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Speaker 1: Welcome back, everyone to a new episode of You're Wrong

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with Molly having Away, editor in chief of The Federalist

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and David Harsani, a senior writer at The Washington Examiner.

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Just as a reminder, if you'd like to email the show,

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you can do so at radio at the Federalist dot com.

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We'd love to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: Mother. You're back from your travels. It's been weeks. It

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seems like since you've been home.

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Speaker 3: I've been traveling for like a month I've been I

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have not been home much at all. Thankfully, my family

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was able to be with me at a wedding two

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weekends ago in Nashville, so it hasn't all been without them.

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But yeah, since we when we taped last week, I

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was in Hillsdale, Michigan. I came home, headed down to

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Tampa for memoir, then came back and flew to Phoenix

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to host The Charlie Kirk Show, and got back last night.

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So glad to be.

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Speaker 2: Here this week. Let's start with the topic of left

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wing violence, which seems to be a running theme for

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a while now. I mean, I think it actually goes

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back to the sixties, but you know, in modern times

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and let's talk about a Virginia Attorney general candidate j Jones,

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who's a Democrat. I think he's been up in the polls,

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but I think it was I think it was a

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National Review that broke the story of his texts with

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someone where in essence, not in essence literally, he said

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that he'd like to shoot this Republican I think he's

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a House member in Virginia, delegate or I'm not sure

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what he is, but in the head twice two bullets.

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Then he says that his children deserve to be dead.

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I think two children, correct.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So he said, if you had two bullets and

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three people in front of you, the Republican political opponent,

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Poulpot and Hitler, he would put two bullets in the

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head of the Republican Speaker of the House every time.

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And he says this to someone who says, you know,

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you shouldn't be speaking this way, and he's like, no,

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let me explain what I'm saying here, and he digs

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down deeper into it, and she, I think she was like,

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this is really horrible what you're saying, and he's like, no,

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it's not. I have a clear philosophy here, and it's

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to murder my political opponents. I mean, he had multiple

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opportunities to back away or say oh, that was the

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heat of the moment, and then he actually calls her

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up and tells her more about this philosophy of his

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about killing people, saying that he thinks that that political

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opponent's wife I think, or he should be forced to

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watch the death of his own children, because then maybe

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he'll start following left wing politics, because only the death

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of your children that you have to sit there and

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watch would make you turn away from Republican politics. I mean,

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it's just it's a lot.

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Speaker 2: Basically, the dude had a bunch of opportunities to walk

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it back and say, listen, just saying theoretically, if people

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saw their own children dying, they would understand how democrats

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are good for society or whatever. But he didn't do that. Obviously,

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something wrong with him. I think it speaks to kind

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of the way some or many, or I don't know

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how many people on the left think about their politics.

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It's sort of a life and death issue, you know,

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as their religion. Almost this barely got any coverage on

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any major news network. I think one of them spoke

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about it for sixty three seconds total. The others did

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not even mention it. You remember, like, if this was,

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first of all, this was Republican, it would be massive,

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you know, it would be just huge news. You remember

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Todd Aiken was that his you remember, Yeah, And he

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said something I don't even remember exactly what he said

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that was a major national scandal.

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Speaker 3: He said something wrong. I mean, he's what Toddyikin said

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was he was being asked about his pro life position.

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And there's a thing that happens in the media and

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among other Democrats where they say, okay, so you think

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that you shouldn't kill a human. I'm getting that, But

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what if the human is the product of a rape?

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And so it's this like gotcha thing. It's true that

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not very many children are conceived by rape, but some are.

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I happen to know some who are. And what Toadyikin

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had said was that legitimate rape, meaning like I think

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what he meant there was like not date rape or

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actually I had no idea what he meant there. I

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don't know, but it was wrong. He was like, legitimate

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rape doesn't usually result in conception of babies. He was wrong,

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and it was this politically stupid thing to say, but

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it It became the most important nationwide story for weeks

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in order to harm the Republicans during the midterm elections,

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to take him down. Every single Republican was badgered. Do

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you agree with this? What do you think about it?

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You know, like you certainly don't think that babies shouldn't

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be killed, do you?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 3: I mean it just was like a major Democrat propaganda effort,

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laundered of course through their propaganda arm, the corporate media.

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And you're right when Jay Jones, who's running to be

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Attorney general, top law enforcement officer in my commonwealth, says this,

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I mean, this is like a big position in a

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year where there aren't very many races. Nobody mentions it.

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because I like to do that to see how left

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wing media operate. And first of all, it was whatever

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Kristen Welker hosts. I always, they're all like so interchangeable.

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I forget which one which network is, Which is she NBC?

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I don't know, And she has on like two two

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left wing journalists near its tand in and then a

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never like an anti Trump Republican Mark Short, so that's

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like the panel, she does not mention a word of this.

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She just basically runs pro Obamacare propaganda throughout the thing

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and then mark short mentions like isn't aside Jay Jones

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And that's how it got mentioned? And she says, Yesnir,

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why don't you talk about it? This could become a

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big story. It was like, was not going to become

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a big story when you're suppressing it and censoring it

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from your show.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's a local crime story, Molly, just an aside

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on Aiken and that whole thing. Like I remember now

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writing a column about how Republicans who are pro life

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for some reason have never learned how to actually talk

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about the more delicate issues regarding that. So if you

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ask someone about rape, which is always the big gatchu,

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you know, and you might say, you know, it's tragedy

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and horrible, but we can't compound one tragedy with the next,

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or something like that, and this dummy says, oh, legitimate

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rape doesn't Like It's almost like they need to be

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sent to some kind of training to give answers that

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make that. You know, it's a tough issue that makes

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some sort of sense to people.

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Speaker 3: I would like to do an aside here. I don't

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know if you've seen the viral three minute clip of

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a thirty minute video that Katie Porter had with a

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California journalist.

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Speaker 2: Psycho.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 3: I think Katie Porter has a well established reputation is

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being kind of crazy, right, like she'd think she dumped

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alleged to have dumped boiling mashed potatoes on her husband's

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head or ex husband. Staff said, she's a little what

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any But in this interview, it's a very gentle like

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such a gentle interview, the kind that a Republican would

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literally never get. She's asked about how she might try

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to reach out to the forty percent of Californians who

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voted for Trump, and she's like, why would I need to?

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Like why would I need to do that to win?

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But the question was really more about like how, like

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how would you or just kind of like a discussion

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about it. And she starts saying she just doesn't feel

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like it's a friendly interview and she doesn't want to

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have a friendly and unfriendly discussion and how she doesn't

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want this on tape. I was thinking she really thought

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that she could say all these things on camera and

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that there would be no downside to it, whereas a

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Republican political candidate goes into every single interview knowing that

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he's headed into war. Actually, speaking of stupid politicians, they

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don't usually realize they're headed into war, and that's why

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they get royaled so much. But they've never thought this

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is going to be a friendly interview. You know, they

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remember thought this person, this person has my best interest

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at heart. Katie Porter clearly thought that she could just

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negotiate with the left winger or with the journalist, because

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so many journalists do that. Do you know what I mean? Like,

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you don't have that attitude of entitlement to having a

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friendlier interview if you haven't spent your whole life having

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friendly interviews.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course their expectation is that the that the

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journalist is going to help them and andb in some

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softballs for them to to hit home runs with or whatever.

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about how it's not exactly an interview, but talk about

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Pam Bondi. Is that too weird to segue here? But

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talk about Pam Bondi being in front of the Senate yesterday,

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I think for five hours or something I only saw highlights,

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but they were fantastic. I'm not a huge Pam Bondi fan,

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I have to be honest, but I liked her aggressive

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attitude and calling like no matter what the senator asked them,

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she would she would like hone in on on the

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thing that they did, like shutting down the government with

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Adam Schiff, like you know, his dishonesty. So I like.

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I like that because I find congressional hearings incredibly boring.

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Usually I hate the arrogance of senators and how they

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talk to the people's show up. This isn't a dictatorship,

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you know. They drag CEOs down and burrate them and

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don't let them answer questions or even you know, even

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even administration members. So I don't know if you saw that,

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but it was it was quite quite fun for me

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to watch, at least the highlights for it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, so I haven't seen it yet. I was

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on a cross country flight and then just we're taping

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this in the morning, so I haven't gotten caught up

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on everything from yesterday yet. But I do feel that

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something like that is okay because Congress is broken, and

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so to pretend that a congressional oversight hearing is trying

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to find out facts in a legitimate way, is not.

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I don't know how to quite explain what I'm saying. Sorry,

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it's too early and I haven't had enough coffee. But

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whatever Congress used to be, it's completely broken now. And

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these hearings are all about getting clips so that you

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can look great for rating a witness and then or

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you can send it out to your donor pool so

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that they will give you more money. And so I

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don't feel you need to be overly deferential. But having

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said that, Congress is the article one branch and if

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they are looking for information, people should give it, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean I didn't love all her answers on, for instance, Holman,

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this claim that he was bribed, you know, I don't

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you know with fifty thousand dollars. I don't know if

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any of that's true, Probably not. But she wouldn't answer

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that if she had a tape of this happening with

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the FBI, which she release it, and stuff like that.

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So I found her circumventing that kind of oversight and

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quite annoying, you know, But you're right, it's all grand standing,

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or most of it is just grand standing and sound bites.

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There are a few Senators John Kennedy from Louisiana, who

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I I think he's one of my favorite senators in

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a way as far as his grant standing, because he

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does go after every I feel like he takes his

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job as a senator more seriously than most people.

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Speaker 4: I do too.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I've testified in front of him, and I definitely

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picked up that feeling. This reminds me that after I

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testified for the second time, so I've testified in front

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of a House committee and a Senate subcommittee, and after

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had noted that I hadn't done the normal like pleasantries

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when you begin your testimony. And I go back and

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I look and actually this is true. Most people say, oh,

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your honor, your most honorable people, thank you so much

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for allowing me a peasant to speak before your august body,

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and thank you so much. And I just kind of

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started off with, like, I'm Molly Hemingham, editor in chief

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with the Federalist. Here's what we're going through with censorship

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or you know, whatever whatever the thing was, because I

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do think it's very American to not bow down before

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a president or a senator or a member of Congress.

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The whole point is that they're supposed to be just people.

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I mean, we honor them as elected officials, but you

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don't need to over you don't need to guild the

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, and I agree completely. I hate that.

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co founder of the Federalists, testifying before the Senate Commerce

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the Federalist has been in just an epic and existential

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battle against censorship, some of which happened from the federal government,

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which is, you know, all all of the social media

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left wing social media suppression of conservative speech and debate

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has been awful to go through. It is unconstitutional when

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it's funded or supported or marketed by our federal government.

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the State Department, who we sued over their role in

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the censorship. Secretary of State Marco Rubio admitted in our

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pages that we were censored for our speech, constitutionally protected speech,

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and it's just been a horrible thing and very difficult

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to go through, and it kind of was infuriating after

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regulated airwaves. I'm not even saying. We talked about this already.

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that it's the worst thing in the world if the

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laws in the laws regulating those airwaves are actually enforced.

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We are the Federalist is not on public anything, and

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we should not be censored in any way. And that

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we've had to endure so much of it because of

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how effective we are has been just been a lot

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to deal with. So I'm really glad he'll be testifying

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we'll talk about that next week. Just quickly,

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getting back to j Jones for one moment. There's a

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story of his texts which are sick. There's the story

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of the lack of coverage in the media's attempts to

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silly cover up what is a scandal. Then there We

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should also note that not a single as of this taping,

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I believe that there is not a single Virginia, not

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a single Democrat. I mean in Virginia, who has you know,

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rescinded their support for him. There were some perfunctory comments

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about how it wasn't very nice, but yet you know

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he's the right man? Is he the right man? I

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will never understand this sort of thing where I don't

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know exactly what technically what they would have to go through,

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but is this the only man who can run for

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this position in all of Virginia? Is this the man

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you want representing Virginia? This will never this scandal will

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never leave. This isn't just some He didn't misspeak. He

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didn't you know, get angry and say something to someone

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that he regretted. Even his apology blamed it, called the

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National Review Trump controlled media, like they think they can

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just make everything about Donald Trump. His apology was terrible.

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And yet I also live in Virginia. The you know

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Democrats are right behind him. No one is going to leave.

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can't even come together and say a guy who wants

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to see his opponent's children dead is not the sort

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of person we should have in government. I just feel

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like parties are so scared to give an inch that

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they're willing to just have no principles at all. I

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Speaker 3: So I saw my husband noted that Tim Kaine is

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standing fully behind am I getting his name right as

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Jay Jones.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, J Jones. I always have to look, okay.

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Speaker 3: Fully behind him. But do you remember when there was

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that guy running for governor of Virginia in twenty twelve,

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let's say, or something like that, twenty thirteen maybe, and

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he had said he'd referred to his tracker kaka yeah,

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and it became the Washington Post led a campaign to

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get him destroyed and he lost the race. Tim Kaine

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was said saying that word, which I don't even think

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like was a word that meant anything to anybody, was

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grounds for not being governor. But doing what Jay Jones

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has done, calling for the assassination of his political opponents

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and the murder of their children, is no big deal. Oh,

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in which we already explained he defended over and over again,

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But that's not all about him. Top law enforcement officer,

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he'd berated, and I think osted got someone ousted from

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a career law enforcement job for giving twenty five dollars

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to the completely exonerated Kyle Rittenhouse Legal fund al Rittenhouse

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was involved in trying to call the riots in Kenosha.

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He recently was ticketed going one hundred and seventeen miles

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per hour on a highway. And oh yeah, I mean,

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I'm sad to say not always adhering to all of

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our traffic laws. And I'm like, I don't think I've

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ever gone that fast. I mean, I know I've never

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gotten that fast, like in a car.

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Speaker 2: I would love to go that fast.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, wow, that's fast.

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Speaker 2: He got away, Yeah, and he got away with it

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on sixty four, which is which is a busy highway.

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And he got away with it at some community service

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Speaker 3: He did his two years of community service or his

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pack his own pack in violation of what the order

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of the court was. So this is going to be

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our top law enforcement officer. And for perspective, everybody should

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know that we are in a great historical aberration in

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Virginia where we have a Republican governor, Republican lieutenant governor,

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and Republican attorney general. That guy, Jason Maires, our Republican

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attorney general, who I think has done a pretty good

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job and is well liked, is running for reelection against

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this guy. But because of the year being what it is,

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it's a midterm ish election in a heavily blue state

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that has just gotten doged in everything, people are expecting

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just an absolute route by the Democrats in many ways,

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and so this isn't just a guy running for age.

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He's a guy expected to win as ag And I'm

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sure the Democrats looked at that and said, if we

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do the if we do the honorable thing of speaking

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against political violence in a meaningful way here, we could

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lose this race. And we don't want to lose it.

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But I'm sitting here thinking, like having an age in

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office who wants me and my children dead is legitimately

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terrifying to me.

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Speaker 2: Who breaks the law and gets away with it, I mean,

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this is like the last kind of This is just

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not a person that should be in that position.

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Speaker 3: He also said that if there were fewer what did

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you say something about how like police are responsible for

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most killings or something in there, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Or the excuse for him is that

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these are private conversations, but I'm sorry, private conversations tell

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us a lot about what kind of person you really are.

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The other day, someone was asking me some stuff about

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something that was controversial out there about other people, and

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asked me if I wanted to be off the record, like,

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why would I be off the record? You know, why

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do you why? I'm just going to tell you what

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I think about this stuff, And private conversations say a

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lot about people. I know that I've met politicians who

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seem to me who I thought were normal in their

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public persona, but I met them in real life and

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they were either very dumb or they were they seemed

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like not very nice people. And that happens a lot.

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So it's completely fair game. It's journalism to get your

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hands on these texts, to share them with people. It's

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not you know, it's not some text that that that

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you know, undermines his private life in some way. If

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he hasn't done anything wrong. This is clearly matters. It's

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about politics, and he, you know, any decent person would

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step down by the way, you know, it's on him.

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Speaker 3: So did you see that there was I think it

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was the is it Newport News or something? Like that.

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There was some Democrat committee, a local Democrat committee, that

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put out a letter saying, we need to vote for

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the guy who wants to kill his political opponents for

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the sake of democracy, and also said who among us

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has not done something like this? So let he who

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is without send cast the first stone. And I'm like,

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I've literally I can easily say I have literally never

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wished death upon my political opponents and the murder of

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their children. I can easily say that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, we're not sending him to prison. He's just

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not going to be ag if he doesn't run. You

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know what I'm saying. He's a lawyer. He's going to

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make money in the private sector. He doesn't have a

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god given right to be in government. Is he a lawyer?

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Speaker 3: Who he knows he is. But he claimed he had

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extensive trial experience for in order to win this race,

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and that turns out not to have been true. Shocking

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that a guy like this would lie.

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Speaker 2: But yes, you know, he's probably going to win. Abigail

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Spamberger is running for governor. She's probably gonna win. That

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woman doesn't have to answer a single question about her past.

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No one will ask her. She won't answer questions about

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her support, for instance, allowing men in young you know,

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in school bathrooms for instance, she simply will not answer

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any question about it. So that's how it goes.

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Speaker 5: Should property taxes just come to an end? The watchdod

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on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. Every day Chris

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helps unpack the connection between politics and the economy and

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how it affects your wallet.

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Speaker 4: Truly, owning your own home shouldn't be a piggybank for

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government to extract revenue. Property taxes will forever make you

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not an owner, just nothing more than a surf on

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the lord's manner. Whether it's happening in DC or down

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on Wall Street, it's affecting you financially.

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Speaker 2: Be informed.

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Speaker 5: Check out the watchdd on Wall Street podcast with Chris

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Speaker 3: All right, well, there's one more thing I wanted to

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just say about this open support for violence, because I

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was saying, I think one of the reasons why people

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the Democrat Party is standing so firmly behind this guy

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who wants everyone dead is that they more or less

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agreement with him that certain political opponents should be killed,

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and they keep on saying it so publicly. We're seeing

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open support on the left for violence publicly, and some

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people were really prescient about this when they started noticing

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it with well, I mean, you could say it's been

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going on for many years, but the Luigi Mangione killing

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of a healthcare executive, there was open celebration on the

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left of this open and some people were noting, like,

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this is a very bad sign for the country going forward.

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We of course saw the tens of thousands, if not

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hundreds of thousands or more, people celebrating the assassination of

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Charlie Kirk. I myself witnessed this on my own Facebook pages.

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You saw people doing it on Twitter and Blue Sky

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and New York Times, you know how they responded to it.

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And we also saw today is October eighth, that we're

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taping this. In October seventh was the two year anniversary

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of the horrific attack on Israeli citizens that took place

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and was tele you know, was shown on social media,

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which I can never get out of my head what

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that was like. And last night in New York City

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there was a parade with a big Palestinian flag to celebrate,

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to celebrate what happened there, the murder of what twelve

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hundred Jews, and it's just like they're openly being the

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way they're being, and a lot of people on the

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ride are like, I wonder what's going on. It's like, well,

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they're telling it us, so we shouldn't ignore it, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, let's talk about October seventh, just for

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a minute, if we could. Obviously, the day it happened,

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within while Israel was still fighting off remnants of the

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Palestinians that had invaded it, and before they had even

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identified the number of dead, there was a there were

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there was a march in Harvard, there was a protest

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in Times Square on the eighth with you know, genocidal

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signs like from the river scene so far celebrating it.

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thing is that that kind of view has been popularized

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since over the last two years hasn't receded. It's been popularized,

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and frankly it is on the left, but it's on

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the right to some extent as well. I wouldn't say

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to the same degree, of course, But you know, I

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wrote a column about this, and just on October seventh,

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I think there are two legacies of that event. The

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first legacy is that Israel is now more secure than

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ever despite what people, you know, ceasefire, now Palestine free Palestine,

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people might think Israel has secured itself in a much

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more peaceful position. It's decimated hum Us, it's decimated has Bullah,

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It's precipitated the fall of Asad in Syria. It's really

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embarrassed Iran with the help of the United States. It

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set back that nuclear program. Those are all you know,

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it's killed the Houti leaders, you know, like it's done

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a lot to cement itself. It's a nuclear power there. Yesterday,

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did some research. I was kind of surprised because Israel

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was once a socialist country and its economy was terrible

478
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until the nineties and now as a higher GDP per

479
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capita than Britain or Canada or France or any of

480
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,279
this country's while it's a small country, while it's being attacked,

481
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you know, by the world in some sense. But the

482
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,759
other legacy of it is that it just unleashed this

483
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,599
anti semitism around the world that we haven't seen. A

484
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,799
lot of ancient tropes are just like reconfigured because Israel's

485
00:27:51,799 --> 00:27:53,720
a democracy. It has to do whatever it needs to

486
00:27:53,759 --> 00:27:56,720
do to survive and to keep its citizens safe. We

487
00:27:56,759 --> 00:27:59,799
would demand the same thing of our government, and that's

488
00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:02,000
sometimes not going to be popular around the world. But

489
00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:06,480
in the end, Benjamin Ettaya, who has to decimate Hamas

490
00:28:06,599 --> 00:28:08,799
or the next day if he doesn't do that, if

491
00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:11,319
he lets it survive as a fighting force, the next day,

492
00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:13,559
his government will fall and that will be it. A

493
00:28:13,599 --> 00:28:15,720
new government will come in that will do it, and

494
00:28:15,759 --> 00:28:19,240
that's that, and we'll see what happens once this is over.

495
00:28:19,319 --> 00:28:24,599
I think hopefully this piece plan works. I'm skeptical that's

496
00:28:24,599 --> 00:28:27,000
going to work exactly right, but at least maybe we're

497
00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:30,000
in the right direction. And maybe once this recedes, the

498
00:28:30,079 --> 00:28:31,839
left will move on to its new you know, it's

499
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,039
next George Floyd or whatever, and things will change. But

500
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,599
we'll see anyway. That's my long monologue on October seven.

501
00:28:40,039 --> 00:28:42,359
Speaker 3: So, first of ample, I'm just to say that I

502
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,880
couldn't believe it had only been two years, because it

503
00:28:45,039 --> 00:28:47,119
just seems like the longest two years. You know how

504
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,720
as you age time moves more quickly, But there's something

505
00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:53,680
about the two years since then that have been so

506
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,960
full of things happening that it seems like it's been

507
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,519
a really long period of time, and I just can't.

508
00:29:01,599 --> 00:29:04,279
I just want to say again, I was in Grand

509
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,119
Rapids on the morning of October seventh and woke up

510
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:13,279
and just saw my social media feed flooding with images

511
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,079
that I really wish I had never seen, because I

512
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:21,160
find it very difficult to watch things like that. And

513
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,599
it was horrifying, I mean just absolutely horrifying. And I

514
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:31,000
know that people who support Hamas or the Palestinian cause

515
00:29:31,599 --> 00:29:38,359
would say that every single Israeli is a fighter in

516
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,200
their conflict, ye a colonizer and so forth of them,

517
00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:45,119
but I think we forget this was an attack on

518
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,079
a music festival, like young beautiful people at a music

519
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,759
festival and other surrounding areas, and the argument that these

520
00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:58,079
left wing Israelis were part of their battle is just

521
00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:06,880
I find it hard to take seriously. Now I do.

522
00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 4: Well.

523
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Speaker 3: I actually got a very very upset letter from last

524
00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:19,880
week because I don't oppose Israel on this battle. I

525
00:30:20,519 --> 00:30:23,640
genuinely hate the conflict that's happening there, the war that's

526
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,559
happening there, I hate it. I hate all the death.

527
00:30:25,599 --> 00:30:28,359
I don't think anyone can look at what's happening there

528
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,400
and not just feel horrific about everything that has happened

529
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,480
in the last two years. I mean on everything, Like

530
00:30:35,119 --> 00:30:38,000
I don't mean by that that you know, when Israel

531
00:30:38,119 --> 00:30:43,599
did their Operation Pager attack that yes that did cause

532
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,599
that was a violent attack, but it was really well

533
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,920
executed and really impressive from a military strategy point. But

534
00:30:51,079 --> 00:30:54,039
just the loss of life, the death the innocent civilians

535
00:30:54,039 --> 00:30:55,920
who are killed along with it, and you know, in

536
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,839
the Palestinian areas, it's really bad because the whole strategy

537
00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:05,480
that Hamas and other Palestinian political organizations have employed is

538
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,960
to very deliberately embed their military with their civilian population,

539
00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:13,759
which makes the whole idea is, well, if we put this,

540
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,759
we put these missiles in this school classroom, then they

541
00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:21,400
can't hit the rest of the school because they can't

542
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,960
hit us there because the rest of the school we

543
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,200
actually have students coming in here. Or if we put

544
00:31:25,319 --> 00:31:32,039
our operating you know, our head officials below a hospital,

545
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,799
they can't attack the hospital, even though that's where a

546
00:31:35,839 --> 00:31:38,880
military strike would naturally go. Like, it's the whole philosophy

547
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,759
of it, and it really works well. People are like,

548
00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:43,880
how dare you try to get these people below this

549
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:49,000
hospital or at this school. But nevertheless, if you were

550
00:31:49,079 --> 00:31:53,799
born and raised in Gaza, you don't have that much

551
00:31:53,839 --> 00:31:55,480
of a say in how these things go, and you

552
00:31:55,519 --> 00:31:58,279
don't have that much opportunity to get out also, and

553
00:31:58,359 --> 00:32:05,039
also nobody's taking you from a neighboring area. But I

554
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,279
do think that you should distinguish between people who openly

555
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,880
celebrate the slaughter of Jews wherever they may be, and

556
00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:17,480
people who disagree with Israel's approach to this war, or

557
00:32:17,559 --> 00:32:20,359
who disagree with the alliance that the United States has

558
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,359
with Israel, or who have just gotten fed up with

559
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,000
the political leadership of Israel, or you know what I mean.

560
00:32:26,039 --> 00:32:28,400
There's a difference there, and if you conflate those two,

561
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,720
it's a really good way to make problems worse, I

562
00:32:33,839 --> 00:32:34,720
think for Israel.

563
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:41,519
Speaker 2: Huh, Well, this was the largest massacre of Jews since

564
00:32:41,559 --> 00:32:43,880
the Holocaust, right, But in the long arc of history,

565
00:32:44,119 --> 00:32:46,640
if you read a book of world history and Jews,

566
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,240
you're going to see a lot of massacres like this

567
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,119
going on, not to this scale because people couldn't do it.

568
00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:54,920
The only thing that's changed is that there's no longer

569
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,759
cheap Jewish blood. Jews get to fight back, and that's

570
00:32:57,839 --> 00:33:00,839
what bothers a lot of people. And I'm sorry if

571
00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:03,759
a thousand, two hundred Americans were killed, and if we

572
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,440
scale it up, that's nine to eleven.

573
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 3: Right.

574
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Speaker 2: We don't let people just get away with it. You

575
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,920
don't let that force exist afterwards. And Israel doesn't have

576
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,200
to allow that to happen. And people are mad about it,

577
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,559
and Israel loses support, So be it. You got to

578
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:18,720
do it, You got to do I don't think that

579
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,480
we should be in conflict with the Israeli government. I

580
00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:25,079
think they're the ones fighting for Western values against Islamism.

581
00:33:25,359 --> 00:33:26,920
I think we should be on their side. If people

582
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,960
are against that, they should make that argument, not some

583
00:33:29,119 --> 00:33:32,519
dumb argument about APAK and Fifth columnists and all this stuff.

584
00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:35,920
APEC spends five hundred times less than Katar influencing America

585
00:33:36,279 --> 00:33:40,599
and American institutions. It's a weak organization. When they talk

586
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,720
about APAC like it has this control over people, it's

587
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,400
one of the weakest milk toast organizations ever. They try

588
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,160
to appease everyone. You know, we went off in a

589
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,960
different direction, if you know, if we want to talk

590
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,240
about that more, that's fine, but.

591
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,839
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's I think it's important, and I

592
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,640
am worried about some of like I've just like popping

593
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,480
into my feet. I saw a bunch of young college

594
00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:06,680
boys talking about a around a table, and I was like,

595
00:34:06,759 --> 00:34:09,880
oh my gosh, this is interesting stuff that you're seeing.

596
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:16,400
But to your point about Jews fighting back, I can't

597
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,679
remember who it was. It was a clip I saw

598
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,960
on I think CNBC or MSNBC of a guy just saying,

599
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,559
look at how many people died in Pearl Harbor. Look

600
00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:26,760
at how many people died at nine to eleven, And

601
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,239
so what nine to eleven was more than three thousand people.

602
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,599
We went to major war over that, and relative to

603
00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:37,159
a tiny country like Israel, that was a fraction of

604
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:38,119
the people that they lost.

605
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 2: Right, think about we dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan.

606
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,880
Hawaii wasn't even a state, right We fire bomb Dresden,

607
00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:50,000
We fire bomb Tokyo to beat the enemy so that

608
00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:51,760
we would no longer have to fight war. Why should

609
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,840
Israel when another entity starts a war? Why should Israel

610
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,599
lose its soldiers left and right to try to save

611
00:34:57,679 --> 00:35:00,079
the people who hate them. They're the only people on

612
00:35:00,159 --> 00:35:03,280
earth we have to feed their enemy, you know, like

613
00:35:03,559 --> 00:35:07,639
it is insane. And the faster, I'm sorry, the quicker

614
00:35:07,679 --> 00:35:10,039
this war would have been done if the Biden administration

615
00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:13,519
would have allowed it to happen. The quicker it was over,

616
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,679
the more lives would have been saved in Gaza. But

617
00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:18,639
they didn't let Israel do what they had to do,

618
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,519
and then they had to deal with Habala, which was

619
00:35:20,599 --> 00:35:24,440
flying rockets. Let me just tell you Hasbalah in Lebanon

620
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,679
fired a rocket that killed twelve Drew's children. It was

621
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,320
a remote control rocket. They did it on purpose, right.

622
00:35:31,519 --> 00:35:35,480
Iran fired missiles at Israel first, like it's in a

623
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,880
three four front war and we're busy here talking about

624
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,159
Apak and Palestinian states and all kinds of nonsense. It's

625
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,599
just cheap virtue signaling for people. Cheap virtue signal. Yeah,

626
00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:50,360
I do think that.

627
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 3: It is a I say this as someone who very

628
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,920
much supports Israel, and I'm getting the nasty emails as

629
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,199
a result of it. But it's also true that a

630
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,719
lot of Americans see their political leaders seem to care

631
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,639
more about Israel than people in their own country, and

632
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,280
they've gotten that feeling built up over a long period

633
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:11,920
of time.

634
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 2: And maybe the person who cares more about Israel than

635
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:15,400
their own country.

636
00:36:15,519 --> 00:36:18,079
Speaker 3: So what I've heard from people when they're complaining about

637
00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:20,039
it or when I'm fighting with them about it, is like,

638
00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:24,480
you know, Mike Johnson runs for speakers saying that they're

639
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,960
going to decrease foreign aid and ends up saying that

640
00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:30,480
God talked to him in a skiff to increase foreign

641
00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:34,079
aid to Ukraine and Israel, you know, And he where's

642
00:36:34,199 --> 00:36:37,920
Mike Johnson during many of the congressional breaks in Israel?

643
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,320
And people are like, well, we've got floods and chaos

644
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,400
and bad things happening in cities here. We would like

645
00:36:44,519 --> 00:36:47,920
him more touring our country than touring another country.

646
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 4: I am.

647
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,519
Speaker 3: I think there's a difference between that and saying I

648
00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:58,360
would like to see people in this country dead in

649
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,079
that country. There's a difference to be able to distinguish

650
00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:02,000
between those arguments.

651
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 2: And but but that's not the art that is fair,

652
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,760
you say, because if you think that's how the world works,

653
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,000
that if we give Israel three billion dollars a year

654
00:37:12,039 --> 00:37:15,440
that they spend on military equipment, that that's the same

655
00:37:15,559 --> 00:37:17,880
you know, that that's caring about Israel. Like I never

656
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,800
understood this, I could care about more than one thing.

657
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,199
I care about America first, I care about Israel second,

658
00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:26,039
and then everyone else is whatever, thousands of numbers down

659
00:37:26,119 --> 00:37:27,480
on my list. You know what I'm saying. I care

660
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,800
about Israel because I'm Jewish. I care about Israel because

661
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,119
I think it stands up for the West and I

662
00:37:32,159 --> 00:37:35,599
think it's a great ally. But my thing is, where

663
00:37:35,679 --> 00:37:38,480
is your anger over Egyptian aid? They get, they get mine.

664
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,519
Where's your anger over all the other aid we give

665
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:42,119
to everyone we give.

666
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 3: Though, David, is that you're allowed to say that you

667
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,519
don't like the aid going to other countries. But then

668
00:37:47,559 --> 00:37:49,000
the moment you say you don't like the aid going

669
00:37:49,079 --> 00:37:51,239
to Israel, that's when people are like, oh wait, you

670
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,519
can't say that, you know. And that's there's a distinction

671
00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:53,880
in the.

672
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,079
Speaker 2: Response, Molly, you can't say that. Literally. Everyone says that.

673
00:37:58,599 --> 00:37:59,880
The New York Times says.

674
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,199
Speaker 3: That, literally, you can't say it. I'm saying that when

675
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,320
you say it, people will accuse you of anti Semitism.

676
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 2: If you are obsessed with one country, if you are

677
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:14,760
obsessed with an organization here, that American organization with American

678
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,559
money that advocates for foreign policy that we have foreign policy,

679
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,440
and you treat people who are pro Israel's fifth columnists

680
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:29,159
like Tucker Carlson, Candae Owens, Mad Gates whoever. Then yeah,

681
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,079
I'm pretty suspicious about your motivations for sure, and I'm

682
00:38:33,079 --> 00:38:34,719
allowed to do that. Let me tell you another thing.

683
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:39,280
I've spent twenty years writing columns defending people from the

684
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,559
smear of anti Semitism. People can go back and read them.

685
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,639
You know, someone says something about Soros, and right away

686
00:38:46,639 --> 00:38:51,239
they're anti Semitics. Someone says this, everyone's super sensitive. I

687
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,880
am not being super sensitive about these people. They are on.

688
00:38:55,559 --> 00:38:58,519
They are trying to put a wedge between evangelicals and

689
00:38:58,599 --> 00:39:02,920
Jews and Israel, to put a wedge between I think

690
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,960
they're spreading anti Semitism and the people they put on.

691
00:39:06,119 --> 00:39:08,360
The way they talk. I don't know if they're being

692
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,639
paid or not. I don't buy Qatar or whatever. People

693
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:15,039
say to me, that's irrelevant, because you speak, your words matter.

694
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,079
I think it's a problem. I'm not saying it's the

695
00:39:18,119 --> 00:39:21,519
same thing, but it's pretty connected. I mean, gosh, the

696
00:39:21,559 --> 00:39:26,519
guy who has that show the Young Turks, right, I mean,

697
00:39:27,199 --> 00:39:29,719
he's an anti semi and he's on Tucker and they're

698
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,599
just laughing it up. By the way, the Young Turks,

699
00:39:33,039 --> 00:39:35,239
where the people who commit his show is named after

700
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,239
the people committed genocide against Armenians. No one cares about that,

701
00:39:38,519 --> 00:39:41,960
but whatever. So I'm all over the place. Now you've

702
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,519
got me all spun out.

703
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: That was a good loop back, because what we're talking

704
00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:50,159
about is this open embrace of violence on the left.

705
00:39:50,639 --> 00:39:53,320
And you know, like you just say, with the Young Turks, gee,

706
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,079
I wonder why they named their show that way. I

707
00:39:56,159 --> 00:39:58,639
think they're telling us exactly why they named the show

708
00:39:58,679 --> 00:40:01,360
that way, right. I don't know these people, and I

709
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,960
haven't talked to them personally, but I think we should

710
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,159
take it seriously. And I am also. I mean, that's

711
00:40:08,159 --> 00:40:10,679
what I was trying to distinguish between people who are

712
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,039
sick of Israel or don't want us stab in alliance

713
00:40:14,039 --> 00:40:16,920
with them, and people who actually honestly want Jews dead.

714
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:20,000
I think those people marching on Fifth Avenue or wherever

715
00:40:20,119 --> 00:40:23,119
they were in New York they want Jews dead. I

716
00:40:23,199 --> 00:40:25,639
think America or Israel they just want them dead.

717
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,119
Speaker 2: I agree. I don't think everyone's the same. I think

718
00:40:28,199 --> 00:40:32,880
Candice Owens wants Jews dead. That's what I think. Now

719
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,519
I can't prove that this is just my feeling and

720
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,000
you don't like it. I get it, But the I

721
00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:40,480
don't know what this is not Molly saying that, This

722
00:40:40,679 --> 00:40:44,760
is me saying that. But the thing is this, it's

723
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,840
not a real debate over a foreign policy. Now, I

724
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,760
get it. There are a lot of isolationist types and

725
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,480
I mean full blown isolationist types who don't like our

726
00:40:51,519 --> 00:40:54,199
relationship with Israel. Chucker Carlson says, for instance, that we

727
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,039
went to war in Iraq on Israel's behalf. Now that's

728
00:40:57,079 --> 00:41:01,559
a lie. Ariel Sharon told Bush not to invade, and

729
00:41:02,119 --> 00:41:07,440
Iraq Iran is the number one enemy of Israel. But

730
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:12,480
they just completely gloss over nine eleven. I mean, Tucker

731
00:41:12,599 --> 00:41:15,480
just had a show about how all these conspiracies about

732
00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:20,280
nine eleven. The bottom has fallen out because the government

733
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,639
lied to us about stuff, the FBI lies to us

734
00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:24,960
about stuff. There's law era about Donald Trump, and now

735
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,719
we have to go back to JFK and talk about

736
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,400
how most sod killed him, like people have lost their minds.

737
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:35,320
And it leads to this one place conspiracies about Jewish people.

738
00:41:35,639 --> 00:41:39,719
I'm sorry, it just does every time. These are just

739
00:41:40,039 --> 00:41:43,840
tropes that are refashioned for the modern times over Zionism

740
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,480
and so forth. That's just what I think. I feel

741
00:41:46,519 --> 00:41:48,119
it every day. I'm telling you, I get one hundred

742
00:41:48,119 --> 00:41:50,880
anti Semitic messages a day, if not much much more,

743
00:41:51,079 --> 00:41:53,519
you know, And it's I don't know if it's organic,

744
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,119
I don't know, but it is very worrisome I think

745
00:41:57,159 --> 00:41:58,760
for people. But the thing is, I don't want to

746
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,360
be I'm not a victim safe here. I love America,

747
00:42:02,039 --> 00:42:04,480
and Israel doesn't want to be a victim anymore. And

748
00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:07,400
that's the difference between Jews then before Israel and after Israel.

749
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,639
And I'm sorry people don't like it. I don't know

750
00:42:09,639 --> 00:42:11,320
if they have a good maybe ay any better pr

751
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,679
maybe they don't. I just don't really even care. I'm sorry,

752
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,239
all right, thank you for letting me event there probably

753
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,920
gonna get in trouble for that. Whatever, whatever, what do

754
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:22,639
we even talking about it?

755
00:42:22,639 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 4: You can?

756
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 3: I just say one more thing on the left wing

757
00:42:24,599 --> 00:42:30,760
violence situation. So last week this judge in DC gave

758
00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:34,119
a crazy slap on the wrist to the man who

759
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,920
tried to kill Justice Kavanaugh and his family using a

760
00:42:38,039 --> 00:42:42,199
map that the left had provided and to go to

761
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,079
to go outside his house, I mean, he was outside

762
00:42:44,119 --> 00:42:49,360
his house, and this left wing judge gave him a

763
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,039
slap on the wrist and said it was like so

764
00:42:52,199 --> 00:42:55,320
great that everything had happened because this man now claims

765
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,599
to be a woman, and that and that his family

766
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,719
was now accepting him as a woman, so that was

767
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,599
a good outcome from this assassination attempt. And then also

768
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:09,960
the judge said that because Trump might not let this

769
00:43:10,159 --> 00:43:14,440
man get taxpayer funded surgery and hormones to pretend to

770
00:43:14,519 --> 00:43:16,800
be a woman, that she was going to give him

771
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:22,360
a light sentence. And historically speaking, you know, there are

772
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:27,559
debates about how much deterrence works in sentencing, but historically speaking,

773
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,880
people who try to assassinate judges get crazy high sentences

774
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,280
because our whole rule of law system only works delicately

775
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,519
when judges are free to rule without political pressure or

776
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,599
threats of assassination. And so by giving him only eight years,

777
00:43:44,639 --> 00:43:47,039
which is what he asked for, and not the thirty

778
00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:50,760
years that the Department of Justice asked for, it's a

779
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:55,199
total green light to these other assassins. To know that

780
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,480
if you try to kill a conservative justice, you could

781
00:43:59,519 --> 00:44:02,400
be out of prison in a shorter time period than

782
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,239
the people who participated in the deal in the January

783
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:11,360
sixth riots were sentenced to And sure enough, we had

784
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,840
another situation happen outside the Red Mass on Sunday. So

785
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,679
the Red Mass is the term given to a special

786
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,719
mass for federal judges and Supreme Court justices ahead of

787
00:44:24,679 --> 00:44:28,039
their term, so their term starts in October each year,

788
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,280
and historically speaking, quite a few justices have attended. They

789
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,400
knew that there were security threats, so they did not

790
00:44:34,559 --> 00:44:40,519
attend this one. But a man was arrested with you like,

791
00:44:40,639 --> 00:44:45,960
a very lengthy screed against conservatives, pro lifers, the Roman

792
00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:50,480
Catholic Church, Jews, and maybe there was another group in there.

793
00:44:51,159 --> 00:44:54,400
And he had literally two hundred explosive devices and had

794
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,920
traveled I think from California. So it's just breaking out

795
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:04,079
into the open and it's a major issue, and unfortunately

796
00:45:04,159 --> 00:45:08,039
the country is not uniting against left wing terrorism. You

797
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,719
have a political party more or less standing with the

798
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,280
people who are committing the left wing terrorism.

799
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, even if you know sentencing wasn't you know,

800
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,119
long sentences weren't a deterrence. I want to punish people

801
00:45:23,159 --> 00:45:26,480
who try to kill Supreme Court justices. It's a punishment.

802
00:45:27,039 --> 00:45:31,159
And yeah, left wing violence. I mean they have given

803
00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:35,159
the green light to this kind of stuff with their

804
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:41,800
listen since the sixties, I'm sorry, since the early twentieth century,

805
00:45:42,039 --> 00:45:46,360
most political violence, explicitly political violence has been left wing people.

806
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,760
Get can give me any kind of chart they want

807
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,760
from the ADL. It doesn't mean anything to me. The communists,

808
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:57,599
the anarchists. A communist kill JFK, an anarchist left winger

809
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:02,239
killed McKinley, Like it goes back, a Palestinian killed RFK.

810
00:46:02,519 --> 00:46:04,920
I'm not saying it's like we've said, it's not a monopoly,

811
00:46:05,039 --> 00:46:07,039
but it's clear that the left wing is more comfortable

812
00:46:07,079 --> 00:46:11,199
with violence, and TIFA is more comfortable with violence. It's

813
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:15,199
named after Stalinist group. I mean, why are we even pretending?

814
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,079
Here's my question to you, though, what do we do?

815
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,599
What can you do about this? Is it a cultural answer?

816
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,880
Is there some kind of government answer? People keep saying

817
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,960
do something about it to the government, But I don't

818
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,639
know what you can really do preemptively to stop people

819
00:46:30,119 --> 00:46:32,519
from engaging this in this kind of violence, other than

820
00:46:32,679 --> 00:46:35,960
kind of zeroing in on antifunds and so forth.

821
00:46:36,199 --> 00:46:38,119
Speaker 3: I was just thinking about this on the plane ride

822
00:46:38,199 --> 00:46:40,679
home last night. It is absolutely true that you must

823
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,280
use the power of the state to crack down on

824
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,119
left wing terrorism. There terror networks should be investigated their

825
00:46:48,199 --> 00:46:50,400
financial streams like all of that, and they should be

826
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,079
charged and prosecuted for the terrorism that they're doing or

827
00:46:54,199 --> 00:46:57,920
plotting or you know, all of it. But it's also

828
00:46:58,039 --> 00:47:00,960
true that that will not restore the country tree to

829
00:47:01,039 --> 00:47:03,639
where it needs to be. I mean, the beauty of

830
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,519
where we are, of who we are as a people,

831
00:47:05,639 --> 00:47:08,400
is that we were founded with an understanding that humans

832
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,199
are sinful and that we need to have checks on

833
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:19,559
our own sinful behavior, that we you know, that we

834
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,800
need to have, that we need to believe in higher

835
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,159
things and show love to one another. I mean, there

836
00:47:26,199 --> 00:47:28,719
were all these things that were present at our founding

837
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,519
that we have systematically eradicated a love of our country

838
00:47:32,559 --> 00:47:36,199
and our founding as we throughout the you know, the

839
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,480
stains of bad things we did, we throughout all the

840
00:47:38,519 --> 00:47:42,400
good stuff as well. And so if we if we

841
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:47,039
don't understand the greater importance of religion to politics, we

842
00:47:47,079 --> 00:47:49,719
will never be restored as a country. And so I

843
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:55,840
pray more for that that people will return to God, repent, believe,

844
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:01,360
love one another more than I pray for justice for

845
00:48:02,639 --> 00:48:05,320
left wing terrorism, but I pray for both, you know,

846
00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:06,880
both things I hope happened.

847
00:48:08,519 --> 00:48:11,519
Speaker 2: It's it's a scary time in that way, and it

848
00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:15,480
really shouldn't be this way because things we are not

849
00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:17,519
suffering in the way a lot of people have suffered

850
00:48:17,559 --> 00:48:20,400
in the past. You know, there's no big economic collapse

851
00:48:20,679 --> 00:48:23,320
or anything. We shouldn't be this angry with each other.

852
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,760
It should be we should be able to work this out.

853
00:48:27,039 --> 00:48:30,880
Sense so puerile. But anyway, I don't even know what

854
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,440
we were going to talk about next month.

855
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 3: Maybe we should just move to culture now.

856
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got me. You're anting on something.

857
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 3: I wanted you to talk about it, but instead I'll

858
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,440
just direct people to read your excellent piece on Obamacare.

859
00:48:43,639 --> 00:48:46,760
One of the nice things about us not being young

860
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,920
whipper snapper journalists is that we have memories that extend

861
00:48:50,039 --> 00:48:53,960
beyond the last ten years, and having been in the

862
00:48:54,039 --> 00:48:58,039
trenches of covering Obamacare, David wrote an excellent piece on

863
00:49:00,119 --> 00:49:03,079
you know what's happening there? With all the lies that

864
00:49:03,119 --> 00:49:05,360
we were told about it and how they have borne out.

865
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:10,079
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. I think it's important to remember that.

866
00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:13,079
Did you see the Washington Post editorial that said, yes,

867
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,159
a wildcare has never been affordable?

868
00:49:15,679 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 3: Turned out it was wrongly named. Oh really, it's known.

869
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, just a quick note on it. This shutdown is

870
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,280
over the extension of sunsetting subsidies of Obamacare that were

871
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,199
past during COVID. I just want to reiterate this that

872
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:34,800
were sold as temporary to help people get over that economy,

873
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,840
the marketplace that Obama promised us was going to be

874
00:49:39,039 --> 00:49:43,480
vibrant and competitive and bring back lower prices. Now, citizens

875
00:49:43,559 --> 00:49:46,440
pay ninety percent of the premiums for people involved in

876
00:49:46,519 --> 00:49:49,440
that marketplace. So when they say people are losing their insurance,

877
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,719
they mean that tax payers will only pay eighty percent

878
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,880
of those premiums. Listen, you want to expand the welfare state,

879
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,440
I would do it like this is everyone's like, why

880
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,519
don't you have a plan? But I do expand welfare

881
00:50:02,679 --> 00:50:04,840
to whatever you think is right and let everyone do

882
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,840
whatever they want. Open up the markets, let people find

883
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,079
the insurance they want, let them buy the things they want.

884
00:50:11,159 --> 00:50:13,239
We don't have a plan for supermarkets. We don't have

885
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:17,920
a plan for auto insurance and national plan. My voice

886
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,760
is a higher octave because you've gotten the all spun

887
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,559
out of that stuff, you know what I'm saying? And

888
00:50:22,639 --> 00:50:25,280
then I get all worked up. So let's talk about culture.

889
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 4: Right?

890
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 2: Should I start? Do you want to start?

891
00:50:32,119 --> 00:50:32,159
Speaker 4: Go?

892
00:50:33,079 --> 00:50:34,559
Speaker 3: Actually, I have a story that I meant to tell

893
00:50:34,599 --> 00:50:37,119
last week. Yeah, I forgot, So I told you. I

894
00:50:37,199 --> 00:50:40,639
was at that wedding in Nashville and the mother of

895
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,400
the groom comes up to me and she was like, oh,

896
00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:47,199
I have to tell you. She said, I sometimes have

897
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,760
trouble sleeping, and I'll listen to podcasts as I'm going

898
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,159
to sleep, and you and David both have nice low voices.

899
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,480
She actually said that. And so if she just finds

900
00:50:57,519 --> 00:51:01,639
it soothing to listen to us, and then if she

901
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,760
falls asleep, she'll just like go back and listen to

902
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,840
it when she's awake.

903
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,159
Speaker 2: We help people fall asleep. It's nice.

904
00:51:08,159 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 3: It's like she's like, so, I'm at church and the

905
00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:16,639
row in front of her stands up to go get communion,

906
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,760
and she realizes she's about to go up to get

907
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,440
communion as well, and all of a sudden, our voices

908
00:51:22,519 --> 00:51:26,679
start coming out of her purse, and she's got her

909
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,800
phone and She's like trying to figure out how to

910
00:51:30,119 --> 00:51:34,599
stop it, but it just keeps going and she's like

911
00:51:34,679 --> 00:51:39,719
freaking out about it. And then she wakes up and

912
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,960
realizes that the church scene was all happening in a

913
00:51:43,039 --> 00:51:46,320
dream and a nightmare. She emphasized this was a nightmare.

914
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,159
It was horrib like she was so mortified by it.

915
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,719
So I just like that people are using us in

916
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:52,840
their dreams slash night.

917
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 2: We've infiltrated their dreams. Incredible. Uh Okay. I watched the

918
00:51:59,519 --> 00:52:02,519
movie souit Superman The New Superman. Did you go see that?

919
00:52:03,679 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 4: No?

920
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,039
Speaker 2: No, I heard good things from a lot of people.

921
00:52:08,159 --> 00:52:12,280
I thought it was just immense garbage, just really terrible.

922
00:52:12,599 --> 00:52:14,840
I don't know why people like it. I'm not trying

923
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,440
to be contrariant here. I just do not get it.

924
00:52:18,559 --> 00:52:24,199
It like it has a very immature, kind of, you know,

925
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,719
goofy component, which I didn't mind so much, but then

926
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,960
it has like a serious component. It just seemed really

927
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,920
out of like both seemed out of sync. I just,

928
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,079
you know, I didn't like it. It just I don't know.

929
00:52:37,199 --> 00:52:39,000
I just thought it was a kind of a mess,

930
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:44,239
an expensive looking mess play Superman Guy's name is David

931
00:52:44,559 --> 00:52:48,159
corn Sweat. I've never heard of him. He's fine, Like,

932
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,599
you know, he's fine. He's he looks like Superman. And

933
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,079
it kind of plays on the on the tropes of

934
00:52:54,159 --> 00:52:57,519
superhero tropes, like putting on your glasses and no one

935
00:52:57,599 --> 00:53:00,480
recognizes you. It's Clark Kennon Superman like. It plays on

936
00:53:00,599 --> 00:53:02,920
that stuff, and that's fine, but just overall, the story

937
00:53:03,039 --> 00:53:06,079
was so ridiculous. It seemed almost like a movie that

938
00:53:06,199 --> 00:53:08,920
was setting up a bunch of other superheroes to have

939
00:53:09,039 --> 00:53:11,800
their own movies and all this suff I am not

940
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,760
a Superman fan in general as far as comic books go.

941
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,400
I never have been, because I think he has just

942
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,800
way too many powers, does that make sense. I like

943
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,159
Batman because he is a person who did it himself.

944
00:53:23,199 --> 00:53:26,079
He invents the stuff, you know whatever. Superman can't really

945
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,679
ever be beat, so I've always found it kind of boring.

946
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,639
Though I did like the Christopher Reeve movie Reeve movies

947
00:53:33,679 --> 00:53:35,719
growing up. I don't know, Yeah, they were nice, they

948
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,280
were fun, but anyway, so that's my review of that.

949
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,800
The second thing I had was I watched an old show.

950
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,360
It's twenty years old. I've seen it before. It's an

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HBO show called Rome. Have you ever watched this?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: What is that about? Is it about Rome?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about Julius Caesar traversing the Rubicon and coming

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back to Rome and all of that. I think it's

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one of my favorite shows. I mean, it's got to

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be up there. It's one of my favorite shows. Ever,

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it is not for the kids. It is not for

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the kids. I like it a lot. And if people

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can get over some of the sexual and content I think,

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which I I just I don't know why it's in

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there to such an extent. It kind of it's whatever.

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But if you can get over that, it's a good show.

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John Milius is the creator. Yeah, he's the creator of it.

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Who's you know read Dawn and Conan the Barbarian and

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so on. Anyway, that's what I have.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I am racking my brain, and I'm pretty sure

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that since we last talked, I have not seen anything

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cultural or listened to anything Like. I listened to podcasts

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on my flights. Those are good. I'm I have like

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a weird variety. I like to listen to issues, et cetera.

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I also like to listen to the Dana Carvey, David

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Spade comedy podcast.

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Speaker 2: I've not heard that one.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty funny and they're enjoyable. They actually cracked me

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up because they were going to talk about the Jimmy

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Kimmel situation. They were like, don't worry, we're going to

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talk about the Jimmy Kimmel situation. Then when they talked

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about it, I think they devoted all of like forty

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five seconds to it, and they were like, yeah, so

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he's a friend, and I guess it all got resolved.

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So anyway, I was on a plane this week and

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I was like, Okay, you talked about.

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Speaker 2: It, but I'm a Dana Carvey fan. He's funny.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, me too. I mentioned that I went out to

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Phoenix to host the Charlie Kirk Show with Andrew Colevett

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and Blake Knaff and Sean Davis, and that was a

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lot of fun. It was really cool to be out

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there and just also talk to people who loved and

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knew Charlie. So it's kind of part of the recovery,

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the grieving period, but it was fun to be on there,

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and it's just also fun to have a totally different audience,

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which in the case of the Charlie Kirks show seems

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to be very young people and not so young people.

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Speaker 2: No middle aged people, just the young people and old people.

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I wonder what our audience is, Probably young, young, middle class, and.

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Speaker 3: I think they're all very handsome and beautiful, smart.

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Speaker 2: Well smart, smart for sure. Smart. Accept the angry emailers

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towards me. There, that is bright, that's great. If you'd

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like to email the show, please do so at radio

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at the Federalist dot com. We'll be back next week.

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I hope you will be too. Until then, be lovers

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of freedom and anxious for the fray