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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for joining us. Am I pronouncing your name correctly?

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<v Speaker 1>Is the last name Lee? Is that the way to

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<v Speaker 1>pronounce yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Sir?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, good?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us a little bit about your product here. This

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<v Speaker 1>is I mentioned it before. It is to help people

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<v Speaker 1>in a choking situation. The company, by the way, is

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<v Speaker 1>lifevac dot net. Tell us a little bit about the

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<v Speaker 1>product that you developed there. You're the CEO, the inventor

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<v Speaker 1>or the founder of the company. And again your name

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<v Speaker 1>is Arthur Lee, so tell us a little bit about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Arthur. Well, first off, thank you thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 2>As we get the word out there about life Back,

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<v Speaker 2>we saved more lives. I think we saved nine lives yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a very, like you said, very simple device.

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<v Speaker 2>It's basically a plunger. And if you've done the hind

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<v Speaker 2>lick and it's not worked, or you can't get your

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<v Speaker 2>arms around the person, or they're in a wheelchair, numerous

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<v Speaker 2>reasons that it will not work or cannot be done.

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<v Speaker 2>The light back is as simple. As you place it

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<v Speaker 2>on the person, you push it down. The air will

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<v Speaker 2>vent out the side, so we'll push it further down

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<v Speaker 2>and quick tug and it'll pull out whatever was choking here.

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<v Speaker 2>And today we're coming up on four thousand people saved

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<v Speaker 2>and coming up on three thousand children that have been

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<v Speaker 2>saved with life fact from a choking emergency.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like, excuse me, I'm not choking here.

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<v Speaker 2>I got you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you can send one of those through the

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<v Speaker 1>pipes there, that'd be great. Sorry, tell us a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about that, because you know, I'm like, maneuver can

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<v Speaker 1>be difficult. The maneuver, as you point out, if you

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<v Speaker 1>got somebody who's overweight you can't get your arms around them,

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<v Speaker 1>or if they're in a wheelchair. What was it that

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<v Speaker 1>got you interested in making device to do this?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was thirteen years ago. My daughter was seven

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<v Speaker 2>years old and I was visiting a friend in the

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<v Speaker 2>hospital and he pointed over the gurney and he just said,

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<v Speaker 2>the last time he was there, a seven year old

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<v Speaker 2>had been on that gurney that had choked to them.

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<v Speaker 2>And I had taken the course. I was not aware

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<v Speaker 2>that it didn't always work, or that it had a

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<v Speaker 2>high failure ratio, particularly in children, and I was really scared, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, once you know, you know, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was now aware that if my child choked. There was

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<v Speaker 2>a chance my techniques weren't going to work, so I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to save her. That was my first goal was

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<v Speaker 2>to save her, and then I felt obligated to bring

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<v Speaker 2>it to the world.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great because you know we have with children, young children,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we're looking at. We got a young grandson

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<v Speaker 1>and we're constantly looking now what the choking dangers are

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<v Speaker 1>for children. And as you point out, that's where it's

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<v Speaker 1>really difficult. You know, the children are the highest risk

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<v Speaker 1>for choking, and it's very difficult to do that. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why if you have something like this, I guess as

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<v Speaker 1>a parent, be very helpful.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I mean. And the other thing that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as we went through the last thirteen years, the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>they choke on, they choke on. The number one thing

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<v Speaker 2>they choke on is plastic and it's anything from toys

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<v Speaker 2>but to rappers, to pieces of tape, all sorts of

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<v Speaker 2>plastic that they find.

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<v Speaker 1>They're always putting stuff in their mouth, you know. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and the younger they are, the more that's the issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the thing is is a couple of physiological things.

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<v Speaker 2>Very small wind pipe, it's about the size of your pinky.

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<v Speaker 2>So they can choke on things that we cannot you

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<v Speaker 2>know that we would swallow or expel. They also have

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<v Speaker 2>very little lungs, so when you're trying to get some

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<v Speaker 2>force out of compression, be it a back blow or

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<v Speaker 2>chest compression, you know you're dealing with a very low

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<v Speaker 2>volume of air. So the ineffectiveness is based by physics.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that they have a smaller wind pie, so

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<v Speaker 2>clog more often and you're not dealing with a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of air to generate force to pop it out. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's why I'd say, you know, somewhere in the sixty

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<v Speaker 2>five percent of our saves as children. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Now, if you're talking about a very young child

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<v Speaker 1>who is also going to be putting a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff on their mouth, what about the difference in the

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<v Speaker 1>size of the face. Do you have different attachments or

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<v Speaker 1>does this somehow range of a large variety.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, every kit comes, Every kit comes with a pediatric

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<v Speaker 2>mask and an adult mask, so it's universal. Zero. The

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<v Speaker 2>other day we saved two days ago, we saved a

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen month old and a ninety seven year old in

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<v Speaker 2>the same day. And we made it that way. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, we made it to cover your entire family.

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<v Speaker 2>It lasts forever, not one of those gimmicks. Well, you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to buy one every year because it expires, covers

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<v Speaker 2>your entire family, kids and adults. You could use it

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<v Speaker 2>on yourself, which we've had many saves like that, and

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<v Speaker 2>if you ever use it, we give you a free one.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Well that's a great you know, of course you

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<v Speaker 1>never think about that if you're alone, that you can

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<v Speaker 1>do the homewight maneuver on yourself as there's nobody around.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've got one of those things that it helps.

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<v Speaker 1>How much is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Six, that's great. We tried to keep it reasonable.

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<v Speaker 2>You can usually find find and it lasts forever, and

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<v Speaker 2>it covers your whole family that you know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Making a medical product in the US is not inexpensive.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of regulations and cost. But we made

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<v Speaker 2>it last forever so that you know, if you had

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<v Speaker 2>to buy one every year, it was cheaper. It wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>take you long to go over what you need. More importantly,

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<v Speaker 2>it's more ethical that you know. We've had seven year

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<v Speaker 2>old life back saved the life. They've had something that

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<v Speaker 2>you want to get it and it quote unquote expired

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<v Speaker 2>and your child died or your loved one died, so

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<v Speaker 2>that was the reasoning behind it. That's great.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course you know a young teenager or something

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<v Speaker 1>could use it. As an adult, they would not have

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<v Speaker 1>the power to do that is not just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like we said, getting your arms around, but having the

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<v Speaker 1>strength as well. It's really a preparedness thing. I think

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<v Speaker 1>when we look at it, it's like having a fire

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<v Speaker 1>extinguish or some other things like that, except you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that is far more potentially has a greater

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<v Speaker 1>potential for being fatal if you were choking on it.

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<v Speaker 1>So especially if you've got young children around that are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be liable to put things in their mouth,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a great idea. I really like this. When I

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<v Speaker 1>saw that, I really wanted to get you on because

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, well, you know, some people could just could

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<v Speaker 1>wind up, as you point out, saving their life. You've

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<v Speaker 1>had thirty eight hundred and something lives to say so far,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's a great thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we've we've got a lot of media saved. Live

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<v Speaker 2>Inside Audition has saved over one hundred and something. Micro

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<v Speaker 2>Brian killed me. Mike is at twenty two, Brian's at

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<v Speaker 2>thirty two, Joe Biscobo, his show has saved lives, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're getting the word at we'll definitely save a life.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing that most shocked me right in the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning with how many people choked the death right. It's

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<v Speaker 2>five thousand a year. It's the fourth leading cause accidental death,

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<v Speaker 2>just behind car accidents, so slips some fulls car accidents, poisoning, choking.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what when I first heard about it, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, you know, who knew? You know who knew

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<v Speaker 2>that sixteen people are going to choke to death today?

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's a big part of it too,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, raising the awareness to get training and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like you said, you've got a family, or there's maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you're a bigger person, smaller, you're you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I was at a party in the white put her

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<v Speaker 2>hands and she was laughing how she couldn't get her

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<v Speaker 2>arms around her husband, and then she looked at me like,

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<v Speaker 2>holy cow, I can't get my arms around my husband.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a moment of awareness.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great. Yeah, that's uh, it is amazing. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that that many people died every year, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more than bird flu for example. So it's I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they get everybody panicking about the wrong stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that'd be looking at where the real risk

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<v Speaker 1>is and that is a real risk. Yeah. Yeah, well

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's great having you know, passion is I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Our passion is schools and special Our passion is I

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<v Speaker 2>give one free to every school in America. We lose

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<v Speaker 2>about seven kids a year choked to death in school.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know we have EPI pens and fire equipment.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great, but no one passed away from that last year.

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<v Speaker 2>But like you said, we have to address the primary problems.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, think about it in the schools to eating fast,

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<v Speaker 2>your little kids joking around. Every year we lose kids

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<v Speaker 2>in school that don't have to be lost. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>why I give one free. And then the special needs.

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<v Speaker 2>Our veterans are disabled, our disability community where you're in

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<v Speaker 2>a wheelchair, you can't get your arms around them. They

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<v Speaker 2>just choke. They have no policy, no protocol. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think as Americans as people, you know, we have choice, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you can get a few family or not. And I understand,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think for our schools and our veterans, disabled veterans,

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<v Speaker 2>and our special needs that we all need to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>pick up that awareness that they have nothing and that's

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<v Speaker 2>not right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Yeah, yeah, It's not something that you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to necessarily carry around with you at a restaurant or somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>But if we've got young children, you've got people who

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<v Speaker 1>are disabled at home, and you know, if enough people

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<v Speaker 1>have these things in enough different places, if the restaurants

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<v Speaker 1>had them, you know, that would be a huge thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's a I think that's really why things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a you know, I again, five thousand people a

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<v Speaker 1>year that are choking to death that could you could

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<v Speaker 1>have a big trunk get taken out of that with

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<v Speaker 1>this device. Thank you for doing that. That is a

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting idea, and I really wanted to get that

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<v Speaker 1>out to the audience. There's not anything we're we're not

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<v Speaker 1>selling this on this program or anything like that. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no tie about that. I just saw that and I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that that could save somebody's life, and especially if

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<v Speaker 1>you've got somebody in your family that is young or disabled,

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<v Speaker 1>that is really important. So yeah, thank you, and again.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you know what, that's that's how we change. We

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<v Speaker 2>all pitch in and share. And I greatly appreciate your voice,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's how we make a difference, that's how we

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<v Speaker 2>fix things. You know, sixteen people dying that don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to that's the big problem, right, you know, tragedy happen,

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<v Speaker 2>Things happen, but this doesn't have to happen. No kid

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<v Speaker 2>has to joke to death in school anymore. So we

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<v Speaker 2>all got a shout about it. And and as I say,

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<v Speaker 2>just keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right. Yeah, it's some preparedness, and we

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<v Speaker 1>have to make that kind of preparation. You know, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>learns CPR, they learned the Heich maneuver, they're doing preparation.

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<v Speaker 1>If you get this, you're also doing preparation, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>also extending the ability of being able to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's even beyond what you could do with the Heimlich

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<v Speaker 1>maneuver or something like that. So again, the website is

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<v Speaker 1>life vac. That's life v a c lifevac dot net,

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<v Speaker 1>lifevac dot net. And so you can see that there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a really great idea. And thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for doing that. Thank you for bringing that to our attention, Arthur.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you sell a lot of these things. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it is a really important. Thank you A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's key, but I appreciate you and your show

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<v Speaker 2>will save the life, so that's cool. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope so