1 00:00:28,519 --> 00:00:35,799 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho. 2 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:40,200 This is your host, Adam Graham. In a moment, we're 3 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,240 going to bring you this week's episode of Dragnet. But 4 00:00:44,399 --> 00:00:47,320 before we get started, I do want to encourage you. 5 00:00:47,359 --> 00:00:51,560 If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow us using your 6 00:00:51,719 --> 00:00:56,039 favorite podcast software. Today's program is brought to you in 7 00:00:56,119 --> 00:00:58,719 part by the financial support of our listeners. 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You're assigned a traffic investigation hit run felony detail. 19 00:01:59,079 --> 00:02:01,319 An elderly woman an your nine year old grandson is 20 00:02:01,359 --> 00:02:04,200 struck down on a pedestrian crosswalk by a speeding truck. 21 00:02:04,719 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 3: The woman is killed instantly. 22 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 2: Witnesses fail to get the license number they hit run 23 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:22,080 driver escapes. Your job find him. 24 00:02:22,199 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 4: Dragnet the documented drama of an actual crime. For the 25 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,639 next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, 26 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,159 you will travel step by step on the side of 27 00:02:32,159 --> 00:02:35,719 the law through an actual case, transcribed from official police files, 28 00:02:36,199 --> 00:02:40,120 from beginning to end, from crime to punishment. Dragnet is 29 00:02:40,159 --> 00:02:41,599 the story of your police force. 30 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:42,199 Speaker 3: In action. 31 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 5: Was Tuesday, December twenty first was windy in Los Angeles. 32 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,080 We're working the night Watch out of Traffic Division. Hit 33 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,199 and run felony detail. My partner's Ben Romero. The boss 34 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,520 is Captain Calfi, Commander Aid. My name is Friday. It 35 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,840 was ten fifty one pm. We got to the Carleton 36 00:03:00,879 --> 00:03:03,280 Theater the box office. 37 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,759 Speaker 6: Thank you, how many please? 38 00:03:07,879 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 3: Police officers, ma'am like to talk to you for a minute, 39 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:10,319 if you're good. 40 00:03:10,479 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 6: Oh, yes, you mean about the accident. 41 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 3: Yes, ma'am. One of the officers in the traffic car 42 00:03:14,039 --> 00:03:15,439 across the street. He told us you're one of the 43 00:03:15,439 --> 00:03:16,240 people to saw it happened. 44 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,199 Speaker 6: Yes, that's the right terrible thing. It was an old 45 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,080 lady and a gramson. 46 00:03:19,159 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 5: You know, yes, ma'am, would it be possible for you 47 00:03:21,039 --> 00:03:22,080 to get a relief for a little while. 48 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,439 Speaker 7: A few questions we'd like to ask you about. It 49 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:24,319 won't take very long. 50 00:03:24,439 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 6: Well, i'll be off duty eleven. That's when the box 51 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,560 office closed, eight minutes to eleven. Now, would you like 52 00:03:29,599 --> 00:03:30,000 to wait? 53 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 7: All right, ma'am? 54 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 3: Fine, who'd win out there? 55 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 6: Would you like to wait in here? Right around back here? 56 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: I'll open the door for you, all right, ma'am, Thank you. Yeah, 57 00:03:41,319 --> 00:03:42,159 it's nice and warm. 58 00:03:42,199 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 6: Did anybody get the license number? Do you know, officer, 59 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,120 I mean on that truck that ran him down? 60 00:03:46,199 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 5: No, not that we know of. We understand the officers 61 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,280 in the traffic car talk to you. You didn't see 62 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:51,039 the number either. 63 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,439 Speaker 6: No, I'm sorry I didn't. The whole thing happened so fast. 64 00:03:53,879 --> 00:03:56,280 Saw the old lady grabbed the little boy pull him 65 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:57,960 next to her. It was an awful thing. The truck 66 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,080 hit him both together. One of the things you notice, 67 00:04:01,319 --> 00:04:03,319 boy was carrying a little box of candy. I heard 68 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,159 this terrible thud when the truck hit them. I looked 69 00:04:06,199 --> 00:04:08,159 and the candy was spilled all over the street. Just 70 00:04:08,199 --> 00:04:09,919 couldn't help, but I got sick to my stomach. 71 00:04:10,039 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 3: Yes, ma'am, I can understand. 72 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 7: How about this truck that ran them down? Do you 73 00:04:13,439 --> 00:04:14,919 think you'd know it if you ever saw it again? 74 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 6: I'm not sure. I think I might. Yes, it was 75 00:04:17,399 --> 00:04:19,439 one of those delivery trucks, you know. I think you 76 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,680 call it a panel truck. It was a light tan 77 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,879 color all over, and there was black lettering on the side. 78 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 7: Could you make out any of the lettering at all? 79 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,439 Speaker 6: Well, I think there were three or four words painted 80 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,160 on the side, and I know one of them was bakery. 81 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:30,759 I'm sure that. 82 00:04:30,959 --> 00:04:33,079 Speaker 3: Did you recognize what make a truck it was, ma'am? 83 00:04:33,199 --> 00:04:33,800 You're the model? 84 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,439 Speaker 6: It was a late model, I'm pretty sure of that, 85 00:04:35,519 --> 00:04:38,120 either a Chevrolet or Ford. I'd say one of those 86 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,120 regular delivery trucks like some bakery's hues. 87 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,079 Speaker 3: Sure about that word? You saw letter on the side? 88 00:04:42,079 --> 00:04:43,879 It said bakery, Yes, I'm positive with that. 89 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 5: Know anything else out of the ordinary that you might 90 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,240 have noticed about the truck, ma'am, anything outstanding that might 91 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:48,920 have caught your eye? 92 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,439 Speaker 6: No, I'm sorry. So that's about all I can tell you. 93 00:04:52,199 --> 00:04:53,519 How is the old lady do you know, and a 94 00:04:53,519 --> 00:04:55,720 little boy. Could they tell you anything, Yes, ma'am. 95 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,079 Speaker 7: The woman's dead. She was killed instantly. They've taken the 96 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,920 youngster over to Georgia Street Receiving Hospital. Afraid he's in 97 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,040 pretty bad shape too. 98 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,879 Speaker 6: Terrible shame, poor lady. She lives right here in the neighborhood, 99 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,360 you know. Seeing her shopping in the market next door 100 00:05:07,399 --> 00:05:08,439 here Saturday afternoon. 101 00:05:08,439 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: It's just tragic. 102 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 6: Boys or grandson. 103 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 3: You know. 104 00:05:11,959 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 6: Somebody said he was down visiting her for the Christmas vacation. 105 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,240 Seemed like a nice kid, well behaved. She seems so 106 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,519 proud of him. It suld be a sad Christmas for 107 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:20,040 the family. 108 00:05:20,879 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 3: Just one more question, man, When the boy and his 109 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,040 grandmother were crossing the street, would you say the visibility 110 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:26,879 was good? I mean, is there any reason why it 111 00:05:26,879 --> 00:05:28,600 would have been hard for a driver to see them? 112 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,759 Speaker 6: No reason in the world, officer. It's a clear night. 113 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,240 You can see how well the intersections lighted up, all 114 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,839 the Christmas lights strung up along here. The lights from 115 00:05:35,879 --> 00:05:38,399 the theater Marquee was just as well lighted then as 116 00:05:38,439 --> 00:05:41,839 it is now. The intersection was perfectly clear, no other 117 00:05:41,879 --> 00:05:44,199 cars around. The boy had a white sweater on the 118 00:05:44,199 --> 00:05:46,639 old lady was wearing a light colored it certainly easy 119 00:05:46,639 --> 00:05:47,800 to see the traffic light too. 120 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: It said. Stop. 121 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 6: I can't understand why that driver didn't see him. 122 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 7: Neither can Wait, how. 123 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 6: Could anybody do such a thing? Just isn't any excuse 124 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,000 for it, no excuse in the world. It's downright murdered. 125 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 7: We maybe that explains it. What that's why I kept going. 126 00:06:04,959 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 5: Eleven thirty five pm, Ben and I finished interviewing the 127 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,120 cashier in the theater box office, and then we called 128 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,439 the office and had them get out a supplementary broadcast 129 00:06:12,439 --> 00:06:13,480 and an APB. 130 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 7: On the description of the hit and run vehicle. 131 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,319 Speaker 5: We went back across the street to the scene of 132 00:06:17,319 --> 00:06:19,920 the accident, where the officers in the tea car, along 133 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,720 with the crew from the crime lab, were finishing up 134 00:06:21,759 --> 00:06:25,439 their preliminary investigation. We interviewed two more witnesses to the 135 00:06:25,519 --> 00:06:27,759 hit run accident, but they were unable to tell us 136 00:06:27,759 --> 00:06:30,319 anything that we didn't already know. When we got back 137 00:06:30,319 --> 00:06:32,000 to the office, we put in a call to Georgia 138 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,319 Street Receiving Hospital, where they told us the nine year 139 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,360 old boy struck down by the hit run driver was 140 00:06:36,399 --> 00:06:39,480 still in a critical condition. The husband of the sixty 141 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,879 four year old woman who had been killed instantly was 142 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,399 brought downtown to the Morgue, where he identified the body. 143 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,120 The next morning, we got out a special bulletin too 144 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,120 all garages, auto repair and paint shops throughout the city 145 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,279 to be on the lookout for a late model tan 146 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,720 panel truck black lettering on the sides with damage to 147 00:06:55,759 --> 00:06:59,720 the front end. Eight thirty am. I checked with Communications, 148 00:06:59,759 --> 00:07:00,519 and then I went back. 149 00:07:00,439 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 7: To the office. 150 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 3: Hi, just check with Georgia Street. Joe asked him about 151 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,000 the boy, the old lady's grandson. 152 00:07:06,079 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 7: How's he doing? 153 00:07:06,759 --> 00:07:09,199 Speaker 3: Not the same critical condition? That's about all they'll say. 154 00:07:09,639 --> 00:07:12,519 That's a lows of shame. Communications, get any kickback on 155 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:13,399 the old points. 156 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 7: Yet, No, nothing at all. Just get in touch with 157 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:15,600 the crime lab. 158 00:07:15,839 --> 00:07:17,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, they're not going to be able to help much 159 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,399 what they find out there, anything at all. Just what 160 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,759 we saw a two small pieces of glass, probably from 161 00:07:21,759 --> 00:07:24,279 one of the headlights on the truck. You don't think 162 00:07:24,279 --> 00:07:25,759 they're going to be able to do much with them. 163 00:07:25,839 --> 00:07:26,720 Is not enough fear to going. 164 00:07:27,079 --> 00:07:28,959 Speaker 7: That's the only physical evidence they got, and. 165 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,199 Speaker 3: So might be able to tie it down a little 166 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:32,920 tight if we could find that panel. 167 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,439 Speaker 7: You start checking on that bakery truck angle. 168 00:07:35,519 --> 00:07:38,199 Speaker 3: Yet McGowan and I called every bakery in town, got 169 00:07:38,199 --> 00:07:40,839 a pretty well narrowed down. There's only two companies that 170 00:07:40,959 --> 00:07:44,079 use ten late model panels for delivery truck. Only one 171 00:07:44,079 --> 00:07:46,199 of them uses black lettering on the sides of the truck. 172 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,759 Other companies says they use red lettering. Which one has 173 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,879 the black I got it right here. Outfit called Nielsen's 174 00:07:52,879 --> 00:07:55,680 Wholesale Bakery. They got afraid of one hundred and seventy 175 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,920 three trucks, all the same ten color black lettering on 176 00:07:57,959 --> 00:07:59,879 both sides late model for delivery truck. 177 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 5: They tell you whether or not any of their drivers 178 00:08:02,279 --> 00:08:04,000 could have been making deliveries that time in night ten 179 00:08:04,079 --> 00:08:04,920 thirty eleven o'clock. 180 00:08:05,079 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were about a dozen of them out on deliveries. 181 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,120 Oh more UPM to account for than that, though, What 182 00:08:10,199 --> 00:08:12,199 do you mean all their drivers are allowed to take 183 00:08:12,199 --> 00:08:13,720 the trucks home with them when they are off. Dude, 184 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,480 if they want to afraid, he's going to mean checking 185 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:17,160 out every one of them. 186 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 7: You know, they might as well get moving on it. 187 00:08:19,399 --> 00:08:20,600 They're going to give us some kind of a list 188 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:21,240 of work with, are they? 189 00:08:21,399 --> 00:08:23,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got it all set up with him. I'm 190 00:08:23,399 --> 00:08:31,560 getting accident investigational Merril. Oh yes, sirs, that's all I see. 191 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,120 You're right, thank you, rotten deal. 192 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 7: What's the matter? 193 00:08:36,399 --> 00:08:37,799 Speaker 3: Had young kid the grandison? 194 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, he just. 195 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:45,759 Speaker 5: Died many times and on many different occasions. The police 196 00:08:45,759 --> 00:08:47,559 officer has it proved to him that there can be 197 00:08:47,639 --> 00:08:50,240 very little difference between a crime of neglect and a 198 00:08:50,279 --> 00:08:53,480 crime that's been willfully premeditated. If you look at it 199 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,000 closely enough, you can judge it for yourself. How much difference, 200 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,440 for example, as far as moral guilt is concerned, is 201 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,919 there between the following number one, a man who plans 202 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,320 a killing, takes up a gun, finds his victim, and 203 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,279 shoots him to death. Our number two, the man who 204 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,159 thinks he has to look out for no one's welfare 205 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,480 but his own, gets behind the wheel of a car, 206 00:09:12,799 --> 00:09:16,000 disregards the ordinary rules of safety, and proceeds to commit 207 00:09:16,039 --> 00:09:20,159 homicide with a motor vehicle. Oftentimes the crime masquerades under 208 00:09:20,159 --> 00:09:23,039 the guise of an accident, Moraley. No matter how you 209 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,080 spell it, it adds up to murder just as surely as 210 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:26,679 if the person had taken a gun and shot the 211 00:09:26,759 --> 00:09:27,360 victim down. 212 00:09:28,399 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 7: The way it looked to us. 213 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 5: The hit and run killing of the elderly woman and 214 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,159 her grandson was a prime example. Wednesday, December twenty second, 215 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,600 Ben and I began checking out the delivery trucks owned 216 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,120 by Nielsen's wholesale bakerate. Late that afternoon, we located one 217 00:09:41,159 --> 00:09:43,120 of the trucks with recent damage to the front end. 218 00:09:43,639 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 7: We checked and found the driver's name was Arthur V. Singer. 219 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,840 We drove out to his home to interview him. 220 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 8: No, I wasn't working last night, off, sir, I was off. 221 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:51,759 What's it all about? 222 00:09:51,919 --> 00:09:53,639 Speaker 3: Did you spend the night at home, mister Singer? 223 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 8: Or where you was home part of the time? After dinner, 224 00:09:56,159 --> 00:09:58,639 I went downtown to Little Bowling, our neighborhood team bulls 225 00:09:58,679 --> 00:09:59,399 every Tuesday night. 226 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 3: Where is that place? 227 00:10:00,879 --> 00:10:03,639 Speaker 8: Downtowns on West Seventh got a pretty good team. 228 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 7: Did you drive down, mister Singer? 229 00:10:05,039 --> 00:10:05,879 Speaker 3: Did you take the bus? No? 230 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 8: I drove down, had the company truck with me. I'll 231 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,600 just used him when we're off duty. We pay for 232 00:10:09,639 --> 00:10:10,039 the gas. 233 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,039 Speaker 3: Did you drive down by yourself or was there someone 234 00:10:12,039 --> 00:10:12,600 else with you? 235 00:10:12,639 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 7: No? 236 00:10:12,759 --> 00:10:13,279 Speaker 3: I was alone. 237 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 8: The other boys had their cars. 238 00:10:14,759 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 3: When did you leave the bawling yell? You remember about 239 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,039 ten ten fifteen, I'd say. 240 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,039 Speaker 7: How'd you drive home, mister Singer? I mean what route 241 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:21,559 did you take? 242 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 8: I drove straight out west Seventh, got the carnado, came 243 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:26,639 over carnaut of the house here. 244 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:27,799 Speaker 3: What do you want to know? 245 00:10:28,039 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 7: What time did you get home? 246 00:10:29,399 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 8: About quarter to eleven? This wouldn't be about that little 247 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,279 scrape I had last night with her? What was that 248 00:10:34,919 --> 00:10:37,279 down at seventh in Grand View, right by west Lake Park? 249 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,600 The old guy in the car head he stopped fast 250 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,320 right in front of me, didn't even signal. I almost 251 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,639 plodded right into him like I was watching, and slammed 252 00:10:44,639 --> 00:10:46,559 on the brakes, turned in toward the curb. Should have 253 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,200 seen it. I clipped the headlight in the right fender 254 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,519 against a telephone poll had it. Take the truck in 255 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:51,600 this morning, get it fixed up. 256 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,399 Speaker 7: Are there any witnesses to this accident that. 257 00:10:53,399 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 3: You had, Singer? 258 00:10:54,039 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, a half dozen people saw it. 259 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 7: Did you get any names? 260 00:10:56,279 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 3: No address? 261 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 8: Well, no I didn't. I was so teed off about 262 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:00,919 the whole thing. I guess I didn't think about it. 263 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 3: Is there anyone at all we can check with? Anybody 264 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,000 to corroborate your story? 265 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 8: Just the old guy in that car. Sure a lousy driver. 266 00:11:06,639 --> 00:11:07,600 I really chewed him out. 267 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 3: Did you get his name in Andre? 268 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,879 Speaker 8: No, but I took down his license number. Wasn't gonna 269 00:11:11,879 --> 00:11:13,799 pay for that damage, he admitted it was his fault. 270 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 3: Let me see. 271 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 7: Do you mind giving us that license number? 272 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 8: No, if I can find it. Wrote it down on 273 00:11:17,759 --> 00:11:20,000 the back of an old envelope. Thought I put it 274 00:11:20,039 --> 00:11:22,039 in my jacket when I looked this morning, wasn't there. 275 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,320 It's around someplace, so I'll check around again for a 276 00:11:24,399 --> 00:11:25,879 leave for work. It'll bound to turn up. 277 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,759 Speaker 5: I'd like to have you look for it now, mister Singer, 278 00:11:27,759 --> 00:11:28,919 if you would, it's pretty important. 279 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 8: Wow, I think I get it. Officer, what it's all about? 280 00:11:31,159 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 3: Anyway? Then lemonary investigation? I want to see if you 281 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:34,639 can find that number four? 282 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:35,399 Speaker 5: Wow? 283 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 8: What did it I have to do with an investigation? 284 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,279 I didn't do anything at oh man, it was his fault. 285 00:11:39,639 --> 00:11:40,639 The old bakery. 286 00:11:40,279 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 7: Truck was involved in a serious accident last night, the 287 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,840 same kind that you were driving. Fred. You're gonna need 288 00:11:44,879 --> 00:11:46,279 some kind of an alibi, mister Singer. 289 00:11:46,639 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: Alibi. 290 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 8: I don't know what you mean. 291 00:11:48,039 --> 00:11:49,159 Speaker 3: Why do I have to have an alibi? 292 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 7: I'll just take my word for it. You're gonna need one. 293 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:52,159 Speaker 8: Why do I need one? 294 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:52,879 Speaker 3: Two reasons? 295 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,039 Speaker 7: Yeah, A nine year old boy and his grandmother. 296 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 5: We continued questioning the suspect, Arthur Singer, but he denied 297 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,559 any knowledge of the hit run accident the night before 298 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,720 at the intersection of Drexel and Pico Boulevard. We stayed 299 00:12:06,759 --> 00:12:08,879 with him while he searched his home for the licensed 300 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,840 number of the car, which he said caused him to 301 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,440 have his accident the night before. 302 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 7: After half an hour of. 303 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 5: Looking, he came up with a number scribbled on a 304 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,399 scrap of paper which he'd found back in one corner 305 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,720 on the floor of his closet. We put in a 306 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,679 call to our DMV and they came back with the 307 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,159 information that the license number was registered to a mister 308 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,679 Thomas Foley on Lancasham Boulevard. We drove out to the 309 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,080 address to check with mister Foley, but there was nobody home. 310 00:12:31,639 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 7: We left our card along with. 311 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 5: Our message to contact us as soon as possible four 312 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,679 fifteen pm. Ben and I got back to the office 313 00:12:38,759 --> 00:12:41,240 at four thirty five. Mister Foley returned our call. 314 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 3: Yes, that's right, well you did uh huh, I see 315 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,240 well what time was that do you remember? Well, all right, 316 00:12:48,279 --> 00:12:50,440 mister Foley, thank you very much. We may be contacting 317 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,440 you later. Right by. I thought this was starting up 318 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:54,960 too easy. 319 00:12:55,039 --> 00:12:55,759 Speaker 7: Why what you say? 320 00:12:55,879 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 3: Apparently this Arthur Singer is telling us the truth. Mister 321 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,720 Foley says he did have a little scrape with a 322 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,679 Baker truck last night. Described singers driver the truck. What 323 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,240 about the location? Is fully pretty sure about that? Grand 324 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,840 viewing lest seven says it happened about ten thirty five 325 00:13:07,919 --> 00:13:09,960 last night. That put Singer about three miles from the 326 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,519 scene of they hit run. It's impossible, Joe, Yeah, this 327 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,080 mister Foley's right Singer couldn't have done it wasn't anywhere 328 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,799 near the scene. I sure thought he was it in 329 00:13:16,879 --> 00:13:19,399 jew we can drive out and double check with fooling. 330 00:13:19,759 --> 00:13:21,519 Can't think of any reason why he'd lie about it, 331 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:21,799 can you? 332 00:13:22,399 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 7: I saw get it Acts Investigation Friday? Yeah, Ted? Where yeah? Nobody? Huh? Yeah? 333 00:13:31,399 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 3: Right away? 334 00:13:31,879 --> 00:13:34,519 Speaker 7: Thanks, that's moving a little fast. Got a piece of 335 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,080 luck here. Who was Ted Zimmerman? He and McLendon are 336 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:38,759 down the south end of town. Yeah, they hit and 337 00:13:38,799 --> 00:13:43,960 run truck. They think maybe they found it. Four twenty 338 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:44,519 eight pm. 339 00:13:44,639 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 5: Ben and I left the office and drove to the 340 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,200 south end of the city, where we met with Sergeants 341 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,080 Zimmerman and McLendon a block from where the Tan Panel 342 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,679 Bakery truck had been located. As soon as the truck 343 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,159 had been discovered, an immediate stakeout was placed on it. 344 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,679 A Code five was broadcast on the vehicle's location, warning 345 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,960 all you to stay away so as not to discourage 346 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,879 the suspect in case he decided it was safe to 347 00:14:03,879 --> 00:14:05,000 return and get the truck. 348 00:14:05,639 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 7: Ben and I drove down the side street where the 349 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,080 truck was parked and got a good look at the 350 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,600 front end of it. The right headlight was damaged and 351 00:14:11,639 --> 00:14:15,039 so was the right fender. While Zimmerman and McLendon remained. 352 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,799 Speaker 5: On stakeout, Ben and I contacted the Nielsen Bakery people again, 353 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,039 gave them the number of the truck and they traced 354 00:14:20,039 --> 00:14:21,559 down the driver's name for us. 355 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 7: He was listed as Daniel Miller. 356 00:14:23,679 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 5: He'd been employed by the bakery for the past three 357 00:14:25,679 --> 00:14:27,639 years and he had a good record. They told us 358 00:14:27,679 --> 00:14:30,440 this was his day off five point thirty pm. We 359 00:14:30,519 --> 00:14:32,440 checked at his home address, but his wife told us 360 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,159 he wasn't there. She said that Besides driving a truck 361 00:14:35,159 --> 00:14:37,559 for the bakery, he also had a part time job. 362 00:14:37,559 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 7: At night. 363 00:14:38,399 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 5: He worked as a counter man at a small coffee 364 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,360 shop out on Wilshire Boulevard. We drove out to the 365 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,200 coffee shop and interviewed him on the job. 366 00:14:45,639 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 9: No, I'm sorry, I don't know where the truck is. 367 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,159 I wish I did and what happened, mister Miller? 368 00:14:49,279 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 3: Was his done? 369 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 9: No? No, not exactly. A fellow that comes in here quite 370 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,039 a bit. His name's Paul, good customer. He borrowed the 371 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,919 truck from me last night, said he don't be gone 372 00:14:56,919 --> 00:14:58,240 and now I haven't seen him since. 373 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 7: Where does this man live? This friend of yours, Paul? 374 00:15:00,759 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 9: I'll tell you the truth. I don't know good Customy 375 00:15:03,279 --> 00:15:05,000 comes in quite a bit at night when I'm working. 376 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,399 Gott to know him pretty well. He has to borrow 377 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,120 the truck for an hour. Didn't think much about it. 378 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,440 Let him have it. Is there anything wrong? 379 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 7: What's this Paull's last name? You know? 380 00:15:13,639 --> 00:15:15,519 Speaker 9: Oh? I guess I don't never thought to ask him, 381 00:15:15,559 --> 00:15:17,600 as a matter of fact, because they never had any 382 00:15:17,639 --> 00:15:18,799 reason to about. 383 00:15:18,519 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 3: What time was it last night that you lean in 384 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:20,960 the truck. 385 00:15:21,039 --> 00:15:23,039 Speaker 9: At eight o'clock. I think it was. He said he 386 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,279 wanted to take his television set over to the guy 387 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,639 he knew and get it fixed. He told me he'd 388 00:15:27,679 --> 00:15:29,399 be backed by tenn oy' clark at the latest. 389 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:30,759 Speaker 7: And you don't know where this man lives. You have 390 00:15:30,799 --> 00:15:32,120 no idea at all how to get in touch with him. 391 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 9: No, I guess they don't sag it. 392 00:15:33,519 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 3: Why you're in the habit of lending the truck to 393 00:15:35,399 --> 00:15:35,799 strain you? 394 00:15:36,159 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 9: No, not usually? Well, what's your beef anyway? What's this 395 00:15:39,559 --> 00:15:40,080 all about? 396 00:15:40,519 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 7: What are your hours here at the coffee shop? Mat 397 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:43,600 or when do you check in for work? When do 398 00:15:43,639 --> 00:15:43,960 you leave? 399 00:15:44,159 --> 00:15:46,559 Speaker 9: I checked in at seven o'clock. I go straight five 400 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,799 hours to midnight. That's when we close out midnight. 401 00:15:49,159 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 7: You worked that shift last night? Did you? Seven pm? 402 00:15:51,279 --> 00:15:52,120 Straight through to midnight? 403 00:15:52,159 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 9: That's right, Monday through Saturday, six days a week. That's 404 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,320 a schedule. It's just a part time job for me, 405 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,919 extra door. You know, my regular job's driving the truck 406 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:00,559 the bakery. 407 00:16:00,759 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 3: Was anyone around last night when your friend Paul came 408 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,559 into board the truck, Maybe another customer, waitress, somebody we 409 00:16:05,559 --> 00:16:06,360 could double check with. 410 00:16:06,679 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 9: No, there we were a couple other customers in the place. 411 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,120 I don't know who they were, though. Why do you 412 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,840 have to double check? Anyway? I haven't done anything. I 413 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,879 loaned Paul a truck. That's all I'll have. 414 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: You ain't wed all of proving you were here from 415 00:16:18,759 --> 00:16:21,039 seven to twelve last night. Must have been some customers 416 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:22,200 you withed on that you remember. 417 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 9: Sure, at least half dozen of them. They'll tell you 418 00:16:25,159 --> 00:16:25,559 I was here. 419 00:16:25,759 --> 00:16:27,519 Speaker 7: I'd like to have their names and addresses, if you 420 00:16:27,519 --> 00:16:28,200 don't mind. 421 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 9: Miller, Yeah, excuse me a minute. H I've got a customer. 422 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,279 Speaker 3: Away right in. All right, Dan, I missed you last night. 423 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:34,840 All right, Fred? 424 00:16:34,879 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 9: What do you have coffee? 425 00:16:36,399 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 3: A couple of those doughnuts back there? Potter sugar ones? 426 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,039 Speaker 10: Okay, I mean the message dropped in for a sandwich 427 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:43,279 after the show last night. 428 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 9: We're looking for you that so you how about ten thirty? 429 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:47,039 Speaker 3: Where were you? Dan? 430 00:17:05,279 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 5: Seven fifteen pm, Wednesday, December twenty second. We continued questioning 431 00:17:09,519 --> 00:17:12,079 the hit run suspect Daniel Miller for a full hour, 432 00:17:12,519 --> 00:17:14,240 but he seemed to be unable to account for his 433 00:17:14,319 --> 00:17:17,160 time the previous night. His first story was that he'd 434 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,400 been on duty behind the counter and the coffee shop 435 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,160 without a break between the hours of seven pm and midnight. Then, 436 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,640 after the customer entered and disclosed that he was in 437 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,880 the coffee shop at ten thirty the night before and 438 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,920 that Miller was nowhere about the suspect switched his story. 439 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,440 He said he thought he left the coffee shop briefly 440 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,279 for about fifteen minutes between ten thirty and ten forty 441 00:17:36,279 --> 00:17:38,799 five pm to run down the street to a hotel 442 00:17:38,839 --> 00:17:40,559 to say goodbye to some friends of his who were 443 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,400 leaving for New York. We checked at the hotel, but 444 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,160 they didn't know Miller, and they hadn't seen him the 445 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:45,759 night before. 446 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 7: They were sure of it. We returned to the coffee 447 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:48,640 shop and. 448 00:17:48,599 --> 00:17:50,759 Speaker 5: Took up the questioning of the suspect all over again, 449 00:17:51,079 --> 00:17:53,480 but he made littler no sense at all. Apparently he 450 00:17:53,519 --> 00:17:55,640 was piling up lie after lie in an effort to 451 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,079 cover his tracks before and after they hit and run murder. 452 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 7: The night before eight pm, Ben and I pulled Miller. 453 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,039 Speaker 5: Off the job at the coffee shop and took him 454 00:18:04,039 --> 00:18:05,720 downtown to the interrogation room. 455 00:18:06,079 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 9: I'm telling you it's the truth. I wasn't in that 456 00:18:08,279 --> 00:18:10,640 truck last night. I wasn't in an accident. I don't 457 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,680 know what you're talking about. Well, then give something to 458 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,079 go on, Miller. You've vented three different stories so far. 459 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:16,680 Not one of them is strong enough the whole water. 460 00:18:16,759 --> 00:18:18,880 I'm telling you the truth. What are you trying to 461 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,119 hang this on me for? I didn't have a wreck 462 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,799 and I didn't kill anybody. Why are you picking on me? 463 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 7: Because you don't make sense? Mister. 464 00:18:25,319 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 5: You're trying to sell us a story and you haven't 465 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,920 got one ounce of proof to back it up. At 466 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,240 bakery truck you're responsible for as the same truck that 467 00:18:31,319 --> 00:18:33,279 killed the old woman and the little boy. Now you 468 00:18:33,319 --> 00:18:35,039 come up with a solid story that we can check 469 00:18:35,039 --> 00:18:36,359 on her, you're going to be resting your back in 470 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:36,920 the main jam. 471 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,319 Speaker 9: I wonder they call you cops, dumb. I wasn't in 472 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,960 that truck last night. Can't you get that through your heads? 473 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,039 I wasn't in the truck. I didn't have an accident. 474 00:18:45,079 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 3: Didn't prove it to us, mister Miller, that's what we're 475 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,400 waiting for. Listen, call Bill Colder. He's a good customer. 476 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,319 He was in last night. I think he'll tell you. 477 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,720 Go ahead and call him. He'll back up what I say. 478 00:18:54,839 --> 00:18:55,759 Speaker 7: What's his numbered? You know? 479 00:18:56,319 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, I got it right right here in my wallet. 480 00:19:00,559 --> 00:19:02,240 The bill can tell you. Yeah, here it is. 481 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:15,599 Speaker 5: Well, thank you, hello, William Calder there please, yes, ma'am, 482 00:19:15,599 --> 00:19:18,599 it's important, all right. Well you have him called Michigan 483 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,279 five to two one one, yeah, five two one one 484 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,200 as extension two five one two right, Thank you very much. 485 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 7: He's busy. You'll call back in a minute. 486 00:19:27,599 --> 00:19:29,319 Speaker 9: He'll tell you the truth. I was in the coffee 487 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,640 shop all night, Just those couple of minutes, I ran 488 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,799 down to the hotel, I say goodbye to those friends 489 00:19:33,799 --> 00:19:35,759 of mine. That's the only time I left the place. 490 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 3: How come you couldn't tell us that to begin with? 491 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,519 Mauh You say you've got nothing to hide, Well, why 492 00:19:40,559 --> 00:19:42,160 do you have to hand his three different stories? Which 493 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:43,160 when are we supposed to believe? 494 00:19:43,599 --> 00:19:45,799 Speaker 9: I got nervous, that's all, when you first come in 495 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,200 and started to ask questions. I didn't know what it 496 00:19:48,279 --> 00:19:50,160 was all about it. I didn't know there was any trouble. 497 00:19:50,599 --> 00:19:52,599 I just loaned the truck to this guy. Paul is 498 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,319 a favor. How do I know what he was going 499 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,400 to do getting himself in a jam like that? 500 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,079 Speaker 7: All right, I'll try to look at it from where 501 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,480 we stand. Miller, you rown out your true to him. 502 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 3: Man. 503 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 7: You don't know his last name, you don't know where 504 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:02,799 he lives. 505 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 5: You say he must have been driving the truck when 506 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,160 the lady and the boy were killed. 507 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 9: Sure he must have been driving that. 508 00:20:07,759 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 3: I wasn't. 509 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,599 Speaker 9: I was back at the coffee shop. I was there 510 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:11,359 until midnight. 511 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 7: Mark, Then prove it to us. If you know the 512 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:14,680 man well enough to loan him the truck, you ought 513 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,279 to be able to find him. Now. 514 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 9: They must be bill called a hill. Tell you go ahead, 515 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:19,599 see what he said. 516 00:20:21,759 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 7: Interrogation room. Friday. Oh yeah, mister Kolver. 517 00:20:25,039 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 5: My name is Sergeant Friday, LABD Accident Investigation Friday. 518 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,039 Speaker 7: Yes, sir, that's right. Wonder if you'd tell me if 519 00:20:31,039 --> 00:20:35,039 you know a Daniel Miller. When's the last time you 520 00:20:35,039 --> 00:20:39,680 saw him? Do you remember? I see the place where 521 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,039 he works, the coffee shop. Were you in there last night? 522 00:20:42,039 --> 00:20:49,079 By any chance? Did you see Miller in there? You're sure? Yes, sir. No. 523 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:50,759 So that's all for now, Thank you very much. We're 524 00:20:50,759 --> 00:20:53,000 going to contact you later on. Thank you, goodbye. 525 00:20:53,799 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 9: Well how about it? 526 00:20:54,519 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 3: He told you? 527 00:20:55,039 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 9: Didn't I that enough for you? 528 00:20:56,759 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 7: He says, he hasn't been in the coffee shop for 529 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,920 three days. Nine For five. 530 00:21:01,759 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 5: PM, our interrogation of the hit and run spect Daniel 531 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,920 Miller went on. At his suggestion, we called half a 532 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,839 dozen people who he figured might substantiate. 533 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,839 Speaker 7: His alibi, but none of them were able to. 534 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,519 Speaker 5: Miller continued to deny any knowledge of the hit run killing, 535 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,160 but he still couldn't account for his whereabouts at the 536 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,519 exact hour the nine year old boy and his grandmother 537 00:21:20,519 --> 00:21:23,880 were run down. The time element especially didn't work in 538 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,799 his favor. Nothing worked in his favor. Eleven thirty PM, 539 00:21:27,839 --> 00:21:30,000 Ben and I took Daniel Miller over to the main jail, 540 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,319 where he was booked in on suspicion of four eighty VC. 541 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,359 The following afternoon, his lawyer obtained a writ and he 542 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:37,519 was released from custody. 543 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 7: The writ was returnable in five days. He came immediately to. 544 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,559 Speaker 5: The office to plead with Ben and I to help 545 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,079 him find Paul, the man who borrowed his truck, and 546 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,960 thus clear himself. We took him up on it. Either way, 547 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,920 we figured we'd get to the bottom of it. If 548 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,720 Miller dreamed up the character Paul to escape blame for 549 00:21:52,759 --> 00:21:54,759 the hit and run killing. We were bound to find 550 00:21:54,759 --> 00:21:57,240 out sooner or later if Miller was telling the truth. 551 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 7: We had little reason to believe he was. 552 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,839 Speaker 5: And a man named paul All that borrowed the truck 553 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,559 the night of the hit and run killing, we were 554 00:22:02,559 --> 00:22:03,759 bound to find that out too. 555 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 7: In any event, we had to investigate. 556 00:22:06,599 --> 00:22:08,839 Speaker 5: It's the job of the police officer to prove guilt 557 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,480 or innocence, not guilt alone. Two days passed, and then 558 00:22:12,519 --> 00:22:15,319 another two the Monday following the Christmas weekend. 559 00:22:15,759 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 7: We were ready to call a halt. 560 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 3: I don't know what else we can do. I think 561 00:22:20,519 --> 00:22:22,160 we've given enough time, don't you know. 562 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 7: The deeper we get into it, the more it looks 563 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,039 like Miller's our man. I still can't make in my mind. 564 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 3: Why do you have to be stubborn about it? We've 565 00:22:27,759 --> 00:22:29,920 checked every possible angle on this story. We still having 566 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,039 an ounce of proof that this guy Paulie talks about 567 00:22:32,039 --> 00:22:33,920 even exists. We can't string along with. 568 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,039 Speaker 5: Miller for even I suppose you're right we've given him 569 00:22:36,039 --> 00:22:38,279 a square enough break on it. I still got that 570 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,839 funny hunch as possible he might be telling the truth. 571 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,319 Speaker 3: We've gone four straight days on a Joe haven't come 572 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,839 across one lead to back up his story. It's too 573 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,319 much for me. I can't bite any more for. 574 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,759 Speaker 7: Him, so I do. 575 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 9: Oh, Holli, Miller, I'm okay, glad to see I've been 576 00:22:53,279 --> 00:22:53,759 looking for you. 577 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,279 Speaker 3: We've been looking for your friend Miller, still having found 578 00:22:56,279 --> 00:22:56,920 a trace of him. 579 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,839 Speaker 9: That's why I came down to see you. A friend 580 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,079 of mine called me this morning. He knows this guy 581 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,359 Paul I told you about. He says he saw him 582 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,960 last night going into a hotel down on South Flower. 583 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,279 Speaker 3: How come we haven't heard from this friend of years before. 584 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,720 We've checked through twice on the list of everybody you know. 585 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 9: This fella has been out of town, just got back 586 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,039 yesterday when he heard about the gem I was in. 587 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,640 He called me about seeing Paul. 588 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 7: This hotel Paul was supposed to have been seeing going into. 589 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 3: If you got the. 590 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 9: Advessity, Yeah, it's around South Flower, right near Twelfth. I'm 591 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,079 going to go over there with me right now. This 592 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,440 friend of mine wouldn't kid me. Paul must be there. 593 00:23:27,759 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 7: You're sure about that. 594 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 9: He must be there. I'll bet a month's pay on it. 595 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 3: He might be low, mister, what stands to court you 596 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:34,599 a lot? More than that. 597 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,839 Speaker 5: We went up to the third floor, room three eighteen, 598 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,759 but the man registered as Paul Barton wasn't in. He'd 599 00:23:43,839 --> 00:23:45,920 left no word at the desk as to when he'd returned. 600 00:23:46,559 --> 00:23:48,759 We sent Miller home and told him to wait for 601 00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:50,920 our call. Ben and I went on steak out at 602 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,200 the hotel. At seven twenty five that night, Paul Barton 603 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,319 returned to his room and we began questioning him. 604 00:23:56,559 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 7: He showed no signs of being upset. 605 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 5: His answers were quick, straightforward, and they seem to make sense. 606 00:24:02,079 --> 00:24:05,079 The interview went on a half hour an hour, and 607 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,200 Barton began to grow a little nervous. He contradicted himself. 608 00:24:08,319 --> 00:24:10,359 Big holes began to show up in his story as 609 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,240 to how and where he'd spent his time the night 610 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,440 of the hit run killing. Eight forty five pm, Ben 611 00:24:15,519 --> 00:24:17,720 and I took Barton back to the office. We found 612 00:24:17,759 --> 00:24:20,039 Zimmerman in the squadroom and had him phone Miller at 613 00:24:20,039 --> 00:24:21,759 his home and ask him to come downtown as soon 614 00:24:21,799 --> 00:24:25,079 as possible. Meantime, we checked Paul Barton through R and I, 615 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,799 and then we took him to the interrogation room, where 616 00:24:27,839 --> 00:24:28,720 the questioning went on. 617 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 3: You're a little mixed up about that, aren't you? Mister Barton? 618 00:24:31,279 --> 00:24:33,079 I thought you said you went to that boar downtown 619 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,920 about ten pm and then you went to visit at 620 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,640 your sister's house. Now you tell us you went to 621 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,200 your sister's house first, and then you went to the 622 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,680 bar downtown. And which is it? Well? 623 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,519 Speaker 10: I was getting a little high handed, isn't it. Why 624 00:24:41,519 --> 00:24:43,079 do I have to account for my time to you? 625 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 7: If it wasn't important, we wouldn't be asking you. I 626 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:45,440 think you know that. 627 00:24:45,519 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 10: Well, I don't know anything of the kind. You're trying 628 00:24:47,519 --> 00:24:49,559 to take advantage of me. That's the only impression I 629 00:24:49,559 --> 00:24:52,359 can get. Can't answered enough of your questions. I'm going 630 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:53,319 back to the hotel just. 631 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 3: A minute, Barton, is one more thing? 632 00:24:54,759 --> 00:24:55,319 Speaker 10: Huh? 633 00:24:55,519 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 3: Last time you were arrested for a traffic violation. You 634 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,839 want to tell us what the george was? Why I 635 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,000 think you've heard me? Well, that was a year ago. 636 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 10: I was driving a little too fast going out Beverly Boulevard. 637 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,559 Speaker 3: And what's that got to do with our record? 638 00:25:07,559 --> 00:25:09,839 Speaker 7: Bureau says? The charge was for drunk driving? Your license 639 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:10,720 was revoking that right? 640 00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:12,759 Speaker 3: Well, so what I haven't been driving? I haven't been 641 00:25:12,759 --> 00:25:13,599 near a cup about. 642 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,759 Speaker 7: Last Tuesday night. Last Tuesday night, did you do any 643 00:25:15,839 --> 00:25:16,240 driving then? 644 00:25:16,319 --> 00:25:19,079 Speaker 10: No, No, of course, not sure about that. You're not 645 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,559 trapping me. I answered all your questions. 646 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 7: To stay right where you are, mister, stay put, Ben. 647 00:25:23,519 --> 00:25:25,079 You want to check next door, see if Miller's coming. 648 00:25:25,319 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, you can't make me stay here. It's illegal. 649 00:25:28,519 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 8: You got none to hold me. 650 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 5: All right, and there's nothing to worry about. This won't 651 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,559 take very long. We got him in by the name 652 00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:34,400 of Miller. Coming in, He says, he thinks he knows you. 653 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 3: Miller. I don't know anything. 654 00:25:35,519 --> 00:25:35,799 Speaker 7: Miller. 655 00:25:39,279 --> 00:25:42,759 Speaker 9: Nice going, Paul, Why you've been? I said, why you been? 656 00:25:42,839 --> 00:25:43,759 What'd you do with the truck? 657 00:25:45,079 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 3: Grab him? 658 00:25:45,519 --> 00:25:45,599 Speaker 5: Ben? 659 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 7: Grab him? 660 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 3: All right? 661 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:50,519 Speaker 9: Let me write down? 662 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 3: Said, come on, mister said, I didn't do I didn't 663 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,799 do a thing. Well, look, you can't prove it. You 664 00:25:57,799 --> 00:25:58,839 can't prove I did. 665 00:25:58,920 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 9: They're going to approve it. 666 00:25:59,759 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 3: Paul. 667 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 9: Well, I'm going to help improve it. You should have 668 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,240 been a real good friend. 669 00:26:03,799 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 3: But give me a break, Danny, I didn't mean it, honest, 670 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:07,720 I didn't mean it. 671 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 9: I loan you the truck. You get boozed up, you 672 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,000 run down a little kid, and the grandmother. Then you 673 00:26:12,079 --> 00:26:14,160 take off and leave me hole in the sack like 674 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:14,799 I did it. 675 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 3: But I didn't mean it, Danny, it was an accident. 676 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:18,079 I wasn't boozed up. 677 00:26:18,279 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, you're a real good friend. I hope you get 678 00:26:21,039 --> 00:26:22,759 it in the neck. I hope you get it with 679 00:26:22,839 --> 00:26:26,279 both batts. Look, sergeant, it's not true. I wasn't boosed up. 680 00:26:26,319 --> 00:26:28,200 I only had two drinks, now, believe me. That's all 681 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,680 I had. Yeah, I couldn't have been drunk. It doesn't 682 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,519 affect me that way. Two drinks never hurt me. Cover 683 00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:34,839 of drinks never hurt anybody. 684 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 2: They killed a little boy and his grandmother. The star 685 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,160 you have just heard was true. The names were changed 686 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,160 to protect the innocent. 687 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 11: On February twenty eighth, trial was held in Superior Court, 688 00:26:53,759 --> 00:26:56,440 Department eighty seven, City and County of Los Angeles, State 689 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,839 of California. In a moment the results of that trial, 690 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,880 Paul Barton was filed on for violation of the State 691 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,000 Vehicle Code Section four eight, a hit and run felony, 692 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,039 and also for manslaughter two counts. He was convicted only 693 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,279 for Section four eight and received sentence as prescribed by law. 694 00:27:21,839 --> 00:27:24,480 A hit and run felony is punishable by imprisonment in 695 00:27:24,519 --> 00:27:27,559 the state penitentiary for not less than one or more 696 00:27:27,599 --> 00:27:39,680 than five years. You have just heard Dragnet, a series 697 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,400 of authentic cases from official files. Technical advice comes from 698 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,119 the Office of Chief of Police W. H. Parker, Los 699 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,359 Angeles Police Department. 700 00:27:56,319 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: Welcome back. This is a story that I really do 701 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,599 have a great place in my heart for because it's 702 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,279 a bit unusual and different from so many other Dragnet episodes, 703 00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:16,079 and particularly when we come to this man who's working 704 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:22,240 the second job, it really does feel like an utterly 705 00:28:22,759 --> 00:28:28,599 unbelievable nonsense alibi. In fact, if you weren't dealing with 706 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,640 a case or a series that used true life cases, 707 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,319 you would not make this up because it is such 708 00:28:39,559 --> 00:28:46,319 a transparently nonsensical story. And indeed, I think the first 709 00:28:46,359 --> 00:28:49,640 time I encountered the episode, I thought we were heading 710 00:28:49,759 --> 00:28:55,680 towards a point where by helping them him out, they 711 00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:02,359 would actually find evidence that he really was involved and 712 00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:06,400 he'd see that the lie was pointless. And that has 713 00:29:06,599 --> 00:29:11,359 happened on Dragnet a few times, but this one took 714 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,839 a really big turn towards the end, because right up 715 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,720 until the end, it looked like the same sort of 716 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:19,799 flim flam. 717 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 7: You know. 718 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: He told a story, but they could find no corroboration 719 00:29:24,519 --> 00:29:28,079 for it. They tried to reach out to his friends 720 00:29:28,079 --> 00:29:32,440 and the people whose names he'd given them, and they 721 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:38,640 couldn't find anyone. Until at last he's able to come 722 00:29:38,759 --> 00:29:42,920 through and we get a really good confrontation at the 723 00:29:43,079 --> 00:29:46,359 end with someone that, like I said, the first time 724 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,519 I encountered this and I think it's when I saw 725 00:29:50,519 --> 00:29:56,240 it on television, I really thought that it was a 726 00:29:56,359 --> 00:30:02,799 case where he was making the whole part about pull up. 727 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,000 But this story serves as yet another reminder that people 728 00:30:07,119 --> 00:30:12,640 can behave oddly, and sometimes even more oddly in real 729 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:18,160 life than authors of fiction might imagine. Well, now we 730 00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:22,680 turn to our Patreon supporter of the day, and I 731 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:28,160 want to thank Lisa, Patreon supporter since April of twenty sixteen, 732 00:30:28,319 --> 00:30:31,680 currently supporting the podcast at the shawmus level of four 733 00:30:31,759 --> 00:30:34,920 dollars or more per month. Thanks so much for your support, Lisa, 734 00:30:35,599 --> 00:30:38,359 and that will do it for today. If you're enjoying 735 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:44,319 the podcast, please follow us using your favorite podcast software 736 00:30:44,759 --> 00:30:47,880 and be sure to rate and review the podcast wherever 737 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,440 you download it from. We'll be back next Thursday with 738 00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:54,279 another episode of dragging that. But join us back here 739 00:30:54,359 --> 00:30:57,880 tomorrow for yours truly Johnny dollarware right. 740 00:30:58,079 --> 00:31:01,279 Speaker 12: After waiting twenty years for this old beneficiary to show 741 00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:04,079 up twenty years. Like I told you, the insured was 742 00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:07,960 Albert Schuyler King sixty five grand. Yes, he was a widower, 743 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,359 lived up near Elizabeth City, North Carolina, and he had 744 00:31:10,359 --> 00:31:12,799 a son named Henry. Henry was his sole heir and 745 00:31:12,839 --> 00:31:15,960 beneficiary of his policy. Okay, and you say that Kingwin 746 00:31:16,079 --> 00:31:18,839 died twenty years ago. Yes, during that big hurricane back 747 00:31:18,839 --> 00:31:21,440 in thirty eight. Remember it did about forty million dollars 748 00:31:21,519 --> 00:31:22,640 damage up and down the coast. 749 00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 2: Earl. 750 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,039 Speaker 7: I was a mere child at the time. 751 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 12: Oh sure, Oh was Henry, Well, he was ten, just 752 00:31:28,039 --> 00:31:30,839 a kid. Anyhow, it was several days before the old 753 00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:33,440 man's body was fine and the boy no trace of 754 00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:36,680 him disappeared in due course of time because of the 755 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,279 statute of limitations. The old man's estate was well, I 756 00:31:40,279 --> 00:31:43,079 guess it went to the state, but not his insurance. No, No, 757 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,319 we kept the matter of the insurance. Open company policy 758 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,839 requires a lot of legal finagling. But in the company's 759 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,079 history they turned up beneficiaries as much as fifteen eighteen 760 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,480 years after death by advertising. And that's what accounts for 761 00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:00,680 the sudden appearance of two Henry Kingdom's claiming to be 762 00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:04,559 the beneficiary of Albert Kingman's policy, and each having a logical, 763 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,799 legitimate story, each saying he didn't know about the insurance 764 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:08,480 until he saw it. 765 00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: I hope you'll be with us then in the meantime, 766 00:32:11,119 --> 00:32:16,160 send your comments to Box thirteen at Great Detectives dot nit, 767 00:32:17,119 --> 00:32:20,759 follow us on Twitter at Radio Detectives, and check us 768 00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:28,640 out on Instagram, Instagram dot com slash Great Detectives from Boise, Idaho. 769 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,480 This is your host, Adam Graham signing off.