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<v Speaker 1>It's with Dan Ray. I'm going easy Boston's News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, My thanks to my guest last hour, Karine Haja,

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<v Speaker 2>Boston Globe editorial writer. And by the way, I hope

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<v Speaker 2>that many of you who listened to the entire hour

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<v Speaker 2>understood the purpose of the interview was to just realize

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<v Speaker 2>that she is in a very interesting position as a

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<v Speaker 2>young conservative twenty you know, graduate of Harvard in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one. She's in her mid twenties and in a

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<v Speaker 2>position of great influence and great impact as a Boston

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<v Speaker 2>and greater Bostonian who now and she's doing very well

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<v Speaker 2>at the Globe, and I commend the Globe for having

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<v Speaker 2>some genuine diversity. I mean somedays some days. And she's

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<v Speaker 2>not an editorial she does write off ed pieces. Uh

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<v Speaker 2>so she isn't she's a she's an opinion writer. But

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<v Speaker 2>she's also involved in the editorial process. And you have

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<v Speaker 2>to understand the mechanics of that. Not only is her

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<v Speaker 2>her byline columns and her opinion columns appear under her name,

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<v Speaker 2>just as they do with Jefter Kobe, or with Scott

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<v Speaker 2>Lehigh or Joan Venaki or any of the other Boston

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<v Speaker 2>Globe columnists who are on the editorial page. Then you

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<v Speaker 2>have the other columnists who are on the Metro page,

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<v Speaker 2>including Adrian Walker, who are not related to the editorial

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<v Speaker 2>comment they are they are pure editorial, that pure columnists

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<v Speaker 2>of their opinion, with their opinions. But to be a

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<v Speaker 2>member of that group that decides what editorial subjects the

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<v Speaker 2>Globe will take, it's a significant position. Now she's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be in the minority a lot, but it is

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<v Speaker 2>a position of great influence and she will be a

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<v Speaker 2>journalistic superstar in my humble opinion, and that's why I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to introduce her to all my audience tonight. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about this shooting on Boyleston Street

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<v Speaker 2>in Boston on Saturday, late Saturday, which has really shaken

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<v Speaker 2>that neighborhood. So I watched the local evening newscast tonight

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<v Speaker 2>who covered the story and covered reaction to it. Boston

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<v Speaker 2>is priding itself on a reduction citywide in terms of homicides,

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<v Speaker 2>which is which is something to be proud of and

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<v Speaker 2>something that the city can it can take pride in,

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<v Speaker 2>and it started under Mayor Walsh and has continued now

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<v Speaker 2>under Mayor wu. The problem that Mayor WU has in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of crime is the crime that has metastasized from

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<v Speaker 2>mass and casts to downtown Boston, down to the downtown

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<v Speaker 2>crossing area down to now is now leaking over into

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<v Speaker 2>Boylston Street. So you had this situation on Saturday night,

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<v Speaker 2>and I hope some of you know about it, but

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<v Speaker 2>for those of you that don't, uh, literally in Copley Square,

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<v Speaker 2>literally in Copley Square, uh, not not far from the

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<v Speaker 2>Copley Plaza Hotel uh and all of the great structures,

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<v Speaker 2>the Boston Public Library, uh and and great you know

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<v Speaker 2>churches and all of that. Next close to Newbury Street,

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<v Speaker 2>there was some sort of a beef that evolved. According

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<v Speaker 2>to all that, and I haven't covered the story, but

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<v Speaker 2>basically watching channels four and five, pretty clear that some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of an argument had occurred on Boyleston Street or

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<v Speaker 2>near Boyleston Street, and a couple of individuals had run

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<v Speaker 2>into the Chick fil A, I assume, figuring that they

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<v Speaker 2>would be safe there, but this individual allegedly followed them

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<v Speaker 2>with a knife, intending to do harm or at least

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<v Speaker 2>threaten And there was an off duty Boston Police officer

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<v Speaker 2>there who had the presence of mind to realize what

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<v Speaker 2>was evolving was a potentially dangerous situation. He put his

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<v Speaker 2>own life on the line through his service rep weapon

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<v Speaker 2>and told this guy to drop the knife. I didn't comply.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I don't know if there was a words exchange.

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<v Speaker 2>I suspect that were but whatever, the police officer ended

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<v Speaker 2>up shooting this guy. And Mayor Wu showed up at

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<v Speaker 2>the shooting scene, which is fine, is certainly well within

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<v Speaker 2>her prerogative. But she made a comment which upset a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people and to me was tone deaf. Rob

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<v Speaker 2>This is this is the statement that the mayor made.

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<v Speaker 2>Cut forty one A. It is in it's more, it's

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<v Speaker 2>in greater context than perhaps folks might have heard. Please

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<v Speaker 2>play cut forty one A. This is Mayor Wu offering

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<v Speaker 2>condolences initially to the family of the individual who was

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<v Speaker 2>shot by the Boston police officer. Now, you can feel

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<v Speaker 2>sorry for any family, but this sounds to me like

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<v Speaker 2>a tone deaf Mayor Wu, or maybe how a Mayor

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<v Speaker 2>Woo actually feels.

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<v Speaker 3>My condolences and all of our thoughts are with the

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<v Speaker 3>family of the individual whose life has been lost. And

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<v Speaker 3>I am also thinking of all the people who were

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<v Speaker 3>impacted here today in one of the busier parts of

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<v Speaker 3>the city with this tragedy. Glad that the officer is

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<v Speaker 3>safe and very grateful for a quick response from all

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<v Speaker 3>of our first responders. Here again, and I'm such an

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<v Speaker 3>active part of Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is an active part of Boston when you

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<v Speaker 2>have people running into fast food stores wielding a knife

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<v Speaker 2>and apparently I'm looking at a piece out of the

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<v Speaker 2>Boston Boston dot Com. Two people were chased inside Chick

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<v Speaker 2>fil A on Boyleston Street around five twenty seven by

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<v Speaker 2>a man armed with a knife, according to Boston Police

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<v Speaker 2>and off duty Boston police officer. This is a story

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<v Speaker 2>by Molly Ferrar in Boston dot Com. Off duty bust

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<v Speaker 2>and police officer shot and killed a man who was

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<v Speaker 2>allegedly wielding a knife inside a restaurant near Boston Back

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<v Speaker 2>Base Copley Square. Saturday, two people were chased inside a

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<v Speaker 2>Chick fil A on Boylston Street by a man armed

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<v Speaker 2>with a knife, and off duty officer who was at

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<v Speaker 2>the restaurant identified himself as a police officer, told the

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<v Speaker 2>man to drop his weapon. This according to Police Commissioner

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Cox. The man who has not been identified. He

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<v Speaker 2>was identified today allegedly did not comply. The off duty

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<v Speaker 2>officer then shot the man, who was later pronounced that

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<v Speaker 2>at a local hospital. The officer was also transported to

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital to be evaluated, and there are no other

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<v Speaker 2>reported injuries. Cox says, we don't look for loss of life,

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<v Speaker 2>so our condolences go to the individual who was killed tonight. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>why would Michael Cox say that, I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>understand it. We're proud of the police officers who activate themselves,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's on duty or off duty, to try to

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<v Speaker 2>save all lives, but to lead with the comment about condolences,

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<v Speaker 2>it almost sounded like the guy that the police officer

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<v Speaker 2>shot was considered a victim. I mean, he's dead. I

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<v Speaker 2>get it. Sad for him, sad for his family, but

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<v Speaker 2>thank god there was someone there who interrupted him. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't assume and let the investigation go forth, that the

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<v Speaker 2>police officer woke up that morning and said, man, I

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<v Speaker 2>hope I get an opportunity today to kill some guy

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<v Speaker 2>who might be willed a knife and a Chick fil A. No,

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<v Speaker 2>that wasn't it at all, and it shows that not

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<v Speaker 2>only the mayor, but now apparently the police commissioner. It

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<v Speaker 2>says all of the officials, including some founding District Attorney

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Naden, whose office will leave the investigation, said Mayor Wu.

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<v Speaker 2>And Mayor Wu also spoke at the press conference. All

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<v Speaker 2>of the officials offered theirs is to the family and

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<v Speaker 2>friends of the man killed. I mean, is there something

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<v Speaker 2>that that is tone deaf about that to you? Or

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<v Speaker 2>am I am I reading something into it that shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be read into it. I'm going to open up phone

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<v Speaker 2>line six one seven, two, five, four to ten thirty

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<v Speaker 2>six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. Why is

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<v Speaker 2>it that we need to be so politically correct that

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<v Speaker 2>an individual. I mean, if if some police officer in Dallas,

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<v Speaker 2>Texas in nineteen sixty three had walked in to the

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<v Speaker 2>Texas school Book Depository and saw Oswald in the window

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<v Speaker 2>about to fire at the presidential motorcade. He told Oswald

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<v Speaker 2>to drop his gun, and Oswald refused, and the officer

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<v Speaker 2>killed him. I mean, if there was a Secret Service

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<v Speaker 2>agent in Butler, Pennsylvania, who was observant enough to see

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<v Speaker 2>the guy, the twenty year old crawling on a belly

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<v Speaker 2>on the roof of that shed that was about one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty yards away, or one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>feet away from the presidential stand where president then candidate Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>former President Trump was speaking. If that agent from a

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<v Speaker 2>distance realized what this guy was trying to do, Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Cook I think was his name, and he popped him

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<v Speaker 2>and prevented that shot from being fired, would we be

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<v Speaker 2>offering condolences to the family of the individual who was

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<v Speaker 2>attempting to assassinate a presidential candidate? What's wrong with us?

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<v Speaker 2>What's wrong with the people who were electing and the

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<v Speaker 2>people who were serving in public office who their first

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<v Speaker 2>reaction is to be so politically correct? I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, our support is for the police officer

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<v Speaker 2>who was placed in a very difficult situation who responded

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<v Speaker 2>professionally and saved lives. We're not happy that someone died.

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<v Speaker 2>But when people walk the streets of Boston carrying weapons

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<v Speaker 2>with the intent or the apparent attempt to do harm

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<v Speaker 2>to others, and they refuse to comply with what a

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<v Speaker 2>police officer instructs them to do to drop a weapon,

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<v Speaker 2>they are responsible for what occurred to them because if

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<v Speaker 2>they had dropped the weapon, they never would have been shot.

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<v Speaker 2>When is someone gonna in public office or in police

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<v Speaker 2>leadership make a comment similar to that in these sorts

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<v Speaker 2>of circumstances six one seven, the only one line open

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<v Speaker 2>is six one seven, two, five, four, ten thirty Agree

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<v Speaker 2>or disagree. We'll come right back on night Side.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, bent to Dan Way live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>to night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Now before we go to phone calls. In fairness to

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<v Speaker 2>Mayor WOA, she tried to sort of explain herself today.

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<v Speaker 2>It was given an opportunity to sort of, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>in some form or fashion, revise and revoke her remarks.

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<v Speaker 2>This is cut forty three. She would have none of

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<v Speaker 2>that cut forty three.

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<v Speaker 3>I am a mayor focused on not just being at

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<v Speaker 3>press conferences, but being on the ground. So the point

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<v Speaker 3>of being there was to make sure that everyone was

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<v Speaker 3>okay on the scene and to find out directly what

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<v Speaker 3>the details were of what had happened as they were

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<v Speaker 3>unfolding in a very chaotic situation in one of the

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<v Speaker 3>busiest parts of our city.

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<v Speaker 4>And so.

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<v Speaker 3>This is my job to show up when it's needed

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<v Speaker 3>and to make sure that we are doing the work

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<v Speaker 3>that's needed day in and day out, whether it's in

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<v Speaker 3>front of the cameras or especially when the cameras aren't

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<v Speaker 3>there to take care of our city and keep everyone safe.

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<v Speaker 2>But mayor why the condolences to the family of the

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<v Speaker 2>individual that was wielding a knife. Too bad that he

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<v Speaker 2>had to die, but he could have prevented the police

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<v Speaker 2>officer from shooting by dropping the knife. Do you think

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe maybe your remarks on Saturday night were misplaced?

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<v Speaker 2>Cut forty two, Rob.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's unfortunate to politicize being at the scene

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<v Speaker 3>of a tragic incident. Our officers are in extremely difficult

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<v Speaker 3>and dangerous situations every single day keeping our residents safe,

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<v Speaker 3>and I expressed condolences along with our police Commissioner and

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<v Speaker 3>District Attorney, because every loss of life is a horrible tragedy.

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<v Speaker 3>I am also grateful every hour of every day for

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<v Speaker 3>the work of our Boston Police officers. And in this case,

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<v Speaker 3>we had an off duty officer who saw something happening

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<v Speaker 3>is training, kicked in and took action and surely saved

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<v Speaker 3>even more lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, because the guy whose family you offer condolences to,

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<v Speaker 2>you just acknowledged probably, if left undeterred, would have killed others.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I just don't get it. I just

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<v Speaker 2>don't get it. Maybe Glenn does Glenn, go right ahead,

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<v Speaker 2>you've been holding on the door. Ahead, Glenn, how are you?

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<v Speaker 5>I agree with I agree with you? With the other

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<v Speaker 5>percent I heard, if I didn't know any better, heads

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<v Speaker 5>the police commissioner is heither a member of Black Lives Matter?

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<v Speaker 5>Where he's a self hating cop. I mean he's giving

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<v Speaker 5>he's calling condonnces to a victim who didn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't, I don't know. I saw a

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<v Speaker 2>of communities. You know, he he never committed murder, but

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that police officer easily could have prevented him

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<v Speaker 2>the officers off duty. I don't think that officers tasers.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there are also individuals who who are unaffected

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<v Speaker 2>by tasers. I've seen police officers use tasers on individuals

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<v Speaker 2>who just continued on. And you're in it. Imagine yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>You're in a fast food joint like Chick fil a.

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<v Speaker 2>we you know, the instinct is never with the police officer.

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<v Speaker 2>The the the empathy and the sympathy that these progressive

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<v Speaker 5>That's why with the Democratic Party and became a conservative.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, someone you are someone who's blind, you can

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<v Speaker 5>No, if someone said to me, it's a good it's

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<v Speaker 5>why were you? You know, I wouldn't go outside with

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that you're blind and you do not have the

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<v Speaker 2>ability to see someone who's either necessarily following you. I often,

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<v Speaker 2>and whack me on the back of the head and

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<v Speaker 2>see what sort of Well, if I have any pictures

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<v Speaker 2>of dead presidents on me? Yeah, I mean that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>something every city kid learns. Glenn.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, that's why I don't wear a bat. But somebody

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<v Speaker 5>said someone own dangy lady, and Jude said you should

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<v Speaker 2>You bet, all right, Glenn, I appreciate it. We're at

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<v Speaker 2>we're so, I got a break for Hello, I got

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, can I say quick? I bought her last kiss.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a long list. Thanks Glenn, talk to you so

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate you listening all right back right after the news

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<v Speaker 2>at the bottom of the hour.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on night Side with Ray on you Boston's news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Dan Watkins. Let's get right back to the

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<v Speaker 2>call is going to go to Chuck and East Boston. Chuck,

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<v Speaker 2>you are a next door nightside Welcome.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, How are you doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great, Jock. Welcome to Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Then, long time listener, does that means.

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<v Speaker 2>Chuck does that mean.

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<v Speaker 4>No, No, I've I've start talking to many many times before.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much for acknowledging your listenership. That's important.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, thank you, thank you. With the situation the

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<v Speaker 4>other day with Chick fil A, you know a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of things that has has come up. We have a

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<v Speaker 4>Boston police officer that was forced into using his weapon,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm sure that that's this guy did not wake

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<v Speaker 4>up in the morning saying, you know, I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 4>go plug somebody tonight. That that that, believe me. I

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<v Speaker 4>know a lot of police officers and this is not

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<v Speaker 4>what they what they hang the hat on.

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<v Speaker 2>Chuck, I said the exact same thing in my opening

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<v Speaker 2>monologue to this hour, and that is that that you

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<v Speaker 2>know this this guy is out getting himself a sandwich,

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden he realizes he's the only

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<v Speaker 2>to try to control this situation, and.

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<v Speaker 5>He did what he had to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure he didn't pull his gun out and just

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<v Speaker 2>fire five shots as quickly as he could. Obviously there's

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of witnesses. I'm sure he said, Boston Police, drop

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<v Speaker 2>your drop your weapon, drop it right now and who knows,

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<v Speaker 2>the guy probably didn't say to him, officer, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>very much. I so apologize and drop it on the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>You know as well as I do that it probably

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<v Speaker 2>was an expletive deleted that I can't say on the air.

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<v Speaker 2>And at that point, what's wrong with what is wrong

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<v Speaker 2>with what is wrong with our elected and appointed leader,

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<v Speaker 2>is that they don't see it that way. Shock.

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<v Speaker 4>The bottom line is, they spoke when they should not

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<v Speaker 4>have spoke. They should have let the investigation come through

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<v Speaker 4>and followed through. If there was any kind of a

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<v Speaker 4>situation or any kind of condolences that shuld be made

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<v Speaker 4>to anybody, they should have done it, maybe to a

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<v Speaker 2>It was actually tonight on one of the newscasts. On

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<v Speaker 2>one of the newscasts tonight, I'm not sure if it

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<v Speaker 2>was four or five. The family of this guy apparently

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<v Speaker 2>said they were keeping in their prayers the police officer's family.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, of course, this this this police officer want

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<v Speaker 4>to protect the the residents of Boston to his full stability,

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<v Speaker 4>was forced into a situation where he had to use

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<v Speaker 4>his life. And he doesn't deserve it. But but but

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<v Speaker 4>for the grace of God, he was there to protect life. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 4>this guy. You know, they say that when you play

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<v Speaker 4>stupid games, you win stubid prizes. And this guy brought

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<v Speaker 4>a nice situation where he shouldn't have.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't no doubt and this is complish. This

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<v Speaker 2>is Copley Square across from the Boston Public Library, in

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<v Speaker 2>the shadow of the Trinity Church. I mean, you couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have a nicer heart of Boston, of the of Boston's

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<v Speaker 2>back bay. And what has happened is there have been

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<v Speaker 2>police attitudes that have gone on now for years, which is,

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<v Speaker 2>don't confront, let them go, don't pursue. Uh. You've got

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<v Speaker 2>you've got the the moped gangs which are terrorizing some

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, if I was the mayor, I say, look, jan,

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<v Speaker 4>It's not not to stop you, but it's not getting

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<v Speaker 4>out of control. It's been out of control for many years,

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<v Speaker 4>and it needs to be switched up, and we need

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<v Speaker 4>to move forward. We need to get control of our

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<v Speaker 4>city and and and and be cognizant of our laura

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<v Speaker 4>biding citizens and protect them to the best of our ability.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all I have to say.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate your calling. Keep calling the show. Thank you much.

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<v Speaker 4>I sure will.

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<v Speaker 2>Brother, right, all right, thank you much. Let me go

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<v Speaker 2>to Jean. Jean, you were next on Nisach right ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>Hi, Dan, So, I have been trying to bring notice

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<v Speaker 6>about all the crime going on in Boston. It's from

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<v Speaker 6>Haymarket all the way up to Chinatown, passed it up

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<v Speaker 6>to Boil around the Common on Tremont, Downtown, everywhere, and

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<v Speaker 6>the may is not interested. Neither is the police chief.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm going to say it again. They're not interested. They're

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<v Speaker 6>not doing anything about it. But what I'd like to

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<v Speaker 6>do is, well, well, let me ask you.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this, Gene. You live outside of Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you called their offices in Boston and identified yourself

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<v Speaker 2>or have you just talked about it to friends neighbors?

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<v Speaker 2>What have you done?

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<v Speaker 6>I have friends who work in Boston and are face

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<v Speaker 6>to face with that problem every single day. Trying to

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<v Speaker 2>No, I understand. Look, we certainly, we understand, and we

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<v Speaker 2>agree that the problem exists. My question was to you,

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't sure if you had called and spoken to

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<v Speaker 2>their offices, to the offices and you had been treated

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<v Speaker 2>in a cavalier manor, or if you have simply talked

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<v Speaker 2>to people about it. I wasn't sure what you were

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<v Speaker 6>Would be a fruitless event for me to even bother

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<v Speaker 6>speaking to any of them. They don't care, They obviously

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<v Speaker 6>don't care that it's spent several years. Now, then to

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<v Speaker 6>spend hell in Boston downtown people walking to work, Jean.

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<v Speaker 2>We're repeating, We're repeating the obvious. Okay, we understand you,

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<v Speaker 2>and I agree that Boston from a crime perspective is

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<v Speaker 2>stating worse. Well, I don't wouldn't call it a hellhole

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<v Speaker 2>in honesty, but yeah, yeah, yeah, Gene, bear me out here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I was in Boston yesterday. You know I'm not spending

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<v Speaker 2>chose to have uh dinner. I could have easily stayed

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<v Speaker 2>in Boston yesterday and had dinner in Boston yesterday, but

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<v Speaker 2>my wife and I had dinner in a suburb last night.

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<v Speaker 2>We met some friends and had dinner at a lovely

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<v Speaker 2>restaurant outside the city of Boston. And the city doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>understand that loss of clientele either. So yeah, I get

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<v Speaker 2>into Boston quite often, but I don't spend a lot

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<v Speaker 6>To be honest with you, no, I never go there anymore.

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<v Speaker 6>But take a walk from Heim. I got up to

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<v Speaker 2>Jean, you're preaching. You're preaching to the to the You're

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<v Speaker 6>No, I know, I'm just saying the experience.

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<v Speaker 2>When was the last time, When was the last time

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<v Speaker 6>It's earth shattering. I haven't been there for several months,

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<v Speaker 6>but I wouldn't go anywhere except for the North End,

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<v Speaker 6>to be honest, I don't feel safe anywhere pasted there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, the North End has their problems as well.

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<v Speaker 6>Jean, thank you for Can I thank that police officer

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<v Speaker 6>if you wouldn't mind, did you just did? He saved

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<v Speaker 6>the innocent lives that night, God bless.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you you appreciate your call. Okay, let me go

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<v Speaker 2>to Bernie in New Hampshire. Burnie, gonna get you in

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<v Speaker 2>here before the break. How are you, Bernie?

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<v Speaker 5>Good?

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<v Speaker 7>How are you doing tonight?

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<v Speaker 2>Dare a little wound up, but I feel that I

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<v Speaker 2>have a right to be. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely. I work in Boston quite a bit. I've been

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<v Speaker 7>in that Chipila a few times. And it's like you said,

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<v Speaker 7>wall to wall people, and it sounds like, I don't

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<v Speaker 7>know just from what I'm hearing, A very bad man

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<v Speaker 7>tried to do a very bad thing, and he got

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<v Speaker 7>called the task on it, and unfortunately someone did die,

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<v Speaker 7>good or bad, he still died, and and that's that's

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<v Speaker 7>terrible for the person's family, but it's good for the

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<v Speaker 7>people that may have gotten heard, because if you're well

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<v Speaker 7>known in a quot a log, guilt or innocence is

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<v Speaker 7>presumed by an imposition of the will. And it sounded

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<v Speaker 7>like he was trying to impose his will on somebody,

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<v Speaker 7>and the officer who was trained to do what he did,

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<v Speaker 7>unfortunately how to do what he did, and something bad happened,

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<v Speaker 7>and that's somebody dying. But something could happen, and that

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<v Speaker 7>maybe innocent people didn't get hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean if if if let us say that

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<v Speaker 2>police officer instead of that off duty police officer, instead

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<v Speaker 2>of being in the Chick fil Ah was in a

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<v Speaker 2>restaurant one block away, who would have been there to

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<v Speaker 2>have interrupted whatever the assailant had in mind?

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<v Speaker 4>Correct?

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe no one, because sometimes when when seconds matter, the

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<v Speaker 7>police are wontem only minutes away. But that's another story

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<v Speaker 7>for another day.

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<v Speaker 4>But the thing is, what would you say that?

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<v Speaker 7>What would you say just why wouldn't go ahead?

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<v Speaker 2>Now? What would you say to the mayor?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, yeah, yeah, putout the facts? Why would she

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<v Speaker 7>make this? Because you know what my opinion is. I

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<v Speaker 7>could be wrong, but my opinion on this matter is

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<v Speaker 7>she's of the Chicago liberal frame of mind that, like

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<v Speaker 7>you said that, let's like stand up for a put

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<v Speaker 7>a people or whatever. I don't I don't know what

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<v Speaker 7>what she's playing to. But without the facts, why would

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<v Speaker 7>you do something like that without finding out exactly like

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<v Speaker 7>maybe maybe the man was mentally ill and or something

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<v Speaker 7>like I'm not saying that's the case, but like without

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<v Speaker 7>the but but what would he do that?

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<v Speaker 2>But Bernie, let let's assume, let's let's take the worst

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<v Speaker 2>case scenario. Let's assume that this guy truly was mentally ill, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and he walked into that Chick fil A seeking revenge

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<v Speaker 2>against someone, okay, and at the police officer doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to say to the guy, hey, look, do

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<v Speaker 2>me a favor. Let's sit down here and talk this out, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>those the time for that has long passed when the

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<v Speaker 2>guy's wielding the knife in proximity of other people. So

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know. I mean, I would think

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<v Speaker 2>anybody who would pull a knife out of Chick fil

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<v Speaker 2>A is by definition mentally ill, you know. And but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think the police officer has a right to

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<v Speaker 2>run some sort of a mental competency test before he

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<v Speaker 2>discharges his weapon. Once he's told the individual, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>police officer, dropped the weapon, drop the weapon on the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>And at that point that individual, you know, I suspect

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<v Speaker 2>that that if he had dropped the weapon, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think the police officer would have shot him.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I'm of the same failing. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 7>sometimes that you well know, it depended on a passion.

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<v Speaker 7>A person had a very bad moment and something escalated

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<v Speaker 7>and happened. But this sounded like it was a bad

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<v Speaker 7>man that wasn't going to be listening to reason.

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<v Speaker 2>But even if that guy but Bertie, what I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to say is, what I'm trying to say is that

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<v Speaker 2>that even if this guy was mentally ill, it would

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<v Speaker 2>make it It would make it horrible and very sad.

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<v Speaker 2>But the police officer doesn't have the benefit of second

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<v Speaker 2>guests like you and I. I mean, we could find

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<v Speaker 2>out that this guy had an IQ of thirty, but

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<v Speaker 2>he does. The police officer has to make a judgment

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<v Speaker 2>life or death. And the police officer there were other

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<v Speaker 2>people standing there. This guy could have. You could slash

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<v Speaker 2>someone's throat in a New York second, and he's got

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<v Speaker 2>to he's gotta have confidence when the police officer says,

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<v Speaker 2>drop the knife, I'm telling you drop the knife.

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<v Speaker 4>Right and not being said.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, My last question to you, Dan is do not

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<v Speaker 7>the Boston Police work for the mayor of Boston?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they worked?

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<v Speaker 7>Will that work for her without the fact.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you know that the answer to that question

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<v Speaker 2>is inherent and why it's asked. It is a mindset.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a mindset that, unfortunately for Mayor Wu overwhelms

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<v Speaker 2>her and she's not capable of seeing good and evil.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all the same. And the good guy was the

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<v Speaker 2>police officer, or would have been a civilian with the gun.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, thank god it was a police officer. If

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<v Speaker 2>it was a civilian with a gun, no, that would

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<v Speaker 2>even be worse, if you know what I'm saying, Bertie,

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<v Speaker 2>I got a run. Talk to you soon. I thank

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<v Speaker 2>you too, my friend. Coming right back on night Side

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<v Speaker 2>only line available six one seven back right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Rayne line from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on w b Z, the news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>The Fact we go. The's go to Steve Lowell. Steve,

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<v Speaker 2>you were next on Nightside. Where are you driving tonight, Steve?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh? So you know it's truck driver, Steve. Rob told you.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I saw as soon as I saw it. I

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<v Speaker 2>figured it out ahead.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I must command Rob Brooks. So he's terrific, works hard.

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<v Speaker 8>So I got a couple of points, Dan one, I'd

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<v Speaker 8>like to have a police officer please call in. I

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<v Speaker 8>know the train to kill, and I know every circumstance

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<v Speaker 8>is different, but if somebody wielding a knife is real

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<v Speaker 8>close to you, you have to shoot to kill. But

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<v Speaker 8>I'm saying if they come after you, like run at you.

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<v Speaker 8>Why can't they shoot them in the lake instead of

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<v Speaker 8>killing them?

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<v Speaker 4>It's just a question I have. I'm wondering from a.

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<v Speaker 8>Police officer's perspective, how they would handle that instead of killing.

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<v Speaker 2>Them all the time.

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<v Speaker 9>And I'm and I'm full of blue, don't get me wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, well, I think I think they're trained to shoot.

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<v Speaker 2>This is I think the train to shoot center body mass. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>if they're gonna, if they're gonna use the weapon, it's

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<v Speaker 2>center body mass. Some will say, for example, Steve, why

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<v Speaker 2>not just wing him in the hand and that way

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<v Speaker 2>he'll drop the knife. That's not It's not like the

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<v Speaker 2>lone ranger anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>And exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>The point O, Thank god that you and I will

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<v Speaker 2>never be in that position where we have to take

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<v Speaker 2>someone's life.

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<v Speaker 9>Right, And I feel, I really feel for the homeless,

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<v Speaker 9>some of there by choice a lot on all. And

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<v Speaker 9>once again, this is the political thing, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 9>make it that is that people voted for liberal lack

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<v Speaker 9>of leadership week leadership, What I would do? I know,

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<v Speaker 9>I've been thinking this true. I don't know how many

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<v Speaker 9>paddy wagons they have.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't say paddy wagons. You have to say police

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<v Speaker 2>wagons with paddy wagons. Sorry, sorry, politically correct, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>MICROAGGRESSI maybe it's a macro aggression. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 9>Well that is for the unruly ones, but for the ones,

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<v Speaker 9>I understand, they're gonna be in the city near you know, establishments,

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<v Speaker 9>But I don't think really that owners like them coming

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<v Speaker 9>into their stores. And again, I'm not putting down the homeless.

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<v Speaker 9>It's just they would love to see that whole area

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<v Speaker 9>cleared out. And I was thinking maybe the city of

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<v Speaker 9>Boston spend their money wisely and get a bunch of

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<v Speaker 9>moving vans.

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<v Speaker 10>And put everything nice and neatly in a moving van

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<v Speaker 10>and transport the homeless on the woods, well, somewhere where

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<v Speaker 10>they're not out in the boonies, but somewhere out of

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<v Speaker 10>the city.

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<v Speaker 3>Were in the city.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're in dreamland at that point, Steve, because

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<v Speaker 2>what are you gonna do? Just the American Civil Liberties

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<v Speaker 2>Union would be in in Federal court or wherever Uhsdale

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<v Speaker 2>you know as well as that?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, well I didn't. I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 9>That's why you're wiser than I am and much younger

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<v Speaker 9>than I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it, Steve. I want to get one more

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<v Speaker 2>in here before the break. Okay, Thanks Jan, Thanks Bell?

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<v Speaker 2>Be well you drive working tonight?

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<v Speaker 9>Are I'm heading, No, whisker, I'm not too far from

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<v Speaker 9>wister right now?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 4>And then on do you work?

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<v Speaker 5>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>Man? Great talk you too. Let me go to Melissa

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<v Speaker 2>and Oregon. Melissa, want to get you in here before

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<v Speaker 2>the break, right ahead, Melissa.

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<v Speaker 11>Hey Dan, it's nice to hear your your show. You know,

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<v Speaker 11>I was really really saddened today when I when I

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<v Speaker 11>heard the update on the news, I actually thought the

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<v Speaker 11>newscaster made a mistake because I would have thought that

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<v Speaker 11>the mayor would have thanked the police officer for being.

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<v Speaker 4>There, you know, and stepping up and that, and that

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<v Speaker 4>would have been wrong.

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<v Speaker 11>But here's my question for you, and I I don't

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<v Speaker 11>want it to come across sarcastic, but I'm very sincere.

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<v Speaker 11>How does what makes somebody want to be a police

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<v Speaker 11>officer during these times like, how do you recruit somebody

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<v Speaker 11>to be a police officer?

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<v Speaker 5>Today?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Boston is having by the way, Boston is having

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<v Speaker 2>trouble recruiting police officers. Our police department is down about

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty police officers, and it has been

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<v Speaker 2>down for years, and part of it is the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>They ran a program a year ago where they wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to invite police officers from surrounding communities to make a

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<v Speaker 2>lateral move into the Boston Police Department with some additional benefits.

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<v Speaker 2>Who was like trying to sign you free agent baseball players.

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<v Speaker 2>Just didn't happen. As a matter of fact, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of police officers in Boston probably in other cities too,

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<v Speaker 2>have left the police work and become firefighters because it's

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<v Speaker 2>dangerous a job as a firefighter is it probably is

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<v Speaker 2>less stressful than a police officer because you know, firefighters

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<v Speaker 2>and the bell rings, they got to be ready. But

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of times when they're downtimes. Police officers,

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<v Speaker 2>when they're on duty, they never know who's who there.

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<v Speaker 2>That is they're stopping in the car, they have no clothes,

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<v Speaker 2>who's going to walk around the corner. But you're absolutely right, Melissa.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you've had the situation Portland, Oregon. You know

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<v Speaker 2>you had a crazy They are out there and you're

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<v Speaker 2>still recovering from that.

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<v Speaker 11>We're still recovering. And I I question all the time

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<v Speaker 11>because I don't see police officers as often as I

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<v Speaker 11>would like, and it just makes me sad because, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>maybe I'm showing my age, but it always seemed like

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<v Speaker 11>a police officer was such a proud profession, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>and it feels like they're just getting beat up.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. But you and I as kids were taught

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<v Speaker 2>police were our friends. And then there have been some

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<v Speaker 2>actions by individual police officers which have been disgraceful. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I think of Derek Chauvin in Minneapolis and others. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but they are more police now, it's more representative of

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<v Speaker 2>every community, whether it's Boston or Portland, Oregon. And we

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<v Speaker 2>need to get back to that point of view to

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<v Speaker 2>understand the police that they are to protect us, not

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<v Speaker 2>to harass us. Listen, well, great to hear yours. I

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<v Speaker 2>got you in under the wire. So with apologies to

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of folks I didn't want to have. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to hold on through the news. We'll talk soon, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks Melissa. Baseball is only three weeks away, Melissa. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what love love for baseball. And I was delighted to

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<v Speaker 2>say to see today that the president has has is

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<v Speaker 2>going to pardon peoples. We'll be back on night side

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<v Speaker 2>right after the eleven o'clock news. Stay with us