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Speaker 2: week two Pro football slates finished last night with a
Speaker 2: little Monday Night football and turned into a really good game.
Speaker 2: It was kind of a back and forth lugfest for
Speaker 2: a while. Kirk Cousins and the Atlanta Falcons come back
Speaker 2: to be Jalen hurts in the Philadelphia Eagles twenty two
Speaker 2: to twenty one. Great Monday night game. You heard it,
Speaker 2: of course, right here on ESPN seven hundred. We are
Speaker 2: your home of the NFL here in our market. So
Speaker 2: Week three of pro football will get rolling coming up.
Speaker 2: It's kind of a funky schedule. Get a couple of
Speaker 2: Monday night games next week Thursday.
Speaker 1: This once upon a time was a proud rivalry. Not
Speaker 1: so much anymore.
Speaker 2: But the Patriots and the Jets get things rolling coming
Speaker 2: up on Thursday from metlif You can hear that game
Speaker 2: here out of ESBN seven hundred. And then we'll culmin
Speaker 2: eights next week for some NFL with the Jags and
Speaker 2: the Bills and the Commanders and the Bengals.
Speaker 1: So two Monday night games.
Speaker 2: The Bills will be the home team at Orchard Park
Speaker 2: there and Cincinnati hosts the Commander's Bengal Zone.
Speaker 3: Two.
Speaker 2: Man, they got to get off the night, so for
Speaker 2: football comes to an end last night.
Speaker 1: Now a lot of attention as.
Speaker 2: You would expect on the upcoming slate in college football.
Speaker 2: We'll get to the latest with the Utes, We'll get
Speaker 2: to the latest with BYU Utah State as well. Talk
Speaker 2: some big twelve football get you ready for essentially, you know,
Speaker 2: we did have UCF and TCU last week, but.
Speaker 1: Essentially the first week of conference played.
Speaker 2: For the most part, some teams have played some conference
Speaker 2: game games. But I'm gonna learn a lot. I think
Speaker 2: we'll learn a lot about both Utah and BYU as
Speaker 2: now that the non con has come to a close,
Speaker 2: stuff's about to get real as case stay rose in
Speaker 2: a provo and Utah will head to still Water. So
Speaker 2: both Utah and kse State playing some rich excuse me,
Speaker 2: both Utah and BYU playing some really tough competition coming up,
Speaker 2: and that's what makes it fun. CBS Sports released their
Speaker 2: rankings of NBA head coaches. A little love for Will
Speaker 2: Hardy today. We'll get to that coming up on the program.
Speaker 2: RSL Badly in need of a result tomorrow in Sandy
Speaker 2: Dallas is in town. RSL takeing on FC Dallas. That's
Speaker 2: a seven thirty kicktime. Head on over to RSL dot
Speaker 2: com for single game tickets. So we got a lot
Speaker 2: of football. We got some pro football, college football, little RSL,
Speaker 2: a little love for Will Hardy, and a good guest list.
Speaker 2: We'll start things off today with Jason Christ from ray
Speaker 2: Al Saul Lake, who instantly enough might still be the
Speaker 2: all time goalscorer, the leader and goals for the Dallas
Speaker 2: organization is in town tomorrow, so bring j in. We'll
Speaker 2: do a little RSL off top Matt Brown from Extra Points,
Speaker 2: one of my favorites to talk the business to college
Speaker 2: football with. So Matt stops by, Scott Mitchell, former Ute
Speaker 2: and NFL quarterback. Then the voice of the Utes himself,
Speaker 2: Bill Riley stops by the show. Now we are on
Speaker 2: the Bill Riley Mullet Watch. I keep forgetting to bring
Speaker 2: that up preseason on the program, Bill agreed to grow
Speaker 2: a mullet. If Utah football goes undefeated in the regular season,
Speaker 2: we need twelve you wins and we're gonna get riles
Speaker 2: in a mullet con football game.
Speaker 1: So I mean we all should be on board for that.
Speaker 2: So we've got Jason Christ, Matt Brown, Scott Mitchell, Bill Riley,
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Speaker 2: So, big weekend ahead in the landscape of local college football,
Speaker 2: and I do think we're gonna learn a lot about
Speaker 2: BYU and Utah coming up with the opponents being a
Speaker 2: little bit different. It's not just conference play. Both BYU
Speaker 2: and Utah will play two of potentially the three or
Speaker 2: four best teams in the conference. So coming up two
Speaker 2: pm on Fox on Saturday, Utah is in Stillwater where
Speaker 2: this line has been funky. Right now, Utah is a
Speaker 2: two point favorite. It started out Okay Okay State about
Speaker 2: minus one point five, moved to the Utes, went back
Speaker 2: to Okay Okay State. Now it's back at Utah. Over
Speaker 2: under is fifty four point five. Okay, it's a big number.
Speaker 2: I point that out because Vegas has to be operating
Speaker 2: off the assumption that Cameron Rising is going to be
Speaker 2: under quarterback, under center playing quarterback. We're operating off the
Speaker 2: same assumption. Just so you guys know, all the intel
Speaker 2: we have at this point is that Cameron will play
Speaker 2: booms Picken Stadium. It's about the same size as Rice Ecles.
Speaker 2: It gets loud just like Ecles. It'll be jam packed
Speaker 2: and it's gonna be hot. The ACU weather game time
Speaker 2: forecast is ninety four degrees and Sunny Fox has picked
Speaker 2: this up. You can watch it on Fox, of course,
Speaker 2: you can hear it on ESPN seven hundred. As were
Speaker 2: you're home of the Utes and as been and have
Speaker 2: been for decades and decades and decades. Porter glad you're
Speaker 2: taken care of with pregame coverage and that's going to
Speaker 2: start at ten o'clock on Saturday, so stay tuned for
Speaker 2: that and BYU for their task this week, they welcome
Speaker 2: in a team in k State that I still think
Speaker 2: Iowa State probably has the best win in the conference
Speaker 2: right now because they beat Iowa on the road. But
Speaker 2: k State undressed Arizona last week and that was a
Speaker 2: Friday that game, so we were able to kind of
Speaker 2: watch that thing.
Speaker 1: They gashed him on the ground.
Speaker 2: Now BYU's defense this year has been phenomenal. Their season,
Speaker 2: to me, will be predicated on how the quarterback stuff
Speaker 2: kind of plays out.
Speaker 1: Can Jake figure it out?
Speaker 2: Can he stop making the mistakes that we saw in
Speaker 2: four starts last year and that we've seen in the
Speaker 2: first three starts this year BYU th you know, back
Speaker 2: to back years.
Speaker 1: Will it be different? You guys remember last year they
Speaker 1: lost their final five.
Speaker 2: Games and did not go to a bowl game, leading
Speaker 2: a lot of people to really put a lot of
Speaker 2: pressure Dennis Dodd and other national riders on Kolani and
Speaker 2: his staff saying they're on watch this year if things
Speaker 2: don't go better.
Speaker 1: So a massive, massive task for.
Speaker 2: Kilane and BYU welcoming in K State to provo they
Speaker 2: get that win. They're off to four and ZHO my
Speaker 2: guests would be they beat K State at home, they're
Speaker 2: going to be ranked in the top twenty five heading
Speaker 2: on the road to Baylor and then home against Arizona. Now,
Speaker 2: of course, Utah already highly ranked their twelfth in the
Speaker 2: nation according to the AP, and this would be a
Speaker 2: statement game for Big twelve football fans that aren't necessarily
Speaker 2: comfortable welcoming in the Utah UTAs and now, and there's
Speaker 2: a lot of you, I see you, I hear you,
Speaker 2: And there are a lot of people, I think and
Speaker 2: I understand why kind of rooting for Utah to not
Speaker 2: do well in their first year in the Big twelve,
Speaker 2: because let's call it how it is. Utah came into
Speaker 2: the Big twelve with a lot of bravado, a lot
Speaker 2: of earned bravado. And by the way, you could make
Speaker 2: the case that out of all the four corner schools
Speaker 2: that made the jump to the Big twelve, Utah really
Speaker 2: is the only one so far that looks like that
Speaker 2: looks like it belongs with the physicality.
Speaker 1: Of the conference, not with the ebbs and flows.
Speaker 2: I mean, we'll see what Arizona State does because they're
Speaker 2: clean as of now as well. But Arizona in that
Speaker 2: game against KSE State, K State bullied them, they pushed
Speaker 2: them around. Arizona's one of those teams that a lot
Speaker 2: of people thought, you know, coming in from the Pac twelve,
Speaker 2: had a chance to win the Big twelve year one,
Speaker 2: not at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, k State just pushed them around.
Speaker 2: It's not that Arizona doesn't have a good skill position players,
Speaker 2: it's ultimately that they don't have the dudes in the trenches.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if Arizona State does. I know Colorado
Speaker 2: does not. This could be a situation where Utah is
Speaker 2: the one Pac twelve team heading into Big twelve play
Speaker 2: that looks like it stacks up physically with every other team. Hey, look,
Speaker 2: we're used to Utah football and their physicality actually being
Speaker 2: a mismatch, right, So it's not just stacking up. It's
Speaker 2: also ken Utah's brand of football that was so successful
Speaker 2: in the Pac twelve read the same type of success
Speaker 2: in the Big twelve right out of the gates, and
Speaker 2: now we're gonna start to learn whether or not it's
Speaker 2: that that's the case, coming up at Okay State, number
Speaker 2: fourteen ranked team in the country, and excited to see
Speaker 2: how it plays out, right, So you know, throughout the
Speaker 2: course of the week, we'll continue to kind of preview
Speaker 2: this game. We have good guests to talk about it
Speaker 2: today as well. Of course we'll give you our pick
Speaker 2: coming up on Friday before the game. But both Utah
Speaker 2: and BYU off to three and oh starts heading into
Speaker 2: conference play, and both teams of state queen real quick,
Speaker 2: real quick, before we catch our first break, We're gonna
Speaker 2: just give Will Hardy a little bit of love just
Speaker 2: out of nowhere here, because if you listen to the show,
Speaker 2: you know, oftentimes I talk about you know, Will as
Speaker 2: a third year head coach, is he getting frustrated that
Speaker 2: he doesn't have the horses just yet, and I can't
Speaker 2: speak to that.
Speaker 1: I don't have an answer there.
Speaker 2: But CBS put out their rankings of NBA coaches today
Speaker 2: and they put Will at number seven, which I thought
Speaker 2: was really really high and you know, really complimentary ultimately
Speaker 2: of who Will Hardy is.
Speaker 1: So we're not gonna do a lot of jazz day.
Speaker 2: It's mostly gonna be football, but I wanted to kind
Speaker 2: of bring that on airon case you missed it. According
Speaker 2: to CBS Sports, Will Hardy the seventh ranked coach in
Speaker 2: the NBA.
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Speaker 2: Back to little college football coming up in just a
Speaker 2: little bit, we're gonna bring in Matt Brown from Extra
Speaker 2: Points for all the latest on well, the business side
Speaker 2: Pac twelve expansion, what it means potentially for the Big
Speaker 2: Twelve in the ACC and some interesting details about television
Speaker 2: windows and when the Big Twelve is actually being selected
Speaker 2: to play in certain windows. We only have one of
Speaker 2: the seven games I believe decided coming up on the
Speaker 2: twenty ninth. I think that's the Arizona Utah game. Is
Speaker 2: the only kicktime that's been decided. It's late. I know
Speaker 2: fans are upset bringing Matt Brown. We also have Scott Mitchell,
Speaker 2: Bill Riley too, but joining me now right off the top.
Speaker 2: You know it's gonna be football coming up this weekend,
Speaker 2: but a little RSL soccer and kind of a sneaky
Speaker 2: big match is Dallas is in town. Our next guest
Speaker 2: is the all time leading scorer from the Dallas BYRNE
Speaker 2: and now part of the brain trust at Rayale Salt Lake,
Speaker 2: Jason Christ on a Tuesday afternoon, Jay, Happy Tuesday, buddy, How.
Speaker 7: Are you doing I'm doing great.
Speaker 8: How are you?
Speaker 2: Are you still the all time leading scorer of the
Speaker 2: Dallas Burne FC Dallas franchise?
Speaker 9: I think so.
Speaker 7: I think nobody else lasted as long as playing there
Speaker 7: as me. There was guys that scored more goals per season,
Speaker 7: but I don't think anybody else spent nine years there.
Speaker 9: So yeah, I think it's still fine.
Speaker 2: Longevity is important, but you can't tell me.
Speaker 1: You don't know for sure. If somebody broke your record,
Speaker 1: you would know, Jay, right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm just trying to remember.
Speaker 9: I know Hydys Ferrera is close.
Speaker 5: Was close.
Speaker 7: Maybe that was a single season. There's something there that
Speaker 7: he's getting close to breaking my record on.
Speaker 2: So yeah, is there when RSL plays formerly the Dallas
Speaker 2: for an FC Dallas? Does that conjure up any Jason
Speaker 2: christ weird feelings one way or the other?
Speaker 7: No, it doesn't anymore. After you've gone from that club
Speaker 7: to here, to New York, Orlando to Miami, your memory
Speaker 7: runs a little thin.
Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 10: Jay?
Speaker 2: You know, what do you say about Houston? What do
Speaker 2: you say about Saturday? It was it was bad. Pablo
Speaker 2: owned it after the game during media. I don't know, man,
Speaker 2: It feels like you and I have been chatting on
Speaker 2: a weekly basis about a team that once upon a
Speaker 2: time had a fifteen game on beaten streak and was
Speaker 2: atop of the table in MLS, and now Jay, it
Speaker 2: feels like there's a bit of a slide going on.
Speaker 1: Are what are your thoughts.
Speaker 2: Both on Houston over the weekend and where you guys
Speaker 2: are at from a macro level.
Speaker 9: Yeah, not good, obviously not good.
Speaker 7: None of us are happy I think all of us
Speaker 7: feel a bit of angst, a bit of frustration. There's
Speaker 7: a whole lot of questioning now about where the problems
Speaker 7: lie and how we can move forward. But there's one
Speaker 7: thing that's clear in my mind after spending yesterday with
Speaker 7: the coaching staff is that we're all still in this
Speaker 7: very much together, and also there's a belief that this
Speaker 7: team can get back to where it was before or
Speaker 7: even actually be better. I think it's it's typical that
Speaker 7: every MLS team is going to go through a slide.
Speaker 7: We we, I feel like, have had been on a
Speaker 7: little bit of prolonged one.
Speaker 9: As I've said now many times.
Speaker 7: For me, there's been some results that have gone our
Speaker 7: way or met perhaps maybe we weren't quite there, but
Speaker 7: to be fair, through this, through this run, there's also
Speaker 7: been a result or two that actually felt we deserved more.
Speaker 7: And so now it's I think it's a time just
Speaker 7: to continue to move forward. It's a time to realize
Speaker 7: that we're getting to the end of the season. It's
Speaker 7: a time for everybody to come together, really really together
Speaker 7: and understand one thing. In my opinion, I think it
Speaker 7: needs to be simplified now to the point where the
Speaker 7: players need to understand that you must out work the opponent.
Speaker 7: If we have a chance to win anything here, it's
Speaker 7: going to come through a collective effort. It is not
Speaker 7: going to come through individual star players or star players.
Speaker 1: So every sport matchups are real.
Speaker 2: Oftentimes it's what leads to great results or following flat
Speaker 2: on your face if you just simply don't match up
Speaker 2: with another team very well, or the other team simply
Speaker 2: doesn't match up with you. I mean, it's just how
Speaker 2: it is. It doesn't matter what sport it is. What
Speaker 2: is it, Jay Like, I think it's one five and
Speaker 2: three over the last nine for you guys against Like,
Speaker 2: what's have you been able to identify with why this
Speaker 2: club has been so problematic for you guys?
Speaker 7: I think you know, as we talked about last week,
Speaker 7: I think for me, first and foremost is just the
Speaker 7: differences in climates.
Speaker 9: Last week. It was really difficult to go into the
Speaker 9: end of that week.
Speaker 7: Thinking about, oh, we've got a cold front coming through
Speaker 7: here in Salt Lake, so our guys are now training
Speaker 7: in fifty and sixty degree weather and they go down
Speaker 7: there for a ninety degree game. So you could see
Speaker 7: from my perspective, you could see pretty clearly that there
Speaker 7: was a level of fatigue and exhaustion that just is
Speaker 7: it seems out of place, but it is what it is.
Speaker 7: And then I think there's also a little bit of
Speaker 7: the tactics of Houston.
Speaker 3: And how good they are with the ball.
Speaker 7: We often times are the are the dominant possession team
Speaker 7: and most of the matches that we play, and we
Speaker 7: enjoy that, and I think the guy's getting confidence from that.
Speaker 7: And then we go play against a team like Houston
Speaker 7: in Houston and now they have the ball for the
Speaker 7: majority of the time, and so I think that creates
Speaker 7: a level of disco.
Speaker 9: In our group and creates a level.
Speaker 7: Of lack of confidence that that ultimately hurts our team.
Speaker 7: So we've got to we've got to figure out a
Speaker 7: way to not allow that level of unconfidence discomfort come
Speaker 7: into our guys feelings and minds.
Speaker 2: So I haven't addressed this, and we're gonna have Pablo
Speaker 2: on later in the week. I'll certainly ask him because
Speaker 2: this might be more of a question for him, and
Speaker 2: if it is, please go ahead and tell me. But
Speaker 2: you know, preseason, then the start of the season, whether
Speaker 2: I had coaches or players on a lot of the
Speaker 2: conversation was about this new system that Pablo and the
Speaker 2: new staff that he was given wanted to implement juxtaposed
Speaker 2: to what you guys tried to do over the past
Speaker 2: few years. Is that system something that needs to be reevaluated?
Speaker 2: What's the progress there? Have you guys considered changing things up?
Speaker 2: Because look, I mean, it is what it is. The
Speaker 2: results haven't been there as of late, So let's talk
Speaker 2: about that for a second. Where are you at with
Speaker 2: this system that we seem to talk a lot about,
Speaker 2: you know, three months ago or so.
Speaker 7: I think, yeah, I mean, I think that we should
Speaker 7: always be looking for answers and we should always be
Speaker 7: willing to challenge ourselves on whatever the issue can be.
Speaker 7: But what I would say right now is that there
Speaker 7: has been a clear identification on one thing, and that's
Speaker 7: the work rate, and we can and those those numbers
Speaker 7: are right in front of your eyes. Some of the
Speaker 7: system talks, you can start to get into some of
Speaker 7: the grayness of a lot of things.
Speaker 9: But when you have.
Speaker 7: Players that are being tracked by satellites or wearing GPS
Speaker 7: modules on their backs, and when a work level and
Speaker 7: a running level reaches a low point or as below average,
Speaker 7: and every time you do that, you lose.
Speaker 9: That's where you start first.
Speaker 7: And so and like I said before, I think we
Speaker 7: need to be very simple and very clear about how
Speaker 7: we put ourselves in a position to win games, and
Speaker 7: that is to outwork our opponent. It's very very clear, Spence,
Speaker 7: It's actually shocking to go back and look at the
Speaker 7: data and align at data when it was below average
Speaker 7: and then align that with the results. It's shockingly clear.
Speaker 7: If our guys don't outwork our opponents, we lose, as
Speaker 7: simple as that.
Speaker 2: So I've got to ask a follow up because this
Speaker 2: is the first time hearing of this, and maybe I'm
Speaker 2: the last one to know about it, but I'm interested
Speaker 2: to know what that tracking system looks like, what the
Speaker 2: ideology is behind it, and if you could shed any
Speaker 2: light and more details on how you guys are utilizing
Speaker 2: that to really identify exactly what your problems are.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So the players all wear GPS units on their back,
Speaker 7: some of them won't wear it just for you know,
Speaker 7: collective bargaining agreement type stuff. There's information that maybe they
Speaker 7: don't want everybody to know out there. For the players
Speaker 7: that don't their satellite tracking of their movements during every match.
Speaker 7: Oftentimes as a fan you'll see that because you'll see
Speaker 7: a player being subbed out, and it'll give you his
Speaker 7: total distance. Usually it's ten kilometers, which are usually between
Speaker 7: ten and fifteen kilometers that they've run per game. There's
Speaker 7: all kinds of other information that goes into that high
Speaker 7: speed running, high speed running per minute. There's all kinds
Speaker 7: of different data that can be looked at and analyzed
Speaker 7: and utilized. And so for us, we have several metrics
Speaker 7: that we track based upon our game model. And when
Speaker 7: those metrics have dropped below a certain level, like a
Speaker 7: mean let's call it, or an average, the results have
Speaker 7: been poor. And when those levels have been higher than
Speaker 7: our average, our results have been good. And on top
Speaker 7: of that, when you put those metrics against our opponents,
Speaker 7: when our opponent's levels are higher than ours, they win.
Speaker 7: And so this is what I mean when I say
Speaker 7: I think we need simple and clear messages to the
Speaker 7: players right now and not as basically, outwork your opponent
Speaker 7: and you give yourself a chance to win. If you don't,
Speaker 7: you won't.
Speaker 2: So I'm very fascinated at this dynamic all of a
Speaker 2: sudden here, and I'm not going to ask you to
Speaker 2: put individual players out there, and I know you wouldn't
Speaker 2: need anyway, but as this data indicated that there are
Speaker 2: specific players that need to be spoken to in very
Speaker 2: uncertain terms and have some of the starting lineup starting
Speaker 2: eleven and substitute decisions in line with the players where
Speaker 2: the data reflects that maybe they're not working the way
Speaker 2: that they need to.
Speaker 7: Yes, and yes, simple right, Yes, those conversations need to happen,
Speaker 7: and they will or have already happened.
Speaker 9: And yes, some.
Speaker 7: Decisions will be made based upon whether or not you run.
Speaker 7: And that's as simple as you can be. I think
Speaker 7: what you do is you make it very clear for
Speaker 7: the players that you know, if you're not in the lineup,
Speaker 7: it's probably because you haven't been working hard enough. If
Speaker 7: you're brought out of a game, it's probably because you
Speaker 7: haven't been running enough. And so it has to start
Speaker 7: with some certain level of something. And that's where we're
Speaker 7: that's where we're starting at, and that's what we're holding
Speaker 7: onto right now, is to just make that very very
Speaker 7: simple and very very clear.
Speaker 2: Have you considered putting a GPS tracking device on Trey
Speaker 2: during home games?
Speaker 7: We have not. It probably would be a little bit
Speaker 7: more worthy or time time well spent to put a
Speaker 7: blood pressure monitor on him.
Speaker 2: Fair enough, Hey, as a guy who wants upon a time,
Speaker 2: and I mean for me, number nine should be retired.
Speaker 1: That's my opinion. But whatever, As a guy for a
Speaker 1: long time who wore nine.
Speaker 2: For RSL and scored goals for RSL, are you getting
Speaker 2: what you need from Chico? And attendant to the question
Speaker 2: when the suspension came down, I talked to several people
Speaker 2: with the club and several people outside of the club
Speaker 2: that pontificated like this is the type of thing that
Speaker 2: derails the season. I'm not trying to be over dramatic
Speaker 2: or hyperbolic, but the fact of the matter is he's
Speaker 2: not playing the way he was prior to. He's not standing,
Speaker 2: you know, he's not finding the back of the net
Speaker 2: prior to. I can't speak to anything behind closed doors,
Speaker 2: no what.
Speaker 1: I ever tried to.
Speaker 2: But from a player and a leadership standpoint, are you
Speaker 2: getting what you need from.
Speaker 1: Your number nine?
Speaker 9: The message that goes to Chijo is the same that.
Speaker 7: Goes to every other player in the group right now,
Speaker 7: that that exact same message that it has to start
Speaker 7: with the work It has to start with your willingness
Speaker 7: to do anything and everything possible for the team. It
Speaker 7: has to start with your commitment level. That commitment level,
Speaker 7: that work rate has not been to the same level
Speaker 7: that it was before his suspension. And again, you know
Speaker 7: what you're doing is you're being very simple and very
Speaker 7: clear to say if you give us that, the other
Speaker 7: stuff will come. And that just comes from my personal
Speaker 7: history of being a striker as well as being a
Speaker 7: coach of some pretty prolific strikers, that players like that
Speaker 7: go through slumps and oftentimes we can get them to
Speaker 7: focus on something else. What you'll find is you get
Speaker 7: the work that you need. That would be great, but
Speaker 7: you can also get some of that confidence back when
Speaker 7: they're not worried just about scoring goals.
Speaker 2: Interesting, well, yeah, I mean obviously you need them to
Speaker 2: find the back of the dead. I wonder if you
Speaker 2: could take us into the ongoing projects of breaking in
Speaker 2: new players. I mean, you guys had a busy transfer window.
Speaker 2: You took some very calculated risks, of course, getting rid
Speaker 2: of some players that were playing well for you for
Speaker 2: a premium and then bringing in players that you thought
Speaker 2: would fit in. So what don't we see about Lachlan
Speaker 2: and Diego, and you know, obviously we're kind of still
Speaker 2: waiting for Mark Zuke to be on the ground consistently
Speaker 2: to train.
Speaker 1: But just walk us through this. Obviously, it's a process to.
Speaker 2: Get teammates familiar with each other and acclimated to the altitude,
Speaker 2: acclimated to the community. All the things take time. I
Speaker 2: understand that where we actually with the continued to implement
Speaker 2: implementation of your five signings during the summer transfer window.
Speaker 7: Well, I think what we've seen is we've seen good
Speaker 7: signs from all of the players individually and within the group,
Speaker 7: but not consistently yet. And so that's what I would
Speaker 7: hold on to. That's what we are holding onto that
Speaker 7: We've seen a game and and half of Diogo.
Speaker 9: That was quite good. We've seen sixty.
Speaker 7: Minutes from Jervane that was really good. We've seen Dominic
Speaker 7: come off the bench now at Houston and have a
Speaker 7: really positive contribution.
Speaker 8: He looked bright.
Speaker 9: We've seen Lachlan.
Speaker 7: Probably arguably are only what I would say above average
Speaker 7: player at Houston was Lachlan, and so in a couple
Speaker 7: of games we've seen moments from him as well, but
Speaker 7: we haven't seen it, you know, over a stretch of
Speaker 7: a couple of games, and we haven't seen consistency, and
Speaker 7: we haven't seen the group altogether firing and all cylinders.
Speaker 7: So we've seen the snapshots, but now we need to see.
Speaker 2: The whole movie. Do you feel like you're getting buying?
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you have trust in that locker room?
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't win trophies, You can't win much
Speaker 2: if you don't trust your teammates, if you don't trust
Speaker 2: your coaches, if you don't trust your coaching staff, and
Speaker 2: Jay you know the deal man when the results go
Speaker 2: the other way, I've got to ask you these questions.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like the group trusts each other?
Speaker 1: Do you have the locker room.
Speaker 7: One hundred percent? I mean I won't speak to the
Speaker 7: locker room is that's no longer my domain. My domain
Speaker 7: is the coaching staff, and my domain is what I
Speaker 7: think of the players based upon want to seeing the
Speaker 7: training sessions and the matches. And I don't see all
Speaker 7: the training sessions either. But we started the conversation with
Speaker 7: one thing that we're clear on. We are all still
Speaker 7: very much together in this. So absolutely the trust is
Speaker 7: there for the coaching staff. The trust is there that
Speaker 7: we have the requisite level of talent and the knowledge
Speaker 7: is there that these players are all capable of doing
Speaker 7: exactly what's demanded of them. If we think we're going
Speaker 7: to have a chance to win. It's just about them
Speaker 7: doing it now. It is not a question about can.
Speaker 7: It is a question of will or will not.
Speaker 2: So when last we spoke, and I want to revisit
Speaker 2: this throughout the course of the season. You know, Pablo
Speaker 2: himself shared with me the detail of like waiting for
Speaker 2: his Kyle Beckerman, waiting for his Jason christ waiting for
Speaker 2: his Pablo Master any like the guy who is on
Speaker 2: the team that isn't afraid to m f the teammate
Speaker 2: if things aren't going well, even if you're a little
Speaker 2: bit afraid to offend somebody in the sake of competition
Speaker 2: or the same of winning, or in the sake of
Speaker 2: competition and the sake of getting results and winning any sport,
Speaker 2: any level. You got a couple of those dogs. You
Speaker 2: got a couple of those guys. You know, I feel
Speaker 2: like Catronis might be one, but I don't know what's
Speaker 2: the what's the update on this search for the uh,
Speaker 2: the bite and the toughness. You're gonna you're gonna need
Speaker 2: if you want to lift a trophy.
Speaker 7: It's still ongoing spence, And I would say, you know, again,
Speaker 7: like I said last week, this is the time of
Speaker 7: the season that players either step forward or step back. Right,
Speaker 7: This is the time of the season. This is where
Speaker 7: big players make big players in big games. And so
Speaker 7: the answer is to be determined, and the opportunity is
Speaker 7: there for all the players to step forward and be counted.
Speaker 2: All right, before I say you loose, tell me about Dallas.
Speaker 2: You know the record isn't great, they're outside the playoff line.
Speaker 2: But of course you know right now, it doesn't matter
Speaker 2: who you're playing. You gotta get three. You gotta get
Speaker 2: three at home. It's a big It's like a sneaky
Speaker 2: big match Jay tomorrow.
Speaker 1: So tell me about Dallas. What do you guys.
Speaker 2: Need to do to get all three? Take care of
Speaker 2: your home field.
Speaker 7: This is a big game. It's not sneaky big. It's
Speaker 7: a big game. As in all of the games are
Speaker 7: going forward are big games for us because this is
Speaker 7: about making it into the playoffs and giving ourselves the
Speaker 7: best chance to win something in the playoffs, which means
Speaker 7: home field advantage. So every game is massive. Dallas is
Speaker 7: an interesting team because they had a good season last year.
Speaker 7: They came in this season and.
Speaker 9: Really struggled to kind of find their way. They've had
Speaker 9: a lot of injuries.
Speaker 7: With some of their most important players. From what I
Speaker 7: gather now, they've got all their best players back and
Speaker 7: are all healthy. They've been on a run of good form.
Speaker 7: So you know, it's a team that seems to be
Speaker 7: heading forward and we seem to be heading.
Speaker 9: Sideways or backwards.
Speaker 7: So it's time to arrest all of that. It is
Speaker 7: time too. As I said before, it's time to simplify,
Speaker 7: simplify and clarify, and it is time for players to
Speaker 7: step forward and make their mark.
Speaker 2: All right, my guy, well be pulling for he is always.
Speaker 2: Appreciate the time today and get luck tomorrow. Okay, all right, buddy,
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Speaker 3: I am going to I'm going to do a story
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Speaker 3: a very different kind of story than you would probably
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Speaker 3: talk to.
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Speaker 1: Hello, Yeah, that'd be great.
Speaker 2: We'd love to have you in studio right downtown Salt Lake.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that'll be fun to have you out this way.
Speaker 1: All right, A lot to do?
Speaker 2: Where to start? Where to start. Okay, let's start here.
Speaker 2: The PAC twelve is the PAC twelve is back question mark.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't really know what to.
Speaker 1: Make of it.
Speaker 2: I kind of feel bad for our friends up north
Speaker 2: as far as the Utah State aggies go. But since
Speaker 2: you and I last spoke, the PAC twelve has made
Speaker 2: some additions. So your thoughts on what has happened, Matt
Speaker 2: and what you think will happen next?
Speaker 3: It was I don't mind admitting that this was a
Speaker 3: surprising development to me.
Speaker 10: I had talked to a couple of people in.
Speaker 3: Those Mountain West leagues, the Mountain West schools, you know,
Speaker 3: before the football season started, and while this scenario was
Speaker 3: certainly on the table, the expectation then was this is
Speaker 3: probably a kind of thing that happens after football or
Speaker 3: near the end of football. But because the way negotiations
Speaker 3: broke down over extending that scheduling arrangement, looks like the
Speaker 3: whole deal kind of happened in four or five days,
Speaker 3: which I think you can do. When you know, Boise
Speaker 3: and San Diego State have applied to the PAC twelve
Speaker 3: what four times probably in.
Speaker 9: The last decade.
Speaker 3: It's not like it's difficult for everybody to get those
Speaker 3: pitch decks, and when you're a league of only two people,
Speaker 3: you can move a little bit faster. I am happy
Speaker 3: that that branding in that league tradition can continue. I'm
Speaker 3: not right now certain as how much. I don't mean
Speaker 3: it's going to come across like I think more harsh
Speaker 3: than I needed to, but how much any of it
Speaker 3: really matters, because I don't know if the PAC twelve
Speaker 3: with its six teams and depending on who they end
Speaker 3: up adding to get to eight or ten, I don't
Speaker 3: know if that's head and shoulders better than any of
Speaker 3: the other non power leagues at the moment. I don't
Speaker 3: know how good of a basketball league it really makes you.
Speaker 3: And it seems like a use of a lot of
Speaker 3: money in the Mount westkin use a lot of money
Speaker 3: here too, to kind of shuffle teams around and hope
Speaker 3: that maybe three out of every ten years they get
Speaker 3: a team in the college football playoffs or they get
Speaker 3: a slightly better first round basketball seed.
Speaker 8: I don't know if that's the best use for.
Speaker 3: One hundred and fifty million dollars or whatever this ends
Speaker 3: up being. But that's why I write a newsletter and
Speaker 3: don't run a.
Speaker 1: Conference fair enough.
Speaker 2: So as far as the schools, there's a Memphis report,
Speaker 2: it feels like UNLV is obvious to get Vegas. Your
Speaker 2: thoughts because they have to get to eight, as you know,
Speaker 2: So who do you think they add, Matt Which schools
Speaker 2: do you think?
Speaker 9: Dad?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So what I had been told is that those
Speaker 3: six want to get in the central time zone at
Speaker 3: Memphis and Tulane, and they already hired consulting companies well before
Speaker 3: last week happened. My understanding is Rice has kicked the
Speaker 3: Pires on trying to be in this kind of conversation.
Speaker 3: I imagine there'll be other institutions too, but the appeal
Speaker 3: for Memphis and Tulane is more about market and more
Speaker 3: about recruiting territory than it is about academic branding or
Speaker 3: any of those other things. And I don't expect this
Speaker 3: league to get beyond ten. If I understand what people
Speaker 3: point to Vegas and think, well, of course they're going
Speaker 3: to take you in lv U and LV football has
Speaker 3: been non atrocious for a season and a half essentially,
Speaker 3: And I don't think that anybody in the PAC Poll
Speaker 3: thinks they need to add this team to get into Vegas.
Speaker 3: They already can host events in Vegas. They've already had
Speaker 3: the basketball tournament there for a while. They can if
Speaker 3: they if they don't need you in LV one way
Speaker 3: or the other to potentially have an event at the
Speaker 3: Raider Stadium or anything. And you now the political situation
Speaker 3: with Nevada with the university regents not wanting to split
Speaker 3: that system like what happened with the UC's and what's
Speaker 3: been codified into law in a couple of different states,
Speaker 3: so one thing that they can't get UNLV, but that
Speaker 3: gets messier, And really, not to be a jerk, but
Speaker 3: I just don't see a difference between any of the
Speaker 3: other Mountain West institutions.
Speaker 8: Do you want to holler really hard for New Mexico
Speaker 8: or Utah.
Speaker 9: State or anybody else?
Speaker 3: I guess you can, but I don't know if if
Speaker 3: it matters that much.
Speaker 2: So since we are, well, I'm on remote up north today,
Speaker 2: so I'm actually about twenty five thirty miles away from Logan.
Speaker 2: I'm not usually this close to Logan, but since we're
Speaker 2: in Utah, I will follow up. Even though I'm quite
Speaker 2: sure I know the answer. How many pegs have to
Speaker 2: fall before Utah State would potentially be a PAC twelve option,
Speaker 2: any thought, any chance the Aggies could get that phone call.
Speaker 3: You know, I have not heard from any consultant or
Speaker 3: lawyer or dot edu email addressed person mentioned Utah State,
Speaker 3: and I've heard I think probably seven or eight schools
Speaker 3: mentioned at this point, So that probably has.
Speaker 7: To give you that idea.
Speaker 5: Is it impossible?
Speaker 8: No, Utah State has.
Speaker 3: Some advantages in that they've actually been competent at sports,
Speaker 3: but there's a lot of off the field turboil happening
Speaker 3: with that university athletic department right now too. Probably not
Speaker 3: the ideal timing for a less than stable realignment situation.
Speaker 8: I would say it is difficult.
Speaker 3: For me to imagine a world where Utah State is
Speaker 3: invited and Memphis and Tulane joined this week too. I
Speaker 3: think there had to be a lot of other people
Speaker 3: to say no before that becomes a thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna ask you an impossible question, what is
Speaker 2: the what does the future of college football look like
Speaker 2: for the Utah States of the world, And you know,
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve, the reinvented PAC twelve, I suppose is
Speaker 2: a safeish landing spot for those schools. And I'm sure
Speaker 2: a lot of the schools look at this as a
Speaker 2: step up in the right direction.
Speaker 1: But then you know, it's a feeder system obviously with
Speaker 1: the big two is what.
Speaker 2: It comes down to, and then the other two and
Speaker 2: you know, now we have this reinvented Mountain West Conference
Speaker 2: for schools like our friends up north, Matt, what's the
Speaker 2: future of college football look like for them?
Speaker 3: I think the one. I don't know if there's any
Speaker 3: comfort to our brothers and sisters and logan, but I
Speaker 3: would say that, you know, you have more experience with
Speaker 3: being passed over despite what you're doing on the football
Speaker 3: field than many other institutions right as I understand it.
Speaker 3: This happened before with the Whack, This's happened before with
Speaker 3: other you know, kind of pro do Mountain West conferences
Speaker 3: and Utah State found ways to exist, sometimes not great
Speaker 3: on the field, but we're still able to build programs.
Speaker 8: The other kind of elephant in the room here.
Speaker 3: Is I don't think any of us really know what
Speaker 3: anything looks.
Speaker 10: Like in five years.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a guarantee, but there's even a
Speaker 3: Big ten or an SEC football in five years. We
Speaker 3: could have a world where the college football playoffs separates
Speaker 3: or because of employment rules, or because of revenue sharing
Speaker 3: or something else, there's some sort of separation, and some
Speaker 3: of these league affiliation deals become kind of academic. Whether
Speaker 3: Utah State has a PAC twelve or a Mountain West
Speaker 3: or a Conference USA or a Super Metro Conference insignia
Speaker 3: on their jersey, they're still on the wrong side of
Speaker 3: the cutoff line. We don't even know if Utah BYU
Speaker 3: are on the right side of that proverbial Champions League
Speaker 3: cut off line. That's that's a different conversation. So you
Speaker 3: might be able to tell yourself that doesn't matter.
Speaker 8: All you need to do is.
Speaker 3: Win and keep supporting your team and showing up and
Speaker 3: you know, buying drinks at Maverick and whatever you got
Speaker 3: to do to help keep the department afloat. And then
Speaker 3: you're not in control anyway. So whatever happens in three
Speaker 3: or four years is whatever happens, which I get is
Speaker 3: not a super comforting response, but I think that's the
Speaker 3: only honest one I can get.
Speaker 2: Oh, oh, madam Maverick joke for our friends and logans, Well,
Speaker 2: you have to know, maybe you do know this already.
Speaker 2: The reason why I'm not going to rebuke you for
Speaker 2: your Maverick. Joke is the best restaurant I've been told
Speaker 2: the best restaurant Logan, Utah is an Indian restaurant that's
Speaker 2: located inside of a Maverick.
Speaker 3: Oh. I would absolutely never be smirch gas station cuisine.
Speaker 3: This is I mean, this is one. This is that's
Speaker 3: a staple of the of the South.
Speaker 8: Like I I when I lived in Louisiana, I.
Speaker 3: Could think of lots of places in Louisiana, Mississippi where
Speaker 3: I went to where the best restaurant was inside a
Speaker 3: gas station and that restaurant was good as hell. Like
Speaker 3: that's not damning with state praise or anything. I enjoy
Speaker 3: Maverick as much as the next guy. And if it's
Speaker 3: helping that company's bottom line, helps free up some extra
Speaker 3: money to go for other sponsorship deals, you know, then
Speaker 3: then then do that. Like I'm not going to sit
Speaker 3: here and pretend like like Tyson's Chicken is some kind
Speaker 3: of gourmet masterpiece. But you know that's tied up with
Speaker 3: Arkansas And if you'd like the razorbacks, that's that's that's
Speaker 3: part of the deal. I I have actually never.
Speaker 8: Been to Logan.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't think I've been north of U
Speaker 3: more than thirty miles north of Salt Lake. But if
Speaker 3: I find myself in the neighborhood, I would be more
Speaker 3: than happy to try. It sounds great.
Speaker 2: What I'd say is, don't put it on the bucket list.
Speaker 2: But you're run into the sweetest people.
Speaker 10: In the world.
Speaker 1: You know, they're they're very kind up there, so.
Speaker 2: We're cheering for them and hopefully they can find some
Speaker 2: more stable footing. But let's move off of that, Matt.
Speaker 2: And ultimately, when we last spoke, I believe I informed
Speaker 2: you of a little chit chat I had with a
Speaker 2: former ute, a former NFL player and now a former
Speaker 2: assistant coach from Colorado, damed Trevor Riley.
Speaker 1: And you know that interview got a lot of traction.
Speaker 2: I'm told that he is currently with a pretty big
Speaker 2: time writer telling him the story that eventually will come
Speaker 2: out at some point. But you wrote on this for
Speaker 2: extra points. What was your take on what Trevor had
Speaker 2: to say? And kind of let's unpack the piece that
Speaker 2: you wrote.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had this earlier this week after our conversation.
Speaker 3: After listening to your interview, I filed some open records
Speaker 3: requests because whenever you hear somebody say I have email
Speaker 3: receipts to prove that I talked to Saudi Arabia about
Speaker 3: football fundraising. You know, my little antenna on my reporter
Speaker 3: brain perks up and go, well, I want a few
Speaker 3: those receipts. So I did, and I got a copy
Speaker 3: of the pitch deck that that Riley sent over to
Speaker 3: visit Saudi dot com and a message that was sent
Speaker 3: on Christmas Day of last year. I believe Trevor was
Speaker 3: in Jordan at the time, not not in Salt Lake
Speaker 3: or anywhere else. And you know, a couple of people
Speaker 3: on the Internet kind of laughed at, oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: this guy's trying to fundraise money by emailing ask at
Speaker 3: visit Saudi dot.
Speaker 10: Com, which is a little funny.
Speaker 3: But I don't know if you've ever had to do
Speaker 3: ad sales to radio station. I've done this for extra points.
Speaker 3: Sometimes that's the best contact number to work with what
Speaker 3: you got, And clearly it got in some kind of conversation,
Speaker 3: I would say, based on the documents that I inspected,
Speaker 3: and based on the full text of the resignation letter,
Speaker 3: and based on some other conversations I have with people
Speaker 3: around around Colorado. So I am not surprised that whatever
Speaker 3: government agency of Saudi Arabia did not come through ten
Speaker 3: million dollars to buy promotional Instagram posts on Travis Hunter's
Speaker 3: Instagram page or Deion Sanders Junior's Instagram page. I think
Speaker 3: we joked about it before, the idea that that this
Speaker 3: gentleman had some connections to the three trillion dollars in
Speaker 3: the Mormon community or whatever. I think we can have
Speaker 3: a good laugh about that. I don't know if I
Speaker 3: don't know if anyone was talking about liquidating a temple
Speaker 3: to go pay the Colorado's NIL Fund or anything. I
Speaker 3: there's a lot of information I still don't have.
Speaker 9: I tried.
Speaker 8: I tried to reach out to him.
Speaker 3: I've I've there are other people I tried to reach
Speaker 3: out to that I didn't want to talk, which is fine,
Speaker 3: that's that's that's their business. Maybe we could talk more later.
Speaker 9: Maybe that's uh.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's Pete Daniel gets gets the gets the full look.
Speaker 2: For me, it's more of just I don't.
Speaker 8: Think this has ever happened anywhere before and uh, and certainly.
Speaker 3: Not happened at this at this scale, and with somebody
Speaker 3: whose job title doesn't say nil, which makes it, uh,
Speaker 3: And this makes it, I think, really interesting and newsworthy.
Speaker 1: So ultimately, let me follow up with this.
Speaker 2: I mean, I love Trevor, but he's a lunatic and
Speaker 2: I've said that to his face and I would again,
Speaker 2: but he knows I love him. So I'm not saying
Speaker 2: this is the first of several attempts to inspire the
Speaker 2: Saudis to love college football. But I'm wondering if you
Speaker 2: think this could be something potentially that is on the horizon.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've heard a lot of private equity.
Speaker 2: There's a big gap between private equity and Saudi money,
Speaker 2: for sure, but Saudi's have already purchased pro golf, as
Speaker 2: I talk about often, and they have their tentacles in
Speaker 2: several different products like FS one and the Premiership and such.
Speaker 2: Could college football be high speed ahead to taking some
Speaker 2: of this dirty money to bridge the gap between the
Speaker 2: haves and have nots.
Speaker 3: You know, it's an interesting question, and I've tried to
Speaker 3: do some actual reporting on this, and there's two things
Speaker 3: that have been pointed out to me from people that
Speaker 3: work in private equity and people that work in institutional fundraising.
Speaker 3: Is really over the last six months, it's been much
Speaker 3: harder for North American and Western European investors to get
Speaker 3: money out of Saudi Arabia. The folks that are running
Speaker 3: the p i s, based on how things have changed globally,
Speaker 3: are generally more interested in doing domestic infrastructure deals than
Speaker 3: they are with international I P. I mean, that's not
Speaker 3: to say that they wouldn't talk to the NBA, or
Speaker 3: they wouldn't talk to uh, you know, International Track or
Speaker 3: or something else that came up there, but it's it's
Speaker 3: it's a more conservative lending market with that's fun than
Speaker 3: it might have been a year or two ago. So
Speaker 3: it's gonna be harder to get any money, let alone
Speaker 3: spectus of college football money. The other the other challenge,
Speaker 3: and I'm not saying that this is that this is impossible,
Speaker 3: but it is a different thing here. You some you
Speaker 3: if you're a public institution or a registered nonprofit and
Speaker 3: you're trying to fundraise with the arm of a foreign government,
Speaker 3: there's a litany of other regulations you have to follow, right,
Speaker 3: you may have to be even registered as like a
Speaker 3: foreign agent. It's a little bit different than if you're
Speaker 3: trying to go to the Saudi equivalent of Chase bank
Speaker 3: or someone that's not specifically tied to the royal family.
Speaker 3: And if you're a nonprofit or if you're an arm
Speaker 3: of the state, you might not want to deal with
Speaker 3: that political headache. It's a little bit easier if you're
Speaker 3: a private institution or or a completely separate wing to
Speaker 3: potentially take that. So I think for a school like Colorado,
Speaker 3: or a school like Utah, or a school like Texas
Speaker 3: Tech or Wyoming or Utah State, I think this would
Speaker 3: be very, very difficult to do, and there's going to
Speaker 3: be cheaper, easier way for you to raise that money.
Speaker 3: Could Baylor do it? I mean maybe, but again I
Speaker 3: don't think the juice is worth a squeeze right now.
Speaker 2: All right, A couple of interesting pieces of news dropped
Speaker 2: in the NIL space earlier, So I was glad to
Speaker 2: see you on the rundown when my producer sent it over.
Speaker 2: So Brian Kemp, the Governor of Georgia, has signed an
Speaker 2: order that prohibits the nc double A or athletic conferences
Speaker 2: from punishing any university or college in Georgia for quote,
Speaker 2: offering compensation or compensating an intercollegiate student athlete for the
Speaker 2: use of such student athletes NIL. Even though the house
Speaker 2: thing is still kind of out there, the NC double
Speaker 2: A still prohibit schools from directly paid athletes for the
Speaker 2: rights to use their name, image, and likeness.
Speaker 1: That's still in place.
Speaker 2: What does this signal to you, Matt, this order that
Speaker 2: was signed earlier today by Brian Kemp.
Speaker 3: I think it signals more that Brian Camp thinks it's
Speaker 3: politically expedious to wave his middle finger at the NC
Speaker 3: double A, and that somebody in Kirby Smart's office, you know,
Speaker 3: had his ear campus has been quick to charge to
Speaker 3: make sure that Georgia has everything that they need. It's
Speaker 3: part of why the guy has the nickname Governor Kirby
Speaker 3: Smart locally for this kind of thing. So I'm not surprised.
Speaker 3: I don't think it really changes anything. The NCAA has
Speaker 3: already signaled that they're not going to pursue any NIL
Speaker 3: investigations or enforcement actions right now while they're waiting for
Speaker 3: state lawsuits from Tennessee and Virginia to finish going through appeals.
Speaker 3: So there's that doesn't really change. The NCAA is not
Speaker 3: going to really do anything, and as a result of
Speaker 3: this order, Georgia isn't going to immediately begin to proactively
Speaker 3: do revenue sharing because they want to wait to see
Speaker 3: what happens with House. And maybe three or four weeks
Speaker 3: ago that looked like more of a sure thing than
Speaker 3: it is now now that that's very much an open question.
Speaker 3: But there's not many political pinatas that are easier to
Speaker 3: kind of hammer than the NC double A. And I
Speaker 3: wouldn't be shocked to see more Southern, particularly Southern governors,
Speaker 3: do something similar because it gets you some friendly gets
Speaker 3: you some friendly headlines, and no one's gonna achieve. No
Speaker 3: one's gonna stick up for the NC double A.
Speaker 2: So last time you hopped on, we talked about I
Speaker 2: want to remember your phrase. I think it was down
Speaker 2: or fatigue, if I remember correctly, and some news came
Speaker 2: down actually a year or so ago. I was just
Speaker 2: pontificating on possibilities of what it would look like when
Speaker 2: these athletic departments had more cart blanche to start asking
Speaker 2: their communities for more money, or just implementing things that
Speaker 2: forces you to pay more money even if you don't
Speaker 2: want to. And Tennessee steps forward today to increase ticket
Speaker 2: prices by ten percent to help their nil endeavors. I'll
Speaker 2: ask you the same question I asked about the bill
Speaker 2: signed in by Governor Kemp.
Speaker 1: Is this the beginning of a trend?
Speaker 2: Should college football fans and folks in college football communities
Speaker 2: who love to go to games expect their fees to
Speaker 2: be jacked up whether they like it or not, in
Speaker 2: order to start paying some of these players.
Speaker 3: Probably in many markets.
Speaker 8: And I do think it sucks.
Speaker 3: And there's a calculated bet here that Tennessee is making
Speaker 3: that demand for volunteer football tickets is going to be
Speaker 3: so high, given that Tennessee is now a regular top
Speaker 3: ten caliber program compete playoff spots, that the demand won't
Speaker 3: be impacted if they jack up prices. Actually, I think
Speaker 3: I want to say they increased up by over fourteen percent,
Speaker 3: and they said that ten percent is part of this
Speaker 3: new talent fee. They're going to use the other money
Speaker 3: for something else, and they can get away with it.
Speaker 3: I think the youths probably could increase ticket prices and
Speaker 3: put it all on saying we got to go to
Speaker 3: talent because demand is high enough that they wouldn't face
Speaker 3: the significant penalty. But not a lot of schools in
Speaker 3: FBS can get away with that without starting to now
Speaker 3: struggle to sell sell some tickets. And I don't blame
Speaker 3: anybody for reading this Senus News and being really frustrated,
Speaker 3: because what we've seen over the last really two or
Speaker 3: three years with nil and running collectives with some exceptions,
Speaker 3: is there's a lot of people making eight hundred thousand
Speaker 3: dollars ads asking people that make eighty thousand dollars fans
Speaker 3: to contribute even more money to pay athletes eight hundred
Speaker 3: grands and coaches eight millions. And I think it doesn't
Speaker 3: take long, especially when when gas becomes more expensive and
Speaker 3: everyone's having to pitch pennies to say, but this math
Speaker 3: doesn't make sense. The Bears don't do this, The Utah
Speaker 3: Hockey Club doesn't do this, the Jazz don't do this.
Speaker 3: They they might raise prices, but they're not going to say, well,
Speaker 3: we just gave Laura an extension and so we everyone
Speaker 3: go pay me another eight bucks. I think people people
Speaker 3: would laugh at that. Any department that's going to try this,
Speaker 3: I think will lose credibility with their fan base if
Speaker 3: they don't pair that announcement with concrete examples of and
Speaker 3: this is what we're doing to save money. This is
Speaker 3: what we're gonna not spend money on this. These are
Speaker 3: what we're making cuts. Here's time, we're making changes, and
Speaker 3: now we're asking you to help kind kind of still
Speaker 3: in the gaps if you're trying to run your appolic
Speaker 3: department exactly the way you did before revenue sharing, and
Speaker 3: just gonna expect that your fans are going to pay
Speaker 3: an extra twenty something million dollars. I think a lot
Speaker 3: of people will find themselves are rude awakening.
Speaker 2: All right, switching gears real quick because I wanted to,
Speaker 2: and I'm genuinely just curious. I think you're gonna be
Speaker 2: really good with this because obviously we're in the Big
Speaker 2: twelve footprint now and BYU was a year ago, but
Speaker 2: Utah has joined them.
Speaker 1: And look, it's not the Big ten, it's not the SEC.
Speaker 2: We know the deal.
Speaker 1: And ESPN Fox whoever it is.
Speaker 2: Their job is to put the best TV show on
Speaker 2: their TV station so you watch and.
Speaker 1: They can charge for more AD spend.
Speaker 2: I get the deal. But in two weeks, Matt, we
Speaker 2: have one kicktime for the Big twelve Arizona Utah eight
Speaker 2: point fifteen. It's a late kickout here for ESPN. None
Speaker 2: of the other Big twelve games, and.
Speaker 1: There are six of them outside of Utah, so they're
Speaker 1: seven that day.
Speaker 2: None of the other Big twelve teams have kicktimes, and
Speaker 2: we don't know the TV state. It's in two weeks.
Speaker 2: It's not in a month and a half, it's in
Speaker 2: two weeks. Can you walk us through why.
Speaker 1: This is the way that it is?
Speaker 3: As I understand it. Part of this is because because
Speaker 3: there's I want to say, there's like a literal draft
Speaker 3: between ESDN and Fox to see who gets you know
Speaker 3: what games where where they have they kind of share
Speaker 3: custody for for some of these rights, and there's there's
Speaker 3: a lot of horse trading and in a league where
Speaker 3: there is so much parody, Uh, what what?
Speaker 12: What?
Speaker 3: What the broadcast networks don't want to do is set
Speaker 3: a TV time six weeks in advance. Using Arizona as
Speaker 3: an example, Right, came in there as a as a
Speaker 3: preseason uh, legitimate candidate to win this conference. Uh, somebody
Speaker 3: who is expected to certainly be in the top three
Speaker 3: to play the first game against Kannadas State, they get
Speaker 3: they get whacked.
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 3: Is it possible that in three weeks Arizona is now
Speaker 3: a non entity in the Big Twelve race? And that
Speaker 3: their fans begin to check out. Yeah, that's that's that's
Speaker 3: certainly possible. Then you don't want to have made a
Speaker 3: huge commitment to putting the Wildcats in prime time, especially
Speaker 3: because maybe UCS, maybe Arizona State, who I don't know
Speaker 3: about you I thought was going to be got awful
Speaker 3: and now looks very common, or somebody else moves up.
Speaker 3: So because you don't have these blue, blue blood national
Speaker 3: brands in this conference, with the exception of Deon Sanders
Speaker 3: Colorado football for maybe one or two more weeks, that
Speaker 3: that's gonna lead to some more instability and unpredictability and
Speaker 3: someone that's gonna be good. Some of that makes for
Speaker 3: exciting television, that's gonna make a lot of these games
Speaker 3: matter more. And some of that means you're not gonna
Speaker 3: be marketed the same way and and you're gonna you're
Speaker 3: gonna have to wait a little bit longer for some
Speaker 3: of these schedules to still out, which I understand is
Speaker 3: frustrating but at least could correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 3: I don't believe Utah has any games this year on
Speaker 3: the PAC twelve networks, So that is I think a
Speaker 3: positive step in the right direction.
Speaker 1: Well played. Hey before I said you lose, I am
Speaker 1: disappointed in you.
Speaker 10: Matt getting get in line, brother?
Speaker 2: How did I do this time? Okay, so just last
Speaker 2: night we had to kick our friend off our techt
Speaker 2: thread who has an Android because we just we just
Speaker 2: sew over it and so we kicked him off. I've
Speaker 2: known him twenty five years. I met him in college.
Speaker 2: You are that guy on the text thread where it
Speaker 2: comes up as green and you ruined all of our days.
Speaker 1: I didn't know this about you.
Speaker 3: Well, I just literally switched yesterday and part of the
Speaker 3: same thing, like I'm in like a group chat with
Speaker 3: a bunch of other national college football people, and that
Speaker 3: was kind of the running joke was like I can't
Speaker 3: believe MAT's so poor that he can't have an iPhone
Speaker 3: and he has to have this weird bubble and like,
Speaker 3: I guess we all have to subscribe to extra points
Speaker 3: out of out of charity cases here. And it's funny
Speaker 3: because I think literally as I got home with the
Speaker 3: new iPhone or a new iPhone that I think was
Speaker 3: Apple released, that they made an adjustment to their app.
Speaker 3: So now texting with Android users is easier. I don't
Speaker 3: know I'm still working my way through relearning how to
Speaker 3: do everything on the iPhone. I feel like a seventy
Speaker 3: year old man, you know, trying to retype in all
Speaker 3: my passwords and redownload stuff. But slowly, but surely, I'm
Speaker 3: being we welcomed into group chats across the country, which
Speaker 3: I appreciate.
Speaker 2: That's hey, we're going to a concert tonight. He doesn't
Speaker 2: know about it, Matt, So welcome back to the real world, Buddy.
Speaker 2: Tell people where they can go find your work before
Speaker 2: I say you loose you bet.
Speaker 3: Friends, If you enjoy stories about the office field, stuff
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Speaker 2: Man, those are valuable. I might take those home Dynamite
Speaker 2: and Rampage tickets as well. It's their Blingin' Boom Special. Porter.
Speaker 2: This special feels like it's right up your alley.
Speaker 1: Okay. So if you're in the market, I'm not.
Speaker 2: Saying you are, But if you're in the market for
Speaker 2: an engagement ring, they've got over two thousand different options.
Speaker 1: And if you decide today's the day.
Speaker 2: You spend twenty five hundred dollars on jewelry, you get
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Speaker 2: You you spend five thousand dollars on a jewelry purchase,
Speaker 2: you get a thousand dollars gift card for Smith and
Speaker 2: Edwards that they're Blinging Boom Special. She gets the jewelry,
Speaker 2: you get the guns in the AMMO. I mean, we
Speaker 2: might as well call this the Porter Larson Special.
Speaker 5: Yeah, except I'm keeping the jewelry and the AMMO.
Speaker 9: So that is that? Okay?
Speaker 2: That's really selfish, man, that's really selfish.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's a deal. I can take advantage of
Speaker 5: a deal, can't I.
Speaker 1: Well, you can you can if you like?
Speaker 2: Okay, fine, So I guess it is the Porter Larson
Speaker 2: Special because you get the jewelry and you get the
Speaker 2: AMMO and you get the guns. No judgment here, no
Speaker 2: judgment here, all right, Gonna bring in Scott Mitchell.
Speaker 1: We also have Bill Riley joining the show.
Speaker 2: So Scott former you quarterback on our broadcast now and
Speaker 2: obviously Ryle's the voice of the utes.
Speaker 1: So Porter, we talked about this to start the year.
Speaker 2: Friend of the show question mark Britain Covey, let's start
Speaker 2: there is Britain Covey still a friend of the show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Actually A messaged with Britt a little bit yesterday.
Speaker 4: I think he's still a friend of the show. Okay,
Speaker 4: guest of the show. I think in the somewhat near future. Yes,
Speaker 4: but maybe we're shunning him or he's shunning us at
Speaker 4: the moment.
Speaker 1: Still a friend though, Oh he's definitely shunning us.
Speaker 2: I mean he's been on the show multiple times. But
Speaker 2: I know he was out in Utah for his golf
Speaker 2: tournament because I helped him get a sponsor in exchange
Speaker 2: for an hour in.
Speaker 1: Studio and he just ghosted us, as the kids would say.
Speaker 2: But there was this cool video that surfaced of the
Speaker 2: Eagles training camp where a reporter asked Britain about playing
Speaker 2: wide receiver and he gave a Britain Covey answer, you know,
Speaker 2: as to why he uses his sizes at his advantage
Speaker 2: and how he wants the opportunities to potentially get some
Speaker 2: looks that way. And Philly last night was without look.
Speaker 2: Demante Smith is good. They're number one receiver is AJ Brown.
Speaker 2: Let's make no mistake about that.
Speaker 1: And so as a.
Speaker 2: Result of AJ Brown not playing last night, our guy,
Speaker 2: Britain Covey had six targets, which is as many targets
Speaker 2: and catches as he had prior to now. Twenty three yards.
Speaker 2: His longest reception was nine yards. He almost had a touchdown.
Speaker 2: But I thought that was pretty cool porter last night
Speaker 2: seeing Britain Covey actually catch some passes from Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 4: I mean, just getting reps split out wide or at
Speaker 4: the slot is something that Britain has worked his entire
Speaker 4: life to achieve. Of course, we've seen him lead the
Speaker 4: NFL and punt returning now and be a productive and
Speaker 4: efficient playmaker at that position. But to see him catching
Speaker 4: passes from Jalen Hurts and as you mentioned, six catches
Speaker 4: on six targets and at the time, probably the biggest
Speaker 4: third down conversion of the night for the Eagles. It
Speaker 4: was awesome to see and hopefully we see only more
Speaker 4: of it as we go forward. We'll have to see
Speaker 4: how that wide receiver room really plays out.
Speaker 2: Vjon Robinson is awesome obviously Doak Walker Award winner at
Speaker 2: University of Texas. So Tyler Al's year after his rookie year,
Speaker 2: it looked like he might be the guy for them.
Speaker 2: Well he's backing up Vijon Robinson, but he had a
Speaker 2: couple of really strong series. Nine carries fifty three yards
Speaker 2: for Tyler, including a fifteen yard first down run that
Speaker 2: was big for them. And I was really impressed with Atlanta.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you could do a lot better,
Speaker 2: and you could do a lot worse than Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 2: That game looked like it was gonna get loose, and
Speaker 2: look for all the Philly panic today, and you know,
Speaker 2: it really is such a great sports city. But there
Speaker 2: are crazy people there about Nick Siriotti, Like, look, I
Speaker 2: don't think he's one of the best coaches in pro football.
Speaker 1: I think you could do better than Nick Sirianni.
Speaker 2: But he did go to a Super Bowl and they
Speaker 2: were a Saquon Barkley drop away from.
Speaker 1: Winning that game.
Speaker 2: So credited Atlanta. It's not an almost league, it's a
Speaker 2: final score. You know, did you actually get out with
Speaker 2: the win league?
Speaker 1: For sure?
Speaker 2: In that final drive by Kirk Cousins shows you why
Speaker 2: a lot of people are very high on what Atlanta
Speaker 2: is doing, not just with Kurt but the succession plan
Speaker 2: of Penix.
Speaker 1: Junior behind him. And it was a good win for them.
Speaker 1: Now they lost to the Steelers week one.
Speaker 2: A lot of people believe that's because, you know, the
Speaker 2: Steelers DUOC is very familiar with Atlanta system.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I thought last night was a really really good football
Speaker 2: game overall. Good to see some of the local boys
Speaker 2: kind of going at it and getting some different type
Speaker 2: of reps. As Pro football comes to a close for
Speaker 2: Week two. All right, So some breaking news came down
Speaker 2: in case you missed it. The Dolphins have placed two
Speaker 2: a tongue of iloa on ir all right, So that
Speaker 2: means he'll miss at least the next four games. Now,
Speaker 2: we talked about this last week after kind of everything
Speaker 2: went down, and I'll just kind of reiterate what I
Speaker 2: had to say last week, and Porter, I don't think
Speaker 2: I got your take on this, so let's dig into
Speaker 2: it a little bit, you know. And I thought Robert Johnson,
Speaker 2: former youthe safety played a number of years in pro football,
Speaker 2: really put it well last week when he said he
Speaker 2: thinks TUIs should probably walk away.
Speaker 1: It's his fourth cushion in five years.
Speaker 2: He had one in twenty nineteen Obama, and so it's
Speaker 2: another situation where we're watching him play and suddenly the
Speaker 2: hands start fancying. It looks horrible. It's my most unfavorite
Speaker 2: thing about watching football's when that happens. Skyler Thompson's gonna
Speaker 2: be the backup. He's gonna start on Seattle. But that's
Speaker 2: not necessary. I mean, I would imagine, you know, Miami's
Speaker 2: gonna look to make a trade, and maybe they trade
Speaker 2: for Bryce Young, who was just benched in Carolaina. Our
Speaker 2: guy Ben Solac kind of pontificated on that possibility. Tyler
Speaker 2: Huntley has been signed to the practice squad from the Ravens,
Speaker 2: so he'll be down there.
Speaker 1: We'll see if Snoop can get a look.
Speaker 2: I continue to be uncomfortable with the way this is covered,
Speaker 2: and maybe it's just me. I don't think it's anybody's
Speaker 2: place to tell two of that he has to stop
Speaker 2: playing football at the age of twenty six years old. Now,
Speaker 2: Rojo's point last week, which is well taken, is that
Speaker 2: Tua has already secured the bag. I mean, the money's guaranteed.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the situation would be with the
Speaker 2: but my guess would be, with how familiar I am
Speaker 2: with these contractual procedures and other sports and other leagues,
Speaker 2: is that a medical retirement would mean to gets a
Speaker 2: giant portion of what's coming to him. But he already
Speaker 2: pocketed the signing bonus. I think he's already made a
Speaker 2: grip of money. And he does have two children, he
Speaker 2: is married. He does seem to be very thoughtful kid.
Speaker 2: I've always liked his approach. I was a big fan
Speaker 2: of his. During the draft process, everybody was on Burrow
Speaker 2: over Tua. I'm not saying that was the wrong thing
Speaker 2: to do. I just thought that gap was closer than
Speaker 2: most people.
Speaker 1: But ultimately it's just it's.
Speaker 2: Hard to ask these guys to give this stuff up
Speaker 2: when if he was healthy, you'd have another decade doing it.
Speaker 2: But on the other side, if you already had the
Speaker 2: generational wealth, and you know look called how it is,
Speaker 2: you are doing what you do every day to try
Speaker 2: to find a way for you and your family to
Speaker 2: have a better life. You probably want to make more money.
Speaker 2: You probably want to build a business. You probably want
Speaker 2: to do something where you don't have to worry about
Speaker 2: paying bills month a month. You can put some aside
Speaker 2: to take care of your family and maybe leave some
Speaker 2: behind for your children. And if suddenly, at the age
Speaker 2: of twenty six, you had done that and your health
Speaker 2: was compromised because of what you were doing, ask yourself
Speaker 2: what you would do? Would you So let's say you're
Speaker 2: an HVAC. You roll around, You're fixing heating and air conditioners.
Speaker 2: You're working all day. You are grinding and grinding away
Speaker 2: to make a living so you can pay your bills
Speaker 2: and take care.
Speaker 1: Of your family.
Speaker 2: And suddenly, at the age of twenty six, you realize
Speaker 2: you have more than enough for this lifetime and the
Speaker 2: next four or five lifetimes if you invest the money
Speaker 2: correctly and if you're careful with it, would you keep
Speaker 2: doing what you were doing if it was compromising your health?
Speaker 2: I think the easy answer is absolutely not right. As
Speaker 2: I talked about last week, there is a thing with
Speaker 2: these guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, they are different. They're pro athletes are different.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are several.
Speaker 2: People, including my producer, who at one point, including me,
Speaker 2: at one point had a dream and a premonition of
Speaker 2: one day being a professional athlete when you're young, and then.
Speaker 1: You run into these pros.
Speaker 2: And for me, it was sixteen years old out a
Speaker 2: basketball camp when I ran into God Sham God.
Speaker 1: At the time, you know, his situation was, he was
Speaker 1: a Providence commit.
Speaker 2: He was a junior out of the East Coast and
Speaker 2: Sham God Wells was the name of the time. He's
Speaker 2: now God Sham God the assistant coach of the Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 2: He was a rising junior who had committed to Providence,
Speaker 2: and I thought I was a really good player. And
Speaker 2: I realized then, like they're just built differently, they think differently,
Speaker 2: they're wired differently. They're such a confluence of things that
Speaker 2: I have to combine for them to ever cut a
Speaker 2: paycheck doing what they do, and when they do that
Speaker 2: for a number of years and they're successful at it,
Speaker 2: it really becomes their identity, like it or not.
Speaker 1: It just does.
Speaker 2: And when they walk away from it oftentimes, as we
Speaker 2: talked with Rojo about, it's tough, it's hard, you never
Speaker 2: get that thing again. You know, a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 2: I think I was telling you I went in MC
Speaker 2: the dinner for the two thousand and nine RSL MLS
Speaker 2: championship team, and you have Kyle Beckerman, who was the
Speaker 2: captain US men's national team player, a bunch of other
Speaker 2: players as well, and then Jason Christ who joined the
Speaker 2: show earlier. And these are two guys that are successful
Speaker 2: in the second act of their careers, but when pressed,
Speaker 2: they all say the same thing. Nothing that I will
Speaker 2: nothing that I've done, and nothing that I will ever
Speaker 2: do will ever make up for the feeling that I
Speaker 2: had when I was playing, When I was in the arena,
Speaker 2: when I was on the field, when I was on
Speaker 2: the pitch, when I was on the court, it's just different.
Speaker 2: So I'm not really landing on a spot one way
Speaker 2: or the other here. I think it's just decent to
Speaker 2: consider all options. Again, Tua, two kids, generational wealth, never
Speaker 2: has to make another dime in his life. If you
Speaker 2: were in that spot at the age of twenty six,
Speaker 2: what would you do. I think most of us would
Speaker 2: walk I really do. But the dynamic of achieving what
Speaker 2: Tua has achieved in a space that is so coveted
Speaker 2: and so hard. You know, there are a lot of
Speaker 2: jobs we could all go get. This is one that
Speaker 2: the point one one one percent or whatever it is,
Speaker 2: point zero zero one percent of guys who try to
Speaker 2: do what Tua tried to do actually accomplish, and then
Speaker 2: you tell him it's time to walk away.
Speaker 1: I think it's tough.
Speaker 12: I really do.
Speaker 1: I would understand.
Speaker 2: I'm not offense sit or you guys know that if
Speaker 2: you listen to the show, I think I would understand
Speaker 2: both sides of this thing. I think Mike McDaniel has
Speaker 2: guided them brilliantly through this entire situation, wanting more information
Speaker 2: about the help before you even talk about it as
Speaker 2: a player.
Speaker 1: But Porter, before we catch your break, let me bring
Speaker 1: you on, Let me bring you in on this.
Speaker 2: So we now have the information that he will be
Speaker 2: on the IR, meaning he misses at least four games,
Speaker 2: and that certainly isn't as important as how he is
Speaker 2: doing as a person.
Speaker 1: But I haven't heard from you on the two of
Speaker 1: stuff this week. Let me hear your take.
Speaker 4: Well, it's it's such a complicated in difficult topic because
Speaker 4: obviously all of us that love football and love the
Speaker 4: sport understand the set facts and the you know, the
Speaker 4: the developments that we've had in the last ten fifteen
Speaker 4: years on what the sport does to the human body,
Speaker 4: which is again not good. We can admit that we
Speaker 4: can we can now discuss it openly and we know
Speaker 4: how bad it can be. Right, We've seen the lives
Speaker 4: of a football players end in horrific ways because of
Speaker 4: and thanks in part because of the things that they
Speaker 4: go through in their careers and the things that their
Speaker 4: brains go through. So should to hang it up with
Speaker 4: what seventy plus million dollars in the bank and everything
Speaker 4: that he could ever want in front of him?
Speaker 5: Probably?
Speaker 4: But I just I just can never get myself, like
Speaker 4: you were saying, to get to the point where I
Speaker 4: tell someone or even really input my opinion on someone
Speaker 4: else's life decision. Where Spence there or maybe now there
Speaker 4: are thirty two starting quarterbacks NFL, but there are maybe
Speaker 4: twenty five starting caliber NFL quarterbacks in the NFL out
Speaker 4: of eight billion people on the planet. To get to
Speaker 4: that point takes a talent, a work, a life long
Speaker 4: dedication to get to where you are. That most of us,
Speaker 4: the other eight million, don't even understand, don't even fathom, right,
Speaker 4: So I struggle to tell someone that they should or
Speaker 4: or you know, should move on or it's the right
Speaker 4: thing for them, because hell, I don't know, Maybe two
Speaker 4: of values being an NFL quarterback more than he values
Speaker 4: being around when he's sixty or seventy.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Those are really difficult questions you can only answer if
Speaker 4: you are that person. But I do think Spence, we
Speaker 4: we have the I guess, the knowledge, the science, and
Speaker 4: we know what his bank account looks like. That I
Speaker 4: would say, I safely would would probably walk away if
Speaker 4: that were me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, that's a tough one.
Speaker 2: Ultimately, it seems like such a good kid and a
Speaker 2: great husband and great dad. But you know, we'll see
Speaker 2: how it plays out, all right. Coming up during the
Speaker 2: four o'clock hour of the show, you're gonna hear from
Speaker 2: Scott Mitchell and then you're gonna hear from Bill Riley.
Speaker 1: We got two hours down, We have two hours to go.
Speaker 2: Reminder, tonight is the Kyle Whittingham Coaches Show, right after
Speaker 2: we say good night at six o'clock, it'll be Bill,
Speaker 2: It'll be Coach with a couple of you players looking
Speaker 2: back on the Utah State win and looking ahead to
Speaker 2: a big, big game on the road and still watered
Speaker 2: against Okay State, So stay tuned for that. If you
Speaker 2: miss Jason Christ from Matt Brown, good stuff today from
Speaker 2: both RSL is back in action coming up Tomorro against
Speaker 2: FC Dallas. It is such a massive match man So
Speaker 2: America first field seven point thirty will be that kick time.
Speaker 1: So if you miss Jaydaday, some good, very honest stuff.
Speaker 2: On the current situation with Rayl salt Lake, and then
Speaker 2: Matt Brown stopped by to discuss it. A couple of
Speaker 2: different things pertaining to the sport and the business side,
Speaker 2: specifically of college foot ball. Where in case you missed it,
Speaker 2: a couple of pieces of news in the NIL space
Speaker 2: broke earlier today and one of them is something to
Speaker 2: really pay attention to. Okay, I'm not saying this is
Speaker 2: going to happen, but my guess is it will happen
Speaker 2: in a lot of different places. The University of Tennessee
Speaker 2: announced today they've increased their ticket prices by ten percent
Speaker 2: to help pay athletes via nil. It's called a talent
Speaker 2: fee on tickets to help pay these athletes as part
Speaker 2: of a new revenue sharing plan set to begin next year.
Speaker 1: And this is not optional. Excuse me, this is not
Speaker 1: an option. This is mandatory.
Speaker 2: So in addition to the ten percent increase on all
Speaker 2: ticket invoices, season tickets and single game purchases, as well
Speaker 2: as donations for that seat, Tennessee will add an average
Speaker 2: increase of four point five percent on all football tickets.
Speaker 2: So don't be surprised if this is commonplace. We talked
Speaker 2: a lot about what's being branded as donor fatigue with Matt,
Speaker 2: So some good stuff there, all. Right, before we catch
Speaker 2: a break, let's welcome in my buddy Doug from Farmer
Speaker 2: and Chemist.
Speaker 1: Doug. Happy Tuesday man, How are we doing?
Speaker 8: Bence?
Speaker 13: Thanks brother, Happy Tuesday to you as well.
Speaker 1: Appreciate your time.
Speaker 2: So let's start with what you guys helped me out with,
Speaker 2: and that is my sleep issues. Not a great sleeper,
Speaker 2: never have been, not even as a kid. And you
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Speaker 2: been taking out for a couple of weeks. And you know,
Speaker 2: I say this all the time, Doug. When you guys
Speaker 2: join us, Let's get you off the sleep manage. Let's
Speaker 2: get you off the ambient, let's get you off the benzos.
Speaker 2: Let's try something a little bit more natural. So let's
Speaker 2: start with what farmer and chemists can do for folks
Speaker 2: that have trouble sleeping.
Speaker 13: I love what you're saying.
Speaker 8: That's exactly right.
Speaker 13: We have created an amazing gummy that I don't like
Speaker 13: to call it magic, but it's kind of magic. It's
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Speaker 9: And I say that too.
Speaker 13: Does everybody know that with all of those kannabinoids in
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Speaker 8: We have just enough THHC.
Speaker 13: But then the really the best part is that CBN
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Speaker 2: So the other thing, I've got this pesky tennis elbo
Speaker 2: because I golf way too much, and you gave me
Speaker 2: a balm of some sorts that has been super effective. Actually,
Speaker 2: keep a tube of it in my golf bag. So
Speaker 2: if I'm tiding up while I'm playing golf, I just
Speaker 2: lab it on and then rub it in and it
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Speaker 2: people with muscle soreness or arthritis. How can you guys
Speaker 2: help them kind of alleviate some pain and maybe get
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Speaker 13: Yeah, if you think opioids or n sids like I
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Speaker 13: of those have long term negative effects on our liver.
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Speaker 13: about twelve to twenty four hours, depending on what you're
Speaker 13: using it for.
Speaker 2: All right, Doug, before I set you loose, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm sure there are a lot of listeners that have
Speaker 2: heard about the benefits of CBD and are maybe confused, like,
Speaker 2: am I going to buy illegal drugs? Am I going
Speaker 2: in there and buying like a bunch of weed? Like,
Speaker 2: I'm sure we just have it's just lack of education.
Speaker 2: I didn't know about CBD before learning about it through
Speaker 2: you guys. So for our listeners that would be interested,
Speaker 2: maybe they're on some heavy sleep meds or some have
Speaker 2: you pain meds, what's the best process for them to
Speaker 2: become educated and therefore know how you guys can help them.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 13: Thanks, that's a really great question. So Farmer and Chemist
Speaker 13: was developed by pharmacists. I'm a pharmacist, Jeff's a pharmacist.
Speaker 13: We have real chemists. Blake devises all of our products
Speaker 13: and creates them in a pharmaceutical grade lab here in
Speaker 13: the valley. So the best process is just to come
Speaker 13: into the store at seventy seven nineteen South Maine in
Speaker 13: historic Midvale and talk to our team there about problems
Speaker 13: that you're having and how we can help create solutions
Speaker 13: for you. And we're happy to counsel with you. So,
Speaker 13: if you'd like to talk with a pharmacist about those
Speaker 13: opioids and SAIDs or anything else that you're using, and
Speaker 13: find out what a natural alternative might be. We'd be
Speaker 13: happy to share all of our knowledge with you and
Speaker 13: help you learn about CBD that really is effective.
Speaker 2: Doug, you need to record vos for like metical dative apps. Man,
Speaker 2: you've got a very relaxing voice. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you've considered that as a side hustle, but I would
Speaker 2: consider it.
Speaker 13: Well, we'll chat later.
Speaker 8: You can help me out.
Speaker 1: Thanks for the time, man, How are we going?
Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, you have a great day.
Speaker 9: All right?
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Speaker 2: Our next guest one of the best to.
Speaker 1: Ever do it. You know him, you love him.
Speaker 2: Scott Mitchell on a Tuesday afternoon. Scott, Happy Tuesday, buddy,
Speaker 2: How are we doing.
Speaker 8: Excuse me, thanks, I'm doing wonderful spence. You know I
Speaker 8: was up in Ogden last week. I drove through there
Speaker 8: on my way to Logan.
Speaker 2: All right, well, I wish you were back up here today,
Speaker 2: but we'll do it over the phone today, Scott, we'll
Speaker 2: do it over the phone.
Speaker 1: I want to start with a question about two.
Speaker 2: Before we get to the utes, which is where we'll
Speaker 2: spend most of our conversation. So news just came down, Scott.
Speaker 2: He's going to the IR so he's gonna miss four.
Speaker 2: And the conversation, of course, is should he just stop playing?
Speaker 2: Should he step away from the game as a father
Speaker 2: and as a husband who's already made generational wealth, is
Speaker 2: it something he should consider doing. I don't have the
Speaker 2: perspective you do, because you guys are unicorns. What do
Speaker 2: you make of the conversation right now surrounding TUATANGAVLOA.
Speaker 8: Well, it's a history that you know, this isn't the
Speaker 8: first time, it's not even the second time, it's the
Speaker 8: third time, and you really start to have to ask
Speaker 8: yourself the question. There's a lot of history with guys
Speaker 8: who have had concussions. They start to get them and
Speaker 8: then they just they don't go away and they come
Speaker 8: back more frequently. Steve Young had the Troy Aikman Chris
Speaker 8: Miller back in my time, and so it's it's something
Speaker 8: that more than likely is never going to go away
Speaker 8: in his career. And it's a real thing that the concussions,
Speaker 8: and you know, it's it's not about you know, your life,
Speaker 8: because your life in the NFL, even if it's a
Speaker 8: long time, is really a short time in your life.
Speaker 8: There's a lot, a lot to go, a lot of
Speaker 8: life to live after you're done, and you really have
Speaker 8: to ask you yourself a question. It's hard, though, to
Speaker 8: answer that question, because to get there, you put your
Speaker 8: you put your body through so much, you put your
Speaker 8: mind through so much. You've sacrificed so much, and in
Speaker 8: a lot of cases, you know, you've sacrificed a lot
Speaker 8: of having a normal body ever again. And that's just
Speaker 8: the reality of it. And so to get there, to
Speaker 8: have that drive, to have that competitives, it's hard just
Speaker 8: to turn it off. I mean, you thought kind of
Speaker 8: dealing that with that with Cam Rising. You know, he's
Speaker 8: a guy that doesn't know half speed. He doesn't know
Speaker 8: when to run out of bounds. He doesn't know discretion,
Speaker 8: you know, He's just like full speed ahead and I'm
Speaker 8: going to you know, and I'm gonna I'm just gonna
Speaker 8: run into whatever I can and and you don't want
Speaker 8: to take that away, you know, from from a really
Speaker 8: good player, and I think it's hard to So it's
Speaker 8: a hard, a hard decision on top of you know, Spence,
Speaker 8: it's really cool to go to go do that. Like
Speaker 8: I can't even describe to people what it felt like
Speaker 8: to play. It was incredible, it was amazing, and I
Speaker 8: loved it and I loved every minute of it. And
Speaker 8: when it's over, it's over and you don't go back
Speaker 8: to that. So it's a lot of conflicting emotions and
Speaker 8: feelings going through a decision to go, Hey, you know,
Speaker 8: I'm I'm going to pack it in. But you really,
Speaker 8: it's your health, your family, and your your life, your
Speaker 8: quality of life really should should win the day.
Speaker 1: I wonder some interesting stuff there.
Speaker 2: And I was talking about this earlier, because ultimately, you
Speaker 2: had an experience that most of the rest of us
Speaker 2: who played sports growing up dreamed of having but weren't
Speaker 2: able to get there. You were able to get there,
Speaker 2: and you know, I talked to a lot of X pros.
Speaker 2: I work with a lot of X pros on the
Speaker 2: media side. I was on the team side for a
Speaker 2: number of years. Do you ever come close to experiencing anything,
Speaker 2: anything at all like you did when you were a player?
Speaker 2: And attendant to the question, have you ever talked to
Speaker 2: a peer or a former teammate that has been able
Speaker 2: to find that thing that fills that void?
Speaker 1: It always is interesting to me.
Speaker 2: To witness former longtime successful pro athletes try to figure
Speaker 2: out what to do next, and even if they're successful
Speaker 2: in those endeavors, which plenty of them are, they never seem.
Speaker 1: To find that thing. Man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So give me your thoughts on that.
Speaker 8: Well. The only thing that I've come close to feeling
Speaker 8: like when I played is some of the interviews I've
Speaker 8: had on your show. But they were close, they just
Speaker 8: weren't quite there.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm glad I can help fill the void.
Speaker 8: Actually, one of the things that I really enjoy because
Speaker 8: you can't. There's nothing that I've not found anything that
Speaker 8: that replaces it. But I'll tell you something that was close,
Speaker 8: and it was coaching and coaching high school football even
Speaker 8: and it's one thing to go out and do it yourself,
Speaker 8: and and the enter, you know, the excitement of a game.
Speaker 8: And I don't care where you play, you know, or
Speaker 8: coach or whatever. Going out and playing in the game's fun.
Speaker 8: It's exciting, and it's it's a great thing. But to
Speaker 8: see other people learn and have success from something you
Speaker 8: taught them, that that was a that was a cool
Speaker 8: thing for me. And and to see them uh progress
Speaker 8: and get better and win and succeed at it, and
Speaker 8: and and really you know, seeing you change lives, that
Speaker 8: that was extremely exciting for me. I had an opportunity
Speaker 8: to spend some time with Roger Staubach, who did an
Speaker 8: incredible transition from his playing career into very very successful
Speaker 8: commercial real estate endeavor and and I actually asked him,
Speaker 8: I said, you know, you impact the life of so
Speaker 8: many people in your business. You know, I think he
Speaker 8: had fifteen hundred employees. And I said, that must be
Speaker 8: a really satisfying thing. And he says, it's the one
Speaker 8: thought I think about every day that my decisions and
Speaker 8: how I run my business, you know, impact the life
Speaker 8: of thousands of people every day, and it's really the
Speaker 8: driving force of what I'm doing. And so I think,
Speaker 8: you know, engaging in things that make a difference and
Speaker 8: impact people in a good way. That's kind of where
Speaker 8: I've found It. Certainly doesn't replace or feel the same
Speaker 8: as when you played football at its highest level, but
Speaker 8: it's a very rewarding thing to be a part of.
Speaker 2: Well said, all right, last pro football question, then we'll
Speaker 2: move on to some mute stuff. Britain Covey Scott last night,
Speaker 2: I got six targets, six catches, which equals the targets
Speaker 2: and catches he had had prior to last night. Now,
Speaker 2: no AJ Brown, that's Philly's wide receiver one, but that's
Speaker 2: still a crowded room. I got DeVante Smith some other
Speaker 2: good players. Do you think we're going to see this
Speaker 2: moving forward, Britain Covey being utilized not just as a
Speaker 2: punt or a kickoff returner, but actually getting reps and
Speaker 2: getting looks from Jalen Hurts as a wide receiver.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I've always loved Britain. I don't think
Speaker 8: they utilized him as effective as they could have at Utah.
Speaker 8: I mean, he's a in that slot position where you're
Speaker 8: not going up against the team's you know, shut down
Speaker 8: corner you're a little bit undersized, but amazing speed quickness.
Speaker 8: You know, he has that speed and quickness that translates
Speaker 8: to the NFL. He's a playmaker. He's a guy that
Speaker 8: can make plays and he's got a you know, he's
Speaker 8: just a tremendous human being. I mean, he's just a
Speaker 8: really good person. He understands, he gets it, he works
Speaker 8: hard at it. And for guys like that, there's always
Speaker 8: a place. You know, Taysom hill at Uyu, he was
Speaker 8: a quarterback, but he was a much greater athlete and
Speaker 8: they figured out how to utilize him. And the NFL
Speaker 8: is good at that. They just find they find places
Speaker 8: for people who have unique abilities and talents. And you
Speaker 8: see that Julian Edelman's and some of these undersized receivers
Speaker 8: have a ton of success in the NFL because they're
Speaker 8: they're quick, and they can get open and they can
Speaker 8: be productive and and uh, you know, I just see
Speaker 8: Britain being a guy like that, and he's he's done enough.
Speaker 8: He's found ways to keep himself there and relevant because
Speaker 8: there you know, your opportunity will come at some point
Speaker 8: if you stick around, you just have to be ready
Speaker 8: for it when it happens, and you're seeing a little
Speaker 8: bit of that with with Britain in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: All right, moving over the utes, let's uh, let's go
Speaker 2: back to last Saturday, Average Stadium, first time up in
Speaker 2: Logan in twelve years.
Speaker 1: For the utes start out a little Harry and a
Speaker 1: lot of people were nervous.
Speaker 2: You could definitely feel it, getting the text messages from
Speaker 2: buddies and family members like is this really going to
Speaker 2: go down?
Speaker 1: But I is it answered some questions, Scott, I mean,
Speaker 1: I was proud of the kid.
Speaker 2: It's weird to say, but you fans, of course, a
Speaker 2: little PTSD from a year ago, when you know Cam
Speaker 2: goes down, then Brandon goes down, and it was Bryson,
Speaker 2: then it was Nate, that it was Bryson and Nate,
Speaker 2: and it just it never looked. It never looked the
Speaker 2: way it needed to to be prepared for an emergency
Speaker 2: if you lose a couple of quarterbacks. And I think
Speaker 2: at least for one day, Isaac answered some questions about
Speaker 2: what it does look like should Cameron have to miss time?
Speaker 1: So give me your thoughts on Isaac's performance against you here.
Speaker 8: Well, we witnessed the Cam rising backup bull on Saturday,
Speaker 8: you know, between Bryce and Barnes and Isaac Wilson and
Speaker 8: Won the former and now the president, and you know
Speaker 8: that was that was the really big thing for me. Football.
Speaker 8: Football seasons are and games have emotional ebbs and flows
Speaker 8: and and you know, the whole the whole tide of
Speaker 8: the game kind of you know, it just it just
Speaker 8: changes all the time, and good teams, mature teams and
Speaker 8: capable teams find a way to kind of change that
Speaker 8: momentum and answer to that momentum. I think Utah was
Speaker 8: down fourteen to three, and you know, I was one
Speaker 8: of those nervous people as well, and that's when that's
Speaker 8: when it just clicked in and they went on a drive,
Speaker 8: went down and scored And it was really that moment
Speaker 8: of kind of changing that low point in the game
Speaker 8: into a really positive thing. And look, two things are happening. First,
Speaker 8: it's a road game, and road games are real regardless
Speaker 8: of the opponent. And you're in and Utah's in this
Speaker 8: new environment. It's tough, they came to play, they have
Speaker 8: they have some players. And then you're starting a true
Speaker 8: freshman quarterback, Isaac Wilson is I mean, he's barely out
Speaker 8: of high school barely looks like he's at a junior
Speaker 8: high school. And it's and so he's, you know, he's
Speaker 8: dealing with that, and the whole team's dealing with that.
Speaker 8: You know, how does kids going to respond even though
Speaker 8: it's you know, not they're not playing Texas, They're still
Speaker 8: playing a good football team. And and and you still
Speaker 8: get nervous before your first start. And so it took
Speaker 8: a minute and and and it and then when he
Speaker 8: started gaining confidence, it's when everyone else really started gaining confidence.
Speaker 8: But I appreciated coach Whittingham, coach Ludwig for saying, we're
Speaker 8: not going to abandon this kid. We're not going to
Speaker 8: stifle him where I mean they started the third quarter,
Speaker 8: I think they threw the ball five or six straight
Speaker 8: times in a row. I don't know that. I don't
Speaker 8: know that's ever happened with Cam Rising in the game,
Speaker 8: and he and Isaac Wilson was way up to the challenge.
Speaker 8: I mean, he made some really really mature moves and
Speaker 8: throws in the location and uh, you know, he can
Speaker 8: throw the ball pretty much anywhere you need him to,
Speaker 8: and and you could just see him getting more comfortable
Speaker 8: and more confident as the game went on, and I
Speaker 8: just I was just thoroughly impressed with the very beginning
Speaker 8: of Isaac Wilson.
Speaker 2: So let's move over now to what Utah State was
Speaker 2: able to do and what you think it means as
Speaker 2: far as what Utah has to improve upon moving forward,
Speaker 2: because look, there were soul Faizan kid is a good back,
Speaker 2: but they're about to see Ali Gordon, who won the
Speaker 2: dok Walker a year ago nineteen carries one point fifteen.
Speaker 2: Utah State goes for three eighty five in total. Oh,
Speaker 2: I would imagine that Morgan and Kyle aren't thrilled with that,
Speaker 2: And I think it's probably fair to say that if
Speaker 2: you're not better in those areas, Okay, States can provide
Speaker 2: a really, really stiff challenge on the road. So your
Speaker 2: thoughts on that dynamic and other dynamics you think Utah
Speaker 2: needs to improve upon this week to go get that
Speaker 2: win in still Water.
Speaker 8: Well, offensively, you know, it's being able to consistently go
Speaker 8: down the field and score. You're just gonna have to
Speaker 8: do that. You're gonna have to. You can't get shut
Speaker 8: down and go three and out four or five times
Speaker 8: in a game. You don't they don't have very many
Speaker 8: possessions even anymore in college football with the change of time,
Speaker 8: you can't get your defense tired. So and that's what
Speaker 8: Cam Rising is really good at is he can consistently
Speaker 8: go down the field and score on teams. Oklahoma State
Speaker 8: has had some challenges defensively, but on the defensive side,
Speaker 8: you know, Utah decided to go after Bryce and Barnes
Speaker 8: put their dvs who really haven't been put in a
Speaker 8: lot of tests, you know, press man coverage, and bryceon
Speaker 8: took shots, I mean, and some of them he connected
Speaker 8: on amazing catches, but also some really good defensive plays.
Speaker 8: You know, you kind of throw those fifty to fifty
Speaker 8: balls and it was kind of fifty to fifty fifty
Speaker 8: percent of the time. They made great catches and we
Speaker 8: had two really really good interceptions Smith Snowden and Cameron Calhoun.
Speaker 8: But Utah's DNA is to stop the run. Oklahoma States
Speaker 8: DNA is to run the football, and so it's a
Speaker 8: matchup of power versus power. What Oklahoma State it has
Speaker 8: shown is that they're not afraid if you're gonna stack
Speaker 8: the box on them, which everyone has done. Everyone's just
Speaker 8: so far this season just said, we're not going to
Speaker 8: let Olli Gordon beat us. You're gonna have to be
Speaker 8: throwing the football, and Ali Bohannon has actually been able
Speaker 8: to do that so far. And that's the thing I
Speaker 8: think that's really surprised me is Oklahoma State's willingness to
Speaker 8: throw the ball and throw it a lot early this year.
Speaker 8: I think that's going to be the challenge of the game.
Speaker 8: Is you know, you've got to be able to stop
Speaker 8: the run. I mean, if you don't stop the run,
Speaker 8: you're not gonna win. So you've got to be able
Speaker 8: to stop the run. But you also have to minimize
Speaker 8: the success that Oklahoma State's going to have throwing the football.
Speaker 2: All right, Scott, before I set you loose, I mean, look,
Speaker 2: I hate to even say it this way, but if
Speaker 2: I told you that you had to place a sizeable
Speaker 2: bet with the Scott Mitchell quarterback NFL savings on whether
Speaker 2: or not Cameron Rising was going to play all season,
Speaker 2: my guess is you would say probably not. I don't
Speaker 2: know what the confidence level is around here that the
Speaker 2: kick can stay healthy.
Speaker 1: I want him to, we all want him to.
Speaker 2: So let's move over to Saturday and let's go under
Speaker 2: center with Cam, we all believe he is going to
Speaker 2: be the guy?
Speaker 1: What do you hope to see from him?
Speaker 2: Because the whole conversation I had it with you, I
Speaker 2: had it with other coaches, other people leading up to
Speaker 2: the season, is can you change the way that kid's
Speaker 2: mind is wired so that when he is in trouble
Speaker 2: he gets out of trouble as opposed to trying to
Speaker 2: make something happen. So from the standpoint of that, what
Speaker 2: are you hoping to see on Saturday? And then just
Speaker 2: from a big picture standpoint, what are we hoping to
Speaker 2: see from Cameron rising in still Water against Okay State.
Speaker 8: Well, the thing I'm curious about is how much does
Speaker 8: this impact his ability to throw? I mean, he had
Speaker 8: a glove on last week. There's a lot of speculation
Speaker 8: that will wear a glove. Some quarterbacks have had a
Speaker 8: lot of success. Kurt Warner started wearing a glove all
Speaker 8: the time and really liked it. And I know, when
Speaker 8: you go from not wearing a glove to wearing a glove,
Speaker 8: there's just a time of getting comfortable and confident with that.
Speaker 8: And if it if it helps Cam to be successful,
Speaker 8: you know, maybe wearing a glove makes all the difference
Speaker 8: in the world. And he's totally fine throwing the ball,
Speaker 8: but if it's if it's awkward and it feels weird
Speaker 8: and he can't feel get comfortable with it, it's going
Speaker 8: to be an issue. But to me, can he throw effectively?
Speaker 8: And he's going to have to because they're going to
Speaker 8: stack the box against Utah because these two teams are
Speaker 8: mirror images of each other. They want to run, They're
Speaker 8: going to try to run against, you know, an expanded front,
Speaker 8: but they're also going to throw the ball down the
Speaker 8: field when they have to. And I just to me,
Speaker 8: can he can he throw and not not have this
Speaker 8: be an issue. One of the good things Utah has
Speaker 8: this year is two bye weeks. Have a bye week,
Speaker 8: it's the first of October and the first of November.
Speaker 8: And a lot of these kind of nagging injuries that
Speaker 8: some of these players are going to get, They're going
Speaker 8: to get some really good time to rest up and
Speaker 8: go through what I think is going to be a
Speaker 8: long season. And but Cam has got to be able
Speaker 8: to to throw the football. I'm not gonna at this
Speaker 8: point in Cam's career. I think Kyle's kind of come
Speaker 8: to this as well. He's not gonna change who he is.
Speaker 8: He's gonna go out there and he's gonna, you know,
Speaker 8: he's gonna storm the beaches and do his thing. And
Speaker 8: I think you just have to roll with it. And
Speaker 8: but I think he can feel pretty comfortable with Isaac
Speaker 8: Wilson being, you know, a solid backup, and he'll probably
Speaker 8: end up playing some more this year.
Speaker 2: All right, Scott, thanks for the time. Buddy travels safe
Speaker 2: and I have a great call on Saturday.
Speaker 8: Okay, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thanks all right, Scott Mitchell joining us.
Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, Bill Riley will stop
Speaker 2: by the Voice the Voice of the Utes himself, The
Speaker 2: Bill Riley Mullet Watch is on, by the way, time
Speaker 2: to catch up with a voice the Voice of the Utes,
Speaker 2: and the Bill Riley Mullet Watch continues as Utah is
Speaker 2: now three to zero. Ryle's happy Tuesday, man, How are
Speaker 2: we doing?
Speaker 10: I'm not doing as good as you are in O
Speaker 10: town with your bling and your boom.
Speaker 1: Look, you know me, I'm about the bling, I'm about
Speaker 1: the boom. I'm about America. I'm about football, you know.
Speaker 2: You know me?
Speaker 1: Bill, this is right down my alley, well it is.
Speaker 10: And speaking of mullet Watch. It's only appropriate to bring
Speaker 10: mullet watch up as we head to Oklahoma State this weekend,
Speaker 10: where the guy that rocks the mullets from back when,
Speaker 10: back in his playing day is still rocking it today.
Speaker 10: Mike Gundhy is the head coach.
Speaker 2: So we do need to reset Bill because you join
Speaker 2: me preseason. And I said, Bill in honor of Mike Gundhy,
Speaker 2: in honor of the Big twelve. Quite frankly, we're gonna
Speaker 2: see a lot mullets this year, Gay, more mullets than
Speaker 2: we're used to. Will you agree to grow a mullets
Speaker 2: if utahgoes twelve and oh?
Speaker 1: And your response was.
Speaker 10: Absolutely yes, sir, grow a mullet out. I will party,
Speaker 10: you know, business upfront, party in the back if the
Speaker 10: utes go twelve and zero on the regular season that
Speaker 10: spends check its is my pledge to you, and I
Speaker 10: will come out on a remote bling and boom or
Speaker 10: non and we will sport that mullet next fall we
Speaker 10: have to play. I'll rocket the entire off seat. Well
Speaker 10: I won't say the entire offseason. I'll rock it to
Speaker 10: a point. But you can be the judge and jury
Speaker 10: of how long I keep the mullet.
Speaker 2: Bro you almost just buried yourself. I was not expecting
Speaker 2: you keeping the mullet all off season, but you almost
Speaker 2: put that on the table.
Speaker 1: That's why I just let you go. I want to
Speaker 1: see if you'd actually do that.
Speaker 2: The fact of the matter is the remote that you
Speaker 2: need to come on when you have your mullet is
Speaker 2: the blinging boom special.
Speaker 1: It feels right.
Speaker 10: Well, you know, we probably should move it up to
Speaker 10: Smith and Edwards. I think the mullet probably fits better
Speaker 10: at Smith and Edwards than it does at the jewelry store.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough, moving on.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to re establish the Bill Riley mullett
Speaker 2: watch on our little radio show.
Speaker 1: Here all right, Bill, I thought Isaac answered a lot
Speaker 1: of questions.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 2: I thought he met the moment. I was skeptical. It
Speaker 2: didn't look great against but Baylor. It didn't look great
Speaker 2: to st But I sounds weird to say. I was
Speaker 2: prid of the kid. Man.
Speaker 1: I thought he answered a lot of questions on Saturday.
Speaker 1: What are your takeaways?
Speaker 10: I thought he looked really good. It's amazing with you know,
Speaker 10: another week of practice, when you get most of the
Speaker 10: reps and you know you you get you know, you
Speaker 10: know the game plans yours. I just thought he was
Speaker 10: really good. You know, he was a little I won't
Speaker 10: say shake yet. I think he was just there were
Speaker 10: some nerves early when the ball was sailing on him,
Speaker 10: but once he got dialed in, you could really see him.
Speaker 10: And you know, there were two throws spins he made
Speaker 10: two of them. They were almost the same throw that
Speaker 10: that in between the safety and linebacker, in between the
Speaker 10: linebacker and corner. Throw that he dropped in a couple
Speaker 10: of times on the sideline to Money Parks. Those are
Speaker 10: high level throws. And I thought he did a heck
Speaker 10: of a job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree with you.
Speaker 2: So, you know, with the sensitivity of injuries, shout out
Speaker 2: coach Lud. I know they don't talk much about them.
Speaker 2: I just I need to know where we're at with
Speaker 2: Cameron on a Tuesday. All the intel I have, all
Speaker 2: the intel most people seem to have, is that he
Speaker 2: is good to go. He's planning on playing quarterback against Okay,
Speaker 2: Stayton still Water, you're the voice.
Speaker 1: What's the update?
Speaker 10: They do the coaches show tonight. So I'll be heading
Speaker 10: over to the facility in a little while. I'll get
Speaker 10: a better update. But I think Dorian Singer said to
Speaker 10: the media yesterday, maybe the Josh Furlong from KSL, that
Speaker 10: he was expecting Cam to play this weekend. So I'm
Speaker 10: not sure if Dorian got the memo, the Ambulandwig memo
Speaker 10: and the Kyle Whittingham memo about not talking about injuries,
Speaker 10: but I think he build Josh Furlong he's expecting Cam
Speaker 10: to play. So I'll have better feel for tonight. I
Speaker 10: have to talk to to Kyle. But I think that's
Speaker 10: kind of what everybody thought, unless there's some sort of
Speaker 10: a setback that I think everybody was kind of circling
Speaker 10: this date. Brett McMurphy had reported it last week at
Speaker 10: Action the Action Network, and then you know, I think
Speaker 10: it was Dorian Singer who said something yesterday. So I
Speaker 10: think that's the expectation this weekend.
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 2: That's kind of how we're operating on the show as well.
Speaker 2: So recently, Bill, you became a fan of the Kansas
Speaker 2: City Chiefs, so I want to ask you a question
Speaker 2: about obviously a kid, Bill's been a lifelong Chiefs man.
Speaker 2: I felt about Utah the same way I felt this
Speaker 2: weekend about watching the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: I never thought they were going to lose. Were you
Speaker 1: ever nervous on Saturday?
Speaker 2: Did you feel like it was getting to the point
Speaker 2: where this upset could potentially go down? Uh?
Speaker 10: No, I didn't. I just thought Utah was better. I
Speaker 10: thought Utah State treated it like it was their super Bowl,
Speaker 10: and they played out of their minds, and Bryce and
Speaker 10: Barnes made some really nice plays, and I thought they
Speaker 10: schemed things up really well. But I never got the
Speaker 10: sense that they were going to be good enough for
Speaker 10: four quarters to beat Utah. Maybe I didn't think they'd
Speaker 10: put twenty one on the board, but I thought that
Speaker 10: they had a really good game plan and they ran
Speaker 10: it okay, and Barnes used his legs and made some
Speaker 10: nice throws. But there was never a point where I
Speaker 10: thought that Utah might lose that game. Conversely, there were
Speaker 10: several points where I thought maybe the Chiefs would lose.
Speaker 10: But at this point in time, I think I should
Speaker 10: just understand that both Mahomes and Specnolo's defense are really good,
Speaker 10: so they know good teams find ways to win, and
Speaker 10: the Utes are good, the Chiefs are good.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 2: At this point, you should watch Chiefs games with no anxiety.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, they just always seem to figure it out.
Speaker 2: They'll stub their toe here there, they'll be there in February.
Speaker 2: They're probably gonna win the damn thing again. But anyway,
Speaker 2: moving on, I don't mean this disrespectfully to Rashul Faison,
Speaker 2: who is a very competent back. He goes for a
Speaker 2: buck fifteen. But Utah's about si Ali Gordon, all right.
Speaker 2: He won the joke Walker, as we all know. And
Speaker 2: I would imagine if you're Morgan Scalley, I would imagine
Speaker 2: if you're Kyle Whittingham, you're watching that game film and
Speaker 2: you're a little bit concerned about Utah State going for
Speaker 2: what three eighty five on oh, I would imagine this week,
Speaker 2: the defense has it a pretty intense task to improve
Speaker 2: prior to Saturday.
Speaker 10: Well, it's funny because you can't really just luging. Alan
Speaker 10: Bowman a good quarterback. Now, he's as old as Cam Rising.
Speaker 10: He's played more football than Rising. But he's good, and
Speaker 10: they've got good receivers. They're pretty balanced. But yeah, you're
Speaker 10: always gonna hear coaches. He'll probably say it on the
Speaker 10: Coaches Show tonight. Get to stop the run first and
Speaker 10: Oli Gordon ran for seventeen hundred yards and twenty one
Speaker 10: touchdowns a year ago up to a little bit slower
Speaker 10: start this year. And I'm not sure why yet. I
Speaker 10: haven't kind of dug into Oklahoma State stuff yet, but
Speaker 10: he's really good and I think part of its spence
Speaker 10: is karennie Reid didn't play Saturday, and he missed the
Speaker 10: second half of the game against Baylor the week before.
Speaker 10: And as good as Lander Barton is, karennie Reid's kind
Speaker 10: of the kind of the heart and soul and the
Speaker 10: eyes and ears of that defense getting everybody in the
Speaker 10: right place. And I think there was probably a little
Speaker 10: bit of an adjustment period without krennie Reid last week.
Speaker 10: So whether it's so Ony fo two or it's John
Speaker 10: new Hall this week that steps in at that linebacker spot, whoever,
Speaker 10: it is more responsibility on Lander Barton because he's kind
Speaker 10: of the veteran in there. But those guys have to
Speaker 10: be in the gaps and tackle better than they were
Speaker 10: a week ago. Because you're right, Faison's a solid running back,
Speaker 10: Ollie Gordon's and NFL he'll be playing on Sundays running
Speaker 10: back and if you don't doesn't stop the run. Oklahoma
Speaker 10: State will run it all day long.
Speaker 2: So just to follow up, is the anticipation that Utah
Speaker 2: goes to still Water without Karena?
Speaker 8: I think so.
Speaker 10: I saw him last week and he had a walking
Speaker 10: boot on, so my anticipation is, yes, that's probably the case.
Speaker 10: I don't know. Again, I haven't been over the facility
Speaker 10: yet this week, but when I saw him last week,
Speaker 10: he was in a walking boot and said it might
Speaker 10: be a little while, So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So as of now, I kind of
Speaker 2: feel about the running back position as I do about
Speaker 2: the quarterback position.
Speaker 1: It's pretty clear mackay is the guy. But the more
Speaker 1: and more I watch Mike, I think there's a lot
Speaker 1: to like.
Speaker 2: So does it feel like it settled into Mackay and
Speaker 2: Mike and then maybe with a side I'm not going
Speaker 2: to do the mustard joke I almost did, but with
Speaker 2: a side of Dijon Stanle outside of those two, does
Speaker 2: that feel like that's where we've landed?
Speaker 8: Yeah? I think so.
Speaker 10: I mean McKay has established himself as running back one,
Speaker 10: and really Mike Mitchell has been good. He's just got
Speaker 10: a I think Kyle's noted it a couple of times.
Speaker 10: He's got a little bit of a nagging ankle thing
Speaker 10: that will flare up during games. But I thought he
Speaker 10: ran really well last week. I really did. I thought
Speaker 10: he ran the ball really really well. He had seventy
Speaker 10: five yards, made a tough inside running. But yeah, I
Speaker 10: think those two have established themselves as RB one and
Speaker 10: RB two. Then you've got Dijon Stanley, a little Charlie Vincent.
Speaker 10: Not sure what's going on with Jalen Glover. Didn't see
Speaker 10: him last week, but he's got some experience too. But
Speaker 10: I definitely think it's Bernard and Mitchell as one and two.
Speaker 2: Let me follow up about Jalen who we saw go
Speaker 2: for a bucko seven against Colorado last year. We saw
Speaker 2: him with a really good game and a tough win
Speaker 2: against UCLA a year ago. And you even go back
Speaker 2: a couple of years, you know, twenty carries seventy six
Speaker 2: years on the polue in a big win thirteen sixty
Speaker 2: to a touchdown at Colorado. We've seen Jalen Glover play
Speaker 2: the running back position at Utah very efficiently at times.
Speaker 2: Is this just like, hey, the room's crowded, or is
Speaker 2: there anything else beyond that that you're.
Speaker 10: Hearing that, I don't know. I think it's a crowded
Speaker 10: room as much as anything else. I think Jalen is
Speaker 10: one of those really solid running backs, but a couple
Speaker 10: of the other guys might just have a little bit
Speaker 10: more juice. But I don't I haven't heard her known
Speaker 10: anything that would say anything otherwise. I just think right
Speaker 10: now that Mitchell is a young guy who really if
Speaker 10: he would have played last fall he kind of red
Speaker 10: shirted last fall, might have popped just a little bit.
Speaker 10: He was kind of learning the whole position. But they
Speaker 10: just love his overall skill set. And you know, Mackai
Speaker 10: Bernartchsman in the program for a little while.
Speaker 2: You know, Bill, most smart people who follow sports know
Speaker 2: that basketball players just do it better.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 2: That's not me, that's other people that follow sports. So
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just kind of a decent take here.
Speaker 2: I gotta say, man, first of all, respect to Caleb
Speaker 2: or even trying this.
Speaker 1: You know, basketball player at Utah.
Speaker 2: BYU and Baylor, and I can remember watching him all
Speaker 2: the way back in high school and just thinking like
Speaker 2: that kid is an absolute beast of an athlete who
Speaker 2: needs to learn how to play basketball at a high level,
Speaker 2: just with a more complete skill set as he decides
Speaker 2: to level up. If he ever wants to be a
Speaker 2: pro basketball player, he's got to just get He's never
Speaker 2: had a great feel for the game overall.
Speaker 1: He was never a great shooter and never a great pastor.
Speaker 2: But what he was is an insane athlete that would
Speaker 2: dunk on your head and go get fifteen boards, you know,
Speaker 2: while napping through a game. So the skill set translates.
Speaker 2: I give him a ton of credit for trying this
Speaker 2: beautiful ball from Isaac. Another red zone target for Caleb.
Speaker 2: It feels like coach Coach loved. They've got themselves a
Speaker 2: pretty special red zone weapon, doesn't it.
Speaker 8: It does?
Speaker 10: And he just the athleticism pops. I love the fact
Speaker 10: that they called that plate dunk. We talked to him
Speaker 10: after the game and Isaac said, they called that plate dunk,
Speaker 10: so it's throw it up to the big guy and
Speaker 10: let him go get it.
Speaker 8: The funny thing is.
Speaker 10: Two spence when you see him running around and you
Speaker 10: don't see it as much in the game, but you're
Speaker 10: a little bit more in the game now. But when
Speaker 10: I saw him running around to practice this fall, he
Speaker 10: just looked. I mean, he doesn't look out of place.
Speaker 10: That's the weird thing. Is he as fluid yet as
Speaker 10: Brand Keith, he will know. But Brand's, you know, an
Speaker 10: All American caliber tight end. Caleb Loner hasn't played football
Speaker 10: since seventh grade. Seventh grade was the last time he
Speaker 10: played football that he turned into a basketball player. So
Speaker 10: for this guy to be able to come out having
Speaker 10: that played football since seventh grade and make a tangible
Speaker 10: impact on the field with really one fault he didn't
Speaker 10: play in the spring one fault camp under his belt's
Speaker 10: pretty amazing. And then the other great part about it
Speaker 10: is is that tight end rue is loaded. Carson Ryan
Speaker 10: got a touchdown pass and you saw his hand Saturday.
Speaker 10: We know what Keith he can do. Heck Landon King,
Speaker 10: who I thought was going to be poised to have
Speaker 10: a breakout maybe still could, doesn't even have a catch
Speaker 10: yet this year we saw how good he was. Last
Speaker 10: year Teethey didn't play. They've got kind of an embarrassment
Speaker 10: of riches in that tight end room.
Speaker 2: So through three games, Bill, I always talk about this
Speaker 2: up until conference starts, and then even maybe the first
Speaker 2: couple of games of conference play, when I just say,
Speaker 2: observation out conclusion, you know, like that's why I wasn't
Speaker 2: concerned about Isaac. You know, after the SUU and then
Speaker 2: the Baylor game, I said on air it had to
Speaker 2: be better, and it did, but it was I mean,
Speaker 2: what you look for, as you know as well as anyone,
Speaker 2: is just week by week improvements.
Speaker 1: Are you seeing through three games? Have you seen week
Speaker 1: by week improvement?
Speaker 2: And attendant to that, what do you feel like you're
Speaker 2: confident today to say that you know about Utah through
Speaker 2: three games, and what do you feel like needs to
Speaker 2: get better?
Speaker 10: Well, I think, well, it's just a quarterback play, meaning
Speaker 10: pick one guy. But I think we get that back
Speaker 10: to I think we get it back this week with
Speaker 10: Cam Rising. Although I will say, and back to your
Speaker 10: point we started off talking about Isaac Isaac Wilson. I
Speaker 10: think if you're a Utah fan, you're got to be
Speaker 10: thrilled with what the potential for the future is. And
Speaker 10: it's always kind of been year to year when quarterbacks left,
Speaker 10: it's like, what do we have coming with us next one?
Speaker 10: I think we know with Isaac Wilson, I've been most impressed.
Speaker 10: I think Spence with the improvement of the secondary I
Speaker 10: think it was probably a little bit unsure of that
Speaker 10: with the two safeties they lost in the corners and
Speaker 10: then they lose Kennan Johnson in the first game. But
Speaker 10: to see Zamaya Vaughn and to see Scooby Davis, and
Speaker 10: to see Theo Johnson, and to see Nate Ritchie and
Speaker 10: to see that kid Cameron Calhoun come in and get
Speaker 10: his first real bit of playing time and have an interception.
Speaker 10: In the past breakup, I think I've probably seen the
Speaker 10: most improvement in that secondary. What I want to see
Speaker 10: being a little bit better, probably playing the run game,
Speaker 10: just because Baylor had some moments and then Utah State
Speaker 10: had some moments. And we both know that Baylor and
Speaker 10: Utah State aren't quite the caliber of Oklahoma State. So
Speaker 10: if anything, if I want a nitpick, I'd probably say,
Speaker 10: let's see how they play against the run.
Speaker 2: This week, all right before I say you lose. You
Speaker 2: is now a two point favorite. That could change. That
Speaker 2: line has moved like four times, opened up slightly in
Speaker 2: the direction of the Cowboys, uh swung the way of
Speaker 2: the Utes.
Speaker 1: It's now settled Utah minus two.
Speaker 2: Never been to Boone Picking Stadium, never been a stillwater
Speaker 2: maybe one day if dreams come true. But what ultimately
Speaker 2: do you feel like Utah needs to do to go
Speaker 2: on the road and get what would be a massive
Speaker 2: early statement win to the rest of the Big twelve.
Speaker 10: Well, I think they need a good start spence. They
Speaker 10: can't fall behind like they did to Utah State, because
Speaker 10: that place is going to be loud. It's a little bit,
Speaker 10: just slightly bigger than rice Ecles, but it's right in
Speaker 10: that same range. But it's loud and it's it'll be full.
Speaker 10: And those are those are the Oklahoma State fans, a
Speaker 10: great fans. So I think Utah offensively, you know, needs
Speaker 10: to get some some some momentum going early. And I
Speaker 10: think you again, just a hard heart back on what
Speaker 10: we've talked about, you know, make make them throw on
Speaker 10: you a little bit, make make them drop back. Alan
Speaker 10: Bowman has played seven years of college football. He's played
Speaker 10: at Texas Tech, He's played at Michigan, now he's played
Speaker 10: it at Oklahoma State. He's a good quarterback. But let
Speaker 10: guys like Fillinger and O'Toole and Fano and Tofoon and
Speaker 10: those guys upfront create a little bit of pressure. And
Speaker 10: if they can do that, I think Utah has a
Speaker 10: real good chance to go in there and hang with
Speaker 10: Oklahoma State and get a win.
Speaker 1: All Right, Ryles, appreciate the time man, save travels and
Speaker 1: have a great call.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, thanks Ben Bill Riley, Voice of the Utes.
Speaker 2: Coming up, Utah is going to still Water two o'clock
Speaker 2: on Saturday.
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