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Speaker 3: Welcome to Eye on the Ball here on Fox Sports
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Speaker 3: Big weekend over the weekend right with you. I don't
Speaker 3: want we're gonna screw with your breaking news man, does
Speaker 3: it really?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, softball, tennis, Yeah, we're gonna talk tennis, hell with him,
Speaker 3: Hell with Chris.
Speaker 2: The Warriors. They played a night yep. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And uh I just saw breaking news now with basketball
Speaker 3: men's basketball.
Speaker 2: I was walking in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's not that big of the ah wait
Speaker 3: for we well love because you don't never have anything. No, No,
Speaker 3: it is actually Kevin and Caleb Love. Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 3: It's not the measurement thing off, that's yeah. No, it's
Speaker 3: just that we get talking about it now just because
Speaker 3: and then we'll talk about it in breaking news again.
Speaker 3: Carter's not going to be participating in and he was invited. No,
Speaker 3: he's not gonna work out it gains in the combine.
Speaker 3: I guess he's buying getting good news that he doesn't
Speaker 3: need to. That's not good for Arizona. And Caleb Love
Speaker 3: did not get invited. Yeah, it's not a shock.
Speaker 2: No, we talked about that, I think throughout the season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny. It's funny though I saw Bruce's synopsis.
Speaker 3: I guess yesterday other Saturday where Caleb did great at
Speaker 3: the measurables and the athletic.
Speaker 2: That's anything shock you there.
Speaker 3: No, because he's fantastically gifted athletically. It's not about that
Speaker 3: for him. And at the next level for him.
Speaker 4: It's about the pace of play, the rhythm, the consistency,
Speaker 4: and probably other things not too but I mean, if
Speaker 4: you're if you have all the measurables in the world,
Speaker 4: that doesn't mean you're.
Speaker 2: Going to take it. No, And I've said this all along.
Speaker 3: It's funny because I've said this example a number of
Speaker 3: times having covered the long time wild Cats back in
Speaker 3: the day, and Richard Jefferson, one of my colleagues national colleagues,
Speaker 3: was surprised that Richard decided to declare after his junior
Speaker 3: year one, he didn't have great numbers. Twelve points a game,
Speaker 3: maybe six rebounds a game, and blah blah blah. And
Speaker 3: he was still, you know, could have used another year,
Speaker 3: but he was obviously gifted and ready. And he says,
Speaker 3: how can he go with his numbers? It's not about that,
Speaker 3: It's not about numbers. It's funny when the guys take
Speaker 3: their the stats and we do the interviews and they're
Speaker 3: looking at the said, those stats mean nothing, no nothing,
Speaker 3: because if you're good enough, guess well, you play. If
Speaker 3: you're not good enough, you won't play.
Speaker 4: Peyton Watson, a freshman from UCLA a couple of years ago, average,
Speaker 4: I think like six points off the band, playing in
Speaker 4: minimum minutes. First round draft pick, twenty third overall. Is
Speaker 4: that the kid that said, who's it? I think it's
Speaker 4: Peyton Watson? Something Peyden. He's played for one year. He
Speaker 4: was star guard.
Speaker 2: I love the way he played. It was very good.
Speaker 4: He was very good, like he needed another year to
Speaker 4: you know, to explode. No, I love, but he was
Speaker 4: the first round raft Yeah, yeah, no, no, I think he's
Speaker 4: with Carolina or Charlotte.
Speaker 2: I think right now some one of those.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, if you're good enough to play and
Speaker 3: you've seen enough good and you know right away who's
Speaker 3: good enough, right, because you see the same things and
Speaker 3: Caleb bless his heart. I mean, he was fantastic here
Speaker 3: when he was on. Uh, just there's something, there's something
Speaker 3: that he's missing.
Speaker 4: You can I don't know how to phrase it. You
Speaker 4: can tell when a guy is an elite college guy,
Speaker 4: a very good college guy.
Speaker 2: Where you go. He's not an NBA guy, right, No, No,
Speaker 2: he's not going to be an NBA. Sure.
Speaker 3: I think the one curveball that we missed or we
Speaker 3: totally missed TJ McConnell. Yeah, did you're thinking how does
Speaker 3: that translate? And it's translated for ten years because he
Speaker 3: does so many other things.
Speaker 4: You can't replace somebody or you can't measure the intangibles
Speaker 4: to somebody that is head smart, high basketball IQ doesn't
Speaker 4: commit stupid turnovers and mixed a steady voice on.
Speaker 3: It and makes other people look good. Yeah, and works
Speaker 3: his ass off. And not that Caleb doesn't. It's just
Speaker 3: that Caleb has some asterisk asterisks that are kind of
Speaker 3: undescribable in a number of different levels. Right, And maybe
Speaker 3: he'll break through because all it takes is one and
Speaker 3: and and hale. I wish I had his future because
Speaker 3: he's gonna make a lot of money playing basketball somewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean G League invite.
Speaker 4: You know, you go through that route Europe, Europe, you
Speaker 4: go to China, you know, somewhere overseas Italy, you can
Speaker 4: make a ton of money.
Speaker 2: Askkyl Fog.
Speaker 4: He didn't make the NBA, and he made a ton
Speaker 4: of money and that that million dollar bracket basketball.
Speaker 3: And China, and China's building houses for under privilege. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm not cancer. I can't be aware, but you know,
Speaker 3: one of those guys a fantastic career. Yeah, so you know,
Speaker 3: we'll see what happens with Caleb and Brian. I guess
Speaker 3: he's not he's chosen not to. I just saw the
Speaker 3: flash uh to participate, but he's going.
Speaker 2: To be there.
Speaker 4: Brian kind of reminds me in a way. And you
Speaker 4: were there obviously I was too young to really remember fully,
Speaker 4: but andre Iguodala was a guy that needed a lot
Speaker 4: of development, six seven six, a guy that could handle
Speaker 4: the ball, shoot when you needed him to, but wasn't
Speaker 4: perfect offensively. And then the NBA he get you know,
Speaker 4: you practice every day, you're with the right coaches, you're
Speaker 4: with the right people, and his career just shot up. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and don't I don't know if anybody expected that back then,
Speaker 4: but kind of similar, similar build, similar frame.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I actually Brian's pretty better. And the funny
Speaker 3: thing about it back then in two thousand and three,
Speaker 3: I think it was Luke said. Luke Walton said if
Speaker 3: if Andre would All was to stay four years, if
Speaker 3: he were to stay four years, he would be the
Speaker 3: best all time best it was at a basketball player
Speaker 3: ever And he said that, and I was in that conversation,
Speaker 3: and I think it really I'm thinking, well, yeah, probably
Speaker 3: if he stayed four years, and he wasn't only here
Speaker 3: for two. He was a thorn in Lut's side for
Speaker 3: a couple of years, right, because he was just kind
Speaker 3: of like the smartest guy in the room, even though
Speaker 3: Luke was in the room. But he had a fantastic
Speaker 3: career and it was exactly that guy.
Speaker 2: He was good, very very good.
Speaker 4: And you can argue that he has had the best
Speaker 4: Arizona career out of the pros that have made it
Speaker 4: and had long careers. I think he's up there. Richard's
Speaker 4: up there. Shawn's up there. Jason Terry, Jason Terry. Now
Speaker 4: Aaron Gordon's kind of giving in that area as well.
Speaker 2: Mike Bibbee Yeah yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 3: And if you're talking about ngevity, yeah, because he was
Speaker 3: that guy and now he's doing so many other things
Speaker 3: in the game.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're talking just NBA star gilbled Arenas
Speaker 4: for three years was probably the best three years.
Speaker 2: Strategy. Yeah, he was pain.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they're having I don't know if you saw
Speaker 4: they have a doc I saw last night a documentary
Speaker 4: on Netflix called Shooting Guards.
Speaker 2: Yes, have you seen? Have you guy seen it? I
Speaker 2: have not seen.
Speaker 4: I saw the last Like I just saw the the
Speaker 4: Prome advertisement for.
Speaker 2: He was on it.
Speaker 3: He was on it with with with what's his name
Speaker 3: from ESPNS in the morning radio show talking about it
Speaker 3: the whole Crittenton, Mike greenber No, no, no, no, the
Speaker 3: ESPN guy, former long time guy, ESPN guy. You know
Speaker 3: who it is, morning guy Early Morning Now on radio.
Speaker 2: I was thinking Mike and Mike in the morning. No no, no, no, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know Collin Caller. No no, no, that's this Fox guy.
Speaker 2: Well it's Fox Now, but.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, long time with all his guys.
Speaker 3: He's behind the screen, behind the glass, but he was
Speaker 3: talking about it, and he's, you know, the Gilbert being Gilbert.
Speaker 3: Gilbert was paining here. I mean, I was kind of,
Speaker 3: you know, doing things he shouldn't have been doing. But yeah,
Speaker 3: it's I'm gonna have to try to.
Speaker 2: Listen to this.
Speaker 3: I would wish you'd do some stuff on when he
Speaker 3: was in college because he was a pain. He was
Speaker 3: just a quotable pain, but he was a pain well.
Speaker 4: And the and the stories that he's he's shared with
Speaker 4: Channing Fry in their podcast. That seen this clip where
Speaker 4: he joined Channing for his class one year, his freshman year,
Speaker 4: and he stood up and he goes this insert explicit
Speaker 4: whatever is boring, and he shut off all the lights
Speaker 4: of come on, Jenny, let's go. I don't know that, dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just the way it was.
Speaker 3: And he would get into it with Geene Edi Christian
Speaker 3: because Genie was the like, the like the father figure
Speaker 3: of the team, blah blah blah, and did get into
Speaker 3: it a lot. You know, he was seventeen, eighteen years old,
Speaker 3: but a thing crazy at a time where social media
Speaker 3: didn't exist to the degree that he would say some
Speaker 3: crazy stuff and then Luke would get on him and
Speaker 3: get on us for you know, re quoting him and
Speaker 3: tell him not to say it.
Speaker 2: You know, it was the best lineup.
Speaker 5: It.
Speaker 2: Well, if you don't like it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well say it. Well here we are, I
Speaker 3: mean asking. These guys were begging the SID office to
Speaker 3: kind of open it up, and that's what they're afraid of. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you guys like that would just pop off and say
Speaker 3: some crazy stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And you know, I can't imagine because I think it
Speaker 4: was Jay on this radio show was sharing a story
Speaker 4: back when he was with The Star how he did
Speaker 4: an interview with Steve Kerr and he picked him up,
Speaker 4: went to the apartment, did an interview there, took him
Speaker 4: to lunch.
Speaker 2: There was somebody else. Yeah, yeah, you can't do that.
Speaker 3: No, no, I've done that a few times back in
Speaker 3: the day I went I went to senior year, so
Speaker 3: I mean in my the senior year of Miles, all
Speaker 3: these guys, I had them over to the house. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we played ping pong, We we cooked them dinner, My
Speaker 3: wife and I, uh, and we could It was great.
Speaker 3: Ben and Davis and all these guys and they were
Speaker 3: just had a good time at the house and that's
Speaker 3: when I got all my interviews.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that ain't happening anymore.
Speaker 4: And it happens a little with the national people, oh
Speaker 4: for sure, when they come in and they spend a
Speaker 4: couple of days, and especially ESPN or one of those
Speaker 4: national brands. But here's the funny part of it. You
Speaker 4: know what their stories are just the compilation of everybody else's. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they just put them together. All the information, very basic. Yeah,
Speaker 4: lets just get more time with it, unless you're doing
Speaker 4: a documentary where you can really get into the grit
Speaker 4: and grind.
Speaker 2: It's Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was hoping to get Jason on the USA D
Speaker 3: to talk him about, to talk to him about that
Speaker 3: because he can c you know, where he's been, what
Speaker 3: he's going, and he thoughts about maybe opening it up
Speaker 3: even amage board. Uh and maybe maybe he says, yes,
Speaker 3: maybe he's looking into it now.
Speaker 4: In fairness to the side the office into Arizona in general,
Speaker 4: a lot of that is also who's ahead of you
Speaker 4: in terms of the aletic director and also the head coach.
Speaker 2: How the head coach no question, runs their program, no question.
Speaker 3: It's a little control free type of stuff. Hey, Dan Patrick,
Speaker 3: Thank you Bill for that.
Speaker 2: No, oh, there we go. That was Dan Patrick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was last week and then because he had
Speaker 3: him on talking about his son too, and then talked
Speaker 3: about the the title of it is shooting guard, Shooting
Speaker 3: guard guards, and that dude got into big trouble afterward.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, he's in prison now shooting somebody. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's uh, he's calling us.
Speaker 2: What time?
Speaker 3: Three seventeen seventeen, okay, how much time was for a
Speaker 3: commercial desserve show five?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got like three minutes, three minutes okay to
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Speaker 3: Like oh no, okay, no, let's go, let's go, let's
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Speaker 1: the Ball with Steam Rivera on Box Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball here on
Speaker 3: Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera and with me
Speaker 3: today is Troy Hutchinson from Goezy Cats. Now on the phone,
Speaker 3: we have coach Brent Brennan from U A football coach.
Speaker 2: How you doing.
Speaker 13: I'm doing good. How are you guys?
Speaker 2: We're doing fine fine. Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 3: This is about three guys just going to a bar
Speaker 3: and having a soda or two. So we're kind of
Speaker 3: just relaxing here, so enjoy enjoy the show. I hope
Speaker 3: we can have a little fun here. How are things
Speaker 3: going for you? I know you're kind of already still busy, right.
Speaker 3: Did you have a daughter graduate here?
Speaker 13: Yes, had a daughter graduate from University of Colorado over
Speaker 13: the past week, So that was a really cool event
Speaker 13: for our family and got to have all you know,
Speaker 13: my wife and kids together and our grandmas were there,
Speaker 13: and it was a great event.
Speaker 4: Was a great time, right, Nice being able to get
Speaker 4: away from football, because you guys are just wrapping up
Speaker 4: screen football. You've had all these transfers come in, you've
Speaker 4: had recruits coming on campus. Just being able to get
Speaker 4: away for just a short little bit, how does that
Speaker 4: feel on how you know, just refresh yourself from what
Speaker 4: is now? It seems like a never ending job being
Speaker 4: a football coach or a college coach nowadays.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I wouldn't say that trip was a refreshing time.
Speaker 13: You know, hectic time, right and with like screaming at
Speaker 13: each other, you know, you get the family back together,
Speaker 13: everybody falls back into their old you know, dinner reservations
Speaker 13: and all that kind of thing. But no, I think
Speaker 13: your college college football has gotten crazy that way, and it's, uh,
Speaker 13: it seems to never end. And that's okay because we
Speaker 13: love what we do and we and we love what
Speaker 13: we're building here at Arizona and so we're all here
Speaker 13: for the fight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question. Let me ask you.
Speaker 3: I covered Dictomy from eighty seven to ninety and then
Speaker 3: I started coming loop for all this time that he
Speaker 3: was here. Uh, and then you have a lot of
Speaker 3: dictomy traits. Of course, are you a different coach today
Speaker 3: than you were a year ago?
Speaker 13: Well, I think absolutely. I think anytime you take over
Speaker 13: a new job, there's going to be moments of learning,
Speaker 13: and obviously there are lots of tough learning moments for
Speaker 13: us over the last calendar year. But I also feel
Speaker 13: great about the progress we've made. I feel great about
Speaker 13: where our players are at and where our coaching staff
Speaker 13: is at, and I'm excited and optimistic about the future here.
Speaker 4: You know, throughout this spring one of the themes that
Speaker 4: not only you talked about, but coach day he talked
Speaker 4: about as well, was obviously the leadership ability of no
Speaker 4: Fafida and how is the guy in the locker room
Speaker 4: that everybody looks to, but also challenging Noah in terms
Speaker 4: of being more of a vocal leader on the field,
Speaker 4: being a little bit more vocal. How do you think
Speaker 4: he met that challenge this spring, because it seemed like
Speaker 4: he was growing from beginning to end of this spring practice.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 13: I think Noah's made great strides that way, you know,
Speaker 13: on the field, with his leadership, with his voice, And
Speaker 13: I think that's one of those things that you know
Speaker 13: sometimes for guys, it's just, you know, everybody's personality is different,
Speaker 13: and everybody has to lead in their authentic way, otherwise
Speaker 13: everyone thinks they're full of it, right, And so Noah
Speaker 13: finding that voice and really pushing the team. You started
Speaker 13: to see those moments happened this spring where it wasn't
Speaker 13: Coach Daggy or me stepped in the huddle, nos like
Speaker 13: I got it and we would start a series or
Speaker 13: start a drive. And so it's been really fun to
Speaker 13: see that part of him really developed. And I'm excited
Speaker 13: about what you guys are going to see in the
Speaker 13: fall when we start playing real football.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's no question.
Speaker 3: It's funny because I was at the Spring Game Spring
Speaker 3: Showcase and you guys all wax poetics so highly unknown
Speaker 3: and that's not new, right, But for me it was
Speaker 3: like I've never and I've covered a lot of games here,
Speaker 3: thirty seven years of games and events and teams, you
Speaker 3: guys wax poetic on him like crazy. And I'm thinking
Speaker 3: to myself while you guys were talking, I'm thinking, I
Speaker 3: can't remember Luke doing this or Dick Tomy on a
Speaker 3: specific player so highly. Can you maybe remember someone like
Speaker 3: that where you says, this kid has it and it's
Speaker 3: it's something that's maybe from the family and from the field.
Speaker 2: No well, I think.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean who Noah Flafida is definitely starts at
Speaker 13: home with his incredible parents, you know, Less and Winona,
Speaker 13: great parents, and I think, you know, you see that
Speaker 13: translates into how he interacts and how he communicates with people.
Speaker 13: It's really really a special thing. I think one of
Speaker 13: the reasons we feel so strongly with Noah is because
Speaker 13: Noah is one of those kids. It is a high
Speaker 13: profile player that has had a certain level of success here,
Speaker 13: who continues to choose to be loyal, chooses to stay
Speaker 13: at Arizona because he loves Tucson. He loves the University
Speaker 13: of Arizona, he loves his teammates, he loves his coaches,
Speaker 13: he loves where he's at and what he's doing. And
Speaker 13: I think that's one of those reasons that we're so appreciative,
Speaker 13: appreciative of him and how he carries himself is because
Speaker 13: he is one of those players that in today's day
Speaker 13: and age, you know, you don't see as many guys
Speaker 13: making that choice that Noah Flapita makes every year.
Speaker 4: You know, there is a lot of coaching changes for
Speaker 4: you guys this year, bringing in Seth Day, you return
Speaker 4: dannigan ZoZ but promote him to the defensive coordinator. You
Speaker 4: have coach Nivar, coach Joe Salavea as well, And we
Speaker 4: mentioned this with coach dannigan Zaz when we had him
Speaker 4: on last week. The relationship that him and Dagi have
Speaker 4: built together, it's very interesting. You don't see it a
Speaker 4: lot from offenses and defense coordinators, just the level of
Speaker 4: admiration for one another. Can you just talk about that
Speaker 4: and how you've been able to see coach Daghi do
Speaker 4: what he does here and kind of develop as a
Speaker 4: coach in this new coaching staff as he's the first
Speaker 4: year offense coordinator.
Speaker 13: Well, I think on you know, every coaching staff, you know,
Speaker 13: everybody's always trying to push each other, always trying to
Speaker 13: challenge each other. But it's also important that you are
Speaker 13: respectful of each other. And I think that's one of
Speaker 13: those things with coach Gonzalez, with coach Dagi, they both
Speaker 13: have a super high level of respect for each other.
Speaker 13: Now that doesn't mean every day in practice they're not
Speaker 13: trying to rip the other guy's throat out because they are,
Speaker 13: you know what I mean. But it's competitive as hell
Speaker 13: and it's dead ass serious. But those guys are also
Speaker 13: respective of what they're seeing from how each other side
Speaker 13: is coming together and how the offense is growing and
Speaker 13: starting to move with the football, or the days where
Speaker 13: the defense dominates and controls a line of scrimmage and
Speaker 13: you know, the offense can't move it, and so they're
Speaker 13: respectful of each other. I think that's healthy because they
Speaker 13: also have a great communication about like, hey, you're giving
Speaker 13: this away with how you motion this or how you
Speaker 13: formation this, or you're given this away by the rotation
Speaker 13: of the safety. You know, do you guys know that?
Speaker 13: Or is that guy making a mistake. So I think
Speaker 13: the communication is healthy because it gives us a chance
Speaker 13: to move forward as a team and it's not us
Speaker 13: against them or you know, offense versus defense. We're all
Speaker 13: in this thing together and we're all moving the same way.
Speaker 3: Well that's how teams get better, right, You competing against
Speaker 3: each other daily daily, it's like you and your brothers.
Speaker 3: Probably you don't each one of you guys want to
Speaker 3: kick each other ass but at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: have dinner together.
Speaker 13: That's right, That's exactly right. Yeah, yeah, there's nothing more
Speaker 13: fierce than this in a backyard basketball game back in
Speaker 13: the day between Brad Brennan and I. But but yeah, no,
Speaker 13: I think that's important, and I think it's also healthy
Speaker 13: for the staff. Right, there has to be that, you know,
Speaker 13: the football competition, the intensity of the work you do
Speaker 13: when you're on the field has to be high level,
Speaker 13: and it has to be everybody outbsolutely committed to their role,
Speaker 13: their side of the ball, their job.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 13: But at the end of the day, it's about all
Speaker 13: of us making progress, and we know that we have
Speaker 13: to play good and all to play well in all
Speaker 13: three phases to make the move in the Big twelve
Speaker 13: conference we want to make.
Speaker 4: So coach I wanted to bring up I think it's
Speaker 4: a little bit less than a month away. You're going
Speaker 4: to be having your summer camps seven on seven prospect
Speaker 4: camp and a big man O line versus D line camp.
Speaker 4: Can you talk a little bit about that and how
Speaker 4: has the sign up been for that with local high
Speaker 4: schools and high schools. Is it across the country or
Speaker 4: just here locally in Arizona.
Speaker 13: Well, so like the prospect camp will have kids from
Speaker 13: all over the country, and you know that part of
Speaker 13: it is just you know, it's camp season.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 13: The month of June, you know, used to be such
Speaker 13: a kind of a you know, get ready for fall
Speaker 13: camp kind of digest the spring recruiting period that you know,
Speaker 13: like detail your scripts and everything for for fall camp.
Speaker 13: But now it has become you know, there's you get
Speaker 13: to work out with you get to get on the
Speaker 13: field with your players a little bit. Right, you have
Speaker 13: official visit recruiting weekends, and you have camp. So it's
Speaker 13: a chaotic month, it really is. It's one of the
Speaker 13: busiest months of the year that we're not actually playing
Speaker 13: football in and so when we go through those prospect camps,
Speaker 13: so there are great opportunities for us to valuate. You know,
Speaker 13: lots of times when we get a chance, we might
Speaker 13: look at a film of a kid or go watch
Speaker 13: him practice or watch him play, but we want to
Speaker 13: coach him and see how he responds to coaching. Does
Speaker 13: he listen, is it important to him? Is he busting
Speaker 13: his tail into drill work or is he kind of
Speaker 13: going cool guy and not putting forth the effort, you know,
Speaker 13: like we're not looking for cool guys. We're looking for
Speaker 13: badass football players and love the work and love the
Speaker 13: grind and want to be great, you know what I mean.
Speaker 13: So trying to identify some of that stuff, you know,
Speaker 13: as we're recruiting young people through the camp process, and
Speaker 13: so we'll have camps here and then the seven on
Speaker 13: seven things. Those are always good evaluations for us, you know,
Speaker 13: especially for the skill positions quarterbacks, receivers, running back, DB's
Speaker 13: tight ends, all those, all those people. But those are
Speaker 13: really highly competitive because we ate a lot of the
Speaker 13: best teams from the state of Arizona to attend those, uh,
Speaker 13: to attend the seven or seven tournaments. So those are
Speaker 13: a lot of fun for us.
Speaker 3: I'm curious because I haven't really talked to you one
Speaker 3: on one much. We had you on when you first
Speaker 3: got your got your own, got your job, When did
Speaker 3: you see yourself being a head coach and when did
Speaker 3: that dream start?
Speaker 13: You know, it's funny. I think, uh, that's a great question.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 13: I think everybody thinks they can do the job better
Speaker 13: than the guy that's doing it. Sure, and and I
Speaker 13: would say as an assistant coach, I'm sure I was
Speaker 13: guilty of that at certain times. But I was really
Speaker 13: fortunate because I did get to work for good head coaches.
Speaker 13: I got to work for Dick Tom and I got
Speaker 13: to work for Rich Ellerson. I got to work for,
Speaker 13: you know, Mike Riley and Mike mcintar. I got to
Speaker 13: be around for coaches, and every opportunity that you're you
Speaker 13: have like that you're learning kind of ways that you
Speaker 13: would and ways that you would not do it. So
Speaker 13: there was so much I was so fortunate that I
Speaker 13: got to be around all these head coaches that had
Speaker 13: so much experience, you know, you coach Riley, you know,
Speaker 13: coach calling me. Like, those guys have been head coaches
Speaker 13: forever and on a bunch of different levels and a
Speaker 13: bunch of different different places, and so I just really
Speaker 13: valued the time that I was with them, And as
Speaker 13: I was going through it, I was, you know, there's
Speaker 13: part of me that I was like, I wonder if
Speaker 13: that will ever happen for me. But then at the
Speaker 13: same time, I also thought it would be an incredible
Speaker 13: opportunity because I think, uh, you know, my personality loving
Speaker 13: being around people, loving you know, focusing on the development
Speaker 13: a young man, loving the focus, focusing on kind of
Speaker 13: the community and the engagement on that level, and then
Speaker 13: also being really really highly competitive. I wanted to see
Speaker 13: what that what we could build when I got that opportunity.
Speaker 13: So I would say early in my career I started
Speaker 13: thinking about being a head coach.
Speaker 4: So did someone have to convince you to do that?
Speaker 4: You know, says hey, I think you have the qualities
Speaker 4: of being a head coach. You should you should pursue
Speaker 4: that job.
Speaker 13: No, no, not at all. It was you know, when
Speaker 13: the San Jose State. I had interviewed for a head
Speaker 13: coaching job at cal Poly god like forever ago, like
Speaker 13: twenty eighteen years ago, and I didn't get it, and
Speaker 13: then you know, it was probably a decade later something
Speaker 13: like that that the San Jose State called, and so
Speaker 13: I was excited about the opportunity. You know, the places
Speaker 13: that I had been or the places that I that
Speaker 13: I believe in San Jose State was one of them,
Speaker 13: because I had to stretch in my career there where
Speaker 13: I thought we could build a consistent winning football program there.
Speaker 13: And then also University of Arizona. Right, I know, I'd
Speaker 13: coach against and played against great teams here in the past,
Speaker 13: I'd seen them have all kinds of success and kind
Speaker 13: of be all over the place, and so I was
Speaker 13: excited about the challenge and the opportunity of coming to
Speaker 13: the u of A.
Speaker 2: This recruiting season.
Speaker 4: It seems like it could be setting up for a
Speaker 4: special recruiting class for you guys after the first recruiting
Speaker 4: class somewhere in you know that twenty thirty range of
Speaker 4: you believe in the rankings and stuff like that. As
Speaker 4: a person that that works for rivals, I have to
Speaker 4: say that kind of stuff. But just what is what
Speaker 4: has been the feedback you've been getting from recruits after
Speaker 4: the first season, but still keeping them interested in Arizona
Speaker 4: and seeing the development and seeing the progress that you
Speaker 4: guys are making and where your vision is.
Speaker 13: I think that's been really positive. You know, I'm excited
Speaker 13: about where we're at with this recruiting class. I think,
Speaker 13: you know, as we go through the next month and
Speaker 13: a half, where it's going to have to start to
Speaker 13: have a little bit more clarity. Now none of it
Speaker 13: matters still signing day, right, I mean that's one of
Speaker 13: the weird things, right. You recruit players in May and
Speaker 13: June and they commit or they don't. But if they commit,
Speaker 13: then you know, they don't sign until December, right till
Speaker 13: the beginning of December, so there's you know, four and
Speaker 13: a half months there where you're continuing to recruit them,
Speaker 13: continue to build that relationship, you know, trying to make
Speaker 13: sure that you know, since they are committed, that they
Speaker 13: stay with that commitment. I think it's going to be
Speaker 13: really interesting. You know, hopefully the settlement goes through with
Speaker 13: the the you know, the how settlement, and we'll be
Speaker 13: able to have a little bit more clarity of what
Speaker 13: college football is going to look like for everybody. I
Speaker 13: think one of those things where you know, all those
Speaker 13: things have not been the same program to program, and
Speaker 13: hoping that would give us a little more consistency and
Speaker 13: a little bit more you know, parodying college football. I
Speaker 13: think that would be really really valuable and that everyone
Speaker 13: you know is playing with the same you know, with
Speaker 13: the same deck. And so I think it's going to
Speaker 13: be exciting to see what transpires in the next week
Speaker 13: or so, you know, with the house settlement, because I
Speaker 13: think that's really also going to impact recruiting in a
Speaker 13: significant way.
Speaker 3: What would today's Brent Brennan tell the Brent Brennan of
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety whatever. Maybe the eighteen year old kid.
Speaker 13: Oh gosh, I told you, I told you this is
Speaker 13: white rangings.
Speaker 2: But go to class.
Speaker 13: Yeah, go to class.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 13: You know. Football has been so good to me, and
Speaker 13: I loved it when I played. I love the camaraderie
Speaker 13: of it. I love the brotherhood of it. I love
Speaker 13: the works, the grind of it, you know, I love
Speaker 13: kind of the schematic and kind of the cerebral part
Speaker 13: of it. And I don't think you know that that
Speaker 13: ever eighteen year old, nineteen year old kid would have
Speaker 13: ever thought that football would have taken me just on
Speaker 13: this incredible life journey for friends, family, wins, losses, up
Speaker 13: to down, highs lows, all these incredible, you know, incredible
Speaker 13: moments and these incredible challenges to find ways to overcome.
Speaker 13: So I'm incredibly grateful to the game of football. And
Speaker 13: I love coming to work every day. I love coming
Speaker 13: to work with the players and the people we have
Speaker 13: in this building here at Arizona, and I love where
Speaker 13: we're headed.
Speaker 3: How let me ask you this, how frustrated or I
Speaker 3: don't want to put a word in your mouth, was
Speaker 3: last year for you? And did you have to maybe
Speaker 3: find your Interdictomy or whomever Ellerson to kind of say Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm going to get through this and everything's going to
Speaker 3: be okay.
Speaker 13: Yeah, Oh my gosh, yeah, Yesterda's the last year was
Speaker 13: incredibly frustrating. I mean, it was miserable for just just
Speaker 13: that that was so challenging. Yeah, you know, and for
Speaker 13: more than anything, I felt for the players and for
Speaker 13: our fans, because everybody was disappointed, you know what I mean.
Speaker 13: And so the biggest thing when you're in a situation
Speaker 13: like that is, all right, what's broken, you know, and
Speaker 13: how are we going to fix it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 13: And you know what things are we doing to make
Speaker 13: this thing better and and improve the issues that we had?
Speaker 13: And I feel like we've made a lot of strides there.
Speaker 13: I feel like we're in a great spot with our
Speaker 13: coaching staff and the decisions and and the things that
Speaker 13: we chose to do there. And I feel good about
Speaker 13: the pieces that we've been able to retain of our
Speaker 13: own roster and the pieces that we've been able to
Speaker 13: acquire through the transfer portal. And so I think you're
Speaker 13: always building a football team. It doesn't it never stops.
Speaker 13: There's no like pause button on that. And I think
Speaker 13: every day we continue to make good progress towards building
Speaker 13: the kind of program that we can all be proud
Speaker 13: of it. Arizona.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me, we had your running back who wasn't
Speaker 3: eligible last year. I think we had the right before
Speaker 3: the draft, and I've said this openly that how you
Speaker 3: had him the season would have been totally different. I'm
Speaker 3: sure you may or mean not feel that way, but
Speaker 3: a lot of people just when that happened, I'm thinking, God,
Speaker 3: that's a huge blow.
Speaker 13: Absolutely, that was a really tough situation. And you know
Speaker 13: what's so great about that young man, Corey, is it
Speaker 13: he's still got drafted. Yeah, and he's still going to
Speaker 13: get a chance of being an NFL football player. And
Speaker 13: I think that is just really special because every day
Speaker 13: that young man showed up for work, he busted his ass.
Speaker 13: He ran down on the Scout kickoff team, he played
Speaker 13: Scout running back, he played Scout team dB. If we
Speaker 13: needed him, he did whatever it took. He just kept playing.
Speaker 13: He loved being here, he loved being around the team.
Speaker 13: You know, the University of Arizona was great to him,
Speaker 13: and his experience here was really positive. So he kept
Speaker 13: showing up and giving to the team. I thought that
Speaker 13: was just it's a great ending to that story in
Speaker 13: terms of him getting drafted even without playing his last year.
Speaker 4: Coach, not a lot of people in Tucson, I think,
Speaker 4: know that you are a big barbecue guy, and a
Speaker 4: lot of the coaches on the coaching staff had said, oh,
Speaker 4: he's a pitmaster type of barbecue guy. Coach Navar, I know,
Speaker 4: is a big barbecue guy as well. Who would you
Speaker 4: say is the best barbecue guy or barbecue coach on
Speaker 4: the team?
Speaker 13: Oh? Shoot, that's a good question because I have not
Speaker 13: coached with coach and Ivory yet and I know he's serious.
Speaker 13: It's funny, you know, my a few years ago, my
Speaker 13: son told my wife that when I became a head coach,
Speaker 13: I lost the spirit of barbecue because you just didn't.
Speaker 13: I didn't have him as much time for it anymore.
Speaker 13: When I was an assistant coach, I used to barbecue
Speaker 13: for the players all the time, which was just really fun.
Speaker 13: It was great to get the guys around the house
Speaker 13: and you know, just have a good meal, and I
Speaker 13: want to make sure the food was good. So I
Speaker 13: worked really hard at it. But you know, I got
Speaker 13: to spend all the time with coach and Iver and
Speaker 13: find out, you know, what his what his go to
Speaker 13: move is. But it is a fun way to bring
Speaker 13: people together. And as long as the food's good, people players,
Speaker 13: everybody will show up. And so you got to make
Speaker 13: sure you know what you're doing.
Speaker 4: As a barbecue guy myself, because I used to work
Speaker 4: at a barbecue place and I also have my own
Speaker 4: smoker at the house. Would you be willing And again
Speaker 4: you said you have not a lot of time on
Speaker 4: your hands.
Speaker 13: President, Yeah, let's go. Yeah, we're talking about here.
Speaker 4: I was thinking either a brisket, pull pork something where
Speaker 4: you know it's thirteen sixteen hours smoke. But that's up
Speaker 4: to you. Whatever, whatever you want to do.
Speaker 13: I would love it.
Speaker 8: Can I can?
Speaker 13: I have Nither in the pit with me.
Speaker 4: Oh, he came on. Okay, three of you guys do it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, why not? A contest for Cherry. I would love
Speaker 2: it for Cherito love it? Okay, and we have love it.
Speaker 4: A couple of coaches and players on the team decide
Speaker 4: who wins.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 13: Cool, Yeah, that'd be awesome. I'd be all for it.
Speaker 3: Coach, thanks so much for joining us. I know it's
Speaker 3: all over the map, but we wanted to get you
Speaker 3: on the show.
Speaker 13: Appreciate you, no problem, had a great time coming on
Speaker 13: with you guys. You got to take care.
Speaker 2: Thank you have a good one.
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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to me in the ball here on
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Speaker 3: Us Sam from Goasycats and we got ray with us today.
Speaker 2: That was fun.
Speaker 3: This is my show, my premise before you know, I
Speaker 3: started another station a while back and then brought Jay Uh.
Speaker 3: Just like dudes sitting at a bar drinking beers, and
Speaker 3: that was kind of like that definitely because he was relaxed.
Speaker 2: Right, That's one of the.
Speaker 4: Most relaxed interviews I've seen from Brennan in a while. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and I think, well, this brain he was pretty relaxed.
Speaker 4: But in compared to that first year, Yeah, that just yeah,
Speaker 4: you don't let it rep just a dude talking sporting
Speaker 4: football and sports and life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good.
Speaker 3: If you missed it, just go be sure to see
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Speaker 2: I'll have it on all the time, but once it
Speaker 2: goes up. That was good. That's fun.
Speaker 3: I'm going to be doing a magazine story on him
Speaker 3: here in the fall, So I just kind of wanted
Speaker 3: to talk to him about, you know, about life, because
Speaker 3: it's it's more about life and football.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, everybody knows okay, he's the football
Speaker 4: coach Texas, and but they don't know the coaches, they
Speaker 4: don't know the staff.
Speaker 2: We don't get for them.
Speaker 3: Not enough time to meet with those guys and say,
Speaker 3: you know, you know how you doing and you bought
Speaker 3: we bought up or you guys brought it up. And
Speaker 3: I asked the question about the daughter being Colorado and
Speaker 3: graduating and they do have lives right outside of work.
Speaker 4: Family dynamics of getting everybody's scheduled to go and dinner
Speaker 4: plans here nobody thinks about that stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, and then you know how it is, Oh family,
Speaker 3: what great family, and it's chaotic for everybody. It's just
Speaker 3: like Thanksgiving for everybody.
Speaker 2: You're ready to eat? No, mom, I'm not hungry right now,
Speaker 2: and go sit at the small table. Thanks when's the
Speaker 2: and all?
Speaker 4: When you were at the Citizen and at the Star
Speaker 4: during that Thanksgiving time, when do you remember a time
Speaker 4: where you were able to have a normal Thanksgiving?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Not never, never, in funny, never, very rare because I
Speaker 3: was on the road in the game most of the time.
Speaker 3: And I remember nineteen eighty nine, eighty eight, I was
Speaker 3: dating nineteen ninety maybe my Thanksgiving dinner was spaghetti, spaghetti.
Speaker 3: I had to cook spaghetti and that was my dinner.
Speaker 3: You know, I talk about all the time because we're
Speaker 3: on the road all the time right right, And Bruce
Speaker 3: is living it now. When we were on the road,
Speaker 3: him and I would get together every now and again,
Speaker 3: but it was always doing something. For the ninety seven
Speaker 3: Final four and they had won that Friday, that Saturday, right,
Speaker 3: and then Monday was a championship game. That Sunday was Easter.
Speaker 3: So I guess where our our Easter dinner was? Are
Speaker 3: collectively all the sports writers some.
Speaker 4: Of the sports writers at some restaurants because it was.
Speaker 3: The only thing opened at nine o'clock where we were
Speaker 3: all done. Yeah, you know, it was packed obviously because
Speaker 3: it's you know, a huge fantast but we had finally
Speaker 3: done writing all day or writing.
Speaker 2: And what's open? Hooters?
Speaker 4: So we went to Hooters. Yes, yes, but that's just
Speaker 4: the way life is. I mean, even now, how I
Speaker 4: live my life is it's'm a fast food dude, because
Speaker 4: this how I lived my life for thirty five years,
Speaker 4: you know, the last like I want to say, five
Speaker 4: six Thanksgivings. I've always heard, Oh, how was your things doing?
Speaker 13: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I had dinner at the family later,
Speaker 4: but yeah, it was good. What do you mean you were, Well,
Speaker 4: you're covering a game or you're watching a game where
Speaker 4: you're watching something covering something because there's the women's basketball
Speaker 4: non conference tournaments are happening during that time, and the
Speaker 4: men's basketball and non conference tournaments or somewhere are happening
Speaker 4: at that time most likely, and you know what the
Speaker 4: championship game is usually Thanksgiving Day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're always working.
Speaker 3: We were at covering the team in probably in New
Speaker 3: York for the NIT preseason, and it was like that
Speaker 3: down we're to have the parades and all that stuff,
Speaker 3: the floats, and we were right there on Central right
Speaker 3: there in Manhattan. It's crazy and the people massive, and
Speaker 3: if you were outside, you wouldn't get back into your
Speaker 3: room for four or five hours because there was so
Speaker 3: many people there. So you just stayed in your room,
Speaker 3: got room service, and watched it from the hotel. It
Speaker 3: was just that busy.
Speaker 2: It's funny.
Speaker 3: I did a column about that, speaking of ninety seven
Speaker 3: where we ate a Hooters and there was you know,
Speaker 3: twelve hour days, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: And one of the one of the.
Speaker 3: Fans or whoever sent the letter to the Edter Steve
Speaker 3: stopped your complaining. People would love to do what you
Speaker 3: do and and go to games for a living, and
Speaker 3: you know that's not work. You know, roofing in Tucson
Speaker 3: and July is is work. That wasn't my point. That
Speaker 3: wasn't my point. I understand all that and this is
Speaker 3: what I wanted to do all my life. That wasn't
Speaker 3: my point. My point is it's not as glamorous as
Speaker 3: you think it is.
Speaker 4: No, and then yes, that sounds great, But then those
Speaker 4: people that write you that or say that, oh you
Speaker 4: don't work and dah da da da da, then they.
Speaker 2: Do it for oh this things. Yeah yeah, well yeah,
Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to Are you.
Speaker 4: Less of that said? Are you less of a people
Speaker 4: know that I'm not a sports fan like they used
Speaker 4: to do. Are you less of a sports fan for college?
Speaker 2: At least?
Speaker 4: Because I cover college sports for pros I can be
Speaker 4: a fan like I don't cover pro sports. So like
Speaker 4: I'm a huge linebacked Sons and Bronco fan. But now
Speaker 4: I grew up here in Tucson. I was a huge
Speaker 4: u of a Wildcat fan. Not as much, No, no one.
Speaker 4: You have to be unbiased. I do believe in that.
Speaker 2: And sure you know how I am. I am definitely.
Speaker 4: And I believe my coverage in my writing is very unbiased.
Speaker 4: And I'm fair to both sides too. You see how
Speaker 4: everything is put together now you know how the pie
Speaker 4: is now again, I think it's a lot better than
Speaker 4: when I first got here in terms of covering.
Speaker 2: There wasn't an athletics.
Speaker 4: But you meet a lot of great people and you
Speaker 4: meet sometimes yeah, some great people along the way, Sue.
Speaker 4: The good thing is it's like eighty twenty, if not
Speaker 4: maybe nineteen ten. Yeah, yeah, but you do remember the ten?
Speaker 4: Do you remember the ten and you remember the top
Speaker 4: of that ninety? Yeah, Like coach Andrea, I will always
Speaker 4: be appreciative for I got to cover his last four years.
Speaker 2: And you learn a lot from coaches like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Andy Lopez, Andrea, all these people, Rubios. The funny
Speaker 3: thing about it is I could write back in the
Speaker 3: day when I wrote a lot in every day. I'm
Speaker 3: sure Bruce does too. We're got a call, okay, I'll
Speaker 3: tell the story later. Hello, you're on the air, nine
Speaker 3: on the ball. Who's this Hey, it's been a while, Howard.
Speaker 2: How are you doing? Yeah? Good, doing great. Just what
Speaker 2: you guys were saying.
Speaker 16: You know, you're not a sports fan and makes so
Speaker 16: much sense, Steep because you cover it. It's just like
Speaker 16: being construction. I hate watching those do it yourself for shows.
Speaker 16: Yeah you know what I mean. You know how to
Speaker 16: do it people? Yeah, I mean most of it. But
Speaker 16: you know, because it's different parts of the country. We
Speaker 16: do things different. But yeah, they're so boring to me
Speaker 16: and I just turn it off.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, for here, it's just like this is what
Speaker 3: we do twenty four seven. Especially like when I was married,
Speaker 3: we'd go to dinner this says, oh h can we
Speaker 3: talk and my wife would be like enough enough.
Speaker 2: We don't need to hear about basketball time. You know that?
Speaker 4: And that's how move was you excuse me?
Speaker 2: Coach Olsen? Can I sorry to bother you?
Speaker 4: Well, you're gonna bother me, sorry, right, you know, he's
Speaker 4: too much basketball.
Speaker 16: It's like, give us a break for a minute, right right, Yeah,
Speaker 16: for sure. But but I just have to say something
Speaker 16: good about Chicago. I'm not a bullstand, but the Cubs are.
Speaker 16: They're doing good. They just needed a little help. And
Speaker 16: I think my Cubs are doing way better than Jay's team.
Speaker 2: Than the Dodgers. Are they close?
Speaker 16: Well yeah, but remember they're in a little bit better division.
Speaker 16: I get that the Dodgers, but if they don't have show,
Speaker 16: he's to turn it really up because he's not gonna
Speaker 16: have a season like last year.
Speaker 3: So Howard, I have to take a dig at you.
Speaker 3: How the Sun's doing.
Speaker 16: All we can say, Hey, at least Boston is going
Speaker 16: to be out of it.
Speaker 4: That's all I want. No, they're gonna win this. They're
Speaker 4: gonna win this series. They'll get to this series. We'll
Speaker 4: see what that.
Speaker 16: So it's going to be the Western team winning. So
Speaker 16: that's what we care about. It's a tougher conference.
Speaker 3: Thanks Howard, thanks for calling, Thanks for right. Okay, so
Speaker 3: I did what was I talking about? Ninety seven? Did
Speaker 3: this story blah blah blah bother Yeah, no, there was
Speaker 3: something else N said. I'll tell this story my suspend
Speaker 3: as everybody knows.
Speaker 2: That sucks. But that's just the way the job is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it definitely isn't. I don't know if it's
Speaker 4: the degree to Howard's point in terms of I can't
Speaker 4: watch the I love watching sports.
Speaker 2: I do. Oh yeah, yeah, you know that the same.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that stasts the same, but you watch it differently. Yeah, Like, okay,
Speaker 4: you're at home when you're a kid, as a uo
Speaker 4: a fan, every little thing that doesn't go of it, Oh,
Speaker 4: it's the rest fall itself. Now it's like, no, they
Speaker 4: just fumbled. They played like yeah, they played like not
Speaker 4: very good. Well yeah, well I didn't want to pull
Speaker 4: them brenn in it buzzed out. So but yeah, they
Speaker 4: didn't play very good or you know, it just didn't
Speaker 4: go the way.
Speaker 2: You get less attached to.
Speaker 3: It, Oh yeah, of course, and you get older to you,
Speaker 3: you know, all that fandom goes away.
Speaker 17: I think it's like kind of getting back to what
Speaker 17: Howard was saying, it's more like comparable to like how
Speaker 17: you watch like maybe like ESPN Sports putting its where
Speaker 17: it's like they're just talking like, you.
Speaker 2: Know, that's fair because I can't do that.
Speaker 3: I don't do that at all. I don't at all,
Speaker 3: even when I'm coming to the show and I maybe
Speaker 3: take an interurn back to the to the to the
Speaker 3: campus and we'd listened to sports because you know, my
Speaker 3: music and their music is not the same. You hear
Speaker 3: these things and I'm thinking they're talking about this, who
Speaker 3: really gives a crap about that?
Speaker 4: Or they know nothing about this because they don't really,
Speaker 4: they're not there.
Speaker 3: And I'm grateful for people listening to us in the
Speaker 3: show and to me, wex poetic on nothing. But but
Speaker 3: I mean they're price saying, Steve, what the hell are
Speaker 3: you talking about? Your opinion sucks? You know, what I'm
Speaker 3: saying when I listened, I don't listen to stephen A.
Speaker 3: I don't listen to some of the other guys. I'm
Speaker 3: thinking they're gonna tell me that I don't already know.
Speaker 4: I if I listen to like a sports thing, like
Speaker 4: let's say pro something, probably I'm albing at work at
Speaker 4: the end of the day, quick pitch something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: probably specifically on Bronco coverage, if there's a Bronco podcast,
Speaker 4: this and that. But what I've learned while doing this,
Speaker 4: like we saw this year with the draft, you have
Speaker 4: a national guy and Steve, Steve Smith trashing Bobby Wade
Speaker 4: trashing that Darro McMillan. It's like, well, you were never
Speaker 4: you don't see how hard he worked. You ever had practice.
Speaker 4: Here's the problem. Do you blame them? I don't know
Speaker 4: about Steve. I didn't listen to that, that gibberish. But
Speaker 4: but he got that information from somewhere, so he was
Speaker 4: the messenger for somebody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you have to you have to see it though, right. No, No,
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you. I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 3: But if someone's gonna tell me and I say, hey,
Speaker 3: a scout's telling me this and blah blah, and this
Speaker 3: is what he said. It's not coming from me, it's
Speaker 3: coming from them. But they were total he was and
Speaker 3: it proved to be totally incorrect. Yes, that's and that's
Speaker 3: why I agree with you. Some of these guys say
Speaker 3: some crazy stuff and it doesn't turn out to be true.
Speaker 4: No, and then when the guy does succeed, they're like, oh,
Speaker 4: everybody knew, well, the local media that was covering them dead,
Speaker 4: but the national media that was trashing them, No, you didn't.
Speaker 4: Yeah he had them at number fifty on your big
Speaker 4: board or whatever reason. But yeah, No, that to me,
Speaker 4: that's what drives me nuts now more than anything in
Speaker 4: terms of sports, is like, yeah, I can't enjoy that
Speaker 4: sell coverage the way I used.
Speaker 3: To wear Oh well, because you know, you know now
Speaker 3: how it actually works.
Speaker 4: It's just a bunch of crap because you know they're
Speaker 4: not there for me at least, Like, Okay, they have
Speaker 4: their sources, sure, but who are your sources? And if
Speaker 4: you're never at these events, if you're not watching everything,
Speaker 4: you don't know.
Speaker 17: No, I mean Kendrick Perkins, like this weekend, I think
Speaker 17: Sun Sunday after the Pacers game. He was like, oh,
Speaker 17: I didn't know who Miles, Like, I didn't know Miles
Speaker 17: Turner could do all that.
Speaker 2: And it's like, man, he's been in the league for
Speaker 2: like ten years, right right in the fact.
Speaker 3: And then you start having uh uh, sports people on
Speaker 3: sports people crime. I mean, Charles Barkley rips into your
Speaker 3: that guy you just Perkins, you just mentioned it, and
Speaker 3: they're all fighting with each other because everyone knows more
Speaker 3: than the other guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, and you're on that station. We're on this station,
Speaker 4: so automatically we're gonna rip that station.
Speaker 3: Sure, sure, And do they know It's like Charles, who's
Speaker 3: very good at what he does, But the.
Speaker 2: Thing is he's never right on anything. He's not good
Speaker 2: at predicting. But I think in terms of the so you.
Speaker 4: Know what you you stop, well, you know what you
Speaker 4: do is when he predicts your team to win it,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, it's probably over.
Speaker 2: It's probably over.
Speaker 4: And Arizona asked him to stop picking you if you
Speaker 4: want to win a national title because.
Speaker 2: You a lot.
Speaker 4: I hear that all the time. Charles picked us to win.
Speaker 4: That said, that's not a good thing, not a good thing,
Speaker 4: and he's never right, which is a good thing. That's
Speaker 4: why they call it a Charles Barkley guarantee.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, we gotta go get the first hour. Thanks
Speaker 3: Coach Brennan for coming on. We're gonna get breaking news
Speaker 3: from my boy Roy here in the next five minutes.