WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:03.600 Next on the Drive, Tim McMahon dropping dimes for your 2 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:05.000 NBA Daily assists. 3 00:00:07.360 --> 00:00:15.679 Van McMahon, Van McMahan batted old Land, Texas flood as tickets, 4 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:24.359 mud He's Man, Van McMahon, Van McMahon the man Man. 5 00:00:33.399 --> 00:00:36.799 The Utah Jazz Summer League team back at action tonight, 6 00:00:36.799 --> 00:00:37.280 taking on. 7 00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:40.039 The Memphis Quizz Leaves. The debut of young As. 8 00:00:39.960 --> 00:00:43.280 Bailey happened on Saturday night at the John M. Huntsman Center, 9 00:00:43.920 --> 00:00:46.320 and the Jazz also made a trade today. Our next 10 00:00:46.399 --> 00:00:51.439 guest was in town, And did you lose my cell phone. 11 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:52.320 Or did I just miss the call? 12 00:00:52.399 --> 00:00:54.640 Tim, because I know you never come into town without 13 00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:56.320 asking me to hang out. 14 00:00:56.520 --> 00:00:59.560 Oh no, I don't know. I had it and I 15 00:00:59.679 --> 00:01:01.719 school to it and said, no, I really don't want 16 00:01:01.759 --> 00:01:03.520 to see him. So that was that. 17 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:06.640 Okay, well that's that's really rude. But anyway, how was 18 00:01:06.680 --> 00:01:08.840 your truncated Salt Lake City experience? 19 00:01:09.760 --> 00:01:13.280 It was quick, you know, and late on what was 20 00:01:13.280 --> 00:01:16.200 that Friday, and out very early on Sundays. There wasn't 21 00:01:16.200 --> 00:01:18.680 a whole lot of hanging out, but it was good 22 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:21.040 to see a couple of Summer League games, see a 23 00:01:21.040 --> 00:01:24.079 lot of people at those games. You know, chit chat 24 00:01:24.159 --> 00:01:27.000 with a variety of folks, you know, the Jazz, from 25 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:31.640 the Jazz and some other organizations. And see East Bailey's 26 00:01:31.640 --> 00:01:34.120 debut in the Jazz uniform. Not that it was too 27 00:01:34.159 --> 00:01:36.319 spectacular of a show, but the good news is it 28 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:40.079 was made. And you know, he seems like he is 29 00:01:40.719 --> 00:01:43.680 just fine with being a member of the Utah Jazz. 30 00:01:43.719 --> 00:01:45.959 He's working hard and then you know, we'll see what 31 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:47.159 that hard work produces. 32 00:01:47.400 --> 00:01:50.319 Wonder because look when it comes to Summer League production 33 00:01:50.560 --> 00:01:52.480 and we will talk about the game. It's just like 34 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:54.599 I was a PR intern in ninety seven and watch 35 00:01:54.640 --> 00:01:57.560 Greg Gaster tag out played Tim Duncan. This stuff oftentimes 36 00:01:57.599 --> 00:02:00.480 means nothing, you know, but I want wonder if you 37 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:03.719 could maybe share some of the conversations illuminate us a 38 00:02:03.719 --> 00:02:06.480 little bit as you spoke to people with Utah Jazz 39 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:09.680 about what I perceived to be the noise surrounding whether 40 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:12.560 or not he's originally wanted to be here, or his 41 00:02:12.599 --> 00:02:14.400 reps or whatever. It was, like, can you shed some 42 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:17.280 light on what people in the organization have to say 43 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:19.000 about how the process has been so far. 44 00:02:20.199 --> 00:02:24.039 You know, listen, it was a messy process. I think probably, 45 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:30.120 well not probably certainly unnecessarily so, but again, you know, 46 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:32.800 the Jazz decided to pick him because they had him 47 00:02:33.439 --> 00:02:35.479 number one player on the board at the time. They 48 00:02:35.840 --> 00:02:39.439 really need to be able to take swings at potential 49 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:44.479 stars when they have a chance to do that. I 50 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:47.639 think things could and should have been a lot smoother 51 00:02:48.560 --> 00:02:51.919 in the couple of days after the draft. But he 52 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:54.599 showed up when he was supposed to show up. You know, 53 00:02:54.719 --> 00:02:56.759 he gets off the plane, he wants to get right 54 00:02:56.800 --> 00:02:59.400 to the gym. You know, got to the gym, got 55 00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:02.599 some more kid. Everything I've heard about his approach since 56 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:06.639 he's been there has been positive. You know, the kids 57 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:13.360 working hard. So I think since he's gotten there, they've 58 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:16.520 been pleased with you know, his approach, with what they've 59 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:20.080 seen from him, with his attitude. You know, I think 60 00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:24.199 that this is an eighteen year old kid who the 61 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:28.039 good news is he will listen, and he will listen, 62 00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:32.840 and he will you know, he will do what the 63 00:03:34.039 --> 00:03:36.639 adults in his life thinks the right thing for him 64 00:03:36.639 --> 00:03:40.479 to do. And then we can get into who those 65 00:03:40.520 --> 00:03:42.800 adults are. And you know what, some of that advice 66 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:47.120 has been not great. But I again, I think the 67 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:50.120 good news here is he's going to be a coachable kid. 68 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:53.680 So and that leads us to the debut. 69 00:03:54.080 --> 00:03:57.240 And again like, and I'm sure you have so many 70 00:03:57.240 --> 00:04:00.719 summer league anecdotes about this player who was awesome and 71 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:02.479 didn't turn out to be much in the league, or 72 00:04:02.479 --> 00:04:04.879 this player who struggled and turned out to be incredible 73 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:08.039 in the NBA. So I'm not making too much, nor 74 00:04:08.120 --> 00:04:11.719 would I ever about what you saw for ACEP through 75 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:14.639 your own prism. What were your takeaways? And then in 76 00:04:14.759 --> 00:04:17.399 talking to people, how do you think the organization feel like? 77 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:19.399 It feels like he is holding up so far? 78 00:04:20.480 --> 00:04:22.240 I mean, listen, maybe I'm not going to sit here 79 00:04:22.240 --> 00:04:25.360 and act like there was some kind of job dropping debut. 80 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:30.279 I am going to coption against overreacting to a rough 81 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:33.319 shooting night and a summer league opener. I'll remind you 82 00:04:33.399 --> 00:04:36.839 of the much anticipated Victor Woman Ya'm a Vegas summer 83 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:41.680 league opener when I forgot was his exact shooting line was, 84 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:44.480 but it was worse than three or thirteen. I think 85 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:47.120 that guy's turned out to be a pretty good player 86 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:50.439 for the San Antonio Spurs. But you know, honestly, the 87 00:04:50.519 --> 00:04:52.160 thing that I was getting, like I talked to Will 88 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:54.720 hardy for a little bit, and will you know the 89 00:04:55.120 --> 00:04:57.120 first thing a point and I was, look, you see 90 00:04:57.120 --> 00:04:59.879 the link. You see the athleticism. You see his willingness 91 00:04:59.879 --> 00:05:02.879 to to rebound and rebound traffic. You see his ability 92 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:07.480 to close big distances defensively. Then you know the fact 93 00:05:07.480 --> 00:05:10.040 that he's eager to do that kind of working. His 94 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:13.839 thing was that stuff hasn't talked about enough. Uh, the 95 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:16.319 offense will come. You know, the kids in a new system, 96 00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:19.720 new people around them. You know, four days of tough practices, 97 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:22.800 they're not worried about the three or thirteen. They like 98 00:05:22.879 --> 00:05:26.600 the rest of the stuff that they saw. Now, it 99 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:31.519 was interesting. He was bench or you know where you 100 00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:33.560 can say he was. He was on the bench, whether 101 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:35.959 he want to say bench or not for the bad 102 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:39.360 sjority of crunch time. And I'm not watching him because 103 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:41.439 you know, obviously there's a lot of people who are 104 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:44.600 there to see him. And you know this is he's hyped. 105 00:05:44.639 --> 00:05:46.079 And he was like, you know, supposed to be a 106 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:48.279 pop three pick and DJ Edge comes out there on 107 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:51.040 the other side, you know, getting twenty seven shots up 108 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:55.360 and playing all those clutch minutes for the seventy six 109 00:05:55.399 --> 00:05:57.879 ers with the ball in his hands. Some watching them 110 00:05:57.879 --> 00:06:01.120 like is he can pout? He was standing up Jennifers 111 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:03.720 teammates engaged in the game, and they put him in 112 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:06.439 for the last defense possession and he grabbed the biggest 113 00:06:06.480 --> 00:06:09.360 rebound of the game in traffic. So little things like 114 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:15.160 that I saw to be you know, encouraging signs. You know, 115 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:18.519 I don't I think he's going to score some points 116 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:20.560 in the workie, I don't think it's gonna be very efficient. 117 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:24.240 I think there's gonna be a lot of work to 118 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:27.240 do there. But that's fine. They're hoping through four five, 119 00:06:27.639 --> 00:06:30.480 you know, six eight years from now he can be 120 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:33.319 a primary score on a good team, and there's a 121 00:06:33.319 --> 00:06:36.040 lot of time to grow and develop from now till then. 122 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:42.000 I mean, look, obviously around here we're very intrigued about 123 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:43.199 Ace and these young players. 124 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:45.480 But VJ Edgecomb my goodness. 125 00:06:45.519 --> 00:06:48.240 I mean, I think it was easy to see that 126 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:51.399 athletically he'd belong, but I don't know that I And 127 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:54.000 again we're going to caution everybody. This is one summer 128 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:57.000 league game, but pretty impressive. What your court side, what 129 00:06:57.040 --> 00:06:58.399 were your takeaways watching Edgecumb. 130 00:06:59.600 --> 00:07:02.480 Yeah, it's the first time I've seen him live. I 131 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:05.519 don't watch a much college basketball, just be honest with you. 132 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:09.879 But I had seen him, uh play for the Bahamas 133 00:07:09.959 --> 00:07:14.920 national team Christa Marco, an assistant from the Warriors as 134 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:16.800 the head coach that team and as a buddy of mine, 135 00:07:16.839 --> 00:07:19.639 So I was hoping that they were going to qualify 136 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:22.399 for the Olympics. They came up a win short. But 137 00:07:22.560 --> 00:07:25.120 you know, that's last summer where obviously he's playing against men, 138 00:07:25.480 --> 00:07:29.120 right He's he's playing against pros, some NBA, some overseas. 139 00:07:29.399 --> 00:07:33.079 He's playing on a team that has Eric Gordon, Buddy 140 00:07:33.120 --> 00:07:37.399 heel Deandred and like you know, established NBA players, And 141 00:07:37.439 --> 00:07:39.360 there were times in those games where he was the 142 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:41.240 best player on the floor. There were times in those 143 00:07:41.279 --> 00:07:45.360 games where you know, there is crunch time situations and 144 00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:47.279 he had the ball in his hands. So I wasn't 145 00:07:48.120 --> 00:07:52.360 I wasn't necessarily surprised to see uh, you know, to 146 00:07:52.439 --> 00:07:55.680 see what he did in the first Summer League game. Obviously, 147 00:07:55.680 --> 00:07:58.480 the spacing's much different in the NBA than it is 148 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:01.319 in college, where you know, it was not the best 149 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:03.800 year for him a band it from an efficiency standpoint, 150 00:08:04.560 --> 00:08:09.199 But if you're just talking about athleticism, I mean, he 151 00:08:09.240 --> 00:08:15.639 can Cook. He's got incredible acceleration, obviously unbelievable leap and ability. 152 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:19.560 I mean even by NBA standards, he's an elite athlete. 153 00:08:19.959 --> 00:08:23.360 We'll see if the long range shooting comes along. You 154 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:26.519 know that that's the biggest hole in his game right now. 155 00:08:27.279 --> 00:08:29.519 But man, he can get the spots and he can 156 00:08:29.560 --> 00:08:31.399 he can elevate over people, that's for sure. 157 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:33.840 Jazz also made a draft night move to move up 158 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:36.600 a couple of spots to draft Wall Clayton Junior, who 159 00:08:36.960 --> 00:08:39.200 a lot of people I thought Brad Stevens line was 160 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:41.000 funny when he heard the news. He said, I could 161 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:42.559 have told you Austin was going to trade up for 162 00:08:42.600 --> 00:08:45.919 him two years ago. 163 00:08:44.759 --> 00:08:47.240 Right, you know, same deal one summer league game. 164 00:08:47.799 --> 00:08:50.159 But because you're the guy asked this, because you have 165 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:53.159 the relationships, what are some of the pieces of feedback 166 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:55.679 the organization has early on about this young man while 167 00:08:55.720 --> 00:08:57.840 Clayton Junior, Yeah. 168 00:08:57.720 --> 00:09:02.519 They're they're excited about him, and they're about uh, you know, 169 00:09:02.879 --> 00:09:05.840 his toughness, the fact that he comes in he's an adult, right, 170 00:09:06.360 --> 00:09:09.399 A fat he's a kid. War Clayton Junior comes in, 171 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:12.720 he's an adult. He's a four year guy in college 172 00:09:12.759 --> 00:09:15.960 you know, he won in college and he really his 173 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:20.360 path could not be much more different from Ace Faile. 174 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:22.480 He's in the sense that he wasn't a big time recruit. 175 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:24.320 He went to Siena for a couple of years, came 176 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:26.159 off the benches first year there. It's just, you know, 177 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:30.080 he went through the whole Rick Patino experience of you know, 178 00:09:30.120 --> 00:09:33.600 getting coached for transfer to Florida, helped Florida win a 179 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:37.559 national championship, and obviously, you know they like him. You 180 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:39.480 see what they gave up to move up a few 181 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:43.559 spots to get him, and then the trade for Colin Sexton. 182 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:45.679 I mean, we can sit and scratch our heads as 183 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:48.639 to why the Jazz had to include a second round pick, 184 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:51.720 But the idea there is, hey, they've got three young 185 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:55.360 guards and those guys are going to get the playing 186 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:57.960 time at those spots here. He's going to have a 187 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:01.279 role immediately come in the league and it's going to 188 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:04.039 be very interesting. I wouldn't be shocked if he's starting 189 00:10:04.200 --> 00:10:07.480 sooner than later. I think that's going to be an 190 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:09.559 open competition going to the training camp. 191 00:10:10.360 --> 00:10:12.480 So one of the things that I discussed and you 192 00:10:12.559 --> 00:10:14.720 touched on this a little bit with the answer that 193 00:10:14.759 --> 00:10:17.879 you gave after the question concerning Ace is if you're 194 00:10:17.879 --> 00:10:20.200 a fan of a team, well, hey, it's not great 195 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:22.919 that half your regular rotation is playing in summer League. 196 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:24.320 But we know the deal with the Jazz. 197 00:10:24.559 --> 00:10:26.559 But really what you want him, as you know, are 198 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:30.039 the Bryce center Baz, the Isaiah Colliers, the Kyle Philipowski's, 199 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:35.200 the Cody Williams. The veterans looking like, uh maybe almost 200 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:38.440 they're annoyed to even be there, but showing that they're 201 00:10:38.480 --> 00:10:40.399 willing to step up and be the best players on 202 00:10:40.440 --> 00:10:42.519 the floor. So just give me some quick takeaways from 203 00:10:42.559 --> 00:10:43.840 the Jazz veteran pieces. 204 00:10:44.759 --> 00:10:46.759 Well, none of those guys have done enough to be 205 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:49.240 annoyed to play in summer League. Sure, sure, you know, 206 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:55.639 you know you start there. I want to see flashes 207 00:10:55.639 --> 00:10:58.960 from Cody Williams, and I don't you know, that's just 208 00:10:59.039 --> 00:11:03.080 being realistic there. He was also on the bench during 209 00:11:03.159 --> 00:11:07.720 plunch time the other day against the six Ers. I 210 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:09.399 I can't say that I can send him out to 211 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:14.440 be a great sign since the Bah. Honesty, man, if 212 00:11:14.440 --> 00:11:17.879 you're a third year guy and you're not just dominating 213 00:11:17.879 --> 00:11:21.919 the summer League, I got some concerns there. He was Okay, 214 00:11:24.320 --> 00:11:26.240 most of the fit memories when he threw behind the 215 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:29.759 back path that landed in like the third row where 216 00:11:29.759 --> 00:11:34.480 the seats are elevated there at the Huntsman Center. Yeah know, 217 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:39.440 I'm I don't know, man, I don't know if he's 218 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:41.240 a guy who's going to be able to carve out 219 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:45.159 a solid NBA career, I would say he's still got 220 00:11:45.559 --> 00:11:48.200 a lot of work to do. I think Philipowski was 221 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:50.960 certainly the most impressive of those guys. You know, he 222 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:56.519 definitely has some offensive skill, some offensives ability. I think 223 00:11:56.559 --> 00:12:00.080 that the questionaire is how is he going to be 224 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:02.600 able to hold up defensively? And does he need to 225 00:12:02.639 --> 00:12:04.559 be able to play the five to be able to 226 00:12:05.559 --> 00:12:09.120 have an advantage offensively? But you know, I think he 227 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:13.679 showed enough in that game to add a little bit 228 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:14.240 of intrigue. 229 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:16.639 I would say, all right, and now we move over 230 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:19.720 to the latest trade the Jazz have made, tim and 231 00:12:19.919 --> 00:12:24.080 ultimately my guess is Kevin Love will be bought out. 232 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:27.080 I don't know about Kyle Anderson, but potentially, and maybe 233 00:12:27.080 --> 00:12:29.960 this is just a second round pick, did you get 234 00:12:29.960 --> 00:12:32.559 for John Collins in addition to some financial relief and 235 00:12:32.559 --> 00:12:34.600 Bobby Martch did a great job as he always does 236 00:12:34.600 --> 00:12:37.960 about kind of educating us there. But Clippers Jazz Heat 237 00:12:38.039 --> 00:12:41.039 agrees to a trade where Norman Powell's a Heat, John 238 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:43.720 Collins as a Clipper, and Kevin Love, Kyle Anderson and 239 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:46.480 a Clipper second round pick come the Utah. So unpack 240 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:48.159 this your take on the trade and what do you 241 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:48.879 think comes next? 242 00:12:49.799 --> 00:12:53.600 Well, I think that this really accomplished a few things 243 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:57.440 for the Jazz. Number One, they got worse, Like, let's 244 00:12:57.480 --> 00:13:00.399 just be honest, and that's part of the goal. Going 245 00:13:00.440 --> 00:13:02.840 to tank games. It's just not going to be good, 246 00:13:04.120 --> 00:13:06.399 and they're going to play a lot of young guys 247 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:08.080 in a grown man's league and it's going to be 248 00:13:08.559 --> 00:13:10.559 a tough lead. But you know, you hope to see 249 00:13:10.600 --> 00:13:14.720 some development. But obviously, you know, getting off all of 250 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:18.399 their veteran guys was a priority. So they got worse, 251 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:21.879 they got significantly cheaper, and then they did create a 252 00:13:21.960 --> 00:13:25.960 twenty six point six million dollar trade exception, which you know, 253 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:29.519 that's that's an asset in and of itself. Obviously you've 254 00:13:29.519 --> 00:13:33.399 got a year to use it. I would be surprised 255 00:13:33.399 --> 00:13:38.159 if that's something that they're using, uh during the season, 256 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:40.279 unless you know, I guess you never know, maybe that 257 00:13:40.440 --> 00:13:44.159 maybe there's a situation where there's significant draft capital attached 258 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:46.679 or or whatever the case may be. But you know 259 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:49.039 that that's a tool, that's a roster building tool, and 260 00:13:49.080 --> 00:13:54.039 probably the most significant thing that they got in this trade, 261 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:58.000 aside from you know, again just moving off Collins and 262 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:00.840 open up minutes for young guys and not having to 263 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:05.360 worry about John Collins accidentally winning some games for him 264 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:07.879 like he did last year. You know, Colins sat out 265 00:14:08.080 --> 00:14:11.159 forty two games. Last year, he played forty games. Twelve 266 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:13.960 of their seventeen wins came to Collins on the floor. Yep, 267 00:14:14.919 --> 00:14:18.840 he was He was good last year. He was honest. 268 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:21.679 He was too good for the Jazz And I think 269 00:14:21.720 --> 00:14:25.120 he's a nice little piece for the Clippers. I anticipate 270 00:14:25.120 --> 00:14:29.000 they'll play him a lot with Lopez in their second unit, 271 00:14:29.120 --> 00:14:31.679 and you know, he gives them a you know, he 272 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:34.159 can be a lob guy. He can be a pick 273 00:14:34.159 --> 00:14:37.480 and roll lob guy while Lopez spaces and Lopez obviously 274 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:41.879 can cover up some mccollins deficiency on the defensive ends. 275 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:44.360 I think that's a it's a nice move for the Clippers, 276 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:48.240 given that you know, it was pretty clear that they 277 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:50.559 came to the conclusions they were going to move off of 278 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:54.120 Norman Collins instead of committing to him long term. 279 00:14:55.399 --> 00:14:58.720 So last Jazz thing, then we'll move on. I mean, Tim, 280 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:01.120 as you know last year though, walking line from the 281 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:05.639 front office and Will Hardy himself, they use this moniker 282 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:08.200 over and over. Pups can't raise pups, and that's why 283 00:15:08.240 --> 00:15:10.320 they bring in Patty Mills, and that's why they bring 284 00:15:10.320 --> 00:15:14.159 in Drew you Banks, and they keep Colin Sexted. You know, 285 00:15:14.240 --> 00:15:17.679 Colin Section, Jordan Clarkson and obviously John Collins. Well, pups 286 00:15:17.679 --> 00:15:21.039 are very much raising pups. Now, So big picture, now 287 00:15:21.080 --> 00:15:22.639 that the dust is settled, what do you think this 288 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:25.279 season will look like for Jazz fans here in Soliz. 289 00:15:25.720 --> 00:15:28.440 Well, and you know, we'll see if Kyle Anderson's on 290 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:33.159 the roster. He definitely a bet who has had some 291 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:36.960 real significant experience in the league, is a vocal guy, 292 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:39.639 and you know, I don't know how thrilled he would 293 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:41.440 be to be in next situation. I do think he'd 294 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:45.879 be a good influence on the younger guys on the roster, 295 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:48.519 But I mean, hey, we all understand, like this is 296 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:51.559 not going to be a really fun year for Jazz fans. 297 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:55.080 They need to have another swing high in the lottery 298 00:15:55.600 --> 00:15:58.679 next year, especially with that pick being top eight protected 299 00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:02.919 that they owe Oklahoma City. And you know, I think 300 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:06.360 this year like they're not going to have to try 301 00:16:06.440 --> 00:16:10.159 to lose games, Like look at the Western Conference, it's loaded. 302 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:13.600 It's gonna be a tough year. But I think so 303 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:16.679 that's double take care of itself. And then you're really 304 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:21.399 you're just looking for growth and development and trying to 305 00:16:21.399 --> 00:16:25.000 figure out which of these guys are worth continued to 306 00:16:25.080 --> 00:16:27.639 invest in, and which of these guys, you know, are 307 00:16:27.639 --> 00:16:31.039 you gonna move on from sooner than later. 308 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:34.679 I actually had one more thing for you, Tim, because 309 00:16:34.679 --> 00:16:37.279 you're the one that reported this. Our buddy Andy Larson 310 00:16:37.320 --> 00:16:40.879 followed up on it. And I don't know what Omar 311 00:16:40.960 --> 00:16:43.279 Cooper is. I don't know that he's an agent. I 312 00:16:43.279 --> 00:16:45.000 don't know if he's a friend. I don't know if 313 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:47.799 he's an advisor. But according to what you were able 314 00:16:47.840 --> 00:16:51.679 to uncover, his son, Omar Cooper Junior was hired to 315 00:16:51.720 --> 00:16:54.879 be a guest coach, something that I didn't even know 316 00:16:55.000 --> 00:16:58.080 was a thing, and someone at the League office raised 317 00:16:58.080 --> 00:17:00.519 some concerns and so this young man was has to 318 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:01.919 find something else to do with his time. 319 00:17:01.960 --> 00:17:03.240 Am I understanding this correctly? 320 00:17:05.839 --> 00:17:07.759 Hired is not the word I would use because it 321 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:12.759 was an unpaid position. But he was going to serve 322 00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:17.079 as a guest coach during Summer League, which you know, 323 00:17:17.480 --> 00:17:20.119 I think the League office looked at as a favor 324 00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:25.680 to whatever you want to call Omar Cooper Senior. I'm 325 00:17:25.720 --> 00:17:28.200 not going to refer to him as he refers to himself, 326 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:30.119 I believe as an agent. I'm not going to do 327 00:17:30.160 --> 00:17:33.079 that because my understanding is he does not have his certification, 328 00:17:34.119 --> 00:17:37.079 so he can't be an agent us your certifide, at 329 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:42.400 least an NBA agent. But you know, Omar Cooper Jr. 330 00:17:42.559 --> 00:17:46.279 Just wrapped up his career at McNee State. My understanding 331 00:17:46.319 --> 00:17:48.240 is he's going to be on North Carolina State's coaching 332 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:51.480 staff with Will Wade, the coach who went from McNeice 333 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:55.839 to North Carolina State. You know, But the league officers 334 00:17:55.839 --> 00:17:57.640 looked at this, and I don't know what the exact 335 00:17:57.680 --> 00:18:00.559 conversation was, but basically said, hey, this is no fishy, 336 00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:03.480 it looks funny. We'd rather you not do this. And 337 00:18:03.799 --> 00:18:10.880 the Jazz designed to, you know, call off the plan fair. 338 00:18:10.839 --> 00:18:13.519 Enough, fair enough, all right, big picture style as we 339 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:16.000 you know, look, it's still only July. 340 00:18:16.200 --> 00:18:17.480 Plenty of movement could happen. 341 00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:20.240 I don't think Donovan was traded until September or something, 342 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:22.759 maybe late August. So I'm not saying it's done done, 343 00:18:23.240 --> 00:18:25.480 but it feels like most of the major moves have 344 00:18:25.680 --> 00:18:29.000 been completed. So the landscape of the Western Conference tim 345 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:30.799 and will end on this before set you loose. It 346 00:18:31.000 --> 00:18:34.279 still clearly is Oklahoma City, but a lot of teams 347 00:18:34.319 --> 00:18:35.680 are going to be a lot better. 348 00:18:35.799 --> 00:18:37.680 I think Dallas is intriguing Denver. 349 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:39.799 You know, I could keep going, but who do you 350 00:18:39.799 --> 00:18:42.920 think really has improved and can at least exist in 351 00:18:42.960 --> 00:18:45.240 the space where Oklahoma City clearly still is the team 352 00:18:45.279 --> 00:18:47.680 that's going to be expected to dominate once again. 353 00:18:48.920 --> 00:18:51.240 I don't think there's any question that the Rockets of 354 00:18:51.359 --> 00:18:55.079 the team that's really in terms of containders, has improved 355 00:18:55.079 --> 00:18:57.920 the most this offseason. And then they had a glaring 356 00:18:58.039 --> 00:19:00.759 void for a go to guy to bring in Kevin Durant, 357 00:19:01.039 --> 00:19:03.319 who at his age is still one of the best 358 00:19:03.319 --> 00:19:05.920 scores in the league. You know, they bring in during 359 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:09.559 Finnish Smith to kind of replace Dyllan Brooks is a 360 00:19:09.599 --> 00:19:14.200 tough better three, not quite as good the guy Capella. 361 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:16.720 Just to beef up there. Their center rotation. They want 362 00:19:16.759 --> 00:19:19.720 to play dual bigs a lot. They're big, they're tough, 363 00:19:19.960 --> 00:19:22.920 they're nasty, they're physical, they rebound the all out the ball, 364 00:19:23.240 --> 00:19:24.640 and now they've got a guy they can give it 365 00:19:24.680 --> 00:19:27.279 to when they really need a bucket. To me, they 366 00:19:27.319 --> 00:19:32.359 are the toughest challenger Dallas. You know, I'm not going 367 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:34.160 to sit here and predict whether Kyrie is going to 368 00:19:34.200 --> 00:19:37.400 be able to be himself when he wins and if 369 00:19:37.400 --> 00:19:40.119 he comes back this season, obviously, if he can do that, 370 00:19:40.720 --> 00:19:43.599 they've got a chance to be a real threat. I 371 00:19:43.640 --> 00:19:46.079 do believe Valentiunis is going to play for the Nuggets 372 00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:48.000 this season despite all this stuff going on with the 373 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:53.039 Greek team. I think Denver, with him bringing Bruce Brown back, 374 00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:56.319 signing Tim Mardaway junior, they've got the best bench they've 375 00:19:56.319 --> 00:19:58.319 had in the Joker era. That makes them a threat. 376 00:19:58.319 --> 00:20:01.519 I also really like Cam Johnson as a as a 377 00:20:01.559 --> 00:20:05.559 piece there, and I'll tell you look out for the Clippers, 378 00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:08.440 like don't don't write the Clippers off. They pushed the 379 00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:12.440 Nuggets to seven games in the first round. Kawhi is 380 00:20:12.519 --> 00:20:15.680 healthy now. Uh. You know, James Harden proved that that 381 00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:19.839 he can still be a driving force and winning last year. 382 00:20:21.240 --> 00:20:24.640 I kind of the way the wind is blowing. I 383 00:20:24.799 --> 00:20:27.799 think Prady Dealer's up there after his buyout. That's not 384 00:20:27.880 --> 00:20:30.920 a done deal, but that would be my best guess 385 00:20:31.359 --> 00:20:33.680 at this point. And you know, and if he's a 386 00:20:34.440 --> 00:20:39.000 fourth option on a bargain deal, bucket getter, third fourth option, 387 00:20:39.160 --> 00:20:41.880 you know, he's a pretty good player. They're bringing Brook 388 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:45.440 Lopez like a good defense got better with him backing 389 00:20:45.519 --> 00:20:50.279 up Zubos. I think the Clippers are quiet, like quietly. 390 00:20:50.319 --> 00:20:53.680 I think the Clippers are one of the teams that 391 00:20:54.119 --> 00:20:57.200 needs to be considered as a real challenger to Okay, see, let. 392 00:20:57.119 --> 00:20:58.920 Me take advantage of this real quick and ask you 393 00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:01.119 what you're hearing that the future may hold for one 394 00:21:01.160 --> 00:21:04.440 of our local legends, Dame Lillard. A lot of conversations. 395 00:21:04.799 --> 00:21:07.119 Apparently he's going to rehab home in Portland. But are 396 00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:10.519 you hearing is he interested in going home or talking 397 00:21:10.519 --> 00:21:11.640 Warriors stocking Lakers? 398 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:13.000 What do you think the future holds for Dan? 399 00:21:14.039 --> 00:21:16.759 You know what I anticipate happening there is that he's 400 00:21:16.799 --> 00:21:19.200 going to rehab at home for a while and then 401 00:21:19.960 --> 00:21:22.359