WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:02.960 And we continue on bread Rogan, Rodney, Pete not a 2 00:00:03.120 --> 00:00:04.719 five to seventy LA Sports. 3 00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:06.000 Don't forget. 4 00:00:06.040 --> 00:00:08.960 We stream live all over the world on the iHeartRadio app. 5 00:00:09.000 --> 00:00:11.080 Download the app. You can stream the show wherever you go. 6 00:00:11.119 --> 00:00:13.080 And if you miss any part of it, go on 7 00:00:13.160 --> 00:00:15.320 back listen to the podcast because Kevin puts it up 8 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:17.399 a minute we get off the air. If you didn't 9 00:00:17.440 --> 00:00:19.920 hear our one, you didn't miss much. No, that's not true. 10 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:23.600 That's not true, Rodney, that's not true. Freddy, Come on, 11 00:00:23.679 --> 00:00:25.960 of course you miss something. So anyway, get the app 12 00:00:26.519 --> 00:00:28.280 and take us wherever you go. 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If you were sitting in 25 00:01:01.439 --> 00:01:04.400 Stan Casten's chair or Mark Walter's chair and you heard 26 00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:06.400 accusations like that, what would you say. 27 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:13.200 I'd probably laugh. You know, it's a competitive business and 28 00:01:13.239 --> 00:01:15.680 if you can't keep the pace, maybe it shouldn't be 29 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:20.480 into business. But LA may be the number one sports 30 00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:26.519 destination spot in North America. Dodgers and what they've done 31 00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:31.519 is phenomenal. How they've structured contracts deferred plus signing bonuses. 32 00:01:32.239 --> 00:01:35.920 Who they can attract to come and play for this club. Hey, 33 00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:40.120 people can complain about it, but to me, it's more 34 00:01:40.239 --> 00:01:43.319 jealousy than it is anything else. Oh, they're not They're 35 00:01:43.359 --> 00:01:46.920 not breaking any rules. They're playing by the rules. And 36 00:01:47.079 --> 00:01:49.480 is it a little bit of a contrary to how 37 00:01:49.519 --> 00:01:51.840 a lot of people think. Yeah, But you know what, 38 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:55.280 that's where greatness comes from. Comes from contrarian thinking many 39 00:01:55.319 --> 00:01:59.000 times and doing something that the competition wouldn't do, wouldn't 40 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:02.319 think of, or couldn't do. Not everybody's going to want 41 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:04.640 to take deferred money to the extent that the players 42 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:07.439 are taking it. But to play in LA, to play 43 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:11.319 for this organization, hey, they'll be fine. 44 00:02:13.039 --> 00:02:16.360 Yeah, mat can you and just explain to our listeners 45 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:21.639 to ned that this whole situation with deferral and defern money, 46 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:26.000 it's not a new thing, right, I Mean, it's been around, 47 00:02:26.199 --> 00:02:29.240 and so the people that think that the Dodgers invented 48 00:02:29.240 --> 00:02:31.479 this and they're changing the rules or anything like that, 49 00:02:31.680 --> 00:02:34.360 it's been around for years. I mean they've been and 50 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:36.840 to your point, there's been people that had done it 51 00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:39.039 successfully and then there's been some other clubs that got 52 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:41.439 in trouble when they had to pay out some of 53 00:02:41.439 --> 00:02:43.680 those deferrals and it didn't work out for them. 54 00:02:43.719 --> 00:02:45.439 But it's been around for a while. 55 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:48.360 But it goes back to the turn of the last 56 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:52.000 century with two thousand and one Diamondbacks if you look 57 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:54.800 deeply into their roster that won the World Series fifty 58 00:02:54.879 --> 00:02:58.000 Yankees in Game seven. If you look at their roster, 59 00:02:58.759 --> 00:03:02.680 their ownership wanted a team that could win, but they 60 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:05.439 couldn't afford to compete with the other big market team, 61 00:03:05.599 --> 00:03:10.479 so they signed players half now half later. And because 62 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:13.280 of that, and to make sure and the union protecting 63 00:03:13.319 --> 00:03:17.960 their constituents their players, they made sure they changed the laws, 64 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:20.400 and not the laws, but the rules a little bit. Well, 65 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:22.599 you could defer, but you had to be able to 66 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:25.240 fund it. You had to be able to prove that 67 00:03:25.280 --> 00:03:28.479 you had it sitting on the side someplace that you 68 00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:29.960 were going to be able to get it when the 69 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:34.639 payment became due. And Arizona kind of changed the line 70 00:03:34.680 --> 00:03:37.400 of thinking and made teams kind of put money aside 71 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:40.719 to do that. But you know, you're from about two 72 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:43.919 thousand and one, that's not long ago where it was 73 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:50.560 a dominant part of the narrative for that postseason. And 74 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:52.960 now they wanted and they did it. But if you 75 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:55.240 look at their star players on that team, half took 76 00:03:55.280 --> 00:03:57.479 their money as they were playing, half took it later, 77 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:00.639 and whether or not they could afford to pay it 78 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:03.879 later maybe became one of the you know, the points 79 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:08.039 of contention that forces teams now to show MLB and 80 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:10.439 to show the union, Yeah, we've got the money set 81 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:12.879 aside here, We're going to grow the money and we're 82 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:15.520 going to use the money. But it's here. And I 83 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:19.959 think when you think about the background of Mark Walter, Todd, Bowley, 84 00:04:20.879 --> 00:04:26.079 Stan Andrew, that entire group magic, you know, that's how 85 00:04:26.120 --> 00:04:29.720 they think. That's like right in their wheelhouse. So that's 86 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:32.279 what they've been able to do, and it keeps their 87 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:35.600 aav a little bit lower. It keeps their their luxury 88 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:38.519 tax a little bit lower. You know, if if a 89 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:41.160 player is going to get forty or fifty million dollars 90 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:45.199 of third ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen years out, you know, 91 00:04:45.240 --> 00:04:47.480 and they're making they've already made fifty and they're going 92 00:04:47.560 --> 00:04:50.399 to make another fifty in the meantime. You know, if 93 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:52.040 you can't get by and then he got away for 94 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:55.240 that deferral check, well kind of you know, shame on you. 95 00:04:55.360 --> 00:04:58.240 But you know, it's all part of the deal. It's 96 00:04:58.279 --> 00:05:01.079 all part of the landscape. They just ahead of the game. 97 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:03.879 They're just smarter than everybody. I'll say one more thing too, 98 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:09.319 about about ownership. There most franchises, and this is a generality, 99 00:05:10.199 --> 00:05:15.079 but most fan bases have a hunger for success larger 100 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:17.480 than the owner. Hey how can we didn't do this? 101 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:19.360 How can we didn't sign that player? Hey, how can 102 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:22.120 we didn't acquire this guy? Hey? Our people are chief, 103 00:05:22.199 --> 00:05:24.240 our people, you know, they want to win. But they 104 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:28.120 want to win you know, the on the the economical 105 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:33.240 feasible side, we don't have that. We have almost the opposite. 106 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:36.800 Even though we have four million pain customers, you know, 107 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:42.319 millions watching the biggest franchise in baseball now global between 108 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:47.279 Japan and Asia and the United States and Latin America Canada. 109 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:51.519 The fan base is massive. The fan base is hungry. 110 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:55.439 But are they hungrier than Mark Walter in San cassid 111 00:05:55.439 --> 00:05:58.480 and Andrew and Todd Bowley and Magic. I don't think 112 00:05:58.480 --> 00:06:01.480 they're hungrier than those guys. Well, we have a unique 113 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:05.399 situation here where the ownership is so driven for success. 114 00:06:05.560 --> 00:06:08.519 I'm not going to rest on a World series in 115 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:11.360 twenty twenty four, in a world series in twenty twenty 116 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:14.639 but hey, you know what, Let's keep going, Let's keep 117 00:06:14.839 --> 00:06:18.240 adding to it, and let's make it as unbeatable as 118 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:20.399 you can be, knowing you still got to play a season, 119 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:23.160 knowing you still got injuries and different things that are 120 00:06:23.199 --> 00:06:26.240 going to come your way. But let's build it to 121 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:29.759 run the table, not only now but for a long time. 122 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:32.839 You know, Ned, I think you make a valid point. 123 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:36.920 Anybody that owns a team cannot plead poverty. But to 124 00:06:36.959 --> 00:06:41.639 be honest, most people cannot generate the revenue of the Dodgers. Nonetheless, 125 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:44.560 they generate revenue, and I think what you see with 126 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:48.959 the Dodgers is they immediately reinvest where there are teams 127 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:54.279 that do not reinvest, and you probably oversaw one of those. 128 00:06:56.439 --> 00:07:01.600 You think, with all due respect and not by your 129 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:04.680 own choice, you would have done it, but a different 130 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:10.120 time anyway, yeap. When teams complain but they're not reinvesting, 131 00:07:10.920 --> 00:07:13.439 do they even have anything to hang their hat on? 132 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:18.399 I don't think so. I don't think so. You know, 133 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:21.600 they it's a perfect I'll call it a storm. But 134 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:25.560 it's a perfect situation for the Dodgers and it's not 135 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:29.959 quite as perfect for other teams. But if you're an agent, 136 00:07:30.199 --> 00:07:33.560 or if you're a player and you have an interest 137 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:35.160 in you're a free agent and you want to go 138 00:07:35.240 --> 00:07:37.240 someplace and you want to win, you're going to have 139 00:07:37.279 --> 00:07:39.959 more money than you know what to do with. You're 140 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:42.720 always asking how about the Dodgers? How about the Dodgers? 141 00:07:42.959 --> 00:07:46.040 You think they're asking, Hey, how about the Giants? You know, no, 142 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:48.759 disrespect them and I love the people there, and stuff 143 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:51.759 like that. But are they saying that, I don't think so. 144 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:54.600 Are they saying the Padres right now? I don't think so. 145 00:07:55.279 --> 00:07:58.800 Who they saying that about the Dodgers? And you might 146 00:07:58.839 --> 00:08:01.959 find a second or third somewhere down the line. But 147 00:08:02.360 --> 00:08:07.279 that's that's it's a very very short list of where 148 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:09.480 players want to play and where they're going to get paid. 149 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:12.399 And maybe you overpaid whatever, but you hear the story, 150 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:14.480 Oh I took less to come here all the time? 151 00:08:14.720 --> 00:08:18.079 Sure or false, who knows, but it's the place to be. 152 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:23.480 One more thought on this, it's and they've had twenty years. 153 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:25.879 I mean, I go back to almost almost twenty years. 154 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:28.360 I'll say, Okay, our time there when won five and 155 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:32.200 nine and lost on the last day six times. You know, 156 00:08:32.240 --> 00:08:36.320 it was good, it was successful. It's been ultra successful since. 157 00:08:36.960 --> 00:08:38.679 I think they're just getting started. 158 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:40.399 Yeah, no, I agree with you. 159 00:08:40.440 --> 00:08:43.480 I think they're just getting started as well and getting 160 00:08:43.480 --> 00:08:45.279 ready to go on a historic run. But when you 161 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:49.080 look at it, ned and I've said this before, Yes, 162 00:08:49.320 --> 00:08:52.759 the Dodgers have got some great players on this team, 163 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:55.519 but there are a lot of great baseball players in 164 00:08:55.559 --> 00:08:57.759 this country, around the world that are in the minor 165 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:02.200 leagues around this this major League baseball, and there's some 166 00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:04.720 other teams with some pretty good rosters. When you look around, 167 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:07.720 you know, you look at the Mets what they're doing, 168 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:09.720 and the Yankees and the Phillies have a really good 169 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:12.799 roster and it's the reason why you haven't seen a 170 00:09:12.919 --> 00:09:15.679 back to back champion since the Yankees did it in 171 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:20.759 the nineties. It's still going to be competitive. And then 172 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:23.840 when you look at how you spend money, and you 173 00:09:23.879 --> 00:09:26.639 can speak to this too. The way the Dodgers spend 174 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:29.799 their money is also smart because there was an argument 175 00:09:29.879 --> 00:09:33.360 that laradyment Reno spent money, but he spent it on 176 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:37.679 some players and maybe aging players, or and didn't spend 177 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:40.120 it in scouting or didn't spend it in the minor 178 00:09:40.200 --> 00:09:42.960 league system and development and all those things. And you 179 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:45.799 have to be a complete franchise, don't you be able 180 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:47.080 to have sustained success? 181 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:50.320 There's no doubt it's it's sort of the toughest thing 182 00:09:50.399 --> 00:09:54.440 to do in athletics. It's tough to win, but it's 183 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:57.840 almost it's ten times harder to win more than once. 184 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:01.480 It's not just twice, as it's far more than that. 185 00:10:02.039 --> 00:10:06.159 But the sustained success is a is a study. I mean, 186 00:10:06.159 --> 00:10:09.639 it's something I actually teach at Pepperdine and we you know, 187 00:10:09.679 --> 00:10:12.720 we owned there's not many teams organizations we can't study 188 00:10:12.759 --> 00:10:15.519 because it doesn't happen yet often. And what are the 189 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:18.600 reasons for it, you know, it's another part of the story. 190 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:22.840 But the Dodgers have and they sustain it. And I 191 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:25.519 worked for Mark Walter and Todd Bowley and Stamsons. But 192 00:10:25.639 --> 00:10:27.679 I think three two and a half seasons the end 193 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:31.320 of two twelve, thirteen and fourteen, and you know, I 194 00:10:31.399 --> 00:10:35.799 went from you know, kind of begging to do stuff, 195 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:39.639 you know, and just you know struggling to you know, 196 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:42.639 to make things work, you know, and I had to 197 00:10:42.679 --> 00:10:44.240 do what I had to do type of thing, you know, 198 00:10:44.679 --> 00:10:48.720 not looking pretty sympathy. That was a job. But when 199 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:52.120 when they came in, I can remember almost immediately the 200 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:56.960 thought process was I went from how are we going 201 00:10:57.039 --> 00:11:00.720 to do this? To you know, we an't almost do 202 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:04.639 too much because because Mark's hunger Ford right out of 203 00:11:04.639 --> 00:11:08.399 the gate was like it blew me away. You know, 204 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:10.200 how about this guy? You like this guy? Oh yeah, 205 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:12.679 we love this guy. Go get him? Like this guy? Yeah, 206 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:14.240 go go get them. I mean, you know, you can't 207 00:11:14.279 --> 00:11:17.240 necessarily do they wait for free agency or wait for 208 00:11:17.279 --> 00:11:20.120 a team to want to unload big time salaries and 209 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:24.279 great players. But it was of all the things in 210 00:11:24.320 --> 00:11:26.480 my career, at all the drastic things that I've seen 211 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:33.440 go from a to Z. His personality, his appetite for success, 212 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:37.120 and his willingness to invest in it and to go 213 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:40.240 all in for it was startling to me. And I 214 00:11:40.240 --> 00:11:42.559 still don't know if I know anybody else in the 215 00:11:42.679 --> 00:11:45.159 sports business, and I've been in it for almost fifty 216 00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:48.759 years at a high level that goes at it the 217 00:11:48.799 --> 00:11:53.840 way Mark and Todd, Stan Andrew Magic go at it 218 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:56.799 and the other ownership parts. I just don't know that 219 00:11:56.879 --> 00:12:00.320 anybody else does that. And look at the success State 220 00:12:00.399 --> 00:12:03.559 had and as I said, I think they're just getting started. 221 00:12:04.039 --> 00:12:06.559 That said, yeah, Philly, you know, teams can win US 222 00:12:06.559 --> 00:12:10.240 George Series and things like that. But as you you know, 223 00:12:10.279 --> 00:12:12.120 and I spent time with the San Diego some San 224 00:12:12.159 --> 00:12:14.679 Diego people about a week ago, and then some American 225 00:12:14.759 --> 00:12:16.960 League people that they had a good run this past 226 00:12:17.000 --> 00:12:19.879 year went to the playoffs, and they all asked, how 227 00:12:19.879 --> 00:12:23.320 do they do this? How do they just keep doing this? 228 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:27.879 Every time you read somebody signing, you know, the elite players, 229 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:31.519 it's always going to the Dodgers. And that's how they 230 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:35.279 do it. They have built a destination, they have built success, 231 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:39.600 they have suctained success, and they are willing to invest 232 00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:43.879 in the product far beyond what anybody ever dreamed anybody 233 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:46.000 would But that's what they do. 234 00:12:47.120 --> 00:12:49.759 Ned colletis where they're speaking about investing in the product. 235 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:52.759 You know, the big catch this year in free agency. 236 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:57.720 Obviously the club signed Blake Snell, Confordo, Tanner Scott, but 237 00:12:57.759 --> 00:13:00.879 the big catch was Sazaki And when it came down 238 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:04.320 to it, despite all the chatter and conversation, and he 239 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:06.639 might want to go to his mentor you darvish, he 240 00:13:06.679 --> 00:13:07.720 may want to go to Toronto. 241 00:13:07.799 --> 00:13:08.799 He really liked the city. 242 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:11.480 He ended up exactly where everybody knew he would end 243 00:13:11.559 --> 00:13:15.240 up with the Dodgers. He's twenty three years old, he's 244 00:13:15.240 --> 00:13:18.879 six foot four. From what you've heard, how good could 245 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:19.200 he be? 246 00:13:20.799 --> 00:13:22.919 Well, I mean there's some miles to go for him, 247 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:27.799 but you're talking about a deluxe skill set and compete 248 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:30.759 and desire not just to be good, not just to 249 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:34.080 be rich and not but to win a championship. I mean, 250 00:13:34.200 --> 00:13:37.039 much like show Hey, much like Mookie, much like Freddie. 251 00:13:37.080 --> 00:13:41.840 I mean, he fits perfectly what has transpired in the 252 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:45.960 last couple of years, which is really the makings of 253 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:51.960 that sustained culture. Sustained success is the next generation. They 254 00:13:51.960 --> 00:13:56.559 are starting to sign Yamamoto Sasaki will start right there. 255 00:13:56.759 --> 00:13:58.960 You're talking about a number one and number two that 256 00:13:59.000 --> 00:14:02.000 are not not old. You know, they're both they're both 257 00:14:02.200 --> 00:14:05.759 learning the major leagues and they've already got two of 258 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:09.960 the equivalent of number one picks, and we're in a 259 00:14:10.080 --> 00:14:13.159 draft if they were draftableth players, not just the first 260 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:17.840 pick in the draft, but undeniably like you don't even 261 00:14:17.919 --> 00:14:20.200 know who two, three, four and five are there so 262 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:23.879 far behind and and that's what they've done. So they're 263 00:14:23.879 --> 00:14:27.960 they're building yet another generation. And they know everything begins 264 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:31.000 and ends with pitching, so they're they're on their way 265 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:33.519 to another generation. That's why I say what I say, 266 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:37.279 they're just getting started. This is just this is mid 267 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:41.519 stream with with you know, more more, more championships and 268 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:44.559 more great days to come. But they're building the second 269 00:14:44.600 --> 00:14:46.480 another generation of players. 270 00:14:47.399 --> 00:14:49.919 Net given all that and given the players, because that's 271 00:14:49.960 --> 00:14:52.720 been a thing, well, Dodger's got all the players, and 272 00:14:52.919 --> 00:14:54.919 they should win it every year, but that's not always 273 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:58.919 the case because you have to manage everything went down 274 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:01.360 last year with all the injuries on the pitching staff 275 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:03.879 and then the bullpen was lights out that helped him 276 00:15:03.879 --> 00:15:04.480 win a title. 277 00:15:06.360 --> 00:15:09.639 How perfect. Is Dave Roberts for this situation? 278 00:15:10.879 --> 00:15:12.320 Oh uh. 279 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:15.159 I've been on your show many times and once in 280 00:15:15.159 --> 00:15:17.519 a while when things are not they never go that bad, 281 00:15:17.600 --> 00:15:19.799 but they start to teeter a little bit. It's all 282 00:15:19.919 --> 00:15:22.240 what about Dave Roberts. You know, fans all the time 283 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:24.759 seeing me know about that. You know, I think he's 284 00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:27.480 done a phenomenal job. And when you put his record 285 00:15:27.600 --> 00:15:30.399 up against those in the Hall of Fame, you take 286 00:15:30.399 --> 00:15:32.720 all the names off it, and you put winning percentage 287 00:15:32.720 --> 00:15:36.840 and put championships you said, put playoff appearances and all 288 00:15:36.879 --> 00:15:39.600 those things next to it. Who do we know that's 289 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:42.759 been better than this? There might be I mean Joe 290 00:15:42.840 --> 00:15:44.879 maybe when he was in New York, you know what, 291 00:15:44.960 --> 00:15:47.720 They may be doing that too as we get going here. 292 00:15:47.919 --> 00:15:50.679 And the Yankees didn't have the run of this Dodger 293 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:55.080 franchise for over a decade, you know, Bobby Cox in Atlanta, Yeah, 294 00:15:55.360 --> 00:15:58.480 great run. Stan was part of that, a lot of divisions, 295 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:03.000 a lot of postseasons one World Series. I think what 296 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:05.639 he has done is phenomenal, and I think how he 297 00:16:05.840 --> 00:16:10.720 does it is a master's class in leadership. He is 298 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:14.399 a player's manager, But that doesn't mean you get away 299 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:17.600 with stuff because the manager is going to say everything 300 00:16:17.720 --> 00:16:22.360 nice about you, even in defeat. No, they're responsible, they respect. 301 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:25.399 I think you know, I'm not in the room, but 302 00:16:25.519 --> 00:16:28.000 I think when you go back to Game four of 303 00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:33.720 the series against San Diego last fall, they're facing elimination, 304 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:37.679 san Diego's got Dylan sees their ace on the mound, 305 00:16:37.919 --> 00:16:42.240 that Dodgers got a bullpen game on the road, and 306 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:44.879 the Dodgers win eight to nothing. I think that, to 307 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:47.879 me was a statement game, not only for the twenty 308 00:16:47.960 --> 00:16:51.799 twenty fourteen honest sway that the World Series, but I 309 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:56.480 think it was a statement game of support for their manager. 310 00:16:56.960 --> 00:17:00.440 Came after Manny matchiado, I'll toss the ball, tour dug 311 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:04.160 out all of that stuff. But you know, who knows 312 00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:06.359 if they lose that game, if Dave is here, I 313 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:08.880 don't have any idea, but there's a possibility I guess 314 00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:12.519 that he wouldn't be here. Maybe slim, but I think 315 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:17.119 when you see players rally for leadership and rally to 316 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:21.160 making sure that this person who's had my back for 317 00:17:21.640 --> 00:17:24.200 a decade now or if you've been here that long 318 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:27.359 type of thing. But my entire Dodger career, for the 319 00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:30.160 most part, you stand up for that and you see 320 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:33.160 to compete of it. Whenever managers get fired or maybe 321 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:36.640 head coaches in football or basketball, it's because the team 322 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:39.720 stops playing for him, right, you see it. They become 323 00:17:39.799 --> 00:17:42.039 lack of days ago, they don't have attention to detail. 324 00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:45.640 They're almost they're pushing the issue of getting rid of 325 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:50.000 the leader. Never seen that here, never seen it. 326 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:54.039 You know, when I look at people that are coaches 327 00:17:54.119 --> 00:17:56.200 in this city, and then I look at Dave as 328 00:17:56.200 --> 00:17:59.799 a manager of the Dodgers, he's sort of the textbook 329 00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:03.960 in however you're going to lead a team great with 330 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:11.200 the media, always answers honestly, players are held accountable. And 331 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:14.279 just the thing I always say about him, you ask 332 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:16.720 him a question, you'll give you an answer, and he 333 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:19.039 doesn't sugarcoat it, just give you an answer. 334 00:18:19.759 --> 00:18:21.920 I don't know. There are not a lot of people 335 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:23.799 like him as a person ned. 336 00:18:24.519 --> 00:18:27.160 No, exactly right. And the players and we and we 337 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:29.400 see it, you know, we see it every day, but 338 00:18:29.480 --> 00:18:31.720 we see it sporadically in the course of a day. 339 00:18:31.799 --> 00:18:35.599 Sometimes the players see it every day. There were you know, 340 00:18:35.960 --> 00:18:41.920 their their ability to understand him and vice versa far 341 00:18:42.079 --> 00:18:44.640 exceeds any of us at the same you know, we're 342 00:18:44.680 --> 00:18:48.359 like passing through. They're sitting there every day and I think, 343 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:50.640 you know, you make great points. And that's that's what 344 00:18:50.759 --> 00:18:53.240 he's done. And you know what, I go back to 345 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:55.799 the type of player he was, and I've been around 346 00:18:55.880 --> 00:18:57.559 him a lot. I was never with a club that 347 00:18:57.559 --> 00:19:00.440 that he was with. I did TV when it's early 348 00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:04.519 managing days here. But he had to work to be 349 00:19:04.599 --> 00:19:08.960 a player. He had to understand the intricacies of compete 350 00:19:09.559 --> 00:19:13.720 walk on at UCLA, you know, not a great player, 351 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:16.599 but a really good player, and the intricacies of the 352 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:19.920 stolen base which will ride in history in the city 353 00:19:19.960 --> 00:19:24.279 of Boston. All those things. He has taken great talent 354 00:19:24.920 --> 00:19:28.440 and I think he's instilled in them the attention to 355 00:19:28.640 --> 00:19:32.759 detail that you need to be great, and he needed 356 00:19:32.759 --> 00:19:35.480 it to survive in the big leagues and he needed 357 00:19:35.480 --> 00:19:37.880 it to manage. And you know what, I may have 358 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:40.599 my facts a little bit askew, but he was in 359 00:19:40.720 --> 00:19:43.839 San Diego before he was in LA right, and they 360 00:19:43.960 --> 00:19:47.440 change managers and he wasn't the guy they changed to, right, 361 00:19:47.839 --> 00:19:51.799 So you know how many things is he had to 362 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:56.880 fight for overcome, be smarter, work harder, be more diligent. 363 00:19:57.000 --> 00:19:59.599 Then when I look at people's success in any walk 364 00:19:59.599 --> 00:20:04.319 of life, those are the characteristics that separate the mediocre 365 00:20:04.319 --> 00:20:06.200 from the good, the good from the great, the great 366 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:06.960 from iconic. 367 00:20:08.920 --> 00:20:11.039 And that that's why, that's why you're right iconic. 368 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:15.240 Well, I don't know if I'm iconic. I might be. 369 00:20:15.279 --> 00:20:20.160 Okay, Ned, you're better than Okay, are you kidding me? 370 00:20:20.240 --> 00:20:22.640 Come on, come on, brother, you're the man. 371 00:20:23.960 --> 00:20:24.880 I appreciate it. 372 00:20:25.079 --> 00:20:27.680 All right, We thank you. We're coming on today as always. 373 00:20:27.720 --> 00:20:28.680 We'll talk again. 374 00:20:28.480 --> 00:20:30.640 Soon, Okay, thank you always. 375 00:20:33.079 --> 00:20:39.240 I think he's iconic, Rodney ned Colletti. There's only one Brett. 376 00:20:39.440 --> 00:20:42.039 There's only one. There is only one, only one, baby 377 00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:44.799 you know who else? There's only one of Mick Cronin. 378 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:46.160 Uh. 379 00:20:46.279 --> 00:20:47.920 He had some thoughts the other night that we've got 380 00:20:47.920 --> 00:20:52.200 to let you hear. That's next, right on, right right on, 381 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:52.720 right on. 382 00:20:55.039 --> 00:20:59.359 What it is Pete red Rokie back back on a 383 00:20:59.440 --> 00:21:01.160 Tuesday with a special guest. 384 00:21:02.440 --> 00:21:06.000 Yeah, so we're gonna have to postpone our Mic Cronin sound, 385 00:21:06.079 --> 00:21:10.039 which we'll use next segment, because a bigger, bigger name 386 00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:12.279 just walked in at this point. Uh now in the 387 00:21:12.279 --> 00:21:15.880 studio with us I guess apparently was doing something to 388 00:21:15.920 --> 00:21:19.640 make more money. It's our good friend, Eric Dickerson. Thank 389 00:21:19.680 --> 00:21:23.640 you for coming over giving it. What are you recording Ford. 390 00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:28.160 Spots about money? I did not come over you for 391 00:21:28.279 --> 00:21:29.920 the money. I came to your heart. Thank you for 392 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:31.720 I came up with. I got the goodness in my heart. 393 00:21:31.759 --> 00:21:33.759 That's why I came over. I love my one fifty, 394 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:35.400 so I gotta say that too. Don't be a here. 395 00:21:36.319 --> 00:21:38.599 I I knew there had to be some give and 396 00:21:38.680 --> 00:21:39.960 take here. Of course it is. 397 00:21:40.160 --> 00:21:40.319 You know. 398 00:21:40.319 --> 00:21:42.000 I'm like, I'm like the man. You know how the 399 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:44.359 man is. Yeah, I know how the man is. Eric, 400 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:45.759 You the man? 401 00:21:46.319 --> 00:21:48.480