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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the Paranormal Portal podcast. As always,

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we are absolutely thrilled you're here with us. Thank you

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so much for all the support and kindness and wonderful,

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amazing messages you guys are sending us as you're discovering

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the podcast. It's absolutely heartwarming, and Don and I are

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just absolutely amazed at the amount of feedback we're getting

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from you guys, and we're just thrilled you're enjoying the shows.

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So tonight's show is going to be a good time.

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I got a great interview with Chad from Atlanta and

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he's had a whole lifetime of experiences that he's going

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to talk to us about. But you know, before that,

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we're going to get to an email from another listener

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named Sharon. But don you know, it seems to me

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that there's this phenomena that seems to happen, and it

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is that once somebody experiences a phenomena, they seem to

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be more likely to re experience phenomena after that. Have

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you have you noticed that as well throughout the course of.

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Speaker 6: This Yeah, you know, before I came to the portal,

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I say, I've never really had an experience because I

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just I seem to be numb or locked out to

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them or something like that. But when I listen to

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all these stories and I listen to the people telling

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their their their their tails, it just it just baffles

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me that once you have one, like you said, you know,

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once say somebody sees a spirit or an apparition, then

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all of a sudden they start seeing other things as well.

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And uh, it's just mind boggling to me.

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Speaker 2: It really is, and it makes it you don't seem

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like there's there's some kind of seal that you're popping

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on this deal or something that's uh, you know, like

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something there's some there's some natural resistance in our lives

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to this kind of stuff. But once you see one,

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it's like you broke the sea, and now you're going

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to see all kinds of different things. And I think

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that that's that phenomena continues to repeat itself, and that

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seems to be that certainly the situation with Chad. But

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I've heard that so many times come up over and

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over and over throughout the course of our shows. It's like, well,

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this one time I saw a ghost and then next

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thing I know, bigfoot was over near my shed, and

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then there was a UFO over the field, and it's

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like this, this cornucopia just kind of unleashes, and people

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end up experience a lot of different things, and it's

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really common, ladies and gentlemen. Is as unlikely as that

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may seem to the person who hasn't experienced anything, it's

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very common that once you experience one thing, you seem

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to be prone to experiencing other things. And perhaps perhaps

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there's just an awareness that opens up within us after

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our first experience that attunes us to this other phenomena

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that's always been there, but maybe we've just glossed right

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over it, because I really believe that we have very

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selective vision, we have very selective hearing, we have we

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have a very selective attention span. Based upon the course

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of our lives. In Western society, especially, we are pushed

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and pushed and pushed to be efficient to you know,

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nine to five, then be responsible and you know, raise

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your kids.

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Speaker 6: And go faster, do more, do more.

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Speaker 2: With less, and mow your lawn and make sure your

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house looks nice, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And

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so we just get ground into this this almost numbness

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and then something like these events happen and it's this

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amazingly profound event, and uh, it's just incredible. So, uh,

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you know, I just think that's worthy of noting at

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the first part of this episode, not that it's particularly

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only relevant to this episode, but it's just something that

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I've been thinking about a whole bunch lately, and it

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seems to continue and continue and continue. So what do

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you think about that? Don you know?

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Speaker 6: I and I grew up in Seattle, in the Seattle area,

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that you know, that metropolis, and you know you would

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expect to see a spirit, a ghost, something more like that.

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you're going to see a big foot in the middle

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of downtown Seattle or you know, even in the many

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mind that this is the way it happens. And it's like,

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you're right, You're right. It's like breaking a seal. It's

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like that Seventh Seal and then everything just comes crushing

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in and you start having these miraculous and interesting things

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happened to you. So here I am. We'll see what happens.

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you saw the anomalous lights. And I'm not saying it

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studio too. Yeah, I'm waiting for something else to happen.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna go out to your truck tonight and this

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beam of light's gonna come and all a sudden, your

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truck will be sitting there in the morning where your

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house don happened to him Neil, Yeah, that's right. But anyway,

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let's get to this email from Sharon Guys. I read

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this before and it's just really an incredible event, very

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wild experience she had. So let's go to that. And

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it says, Hey, hey, Brett, I enjoy listening to your

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show and it's been especially entertaining here at Halloween time,

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and thank you. I appreciate that. I hope you enjoyed

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this spooky story from my youth. Well, I grew up

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in the country, the last house on a dead end

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dirt road. The house was surrounded by woods, and as

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a result of that, it was really quiet and isolated.

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The house had six plus rooms plus two baths and

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no hallway. Each room had access to at least two

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other rooms, and the main rooms were like six blocks

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laid out in two rows of three rooms with bathrooms

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stucked in the middle. The layout allowed you to make

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a circle through the house or a figure eight pattern

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if you wanted. The kitchen and living room were on

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the front side, facing the driveway and road coming in

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and the four bedrooms and paths were on the backside,

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with views of the barn pastures and the surrounding hills.

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can remember, but only openly discussed as a family, starting

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at around nineteen seventy. Sometimes we would get a little spooked,

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but we were mostly just curious. However, the following is

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one of the most unsettling events that happened to me.

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I was sixteen in nineteen seventy seven and had my

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driving license. Back then, you could have full drive, having

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privileges the very day you turned sixteen. Why I often

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drove to school and back, and sometimes with my brothers.

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school alone, seeing no other car. As I arrived home,

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I thought no one else was there. I went in

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through the kitchen, unlocking the door, and placed my backpacking

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keys on the kitchen table, and as I did this,

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I heard footsteps. It sounded like there were at least

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two rooms away at the back of the house. While

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into the bedroom next to the kitchen and called out

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that I was home. As I continued through the bedroom

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and into the next I called out again, and I

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wondered why nobody answered and why whoever it was had

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not parked in front. My two older brothers also drove,

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and sometimes there could be as many as five cars

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at our house. Because of that, we had extra parking

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space in the back of the house near the barn,

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and I thought someone must have been parked in back,

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and that's why I didn't see the car. As I

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walked into the third room, which was the bedroom at

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the opposite end of the house from the kitchen, I

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glanced out the window and saw the extra parking spaces

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were empty, and that's when I started feeling uneasy. I

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fell silent, and I softened my steps. I walked quickly

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and quietly through the bathroom and into the next bedroom,

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listening and glancing out windows, looking for cars to help

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me identify who was in the house with me. But

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there were no cars, and I realized the footsteps were

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not from my family. I began to feel fear, and

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my mind was scrambling to understand just what was going on.

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I thought it had to be an intruder, and the

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intruder must have heard me. I thought maybe they would

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run out the kitchen door, which I had left open,

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and the footsteps, however, continued at that same steady pace,

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not slowing up or speeding up to indicate my presence

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bothered them. They made a big circle around the entire house,

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with me just a room or two behind. I never

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saw anyone, or even a shadow of anyone, but I

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just heard the footsteps clearly. And as I passed through

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the last bedroom and approached the living room, I heard

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the footsteps pass through the kitchen and not go outside

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as I thought they would, but rather back around, as

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if to make a second lap through our house. That

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didn't make any sense and can really confuse me. If

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it were someone wanted to harm me, they could have

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done that by now. If it were someone trying to

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rob us, they had a chance to run away and

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didn't take it. And that's when I began to realize

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that it was not a person, but instead it was

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the family ghost. I had heard the phantom footsteps before,

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but never for this long, and never when I was alone,

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and because I was alone, I was extraordinarily creeped out

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by it. By the time I came full circle once

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again in the kitchen, I had made up my mind.

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Without breaking stride, I passed the table, grabbed my bag

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in keys, walked out of the house, locking the door

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behind me, and left. I was too frightened to look back.

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I went into town and waited until I knew someone

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else would be home before returning. Well, I told my

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family what had happened, and they all believed me because

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we all had experienced strange things over the years, and

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most of us had heard the mysterious footsteps at least once.

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That somehow made it better. But still I avoided being

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home alone after that. I hope you enjoyed that story,

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and I wish you all a happy Halloween. Wow, it's

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not just creepy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, when you're expect, not expecting somebody to

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be home and you hear these things, Yeah, you know,

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it's really it's really disturbing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't imagine. And you know, and I don't

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mean to sound sexist here, but I mean, obviously women

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seem to have a lot more to worry about than

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men in most cases like this. You know, unfortunately, women

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are targeted quite a bit for you know, heinous acts,

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and you know, and granted they should feel more cautious

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in those kind of situations. But my god, I don't

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think it matters if you're a man or woman in

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a situation like that. Just that idea that somebody else

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is in that house. Yeah, and they're pacing you through

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your her own house. Yeah, and you can't catch up

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on them. You're not seeing any indication of someone being there,

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but you continually hear the very plain as day sound

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of footsteps, and you know, and it sounds intelligent. So

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here's the deal, ladies and gentlemen. There too major types

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of hauntings, one of which is an intelligent haunting, and

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the other one is a residual haunting. And a residual haunting.

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I know I've covered this before, but forgive the redundancy,

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but we get new listeners all the time. Or residual

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haunting is kind of like a just a recorded event

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that repeats. And while these footsteps could be residual, the

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fact that it remained ahead of her no matter where

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she was is to me seems intelligent, Like it was

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moving away from her continuously right based upon where she was.

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It was staying just ahead of her and just out

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of sight, and that to me really seems to indicate

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at least some kind of intelligence at work there, you

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know what I mean. Done?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, and and and it's really yeah, if it wasn't,

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if she had a chance to catch up to it,

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if it you know, paused or you know, turned around

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and went the other way, or even just the noise

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a residual thing, because it's following that same pattern, you know.

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think it was cognizantive where where she was, where it was,

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and it did not want to be discovered in any

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more fashion than being heard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Wow, it just wanted to be heard. It

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just wanted to be ahead. And it seems to you know,

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have done that for the specific reason. And I'm just

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speculating here, but to intimidate the fact that they all

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had so many experiences with this ghost through the years,

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it seems odd that it would suddenly want to be

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spooky and creepy. And maybe it was always trying to

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be spooky and creepy, but just the fact that they

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had all kind of come become used to it, right,

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But to pull out this one instance and just be

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absolutely wackyest. It's pretty bizarre.

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Speaker 6: Now, she said she was sixteen because she had just

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gotten her driver's license, right, yeah, So why hadn't she

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heard it before or was she just not well? She

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said that she had, Oh, she just never heard it

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this long. Like it they would hear these random footsteps

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here and there, says more towards the intelligence.

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Speaker 2: Part, Right, yeah, yeah, because it was they would hear

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these ghostly footsteps here and there from time to time,

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but they didn't seem to have any you know, pattern

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to them other than that they occurred. But this time

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it was like they kept ahead of her and on

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a specific pattern based upon position. You know. So it's

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a very intelligent and type of activity. I think, I

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really do.

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Speaker 7: So.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like, you know, for the most part, Sharon,

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that your your experiences were really horrible. It just sounds

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like something was present and seems to have wanted you

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to know that it was present. But I think it's

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it's incredibly profound and it seems to indicate that there's

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probably someone that's been there for an awful long time,

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probably before you guys were there, and has chosen to

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stay or had chosen to stay. I don't you know,

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I don't believe you're probably there anymore. I I but

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I got a commend you to walk two laps through

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your house following ghost footsteps. That's pretty brave. I think

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I would have made it about half the house and

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called it a day. That's it. I'm going to this door.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but she's stuck it out. She's stuck it out

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until she made that next lap to grab her keys

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and stuff and then went nope and got out of there.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, they say, if you have something following you,

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or something you know, intimidating, you don't run, just be

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calm as a cucumber.

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Speaker 2: Right, gather you stuff.

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Speaker 6: And that's exactly what she did. She just walked in there,

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you know, made the second circuit, walked in, grabbed her stuff,

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and walked right out the door.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well she didn't run, that's true. I got to

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give her credit for that too. I mean, really, it's

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amazing how bold and brave some people are. I'd be

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like Zins, Yeah exactly, I would have got full Scooby

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Doo and Shaggy and that deal. Yeah. Wow, but no,

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it's great story. Yeah, it really is, and it's and

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it really does identify it's. It's tough to pull it out.

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that most of the activity there is residual. Most of

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it sounds like it just happens without knowing too much

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of the other activity going on in that house. But

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but again, I suspect that house has some history and

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there's a presence there and it just wants to be

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recognized every once in a while. But that sounds like

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a really interesting host due there's not even a hallway

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in the whole place. Wow.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was kind of amazed at that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder why. I don't think I'm conceptualizing it

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as I'm reading it, trying to figure out what does

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this look like? You know, and it just sounds like

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a bunch of rooms with doors between them. Yeah, and

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that's it. But what a unique layout. I don't know,

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I I've never heard of that before.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Every time I picture a house, it always has a.

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Speaker 6: Hallway at least to the bedrooms.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. You got like the living room, kitchen, maybe

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a launder room in the front end or something like that,

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and then you've got a hallway and then the rest

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of the stuff, the bathroom and the bedrooms. But it

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sounds really interesting, very cool, and I really appreciate you

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sending that in. Thank you so much, because we thrive

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on stuff like that. Here in the Portal's our that's

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our bread and butter. And it's your guys's involvement that

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has made this show amazing. It truly is. You guys

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have brought so much to the table. Was all your

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listeners out there. You guys have brought your experiences, You've

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brought your thoughts, you've brought your you know, your ideas

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to the table. And I tell you what I I

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you know, I'll say it again, I've already said it

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many times, but I have learned more about the paranormal

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by far by listening to the things you guys talk

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about in your experiences than I have from anywhere else.

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And I've learned a great deal from other places, don't

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get me wrong, but it's the nuances that you guys

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talk about. It's the way you see things that really

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makes it unique. And every time somebody sends me a story,

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it feels like I get another piece of that puzzle,

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you know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: Done Yeah, absolutely, you know, it's it's and it's the

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sense of community you feel, you feel that you're safe,

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you know, sharing these things, and we appreciate that too.

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You know, we're a paranormal safe spot and it really

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honored that you've shared that with us, and we do look,

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we do hope that you send us more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. If there's more of those encounters and stuff, Sharon, please,

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we'd love to hear more because that's great fodder for

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the listeners. I know I love those kind of stories

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and I'm excited to hear more if you've got more,

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or any of you. All that goes for any of

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you guys out there, please email on your stories. That's

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that's the stuff that makes these shows great. But anyway,

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I think we're gonna go to a break here, quick done,

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and then we'll continue on with our interview with Chad Chat.

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All right, don't go away, everybody. We'll be right back

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if I can find if I can find the button,

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all right, all right, everybody, thanks so much for being

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here on the show tonight and being a part of

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the Paranormal Portal family. I got a great guest lined

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up for you tonight joining us now. Is Chad from

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Atlanta who's going to go through his journey and share

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some incredible encounters and experiences. So, first of all, Chad,

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welcome to the show.

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Speaker 7: Thank you very much. I appreciate you inviting me on.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, it's totally my pleasure. In fact, this is

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truly the part of doing all the shows that we

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do that I enjoy the most is just getting an

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opportunity to talk with people and to look through their

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eyes and to see things through their experiences. And I'm

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really sincerely honest when I say that, but I probably

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have learned more about the paranormal by listening to people's

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experiences than I ever have from doing research on my own.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I appreciate the forum. You know. I tell my

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story and a lot of people look at me like

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I'm crazy. So there's not a lot of people out

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there that actually believe me. There's a lot of skeptics

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out there.

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Speaker 2: So well, you're you're are kind of crazy, brother, So

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we're glad you're here. But why why don't you start

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us out with how did this journey begin for you?

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Speaker 7: Okay? Well, I was born and raised in Writing, Pennsylvania,

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which is in Burke's County and it is probably one

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of the most haunted places in the United States. There's

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several books that have been written called ghost Stories of

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Burke's County that document a lot of hauntings in that area.

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The house I grew up in was haunted, just doors

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opening and closing by themselves in a pattern. It seemed

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like a not a Sunday but residual haunting. The attic

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had a real creepy feel to it. I never liked

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going up in the attic as a kid. My first

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solid experience after that was actually not even a ghost.

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It was I believe a Sasquatch. Oh wow. Yeah. I

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was about fourteen, and we were in Antitham, Pennsylvania, and

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it's a lot of battles had been fought there. It

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was a home of the Hessians for a while. My

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stepbrother's grandmother owned a house that used to be a

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riding gun club, and we had had dinner there on

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a Sunday night, and it was in the fall. I

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believe I think it was October time frame, because it

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was only about seven thirty and it was already really dark.

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So after dinner, my stepbrother and I decided to go

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walk the trails of the Riding gun Club. So as

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we're heading down the trail towards a pond, I heard

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a noise behind me and I kind of got to

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shiver up my spine and hairs were standing up on

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the back of my neck and I turned around and

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it was hard to make out. It was really dark,

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and it's probably about six and a half to seven

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foot tall, full dark hair that blended into the night.

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But the thing I remember most are the eyes. They

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were glowing red eyes, and I don't know if they

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were given off light of their own, but there was

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no I didn't have a flashlight, so it wasn't eye shine,

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but they were wide like I surprised it. And I

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know I was listening to one of your other episodes

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the other night and Stephen, you were talking to about

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the hairy Man in Alaska, and it kind of reminded

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me that, you know, a lot of times you surprise

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them or they mess up and they get caught right,

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And I think that's I think it was trying to

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sneak behind us to get to the pond, and it

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stepped on a twig or something, but I caught it

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by a surprise because its eyes were like, why. It

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reminded me of the Patterson Gimlin film Sasquatch, that kind

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of shape. It was really large and I could see

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fangs almost like incisors.

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Speaker 2: Wow, okay, And it was maybe a.

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Speaker 7: Three second glance. I turned around to grab my step

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brother and say, hey, guess what. And I turned back around.

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It was gone, no noise, no nothing, just gone. I

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headed back up to the house and he followed me

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because I was running. And we get back to the house.

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I told everybody what I saw, and nobody, of course

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believed me, being thirteen. They said it was just a

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figment of my imagination. But after that, everyone outside at

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dark again up.

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Speaker 2: There, Yeah, I don't blame you. Wow.

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Speaker 7: So that one was really interesting and that was my

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first real experience with anything like that. I guess I

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was probably from my next experience. I think I was eighteen.

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I just came home from boot camp for the Navy,

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and we had moved to Arizona earlier that year, and

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it was springtime. It was probably about nine thirty ten

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o'clock at night, and it was again at night dark.

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I was relaxing in my parents' hot tub in the yard.

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I was looking up at the sky, and three balls

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of light shot over my head and they were probably

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about seventy to eighty feet above the house. And they stopped,

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and when they went over my head, at the height

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they were at, they were about the size of a

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softball that they're in comparison, Okay, when they stopped, they

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were about they looked to be the size of a

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golf ball. And then they shot back over me and

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kind of hovered just above me for a minute, and

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then they started heading back away from me and stopped

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and shot one by one straight up into the air

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and disappeared.

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Speaker 2: Man, so you're you're seeing these as most likely some

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kind of physical structure, not just a not just an

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orb of light or something.

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Speaker 7: Right, right, it seemed like there was something. It wasn't

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an orb it wasn't spiritually, it looked to be more UFO,

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like it was a glowing globe. And I know Phoenix

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is known for sightings with the triangle shape UFO. That

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was sighted there sure several years ago, so, and it

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was we were not far I think forty miles from

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Luke Air Force Base, So you know, there was a

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lot of sightings in that area around that time frame, right, Yeah,

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that was a real interesting night. You know, it's something

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I always like to remember and recount to people, and

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that when I get a lot more people believing me

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00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,160
than the Sasquatch story.

477
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: So isn't that funny that that there's a distinction there

478
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,920
between different phenomena that for many people would seem impossible,

479
00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:37,400
But there's such a discernment between which one people are

480
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,079
willing to accept exactly.

481
00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 7: It's amazing. I've seen stuff on the ship in the

482
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,200
middle of the Pacific Ocean that just a lot of

483
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,839
people accept, but other people are telling me I'm crazy.

484
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:57,640
So wow, it's you know, I've seen flight footage of

485
00:29:58,839 --> 00:30:05,559
unexplained glowing objects, all sorts of crazy stuff, radio calls

486
00:30:05,599 --> 00:30:09,319
of we're not sure what it is. You just see

487
00:30:10,039 --> 00:30:12,319
glowing mists in the middle of the ocean, almost like

488
00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:17,640
the Northern lights, but you're around the equator. So it's

489
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,480
really interesting having seen all that and being you know,

490
00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:26,799
attuned to the spiritual world and knowing that we're not

491
00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:27,960
the only ones out there.

492
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 2: So that is that's really powerful stuff. And you know,

493
00:30:32,039 --> 00:30:35,279
I imagine being out there on the ocean. You guys

494
00:30:35,319 --> 00:30:37,519
on a ship are probably the most interesting thing going

495
00:30:37,519 --> 00:30:40,240
on out there, So it doesn't surprise me that they would,

496
00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:44,559
you know, they wouldn't keep coming checking you guys out right.

497
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,839
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's pretty neat. I spent about a year at sea,

498
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,119
so the most we saw were, like I said, some

499
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,839
of the videos from the flight footage of the pilot seeing.

500
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: UFOs, all the tic TACs.

501
00:30:59,519 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, and you know, the glowing mists. Those were

502
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:09,559
always neat. Sometimes you'd see trails following the ship that

503
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,920
were glowing in the water. And I don't know if

504
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,279
it was just like an algae that was.

505
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,319
Speaker 2: Like a biolum.

506
00:31:20,039 --> 00:31:22,599
Speaker 7: What, but there'd always at night there'd be a trail

507
00:31:23,079 --> 00:31:25,680
following us. So that was always cool to see.

508
00:31:26,519 --> 00:31:29,119
Speaker 2: I'll bet you that would be just an incredible to

509
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,039
witness in person.

510
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was, and to be, you know, just out

511
00:31:34,759 --> 00:31:38,400
of high school and that young and seeing and experiencing that,

512
00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:41,000
it really kind of sets the tone for the rest

513
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,480
of your life that you I want to know more,

514
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,640
I want to see more, I want to know where

515
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,279
this is all coming from. I think that's what led

516
00:31:49,319 --> 00:31:55,599
me into paganism, and you know, seeing the different spiritual

517
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:56,519
paths there are.

518
00:31:57,279 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely wow.

519
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,759
Speaker 7: So one of the other things I saw I was

520
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,720
in my twenties and it was after I was married.

521
00:32:09,799 --> 00:32:12,359
My wife and I moved to her hometown in Georgia

522
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:20,720
and we lived out near Atlanta Motor Speedway. And the

523
00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:27,119
speedway is right along Georgia Highway twenty and on one

524
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,440
side of Highway twenty where fields. It was owned by

525
00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:33,000
a I guess farmer. It was all farmland and pastures,

526
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,559
but he never kept any livestock on it or grew

527
00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:39,799
anything on it. He charged ten dollars for people to

528
00:32:39,839 --> 00:32:45,640
park during events at Atlantamotor Speedway. Oh, so we were driving.

529
00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:49,319
It was probably around this time of year, around the

530
00:32:49,359 --> 00:32:53,319
thirty first, and I believe we're headed to a party.

531
00:32:53,359 --> 00:32:54,960
I'm not sure where we were going, but it was

532
00:32:55,319 --> 00:32:58,519
dark and it was at night, and right before you

533
00:32:58,559 --> 00:33:02,480
get to Atlanta Motor Speedway, there's this old, decrepit house

534
00:33:03,079 --> 00:33:06,440
sitting back in the woods and it kind of reminds

535
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,480
you of the house from Blair Witch Project. It's real creepy.

536
00:33:10,319 --> 00:33:12,680
I've seen anything back there, but the feeling you get

537
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,079
from it is kind of odd. Sure, So we had

538
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,319
just passed that house and I was kind of glazing

539
00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:25,200
off into the fields and my wife was driving, and

540
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,880
there was a mist rising up out of the fields

541
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,200
that the guy let people park on, and as I

542
00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:35,359
was glancing at it, I start seeing figures in the mist,

543
00:33:36,039 --> 00:33:38,240
and I see they have muskets and they're wearing Civil

544
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:44,400
war uniforms. Oh man, this whole civil war battle play out,

545
00:33:44,519 --> 00:33:49,279
is my wife's driving and they're all missed. It wasn't solid,

546
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,839
so I don't think it was a time loop thing.

547
00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:55,440
It just seemed like it was like a residual haunting

548
00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,440
of this entire civil war battle playing out. And I

549
00:34:00,519 --> 00:34:02,319
glanced over to my wife and I could see the

550
00:34:02,359 --> 00:34:05,839
hairs on her arms standing up, and she felt something,

551
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,960
but I asked her to look over to her right

552
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,239
at the time. She looked over and I look back.

553
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,079
There was no miss to know anything. Everything was gone

554
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,800
and it was just the fields.

555
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,119
Speaker 2: Wow, that's really that's really incredible. So do you think

556
00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:23,280
that it was it was perhaps as much a psychic

557
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:28,480
events as anything, because you know, as a manifestation goes,

558
00:34:28,519 --> 00:34:30,440
as soon as you glanced over and then glance back,

559
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,480
it's gone. Uh, not even a trailing anomaly from what

560
00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:37,199
you're describing. So do you think that you were maybe

561
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,519
seeing it as much psychically as anything.

562
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 7: That's probably good possibility. I've always attracted stuff like that.

563
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:46,119
Speaker 2: Sure.

564
00:34:47,039 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 7: One of my when I lived in California with the Navy,

565
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,119
one of my friends, she was the one that started

566
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:59,320
teaching me about paganism and witchcraft. And every time we're

567
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:04,559
at her house, i'd hear buzzing in my ears and

568
00:35:04,599 --> 00:35:09,000
she said, they really like you, don't they. So it's

569
00:35:09,079 --> 00:35:12,840
I'd always get visits at her house. So I think

570
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,280
I'm a little more attuned than most people, right, right,

571
00:35:17,159 --> 00:35:19,920
So that it's very good possibility that only I was

572
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,239
the one could see what was going on in that field.

573
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, But that's still very powerful. I mean,

574
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,519
I don't mean to discount or to you know, remove

575
00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:35,480
any of the the the phenomenal nature of it, but

576
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:37,440
it just seems really curious to me. And you hear

577
00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:39,960
that coming up in the paranormal All the time, I

578
00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:42,239
was looking at this this apparition, and then we were,

579
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,159
you know, look locked in eyes and then suddenly my

580
00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:47,239
distraction was altered for a minute, and as soon as

581
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,719
I look back, it's gone. And that seems like such

582
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:55,360
a common thread in people's spiritual experiences.

583
00:35:55,639 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that wasn't the only time it's happened. We've

584
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,960
been driving through at night on back roads and I'd

585
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,960
see a hitchhiker on the side, but they were ghostly.

586
00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:09,000
It wasn't an actual person there, because I could see

587
00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:13,559
the stop sign or the road sign behind them through them,

588
00:36:14,159 --> 00:36:16,440
and my wife wouldn't see it, but I would, and

589
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,119
I'd be like, oh, my god, did you see that?

590
00:36:18,199 --> 00:36:23,199
And she's like no, So I think once or twice

591
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,679
maybe she's seen something. But I've seen it several times

592
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,559
on the back roads here in Georgia.

593
00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

594
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it doesn't surprise me too much

595
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,559
that you would be just tuned to that. And maybe

596
00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:38,360
it's by virtue of growing up around it, you know,

597
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,639
maybe that's somehow just turned that ability on in you.

598
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,599
And you know, because I think that people after they

599
00:36:44,639 --> 00:36:47,880
experienced something, especially at a younger age, they just seemed

600
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,800
to be just tuned to it, for lack of a

601
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,679
better term. And it sounds like you were able to

602
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:53,960
maintain that through your life.

603
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,079
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it comes and goes the house where in

604
00:36:58,199 --> 00:37:02,880
now it just happened. The other week. I walked into

605
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,440
our bedroom and we have a cat, and she was

606
00:37:06,519 --> 00:37:09,559
laying in the doorway from the master bath to the

607
00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:14,519
master bedroom. Over under my nightstand was another cat. And

608
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:19,199
we don't own another cat. My wife's seen her, my

609
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,880
son has seen her, so we know that we have

610
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,920
a spiritual the spirit of a cat living with us.

611
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,880
And my wife keeps telling me, and this one I

612
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,679
haven't seen, but I have no reason to doubt my wife.

613
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:39,599
She actually moved all our recliners out of our family

614
00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:44,679
room into our living room because sitting in her recliner,

615
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,800
she'd watch a shadow person come out of the woods

616
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,559
towards our garage and then start heading towards the steps

617
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,079
and try and get into the house.

618
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:57,679
Speaker 2: Oh Jesus O man, So she just opted to move

619
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,440
the chair so she wouldn't see that anymore.

620
00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 7: Right, that passed, I put a circle around the house.

621
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,159
I got AsSalt circle protecting the house. Sure, and we

622
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,559
regularly burn sage and smudge the house and keep the

623
00:38:11,599 --> 00:38:15,960
negativity out. And I've got an old antique key above

624
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,199
the doorways to keep out any negativity. So it's not

625
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,480
getting in the house, but she just got it try

626
00:38:22,519 --> 00:38:23,400
to get into the house.

627
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,119
Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, that's that's cool. I mean, it's it's cool

628
00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:30,199
that it's not in the house. But but you know,

629
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,159
it's got to be unerving to know that it's trying,

630
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,239
and you know, you know, I'm sure it's They've got

631
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,360
nothing but time, so it's going to continue to try

632
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,480
and try and try and try, all right.

633
00:38:38,519 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 7: And like I said, she's only seen it when nobody's home,

634
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,440
when it's heart by herself, and but I have no

635
00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:49,000
doubt that she sees it. Yeah, right, I said, But

636
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,239
it's never attempted anything when I'm at the house.

637
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 2: Oh okay. Knowledge, And that's another thing that seems to

638
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,440
come up. And I'm not trying to sound at all

639
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,599
sexistly and gentlemen, but there does seem to be a

640
00:39:02,679 --> 00:39:06,320
difference in our energies with with things like this that

641
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,039
in a lot of cases, the last person to experience

642
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,920
aggressive hauntings will be the male, the primary male character

643
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,840
in a home, and you know, whether that's a father

644
00:39:17,519 --> 00:39:21,159
or the eldest male adult, they seem to be the

645
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,039
last to become aware of it. And I don't know,

646
00:39:23,199 --> 00:39:26,880
you know, perhaps it's a difference in our energies or

647
00:39:27,079 --> 00:39:29,239
or what. I don't know, but that's that is a

648
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,840
theme that they most often, will you know, reveal themselves

649
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,840
to females or children first, and then you know, work

650
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:43,960
up finally to the the most adult male around. Do

651
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,960
you do you recognize that too or have you ever?

652
00:39:50,039 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 7: Really? I think the women tend to have been stronger

653
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,800
that I've grown up with. Okay, They always seem to

654
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:02,639
be stronger psychically, okay, And I think that's because of,

655
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,679
you know, just the female gender and the ability to

656
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:10,039
grow another human being inside them. I think they have

657
00:40:10,119 --> 00:40:13,360
to be the stronger sex I have no doubt about

658
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,000
the heck, because I couldn't see pushing something out of

659
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:16,440
me like.

660
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 2: That, right, And I want to qualify that that I'm

661
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,400
certainly really honestly, I'm not a sexist person or anything,

662
00:40:22,639 --> 00:40:25,119
but there I just in the years and years of

663
00:40:25,159 --> 00:40:28,159
researching this, there does seem to be a pattern to that,

664
00:40:28,199 --> 00:40:30,920
and I don't understand what it means. Perhaps the males

665
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,360
are just not quite as sensitive and aren't able to

666
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,639
pick it up as quickly as the females. Because I

667
00:40:35,679 --> 00:40:37,960
agree with you that you know there's a there's a

668
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,480
real strength in women that men can only dream about having.

669
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,599
Speaker 7: Right, And this I think it may just be the

670
00:40:46,599 --> 00:40:50,920
fact that with this shadow figure, I just think it

671
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,280
may be just scared of me because of you know,

672
00:40:53,679 --> 00:40:59,199
I've got more experience and more time in practicing paganism

673
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:04,880
than my wife does. So I started playing, I say,

674
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,119
playing around, but started getting interested in it in high

675
00:41:08,159 --> 00:41:11,239
school when I lived when we lived in Arizona, a

676
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,199
lot of my friends were involved in it, and really

677
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,159
I was just playing around, which was probably the worst

678
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,400
thing you could do with any of that, just you know,

679
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:26,840
not knowing what was going on. And she recently just

680
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:31,159
really started getting involved to it, and she's more into

681
00:41:31,199 --> 00:41:35,960
the herbal side of it, what we call a kitchen witch.

682
00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:42,079
She likes you know, she does sigils and likes doing

683
00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:46,840
stuff with herbs and incense, where I do more spiritual.

684
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 2: And okay, yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, so, which I guess

685
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,679
in your situation probably strikes up a really cool balance

686
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:00,800
between the two approaches.

687
00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could.

688
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 7: Be, but we don't practice together. We have two different

689
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:13,360
so not to discredit anything she does, it's just not

690
00:42:13,559 --> 00:42:18,679
my style. And she doesn't do the rituals and stuff.

691
00:42:18,679 --> 00:42:25,679
She's more of a practical type of which okay, so

692
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,280
she's more hands on and physical, and she won't come

693
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,119
with me at midnight and cast a circle under the

694
00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:37,559
food full mood, whereas I won't join her while she's

695
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:40,840
in the kitchen, which whipping up you know, a potion

696
00:42:41,199 --> 00:42:42,719
or anything.

697
00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: So right, very cool. Wow in what I meant, I

698
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,360
guess was that just not that you guys practice together,

699
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,639
but just that that balance of energies between you, that

700
00:42:53,679 --> 00:42:57,239
you have a you know, different different approaches to what

701
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:57,719
you're doing.

702
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,679
Speaker 7: Oh, definitely, I can we have a good energy between us.

703
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,400
I mean, I hope. So we've been married for twenty

704
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:11,360
six years now, so yeah, so yeah, it's there is

705
00:43:11,519 --> 00:43:17,880
definitely energy between us, and we've done some stuff together

706
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:22,039
and I think it's worked better. She's amazing with sigils,

707
00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:24,880
I'll tell you that. So she's done some really cool

708
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:36,000
work with those. But I think you're right, the difference

709
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,400
between the males and the females is very very strong.

710
00:43:40,039 --> 00:43:44,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, so in a complimentary way. Yeah, exactly correct. But no,

711
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,519
I think that's amazing. So you guys have have had

712
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,519
activity pretty much wherever you are, is what it sounds like? Huh?

713
00:43:53,199 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 7: Oh? Yes. We We've owned two houses since we've been together,

714
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,320
and both of them have had some sort of activity

715
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:09,159
going on in them. So I've been in active areas

716
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:14,360
pretty much all my life. So it's just I think Phoenix.

717
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:17,920
When we lived in Phoenix, Arizona, the only thing really

718
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,840
there were the UFOs. I don't remember too much of

719
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:27,320
any spiritual or anything, but that may have been just

720
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,039
me pushing it away at the time because I was

721
00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:33,679
raised Catholic and I was very involved in the church

722
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:34,360
at that point.

723
00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:37,559
Speaker 2: Oh, I see so more.

724
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 7: Because of my parents right pushing it and shortly thereafter,

725
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,559
like right before I went into the Navy, is kind

726
00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:49,960
of when I started dabbling in in paganism.

727
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 2: Okay, No, you know, you talk about Arizona and such,

728
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,599
had you ever gone to check out the Sedona area

729
00:44:58,639 --> 00:45:00,639
and some of the portals that are just in there.

730
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 7: You know, I've been to Sedona three or four times

731
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,840
in my life, and it was always when I was,

732
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,320
you know, a teenager with my parents, Okay, and we

733
00:45:13,559 --> 00:45:17,039
never really looked at it that way. Sure, we heard

734
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:20,639
a lot of the stories coming from the Superstition Mountains,

735
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:27,519
especially since there are so close to us, being in

736
00:45:27,639 --> 00:45:32,000
Masa versus Phoenix. The Superstition Mountains were probably about now

737
00:45:32,039 --> 00:45:34,159
and a half away, and there's a lot of stories

738
00:45:34,199 --> 00:45:36,760
that came out of there, but I don't remember them. All,

739
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,599
and a lot of them were First Nation stories, so

740
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:46,360
they're not very open, as you know, about communicating their.

741
00:45:46,679 --> 00:45:51,519
Speaker 2: Stories, right. Yeah, it's just very interesting And something that's

742
00:45:51,559 --> 00:45:54,599
always really intrigued me was those stories coming out of

743
00:45:54,599 --> 00:45:58,599
that area. And I've often wondered what it is geographically

744
00:45:58,639 --> 00:46:02,000
about that area that makes it so such a hotspot

745
00:46:02,039 --> 00:46:04,760
for that, if it's if it has to do with

746
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,599
just the lay lines converging in that spot, or what

747
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,039
it is. But yeah, there's a lot of amazing things

748
00:46:10,079 --> 00:46:11,079
coming out of there apparently.

749
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, there always was. There was that heard a lot about.

750
00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:19,559
I don't know if you'd call it a time warp

751
00:46:19,679 --> 00:46:24,039
or a time slip, but people gaining or losing minutes

752
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:29,719
in that area that I always found interesting. I actually

753
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,599
had that happened to me one night. I was helping

754
00:46:31,639 --> 00:46:36,199
friends out with a paper route, Okay, and we were

755
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,880
and this was in California again, when we were in

756
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:47,559
Kings King's County near the Sequoi National Forest.

757
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:46,559
Speaker 2: Okay.

758
00:46:47,679 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 7: It was a lot of farming community near Fresno and

759
00:46:50,519 --> 00:46:54,599
all that, and it was a really long route that

760
00:46:54,639 --> 00:46:56,280
we had to drive. It wasn't one of these paper

761
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,400
routes where you could just ride your bike and toss

762
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,159
the newspaper. These were all farmlands and the driveways were

763
00:47:02,599 --> 00:47:06,679
really long, and you know, you're doing this route at

764
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,559
two three o'clock in the morning. And the one night,

765
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:16,519
I guess it was about ten after four. I had

766
00:47:16,519 --> 00:47:19,000
looked at my clock and it was like ten after

767
00:47:19,079 --> 00:47:22,679
or twelve after four, and I was getting towards the

768
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,559
end of the route. I still had another thirty or

769
00:47:25,599 --> 00:47:29,440
forty minutes to go, and we tossed some papers and

770
00:47:30,199 --> 00:47:31,840
I know it had been about half an hour because

771
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,760
I glanced at the clock and it was like four

772
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,800
thirty something and I threw the last paper and I

773
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,559
knew it should be about four to forty five and

774
00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:41,760
I looked at my clock and it was four to twenty.

775
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 2: Wow.

776
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, so it was odd. I got home and they

777
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,159
couldn't believe I was home so done so early.

778
00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

779
00:47:53,119 --> 00:47:57,079
Speaker 7: So I got home probably about half an hour early,

780
00:47:58,199 --> 00:48:00,519
and they're like, do you miss anything? Know, all the

781
00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:02,639
papers are gone, so.

782
00:48:04,039 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: That's incredible. Yeah. They probably thought you just put through

783
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,840
them in a pile somewhere, just get done early. Oh

784
00:48:11,119 --> 00:48:14,599
that's great. All right, guys, thank you so much for

785
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00:48:17,199 --> 00:48:20,000
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