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smartphone or tablet, And again, thank you so much for

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your support. Last hour, we talked about leftist violence, how

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it is escalating, and how the Democrats and the liberals

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inside the Democrat Party are unable and unwilling to simply

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call it out for what it is, to say it

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is unacceptable, and to end their statement at that. They

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cannot do it. I believe it is indicative of an

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underlying belief that actually violence is okay when we do it.

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Sometimes it's the language of the oppressed or something. Remember

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like we all saw what happened in Trump's first term,

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whether there was the BLM riots or it was the

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vandalism and the attacks and the fire bombings of cars

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in DC at the inauguration. It started immediately right. The

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left cannot handle being out of control. This is a symptom.

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It's a symptom of something else larger in the society.

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Here's another example of it. Played in the last hour,

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a clip of Charlie Cook, National Review writer and Meghan

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Kelly played a clip from former vice presidential candidate Tim

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Walls appearing on the podcast hosted by California Governor Gavin Newsom.

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Speaker 2: You got to respect people you disagree with, even you

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can't just dismiss that's Gavin Well this most of their

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ass I do that.

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Speaker 1: I know if you wrong, but.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if we're going to fall into that

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place where we want to Okay, we challenge you to

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a do you know, a wwe fight here type of thing.

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Speaker 2: It is, it's a natural reaction. I think it's one

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of the reasons we're losing so many men. And again

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it's multi ethnic. It's not just white men we're losing them.

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We're losing them to these guys online. That's why these

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are bad guys though. These are the guys. But they exist,

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and we could deny the exist. They exist. Not only

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they exist, they persist, and they're actually influencing young kids

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every single way.

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Speaker 1: Some of those guys back under a Rock.

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Speaker 2: I think we have to first understand what their motivations are.

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I think we have to understand what they're actually doing.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think that's a racism and misogyny. Okay.

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So that's Tim Walls, the standard bearer, the vice president

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of candidate, the guy who supposed to be the avatar

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for masculinity, for what a real man was. He was

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gonna win over men in rural areas. Remember that was

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the whole thing, and then they launched this whole thing

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like oh jd Vance is weird and everybody's like, wait,

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you're weird. So that's Tim Walls. Notice what he says

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at the very beginning there. He talks about there because

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Newsom is trying to get him to discuss why the

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Democrats are not doing well with men, and they're not.

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They've lost across all the demographic cohorts for men. They're

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losing more and more male support. And Newsom is at

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least trying to figure out, what do we need to

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do differently to try to win some of these dudes back?

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And Tim Wall says I could probably kick their butts.

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He didn't say butts, right, Wouldn't that be toxic masculinity.

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Here's Charlie Cook's response. I thought he brilliantly gutted Waltz

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in his schizophrenic rhetoric. Here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it will never cease to be weird that having

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put together a ticket that consisted of Kamala Harris and

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Tim Walls, the Democrats went on a two week offensive

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where they described verbatim jd Vance as being weird. Tim

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Walls is one of the most weird people I've ever

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seen in politics. I've lived in two countries, I've spent

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some time in a third, France, which is well known

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for having strange politicians, and Tim Walls may well take

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the cake. He also can't decide there, which I think

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is genuinely interesting whether or not he wishes to condemn

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what he sees as toxic masculine men or emulate them.

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It's an odd thing to do to say we need

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to put them under the rock. They're bad people. Those

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sort of men have no place effectively in our politics.

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But to start the segment saying I'm going to kick

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their ass, because the vast majority of the people he's

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talking about.

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Speaker 1: Would not say that. Now, if you threaten.

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Speaker 4: Their girlfriend, they'll tell you. They'll kick your ass. But

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they wouldn't start with that, it wouldn't be the opening gambit.

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So he seems somewhat confused as to whether he wants

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to eradicate them or to become them.

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Speaker 1: Right, this is the problem the Democrats have. They want

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to talk tough, but they are also condemning the very

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thing that they are themselves doing.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: Later on in that podcast with Newsom and Walls, Newsom

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said that the Democrats have to work on not conflating

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masculinity with toxicity. They're not the same things, and Walls

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replies to him, I think I scare them a little

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bit because I can fix a truck. Once again, this

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is like he's he's trying to intimidate or to flex

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at conservative dudes or something. I can beat you up,

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I can fix your truck. I can fix my truck.

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And that's what that's what they're really scared of. Right,

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So he's a tough guy, but also tough guys suck, right, Like, dude,

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make up your mind here, okay, make up your mind.

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This is the same double standard applied with the violence.

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It's the same thing comes from the same place. Let

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me go over to the phones and get a couple

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of calls on before the break, We go to Ed first. Hello, Ed,

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welcome to the program.

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Speaker 3: Yeah today, Hey, I'm good.

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Thank you? All right? Thank you? You will be response

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to you about Elon Musk and the violence that haspening

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me cancer the vehicles. Yeah, and you talked about where

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people are not happy for this division, they resort to violence,

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and that's just American as we know. First of all,

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Elon Musk is not an elected officiate.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Excuse me, that doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about decisions on American policy.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: No, so, Ed, is it or is it not acceptable

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to fire bomb car dealership?

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Speaker 3: Right? It's totally wrong. Okay, Okay. The next thing is

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the ku Klux Klan, one of the most violent in

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America that still exists. And I don't hear anybody say

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anything about their violence.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Do you need me to tell you that

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the clan sucks too? I'm happy to tell you that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Please, I need to hear you say that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just did I know it is a difference. Hang

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on there, it is a default position among I would

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submit probably north of ninety percent, probably ninety nine percent

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of Americans that the Klan is terrible, that nobody wants

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to be a part of the plan. That's a default position.

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That is not a default position on political violence.

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Speaker 3: Though. So when the Klan did their violence against people,

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because the decision was made at their weren't happy with,

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I didn't see an outrage going against them. They still existed.

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Speaker 1: To me talking about why do you you know the

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Notre Dame basket of the school, the Notre Dame College,

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right they they're called the fighting Irish, right you know why?

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Speaker 3: I have no idea?

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Speaker 1: Okay, because the Irish took up arms against the Klan

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when they showed up in their town. Okay, So the

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idea that the Klan was never pushed back on is

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not true. They were.

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Speaker 3: And that's great, and I'm glad I just learned something new, Toy.

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But I'm talking about gentlemen like yourself talk radio in

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our American government not pushed back against an organization that's

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been around for years and continues to be around for

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years that was violent violin based I.

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Speaker 1: What do you want? What do you want people like

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me and people in the government, what do you want

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them to say? Specifically?

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Speaker 3: Well, we got. We first have to understand that a

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country is violent. So we don't like a decision, what

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do we do? We resort to violence. That's America. So

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it's only going to happen that people are going to

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start doing it against our government because they're not happy

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with a decision. And what's happening in Elon Musk and

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Tesla is totally wrong. When you mentioned I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: But but yeah, what's the butt Also when you do

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violence against our capital and then it is see this

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is my problem, ed, This is the problem is that

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you can't just say that the violence is unacceptable, end

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of sentence. You're trying to conflate it and equate it

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and play this what about January sixth game? And it

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doesn't matter because I have said it. No, because I

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have said it. I have said that about the January

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sixth riot from the get go, from the day it happened.

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So what exactly do you want? What is it you're

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demanding in order to just simply say call out the

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lefties for attacking the dealerships and that's it, and then

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we just agree that that's it, that's unacceptable. Why why

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do you have the need to then try to ask

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me about the Klan, asked me about Jay six, asking

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me about these other things. You're trying to deflect away

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from this thing because it sounds like.

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Speaker 3: Said again, what they're doing with Tesler is wrong. That's violence.

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But that's what we know that I reread than us

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when we're not happy with a decision.

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Speaker 1: That's not true. That's not true. No, that's not true.

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Speaker 3: I just gave you to examples.

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Speaker 1: Of January sixth. So, okay, so you said anytime we

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don't like something the government does.

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Speaker 3: It's not any time. Okay, Well, that's what you say,

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and we know that sometime we roll with it and

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sometime we don't.

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Speaker 1: America, so the pro yes and the vast majority of

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the time the people roll with it. You know how

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long pro life activists wanted Roe v. Wade overturned. Fifty

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something years. They protested that fifty years, and they worked

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their way through the courts in order to get it done.

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That's so. So it's not always yes.

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Speaker 3: It does. Some some things do take a long time.

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Speaker 1: About all the riots after Obamacare, any riots after Obamacare

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got pushed down on us? No, No, there were no.

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There were tea party protests, there were demonstrations. There were

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no riots, there was no violence. People didn't fire bomb

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the you know, the Department of Health and Human Services.

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People didn't do that.

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Speaker 3: Well, they fire bombs a lot of bushing clinics and

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things of that nature.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Eric Robert Rual did.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, also right, you have a lot of violence

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that goes on in America. We can't pick and choose

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where we're not happy about a party that doesn't get

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their way. They decision.

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Speaker 1: I agree, that's and that's what I've been saying, is

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you don't get to commit the political violence.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: The difference is the difference is is that when it

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happens with J six, we get all of the people

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on the left coming forward and you know, round them

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all up through everybody in jail. They're all guilty. Right.

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There's this mass push through the institutions, through the media

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to tell us that this is wrong and that's it,

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and they demand that we disavowed. They demand that we say,

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just as you just did to me, that I am

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on your side. And with this, with this, we get

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jokes and we get people up there excusing it. Well,

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you know, people are upset about these decisions. I don't

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care if you're upset about the decision, that doesn't matter

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to me, because it doesn't because it didn't matter to

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me on any of the other decisions that it went

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the opposite way. You don't have people bombing courthouses right

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now because of all of the temporary restraining orders that

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are being issued against the Trump administration. You don't see

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violence up there right exactly, right, So let ith yeah, no,

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go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: No. I was just saying that in America we have

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Republican and Democrats, all right, we just have to stop

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and then make when something is wrong for the parties,

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and that's what's corrupting our American government that Democrats can

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admit when something is wrong and Republicans will not admit

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when something is wrong, like pardoning January sixth people that

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did things against our law enforcement people.

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Speaker 5: That's wrong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't agree with the parties for the violent offenders.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, but again, totally wrong. But we have to admit

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that Republicans won't admit it that it was wrong. That

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was wrong, Bill and violence when they start fire bombing

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and burning cars, that is wrong. The protests, the peaceful protests,

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because what happened to the individuals by the police are good.

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But once you invoke violence, burning this and looting and

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all that, we have to say it is wrong. In

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our American government, we would sit up there and make

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excuses and give it a million reasons why something is wrong.

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But we're going to keep telling.

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Speaker 1: You how right, all right, and I gotta run. I

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appreciate the call.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, man'na keep listening.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Yeah, yeah, No, it's fair. I agree

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with you that all of the violence, all political violence,

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is to be shunned. I completely agree, is to be disavowed.

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video dot com. Let's bring on Brian, no pressure. Welcome

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to the show, Brian.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, how you doing it there?

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Speaker 1: I'm well, how are you right?

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Speaker 5: Pretty good?

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Speaker 3: Pretty good?

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Speaker 5: You know, I was listening to the last caller a

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couple of minutes ago, and listen you talking about America.

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Speaker 1: And balance, right, I mean generally, I guess sure.

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Speaker 5: Right, right? America is the most violent country in the world.

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I mean, that's how America gains its power is through violence. Okay,

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So why would you think that it would be such

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a I guess, a out of character thing for that

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to be taking place within these boundaries, within these borders.

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Speaker 1: Did I say that it's out of character at any point?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 5: That's the way you described it.

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Speaker 1: No, I said, no, I said it should be No,

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I said, I said people should not accept Brian, Brian,

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I said people should not accept political violence.

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Speaker 5: People shouldn't accept political viole. How do you think America

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got his power?

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Speaker 1: Should we accept political violence?

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Speaker 5: Brian, Yes, we should.

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Speaker 1: There you go. Thank you very much. I appreciate the call, Brian,

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proving my point.

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Speaker 5: I do not.

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Speaker 1: I do not accept political violence. I reject the idea

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that we should do. You have a different opinion. And

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this is what my premise has been, is that people

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on the left, such as yourself, Brian, you're okay with

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political violence. You're okay with it. I am not. That's

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position himself as a reasonable option for a presidential run,

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he really needs to stop having fellow Democrats like Tim

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Waltz on who can't hold back the crazy. I don't know.

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Maybe he looks better by comparison, Maybe that's the play,

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or maybe he just wants to be a podcaster after

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he's done being governor. I don't know. Jeff says, I

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wonder how all of these fools would feel if all

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of us with the guns acted the same way towards them. Yeah. Now,

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so again, this is the rise in the political violence

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we are seeing is a symptom. It's a symptom of

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a larger phenomenon. I'm gonna explain this or the theory

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behind this, but first New York Times they send out

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their morning updates or whatever. And in Wisconsin, where Democrats

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have turned Elon Musk, the billionaire, into the main villain

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in a high stakes Supreme Court race, turns out it

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sounds a little crude. Governor Tim Wall's Democrat of Minnesota

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was an uh claire for a town I think that's

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how they pronounced that, for a town hall style event

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intended to rive up Democrats about the race, which could

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determine the ideological balance of the state's top court. Groups

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backed by Musk have poured millions of dollars into the

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race on behalf of the conservative candidate Brad Schimmel. Democrats

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are now framing the contest as the people versus Musk,

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see because he's a criminal, get it. Wolves began is

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on stage appearance by saying that name calling does not work,

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and then he called Musk a dipstick, but he didn't

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say stick, because that's how you appeal to the rural voters, Right,

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that's what the Democrat party chair in North care Or

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Alina says, or seems to think she's gonna win back

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all those all those rural Republican voters y'all by saying

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y'all and cussin. Right, That's that's the strategy. Apparently, don't

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blame me for the strategy if you think it's a

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terrible strategy. Later on, he called Elon Musk an unelected

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South African nepo baby, which is a nepotism baby. So

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in other words, he didn't make any of the money himself.

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He didn't earn it himself, which is that's like so

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divorced from reality. But and the crowd roared in approval

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when it called him an unelected South African because Musk

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was in fact born in South Africa. But he has

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been a US citizen for more than two decades, so

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he's an immigrant. So now we're gonna what send everybody back,

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all the immigrants back or something. Representative Idea Vallesquez of

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New York said Musk should quote go back to South Africa,

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and then at a different protest, representative Don Bayer of

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Virginia said, We're gonna send Elon back to South Africa. Okay,

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So let me get this straight. We're gonna deport Elon Musk,

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but not Trendy Arragua. Okay. That's how that's the position

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the Democrats are taking here. Also, this immigration stuff, it

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ties into the phenomena that I just mentioned that we're

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also with the rise of political violence. They go hand

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in hand, and I will explain this in the third hour.

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I will explain it, but I'm laying the foundation here.

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This from ICE, the office out of Atlanta, which has

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jurisdictional control over the Charlotte area. We are in the

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Atlanta region. They put out a press statement saying that

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ICE apprehended twenty four legal aliens in Charlotte during an

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enhanced targeted enforcement operation. This operation ran from March first

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through March eighth, So for one week they made twenty

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four arrests. The people they picked up had the following

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charges thirteen aggravated felonies or other violent offenses, three illegal

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firearms or weapons offenses, two were MS, thirteen gang member affiliates,

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one for assault on a federal officer, five for property crimes,

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and eleven on DWI charges. Of these criminal aliens, the

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twenty four that were picked up, six of them had

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active immigration detainers, which the Mecklenburg County Sheriff's Office, under

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the leadership of Gary not my fault McFadden, refused to honor.

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So six of these people were back out on the

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streets because our sheriff refused used to give a heads

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up to ICE when they had them in the jail

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and they were about to be let go. The detainer

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requests specifically, I've gone over this many times. The detainer

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request specifically asks for a call to ICE from the

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sheriff within forty eight hours of an impending release of

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an illegal alien that had the detainer request on them.

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And McFadden does not believe he needs to follow this law.

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Speaker 5: This is.

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Speaker 1: This ignoring of the law. This is essentially a nullification play.

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That's what he's doing. Nullification that's going to become important

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in the third hour. Nullification. It's one of the key aspects.

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Also along with the political violence increasing the idea of nullification.

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ICE has been unable to locate eighteen additional targeted aliens

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who are still at large, who also had detainers that

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were not honored. So because of the nullification practices of

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our sheriff Gary not my fault, McFadden. Not only do

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we see the state legislature looking to close a loophole

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that he is exploiting in order to advance his nullification policy,

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which I still think we should call it Gary's law,

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we also have eighteen people that had detainers on them

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that were released back out onto the street, and God

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only knows what charges those guys had. They remain at large.

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They pose a potential danger to the community. ICE says

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these aliens could have been safely and deficiently transferred into

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ICE custody if their detainers had been honored. Right, because

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it occurs at the jail. You already have the person

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in custody, you've got them in handcuffs, and you could

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just have them, you know, do the paperwork. And you

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just transfer them right over and send them to a

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different facility. But because our sheriff refuses to honor the

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detainers and refuses to cooperate with ICE by telling them, hey,

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we're about to let this guy out come get him.

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He posted bail, he's leaving in forty eight hours. And

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because our sheriff refuses to do that, because he doesn't believe,

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according to his own statement that he put out. His

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own press shop put out a statement saying deportation is

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not the solution. He disagrees with deportation, and that's why

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we are where we are. And then there's this bit

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of news Charlotte Ledger reporting armed security is coming to

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Uptown Parks. Armed security. All right, if you're listening to

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Speaker 6: Hello, Bruce, hey p, thanks for taking the call.

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Speaker 5: Sure.

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Speaker 6: I agree with most everything you say. I just have

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one exception today with I don't like the comparison of

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J six defenders being in the same basket as those

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people who are burning tailts of cars and burning down

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charging stations and committing the acts of violence they do.

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I believe most of the J six defenders, most of

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them did not commit any act of.

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Speaker 1: Violence, right, I didn't lump them all together. Okay, No,

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I specifically said the violent offenders on J six, the

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J six okay, yeah, the violence anybody. Yeah, yeah, because

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there are people that walked in and did nothing. There

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are people that that did absolutely no violence whatsoever. They

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were invited into the capitol. I agree. But then there

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are people that you know, picked up weapons and bashed

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the heads of capitol police, like that's not acceptable.

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Speaker 6: Yes, and I agree, but I also I'm also concerned.

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It's a very complicated issue. But there were a lot

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of FBI assets in that crowd, MAGA supporters, and I

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would like to get to the bottom of the people

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who did commit acts of violence. Were they actually organically

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involved people who were there to protest, or were they

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FBI assets that were put in there to agitate the crowd.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there were both. I'm sure there are both. Yeah.

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I mean there were so many people, right, I mean

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how many arrests and charge people charged were there? I

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mean it was over a thousand, right, There were so

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many people. Now, and so that's why I don't have

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any problem doing the pardons for the non violent J sixers,

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no problem whatsoever. That's I think completely appropriate because of

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the very reason now, the ones who were charged and

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convicted on the violent ones, I would have preferred that

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the White House go through those cases individually. That's what

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I would have with you.

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Speaker 6: I agree with you on that, But but I don't

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think it's a mal equivalent.

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Speaker 1: No, I I no. I mean I think if somebody

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is going up and you know, breaking through the window

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of the Capitol building in order to go in and

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commit vandalism, I think that is very on par with

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people busting out windows and keying up Tesla's.

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Speaker 6: Sure, yeah, I would agree with you. Yeah, I'm just

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meant in the general scene.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, it's just like you know, people who

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go out and stand in front of a Tesla dealership

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and and chant and protest and march around. That would

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be the equivalent of the people the non violent people

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at J six in my opinion, right right, And that's fine.

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You can demonstrate. And a lot of the people that

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were walked that walked into the Capitol, they were they

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were waved in by Capitol police, so they had no

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idea what they were doing was it was illegal, so

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they shouldn't have been charged with anything. So that's what

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I mean They're like, there's a conflation going on with

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all of the violent defenders and all of the non

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violent offenders on J six. That's not appropriate in my mind.

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Speaker 6: Well, Pete, I appreciate you, sir for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, absolutely, yes, sir, I appreciate the call.

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Speaker 3: Bers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And this is the problem. I remember when I

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first started hosting, the left would always talk about, oh,

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you know, you were right wingers are always about black

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and white, never shades of gray and all this. But I,

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in fact do explore the shades of gray right, all

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fifty of them from what I understand there. I think

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there are fifty. That there was a book or something

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about it. I have not read it, but that's my understanding.

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So I explore the nuance because, like, these issues are complex.

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Not everybody that was at the Capitol engaged in bad behavior,

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but I don't think the ones that did engage in

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the bad behavior, however many that was two, three dozen, whatever,

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I don't think those people should have gotten off the hook.

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Because the non violent people's cases, their charges were so egregious,

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and if they could go through the all of the

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cases of the you know, the violent ones and find out, okay,

533
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did you take these plea deals? Did you get overcharged

534
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and you get threatened and such to take the deals?

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But you were still claiming innocence and that like was

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the process corrupted? So that would have given you the

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opportunity to explore that and then root out that injustice.

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But they didn't do that. They just pardoned everybody. All right,

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that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much

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