WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:02.759 It's amazing how the Trump administration is going to try 2 00:00:02.799 --> 00:00:06.120 to save California from itself. Whre's a piece from cal 3 00:00:06.240 --> 00:00:12.359 Matters by Alejandro Lazo. California has decided to abandon its 4 00:00:12.519 --> 00:00:18.000 groundbreaking regulations phasing out diesel trucks and requiring cleaner out 5 00:00:18.239 --> 00:00:22.480 locomotives because the incoming Trump administration is unlikely to allow 6 00:00:22.519 --> 00:00:26.160 the state to implement them. State officials have long considered 7 00:00:26.199 --> 00:00:33.240 the rules regulating diesel vehicles essential essential to cleaning up 8 00:00:33.280 --> 00:00:38.600 California's severe air pollution and combating climate change. The withdrawal 9 00:00:38.640 --> 00:00:41.399 comes after the Biden administration recently approved the California Air 10 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:46.159 Resources Boards mandate phasing out new gas powered cars by 11 00:00:46.159 --> 00:00:49.200 twenty thirty five, but had not yet approved other waivers 12 00:00:49.240 --> 00:00:52.320 for four diesel vehicle standards that the state has adopted. 13 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:56.159 President elect Donald Trump has threatened to revoke or challenge 14 00:00:56.200 --> 00:01:01.840 all zero emissions vehicle rules and California's other clean air standards. 15 00:01:02.320 --> 00:01:05.920 By withdrawing its requests for US Environmental Protection Agency approval, 16 00:01:05.920 --> 00:01:11.079 the Newsome administration is signaling a dramatic step back as 17 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:14.680 the state recalibrates in anticipation of the new Trump era. 18 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:21.799 California has withdrawn its pending waiver and authorization requests that 19 00:01:21.920 --> 00:01:24.599 us EPA has not yet acted on. Air Resources Board 20 00:01:24.680 --> 00:01:28.519 chair Leanne Randolph said in a statement, while we are 21 00:01:28.560 --> 00:01:31.680 disappointed that us EPA was unable to act on all 22 00:01:31.719 --> 00:01:34.239 the requests in time, the withdrawal is an important step 23 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:37.319 given the uncertainty presented by the incoming administration that previously 24 00:01:37.359 --> 00:01:41.599 attacked California's programs to protect public health and the climate 25 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:47.280 and has said we'll continue to oppose those programs. Environmentalists 26 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:51.599 were distressed, saying it puts communities at risks, at risk. Yes, 27 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:55.359 our environment. We are so afraid of these at risk 28 00:01:55.439 --> 00:02:00.280 communities as Los Angeles is burning down on to the 29 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:05.319 ground and dismantles key programs to meet basic Now this 30 00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:09.240 the quote here is from some of the people who 31 00:02:09.319 --> 00:02:12.080 are ruining the state. Let me just preface that to 32 00:02:12.159 --> 00:02:15.639 meet basic standards for healthy air, California has to shift 33 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:19.719 to zero, has to shift to zero emissions trucks and 34 00:02:19.759 --> 00:02:22.319 trains in the coming years. Diesel is one of the 35 00:02:22.360 --> 00:02:24.680 most dangerous kinds of air pollution for human health. In 36 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:27.360 California's diesel problem is big enough to cast its own 37 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:31.280 shadow Paul Court, director of the group Earth Justices Right 38 00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:34.840 to Zero Campaign, said in a statement. The group called 39 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:37.919 on Governor Knew, some state legislators and our air quality 40 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:40.840 regulators to join us to clean up our freight system 41 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:48.840 and fix the mess EPA's inaction has created. Now this 42 00:02:48.919 --> 00:02:51.560 is going to have an impact on this Advanced Clean 43 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:56.439 Fleet Rule California's Advanced Clean Fleet Rule, which phases out 44 00:02:56.520 --> 00:02:58.319 diesel trucks. It was one of the most far reaching 45 00:02:58.360 --> 00:03:01.840 and controversial rules that California has enacted in recent years 46 00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:04.520 to reduce air pollution in greenhouse gases. It would have 47 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:07.360 ended the sale of new fossil fuel trucks in twenty 48 00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:10.639 thirty six and required large trucking companies to convert their 49 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:13.520 medium and heavy duty fleets to electric or hydrogen models 50 00:03:13.879 --> 00:03:17.120 by twenty forty two. The Truck Fleet Rule was approved 51 00:03:17.159 --> 00:03:21.240 in twenty twenty two after years of analysis, public hearings, 52 00:03:21.240 --> 00:03:27.120 and discussions with industries and experts. After years of discussion, 53 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:32.840 after which we put in place a wildly unrealistic set 54 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:36.560 of goals to shoot for. It would have ended Diesel's 55 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:40.759 stronghold on goods movement in the state. Oh They have 56 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:44.000 a stranglehold they have a stronghold on it. I'm not 57 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:46.319 sure what a stronghold is that different from a stranglehold. 58 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:54.840 Allow me to explain why diesel has a stranglehold on 59 00:03:55.159 --> 00:03:59.159 the trucking industry. How else are you going to move 60 00:03:59.439 --> 00:04:06.680 large amount ounce of heavy stuff. It's the only way 61 00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:10.879 to make a cost efficient engine that will move that stuff. 62 00:04:12.199 --> 00:04:15.080 All right, You want to buy Tesla model trucks. I 63 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:17.879 saw one. I saw one in the wild one time. 64 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:20.199 I saw a semi truck with a Tesla logo on 65 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:21.800 the well, a Tesla logo on the front. 66 00:04:21.959 --> 00:04:25.720 I suppose it was a Tesla truck, but. 67 00:04:25.720 --> 00:04:28.839 I'll guarantee you they cost about eighty gazillion times more 68 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:37.639 than a diesel powered truck. Trucking companies have already sued 69 00:04:37.680 --> 00:04:40.000 the state to stop the measure, saying electric and hydrogen 70 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:42.920 big rigs are not practical for long haul uses and 71 00:04:42.920 --> 00:04:46.160 that it would destroy the state's economy. The California Trucking 72 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:51.279 Association has consistently stated the Advanced Clean Fleet's rule was unachievable. 73 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:54.360 Eric Sower, the chief executive of the association, said in 74 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:57.480 the statement. He said the industry would work with the state, 75 00:04:57.519 --> 00:05:00.000 Airborne and EPA to further reduce emissions in a tech 76 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:03.079 chologically feasible, in cost effective manner that preserves our state 77 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:09.839 and nation's critical supply chain. Other withdrawn measures and health concerns. 78 00:05:09.879 --> 00:05:12.680 Diesel exhaust has been linked to cancer and contains fine 79 00:05:12.680 --> 00:05:14.720 particles that can trigger asthma in heart attacks, as well 80 00:05:14.720 --> 00:05:18.639 as gases that form smog. Low income, disadvantaged communities of 81 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:21.519 color near ports, freeways, and warehouses, especially in the Los 82 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:23.959 Angeles and Long Beach area, have long complained about nauseous 83 00:05:23.959 --> 00:05:28.279 and dangerous diesel exhaust. The state withdrew three other measures 84 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:31.759 regulating emissions from diesel powered locomotives, commercial harbor craft, and 85 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:35.040 refrigeration unit engines that are hauled by trucks and railcars. 86 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:39.600 Under the railroad rule, only locomotives less than twenty three 87 00:05:39.639 --> 00:05:42.360 years old would have been allowed in California beginning in 88 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:47.639 twenty thirty unless they were zero emissions. The rule also 89 00:05:47.759 --> 00:05:50.680 limited how long they could be idle. People living in 90 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:53.319 communities with trains and rail yards have long complained that 91 00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:57.079 the emissions are making them sick. Railroads said no viable 92 00:05:57.199 --> 00:06:01.160 zero emission locomotive technology and infrastructure exists yet, so the 93 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:05.319 rules timeline is impossible, and that it would prematurely retire 94 00:06:05.399 --> 00:06:10.560 viable equipment and disrupt goods movement. This is the constant 95 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:17.040 posture of the environmental movement. They want something, they want 96 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:25.920 some switchover to a green zero emission standard, energy production 97 00:06:27.560 --> 00:06:38.839 train systems, trucking, all cars, and their activists push California 98 00:06:38.839 --> 00:06:43.560 regulators to come up with standards that the industries they're 99 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:48.079 regulating are just telling them this is not attainable, this 100 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:55.720 is impossible, And their response is well tough, and I mean, 101 00:06:56.639 --> 00:06:57.199 I get it. 102 00:06:57.759 --> 00:07:01.319 You're regulating an industry, the industry. 103 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:03.800 You're you're trying to get the industry to do something 104 00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:06.800 that's better for the country, better for the state that 105 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:08.959 maybe they don't want to do that puts more cost 106 00:07:09.040 --> 00:07:11.680 on them. They're gonna push back, They're gonna say no. 107 00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:15.360 But when you have these industries who flat out tell you, 108 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:24.399 if you do this, we cannot function. If you insist 109 00:07:26.040 --> 00:07:31.160 on an all hydrogen power or all electric power trucking 110 00:07:31.240 --> 00:07:35.040 fleet in California by twenty forty two, it's just not 111 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:35.680 gonna work. 112 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:37.480 The technology is not there. 113 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:45.600 Hydrogen and electric cars though, even though you can make them, 114 00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:50.720 they don't have the long haul capacity to go for 115 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:52.800 the miles and miles and miles and miles of miles, 116 00:07:52.839 --> 00:07:56.800 the hundreds of miles that truckers need to go without stopping. 117 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:05.920 We don't have the infrastructure in place to facilitate a trucking. 118 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:10.920 Industry switching over to all new vehicles being electric or 119 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:14.600 hydrogen powered by twenty thirty five, in all trucks being 120 00:08:14.959 --> 00:08:16.800 electric or hydrogen by twenty forty two. 121 00:08:17.120 --> 00:08:18.519 We don't have the infrastructure. 122 00:08:19.199 --> 00:08:23.920 It would destroy trucking in California, and the idea that 123 00:08:23.959 --> 00:08:26.399 the EPA was going to allow California to do that 124 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:30.600 given I mean, if you completely alter trucking rules like 125 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:34.679 that in California, obviously that's going to have a knockoff 126 00:08:34.679 --> 00:08:36.639 effect on the whole rest of the country, on the 127 00:08:36.840 --> 00:08:40.360 entire Western United States and really the whole country. How 128 00:08:40.440 --> 00:08:43.799 much American trucking and shipping is going out of or 129 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:55.679 into California a lot. So here's California actually being saved 130 00:08:55.840 --> 00:09:03.279 from itself, saved from imposing this idiotic air regulation scheme, 131 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:08.279 this idiotic emissions regulation scheme. That Look, I'm not denying 132 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:14.240 that diesel fuel particulates are bad for people. I'm not 133 00:09:14.360 --> 00:09:20.240 denying that environmental harms are not great. Here's what I 134 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:26.399 am saying, though this solution is impossible, This solution is 135 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:33.080 not feasible, you know, I mean going beyond that, I mean, 136 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:37.360 the article is talking about the prior California Air Resources Board, 137 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:39.840 you know, set of goals that they put in place 138 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:44.039 for all new cars, not just for trucks, just talking 139 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:46.120 about normal cars, the normal fleet of cars that you 140 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:51.080 and I drive, that all cars in California, all new 141 00:09:51.120 --> 00:09:53.519 car sales in California by twenty thirty five will be 142 00:09:53.600 --> 00:10:06.480 for zero emissions, cars, electric, whatever, zero emissions. And that's 143 00:10:06.679 --> 00:10:14.360 also a wildly unrealistic proposition. Our electrical grid cannot sustain 144 00:10:14.559 --> 00:10:18.240 having ten million, twelve million new cars on the road 145 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:21.440 that are all going to be electric powered. We don't 146 00:10:21.519 --> 00:10:24.200 have the capacity for that within the current of the 147 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:27.559 electric grid as currently constituted. So you're either going to 148 00:10:27.639 --> 00:10:32.000 need to build a couple of mega nuclear power plants. 149 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:35.759 Which no, the state is absolutely never going to do that. 150 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:40.919 Forget that idea. Absolutely we're not going nuclear, even though 151 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:46.480 it's obviously the right solution, a zero emissions solution. What 152 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:48.799 about the nuclear waste? All right? 153 00:10:49.919 --> 00:10:51.759 You want to do solar power instead? What do we 154 00:10:51.799 --> 00:10:56.399 do with the batteries when they're dead? You can't recycle them. 155 00:10:56.600 --> 00:10:59.279 The idea that nuclear waste is somehow more of a 156 00:10:59.320 --> 00:11:08.639 problem than electric panel batteries is laughable. And also nuclear 157 00:11:08.679 --> 00:11:11.559 works about eighty gazillion times better than solar power. Okay, 158 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:15.279 so we're not gonna do we have this bizarre fixation 159 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:18.519 in California on solar power rather than nuclear, as if 160 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:23.080 solar power has less of an environmental problem. After the fact, Okay, 161 00:11:23.960 --> 00:11:26.919 we don't have the solar power capacity, all right. There's 162 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:30.559 talk about like trying to set up offshore solar farms. 163 00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:34.279 There's talk about it, there's no actual doing of it. 164 00:11:34.279 --> 00:11:37.320 There's talk about it, I mean and the like. To 165 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:40.600 sustain fourteen million new electric cars on the road, you 166 00:11:40.600 --> 00:11:45.039 would need to set up an enormous offshore solar farm 167 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:49.279 industry in California and infrastructure and industry that does not exist. 168 00:11:49.519 --> 00:11:51.679 You would need to basically, I mean, look at how 169 00:11:51.679 --> 00:11:55.120 many gas stations we have in this state. You want 170 00:11:55.159 --> 00:11:57.039 all the cars on the road to be electric cars, 171 00:11:57.080 --> 00:11:59.559 you got to at some point convert all those gas 172 00:11:59.559 --> 00:12:04.759 stations into electric vehicle charging stations. And you got to 173 00:12:04.759 --> 00:12:10.559 tell me exactly how unless you're just we're just all 174 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:14.399 relying on Elon musk to solve the problem. I guess, 175 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:18.799 how are you going to get an electric car that 176 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:23.159 is as cheap as a Toyota Corolla Because we haven't 177 00:12:23.240 --> 00:12:26.240 quite figured that out yet. Right, the cheapest we're doing 178 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:29.919 is like thirty thirty five. I mean for any new Tesla, 179 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:34.440 the lowest end Tesla is still well above thirty thousand 180 00:12:34.480 --> 00:12:43.559 dollars unless I'm mistaken. So how do we propose to 181 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:46.679 do that other than just banking on the idea? Ah, 182 00:12:47.159 --> 00:12:52.080 Elon Muskle solve it. Elon Muscle figure out a way 183 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:56.200 to take the electric car concept and make it more 184 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:58.919 cost effective over the course of time, and eventually he'll 185 00:12:58.919 --> 00:13:01.720 have you know, eventually, at some point, Tesla will come 186 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:04.960 out with basically a Toyota Corolla equivalent car that is 187 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:09.399 priced at a Toyota Corolla equivalent level, and a mini 188 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:13.039 van that is priced at a you know, the what's. 189 00:13:12.879 --> 00:13:15.080 The I don't know, a Dodge Caravan. 190 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:19.799 I guess what's a lower level minivan as far as 191 00:13:19.840 --> 00:13:23.000 pricing scale. A minivan that can seat that many people, 192 00:13:23.039 --> 00:13:25.639 that can go that many miles, and that is cost 193 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:31.320 effective for an American family. That's that's what it's going 194 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:34.440 to take for this to be realistic. And we're not 195 00:13:34.519 --> 00:13:42.919 there yet. We are not there yet. So that's the 196 00:13:42.960 --> 00:13:46.639 amazing thing is that the incoming Trump administration basically they've 197 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:50.279 signaled we're not going to approve this insane California new 198 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:54.919 standard for trucking that all trucks have to be you know, 199 00:13:55.080 --> 00:13:58.440 zero emissions by this state. Forget about it. That's insane. 200 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:06.639 It's almost like the Trump EPA is saving California from itself. 201 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:15.919 It's saving and this is happening time and time again 202 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:20.200 where California is proposing regulations and again I understand not 203 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:24.480 not being dictated to by the industry you're trying to regulate, 204 00:14:25.320 --> 00:14:27.840 but when the industry you're trying to regulate is telling 205 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:33.480 you this will destroy our industry. This is an impossible 206 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:38.000 standard to meet. I mean, this reminds me of exon 207 00:14:38.360 --> 00:14:43.000 when California was when Governor Newsom proposed this, the legislation 208 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:47.279 that we passed last year for fuel refineries and they 209 00:14:47.320 --> 00:14:51.399 have to maintain a consistently artificially high inflated supply of 210 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:55.360 fuel so that we won't have artificial summer spikes and 211 00:14:55.399 --> 00:15:00.679 gas prices, and Exon was telling the state this is 212 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:04.200 an idiotic regulation. It is going to just increase costs 213 00:15:04.200 --> 00:15:06.519 for us all year round, which could lead to higher 214 00:15:06.519 --> 00:15:09.080 gas prices all year round rather than just spiking in 215 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:12.399 the summertime. And guess what, we're really questioning whether we 216 00:15:12.440 --> 00:15:14.639 want to keep investing in California because it costs US 217 00:15:14.679 --> 00:15:17.840 like three hundred million dollars to maintain a fuel refiner, 218 00:15:17.879 --> 00:15:21.840 any individual fuel refinery station in the state of California. 219 00:15:21.879 --> 00:15:26.039 We're really gonna consider withdrawing our investment. And Gavin Newsom's 220 00:15:26.039 --> 00:15:31.799 response was eh, Like, again, I get not coddling the 221 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:34.480 industry that you're trying to regulate. I get not being 222 00:15:34.759 --> 00:15:37.120 wanting to be captured by the industry you're trying to regulate. 223 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:38.919 But when the industry you're trying to regulate is telling 224 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:44.960 you we are leaving, Sayonara, and your attitude is one 225 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:54.559 of just blunt in transigent combativeness and not actually listening 226 00:15:54.600 --> 00:15:57.799 to them and not taking the expertise that they honestly 227 00:15:57.879 --> 00:16:03.120 have into account and they're not being given take well, 228 00:16:03.320 --> 00:16:07.240 it's a recipe for disaster, for economic disaster for companies 229 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:13.120 just leaving the state and ultimately for more costs to 230 00:16:13.200 --> 00:16:21.559 the consumer all around. When we return, have you noticed 231 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:26.080 that California doesn't care about hybrid cars anymore? Next on 232 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:31.600 the John Girardi Show, I got this interesting story sent 233 00:16:31.679 --> 00:16:36.799 to me by my buddy Eric. It was sent by 234 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:40.720 It was this piece written by i e F, which 235 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:45.879 is some sort of International Energy Federation or something like that, 236 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:52.559 this international based entity that looks at energy stuff. And 237 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:57.440 part of what they are saying in this piece, this 238 00:16:57.519 --> 00:17:05.000 piece about how do we electrify global fleets of cars? 239 00:17:06.599 --> 00:17:11.200 The International Energy Form Excuse me, so they're talking about 240 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:17.559 how do you electrify global vehicle fleets? Okay, fossil fuel 241 00:17:17.559 --> 00:17:19.279 emission that this a whole article is about. You know, 242 00:17:19.359 --> 00:17:22.119 fossil fuel emissions are bad. We need to find zero emissions, 243 00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:28.200 ways of zero emissions, ways of allowing people to do transportation. 244 00:17:28.279 --> 00:17:28.799 What do we do. 245 00:17:32.119 --> 00:17:34.160 One of the things they note in this piece are 246 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:38.599 the rare earth minerals you need to make electric cars. 247 00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:42.279 But then they compare it with something that I don't 248 00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:44.079 know how many of you have noticed this. Not a 249 00:17:44.119 --> 00:17:46.400 lot of discussion about these anymore. They used to be 250 00:17:46.440 --> 00:17:51.200 the new hot thing. Every environmentalist would proudly parade their 251 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:53.759 prius in front of you back about you know, fifteen 252 00:17:53.839 --> 00:17:57.240 years ago, and I'm talking about hybrid cars. 253 00:17:58.240 --> 00:17:59.480 Have you all noticed this. 254 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:06.680 The environmental discussions of today, nobody's talking about hybrid cars anymore. 255 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:10.839 When the California Air Resources Board gives their you know, 256 00:18:10.880 --> 00:18:15.119 completely unrealistic projection, their insistence that by twenty thirty five 257 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:19.279 all new car sales in California must be electric. 258 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:24.799 Cars, not hybrids, you would have thought maybe a nice middle. 259 00:18:24.559 --> 00:18:28.200 Road, an easy transition way, would be, you know, fifty 260 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:30.920 percent need to be electric and the other fifty percent 261 00:18:31.000 --> 00:18:33.680 need to be hybrid or or you know, hybrid cars 262 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:39.720 as a transition to having an all electric fleet, especially 263 00:18:39.880 --> 00:18:44.440 now when hybrid cars are often not that much more 264 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:48.960 expensive than normal cars. I was looking around, you know, 265 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:51.079 not trying to do a commercial for Ford, but I 266 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:55.279 see they have this little Ford Maverick. Basically it's basically 267 00:18:55.319 --> 00:18:57.599 an El Camino. It's kind of like a car, but 268 00:18:57.640 --> 00:19:01.880 it has a kind of trucky tiny tray and it's 269 00:19:01.880 --> 00:19:05.240 a hybrid car. And I'm like, well, it's not really 270 00:19:05.279 --> 00:19:12.240 that expensive. I mean, it's not that expensive it's a hybrid, 271 00:19:12.359 --> 00:19:13.839 so I mean i'd save money on gas. 272 00:19:13.880 --> 00:19:14.640 Why wouldn't I get it? 273 00:19:14.680 --> 00:19:18.519 I mean, I'm like, you know, I'm in the unfortunate 274 00:19:18.519 --> 00:19:21.359 position that maybe economically makes absolutely no sense for me 275 00:19:21.400 --> 00:19:22.319 to buy a new car. 276 00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:24.519 My car works perfectly fine. 277 00:19:27.519 --> 00:19:32.880 But I find it fascinating that there's no more discussion 278 00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:37.319 about hybrid cars anymore. All that the environmentalists are talking 279 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:43.200 about nowadays is electric and hydrogen zero emissions. They don't 280 00:19:43.200 --> 00:19:45.920 care about the fact that, I mean, hybrid cars are 281 00:19:46.200 --> 00:19:53.559 far fewer emissions. And this piece from the again from 282 00:19:53.559 --> 00:19:58.839 the ief they write. To electrify the global vehicle fleet, 283 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:02.880 have all the vehicles throughout the world become ultimately electric 284 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:09.640 cars requires bringing into production fifty five percent more new 285 00:20:10.160 --> 00:20:14.839 mines mines for rare earth minerals than would otherwise be needed. 286 00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:22.000 On the other hand, hybrid electric vehicle manufacture would require 287 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:30.480 negligible extra copper mining, so we could have the whole 288 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:39.119 world transition to hybrid cars with And this is the 289 00:20:39.119 --> 00:20:41.960 other thing. For some reason, we're so fixated on zero 290 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:43.960 missions electric cars in spite of the fact that there 291 00:20:43.960 --> 00:20:47.880 are real environmental harms associated with it, like the kinds 292 00:20:47.920 --> 00:20:51.640 of mining you have to do for the stuff you 293 00:20:51.720 --> 00:20:54.839 need for electric car batteries is pretty bad for the environment. 294 00:20:54.920 --> 00:20:57.480 It's just it's bad for the environment in Africa. We 295 00:20:57.519 --> 00:21:00.960 don't see it in America. So I guess for environmentalists 296 00:21:01.000 --> 00:21:03.920 they think that that's better. Somehow we can export our 297 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:06.720 environmental harms to the Third world and somehow that makes us, 298 00:21:06.759 --> 00:21:07.720 that should make us feel. 299 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:08.400 Better about ourselves. 300 00:21:12.920 --> 00:21:14.960 When your turn, I want to talk more about this 301 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:20.640 hybrid thing, the all or nothing approach of the American 302 00:21:20.720 --> 00:21:21.759 environmentalist movement. 303 00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:23.200 That's next on the John Jrwardy Show. 304 00:21:25.160 --> 00:21:27.359 I want to talk about this weird dynamic I see 305 00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:30.480 with the environmental left, and I'm noticing it like everywhere. 306 00:21:31.480 --> 00:21:35.200 You notice it with the discussion of electric vehicles versus 307 00:21:35.279 --> 00:21:39.680 hybrid vehicles. You notice it with the discussion of forestry management. 308 00:21:43.359 --> 00:21:44.279 You notice it with. 309 00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:47.720 How they want to regulate the fuel and the fossil 310 00:21:47.720 --> 00:21:48.960 fuels industry in California. 311 00:21:49.039 --> 00:21:50.359 I e. Completely eliminate it. 312 00:21:51.519 --> 00:22:00.559 And it's this, this all or nothing approach, and all 313 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:07.960 or nothing approached. Any environmental harm, even a slight environmental 314 00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:12.839 harm that is in the interest of serving some greater 315 00:22:13.119 --> 00:22:19.400 long term gain, is deemed by the left unacceptable. No 316 00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:26.359 half measures, no middle ground, no compromise, between well we 317 00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:29.039 have on the on the one hand, we have the 318 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:31.880 interests of human beings who would like to have jobs 319 00:22:31.920 --> 00:22:35.599 and have a growing economy and have food on the 320 00:22:35.640 --> 00:22:39.920 table and have the cost of goods go down or 321 00:22:39.960 --> 00:22:42.680 the environment. And the environment wins one hundred percent of 322 00:22:42.720 --> 00:22:45.920 the time, every single which way to Sunday. 323 00:22:46.440 --> 00:22:47.839 You see it with forestry management. 324 00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:51.599 After we had all these wildfires in California, a lot 325 00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:54.880 of people had a lot of very sensible, obvious solutions 326 00:22:54.920 --> 00:23:00.319 for how do we mitigate these disastrous wildfires, these wilds 327 00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:06.160 which by the way, result in catastrophic environmental harm, like 328 00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:12.759 result in enormous amounts of horrible stuff going up in 329 00:23:12.799 --> 00:23:15.759 the air. You know, we regulate farmers to death, but 330 00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:18.519 for how much they can burn, what days they can burn, 331 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:22.519 when they can burn. But one forest fire will do 332 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:27.599 more to harm the environment than forty years of California 333 00:23:27.640 --> 00:23:35.319 state environmental programs have done to mitigate environmental damage. So, 334 00:23:35.759 --> 00:23:42.720 I mean, what are we even talking about. Basically, it's 335 00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:45.559 this all or nothing approach. After all the big wildfires, 336 00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:48.119 what were the solutions everyone had. We've all heard them, 337 00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:54.640 We've all rattled them off. Thinning of overgrown forests, clearing 338 00:23:54.680 --> 00:24:01.319 away brush, sweeping up forest floors, having controlled burns, in 339 00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:05.440 some cases limited control stuff that the Native Americans used 340 00:24:05.440 --> 00:24:11.039 to do, having limited controlled burns to mitigate prevent the 341 00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:17.559 incidents of some larger fire, allowing some logging to clear away, 342 00:24:17.640 --> 00:24:21.720 especially to clear away old, dead, fallen trees, to thin 343 00:24:21.880 --> 00:24:30.279 out forests that are massively overgrown, and the environmentalist left 344 00:24:30.319 --> 00:24:34.640 opposes it every single step of the way. Newsom even 345 00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:37.279 wanted to do some of those things, allowed some of 346 00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:39.480 those things to be done, but he had this constant 347 00:24:39.559 --> 00:24:42.559 bam pam pam pam pam of pressure coming from his 348 00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:47.359 leftward flank to say no, no, no, no no. And 349 00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:50.000 by the way, it's it's not just these environmental groups. 350 00:24:50.200 --> 00:24:53.519 These environmental groups don't have power in and of themselves. 351 00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:56.119 The reason they have power is because they are backed 352 00:24:56.319 --> 00:25:01.559 by gazillionaire donors whom gave Newsome has to dance for 353 00:25:01.759 --> 00:25:04.160 like a monkey to placate them so that he can 354 00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:06.359 run for president. And all the Democrats all up and 355 00:25:06.359 --> 00:25:10.079 down California state politics have to placate these donor interests. 356 00:25:11.400 --> 00:25:14.279 This is why the environmental movement is such a relevant force. 357 00:25:14.519 --> 00:25:17.559 It's like the definition of special interests. It's just really 358 00:25:17.640 --> 00:25:21.839 wealthy people who are really important to one political party 359 00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:30.400 and they're functioning. It's this wildly outsized sphere of special 360 00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:39.119 interest influence. Now, so they opposed everything. It was an 361 00:25:39.240 --> 00:25:45.799 all or nothing strategy, absolutely zero. When we look at 362 00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:50.359 what and we look at in other areas where environmental 363 00:25:50.440 --> 00:25:53.599 law is concerned, our goals for energy production in California, 364 00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:56.680 it's not okay, well, we're going to transition to you know, 365 00:25:56.799 --> 00:25:59.200 gradually growing with a plan of this is how we're 366 00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:02.440 going to build more you know, solar infrastructure. This is 367 00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:07.400 how we'll build more hydrogen power infrastructure. You know, we 368 00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:12.440 can have more hydro you know, water power infrastructure. And 369 00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:14.920 ultimately this will set us on a plan of having 370 00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:18.720 you know, seventy five percent of California energy production be 371 00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:21.920 zero emissions by the ear TA DA DA DA DA. 372 00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:24.319 Even the stuff that is emissions producing, we'll focus more 373 00:26:24.319 --> 00:26:26.680 on natural gas rather than so and such. You know, 374 00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:30.720 we have a lot of oil in Bakersfield area. California 375 00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:34.119 has you know, an energy industry of its own. We 376 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:36.119 could pump for more oil here, we could ex support it, 377 00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:38.279 we could sell, we could we can make money off 378 00:26:38.279 --> 00:26:41.640 of this. We can help foster jobs in the current 379 00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:47.000 county area. We could have energy production from this. No, 380 00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:50.279 not the approach California takes. California takes the approach of 381 00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:54.359 Our goal is zero emissions period, and not zero emissions 382 00:26:54.359 --> 00:27:00.039 by hydro power ultimately, because hydro power requires dams, and 383 00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:07.440 dams hurt the fishies. So not prioritizing hydro power. Just 384 00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:11.440 hydrogen power plants, solar plants and wind farms. Solar and 385 00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:15.200 wind that don't work very well. Hydrogen I don't know 386 00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:19.960 too much about. But absolutely no nuclear, which is the 387 00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:29.759 obvious solution for the whole world. Absolutely no nuclear, Absolutely no, 388 00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:35.480 absolutely no nuclear. Absolutely nothing that involves burning fossil fuel, 389 00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:42.599 even though these are obviously the best ways to produce energy. Okay, 390 00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:47.079 no give, no take, no compromise, no, like, let's work 391 00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:50.880 towards correcting this problem long term. No. And in fact, 392 00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:53.759 when you ask, well, how are we how are we 393 00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:56.960 gonna mitigate forest fires? Well, we need to you know, 394 00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:59.920 we need to do something about climate change. You're not 395 00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:04.400 gonna do anything about climate change. California could become the 396 00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:09.720 most green, peaceful, idyllic place in the world. It's state 397 00:28:09.759 --> 00:28:13.400 government can be completely taken over by environmentalist wackos, which 398 00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:16.880 it has been for fourteen years, and it's not gonna 399 00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:21.720 reverse climate change. Okay, you've had complete environmentalist control of 400 00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:26.839 every branch of California state government for fourteen years. You 401 00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:30.839