WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.919 --> 00:00:04.759 If we have fellow listeners who actually read this book. 2 00:00:05.000 --> 00:00:06.120 Oh my god, I'm so sorry. 3 00:00:06.120 --> 00:00:06.519 I'm sorry. 4 00:00:07.160 --> 00:00:09.519 Take out the fact that he's a vampire. He's basically 5 00:00:09.560 --> 00:00:11.880 just like an old man who's like, I love you, 6 00:00:11.960 --> 00:00:12.839 but I might hurt you. 7 00:00:13.080 --> 00:00:15.439 Sounds to me like the fantasy writings of a. 8 00:00:15.599 --> 00:00:18.879 Rejected of an adult who had a very hard time 9 00:00:18.920 --> 00:00:19.480 in high school. 10 00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:22.039 I wonder what vampire baseball is going to be. Guess what. 11 00:00:22.079 --> 00:00:22.559 It's just. 12 00:00:24.120 --> 00:00:26.519 It's very rare to find somebody who will watch you 13 00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:28.600 sleep without your permission. 14 00:00:29.399 --> 00:00:32.520 Hello, and welcome to Mean Book Club. My name is 15 00:00:32.520 --> 00:00:35.880 Clara Morris. I'm your favorite in the club. Today we 16 00:00:36.119 --> 00:00:38.359 are going to be talking Twilight. 17 00:00:38.759 --> 00:00:41.159 I'm Sarah. I'm your second favorite. 18 00:00:40.799 --> 00:00:43.359 Oh self proclaimed second favorite. 19 00:00:43.399 --> 00:00:45.920 I'm Sabrina. And the only reason I'm not your favorite 20 00:00:46.000 --> 00:00:48.560 is because you're too shy to make me your favorite. 21 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:52.600 So I'm the host of your show. Damn it, John's Crags. 22 00:00:53.320 --> 00:00:55.960 I thought it was absolutely, by far, the best book 23 00:00:56.000 --> 00:00:57.600 we've read so far for this project. 24 00:00:59.119 --> 00:01:01.439 Maybe in my East is getting skewed because I only 25 00:01:01.479 --> 00:01:04.519 read bad books. Now, I really had a good time. 26 00:01:04.760 --> 00:01:07.719 I did a free trial of audible dot Com and 27 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:09.799 listened to it on the commute, and it made the 28 00:01:09.799 --> 00:01:11.840 commute fly the bye. 29 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:17.719 I actually have read this book before, as I've read 30 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:20.719 all of the Twilight books. I think in two thousand 31 00:01:20.719 --> 00:01:23.040 and eight or nine, somewhere around there. 32 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:25.319 You were a young young teenager at that time. 33 00:01:25.519 --> 00:01:27.359 I was a baby. 34 00:01:27.519 --> 00:01:31.120 No, I was in college, and it was a Christmas 35 00:01:31.200 --> 00:01:35.040 break and I read them all in less than one week, 36 00:01:35.439 --> 00:01:38.519 really pathetic, loved them, devoured them. Bought it again because 37 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:41.719 it's been about ten years, and I read about one 38 00:01:41.799 --> 00:01:43.840 hundred and fifty pages of it, and last night I 39 00:01:43.879 --> 00:01:45.680 watched the movie. 40 00:01:46.159 --> 00:01:49.359 I'm thinking about watching the movie. Thanks last night. 41 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:50.799 You say last night. 42 00:01:50.920 --> 00:01:54.560 From what I understand, you were out last night till 43 00:01:54.640 --> 00:01:59.079 pretty late. You started your night around night, so exactly 44 00:01:59.120 --> 00:01:59.959 what time did you watch? 45 00:02:00.599 --> 00:02:04.480 So from seven thirty to nine thirty I did work 46 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:07.280 and watch Twilight, and then yeah, I ended up going 47 00:02:07.319 --> 00:02:08.960 out at eleven until five. 48 00:02:09.199 --> 00:02:15.400 So I listened to it mostly on YouTube. I found 49 00:02:15.439 --> 00:02:18.599 a free audiobook. The only problem was that every five 50 00:02:18.639 --> 00:02:21.000 minutes there was like a commercial, and that was. 51 00:02:20.960 --> 00:02:23.159 It sounds really horrible, it. 52 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:25.879 Was, it was, but you know, you do what you 53 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:26.520 gotta do. 54 00:02:26.639 --> 00:02:27.080 Got to do. 55 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:33.039 I read the book via book that I hurt. I 56 00:02:33.080 --> 00:02:35.960 got it from Barnes and Noble on a partial gift card. 57 00:02:36.159 --> 00:02:38.560 I know I watched one of the Twilight movies years ago, 58 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:40.520 or I read one of the books. I don't know. 59 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:43.479 I read this book. There's a lot a lot to 60 00:02:43.520 --> 00:02:44.159 hate about it. 61 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:46.520 Yeah, but I loved it. 62 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:51.439 Wow. Yeah, maybe we'll have the most negative feelings towards it. Yeah. 63 00:02:51.520 --> 00:02:53.479 I have a lot of negative feelings, but they're all 64 00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:56.680 really trumped by the great feelings I have. 65 00:02:57.080 --> 00:02:59.639 It's tough for me because when I read it for real, 66 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:02.439 really loved it and a nostalgia. 67 00:03:02.479 --> 00:03:04.080 I have a lot of her nostalgia. 68 00:03:04.280 --> 00:03:06.599 But most of my complaints are about the pacing of 69 00:03:06.759 --> 00:03:09.520 the movie. From what I re read of the book, 70 00:03:09.520 --> 00:03:12.120 I felt like the pacing of it was maybe also 71 00:03:12.240 --> 00:03:13.759 not as great, so maybe I could. 72 00:03:13.960 --> 00:03:15.840 Yeah. That was my big issue. The book was the 73 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:18.319 probably the second half. I was bored out of my 74 00:03:18.400 --> 00:03:20.879 mind and I was like into it for first half 75 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:23.080 and then I was like this could be over by 76 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:24.800 now I'm done with it. 77 00:03:24.919 --> 00:03:28.319 I felt more bored in the first half, Oh wow, because. 78 00:03:28.039 --> 00:03:29.000 It was like the love. 79 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:32.360 The love was what it was like, get to it. 80 00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:35.759 If he's a vampire. We fucking know, get to it. 81 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:38.680 He doesn't know, she doesn't know. It could have been radioactivity. 82 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:40.520 That was a part I liked. Once she had him, 83 00:03:40.520 --> 00:03:41.319 it was boring to me. 84 00:03:41.400 --> 00:03:44.479 I was like, what the vampire chase was boring to you? 85 00:03:44.840 --> 00:03:46.719 Getting the vampires what I was into. Then once you 86 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:48.240 had it, I was like, well, this is stupid. 87 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:51.960 You shouldn't know mestic when the bad vampires are chasing her. 88 00:03:52.240 --> 00:03:53.439 Oh, that was really boring. 89 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:54.479 That was boring. 90 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:56.639 That was the only exciting. 91 00:03:56.919 --> 00:03:58.280 No, I like the lead up. 92 00:03:58.319 --> 00:03:59.919 There's no sex in this book right now. 93 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:03.319 No, No, I think it says that he can never 94 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:03.680 have sex. 95 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:05.560 I think that's also part of it, because I think 96 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:08.319 once they got together and that wasn't happening, I was like, well, 97 00:04:08.520 --> 00:04:10.560 I'm checking out a little bit here. And then there 98 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:12.599 was like a fampire chase and I'm like, well, I 99 00:04:12.680 --> 00:04:15.159 know there's a bunch of their books. She's not gonna die. 100 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:19.319 So this is called Twilight, and the basic premise is 101 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:21.519 that we meet Bella. 102 00:04:21.879 --> 00:04:23.720 This Isabella Swan. 103 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:28.920 Isabella Swan. She's like a pallid little uh freak freak 104 00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:33.000 who moves from Phoenix to Seattle because her parents. 105 00:04:33.399 --> 00:04:35.959 I never understood that people would expect her to be 106 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:39.160 a cheerleader because she moved from Phoenix. 107 00:04:38.920 --> 00:04:41.959 Where the home of cheerleaders, right, right, right, But she's 108 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:45.360 not Okay, she's not sunny, she's not tan, and she's 109 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:46.000 not blonde. 110 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:49.279 She fits in and Seattle she fits in, and she 111 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:49.959 loves reading. 112 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:51.279 She's read all the books. 113 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:56.240 She somehow is extremely smart and independent at this kind 114 00:04:56.279 --> 00:04:58.240 of stuff moving being an adult. 115 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:00.439 I didn't understand this. I could really to her in 116 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:03.079 any way that she like. I was like, what her parents, 117 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:05.360 Her mom's just like traveling with her boy. I was like, 118 00:05:05.480 --> 00:05:09.040 that's so detached, don't even have the mom. Yeah, honestly, 119 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:11.120 she may as well be dead. It was fine with. 120 00:05:11.079 --> 00:05:11.720 Her being dead. 121 00:05:11.800 --> 00:05:14.040 She could have That's again at the ending didn't pay 122 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:15.680 off for me. I said, she should be dead. I 123 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:16.319 don't like her. 124 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:17.279 I can't remember. 125 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:19.560 It's possible this is all lead up to something that 126 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:21.399 happens in one of the other books, and they're like 127 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:22.759 really laying the foundation. 128 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:24.959 I'm never going to write another one, and I don't. 129 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:27.360 She could have just moved there, didn't need to have 130 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:28.720 all this other shit around. 131 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:31.720 I believe what it was was that Bella lived with 132 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:34.040 her mother in Phoenix for her entire life. Then the 133 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:37.600 mother got a boyfriend who had a travel job baseball player, 134 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:40.560 so the mother would be at the baseball games and 135 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:43.240 leave Belle at home. And Belle thought it was better 136 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:46.240 to go to Seattle with her dad than be home alone. 137 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:49.279 Bella, why would you want to be home alone? I 138 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:50.759 want more supervision. 139 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:52.480 I don't feel comfortable before. 140 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:55.000 Yeah, and also, who nobody wants to move when they're seventeen, 141 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:56.759 You're like two years left to high school. 142 00:05:56.879 --> 00:05:58.560 Yeah, maybe she didn't have any friends. 143 00:05:58.879 --> 00:06:01.519 Yeah, didn't they say she's like, did sit in with anybody, 144 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:04.120 but that she wasn't weird, like she meet friends immediately. 145 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:06.639 It wasn't blonde either, Sarah. 146 00:06:06.680 --> 00:06:10.839 So she moves to the yeah, where she is immediately, 147 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:17.319 she captivates the interest of every single male. She is 148 00:06:17.360 --> 00:06:20.600 the most beautiful thing, probably the experience we've all had. 149 00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:22.079 You have to understand there are a lot of ages 150 00:06:22.160 --> 00:06:24.319 in Seattle, so that's the one thing you have to understand. 151 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:25.759 Yeah, it's kind of like unspoken. 152 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:28.439 Her father is the sheriff of the small town. But 153 00:06:28.519 --> 00:06:31.759 everybody still likes her and no one calls her a narc. 154 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:37.040 Yeah, and they lay some foundation early that the sheriff 155 00:06:37.120 --> 00:06:38.160 does like the Cullens. 156 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:39.519 He thinks they're wonderful. 157 00:06:39.639 --> 00:06:44.879 The Collins being the vampire families, we just. 158 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:47.519 Know that they're beautiful. There's four of them and they 159 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:48.879 sit in a corner of the cafeteria to. 160 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:49.879 There's five of each other. 161 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:51.079 They're just like we, We're. 162 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:53.319 All adopted by a young, beautiful surgeon. 163 00:06:53.959 --> 00:06:57.279 They justify that they move around every two years so 164 00:06:57.319 --> 00:07:00.279 that they can keep graduating, because the more or they 165 00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:03.319 move around, the like they can stay. If they start 166 00:07:03.319 --> 00:07:06.439 in junior year and then they have junior their year 167 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:09.279 there and senior year there. Instead of what they could 168 00:07:09.319 --> 00:07:11.879 do is just move there and pretend to be eighteen 169 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:14.600 and just get jobs and work in those jobs for 170 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:18.480 I don't know, ten years because I look exactly the. 171 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:19.240 Same as I do. 172 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:23.000 What you can be eighteen, so but instead they just 173 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:25.759 do two years of high school everywhere. Very weird. 174 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:27.920 But I think if you're three or four hundred years old, 175 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:29.839 what you want to keep reliving over and over again 176 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:31.959 is junior and senior year of Also. 177 00:07:31.839 --> 00:07:33.480 Why do you have to go to high school? 178 00:07:33.720 --> 00:07:36.600 Who? Who is tracking them? No one? 179 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:37.439 They're vampires. 180 00:07:37.439 --> 00:07:39.879 They haven't the grossest thing about it is that you're like, 181 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:42.120 this guy's like one hundred and something years old and 182 00:07:42.160 --> 00:07:44.319 he's like hitting on high school, right, but she has 183 00:07:44.360 --> 00:07:48.360 an old soul that's like it's an extreme pedophilia type thing. 184 00:07:48.399 --> 00:07:50.079 It's really disturbing when you. 185 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:52.720 Start thinking about it, when you're like, oh, wow, this 186 00:07:52.800 --> 00:07:55.839 guy's so charming and different and he's such a man. 187 00:07:56.040 --> 00:07:59.879 It's like, yeah, because he's three hundred years old, couldn't 188 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:02.839 at least be attracted to like a fifty year old woman. 189 00:08:02.959 --> 00:08:05.199 Well, he is frozen at seventeen. 190 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:10.199 Shit, yeah, audience is mine has lived for three hundred years. 191 00:08:10.639 --> 00:08:13.639 He has the knowledge of someone who is three hundred 192 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:16.240 years old. But that doesn't mean that he's, you know, 193 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:17.839 emotionally matured. 194 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:21.240 I would think you'd have to be emotionally mature if 195 00:08:21.279 --> 00:08:21.839 you've lived that. 196 00:08:23.079 --> 00:08:25.360 I mean, if you're a vampire, though, your emotional maturity 197 00:08:25.399 --> 00:08:26.160 is so different. 198 00:08:26.480 --> 00:08:28.399 It's going to be you're never going to get beyond 199 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:29.279 this certain point. 200 00:08:29.399 --> 00:08:29.759 I think. 201 00:08:29.839 --> 00:08:31.480 So, I think you're never going to get beyond the 202 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:32.440 certain I want to. 203 00:08:32.360 --> 00:08:33.919 Marry that person, I'll tell you that much. 204 00:08:34.039 --> 00:08:37.600 Well, but she wants to be with him forever and 205 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:39.960 grow in their lives. They could grow in their love together. 206 00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:41.200 No one's thinking this out. 207 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:43.279 I'm real into vampire romance. 208 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:45.080 If it's not apparent. 209 00:08:44.960 --> 00:08:47.399 I feel like you're making a lot of logic leaps 210 00:08:47.399 --> 00:08:50.279 and excuses for this pedophile character. 211 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:51.080 Yeah. 212 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:53.440 And also I have to say, this isn't my first 213 00:08:53.600 --> 00:08:58.200 vampire true blood true Blood Buffy. Yeah, so it's like 214 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:01.080 they didn't have any pedophile like characters. 215 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:02.360 Yeah, don't remember. 216 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:04.799 I was just going to justify it, and I immediately 217 00:09:04.799 --> 00:09:06.759 take back my justification. But this is what I was 218 00:09:06.799 --> 00:09:09.360 going to say. It's written four teenage girls, and you 219 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:12.360 want the people in the reading it to relate to 220 00:09:12.440 --> 00:09:15.159 the story. But I guess we don't want teenage girls 221 00:09:15.279 --> 00:09:17.840 relating to dating three hundred year old men. 222 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:20.480 No. I guess I wouldn't want that. My daughter wouldn't 223 00:09:20.480 --> 00:09:22.240 be allowed to read this book. 224 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:26.000 Yeah, the message it sends to a teenager I don't like. 225 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:27.720 I mean, first of all, it's anti Christian. 226 00:09:27.759 --> 00:09:28.279 I'm just kidding. 227 00:09:29.159 --> 00:09:30.200 Yeah, good though it is. 228 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:34.159 But you know, he like she's very helpless. She literally 229 00:09:34.480 --> 00:09:36.279 falls down all the time, and he used to keep 230 00:09:36.320 --> 00:09:39.519 swooping in and saving her. And he's like really powerful 231 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:41.559 and really strong, and he keeps saying that he could 232 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:45.360 like kill her or crush her and he wouldn't mean to. 233 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:48.519 It's like the lesson is that if you take out 234 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:50.720 the fact that he's a vampire, he's basically just like 235 00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:54.600 an old man who's like, I can't roll myself around, 236 00:09:54.799 --> 00:09:56.960 so I love you, but I might hurt you and 237 00:09:56.960 --> 00:10:00.320 I'm dangerous for you. And then he's portrayed is like 238 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:03.399 this coveted sex object. 239 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:07.159 Yeah, he also like follows her around waiting for her 240 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:08.240 to get into trouble. 241 00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:11.639 Essentially, he follows her around all day at school. 242 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:13.159 He also watches her sleep. 243 00:10:14.080 --> 00:10:18.240 Yeah, or is that just a movie in her room? 244 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:21.120 That is like a cat file? One on one? 245 00:10:21.759 --> 00:10:24.080 I just feel badhidn't it? I also feel bad because 246 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:27.000 it's like she's never dated anyone, She's never been interested 247 00:10:27.039 --> 00:10:29.360 in anyone. This is her first leve. Come on, this 248 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:31.080 is a bad match for you. 249 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:32.840 You're like, bad match. 250 00:10:32.879 --> 00:10:35.080 You gotta okay, Great, you found out you could be 251 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:38.440 attracted to someone. Maybe look for his qualities and someone else, 252 00:10:38.720 --> 00:10:41.159 you know, that's what maybe one those similar qualities. 253 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:41.960 It's not a vampire. 254 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:44.399 It's very rare to find somebody who will watch you 255 00:10:44.519 --> 00:10:46.559 sleep without your permission. 256 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:48.679 I mean, I wouldn't look for that quality. That would 257 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:50.600 be the quality I would say, don't look for that quality. 258 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:54.039 But maybe, oh, he's really tries to save my life. 259 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:54.559 I don't know. 260 00:10:55.080 --> 00:10:57.720 He saves her from that rape, that gay. 261 00:10:59.039 --> 00:11:02.960 That was boring to me. Her around. I was like, 262 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:06.000 what's going on? Who are these guys? Are they vampires? 263 00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:08.279 They're not. They're just what. 264 00:11:08.200 --> 00:11:11.200 They're just men that are so attracted to her. They 265 00:11:11.240 --> 00:11:14.080 just can't help themselves, Like what losty of men? 266 00:11:14.480 --> 00:11:15.080 Where is she? 267 00:11:15.799 --> 00:11:19.080 Yeah, she wanted to go to that bookstore, which is 268 00:11:19.120 --> 00:11:22.120 a place where she really likes to be alone, and 269 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:24.840 so she abandoned her friends who were dressing shopping for 270 00:11:25.000 --> 00:11:27.240 dresses for the spring dance. 271 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:31.159 Which she's too mature. She's too mature for the dance. 272 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:31.919 She turned down. 273 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:33.399 Lots of people asked her for the dance, and she 274 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:36.120 turned them all down, which sounds to me like the 275 00:11:36.279 --> 00:11:39.879 fantasy writings of a rejected of an adult who had. 276 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:40.960 A very hard time. 277 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:43.840 Because I know who played her in the movie, it 278 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:47.320 did help me in imagining her as like Aid, someone 279 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:51.080 who would be attractive and desirable, because as she's described 280 00:11:51.159 --> 00:11:53.440 in the book, I don't believe it. I don't think 281 00:11:53.440 --> 00:11:56.320 it mattress Kristen Stewart. But I'm like, but I'm glad 282 00:11:56.360 --> 00:11:59.679 they changed it to Christen Stewart because I'm more like, oh, yeah, 283 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:04.679 she's kind of like cool in a my way manic. 284 00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:05.279 Pixie dream girl. 285 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:08.240 Yeah, I agree. I get why she's attractive when you 286 00:12:08.279 --> 00:12:10.799 see Kristen Stewart playing the role, even in the movie, 287 00:12:10.799 --> 00:12:12.799 I don't really get why he is super attractive. 288 00:12:12.879 --> 00:12:14.039 Also, do you guys notice that. 289 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:17.759 His character is constantly laughing in the book, He's like 290 00:12:17.919 --> 00:12:22.799 chuckling like a creepy dolphin, like a creepy all the time. 291 00:12:23.000 --> 00:12:28.159 Every single page is like Edward chuckled. How creepy would 292 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:28.399 that be? 293 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:31.639 I think it's less on the cackle end of the 294 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:36.000 chuckle spectrum and more on the muted giggle end. 295 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:36.960 Is how I imagine it. 296 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:39.279 You know, when you really like somebody and they do 297 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:41.240 something kind of endearing and you kind of like tilt 298 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:44.559 your head down a little bit and you're like, that. 299 00:12:44.559 --> 00:12:46.879 Seems that seemed real condescending. 300 00:12:47.120 --> 00:12:48.519 It's very creepy. 301 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:50.679 I don't like that. Then it's raining and she gets 302 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:53.519 a truck. For some reason, there's like she hates things 303 00:12:53.559 --> 00:12:54.279 that are cold. 304 00:12:54.080 --> 00:12:56.600 And wet at this new school, she's like, I've read 305 00:12:56.639 --> 00:12:58.559 all the books before, and I've done all the science 306 00:12:58.600 --> 00:12:59.639 that they've done before. 307 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:02.240 For so reason, she's some fucking advanced. 308 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:03.799 Genius in a different class. 309 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:04.720 Tha. Oh. 310 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:07.559 At first in school she thinks that Edward hates her, 311 00:13:08.480 --> 00:13:10.840 but it's it is that he can't control himself around her. 312 00:13:10.879 --> 00:13:12.960 And then he makes a real effort and they become 313 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:14.039 biology partners. 314 00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:15.279 Yes, yeah, that's kind of hot. 315 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:19.240 Yeah. And then he'll he'll look into the microscope and 316 00:13:19.279 --> 00:13:23.000 he'll be like, it's this bacteria, and she's like, I'd 317 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:25.759 like to check it, because she's a smart, independent woman. 318 00:13:25.799 --> 00:13:27.840 And then she checks it and she's like, yeah, you're right, 319 00:13:27.840 --> 00:13:30.399 it is that bacteria. And then he says for the 320 00:13:30.399 --> 00:13:32.480 next one, it's this bacteria. Do you want to check it? 321 00:13:32.519 --> 00:13:34.000 And she says nah. 322 00:13:34.159 --> 00:13:34.360 Yeah. 323 00:13:34.399 --> 00:13:37.360 She learns that trust him she doesn't, which is nice. 324 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:38.480 So independent anymore. 325 00:13:38.519 --> 00:13:40.200 Yeah, it's nice to be like I don't have to 326 00:13:40.200 --> 00:13:40.919 think that's nice. 327 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:43.559 Yeah, it's nice. Just take let your mind take a break, 328 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:45.200 Bella for the rest of your life. 329 00:13:45.320 --> 00:13:48.759 Then she's in the parking lot. It's icy out some 330 00:13:49.320 --> 00:13:52.519 regular fucking, dumb, fucking kid who's not even three hundred 331 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:55.919 years old, loses the control of his car on the ice. 332 00:13:56.399 --> 00:13:59.759 It's spinning and spinning and coming right at her a 333 00:13:59.759 --> 00:14:00.600 little skull. 334 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:03.000 Then something happens. 335 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:08.159 She's okay, there's a big accident, but she got pushed 336 00:14:08.159 --> 00:14:08.720 out of the way. 337 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:10.600 How is that possible? 338 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:14.919 Edward was Edward the vampire was so far away from 339 00:14:14.960 --> 00:14:15.639 her at the time. 340 00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:17.879 He must be Superman. 341 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:22.440 He swoops in and stops the van, and she's like, 342 00:14:22.639 --> 00:14:23.440 sometime's up. 343 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:27.600 Yeah. She watches him stop a van with his arms. 344 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:29.480 And she's now pinned to the ground. 345 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:32.360 Under the fact that she thought it was supernatural makes 346 00:14:32.399 --> 00:14:35.039 me think that she's stupid, because it's like there's probably 347 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:39.559 other shock or something. I mean, you can't remember. It's 348 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:40.759 kind of malleable like. 349 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:43.919 But she literally thought he was like or I don't. 350 00:14:44.240 --> 00:14:46.720 Her guess was that he was a Superman type character. 351 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:49.559 H yeah. So I was like, okay, so you figured 352 00:14:49.600 --> 00:14:52.039 it out right away, yep. 353 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:56.480 So that leads to love basically, which is just like 354 00:14:56.519 --> 00:14:58.039 a Stockholm syndrome type thing. 355 00:14:58.080 --> 00:14:59.840 Someone saved your life and you fall in love with him. 356 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:03.919 Stock comes in is when they like kidnap you. 357 00:15:04.480 --> 00:15:06.159 I said, Stockholm type thing. 358 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:10.159 Okay, those are very different. 359 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:12.840 Yeah, that's a good point, thank you, JOHNA not. 360 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:15.440 I think she was saying a good point to me. 361 00:15:17.080 --> 00:15:19.320 So she likes him. And then there's back and forth 362 00:15:19.399 --> 00:15:23.519 of her trying to do you like me? Little conversations. 363 00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:24.399 It's very weird. 364 00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:27.200 And how did you know those men were going to 365 00:15:27.320 --> 00:15:29.279 rape me when I walked into a bad neighborhood? 366 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:31.159 Yeah, and then they go and have this is the 367 00:15:31.159 --> 00:15:33.960 turning point for me when they actually after he saves 368 00:15:34.000 --> 00:15:34.720 her from. 369 00:15:34.600 --> 00:15:36.200 The turning point into boring. 370 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:38.120 Oh to boring for me? Yes, when they had the 371 00:15:38.600 --> 00:15:40.960 really long conversation over dinner. 372 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:44.360 Is that where he tells her about his power. 373 00:15:44.600 --> 00:15:47.879 He tells her about everything, and I'm like, okay, mystery 374 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:51.240 is gone in public, he told her, And it's like, 375 00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:53.559 now we're just not going to struggle with this bell 376 00:15:53.639 --> 00:15:56.879 You're just accepting it. This isn't a struggle for you. Okay, 377 00:15:56.960 --> 00:15:57.399 I'm out. 378 00:15:57.600 --> 00:15:59.159 I don't know if this is how it happens in 379 00:15:59.200 --> 00:16:00.879 the book because I didn't get to this part. But 380 00:16:00.960 --> 00:16:02.840 in the movie, when he's telling her that he can 381 00:16:02.879 --> 00:16:06.759 read everyone's mind but hers, he looks at individual people 382 00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:09.720 and says what they're thinking about at that moment and 383 00:16:09.759 --> 00:16:15.240 he goes money sex, money, sex sex money cats. 384 00:16:16.399 --> 00:16:16.720 That's fun. 385 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:18.799 They don't go to joke in that was not in 386 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:19.080 the book. 387 00:16:19.159 --> 00:16:21.159 That was not in the book. Also, that's the same 388 00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:23.600 thing that happens in True bloods. I'm pretty sure True 389 00:16:23.600 --> 00:16:28.200 Blood was first real big copy. I would say, I can't. 390 00:16:27.960 --> 00:16:30.879 Remember, all right, there's no all right, great, I was 391 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:32.279 gonna say, there's no way to know, but. 392 00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:33.159 There's easy way. 393 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:34.039 I'll say that. 394 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:36.120 I really, I mean, obviously, I like a lot of 395 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:38.559 things about this because I love vampire romances and I 396 00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:42.799 also love why a literature that's my genre. But I 397 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:45.120 really like that they turn all of the things we 398 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:49.519 know about vampires on their head a little bit. And 399 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:52.559 you know, some when I was watching the movie last night, 400 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:55.399 someone was complaining, They're like, this is this is not 401 00:16:55.480 --> 00:16:58.519