
02:13:00,399 --> 02:13:04,199
Speaker 1: Okay, come on season four and you're like, maybe he's

3039
02:13:04,239 --> 02:13:04,800
a bad guy.

3040
02:13:08,560 --> 02:13:11,319
Speaker 7: Episode three, Shadows and Symbols, Jared, Devil and Spider Man

3041
02:13:11,319 --> 02:13:14,640
investigate a secret arms deal between FISKS people and rogue

3042
02:13:14,640 --> 02:13:17,600
remnants of the Hand. Peter, still adjusting to being completely

3043
02:13:17,640 --> 02:13:20,319
forgotten by the world, confides in Mad about his struggles.

3044
02:13:21,279 --> 02:13:22,199
Speaker 4: Meanwhile Frank.

3045
02:13:25,000 --> 02:13:33,600
Speaker 7: Meanwhile, Frank captures and tortures a high ranking crime boss,

3046
02:13:33,720 --> 02:13:36,199
uncovering evidence that Fisk has a hidden agenda beyond mere

3047
02:13:36,239 --> 02:13:39,680
political power point. Dexter begins his relentless hunt for Daredevil,

3048
02:13:39,760 --> 02:13:42,039
leading to a brutal rooftop battle that ends with Matt

3049
02:13:42,159 --> 02:13:46,840
barely escaping. Vanessa plays a quiet of pivotal role organizing

3050
02:13:46,840 --> 02:13:50,560
alliances between her husband's criminal associates whoever. Frank, having uncovered

3051
02:13:50,560 --> 02:13:52,039
her involvement, ambushes her at.

3052
02:13:52,000 --> 02:13:55,640
Speaker 4: A private gala. She narrowly escapes with her life shaken,

3053
02:13:55,680 --> 02:13:58,079
but determined that does.

3054
02:13:58,000 --> 02:14:00,199
Speaker 1: Have to be probably one of most scary things where

3055
02:14:00,199 --> 02:14:02,479
you just see, like door gets kicked and it's just

3056
02:14:02,600 --> 02:14:03,119
Frank the.

3057
02:14:03,479 --> 02:14:05,960
Speaker 2: Skull in the war machine.

3058
02:14:10,880 --> 02:14:11,800
Speaker 1: This is The Ex Wife.

3059
02:14:13,760 --> 02:14:15,239
Speaker 4: Episode four, Blood on the Streets.

3060
02:14:15,399 --> 02:14:18,560
Speaker 7: Fisk unveils the citywide surveillance system to track down vigilantes,

3061
02:14:18,680 --> 02:14:22,079
forcing Matt, Peter, and Frank to rethink their approach. Karen

3062
02:14:22,159 --> 02:14:26,239
is hospitalized, leaving Matt feeling utterly alone. Fisk personally lures

3063
02:14:26,319 --> 02:14:28,000
Daredevil into a trap, leading to one of the most

3064
02:14:28,000 --> 02:14:31,520
brutal fights in the series. Pointdexter mortally wounds Jessica Jones,

3065
02:14:31,560 --> 02:14:33,600
who sacrifices herself to save Matt and.

3066
02:14:35,000 --> 02:14:38,079
Speaker 1: For one Hey Christy, we like you back. I just

3067
02:14:38,119 --> 02:14:39,920
got some question about the script. I'm coming back and

3068
02:14:39,960 --> 02:14:42,159
you're gonna kill me all. Yeah, we want to close

3069
02:14:42,199 --> 02:14:42,960
out the Netflix.

3070
02:14:45,039 --> 02:14:45,279
Speaker 4: Wow.

3071
02:14:45,720 --> 02:14:47,640
Speaker 1: So Bullseye kills her, You're.

3072
02:14:47,520 --> 02:14:49,880
Speaker 4: Saying, boys, Bullseye kills her. Yeah.

3073
02:14:50,399 --> 02:14:54,279
Speaker 7: She sacrifices herself to save Matt, in an alleyway ambush. Meanwhile, Castle,

3074
02:14:54,319 --> 02:14:56,920
and an act of sheer vengeance, executes an entire gang

3075
02:14:57,000 --> 02:14:58,199
oil to Fisk, leaving a.

3076
02:14:58,199 --> 02:15:03,720
Speaker 4: Bloody message no King, Holy Shit.

3077
02:15:04,880 --> 02:15:07,840
Speaker 7: Vanessa, still reeling from her near death experience, urges Fists

3078
02:15:07,880 --> 02:15:11,359
to consider an exit strategy before they lose everything. Episode five,

3079
02:15:11,439 --> 02:15:15,439
No Man's Land, Uh We Got Yeah? Okay, This and

3080
02:15:15,560 --> 02:15:19,199
three more episodes with the city in lockdown, vigilantes being hunted,

3081
02:15:19,239 --> 02:15:22,359
Daredevil spider Man Frank Castle form an uneasy alliance. Karen

3082
02:15:22,439 --> 02:15:25,079
is kidnapped by Fisks men and used as bait. Peter

3083
02:15:25,199 --> 02:15:28,520
infiltrates Fist tower and covering files indicating a secret project,

3084
02:15:28,600 --> 02:15:31,399
The Rebirth Initiative, an attempt to create super.

3085
02:15:31,279 --> 02:15:32,920
Speaker 4: Enhanced enforcers loyal to Fisk.

3086
02:15:33,720 --> 02:15:38,039
Speaker 7: Meanwhile, Bullseye, now completely unhinged, tracks down and kills Detective Mahoney,

3087
02:15:38,520 --> 02:15:42,479
a long time ally of Matt's, intensifying the Steaks. Vanessa,

3088
02:15:42,600 --> 02:15:45,279
realizing Fisk will never stop, begins making plans of her own.

3089
02:15:46,960 --> 02:15:50,399
Episode six, War on two fronts. As Castle continues his war,

3090
02:15:50,680 --> 02:15:53,199
he faces off the gamest fisks personal enforcer and old

3091
02:15:53,239 --> 02:15:59,680
adversary John Pilgrim from Punished for season two okay. Meanwhile,

3092
02:15:59,680 --> 02:16:02,439
Matt breaks into a high security black site to rescue Karen,

3093
02:16:02,520 --> 02:16:05,159
only to find her tortured and barely alive. Spider Man

3094
02:16:05,239 --> 02:16:08,199
battles Bullseye and a high speechase across the city skyline,

3095
02:16:08,239 --> 02:16:11,279
leading to a shocking moment. Bullseye nearly kills Peter, only

3096
02:16:11,319 --> 02:16:12,319
for Daredevil to save him.

3097
02:16:12,319 --> 02:16:15,199
Speaker 4: At the last second. Fisk orders full martial law in

3098
02:16:15,199 --> 02:16:17,039
Hell's kitchen. They can't clear that no one is saved.

3099
02:16:17,760 --> 02:16:21,319
In a grim turn, Frank is captured and publicly executed

3100
02:16:21,359 --> 02:16:22,399
by fisks forces.

3101
02:16:22,920 --> 02:16:29,319
Speaker 1: My wow, So wait, never see Punisher and Kingpin fight.

3102
02:16:29,479 --> 02:16:35,639
It's just Kingston's forces execute you know, Berthall would fucking

3103
02:16:35,799 --> 02:16:37,120
kill that scene though, like the.

3104
02:16:38,600 --> 02:16:45,040
Speaker 4: Do it like you would destroy that scene sending sending

3105
02:16:45,040 --> 02:16:47,559
a terrifying message to the city. Vanessa seeing the monster

3106
02:16:47,680 --> 02:16:50,959
Fisk has become against contemplating leaving him for killed the.

3107
02:16:53,840 --> 02:16:58,639
Speaker 1: Trying to kill her one of the most diabolical motherfuckers

3108
02:16:58,719 --> 02:17:02,600
in comics history. Like, I can't believe you killed a Punisher, Wilson,

3109
02:17:02,639 --> 02:17:03,360
How could you do that?

3110
02:17:04,799 --> 02:17:07,120
Speaker 7: Episode seven, The Fall of the King, The final battle

3111
02:17:07,159 --> 02:17:09,520
begins Daredevil, Spider Man, and what remains of the street

3112
02:17:09,559 --> 02:17:12,959
level heroes, launching all out assault on FISKS Empire. Luke

3113
02:17:13,040 --> 02:17:15,719
Cage arrives, but even he is overwhelmed by Fisks sheer

3114
02:17:15,760 --> 02:17:16,360
brute force.

3115
02:17:16,799 --> 02:17:20,000
Speaker 5: Okay, does he die or is he just getting knocked out?

3116
02:17:20,799 --> 02:17:21,440
Speaker 4: Overwhelmed?

3117
02:17:23,280 --> 02:17:26,200
Speaker 1: Cake fan I can sometimes be like two percent body fat.

3118
02:17:26,479 --> 02:17:30,120
Luke Cage can take Bazukas to the chest like he should.

3119
02:17:29,879 --> 02:17:36,520
Speaker 8: Do, like he gets between him and Vanessa though Yeah, okay,

3120
02:17:38,200 --> 02:17:41,399
Karen barely able to walk, helps expose FISKS crimes.

3121
02:17:41,159 --> 02:17:41,799
Speaker 4: To the public.

3122
02:17:42,440 --> 02:17:48,840
Speaker 1: What a terrible season for her? Sad hospitalized, kidnapped, torture, Yeah,

3123
02:17:49,079 --> 02:17:50,879
jesus barely dog he's dead?

3124
02:17:52,479 --> 02:17:55,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, helps expose FIST crimes to the public, triggering mass riots.

3125
02:17:55,559 --> 02:17:59,799
In a brutal confrontation, Daredevil finally beats bulls Eye, leaving

3126
02:17:59,879 --> 02:18:00,760
him paralyzed.

3127
02:18:01,159 --> 02:18:03,799
Speaker 4: Peter sabotagees Fisk surveillance.

3128
02:18:03,399 --> 02:18:07,200
Speaker 7: Network, exposing his dark as secrets, and Fisk, however, refuses

3129
02:18:07,280 --> 02:18:11,000
to go down, easily killing several police officers they attempt

3130
02:18:11,040 --> 02:18:11,920
to arrest him.

3131
02:18:15,239 --> 02:18:15,920
Speaker 4: During the battle.

3132
02:18:16,040 --> 02:18:17,559
Speaker 1: What did happen to Luke Cage?

3133
02:18:17,639 --> 02:18:25,920
Speaker 8: So he was just overwhelmed here guys, sorry next time?

3134
02:18:28,239 --> 02:18:30,360
Speaker 7: So yeah, killing several police officers the attend to arrest

3135
02:18:30,399 --> 02:18:33,200
him during the Battle of Vanessa. Vanessa is Treasury killed

3136
02:18:33,200 --> 02:18:36,239
in an accident falling from a high rise balcony. Ad

3137
02:18:36,280 --> 02:18:41,520
missed the chaos as both Wilson, Fisk, and dared to

3138
02:18:41,520 --> 02:18:42,479
Will witness her death.

3139
02:18:43,120 --> 02:18:43,239
Speaker 1: Uh.

3140
02:18:43,719 --> 02:18:45,319
Speaker 4: A rage field breakdown.

3141
02:18:44,959 --> 02:18:47,799
Speaker 7: Fisk fights Matt with a level of brutality never seen before,

3142
02:18:47,920 --> 02:18:52,040
leading to their final showdown, Episode eight, The Devil's Reckoning

3143
02:18:52,479 --> 02:18:53,680
with Fisk and custody.

3144
02:18:53,760 --> 02:19:00,040
Speaker 4: Oh, I guess that's it. You got arrested, showed.

3145
02:18:59,760 --> 02:19:01,920
Speaker 1: On You've never seen before. What was the last line

3146
02:19:01,959 --> 02:19:02,559
that episode again?

3147
02:19:02,680 --> 02:19:03,280
Speaker 4: Can you read that again?

3148
02:19:03,479 --> 02:19:03,600
Speaker 1: Uh?

3149
02:19:04,280 --> 02:19:07,000
Speaker 7: Fisk fights Matt with a level of brutality and brutality

3150
02:19:07,120 --> 02:19:09,040
never seen before, leading to their final showdown.

3151
02:19:09,520 --> 02:19:12,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like snack kicking his ass anyways.

3152
02:19:12,319 --> 02:19:15,959
Speaker 4: And he just can't serve this episode. He's in cuffs, he.

3153
02:19:16,079 --> 02:19:18,479
Speaker 1: Like cut to black. Oh I can't see that was

3154
02:19:18,639 --> 02:19:20,120
just like, Oh, you got me man.

3155
02:19:21,840 --> 02:19:23,559
Speaker 7: Matt reflects on what it means to be dared Devil.

3156
02:19:23,639 --> 02:19:26,959
Karen leaves New York unable to endure more loss. Peter,

3157
02:19:27,200 --> 02:19:30,000
still anonymous, thanks Matt for his help before disappearing into

3158
02:19:30,040 --> 02:19:32,719
the night, and a grim turned Fisk from his prison

3159
02:19:32,840 --> 02:19:35,920
cell orchestrates another major attack, killing several key figures in

3160
02:19:35,959 --> 02:19:38,600
New York's law enforcement, proving that his grip on the

3161
02:19:38,680 --> 02:19:39,479
city remains.

3162
02:19:42,360 --> 02:19:46,360
Speaker 4: Matt's roof top realizes his war is far from over.

3163
02:19:48,239 --> 02:19:50,600
Speaker 1: Wuck him up and fas like, I'm just gonna killmore. Please,

3164
02:19:50,959 --> 02:19:51,760
let's get doing it.

3165
02:19:51,799 --> 02:19:54,879
Speaker 7: Okay, So, so, okay, that's it. In a post credit scene,

3166
02:19:55,600 --> 02:20:00,000
the Devil's Bargain in a dimly lit high tech facilit

3167
02:20:00,639 --> 02:20:08,399
A shadowed figure dimly let high tech facility.

3168
02:20:09,559 --> 02:20:12,920
Speaker 5: Okay, it's so fucking dim Like.

3169
02:20:13,000 --> 02:20:14,239
Speaker 3: I'm sure they can get the better lady.

3170
02:20:14,520 --> 02:20:17,040
Speaker 1: Remember they did that with Moon. I remember Ethan Hawk

3171
02:20:17,120 --> 02:20:19,479
the final boss fight. They did that. He just woke

3172
02:20:19,559 --> 02:20:21,879
up and he was standing over Ethan Hawk and they're like, oh,

3173
02:20:21,920 --> 02:20:24,440
that was this third personality that did it. But yeah,

3174
02:20:24,520 --> 02:20:26,120
they could. That's what they're gonna do.

3175
02:20:26,639 --> 02:20:27,000
Speaker 4: I did not.

3176
02:20:27,760 --> 02:20:28,040
Speaker 3: I don't.

3177
02:20:28,319 --> 02:20:30,079
Speaker 4: Uh So.

3178
02:20:30,120 --> 02:20:33,360
Speaker 7: A shadowed figure walks past rows of heavily armed guards,

3179
02:20:33,399 --> 02:20:36,280
stopping at a reinforced cell door inside a bruised and

3180
02:20:36,360 --> 02:20:39,719
bloodied Wilson Fisk sits staring ahead emotionless.

3181
02:20:40,200 --> 02:20:43,360
Speaker 4: The door hisses open, and the visitor steps forward. A tall,

3182
02:20:43,559 --> 02:20:46,760
imposing man in a long coat. As he steps into

3183
02:20:46,760 --> 02:20:49,600
the light, his face is revealed. Barren Zemo.

3184
02:20:51,159 --> 02:20:53,280
Speaker 7: You took quite the beating, Zemo says in a cold,

3185
02:20:53,319 --> 02:20:56,719
measured voice. But men like us we never truly lose.

3186
02:20:56,840 --> 02:20:59,920
Speaker 4: We just wait for the right time. Fisk, without looking up,

3187
02:21:00,079 --> 02:21:04,000
smirks slightly. And what time is that? Zimo leans in

3188
02:21:04,399 --> 02:21:09,879
his gloved ten tap in the table. Time over real

3189
02:21:09,959 --> 02:21:10,719
war begins.

3190
02:21:11,360 --> 02:21:15,559
Speaker 1: We're going, NASA's Gonecus harasses Fisks face.

3191
02:21:16,319 --> 02:21:17,879
Speaker 5: Then, like me and you, we got to stick together

3192
02:21:17,959 --> 02:21:20,079
and do something about this town. Whatever. That's just the

3193
02:21:20,159 --> 02:21:24,520
same quote from fucking morbious Fisc has never been so hard.

3194
02:21:26,799 --> 02:21:27,079
Speaker 1: That's it.

3195
02:21:27,559 --> 02:21:27,840
Speaker 4: That's it.

3196
02:21:28,479 --> 02:21:30,959
Speaker 1: Perfect. Well, Asia, and there you go. We will be

3197
02:21:31,120 --> 02:21:34,600
back next week. If you like Daredevil. We got this guest,

3198
02:21:34,680 --> 02:21:36,920
we just did. You got the retrospectives. You got a

3199
02:21:36,920 --> 02:21:39,000
whole bunch of stuff. Go check that out. But we

3200
02:21:39,040 --> 02:21:41,559
will be reviewing it weekly and it will not be

3201
02:21:42,000 --> 02:21:43,680
boring by