1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Cougar Sports outstats now. 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Cougar Sports here one up three nine 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,320 ninety at three espno man brought up the three man 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,720 we very camp. Clark by my side, Hey, people behind 5 00:00:12,759 --> 00:00:15,279 the glass bin Credo is somewhere putting in the work. 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,280 We are live from West High School. West High High 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,039 School here in Salt Lake City. We are doing our 8 00:00:22,039 --> 00:00:23,679 show and it is brought to you by Powerhouse Training. 9 00:00:23,679 --> 00:00:25,960 Powerhouse Training right now they got the five E five 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,160 three divisions high school twelve through fourteen U, ten to 11 00:00:29,199 --> 00:00:32,159 twelve U. 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The fan high life for 22 00:01:00,439 --> 00:01:03,039 let's talk about stat segment now. Welcome in Jeff Buller. 23 00:01:03,079 --> 00:01:08,640 He's one of the contributors here, and my god, Jeff, 24 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:09,400 how we doing, brother? 25 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 3: Hey doing great? How's it going? Run? 26 00:01:13,079 --> 00:01:15,599 Speaker 2: Hey doing good? Thanks for joining us on this Saturday edition. 27 00:01:15,799 --> 00:01:17,480 Before we get into the numbers, I just want to 28 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:18,359 talk some ball with you. 29 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:19,439 Speaker 1: Obviously. 30 00:01:19,879 --> 00:01:23,159 Speaker 2: What have you liked about by US basketball play heading 31 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,840 into to March? Madis it seems like they've found that 32 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,920 third identity after multiple injuries? 33 00:01:29,359 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, what a season. 34 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 4: I mean, it's obviously not what most of us expected 35 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,280 and hoped for in our in our dreams, you know, 36 00:01:38,359 --> 00:01:41,480 with the best roster ever, the highest preseason ranking ever. 37 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: But you know, life, life. 38 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,879 Speaker 4: Happens, as they say, and you know, the injuries, the 39 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,120 smaller ones sort of accumulated, and then some bigger ones 40 00:01:51,159 --> 00:01:55,280 to Dawson and and uh just lost key contributors. And 41 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,640 I think we all felt it when Richie went down. 42 00:01:58,319 --> 00:02:01,239 You know, no are we are we even gonna make 43 00:02:01,239 --> 00:02:03,599 the tournament or are we just gonna, you know, be 44 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,719 one and done. But yeah, it's been great to see, 45 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:12,319 you know, the the effort, the coaches sort of pivot, 46 00:02:13,159 --> 00:02:15,039 and I like what Kevin Young said, he had to 47 00:02:15,039 --> 00:02:19,400 get less coachy and more you know, motivator and just 48 00:02:19,879 --> 00:02:23,120 dumb it down. I guess you could say, to make 49 00:02:23,159 --> 00:02:26,240 it so that they could, you know, know their assignments 50 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,159 better and just play full effort. And yeah, I'm I'm 51 00:02:30,599 --> 00:02:35,240 obviously the ceiling is lower a little bit, the floor 52 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,000 is quite a bit lower. Unfortunately without Richie, you know, 53 00:02:39,039 --> 00:02:43,479 he was just the glue and you know, rarely did 54 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,000 we have a bad game even if someone else was off, 55 00:02:46,039 --> 00:02:49,120 just because Richie could fill in the gaps. But I 56 00:02:50,159 --> 00:02:52,840 heard the last segment with Robbie that you guys just had, 57 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,439 and I agree, there's there's a solid chance they make 58 00:02:55,479 --> 00:02:56,280 the second weekend. 59 00:02:57,879 --> 00:03:00,319 Speaker 1: There's definitely a solid chance. That was gonna ask you 60 00:03:00,319 --> 00:03:00,680 that question. 61 00:03:00,719 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: I'm glad you're you're listening so and in because that's 62 00:03:02,879 --> 00:03:05,400 exactly what I was gonna gonna go with. Do you 63 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,840 think Gonzaga is that most favoral three seat that could 64 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,680 play or would you like to see it maybe match 65 00:03:09,759 --> 00:03:12,240 up again with Nebraska, but not an exhibition and go 66 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:12,680 at it. 67 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: For real this time. 68 00:03:14,599 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Nebraska, they're they're a team that's really 69 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:23,120 relying on the three Uh so you sort of, you know, 70 00:03:23,319 --> 00:03:25,719 pick your poison. I guess if they're hot, they're gonna 71 00:03:25,719 --> 00:03:28,599 be hard to beat. If they're not, it could be 72 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,520 a blowout like Wisconsin. You know, they sort of seem 73 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,599 a lot like Wisconsin to me. Nebraska. I don't know 74 00:03:35,639 --> 00:03:38,039 if it's the color and big big ten schools or what, 75 00:03:38,199 --> 00:03:41,199 but uh, you know, we we blew out Wisconsin when 76 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,800 they were off, but we've also seen Wisconsin when they're hot, 77 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,680 they're you know, beat Michigan, they've they what they just beat, uh, 78 00:03:48,879 --> 00:03:52,960 Illinois yesterday, So you know, Wisconsin, that's that wins looking 79 00:03:53,039 --> 00:03:54,719 better and better, and we just blew them out when 80 00:03:54,759 --> 00:03:58,960 they're they were off on their three pointer. Gonzaga, you know, 81 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,919 we got all that history and it would be in 82 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,400 their in their home court essentially. I don't like that 83 00:04:07,439 --> 00:04:11,560 matchup as much as Nebraska, but well, we'll see. 84 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 3: We'll see. 85 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,639 Speaker 2: As a fan, though, come on, don't don't lie to me, Jeff, 86 00:04:15,639 --> 00:04:18,759 and you never would. But keep it a buck b Yu. 87 00:04:18,879 --> 00:04:22,959 Gonzaga in Portland, their home turf Bau fansies still have 88 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,879 a good crowd. You knock them off, you send them packing. 89 00:04:26,519 --> 00:04:29,560 No more w c C for them, and they look, 90 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,120 we were validated. See we didn't need the w c C. 91 00:04:32,639 --> 00:04:34,160 Tell me that wouldn't hit home for you as a 92 00:04:34,199 --> 00:04:37,399 fan after all the nightmares of Gonzaga. 93 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:37,439 Speaker 1: Back of the day. 94 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,519 Speaker 4: Ah yeah, I mean they they were. They were the 95 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,720 kings of the Castle for that decade plus. We were there. 96 00:04:45,759 --> 00:04:48,160 There's no doubt about that. And they still are. I 97 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,839 mean a lead basketball team. Great, you know, great coach, 98 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,720 you know it's they're hard to beat. And you know 99 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,800 there's you never what is it death Texas and Gonzaga 100 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,319 and the Sweet sixteenth. So I wouldn't want to see 101 00:05:03,319 --> 00:05:03,959 that matchup. 102 00:05:07,439 --> 00:05:09,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, not many of us would, but it would feed 103 00:05:09,439 --> 00:05:10,319 families for sure. 104 00:05:10,519 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: Jeff, question for you here. 105 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 5: You know you mentioned earlier, you know the expectation, the 106 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,879 ceiling probably isn't as high as it was earlier in 107 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,399 the season for you. What would be what you have 108 00:05:19,439 --> 00:05:21,000 to do here in the tournament for the season to 109 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:25,399 be considered a success. 110 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 3: I mean it, I don't. 111 00:05:29,759 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 4: I mean success preseason was you know, making the Elite 112 00:05:34,399 --> 00:05:39,600 eate at least. So I'm hard pressed to see us 113 00:05:39,639 --> 00:05:44,120 getting there. I'd love love to so, but I think 114 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,079 in most fans doing through the lens of what's happened 115 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:53,759 and you know, losing Richie and et cetera. I think 116 00:05:54,399 --> 00:05:56,560 I think if we win a game, most fans will 117 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,839 be you know, okay, if we fight and barely miss 118 00:05:59,879 --> 00:06:03,160 the Sweet sixteen, it'll it'll be ah, what could have been? 119 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:03,639 Speaker 3: Season? 120 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 4: You know, we're not gonna be joyous, of course, but 121 00:06:05,759 --> 00:06:08,120 I don't. I don't think anyone's gonna be getting out 122 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,920 the pitchforks and torches and uh going after Kevin Young 123 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,360 or anyone else. So I think we're we'll be an 124 00:06:14,439 --> 00:06:15,720 understanding fan base. 125 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: No, they're gonna be fans if he loses the Gonzaga 126 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,120 that are gonna get out the pitchforks. See still cursed, 127 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,199 can't believe it. There's gonna be a few. There's weirdos, Zach. 128 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,720 I'm glad you described that they're weirdos. So appreciate you 129 00:06:29,759 --> 00:06:31,560 guys who are weirdos that are listening to the program. 130 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,319 But you are weird because I know you're out there. 131 00:06:33,319 --> 00:06:35,199 I'm gonna ben or I are gonna get a text, 132 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,560 or someone's gonna talk about it. Of that shouldn't lost 133 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,680 to Gonzaga, someone's gonna be mad. I'm telling you, it's 134 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,480 gonna happen. It's gonna have there. I think they'll be them, 135 00:06:42,519 --> 00:06:43,959 but but they're gonna get matched. 136 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 5: Up and. 137 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,519 Speaker 3: We all we offend it. 138 00:06:48,519 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 4: It means fanatic fanatic use reason, Look. 139 00:06:54,639 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: Fanatic lose reason. You're not wrong. 140 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:57,759 Speaker 2: Last question that we'll get into some of the stats 141 00:06:57,759 --> 00:07:01,519 today brought to you by Powerhouse Training, Power Stranding Today. Uh, 142 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,600 the led court, tell me your thoughts on seeing it 143 00:07:04,639 --> 00:07:07,199 is a lot of slippage. Obviously Brett Yormark took the 144 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,720 feedback and change it. Uh, you listened to an interview 145 00:07:09,759 --> 00:07:11,639 with Robie maccomes. They're gonna lose money probably on the 146 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,560 contract for that, but I think they did the right 147 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,399 thing because Christian Anderson, uh and all American got hurt. 148 00:07:17,399 --> 00:07:19,079 Speaker 1: But give me your thoughts just on on the court. 149 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:20,800 As a fan watching. 150 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,399 Speaker 4: It, Yeah, I mean very very cool. Apparently it was 151 00:07:25,439 --> 00:07:27,480 better in person than on TV. I thought it was 152 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,040 pretty cool on TV. Some of my my. 153 00:07:29,959 --> 00:07:31,079 Speaker 3: Little kids loved it. 154 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:35,079 Speaker 4: When you know the the court lit up after a j'sdunk, 155 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,480 you know. Uh, they they don't really like to watch 156 00:07:38,639 --> 00:07:41,279 basketball or sports match, but that sort of caught their attention. 157 00:07:41,439 --> 00:07:43,720 So maybe maybe it's a play towards a younger generation. 158 00:07:45,279 --> 00:07:49,319 But yeah, I mean maybe it's the future. Maybe the 159 00:07:49,319 --> 00:07:52,839 shoe technology needs to match the court. Maybe you have 160 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:57,839 you know, led court shoes that that can prevent that 161 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:02,079 slip page without adding to you know, injury risks. But 162 00:08:03,079 --> 00:08:05,959 I don't, I don't. I don't really fault big, you know, 163 00:08:06,439 --> 00:08:08,439 for your mark if he's trying to earn us some 164 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,040 money and get get a few more eyeballs there. I 165 00:08:11,079 --> 00:08:14,120 did notice a lot more national reporters chose the Big 166 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,600 twelve tournament this year over a lot of the other tournament. 167 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: Why I thought that was? 168 00:08:20,199 --> 00:08:24,839 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, higher, higher feeling all that. That freshman class. 169 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,319 You know, we got what four of the top six 170 00:08:27,439 --> 00:08:31,319 or seven? Oh, I just said it. Uh uh draft picks. 171 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you set it out there. You said, how dare 172 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,480 you you heard us not trying to say it? Jeff? 173 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,360 Why did you give the kids what they wanted? 174 00:08:39,519 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: The speakers here at Powerhouse stranding, here at west Of 175 00:08:42,279 --> 00:08:42,799 High School. 176 00:08:42,919 --> 00:08:44,279 Speaker 1: I got a kid doing I was just kidding. 177 00:08:44,279 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 2: I'm joking. Uh No, it's all jokes. But no, you 178 00:08:47,519 --> 00:08:49,600 you bring up a good point. Matt Norlander was there. 179 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,159 Matt Norland was there twice in provo by the way 180 00:08:53,279 --> 00:08:58,240 you got Jeff Goodman of the field of eighty field. 181 00:08:57,039 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: What is it US six four? Like all of the 182 00:08:59,039 --> 00:09:02,639 eight sorry I said sixty four. They should it should 183 00:09:02,639 --> 00:09:04,039 be the field of sixty four, not the field of 184 00:09:04,039 --> 00:09:05,720 sixty eight. But that's We're not going to go off 185 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:06,240 on my thing. 186 00:09:08,159 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 3: Eventually it's looking. 187 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 2: Like, well see, that's the reason why I said sixty 188 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,720 four is I had an argument last night with someone 189 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,200 about it expanding. I'm like, it should not expand stop that. 190 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,200 You know we got all this expansion. I get it anyway. 191 00:09:20,919 --> 00:09:22,720 You know, either you're in or you're in. There's no 192 00:09:22,799 --> 00:09:25,960 play to get in. No uh either either quitting Irish 193 00:09:26,039 --> 00:09:29,120 or your b YU in the discussion that all the 194 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,600 jokes asigned. But no, yeah, Jeff Goodman, the field of 195 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,440 sixty eight was there multiple people? Obviously ESPN you got 196 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,000 Jay Williams isn't there, but you got Sean Farnham, who's 197 00:09:38,039 --> 00:09:40,919 there friend for Scilla and obvious those guys are ESPN broadcasting. 198 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,399 But those are some of the best in the business. 199 00:09:43,919 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 4: Not even I think I think, I'm not sure, but 200 00:09:48,399 --> 00:09:51,360 even some of the football game guys like uh Andy 201 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,840 Staples and uh and. 202 00:09:53,919 --> 00:09:55,799 Speaker 1: R Wasston both are there as one hundred percent. 203 00:09:56,879 --> 00:09:59,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, they wanted to see the court. They 204 00:09:59,639 --> 00:10:01,600 wanted to you know, they liked the Big twelve eat, 205 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,519 so some of the things they're doing with the tournament 206 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,879 to and they also invited the media down to the 207 00:10:07,879 --> 00:10:11,120 floor again. You know, you pushed him up in the 208 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,320 rafters or the hockey box or whatever the last couple 209 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,759 of years, and so that that was a bad play 210 00:10:16,799 --> 00:10:19,159 from the start. But I think he's, yeah, mending some 211 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:19,879 wounds there. 212 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:21,519 Speaker 1: No, he definitely is. 213 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,159 Speaker 2: Last year they had that switched and there was definitely 214 00:10:26,159 --> 00:10:28,399 some complaints because the year before people were court side 215 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,480 and marchin Maddis they put you court side. They allow 216 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,600 television and beat writers for people to do that, and 217 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,000 it's great. I was at the game in Newark last 218 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,679 year where I saw that and look Andy Stables and 219 00:10:38,039 --> 00:10:39,799 Ari and a bunch of other people there obviously for 220 00:10:39,879 --> 00:10:41,840 Duke and I could assume the same. And you have 221 00:10:41,879 --> 00:10:45,919 to think, Jeff, if if b Yu beats skin Zagaz 222 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,080 in the sweet sixteen against Michigan State in San Jose, 223 00:10:49,159 --> 00:10:51,320 and I said this right, it's California and people of 224 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,159 California right, and just want to give the folks. A 225 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:59,679 reminder per Leonardi's you know bracketology of where those games 226 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,360 would be. Yet the final excuse me, the Elite eight 227 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,120 sites Chicago in the Midwest. 228 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: That's a great one. 229 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: Obviously, East Coast or East Region would be Washington, DC, 230 00:11:09,039 --> 00:11:11,679 south of Houston, Texas and west of San Jose, California. 231 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,799 You have to think it BYU is able to knock 232 00:11:13,799 --> 00:11:15,720 off Michigan State. That might be tough for Michigan State 233 00:11:15,799 --> 00:11:17,879 to travel from Buffalo, New York. I know their East 234 00:11:17,879 --> 00:11:19,519 Coast team all the way to the West coast, two 235 00:11:19,519 --> 00:11:21,879 time zones, and Ba's already in the West. If that 236 00:11:21,879 --> 00:11:24,399 would have happened, you have to like Boy's chances a 237 00:11:24,399 --> 00:11:24,840 little bit. 238 00:11:24,919 --> 00:11:26,519 Speaker 1: Just with that. Could they have tired legs and the 239 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:27,559 travel Maybe it. 240 00:11:27,519 --> 00:11:29,919 Speaker 2: Couldn't affect them, and that I could be completely wrong, 241 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,480 But if they do that, you'd have to wonder if 242 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,720 all the national guys would show up? 243 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: Can I wonder? Because and look, they're great people. 244 00:11:37,039 --> 00:11:39,879 Speaker 2: I met Adam Zagoria met him last year, was able 245 00:11:39,919 --> 00:11:42,600 to connect. These are great guys. But let's get into 246 00:11:42,639 --> 00:11:44,960 some of the data points. You penned a couple of 247 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:49,679 tweets out and relate you know to capacity about BYU. 248 00:11:49,759 --> 00:11:52,000 First one, you know, what does it say about ba's 249 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,279 fan base that they're one of a few schools with 250 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,240 over one hundred percent capacity in both of these sports? 251 00:11:58,480 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 3: Yeah? 252 00:11:58,759 --> 00:12:01,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, So you know, we got the final stats from 253 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,519 that were reported to the NCAA website, and and you know, 254 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,600 they're a handful of schools that sold out or had 255 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:13,159 one hundred percent or more capacity at you know, their 256 00:12:13,159 --> 00:12:16,840 football games or their basketball games. They have only four 257 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,639 programs reported one hundred percent or greater in both of 258 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:27,399 the revenue sports and those were Auburn, b y, U, Florida, 259 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,360 and Texas. So those are some those are. 260 00:12:30,279 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 3: Some massive fan bases, some great you know. 261 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,399 Speaker 4: Money, big money programs. I guess you could say well 262 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,039 resourced programs. 263 00:12:39,879 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 3: So that's that's just great to be in that. 264 00:12:41,759 --> 00:12:45,039 Speaker 4: I looked a little deeper and apparently Texas achieved that 265 00:12:45,279 --> 00:12:49,120 because the last couple of years they've been roping off 266 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,000 or putting big curtains. 267 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 3: Over their their upper bowl. 268 00:12:53,879 --> 00:12:56,759 Speaker 4: Fifteen I know, I know it's a fifteen thousand seat 269 00:12:57,519 --> 00:13:00,159 place that they've been doing. They say they have a 270 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:05,559 basketball configuration quote unquote where they bring down these banners 271 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,120 and these I think they project something up on them 272 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,799 through screens and so it sort of looks pretty cool. 273 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:17,480 But yet at their fifteen thousand feet Moody Moody Arena 274 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,679 is has a reported capacity of only like ten point 275 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:26,480 seven k right now, so they sort of cheated. And 276 00:13:26,759 --> 00:13:30,799 even Auburn and Florida their capacity is only ten thousand. 277 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:36,639 So you know, BYU's filling up in eighteen thousand seat 278 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,320 arena in the Marriott Center where you know, those other 279 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:44,360 two schools are just don't don't have that nightly grind 280 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,840 of filling up an arena for you know what. The 281 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,679 sixteen seventeen home games that most places. 282 00:13:50,279 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 2: Have for year, in the words of Andrew Peterson, are 283 00:13:54,279 --> 00:13:56,320 r ap running back here at ESP and the fan 284 00:13:56,639 --> 00:13:59,639 anytime I can interchannel a shot at the school at 285 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,879 nor What is just draping off stuff at the top? 286 00:14:01,919 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: What are the school up north for Crown All? What 287 00:14:03,759 --> 00:14:04,039 is this? 288 00:14:04,399 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 4: What is this? 289 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: Hopefully that made Andrew laugh, He'll text me if it didn't. 290 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 2: Anyway, No, I think it says a lot because, like 291 00:14:10,639 --> 00:14:14,639 you mentioned capacity BYU in eighteen thousand, obviously the move 292 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,799 to the Big twelve is what changed these attendance trends. 293 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,679 I think you would agree with that, no doubt about it. 294 00:14:19,039 --> 00:14:22,279 But with that being said, like can is expansion on 295 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,120 the table there? Because you have to think if BYU 296 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,080 is selling out in football, selling out in basketball and 297 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,840 basketball eighteen thousand, you have to wonder do you add 298 00:14:30,159 --> 00:14:32,679 you know, I don't want to jump too far, but 299 00:14:32,799 --> 00:14:36,120 like h twenty five hundred to five thousand more seats. 300 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:37,799 That might be a lot of seats, But like Kansas 301 00:14:37,879 --> 00:14:39,600 just built a new football stadium, right, you have to 302 00:14:39,639 --> 00:14:41,919 wonder that's on the docket in the future because if 303 00:14:41,919 --> 00:14:43,799 they're selling out right now, I have to think if 304 00:14:43,799 --> 00:14:45,960 you gave more fans and opportunity to get tickets and 305 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,399 the cheaper tickets are at the top, more people would 306 00:14:48,399 --> 00:14:49,240 attend these games. 307 00:14:50,639 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you gotta start, you gotta start game 308 00:14:52,759 --> 00:14:54,799 plan in it. If you're in the administration. I mean, 309 00:14:54,799 --> 00:14:58,080 they they want to maximize revenue, they want to increase 310 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,600 the fan base, they want more people there still sell 311 00:15:00,639 --> 00:15:02,679 it out. On the other side of the coin, you 312 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,600 don't want to expand and then you know, and then 313 00:15:06,919 --> 00:15:08,679 you know, not fill it up because these you know, 314 00:15:09,279 --> 00:15:13,600 does does sixty five thousand people in an eighty thousand 315 00:15:14,279 --> 00:15:18,679 seat stadium look worse than sixty two thousand and a 316 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,720 sixty two thousand stadium, you know, do you add it 317 00:15:22,759 --> 00:15:26,159 looks worse on TV. You know, you're not maximizing your 318 00:15:26,799 --> 00:15:30,759 your price points, just you know your supply demand, you 319 00:15:30,799 --> 00:15:34,360 want you want to sell out. That's ideal for you know, 320 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:39,120 maximizing your your pricing and you know your your revenue 321 00:15:39,159 --> 00:15:42,519 from these things. So it's it's uh, you know, and 322 00:15:42,559 --> 00:15:45,320 what's weird is most places have been actually been contracting, 323 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:51,039 especially basketball venues and with football places. You know, we've 324 00:15:51,039 --> 00:15:54,639 we've seen both the Marriott Center and uh uh and 325 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:59,759 Lavelle Edwards have decreased seatings as they've improved some of 326 00:15:59,759 --> 00:16:02,639 the taking some benches out, you know, put in the 327 00:16:02,679 --> 00:16:06,080 seats so you can't cram as many people in. Also 328 00:16:06,279 --> 00:16:09,360 just in the stadium Lavelle Edwards, you know, they've they've 329 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,039 changed a few areas to be a little more luxury 330 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,000 and decrease the seating that way a little bit. But 331 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,240 that's been the trend is more premium seeding, more boxes 332 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:25,639 and decreasing. So but yeah, uyus, we we hit sort 333 00:16:25,679 --> 00:16:28,759 of the I guess not the trifector, but you know, 334 00:16:28,799 --> 00:16:32,840 the double play I guess you could say of moving 335 00:16:32,879 --> 00:16:36,039 to the Big twelve, we'll say a trifect, you know, moving. 336 00:16:35,799 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 3: To the Big twelve. 337 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:41,919 Speaker 4: Number two, Yeah, going, you know, getting really good in 338 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,720 basketball and football. Right, we're top twenty five team pretty 339 00:16:44,799 --> 00:16:48,720 much perennially in those sports now. And you know the 340 00:16:48,759 --> 00:16:50,799 third is, you know, the boosters and bringing in the 341 00:16:50,879 --> 00:16:52,720 high level talent that people want to see. 342 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 3: So that's sort of the trifect. 343 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 4: And if you can keep those three three things going, 344 00:16:57,879 --> 00:16:59,840 and you have another couple of years of you know, 345 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,879 increasing demand and sellouts and yeah, you got you gotta 346 00:17:03,919 --> 00:17:04,200 do it. 347 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not wrong. You talk about the high level talent. 348 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:09,839 The reason why I used that baseball term. Side note, 349 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,240 I got a big baseball fan along with myself to 350 00:17:12,279 --> 00:17:13,480 my right, so I had to do it. He's got 351 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,039 on the Florida Mariners out the og had back there, 352 00:17:17,079 --> 00:17:18,799 Dontell willis going back in the day, and that's what 353 00:17:18,799 --> 00:17:20,440 we're going on. D train, D train, Come on, come 354 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,319 trust me. I know about my baseball. Just had to 355 00:17:22,319 --> 00:17:24,000 give that shout out for him. No, but you said 356 00:17:24,039 --> 00:17:26,559 the high level talent. Look, Bruce Branch, the third people 357 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:27,960 keep saying he signed, I don't know if I've seen 358 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,960 anything from BYU. I don't think he signed, but I 359 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,440 think he is committed. Just want to make sure I 360 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,440 clarify that because of that people, is he signed. I 361 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,960 think he, I think will, but not but has committed. 362 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,480 But that's one of the high level talent guys you mentioned, 363 00:17:39,519 --> 00:17:42,160 along with the Dean Ruker, the will open Shaws, those 364 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,359 guys come out. You missed out obviously on Austin Gooseby 365 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,880 who went to A Texas probably because his brother Trevor 366 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,039 Gooseby is in I think his last year or two 367 00:17:49,079 --> 00:17:51,480 as an offensive lineman. So but yeah, the high level 368 00:17:51,519 --> 00:17:53,559 talent is paying. And then I want to throw another 369 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,200 team in there, women's soccer. They've sold out games, right, 370 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,079 top team team won a Big Tel tournament. So it's 371 00:17:59,279 --> 00:18:00,680 it's all a sports when you look at it now. 372 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,599 Obviously football is king, basketball runs the ship, that's what 373 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,559 drives it. But you look at all of the other 374 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:10,480 sports now in BYU Athletics. BYU Athletics is primed right 375 00:18:10,519 --> 00:18:11,759 now in the Big twelve, and. 376 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: That leads me to this next question. 377 00:18:13,839 --> 00:18:16,079 Speaker 2: And look, I'm not trying to push for BOU to 378 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,480 be in any other conference, but I know how numbers 379 00:18:18,559 --> 00:18:23,160 and metrics influence conference realignment and media value. What what 380 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:27,359 about BYU's value and I guess you know, in their metrics, 381 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,559 how could that influence their conference realignment. 382 00:18:29,599 --> 00:18:31,079 Speaker 1: I think they're in the perfect spot. 383 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 2: But the attraction of BYU and the national fan base 384 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,480 and that you have to look. I'm not saying I'm 385 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,519 gonna jump into the SEC, not ready for that, but 386 00:18:38,559 --> 00:18:40,559 like you wonder, if the Big Ten is something that 387 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,839 you know is attractive maybe in the future. I don't 388 00:18:43,839 --> 00:18:45,839 think they should do it, not saying that they will, 389 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:50,920 but is that on the table with these metrics. 390 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,279 Speaker 4: I mean, with with those metrics and Bya's history, I 391 00:18:53,319 --> 00:18:56,640 mean we would have been been in a power conference 392 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:57,400 decades ago. 393 00:18:57,759 --> 00:19:00,079 Speaker 3: We all know that if we had. 394 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,799 Speaker 4: Different sponsoring institution and a different honor code and a 395 00:19:04,839 --> 00:19:09,039 different sort of if we were at different people, we yeah, 396 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,440 we would be the top of the list for you know, 397 00:19:12,839 --> 00:19:15,279 future expansion of of you know, the Big Ten or 398 00:19:15,319 --> 00:19:15,880 the SEC. 399 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 3: You know, for whatever reason, there's. 400 00:19:18,839 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 4: You know, they tend to like you know, state schools, 401 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,680 UH schools with medical I don't don't ask me why 402 00:19:25,839 --> 00:19:28,759 having a medical school makes you more attractive to a 403 00:19:28,799 --> 00:19:32,759 sports conference. But apparently it's a thing. It's so stupid, 404 00:19:32,839 --> 00:19:36,680 and I'm you know, I went to medical school. I understand, Uh, 405 00:19:36,799 --> 00:19:39,480 you know, the money that goes through research and that 406 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:44,680 you know, what what does that mean for sports for 407 00:19:44,759 --> 00:19:48,559 a for a sports conference? It has zero crossover in 408 00:19:48,599 --> 00:19:54,319 my in my opinion, So I'm you know, if b YU, 409 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,200 what what's the book by Sol Night? 410 00:19:56,279 --> 00:19:59,039 Speaker 3: You know so good? They can't ignore you exactly. 411 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 4: Uh that the b YU just has to keep doing that. 412 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,720 Uh you have to get to that point where if 413 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:10,079 there is and a future breakoff or consolidation or super 414 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:14,039 league that by you just can't be left out. And 415 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,240 you know, we're we're trending in the right direction. We 416 00:20:16,319 --> 00:20:17,640 gotta we gotta break through. 417 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:18,599 Speaker 3: Gotta got it. 418 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 4: We got to get to some final four us. We 419 00:20:20,279 --> 00:20:22,240 got to get into the playoff and make you know, 420 00:20:22,319 --> 00:20:25,160 make a little run here or there. It's not good 421 00:20:25,279 --> 00:20:28,240 enough just to be good. We gotta we gotta be great. Uh. 422 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,599 Speaker 3: So that's what we're building towards though. 423 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: They're building towards it right now. 424 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,319 Speaker 2: Look, it starts to get the top level talent and 425 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:36,440 then it starts getting out there. 426 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: And they've started to do that. You see it in football. 427 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 2: I mean, we get the number one line back out 428 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,160 of the trash reportal to me, that's evidence of that 429 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,599 you're trending that direction. 430 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,599 Speaker 1: You're not there, but you're training that direction. 431 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,039 Speaker 2: When you get the number one overall pick who I 432 00:20:48,079 --> 00:20:49,880 believe in, Look, that's me projecting it, right, But when 433 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,640 you get the number one high school recruit, which he 434 00:20:51,799 --> 00:20:56,400 is in AJD bonsa, like, it's trending that way. 435 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: But let's let's talk about tickets. 436 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,839 Speaker 2: So something that's always trending some than that is always 437 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,640 always doing fantastic. We all your main takeaways, you know 438 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,119 from the data that you gathered about the ticket sales. 439 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, so. 440 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 4: Uh, you know this is just looking at sort of 441 00:21:13,799 --> 00:21:17,599 selling tickets and selling your your basketball in your in 442 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:22,359 your football stadia. I looked at all the schools and 443 00:21:22,599 --> 00:21:25,319 you know, the FBS, and looked at their you know, 444 00:21:25,559 --> 00:21:30,640 their attendance, their percent capacity and uh, those same schools 445 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:35,200 their basketball programs, their their attendance and their capacity, and uh, 446 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:36,960 you know that's sort of where I figured out, hey, 447 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,319 you got these four programs that did one hundred percent 448 00:21:39,319 --> 00:21:41,960 in both uh that we that we talked about earlier. 449 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,599 But I also sort of did a little tweak to 450 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,359 the metric. I said, well, these are your two revenue sports. 451 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,119 This is what's bringing in your money. You know, basketball, 452 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,720 some places they only have a ten or fifteen thousand 453 00:21:52,759 --> 00:21:56,119 seed arena. You know they're probably not making as much 454 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,400 from that. But you have a lot more uh inventory. 455 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,079 You know, you have sixteen seventeen home games most year, 456 00:22:02,799 --> 00:22:06,359 whereas you'll only have you know, six seven eight home 457 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,759 games if you're if you're a football program. So I 458 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:15,640 tallied up what was your average football attendance plus two 459 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,039 and a half times your basketball attendants and then came 460 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,160 up with sort of like a graded metric of of where, 461 00:22:23,079 --> 00:22:25,599 you know, where you are, who's selling the most tickets, 462 00:22:25,599 --> 00:22:29,119 who's probably earning the most money by you know, selling 463 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,319 out their their stadium, just selling a lot of tickets, 464 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,200 getting a lot of butts in the seats. And you 465 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,119 know number one was Tennessee, then Michigan Alabama, then the 466 00:22:38,799 --> 00:22:41,680 Texas Texas A and m b YU was right around 467 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:46,200 I think fifteen sixteen on that list. Got I mean 468 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,480 fourteenth okay, yeah. 469 00:22:48,319 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 3: Fourteen them. 470 00:22:49,319 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 4: I need to look at my own data more. I 471 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,759 think I was remembering the line on the Excel spriatsheet. 472 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: But that's really good numbers right there. Yeah, Hey, that's impressed. 473 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, fourteen, I mean you're you're, you're, you're right in 474 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,720 the mix, you know there. I don't think us any 475 00:23:03,759 --> 00:23:08,079 other non uh big ten big or non big ten, 476 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:13,039 non sec program in like the top was Iowa State, 477 00:23:13,079 --> 00:23:15,240 I think was like twenty sixth or twenty seventh or 478 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,839 something like that, and then Texas Tech was around thirtieth. 479 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,160 But yeah, I mean UYU is up and up with 480 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,559 heady company. Once again, when you look at you know, 481 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,880 how many tickets are selling to the revenue sports and 482 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,000 that's that's going to be showing up in the bottom 483 00:23:32,039 --> 00:23:35,079 line of these reports that come out and over the 484 00:23:35,079 --> 00:23:37,079 next year or two when we see the finances on 485 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:37,400 all this. 486 00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll obviously have you back on when those 487 00:23:40,559 --> 00:23:43,119 come out to break it down as well. You mentioned 488 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,240 the schools and somebody who like the textis tech and 489 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:46,920 we'll get you out of here on this. Are there 490 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,079 any programs that people assume have elite fans support but 491 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,799 the numbers don't back it up. I'm looking at the 492 00:23:51,799 --> 00:23:54,200 list right now and obviously the ones you mentioned, but 493 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,680 I feel like that's a valid question because sometimes a 494 00:23:56,759 --> 00:23:59,839 brand name, you know, it should correlate right with revenues 495 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:01,559 and sales and tickets, but not always. 496 00:24:01,559 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: Because you mentioned Texas Tech. 497 00:24:02,759 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 2: You know, their twenty seven towards the bottom, but they 498 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,480 were a top team and they're paying their players right 499 00:24:07,559 --> 00:24:10,279 and even their basketball, but the ticket sales don't say 500 00:24:10,319 --> 00:24:13,200 that though, like compared to like the BYUS, the Texas, 501 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,519 the Alabama's, the Michigans, I would have assumed that Texas 502 00:24:15,519 --> 00:24:16,400 Tech would have been higher. 503 00:24:17,519 --> 00:24:20,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Texas Tech, I think they were close to 504 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:25,880 ninety five percent or above in ninety seven both football, 505 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,079 in both football and basketball, but they don't have you know, 506 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,920 as large of venues as you. 507 00:24:32,839 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: Know, the other progress. 508 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 4: You know, you've got you've got the Big House, which 509 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,240 has one hundred and ten thousand, and they even oversold that. 510 00:24:39,319 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 3: I think. 511 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 4: I think their average attendance was about one hundred and 512 00:24:42,079 --> 00:24:46,839 fourteen thousand a game. So most places you add their 513 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,359 basketball to their football, and they're nowhere approaching that. So 514 00:24:52,079 --> 00:24:54,559 you know, that's that's just sort of how that that 515 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,240 factored out. But yeah, I mean you got to, you know, 516 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,440 you got to have the bigger venues, and those were 517 00:25:00,839 --> 00:25:03,319 increased over time as there was demand, and you know, 518 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,839 hopefully we're seeing that from BYU, and you know, hopefully 519 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,000 some other Big ten, Big twelve programs you know, are 520 00:25:09,079 --> 00:25:11,839 up in their game as well and can get more 521 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:16,920 strength and eyeballs and finances towards towards the conference and 522 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:17,839 we can all benefit. 523 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 2: Tell me that you're a basketball school if your Kansas 524 00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:23,880 in Arizona with that's however, you're a basketball school for 525 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,119 thirty ninth and fortieth on this list and you see 526 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,559 eighty four and eighty six capacity, and I'm like, I 527 00:25:29,559 --> 00:25:32,319 wonder how much of that you know basketball. 528 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,839 Speaker 6: Because they are basketball schools, And I think that Notre 529 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,759 Dame is like thirtieth on the list or something, because 530 00:25:39,279 --> 00:25:41,880 they you know, eight thousand, twenty eight. 531 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're they're like you know, they're they're elite. You know, 532 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,720 they're blue blood. They're among the top brands, you know, 533 00:25:47,799 --> 00:25:51,000 top five brands for sure in football, but they have 534 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,839 very little basketball support, small venue, and you know that 535 00:25:55,839 --> 00:25:59,240 that drops them down to that level. So it's important 536 00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:01,720 to have revenue for both sports. They both they both 537 00:26:01,759 --> 00:26:02,880 pay the bills. 538 00:26:03,519 --> 00:26:04,559 Speaker 1: They both pay the bills. 539 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,559 Speaker 2: Quitting irish or dropping because they quit just kidding, that's 540 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,920 tongue and shit. Don't get upsell with me, Jeff. Before 541 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,400 we let you go. What's the best way we can 542 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,880 support you what you do and how you do it? 543 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I just you know, I dabble in 544 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,480 this stuff. I'm not a professional at all. Just follow 545 00:26:19,519 --> 00:26:22,519 me on Twitter JJ Fuller seven to. I do have 546 00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:26,359 a substack that I just play some of the articles 547 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,400 I've written in other places. I just sort of keep 548 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,400 them there and and there's some data to run through 549 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,039 on that. But yeah, just enjoy. Thanks for having me 550 00:26:36,079 --> 00:26:38,480 on and gokubs. 551 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,559 Speaker 2: Of course follow on exit JJ Fuller seventy two. You 552 00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:44,279 can also get a substack at substack dot com slash 553 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,440 at Fuller seventy two as well. 554 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,759 Speaker 1: Always appreciate your time. Jeff will catch up with you, Sue. 555 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 2: That's Jeff Fuller ESPN the fan contributor and also dam 556 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,160 mccoogie is down there at tuscal Loose, Alabama. Fun fact, 557 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,519 my sister served a mission and she married ready for 558 00:26:59,559 --> 00:27:01,640 this cam you and AP knows this, but I don't 559 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:02,200 know if I told you. 560 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,599 Speaker 1: Just married my. 561 00:27:03,599 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 2: Brother in law who is from the atl So how 562 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,400 about that? How about go dogs and how about you know, 563 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,759 go roll tide. That's interesting in that household for sure, 564 00:27:14,759 --> 00:27:17,079 But that was Jeff Fuller. Let's talk about stats, guys. 565 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,839 Rely from West to High School on the south end 566 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,200 of the field. We'll be here for until one pm, 567 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,119 maybe even a little bit after till two. Actually we're 568 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,079 gonna be until two pm. You don't want to miss it. 569 00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:28,880 They got the five v five right now. Three division 570 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,720 high school twelve to fourteen. You attended twelve, you register 571 00:27:31,799 --> 00:27:34,960 with the team or solo, three pool play games, single 572 00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:39,319 elimination tournament. You don't want to miss an opportunity to develop. 573 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,920 They got multiple Lee High players from Lehigh High School. 574 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,279 You got Olfa Academy as well. American Fork Bunch. Former 575 00:27:46,279 --> 00:27:48,559 BA offensive line me Tony Kanoute is the one putting 576 00:27:48,599 --> 00:27:51,839 it on. Appreciate him giving back to the community. Ben 577 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,960 critics are somewhere. I've seen him running off. You know 578 00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:56,480 he's doing this thing as always. Guys, let's take a 579 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,960 brief time out. We'll be back on the flip. We'll 580 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,599 get into another college basketball segment. 581 00:27:59,720 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: Let's