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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>We are just one day away from the NFL Draft,

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<v Speaker 2>which is uh exciting stuff. I'm surprised we haven't done

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<v Speaker 2>any draft, like any drafts yet. That's your that's your

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<v Speaker 2>task for the day, Austin. Think of something we can draft,

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<v Speaker 2>something we can draft. I got you we did, uh

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<v Speaker 2>what did we We've done it before we did.

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<v Speaker 3>The last we did was rom coms.

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<v Speaker 2>That was Valentine's Day thing, I believe. Okay, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean we don't have we've got you know, well, let's

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<v Speaker 2>do this. Try to think of a couple of things,

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<v Speaker 2>and we can do it tomorrow and Friday, because of

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<v Speaker 2>course the draft is you know, it's a three day thing,

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<v Speaker 2>of course. Yeah, so we'll have some fun with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean again, we'll talk about the actual NFL draft

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<v Speaker 2>as well. But uh yeah, I don't think that that

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<v Speaker 2>shit or Sanders is going to be a long term

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<v Speaker 2>franchise quarterback for anybody. But I you know, what do

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<v Speaker 2>I know? I just you know, I I think this

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback crop is actually pretty poor, which as much as

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<v Speaker 2>I love Tyler Schuck. I think that's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>reasons why he was able to really just emerge almost

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<v Speaker 2>out of nowhere as a guy that you know, might

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<v Speaker 2>even be taken in the first round. So but anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>the reason I bring that up is because it seems

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<v Speaker 2>as if as we get closer to the draft, the

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<v Speaker 2>one guy that's just apparently getting completely uh you know,

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<v Speaker 2>drug through the mud is is shit Or Sanders. And

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<v Speaker 2>part of me says, well, yeah, that's that's that's there's

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<v Speaker 2>always at least one guy that anonymous NFL executives start

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<v Speaker 2>to just completely you know, clown and act like they're terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>But I feel like with him, it's kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I put it this way, let me just read this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is from let me see where this this is,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not super important, but I always try to

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<v Speaker 2>credit where, you know, where this stuff comes from, just

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, that's what you're supposed to do. But

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<v Speaker 2>this is from Complex Sports, and I think they are

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<v Speaker 2>actually quoting an actual insider. But anyways, here is a

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<v Speaker 2>quote an NFL assistant coach had on shadh Or Sanders.

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<v Speaker 2>Quote the worst formal interview I've ever been in in

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<v Speaker 2>my life. He's so entitled, he takes unnecessary sacks, he

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<v Speaker 2>never plays on time, he has horrible body language, he

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<v Speaker 2>blames teammates. But the biggest thing is he's not that good.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me how you really feel, a NFL assistant coach.

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<v Speaker 2>And so again that's now being positioned by a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people as Okay, here we go, these anonymous NFL

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<v Speaker 2>coach is talking without putting their name on it, just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to talk because you know, like that's a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>harsh thing to say. So and again, every year there's

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<v Speaker 2>at least one player, mostly a quarterback. Usually it's a

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback that absolutely, you know, just gets completely body bagged anonymously,

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<v Speaker 2>and you never really know if it's a smoke screen

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<v Speaker 2>or if it's legit. And obviously sometimes people get it wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>But maybe I'm just a hater because obviously I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>a huge fan of Colorado and Deon Sanders and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not that I you know, I just think they're

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<v Speaker 2>pretty easy to dislike. Let's be honest, I'm not the

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<v Speaker 2>only one that enjoyed seeing them get humbled. But then again,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't get humbled. They could lose by fifty every game.

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<v Speaker 2>But if they're still you know, generating all this attention

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<v Speaker 2>online and playing for clicks. As Dan Lanning said, then

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<v Speaker 2>like they still remain arrogant. I don't think they've ever

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<v Speaker 2>actually been put in their place. I think they're not

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<v Speaker 2>really about you know, winning. I mean I say that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of tongue in cheek, but like you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>it's a circus, is what it is. Now. Travis Hunter

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<v Speaker 2>is really special, and I think that we'll look back

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<v Speaker 2>and realize that the only reason Deon Sanders ever had

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<v Speaker 2>any level of like success at all is because of

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<v Speaker 2>him more than anybody else. So shdoor, Sanders is clearly

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<v Speaker 2>not a bad quarterback. But like whenever I watched him,

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<v Speaker 2>I never felt like he was great. So therefore, whenever

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<v Speaker 2>I see the last part of that quote he's not

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<v Speaker 2>that good, I don't think that's like some out of

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<v Speaker 2>this world. Can you believe he said that this guy's crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>he's wrong, Like I think, you know, at what point

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<v Speaker 2>did he ever really look that good? I mean not

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<v Speaker 2>to say he's bad, but I don't think anybody would

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<v Speaker 2>have been shocked if he was graded out as like

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<v Speaker 2>a mid round, late round guy based off his performance.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, the hype train keeps rolling, and because he's

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<v Speaker 2>just always talked about and you know, I guess maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he's a little bit raw, maybe a little green to

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<v Speaker 2>where they think that they could really turn him into

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<v Speaker 2>something special. Like nothing would shock me with him. If

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<v Speaker 2>he gets taken early wouldn't shock me. If he gets

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<v Speaker 2>if he goes late, he wouldn't shock me. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>mean like late, like you know, late rounds. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>outside of just you know, his play, I mean to me,

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<v Speaker 2>he he absolutely had some some you know, some characteristics

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<v Speaker 2>that would would scream red flag to me if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>drafting a guy that you know is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the quarterback for my franchise, Because if you're taking a

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback in the NFL draft early on, the vision is

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<v Speaker 2>that he is going to be the face of your franchise.

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<v Speaker 2>He is going to be the key cog in you

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<v Speaker 2>being able to no longer find yourself drafting early because

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<v Speaker 2>you're you know, you don't want to be a terrible

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<v Speaker 2>team that has to draft early. But like the worst

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<v Speaker 2>formal interview I could see that. I mean, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>it's not unheard of, I guess, but whenever he was playing,

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<v Speaker 2>was it Nebraska and they killed him early this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Nebraska just beat them down, and I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it was it was embarrassing. And you know when just

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<v Speaker 2>taking simple questions in the press conference, this dude completely

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<v Speaker 2>threw his offensive line under the bus like he was entitled,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't take any ownership, hadn't seemingly had no leadership qualities.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, blaming it all on his offensive line. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he responded to one question about, you know, him

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<v Speaker 2>getting pressure in the game. Did you watch the offensive

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<v Speaker 2>line out there? Did you see what they did today? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Who does that? Again? He's not wrong. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>offensive line did suck, But nobody says that even as

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<v Speaker 2>a college quarterback, this guy's about to potentially be an

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<v Speaker 2>NFL quarterback. I mean, maybe it's just me being a hater,

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<v Speaker 2>but for everybody claiming, here we go another coach afraid

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<v Speaker 2>to put his name on it, just talking bad about

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<v Speaker 2>a player just to do it or to maybe throw

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<v Speaker 2>somebody off, and you know, maybe they're doing Maybe this

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<v Speaker 2>coach doesn't believe it, He doesn't believe anything he's saying.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just doing this in hopes that other teams get

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<v Speaker 2>worried about drafting him, so then he falls to them like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the kind of stuff people are saying about this

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<v Speaker 2>story that broke today, and maybe they're right, or just

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that's a coach legitimately saying what is true. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that that's I mean, let's be real. Ever,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like if you were to just peruse all

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<v Speaker 2>of the big names out there that cover the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>Draft that, like, you know, we've heard of mel Kiper McShay,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, who else, Ian Rappaport, Schefter. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of big, big names that cover the NFL that that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, have broke stories, that have resources and all

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff. If you were to just, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you were if you were to try to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just get a good sample of all of their coverage

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<v Speaker 2>about the draft. When it comes to specifically these quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 2>that are expected to be off the board earlier than later,

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<v Speaker 2>I think most of them would say, who I've talked to,

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<v Speaker 2>they all believe that right now, Tyler Shuck is a

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<v Speaker 2>lot better than should or Sanders. But nobody's saying that

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<v Speaker 2>should or Sanders is going to be taken after Tyler

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<v Speaker 2>Shuck because I guess with Sanders, it's more about the upside,

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<v Speaker 2>it's more about the fact that he's got some some

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<v Speaker 2>real ability that you could you know, he's got a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of potential, whereas Shuck, he could certainly get better,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's maybe almost as good as he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be as far as just you know, his arm. But

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like is should or Sanders's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be coachable when his dad's not there. Like, these are

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<v Speaker 2>things that I think are rare but really big concerns.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't usually ask that about players, do you. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there have been guys that that have gone to the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL that are leaving, you know, playing fur their dad.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure. I mean, I can't think of any off

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<v Speaker 2>the top of my head, but it's not unheard of.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, are you going to draft a quarterback who

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<v Speaker 2>you only saw play with his dad running the show?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Just to me, take away all the

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<v Speaker 2>off the field stuff, the entitlement, the arrogance, the lack

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<v Speaker 2>of accountability, the seemingly you know, no leadership qualities. Take

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<v Speaker 2>all that out, which again, I think all that stuff matters.

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<v Speaker 2>You just base it off of his play specifically. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not really sure that would be warranting of him being

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<v Speaker 2>like an early round pick. But yeah, what do I know?

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<v Speaker 2>There is the reason these guys, you know, they they

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<v Speaker 2>work in the NFL, and I talk on the right

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<v Speaker 2>just to be blunt, that's just the truth. But also

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<v Speaker 2>there's been times where people like me who you know

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<v Speaker 2>don't even have a platform to talk on the radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you just watch, like the arrogance is understandable for

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<v Speaker 2>those that you know, do work in the NFL or

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA, whatever it may be. But let's not act

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<v Speaker 2>like it's not something that could realistically happen to where

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<v Speaker 2>if a fan got to make the decision, they might

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<v Speaker 2>actually make a logical decision that would work out better

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<v Speaker 2>for a franchise. Whereas these NFL folks, they overthink it

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<v Speaker 2>in every way. I mean, that's just it sounds crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not as crazy as you might think. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, not overthinking it and just trusting the

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<v Speaker 2>tape that can go a long way. All right, Again,

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<v Speaker 2>it's coffee and company and we are feel about Thornton's

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<v Speaker 2>here on Sports Talk seven to ninety. Appreciate you hanging

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<v Speaker 2>out with us here on a Wednesday afternoon. We talked

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<v Speaker 2>a lot about the James scott decision to hit the portal,

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<v Speaker 2>that was a real surprise for me. I thought of

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<v Speaker 2>all the guys that were coming back to Louisville with eligibility,

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<v Speaker 2>to me, James Scott was the one that I thought

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<v Speaker 2>for sure, there's no chance he hits the portal just

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<v Speaker 2>because he's a Kelsey guy. Those two guys are a

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<v Speaker 2>perfect combo. Pat Kelsey loves coaching him, and I feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>for the most part, James Scott has loved playing for

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<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey. And I'm sure it isn't personal. This is

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<v Speaker 2>all business now, this is all transactional, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>James Scott's got a chance to make more money elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think he's somebody. I mean everybody to

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<v Speaker 2>an extent wants to worry about their role, Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>not selfish to want to play and want to have

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<v Speaker 2>a role that is important. But James Scott, to me,

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<v Speaker 2>is one of those guys that's rare. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>he cares if he ever takes a shot. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that's I don't think that's you see very often

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<v Speaker 2>in college basketball. So but with all that said, if

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to be playing significantly less minutes next year one,

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<v Speaker 2>because you wouldn't want anybody like James Scott playing thirty

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<v Speaker 2>something minutes, but you had to last year because of

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<v Speaker 2>probably knew that, regardless of what happens, whoever comes in,

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to be getting less minutes, because he probably

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<v Speaker 2>wanted less minutes, to be honest with you, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not ideal to be playing thirty plus minutes a game,

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<v Speaker 2>but they had to play him that many minutes. So

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<v Speaker 2>with that said, he could easily be persuaded by another

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<v Speaker 2>significantly more money. And also, you're gonna play more minutes

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<v Speaker 2>than you're gonna play at Louisville because they've now got

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<v Speaker 2>Khalifa healthy, case In Pryor's coming back, and Sonny Frew,

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<v Speaker 2>the big man from across the pond, you know, who

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<v Speaker 2>really knows what we're getting in him? I mean I think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think he's gonna be pretty good, but

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he's gonna be really good, and maybe he does

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the things that James Scott was doing

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<v Speaker 2>last year. I don't know. So James Scott leaving Louisville.

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<v Speaker 2>That to me is the reminder I needed that never

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<v Speaker 2>just assume anybody's back just because you think they're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be back. Now, the reports are that, and I guess

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<v Speaker 2>it's more rumor than report. But Will Wade at NC

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<v Speaker 2>State somehow got a got information to James Scott that said, look,

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<v Speaker 2>if you hit the portal, here's what we can do

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<v Speaker 2>for you. And by hitting the portal, James Scott, if

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<v Speaker 2>anything just came him some time to think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think these things happen pretty quickly. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be shocked if we know in the next couple of days.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we know now and I just haven't seen it

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<v Speaker 2>that louis is either going to try to pursue him

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<v Speaker 2>and get him back and do whatever they need to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, as far as what they can, or they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to just accept, Okay, yeah he's gone, and we

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<v Speaker 2>now need to go find a replacement for him, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, last minute we found out he's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a part of the mix. So again it's

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<v Speaker 2>all it's all transactional at this point. And the sooner

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<v Speaker 2>we all and I say we because I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm guilty too. I think I've had a pretty good

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<v Speaker 2>grasp on knowing that these guys are now going to

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<v Speaker 2>look out for themselves as they should, as anybody else would.

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<v Speaker 2>But James Scott's the one that I just never thought

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<v Speaker 2>would leave. But here we are now. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if Kentucky fans would have said that Travis Perry was

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of guy that they never thought would leave,

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<v Speaker 2>but take away the Kentucky component, and I think you

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<v Speaker 2>would have expected him to leave. In fact, take away

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<v Speaker 2>the Kentucky component. Meeting a kid from Kentucky Lyon County, Eddieville, Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 2>all time leading scorer in the history of Kentucky high

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<v Speaker 2>school basketball. I mean, that's a big component. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you take if you get rid of that, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure this guy would have ever been in Kentucky. So

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<v Speaker 2>he decided to leave. He'll have options, and he liked

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<v Speaker 2>James Scott. Didn't put out any kind of statement, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>post anything on social media. It just kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people found out about it and it got out and

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<v Speaker 2>then sure enough, as you get closer to the deadline,

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<v Speaker 2>people and I don't if you hear somebody's in the

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<v Speaker 2>portal like me, this is just something that again I

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<v Speaker 2>can't I can't escape it, and I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get the answer. But let's just say

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<v Speaker 2>Austin Montgomery, the tribal chief, is the biggest insider in

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<v Speaker 2>college basketball, and he breaks all the news. Nobody thinks

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<v Speaker 2>anything's real unless it comes from him.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you.

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<v Speaker 2>If you hear, you know, hey I heard heard Travis

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<v Speaker 2>Scott or Travis Perry and James Scott hit the portal

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<v Speaker 2>and you want to do you want to It's your

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<v Speaker 2>job to find out because that's what you do. You

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<v Speaker 2>break stories. If you ask the coaches at both schools

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<v Speaker 2>and they said no comment, you ask the players if

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<v Speaker 2>they entered the portal, no comment or they ignore you

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<v Speaker 2>left you on red? How do you know? Like can

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<v Speaker 2>you access said portal and look at the database yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>Like who has access to this? I think players do?

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<v Speaker 2>Or I'm sorry, coaches clearly do because they that's how

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<v Speaker 2>they see who's out there and who's available as they're

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<v Speaker 2>like a button you but but you know, and again

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<v Speaker 2>you probably would be able to call a coach and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>can you tell me? Cause again it's not hidden information,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just who has access to it right, and if

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<v Speaker 2>you're somebody that's not you know, in the NC DOUBLEA

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<v Speaker 2>coaching meaning like and nobody wants to tell you. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's probably players that hit the portal that nobody knew about,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, And it's probably because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not very good and they didn't. Like, there are

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<v Speaker 2>guys who hit the portal that are walk ons that

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<v Speaker 2>never played a game, never played a second. There are

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<v Speaker 2>guys at the D two level that hit the portal.

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<v Speaker 2>So like, if nobody's looking for him, nobody would know,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess unless they just put it out there and

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<v Speaker 2>they pimp themselves out and really try to sell Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>here I am, I'm in the portal. Come take a

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<v Speaker 2>look at my film. See if you want you want

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<v Speaker 2>me to come play for you. So anyways, neither of

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<v Speaker 2>these guys made a big deal about it. He just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of got out as the deadline approached that they're

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<v Speaker 2>they're leaving. So with with Travis Perry, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that I that I and I think I've mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>this before, I watched him play probably four or five

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<v Speaker 2>times in high school and I was really really impressed

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<v Speaker 2>and I still to this I still to this point

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<v Speaker 2>believe that he is somebody that will play high level

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<v Speaker 2>college basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he's going to play at a

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky type program moving forward, But like some people have said, Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 2>I could totally see him playing at Cincinnati. I could

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<v Speaker 2>see him playing it was Virginia. I mean, I could

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<v Speaker 2>see him playing in a lot of places as far

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<v Speaker 2>as you know. But but does he want to have

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<v Speaker 2>a big role or does he want to be, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just another guy or you know, seventh eighth man and

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<v Speaker 2>all the and honestly, when you hit the portal, like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what it really depends on. And like I would

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<v Speaker 2>imagine that he probably wants to have a big, big

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<v Speaker 2>role somewhere or he would have stayed to Kentucky in

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<v Speaker 2>hopes of, you know, maybe being the seventh eighth guy,

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<v Speaker 2>but he clearly didn't want to do that. So anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>when I watched him play, I always thought he was

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<v Speaker 2>really really good. And I actually watched him play against

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<v Speaker 2>Reed Shepherd, so reads a year older. But they played

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<v Speaker 2>in the summer against each other at a summer shootout

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<v Speaker 2>that I went to, and it was Lion County versus

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<v Speaker 2>North Oral, and Reid was clearly the better prospect. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean you could tell by watching Reach. I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>remember saying it for years. This isn't just some dude

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<v Speaker 2>from Kentucky who is pretty good for a kid from Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's got the bloodline of Jeff Shepherd, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to make sense that. I mean, I knew Reach

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<v Speaker 2>sheephard was different.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>He is special and that's the reason why he was

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<v Speaker 2>a top five pick in the NBA Draft. He's a

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<v Speaker 2>great athlete. I mean, he can flat out shoot it

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<v Speaker 2>as good of a passer as you'll see. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he's really good, and that stood out in that game.

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<v Speaker 2>But in that one game, Perry actually outplayed him as

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<v Speaker 2>far as just production, Like he was hitting tough shots,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I remember thinking, Okay, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>kid they've been talking about for years, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't score as many points as he did in

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<v Speaker 2>high school unless you're playing varsity basketball and scoring a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of points from like sixth grade on. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you can watch guys who have big numbers

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<v Speaker 2>that are built like guys like Travis Perry, and you

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<v Speaker 2>could tell if they're okay, really good for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>their level maybe mid major type guy, or if they're

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<v Speaker 2>guys that can play at a high level, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you never know til you actually see them in those situations.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think Travis Perry is is I've always felt

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<v Speaker 2>like he was a good enough player to play at

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<v Speaker 2>a high level of college basketball. But one thing that

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<v Speaker 2>really hurt him last year is that he didn't make shots.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is going to sound like an exaggeration, but

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it. He's one of the best high school

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<v Speaker 2>shooters I've ever seen. One of the best shooters I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever seen he is. I mean, and I think you

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<v Speaker 2>could tell when he shoots it, even when he misses it,

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<v Speaker 2>that the guy's a shooter. But he had opportunities to

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<v Speaker 2>knock down shots at Kentucky this year and they just

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<v Speaker 2>didn't fall. I don't know what that is. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it's because of some big adjustment like, Okay, well

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<v Speaker 2>he can't get a shot off now that he's playing

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<v Speaker 2>against better competition. I just think he miss shots. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if the one thing you bring to the

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<v Speaker 2>table that you know is a real big weapon and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not working, then you know you're going to see

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<v Speaker 2>the type of season that he had he just wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>very productive and you know, just didn't work out. But

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like he's somebody that also is at this

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<v Speaker 2>level he's learning. Yeah, I'm not a point guard at

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<v Speaker 2>this level. I'm a combo guard. I'm more of a

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<v Speaker 2>two guard really, and I can score it and I

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<v Speaker 2>can flat out shoot it, but getting your own shot

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<v Speaker 2>at this level when you're not a point guard is

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<v Speaker 2>more difficult. So you know, I just think he probably

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<v Speaker 2>realized the ceiling for him at a place like Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>was probably throughout his entire if he stayed there four

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<v Speaker 2>years and Kentucky was continuously going to be good building

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<v Speaker 2>rosters that you know, you feel like can compete at

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<v Speaker 2>the top of the sec his ceiling is probably man

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<v Speaker 2>even as like a senior, and there's nothing wrong with that.

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<v Speaker 2>He could probably make a lot of money embracing that

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<v Speaker 2>role and making a ton of nil money from the

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<v Speaker 2>state of Kentucky, because you know, Kentucky loves Kentuckians, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he would get I mean, look, him and

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<v Speaker 2>Noah and Trent. Noah already had a bunch of inil

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<v Speaker 2>money just because they came. They came to play for

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<v Speaker 2>the hometown Pro. You know, if the home state program,

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<v Speaker 2>So if he'd chose to do that, that would have

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<v Speaker 2>been understandable. But I think he clearly wants to have

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<v Speaker 2>a bigger role, and it makes total sense. Like nobody's

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<v Speaker 2>at fault here. It's just it's how these things play out.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, if you miss him already and you're

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<v Speaker 2>a Kentucky fan, I get it, because again, he is

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<v Speaker 2>a good player, and also you know, there's something special

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<v Speaker 2>about somebody from your own area, your own state that

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<v Speaker 2>just makes it a little bit different. And I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like had he never you know, had he been Travis Perry,

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<v Speaker 2>all time leading scorer, same exact player, but not in Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say he's at Virginia, in the state of Virginia somewhere,

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<v Speaker 2>never would have made sense for him to play at

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky at any point, especially for Calipari. And I think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he probably would have hit the portal a

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<v Speaker 2>long time ago in this process had it not been

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<v Speaker 2>for him, kind of thinking, you know, here I am,

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<v Speaker 2>this is my dream, I'm playing for Kentucky, But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if this is what makes the most sense

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<v Speaker 2>for me. So I'm sure it was a difficult decision.

417
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<v Speaker 2>But you know, nobody's at fault. And I don't think

418
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<v Speaker 2>anybody's at fault for James Scott either, And that's what's weird.

419
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<v Speaker 2>When players would leave, you'd want to blame somebody, take

420
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<v Speaker 2>it out on somebody, or maybe you want to blame

421
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<v Speaker 2>the players themselves, like you know, you weren't loyal or oh,

422
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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to you don't want to compete. I mean,

423
00:20:42.319 --> 00:20:44.839
<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe there's some truth to that, but you know,

424
00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:47.079
<v Speaker 2>or maybe they just realize, hey, I'm gonna go do

425
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<v Speaker 2>what's best for me, because that's what any human being

426
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<v Speaker 2>would do. Loyalty, it's important, it matters. I value it

427
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<v Speaker 2>as a human being. But loyalty means nothing, and I

428
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<v Speaker 2>mean I shouldn't say it means nothing, but it's it. It.

429
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<v Speaker 2>You can't expect anybody to stick around and not look

430
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<v Speaker 2>out for themselves based off, Hey, I got to be

431
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<v Speaker 2>loyal to this school that gave me an opportunity, Like

432
00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:10.640
<v Speaker 2>that's just that's foolish, to be honest with you, And

433
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<v Speaker 2>you're foolish if you don't stick around for the next

434
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<v Speaker 2>you know, hour and a half, because we still got

435
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<v Speaker 2>the second the second half of the show, so keep

436
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<v Speaker 2>it locked right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's on

438
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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day.

439
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<v Speaker 2>That's right, it's coffee and Company fueld byth Thornton's here

440
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<v Speaker 2>on Sports Talk seven ninety. Appreciate you hanging out with

441
00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:34.759
<v Speaker 2>us here on a Wednesday afternoon. So I talked about

442
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<v Speaker 2>this a little bit yesterday. Well at least I brought

443
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<v Speaker 2>it up. I actually didn't talk a lot about it

444
00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:39.799
<v Speaker 2>at all, other than just you know, it being one

445
00:21:39.799 --> 00:21:41.519
<v Speaker 2>of the things I mentioned I wanted to get, wanted

446
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<v Speaker 2>to discuss, and you know, I didn't do it. But

447
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<v Speaker 2>Netflix they have given us a I guess a preview

448
00:21:50.119 --> 00:21:54.680
<v Speaker 2>of one of their newest episodes of the Untold I

449
00:21:54.720 --> 00:21:57.039
<v Speaker 2>guess this. They don't call them seasons, but there's been

450
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<v Speaker 2>I guess four volumes of their Told documentary series and

451
00:22:03.559 --> 00:22:08.559
<v Speaker 2>it's it's basically thirty for thirty, but Netflix's own version

452
00:22:08.599 --> 00:22:11.720
<v Speaker 2>of it and the one that they're going to I mean,

453
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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there's gonna be many episodes in this new

454
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<v Speaker 2>volume that's coming out this summer, but the one that

455
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<v Speaker 2>they've maybe we maybe it's already out there. As far

456
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<v Speaker 2>as what they're gonna cover. But one of the latest

457
00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:26.319
<v Speaker 2>is that they're going to share the story of when

458
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<v Speaker 2>and I forgot all about this, Austin. You may not

459
00:22:28.319 --> 00:22:30.920
<v Speaker 2>even know about this, Maybe you do, Gilbert Arenas and

460
00:22:31.000 --> 00:22:32.759
<v Speaker 2>one of his teammates when he was with the Wizards,

461
00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:36.000
<v Speaker 2>like they brought guns in the locker room, Gerald critten

462
00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:39.839
<v Speaker 2>in yes, yes, or Javars Critten yes yes. So you know,

463
00:22:39.960 --> 00:22:42.880
<v Speaker 2>that's one of those things that like I remember it,

464
00:22:43.160 --> 00:22:44.720
<v Speaker 2>I kind of forgot about it. It's not something I

465
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<v Speaker 2>never really think about. But the way in which they

466
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<v Speaker 2>tell stories here with this, with with this production, like

467
00:22:49.880 --> 00:22:52.000
<v Speaker 2>I have a feeling one they vetted it and they

468
00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:53.759
<v Speaker 2>know that there's some good stuff to share. It's gonna

469
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<v Speaker 2>make it really interesting. So what I learned about thirty

470
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<v Speaker 2>for thirty is that there are stories that I would

471
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<v Speaker 2>never or find on the surface that interesting or even

472
00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:07.279
<v Speaker 2>know anything about. And yet the way that they did that,

473
00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:09.599
<v Speaker 2>the way that they storytell with the ESPNS thirty for thirty,

474
00:23:09.640 --> 00:23:12.200
<v Speaker 2>there's really not any subject matter that I wouldn't enjoy

475
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<v Speaker 2>because of how they do it. And I kind of

476
00:23:14.599 --> 00:23:16.839
<v Speaker 2>feel like, now that's the same thing we get here.

477
00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:19.880
<v Speaker 2>I will say that it kind of feels like anybody

478
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<v Speaker 2>that does the Netflix series Untold, they get a little

479
00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:26.720
<v Speaker 2>bit more of a pr boost than the ESPN thirty

480
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<v Speaker 2>for thirty. Like I kind of feel like, if you

481
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<v Speaker 2>agree to do it, then they're gonna tell you ahead

482
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<v Speaker 2>of time, we're not going to, like, you know, make

483
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<v Speaker 2>you look bad. I think with the SPNs thirty for

484
00:23:35.279 --> 00:23:36.680
<v Speaker 2>thirty there was more of a look, it doesn't matter,

485
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<v Speaker 2>We're not gonna make you look one way or the other.

486
00:23:38.519 --> 00:23:40.079
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna tell a story, and the story is what

487
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<v Speaker 2>it is. People can take it for what it's worth.

488
00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:44.319
<v Speaker 2>Like the Johnny Manzel one, a lot of people said that,

489
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<v Speaker 2>you know, they really didn't hold him accountable for like

490
00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:49.079
<v Speaker 2>ruining his own life, and it was more so just

491
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<v Speaker 2>like you know, kind of making excuses for why he

492
00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:55.839
<v Speaker 2>ended up the way he was now. The one on

493
00:23:57.160 --> 00:24:00.640
<v Speaker 2>the Florida Gators and Urban Meyer, I mean, I found

494
00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:03.000
<v Speaker 2>that very well done and interesting, but I understood why

495
00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:05.319
<v Speaker 2>everybody complained, like, what do you mean you did it?

496
00:24:05.400 --> 00:24:09.640
<v Speaker 2>You did a four episode feature on Florida in that era,

497
00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:13.759
<v Speaker 2>and like you didn't even talk about Aaron Hernandez murdering

498
00:24:13.799 --> 00:24:16.240
<v Speaker 2>people when he got to the NFL like it was.

499
00:24:16.400 --> 00:24:16.680
<v Speaker 3>It was.

500
00:24:16.759 --> 00:24:19.759
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't much more so of a puff piece. It

501
00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:22.519
<v Speaker 2>was just you know, there's there's endless amounts of like

502
00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:26.160
<v Speaker 2>drama and layers to like everything that went on during

503
00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:29.359
<v Speaker 2>that era of Florida Gator football. And instead of instead

504
00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:31.519
<v Speaker 2>of focusing on you know, all the things that made headlines,

505
00:24:31.559 --> 00:24:34.640
<v Speaker 2>all the scandal, all the crime, all the arrests, they

506
00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:37.640
<v Speaker 2>just focused on how dominant Florida was and how Tim

507
00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Tebow was, you know, the savior. So I understood the

508
00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:44.920
<v Speaker 2>complaints about that, but I still felt like it was

509
00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:48.759
<v Speaker 2>worth watching. So again, both are great, but obviously Netflix,

510
00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:51.400
<v Speaker 2>I feel like the Untold series is focusing more so

511
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<v Speaker 2>on for me. I guess just you know, sports stories

512
00:24:55.119 --> 00:24:57.200
<v Speaker 2>that I'm that I'm familiar with. Like the first one

513
00:24:57.240 --> 00:24:59.680
<v Speaker 2>ever was the Malice at the Palace, the brawl between

514
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:03.480
<v Speaker 2>the Pacers and the Pistons, and that was that was

515
00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:08.119
<v Speaker 2>that was great. They also did uh and again there's

516
00:25:08.160 --> 00:25:09.880
<v Speaker 2>something that I haven't seen, but just ones that that

517
00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:12.240
<v Speaker 2>that you know, I recommend you watch if you haven't yet.

518
00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:13.960
<v Speaker 2>And look, I know it. Sometimes when it comes to

519
00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:16.160
<v Speaker 2>documentary series, you think to yourself, like why would I

520
00:25:16.200 --> 00:25:18.480
<v Speaker 2>watch The Malice at the Palace, Like, I know what happened. Uh,

521
00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:20.599
<v Speaker 2>they punched each other and some people got arrested and

522
00:25:20.640 --> 00:25:23.480
<v Speaker 2>there was a big suspension. No, there's way more to it,

523
00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:26.319
<v Speaker 2>way more to it than you would ever realize, including many,

524
00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:28.079
<v Speaker 2>many many years later, how they they were able to

525
00:25:28.119 --> 00:25:30.720
<v Speaker 2>find out who the guy was that actually threw the

526
00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:33.759
<v Speaker 2>first beer that started the whole thing, So that one

527
00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:34.519
<v Speaker 2>was really well done.

528
00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:35.400
<v Speaker 3>That was good.

529
00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:38.160
<v Speaker 2>And then also this is what I didn't know anything about,

530
00:25:38.200 --> 00:25:40.720
<v Speaker 2>but it was really really interesting. This one was called

531
00:25:40.759 --> 00:25:43.599
<v Speaker 2>Crimes and Penalties. It's the Danbury Thrashers. It's a now

532
00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:48.440
<v Speaker 2>defunct United Hockey Hockey League team, and just the story

533
00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:50.640
<v Speaker 2>as far as how that league came together and who

534
00:25:50.680 --> 00:25:56.279
<v Speaker 2>was running it was really interesting. And then man, I

535
00:25:56.279 --> 00:26:02.079
<v Speaker 2>thought the best one ever was the girlfriend who didn't exist,

536
00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:06.319
<v Speaker 2>man Titeo's fake girl, Like that was Oh okay, that was.

537
00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:09.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is the untold one on Netflix.

538
00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:13.279
<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, So because that one, that's that's still to

539
00:26:13.359 --> 00:26:17.279
<v Speaker 2>this day one of the craziest stories that ever happened. Yeah,

540
00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:20.960
<v Speaker 2>in sports, and I think because it took place in

541
00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:24.160
<v Speaker 2>like twenty eleven, twenty twelve, it was like right before

542
00:26:24.200 --> 00:26:27.559
<v Speaker 2>the internet had the latest the latest boom that made

543
00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:29.880
<v Speaker 2>it to where everything we do is online like every

544
00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:33.000
<v Speaker 2>So it was clearly a big Internet thing. But like,

545
00:26:34.759 --> 00:26:37.440
<v Speaker 2>you really can't hide a lot of stuff now because

546
00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:40.200
<v Speaker 2>of the Internet, because of social media, because of everybody

547
00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:43.119
<v Speaker 2>having their phone out to where back then there just

548
00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:45.640
<v Speaker 2>wasn't I mean, this day and age a bunch of

549
00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:48.200
<v Speaker 2>randos on the Internet. If that kind of thing happened now,

550
00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:50.839
<v Speaker 2>everybody'd be able to determine this person's not real. But

551
00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:54.920
<v Speaker 2>there was just enough unknown still in the world, right

552
00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:59.480
<v Speaker 2>we didn't have access to everybody's every move and information

553
00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:02.920
<v Speaker 2>to where people just accept that, Okay, that's probably a

554
00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:05.039
<v Speaker 2>true story. What a great story with this guy who's

555
00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:08.880
<v Speaker 2>an All American football player who loves his girlfriend and man,

556
00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:11.720
<v Speaker 2>it's sad she got cancer and she died. Like these

557
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:14.279
<v Speaker 2>are things that I think even back then, if people

558
00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:16.440
<v Speaker 2>really pay close enough attention, they could have figured out

559
00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:19.640
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't real. But that one was good because he

560
00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:21.759
<v Speaker 2>remember watching that one. He was a part of it,

561
00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:24.640
<v Speaker 2>and he's and he's the victim. So therefore, like you know,

562
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:26.400
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't like that. There's really no way to make

563
00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:28.599
<v Speaker 2>him look bad. I mean, I guess if anything, he

564
00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:30.680
<v Speaker 2>looks foolish for like believing it, But at the end,

565
00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:34.519
<v Speaker 2>it's just because he's like a very naive, good going guy.

566
00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:38.599
<v Speaker 2>And also his culture, his faith is is also a

567
00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:40.799
<v Speaker 2>component that made him a little bit more I think

568
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:44.039
<v Speaker 2>just some would say having blinders on him more so

569
00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:46.319
<v Speaker 2>just wanting to see that, just not ever even having

570
00:27:46.359 --> 00:27:49.640
<v Speaker 2>the thought that somebody wouldn't be genuine about those kind

571
00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:52.000
<v Speaker 2>of things. I mean, they really are very samo and

572
00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:53.799
<v Speaker 2>like everything that's chills him.

573
00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:54.119
<v Speaker 3>Dude.

574
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<v Speaker 4>You know, so I remember watching that you watch that one?

575
00:27:56.359 --> 00:27:58.079
<v Speaker 4>That one was pretty I think that was only one

576
00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:00.200
<v Speaker 4>that I did watch. I was excited to watch to

577
00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:03.160
<v Speaker 4>Florida one, but I'm pretty sure when we talked about it,

578
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:05.359
<v Speaker 4>you said that just goes into how dominant the Florida

579
00:28:05.400 --> 00:28:08.119
<v Speaker 4>thing is and really not into the meat and potatoes

580
00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:11.599
<v Speaker 4>or like what everybody else wanted. I haven't seen anything

581
00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:15.559
<v Speaker 4>else on that one. I watched clips. I basically watched

582
00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:18.880
<v Speaker 4>almost a whole Johnny manziel one just through TikTok videos,

583
00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:22.880
<v Speaker 4>not through actual Netflix. But I was about to ask

584
00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:25.160
<v Speaker 4>you before we started talking about this one, do you

585
00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:28.519
<v Speaker 4>have any favorite thirty for thirties? Because I love the

586
00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:30.119
<v Speaker 4>thirty for thirty growing up.

587
00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:32.759
<v Speaker 2>There's so many of them that are great, but the

588
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:35.480
<v Speaker 2>one that in this one, I don't even know where

589
00:28:35.519 --> 00:28:37.799
<v Speaker 2>it would rank as far as the best, but it was.

590
00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:39.599
<v Speaker 2>It was all new to me because a lot of

591
00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:42.119
<v Speaker 2>these things when you watch them, you hear them share

592
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:45.039
<v Speaker 2>and tell the story with different information. You get different

593
00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:47.920
<v Speaker 2>perspectives from people that they interview, but overall, like like,

594
00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:50.920
<v Speaker 2>we know what happened. I didn't even know this was

595
00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:52.599
<v Speaker 2>a thing. But there was an NHL team I think

596
00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:56.279
<v Speaker 2>the Long Island Islanders. Is that their name? Yes, I

597
00:28:56.319 --> 00:28:59.359
<v Speaker 2>should know that. But anyways, somebody fake bought the team.

598
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Do you know anything about this one? I can't say

599
00:29:01.960 --> 00:29:04.119
<v Speaker 2>I remember that. So this was this was called big

600
00:29:04.119 --> 00:29:08.559
<v Speaker 2>Shot and this guy came in and saved the franch

601
00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:11.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, he bought them and if not, nobody else

602
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:12.559
<v Speaker 2>was going to buy them and they were going to fold.

603
00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:15.440
<v Speaker 2>And it was a super super important, you know thing

604
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:18.240
<v Speaker 2>to people in Long Island, the New York Islanders anyone

605
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:19.720
<v Speaker 2>I knew that didn't sound right, but it's the New

606
00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:23.200
<v Speaker 2>York Islanders, not the Long Island Islanders. He came in

607
00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:25.319
<v Speaker 2>and bought him and it was just this oh, my God,

608
00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:28.319
<v Speaker 2>thank you for this savior. He's he's you know, he's

609
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:31.160
<v Speaker 2>going to keep this franchise from folding. He's this Dallas

610
00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:36.240
<v Speaker 2>businessman named John Spano. Who man, he's he's so wealthy

611
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:39.039
<v Speaker 2>and knowledgeable about hockey. He paid one hundred and sixty

612
00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:41.160
<v Speaker 2>five million dollars. But because there was such a level

613
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:43.839
<v Speaker 2>of desperation to just get the deal done, nobody vetted him.

614
00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:45.640
<v Speaker 2>He was completely full of crap, didn't have any money.

615
00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:48.000
<v Speaker 2>He fake bought them. He was running the franchise that

616
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:50.599
<v Speaker 2>never bought them. So then it all, it all came

617
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:53.519
<v Speaker 2>to light. But like, like, well, because this so this happened,

618
00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:55.640
<v Speaker 2>by the way, this this thirty thirty came out in

619
00:29:55.640 --> 00:30:00.400
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and nine, I'm sorry, twenty thirteen, but when

620
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:02.279
<v Speaker 2>it actually took it was nineteen ninety six. So you

621
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:04.640
<v Speaker 2>were you born then? So I was born in ninety three.

622
00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:06.279
<v Speaker 2>So you get so that that that that gives you

623
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<v Speaker 2>an example. I didn't even know that this ever had

624
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<v Speaker 2>even happened, And sure enough I'm watching thirty for thirty

625
00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:12.200
<v Speaker 2>and I you know, so it's all new to me

626
00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:14.200
<v Speaker 2>and it's all fascinating, and that's what made it really

627
00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:16.400
<v Speaker 2>stand out and they're all great. I don't know if

628
00:30:16.400 --> 00:30:18.000
<v Speaker 2>I've ever watched the thirty for thirty that I regretted

629
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:19.240
<v Speaker 2>that I didn't think it was good. Some are more

630
00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:21.440
<v Speaker 2>interesting to me than others, But no, did you have

631
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<v Speaker 2>a favorite that really like? The one about Randy Moss

632
00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:27.000
<v Speaker 2>was also really, really, really popular, and I liked it

633
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:27.440
<v Speaker 2>a lot too.

634
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I liked I always remember liking the drama that

635
00:30:31.400 --> 00:30:34.960
<v Speaker 4>surrounded the Steve Bartman guy, the family caught the Yeah

636
00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:36.480
<v Speaker 4>they caught that, that they caught that.

637
00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:39.960
<v Speaker 2>That's probably one of the more famous thirty for thirties, actually, Mary.

638
00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:41.920
<v Speaker 4>One I one of the first ones was a Ricky

639
00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:44.720
<v Speaker 4>Williams one. It was Run, Ricky Run. I love that one.

640
00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:46.960
<v Speaker 4>And the also one that I really loved that made

641
00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:49.440
<v Speaker 4>me appreciate baseball a little more was the I'll have

642
00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:51.440
<v Speaker 4>to look it up, see Fernando Nation.

643
00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:53.400
<v Speaker 3>It was the one about Fernando.

644
00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:56.119
<v Speaker 4>Valenzuela and his influence on like the Dodgers back that

645
00:30:56.119 --> 00:30:58.640
<v Speaker 4>that was awesome because it made me realize, dude, that

646
00:30:58.640 --> 00:30:59.480
<v Speaker 4>that guy was good.

647
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<v Speaker 2>I've learned a lot about sports as far as just

648
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:06.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, the history of things with thirty for thirty

649
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:09.119
<v Speaker 2>because there's so much that like we didn't experience because

650
00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:11.680
<v Speaker 2>we weren't alive, or we were too young and whenever.

651
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:14.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, really, the best way to, I think, educate

652
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:17.720
<v Speaker 2>yourself on big stories that happened long before you were around. Yeah,

653
00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:20.079
<v Speaker 2>you can do research, but there's no better way to,

654
00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:21.960
<v Speaker 2>I think, get the full scope of it than watching

655
00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:24.200
<v Speaker 2>it featured in thirty for thirty. I mean that's I'm

656
00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:26.559
<v Speaker 2>surprised you could educate yourself on the history of sports

657
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:29.759
<v Speaker 2>in our country by watching like every thirty for thirty.

658
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:30.519
<v Speaker 2>I really do believe that.

659
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, I agree that it just puts a lot

660
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:35.319
<v Speaker 4>of more fun context and story behind it. But I'm

661
00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:39.240
<v Speaker 4>shocked you didn't say the Reggie Miller one were against

662
00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:44.319
<v Speaker 4>the against the Knicks. Yeah, I mean I like that one.

663
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:47.039
<v Speaker 3>I just was bringing back some bad memories.

664
00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:49.599
<v Speaker 2>No, not bad memories, it's good memories. I mean I

665
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:51.680
<v Speaker 2>was really young when that happened. But like, I mean,

666
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:54.880
<v Speaker 2>that was my first memory of Reggie Miller. Is other

667
00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:56.599
<v Speaker 2>than just knowing he plays from a Pacers and I

668
00:31:56.680 --> 00:31:59.200
<v Speaker 2>like him, Like I remember the Spike League connection, so

669
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:02.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, heck, there was a what was it, non

670
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:03.240
<v Speaker 2>points in eight seconds?

671
00:32:03.359 --> 00:32:04.119
<v Speaker 3>Is what he is?

672
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:07.119
<v Speaker 2>What ended up happening. Like the first blog that I

673
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:10.240
<v Speaker 2>read covering the Pacers was called non Points eight seconds

674
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:11.759
<v Speaker 2>dot com. Like, I just think that's so cool that

675
00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:14.640
<v Speaker 2>that's what they like, that it's such a big part

676
00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:17.920
<v Speaker 2>of the whole thing. So I liked that one a lot,

677
00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:20.960
<v Speaker 2>and I just to me it featured Spike Lee too much,

678
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:25.079
<v Speaker 2>like he's part of it. But like you know, Reggie Miller,

679
00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:28.960
<v Speaker 2>like Reggie Miller is is a legendary all time NBA player.

680
00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:33.079
<v Speaker 2>The Spike Lee component, like is just a small, tiny

681
00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:35.319
<v Speaker 2>part of his story, if you even would say it's

682
00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:37.079
<v Speaker 2>a part of his story, if that makes sense. So again,

683
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:40.480
<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed it. It just but what really really hit

684
00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:43.440
<v Speaker 2>me in the fields as a Pacers fan, and you know,

685
00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:46.319
<v Speaker 2>idolizing that era of the Pacers and Reggie growing up

686
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:48.759
<v Speaker 2>was the last Dance docu series, because.

687
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:51.440
<v Speaker 3>I think that's a that's a thirty for thirty, isn't it?

688
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Technically No, I think it's its own thing. Oh okay,

689
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:58.839
<v Speaker 2>But to hear Jordan and Reggie talk about those battles,

690
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:05.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and Jordan respected Reggie Miller, I think more

691
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:07.720
<v Speaker 2>than he respected a lot of players, even players that

692
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:10.839
<v Speaker 2>were clearly better than Reggie because Reggie Miller wasn't scared

693
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:13.480
<v Speaker 2>of him, and he and I think Jordan and Bray

694
00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:15.839
<v Speaker 2>like Jordan like really loved the battles that he had

695
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:18.279
<v Speaker 2>with Reggie. Reggie was nowhere near the player Michael Jordan was, clearly,

696
00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:21.519
<v Speaker 2>but like to hear them talk about those those Eastern

697
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Conference finals back in the nineties, I mean that was

698
00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:27.640
<v Speaker 2>my childhood and I remember recreating shots that Reggie would

699
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:29.759
<v Speaker 2>hit in those games in my driveway after the game,

700
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:32.599
<v Speaker 2>and just to hear Reggie talk about, like how cause again,

701
00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:36.240
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people on that series just stroke Jordan.

702
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:37.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's really what it was. And that's fine

703
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:41.400
<v Speaker 2>because Jordan's Jordan. But you could tell like Reggie hated him,

704
00:33:41.559 --> 00:33:43.720
<v Speaker 2>But it was because of the competitiveness that Reggie had.

705
00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Reggie is nowhere near the player that Michael was, or

706
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:49.599
<v Speaker 2>Kobe or any of the all time greats. But one

707
00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:52.440
<v Speaker 2>thing he had that I would put up there with

708
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:54.599
<v Speaker 2>those guys, not to say he's better. He had a

709
00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:57.400
<v Speaker 2>level of competitiveness that you could sense at every moment,

710
00:33:57.920 --> 00:33:59.640
<v Speaker 2>and that's what made him great. Like he wasn't a

711
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:01.640
<v Speaker 2>great ass athlete. He was a good shooter obviously, but

712
00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:04.400
<v Speaker 2>he was just a fierce competitor, and that stood out

713
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:06.480
<v Speaker 2>when you watched him play, and to hear the best

714
00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:09.119
<v Speaker 2>of all time, Michael Jordan, the best competitor, the best

715
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:12.639
<v Speaker 2>player ever. To hear him kind of just glaze Reggie

716
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:15.280
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to that aspect, Like it melted me,

717
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:18.639
<v Speaker 2>like I was, I mean, I mean embarrassing to say,

718
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:20.079
<v Speaker 2>like I had tears of minds here on it. Whenever

719
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:22.119
<v Speaker 2>we watched the that was one of one of the

720
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:26.079
<v Speaker 2>bright spots of the pandemic. We were all away and

721
00:34:26.119 --> 00:34:29.239
<v Speaker 2>in quarantine, but they gave us each week, they gave

722
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:31.199
<v Speaker 2>us a new episode and it was like going back

723
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:34.440
<v Speaker 2>in time and reliving my childhood. That was a great documentary.

724
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:36.679
<v Speaker 2>It was probably one of the best ever. Really well done.

725
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:39.320
<v Speaker 2>All right, quick break, We'll come back on the other side.

726
00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Rep of the four o'clock hour right here on Sports

727
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Talk seven.

728
00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:45.239
<v Speaker 1>Ninety Now back to coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's

729
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:47.480
<v Speaker 1>On Sports Talk seven nine day.

730
00:34:48.199 --> 00:34:51.360
<v Speaker 2>We were talking about the thirty for thirty series from

731
00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:54.320
<v Speaker 2>ESPN and of course Netflix's I mean, I call up

732
00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:56.840
<v Speaker 2>their own version of it. I'm sure they they you know,

733
00:34:56.880 --> 00:35:00.239
<v Speaker 2>they don't view it that way, but sports documentaries, but

734
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:02.559
<v Speaker 2>I'd forgot about one that came out last year that

735
00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:05.519
<v Speaker 2>Netflix put out with the Untold series, which was about

736
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:08.239
<v Speaker 2>Steve McNair, which I mean, I knew the story of

737
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:11.000
<v Speaker 2>how he was murdered, and I mean I think everybody

738
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:12.800
<v Speaker 2>knows that, but there were a lot of uh it's

739
00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:15.119
<v Speaker 2>actually kind of sad how that all played out. But

740
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:16.559
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of details as far as who the

741
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:19.800
<v Speaker 2>girl was and how like everything happened that I wasn't

742
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:23.159
<v Speaker 2>aware of. So yeah, that was good, and thank you

743
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:25.119
<v Speaker 2>for whoever was in the text on that brought that

744
00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:26.840
<v Speaker 2>one up. All right, we were wrapping up the five

745
00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:28.920
<v Speaker 2>o'clock hour or I'm sorry, four o'clock hour. We get

746
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:32.079
<v Speaker 2>the five clock hour coming up here soon. But we'll

747
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:34.559
<v Speaker 2>get back into the whole transfer portal stuff. Just because

748
00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:37.320
<v Speaker 2>with Louisville, I mean, I think now you have you

749
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:40.280
<v Speaker 2>clearly have a role. You mean you I think had

750
00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:44.079
<v Speaker 2>Yesterday ended without James Scott and the portal, you still

751
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:46.199
<v Speaker 2>would have had a couple of scholarships available. But I

752
00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:48.679
<v Speaker 2>don't think that you really feel as if, okay, we

753
00:35:48.760 --> 00:35:50.960
<v Speaker 2>got to go get this type this type of piece

754
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:54.280
<v Speaker 2>to really be good. I think you feel pretty set,

755
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:56.000
<v Speaker 2>and you hope that the last two spots are just

756
00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:58.239
<v Speaker 2>guys that you know are willing to come in and

757
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:00.440
<v Speaker 2>accept whatever role is is they or even though it

758
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:02.320
<v Speaker 2>probably won't be a big role. Well now, with James

759
00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:05.119
<v Speaker 2>Scott gone, I mean, I still think as is you

760
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:07.760
<v Speaker 2>could still be a pretty good team. But you, now,

761
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:10.760
<v Speaker 2>I think, are more eagerly looking to kind of fill

762
00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:13.840
<v Speaker 2>at least try to fill the void that you have

763
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:15.480
<v Speaker 2>with him gone. And I think for the most part,

764
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:17.599
<v Speaker 2>production wise, you can fill that just with the guys

765
00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:21.599
<v Speaker 2>you have already in the mix, a healthy Ali Khalifa

766
00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:23.920
<v Speaker 2>and a healthy case in prior and of course Sonny

767
00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:28.280
<v Speaker 2>Frew coming over as a freshman. But I still think,

768
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:31.880
<v Speaker 2>you know those three with Scott, your front court clearly

769
00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:33.880
<v Speaker 2>was in better shape. So I have no clue as

770
00:36:33.880 --> 00:36:35.000
<v Speaker 2>far as who they're going to go after, but we

771
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:37.599
<v Speaker 2>can certainly certainly get into that real quick though. This

772
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:42.880
<v Speaker 2>story is wild. So I don't watch any professional baseball,

773
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.800
<v Speaker 2>have not and probably never will, but it seems like

774
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:48.679
<v Speaker 2>those that really like to watch baseball one I would

775
00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:50.480
<v Speaker 2>recommend you find out. I mean, I'm here to tell

776
00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:51.920
<v Speaker 2>you there's better things to do, but hey, do whatever

777
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:53.280
<v Speaker 2>you want with your time. I'm sure I spend time

778
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:55.440
<v Speaker 2>doing things you guys would never want to do. But

779
00:36:55.480 --> 00:36:58.000
<v Speaker 2>it seems difficult to find baseball, Like you know, games

780
00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:01.400
<v Speaker 2>are blocked out? Is it on you know, Bally Sports South?

781
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:03.920
<v Speaker 2>Like it just seems like, you know, it's not as

782
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:06.039
<v Speaker 2>easy to watch your favorite baseball team as it is

783
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:09.760
<v Speaker 2>your favorite NFL team or your favorite NBA team. But

784
00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:13.880
<v Speaker 2>this is I mean, this is a nightmare. So I

785
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:18.039
<v Speaker 2>don't even know this was a thing MASN. Plus it's

786
00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:21.639
<v Speaker 2>the mid Atlantic Sports Network. Well apparently it is the

787
00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:24.880
<v Speaker 2>direct to consumer option for people who want to watch

788
00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:29.480
<v Speaker 2>the Baltimore Orioles and the Washington Nationals. So you can

789
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:34.320
<v Speaker 2>pay eighty nine to ninety nine a year or nineteen

790
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:37.119
<v Speaker 2>ninety nine a month in order to have access to

791
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:41.119
<v Speaker 2>watch those games. Not crazy, I mean, I'd say if

792
00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:43.719
<v Speaker 2>it's my team, I'd easily pay that. I wouldn't want to.

793
00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:46.480
<v Speaker 2>But I mean if you had to pay a monthly

794
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:49.679
<v Speaker 2>fee to watch any Louisville Cardinal game and it was

795
00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:52.119
<v Speaker 2>one hundred bucks a month, a lot of us would

796
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:54.840
<v Speaker 2>you do would pay it or we'd find a way

797
00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:56.800
<v Speaker 2>to watch it somehow, because that's how much we care,

798
00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:00.320
<v Speaker 2>so you know, I don't think that's a crazy price. Whoever,

799
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:04.639
<v Speaker 2>there was a glitch, a mistake, a technical error on

800
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:07.519
<v Speaker 2>the end of the mid Atlantic Sports Network that instead

801
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:12.400
<v Speaker 2>of charging somebody eighty nine to ninety nine for the

802
00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:15.480
<v Speaker 2>annual price to get it for a year, there were

803
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:18.039
<v Speaker 2>a handful of people. In fact, it looks like nearly

804
00:38:18.079 --> 00:38:22.280
<v Speaker 2>one hundred customers were charged eight thousand, nine hundred and

805
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:25.800
<v Speaker 2>ninety nine dollars rather than eighty nine dollars and ninety

806
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:27.920
<v Speaker 2>nine cents. So I don't know how they're going to

807
00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:30.400
<v Speaker 2>work through getting people their money back. Clearly they're gonna

808
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:34.159
<v Speaker 2>get refunded, but someone messed up. I mean, can you do?

809
00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:37.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean I feel like if you were to, like

810
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:39.639
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people don't have nine thousand dollars in

811
00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:42.760
<v Speaker 2>their checking account to charge. I mean, can you again,

812
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:45.760
<v Speaker 2>I better have that overdraft protection. Yeah, But like again,

813
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:48.159
<v Speaker 2>even if you have overdraft protection, I feel like if

814
00:38:48.199 --> 00:38:50.440
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna put you over maybe even like a couple

815
00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:52.960
<v Speaker 2>hundred bucks, like it would still it would it would

816
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:55.719
<v Speaker 2>give you the overdraft protection and they would cover it,

817
00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:57.719
<v Speaker 2>and then you of course would have to pay some

818
00:38:57.760 --> 00:38:59.480
<v Speaker 2>fees and whatnot. I don't even know how that works,

819
00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:02.280
<v Speaker 2>not to say, you know, we don't have overdraft, you know.

820
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:04.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean again, I'm a child when it comes to money.

821
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:07.039
<v Speaker 2>My wife, you know, she handles all that, so I

822
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:09.079
<v Speaker 2>don't even check our account, so I don't even maybe

823
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:11.079
<v Speaker 2>she could have a drug addiction. I would and I

824
00:39:11.079 --> 00:39:13.079
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't know about it. But what I'm getting at is,

825
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:16.039
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, even if you have like protection and

826
00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:18.519
<v Speaker 2>you can have like rollover from savings if it comes

827
00:39:18.519 --> 00:39:21.760
<v Speaker 2>if checking gets too low, I would imagine if it's

828
00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:24.760
<v Speaker 2>a nine thousand dollars charge, like the bank wouldn't let

829
00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:26.880
<v Speaker 2>like you. They wouldn't even be able to charge you that, right,

830
00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:28.119
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. Like, I feel like even

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<v Speaker 2>if you have an insane amount of money and a

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<v Speaker 2>nine thousand dollars standard charge from a company that's like

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<v Speaker 2>a TV network, I feel like your bank would flag

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<v Speaker 2>that and say, yeah, that's not like right. But apparently

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<v Speaker 2>some people, uh you know, they got charged and now

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<v Speaker 2>they're fighting for their money and they are going to

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<v Speaker 2>pay them back. It's just I would imagine that's it

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<v Speaker 2>is wild. How you know, when it comes to refunding,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's what good businesses do, but man, they

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<v Speaker 2>have no problem immediately taking your money and accepting it.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's always some kind of a delay. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to take a certain amount of time to process. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well you say so, Alright, five o'clock hour next right

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<v Speaker 2>here on Sports Talk seven ninety