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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everybody, Welcome to you the buck Eye Weekly Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Tony Gerdaman here as always with Tom or Tom.

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<v Speaker 2>How's it going, Tony? It is going back.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so glad that you asked. It is really starting

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<v Speaker 3>to feel like football season, like we are we're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about show topics and we are firmly out of the like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know which team has the prettiest costumes off

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<v Speaker 3>season kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It is like, all right, let us let us get

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<v Speaker 2>into some like football football, let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we did get to see the first three practices.

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<v Speaker 1>We've heard some of the stuff that happened at the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth practice of the closed practice, which you can find

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<v Speaker 1>a discussion of over Buckeye Insiders dot com on the

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<v Speaker 1>Buckeye Insider's message board. Sign up now you can. You

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<v Speaker 1>can read about stuff we're hearing, and it's coming in daily,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes hourly and by the minute. But we now, having

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<v Speaker 1>seen what we do have seen, having seen what we've seen,

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<v Speaker 1>there are still some questions. Of course, Hey, after four days,

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<v Speaker 1>four days, four days of camp, Yes, you're still gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have questions, and so I want to throw some questions

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<v Speaker 1>out there for you Tom and the first one for

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<v Speaker 1>the offense that I have that I'm still is unanswered

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<v Speaker 1>to me, and really that's what matters. We still need

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<v Speaker 1>to see more from Tavi and Saint Clair. He is

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<v Speaker 1>the backup, but it would be good to see him

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<v Speaker 1>performing consistently like a starter, because that's what you want

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<v Speaker 1>your backup to do. Now, it's what every backup does.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's also so early that at this point last

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<v Speaker 1>year there were still you know, today was a better

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<v Speaker 1>day for Lincoln keyholds. Today was a better day for

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<v Speaker 1>Julian saying. And that is whether you want to believe

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<v Speaker 1>it or not, you whether the people want.

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<v Speaker 3>To believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 1>This is these were the reports coming out. Would we'd

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<v Speaker 1>be we'd be waiting for to do interviews and somebody

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<v Speaker 1>would come out and I remember talking with somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's like play it was a good day

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<v Speaker 1>for Lincoln today and he was. He was clearly the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>And then by the middle of camp it's Chile Insane

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<v Speaker 1>has been named the starter. I would I would like

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<v Speaker 1>to start hearing more, seeing more, but we probably won't

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<v Speaker 1>see anymore, but hear more that Tavi Saint Clair, who

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<v Speaker 1>is the de facto, and the true backup is getting

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<v Speaker 1>some raves for his ability to move the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you need that.

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<v Speaker 3>They they have not had to turn to the backup

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback in every single season. But you go back through

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<v Speaker 3>the years and everyone will immediately jump to twenty fourteen

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<v Speaker 3>where it's like, well, you need to have three quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 3>because you're going to need a third quarterback once you

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<v Speaker 3>get to the college football payoff. And that's really, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>like a huge outlier. But you go back a few

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<v Speaker 3>years and they were up at Michigan State and they

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<v Speaker 3>needed I think I was twenty twenty two, they needed

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<v Speaker 3>Devin Brown to come in and throw a touchdown pass,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, and then you get there your starter

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<v Speaker 3>back and it's fine, but you you are going to

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<v Speaker 3>need a backup probably at some point during some kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a game and you need TV. And Saint Clay

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<v Speaker 3>is someone where everything is there, all the pieces are there,

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<v Speaker 3>but right now you're still sort of in the assembly

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<v Speaker 3>portion of the process where you know you have the size,

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<v Speaker 3>you have the strength, you have the you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>have seen him. We saw him run a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>on Saturday, and it was like he was he looked good,

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<v Speaker 3>just kind of finding a little bit of an opening

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<v Speaker 3>and just like boom taken off downfield, but you want

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<v Speaker 3>to see him be able to kind of make all

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<v Speaker 3>the throws. That's still a little bit of a work

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<v Speaker 3>in process. You you know, you have you're looking around,

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<v Speaker 3>you have all the parts, you have the ice ikea

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<v Speaker 3>assembly instructions, but they're still a little bit in the

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<v Speaker 3>guy with the question mark over his head sort of

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<v Speaker 3>portion where it's like, you gotta you gotta figure out

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<v Speaker 3>how to put all that together. And you're realistically having

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<v Speaker 3>covered these camps for years and years and years, there

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<v Speaker 3>are gonna be days where you hear he had a

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<v Speaker 3>great day.

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<v Speaker 2>There a good days where you say he had a

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<v Speaker 2>bad day, and that's true of virtually everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>There are veteran guys on the team where will occasionally hear, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he didn't have a very good day, and it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still betting on that guy to have a very

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<v Speaker 3>good season this year. You just you want to start

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<v Speaker 3>hearing a little bit more of yeah, man, Tavy and

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<v Speaker 3>Tavian really had a good day today, And it's just

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's one of those things that we're just gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be kind of watching for throughout the throughout the month,

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<v Speaker 3>because if something does happen to Julian's saying, he is,

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<v Speaker 3>he is the next man up, and then all of

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<v Speaker 3>a sudden boom, the season is on your shoulders.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we're only getting to see things immediately. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not seeing the film afterward. Talking with Tavian Saint Clair afterwards,

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<v Speaker 1>what did you see? What we're you know? Because remember

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<v Speaker 1>he's the number two line, number two quarterback. He has

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<v Speaker 1>got the number two offensive line and sometimes threes will

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<v Speaker 1>mix in there as well. So you're going with the

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<v Speaker 1>number two offensive line against a number two defense that

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<v Speaker 1>is basically rotational with the number one defense in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of places, especially upfront when your number twos he's

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<v Speaker 1>facing your John Walker and James Smith like those guys

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<v Speaker 1>are also going to be with the ones, and so

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<v Speaker 1>are some of the defensive mens. The mixing and matching

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<v Speaker 1>that they do. So it's asking Tavian to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to handle, essentially a starting unit defensively with a second

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<v Speaker 1>team offensive line. Which is why I wonder how many

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<v Speaker 1>times Lincoln Keynolts had the better day today, is because

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<v Speaker 1>did he have the first team offensive line? And is

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<v Speaker 1>the reason Julian saying had the better day of the

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<v Speaker 1>next day because he had the first team offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>You saw some of the same stuff with Devin bright

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<v Speaker 1>On a comm accord and right now, what we really

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen much of is in the past, when they

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<v Speaker 1>would do two offensive lines, it would just be a

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<v Speaker 1>completely mix and match. Right now, it seems like they're

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<v Speaker 1>still working to find their their top five, so they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to do too much mixing until they know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, before they know who that's going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess that can take us right into the

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<v Speaker 1>next unanswered question, which is basically Ian Moore versus Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Padilla in terms of being one of those top five

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<v Speaker 1>and they are not competing for the same position. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just a matter of ise Ian Moore at left tackle

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<v Speaker 1>and Austin Sierraveld at right guard better than Josh Padilla

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<v Speaker 1>at right guard in Austin Seerveld at left tackle. The

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<v Speaker 1>first day though, Tom when we saw Austin Seerveld at

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<v Speaker 1>left tackle or Ian Moore at left tackle and Austin

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<v Speaker 1>Seerveld at right guard, it was kind of a little nod.

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<v Speaker 1>But now it's up to Josh Padilla to turn the

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<v Speaker 1>nod into like, no.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, nothing is settled yet, and I think that they are.

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<v Speaker 3>You get this senor leaning towards Ian Moore as the

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<v Speaker 3>left tackle right now, and I think you've seen enough

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<v Speaker 3>positive stuff there that I think that that is probably

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<v Speaker 3>going to at least be a.

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<v Speaker 2>Viable solution there. But they are not.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't seem in any huge rush to make a decision.

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<v Speaker 3>One thing that it kind of jumped out to me

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<v Speaker 3>was going back and listening to Ryan Day talk about

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<v Speaker 3>the offensive line, you know, shuffle, when who's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be the best five and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>This was Thursday, after the first practice of the fall.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it going to be Ian Moore at left tackle

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<v Speaker 3>and Austin Seravel at right guard or Austin Seerveld at

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<v Speaker 3>left tackle and Josh Prittia at right guard.

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<v Speaker 2>And Ryan Day brought up Philip Daniel's name as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think there's a possibility that the best five

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<v Speaker 3>is Austin Serrea and Ian Moore at the tackle positions

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<v Speaker 3>and Josh Vidia at right guard.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's a possibility.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not expecting that that's that's certainly not where I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's most likely to land. But I also don't

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<v Speaker 3>think this is a purely binary thing. Is it Joshvidia

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<v Speaker 3>or is it Ian Moore. I think there's other possibilities

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<v Speaker 3>at least on the table here, and they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>take their time and they're going to explore this. But

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<v Speaker 3>my expectation would be by the end of this upcoming

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<v Speaker 3>week or maybe early the following week, so Monday, Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 3>something like that of the following week, so that would

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<v Speaker 3>be something like the seventeenth, eighteenth, give or take of August.

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<v Speaker 3>I think at that point they're going to want to

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<v Speaker 3>know who their best five is. But I think they're

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<v Speaker 3>probably gonna take a little more time and explore things

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<v Speaker 3>just to make sure they know they have the right answer.

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<v Speaker 1>The good news is they have options. It's it's always

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<v Speaker 1>bad news when well, we're going to move a defensive

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<v Speaker 1>linement over to see if he can compete, or we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna bulk up this tight end, which we've seen over

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<v Speaker 1>the years at Ohio State and now, when they've moved

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<v Speaker 1>a defensive end or a defensive tackle over to offensive line,

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<v Speaker 1>it has generally worked well enough. I mean, they won

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<v Speaker 1>a national title with Darryl Baldwin as a tackle, and

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<v Speaker 1>we saw Chase Ferris do well. We've seen Joel Hall

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<v Speaker 1>go back and forth from offense to defense. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the worst thing in the world, but it's always

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<v Speaker 1>better when you don't have to learn to play a

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<v Speaker 1>new position. You just you were born an offensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll die an offensive linemen, and in the middle you'll

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<v Speaker 1>figure out where you fit on the Ohio State offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>The last question, and there are more. The last question

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about today is we have seen

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<v Speaker 1>nothing from Kyle Parker at receiver yet. Now he's been

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<v Speaker 1>coming back from an injury. They're bringing him along and

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<v Speaker 1>I was there Saturday, and you know, they're doing all

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<v Speaker 1>their stretching and then it's like, all right, it's time

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<v Speaker 1>for practice, and Kyle Parker basically just heads inside because

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<v Speaker 1>now it's like I've got to go do what I

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<v Speaker 1>can do and we still need to see him. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he had some positive buzz coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>the spring and into the summer, and so i'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to see some of that on the field now. Tom

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<v Speaker 1>I was way way you would say overboard talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Devin McEwan and then you're there on Saturday, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like Devin ickewen dropped a couple of passes, did not

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<v Speaker 1>did not live up to what he did before. I

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<v Speaker 1>won't say didn't live up to the hype. It wasn't hype,

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<v Speaker 1>it was fact. It happened. We all saw it. But

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<v Speaker 1>it would be good for Kyle Parker to have some

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<v Speaker 1>of those days in the very near future.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he needs to get out there and be healthy

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<v Speaker 3>as soon as he possibly can, because yeah, the season

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<v Speaker 3>is still almost four weeks away, a little under four

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<v Speaker 3>weeks away. But you gotta get out there and you

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<v Speaker 3>gotta be you gotta be healthy, and you gotta start

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<v Speaker 3>building timing and all that kind of stuff, and you

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<v Speaker 3>got to show that you've got to earn a spot

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<v Speaker 3>in that rotation because you know, you know, the Jeremiah

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<v Speaker 3>Smith spot is spoken for, and you would assume Brandon

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<v Speaker 3>Innes is not going to be the easiest guy in

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<v Speaker 3>the world to unseat in the slot.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Devin McEwen.

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<v Speaker 3>We went into the fall saying Devin McEwen and Kyle

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<v Speaker 3>Parker somewhat interchangeably, and Parker could play inside.

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<v Speaker 2>Parker could play outside.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, where where is he going to fit in

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<v Speaker 3>and right now you're just sort of saying, Devin McEwen

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<v Speaker 3>and Kyle Parker is just watching, and you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>you hurt, you're heard, there's nothing you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Do about that other than just get healthy.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're also hearing enough about some of the younger guys,

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<v Speaker 3>particularly Chris Henry Junior and Brock Boyd, that they want

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<v Speaker 3>to find five or six guys that they can rely

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<v Speaker 3>on this year to at least be rotational guys. My

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<v Speaker 3>sense is that those two of those freshmen are going

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<v Speaker 3>to at least be in that conversation. And so now

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to you know, Kyle Parker is looking ahead

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<v Speaker 3>and Brandon Innis, but he's also kind of got to

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<v Speaker 3>because objects and mirror maybe closer than they appear in

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, this is again, this is.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing that Kyle Parker has done wrong. So you guys

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<v Speaker 3>miss time in fall camp. That is a thing that

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<v Speaker 3>happened on every team every single season. But it would

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<v Speaker 3>it would certainly be really really good for Kyle Parker

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<v Speaker 3>and really really good for the ohis state wide receiver room.

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<v Speaker 2>If he was back out there.

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<v Speaker 3>And you could really sort of figure out what do

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<v Speaker 3>where do these pieces really fit best together.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean he left LSU to come to ohiose

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<v Speaker 1>debut with Cortez Hankton. You know, he's itching to get

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<v Speaker 1>out there and show everybody. We saw Legend Bay on

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<v Speaker 1>his first practice running really hard, like wanting to just

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<v Speaker 1>get back out there. So you know, Kyle Parker dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with what he's dealing with. Once he gets out there,

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be feisty as heck and trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>plays all over the place, and it would be good

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<v Speaker 1>to see what happens. Interesting to see what happens from that.

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<v Speaker 1>But his versatility, his ability to perhaps make guys miss well,

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<v Speaker 1>you look at him, and I've said it before, he's

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<v Speaker 1>five ten, one ninety five. He looks like a running back.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's not a good that you're necessarily going to

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<v Speaker 1>bring down with an arm tackle after the catch. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just a matter of what are they doing with them.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're going to see some screens with him,

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<v Speaker 1>screens with Devin mcew and some quicker, shorter stuff to

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<v Speaker 1>allow them to use that burst in that run. Although

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<v Speaker 1>based on what I saw from Devin McEwan, he does

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<v Speaker 1>not need to just be a short pass guy. He

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<v Speaker 1>can stretch the field. And you know, I'm interested to

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<v Speaker 1>see if Kyle Parker can. He did it a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit at LSU, but I don't know that that's his

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<v Speaker 1>role with Ohio State. But again, we don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>his role is because we haven't yet seen him. But

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<v Speaker 1>we are talking about this and more over at Buckeye

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<v Speaker 1>Insiders dot com. Like I said, we've got some other

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<v Speaker 1>intel there as well about how things are going at

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<v Speaker 1>practice and what we're hearing and what we're seeing and

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<v Speaker 1>all of that. So if any of that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff interests you, and if you're listening to this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>probably does, you can find even more of that in

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<v Speaker 1>us over at Buckeye Insiders dot Com. Would love to

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<v Speaker 1>see you there. It is the absolute best way to

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<v Speaker 1>support what we do. That will do it fair. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you off again and we'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to you all.

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<v Speaker 3>This time. What about.

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<v Speaker 2>Rushing through awaydom? No one tell me, I wish you.

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<v Speaker 3>Never then nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Where where my FA.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can tell me that's a Moot's all right.

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<v Speaker 2>We can steal currently

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