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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the Paranormal Portal podcast. As always,
we are absolutely thrilled you're here with us. Thank you
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the podcast. It's absolutely heartwarming, and Don and I are
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from you guys, and we're just thrilled you're enjoying the shows.
So tonight's show is going to be a good time.
I got a great interview with Chad from Atlanta and
he's had a whole lifetime of experiences that he's going
to talk to us about. But you know, before that,
we're going to get to an email from another listener
named Sharon. But don you know, it seems to me
that there's this phenomena that seems to happen, and it
is that once somebody experiences a phenomena, they seem to
be more likely to re experience phenomena after that. Have
you have you noticed that as well throughout the course of.
Speaker 6: This Yeah, you know, before I came to the portal,
I say, I've never really had an experience because I
just I seem to be numb or locked out to
them or something like that. But when I listen to
all these stories and I listen to the people telling
their their their their tails, it just it just baffles
me that once you have one, like you said, you know,
once say somebody sees a spirit or an apparition, then
all of a sudden they start seeing other things as well.
And uh, it's just mind boggling to me.
Speaker 2: It really is, and it makes it you don't seem
like there's there's some kind of seal that you're popping
on this deal or something that's uh, you know, like
something there's some there's some natural resistance in our lives
to this kind of stuff. But once you see one,
it's like you broke the sea, and now you're going
to see all kinds of different things. And I think
that that's that phenomena continues to repeat itself, and that
seems to be that certainly the situation with Chad. But
I've heard that so many times come up over and
over and over throughout the course of our shows. It's like, well,
this one time I saw a ghost and then next
thing I know, bigfoot was over near my shed, and
then there was a UFO over the field, and it's
like this, this cornucopia just kind of unleashes, and people
end up experience a lot of different things, and it's
really common, ladies and gentlemen. Is as unlikely as that
may seem to the person who hasn't experienced anything, it's
very common that once you experience one thing, you seem
to be prone to experiencing other things. And perhaps perhaps
there's just an awareness that opens up within us after
our first experience that attunes us to this other phenomena
that's always been there, but maybe we've just glossed right
over it, because I really believe that we have very
selective vision, we have very selective hearing, we have we
have a very selective attention span. Based upon the course
of our lives. In Western society, especially, we are pushed
and pushed and pushed to be efficient to you know,
nine to five, then be responsible and you know, raise
your kids.
Speaker 6: And go faster, do more, do more.
Speaker 2: With less, and mow your lawn and make sure your
house looks nice, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And
so we just get ground into this this almost numbness
and then something like these events happen and it's this
amazingly profound event, and uh, it's just incredible. So, uh,
you know, I just think that's worthy of noting at
the first part of this episode, not that it's particularly
only relevant to this episode, but it's just something that
I've been thinking about a whole bunch lately, and it
seems to continue and continue and continue. So what do
you think about that? Don you know?
Speaker 6: I and I grew up in Seattle, in the Seattle area,
that you know, that metropolis, and you know you would
expect to see a spirit, a ghost, something more like that.
Of course you're not going to see. I don't think
you're going to see a big foot in the middle
of downtown Seattle or you know, even in the many
many suburbs and Metropolis is around that area, you know,
And it's really, like I said, it just boggles my
mind that this is the way it happens. And it's like,
you're right, You're right. It's like breaking a seal. It's
like that Seventh Seal and then everything just comes crushing
in and you start having these miraculous and interesting things
happened to you. So here I am. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: Well, you have seen something in the skies though, I mean,
you saw the anomalous lights. And I'm not saying it
was UFOs, but it was definitely anomalist. It's something you've
never seen before.
Speaker 6: He's air quotes, not saying it's the UFOs, you know,
but yeah, so, but and that was right outside the
studio too. Yeah, I'm waiting for something else to happen.
Speaker 2: You're gonna go out to your truck tonight and this
beam of light's gonna come and all a sudden, your
truck will be sitting there in the morning where your
house don happened to him Neil, Yeah, that's right. But anyway,
let's get to this email from Sharon Guys. I read
this before and it's just really an incredible event, very
wild experience she had. So let's go to that. And
it says, Hey, hey, Brett, I enjoy listening to your
show and it's been especially entertaining here at Halloween time,
and thank you. I appreciate that. I hope you enjoyed
this spooky story from my youth. Well, I grew up
in the country, the last house on a dead end
dirt road. The house was surrounded by woods, and as
a result of that, it was really quiet and isolated.
The house had six plus rooms plus two baths and
no hallway. Each room had access to at least two
other rooms, and the main rooms were like six blocks
laid out in two rows of three rooms with bathrooms
stucked in the middle. The layout allowed you to make
a circle through the house or a figure eight pattern
if you wanted. The kitchen and living room were on
the front side, facing the driveway and road coming in
and the four bedrooms and paths were on the backside,
with views of the barn pastures and the surrounding hills.
There were odd things happening as far back as I
can remember, but only openly discussed as a family, starting
at around nineteen seventy. Sometimes we would get a little spooked,
but we were mostly just curious. However, the following is
one of the most unsettling events that happened to me.
I was sixteen in nineteen seventy seven and had my
driving license. Back then, you could have full drive, having
privileges the very day you turned sixteen. Why I often
drove to school and back, and sometimes with my brothers.
But on this one particular day, I drove home from
school alone, seeing no other car. As I arrived home,
I thought no one else was there. I went in
through the kitchen, unlocking the door, and placed my backpacking
keys on the kitchen table, and as I did this,
I heard footsteps. It sounded like there were at least
two rooms away at the back of the house. While
I was a little surprised, I opened the door leading
into the bedroom next to the kitchen and called out
that I was home. As I continued through the bedroom
and into the next I called out again, and I
wondered why nobody answered and why whoever it was had
not parked in front. My two older brothers also drove,
and sometimes there could be as many as five cars
at our house. Because of that, we had extra parking
space in the back of the house near the barn,
and I thought someone must have been parked in back,
and that's why I didn't see the car. As I
walked into the third room, which was the bedroom at
the opposite end of the house from the kitchen, I
glanced out the window and saw the extra parking spaces
were empty, and that's when I started feeling uneasy. I
fell silent, and I softened my steps. I walked quickly
and quietly through the bathroom and into the next bedroom,
listening and glancing out windows, looking for cars to help
me identify who was in the house with me. But
there were no cars, and I realized the footsteps were
not from my family. I began to feel fear, and
my mind was scrambling to understand just what was going on.
I thought it had to be an intruder, and the
intruder must have heard me. I thought maybe they would
run out the kitchen door, which I had left open,
and the footsteps, however, continued at that same steady pace,
not slowing up or speeding up to indicate my presence
bothered them. They made a big circle around the entire house,
with me just a room or two behind. I never
saw anyone, or even a shadow of anyone, but I
just heard the footsteps clearly. And as I passed through
the last bedroom and approached the living room, I heard
the footsteps pass through the kitchen and not go outside
as I thought they would, but rather back around, as
if to make a second lap through our house. That
didn't make any sense and can really confuse me. If
it were someone wanted to harm me, they could have
done that by now. If it were someone trying to
rob us, they had a chance to run away and
didn't take it. And that's when I began to realize
that it was not a person, but instead it was
the family ghost. I had heard the phantom footsteps before,
but never for this long, and never when I was alone,
and because I was alone, I was extraordinarily creeped out
by it. By the time I came full circle once
again in the kitchen, I had made up my mind.
Without breaking stride, I passed the table, grabbed my bag
in keys, walked out of the house, locking the door
behind me, and left. I was too frightened to look back.
I went into town and waited until I knew someone
else would be home before returning. Well, I told my
family what had happened, and they all believed me because
we all had experienced strange things over the years, and
most of us had heard the mysterious footsteps at least once.
That somehow made it better. But still I avoided being
home alone after that. I hope you enjoyed that story,
and I wish you all a happy Halloween. Wow, it's
not just creepy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, when you're expect, not expecting somebody to
be home and you hear these things, Yeah, you know,
it's really it's really disturbing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't imagine. And you know, and I don't
mean to sound sexist here, but I mean, obviously women
seem to have a lot more to worry about than
men in most cases like this. You know, unfortunately, women
are targeted quite a bit for you know, heinous acts,
and you know, and granted they should feel more cautious
in those kind of situations. But my god, I don't
think it matters if you're a man or woman in
a situation like that. Just that idea that somebody else
is in that house. Yeah, and they're pacing you through
your her own house. Yeah, and you can't catch up
on them. You're not seeing any indication of someone being there,
but you continually hear the very plain as day sound
of footsteps, and you know, and it sounds intelligent. So
here's the deal, ladies and gentlemen. There too major types
of hauntings, one of which is an intelligent haunting, and
the other one is a residual haunting. And a residual haunting.
I know I've covered this before, but forgive the redundancy,
but we get new listeners all the time. Or residual
haunting is kind of like a just a recorded event
that repeats. And while these footsteps could be residual, the
fact that it remained ahead of her no matter where
she was is to me seems intelligent, Like it was
moving away from her continuously right based upon where she was.
It was staying just ahead of her and just out
of sight, and that to me really seems to indicate
at least some kind of intelligence at work there, you
know what I mean. Done?
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, and and and it's really yeah, if it wasn't,
if she had a chance to catch up to it,
if it you know, paused or you know, turned around
and went the other way, or even just the noise
began on the other side of her, you know, then
it would more I would think it would be more
a residual thing, because it's following that same pattern, you know.
So I don't think yeah, I think you're right. I
think it was cognizantive where where she was, where it was,
and it did not want to be discovered in any
more fashion than being heard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Wow, it just wanted to be heard. It
just wanted to be ahead. And it seems to you know,
have done that for the specific reason. And I'm just
speculating here, but to intimidate the fact that they all
had so many experiences with this ghost through the years,
it seems odd that it would suddenly want to be
spooky and creepy. And maybe it was always trying to
be spooky and creepy, but just the fact that they
had all kind of come become used to it, right,
But to pull out this one instance and just be
absolutely wackyest. It's pretty bizarre.
Speaker 6: Now, she said she was sixteen because she had just
gotten her driver's license, right, yeah, So why hadn't she
heard it before or was she just not well? She
said that she had, Oh, she just never heard it
this long. Like it they would hear these random footsteps
here and there, says more towards the intelligence.
Speaker 2: Part, Right, yeah, yeah, because it was they would hear
these ghostly footsteps here and there from time to time,
but they didn't seem to have any you know, pattern
to them other than that they occurred. But this time
it was like they kept ahead of her and on
a specific pattern based upon position. You know. So it's
a very intelligent and type of activity. I think, I
really do.
Speaker 7: So.
Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like, you know, for the most part, Sharon,
that your your experiences were really horrible. It just sounds
like something was present and seems to have wanted you
to know that it was present. But I think it's
it's incredibly profound and it seems to indicate that there's
probably someone that's been there for an awful long time,
probably before you guys were there, and has chosen to
stay or had chosen to stay. I don't you know,
I don't believe you're probably there anymore. I I but
I got a commend you to walk two laps through
your house following ghost footsteps. That's pretty brave. I think
I would have made it about half the house and
called it a day. That's it. I'm going to this door.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she's stuck it out. She's stuck it out
until she made that next lap to grab her keys
and stuff and then went nope and got out of there.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, they say, if you have something following you,
or something you know, intimidating, you don't run, just be
calm as a cucumber.
Speaker 2: Right, gather you stuff.
Speaker 6: And that's exactly what she did. She just walked in there,
you know, made the second circuit, walked in, grabbed her stuff,
and walked right out the door.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well she didn't run, that's true. I got to
give her credit for that too. I mean, really, it's
amazing how bold and brave some people are. I'd be
like Zins, Yeah exactly, I would have got full Scooby
Doo and Shaggy and that deal. Yeah. Wow, but no,
it's great story. Yeah, it really is, and it's and
it really does identify it's. It's tough to pull it out.
If it wasn't for the following thing. I would say
that most of the activity there is residual. Most of
it sounds like it just happens without knowing too much
of the other activity going on in that house. But
but again, I suspect that house has some history and
there's a presence there and it just wants to be
recognized every once in a while. But that sounds like
a really interesting host due there's not even a hallway
in the whole place. Wow.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was kind of amazed at that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder why. I don't think I'm conceptualizing it
as I'm reading it, trying to figure out what does
this look like? You know, and it just sounds like
a bunch of rooms with doors between them. Yeah, and
that's it. But what a unique layout. I don't know,
I I've never heard of that before.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: Every time I picture a house, it always has a.
Speaker 6: Hallway at least to the bedrooms.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. You got like the living room, kitchen, maybe
a launder room in the front end or something like that,
and then you've got a hallway and then the rest
of the stuff, the bathroom and the bedrooms. But it
sounds really interesting, very cool, and I really appreciate you
sending that in. Thank you so much, because we thrive
on stuff like that. Here in the Portal's our that's
our bread and butter. And it's your guys's involvement that
has made this show amazing. It truly is. You guys
have brought so much to the table. Was all your
listeners out there. You guys have brought your experiences, You've
brought your thoughts, you've brought your you know, your ideas
to the table. And I tell you what I I
you know, I'll say it again, I've already said it
many times, but I have learned more about the paranormal
by far by listening to the things you guys talk
about in your experiences than I have from anywhere else.
And I've learned a great deal from other places, don't
get me wrong, but it's the nuances that you guys
talk about. It's the way you see things that really
makes it unique. And every time somebody sends me a story,
it feels like I get another piece of that puzzle,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Done Yeah, absolutely, you know, it's it's and it's the
sense of community you feel, you feel that you're safe,
you know, sharing these things, and we appreciate that too.
You know, we're a paranormal safe spot and it really
honored that you've shared that with us, and we do look,
we do hope that you send us more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. If there's more of those encounters and stuff, Sharon, please,
we'd love to hear more because that's great fodder for
the listeners. I know I love those kind of stories
and I'm excited to hear more if you've got more,
or any of you. All that goes for any of
you guys out there, please email on your stories. That's
that's the stuff that makes these shows great. But anyway,
I think we're gonna go to a break here, quick done,
and then we'll continue on with our interview with Chad Chat.
All right, don't go away, everybody. We'll be right back
if I can find if I can find the button,
all right, all right, everybody, thanks so much for being
here on the show tonight and being a part of
the Paranormal Portal family. I got a great guest lined
up for you tonight joining us now. Is Chad from
Atlanta who's going to go through his journey and share
some incredible encounters and experiences. So, first of all, Chad,
welcome to the show.
Speaker 7: Thank you very much. I appreciate you inviting me on.
Speaker 2: Oh man, it's totally my pleasure. In fact, this is
truly the part of doing all the shows that we
do that I enjoy the most is just getting an
opportunity to talk with people and to look through their
eyes and to see things through their experiences. And I'm
really sincerely honest when I say that, but I probably
have learned more about the paranormal by listening to people's
experiences than I ever have from doing research on my own.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I appreciate the forum. You know. I tell my
story and a lot of people look at me like
I'm crazy. So there's not a lot of people out
there that actually believe me. There's a lot of skeptics
out there.
Speaker 2: So well, you're you're are kind of crazy, brother, So
we're glad you're here. But why why don't you start
us out with how did this journey begin for you?
Speaker 7: Okay? Well, I was born and raised in Writing, Pennsylvania,
which is in Burke's County and it is probably one
of the most haunted places in the United States. There's
several books that have been written called ghost Stories of
Burke's County that document a lot of hauntings in that area.
The house I grew up in was haunted, just doors
opening and closing by themselves in a pattern. It seemed
like a not a Sunday but residual haunting. The attic
had a real creepy feel to it. I never liked
going up in the attic as a kid. My first
solid experience after that was actually not even a ghost.
It was I believe a Sasquatch. Oh wow. Yeah. I
was about fourteen, and we were in Antitham, Pennsylvania, and
it's a lot of battles had been fought there. It
was a home of the Hessians for a while. My
stepbrother's grandmother owned a house that used to be a
riding gun club, and we had had dinner there on
a Sunday night, and it was in the fall. I
believe I think it was October time frame, because it
was only about seven thirty and it was already really dark.
So after dinner, my stepbrother and I decided to go
walk the trails of the Riding gun Club. So as
we're heading down the trail towards a pond, I heard
a noise behind me and I kind of got to
shiver up my spine and hairs were standing up on
the back of my neck and I turned around and
it was hard to make out. It was really dark,
and it's probably about six and a half to seven
foot tall, full dark hair that blended into the night.
But the thing I remember most are the eyes. They
were glowing red eyes, and I don't know if they
were given off light of their own, but there was
no I didn't have a flashlight, so it wasn't eye shine,
but they were wide like I surprised it. And I
know I was listening to one of your other episodes
the other night and Stephen, you were talking to about
the hairy Man in Alaska, and it kind of reminded
me that, you know, a lot of times you surprise
them or they mess up and they get caught right,
And I think that's I think it was trying to
sneak behind us to get to the pond, and it
stepped on a twig or something, but I caught it
by a surprise because its eyes were like, why. It
reminded me of the Patterson Gimlin film Sasquatch, that kind
of shape. It was really large and I could see
fangs almost like incisors.
Speaker 2: Wow, okay, And it was maybe a.
Speaker 7: Three second glance. I turned around to grab my step
brother and say, hey, guess what. And I turned back around.
It was gone, no noise, no nothing, just gone. I
headed back up to the house and he followed me
because I was running. And we get back to the house.
I told everybody what I saw, and nobody, of course
believed me, being thirteen. They said it was just a
figment of my imagination. But after that, everyone outside at
dark again up.
Speaker 2: There, Yeah, I don't blame you. Wow.
Speaker 7: So that one was really interesting and that was my
first real experience with anything like that. I guess I
was probably from my next experience. I think I was eighteen.
I just came home from boot camp for the Navy,
and we had moved to Arizona earlier that year, and
it was springtime. It was probably about nine thirty ten
o'clock at night, and it was again at night dark.
I was relaxing in my parents' hot tub in the yard.
I was looking up at the sky, and three balls
of light shot over my head and they were probably
about seventy to eighty feet above the house. And they stopped,
and when they went over my head, at the height
they were at, they were about the size of a
softball that they're in comparison, Okay, when they stopped, they
were about they looked to be the size of a
golf ball. And then they shot back over me and
kind of hovered just above me for a minute, and
then they started heading back away from me and stopped
and shot one by one straight up into the air
and disappeared.
Speaker 2: Man, so you're you're seeing these as most likely some
kind of physical structure, not just a not just an
orb of light or something.
Speaker 7: Right, right, it seemed like there was something. It wasn't
an orb it wasn't spiritually, it looked to be more UFO,
like it was a glowing globe. And I know Phoenix
is known for sightings with the triangle shape UFO. That
was sighted there sure several years ago, so, and it
was we were not far I think forty miles from
Luke Air Force Base, So you know, there was a
lot of sightings in that area around that time frame, right, Yeah,
that was a real interesting night. You know, it's something
I always like to remember and recount to people, and
that when I get a lot more people believing me
than the Sasquatch story.
Speaker 2: So isn't that funny that that there's a distinction there
between different phenomena that for many people would seem impossible,
But there's such a discernment between which one people are
willing to accept exactly.
Speaker 7: It's amazing. I've seen stuff on the ship in the
middle of the Pacific Ocean that just a lot of
people accept, but other people are telling me I'm crazy.
So wow, it's you know, I've seen flight footage of
unexplained glowing objects, all sorts of crazy stuff, radio calls
of we're not sure what it is. You just see
glowing mists in the middle of the ocean, almost like
the Northern lights, but you're around the equator. So it's
really interesting having seen all that and being you know,
attuned to the spiritual world and knowing that we're not
the only ones out there.
Speaker 2: So that is that's really powerful stuff. And you know,
I imagine being out there on the ocean. You guys
on a ship are probably the most interesting thing going
on out there, So it doesn't surprise me that they would,
you know, they wouldn't keep coming checking you guys out right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's pretty neat. I spent about a year at sea,
so the most we saw were, like I said, some
of the videos from the flight footage of the pilot seeing.
Speaker 2: UFOs, all the tic TACs.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, and you know, the glowing mists. Those were
always neat. Sometimes you'd see trails following the ship that
were glowing in the water. And I don't know if
it was just like an algae that was.
Speaker 2: Like a biolum.
Speaker 7: What, but there'd always at night there'd be a trail
following us. So that was always cool to see.
Speaker 2: I'll bet you that would be just an incredible to
witness in person.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was, and to be, you know, just out
of high school and that young and seeing and experiencing that,
it really kind of sets the tone for the rest
of your life that you I want to know more,
I want to see more, I want to know where
this is all coming from. I think that's what led
me into paganism, and you know, seeing the different spiritual
paths there are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely wow.
Speaker 7: So one of the other things I saw I was
in my twenties and it was after I was married.
My wife and I moved to her hometown in Georgia
and we lived out near Atlanta Motor Speedway. And the
speedway is right along Georgia Highway twenty and on one
side of Highway twenty where fields. It was owned by
a I guess farmer. It was all farmland and pastures,
but he never kept any livestock on it or grew
anything on it. He charged ten dollars for people to
park during events at Atlantamotor Speedway. Oh, so we were driving.
It was probably around this time of year, around the
thirty first, and I believe we're headed to a party.
I'm not sure where we were going, but it was
dark and it was at night, and right before you
get to Atlanta Motor Speedway, there's this old, decrepit house
sitting back in the woods and it kind of reminds
you of the house from Blair Witch Project. It's real creepy.
I've seen anything back there, but the feeling you get
from it is kind of odd. Sure, So we had
just passed that house and I was kind of glazing
off into the fields and my wife was driving, and
there was a mist rising up out of the fields
that the guy let people park on, and as I
was glancing at it, I start seeing figures in the mist,
and I see they have muskets and they're wearing Civil
war uniforms. Oh man, this whole civil war battle play out,
is my wife's driving and they're all missed. It wasn't solid,
so I don't think it was a time loop thing.
It just seemed like it was like a residual haunting
of this entire civil war battle playing out. And I
glanced over to my wife and I could see the
hairs on her arms standing up, and she felt something,
but I asked her to look over to her right
at the time. She looked over and I look back.
There was no miss to know anything. Everything was gone
and it was just the fields.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's really that's really incredible. So do you think
that it was it was perhaps as much a psychic
events as anything, because you know, as a manifestation goes,
as soon as you glanced over and then glance back,
it's gone. Uh, not even a trailing anomaly from what
you're describing. So do you think that you were maybe
seeing it as much psychically as anything.
Speaker 7: That's probably good possibility. I've always attracted stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 7: One of my when I lived in California with the Navy,
one of my friends, she was the one that started
teaching me about paganism and witchcraft. And every time we're
at her house, i'd hear buzzing in my ears and
she said, they really like you, don't they. So it's
I'd always get visits at her house. So I think
I'm a little more attuned than most people, right, right,
So that it's very good possibility that only I was
the one could see what was going on in that field.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, But that's still very powerful. I mean,
I don't mean to discount or to you know, remove
any of the the the phenomenal nature of it, but
it just seems really curious to me. And you hear
that coming up in the paranormal All the time, I
was looking at this this apparition, and then we were,
you know, look locked in eyes and then suddenly my
distraction was altered for a minute, and as soon as
I look back, it's gone. And that seems like such
a common thread in people's spiritual experiences.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that wasn't the only time it's happened. We've
been driving through at night on back roads and I'd
see a hitchhiker on the side, but they were ghostly.
It wasn't an actual person there, because I could see
the stop sign or the road sign behind them through them,
and my wife wouldn't see it, but I would, and
I'd be like, oh, my god, did you see that?
And she's like no, So I think once or twice
maybe she's seen something. But I've seen it several times
on the back roads here in Georgia.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it doesn't surprise me too much
that you would be just tuned to that. And maybe
it's by virtue of growing up around it, you know,
maybe that's somehow just turned that ability on in you.
And you know, because I think that people after they
experienced something, especially at a younger age, they just seemed
to be just tuned to it, for lack of a
better term. And it sounds like you were able to
maintain that through your life.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it comes and goes the house where in
now it just happened. The other week. I walked into
our bedroom and we have a cat, and she was
laying in the doorway from the master bath to the
master bedroom. Over under my nightstand was another cat. And
we don't own another cat. My wife's seen her, my
son has seen her, so we know that we have
a spiritual the spirit of a cat living with us.
And my wife keeps telling me, and this one I
haven't seen, but I have no reason to doubt my wife.
She actually moved all our recliners out of our family
room into our living room because sitting in her recliner,
she'd watch a shadow person come out of the woods
towards our garage and then start heading towards the steps
and try and get into the house.
Speaker 2: Oh Jesus O man, So she just opted to move
the chair so she wouldn't see that anymore.
Speaker 7: Right, that passed, I put a circle around the house.
I got AsSalt circle protecting the house. Sure, and we
regularly burn sage and smudge the house and keep the
negativity out. And I've got an old antique key above
the doorways to keep out any negativity. So it's not
getting in the house, but she just got it try
to get into the house.
Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, that's that's cool. I mean, it's it's cool
that it's not in the house. But but you know,
it's got to be unerving to know that it's trying,
and you know, you know, I'm sure it's They've got
nothing but time, so it's going to continue to try
and try and try and try, all right.
Speaker 7: And like I said, she's only seen it when nobody's home,
when it's heart by herself, and but I have no
doubt that she sees it. Yeah, right, I said, But
it's never attempted anything when I'm at the house.
Speaker 2: Oh okay. Knowledge, And that's another thing that seems to
come up. And I'm not trying to sound at all
sexistly and gentlemen, but there does seem to be a
difference in our energies with with things like this that
in a lot of cases, the last person to experience
aggressive hauntings will be the male, the primary male character
in a home, and you know, whether that's a father
or the eldest male adult, they seem to be the
last to become aware of it. And I don't know,
you know, perhaps it's a difference in our energies or
or what. I don't know, but that's that is a
theme that they most often, will you know, reveal themselves
to females or children first, and then you know, work
up finally to the the most adult male around. Do
you do you recognize that too or have you ever?
Speaker 7: Really? I think the women tend to have been stronger
that I've grown up with. Okay, They always seem to
be stronger psychically, okay, And I think that's because of,
you know, just the female gender and the ability to
grow another human being inside them. I think they have
to be the stronger sex I have no doubt about
the heck, because I couldn't see pushing something out of
me like.
Speaker 2: That, right, And I want to qualify that that I'm
certainly really honestly, I'm not a sexist person or anything,
but there I just in the years and years of
researching this, there does seem to be a pattern to that,
and I don't understand what it means. Perhaps the males
are just not quite as sensitive and aren't able to
pick it up as quickly as the females. Because I
agree with you that you know there's a there's a
real strength in women that men can only dream about having.
Speaker 7: Right, And this I think it may just be the
fact that with this shadow figure, I just think it
may be just scared of me because of you know,
I've got more experience and more time in practicing paganism
than my wife does. So I started playing, I say,
playing around, but started getting interested in it in high
school when I lived when we lived in Arizona, a
lot of my friends were involved in it, and really
I was just playing around, which was probably the worst
thing you could do with any of that, just you know,
not knowing what was going on. And she recently just
really started getting involved to it, and she's more into
the herbal side of it, what we call a kitchen witch.
She likes you know, she does sigils and likes doing
stuff with herbs and incense, where I do more spiritual.
Speaker 2: And okay, yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, so, which I guess
in your situation probably strikes up a really cool balance
between the two approaches.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could.
Speaker 7: Be, but we don't practice together. We have two different
so not to discredit anything she does, it's just not
my style. And she doesn't do the rituals and stuff.
She's more of a practical type of which okay, so
she's more hands on and physical, and she won't come
with me at midnight and cast a circle under the
food full mood, whereas I won't join her while she's
in the kitchen, which whipping up you know, a potion
or anything.
Speaker 2: So right, very cool. Wow in what I meant, I
guess was that just not that you guys practice together,
but just that that balance of energies between you, that
you have a you know, different different approaches to what
you're doing.
Speaker 7: Oh, definitely, I can we have a good energy between us.
I mean, I hope. So we've been married for twenty
six years now, so yeah, so yeah, it's there is
definitely energy between us, and we've done some stuff together
and I think it's worked better. She's amazing with sigils,
I'll tell you that. So she's done some really cool
work with those. But I think you're right, the difference
between the males and the females is very very strong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so in a complimentary way. Yeah, exactly correct. But no,
I think that's amazing. So you guys have have had
activity pretty much wherever you are, is what it sounds like? Huh?
Speaker 7: Oh? Yes. We We've owned two houses since we've been together,
and both of them have had some sort of activity
going on in them. So I've been in active areas
pretty much all my life. So it's just I think Phoenix.
When we lived in Phoenix, Arizona, the only thing really
there were the UFOs. I don't remember too much of
any spiritual or anything, but that may have been just
me pushing it away at the time because I was
raised Catholic and I was very involved in the church
at that point.
Speaker 2: Oh, I see so more.
Speaker 7: Because of my parents right pushing it and shortly thereafter,
like right before I went into the Navy, is kind
of when I started dabbling in in paganism.
Speaker 2: Okay, No, you know, you talk about Arizona and such,
had you ever gone to check out the Sedona area
and some of the portals that are just in there.
Speaker 7: You know, I've been to Sedona three or four times
in my life, and it was always when I was,
you know, a teenager with my parents, Okay, and we
never really looked at it that way. Sure, we heard
a lot of the stories coming from the Superstition Mountains,
especially since there are so close to us, being in
Masa versus Phoenix. The Superstition Mountains were probably about now
and a half away, and there's a lot of stories
that came out of there, but I don't remember them. All,
and a lot of them were First Nation stories, so
they're not very open, as you know, about communicating their.
Speaker 2: Stories, right. Yeah, it's just very interesting And something that's
always really intrigued me was those stories coming out of
that area. And I've often wondered what it is geographically
about that area that makes it so such a hotspot
for that, if it's if it has to do with
just the lay lines converging in that spot, or what
it is. But yeah, there's a lot of amazing things
coming out of there apparently.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there always was. There was that heard a lot about.
I don't know if you'd call it a time warp
or a time slip, but people gaining or losing minutes
in that area that I always found interesting. I actually
had that happened to me one night. I was helping
friends out with a paper route, Okay, and we were
and this was in California again, when we were in
Kings King's County near the Sequoi National Forest.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 7: It was a lot of farming community near Fresno and
all that, and it was a really long route that
we had to drive. It wasn't one of these paper
routes where you could just ride your bike and toss
the newspaper. These were all farmlands and the driveways were
really long, and you know, you're doing this route at
two three o'clock in the morning. And the one night,
I guess it was about ten after four. I had
looked at my clock and it was like ten after
or twelve after four, and I was getting towards the
end of the route. I still had another thirty or
forty minutes to go, and we tossed some papers and
I know it had been about half an hour because
I glanced at the clock and it was like four
thirty something and I threw the last paper and I
knew it should be about four to forty five and
I looked at my clock and it was four to twenty.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so it was odd. I got home and they
couldn't believe I was home so done so early.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So I got home probably about half an hour early,
and they're like, do you miss anything? Know, all the
papers are gone, so.
Speaker 2: That's incredible. Yeah. They probably thought you just put through
them in a pile somewhere, just get done early. Oh
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