WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:05.160 The following presentation is a Al Marvis Studio's production. 2 00:00:23.199 --> 00:00:29.480 When you look me on the sky, do you feel 3 00:00:29.600 --> 00:00:30.960 the poll question? 4 00:00:31.640 --> 00:00:40.719 Why the stories told and left behind in shadows? 5 00:00:40.840 --> 00:00:42.799 Where the truth we find? 6 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:51.399 They built their tails on grafts and lives on theories. 7 00:00:51.520 --> 00:00:54.399 They stake their designed. 8 00:00:55.520 --> 00:01:03.640 Put down here on this solid the answer screen. They're 9 00:01:03.679 --> 00:01:11.400 all around, rise and break through all the lies. 10 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:15.040 The fat Files on fall. 11 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:19.159 The page is repealing truth. 12 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:20.480 That shift. 13 00:01:20.840 --> 00:01:26.680 The stage is from the firm moments on high and 14 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:32.560 right to the dowstat boom in the deed of night. 15 00:01:36.519 --> 00:01:40.239 Welcome back truth seekers from around the world. It's time 16 00:01:40.280 --> 00:01:44.319 for another edition of the Flat Earth Files. I hope 17 00:01:44.319 --> 00:01:48.840 this podcast finds everyone well, happy and healthy as we 18 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:51.760 continue to make our way through bizarre world. And it's 19 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:54.760 hard to believe another month is closing out. We'll be 20 00:01:54.760 --> 00:01:58.159 in September before you know it. 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And of course that email address will 32 00:02:36.919 --> 00:02:43.080 be embedded in the show notes and the website as well. 33 00:02:43.759 --> 00:02:46.680 And without any further ado, let's bring on. Today's guest 34 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:50.840 joining me from Pennsylvania is John. John, how are you 35 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:51.479 doing today, sir? 36 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:54.319 I'm doing great, George, thanks for having me on. 37 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:56.639 Yeah, thank you so much for a green to come on. 38 00:02:56.879 --> 00:03:01.360 And I know it's been a while. Uh it's I'm 39 00:03:01.400 --> 00:03:03.479 just glad to finally get you on the podcast and 40 00:03:03.520 --> 00:03:06.080 share your story. And with that being said, why don't 41 00:03:06.120 --> 00:03:07.879 you go ahead and tell the audience a little bit 42 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:08.560 about yourself. 43 00:03:09.120 --> 00:03:13.199 Absolutely, I am thirty eight years old. I live in 44 00:03:13.319 --> 00:03:19.879 southeastern Pennsylvania, right outside of Philadelphia, born and raised. You know, 45 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:23.319 I am a married father of a ten year old 46 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:27.759 girl and a seven year old boy. So you know, 47 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:30.280 I have my hands full, man, just trying to run 48 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:36.120 the rat race. You know, I had a pretty normal 49 00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:39.439 upbringing to parent household. I went to Catholic school as 50 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:43.080 a child. You know, ironically, I don't think we opened 51 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:46.840 our Bibles once in Catholic school through grade eight, and 52 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:49.400 then I went to public school for high school. 53 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:54.080 That's really interesting. I mean that shouldn't be glossed over. 54 00:03:54.199 --> 00:03:56.360 You were in a private Catholic school from most eight 55 00:03:56.400 --> 00:04:00.280 years and you rarely opened a Bible. You know. I 56 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:02.840 went to a private school in Wilmington, Delaware, just you know, 57 00:04:02.879 --> 00:04:05.039 half an hour south of you, and we had a 58 00:04:05.080 --> 00:04:08.039 Bible Bible class every day, and I think Wednesdays we 59 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:10.719 had chapel. That that's very interesting. 60 00:04:12.759 --> 00:04:16.079 School is. I think it's a step better than the 61 00:04:16.120 --> 00:04:21.000 public education system for sure. But you know, the religious 62 00:04:21.040 --> 00:04:24.839 curriculum there is very word of mouth. You're just expected to, 63 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:28.120 you know, take everything at face value that you hear. 64 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:31.959 In Catholic grade school, you know, we went to church 65 00:04:32.040 --> 00:04:37.040 once a month, we made our sacraments, communion, confession, confirmation. 66 00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:42.519 But you know, trying to like, you know, think of 67 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:46.920 my earliest moment of actually believing I was going to 68 00:04:46.920 --> 00:04:49.519 spend eternity with Jesus. That definitely didn't come to later 69 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:54.399 in life. Yeah, I think we never opened our bibles 70 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:57.480 once in Catholic school, it was just a religious curriculum 71 00:04:57.519 --> 00:05:00.800 where you know, we learned about saying and we learned 72 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:02.959 about you know, faith through works. 73 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:06.959 Basically gotch that is interesting indeed. And then you went 74 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:08.319 to a public high school. 75 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:12.160 I went to a public high school. Yeah, so pretty 76 00:05:12.199 --> 00:05:15.720 normal experience there. You know, I played sports, you know, 77 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:18.480 kind of just blended in with my circle of friends. 78 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:21.519 I was a pretty decent student. I was one of 79 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:23.600 those students that didn't have to study too much to 80 00:05:23.879 --> 00:05:28.519 do well on tests. Took a lot of advanced classes 81 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:32.959 once I got into my junior and senior year, though, 82 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:36.480 I think my social life and partying kind of took 83 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:39.920 precedents over you know, school work. So you know, I 84 00:05:39.959 --> 00:05:42.680 was expected to go to college, and you know I was. 85 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:46.600 I was, you know, all set to go, and you know, 86 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:50.240 I spent a year at Westchester University here in southeast Pennsylvania, 87 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:55.399 but quickly quickly realized that my passions were you know, 88 00:05:55.480 --> 00:05:58.639 not school work for sure, So you know, very quickly 89 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:01.800 decided that that college wasn't for me and took to working. 90 00:06:02.920 --> 00:06:06.079 Yeah. I think that's fair. I think most young men, 91 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:09.040 especially when you get to high school, the studies kind 92 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:11.959 of fall back to the wayside, and social life and 93 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:14.800 girls and those other things kind of take precedence. I 94 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:17.600 think that's completely normal, one hundred percent, and I think 95 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:19.839 there's a lot of people out there. I didn't go 96 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:23.680 to college till later in life. I personally, and I'm 97 00:06:23.759 --> 00:06:28.199 just speaking for myself, I couldn't. I enjoyed the experience 98 00:06:28.199 --> 00:06:30.839 of being in school and the friends and the I 99 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:35.920 played soccer and baseball, and you know, the sporting side 100 00:06:35.959 --> 00:06:38.959 of it. But being in a chair for eight hours 101 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:40.839 a day and just waiting for the bell to ring 102 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:44.399 for me was torture. It wasn't. The actual education side 103 00:06:44.439 --> 00:06:47.480 of it wasn't pleasant. When I used to have conversations 104 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:50.480 with my grandfather and how their school day was, and 105 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:53.600 it was based around tending to the field first, and 106 00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:55.279 then they'd go to school for a few hours to 107 00:06:55.319 --> 00:06:57.399 come back and work because they had to feed themselves. 108 00:06:57.399 --> 00:06:58.920 They didn't go to the grocery store. It was a 109 00:06:58.920 --> 00:06:59.560 different world. 110 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:04.720 Yeah, you learned how to survive before you you know, 111 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:08.000 figured out what you're calling was in life. I think 112 00:07:08.040 --> 00:07:11.120 that's a big problem today is you know, we're just 113 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:13.360 we're just groomed from the get go to to kind 114 00:07:13.399 --> 00:07:16.879 of run through the public education system and you know, 115 00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:21.759 either either do a trade or get in get into college. 116 00:07:21.800 --> 00:07:24.160 And you know, college these days is such a joke. 117 00:07:24.199 --> 00:07:26.680 I mean, you put yourself in monumental amounts of debt 118 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:30.000 to uh, you know, half the time, these kids don't 119 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:31.000 even know what they want to do. 120 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:34.319 One hundred percent. I mean I didn't know what I 121 00:07:34.319 --> 00:07:36.399 wanted to do when I was seventeen or eighteen, you know, 122 00:07:38.079 --> 00:07:38.519 for sure. 123 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:43.439 Funny enough, you know my professional I'm a financial analyst, uh, 124 00:07:43.959 --> 00:07:46.839 you know for a pretty large company, which you know, 125 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:52.480 I basically work my way through you know, experience to 126 00:07:52.759 --> 00:07:54.560 get to the role on that now, you know, and 127 00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:56.720 I feel, you know, maybe eventually I'll go back to 128 00:07:56.759 --> 00:08:01.079 school and get a relevant degree. But I you know, 129 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:04.240 my advice to a lot of young folks would be to, 130 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:07.959 you know, just get some real world experience first, see 131 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:09.800 see what you're good at. 132 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:13.279 That's a great that's great advice. That is really great advice. 133 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:17.879 You mentioned that I think it was around twenty eighteen 134 00:08:17.959 --> 00:08:20.839 is when you started to be familiar with flat earth. 135 00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:26.720 Between you know, high school and twenty eighteen, were there 136 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:29.920 any events when you think back that kind of raised 137 00:08:29.920 --> 00:08:34.039 red flags as to what we are taught versus what 138 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:35.159 you perceived in the world. 139 00:08:36.679 --> 00:08:39.879 Yeah, I think my first rebellion was really with you know, 140 00:08:40.879 --> 00:08:43.240 had I had a mother that wanted to make sure 141 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:46.360 that we went to Mass every weekend. And you know, 142 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:49.039 once I got to like, you know, my early teenage years, 143 00:08:49.080 --> 00:08:51.200 that became a fight. It was like, why you know 144 00:08:51.240 --> 00:08:54.600 I didn't I wasn't getting anything from it. So, you know, 145 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:57.919 at that point in my life, you know, like you 146 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:01.679 mentioned that the social aspect earls the sports, just the 147 00:09:02.200 --> 00:09:06.120 atteening status among your peers. You know that that is 148 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:09.919 ninety nine percent of my priority at that time. So 149 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:13.759 you know, I really didn't think twice about my faith. 150 00:09:14.279 --> 00:09:18.360 You know, towards my later teenage years of my early twenties, 151 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:21.679 I fell into addiction to alcohol. So I spent many 152 00:09:21.759 --> 00:09:25.759 years basically you know, living a hard and fast life, 153 00:09:25.919 --> 00:09:29.000 you know, not taking care of myself. And you know, 154 00:09:29.080 --> 00:09:33.879 I finally, you know, I worked at a local YMCA, 155 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:39.000 and you know my boss there, you know twenty at 156 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:42.360 this point in time, twenty years ago, he slowly became 157 00:09:42.399 --> 00:09:44.240 my best friend. He was a mentor to me. He 158 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:48.799 knew I needed you know, he's about fifteen years my senior. 159 00:09:49.080 --> 00:09:51.159 So you know, he saw a lot, I guess, a 160 00:09:51.159 --> 00:09:54.559 lot of himself and me, and he basically called it, 161 00:09:54.639 --> 00:09:57.080 he called what would happen in my life before it 162 00:09:57.080 --> 00:10:02.000 would happen, you know, wrecking cars, you know, getting completely 163 00:10:02.000 --> 00:10:05.200 addicted to alcohol, needing to go to rehab. He told 164 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:07.559 me I was heading down that path well before it happened. 165 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:12.200 And that's exactly what happened, George. So you know, I 166 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:17.039 guess probably in the late two thousands, two thousand and eight, 167 00:10:17.080 --> 00:10:21.120 two thousand and nine, probably I you know, I mean 168 00:10:21.159 --> 00:10:24.159 my first attempt to get clean from from alcohol. And 169 00:10:25.559 --> 00:10:29.320 it was around that time that you know, I happened 170 00:10:29.320 --> 00:10:32.720 to just be out with, you know, the gentleman who 171 00:10:32.759 --> 00:10:34.840 was my boss the why. His name's Jim and he's 172 00:10:34.840 --> 00:10:39.279 now probably my closest and dearest friend. We were out 173 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:41.799 doing some volunteer work in a Baptist church out in 174 00:10:42.120 --> 00:10:45.679 you know, out in the Downingtown towards Lancaster area in Pennsylvania, 175 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:47.919 and you know, we were just top of them with 176 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:50.039 some repairs in the facility they were going to use 177 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:54.080 for basically a Christian school, and one of the young 178 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:56.519 kids there, pulled me aside and asked me if I 179 00:10:56.600 --> 00:11:00.200 was sived. I said, what do you mean? And he said, well, 180 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:02.000 you know, do you know that you're going to spend 181 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:05.519 eternity with Jesus? I said, I said, I'm Catholic. You know, 182 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:08.679 I made all my sacraments. He's like nine, he took 183 00:11:08.720 --> 00:11:11.320 the time. This was probably a twelve year old kid. 184 00:11:12.120 --> 00:11:16.639 I'm about twenty years old. I'm completely oblivious to everything. 185 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:18.840 And he pulled me aside and he showed me the 186 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:20.600 black and white and the Bible kind of let me 187 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:24.120 down Roman's road. And that's when it hit me, like 188 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:28.399 a sack of bricks. I realized that, you know, I 189 00:11:28.519 --> 00:11:31.480 was wrong that whole time. So you know, I quickly 190 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:35.679 accepted Christ. You know, I said the Sinner's prayer, and 191 00:11:36.519 --> 00:11:39.840 you know that's when I really feel like the spirit 192 00:11:39.879 --> 00:11:41.919 of discernment came upon me. So I say all that 193 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:44.759 basically to get back to your question of I feel 194 00:11:44.759 --> 00:11:48.159 like once I was saved, I started to become more 195 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:57.200 aware of my surroundings, what I was absorbing, what society, 196 00:11:57.679 --> 00:12:00.720 societal norms where I was expected to would here too. 197 00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:07.399 I I want to say, like, like conspiracy theories always 198 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:09.799 interested me from the time I was, you know, a 199 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:14.279 young adult until present. So, you know, the moon landing, 200 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:17.519 I think way back in the early two thousands, I 201 00:12:17.519 --> 00:12:20.320 think even like Fox twenty nine, Fox at Night had 202 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:22.399 had a show about that we really landed the Moon, 203 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:25.639 and they presented pretty pretty substantial evidence at that point 204 00:12:25.679 --> 00:12:28.519 in time and on mainstream TV, which was enough for 205 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:33.200 me to be like, yeah, we didn't go no. But 206 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:35.759 between that and then I went down the you know, 207 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:39.080 the nine to eleven rabbit hole, and you know, Jeff 208 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:42.679 Field doesn't know steel beams. You know, if you if 209 00:12:42.679 --> 00:12:45.679 you watch the actual footage of the buildings collapsing, you 210 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:49.840 see the deatonation charges going off, you know, the flashing 211 00:12:49.840 --> 00:12:51.360 all throughout the structure. 212 00:12:53.159 --> 00:12:56.440 You know, ships coming out the windows, the gentleman on 213 00:12:56.480 --> 00:12:59.200 the bottom who came out who you know, heard the 214 00:12:59.240 --> 00:13:01.879 explosions at the ground floor, in the basement level, and 215 00:13:02.399 --> 00:13:04.399 just everything about it. You know, if there's one or 216 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:08.000 two coincidences, that's one thing, But I mean there's hundreds 217 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:11.799 of them, and it's just everything from Building seven to 218 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:15.200 all the documents affiliated to Enron and the Oklahoma City 219 00:13:15.240 --> 00:13:18.919 Building and a lot of financial crimes committed those documents 220 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:22.080 were in Building seven. Lucky Larry Silverstein. 221 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:26.000 It just took out his insurance policy. Yeah, and you know, he. 222 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:29.320 Just happened to have a skin doctor's appointment that day. 223 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:31.399 It's just and the same with everything else. And the 224 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:33.240 thing that gets me going back to the moon landing, 225 00:13:34.039 --> 00:13:36.480 there's a post that always pops up on social media, 226 00:13:36.519 --> 00:13:40.080 and that's the moon rover, which had like two lawn 227 00:13:40.159 --> 00:13:44.399 shares and four Michelin tires. And I forget the price. Dog. 228 00:13:44.399 --> 00:13:45.840 I don't want to quote it because I know it's wrong, 229 00:13:45.879 --> 00:13:49.320 but it's an insane amount of money for what they charge, 230 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:52.759 which for you could probably build a with Junkyard material 231 00:13:53.399 --> 00:13:55.799 for probably five hundred dollars and that really goes to 232 00:13:55.879 --> 00:13:59.759 show and you know, my gosh, it's really hard to 233 00:13:59.799 --> 00:14:03.639 pin point one thing, one lie, one deceit that we 234 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:06.279 we are fed on a daily basis and try to 235 00:14:06.279 --> 00:14:08.039 pin it down. But the amount of money that goes 236 00:14:08.080 --> 00:14:12.519 to NASA and to all these just black holes, it's 237 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:13.360 just absurd. 238 00:14:14.440 --> 00:14:17.440 That's definitely, you know, the the NASA budgets definitely where 239 00:14:17.519 --> 00:14:19.559 you know, you hear you hear of the you know, 240 00:14:19.639 --> 00:14:23.720 the black budget that that money we're given a NASA 241 00:14:23.840 --> 00:14:27.799 definitely gets allocated for their their projects, but that disappears 242 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:31.360 into uh, you know, enriching the real powers that be 243 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:32.080 in the world for. 244 00:14:32.039 --> 00:14:35.000 Sure, one hundred percent with money comes power and then 245 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:38.960 that you know, that's how these these families, these few people, 246 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:43.039 whether it be the military, medical, or oil industrial complex. 247 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:46.559 Uh via Vanguarden black Rock has just bought up ninety 248 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:47.399 percent of the world. 249 00:14:49.039 --> 00:14:50.919 Yeah, going back to the Moon landing, I mean you 250 00:14:50.919 --> 00:14:53.639 look at the loun you know, the lunar lander, just 251 00:14:53.720 --> 00:14:56.080 pieces of duct tape and tinfoil with a couple of 252 00:14:56.080 --> 00:14:59.240 metal spokes at the bottom. You know, you watch that 253 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:01.720 thing take off. They have you know, the little sparklers 254 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:04.600 at the bottom. Like it's like, you know, we're led 255 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:07.159 to believe that that thing used the Moon's gravity to 256 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:11.240 wrap around and launch back to Earth precisely and land 257 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:15.159 in the ocean. You know, you know, you look at 258 00:15:15.159 --> 00:15:17.759 the thing just like just like the rover you mentioned, 259 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:20.480 the thing looks like a total like a five year 260 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:22.039 old put it together in our class. 261 00:15:23.480 --> 00:15:25.639 Yeah, and that's the thing. Maybe in sixty nine and 262 00:15:25.679 --> 00:15:28.720 seventy two, you know, CGI and everything was so terrible 263 00:15:28.720 --> 00:15:31.600 that people bought it. But looking back, now especially. I 264 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:33.480 think the one we talked about, the Lunar Lander, the 265 00:15:33.559 --> 00:15:34.960 one where it goes, I think that one was from 266 00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:37.799 seventy two. It looks like something out of a terrible 267 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:40.519 nineteen fifties B movie, and we still just eat it 268 00:15:40.600 --> 00:15:43.600 up and people defend it staunchly. As to this day. 269 00:15:45.039 --> 00:15:47.200 It's infuriating. It's so hard that you just want to 270 00:15:47.240 --> 00:15:50.000 shake people. You know, Nixon said it himself. He said 271 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:52.480 Americans won't believe anything until they see it on TV. 272 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:56.320 So I just googled it because I wanted to fact 273 00:15:56.399 --> 00:16:00.919 check myself. That moon Rover cost four hundred and fifty 274 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:03.000 million dollars. 275 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:05.080 Buy an island for that. 276 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:10.360 Four hundred and fifty This is in nineteen sixty nine, John, 277 00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:10.759 When you. 278 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:12.840 Go that's billions of dollars in today's money. 279 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:14.960 That didn't cost more than five hundred dollars to put 280 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:18.399 together an upside down umbrella, some tires, a frame from 281 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:20.919 a car, lawn chair seats and they and some gold 282 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:23.279 spray pant or whatever they use. And again, back in 283 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:24.799 the day, it was black and white, so that it 284 00:16:24.879 --> 00:16:27.720 didn't really have to go you know, beyond and above 285 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:30.519 to to make it look you know, colorful or anything 286 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:30.879 like that. 287 00:16:32.879 --> 00:16:37.159 Oh yeah, you know teachers, you know, kids were seeing 288 00:16:37.159 --> 00:16:39.879 it in the classroom. The phone call is my favorite part, 289 00:16:40.039 --> 00:16:42.200 you know, the phone call the Nixon when they're on 290 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:46.000 the moon. Yeah, with the technology they had then, and 291 00:16:46.039 --> 00:16:48.919 then and then the uh you know, poor cameraman we 292 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:52.039 left up there for to watch the lander teak back 293 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:53.159 off and head back to Earth. 294 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:55.639 Yeah, you know, he should have got a medal of 295 00:16:55.679 --> 00:16:58.559 honor or something. You know, I never hear his name mentioned. 296 00:16:58.519 --> 00:17:00.759 It's just astonishing to me, poor guy. 297 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:04.960 Yeah, we can barely broadcast you know, a couple of 298 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:09.119 states away today, yet you know, we sent a wireless 299 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:12.359 television signal from the moon two hundred two hundred and 300 00:17:12.400 --> 00:17:14.960 thirty thousand miles away, exactly. 301 00:17:16.480 --> 00:17:20.720 It is absurd. Now, I think you've mentioned that your mentor, 302 00:17:21.720 --> 00:17:23.880 he was the one that actually started telling you about 303 00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:26.640 flood Earth, right or at least yeah. 304 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:29.559 Really Yeah, So he's been telling me for probably six 305 00:17:29.680 --> 00:17:33.880 years now. And you know I was. I was into 306 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:38.400 every single conspiracy out there, George I. I you know, 307 00:17:38.519 --> 00:17:42.400 I I've realized nine to eleven. I realized the Oklahoma 308 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:46.039 City bombing, I realized the moon landing. You know, probably 309 00:17:46.039 --> 00:17:48.440 about fifteen years ago, my dad had me sit down 310 00:17:48.440 --> 00:17:51.240 and watch like a little a little YouTube video on 311 00:17:51.319 --> 00:17:55.079 the basically the history of Fiat currency and the whole rothschild, 312 00:17:55.880 --> 00:18:00.119 you know, involvement in developing our money system today. And 313 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:03.480 you know that clicked to me like crazy. The next 314 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:09.640 one was, remember when Zeitgeist came out on Netflix? Yes, 315 00:18:10.640 --> 00:18:13.079 around that time, I was about fifteen or so years ago, 316 00:18:13.319 --> 00:18:16.200 maybe a little longer. At that point in time, Netflix 317 00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:20.119 had some gold on there, absolutely old truth material, and 318 00:18:20.440 --> 00:18:23.400 I remember watching one. It was about JFK. It was 319 00:18:24.720 --> 00:18:31.240 I the title escapes me, but I basically it threw 320 00:18:31.759 --> 00:18:35.720 it drew the lines that that rolled right up to H. W. 321 00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:41.039 Bush as as basically the the mastermind behind it all 322 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:45.680 absolutely and what his daddy, Prescott funded both sides of 323 00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:46.400 World War two. 324 00:18:46.640 --> 00:18:47.039 Indeed. 325 00:18:49.279 --> 00:18:51.599 So you know, so I was, I was in tune 326 00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:57.200 with truth. But I remember Jim telling me. You know, 327 00:18:57.480 --> 00:19:00.640 he asked me if I know about the Firmament. That's 328 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:03.279 around twenty eighteen, and I said no. He said, well, 329 00:19:03.319 --> 00:19:05.920 read your Bible. He said, it's on the first page. 330 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:09.359 I remember reading it. At the time, I just texting, 331 00:19:09.400 --> 00:19:12.079 I'm asking him what he's talking about and you know, 332 00:19:12.160 --> 00:19:14.359 that's when he kind of went into the truth about 333 00:19:14.359 --> 00:19:17.279 the Earth being flat, and you know, I wrote him off. 334 00:19:17.480 --> 00:19:20.440 I thought he was trolling me, you know, for years. 335 00:19:20.559 --> 00:19:24.839 I spent the next six years up until last fall, 336 00:19:26.039 --> 00:19:30.440 basically awake to every truth out there except the true 337 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:37.599 nature of our realm, you know, the whole COVID thing that, 338 00:19:37.720 --> 00:19:42.599 you know, the Q conspiracy, well, the Q, the Q movement. Basically, 339 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:46.920 you know, I was pretty awake to that relatively quickly. 340 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:50.000 You know what that really was just a sy oh 341 00:19:50.200 --> 00:19:55.799 but you know so anyway, I spent the last six 342 00:19:55.880 --> 00:19:58.480 years basically still still being a big fan of space. 343 00:19:58.519 --> 00:20:01.880 I love those documents enteries that talk about you know, 344 00:20:02.599 --> 00:20:06.519 quasars and pulsars and black holes and you know, you 345 00:20:06.599 --> 00:20:10.480 name it. I eate it right up. And I don't 346 00:20:10.519 --> 00:20:12.359 know what it was. It was probably a combination of 347 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:15.759 you know, my friend continuing to just try to get 348 00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:18.240 me to wake up. But the moment I had my 349 00:20:18.359 --> 00:20:23.160 epiphany was October seventh of last year. You know, how 350 00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:26.640 many times have we heard Israel basically brag about how 351 00:20:26.680 --> 00:20:29.559 secure their country is. You know, they can pick up 352 00:20:29.799 --> 00:20:33.599 a cockroach with their you know, with their security systems 353 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:37.559 at their borders, and we're led to believe that a 354 00:20:37.559 --> 00:20:42.480 couple hundred you know, Hamas terrorists with you know, motorized 355 00:20:42.519 --> 00:20:44.960 hang gliders and AK forty seven's were able to get 356 00:20:44.960 --> 00:20:47.920 in there, and you know, cause havoc. Like I watched 357 00:20:47.920 --> 00:20:50.359 that in unfold in real time, and I think that 358 00:20:50.519 --> 00:20:53.039 was just the final spark that just clicked in my head. 359 00:20:53.079 --> 00:20:56.759 I said, these people lie about everything, yep. And that 360 00:20:57.319 --> 00:20:59.960 kind of opened me up a little more to kind 361 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:04.000 kind of there's nowhere else to go. Maybe I should 362 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:07.680 spend a little more time diving down the you know, 363 00:21:08.640 --> 00:21:12.359 the Earth is not a ball. And it didn't take 364 00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:17.359 me long. You know, I probably the first material I 365 00:21:17.400 --> 00:21:21.519 probably watched where Eric Debay's truths you know that that 366 00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:24.960 Earth is not a spinning globe. You know, some of 367 00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:30.359 the materials Sean Hibler put together the Level movies, the 368 00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:32.720 one that the one I really ate up well, the 369 00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:35.440 one that really opened my eyes, I should say, was 370 00:21:36.079 --> 00:21:37.480 you familiar with you are on? 371 00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:38.400 Of course? 372 00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:38.680 Yeah? 373 00:21:38.759 --> 00:21:39.440 Yeah. 374 00:21:39.640 --> 00:21:44.559 He put together about an eight hour long yep. But 375 00:21:44.599 --> 00:21:46.759 then there was a sequel where he did What on 376 00:21:46.839 --> 00:21:49.839 Earth Happened, which was all about the uh basically the 377 00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:54.680 Tartarian conspiracy and went a little deeper into you know, 378 00:21:55.359 --> 00:21:58.640 the Lost History and whatnot. But the thing with him 379 00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:00.519 that that really got me. I don't know if you 380 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:03.359 ever watched those to the end, when in the last 381 00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:06.400 five minutes, after you're sixteen hours invested into it, he 382 00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:09.359 basically goes, I have a confession and make I've been 383 00:22:09.440 --> 00:22:12.279 lying this whole time, you know, and I need to 384 00:22:12.599 --> 00:22:14.000 for my sins. 385 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:17.200 And you're like, what, yeah, that was at the end 386 00:22:17.240 --> 00:22:20.880 of the second one, right, that was at the end 387 00:22:20.920 --> 00:22:27.119 of the second one, right, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. 388 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:29.200 I mean everything everything he presented like I knew and 389 00:22:29.279 --> 00:22:32.119 my gut was right, and then and then at the 390 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:34.640 very end, it's like somebody put a gun to his head, 391 00:22:35.319 --> 00:22:36.039 say it's a lie. 392 00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:40.279 Yeah, that's it's so interesting. And he doesn't put out 393 00:22:40.720 --> 00:22:42.720 like a lot of that I know of maybe I'll 394 00:22:42.759 --> 00:22:44.400 have to go back and look, but he puts it. 395 00:22:44.400 --> 00:22:48.039 When he puts out materials, it's these huge type of stories. 396 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:50.359 I mean five six hour I think the Lost History 397 00:22:50.359 --> 00:22:52.160 of Earth was between six and eight hours. 398 00:22:52.680 --> 00:22:54.599 Yeah, but he went into everything. I mean, he went 399 00:22:54.640 --> 00:22:59.000 into the Satanism in Hollywood, just just the preface why 400 00:22:59.119 --> 00:22:59.799 we're being light. 401 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:01.839