Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome to you the buck Eye Weekly Podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm Tony Gerdaman here as always with Tom or Tom.
Speaker 2: How's it going, Tony? It is going back.
Speaker 3: I'm so glad that you asked. It is really starting
Speaker 3: to feel like football season, like we are we're talking
Speaker 3: about show topics and we are firmly out of the like, well,
Speaker 3: I don't know which team has the prettiest costumes off
Speaker 3: season kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: It is like, all right, let us let us get
Speaker 2: into some like football football, let's go.
Speaker 3: Let's go.
Speaker 1: And so we did get to see the first three practices.
Speaker 1: We've heard some of the stuff that happened at the
Speaker 1: fourth practice of the closed practice, which you can find
Speaker 1: a discussion of over Buckeye Insiders dot com on the
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Speaker 1: can read about stuff we're hearing, and it's coming in daily,
Speaker 1: sometimes hourly and by the minute. But we now, having
Speaker 1: seen what we do have seen, having seen what we've seen,
Speaker 1: there are still some questions. Of course, Hey, after four days,
Speaker 1: four days, four days of camp, Yes, you're still gonna
Speaker 1: have questions, and so I want to throw some questions
Speaker 1: out there for you Tom and the first one for
Speaker 1: the offense that I have that I'm still is unanswered
Speaker 1: to me, and really that's what matters. We still need
Speaker 1: to see more from Tavi and Saint Clair. He is
Speaker 1: the backup, but it would be good to see him
Speaker 1: performing consistently like a starter, because that's what you want
Speaker 1: your backup to do. Now, it's what every backup does.
Speaker 1: But it's also so early that at this point last
Speaker 1: year there were still you know, today was a better
Speaker 1: day for Lincoln keyholds. Today was a better day for
Speaker 1: Julian saying. And that is whether you want to believe
Speaker 1: it or not, you whether the people want.
Speaker 3: To believe it or not.
Speaker 1: This is these were the reports coming out. Would we'd
Speaker 1: be we'd be waiting for to do interviews and somebody
Speaker 1: would come out and I remember talking with somebody that
Speaker 1: I know he's like play it was a good day
Speaker 1: for Lincoln today and he was. He was clearly the guy.
Speaker 1: And then by the middle of camp it's Chile Insane
Speaker 1: has been named the starter. I would I would like
Speaker 1: to start hearing more, seeing more, but we probably won't
Speaker 1: see anymore, but hear more that Tavi Saint Clair, who
Speaker 1: is the de facto, and the true backup is getting
Speaker 1: some raves for his ability to move the ball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you need that.
Speaker 3: They they have not had to turn to the backup
Speaker 3: quarterback in every single season. But you go back through
Speaker 3: the years and everyone will immediately jump to twenty fourteen
Speaker 3: where it's like, well, you need to have three quarterbacks
Speaker 3: because you're going to need a third quarterback once you
Speaker 3: get to the college football payoff. And that's really, I mean,
Speaker 3: like a huge outlier. But you go back a few
Speaker 3: years and they were up at Michigan State and they
Speaker 3: needed I think I was twenty twenty two, they needed
Speaker 3: Devin Brown to come in and throw a touchdown pass,
Speaker 3: and you know, and then you get there your starter
Speaker 3: back and it's fine, but you you are going to
Speaker 3: need a backup probably at some point during some kind
Speaker 3: of a game and you need TV. And Saint Clay
Speaker 3: is someone where everything is there, all the pieces are there,
Speaker 3: but right now you're still sort of in the assembly
Speaker 3: portion of the process where you know you have the size,
Speaker 3: you have the strength, you have the you know, we
Speaker 3: have seen him. We saw him run a little bit
Speaker 3: on Saturday, and it was like he was he looked good,
Speaker 3: just kind of finding a little bit of an opening
Speaker 3: and just like boom taken off downfield, but you want
Speaker 3: to see him be able to kind of make all
Speaker 3: the throws. That's still a little bit of a work
Speaker 3: in process. You you know, you have you're looking around,
Speaker 3: you have all the parts, you have the ice ikea
Speaker 3: assembly instructions, but they're still a little bit in the
Speaker 3: guy with the question mark over his head sort of
Speaker 3: portion where it's like, you gotta you gotta figure out
Speaker 3: how to put all that together. And you're realistically having
Speaker 3: covered these camps for years and years and years, there
Speaker 3: are gonna be days where you hear he had a
Speaker 3: great day.
Speaker 2: There a good days where you say he had a
Speaker 2: bad day, and that's true of virtually everyone.
Speaker 3: There are veteran guys on the team where will occasionally hear, yeah,
Speaker 3: he didn't have a very good day, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm still betting on that guy to have a very
Speaker 3: good season this year. You just you want to start
Speaker 3: hearing a little bit more of yeah, man, Tavy and
Speaker 3: Tavian really had a good day today, And it's just
Speaker 3: that's that's one of those things that we're just gonna
Speaker 3: be kind of watching for throughout the throughout the month,
Speaker 3: because if something does happen to Julian's saying, he is,
Speaker 3: he is the next man up, and then all of
Speaker 3: a sudden boom, the season is on your shoulders.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're only getting to see things immediately. We're
Speaker 1: not seeing the film afterward. Talking with Tavian Saint Clair afterwards,
Speaker 1: what did you see? What we're you know? Because remember
Speaker 1: he's the number two line, number two quarterback. He has
Speaker 1: got the number two offensive line and sometimes threes will
Speaker 1: mix in there as well. So you're going with the
Speaker 1: number two offensive line against a number two defense that
Speaker 1: is basically rotational with the number one defense in a
Speaker 1: lot of places, especially upfront when your number twos he's
Speaker 1: facing your John Walker and James Smith like those guys
Speaker 1: are also going to be with the ones, and so
Speaker 1: are some of the defensive mens. The mixing and matching
Speaker 1: that they do. So it's asking Tavian to a lot
Speaker 1: to handle, essentially a starting unit defensively with a second
Speaker 1: team offensive line. Which is why I wonder how many
Speaker 1: times Lincoln Keynolts had the better day today, is because
Speaker 1: did he have the first team offensive line? And is
Speaker 1: the reason Julian saying had the better day of the
Speaker 1: next day because he had the first team offensive line.
Speaker 1: You saw some of the same stuff with Devin bright
Speaker 1: On a comm accord and right now, what we really
Speaker 1: haven't seen much of is in the past, when they
Speaker 1: would do two offensive lines, it would just be a
Speaker 1: completely mix and match. Right now, it seems like they're
Speaker 1: still working to find their their top five, so they
Speaker 1: don't want to do too much mixing until they know,
Speaker 1: you know, before they know who that's going to be.
Speaker 1: And I guess that can take us right into the
Speaker 1: next unanswered question, which is basically Ian Moore versus Josh
Speaker 1: Padilla in terms of being one of those top five
Speaker 1: and they are not competing for the same position. It's
Speaker 1: just a matter of ise Ian Moore at left tackle
Speaker 1: and Austin Sierraveld at right guard better than Josh Padilla
Speaker 1: at right guard in Austin Seerveld at left tackle. The
Speaker 1: first day though, Tom when we saw Austin Seerveld at
Speaker 1: left tackle or Ian Moore at left tackle and Austin
Speaker 1: Seerveld at right guard, it was kind of a little nod.
Speaker 1: But now it's up to Josh Padilla to turn the
Speaker 1: nod into like, no.
Speaker 3: Wait, nothing is settled yet, and I think that they are.
Speaker 3: You get this senor leaning towards Ian Moore as the
Speaker 3: left tackle right now, and I think you've seen enough
Speaker 3: positive stuff there that I think that that is probably
Speaker 3: going to at least be a.
Speaker 2: Viable solution there. But they are not.
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem in any huge rush to make a decision.
Speaker 3: One thing that it kind of jumped out to me
Speaker 3: was going back and listening to Ryan Day talk about
Speaker 3: the offensive line, you know, shuffle, when who's going to
Speaker 3: be the best five and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: This was Thursday, after the first practice of the fall.
Speaker 2: You know, we're talking about.
Speaker 3: Is it going to be Ian Moore at left tackle
Speaker 3: and Austin Seravel at right guard or Austin Seerveld at
Speaker 3: left tackle and Josh Prittia at right guard.
Speaker 2: And Ryan Day brought up Philip Daniel's name as well.
Speaker 3: So I think there's a possibility that the best five
Speaker 3: is Austin Serrea and Ian Moore at the tackle positions
Speaker 3: and Josh Vidia at right guard.
Speaker 2: Like that's a possibility.
Speaker 3: I'm not expecting that that's that's certainly not where I
Speaker 3: think it's most likely to land. But I also don't
Speaker 3: think this is a purely binary thing. Is it Joshvidia
Speaker 3: or is it Ian Moore. I think there's other possibilities
Speaker 3: at least on the table here, and they're going to
Speaker 3: take their time and they're going to explore this. But
Speaker 3: my expectation would be by the end of this upcoming
Speaker 3: week or maybe early the following week, so Monday, Tuesday,
Speaker 3: something like that of the following week, so that would
Speaker 3: be something like the seventeenth, eighteenth, give or take of August.
Speaker 3: I think at that point they're going to want to
Speaker 3: know who their best five is. But I think they're
Speaker 3: probably gonna take a little more time and explore things
Speaker 3: just to make sure they know they have the right answer.
Speaker 1: The good news is they have options. It's it's always
Speaker 1: bad news when well, we're going to move a defensive
Speaker 1: linement over to see if he can compete, or we're
Speaker 1: gonna bulk up this tight end, which we've seen over
Speaker 1: the years at Ohio State and now, when they've moved
Speaker 1: a defensive end or a defensive tackle over to offensive line,
Speaker 1: it has generally worked well enough. I mean, they won
Speaker 1: a national title with Darryl Baldwin as a tackle, and
Speaker 1: we saw Chase Ferris do well. We've seen Joel Hall
Speaker 1: go back and forth from offense to defense. So it's
Speaker 1: not the worst thing in the world, but it's always
Speaker 1: better when you don't have to learn to play a
Speaker 1: new position. You just you were born an offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: You'll die an offensive linemen, and in the middle you'll
Speaker 1: figure out where you fit on the Ohio State offensive line.
Speaker 1: The last question, and there are more. The last question
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about today is we have seen
Speaker 1: nothing from Kyle Parker at receiver yet. Now he's been
Speaker 1: coming back from an injury. They're bringing him along and
Speaker 1: I was there Saturday, and you know, they're doing all
Speaker 1: their stretching and then it's like, all right, it's time
Speaker 1: for practice, and Kyle Parker basically just heads inside because
Speaker 1: now it's like I've got to go do what I
Speaker 1: can do and we still need to see him. And
Speaker 1: you know, he had some positive buzz coming out of
Speaker 1: the spring and into the summer, and so i'd like
Speaker 1: to see some of that on the field now. Tom
Speaker 1: I was way way you would say overboard talking about
Speaker 1: Devin McEwan and then you're there on Saturday, and it's
Speaker 1: like Devin ickewen dropped a couple of passes, did not
Speaker 1: did not live up to what he did before. I
Speaker 1: won't say didn't live up to the hype. It wasn't hype,
Speaker 1: it was fact. It happened. We all saw it. But
Speaker 1: it would be good for Kyle Parker to have some
Speaker 1: of those days in the very near future.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he needs to get out there and be healthy
Speaker 3: as soon as he possibly can, because yeah, the season
Speaker 3: is still almost four weeks away, a little under four
Speaker 3: weeks away. But you gotta get out there and you
Speaker 3: gotta be you gotta be healthy, and you gotta start
Speaker 3: building timing and all that kind of stuff, and you
Speaker 3: got to show that you've got to earn a spot
Speaker 3: in that rotation because you know, you know, the Jeremiah
Speaker 3: Smith spot is spoken for, and you would assume Brandon
Speaker 3: Innes is not going to be the easiest guy in
Speaker 3: the world to unseat in the slot.
Speaker 2: And then Devin McEwen.
Speaker 3: We went into the fall saying Devin McEwen and Kyle
Speaker 3: Parker somewhat interchangeably, and Parker could play inside.
Speaker 2: Parker could play outside.
Speaker 3: You know, where where is he going to fit in
Speaker 3: and right now you're just sort of saying, Devin McEwen
Speaker 3: and Kyle Parker is just watching, and you know, if
Speaker 3: you hurt, you're heard, there's nothing you can.
Speaker 2: Do about that other than just get healthy.
Speaker 3: But you're also hearing enough about some of the younger guys,
Speaker 3: particularly Chris Henry Junior and Brock Boyd, that they want
Speaker 3: to find five or six guys that they can rely
Speaker 3: on this year to at least be rotational guys. My
Speaker 3: sense is that those two of those freshmen are going
Speaker 3: to at least be in that conversation. And so now
Speaker 3: you've got to you know, Kyle Parker is looking ahead
Speaker 3: of him at the guys you know, like Devin McEwan
Speaker 3: and Brandon Innis, but he's also kind of got to
Speaker 3: be checking his shoulder a little bit for those freshmen
Speaker 3: because objects and mirror maybe closer than they appear in
Speaker 3: some cases.
Speaker 2: So you know, this is again, this is.
Speaker 3: Nothing that Kyle Parker has done wrong. So you guys
Speaker 3: miss time in fall camp. That is a thing that
Speaker 3: happened on every team every single season. But it would
Speaker 3: it would certainly be really really good for Kyle Parker
Speaker 3: and really really good for the ohis state wide receiver room.
Speaker 2: If he was back out there.
Speaker 3: And you could really sort of figure out what do
Speaker 3: you you know, what do you really have there and
Speaker 3: where do these pieces really fit best together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he left LSU to come to ohiose
Speaker 1: debut with Cortez Hankton. You know, he's itching to get
Speaker 1: out there and show everybody. We saw Legend Bay on
Speaker 1: his first practice running really hard, like wanting to just
Speaker 1: get back out there. So you know, Kyle Parker dealing
Speaker 1: with what he's dealing with. Once he gets out there,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be feisty as heck and trying to make
Speaker 1: plays all over the place, and it would be good
Speaker 1: to see what happens. Interesting to see what happens from that.
Speaker 1: But his versatility, his ability to perhaps make guys miss well,
Speaker 1: you look at him, and I've said it before, he's
Speaker 1: five ten, one ninety five. He looks like a running back.
Speaker 1: So he's not a good that you're necessarily going to
Speaker 1: bring down with an arm tackle after the catch. It's
Speaker 1: just a matter of what are they doing with them.
Speaker 1: I think we're going to see some screens with him,
Speaker 1: screens with Devin mcew and some quicker, shorter stuff to
Speaker 1: allow them to use that burst in that run. Although
Speaker 1: based on what I saw from Devin McEwan, he does
Speaker 1: not need to just be a short pass guy. He
Speaker 1: can stretch the field. And you know, I'm interested to
Speaker 1: see if Kyle Parker can. He did it a little
Speaker 1: bit at LSU, but I don't know that that's his
Speaker 1: role with Ohio State. But again, we don't know what
Speaker 1: his role is because we haven't yet seen him. But
Speaker 1: we are talking about this and more over at Buckeye
Speaker 1: Insiders dot com. Like I said, we've got some other
Speaker 1: intel there as well about how things are going at
Speaker 1: practice and what we're hearing and what we're seeing and
Speaker 1: all of that. So if any of that kind of
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