Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. Am I pronouncing your name correctly?
Speaker 1: Is the last name Lee? Is that the way to
Speaker 1: pronounce yes?
Speaker 2: Sir?
Speaker 1: Okay, good?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about your product here. This
Speaker 1: is I mentioned it before. It is to help people
Speaker 1: in a choking situation. The company, by the way, is
Speaker 1: lifevac dot net. Tell us a little bit about the
Speaker 1: product that you developed there. You're the CEO, the inventor
Speaker 1: or the founder of the company. And again your name
Speaker 1: is Arthur Lee, so tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 2: Arthur. Well, first off, thank you thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2: As we get the word out there about life Back,
Speaker 2: we saved more lives. I think we saved nine lives yesterday.
Speaker 2: But it's a very, like you said, very simple device.
Speaker 2: It's basically a plunger. And if you've done the hind
Speaker 2: lick and it's not worked, or you can't get your
Speaker 2: arms around the person, or they're in a wheelchair, numerous
Speaker 2: reasons that it will not work or cannot be done.
Speaker 2: The light back is as simple. As you place it
Speaker 2: on the person, you push it down. The air will
Speaker 2: vent out the side, so we'll push it further down
Speaker 2: and quick tug and it'll pull out whatever was choking here.
Speaker 2: And today we're coming up on four thousand people saved
Speaker 2: and coming up on three thousand children that have been
Speaker 2: saved with life fact from a choking emergency.
Speaker 1: That's like, excuse me, I'm not choking here.
Speaker 2: I got you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you can send one of those through the
Speaker 1: pipes there, that'd be great. Sorry, tell us a little
Speaker 1: bit about that, because you know, I'm like, maneuver can
Speaker 1: be difficult. The maneuver, as you point out, if you
Speaker 1: got somebody who's overweight you can't get your arms around them,
Speaker 1: or if they're in a wheelchair. What was it that
Speaker 1: got you interested in making device to do this?
Speaker 2: Well, it was thirteen years ago. My daughter was seven
Speaker 2: years old and I was visiting a friend in the
Speaker 2: hospital and he pointed over the gurney and he just said,
Speaker 2: the last time he was there, a seven year old
Speaker 2: had been on that gurney that had choked to them.
Speaker 2: And I had taken the course. I was not aware
Speaker 2: that it didn't always work, or that it had a
Speaker 2: high failure ratio, particularly in children, and I was really scared, actually,
Speaker 2: because you know, once you know, you know, and I
Speaker 2: was now aware that if my child choked. There was
Speaker 2: a chance my techniques weren't going to work, so I
Speaker 2: wanted to save her. That was my first goal was
Speaker 2: to save her, and then I felt obligated to bring
Speaker 2: it to the world.
Speaker 1: That's great because you know we have with children, young children,
Speaker 1: that's what we're looking at. We got a young grandson
Speaker 1: and we're constantly looking now what the choking dangers are
Speaker 1: for children. And as you point out, that's where it's
Speaker 1: really difficult. You know, the children are the highest risk
Speaker 1: for choking, and it's very difficult to do that. That's
Speaker 1: why if you have something like this, I guess as
Speaker 1: a parent, be very helpful.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean. And the other thing that you know,
Speaker 2: as we went through the last thirteen years, the stuff
Speaker 2: they choke on, they choke on. The number one thing
Speaker 2: they choke on is plastic and it's anything from toys
Speaker 2: but to rappers, to pieces of tape, all sorts of
Speaker 2: plastic that they find.
Speaker 1: They're always putting stuff in their mouth, you know. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and the younger they are, the more that's the issue.
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is is a couple of physiological things.
Speaker 2: Very small wind pipe, it's about the size of your pinky.
Speaker 2: So they can choke on things that we cannot you
Speaker 2: know that we would swallow or expel. They also have
Speaker 2: very little lungs, so when you're trying to get some
Speaker 2: force out of compression, be it a back blow or
Speaker 2: chest compression, you know you're dealing with a very low
Speaker 2: volume of air. So the ineffectiveness is based by physics.
Speaker 2: You know that they have a smaller wind pie, so
Speaker 2: clog more often and you're not dealing with a lot
Speaker 2: of air to generate force to pop it out. And
Speaker 2: that's why I'd say, you know, somewhere in the sixty
Speaker 2: five percent of our saves as children. Wow.
Speaker 1: Wow, Now, if you're talking about a very young child
Speaker 1: who is also going to be putting a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff on their mouth, what about the difference in the
Speaker 1: size of the face. Do you have different attachments or
Speaker 1: does this somehow range of a large variety.
Speaker 2: Yeah, every kit comes, Every kit comes with a pediatric
Speaker 2: mask and an adult mask, so it's universal. Zero. The
Speaker 2: other day we saved two days ago, we saved a
Speaker 2: fifteen month old and a ninety seven year old in
Speaker 2: the same day. And we made it that way. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know, we made it to cover your entire family.
Speaker 2: It lasts forever, not one of those gimmicks. Well, you've
Speaker 2: got to buy one every year because it expires, covers
Speaker 2: your entire family, kids and adults. You could use it
Speaker 2: on yourself, which we've had many saves like that, and
Speaker 2: if you ever use it, we give you a free one.
Speaker 1: Wow. Well that's a great you know, of course you
Speaker 1: never think about that if you're alone, that you can
Speaker 1: do the homewight maneuver on yourself as there's nobody around.
Speaker 1: If you've got one of those things that it helps.
Speaker 1: How much is it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Six, that's great. We tried to keep it reasonable.
Speaker 2: You can usually find find and it lasts forever, and
Speaker 2: it covers your whole family that you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Making a medical product in the US is not inexpensive.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of regulations and cost. But we made
Speaker 2: it last forever so that you know, if you had
Speaker 2: to buy one every year, it was cheaper. It wouldn't
Speaker 2: take you long to go over what you need. More importantly,
Speaker 2: it's more ethical that you know. We've had seven year
Speaker 2: old life back saved the life. They've had something that
Speaker 2: you want to get it and it quote unquote expired
Speaker 2: and your child died or your loved one died, so
Speaker 2: that was the reasoning behind it. That's great.
Speaker 1: And of course you know a young teenager or something
Speaker 1: could use it. As an adult, they would not have
Speaker 1: the power to do that is not just you know,
Speaker 1: like we said, getting your arms around, but having the
Speaker 1: strength as well. It's really a preparedness thing. I think
Speaker 1: when we look at it, it's like having a fire
Speaker 1: extinguish or some other things like that, except you know,
Speaker 1: it's something that is far more potentially has a greater
Speaker 1: potential for being fatal if you were choking on it.
Speaker 1: So especially if you've got young children around that are
Speaker 1: going to be liable to put things in their mouth,
Speaker 1: that's a great idea. I really like this. When I
Speaker 1: saw that, I really wanted to get you on because
Speaker 1: I thought, well, you know, some people could just could
Speaker 1: wind up, as you point out, saving their life. You've
Speaker 1: had thirty eight hundred and something lives to say so far,
Speaker 1: so that's a great thing.
Speaker 2: Well, we've we've got a lot of media saved. Live
Speaker 2: Inside Audition has saved over one hundred and something. Micro
Speaker 2: Brian killed me. Mike is at twenty two, Brian's at
Speaker 2: thirty two, Joe Biscobo, his show has saved lives, and yeah,
Speaker 2: they're getting the word at we'll definitely save a life.
Speaker 2: But the thing that most shocked me right in the
Speaker 2: beginning with how many people choked the death right. It's
Speaker 2: five thousand a year. It's the fourth leading cause accidental death,
Speaker 2: just behind car accidents, so slips some fulls car accidents, poisoning, choking.
Speaker 2: So that's what when I first heard about it, I
Speaker 2: was like, you know, who knew? You know who knew
Speaker 2: that sixteen people are going to choke to death today?
Speaker 2: So I think that's a big part of it too,
Speaker 2: you know, raising the awareness to get training and you know,
Speaker 2: like you said, you've got a family, or there's maybe
Speaker 2: you know, you're a bigger person, smaller, you're you know.
Speaker 2: I was at a party in the white put her
Speaker 2: hands and she was laughing how she couldn't get her
Speaker 2: arms around her husband, and then she looked at me like,
Speaker 2: holy cow, I can't get my arms around my husband.
Speaker 2: There was a moment of awareness.
Speaker 1: That's great. Yeah, that's uh, it is amazing. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that that many people died every year, a lot
Speaker 1: more than bird flu for example. So it's I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, they get everybody panicking about the wrong stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, that'd be looking at where the real risk
Speaker 1: is and that is a real risk. Yeah. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: it's it's great having you know, passion is I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Our passion is schools and special Our passion is I
Speaker 2: give one free to every school in America. We lose
Speaker 2: about seven kids a year choked to death in school.
Speaker 2: And you know we have EPI pens and fire equipment.
Speaker 2: That's great, but no one passed away from that last year.
Speaker 2: But like you said, we have to address the primary problems.
Speaker 2: You know, think about it in the schools to eating fast,
Speaker 2: your little kids joking around. Every year we lose kids
Speaker 2: in school that don't have to be lost. And that's
Speaker 2: why I give one free. And then the special needs.
Speaker 2: Our veterans are disabled, our disability community where you're in
Speaker 2: a wheelchair, you can't get your arms around them. They
Speaker 2: just choke. They have no policy, no protocol. So I
Speaker 2: think as Americans as people, you know, we have choice, right,
Speaker 2: you can get a few family or not. And I understand,
Speaker 2: but I think for our schools and our veterans, disabled veterans,
Speaker 2: and our special needs that we all need to you know,
Speaker 2: pick up that awareness that they have nothing and that's
Speaker 2: not right.
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, yeah, It's not something that you're going
Speaker 1: to necessarily carry around with you at a restaurant or somebody.
Speaker 1: But if we've got young children, you've got people who
Speaker 1: are disabled at home, and you know, if enough people
Speaker 1: have these things in enough different places, if the restaurants
Speaker 1: had them, you know, that would be a huge thing.
Speaker 1: And so it's a I think that's really why things.
Speaker 1: It's a you know, I again, five thousand people a
Speaker 1: year that are choking to death that could you could
Speaker 1: have a big trunk get taken out of that with
Speaker 1: this device. Thank you for doing that. That is a
Speaker 1: really interesting idea, and I really wanted to get that
Speaker 1: out to the audience. There's not anything we're we're not
Speaker 1: selling this on this program or anything like that. There's
Speaker 1: no tie about that. I just saw that and I
Speaker 1: thought that that could save somebody's life, and especially if
Speaker 1: you've got somebody in your family that is young or disabled,
Speaker 1: that is really important. So yeah, thank you, and again.
Speaker 2: Well you know what, that's that's how we change. We
Speaker 2: all pitch in and share. And I greatly appreciate your voice,
Speaker 2: because that's how we make a difference, that's how we
Speaker 2: fix things. You know, sixteen people dying that don't have
Speaker 2: to that's the big problem, right, you know, tragedy happen,
Speaker 2: Things happen, but this doesn't have to happen. No kid
Speaker 2: has to joke to death in school anymore. So we
Speaker 2: all got a shout about it. And and as I say,
Speaker 2: just keep going.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. Yeah, it's some preparedness, and we
Speaker 1: have to make that kind of preparation. You know, somebody
Speaker 1: learns CPR, they learned the Heich maneuver, they're doing preparation.
Speaker 1: If you get this, you're also doing preparation, but you're
Speaker 1: also extending the ability of being able to do it.
Speaker 1: That's even beyond what you could do with the Heimlich
Speaker 1: maneuver or something like that. So again, the website is
Speaker 1: life vac. That's life v a c lifevac dot net,
Speaker 1: lifevac dot net. And so you can see that there.
Speaker 1: That's a really great idea. And thank you so much
Speaker 1: for doing that. Thank you for bringing that to our attention, Arthur.
Speaker 1: I hope you sell a lot of these things. I
Speaker 1: think it is a really important. Thank you A lot
Speaker 1: of lives.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's key, but I appreciate you and your show
Speaker 2: will save the life, so that's cool. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I hope so