WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.240 --> 00:00:02.160 All right, what's going on? 2 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:03.680 We'll do it. It is drivetime. 3 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:04.799 It's Tuesday afternoon. 4 00:00:04.839 --> 00:00:07.000 We're looking at about ten minutes past the hour of 5 00:00:07.040 --> 00:00:11.839 two o'clock, a rainy, cold chili Utah September day outside 6 00:00:11.839 --> 00:00:13.359 and as it is every day, it's good to have 7 00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:15.679 you along for the ride. Spence check. It's behind the mike, 8 00:00:15.759 --> 00:00:19.199 Porter Larson, behind the glass back in Salt Lake City. 9 00:00:19.239 --> 00:00:21.440 We are far away from each other. 10 00:00:21.800 --> 00:00:24.039 We're up here in Ogden today at a really cool 11 00:00:24.039 --> 00:00:26.120 little spot. Want you guys to come up and say hello. 12 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:30.519 It's Bellaston Jewelry. It's one one five five thirty sixth 13 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:34.719 Street here in Ogden. So Belliston Jewelry one one five 14 00:00:34.799 --> 00:00:37.759 five thirty sixth Street here in Augden, family owned since 15 00:00:37.840 --> 00:00:40.280 nineteen seventy three. Joe and Sidney Belliston. Got to get 16 00:00:40.320 --> 00:00:42.840 to know them today and they've got a great deal 17 00:00:42.880 --> 00:00:43.840 going on right off the top. 18 00:00:43.880 --> 00:00:44.560 I want to let you know. 19 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:46.840 With a twenty five hundred dollars purchase, you get a 20 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:49.640 five hundred dollars gift card at Smith and Edwards so 21 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:51.479 Belliston Jewelry, bunch. 22 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:52.799 Of Austin like engagement rings. 23 00:00:52.840 --> 00:00:55.920 It's a jewelry shop, so you can get her a 24 00:00:56.000 --> 00:00:58.119 diamond and then you can go get guns and Ammo. 25 00:00:58.280 --> 00:00:59.759 You want to know why, because we're in America. 26 00:00:59.759 --> 00:00:59.960 Baby. 27 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:01.479 With a twenty five. 28 00:01:01.359 --> 00:01:03.439 Hundred dollars purchase, you get a five hundred dollars gift 29 00:01:03.479 --> 00:01:06.480 card at Smith and Edwards. With a five thousand dollars purchase, 30 00:01:06.519 --> 00:01:08.480 you get one thousand dollars gift card at Smith and 31 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:11.200 Edwards as well. It's the best of both worlds. She 32 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:12.719 gets the jewelry, you get. 33 00:01:12.519 --> 00:01:15.560 The guns in the Amo. That's what I'm talking about. 34 00:01:15.640 --> 00:01:18.359 Offer is good until October the nineteenth. Come on by. 35 00:01:18.640 --> 00:01:21.920 I would love to see my Northern Utah listeners and 36 00:01:21.959 --> 00:01:24.040 people have a lot of family up in this direction, 37 00:01:24.120 --> 00:01:26.480 a lot of friends up in this direction. Here in 38 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:29.280 Ogden at Fellaston Jewelry, it's one one five five thirty 39 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:32.239 sixth Street. Come on by and say hello. We'd love 40 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:36.640 to meet you, all right, Jampack busy show today. The 41 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:41.400 week two Pro football slates finished last night with a 42 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:44.719 little Monday Night football and turned into a really good game. 43 00:01:44.799 --> 00:01:47.480 It was kind of a back and forth lugfest for 44 00:01:47.480 --> 00:01:49.959 a while. Kirk Cousins and the Atlanta Falcons come back 45 00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:52.920 to be Jalen hurts in the Philadelphia Eagles twenty two 46 00:01:52.959 --> 00:01:54.959 to twenty one. Great Monday night game. You heard it, 47 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:58.239 of course, right here on ESPN seven hundred. We are 48 00:01:58.280 --> 00:02:02.280 your home of the NFL here in our market. So 49 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:05.719 Week three of pro football will get rolling coming up. 50 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:07.400 It's kind of a funky schedule. Get a couple of 51 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:09.759 Monday night games next week Thursday. 52 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:12.240 This once upon a time was a proud rivalry. Not 53 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:13.360 so much anymore. 54 00:02:13.400 --> 00:02:16.319 But the Patriots and the Jets get things rolling coming 55 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:18.719 up on Thursday from metlif You can hear that game 56 00:02:18.759 --> 00:02:21.800 here out of ESBN seven hundred. And then we'll culmin 57 00:02:21.800 --> 00:02:24.199 eights next week for some NFL with the Jags and 58 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:26.240 the Bills and the Commanders and the Bengals. 59 00:02:26.879 --> 00:02:28.319 So two Monday night games. 60 00:02:28.319 --> 00:02:30.400 The Bills will be the home team at Orchard Park 61 00:02:30.439 --> 00:02:33.400 there and Cincinnati hosts the Commander's Bengal Zone. 62 00:02:33.439 --> 00:02:33.560 Two. 63 00:02:33.639 --> 00:02:35.560 Man, they got to get off the night, so for 64 00:02:35.719 --> 00:02:37.599 football comes to an end last night. 65 00:02:37.719 --> 00:02:40.319 Now a lot of attention as. 66 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:43.360 You would expect on the upcoming slate in college football. 67 00:02:43.400 --> 00:02:45.199 We'll get to the latest with the Utes, We'll get 68 00:02:45.199 --> 00:02:48.439 to the latest with BYU Utah State as well. Talk 69 00:02:48.520 --> 00:02:52.319 some big twelve football get you ready for essentially, you know, 70 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:55.280 we did have UCF and TCU last week, but. 71 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:57.599 Essentially the first week of conference played. 72 00:02:57.639 --> 00:02:59.800 For the most part, some teams have played some conference 73 00:02:59.840 --> 00:03:02.400 game games. But I'm gonna learn a lot. I think 74 00:03:02.439 --> 00:03:05.639 we'll learn a lot about both Utah and BYU as 75 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:07.680 now that the non con has come to a close, 76 00:03:08.280 --> 00:03:11.159 stuff's about to get real as case stay rose in 77 00:03:11.199 --> 00:03:14.800 a provo and Utah will head to still Water. So 78 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:18.560 both Utah and kse State playing some rich excuse me, 79 00:03:18.599 --> 00:03:22.080 both Utah and BYU playing some really tough competition coming up, 80 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:25.560 and that's what makes it fun. CBS Sports released their 81 00:03:25.639 --> 00:03:28.479 rankings of NBA head coaches. A little love for Will 82 00:03:28.520 --> 00:03:31.759 Hardy today. We'll get to that coming up on the program. 83 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:37.159 RSL Badly in need of a result tomorrow in Sandy 84 00:03:37.280 --> 00:03:40.719 Dallas is in town. RSL takeing on FC Dallas. That's 85 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:44.080 a seven thirty kicktime. Head on over to RSL dot 86 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:45.800 com for single game tickets. So we got a lot 87 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:48.879 of football. We got some pro football, college football, little RSL, 88 00:03:49.319 --> 00:03:52.240 a little love for Will Hardy, and a good guest list. 89 00:03:52.240 --> 00:03:55.080 We'll start things off today with Jason Christ from ray 90 00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:58.280 Al Saul Lake, who instantly enough might still be the 91 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:02.240 all time goalscorer, the leader and goals for the Dallas 92 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:05.360 organization is in town tomorrow, so bring j in. We'll 93 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:08.000 do a little RSL off top Matt Brown from Extra Points, 94 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:09.840 one of my favorites to talk the business to college 95 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:13.240 football with. So Matt stops by, Scott Mitchell, former Ute 96 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:17.199 and NFL quarterback. Then the voice of the Utes himself, 97 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:20.759 Bill Riley stops by the show. Now we are on 98 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:23.120 the Bill Riley Mullet Watch. I keep forgetting to bring 99 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:27.360 that up preseason on the program, Bill agreed to grow 100 00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:31.000 a mullet. If Utah football goes undefeated in the regular season, 101 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:33.079 we need twelve you wins and we're gonna get riles 102 00:04:33.079 --> 00:04:34.519 in a mullet con football game. 103 00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:36.480 So I mean we all should be on board for that. 104 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:40.279 So we've got Jason Christ, Matt Brown, Scott Mitchell, Bill Riley, 105 00:04:40.279 --> 00:04:43.279 Mee Spence checkets live in Ogden Belliston Jewelry is the 106 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:45.519 spot one one five five thirty sixth Street. 107 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:48.160 Come on by and say hi, and then back in 108 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:49.000 Salt Lake. 109 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:53.199 City is where we find the producer of this program, 110 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:55.560 Porter Larson, Real quick some breaking news. The Dolphins are 111 00:04:55.600 --> 00:04:59.319 placing TWA Tonga by Loa on injured reserve. He's gonna 112 00:04:59.319 --> 00:05:01.279 ad miss at least the next four games. So that 113 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:04.360 just came down porter young man. How's your Tuesday. 114 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:09.680 Tuesday's gone well, Spence obviously, always always a little different 115 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:12.040 with you not in studio, so we'll see you when 116 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:12.720 you get back here. 117 00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:16.839 A little jealous. I quite like Otown, so we'll have 118 00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:18.920 to make my way up there in the near future. 119 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:22.639 Ogden's been gentrified, man, This place is popping now right, 120 00:05:22.720 --> 00:05:24.800 So no Salt Lake City snobbery. 121 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:26.279 Ogden's where it's at these days. 122 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:28.439 Hey, this is It's a good little spot. 123 00:05:28.480 --> 00:05:30.279 It is, for sure, So come on buy and say 124 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:32.800 I all right. Our first guest today Jason Christ right 125 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:34.439 out of the gates. But before we get to Jay 126 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:37.279 on a Tuesday afternoon, courtesy of our good friends at 127 00:05:37.319 --> 00:05:40.519 Standard Restaurant Supply, it's time now for your opening tip. 128 00:05:41.160 --> 00:05:43.759 Welcome to the Drive with Spence. Check it's on Utah's 129 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:47.439 number one sports talk Now into the studio of ESPN 130 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:49.720 seven hundred to set the scene for the show. 131 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:51.319 The opening tip of the. 132 00:05:51.319 --> 00:05:54.240 Drive is brought to you by Standard restaurant supply, your 133 00:05:54.279 --> 00:05:57.079 one stop shop to build the best tailgate in town. 134 00:05:57.959 --> 00:06:01.519 Standard Restaurant Supply thirty five, one hundred Southwest Temple. 135 00:06:03.439 --> 00:06:06.600 So, big weekend ahead in the landscape of local college football, 136 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:09.199 and I do think we're gonna learn a lot about 137 00:06:09.240 --> 00:06:12.600 BYU and Utah coming up with the opponents being a 138 00:06:12.600 --> 00:06:15.879 little bit different. It's not just conference play. Both BYU 139 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:18.480 and Utah will play two of potentially the three or 140 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:21.199 four best teams in the conference. So coming up two 141 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:25.439 pm on Fox on Saturday, Utah is in Stillwater where 142 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:28.160 this line has been funky. Right now, Utah is a 143 00:06:28.199 --> 00:06:31.879 two point favorite. It started out Okay Okay State about 144 00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:34.079 minus one point five, moved to the Utes, went back 145 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:37.199 to Okay Okay State. Now it's back at Utah. Over 146 00:06:37.279 --> 00:06:40.560 under is fifty four point five. Okay, it's a big number. 147 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:43.480 I point that out because Vegas has to be operating 148 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:45.279 off the assumption that Cameron Rising is going to be 149 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:49.120 under quarterback, under center playing quarterback. We're operating off the 150 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:51.959 same assumption. Just so you guys know, all the intel 151 00:06:52.199 --> 00:06:54.480 we have at this point is that Cameron will play 152 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:58.680 booms Picken Stadium. It's about the same size as Rice Ecles. 153 00:06:58.800 --> 00:07:01.800 It gets loud just like Ecles. It'll be jam packed 154 00:07:02.240 --> 00:07:04.600 and it's gonna be hot. The ACU weather game time 155 00:07:04.639 --> 00:07:07.800 forecast is ninety four degrees and Sunny Fox has picked 156 00:07:07.800 --> 00:07:09.639 this up. You can watch it on Fox, of course, 157 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:12.360 you can hear it on ESPN seven hundred. As were 158 00:07:12.360 --> 00:07:13.879 you're home of the Utes and as been and have 159 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:17.240 been for decades and decades and decades. Porter glad you're 160 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:20.000 taken care of with pregame coverage and that's going to 161 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:23.120 start at ten o'clock on Saturday, so stay tuned for 162 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:27.600 that and BYU for their task this week, they welcome 163 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:30.600 in a team in k State that I still think 164 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:33.079 Iowa State probably has the best win in the conference 165 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:35.920 right now because they beat Iowa on the road. But 166 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:39.600 k State undressed Arizona last week and that was a 167 00:07:39.600 --> 00:07:41.319 Friday that game, so we were able to kind of 168 00:07:41.319 --> 00:07:42.040 watch that thing. 169 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:43.920 They gashed him on the ground. 170 00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:47.759 Now BYU's defense this year has been phenomenal. Their season, 171 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:50.800 to me, will be predicated on how the quarterback stuff 172 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:51.639 kind of plays out. 173 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:53.199 Can Jake figure it out? 174 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:55.040 Can he stop making the mistakes that we saw in 175 00:07:55.079 --> 00:07:57.800 four starts last year and that we've seen in the 176 00:07:57.839 --> 00:08:00.600 first three starts this year BYU th you know, back 177 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:01.199 to back years. 178 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:03.360 Will it be different? You guys remember last year they 179 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:04.680 lost their final five. 180 00:08:04.519 --> 00:08:06.879 Games and did not go to a bowl game, leading 181 00:08:06.920 --> 00:08:08.319 a lot of people to really put a lot of 182 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:11.920 pressure Dennis Dodd and other national riders on Kolani and 183 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:14.000 his staff saying they're on watch this year if things 184 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:14.720 don't go better. 185 00:08:14.759 --> 00:08:17.319 So a massive, massive task for. 186 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:21.879 Kilane and BYU welcoming in K State to provo they 187 00:08:21.879 --> 00:08:24.399 get that win. They're off to four and ZHO my 188 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:26.279 guests would be they beat K State at home, they're 189 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:28.240 going to be ranked in the top twenty five heading 190 00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:32.320 on the road to Baylor and then home against Arizona. Now, 191 00:08:32.360 --> 00:08:34.720 of course, Utah already highly ranked their twelfth in the 192 00:08:34.799 --> 00:08:38.879 nation according to the AP, and this would be a 193 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:43.360 statement game for Big twelve football fans that aren't necessarily 194 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:46.279 comfortable welcoming in the Utah UTAs and now, and there's 195 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:47.840 a lot of you, I see you, I hear you, 196 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:50.320 And there are a lot of people, I think and 197 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:54.320 I understand why kind of rooting for Utah to not 198 00:08:54.440 --> 00:08:56.200 do well in their first year in the Big twelve, 199 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:58.399 because let's call it how it is. Utah came into 200 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:00.320 the Big twelve with a lot of bravado, a lot 201 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:03.759 of earned bravado. And by the way, you could make 202 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:07.600 the case that out of all the four corner schools 203 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:10.360 that made the jump to the Big twelve, Utah really 204 00:09:10.440 --> 00:09:13.879 is the only one so far that looks like that 205 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:16.919 looks like it belongs with the physicality. 206 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:18.679 Of the conference, not with the ebbs and flows. 207 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:20.919 I mean, we'll see what Arizona State does because they're 208 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:25.240 clean as of now as well. But Arizona in that 209 00:09:25.279 --> 00:09:28.440 game against KSE State, K State bullied them, they pushed 210 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:31.120 them around. Arizona's one of those teams that a lot 211 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:33.639 of people thought, you know, coming in from the Pac twelve, 212 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:35.440 had a chance to win the Big twelve year one, 213 00:09:36.159 --> 00:09:36.639 not at all. 214 00:09:36.679 --> 00:09:38.919 I mean, k State just pushed them around. 215 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:41.960 It's not that Arizona doesn't have a good skill position players, 216 00:09:42.559 --> 00:09:45.159 it's ultimately that they don't have the dudes in the trenches. 217 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:48.440 I'm not sure if Arizona State does. I know Colorado 218 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:51.799 does not. This could be a situation where Utah is 219 00:09:51.840 --> 00:09:54.440 the one Pac twelve team heading into Big twelve play 220 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:58.879 that looks like it stacks up physically with every other team. Hey, look, 221 00:09:59.200 --> 00:10:03.240 we're used to Utah football and their physicality actually being 222 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:06.279 a mismatch, right, So it's not just stacking up. It's 223 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:10.200 also ken Utah's brand of football that was so successful 224 00:10:10.200 --> 00:10:13.320 in the Pac twelve read the same type of success 225 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:15.120 in the Big twelve right out of the gates, and 226 00:10:15.159 --> 00:10:17.000 now we're gonna start to learn whether or not it's 227 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:20.279 that that's the case, coming up at Okay State, number 228 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:23.679 fourteen ranked team in the country, and excited to see 229 00:10:23.679 --> 00:10:26.480 how it plays out, right, So you know, throughout the 230 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:28.519 course of the week, we'll continue to kind of preview 231 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:30.240 this game. We have good guests to talk about it 232 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:32.080 today as well. Of course we'll give you our pick 233 00:10:32.759 --> 00:10:35.840 coming up on Friday before the game. But both Utah 234 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:39.559 and BYU off to three and oh starts heading into 235 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:42.759 conference play, and both teams of state queen real quick, 236 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:46.960 real quick, before we catch our first break, We're gonna 237 00:10:47.320 --> 00:10:49.720 just give Will Hardy a little bit of love just 238 00:10:49.759 --> 00:10:51.759 out of nowhere here, because if you listen to the show, 239 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:55.279 you know, oftentimes I talk about you know, Will as 240 00:10:55.320 --> 00:10:58.039 a third year head coach, is he getting frustrated that 241 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:01.120 he doesn't have the horses just yet, and I can't 242 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:01.639 speak to that. 243 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:02.679 I don't have an answer there. 244 00:11:02.679 --> 00:11:06.240 But CBS put out their rankings of NBA coaches today 245 00:11:06.960 --> 00:11:10.639 and they put Will at number seven, which I thought 246 00:11:10.679 --> 00:11:15.240 was really really high and you know, really complimentary ultimately 247 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:16.320 of who Will Hardy is. 248 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:17.879 So we're not gonna do a lot of jazz day. 249 00:11:17.879 --> 00:11:19.639 It's mostly gonna be football, but I wanted to kind 250 00:11:19.639 --> 00:11:21.639 of bring that on airon case you missed it. According 251 00:11:21.679 --> 00:11:25.080 to CBS Sports, Will Hardy the seventh ranked coach in 252 00:11:25.120 --> 00:11:25.639 the NBA. 253 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:28.600 It's time to hit the pitch on the drive. The 254 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:31.639 RSL Insider Today and every day is brought to you 255 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:34.759 by Beer Bar head Downtown for watch parties and game 256 00:11:34.840 --> 00:11:38.919 day shuttles to the stadium. More at beer barslc dot com. 257 00:11:38.919 --> 00:11:42.000 Back to little college football coming up in just a 258 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:44.799 little bit, we're gonna bring in Matt Brown from Extra 259 00:11:44.879 --> 00:11:48.399 Points for all the latest on well, the business side 260 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:51.559 Pac twelve expansion, what it means potentially for the Big 261 00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:56.399 Twelve in the ACC and some interesting details about television 262 00:11:56.399 --> 00:11:59.480 windows and when the Big Twelve is actually being selected 263 00:11:59.559 --> 00:12:03.360 to play in certain windows. We only have one of 264 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:06.720 the seven games I believe decided coming up on the 265 00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:09.200 twenty ninth. I think that's the Arizona Utah game. Is 266 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:11.360 the only kicktime that's been decided. It's late. I know 267 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:14.639 fans are upset bringing Matt Brown. We also have Scott Mitchell, 268 00:12:14.759 --> 00:12:18.679 Bill Riley too, but joining me now right off the top. 269 00:12:19.080 --> 00:12:21.159 You know it's gonna be football coming up this weekend, 270 00:12:21.240 --> 00:12:24.320 but a little RSL soccer and kind of a sneaky 271 00:12:24.320 --> 00:12:27.600 big match is Dallas is in town. Our next guest 272 00:12:27.679 --> 00:12:30.960 is the all time leading scorer from the Dallas BYRNE 273 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:34.279 and now part of the brain trust at Rayale Salt Lake, 274 00:12:34.960 --> 00:12:38.639 Jason Christ on a Tuesday afternoon, Jay, Happy Tuesday, buddy, How. 275 00:12:38.519 --> 00:12:40.600 Are you doing I'm doing great. 276 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:41.080 How are you? 277 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:44.240 Are you still the all time leading scorer of the 278 00:12:44.320 --> 00:12:46.480 Dallas Burne FC Dallas franchise? 279 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:47.879 I think so. 280 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:50.639 I think nobody else lasted as long as playing there 281 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:53.240 as me. There was guys that scored more goals per season, 282 00:12:53.320 --> 00:12:56.320 but I don't think anybody else spent nine years there. 283 00:12:56.480 --> 00:12:57.840 So yeah, I think it's still fine. 284 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:01.240 Longevity is important, but you can't tell me. 285 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:04.120 You don't know for sure. If somebody broke your record, 286 00:13:04.120 --> 00:13:05.559 you would know, Jay, right. 287 00:13:06.840 --> 00:13:08.080 Yeah, I'm just trying to remember. 288 00:13:08.559 --> 00:13:10.600 I know Hydys Ferrera is close. 289 00:13:10.799 --> 00:13:11.240 Was close. 290 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:13.879 Maybe that was a single season. There's something there that 291 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:15.600 he's getting close to breaking my record on. 292 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:22.159 So yeah, is there when RSL plays formerly the Dallas 293 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:24.840 for an FC Dallas? Does that conjure up any Jason 294 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:27.360 christ weird feelings one way or the other? 295 00:13:28.559 --> 00:13:32.320 No, it doesn't anymore. After you've gone from that club 296 00:13:32.399 --> 00:13:36.879 to here, to New York, Orlando to Miami, your memory 297 00:13:36.919 --> 00:13:37.720 runs a little thin. 298 00:13:38.960 --> 00:13:40.080 Fair enough, fair enough? 299 00:13:40.440 --> 00:13:40.759 All right? 300 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:41.080 Jay? 301 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:44.679 You know, what do you say about Houston? What do 302 00:13:44.720 --> 00:13:48.039 you say about Saturday? It was it was bad. Pablo 303 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:52.399 owned it after the game during media. I don't know, man, 304 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:54.120 It feels like you and I have been chatting on 305 00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:57.000 a weekly basis about a team that once upon a 306 00:13:57.039 --> 00:13:59.240 time had a fifteen game on beaten streak and was 307 00:13:59.279 --> 00:14:01.639 atop of the table in MLS, and now Jay, it 308 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:03.360 feels like there's a bit of a slide going on. 309 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:04.919 Are what are your thoughts. 310 00:14:04.720 --> 00:14:06.960 Both on Houston over the weekend and where you guys 311 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:08.240 are at from a macro level. 312 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:11.919 Yeah, not good, obviously not good. 313 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:13.919 None of us are happy I think all of us 314 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:17.879 feel a bit of angst, a bit of frustration. There's 315 00:14:17.919 --> 00:14:22.519 a whole lot of questioning now about where the problems 316 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:25.840 lie and how we can move forward. But there's one 317 00:14:25.879 --> 00:14:29.360 thing that's clear in my mind after spending yesterday with 318 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:32.039 the coaching staff is that we're all still in this 319 00:14:32.159 --> 00:14:35.519 very much together, and also there's a belief that this 320 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:38.559 team can get back to where it was before or 321 00:14:38.600 --> 00:14:42.679 even actually be better. I think it's it's typical that 322 00:14:42.720 --> 00:14:45.039 every MLS team is going to go through a slide. 323 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:48.679 We we, I feel like, have had been on a 324 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:49.840 little bit of prolonged one. 325 00:14:49.879 --> 00:14:51.320 As I've said now many times. 326 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:54.759 For me, there's been some results that have gone our 327 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:57.759 way or met perhaps maybe we weren't quite there, but 328 00:14:57.919 --> 00:15:00.360 to be fair, through this, through this run, there's also 329 00:15:00.399 --> 00:15:03.320 been a result or two that actually felt we deserved more. 330 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:05.879 And so now it's I think it's a time just 331 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:08.440 to continue to move forward. It's a time to realize 332 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:11.519 that we're getting to the end of the season. It's 333 00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:14.440 a time for everybody to come together, really really together 334 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:18.080 and understand one thing. In my opinion, I think it 335 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:21.159 needs to be simplified now to the point where the 336 00:15:21.159 --> 00:15:25.440 players need to understand that you must out work the opponent. 337 00:15:25.720 --> 00:15:27.960 If we have a chance to win anything here, it's 338 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:30.480 going to come through a collective effort. It is not 339 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:35.399 going to come through individual star players or star players. 340 00:15:36.480 --> 00:15:39.759 So every sport matchups are real. 341 00:15:40.320 --> 00:15:44.480 Oftentimes it's what leads to great results or following flat 342 00:15:44.519 --> 00:15:46.840 on your face if you just simply don't match up 343 00:15:47.480 --> 00:15:50.080 with another team very well, or the other team simply 344 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:51.879 doesn't match up with you. I mean, it's just how 345 00:15:51.879 --> 00:15:54.120 it is. It doesn't matter what sport it is. What 346 00:15:54.360 --> 00:15:57.000 is it, Jay Like, I think it's one five and 347 00:15:57.200 --> 00:16:00.799 three over the last nine for you guys against Like, 348 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:03.720 what's have you been able to identify with why this 349 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:06.080 club has been so problematic for you guys? 350 00:16:07.240 --> 00:16:08.960 I think you know, as we talked about last week, 351 00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:10.919 I think for me, first and foremost is just the 352 00:16:10.960 --> 00:16:12.120 differences in climates. 353 00:16:13.039 --> 00:16:15.679 Last week. It was really difficult to go into the 354 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:16.519 end of that week. 355 00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:18.399 Thinking about, oh, we've got a cold front coming through 356 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:20.279 here in Salt Lake, so our guys are now training 357 00:16:20.279 --> 00:16:22.639 in fifty and sixty degree weather and they go down 358 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:25.960 there for a ninety degree game. So you could see 359 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:28.519 from my perspective, you could see pretty clearly that there 360 00:16:28.519 --> 00:16:31.799 was a level of fatigue and exhaustion that just is 361 00:16:31.919 --> 00:16:35.159 it seems out of place, but it is what it is. 362 00:16:35.840 --> 00:16:38.600 And then I think there's also a little bit of 363 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:40.120 the tactics of Houston. 364 00:16:39.799 --> 00:16:41.159 And how good they are with the ball. 365 00:16:42.159 --> 00:16:45.879 We often times are the are the dominant possession team 366 00:16:45.960 --> 00:16:48.960 and most of the matches that we play, and we 367 00:16:49.159 --> 00:16:51.240 enjoy that, and I think the guy's getting confidence from that. 368 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:54.000 And then we go play against a team like Houston 369 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:56.480 in Houston and now they have the ball for the 370 00:16:56.480 --> 00:16:58.120 majority of the time, and so I think that creates 371 00:16:58.120 --> 00:17:00.120 a level of disco. 372 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:02.240 In our group and creates a level. 373 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:07.240 Of lack of confidence that that ultimately hurts our team. 374 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:10.079 So we've got to we've got to figure out a 375 00:17:10.119 --> 00:17:17.400 way to not allow that level of unconfidence discomfort come 376 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:19.519 into our guys feelings and minds. 377 00:17:20.720 --> 00:17:23.440 So I haven't addressed this, and we're gonna have Pablo 378 00:17:23.519 --> 00:17:25.400 on later in the week. I'll certainly ask him because 379 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:27.359 this might be more of a question for him, and 380 00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:29.039 if it is, please go ahead and tell me. But 381 00:17:29.559 --> 00:17:32.839 you know, preseason, then the start of the season, whether 382 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:35.559 I had coaches or players on a lot of the 383 00:17:35.599 --> 00:17:39.200 conversation was about this new system that Pablo and the 384 00:17:39.240 --> 00:17:42.720 new staff that he was given wanted to implement juxtaposed 385 00:17:42.759 --> 00:17:44.279 to what you guys tried to do over the past 386 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:48.880 few years. Is that system something that needs to be reevaluated? 387 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:52.559 What's the progress there? Have you guys considered changing things up? 388 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:54.279 Because look, I mean, it is what it is. The 389 00:17:54.359 --> 00:17:57.319 results haven't been there as of late, So let's talk 390 00:17:57.319 --> 00:17:58.759 about that for a second. Where are you at with 391 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:00.680 this system that we seem to talk a lot about, 392 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:01.880 you know, three months ago or so. 393 00:18:04.119 --> 00:18:06.000 I think, yeah, I mean, I think that we should 394 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:08.839 always be looking for answers and we should always be 395 00:18:08.880 --> 00:18:13.000 willing to challenge ourselves on whatever the issue can be. 396 00:18:13.039 --> 00:18:14.480 But what I would say right now is that there 397 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:17.839 has been a clear identification on one thing, and that's 398 00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:21.720 the work rate, and we can and those those numbers 399 00:18:21.720 --> 00:18:23.160 are right in front of your eyes. Some of the 400 00:18:23.240 --> 00:18:25.680 system talks, you can start to get into some of 401 00:18:25.680 --> 00:18:27.559 the grayness of a lot of things. 402 00:18:28.119 --> 00:18:28.880 But when you have. 403 00:18:28.880 --> 00:18:31.839 Players that are being tracked by satellites or wearing GPS 404 00:18:31.880 --> 00:18:35.200 modules on their backs, and when a work level and 405 00:18:35.240 --> 00:18:38.759 a running level reaches a low point or as below average, 406 00:18:38.799 --> 00:18:40.559 and every time you do that, you lose. 407 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:42.400 That's where you start first. 408 00:18:43.519 --> 00:18:45.519 And so and like I said before, I think we 409 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:50.079 need to be very simple and very clear about how 410 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:53.400 we put ourselves in a position to win games, and 411 00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:56.880 that is to outwork our opponent. It's very very clear, Spence, 412 00:18:56.920 --> 00:18:59.400 It's actually shocking to go back and look at the 413 00:18:59.480 --> 00:19:03.480 data and align at data when it was below average 414 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:07.079 and then align that with the results. It's shockingly clear. 415 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:10.839 If our guys don't outwork our opponents, we lose, as 416 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:11.440 simple as that. 417 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:15.079 So I've got to ask a follow up because this 418 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:17.039 is the first time hearing of this, and maybe I'm 419 00:19:17.039 --> 00:19:19.960 the last one to know about it, but I'm interested 420 00:19:20.039 --> 00:19:24.160 to know what that tracking system looks like, what the 421 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:27.359 ideology is behind it, and if you could shed any 422 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:30.440 light and more details on how you guys are utilizing 423 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:33.200 that to really identify exactly what your problems are. 424 00:19:34.079 --> 00:19:34.400 Yeah. 425 00:19:34.440 --> 00:19:37.240 So the players all wear GPS units on their back, 426 00:19:37.319 --> 00:19:39.200 some of them won't wear it just for you know, 427 00:19:39.400 --> 00:19:42.359 collective bargaining agreement type stuff. There's information that maybe they 428 00:19:42.359 --> 00:19:45.119 don't want everybody to know out there. For the players 429 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:49.400 that don't their satellite tracking of their movements during every match. 430 00:19:49.920 --> 00:19:52.000 Oftentimes as a fan you'll see that because you'll see 431 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:53.720 a player being subbed out, and it'll give you his 432 00:19:53.799 --> 00:19:58.000 total distance. Usually it's ten kilometers, which are usually between 433 00:19:58.039 --> 00:20:01.799 ten and fifteen kilometers that they've run per game. There's 434 00:20:01.839 --> 00:20:04.160 all kinds of other information that goes into that high 435 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:09.039 speed running, high speed running per minute. There's all kinds 436 00:20:09.039 --> 00:20:12.240 of different data that can be looked at and analyzed 437 00:20:12.279 --> 00:20:15.400 and utilized. And so for us, we have several metrics 438 00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:18.440 that we track based upon our game model. And when 439 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:21.480 those metrics have dropped below a certain level, like a 440 00:20:21.559 --> 00:20:24.279 mean let's call it, or an average, the results have 441 00:20:24.359 --> 00:20:28.119 been poor. And when those levels have been higher than 442 00:20:28.160 --> 00:20:32.279 our average, our results have been good. And on top 443 00:20:32.359 --> 00:20:35.319 of that, when you put those metrics against our opponents, 444 00:20:35.880 --> 00:20:38.400 when our opponent's levels are higher than ours, they win. 445 00:20:39.079 --> 00:20:40.480 And so this is what I mean when I say 446 00:20:40.519 --> 00:20:42.640 I think we need simple and clear messages to the 447 00:20:42.680 --> 00:20:45.640 players right now and not as basically, outwork your opponent 448 00:20:45.640 --> 00:20:48.119 and you give yourself a chance to win. If you don't, 449 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:48.759 you won't. 450 00:20:50.920 --> 00:20:54.319 So I'm very fascinated at this dynamic all of a 451 00:20:54.319 --> 00:20:56.480 sudden here, and I'm not going to ask you to 452 00:20:56.480 --> 00:20:58.920 put individual players out there, and I know you wouldn't 453 00:20:58.920 --> 00:21:02.680 need anyway, but as this data indicated that there are 454 00:21:02.799 --> 00:21:06.480 specific players that need to be spoken to in very 455 00:21:06.559 --> 00:21:12.440 uncertain terms and have some of the starting lineup starting 456 00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:17.839 eleven and substitute decisions in line with the players where 457 00:21:17.880 --> 00:21:20.359 the data reflects that maybe they're not working the way 458 00:21:20.359 --> 00:21:21.039 that they need to. 459 00:21:21.960 --> 00:21:27.480 Yes, and yes, simple right, Yes, those conversations need to happen, 460 00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:29.720 and they will or have already happened. 461 00:21:29.759 --> 00:21:30.400 And yes, some. 462 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:33.160 Decisions will be made based upon whether or not you run. 463 00:21:34.160 --> 00:21:35.880 And that's as simple as you can be. I think 464 00:21:35.960 --> 00:21:38.200 what you do is you make it very clear for 465 00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:41.240 the players that you know, if you're not in the lineup, 466 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:44.079 it's probably because you haven't been working hard enough. If 467 00:21:44.119 --> 00:21:46.160 you're brought out of a game, it's probably because you 468 00:21:46.200 --> 00:21:49.480 haven't been running enough. And so it has to start 469 00:21:49.519 --> 00:21:52.920 with some certain level of something. And that's where we're 470 00:21:53.039 --> 00:21:54.759 that's where we're starting at, and that's what we're holding 471 00:21:54.759 --> 00:21:56.880 onto right now, is to just make that very very 472 00:21:56.880 --> 00:21:58.200 simple and very very clear. 473 00:21:58.759 --> 00:22:01.920 Have you considered putting a GPS tracking device on Trey 474 00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:04.880 during home games? 475 00:22:06.119 --> 00:22:08.400 We have not. It probably would be a little bit 476 00:22:08.440 --> 00:22:11.480 more worthy or time time well spent to put a 477 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:13.359 blood pressure monitor on him. 478 00:22:14.720 --> 00:22:17.519 Fair enough, Hey, as a guy who wants upon a time, 479 00:22:17.559 --> 00:22:19.799 and I mean for me, number nine should be retired. 480 00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:21.480 That's my opinion. But whatever, As a guy for a 481 00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:23.880 long time who wore nine. 482 00:22:23.799 --> 00:22:27.559 For RSL and scored goals for RSL, are you getting 483 00:22:27.559 --> 00:22:30.160 what you need from Chico? And attendant to the question 484 00:22:30.359 --> 00:22:34.279 when the suspension came down, I talked to several people 485 00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:36.559 with the club and several people outside of the club 486 00:22:36.599 --> 00:22:39.160 that pontificated like this is the type of thing that 487 00:22:39.200 --> 00:22:41.440 derails the season. I'm not trying to be over dramatic 488 00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:45.279 or hyperbolic, but the fact of the matter is he's 489 00:22:45.359 --> 00:22:48.559 not playing the way he was prior to. He's not standing, 490 00:22:48.599 --> 00:22:50.000 you know, he's not finding the back of the net 491 00:22:50.039 --> 00:22:53.319 prior to. I can't speak to anything behind closed doors, 492 00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:53.599 no what. 493 00:22:53.559 --> 00:22:54.200 I ever tried to. 494 00:22:54.359 --> 00:22:58.240 But from a player and a leadership standpoint, are you 495 00:22:58.279 --> 00:22:59.319 getting what you need from. 496 00:22:59.200 --> 00:22:59.960 Your number nine? 497 00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:03.079 The message that goes to Chijo is the same that. 498 00:23:03.039 --> 00:23:05.680 Goes to every other player in the group right now, 499 00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:09.519 that that exact same message that it has to start 500 00:23:09.559 --> 00:23:13.039 with the work It has to start with your willingness 501 00:23:13.680 --> 00:23:16.079 to do anything and everything possible for the team. It 502 00:23:16.079 --> 00:23:19.519 has to start with your commitment level. That commitment level, 503 00:23:19.559 --> 00:23:22.039 that work rate has not been to the same level 504 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:25.960 that it was before his suspension. And again, you know 505 00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:28.440 what you're doing is you're being very simple and very 506 00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:32.119 clear to say if you give us that, the other 507 00:23:32.160 --> 00:23:34.880 stuff will come. And that just comes from my personal 508 00:23:34.920 --> 00:23:37.640 history of being a striker as well as being a 509 00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:41.240 coach of some pretty prolific strikers, that players like that 510 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:43.839 go through slumps and oftentimes we can get them to 511 00:23:43.880 --> 00:23:46.799 focus on something else. What you'll find is you get 512 00:23:46.839 --> 00:23:49.079 the work that you need. That would be great, but 513 00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:51.279 you can also get some of that confidence back when 514 00:23:51.279 --> 00:23:53.400 they're not worried just about scoring goals. 515 00:23:55.839 --> 00:23:58.119 Interesting, well, yeah, I mean obviously you need them to 516 00:23:58.119 --> 00:24:00.160 find the back of the dead. I wonder if you 517 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:04.799 could take us into the ongoing projects of breaking in 518 00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:08.480 new players. I mean, you guys had a busy transfer window. 519 00:24:08.640 --> 00:24:11.720 You took some very calculated risks, of course, getting rid 520 00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:13.400 of some players that were playing well for you for 521 00:24:13.480 --> 00:24:15.440 a premium and then bringing in players that you thought 522 00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:20.119 would fit in. So what don't we see about Lachlan 523 00:24:20.359 --> 00:24:24.000 and Diego, and you know, obviously we're kind of still 524 00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:26.319 waiting for Mark Zuke to be on the ground consistently 525 00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:26.720 to train. 526 00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:30.000 But just walk us through this. Obviously, it's a process to. 527 00:24:29.920 --> 00:24:34.000 Get teammates familiar with each other and acclimated to the altitude, 528 00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:37.079 acclimated to the community. All the things take time. I 529 00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:40.440 understand that where we actually with the continued to implement 530 00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:44.000 implementation of your five signings during the summer transfer window. 531 00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:46.680 Well, I think what we've seen is we've seen good 532 00:24:46.960 --> 00:24:51.720 signs from all of the players individually and within the group, 533 00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:55.640 but not consistently yet. And so that's what I would 534 00:24:55.640 --> 00:24:57.799 hold on to. That's what we are holding onto that 535 00:24:57.839 --> 00:25:01.519 We've seen a game and and half of Diogo. 536 00:25:01.240 --> 00:25:04.759 That was quite good. We've seen sixty. 537 00:25:04.440 --> 00:25:07.920 Minutes from Jervane that was really good. We've seen Dominic 538 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:10.319 come off the bench now at Houston and have a 539 00:25:10.359 --> 00:25:11.640 really positive contribution. 540 00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:12.440 He looked bright. 541 00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:14.200 We've seen Lachlan. 542 00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:17.039 Probably arguably are only what I would say above average 543 00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:20.880 player at Houston was Lachlan, and so in a couple 544 00:25:20.960 --> 00:25:24.599 of games we've seen moments from him as well, but 545 00:25:24.720 --> 00:25:27.240 we haven't seen it, you know, over a stretch of 546 00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:29.599 a couple of games, and we haven't seen consistency, and 547 00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:33.559 we haven't seen the group altogether firing and all cylinders. 548 00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:37.119 So we've seen the snapshots, but now we need to see. 549 00:25:36.920 --> 00:25:39.839 The whole movie. Do you feel like you're getting buying? 550 00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:41.880 Do you feel like you have trust in that locker room? 551 00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:44.720 I mean, you can't win trophies, You can't win much 552 00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:47.079 if you don't trust your teammates, if you don't trust 553 00:25:47.119 --> 00:25:49.920 your coaches, if you don't trust your coaching staff, and 554 00:25:50.039 --> 00:25:51.680 Jay you know the deal man when the results go 555 00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:53.400 the other way, I've got to ask you these questions. 556 00:25:53.400 --> 00:25:54.960 Do you feel like the group trusts each other? 557 00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:57.119 Do you have the locker room. 558 00:25:57.359 --> 00:25:59.559 One hundred percent? I mean I won't speak to the 559 00:25:59.559 --> 00:26:03.200 locker room is that's no longer my domain. My domain 560 00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:05.720 is the coaching staff, and my domain is what I 561 00:26:05.720 --> 00:26:07.480 think of the players based upon want to seeing the 562 00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:09.279 training sessions and the matches. And I don't see all 563 00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:12.480 the training sessions either. But we started the conversation with 564 00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:15.680 one thing that we're clear on. We are all still 565 00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:19.400 very much together in this. So absolutely the trust is 566 00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:21.319 there for the coaching staff. The trust is there that 567 00:26:21.359 --> 00:26:25.559 we have the requisite level of talent and the knowledge 568 00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:28.240 is there that these players are all capable of doing 569 00:26:28.880 --> 00:26:31.119 exactly what's demanded of them. If we think we're going 570 00:26:31.160 --> 00:26:33.200 to have a chance to win. It's just about them 571 00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:35.960 doing it now. It is not a question about can. 572 00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:37.599 It is a question of will or will not. 573 00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:42.079 So when last we spoke, and I want to revisit 574 00:26:42.119 --> 00:26:45.799 this throughout the course of the season. You know, Pablo 575 00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:50.240 himself shared with me the detail of like waiting for 576 00:26:50.559 --> 00:26:53.960 his Kyle Beckerman, waiting for his Jason christ waiting for 577 00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:57.279 his Pablo Master any like the guy who is on 578 00:26:57.319 --> 00:27:00.559 the team that isn't afraid to m f the teammate 579 00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:02.960 if things aren't going well, even if you're a little 580 00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:05.599 bit afraid to offend somebody in the sake of competition 581 00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:07.640 or the same of winning, or in the sake of 582 00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:11.200 competition and the sake of getting results and winning any sport, 583 00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:13.000 any level. You got a couple of those dogs. You 584 00:27:13.079 --> 00:27:15.359 got a couple of those guys. You know, I feel 585 00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:18.240 like Catronis might be one, but I don't know what's 586 00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:21.000 the what's the update on this search for the uh, 587 00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:23.599 the bite and the toughness. You're gonna you're gonna need 588 00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:24.960 if you want to lift a trophy. 589 00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:29.119 It's still ongoing spence, And I would say, you know, again, 590 00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:30.880 like I said last week, this is the time of 591 00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:34.079 the season that players either step forward or step back. Right, 592 00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:36.000 This is the time of the season. This is where 593 00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:39.200 big players make big players in big games. And so 594 00:27:39.559 --> 00:27:44.000 the answer is to be determined, and the opportunity is 595 00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:46.680 there for all the players to step forward and be counted. 596 00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:50.119 All right, before I say you loose, tell me about Dallas. 597 00:27:50.200 --> 00:27:52.920 You know the record isn't great, they're outside the playoff line. 598 00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:54.880 But of course you know right now, it doesn't matter 599 00:27:54.920 --> 00:27:57.079 who you're playing. You gotta get three. You gotta get 600 00:27:57.079 --> 00:27:59.119 three at home. It's a big It's like a sneaky 601 00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:00.480 big match Jay tomorrow. 602 00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:02.720 So tell me about Dallas. What do you guys. 603 00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:04.279 Need to do to get all three? Take care of 604 00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:04.920 your home field. 605 00:28:05.960 --> 00:28:08.119 This is a big game. It's not sneaky big. It's 606 00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:10.160 a big game. As in all of the games are 607 00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:13.039 going forward are big games for us because this is 608 00:28:13.079 --> 00:28:15.519 about making it into the playoffs and giving ourselves the 609 00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:17.599 best chance to win something in the playoffs, which means 610 00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:21.440 home field advantage. So every game is massive. Dallas is 611 00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:25.279 an interesting team because they had a good season last year. 612 00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:26.799 They came in this season and. 613 00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:29.119 Really struggled to kind of find their way. They've had 614 00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:30.400 a lot of injuries. 615 00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:33.599 With some of their most important players. From what I 616 00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:36.000 gather now, they've got all their best players back and 617 00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:38.880 are all healthy. They've been on a run of good form. 618 00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:41.640 So you know, it's a team that seems to be 619 00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:43.440 heading forward and we seem to be heading. 620 00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:44.200 Sideways or backwards. 621 00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:46.599 So it's time to arrest all of that. It is 622 00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:48.839 time too. As I said before, it's time to simplify, 623 00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:51.559 simplify and clarify, and it is time for players to 624 00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:53.720 step forward and make their mark. 625 00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:57.279 All right, my guy, well be pulling for he is always. 626 00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:00.519 Appreciate the time today and get luck tomorrow. Okay, all right, buddy, 627 00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:04.039 take care Jason christ Rayel saw Lake. It's a big 628 00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:05.839 one tomorrow. 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It's one one five five thirty sixth 679 00:31:28.559 --> 00:31:30.160 Street here in Ogden, ESPN. 680 00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:31.720 Seven hundred. Van is right out front. 681 00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:36.880 You can't miss us and joining me now, Joe Belliston. Joe, 682 00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:37.640 how are you doing, Buddy? 683 00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:38.200 I'm great. 684 00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:39.920 How are you, Spence, I'm good. Thanks for the time. 685 00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:42.119 So we had your wife Sydney on earlier. So this 686 00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:44.200 is a this is a labor of love. It's a 687 00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:45.319 family business, isn't it. 688 00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:45.839 That's right. 689 00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:49.599 Yeah, Mike, Dad actually started the business fifty one years ago. 690 00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:51.799 That's awesome. Yeah, and now it's you and your wife 691 00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:55.319 running it as a team. Yeah, yep, exactly. All right, So 692 00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:59.119 it's blinging boom, right, I mean listeners can relate to that. 693 00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:01.079 So the women get the jewelry, the men get the 694 00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:02.119 guns and the AMMO. 695 00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:03.599 So let's hear about the special. 696 00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:03.839 We're doing here. 697 00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:06.240 Yeah, we guys, we got you covered on this one. 698 00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:09.519 A lot of if you love hunting, even if you 699 00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:12.640 don't love hunting, you can get a handgun. I mean, 700 00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:15.000 if you like guns or if you just like loove 701 00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:17.559 camp or camping. We actually have good story from Smith 702 00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:19.359 and Edwards. So the way it works is, if you 703 00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:21.920 come into our store and spend twenty five hundred dollars, 704 00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:24.920 you'll get a five hundred dollars voucher to Smith and Edwards. 705 00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:28.839 You can spend it on guns, ammo or anything related 706 00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:31.680 to Smith and Edwards, which is basically everything. 707 00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:31.960 Under the sun. 708 00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:32.240 Sure. 709 00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:34.920 Yeah, it's a big store and for you big spenders 710 00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:37.079 out there, if you spend five thousand dollars here, you'll 711 00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:40.079 get a thousand dollars voucher to Smith and Edwards. 712 00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:42.640 So twenty five hundred dollars purchase gets you five hundred 713 00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:45.839 dollars to Smith and Edwards. A five thousand dollars purchase 714 00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:47.240 gets you one thousand dollars to Smith. 715 00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:49.160 Yep, and potentially out of the doghouse. 716 00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:49.359 Too. 717 00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:52.759 Good call, good call, that's right. That's right. If you 718 00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:55.720 are he's currently in a situation with your nick and 719 00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:58.240 a significant other that you need to make a purchase 720 00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:01.279 to make her happy and also make yourself happy, Today's 721 00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:01.880 the day to do that. 722 00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:04.440 Yep, all right, Joe, So I asked Sitty about this. 723 00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:06.119 I want you to I want to bring back this 724 00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:09.519 diamonds that I saw when I walked in and I 725 00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:10.960 looked at him like, that's got to be a sixty 726 00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:14.960 thousand dollars diamond, but it was about five thousand change. 727 00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:18.119 So you know, if you're a young man looking to 728 00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:21.720 potentially propose to your fiance and you want her to 729 00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:24.039 wear something where she's bragging around around town, that's the 730 00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:25.000 diamond to get, isn't it. 731 00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:27.599 Yeah, I'm yeah, you're talking about a lab created diamond. 732 00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:31.640 Lab created diamonds have totally changed the jewelry industry, just 733 00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:34.240 flipped it on its head because you're able to get 734 00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:37.920 huge diamonds. I mean, it's it's unreal. Young kids these 735 00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:40.960 days are walking around with one, two, three carrot diamonds 736 00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:42.839 on their finger and it's commonplace. 737 00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:43.519 Now. 738 00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:46.359 I just want to know, we do sell your genuine 739 00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:50.279 mind natural mind diamond Yeah, we also sell lab created diamonds, 740 00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:55.000 and we sell way more lab created diamonds than natural 741 00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:57.440 mind diamonds, just because the value is amazing. 742 00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:00.559 All right, So outside of I mean the rings everywhere, 743 00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:02.839 that's what you first noticed, you know, the engagement rings, 744 00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:05.079 the diamond rings. What are some other products that you 745 00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:06.599 guys sell her in the store you want our listeners 746 00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:07.079 to know about. 747 00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:09.760 Yeah, we have our own line, our own unique line 748 00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:12.639 diamond or engagement rings that we sell. We call it 749 00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:15.119 the Belliston Love Collection. And we call it the Love 750 00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:17.719 Collection because when you look closely at a ring, there's 751 00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:21.119 always a little hole underneath each diamond. Well, our holes 752 00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:24.239 are heart shaped holes. I've never seen anyone else do that. 753 00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:27.000 I've been a jewelry designer, a CAD jewelry designer for 754 00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:30.079 seventeen years. That's my personal touch on it. And we 755 00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:31.760 have those on our Belliston Love Collection. 756 00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:32.199 Love it. 757 00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:32.760 I love that. 758 00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:33.039 Man. 759 00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:34.519 That's great. So it's Belliston Jewelry. 760 00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:36.960 It's family owned. It's one one five five thirty sixth 761 00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:39.519 Street right here in Ogden, Blinging Boom. 762 00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:39.880 Today. 763 00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:41.719 With a twenty five hundred dollars purchase, you get a 764 00:34:41.719 --> 00:34:44.159 five hundred dollars gift card at Smith and Edwards. Five 765 00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:46.440 hundred dollars purchase gets you a thousand dollars gift card 766 00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:48.960 at Smith and Edwards. We're also giving away fan X 767 00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:53.360 tickets Usavers Canada hockey tickets, My Goodness, Dynamite and Rampage 768 00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:56.840 tickets as well. Belliston Jewelry, one one five five thirty 769 00:34:56.880 --> 00:34:57.960 sixth Street here in Ogden. 770 00:34:58.000 --> 00:34:59.679 Joe, Thanks man, Welcome, thank you. 771 00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:01.719 Coming up on the other side, we'll move over to 772 00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:05.199 Matt Brown from Extra Points some college football, well basically 773 00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:08.000 the rest of the show college football. Matt Brown, Scott Mitchell, 774 00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:10.440 Bill Riley, got you taking care of on a Tuesday. 775 00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:14.320 I we're live today Bellist Jewelry up here in Ogden. 776 00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:17.400 Want to see all my Northern Utah people today. It's 777 00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:21.079 one one five five thirty sixth streets. Just put that 778 00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:23.159 address in your GPS and then roll up. That's the 779 00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:25.880 easiest thing to do. We're north Ogden. It's one one 780 00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:29.199 five five thirty sixth Street right here in Ogden. It's 781 00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:32.039 Belliston Jewelry. We're giving away fan X tickets. We have 782 00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:36.480 us AVERSUS Canada hockey tickets, Dynamite and Rampage tickets. 783 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:37.519 We've got a bunch of giveaways. 784 00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:40.760 We've got some ute swag bags, some ESPN seven hundred 785 00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:41.360 tote bags. 786 00:35:41.400 --> 00:35:42.199 All you could want. 787 00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.639 Our next guest on a Tuesday afternoon, Matt Brown, Matt 788 00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:46.360 Happy Tuesday. 789 00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:48.320 Do you want me to send you an ESPN seven 790 00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:49.159 hundred tote bag. 791 00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:53.760 Well, you know, I think I'm probably good in the 792 00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:57.639 toepak department, but I'm I'm about to actually buy tickets 793 00:35:57.639 --> 00:35:58.679 to come out to your neck of the. 794 00:35:58.639 --> 00:35:59.599 Woods in October. 795 00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:03.079 Maybe it's going by and said you some postage. 796 00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:05.599 Please do and then Roland Studio if you're available, what 797 00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:07.039 brings you out in our direction? 798 00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:10.719 I am going to I'm going to do a story 799 00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:14.800 about your rivals to the South that I think is 800 00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:18.079 a very different kind of story than you would probably 801 00:36:18.119 --> 00:36:21.840 get in local media. I've got a credential or going 802 00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:23.920 to be getting a credential for the era people you 803 00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:26.159 Arizona game. But I'm going to try to be out 804 00:36:26.159 --> 00:36:28.320 in Utah for probably four or five days ahead of 805 00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:30.159 time because there's a lot of people I want to 806 00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:30.360 talk to. 807 00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:31.199 I'm I'm gonna go. 808 00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:33.320 I'm going to make that stretch. The weather's probably gonna 809 00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:35.039 be nicer out here if it is in Chicago, so 810 00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:36.599 I'll try to come by and say. 811 00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:38.159 Hello, Yeah, that'd be great. 812 00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:40.639 We'd love to have you in studio right downtown Salt Lake. 813 00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:42.800 So yeah, that'll be fun to have you out this way. 814 00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:44.400 All right, A lot to do? 815 00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:46.920 Where to start? Where to start. Okay, let's start here. 816 00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:49.920 The PAC twelve is the PAC twelve is back question mark. 817 00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:52.400 I mean, I don't really know what to. 818 00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:52.719 Make of it. 819 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:54.840 I kind of feel bad for our friends up north 820 00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:57.760 as far as the Utah State aggies go. But since 821 00:36:57.800 --> 00:36:59.960 you and I last spoke, the PAC twelve has made 822 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:03.039 some additions. So your thoughts on what has happened, Matt 823 00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:04.840 and what you think will happen next? 824 00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:08.400 It was I don't mind admitting that this was a 825 00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:09.880 surprising development to me. 826 00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:12.599 I had talked to a couple of people in. 827 00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:16.559 Those Mountain West leagues, the Mountain West schools, you know, 828 00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:20.079 before the football season started, and while this scenario was 829 00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:24.000 certainly on the table, the expectation then was this is 830 00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:26.960 probably a kind of thing that happens after football or 831 00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:30.559 near the end of football. But because the way negotiations 832 00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:33.599 broke down over extending that scheduling arrangement, looks like the 833 00:37:33.639 --> 00:37:36.199 whole deal kind of happened in four or five days, 834 00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:39.519 which I think you can do. When you know, Boise 835 00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:41.440 and San Diego State have applied to the PAC twelve 836 00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:43.119 what four times probably in. 837 00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:43.800 The last decade. 838 00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:46.480 It's not like it's difficult for everybody to get those 839 00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:48.880 pitch decks, and when you're a league of only two people, 840 00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:53.239 you can move a little bit faster. I am happy 841 00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:57.320 that that branding in that league tradition can continue. I'm 842 00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:01.159 not right now certain as how much. I don't mean 843 00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:02.920 it's going to come across like I think more harsh 844 00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:04.840 than I needed to, but how much any of it 845 00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:08.440 really matters, because I don't know if the PAC twelve 846 00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:11.440 with its six teams and depending on who they end 847 00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:13.639 up adding to get to eight or ten, I don't 848 00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:15.679 know if that's head and shoulders better than any of 849 00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:19.840 the other non power leagues at the moment. I don't 850 00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:22.760 know how good of a basketball league it really makes you. 851 00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:25.360 And it seems like a use of a lot of 852 00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:27.079 money in the Mount westkin use a lot of money 853 00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:31.320 here too, to kind of shuffle teams around and hope 854 00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:33.840 that maybe three out of every ten years they get 855 00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:35.880 a team in the college football playoffs or they get 856 00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:38.559 a slightly better first round basketball seed. 857 00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:40.920 I don't know if that's the best use for. 858 00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:42.760 One hundred and fifty million dollars or whatever this ends 859 00:38:42.840 --> 00:38:44.800 up being. But that's why I write a newsletter and 860 00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:45.280 don't run a. 861 00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:46.840 Conference fair enough. 862 00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:51.280 So as far as the schools, there's a Memphis report, 863 00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:55.559 it feels like UNLV is obvious to get Vegas. Your 864 00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:57.440 thoughts because they have to get to eight, as you know, 865 00:38:57.719 --> 00:38:59.719 So who do you think they add, Matt Which schools 866 00:38:59.760 --> 00:38:59.960 do you think? 867 00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:00.360 Dad? 868 00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:03.239 Yeah? So what I had been told is that those 869 00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:05.800 six want to get in the central time zone at 870 00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:09.440 Memphis and Tulane, and they already hired consulting companies well before 871 00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:13.400 last week happened. My understanding is Rice has kicked the 872 00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:15.840 Pires on trying to be in this kind of conversation. 873 00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:19.840 I imagine there'll be other institutions too, but the appeal 874 00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:23.000 for Memphis and Tulane is more about market and more 875 00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:26.639 about recruiting territory than it is about academic branding or 876 00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:29.199 any of those other things. And I don't expect this 877 00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:33.639 league to get beyond ten. If I understand what people 878 00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:35.599 point to Vegas and think, well, of course they're going 879 00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:38.079 to take you in lv U and LV football has 880 00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:42.480 been non atrocious for a season and a half essentially, 881 00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:45.320 And I don't think that anybody in the PAC Poll 882 00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:47.599 thinks they need to add this team to get into Vegas. 883 00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:50.199 They already can host events in Vegas. They've already had 884 00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:53.559 the basketball tournament there for a while. They can if 885 00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:55.719 they if they don't need you in LV one way 886 00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:58.199 or the other to potentially have an event at the 887 00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:01.639 Raider Stadium or anything. And you now the political situation 888 00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:04.920 with Nevada with the university regents not wanting to split 889 00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:09.039 that system like what happened with the UC's and what's 890 00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:12.760 been codified into law in a couple of different states, 891 00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:15.880 so one thing that they can't get UNLV, but that 892 00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:19.159 gets messier, And really, not to be a jerk, but 893 00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:21.360 I just don't see a difference between any of the 894 00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:22.880 other Mountain West institutions. 895 00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:25.280 Do you want to holler really hard for New Mexico 896 00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:26.079 or Utah. 897 00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:26.760 State or anybody else? 898 00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:29.559 I guess you can, but I don't know if if 899 00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:30.400 it matters that much. 900 00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:35.119 So since we are, well, I'm on remote up north today, 901 00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:38.360 so I'm actually about twenty five thirty miles away from Logan. 902 00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:40.480 I'm not usually this close to Logan, but since we're 903 00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:43.280 in Utah, I will follow up. Even though I'm quite 904 00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:46.360 sure I know the answer. How many pegs have to 905 00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:50.360 fall before Utah State would potentially be a PAC twelve option, 906 00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:53.960 any thought, any chance the Aggies could get that phone call. 907 00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:59.039 You know, I have not heard from any consultant or 908 00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:04.199 lawyer or dot edu email addressed person mentioned Utah State, 909 00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:07.480 and I've heard I think probably seven or eight schools 910 00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:09.599 mentioned at this point, So that probably has. 911 00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:10.360 To give you that idea. 912 00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:11.639 Is it impossible? 913 00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:14.239 No, Utah State has. 914 00:41:14.199 --> 00:41:17.119 Some advantages in that they've actually been competent at sports, 915 00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:20.519 but there's a lot of off the field turboil happening 916 00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:23.239 with that university athletic department right now too. Probably not 917 00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:27.199 the ideal timing for a less than stable realignment situation. 918 00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:30.920 I would say it is difficult. 919 00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:32.719 For me to imagine a world where Utah State is 920 00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:36.119 invited and Memphis and Tulane joined this week too. I 921 00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:37.800 think there had to be a lot of other people 922 00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:40.840 to say no before that becomes a thing. 923 00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:43.679 Yeah, I'm gonna ask you an impossible question, what is 924 00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:46.519 the what does the future of college football look like 925 00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:49.599 for the Utah States of the world, And you know, 926 00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:53.480 the PAC twelve, the reinvented PAC twelve, I suppose is 927 00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:56.519 a safeish landing spot for those schools. And I'm sure 928 00:41:56.559 --> 00:41:58.000 a lot of the schools look at this as a 929 00:41:58.039 --> 00:41:59.320 step up in the right direction. 930 00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:02.320 But then you know, it's a feeder system obviously with 931 00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:03.559 the big two is what. 932 00:42:03.639 --> 00:42:05.599 It comes down to, and then the other two and 933 00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:08.519 you know, now we have this reinvented Mountain West Conference 934 00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:11.679 for schools like our friends up north, Matt, what's the 935 00:42:11.719 --> 00:42:13.400 future of college football look like for them? 936 00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:16.519 I think the one. I don't know if there's any 937 00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:18.840 comfort to our brothers and sisters and logan, but I 938 00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:22.079 would say that, you know, you have more experience with 939 00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:25.360 being passed over despite what you're doing on the football 940 00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:28.840 field than many other institutions right as I understand it. 941 00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:31.119 This happened before with the Whack, This's happened before with 942 00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:34.599 other you know, kind of pro do Mountain West conferences 943 00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:39.679 and Utah State found ways to exist, sometimes not great 944 00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:41.920 on the field, but we're still able to build programs. 945 00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:44.320 The other kind of elephant in the room here. 946 00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:47.000 Is I don't think any of us really know what 947 00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:48.280 anything looks. 948 00:42:48.119 --> 00:42:48.960 Like in five years. 949 00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:51.559 I don't think it's a guarantee, but there's even a 950 00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:54.639 Big ten or an SEC football in five years. We 951 00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:57.480 could have a world where the college football playoffs separates 952 00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:01.599 or because of employment rules, or because of revenue sharing 953 00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:04.159 or something else, there's some sort of separation, and some 954 00:43:04.280 --> 00:43:09.039 of these league affiliation deals become kind of academic. Whether 955 00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:11.440 Utah State has a PAC twelve or a Mountain West 956 00:43:11.559 --> 00:43:16.199 or a Conference USA or a Super Metro Conference insignia 957 00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:18.679 on their jersey, they're still on the wrong side of 958 00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:22.679 the cutoff line. We don't even know if Utah BYU 959 00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:25.559 are on the right side of that proverbial Champions League 960 00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:28.360 cut off line. That's that's a different conversation. So you 961 00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:29.960 might be able to tell yourself that doesn't matter. 962 00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:30.840 All you need to do is. 963 00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:35.239 Win and keep supporting your team and showing up and 964 00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:38.599 you know, buying drinks at Maverick and whatever you got 965 00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:40.840 to do to help keep the department afloat. And then 966 00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:43.039 you're not in control anyway. So whatever happens in three 967 00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:46.440 or four years is whatever happens, which I get is 968 00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:49.280 not a super comforting response, but I think that's the 969 00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:50.360 only honest one I can get. 970 00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:55.360 Oh, oh, madam Maverick joke for our friends and logans, Well, 971 00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:58.920 you have to know, maybe you do know this already. 972 00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:01.920 The reason why I'm not going to rebuke you for 973 00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:04.880 your Maverick. Joke is the best restaurant I've been told 974 00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:07.800 the best restaurant Logan, Utah is an Indian restaurant that's 975 00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:09.519 located inside of a Maverick. 976 00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:16.039 Oh. I would absolutely never be smirch gas station cuisine. 977 00:44:17.159 --> 00:44:18.519 This is I mean, this is one. This is that's 978 00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:19.920 a staple of the of the South. 979 00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:23.519 Like I I when I lived in Louisiana, I. 980 00:44:23.559 --> 00:44:26.079 Could think of lots of places in Louisiana, Mississippi where 981 00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:27.840 I went to where the best restaurant was inside a 982 00:44:27.880 --> 00:44:30.239 gas station and that restaurant was good as hell. Like 983 00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:34.039 that's not damning with state praise or anything. I enjoy 984 00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:36.719 Maverick as much as the next guy. And if it's 985 00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:40.000 helping that company's bottom line, helps free up some extra 986 00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:42.920 money to go for other sponsorship deals, you know, then 987 00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:45.360 then then do that. Like I'm not going to sit 988 00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:48.840 here and pretend like like Tyson's Chicken is some kind 989 00:44:48.840 --> 00:44:51.079 of gourmet masterpiece. But you know that's tied up with 990 00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:54.239 Arkansas And if you'd like the razorbacks, that's that's that's 991 00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:57.239 part of the deal. I I have actually never. 992 00:44:57.159 --> 00:44:57.679 Been to Logan. 993 00:44:57.679 --> 00:44:59.360 I don't I don't think I've been north of U 994 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:01.800 more than thirty miles north of Salt Lake. But if 995 00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:03.639 I find myself in the neighborhood, I would be more 996 00:45:03.679 --> 00:45:05.119 than happy to try. It sounds great. 997 00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:09.559 What I'd say is, don't put it on the bucket list. 998 00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:11.400 But you're run into the sweetest people. 999 00:45:11.159 --> 00:45:11.559 In the world. 1000 00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:13.960 You know, they're they're very kind up there, so. 1001 00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:16.679 We're cheering for them and hopefully they can find some 1002 00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:18.679 more stable footing. But let's move off of that, Matt. 1003 00:45:18.920 --> 00:45:23.000 And ultimately, when we last spoke, I believe I informed 1004 00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:25.119 you of a little chit chat I had with a 1005 00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:29.039 former ute, a former NFL player and now a former 1006 00:45:29.199 --> 00:45:31.519 assistant coach from Colorado, damed Trevor Riley. 1007 00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:34.599 And you know that interview got a lot of traction. 1008 00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:38.480 I'm told that he is currently with a pretty big 1009 00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:42.000 time writer telling him the story that eventually will come 1010 00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:44.840 out at some point. But you wrote on this for 1011 00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:47.800 extra points. What was your take on what Trevor had 1012 00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:51.199 to say? And kind of let's unpack the piece that 1013 00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:51.639 you wrote. 1014 00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:55.800 Yeah, I had this earlier this week after our conversation. 1015 00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:59.440 After listening to your interview, I filed some open records 1016 00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:02.880 requests because whenever you hear somebody say I have email 1017 00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:05.159 receipts to prove that I talked to Saudi Arabia about 1018 00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:08.679 football fundraising. You know, my little antenna on my reporter 1019 00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:10.559 brain perks up and go, well, I want a few 1020 00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:14.239 those receipts. So I did, and I got a copy 1021 00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:18.039 of the pitch deck that that Riley sent over to 1022 00:46:18.599 --> 00:46:21.440 visit Saudi dot com and a message that was sent 1023 00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:24.679 on Christmas Day of last year. I believe Trevor was 1024 00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:27.920 in Jordan at the time, not not in Salt Lake 1025 00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:31.480 or anywhere else. And you know, a couple of people 1026 00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:33.639 on the Internet kind of laughed at, oh my gosh, 1027 00:46:33.719 --> 00:46:36.599 this guy's trying to fundraise money by emailing ask at 1028 00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:37.760 visit Saudi dot. 1029 00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:39.280 Com, which is a little funny. 1030 00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:40.519 But I don't know if you've ever had to do 1031 00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:43.000 ad sales to radio station. I've done this for extra points. 1032 00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:45.760 Sometimes that's the best contact number to work with what 1033 00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:48.159 you got, And clearly it got in some kind of conversation, 1034 00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:52.800 I would say, based on the documents that I inspected, 1035 00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:56.159 and based on the full text of the resignation letter, 1036 00:46:56.280 --> 00:46:58.639 and based on some other conversations I have with people 1037 00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:03.159 around around Colorado. So I am not surprised that whatever 1038 00:47:03.239 --> 00:47:05.719 government agency of Saudi Arabia did not come through ten 1039 00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:09.239 million dollars to buy promotional Instagram posts on Travis Hunter's 1040 00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:13.639 Instagram page or Deion Sanders Junior's Instagram page. I think 1041 00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:16.320 we joked about it before, the idea that that this 1042 00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:19.199 gentleman had some connections to the three trillion dollars in 1043 00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:21.480 the Mormon community or whatever. I think we can have 1044 00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:23.039 a good laugh about that. I don't know if I 1045 00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:25.159 don't know if anyone was talking about liquidating a temple 1046 00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:29.679 to go pay the Colorado's NIL Fund or anything. I 1047 00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:31.719 there's a lot of information I still don't have. 1048 00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:32.119 I tried. 1049 00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:33.440 I tried to reach out to him. 1050 00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:35.159 I've I've there are other people I tried to reach 1051 00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:37.639 out to that I didn't want to talk, which is fine, 1052 00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:40.159 that's that's that's their business. Maybe we could talk more later. 1053 00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:41.000 Maybe that's uh. 1054 00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:44.679 Maybe it's Pete Daniel gets gets the gets the full look. 1055 00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:47.119 For me, it's more of just I don't. 1056 00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:51.079 Think this has ever happened anywhere before and uh, and certainly. 1057 00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:53.519 Not happened at this at this scale, and with somebody 1058 00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:57.039 whose job title doesn't say nil, which makes it, uh, 1059 00:47:57.559 --> 00:47:59.719 And this makes it, I think, really interesting and newsworthy. 1060 00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:05.360 So ultimately, let me follow up with this. 1061 00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:09.239 I mean, I love Trevor, but he's a lunatic and 1062 00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:11.119 I've said that to his face and I would again, 1063 00:48:11.519 --> 00:48:14.440 but he knows I love him. So I'm not saying 1064 00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:18.440 this is the first of several attempts to inspire the 1065 00:48:18.519 --> 00:48:22.199 Saudis to love college football. But I'm wondering if you 1066 00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:25.960 think this could be something potentially that is on the horizon. 1067 00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:27.639 I mean, we've heard a lot of private equity. 1068 00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:29.880 There's a big gap between private equity and Saudi money, 1069 00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:32.840 for sure, but Saudi's have already purchased pro golf, as 1070 00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:36.079 I talk about often, and they have their tentacles in 1071 00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:40.159 several different products like FS one and the Premiership and such. 1072 00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:43.760 Could college football be high speed ahead to taking some 1073 00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:46.079 of this dirty money to bridge the gap between the 1074 00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:47.000 haves and have nots. 1075 00:48:48.199 --> 00:48:50.880 You know, it's an interesting question, and I've tried to 1076 00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:54.000 do some actual reporting on this, and there's two things 1077 00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:56.320 that have been pointed out to me from people that 1078 00:48:56.400 --> 00:48:59.239 work in private equity and people that work in institutional fundraising. 1079 00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:04.000 Is really over the last six months, it's been much 1080 00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:07.760 harder for North American and Western European investors to get 1081 00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:10.599 money out of Saudi Arabia. The folks that are running 1082 00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:12.880 the p i s, based on how things have changed globally, 1083 00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:18.840 are generally more interested in doing domestic infrastructure deals than 1084 00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:21.679 they are with international I P. I mean, that's not 1085 00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:24.119 to say that they wouldn't talk to the NBA, or 1086 00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:27.360 they wouldn't talk to uh, you know, International Track or 1087 00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:30.159 or something else that came up there, but it's it's 1088 00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:34.400 it's a more conservative lending market with that's fun than 1089 00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:36.280 it might have been a year or two ago. So 1090 00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:38.920 it's gonna be harder to get any money, let alone 1091 00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:42.079 spectus of college football money. The other the other challenge, 1092 00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:45.000 and I'm not saying that this is that this is impossible, 1093 00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:48.559 but it is a different thing here. You some you 1094 00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:52.440 if you're a public institution or a registered nonprofit and 1095 00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:58.000 you're trying to fundraise with the arm of a foreign government, 1096 00:49:58.679 --> 00:50:01.920 there's a litany of other regulations you have to follow, right, 1097 00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:04.519 you may have to be even registered as like a 1098 00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:08.239 foreign agent. It's a little bit different than if you're 1099 00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:10.880 trying to go to the Saudi equivalent of Chase bank 1100 00:50:11.559 --> 00:50:14.480 or someone that's not specifically tied to the royal family. 1101 00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:17.960 And if you're a nonprofit or if you're an arm 1102 00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:20.679 of the state, you might not want to deal with 1103 00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:22.960 that political headache. It's a little bit easier if you're 1104 00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:26.920 a private institution or or a completely separate wing to 1105 00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:29.880 potentially take that. So I think for a school like Colorado, 1106 00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:32.760 or a school like Utah, or a school like Texas 1107 00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:36.440 Tech or Wyoming or Utah State, I think this would 1108 00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:38.920 be very, very difficult to do, and there's going to 1109 00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:41.199 be cheaper, easier way for you to raise that money. 1110 00:50:41.559 --> 00:50:47.519 Could Baylor do it? I mean maybe, but again I 1111 00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:49.519 don't think the juice is worth a squeeze right now. 1112 00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:54.320 All right, A couple of interesting pieces of news dropped 1113 00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:57.079 in the NIL space earlier, So I was glad to 1114 00:50:57.119 --> 00:50:59.400 see you on the rundown when my producer sent it over. 1115 00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:03.119 So Brian Kemp, the Governor of Georgia, has signed an 1116 00:51:03.239 --> 00:51:06.719 order that prohibits the nc double A or athletic conferences 1117 00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:10.639 from punishing any university or college in Georgia for quote, 1118 00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:15.280 offering compensation or compensating an intercollegiate student athlete for the 1119 00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:18.480 use of such student athletes NIL. Even though the house 1120 00:51:18.679 --> 00:51:20.880 thing is still kind of out there, the NC double 1121 00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:24.679 A still prohibit schools from directly paid athletes for the 1122 00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:26.679 rights to use their name, image, and likeness. 1123 00:51:26.719 --> 00:51:27.519 That's still in place. 1124 00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:30.360 What does this signal to you, Matt, this order that 1125 00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:32.079 was signed earlier today by Brian Kemp. 1126 00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:34.880 I think it signals more that Brian Camp thinks it's 1127 00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:38.119 politically expedious to wave his middle finger at the NC 1128 00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:41.639 double A, and that somebody in Kirby Smart's office, you know, 1129 00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:45.920 had his ear campus has been quick to charge to 1130 00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:48.599 make sure that Georgia has everything that they need. It's 1131 00:51:48.920 --> 00:51:52.119 part of why the guy has the nickname Governor Kirby 1132 00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:56.880 Smart locally for this kind of thing. So I'm not surprised. 1133 00:51:57.039 --> 00:52:00.519 I don't think it really changes anything. The NCAA has 1134 00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:03.800 already signaled that they're not going to pursue any NIL 1135 00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:08.119 investigations or enforcement actions right now while they're waiting for 1136 00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:13.199 state lawsuits from Tennessee and Virginia to finish going through appeals. 1137 00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:16.800 So there's that doesn't really change. The NCAA is not 1138 00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:18.760 going to really do anything, and as a result of 1139 00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:22.800 this order, Georgia isn't going to immediately begin to proactively 1140 00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:25.079 do revenue sharing because they want to wait to see 1141 00:52:25.119 --> 00:52:28.519 what happens with House. And maybe three or four weeks 1142 00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:30.599 ago that looked like more of a sure thing than 1143 00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:33.079 it is now now that that's very much an open question. 1144 00:52:33.719 --> 00:52:37.000 But there's not many political pinatas that are easier to 1145 00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:39.280 kind of hammer than the NC double A. And I 1146 00:52:39.280 --> 00:52:42.800 wouldn't be shocked to see more Southern, particularly Southern governors, 1147 00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:45.559 do something similar because it gets you some friendly gets 1148 00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:47.599 you some friendly headlines, and no one's gonna achieve. No 1149 00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:49.039 one's gonna stick up for the NC double A. 1150 00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:53.840 So last time you hopped on, we talked about I 1151 00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:56.880 want to remember your phrase. I think it was down 1152 00:52:57.000 --> 00:53:01.119 or fatigue, if I remember correctly, and some news came 1153 00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:04.159 down actually a year or so ago. I was just 1154 00:53:04.360 --> 00:53:08.360 pontificating on possibilities of what it would look like when 1155 00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:11.719 these athletic departments had more cart blanche to start asking 1156 00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:15.760 their communities for more money, or just implementing things that 1157 00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:18.320 forces you to pay more money even if you don't 1158 00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:22.599 want to. And Tennessee steps forward today to increase ticket 1159 00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:26.440 prices by ten percent to help their nil endeavors. I'll 1160 00:53:26.440 --> 00:53:28.280 ask you the same question I asked about the bill 1161 00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:30.159 signed in by Governor Kemp. 1162 00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:31.920 Is this the beginning of a trend? 1163 00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:35.760 Should college football fans and folks in college football communities 1164 00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:38.800 who love to go to games expect their fees to 1165 00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:41.320 be jacked up whether they like it or not, in 1166 00:53:41.440 --> 00:53:43.880 order to start paying some of these players. 1167 00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:46.559 Probably in many markets. 1168 00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:48.199 And I do think it sucks. 1169 00:53:48.400 --> 00:53:51.199 And there's a calculated bet here that Tennessee is making 1170 00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:54.760 that demand for volunteer football tickets is going to be 1171 00:53:54.920 --> 00:53:58.360 so high, given that Tennessee is now a regular top 1172 00:53:58.480 --> 00:54:03.000 ten caliber program compete playoff spots, that the demand won't 1173 00:54:03.039 --> 00:54:06.280 be impacted if they jack up prices. Actually, I think 1174 00:54:06.280 --> 00:54:08.480 I want to say they increased up by over fourteen percent, 1175 00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:10.559 and they said that ten percent is part of this 1176 00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:13.119 new talent fee. They're going to use the other money 1177 00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:15.480 for something else, and they can get away with it. 1178 00:54:16.599 --> 00:54:20.320 I think the youths probably could increase ticket prices and 1179 00:54:21.079 --> 00:54:22.880 put it all on saying we got to go to 1180 00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:26.360 talent because demand is high enough that they wouldn't face 1181 00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:29.320 the significant penalty. But not a lot of schools in 1182 00:54:29.519 --> 00:54:32.960 FBS can get away with that without starting to now 1183 00:54:33.039 --> 00:54:36.840 struggle to sell sell some tickets. And I don't blame 1184 00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:40.800 anybody for reading this Senus News and being really frustrated, 1185 00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:42.880 because what we've seen over the last really two or 1186 00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:46.840 three years with nil and running collectives with some exceptions, 1187 00:54:47.559 --> 00:54:50.039 is there's a lot of people making eight hundred thousand 1188 00:54:50.039 --> 00:54:54.920 dollars ads asking people that make eighty thousand dollars fans 1189 00:54:55.159 --> 00:54:58.480 to contribute even more money to pay athletes eight hundred 1190 00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:03.199 grands and coaches eight millions. And I think it doesn't 1191 00:55:03.239 --> 00:55:06.400 take long, especially when when gas becomes more expensive and 1192 00:55:06.440 --> 00:55:09.079 everyone's having to pitch pennies to say, but this math 1193 00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:11.920 doesn't make sense. The Bears don't do this, The Utah 1194 00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:14.480 Hockey Club doesn't do this, the Jazz don't do this. 1195 00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:19.599 They they might raise prices, but they're not going to say, well, 1196 00:55:19.639 --> 00:55:22.320 we just gave Laura an extension and so we everyone 1197 00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:25.880 go pay me another eight bucks. I think people people 1198 00:55:25.880 --> 00:55:28.400 would laugh at that. Any department that's going to try this, 1199 00:55:29.360 --> 00:55:32.639 I think will lose credibility with their fan base if 1200 00:55:32.679 --> 00:55:36.599 they don't pair that announcement with concrete examples of and 1201 00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:39.119 this is what we're doing to save money. This is 1202 00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:41.719 what we're gonna not spend money on this. These are 1203 00:55:41.719 --> 00:55:44.480 what we're making cuts. Here's time, we're making changes, and 1204 00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:46.559 now we're asking you to help kind kind of still 1205 00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:48.079 in the gaps if you're trying to run your appolic 1206 00:55:48.159 --> 00:55:51.320 department exactly the way you did before revenue sharing, and 1207 00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:53.480 just gonna expect that your fans are going to pay 1208 00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:56.599 an extra twenty something million dollars. I think a lot 1209 00:55:56.679 --> 00:55:59.079 of people will find themselves are rude awakening. 1210 00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:02.159 All right, switching gears real quick because I wanted to, 1211 00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:04.679 and I'm genuinely just curious. I think you're gonna be 1212 00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:08.079 really good with this because obviously we're in the Big 1213 00:56:08.119 --> 00:56:10.960 twelve footprint now and BYU was a year ago, but 1214 00:56:11.159 --> 00:56:12.320 Utah has joined them. 1215 00:56:13.039 --> 00:56:15.960 And look, it's not the Big ten, it's not the SEC. 1216 00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:16.679 We know the deal. 1217 00:56:16.840 --> 00:56:18.880 And ESPN Fox whoever it is. 1218 00:56:19.039 --> 00:56:22.079 Their job is to put the best TV show on 1219 00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:24.159 their TV station so you watch and. 1220 00:56:24.239 --> 00:56:25.559 They can charge for more AD spend. 1221 00:56:25.639 --> 00:56:28.360 I get the deal. But in two weeks, Matt, we 1222 00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:32.800 have one kicktime for the Big twelve Arizona Utah eight 1223 00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:36.280 point fifteen. It's a late kickout here for ESPN. None 1224 00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:38.000 of the other Big twelve games, and. 1225 00:56:38.039 --> 00:56:40.840 There are six of them outside of Utah, so they're 1226 00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:41.719 seven that day. 1227 00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:45.800 None of the other Big twelve teams have kicktimes, and 1228 00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:49.519 we don't know the TV state. It's in two weeks. 1229 00:56:50.119 --> 00:56:51.960 It's not in a month and a half, it's in 1230 00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:54.159 two weeks. Can you walk us through why. 1231 00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:55.320 This is the way that it is? 1232 00:56:57.239 --> 00:57:00.239 As I understand it. Part of this is because because 1233 00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:03.679 there's I want to say, there's like a literal draft 1234 00:57:04.599 --> 00:57:06.719 between ESDN and Fox to see who gets you know 1235 00:57:06.800 --> 00:57:10.559 what games where where they have they kind of share 1236 00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:13.079 custody for for some of these rights, and there's there's 1237 00:57:13.079 --> 00:57:16.079 a lot of horse trading and in a league where 1238 00:57:16.199 --> 00:57:19.679 there is so much parody, Uh, what what? 1239 00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:19.880 What? 1240 00:57:20.039 --> 00:57:21.920 What the broadcast networks don't want to do is set 1241 00:57:21.960 --> 00:57:26.559 a TV time six weeks in advance. Using Arizona as 1242 00:57:26.599 --> 00:57:28.679 an example, Right, came in there as a as a 1243 00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:33.880 preseason uh, legitimate candidate to win this conference. Uh, somebody 1244 00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:35.760 who is expected to certainly be in the top three 1245 00:57:35.880 --> 00:57:37.920 to play the first game against Kannadas State, they get 1246 00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:38.599 they get whacked. 1247 00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:39.199 Right? 1248 00:57:39.599 --> 00:57:42.400 Is it possible that in three weeks Arizona is now 1249 00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:45.000 a non entity in the Big Twelve race? And that 1250 00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:48.000 their fans begin to check out. Yeah, that's that's that's 1251 00:57:48.000 --> 00:57:50.280 certainly possible. Then you don't want to have made a 1252 00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:53.440 huge commitment to putting the Wildcats in prime time, especially 1253 00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:56.800 because maybe UCS, maybe Arizona State, who I don't know 1254 00:57:56.800 --> 00:57:58.719 about you I thought was going to be got awful 1255 00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:02.159 and now looks very common, or somebody else moves up. 1256 00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:07.000 So because you don't have these blue, blue blood national 1257 00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:11.199 brands in this conference, with the exception of Deon Sanders 1258 00:58:11.280 --> 00:58:14.800 Colorado football for maybe one or two more weeks, that 1259 00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:19.199 that's gonna lead to some more instability and unpredictability and 1260 00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:20.920 someone that's gonna be good. Some of that makes for 1261 00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:23.320 exciting television, that's gonna make a lot of these games 1262 00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:25.639 matter more. And some of that means you're not gonna 1263 00:58:25.639 --> 00:58:27.880 be marketed the same way and and you're gonna you're 1264 00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:29.400 gonna have to wait a little bit longer for some 1265 00:58:29.440 --> 00:58:32.159 of these schedules to still out, which I understand is 1266 00:58:32.199 --> 00:58:36.039 frustrating but at least could correct me if I'm wrong. 1267 00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:38.280 I don't believe Utah has any games this year on 1268 00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:40.760 the PAC twelve networks, So that is I think a 1269 00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:42.000 positive step in the right direction. 1270 00:58:42.599 --> 00:58:45.559 Well played. Hey before I said you lose, I am 1271 00:58:46.159 --> 00:58:47.000 disappointed in you. 1272 00:58:47.079 --> 00:58:49.760 Matt getting get in line, brother? 1273 00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:52.920 How did I do this time? Okay, so just last 1274 00:58:53.039 --> 00:58:55.480 night we had to kick our friend off our techt 1275 00:58:55.519 --> 00:58:59.119 thread who has an Android because we just we just 1276 00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:01.320 sew over it and so we kicked him off. I've 1277 00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:03.280 known him twenty five years. I met him in college. 1278 00:59:03.880 --> 00:59:06.440 You are that guy on the text thread where it 1279 00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:08.519 comes up as green and you ruined all of our days. 1280 00:59:08.519 --> 00:59:09.519 I didn't know this about you. 1281 00:59:10.119 --> 00:59:13.719 Well, I just literally switched yesterday and part of the 1282 00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:16.880 same thing, like I'm in like a group chat with 1283 00:59:16.920 --> 00:59:19.559 a bunch of other national college football people, and that 1284 00:59:19.719 --> 00:59:21.360 was kind of the running joke was like I can't 1285 00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:23.480 believe MAT's so poor that he can't have an iPhone 1286 00:59:23.480 --> 00:59:25.440 and he has to have this weird bubble and like, 1287 00:59:25.519 --> 00:59:27.360 I guess we all have to subscribe to extra points 1288 00:59:27.400 --> 00:59:30.519 out of out of charity cases here. And it's funny 1289 00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:33.400 because I think literally as I got home with the 1290 00:59:33.519 --> 00:59:38.039 new iPhone or a new iPhone that I think was 1291 00:59:38.079 --> 00:59:40.480 Apple released, that they made an adjustment to their app. 1292 00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:44.360 So now texting with Android users is easier. I don't 1293 00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:47.320 know I'm still working my way through relearning how to 1294 00:59:47.400 --> 00:59:49.199 do everything on the iPhone. I feel like a seventy 1295 00:59:49.280 --> 00:59:51.639 year old man, you know, trying to retype in all 1296 00:59:51.679 --> 00:59:56.440 my passwords and redownload stuff. But slowly, but surely, I'm 1297 00:59:56.440 --> 00:59:59.440 being we welcomed into group chats across the country, which 1298 00:59:59.440 --> 00:59:59.880 I appreciate. 1299 01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:02.000 That's hey, we're going to a concert tonight. He doesn't 1300 01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:04.599 know about it, Matt, So welcome back to the real world, Buddy. 1301 01:00:05.079 --> 01:00:06.800 Tell people where they can go find your work before 1302 01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:08.360 I say you loose you bet. 1303 01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:10.719 Friends, If you enjoy stories about the office field, stuff 1304 01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:13.519 that shapes college athletics, you can find it at Extra 1305 01:00:13.639 --> 01:00:16.199 Points mb dot com. You can find me on Twitter, 1306 01:00:16.440 --> 01:00:18.920 or if I'm hanging out I'm procrastinating doing real work 1307 01:00:19.559 --> 01:00:20.719 at Matt brown EP. 1308 01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:24.119 All right, we're live today at Belliston Jewelry. It's one 1309 01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:27.519 one five five thirty sixth streets right here in Ogden. 1310 01:00:27.639 --> 01:00:29.400 Best thing to do is put that in your GPS 1311 01:00:29.480 --> 01:00:32.440 and just follow it. Look for the ESPN seven hundred van. 1312 01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:33.320 It's right out front. 1313 01:00:33.440 --> 01:00:36.639 It's eleven fifty five thirty sixth Street, right here in Ogden. 1314 01:00:36.719 --> 01:00:39.880 We have a bunch of giveaways giving away, free tickets 1315 01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:41.320 to fan X, free tickets to. 1316 01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:42.719 US Canada hockey. 1317 01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:45.559 Man, those are valuable. I might take those home Dynamite 1318 01:00:45.639 --> 01:00:50.719 and Rampage tickets as well. It's their Blingin' Boom Special. Porter. 1319 01:00:50.840 --> 01:00:53.360 This special feels like it's right up your alley. 1320 01:00:53.440 --> 01:00:55.719 Okay. So if you're in the market, I'm not. 1321 01:00:55.760 --> 01:00:57.199 Saying you are, But if you're in the market for 1322 01:00:57.280 --> 01:01:00.840 an engagement ring, they've got over two thousand different options. 1323 01:01:01.519 --> 01:01:03.239 And if you decide today's the day. 1324 01:01:03.400 --> 01:01:06.639 You spend twenty five hundred dollars on jewelry, you get 1325 01:01:06.639 --> 01:01:08.800 a five hundred dollars gift card to Smith and Edwards. 1326 01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:12.639 You you spend five thousand dollars on a jewelry purchase, 1327 01:01:12.679 --> 01:01:14.599 you get a thousand dollars gift card for Smith and 1328 01:01:14.719 --> 01:01:18.079 Edwards that they're Blinging Boom Special. She gets the jewelry, 1329 01:01:18.400 --> 01:01:20.000 you get the guns in the AMMO. I mean, we 1330 01:01:20.079 --> 01:01:22.039 might as well call this the Porter Larson Special. 1331 01:01:22.119 --> 01:01:24.480 Yeah, except I'm keeping the jewelry and the AMMO. 1332 01:01:24.760 --> 01:01:27.599 So that is that? Okay? 1333 01:01:27.960 --> 01:01:30.320 That's really selfish, man, that's really selfish. 1334 01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:33.320 I mean, it's a deal. I can take advantage of 1335 01:01:33.320 --> 01:01:33.960 a deal, can't I. 1336 01:01:35.199 --> 01:01:36.679 Well, you can you can if you like? 1337 01:01:37.199 --> 01:01:40.280 Okay, fine, So I guess it is the Porter Larson 1338 01:01:40.280 --> 01:01:42.760 Special because you get the jewelry and you get the 1339 01:01:42.840 --> 01:01:45.320 AMMO and you get the guns. No judgment here, no 1340 01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:48.440 judgment here, all right, Gonna bring in Scott Mitchell. 1341 01:01:48.639 --> 01:01:50.880 We also have Bill Riley joining the show. 1342 01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:54.280 So Scott former you quarterback on our broadcast now and 1343 01:01:54.400 --> 01:01:56.239 obviously Ryle's the voice of the utes. 1344 01:01:56.519 --> 01:01:58.840 So Porter, we talked about this to start the year. 1345 01:01:59.280 --> 01:02:02.199 Friend of the show question mark Britain Covey, let's start 1346 01:02:02.239 --> 01:02:04.679 there is Britain Covey still a friend of the show. 1347 01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:07.559 Yeah, Actually A messaged with Britt a little bit yesterday. 1348 01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:09.480 I think he's still a friend of the show. Okay, 1349 01:02:10.679 --> 01:02:14.000 guest of the show. I think in the somewhat near future. Yes, 1350 01:02:14.119 --> 01:02:18.920 but maybe we're shunning him or he's shunning us at 1351 01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:19.280 the moment. 1352 01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:22.920 Still a friend though, Oh he's definitely shunning us. 1353 01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:25.079 I mean he's been on the show multiple times. But 1354 01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:27.159 I know he was out in Utah for his golf 1355 01:02:27.199 --> 01:02:30.800 tournament because I helped him get a sponsor in exchange 1356 01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:31.639 for an hour in. 1357 01:02:31.679 --> 01:02:34.119 Studio and he just ghosted us, as the kids would say. 1358 01:02:34.519 --> 01:02:37.920 But there was this cool video that surfaced of the 1359 01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:42.280 Eagles training camp where a reporter asked Britain about playing 1360 01:02:42.320 --> 01:02:45.519 wide receiver and he gave a Britain Covey answer, you know, 1361 01:02:46.039 --> 01:02:49.119 as to why he uses his sizes at his advantage 1362 01:02:49.119 --> 01:02:52.320 and how he wants the opportunities to potentially get some 1363 01:02:52.440 --> 01:02:56.519 looks that way. And Philly last night was without look. 1364 01:02:56.559 --> 01:02:59.760 Demante Smith is good. They're number one receiver is AJ Brown. 1365 01:02:59.800 --> 01:03:01.159 Let's make no mistake about that. 1366 01:03:01.880 --> 01:03:02.440 And so as a. 1367 01:03:02.440 --> 01:03:05.880 Result of AJ Brown not playing last night, our guy, 1368 01:03:05.960 --> 01:03:10.400 Britain Covey had six targets, which is as many targets 1369 01:03:10.480 --> 01:03:13.599 and catches as he had prior to now. Twenty three yards. 1370 01:03:14.239 --> 01:03:17.239 His longest reception was nine yards. He almost had a touchdown. 1371 01:03:17.679 --> 01:03:19.400 But I thought that was pretty cool porter last night 1372 01:03:19.480 --> 01:03:22.360 seeing Britain Covey actually catch some passes from Jalen Hurts. 1373 01:03:22.440 --> 01:03:25.800 I mean, just getting reps split out wide or at 1374 01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:28.639 the slot is something that Britain has worked his entire 1375 01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:32.760 life to achieve. Of course, we've seen him lead the 1376 01:03:32.920 --> 01:03:36.199 NFL and punt returning now and be a productive and 1377 01:03:36.679 --> 01:03:40.639 efficient playmaker at that position. But to see him catching 1378 01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:44.239 passes from Jalen Hurts and as you mentioned, six catches 1379 01:03:44.360 --> 01:03:48.119 on six targets and at the time, probably the biggest 1380 01:03:48.199 --> 01:03:51.800 third down conversion of the night for the Eagles. It 1381 01:03:51.920 --> 01:03:54.840 was awesome to see and hopefully we see only more 1382 01:03:54.920 --> 01:03:58.400 of it as we go forward. We'll have to see 1383 01:03:58.400 --> 01:03:59.960 how that wide receiver room really plays out. 1384 01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:06.360 Vjon Robinson is awesome obviously Doak Walker Award winner at 1385 01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:10.760 University of Texas. So Tyler Al's year after his rookie year, 1386 01:04:10.800 --> 01:04:12.480 it looked like he might be the guy for them. 1387 01:04:12.519 --> 01:04:15.280 Well he's backing up Vijon Robinson, but he had a 1388 01:04:15.320 --> 01:04:18.199 couple of really strong series. Nine carries fifty three yards 1389 01:04:18.239 --> 01:04:20.760 for Tyler, including a fifteen yard first down run that 1390 01:04:20.920 --> 01:04:23.960 was big for them. And I was really impressed with Atlanta. 1391 01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:25.920 I mean, you know, you could do a lot better, 1392 01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:27.800 and you could do a lot worse than Kirk Cousins. 1393 01:04:28.519 --> 01:04:30.119 That game looked like it was gonna get loose, and 1394 01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:33.559 look for all the Philly panic today, and you know, 1395 01:04:33.760 --> 01:04:35.719 it really is such a great sports city. But there 1396 01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:39.119 are crazy people there about Nick Siriotti, Like, look, I 1397 01:04:39.199 --> 01:04:41.440 don't think he's one of the best coaches in pro football. 1398 01:04:41.599 --> 01:04:43.239 I think you could do better than Nick Sirianni. 1399 01:04:43.239 --> 01:04:45.400 But he did go to a Super Bowl and they 1400 01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:47.840 were a Saquon Barkley drop away from. 1401 01:04:47.719 --> 01:04:48.440 Winning that game. 1402 01:04:48.639 --> 01:04:52.039 So credited Atlanta. It's not an almost league, it's a 1403 01:04:52.079 --> 01:04:54.119 final score. You know, did you actually get out with 1404 01:04:54.199 --> 01:04:55.559 the win league? 1405 01:04:55.599 --> 01:04:55.960 For sure? 1406 01:04:56.039 --> 01:04:58.239 In that final drive by Kirk Cousins shows you why 1407 01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:01.320 a lot of people are very high on what Atlanta 1408 01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:03.639 is doing, not just with Kurt but the succession plan 1409 01:05:03.719 --> 01:05:04.440 of Penix. 1410 01:05:04.199 --> 01:05:06.800 Junior behind him. And it was a good win for them. 1411 01:05:06.840 --> 01:05:08.719 Now they lost to the Steelers week one. 1412 01:05:08.840 --> 01:05:11.000 A lot of people believe that's because, you know, the 1413 01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:13.719 Steelers DUOC is very familiar with Atlanta system. 1414 01:05:13.960 --> 01:05:14.320 I don't know. 1415 01:05:14.519 --> 01:05:17.400 I thought last night was a really really good football 1416 01:05:17.440 --> 01:05:19.519 game overall. Good to see some of the local boys 1417 01:05:19.599 --> 01:05:21.400 kind of going at it and getting some different type 1418 01:05:21.400 --> 01:05:24.480 of reps. As Pro football comes to a close for 1419 01:05:24.880 --> 01:05:28.079 Week two. All right, So some breaking news came down 1420 01:05:28.119 --> 01:05:29.960 in case you missed it. The Dolphins have placed two 1421 01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:33.440 a tongue of iloa on ir all right, So that 1422 01:05:33.599 --> 01:05:37.199 means he'll miss at least the next four games. Now, 1423 01:05:37.800 --> 01:05:41.719 we talked about this last week after kind of everything 1424 01:05:41.760 --> 01:05:43.519 went down, and I'll just kind of reiterate what I 1425 01:05:43.559 --> 01:05:46.360 had to say last week, and Porter, I don't think 1426 01:05:46.360 --> 01:05:47.880 I got your take on this, so let's dig into 1427 01:05:47.880 --> 01:05:51.679 it a little bit, you know. And I thought Robert Johnson, 1428 01:05:51.800 --> 01:05:54.639 former youthe safety played a number of years in pro football, 1429 01:05:54.760 --> 01:05:57.599 really put it well last week when he said he 1430 01:05:57.679 --> 01:05:59.280 thinks TUIs should probably walk away. 1431 01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:01.159 It's his fourth cushion in five years. 1432 01:06:01.920 --> 01:06:05.440 He had one in twenty nineteen Obama, and so it's 1433 01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:08.480 another situation where we're watching him play and suddenly the 1434 01:06:08.559 --> 01:06:12.079 hands start fancying. It looks horrible. It's my most unfavorite 1435 01:06:12.119 --> 01:06:17.159 thing about watching football's when that happens. Skyler Thompson's gonna 1436 01:06:17.159 --> 01:06:19.079 be the backup. He's gonna start on Seattle. But that's 1437 01:06:19.239 --> 01:06:22.719 not necessary. I mean, I would imagine, you know, Miami's 1438 01:06:22.760 --> 01:06:24.880 gonna look to make a trade, and maybe they trade 1439 01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:27.360 for Bryce Young, who was just benched in Carolaina. Our 1440 01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:31.360 guy Ben Solac kind of pontificated on that possibility. Tyler 1441 01:06:31.480 --> 01:06:37.239 Huntley has been signed to the practice squad from the Ravens, 1442 01:06:37.280 --> 01:06:38.239 so he'll be down there. 1443 01:06:38.559 --> 01:06:39.880 We'll see if Snoop can get a look. 1444 01:06:40.840 --> 01:06:43.360 I continue to be uncomfortable with the way this is covered, 1445 01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:47.440 and maybe it's just me. I don't think it's anybody's 1446 01:06:47.440 --> 01:06:48.880 place to tell two of that he has to stop 1447 01:06:48.920 --> 01:06:51.199 playing football at the age of twenty six years old. Now, 1448 01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:54.679 Rojo's point last week, which is well taken, is that 1449 01:06:54.760 --> 01:06:57.159 Tua has already secured the bag. I mean, the money's guaranteed. 1450 01:06:57.559 --> 01:06:59.800 I don't know what the situation would be with the 1451 01:07:00.559 --> 01:07:03.599 but my guess would be, with how familiar I am 1452 01:07:03.679 --> 01:07:06.440 with these contractual procedures and other sports and other leagues, 1453 01:07:06.519 --> 01:07:09.320 is that a medical retirement would mean to gets a 1454 01:07:10.039 --> 01:07:12.840 giant portion of what's coming to him. But he already 1455 01:07:12.840 --> 01:07:14.880 pocketed the signing bonus. I think he's already made a 1456 01:07:14.920 --> 01:07:17.360 grip of money. And he does have two children, he 1457 01:07:17.519 --> 01:07:20.960 is married. He does seem to be very thoughtful kid. 1458 01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:23.800 I've always liked his approach. I was a big fan 1459 01:07:23.880 --> 01:07:26.320 of his. During the draft process, everybody was on Burrow 1460 01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:28.440 over Tua. I'm not saying that was the wrong thing 1461 01:07:28.480 --> 01:07:30.880 to do. I just thought that gap was closer than 1462 01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:31.480 most people. 1463 01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:34.519 But ultimately it's just it's. 1464 01:07:34.400 --> 01:07:36.320 Hard to ask these guys to give this stuff up 1465 01:07:36.440 --> 01:07:39.400 when if he was healthy, you'd have another decade doing it. 1466 01:07:39.559 --> 01:07:41.239 But on the other side, if you already had the 1467 01:07:41.360 --> 01:07:44.760 generational wealth, and you know look called how it is, 1468 01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:47.320 you are doing what you do every day to try 1469 01:07:47.360 --> 01:07:50.079 to find a way for you and your family to 1470 01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:52.079 have a better life. You probably want to make more money. 1471 01:07:52.119 --> 01:07:53.880 You probably want to build a business. You probably want 1472 01:07:53.920 --> 01:07:56.599 to do something where you don't have to worry about 1473 01:07:56.639 --> 01:07:58.840 paying bills month a month. You can put some aside 1474 01:07:58.920 --> 01:08:01.159 to take care of your family and maybe leave some 1475 01:08:01.280 --> 01:08:03.559 behind for your children. And if suddenly, at the age 1476 01:08:03.559 --> 01:08:06.679 of twenty six, you had done that and your health 1477 01:08:06.840 --> 01:08:10.159 was compromised because of what you were doing, ask yourself 1478 01:08:10.199 --> 01:08:14.039 what you would do? Would you So let's say you're 1479 01:08:14.039 --> 01:08:18.640 an HVAC. You roll around, You're fixing heating and air conditioners. 1480 01:08:18.680 --> 01:08:21.439 You're working all day. You are grinding and grinding away 1481 01:08:22.079 --> 01:08:24.000 to make a living so you can pay your bills 1482 01:08:24.039 --> 01:08:24.600 and take care. 1483 01:08:24.479 --> 01:08:25.079 Of your family. 1484 01:08:25.800 --> 01:08:28.279 And suddenly, at the age of twenty six, you realize 1485 01:08:28.319 --> 01:08:31.199 you have more than enough for this lifetime and the 1486 01:08:31.279 --> 01:08:33.520 next four or five lifetimes if you invest the money 1487 01:08:33.560 --> 01:08:35.960 correctly and if you're careful with it, would you keep 1488 01:08:36.079 --> 01:08:38.319 doing what you were doing if it was compromising your health? 1489 01:08:38.399 --> 01:08:42.199 I think the easy answer is absolutely not right. As 1490 01:08:42.279 --> 01:08:44.479 I talked about last week, there is a thing with 1491 01:08:44.600 --> 01:08:45.039 these guys. 1492 01:08:45.039 --> 01:08:47.840 I mean, they are different. They're pro athletes are different. 1493 01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:48.039 Man. 1494 01:08:48.640 --> 01:08:50.239 I'm sure there are several. 1495 01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:54.239 People, including my producer, who at one point, including me, 1496 01:08:54.399 --> 01:08:57.439 at one point had a dream and a premonition of 1497 01:08:57.520 --> 01:09:00.439 one day being a professional athlete when you're young, and then. 1498 01:09:00.359 --> 01:09:01.720 You run into these pros. 1499 01:09:01.760 --> 01:09:04.039 And for me, it was sixteen years old out a 1500 01:09:04.079 --> 01:09:06.960 basketball camp when I ran into God Sham God. 1501 01:09:07.560 --> 01:09:12.359 At the time, you know, his situation was, he was 1502 01:09:12.399 --> 01:09:14.319 a Providence commit. 1503 01:09:14.439 --> 01:09:17.239 He was a junior out of the East Coast and 1504 01:09:17.760 --> 01:09:19.640 Sham God Wells was the name of the time. He's 1505 01:09:19.680 --> 01:09:22.359 now God Sham God the assistant coach of the Dallas Mavericks. 1506 01:09:22.399 --> 01:09:24.680 He was a rising junior who had committed to Providence, 1507 01:09:25.159 --> 01:09:26.800 and I thought I was a really good player. And 1508 01:09:27.159 --> 01:09:30.439 I realized then, like they're just built differently, they think differently, 1509 01:09:30.840 --> 01:09:34.399 they're wired differently. They're such a confluence of things that 1510 01:09:34.520 --> 01:09:36.520 I have to combine for them to ever cut a 1511 01:09:36.600 --> 01:09:39.359 paycheck doing what they do, and when they do that 1512 01:09:39.520 --> 01:09:41.479 for a number of years and they're successful at it, 1513 01:09:42.079 --> 01:09:44.760 it really becomes their identity, like it or not. 1514 01:09:44.960 --> 01:09:45.439 It just does. 1515 01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:48.319 And when they walk away from it oftentimes, as we 1516 01:09:48.439 --> 01:09:51.880 talked with Rojo about, it's tough, it's hard, you never 1517 01:09:52.039 --> 01:09:54.319 get that thing again. You know, a couple of weeks ago, 1518 01:09:55.079 --> 01:09:57.600 I think I was telling you I went in MC 1519 01:09:57.840 --> 01:10:01.079 the dinner for the two thousand and nine RSL MLS 1520 01:10:01.279 --> 01:10:04.600 championship team, and you have Kyle Beckerman, who was the 1521 01:10:04.680 --> 01:10:07.520 captain US men's national team player, a bunch of other 1522 01:10:07.560 --> 01:10:09.479 players as well, and then Jason Christ who joined the 1523 01:10:09.479 --> 01:10:12.319 show earlier. And these are two guys that are successful 1524 01:10:12.560 --> 01:10:15.800 in the second act of their careers, but when pressed, 1525 01:10:15.840 --> 01:10:18.439 they all say the same thing. Nothing that I will 1526 01:10:18.920 --> 01:10:21.680 nothing that I've done, and nothing that I will ever 1527 01:10:21.880 --> 01:10:24.520 do will ever make up for the feeling that I 1528 01:10:24.680 --> 01:10:27.840 had when I was playing, When I was in the arena, 1529 01:10:27.920 --> 01:10:29.359 when I was on the field, when I was on 1530 01:10:29.479 --> 01:10:32.640 the pitch, when I was on the court, it's just different. 1531 01:10:32.800 --> 01:10:37.119 So I'm not really landing on a spot one way 1532 01:10:37.199 --> 01:10:39.399 or the other here. I think it's just decent to 1533 01:10:39.479 --> 01:10:43.479 consider all options. Again, Tua, two kids, generational wealth, never 1534 01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:45.840 has to make another dime in his life. If you 1535 01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:47.439 were in that spot at the age of twenty six, 1536 01:10:47.520 --> 01:10:49.840 what would you do. I think most of us would 1537 01:10:49.840 --> 01:10:54.039 walk I really do. But the dynamic of achieving what 1538 01:10:54.279 --> 01:10:57.600 Tua has achieved in a space that is so coveted 1539 01:10:58.479 --> 01:11:01.000 and so hard. You know, there are a lot of 1540 01:11:01.079 --> 01:11:03.760 jobs we could all go get. This is one that 1541 01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:07.520 the point one one one percent or whatever it is, 1542 01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:10.840 point zero zero one percent of guys who try to 1543 01:11:10.920 --> 01:11:14.560 do what Tua tried to do actually accomplish, and then 1544 01:11:14.600 --> 01:11:15.920 you tell him it's time to walk away. 1545 01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:17.600 I think it's tough. 1546 01:11:17.680 --> 01:11:18.079 I really do. 1547 01:11:18.159 --> 01:11:18.880 I would understand. 1548 01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:20.479 I'm not offense sit or you guys know that if 1549 01:11:20.479 --> 01:11:22.039 you listen to the show, I think I would understand 1550 01:11:22.039 --> 01:11:24.560 both sides of this thing. I think Mike McDaniel has 1551 01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:29.560 guided them brilliantly through this entire situation, wanting more information 1552 01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:31.560 about the help before you even talk about it as 1553 01:11:31.600 --> 01:11:31.960 a player. 1554 01:11:32.479 --> 01:11:34.399 But Porter, before we catch your break, let me bring 1555 01:11:34.479 --> 01:11:36.159 you on, Let me bring you in on this. 1556 01:11:36.279 --> 01:11:39.199 So we now have the information that he will be 1557 01:11:39.319 --> 01:11:41.800 on the IR, meaning he misses at least four games, 1558 01:11:42.279 --> 01:11:44.640 and that certainly isn't as important as how he is 1559 01:11:44.760 --> 01:11:45.960 doing as a person. 1560 01:11:46.520 --> 01:11:47.800 But I haven't heard from you on the two of 1561 01:11:47.800 --> 01:11:49.119 stuff this week. Let me hear your take. 1562 01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:53.680 Well, it's it's such a complicated in difficult topic because 1563 01:11:53.680 --> 01:11:57.239 obviously all of us that love football and love the 1564 01:11:57.319 --> 01:12:02.319 sport understand the set facts and the you know, the 1565 01:12:02.920 --> 01:12:05.159 the developments that we've had in the last ten fifteen 1566 01:12:05.239 --> 01:12:08.520 years on what the sport does to the human body, 1567 01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:13.319 which is again not good. We can admit that we 1568 01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:16.039 can we can now discuss it openly and we know 1569 01:12:16.199 --> 01:12:19.479 how bad it can be. Right, We've seen the lives 1570 01:12:19.520 --> 01:12:23.279 of a football players end in horrific ways because of 1571 01:12:23.720 --> 01:12:27.880 and thanks in part because of the things that they 1572 01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:29.960 go through in their careers and the things that their 1573 01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:33.960 brains go through. So should to hang it up with 1574 01:12:34.520 --> 01:12:39.159 what seventy plus million dollars in the bank and everything 1575 01:12:39.279 --> 01:12:41.000 that he could ever want in front of him? 1576 01:12:41.600 --> 01:12:42.079 Probably? 1577 01:12:42.439 --> 01:12:45.800 But I just I just can never get myself, like 1578 01:12:45.920 --> 01:12:48.039 you were saying, to get to the point where I 1579 01:12:48.760 --> 01:12:54.119 tell someone or even really input my opinion on someone 1580 01:12:54.279 --> 01:12:58.319 else's life decision. Where Spence there or maybe now there 1581 01:12:58.359 --> 01:13:01.399 are thirty two starting quarterbacks NFL, but there are maybe 1582 01:13:01.520 --> 01:13:06.760 twenty five starting caliber NFL quarterbacks in the NFL out 1583 01:13:06.800 --> 01:13:09.840 of eight billion people on the planet. To get to 1584 01:13:09.960 --> 01:13:16.640 that point takes a talent, a work, a life long 1585 01:13:16.920 --> 01:13:20.920 dedication to get to where you are. That most of us, 1586 01:13:21.199 --> 01:13:24.600 the other eight million, don't even understand, don't even fathom, right, 1587 01:13:24.720 --> 01:13:28.640 So I struggle to tell someone that they should or 1588 01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:31.279 or you know, should move on or it's the right 1589 01:13:31.359 --> 01:13:33.880 thing for them, because hell, I don't know, Maybe two 1590 01:13:33.960 --> 01:13:37.079 of values being an NFL quarterback more than he values 1591 01:13:38.520 --> 01:13:40.600 being around when he's sixty or seventy. 1592 01:13:40.680 --> 01:13:41.039 I don't know. 1593 01:13:42.279 --> 01:13:45.560 Those are really difficult questions you can only answer if 1594 01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:48.119 you are that person. But I do think Spence, we 1595 01:13:48.319 --> 01:13:52.800 we have the I guess, the knowledge, the science, and 1596 01:13:53.880 --> 01:13:55.760 we know what his bank account looks like. That I 1597 01:13:55.800 --> 01:14:00.359 would say, I safely would would probably walk away if 1598 01:14:00.439 --> 01:14:00.760 that were me. 1599 01:14:01.319 --> 01:14:01.520 Yeah. 1600 01:14:01.600 --> 01:14:02.399 Man, that's a tough one. 1601 01:14:02.600 --> 01:14:04.359 Ultimately, it seems like such a good kid and a 1602 01:14:04.399 --> 01:14:06.800 great husband and great dad. But you know, we'll see 1603 01:14:06.840 --> 01:14:09.760 how it plays out, all right. Coming up during the 1604 01:14:09.880 --> 01:14:11.760 four o'clock hour of the show, you're gonna hear from 1605 01:14:11.800 --> 01:14:14.039 Scott Mitchell and then you're gonna hear from Bill Riley. 1606 01:14:14.079 --> 01:14:15.840 We got two hours down, We have two hours to go. 1607 01:14:16.640 --> 01:14:19.840 Reminder, tonight is the Kyle Whittingham Coaches Show, right after 1608 01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:22.079 we say good night at six o'clock, it'll be Bill, 1609 01:14:22.159 --> 01:14:25.239 It'll be Coach with a couple of you players looking 1610 01:14:25.319 --> 01:14:28.079 back on the Utah State win and looking ahead to 1611 01:14:28.239 --> 01:14:30.880 a big, big game on the road and still watered 1612 01:14:30.920 --> 01:14:34.039 against Okay State, So stay tuned for that. If you 1613 01:14:34.079 --> 01:14:36.439 miss Jason Christ from Matt Brown, good stuff today from 1614 01:14:36.479 --> 01:14:39.920 both RSL is back in action coming up Tomorro against 1615 01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:42.520 FC Dallas. It is such a massive match man So 1616 01:14:42.840 --> 01:14:46.319 America first field seven point thirty will be that kick time. 1617 01:14:46.680 --> 01:14:49.760 So if you miss Jaydaday, some good, very honest stuff. 1618 01:14:49.560 --> 01:14:52.439 On the current situation with Rayl salt Lake, and then 1619 01:14:52.479 --> 01:14:54.399 Matt Brown stopped by to discuss it. A couple of 1620 01:14:54.439 --> 01:14:58.680 different things pertaining to the sport and the business side, 1621 01:14:58.720 --> 01:15:01.880 specifically of college foot ball. Where in case you missed it, 1622 01:15:01.960 --> 01:15:04.479 a couple of pieces of news in the NIL space 1623 01:15:04.600 --> 01:15:07.439 broke earlier today and one of them is something to 1624 01:15:07.560 --> 01:15:09.840 really pay attention to. Okay, I'm not saying this is 1625 01:15:09.920 --> 01:15:12.159 going to happen, but my guess is it will happen 1626 01:15:12.760 --> 01:15:15.119 in a lot of different places. The University of Tennessee 1627 01:15:15.119 --> 01:15:18.800 announced today they've increased their ticket prices by ten percent 1628 01:15:18.920 --> 01:15:22.119 to help pay athletes via nil. It's called a talent 1629 01:15:22.199 --> 01:15:25.159 fee on tickets to help pay these athletes as part 1630 01:15:25.159 --> 01:15:28.319 of a new revenue sharing plan set to begin next year. 1631 01:15:29.279 --> 01:15:33.439 And this is not optional. Excuse me, this is not 1632 01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:35.520 an option. This is mandatory. 1633 01:15:36.159 --> 01:15:38.199 So in addition to the ten percent increase on all 1634 01:15:38.279 --> 01:15:41.399 ticket invoices, season tickets and single game purchases, as well 1635 01:15:41.399 --> 01:15:45.359 as donations for that seat, Tennessee will add an average 1636 01:15:45.439 --> 01:15:49.199 increase of four point five percent on all football tickets. 1637 01:15:49.279 --> 01:15:52.560 So don't be surprised if this is commonplace. We talked 1638 01:15:52.600 --> 01:15:56.439 a lot about what's being branded as donor fatigue with Matt, 1639 01:15:56.600 --> 01:15:58.920 So some good stuff there, all. Right, before we catch 1640 01:15:58.920 --> 01:16:01.520 a break, let's welcome in my buddy Doug from Farmer 1641 01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:02.159 and Chemist. 1642 01:16:02.239 --> 01:16:03.760 Doug. Happy Tuesday man, How are we doing? 1643 01:16:04.720 --> 01:16:05.000 Bence? 1644 01:16:05.039 --> 01:16:06.840 Thanks brother, Happy Tuesday to you as well. 1645 01:16:07.319 --> 01:16:08.239 Appreciate your time. 1646 01:16:08.319 --> 01:16:10.720 So let's start with what you guys helped me out with, 1647 01:16:10.840 --> 01:16:13.239 and that is my sleep issues. Not a great sleeper, 1648 01:16:13.359 --> 01:16:15.960 never have been, not even as a kid. And you 1649 01:16:16.079 --> 01:16:19.800 guys gave me some gummies, some CBD gummies that I've 1650 01:16:19.840 --> 01:16:22.039 been taking out for a couple of weeks. And you know, 1651 01:16:22.119 --> 01:16:24.159 I say this all the time, Doug. When you guys 1652 01:16:24.279 --> 01:16:27.119 join us, Let's get you off the sleep manage. Let's 1653 01:16:27.119 --> 01:16:29.720 get you off the ambient, let's get you off the benzos. 1654 01:16:29.800 --> 01:16:32.560 Let's try something a little bit more natural. So let's 1655 01:16:32.560 --> 01:16:34.680 start with what farmer and chemists can do for folks 1656 01:16:34.720 --> 01:16:35.600 that have trouble sleeping. 1657 01:16:37.159 --> 01:16:38.159 I love what you're saying. 1658 01:16:38.199 --> 01:16:39.079 That's exactly right. 1659 01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:44.560 We have created an amazing gummy that I don't like 1660 01:16:44.640 --> 01:16:47.039 to call it magic, but it's kind of magic. It's 1661 01:16:48.079 --> 01:16:52.520 thirty five milligrams of CBD, five milligrams of CBN, and 1662 01:16:52.800 --> 01:16:55.039 four milligrams of THC. 1663 01:16:55.399 --> 01:16:56.520 And I say that too. 1664 01:16:56.880 --> 01:17:00.920 Does everybody know that with all of those kannabinoids in 1665 01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:05.119 a pharmaceutical great gummy, then sleep really is improved. 1666 01:17:05.800 --> 01:17:07.479 We have just enough THHC. 1667 01:17:07.720 --> 01:17:10.279 But then the really the best part is that CBN 1668 01:17:10.960 --> 01:17:15.119 and CBN is a cannabinoid that not everybody includes in 1669 01:17:15.159 --> 01:17:18.039 their gummies and is really helpful with sleep as you're experiencing. 1670 01:17:18.920 --> 01:17:21.880 So the other thing, I've got this pesky tennis elbo 1671 01:17:22.000 --> 01:17:24.439 because I golf way too much, and you gave me 1672 01:17:24.520 --> 01:17:27.880 a balm of some sorts that has been super effective. Actually, 1673 01:17:28.000 --> 01:17:30.920 keep a tube of it in my golf bag. So 1674 01:17:31.199 --> 01:17:33.279 if I'm tiding up while I'm playing golf, I just 1675 01:17:33.399 --> 01:17:35.079 lab it on and then rub it in and it 1676 01:17:35.119 --> 01:17:37.720 actually really does help out. So let's talk now to 1677 01:17:37.800 --> 01:17:40.720 people with muscle soreness or arthritis. How can you guys 1678 01:17:40.800 --> 01:17:43.239 help them kind of alleviate some pain and maybe get 1679 01:17:43.319 --> 01:17:45.680 them off some pain mets, get them off some opioids. 1680 01:17:46.600 --> 01:17:49.680 Yeah, if you think opioids or n sids like I 1681 01:17:49.720 --> 01:17:52.239 have your pro center of OLTAAR and di clofinac, all 1682 01:17:52.319 --> 01:17:55.279 of those have long term negative effects on our liver. 1683 01:17:56.000 --> 01:18:00.560 And CBD alternatives, especially topical like you're carrying in your bag, 1684 01:18:01.199 --> 01:18:05.079 are safe and tremendously effective. So what you're carrying is 1685 01:18:05.199 --> 01:18:09.760 problem solved that has over two thousand milligrams of CBD 1686 01:18:10.600 --> 01:18:16.760 plus CBG and even some THC in the salve. And 1687 01:18:16.880 --> 01:18:20.439 the reason for that is CBG is an amazing natural 1688 01:18:20.640 --> 01:18:25.159 anti inflammatory. So you rub that on and literally two 1689 01:18:25.319 --> 01:18:29.079 to five minutes later, the swelling is down, the pain 1690 01:18:29.199 --> 01:18:32.800 is going away, and it's almost immediate relief. The lasts 1691 01:18:33.359 --> 01:18:36.800 about twelve to twenty four hours, depending on what you're 1692 01:18:36.880 --> 01:18:37.359 using it for. 1693 01:18:38.479 --> 01:18:40.239 All right, Doug, before I set you loose, you know, 1694 01:18:40.359 --> 01:18:42.079 I'm sure there are a lot of listeners that have 1695 01:18:42.239 --> 01:18:45.880 heard about the benefits of CBD and are maybe confused, like, 1696 01:18:45.960 --> 01:18:48.119 am I going to buy illegal drugs? Am I going 1697 01:18:48.239 --> 01:18:49.960 in there and buying like a bunch of weed? Like, 1698 01:18:50.239 --> 01:18:53.039 I'm sure we just have it's just lack of education. 1699 01:18:53.159 --> 01:18:55.439 I didn't know about CBD before learning about it through 1700 01:18:55.479 --> 01:18:57.920 you guys. So for our listeners that would be interested, 1701 01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:00.079 maybe they're on some heavy sleep meds or some have 1702 01:19:00.199 --> 01:19:03.119 you pain meds, what's the best process for them to 1703 01:19:03.159 --> 01:19:06.359 become educated and therefore know how you guys can help them. 1704 01:19:07.720 --> 01:19:07.920 Yeah. 1705 01:19:08.039 --> 01:19:10.760 Thanks, that's a really great question. So Farmer and Chemist 1706 01:19:11.279 --> 01:19:14.479 was developed by pharmacists. I'm a pharmacist, Jeff's a pharmacist. 1707 01:19:14.560 --> 01:19:18.760 We have real chemists. Blake devises all of our products 1708 01:19:18.800 --> 01:19:21.439 and creates them in a pharmaceutical grade lab here in 1709 01:19:21.520 --> 01:19:24.359 the valley. So the best process is just to come 1710 01:19:24.439 --> 01:19:27.920 into the store at seventy seven nineteen South Maine in 1711 01:19:28.279 --> 01:19:33.760 historic Midvale and talk to our team there about problems 1712 01:19:33.800 --> 01:19:36.640 that you're having and how we can help create solutions 1713 01:19:36.720 --> 01:19:40.079 for you. And we're happy to counsel with you. So, 1714 01:19:40.159 --> 01:19:43.039 if you'd like to talk with a pharmacist about those 1715 01:19:43.319 --> 01:19:47.840 opioids and SAIDs or anything else that you're using, and 1716 01:19:48.079 --> 01:19:51.640 find out what a natural alternative might be. We'd be 1717 01:19:51.720 --> 01:19:53.960 happy to share all of our knowledge with you and 1718 01:19:54.439 --> 01:19:56.960 help you learn about CBD that really is effective. 1719 01:19:57.760 --> 01:20:00.880 Doug, you need to record vos for like metical dative apps. Man, 1720 01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:03.039 you've got a very relaxing voice. I don't know if 1721 01:20:03.079 --> 01:20:05.079 you've considered that as a side hustle, but I would 1722 01:20:05.079 --> 01:20:05.520 consider it. 1723 01:20:06.399 --> 01:20:07.359 Well, we'll chat later. 1724 01:20:07.680 --> 01:20:08.399 You can help me out. 1725 01:20:09.000 --> 01:20:10.199 Thanks for the time, man, How are we going? 1726 01:20:10.239 --> 01:20:12.279 Okay, Hey, you have a great day. 1727 01:20:12.920 --> 01:20:13.239 All right? 1728 01:20:13.239 --> 01:20:16.640 We're live today Belliston Jewelry one one five five thirty 1729 01:20:16.680 --> 01:20:18.479 sixth Street right here in Ogden. Best thing to do 1730 01:20:18.600 --> 01:20:20.399 is put that address in your GPS, and there are 1731 01:20:20.399 --> 01:20:22.920 a lot of reasons to come by eleven fifty five 1732 01:20:23.039 --> 01:20:25.159 thirty sixth Street here in Ogden. We are giving away 1733 01:20:25.279 --> 01:20:29.880 fan X tickets Usavers Canada tickets, Dynamite and Rampage tickets, 1734 01:20:29.880 --> 01:20:30.840 and we have pizza. 1735 01:20:30.920 --> 01:20:31.039 Now. 1736 01:20:31.119 --> 01:20:35.760 Who doesn't love pizza? However, great deals on jewelry and guns, 1737 01:20:35.840 --> 01:20:38.359 because that's what we do here at Belliston and Sidney. 1738 01:20:38.399 --> 01:20:40.319 Belliston stops by once again, Sidney. 1739 01:20:40.319 --> 01:20:41.239 How are you. I'm good. 1740 01:20:41.279 --> 01:20:41.840 How are you doing? 1741 01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:42.359 I'm good? 1742 01:20:42.560 --> 01:20:44.840 So I asked Joe this, I'm gonna ask you for 1743 01:20:44.960 --> 01:20:48.319 your your perspective. You know, I know nothing about diamonds. 1744 01:20:48.359 --> 01:20:50.640 I know nothing about rings, and my guess is a 1745 01:20:50.800 --> 01:20:53.800 large portion of my audience also does not know. So 1746 01:20:53.920 --> 01:20:56.039 when you don't know about something, it's intimidating to go 1747 01:20:56.119 --> 01:20:58.399 in and ask questions, right, yeah, because you don't want 1748 01:20:58.399 --> 01:21:01.159 to be sold something that isn't good. Tell us about 1749 01:21:01.159 --> 01:21:03.800 your Your reviews are amazing. You obviously do a great 1750 01:21:03.880 --> 01:21:05.800 job taking care of your customers. But what makes your 1751 01:21:05.880 --> 01:21:07.880 process different than other jewel jewelers? 1752 01:21:08.760 --> 01:21:11.880 So we have a really really good team of people 1753 01:21:12.840 --> 01:21:16.439 that are trained really really well. So any questions that 1754 01:21:16.520 --> 01:21:18.800 people have, they can feel comfortable coming in and know 1755 01:21:18.920 --> 01:21:22.039 that whoever they talk to, we'll be able to answer 1756 01:21:22.119 --> 01:21:24.239 their questions. We've spent a lot of time making sure 1757 01:21:24.279 --> 01:21:28.079 that our employees are really well educated on the whole 1758 01:21:28.520 --> 01:21:29.800 the whole process of all of that. 1759 01:21:30.079 --> 01:21:32.680 It's also different when you're a family owned business, right, Like, 1760 01:21:32.800 --> 01:21:33.840 it just means a little bit more. 1761 01:21:33.920 --> 01:21:34.800 It's like a labor of love. 1762 01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:39.119 Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. We've also worked really really hard. 1763 01:21:39.319 --> 01:21:45.239 My husband in particular in the custom design area. So 1764 01:21:45.439 --> 01:21:50.239 right now we actually have five CAD designers on staff 1765 01:21:50.760 --> 01:21:56.279 and three in store jewelers. So so whatever whatever people want, 1766 01:21:56.680 --> 01:21:58.399 whether it's a ring or if they want a custom 1767 01:21:58.520 --> 01:22:01.760 pendant or you know, whatever it is, my husband is 1768 01:22:01.800 --> 01:22:07.359 actually designed like a like a gun shaft before for 1769 01:22:07.479 --> 01:22:09.479 somebody and welded it onto their gun. 1770 01:22:09.920 --> 01:22:13.159 Oh wow, So wow, that's pretty impressive. Is he making 1771 01:22:13.199 --> 01:22:14.600 you say all these nice things about him? 1772 01:22:14.680 --> 01:22:15.159 No, he's not. 1773 01:22:15.479 --> 01:22:17.319 Okay, all right, fair enough, all right. 1774 01:22:17.239 --> 01:22:19.279 So you tell us about this specially you guys came 1775 01:22:19.359 --> 01:22:22.199 up with. It's the best of both worlds for any couple, 1776 01:22:22.319 --> 01:22:23.640 for a man and for a woman's Yeah. 1777 01:22:23.760 --> 01:22:24.239 Absolutely. 1778 01:22:24.319 --> 01:22:28.199 The bling and boom event is what we're calling it. 1779 01:22:28.720 --> 01:22:34.399 So anybody can come in and pick out twenty five 1780 01:22:34.479 --> 01:22:36.840 hundred dollars worth of jelry and get a five hundred 1781 01:22:36.840 --> 01:22:40.680 dollars voucher to Smith and Edwards where they can go 1782 01:22:40.920 --> 01:22:46.000 pick out a rifle, a handgun, ammo. So they get 1783 01:22:46.039 --> 01:22:48.239 the diamonds, she gets the diamonds, she gets the bling, 1784 01:22:48.720 --> 01:22:50.159 and he gets the boom. 1785 01:22:50.399 --> 01:22:52.920 Gotta love it. And also, if you spend five thousand dollars, 1786 01:22:53.000 --> 01:22:56.359 you get one thousand dollars to Smith and Edwards as well. Right, yep, absolutely, 1787 01:22:56.680 --> 01:22:58.880 all right, before I set you loose, we were talking 1788 01:22:58.920 --> 01:23:03.279 about with with Joe the Belliston Love Collection, which kind 1789 01:23:03.279 --> 01:23:04.600 of is unique to you, well not kind of, it 1790 01:23:04.720 --> 01:23:06.760 is unique to you guys, So tell our listeners about 1791 01:23:06.760 --> 01:23:07.800 that sitting before I set you go. 1792 01:23:08.199 --> 01:23:09.000 Yeah, So that's. 1793 01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:12.479 Actually something Joe came up with a few years ago, 1794 01:23:12.600 --> 01:23:14.800 and it happened to come up with a ring that 1795 01:23:14.920 --> 01:23:20.319 he designed for me. Underneath every diamond there's a little 1796 01:23:20.359 --> 01:23:23.960 hole where the diamond is set. And the way we 1797 01:23:24.119 --> 01:23:26.399 design ours is that hole is instead of just being 1798 01:23:26.439 --> 01:23:28.640 a circle, it's a heart cut out. 1799 01:23:28.920 --> 01:23:29.119 Cool. 1800 01:23:29.720 --> 01:23:32.880 So I've got I've got a ring that has quite 1801 01:23:32.920 --> 01:23:35.119 a few diamonds in it and there's a heart under 1802 01:23:35.199 --> 01:23:37.720 every single one. So it just makes it a little 1803 01:23:37.760 --> 01:23:40.960 extra special that you know it's there. It's not it's 1804 01:23:41.000 --> 01:23:43.439 not something that is obvious to everybody, but you know 1805 01:23:43.560 --> 01:23:45.600 it's there, and it just it's a little more special. 1806 01:23:45.800 --> 01:23:46.319 That's awesome. 1807 01:23:46.359 --> 01:23:49.680 Belliston Jewelry, eleven fifty five thirty sixth Street here in Ogden. 1808 01:23:50.079 --> 01:23:52.640 Come on by and say hi, Sidy, thank you very much. Okay, 1809 01:23:52.760 --> 01:23:54.520 thank you all right, coming up on the other side. 1810 01:23:54.560 --> 01:23:57.079 We'll bring in Scott Mitchell, former Utah quarterback, and to 1811 01:23:57.159 --> 01:23:59.600 move over to Bill Riley after that Voice of the Youth. 1812 01:23:59.720 --> 01:24:02.159 So two hours left in the show. It's more or 1813 01:24:02.199 --> 01:24:05.359 less all college football on a Tuesday. All right, live 1814 01:24:05.439 --> 01:24:08.520 today up here in Augden, it's Bellaston Jewelry. It's eleven 1815 01:24:08.640 --> 01:24:10.720 fifty five thirty sixth Streets. 1816 01:24:10.880 --> 01:24:11.479 Come on bye. 1817 01:24:12.279 --> 01:24:14.680 With a twenty five hundred dollars purchase on Jewelry, you 1818 01:24:14.720 --> 01:24:17.720 get a five hundred dollars gift card to Smith and Edwards. 1819 01:24:17.800 --> 01:24:20.079 With a five thousand dollars purchase on jewelry, you get 1820 01:24:20.079 --> 01:24:23.359 a one thousand dollars gift card at Smith and Edwards. 1821 01:24:23.520 --> 01:24:25.439 Is the best of both worlds. She gets jewelry, you 1822 01:24:25.560 --> 01:24:29.880 get guns or Ammo. Because America eleven fifty five thirty 1823 01:24:29.920 --> 01:24:31.960 sixth Street is where you find us. We're giving away 1824 01:24:32.039 --> 01:24:36.760 fan X tickets, US AVERSUS Canada tickets, Hockey Style Dynamite 1825 01:24:36.800 --> 01:24:40.039 and Rampage tickets as well. Let's do more college football. 1826 01:24:40.119 --> 01:24:42.000 Our next guest one of the best to. 1827 01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:43.640 Ever do it. You know him, you love him. 1828 01:24:43.640 --> 01:24:46.760 Scott Mitchell on a Tuesday afternoon. Scott, Happy Tuesday, buddy, 1829 01:24:46.760 --> 01:24:47.159 How are we doing. 1830 01:24:49.319 --> 01:24:51.720 Excuse me, thanks, I'm doing wonderful spence. You know I 1831 01:24:51.840 --> 01:24:55.359 was up in Ogden last week. I drove through there 1832 01:24:55.399 --> 01:24:56.199 on my way to Logan. 1833 01:24:57.479 --> 01:25:00.439 All right, well, I wish you were back up here today, 1834 01:25:00.560 --> 01:25:02.560 but we'll do it over the phone today, Scott, we'll 1835 01:25:02.560 --> 01:25:03.239 do it over the phone. 1836 01:25:03.439 --> 01:25:05.680 I want to start with a question about two. 1837 01:25:05.760 --> 01:25:08.439 Before we get to the utes, which is where we'll 1838 01:25:08.439 --> 01:25:11.880 spend most of our conversation. So news just came down, Scott. 1839 01:25:11.920 --> 01:25:14.279 He's going to the IR so he's gonna miss four. 1840 01:25:15.239 --> 01:25:18.119 And the conversation, of course, is should he just stop playing? 1841 01:25:18.159 --> 01:25:21.319 Should he step away from the game as a father 1842 01:25:21.600 --> 01:25:24.399 and as a husband who's already made generational wealth, is 1843 01:25:24.479 --> 01:25:27.479 it something he should consider doing. I don't have the 1844 01:25:27.560 --> 01:25:30.399 perspective you do, because you guys are unicorns. What do 1845 01:25:30.479 --> 01:25:33.439 you make of the conversation right now surrounding TUATANGAVLOA. 1846 01:25:35.520 --> 01:25:38.039 Well, it's a history that you know, this isn't the 1847 01:25:38.079 --> 01:25:40.159 first time, it's not even the second time, it's the 1848 01:25:40.279 --> 01:25:42.720 third time, and you really start to have to ask 1849 01:25:42.760 --> 01:25:45.199 yourself the question. There's a lot of history with guys 1850 01:25:45.199 --> 01:25:48.399 who have had concussions. They start to get them and 1851 01:25:48.479 --> 01:25:50.279 then they just they don't go away and they come 1852 01:25:50.319 --> 01:25:54.600 back more frequently. Steve Young had the Troy Aikman Chris 1853 01:25:54.720 --> 01:25:59.199 Miller back in my time, and so it's it's something 1854 01:25:59.279 --> 01:26:01.600 that more than likely is never going to go away 1855 01:26:01.680 --> 01:26:06.600 in his career. And it's a real thing that the concussions, 1856 01:26:06.720 --> 01:26:10.079 and you know, it's it's not about you know, your life, 1857 01:26:10.079 --> 01:26:12.000 because your life in the NFL, even if it's a 1858 01:26:12.079 --> 01:26:14.600 long time, is really a short time in your life. 1859 01:26:14.920 --> 01:26:17.439 There's a lot, a lot to go, a lot of 1860 01:26:17.520 --> 01:26:19.760 life to live after you're done, and you really have 1861 01:26:19.880 --> 01:26:24.279 to ask you yourself a question. It's hard, though, to 1862 01:26:24.840 --> 01:26:29.279 answer that question, because to get there, you put your 1863 01:26:29.479 --> 01:26:31.399 you put your body through so much, you put your 1864 01:26:31.479 --> 01:26:34.560 mind through so much. You've sacrificed so much, and in 1865 01:26:34.760 --> 01:26:37.000 a lot of cases, you know, you've sacrificed a lot 1866 01:26:37.079 --> 01:26:40.199 of having a normal body ever again. And that's just 1867 01:26:40.279 --> 01:26:42.960 the reality of it. And so to get there, to 1868 01:26:43.479 --> 01:26:45.920 have that drive, to have that competitives, it's hard just 1869 01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:48.079 to turn it off. I mean, you thought kind of 1870 01:26:48.159 --> 01:26:50.800 dealing that with that with Cam Rising. You know, he's 1871 01:26:50.840 --> 01:26:54.439 a guy that doesn't know half speed. He doesn't know 1872 01:26:55.199 --> 01:26:58.039 when to run out of bounds. He doesn't know discretion, 1873 01:26:58.359 --> 01:27:00.279 you know, He's just like full speed ahead and I'm 1874 01:27:00.279 --> 01:27:02.479 going to you know, and I'm gonna I'm just gonna 1875 01:27:02.560 --> 01:27:05.279 run into whatever I can and and you don't want 1876 01:27:05.279 --> 01:27:07.079 to take that away, you know, from from a really 1877 01:27:07.079 --> 01:27:10.079 good player, and I think it's hard to So it's 1878 01:27:10.119 --> 01:27:15.920 a hard, a hard decision on top of you know, Spence, 1879 01:27:16.079 --> 01:27:18.640 it's really cool to go to go do that. Like 1880 01:27:18.920 --> 01:27:21.239 I can't even describe to people what it felt like 1881 01:27:21.319 --> 01:27:23.960 to play. It was incredible, it was amazing, and I 1882 01:27:24.079 --> 01:27:25.720 loved it and I loved every minute of it. And 1883 01:27:26.399 --> 01:27:28.560 when it's over, it's over and you don't go back 1884 01:27:28.600 --> 01:27:32.239 to that. So it's a lot of conflicting emotions and 1885 01:27:32.840 --> 01:27:36.079 feelings going through a decision to go, Hey, you know, 1886 01:27:36.159 --> 01:27:38.359 I'm I'm going to pack it in. But you really, 1887 01:27:38.439 --> 01:27:41.600 it's your health, your family, and your your life, your 1888 01:27:41.680 --> 01:27:44.039 quality of life really should should win the day. 1889 01:27:44.800 --> 01:27:46.560 I wonder some interesting stuff there. 1890 01:27:46.600 --> 01:27:50.239 And I was talking about this earlier, because ultimately, you 1891 01:27:50.399 --> 01:27:52.560 had an experience that most of the rest of us 1892 01:27:52.640 --> 01:27:56.239 who played sports growing up dreamed of having but weren't 1893 01:27:56.279 --> 01:27:58.119 able to get there. You were able to get there, 1894 01:27:58.199 --> 01:28:01.199 and you know, I talked to a lot of X pros. 1895 01:28:01.319 --> 01:28:03.039 I work with a lot of X pros on the 1896 01:28:03.119 --> 01:28:04.840 media side. I was on the team side for a 1897 01:28:04.920 --> 01:28:11.039 number of years. Do you ever come close to experiencing anything, 1898 01:28:11.479 --> 01:28:14.279 anything at all like you did when you were a player? 1899 01:28:14.399 --> 01:28:16.359 And attendant to the question, have you ever talked to 1900 01:28:17.239 --> 01:28:19.800 a peer or a former teammate that has been able 1901 01:28:19.840 --> 01:28:22.800 to find that thing that fills that void? 1902 01:28:23.319 --> 01:28:24.880 It always is interesting to me. 1903 01:28:25.600 --> 01:28:29.840 To witness former longtime successful pro athletes try to figure 1904 01:28:29.880 --> 01:28:33.000 out what to do next, and even if they're successful 1905 01:28:33.119 --> 01:28:36.520 in those endeavors, which plenty of them are, they never seem. 1906 01:28:36.319 --> 01:28:37.760 To find that thing. Man, you know what I mean. 1907 01:28:37.840 --> 01:28:39.079 So give me your thoughts on that. 1908 01:28:40.520 --> 01:28:43.439 Well. The only thing that I've come close to feeling 1909 01:28:43.920 --> 01:28:45.840 like when I played is some of the interviews I've 1910 01:28:45.880 --> 01:28:48.800 had on your show. But they were close, they just 1911 01:28:48.880 --> 01:28:49.600 weren't quite there. 1912 01:28:49.920 --> 01:28:51.600 Okay, I'm glad I can help fill the void. 1913 01:28:52.880 --> 01:28:56.520 Actually, one of the things that I really enjoy because 1914 01:28:56.560 --> 01:28:59.840 you can't. There's nothing that I've not found anything that 1915 01:29:00.119 --> 01:29:03.800 that replaces it. But I'll tell you something that was close, 1916 01:29:03.920 --> 01:29:07.159 and it was coaching and coaching high school football even 1917 01:29:08.039 --> 01:29:10.319 and it's one thing to go out and do it yourself, 1918 01:29:10.600 --> 01:29:12.880 and and the enter, you know, the excitement of a game. 1919 01:29:12.960 --> 01:29:15.520 And I don't care where you play, you know, or 1920 01:29:15.680 --> 01:29:18.680 coach or whatever. Going out and playing in the game's fun. 1921 01:29:18.800 --> 01:29:21.039 It's exciting, and it's it's a great thing. But to 1922 01:29:21.119 --> 01:29:25.640 see other people learn and have success from something you 1923 01:29:25.760 --> 01:29:28.319 taught them, that that was a that was a cool 1924 01:29:28.359 --> 01:29:32.039 thing for me. And and to see them uh progress 1925 01:29:32.159 --> 01:29:35.279 and get better and win and succeed at it, and 1926 01:29:36.079 --> 01:29:39.239 and and really you know, seeing you change lives, that 1927 01:29:39.520 --> 01:29:43.920 that was extremely exciting for me. I had an opportunity 1928 01:29:44.039 --> 01:29:47.760 to spend some time with Roger Staubach, who did an 1929 01:29:48.039 --> 01:29:52.920 incredible transition from his playing career into very very successful 1930 01:29:53.000 --> 01:29:58.399 commercial real estate endeavor and and I actually asked him, 1931 01:29:58.399 --> 01:30:01.840 I said, you know, you impact the life of so 1932 01:30:02.039 --> 01:30:05.479 many people in your business. You know, I think he 1933 01:30:05.560 --> 01:30:09.600 had fifteen hundred employees. And I said, that must be 1934 01:30:09.920 --> 01:30:12.439 a really satisfying thing. And he says, it's the one 1935 01:30:12.600 --> 01:30:16.840 thought I think about every day that my decisions and 1936 01:30:16.920 --> 01:30:20.319 how I run my business, you know, impact the life 1937 01:30:20.359 --> 01:30:23.039 of thousands of people every day, and it's really the 1938 01:30:23.199 --> 01:30:25.880 driving force of what I'm doing. And so I think, 1939 01:30:26.000 --> 01:30:30.239 you know, engaging in things that make a difference and 1940 01:30:31.199 --> 01:30:34.159 impact people in a good way. That's kind of where 1941 01:30:34.239 --> 01:30:38.239 I've found It. Certainly doesn't replace or feel the same 1942 01:30:38.359 --> 01:30:41.840 as when you played football at its highest level, but 1943 01:30:41.960 --> 01:30:44.560 it's a very rewarding thing to be a part of. 1944 01:30:45.680 --> 01:30:48.199 Well said, all right, last pro football question, then we'll 1945 01:30:48.239 --> 01:30:51.760 move on to some mute stuff. Britain Covey Scott last night, 1946 01:30:51.800 --> 01:30:55.560 I got six targets, six catches, which equals the targets 1947 01:30:55.600 --> 01:30:58.239 and catches he had had prior to last night. Now, 1948 01:30:58.680 --> 01:31:02.119 no AJ Brown, that's Philly's wide receiver one, but that's 1949 01:31:02.119 --> 01:31:04.239 still a crowded room. I got DeVante Smith some other 1950 01:31:04.279 --> 01:31:05.880 good players. Do you think we're going to see this 1951 01:31:06.680 --> 01:31:09.560 moving forward, Britain Covey being utilized not just as a 1952 01:31:09.680 --> 01:31:12.000 punt or a kickoff returner, but actually getting reps and 1953 01:31:12.039 --> 01:31:14.680 getting looks from Jalen Hurts as a wide receiver. 1954 01:31:15.000 --> 01:31:18.319 Yeah, you know, I've always loved Britain. I don't think 1955 01:31:18.399 --> 01:31:22.399 they utilized him as effective as they could have at Utah. 1956 01:31:22.560 --> 01:31:26.279 I mean, he's a in that slot position where you're 1957 01:31:26.319 --> 01:31:28.880 not going up against the team's you know, shut down 1958 01:31:29.000 --> 01:31:34.439 corner you're a little bit undersized, but amazing speed quickness. 1959 01:31:35.199 --> 01:31:38.039 You know, he has that speed and quickness that translates 1960 01:31:38.079 --> 01:31:40.640 to the NFL. He's a playmaker. He's a guy that 1961 01:31:40.760 --> 01:31:43.760 can make plays and he's got a you know, he's 1962 01:31:43.800 --> 01:31:45.680 just a tremendous human being. I mean, he's just a 1963 01:31:45.840 --> 01:31:49.680 really good person. He understands, he gets it, he works 1964 01:31:49.760 --> 01:31:52.880 hard at it. And for guys like that, there's always 1965 01:31:52.920 --> 01:31:55.239 a place. You know, Taysom hill at Uyu, he was 1966 01:31:55.279 --> 01:31:58.239 a quarterback, but he was a much greater athlete and 1967 01:31:58.319 --> 01:32:01.319 they figured out how to utilize him. And the NFL 1968 01:32:01.439 --> 01:32:04.399 is good at that. They just find they find places 1969 01:32:04.479 --> 01:32:08.720 for people who have unique abilities and talents. And you 1970 01:32:08.840 --> 01:32:12.000 see that Julian Edelman's and some of these undersized receivers 1971 01:32:12.199 --> 01:32:14.640 have a ton of success in the NFL because they're 1972 01:32:14.960 --> 01:32:17.439 they're quick, and they can get open and they can 1973 01:32:17.520 --> 01:32:20.399 be productive and and uh, you know, I just see 1974 01:32:20.479 --> 01:32:24.920 Britain being a guy like that, and he's he's done enough. 1975 01:32:26.079 --> 01:32:29.640 He's found ways to keep himself there and relevant because 1976 01:32:29.680 --> 01:32:33.239 there you know, your opportunity will come at some point 1977 01:32:33.279 --> 01:32:35.640 if you stick around, you just have to be ready 1978 01:32:35.680 --> 01:32:38.520 for it when it happens, and you're seeing a little 1979 01:32:38.520 --> 01:32:41.640 bit of that with with Britain in Philadelphia. 1980 01:32:42.560 --> 01:32:45.039 All right, moving over the utes, let's uh, let's go 1981 01:32:45.359 --> 01:32:48.239 back to last Saturday, Average Stadium, first time up in 1982 01:32:48.319 --> 01:32:50.119 Logan in twelve years. 1983 01:32:49.880 --> 01:32:52.720 For the utes start out a little Harry and a 1984 01:32:52.800 --> 01:32:53.800 lot of people were nervous. 1985 01:32:53.880 --> 01:32:56.359 You could definitely feel it, getting the text messages from 1986 01:32:56.399 --> 01:32:58.479 buddies and family members like is this really going to 1987 01:32:58.560 --> 01:32:58.880 go down? 1988 01:32:59.600 --> 01:33:02.039 But I is it answered some questions, Scott, I mean, 1989 01:33:02.239 --> 01:33:03.359 I was proud of the kid. 1990 01:33:03.439 --> 01:33:06.439 It's weird to say, but you fans, of course, a 1991 01:33:06.479 --> 01:33:09.279 little PTSD from a year ago, when you know Cam 1992 01:33:09.399 --> 01:33:12.359 goes down, then Brandon goes down, and it was Bryson, 1993 01:33:12.720 --> 01:33:14.520 then it was Nate, that it was Bryson and Nate, 1994 01:33:14.600 --> 01:33:16.800 and it just it never looked. It never looked the 1995 01:33:16.800 --> 01:33:19.399 way it needed to to be prepared for an emergency 1996 01:33:19.479 --> 01:33:21.560 if you lose a couple of quarterbacks. And I think 1997 01:33:21.600 --> 01:33:25.720 at least for one day, Isaac answered some questions about 1998 01:33:25.760 --> 01:33:27.960 what it does look like should Cameron have to miss time? 1999 01:33:28.039 --> 01:33:31.279 So give me your thoughts on Isaac's performance against you here. 2000 01:33:32.680 --> 01:33:36.039 Well, we witnessed the Cam rising backup bull on Saturday, 2001 01:33:36.079 --> 01:33:38.920 you know, between Bryce and Barnes and Isaac Wilson and 2002 01:33:39.399 --> 01:33:42.560 Won the former and now the president, and you know 2003 01:33:42.640 --> 01:33:45.439 that was that was the really big thing for me. Football. 2004 01:33:45.520 --> 01:33:51.720 Football seasons are and games have emotional ebbs and flows 2005 01:33:51.880 --> 01:33:54.920 and and you know, the whole the whole tide of 2006 01:33:55.000 --> 01:33:58.279 the game kind of you know, it just it just 2007 01:33:58.439 --> 01:34:02.439 changes all the time, and good teams, mature teams and 2008 01:34:02.680 --> 01:34:05.960 capable teams find a way to kind of change that 2009 01:34:06.119 --> 01:34:09.840 momentum and answer to that momentum. I think Utah was 2010 01:34:09.920 --> 01:34:12.600 down fourteen to three, and you know, I was one 2011 01:34:12.640 --> 01:34:15.680 of those nervous people as well, and that's when that's 2012 01:34:15.680 --> 01:34:18.000 when it just clicked in and they went on a drive, 2013 01:34:18.119 --> 01:34:20.920 went down and scored And it was really that moment 2014 01:34:21.000 --> 01:34:23.479 of kind of changing that low point in the game 2015 01:34:24.279 --> 01:34:29.119 into a really positive thing. And look, two things are happening. First, 2016 01:34:29.199 --> 01:34:32.159 it's a road game, and road games are real regardless 2017 01:34:32.199 --> 01:34:35.359 of the opponent. And you're in and Utah's in this 2018 01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:40.319 new environment. It's tough, they came to play, they have 2019 01:34:40.640 --> 01:34:43.600 they have some players. And then you're starting a true 2020 01:34:43.680 --> 01:34:47.840 freshman quarterback, Isaac Wilson is I mean, he's barely out 2021 01:34:47.880 --> 01:34:50.439 of high school barely looks like he's at a junior 2022 01:34:50.479 --> 01:34:53.760 high school. And it's and so he's, you know, he's 2023 01:34:53.880 --> 01:34:57.159 dealing with that, and the whole team's dealing with that. 2024 01:34:57.279 --> 01:34:59.760 You know, how does kids going to respond even though 2025 01:34:59.760 --> 01:35:02.840 it's you know, not they're not playing Texas, They're still 2026 01:35:02.880 --> 01:35:05.760 playing a good football team. And and and you still 2027 01:35:05.760 --> 01:35:08.720 get nervous before your first start. And so it took 2028 01:35:08.760 --> 01:35:11.640 a minute and and and it and then when he 2029 01:35:11.800 --> 01:35:16.039 started gaining confidence, it's when everyone else really started gaining confidence. 2030 01:35:16.079 --> 01:35:20.960 But I appreciated coach Whittingham, coach Ludwig for saying, we're 2031 01:35:21.000 --> 01:35:23.000 not going to abandon this kid. We're not going to 2032 01:35:23.640 --> 01:35:26.439 stifle him where I mean they started the third quarter, 2033 01:35:26.479 --> 01:35:28.880 I think they threw the ball five or six straight 2034 01:35:28.920 --> 01:35:30.640 times in a row. I don't know that. I don't 2035 01:35:30.680 --> 01:35:33.359 know that's ever happened with Cam Rising in the game, 2036 01:35:33.439 --> 01:35:37.680 and he and Isaac Wilson was way up to the challenge. 2037 01:35:37.720 --> 01:35:42.119 I mean, he made some really really mature moves and 2038 01:35:42.680 --> 01:35:46.239 throws in the location and uh, you know, he can 2039 01:35:46.319 --> 01:35:48.399 throw the ball pretty much anywhere you need him to, 2040 01:35:48.600 --> 01:35:51.359 and and you could just see him getting more comfortable 2041 01:35:51.439 --> 01:35:55.680 and more confident as the game went on, and I 2042 01:35:55.960 --> 01:35:59.399 just I was just thoroughly impressed with the very beginning 2043 01:35:59.479 --> 01:36:00.399 of Isaac Wilson. 2044 01:36:01.680 --> 01:36:05.520 So let's move over now to what Utah State was 2045 01:36:05.800 --> 01:36:08.720 able to do and what you think it means as 2046 01:36:08.760 --> 01:36:11.680 far as what Utah has to improve upon moving forward, 2047 01:36:11.720 --> 01:36:15.000 because look, there were soul Faizan kid is a good back, 2048 01:36:15.600 --> 01:36:17.560 but they're about to see Ali Gordon, who won the 2049 01:36:17.600 --> 01:36:20.359 dok Walker a year ago nineteen carries one point fifteen. 2050 01:36:20.680 --> 01:36:23.000 Utah State goes for three eighty five in total. Oh, 2051 01:36:23.159 --> 01:36:26.439 I would imagine that Morgan and Kyle aren't thrilled with that, 2052 01:36:26.800 --> 01:36:28.880 And I think it's probably fair to say that if 2053 01:36:28.880 --> 01:36:31.640 you're not better in those areas, Okay, States can provide 2054 01:36:31.680 --> 01:36:35.000 a really, really stiff challenge on the road. So your 2055 01:36:35.079 --> 01:36:37.520 thoughts on that dynamic and other dynamics you think Utah 2056 01:36:37.600 --> 01:36:39.439 needs to improve upon this week to go get that 2057 01:36:39.520 --> 01:36:40.319 win in still Water. 2058 01:36:42.439 --> 01:36:45.880 Well, offensively, you know, it's being able to consistently go 2059 01:36:46.000 --> 01:36:47.880 down the field and score. You're just gonna have to 2060 01:36:47.920 --> 01:36:50.880 do that. You're gonna have to. You can't get shut 2061 01:36:50.920 --> 01:36:52.880 down and go three and out four or five times 2062 01:36:52.920 --> 01:36:54.359 in a game. You don't they don't have very many 2063 01:36:54.439 --> 01:36:58.119 possessions even anymore in college football with the change of time, 2064 01:36:58.640 --> 01:37:02.600 you can't get your defense tired. So and that's what 2065 01:37:02.800 --> 01:37:05.720 Cam Rising is really good at is he can consistently 2066 01:37:05.800 --> 01:37:09.960 go down the field and score on teams. Oklahoma State 2067 01:37:10.039 --> 01:37:13.840 has had some challenges defensively, but on the defensive side, 2068 01:37:13.920 --> 01:37:17.000 you know, Utah decided to go after Bryce and Barnes 2069 01:37:17.640 --> 01:37:20.680 put their dvs who really haven't been put in a 2070 01:37:20.800 --> 01:37:24.720 lot of tests, you know, press man coverage, and bryceon 2071 01:37:24.840 --> 01:37:27.439 took shots, I mean, and some of them he connected 2072 01:37:27.520 --> 01:37:32.199 on amazing catches, but also some really good defensive plays. 2073 01:37:32.279 --> 01:37:34.600 You know, you kind of throw those fifty to fifty 2074 01:37:34.640 --> 01:37:37.119 balls and it was kind of fifty to fifty fifty 2075 01:37:37.199 --> 01:37:39.560 percent of the time. They made great catches and we 2076 01:37:39.680 --> 01:37:44.239 had two really really good interceptions Smith Snowden and Cameron Calhoun. 2077 01:37:44.399 --> 01:37:51.359 But Utah's DNA is to stop the run. Oklahoma States 2078 01:37:51.439 --> 01:37:54.840 DNA is to run the football, and so it's a 2079 01:37:54.960 --> 01:38:00.239 matchup of power versus power. What Oklahoma State it has 2080 01:38:00.279 --> 01:38:02.960 shown is that they're not afraid if you're gonna stack 2081 01:38:03.039 --> 01:38:06.000 the box on them, which everyone has done. Everyone's just 2082 01:38:06.199 --> 01:38:07.880 so far this season just said, we're not going to 2083 01:38:08.000 --> 01:38:09.880 let Olli Gordon beat us. You're gonna have to be 2084 01:38:10.039 --> 01:38:14.520 throwing the football, and Ali Bohannon has actually been able 2085 01:38:14.560 --> 01:38:16.880 to do that so far. And that's the thing I 2086 01:38:16.920 --> 01:38:20.479 think that's really surprised me is Oklahoma State's willingness to 2087 01:38:20.560 --> 01:38:22.920 throw the ball and throw it a lot early this year. 2088 01:38:23.840 --> 01:38:26.680 I think that's going to be the challenge of the game. 2089 01:38:26.840 --> 01:38:29.199 Is you know, you've got to be able to stop 2090 01:38:29.239 --> 01:38:30.880 the run. I mean, if you don't stop the run, 2091 01:38:30.960 --> 01:38:32.760 you're not gonna win. So you've got to be able 2092 01:38:32.760 --> 01:38:35.000 to stop the run. But you also have to minimize 2093 01:38:35.640 --> 01:38:38.760 the success that Oklahoma State's going to have throwing the football. 2094 01:38:39.479 --> 01:38:42.319 All right, Scott, before I set you loose, I mean, look, 2095 01:38:43.000 --> 01:38:46.000 I hate to even say it this way, but if 2096 01:38:46.079 --> 01:38:48.520 I told you that you had to place a sizeable 2097 01:38:48.600 --> 01:38:51.479 bet with the Scott Mitchell quarterback NFL savings on whether 2098 01:38:51.520 --> 01:38:53.840 or not Cameron Rising was going to play all season, 2099 01:38:54.800 --> 01:38:57.680 my guess is you would say probably not. I don't 2100 01:38:57.680 --> 01:38:59.439 know what the confidence level is around here that the 2101 01:38:59.520 --> 01:39:00.319 kick can stay healthy. 2102 01:39:00.399 --> 01:39:02.000 I want him to, we all want him to. 2103 01:39:02.640 --> 01:39:04.560 So let's move over to Saturday and let's go under 2104 01:39:04.640 --> 01:39:06.760 center with Cam, we all believe he is going to 2105 01:39:06.800 --> 01:39:07.159 be the guy? 2106 01:39:07.840 --> 01:39:09.600 What do you hope to see from him? 2107 01:39:10.239 --> 01:39:12.840 Because the whole conversation I had it with you, I 2108 01:39:12.920 --> 01:39:15.800 had it with other coaches, other people leading up to 2109 01:39:16.000 --> 01:39:18.560 the season, is can you change the way that kid's 2110 01:39:18.640 --> 01:39:21.520 mind is wired so that when he is in trouble 2111 01:39:21.640 --> 01:39:24.079 he gets out of trouble as opposed to trying to 2112 01:39:24.159 --> 01:39:28.000 make something happen. So from the standpoint of that, what 2113 01:39:28.079 --> 01:39:29.920 are you hoping to see on Saturday? And then just 2114 01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:32.199 from a big picture standpoint, what are we hoping to 2115 01:39:32.239 --> 01:39:35.479 see from Cameron rising in still Water against Okay State. 2116 01:39:36.920 --> 01:39:39.840 Well, the thing I'm curious about is how much does 2117 01:39:39.880 --> 01:39:41.960 this impact his ability to throw? I mean, he had 2118 01:39:41.960 --> 01:39:44.159 a glove on last week. There's a lot of speculation 2119 01:39:44.319 --> 01:39:47.039 that will wear a glove. Some quarterbacks have had a 2120 01:39:47.119 --> 01:39:49.920 lot of success. Kurt Warner started wearing a glove all 2121 01:39:49.960 --> 01:39:52.960 the time and really liked it. And I know, when 2122 01:39:53.000 --> 01:39:55.159 you go from not wearing a glove to wearing a glove, 2123 01:39:56.359 --> 01:40:00.279 there's just a time of getting comfortable and confident with that. 2124 01:40:01.119 --> 01:40:03.760 And if it if it helps Cam to be successful, 2125 01:40:03.880 --> 01:40:06.960 you know, maybe wearing a glove makes all the difference 2126 01:40:07.000 --> 01:40:09.359 in the world. And he's totally fine throwing the ball, 2127 01:40:09.439 --> 01:40:12.199 but if it's if it's awkward and it feels weird 2128 01:40:12.239 --> 01:40:14.279 and he can't feel get comfortable with it, it's going 2129 01:40:14.359 --> 01:40:17.399 to be an issue. But to me, can he throw effectively? 2130 01:40:18.319 --> 01:40:20.399 And he's going to have to because they're going to 2131 01:40:20.439 --> 01:40:23.560 stack the box against Utah because these two teams are 2132 01:40:23.760 --> 01:40:27.119 mirror images of each other. They want to run, They're 2133 01:40:27.199 --> 01:40:30.840 going to try to run against, you know, an expanded front, 2134 01:40:32.039 --> 01:40:34.079 but they're also going to throw the ball down the 2135 01:40:34.119 --> 01:40:35.960 field when they have to. And I just to me, 2136 01:40:36.199 --> 01:40:39.039 can he can he throw and not not have this 2137 01:40:39.279 --> 01:40:42.680 be an issue. One of the good things Utah has 2138 01:40:42.800 --> 01:40:45.399 this year is two bye weeks. Have a bye week, 2139 01:40:45.439 --> 01:40:47.560 it's the first of October and the first of November. 2140 01:40:48.039 --> 01:40:50.479 And a lot of these kind of nagging injuries that 2141 01:40:50.640 --> 01:40:52.000 some of these players are going to get, They're going 2142 01:40:52.039 --> 01:40:55.119 to get some really good time to rest up and 2143 01:40:55.640 --> 01:40:57.199 go through what I think is going to be a 2144 01:40:57.279 --> 01:40:59.760 long season. And but Cam has got to be able 2145 01:40:59.840 --> 01:41:03.239 to to throw the football. I'm not gonna at this 2146 01:41:03.399 --> 01:41:06.520 point in Cam's career. I think Kyle's kind of come 2147 01:41:06.600 --> 01:41:08.920 to this as well. He's not gonna change who he is. 2148 01:41:09.520 --> 01:41:11.359 He's gonna go out there and he's gonna, you know, 2149 01:41:11.399 --> 01:41:14.239 he's gonna storm the beaches and do his thing. And 2150 01:41:14.720 --> 01:41:16.319 I think you just have to roll with it. And 2151 01:41:17.199 --> 01:41:20.319 but I think he can feel pretty comfortable with Isaac 2152 01:41:20.359 --> 01:41:24.239 Wilson being, you know, a solid backup, and he'll probably 2153 01:41:24.319 --> 01:41:25.600 end up playing some more this year. 2154 01:41:26.439 --> 01:41:28.640 All right, Scott, thanks for the time. Buddy travels safe 2155 01:41:28.640 --> 01:41:29.920 and I have a great call on Saturday. 2156 01:41:29.960 --> 01:41:31.520 Okay, I appreciate it. 2157 01:41:31.600 --> 01:41:33.680 Thanks all right, Scott Mitchell joining us. 2158 01:41:33.720 --> 01:41:36.560 Coming up on the other side, Bill Riley will stop 2159 01:41:36.600 --> 01:41:39.600 by the Voice the Voice of the Utes himself, The 2160 01:41:39.680 --> 01:41:43.479 Bill Riley Mullet Watch is on, by the way, time 2161 01:41:43.520 --> 01:41:46.760 to catch up with a voice the Voice of the Utes, 2162 01:41:46.800 --> 01:41:50.199 and the Bill Riley Mullet Watch continues as Utah is 2163 01:41:50.279 --> 01:41:53.159 now three to zero. Ryle's happy Tuesday, man, How are 2164 01:41:53.159 --> 01:41:53.399 we doing? 2165 01:41:54.479 --> 01:41:56.439 I'm not doing as good as you are in O 2166 01:41:56.720 --> 01:41:58.359 town with your bling and your boom. 2167 01:42:00.039 --> 01:42:03.760 Look, you know me, I'm about the bling, I'm about 2168 01:42:03.840 --> 01:42:06.960 the boom. I'm about America. I'm about football, you know. 2169 01:42:07.119 --> 01:42:07.560 You know me? 2170 01:42:07.680 --> 01:42:11.239 Bill, this is right down my alley, well it is. 2171 01:42:11.520 --> 01:42:14.319 And speaking of mullet Watch. It's only appropriate to bring 2172 01:42:14.399 --> 01:42:17.239 mullet watch up as we head to Oklahoma State this weekend, 2173 01:42:17.359 --> 01:42:20.319 where the guy that rocks the mullets from back when, 2174 01:42:20.840 --> 01:42:22.840 back in his playing day is still rocking it today. 2175 01:42:22.920 --> 01:42:24.239 Mike Gundhy is the head coach. 2176 01:42:25.159 --> 01:42:27.720 So we do need to reset Bill because you join 2177 01:42:27.880 --> 01:42:32.000 me preseason. And I said, Bill in honor of Mike Gundhy, 2178 01:42:32.079 --> 01:42:34.000 in honor of the Big twelve. Quite frankly, we're gonna 2179 01:42:34.000 --> 01:42:36.119 see a lot mullets this year, Gay, more mullets than 2180 01:42:36.119 --> 01:42:39.239 we're used to. Will you agree to grow a mullets 2181 01:42:39.720 --> 01:42:41.640 if utahgoes twelve and oh? 2182 01:42:41.960 --> 01:42:43.159 And your response was. 2183 01:42:44.680 --> 01:42:48.399 Absolutely yes, sir, grow a mullet out. I will party, 2184 01:42:49.239 --> 01:42:51.520 you know, business upfront, party in the back if the 2185 01:42:51.600 --> 01:42:53.600 utes go twelve and zero on the regular season that 2186 01:42:53.960 --> 01:42:56.520 spends check its is my pledge to you, and I 2187 01:42:56.640 --> 01:43:00.239 will come out on a remote bling and boom or 2188 01:43:00.399 --> 01:43:04.039 non and we will sport that mullet next fall we 2189 01:43:04.359 --> 01:43:07.159 have to play. I'll rocket the entire off seat. Well 2190 01:43:08.000 --> 01:43:11.279 I won't say the entire offseason. I'll rock it to 2191 01:43:11.439 --> 01:43:14.640 a point. But you can be the judge and jury 2192 01:43:14.760 --> 01:43:16.319 of how long I keep the mullet. 2193 01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:20.000 Bro you almost just buried yourself. I was not expecting 2194 01:43:20.079 --> 01:43:23.239 you keeping the mullet all off season, but you almost 2195 01:43:23.319 --> 01:43:24.239 put that on the table. 2196 01:43:24.319 --> 01:43:25.720 That's why I just let you go. I want to 2197 01:43:25.720 --> 01:43:26.760 see if you'd actually do that. 2198 01:43:27.039 --> 01:43:29.720 The fact of the matter is the remote that you 2199 01:43:29.840 --> 01:43:32.079 need to come on when you have your mullet is 2200 01:43:32.159 --> 01:43:33.279 the blinging boom special. 2201 01:43:33.359 --> 01:43:33.960 It feels right. 2202 01:43:34.720 --> 01:43:38.039 Well, you know, we probably should move it up to 2203 01:43:38.119 --> 01:43:41.479 Smith and Edwards. I think the mullet probably fits better 2204 01:43:42.239 --> 01:43:45.199 at Smith and Edwards than it does at the jewelry store. 2205 01:43:45.800 --> 01:43:47.439 Fair enough, fair enough, moving on. 2206 01:43:47.600 --> 01:43:50.079 I just wanted to re establish the Bill Riley mullett 2207 01:43:50.079 --> 01:43:51.960 watch on our little radio show. 2208 01:43:51.760 --> 01:43:54.880 Here all right, Bill, I thought Isaac answered a lot 2209 01:43:54.920 --> 01:43:55.359 of questions. 2210 01:43:55.439 --> 01:43:55.560 Man. 2211 01:43:55.600 --> 01:43:57.560 I thought he met the moment. I was skeptical. It 2212 01:43:57.600 --> 01:43:59.720 didn't look great against but Baylor. It didn't look great 2213 01:43:59.720 --> 01:44:01.920 to st But I sounds weird to say. I was 2214 01:44:01.960 --> 01:44:02.600 prid of the kid. Man. 2215 01:44:02.640 --> 01:44:04.520 I thought he answered a lot of questions on Saturday. 2216 01:44:04.560 --> 01:44:05.600 What are your takeaways? 2217 01:44:06.520 --> 01:44:08.479 I thought he looked really good. It's amazing with you know, 2218 01:44:08.520 --> 01:44:10.479 another week of practice, when you get most of the 2219 01:44:10.560 --> 01:44:13.399 reps and you know you you get you know, you 2220 01:44:13.479 --> 01:44:16.399 know the game plans yours. I just thought he was 2221 01:44:16.520 --> 01:44:19.119 really good. You know, he was a little I won't 2222 01:44:19.199 --> 01:44:20.880 say shake yet. I think he was just there were 2223 01:44:20.920 --> 01:44:23.439 some nerves early when the ball was sailing on him, 2224 01:44:23.800 --> 01:44:26.520 but once he got dialed in, you could really see him. 2225 01:44:26.560 --> 01:44:29.199 And you know, there were two throws spins he made 2226 01:44:29.239 --> 01:44:31.319 two of them. They were almost the same throw that 2227 01:44:31.560 --> 01:44:35.079 that in between the safety and linebacker, in between the 2228 01:44:35.159 --> 01:44:37.720 linebacker and corner. Throw that he dropped in a couple 2229 01:44:37.800 --> 01:44:40.479 of times on the sideline to Money Parks. Those are 2230 01:44:40.600 --> 01:44:43.199 high level throws. And I thought he did a heck 2231 01:44:43.239 --> 01:44:43.680 of a job. 2232 01:44:45.800 --> 01:44:46.920 Yeah, no, I agree with you. 2233 01:44:47.159 --> 01:44:51.000 So, you know, with the sensitivity of injuries, shout out 2234 01:44:51.039 --> 01:44:53.680 coach Lud. I know they don't talk much about them. 2235 01:44:53.760 --> 01:44:56.920 I just I need to know where we're at with 2236 01:44:57.119 --> 01:44:59.600 Cameron on a Tuesday. All the intel I have, all 2237 01:44:59.640 --> 01:45:01.520 the intel most people seem to have, is that he 2238 01:45:01.680 --> 01:45:05.279 is good to go. He's planning on playing quarterback against Okay, 2239 01:45:05.319 --> 01:45:07.000 Stayton still Water, you're the voice. 2240 01:45:07.119 --> 01:45:07.880 What's the update? 2241 01:45:09.640 --> 01:45:11.479 They do the coaches show tonight. So I'll be heading 2242 01:45:11.520 --> 01:45:13.079 over to the facility in a little while. I'll get 2243 01:45:13.079 --> 01:45:15.199 a better update. But I think Dorian Singer said to 2244 01:45:15.239 --> 01:45:17.960 the media yesterday, maybe the Josh Furlong from KSL, that 2245 01:45:18.079 --> 01:45:21.159 he was expecting Cam to play this weekend. So I'm 2246 01:45:21.199 --> 01:45:24.520 not sure if Dorian got the memo, the Ambulandwig memo 2247 01:45:24.640 --> 01:45:27.319 and the Kyle Whittingham memo about not talking about injuries, 2248 01:45:27.399 --> 01:45:30.319 but I think he build Josh Furlong he's expecting Cam 2249 01:45:30.399 --> 01:45:33.279 to play. So I'll have better feel for tonight. I 2250 01:45:33.359 --> 01:45:35.319 have to talk to to Kyle. But I think that's 2251 01:45:35.399 --> 01:45:37.319 kind of what everybody thought, unless there's some sort of 2252 01:45:37.359 --> 01:45:39.840 a setback that I think everybody was kind of circling 2253 01:45:39.960 --> 01:45:42.880 this date. Brett McMurphy had reported it last week at 2254 01:45:42.920 --> 01:45:45.800 Action the Action Network, and then you know, I think 2255 01:45:46.000 --> 01:45:48.720 it was Dorian Singer who said something yesterday. So I 2256 01:45:48.800 --> 01:45:50.359 think that's the expectation this weekend. 2257 01:45:52.079 --> 01:45:52.960 Okay, fair enough. 2258 01:45:53.079 --> 01:45:55.399 That's kind of how we're operating on the show as well. 2259 01:45:55.640 --> 01:45:58.119 So recently, Bill, you became a fan of the Kansas 2260 01:45:58.119 --> 01:45:59.960 City Chiefs, so I want to ask you a question 2261 01:46:00.880 --> 01:46:03.399 about obviously a kid, Bill's been a lifelong Chiefs man. 2262 01:46:03.920 --> 01:46:07.720 I felt about Utah the same way I felt this 2263 01:46:07.840 --> 01:46:09.239 weekend about watching the Chiefs. 2264 01:46:10.000 --> 01:46:11.840 I never thought they were going to lose. Were you 2265 01:46:11.960 --> 01:46:13.439 ever nervous on Saturday? 2266 01:46:13.520 --> 01:46:15.479 Did you feel like it was getting to the point 2267 01:46:15.520 --> 01:46:18.800 where this upset could potentially go down? Uh? 2268 01:46:19.119 --> 01:46:21.960 No, I didn't. I just thought Utah was better. I 2269 01:46:22.079 --> 01:46:26.680 thought Utah State treated it like it was their super Bowl, 2270 01:46:26.800 --> 01:46:29.399 and they played out of their minds, and Bryce and 2271 01:46:29.479 --> 01:46:31.920 Barnes made some really nice plays, and I thought they 2272 01:46:32.000 --> 01:46:36.000 schemed things up really well. But I never got the 2273 01:46:36.119 --> 01:46:37.640 sense that they were going to be good enough for 2274 01:46:37.760 --> 01:46:42.000 four quarters to beat Utah. Maybe I didn't think they'd 2275 01:46:42.039 --> 01:46:45.159 put twenty one on the board, but I thought that 2276 01:46:45.239 --> 01:46:47.680 they had a really good game plan and they ran 2277 01:46:47.800 --> 01:46:50.119 it okay, and Barnes used his legs and made some 2278 01:46:50.279 --> 01:46:53.319 nice throws. But there was never a point where I 2279 01:46:53.399 --> 01:46:57.399 thought that Utah might lose that game. Conversely, there were 2280 01:46:57.720 --> 01:46:59.920 several points where I thought maybe the Chiefs would lose. 2281 01:47:00.399 --> 01:47:02.279 But at this point in time, I think I should 2282 01:47:02.399 --> 01:47:06.760 just understand that both Mahomes and Specnolo's defense are really good, 2283 01:47:06.960 --> 01:47:10.119 so they know good teams find ways to win, and 2284 01:47:10.439 --> 01:47:11.760 the Utes are good, the Chiefs are good. 2285 01:47:13.079 --> 01:47:13.319 Dude. 2286 01:47:13.920 --> 01:47:16.760 At this point, you should watch Chiefs games with no anxiety. 2287 01:47:16.920 --> 01:47:19.560 In my opinion, they just always seem to figure it out. 2288 01:47:20.000 --> 01:47:23.439 They'll stub their toe here there, they'll be there in February. 2289 01:47:23.479 --> 01:47:26.359 They're probably gonna win the damn thing again. But anyway, 2290 01:47:26.439 --> 01:47:29.880 moving on, I don't mean this disrespectfully to Rashul Faison, 2291 01:47:30.039 --> 01:47:33.520 who is a very competent back. He goes for a 2292 01:47:33.600 --> 01:47:37.119 buck fifteen. But Utah's about si Ali Gordon, all right. 2293 01:47:37.239 --> 01:47:39.039 He won the joke Walker, as we all know. And 2294 01:47:39.760 --> 01:47:41.920 I would imagine if you're Morgan Scalley, I would imagine 2295 01:47:41.920 --> 01:47:44.199 if you're Kyle Whittingham, you're watching that game film and 2296 01:47:44.239 --> 01:47:47.239 you're a little bit concerned about Utah State going for 2297 01:47:47.319 --> 01:47:50.039 what three eighty five on oh, I would imagine this week, 2298 01:47:50.119 --> 01:47:54.039 the defense has it a pretty intense task to improve 2299 01:47:54.119 --> 01:47:54.960 prior to Saturday. 2300 01:47:55.720 --> 01:47:59.560 Well, it's funny because you can't really just luging. Alan 2301 01:47:59.640 --> 01:48:02.800 Bowman a good quarterback. Now, he's as old as Cam Rising. 2302 01:48:02.880 --> 01:48:04.960 He's played more football than Rising. But he's good, and 2303 01:48:04.960 --> 01:48:07.880 they've got good receivers. They're pretty balanced. But yeah, you're 2304 01:48:07.880 --> 01:48:09.560 always gonna hear coaches. He'll probably say it on the 2305 01:48:09.600 --> 01:48:11.920 Coaches Show tonight. Get to stop the run first and 2306 01:48:12.079 --> 01:48:14.880 Oli Gordon ran for seventeen hundred yards and twenty one 2307 01:48:14.960 --> 01:48:17.840 touchdowns a year ago up to a little bit slower 2308 01:48:17.920 --> 01:48:20.640 start this year. And I'm not sure why yet. I 2309 01:48:20.720 --> 01:48:23.199 haven't kind of dug into Oklahoma State stuff yet, but 2310 01:48:23.560 --> 01:48:27.159 he's really good and I think part of its spence 2311 01:48:27.319 --> 01:48:29.800 is karennie Reid didn't play Saturday, and he missed the 2312 01:48:29.880 --> 01:48:32.880 second half of the game against Baylor the week before. 2313 01:48:33.680 --> 01:48:37.880 And as good as Lander Barton is, karennie Reid's kind 2314 01:48:37.920 --> 01:48:40.479 of the kind of the heart and soul and the 2315 01:48:40.600 --> 01:48:43.600 eyes and ears of that defense getting everybody in the 2316 01:48:43.720 --> 01:48:46.399 right place. And I think there was probably a little 2317 01:48:46.399 --> 01:48:49.319 bit of an adjustment period without krennie Reid last week. 2318 01:48:49.920 --> 01:48:52.720 So whether it's so Ony fo two or it's John 2319 01:48:52.800 --> 01:48:56.239 new Hall this week that steps in at that linebacker spot, whoever, 2320 01:48:56.319 --> 01:48:59.399 it is more responsibility on Lander Barton because he's kind 2321 01:48:59.439 --> 01:49:01.840 of the veteran in there. But those guys have to 2322 01:49:01.920 --> 01:49:04.159 be in the gaps and tackle better than they were 2323 01:49:04.159 --> 01:49:07.600 a week ago. Because you're right, Faison's a solid running back, 2324 01:49:08.000 --> 01:49:10.840 Ollie Gordon's and NFL he'll be playing on Sundays running 2325 01:49:10.880 --> 01:49:14.000 back and if you don't doesn't stop the run. Oklahoma 2326 01:49:14.000 --> 01:49:15.079 State will run it all day long. 2327 01:49:16.239 --> 01:49:19.199 So just to follow up, is the anticipation that Utah 2328 01:49:19.279 --> 01:49:20.840 goes to still Water without Karena? 2329 01:49:22.760 --> 01:49:23.239 I think so. 2330 01:49:24.359 --> 01:49:27.079 I saw him last week and he had a walking 2331 01:49:27.159 --> 01:49:31.600 boot on, so my anticipation is, yes, that's probably the case. 2332 01:49:31.800 --> 01:49:33.720 I don't know. Again, I haven't been over the facility 2333 01:49:33.800 --> 01:49:36.159 yet this week, but when I saw him last week, 2334 01:49:36.199 --> 01:49:38.199 he was in a walking boot and said it might 2335 01:49:38.279 --> 01:49:40.239 be a little while, So we'll see what happens. 2336 01:49:41.079 --> 01:49:43.479 Okay, all right, So as of now, I kind of 2337 01:49:43.479 --> 01:49:45.680 feel about the running back position as I do about 2338 01:49:45.680 --> 01:49:46.640 the quarterback position. 2339 01:49:46.720 --> 01:49:49.560 It's pretty clear mackay is the guy. But the more 2340 01:49:49.600 --> 01:49:51.319 and more I watch Mike, I think there's a lot 2341 01:49:51.399 --> 01:49:51.680 to like. 2342 01:49:51.840 --> 01:49:54.520 So does it feel like it settled into Mackay and 2343 01:49:54.640 --> 01:49:56.399 Mike and then maybe with a side I'm not going 2344 01:49:56.439 --> 01:49:58.119 to do the mustard joke I almost did, but with 2345 01:49:58.199 --> 01:50:01.079 a side of Dijon Stanle outside of those two, does 2346 01:50:01.159 --> 01:50:02.520 that feel like that's where we've landed? 2347 01:50:03.319 --> 01:50:03.880 Yeah? I think so. 2348 01:50:04.039 --> 01:50:06.600 I mean McKay has established himself as running back one, 2349 01:50:07.279 --> 01:50:09.359 and really Mike Mitchell has been good. He's just got 2350 01:50:09.439 --> 01:50:11.359 a I think Kyle's noted it a couple of times. 2351 01:50:11.359 --> 01:50:13.199 He's got a little bit of a nagging ankle thing 2352 01:50:13.760 --> 01:50:16.439 that will flare up during games. But I thought he 2353 01:50:16.600 --> 01:50:19.800 ran really well last week. I really did. I thought 2354 01:50:19.840 --> 01:50:22.479 he ran the ball really really well. He had seventy 2355 01:50:22.560 --> 01:50:25.039 five yards, made a tough inside running. But yeah, I 2356 01:50:25.079 --> 01:50:28.479 think those two have established themselves as RB one and 2357 01:50:28.680 --> 01:50:32.960 RB two. Then you've got Dijon Stanley, a little Charlie Vincent. 2358 01:50:33.600 --> 01:50:36.039 Not sure what's going on with Jalen Glover. Didn't see 2359 01:50:36.119 --> 01:50:39.039 him last week, but he's got some experience too. But 2360 01:50:39.199 --> 01:50:41.560 I definitely think it's Bernard and Mitchell as one and two. 2361 01:50:43.279 --> 01:50:45.720 Let me follow up about Jalen who we saw go 2362 01:50:45.920 --> 01:50:48.920 for a bucko seven against Colorado last year. We saw 2363 01:50:49.079 --> 01:50:51.840 him with a really good game and a tough win 2364 01:50:51.880 --> 01:50:54.880 against UCLA a year ago. And you even go back 2365 01:50:54.920 --> 01:50:57.720 a couple of years, you know, twenty carries seventy six 2366 01:50:57.840 --> 01:51:00.319 years on the polue in a big win thirteen sixty 2367 01:51:00.319 --> 01:51:04.760 to a touchdown at Colorado. We've seen Jalen Glover play 2368 01:51:04.800 --> 01:51:08.159 the running back position at Utah very efficiently at times. 2369 01:51:08.319 --> 01:51:11.119 Is this just like, hey, the room's crowded, or is 2370 01:51:11.119 --> 01:51:12.720 there anything else beyond that that you're. 2371 01:51:12.600 --> 01:51:15.520 Hearing that, I don't know. I think it's a crowded 2372 01:51:15.600 --> 01:51:18.399 room as much as anything else. I think Jalen is 2373 01:51:18.520 --> 01:51:21.479 one of those really solid running backs, but a couple 2374 01:51:21.520 --> 01:51:23.239 of the other guys might just have a little bit 2375 01:51:23.279 --> 01:51:26.199 more juice. But I don't I haven't heard her known 2376 01:51:26.239 --> 01:51:29.520 anything that would say anything otherwise. I just think right 2377 01:51:29.680 --> 01:51:33.279 now that Mitchell is a young guy who really if 2378 01:51:33.319 --> 01:51:35.560 he would have played last fall he kind of red 2379 01:51:35.600 --> 01:51:38.439 shirted last fall, might have popped just a little bit. 2380 01:51:38.479 --> 01:51:40.039 He was kind of learning the whole position. But they 2381 01:51:40.159 --> 01:51:43.239 just love his overall skill set. And you know, Mackai 2382 01:51:43.279 --> 01:51:44.880 Bernartchsman in the program for a little while. 2383 01:51:45.840 --> 01:51:48.479 You know, Bill, most smart people who follow sports know 2384 01:51:48.600 --> 01:51:50.359 that basketball players just do it better. 2385 01:51:50.560 --> 01:51:50.720 You know. 2386 01:51:50.800 --> 01:51:53.279 That's not me, that's other people that follow sports. So 2387 01:51:53.479 --> 01:51:55.239 I mean, it's just kind of a decent take here. 2388 01:51:56.119 --> 01:51:59.880 I gotta say, man, first of all, respect to Caleb 2389 01:52:00.119 --> 01:52:00.840 or even trying this. 2390 01:52:01.600 --> 01:52:03.800 You know, basketball player at Utah. 2391 01:52:03.760 --> 01:52:07.279 BYU and Baylor, and I can remember watching him all 2392 01:52:07.319 --> 01:52:08.960 the way back in high school and just thinking like 2393 01:52:09.079 --> 01:52:12.840 that kid is an absolute beast of an athlete who 2394 01:52:12.960 --> 01:52:15.920 needs to learn how to play basketball at a high level, 2395 01:52:16.079 --> 01:52:18.720 just with a more complete skill set as he decides 2396 01:52:18.760 --> 01:52:20.920 to level up. If he ever wants to be a 2397 01:52:21.000 --> 01:52:24.119 pro basketball player, he's got to just get He's never 2398 01:52:24.199 --> 01:52:26.239 had a great feel for the game overall. 2399 01:52:26.359 --> 01:52:28.079 He was never a great shooter and never a great pastor. 2400 01:52:28.159 --> 01:52:30.880 But what he was is an insane athlete that would 2401 01:52:30.920 --> 01:52:33.039 dunk on your head and go get fifteen boards, you know, 2402 01:52:33.159 --> 01:52:36.640 while napping through a game. So the skill set translates. 2403 01:52:36.800 --> 01:52:38.520 I give him a ton of credit for trying this 2404 01:52:39.239 --> 01:52:42.520 beautiful ball from Isaac. Another red zone target for Caleb. 2405 01:52:42.560 --> 01:52:45.640 It feels like coach Coach loved. They've got themselves a 2406 01:52:45.680 --> 01:52:47.640 pretty special red zone weapon, doesn't it. 2407 01:52:49.079 --> 01:52:49.520 It does? 2408 01:52:49.960 --> 01:52:53.119 And he just the athleticism pops. I love the fact 2409 01:52:53.119 --> 01:52:55.680 that they called that plate dunk. We talked to him 2410 01:52:55.720 --> 01:52:58.600 after the game and Isaac said, they called that plate dunk, 2411 01:52:59.319 --> 01:53:01.239 so it's throw it up to the big guy and 2412 01:53:01.319 --> 01:53:02.039 let him go get it. 2413 01:53:02.119 --> 01:53:02.880 The funny thing is. 2414 01:53:02.920 --> 01:53:06.239 Two spence when you see him running around and you 2415 01:53:06.279 --> 01:53:07.920 don't see it as much in the game, but you're 2416 01:53:08.039 --> 01:53:09.399 a little bit more in the game now. But when 2417 01:53:09.399 --> 01:53:12.159 I saw him running around to practice this fall, he 2418 01:53:12.399 --> 01:53:14.840 just looked. I mean, he doesn't look out of place. 2419 01:53:14.960 --> 01:53:17.720 That's the weird thing. Is he as fluid yet as 2420 01:53:17.800 --> 01:53:20.439 Brand Keith, he will know. But Brand's, you know, an 2421 01:53:20.479 --> 01:53:24.479 All American caliber tight end. Caleb Loner hasn't played football 2422 01:53:24.560 --> 01:53:26.960 since seventh grade. Seventh grade was the last time he 2423 01:53:27.000 --> 01:53:29.680 played football that he turned into a basketball player. So 2424 01:53:29.840 --> 01:53:31.720 for this guy to be able to come out having 2425 01:53:31.840 --> 01:53:35.199 that played football since seventh grade and make a tangible 2426 01:53:35.319 --> 01:53:38.720 impact on the field with really one fault he didn't 2427 01:53:38.720 --> 01:53:41.560 play in the spring one fault camp under his belt's 2428 01:53:41.600 --> 01:53:43.800 pretty amazing. And then the other great part about it 2429 01:53:44.000 --> 01:53:47.039 is is that tight end rue is loaded. Carson Ryan 2430 01:53:47.239 --> 01:53:49.640 got a touchdown pass and you saw his hand Saturday. 2431 01:53:49.920 --> 01:53:52.640 We know what Keith he can do. Heck Landon King, 2432 01:53:53.119 --> 01:53:54.479 who I thought was going to be poised to have 2433 01:53:54.520 --> 01:53:57.359 a breakout maybe still could, doesn't even have a catch 2434 01:53:57.439 --> 01:53:59.279 yet this year we saw how good he was. Last 2435 01:53:59.359 --> 01:54:02.680 year Teethey didn't play. They've got kind of an embarrassment 2436 01:54:02.680 --> 01:54:03.920 of riches in that tight end room. 2437 01:54:04.880 --> 01:54:07.600 So through three games, Bill, I always talk about this 2438 01:54:07.800 --> 01:54:10.439 up until conference starts, and then even maybe the first 2439 01:54:10.479 --> 01:54:12.640 couple of games of conference play, when I just say, 2440 01:54:13.359 --> 01:54:16.279 observation out conclusion, you know, like that's why I wasn't 2441 01:54:16.319 --> 01:54:20.199 concerned about Isaac. You know, after the SUU and then 2442 01:54:20.239 --> 01:54:22.000 the Baylor game, I said on air it had to 2443 01:54:22.079 --> 01:54:23.760 be better, and it did, but it was I mean, 2444 01:54:24.319 --> 01:54:26.840 what you look for, as you know as well as anyone, 2445 01:54:27.000 --> 01:54:28.680 is just week by week improvements. 2446 01:54:29.239 --> 01:54:31.760 Are you seeing through three games? Have you seen week 2447 01:54:31.840 --> 01:54:32.880 by week improvement? 2448 01:54:33.000 --> 01:54:35.680 And attendant to that, what do you feel like you're 2449 01:54:35.760 --> 01:54:39.399 confident today to say that you know about Utah through 2450 01:54:39.479 --> 01:54:40.920 three games, and what do you feel like needs to 2451 01:54:40.960 --> 01:54:41.319 get better? 2452 01:54:42.600 --> 01:54:47.119 Well, I think, well, it's just a quarterback play, meaning 2453 01:54:47.359 --> 01:54:49.520 pick one guy. But I think we get that back 2454 01:54:49.600 --> 01:54:51.239 to I think we get it back this week with 2455 01:54:51.359 --> 01:54:53.800 Cam Rising. Although I will say, and back to your 2456 01:54:53.840 --> 01:54:56.800 point we started off talking about Isaac Isaac Wilson. I 2457 01:54:56.880 --> 01:54:58.399 think if you're a Utah fan, you're got to be 2458 01:54:58.439 --> 01:55:00.680 thrilled with what the potential for the future is. And 2459 01:55:01.159 --> 01:55:03.840 it's always kind of been year to year when quarterbacks left, 2460 01:55:03.880 --> 01:55:05.640 it's like, what do we have coming with us next one? 2461 01:55:05.680 --> 01:55:08.840 I think we know with Isaac Wilson, I've been most impressed. 2462 01:55:08.880 --> 01:55:11.960 I think Spence with the improvement of the secondary I 2463 01:55:12.000 --> 01:55:14.000 think it was probably a little bit unsure of that 2464 01:55:14.159 --> 01:55:17.520 with the two safeties they lost in the corners and 2465 01:55:17.600 --> 01:55:19.920 then they lose Kennan Johnson in the first game. But 2466 01:55:20.520 --> 01:55:23.399 to see Zamaya Vaughn and to see Scooby Davis, and 2467 01:55:23.520 --> 01:55:27.000 to see Theo Johnson, and to see Nate Ritchie and 2468 01:55:27.119 --> 01:55:29.600 to see that kid Cameron Calhoun come in and get 2469 01:55:29.640 --> 01:55:32.039 his first real bit of playing time and have an interception. 2470 01:55:32.159 --> 01:55:34.680 In the past breakup, I think I've probably seen the 2471 01:55:34.720 --> 01:55:38.319 most improvement in that secondary. What I want to see 2472 01:55:38.359 --> 01:55:41.800 being a little bit better, probably playing the run game, 2473 01:55:42.520 --> 01:55:45.600 just because Baylor had some moments and then Utah State 2474 01:55:45.720 --> 01:55:48.479 had some moments. And we both know that Baylor and 2475 01:55:48.600 --> 01:55:51.479 Utah State aren't quite the caliber of Oklahoma State. So 2476 01:55:52.279 --> 01:55:55.159 if anything, if I want a nitpick, I'd probably say, 2477 01:55:55.399 --> 01:55:57.079 let's see how they play against the run. 2478 01:55:57.039 --> 01:55:59.760 This week, all right before I say you lose. You 2479 01:56:00.399 --> 01:56:02.760 is now a two point favorite. That could change. That 2480 01:56:02.880 --> 01:56:06.479 line has moved like four times, opened up slightly in 2481 01:56:06.560 --> 01:56:09.399 the direction of the Cowboys, uh swung the way of 2482 01:56:09.439 --> 01:56:09.840 the Utes. 2483 01:56:09.840 --> 01:56:11.600 It's now settled Utah minus two. 2484 01:56:12.279 --> 01:56:14.720 Never been to Boone Picking Stadium, never been a stillwater 2485 01:56:14.880 --> 01:56:18.159 maybe one day if dreams come true. But what ultimately 2486 01:56:18.279 --> 01:56:20.399 do you feel like Utah needs to do to go 2487 01:56:20.600 --> 01:56:23.039 on the road and get what would be a massive 2488 01:56:23.079 --> 01:56:25.039 early statement win to the rest of the Big twelve. 2489 01:56:25.880 --> 01:56:28.520 Well, I think they need a good start spence. They 2490 01:56:28.640 --> 01:56:33.039 can't fall behind like they did to Utah State, because 2491 01:56:33.079 --> 01:56:35.279 that place is going to be loud. It's a little bit, 2492 01:56:35.520 --> 01:56:37.920 just slightly bigger than rice Ecles, but it's right in 2493 01:56:38.000 --> 01:56:41.720 that same range. But it's loud and it's it'll be full. 2494 01:56:41.840 --> 01:56:44.000 And those are those are the Oklahoma State fans, a 2495 01:56:44.039 --> 01:56:48.560 great fans. So I think Utah offensively, you know, needs 2496 01:56:48.640 --> 01:56:52.560 to get some some some momentum going early. And I 2497 01:56:52.720 --> 01:56:55.239 think you again, just a hard heart back on what 2498 01:56:55.319 --> 01:56:58.720 we've talked about, you know, make make them throw on 2499 01:56:58.840 --> 01:57:01.239 you a little bit, make make them drop back. Alan 2500 01:57:01.359 --> 01:57:04.880 Bowman has played seven years of college football. He's played 2501 01:57:04.880 --> 01:57:07.359 at Texas Tech, He's played at Michigan, now he's played 2502 01:57:07.399 --> 01:57:10.640 it at Oklahoma State. He's a good quarterback. But let 2503 01:57:10.720 --> 01:57:16.279 guys like Fillinger and O'Toole and Fano and Tofoon and 2504 01:57:16.319 --> 01:57:19.920 those guys upfront create a little bit of pressure. And 2505 01:57:20.279 --> 01:57:24.439 if they can do that, I think Utah has a 2506 01:57:24.520 --> 01:57:26.319 real good chance to go in there and hang with 2507 01:57:26.399 --> 01:57:27.479 Oklahoma State and get a win. 2508 01:57:29.800 --> 01:57:32.319 All Right, Ryles, appreciate the time man, save travels and 2509 01:57:32.399 --> 01:57:32.960 have a great call. 2510 01:57:33.039 --> 01:57:37.159 Okay, all right, thanks Ben Bill Riley, Voice of the Utes. 2511 01:57:37.520 --> 01:57:41.520 Coming up, Utah is going to still Water two o'clock 2512 01:57:41.600 --> 01:57:42.239 on Saturday. 2513 01:57:42.319 --> 01:57:43.680 That game is actually on Fox. 2514 01:57:43.840 --> 01:57:46.039 You can listen to it on our radio station as 2515 01:57:46.039 --> 01:57:48.880 your Home of the Utes, with pregame coverage beginning at 2516 01:57:48.960 --> 01:57:49.600 ten am.