Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
Speaker 1: AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app. Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban's house
Speaker 1: was the latest high profile home to be targeted by burglars.
Speaker 1: The LAPD says officers responded to a burglary report about
Speaker 1: eight o'clock Friday night on Lime Orchard Road over technically,
Speaker 1: I think this is Beverly Hills. Officers learned from a
Speaker 1: security guard that a burglar had smashed the glass door
Speaker 1: of the house, ransacked the house, and took off. It's
Speaker 1: not clear, at least not yet if he took anything
Speaker 1: at the time. We're actually going to be talking with
Speaker 1: LAPD Chief Jim McDonald coming up at the bottom of
Speaker 1: this hour and talk more about some of those high
Speaker 1: profile things and what the LAPD can do, if anything,
Speaker 1: to protect to protect homes there. We've seen quite a
Speaker 1: little bit of conundrum maybe between LA Mayor Karen Bass
Speaker 1: and LA County Supervisor Lindsay Horvath. Go back to January
Speaker 1: twenty first, if you will, the Palisades fire only partially contained.
Speaker 1: There were new fires that were going to erupt. January
Speaker 1: twenty second, I believe, is when the Castag fire, the
Speaker 1: Hughes fire broke out, and Karen Bass is still wobbling
Speaker 1: and wobbling simply because her first few days on the
Speaker 1: fire were week at best in terms of the response
Speaker 1: of the leadership, etc. City and county officials were doing
Speaker 1: these daily news conferences every day LA Unified or whatever
Speaker 1: the term they were using for their eight o'clock news
Speaker 1: conferences until that morning because Mayor Bass went to the
Speaker 1: reporters and did so without anybody from the county, I mean,
Speaker 1: the two most common faces that we saw from the
Speaker 1: county Supervisor Catherine Barger and Supervisor Lindsay Horvath, So behind
Speaker 1: closed doors, they were a little bit of a little
Speaker 1: bit of contention maybe between two of arguably the most
Speaker 1: powerful politicians in LA. Lengthy text message that Lindsay Horvath
Speaker 1: sends Karen Bass. This almost feels dirty seeing their seeing
Speaker 1: their text messages. And by the way, these all come
Speaker 1: from text messages and other correspondents that are available through
Speaker 1: public records requests in this case the LA Times. So
Speaker 1: Lindsay Horvath, supervisor whose district covers the Pacific Palisades, to
Speaker 1: Karen Bass, you asked us to lay off the daily pressers.
Speaker 2: We did.
Speaker 1: We asked you to join us for this announce tomorrow.
Speaker 1: No response. Now we hear you're doing one without us
Speaker 1: today when we are in lead role at your department's request.
Speaker 1: Doesn't feel very locked arms to me, of course, locked
Speaker 1: arms is this slogan that Karen Bass kept talking about
Speaker 1: over and over again in terms of we're all going
Speaker 1: to work together to rebuild. So Karen Bass responds five
Speaker 1: hours later, says she's not even sure what announcement that
Speaker 1: Lindsay Horvath was referring to. When they should sit down
Speaker 1: later in the afternoon and talk about it by contract. Now, listen,
Speaker 1: Lindsay Horvath and all of the county supervisors right now,
Speaker 1: they represent about two million people a piece, and you
Speaker 1: could argue that's more powerful, at least in sheer number
Speaker 1: of constituents, more powerful than a member of Congress. Members
Speaker 1: of Congress represent each district is seven hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: thousand ish people. And again five board, sorry, five supervisors
Speaker 1: on the county board, each of them represent about two
Speaker 1: million people, and in her case, Lindsay Horvath's district stretches
Speaker 1: from Malibu and Santa Monica into West Hollywood North through
Speaker 1: a lot of the San Fernando Valley, but it does
Speaker 1: include the entire burn area in the Pacific Palisades. By contrast,
Speaker 1: Karen Bass obviously the most visible politician in all of
Speaker 1: La County, responsible for about four million people. So this
Speaker 1: January twenty first back and forth about Hey, why'd you
Speaker 1: cut us out of these news conferences? I thought we
Speaker 1: were doing this together. It doesn't feel very locked arms,
Speaker 1: hardly a one off. When asked about the text messages
Speaker 1: and the relationship, Karen Bass was very careful. She praised
Speaker 1: Lindsay Horvath, said they're very unified in their mission. She
Speaker 1: said in a statement, Supervisor Horvath has been a tremendous partner.
Speaker 1: She and I continue to work together to make sure
Speaker 1: the Palisades can rebuild as quickly and safely as possible.
Speaker 1: But when you ask Lindsay Horvath about it, a little
Speaker 1: bit less less in love with Karen Bass than Karen Bass,
Speaker 1: at least as saying she is with Lindsay Horvath.
Speaker 2: We'll talk more about this.
Speaker 1: I'll explain Lindsay Horvath's response to all of this, and
Speaker 1: again at the bottom of the hour, LAPD Chief Jim
Speaker 1: McDonald is going to join us, asking questions about the
Speaker 1: continued operations when it comes to fire response in the Palisades,
Speaker 1: what's going on in terms of the celebrity burglaries, and
Speaker 1: the potential for LAPD to either get involved or not
Speaker 1: get involved with the federal immigration rates that have been
Speaker 1: talked about that's coming up at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1: We're talking about this back and forth between LA Mayor
Speaker 1: Karen Bass and LA County Supervisor Lindsay Horvath, specifically about
Speaker 1: the county getting bounced out of some of those post
Speaker 1: fire news conferences just a couple of weeks after the
Speaker 1: fire itself, in fact, to the two week mark, and
Speaker 1: Lindsay Horvath says doesn't feel very locked arms to me.
Speaker 2: Now that was January.
Speaker 1: In November, these two kind of went at it because
Speaker 1: Lindsay Horvath went public with a proposal that would have
Speaker 1: shrunk the duties of LASA, the LA Homeless Services Authority,
Speaker 1: and she was calling for hundreds of millions of dollars
Speaker 1: to be shifted out of the agency and into the
Speaker 1: county department that's focused on homelessness. Karen Bass said, no,
Speaker 1: that's not a good idea, because all you're doing is
Speaker 1: creating a new bureaucracy, and that didn't.
Speaker 2: Go very well.
Speaker 1: Now, all of this is echoed by the fact that
Speaker 1: Governor Newsom once said that his team at the state
Speaker 1: level wasn't getting straight answers from local leaders about some
Speaker 1: of the fire conditions on the ground and the things
Speaker 1: that the city and county were doing to get people
Speaker 1: back up and running in Palisades and in Alta. Dina Aaron.
Speaker 1: Bass has also had some issues with Tracy Park, who
Speaker 1: was a city council member who represents the Palisades and
Speaker 1: her own Steve Sobroff handpicked chief recovery officer in all
Speaker 1: of that. Now, some of this came to a head
Speaker 1: back on the thirty first of January. If you remember,
Speaker 1: this would have been ten days after Lindsay Horvat says
Speaker 1: you doesn't feel very locked arms to me. There was
Speaker 1: a zoom meeting and Karen Bass comes out and says
Speaker 1: that the Palisades was going to reopen to the public Sunday.
Speaker 1: This would have been Friday night that she said it
Speaker 1: was happening Sunday. Well, Steve Sobroff was one of the
Speaker 1: people who criticized her and said it's probably too early
Speaker 1: to do that. Tracy Park again representing the city that
Speaker 1: district represents, but she represents the Palisades. She said it
Speaker 1: was too soon for the neighborhood to reopen. So Palisades
Speaker 1: residents get upset with Mayor Bass and hours before they're
Speaker 1: set to reopened, she reverses course, and she says, okay,
Speaker 1: So the checkpoints that block off the area to almost
Speaker 1: everyone except residents would stay in place. All of this
Speaker 1: catches everybody flat footed. Mayor's the decision to reopen catches
Speaker 1: everybody flat footed. Her aids don't inform Lindsay Horvath of
Speaker 1: the reversal until after they put out a press release
Speaker 1: announcing such a thing. Then it got into the assistant level.
Speaker 1: You've got a spokesperson for the supervisor talking to a
Speaker 1: spokesperson for the mayor, and they know that their bosses
Speaker 1: aren't on the same page, and they start getting chippy
Speaker 1: with each other, saying that this is problematic, saying why
Speaker 1: did you call the mayor of Malibu and not the county.
Speaker 1: The Malibu obviously is its own separate city from La
Speaker 1: so it doesn't work the way palisades do, and sending
Speaker 1: a press release is not coordination. What you have done
Speaker 1: is create more chaos and less chaos. And then finally,
Speaker 1: Lindsay Horvath goes directly to Mayor Bass at ten o'clock
Speaker 1: at night and says, is there a reason your staff
Speaker 1: called Malibu officials without calling me or the sheriff. And again,
Speaker 1: this is a decision to partially reopen pch and the
Speaker 1: pala Shads. We are working within protocol and they are
Speaker 1: not your jurisdiction. Sheriff has been working with Chief McDonnell,
Speaker 1: and you pull the rug on the coordinated plan. I
Speaker 1: reach out to you to no avail. Even you and
Speaker 1: Tracy Park don't seem to me on the same page.
Speaker 1: No love lost between Lindsay Horvath and Mayor Bass of la.
Speaker 1: If we get into what you watch on Wednesday late
Speaker 1: in the show, I'd love to hear what it is
Speaker 1: that you are watching. My wife and I are several
Speaker 1: episodes into The Pit right now, which is a hospital
Speaker 1: drama that, according to a lot of doctors and nurses,
Speaker 1: is very very realistic.
Speaker 2: So we'll talk about that a bunch of other shit.
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Speaker 1: to follow. The US Special Envoy to the Ukraine to
Speaker 1: Ukraine was war retired General sorry Keith Kellogg, arrived in
Speaker 1: Kiev this morning for a continuation of talks with President Zelensky.
Speaker 1: Kellogg told reporters that he intends to make his three
Speaker 1: day visit to learn of Kiev's views on ending Russia's war.
Speaker 1: With Russia's war on Ukraine, he says, we're going to listen.
Speaker 1: We understand the need for security guarantees and of course
Speaker 1: the sovereignty of this nation and the defense of this
Speaker 1: nation as well. And the risk that they asteroid called
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, why are for is going to crash
Speaker 1: into earth has increased.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that a little bit later.
Speaker 1: We're going to start our conversations with LAPD's new chief,
Speaker 1: Jim McDonald sworn and back on November eighth, hopefully on
Speaker 1: a regular basis. So Chief, first of all, thanks for
Speaker 1: taking time for us today.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Gary, thanks for having me on. I appreciate
Speaker 3: the opportunity.
Speaker 1: All Right, you're at one hundred and three days in
Speaker 1: to your tenure as chief of the LAPD. Let's take
Speaker 1: a look back and give yourself a report card on
Speaker 1: how you've done for one hundred days.
Speaker 3: You know, I feel like we've done pretty good as
Speaker 3: a team. None of this is any individual effort, but
Speaker 3: a giant team effort. And when I look at the
Speaker 3: time we've had together here and the challenges that we
Speaker 3: face between the fires, the events we've had building up
Speaker 3: to the Academy Woods, We've had the Grammys, we had
Speaker 3: the worst fire in LA's history, big effort in supporting
Speaker 3: the fire department, working with our partners on that, and
Speaker 3: then we had the floods, the mud slides, and then
Speaker 3: dealing with the protests, the immigration protests has been very
Speaker 3: challenging on our deployment, but everybody has been pulling together.
Speaker 3: Look at out of this tragedy, I think we've become
Speaker 3: stronger as a department, but also stronger as a city
Speaker 3: in a region.
Speaker 1: Well, we all saw law enforcement play a huge role
Speaker 1: in the aftermath of the fires, and since LAPD patrols Palisades.
Speaker 1: We'll talk specifically about that. What is the ongoing mission
Speaker 1: is what is left for the LAPD to do when
Speaker 1: it comes to Palisades recovery, keeping law and order there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's we're down from we had six
Speaker 3: to nine hundred officers a day assisting in our efforts,
Speaker 3: and they're focused mainly on evacuation on the initial stages
Speaker 3: and then getting ready for any subsequent evacuations due to
Speaker 3: flooding or mudslides or slippage, but then also traffic control
Speaker 3: and crime suppression, traffic control allowing ingress and egress to
Speaker 3: the affected areas. That was something that was very challenging
Speaker 3: because people certainly want to get back in to be
Speaker 3: able to see their property, to see in some cases
Speaker 3: what's left of it, or to try and figure out
Speaker 3: what they need to go for next steps. Very emotional.
Speaker 3: But then also from a public safety standpoint, you've got
Speaker 3: a very toxic area there with a lot of you know,
Speaker 3: danger involved, and initially with down power lines, with open
Speaker 3: gas lines, with broken water mains, as well as when
Speaker 3: you know the materials in modern housing, they're very safe
Speaker 3: until they burn and then they become toxic. That coupled
Speaker 3: with the challenges of how many people have electric cars,
Speaker 3: you know, Teslas or others, and the lithium ion batteries
Speaker 3: in those cars and as well as in the garages
Speaker 3: on the power wall that they charge the car with.
Speaker 3: Those are all as well lithium ion batteries, which when heated,
Speaker 3: become unstable and are potentially explosive. Those had to be
Speaker 3: updated before we could safely let people in the area. Thankfully,
Speaker 3: the EPA played a significant role in that, in removing
Speaker 3: and neutralizing them and then disposing of them. But it's
Speaker 3: kind of one thing after another, and the more technology
Speaker 3: improves and makes our lives easier, it provides also additional
Speaker 3: challenges for us and what happens to those materials of
Speaker 3: that technology when it's under unusual conditions, And certainly this
Speaker 3: was very unusual.
Speaker 1: I know it's a consistent practice for law enforcement agencies,
Speaker 1: the LAPD specifically to look back at events like that
Speaker 1: and sort of do a post mortem. Are we too,
Speaker 1: Is it too early to do a post mortem on
Speaker 1: that and see what could be improved, what was done?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you know, it's probably too early to do
Speaker 3: anything formal, but I think everybody who is out there,
Speaker 3: and the benefit we get is from the collective wisdom
Speaker 3: of people who looked at this from different perspectives. But
Speaker 3: some of the things that we could look at, I
Speaker 3: think for any kind of future event like this, certainly
Speaker 3: our deployment, you know, the question of pre staging critical
Speaker 3: resources in an area when you have you know, winds
Speaker 3: predicted or things. Those are those are front of mine
Speaker 3: things for people, but they also come with challenges because
Speaker 3: you have limited resources. When you pre stage them and
Speaker 3: it happened somewhere else, then you're not where you could
Speaker 3: have been or quickly respond able to respond to those areas.
Speaker 3: But I also look then at the type of conditions
Speaker 3: that our people worked in and people, when I say
Speaker 3: are people not only our department, but everybody who was
Speaker 3: the first respond to everybody who was out there, uh,
Speaker 3: and just the air quality and the type of things
Speaker 3: that people were exposed to without really knowing it. You
Speaker 3: went out there to do the job you could do
Speaker 3: to help save lives and protect property, but there was
Speaker 3: an awful lot of unknown substances in the air during
Speaker 3: that period, burnt particulate, and my concern was are we
Speaker 3: preparing our people and equipping them well enough to be
Speaker 3: able to deal with potentially what we'll find down the
Speaker 3: road was a health challenge.
Speaker 1: Can you talk about some of these headlines when it
Speaker 1: comes to international crime rings. We saw another high profile
Speaker 1: robbery I believe it was Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban's
Speaker 1: house in a gated community. Is that being blown out
Speaker 1: of proportion or is that a big concern for LAPD.
Speaker 3: You know, I've heard, you know, a lot of people
Speaker 3: talk about celebrities, sports stars their properties being burglarized, and
Speaker 3: I don't know that we could attribute it to their
Speaker 3: celebrity status, but rather they live in affluent areas which
Speaker 3: are being targeted by these type of criminal enterprises. We
Speaker 3: do have those that come in from other countries for
Speaker 3: the sole purpose of engaging in this kind of activity.
Speaker 3: South American crime gangs have been pretty prolific here in
Speaker 3: the last couple of years, particularly as it involves burglaries
Speaker 3: of affluent areas. We work those. We have people dedicated
Speaker 3: to work in gathering intelligence on those individuals in the ring,
Speaker 3: and we've made a significant number of arrests to disrupt
Speaker 3: some of that activity, but they are then backfilled by
Speaker 3: others who come in and keep going The level of
Speaker 3: sophistication we've seen from these groups is unlike we've seen before.
Speaker 3: They come in with jammers. They can jam your your
Speaker 3: system if you have wireless cameras, wireless alarm systems, so
Speaker 3: they shut those down. And then they go in after
Speaker 3: they've done surveillance of your house without probably you being
Speaker 3: aware of that by leaving a car across the street
Speaker 3: with cameras in it, or implanting cameras and your flower
Speaker 3: better your neighbor's flower bed, to get a pattern of
Speaker 3: life when you're going to be home, when you're not
Speaker 3: to know what you're going to do. And then when
Speaker 3: they get there, they check the house and they go
Speaker 3: in the back, usually break a rear slider, go in there,
Speaker 3: in there for a very limited duration, and then they're
Speaker 3: out and off, and then they pool their their where
Speaker 3: they're stolen property in a very organized fashion into a
Speaker 3: warehouse where it's distributed or sold from there. So these
Speaker 3: are transnational criminal enterprises that in this case specialize in
Speaker 3: this type of activity, and we've seen it not only
Speaker 3: in Los Angeles and southern California, but in various areas
Speaker 3: throughout the nation.
Speaker 1: We're talking with LAPD Chief Jim McDonald now one hundred
Speaker 1: and three days on the job as chief, of course,
Speaker 1: spent time years as chief of Long Beach PD and
Speaker 1: then years as La County Sheriff. Just about every kind
Speaker 1: of job you could have in law enforcement is what
Speaker 1: Chief McDonald has had. Let's talk about Special Order forty
Speaker 1: and what's going on with federal immigration rates. Now, back
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine, Special Order forty was adopted under
Speaker 1: then Chief Daryl Gates, and it prevented officers from initiating
Speaker 1: contact to figure out if somebody was in the country illegally.
Speaker 1: But it did say if after all a said and done,
Speaker 1: someone was in the country illegally, it was going to
Speaker 1: go up to the chain, up the chain to supervisors.
Speaker 1: Supervisors in the department would then notify federal authorities. Has
Speaker 1: has that changed at all since nineteen seventy nine?
Speaker 3: And if so, how yeah, No, it's we're basically you
Speaker 3: have adopted that policy and that has been our guiding
Speaker 3: principle since nineteen seventy nine. We so for my career,
Speaker 3: which goes back to nineteen eighty one, we have never
Speaker 3: stopped anybody for the purpose of finding out their immigration
Speaker 3: status or any portion of their involvement with the criminal
Speaker 3: justice system. While in LAPD custody does not involve their
Speaker 3: immigration status. We don't ask about that, and that's not
Speaker 3: part of what we do. We're enforcing criminal laws in
Speaker 3: Los Angeles and trying to be able to maintain see
Speaker 3: maintain the trust of those who we serve, and we
Speaker 3: found that if we were to enter into that realm
Speaker 3: where we're in forcing civil immigration of law, then we
Speaker 3: would lose the trust of much of our community and
Speaker 3: ultimately the community would be less safe overall. So we're
Speaker 3: committed to the principle of Special Order forty. There are
Speaker 3: other laws that have come along more recently, the California
Speaker 3: Trust Act and the California Values Act, which have basically
Speaker 3: put into law what we've been doing for almost forty
Speaker 3: five years.
Speaker 2: LAPD currently has.
Speaker 1: I think you put the number at about eighty eight
Speaker 1: hundred sworn officers. How many is the right number? How
Speaker 1: many would you like to see if you had the
Speaker 1: power and an unlimited budget.
Speaker 3: I mean, in an ideal world, I'd love to see
Speaker 3: us at twelve five hundred or thereabouts. I think that
Speaker 3: given that we could deploy resources where they need to
Speaker 3: be when they need to be and to be able
Speaker 3: to do all of the things that we are stretching
Speaker 3: ourselves to do. Now. You look at the challenges we
Speaker 3: face as we move forward, just worth regard alone to
Speaker 3: cyber fraud, cyber terrorism, all of the threats that we'll
Speaker 3: see that involved that. The Internet has been a great
Speaker 3: boon for our society, but has also provided challenges for
Speaker 3: public safety with online scams of every type where people
Speaker 3: are being ripped off for you know, for their life
Speaker 3: savings in some cases, elder abuse, you know, the internet
Speaker 3: exploitation of children. There's so much more we'd like to
Speaker 3: do if we had enough resources to do that, but
Speaker 3: we do the very best we can with what we have. Now.
Speaker 3: We try and be as judicious as we can be
Speaker 3: and to continue to prioritize our resources to address the
Speaker 3: threats of the day.
Speaker 1: What is the biggest speed bump to that. Is it
Speaker 1: just funding or is it recruiting?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is right now. It is primarily recruiting. Being
Speaker 3: able to have enough people interested in making this their
Speaker 3: profession coming into the process and then being able to
Speaker 3: process them rapidly enough so we don't lose them to
Speaker 3: other departments. That has been a challenge for us in
Speaker 3: Los Angeles. Here, we're working with the mayor, We're working
Speaker 3: closely with the Personnel Department, another city department who does
Speaker 3: much of that work, to be able to move this
Speaker 3: forward in a way where we're able to fill classes
Speaker 3: of sixty each month, which is a good capacity for us. Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: we've been at about a third of that for the
Speaker 3: last several years, which really doesn't match our attrition rates.
Speaker 3: So we continue to move forward and every chance I
Speaker 3: get to try and recruit people and share with them
Speaker 3: that you know that you have a tremendous opportunity to
Speaker 3: be able to make a difference, to be able to
Speaker 3: change our city for the better by becoming a Los
Speaker 3: Angeles police officer. The opportunities are great, and at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, you're able to say that maybe
Speaker 3: you made someone's worst day of their life a little
Speaker 3: bit more manageable.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's amazing that even in this side of
Speaker 1: the business, where we talk about law enforcement a lot,
Speaker 1: we don't talk enough about the positives. I mean that
Speaker 1: just the LAPED alone, thousands and thousands of contacts with
Speaker 1: people in Los Angeles every single day. The vast majority
Speaker 1: of them go unheard of, unspoken of, and probably some
Speaker 1: of them are at times funny, some of them are positive,
Speaker 1: some of them are life saving, and we just don't
Speaker 1: we don't spend enough time talking about those contacts.
Speaker 3: Now, thank you for bringing that up. And you're exactly right.
Speaker 3: When things go right, we just go on to the
Speaker 3: next call and go about our business, and you know,
Speaker 3: there's no celebration, there's no comments being made or anything.
Speaker 3: And it's the rare exception that get all the attention.
Speaker 3: And what we do is critical enough in our society
Speaker 3: that we hold our people to very high standards and
Speaker 3: hold them accountable, but also that we have to be
Speaker 3: reasonable with our people. That nobody calls the police when
Speaker 3: they're having a good day. They call them when things
Speaker 3: are upside down. It's chaotic, there's emotion involved, off and
Speaker 3: alcoholic drugs are also involved in the situation. So we
Speaker 3: insert our people into the most challenging problems that society
Speaker 3: can pose, and we have an expectation they're going to
Speaker 3: be right one hundred percent of the time. And I
Speaker 3: don't think we hold any other profession in our society
Speaker 3: to those kind of standards.
Speaker 1: I've always had a question for the chief of police,
Speaker 1: whether it's you or anybody else who had the position
Speaker 1: before you. When do you wear your uniform and when
Speaker 1: do you wear a tie?
Speaker 3: Thank you? Yeah, I wear a tie all the time.
Speaker 3: When I wear my uniform, I wear a full class
Speaker 3: a because I representing the men and women of this
Speaker 3: organization and I want to do it to the best
Speaker 3: of my ability. Whether I wear a uniform or a
Speaker 3: suit depends on what I've got going for the day.
Speaker 3: So if there's situations where it's ceremonial or more formal
Speaker 3: from a policing standpoint, I'll wear the uniform, and other
Speaker 3: days I may wear a suit. But I'm proud to
Speaker 3: wear this uniform. I think it's probably the nicest uniform,
Speaker 3: if you will, or the most professional uniform. It's relatively
Speaker 3: unadorned and plain, if you will, but also, you know, plain,
Speaker 3: professional looking and easily recognizable.
Speaker 1: Well, the stars on the collar are pretty recognizable too.
Speaker 1: Chief Listen. Thanks, I appreciate you taking time for us today.
Speaker 1: We know you're a busy guy. We'd love to be
Speaker 1: able to continue the conversation in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, how is it, Brian Solo?
Speaker 1: It can be tiring. I'll tell you that that ride
Speaker 1: home gets pretty quiet.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: My wife has to pay me to say words after
Speaker 1: about two pm, so I can imagine.
Speaker 3: I can't imagine. Well, thank you for what you do. Gary,
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Chief, We greatly appreciate it. Thanks for your service.
Speaker 1: We'll talk again, I promise, Okay, LAPD Chief Jim McDonald again.
Speaker 1: As he mentioned, he's been a law enforcement officer since
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one, every type of job. And we'll continue
Speaker 1: our conversations with Chief McDonald sometime next month.
Speaker 2: We'll pick it back up. All right, up next swamp.
Speaker 1: Watch what's going on between the United States, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Ukraine.
Speaker 1: Everybody's in it now and they're throwing some insults back
Speaker 1: and forth.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that when we come back.
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