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Speaker 1: I want to welcome everyone back to the Pea Show.

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Stormy Waters is back. How you doing, Stormy?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing good. I'm doing good.

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Speaker 1: Now about yourself doing good? Doing good? So this is

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probably a little different than some of the appearances you've

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been making lately. Yeah, how did you put it? You

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just put it right before we started it, right before

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I hit record. Let's talk about WASP history and specifically,

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let's look for some heroes in the past that some

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people may have overlooked as heroes. You've you've gone down

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that rabbit hole, right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I have. I as a member of this class

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that everyone seems to forget existed. I very much focus on,

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you know, kind of the better years of my people

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before we were, before we took our eye off the ball.

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Speaker 1: What's really interesting, though, is is that you know one

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specific group you know we're going to look at is uh. Yeah.

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I think most people who would be listening to this

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would definitely think that they were they were villains and

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they tried to do something, they tried to do something awful,

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and you you'll you'll be happy to know that I am.

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I gave I gave my lovely bride an overview of

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this today and she's like, oh, what could have been?

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Speaker 2: Yes, what could have been? I bet you, Like I

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talked to a couple of guys in our scene about this,

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and nobody has any idea that this happened. So what

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I hope to do with you? Pete over you know,

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probably you know this episode and maybe a couple others

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go through the fascist America that could have been and

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what was called in the press at the time the

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business plot. And it would probably surprise a lot of

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people that are listening to this that not only were there,

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let's put this way that they've all heard of, like

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of Charles Lindberg and America First, but there was a

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lot more to it than that. And Charles Lindberg didn't

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just up and get the idea of America first. America

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first was the second at bat right, the plan be,

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so to speak of unfortunately, probably the most villainized people

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American history outside of well in you know, contemporary history,

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outside of Adolf Hitler, right, Like you're supposed to hate

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you know, Uncle Adolph, and you're supposed to hate Mussolini. Yeah,

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that's correct, And you're supposed to hate guys like John

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Pierpont Morgan and David Rockefeller as villains. Right, these are

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robber barons. Right, We're we're forced to, like a lot

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of us, come through at least some level of conspiratory

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land to get to where we are, right, Like, it

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takes a while going down all these different rabbit holes

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and you get to your final one. At the final one,

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you realize, like, who's really at the bottom of all

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of this? And then then you switch. Well, some people

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will stay and can see iratard land, and this is

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like I view, these are like the people that view

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that certain group as omnipotent and all knowing and that

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resistance is futile. Like, those are the conspirators that got

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to the bottom of the rabbit hole and didn't get

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the urge that people like me got or people like

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you got, because one or two things is going to happen.

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You're going to get to the bottom of that last

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rabbit hole and you're either going to get real political,

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real fast, or you're just going to stay down there

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and be useless. But the ones that decide to get

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real political, real fast, they don't know it, but they

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take a lot of that with them, a lot of

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all of the other false rabbit holes that they were

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taught like, or that they went down and all the

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villainous deeds of John D. Rockefeller and all the villainous

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deeds of John Pierpont Morgan, and it would surprise many

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of them that these great men saw what was happening

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in Germany. And there's really no other way to put it.

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What these men witnessed was a miracle. Like up until

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that point, these men, I mean, there's gonna be a

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lot of civil war hate and stuff and you know,

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evil Yankee fucking carpetbagging industrialist baskets. But their enemy is

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now that our current current enemy. So maybe we can

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be a little forgiving as we go forward, because these

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guys very much built this country, like as we see

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like those all of those you know, huddled masses that

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the Statue of Liberty talk about all these peasant farmers

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from all over Europe, like these people barely knew how

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to read and write, but they weren't stupid. And we

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joke about how all these people thought that you know,

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the cities were paved with gold, like they're so stupid,

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but they don't understand what America was up until World

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War One. World War two. What America did from eighteen

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sixty arguably to nineteen ten was create more wealth per capita. Right,

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So you can say whatever you want about the rich industrialists,

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they actually shared the wealth, unlike our current elite. They

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built more wealth as a nation than any previous civilization

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in history. All right, whether you can add ancient Egyptians,

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ancient Greeks, ancient Chinese, ancient Indians, whatever, put them all

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together in a plot, right, and they won't even fill

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up half of the glass that these men created in

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under one hundred years. So when they saw the Great Depression,

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right and what it was doing to the country, and

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they looked across the ocean at what Hitler did in

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four years, these men thought it was a miracle. And

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guys like closet leftists Anthony Sutton wrote books about, you know,

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how the Nazi government was just a creation of you know,

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rich bankers and industrialists, is a puppet, you know, just

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like the commons were. And that's not the case at all.

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Guys like Henry Ford, guys like Jack Morgan, guys like

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I forget the guy the guy's name that started IBM

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doesn't matter, and guys like Nelson Rockefeller when they saw

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what Hitler was doing. It was a fucking miracle to them,

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like he did something impossible, and they saw what the

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Soviet Union was doing, and they're like, this is not

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the thing. So the business plot is the story of

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how these industrialists sent agents, personal representatives to every single

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one of the fascist governments for years. For a year

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and a half, the one that Jack Morgan sent was

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operating out of Morgan and Hodges, which was the Paris

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affiliate right his Paris subsidiary, and sending reports back to

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Jack Morgan from Germany about how Hitler came to power,

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how he was able to do what he did, and

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when they thought they learned enough, they went to recreate it.

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They wanted here what they saw Hitler having there and

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if it wasn't And the other thing that pisses me off, like,

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not only do we trash our own heroes because we've

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been trained to think that they were villains, but we

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lawed our enemies. You know how many fucking stupid right

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wingers will hit me with Smedley Butler quotes a fucking communist.

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The only reason you don't have a based fascist government

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in America is because of that. That terrible terrible human

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being and him betraying the men that put their faith

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in him. So like, for instance, I'll read you a

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quote from the Morgan Library. It is very interesting. This

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is to give you an idea of what could have been.

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And then I'll get into who these men were. Right.

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So there were three, you know, on the ground guys

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that were all heads of various industry at one point

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in time or another, right that went overseas and fought

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in World War One and came back and now we're

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the head of veterans organists as inside the US after

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World War One that kind of organized around what was

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called the Bonus Army, right, and two of those guys,

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and mister Maguire and mister mister Doyle, were heads of

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the Massachusetts and New York Veterans Associations. And it was

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the Veterans Associations that these guys, as in like the

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guys higher up the Bouchain, saw as the mechanism at

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which a fastist government could come to power. They saw

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it in Germany and they saw it in Italy, and

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they saw how central the veterans were from the very beginning.

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So through emissaries like Rs Clark, guys like Jack Morgan

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and his good friend Henry Ford, and they were very

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close friends. In fact, the largest or the most frequent

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contributor to letters to the editor and frequent penner of

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op eds in the Dearborn Independent was one Jack Morgan.

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Speaker 1: And as a JP Morgan, as JP Morgan's.

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Speaker 2: Son, yep, JP Morganson and after his death the chairman

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of JP Morgan Chasing Company.

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Speaker 1: And for those who are unaware, yeah, and for those

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who are unaware of the Dearborn Independent, can't tell them

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what that was.

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Speaker 2: The Dearborn Independent was Henry Ford's newspaper. So not only

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was it in we've always heard the stories that the

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news newspaper was something that he printed as like a

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side project, you know, as like a little thing a

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crazy old man did, and he had to stuff him

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in the glove compartment of every Ford car and truck

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to you know, get it out there. It's not the case.

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A large The reason that they were able to get

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such a wide circulations because it was subscription based. It

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was basically like podcasts and shit are today and substacks.

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It was like a vast majority of Dearborn Independent newspapers

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went out via subscription and it was the most read

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newspaper outside of the New York Times in Wall Street

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because you know those people were the enemy, and I

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mean just finance in general is villainized. But anyways, you

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want to talk about Jewish power, the only place you

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were hearing about Jewish power was in the Dearborn Independent

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and Father Coughlin's radio showing that was it. And the

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largest contributor outside of Henry Ford himself to that operation

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was the head of JP Morgan, Chase and Company, a

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guy that we often villainize. The second most frequent op

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ed contributor was one John D. Rockefeller. Interesting man and

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his sons would continue the tradition another I'll get more

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into Anglo history later or lost history leader. But another

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guy that's frequently villainized is Alan Dulles and his brother

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John Foster Dulles. If I had to stack rank great

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Patent would be somewhere in the middle of that list.

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And guys like John Foster Dulles, He's probably one of

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the most brilliant statesmen the United States ever produced, and

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his brother Alan Dulles, by the way, both of them

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were very high ups in the trying to think is

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a Lutheran or Episcopal church. I'm still getting the hang

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of Protestantism and the many denominations that you know make

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it up. But these men were not only fascist sympathizers,

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but they actively tried to create a fascist government and

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became and came within a cunt hairs distance away from

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actually pulling it off. And if it wasn't Smanley Butler,

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you know, I guess staying true to the brokenness that's

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inside of a person to be a communist and him

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running to FDR and snitching on all these men, you

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probably would have had one and the two representatives John

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of the two veterans organizations, John Doyle and mister Maguire,

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they wanted Smedley for the position, right, so the way

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that they planned it, Oh never mind, I'm going to

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back up a little bit. But you could have had

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a fascist government and the people that you're taught to

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hate or just flat out think don't exist came inches

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away from achieving just that. And there's virtually no history

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right outside of knowing that JP Morgan is a bad man,

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a right John D Rockefell was a bad man. The

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history of America from the Civil War to World War

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One like doesn't exist. It's not taught. So we became

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the richest civilization in the history of the world. Nobody

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fucking talks about it. How did that happen? Who did it?

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It's been virtually raised. And we'll start with JP Morgan,

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Jack's father, and then I'll go into some other people

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that you were probably taught to hate. What do you think, Pete,

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You start with peer Pont.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's a It's one of the most interesting

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men that ever lived. For damn sure, yes he was so.

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Speaker 2: John Pierpont Morgan was the great grandson of Captain Jack Moore.

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That's who Jack, his son was named after, right, was

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probably one of the I guess most notable privateers after

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the Revolutionary War, saving countless countless white souls from enslavement

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on the Barbary coast and the killer of many many

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English sailors. You know him today. You are familiar with

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this man, or at least is his likeness. He is

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emblazoned on well the most popular rum model in the country.

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John Pierpont's Morgan, John Pierpont Morgan's granddad is that Captain

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Morgan at like literally a pirate, a privateer. So John

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Morgan believed that he owed all of his success to America,

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and he firmly believed it. And this is something our

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elites don't get, right, So how do I put this?

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A lot of the things that we associate with nobility,

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the concept of nobless, oblige, and duty, died in Europe

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about two hundred years before they died in the United States.

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America was never supposed to have an aristocracy, or like

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never have one, you know, officially, but that's what these

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men viewed themselves as. And if you have unlimited money,

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all the money in the world, right, and you never

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have to work a day in your life, and you

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can have anything you want whenever you want it. On

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the surface to regular people, that sounds like the best

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life ever. But it's not. It's hell. It's very depressing life.

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It's a purposeless life. So the one thing that we

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know about man is that man needs purpose. He doesn't

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need sustenance like you can give him sustenance you can

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give This is why communism never works. All Right, you're

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basically in a rare, as Thomas put it, You know

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you're basically living in a prison slash retirement community, just

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waiting to die. That's what would have been these people's

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lives if they didn't search for meaning in other places.

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And the thing that indexed the most with their soul

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was the nobility and aristocracy of Europe, and the traditions

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of the British aristocracy continued in America far longer than

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they continued in England. These men lived their lives around

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duty and honor. I mean, one of the most famous

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quotes I think from JP Morgan when asked if somebody

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could get alone, you know, let me pull up the quote.

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It's really good. There you go. His quote about taxes

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is actually funny too. Every American has the god given

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right to evade taxes if he can get away with it.

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No citizen has a moral obligation to assist in maintaining

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his own government unless my choice.

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Speaker 1: Huh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's pretty pretty interesting guy. I don't care how

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much money a man has or how much credit. He

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can have all of the silver in Christendom and he

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won't get a dollar from me. I'm sorry. He can

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have all the collateral in Christendom and he won't get

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a dollar from me. And the reporter goes, really not

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if he had all the collateral in the world, all

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the money in the world, And he goes, no, sir.

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The first thing is honoring. The second thing is character,

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and he believed it. Everybody he dealt with, right, was

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basically on a handshake deal. Like there were contracts and

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for stock issuances and legal things, right, that had to

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be done, But so much of I guess you can

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call it Peerpont's diplomacy was done entirely on reputation. So

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to him that was enough. And this is really the

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problem he had with a certain group of people that

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kept on trying to barge their way into American finance,

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particularly one group of them that were financed by a

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certain banking interest that tried desperately to get in and

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were relegated to stocks. Right, So being a stockbroker was

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not glamorous at all. Right, So being a stockbroker would

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be what we would have as an equivalent as like

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people that trade crypto, right, Like that's where sketchy people go. Right,

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that's like you know, that's fly by night ship. Right.

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This is why the termed speculator is an insult, right, Like, oh,

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you know, these people don't care about anything, They're just speculators.

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That was basically how it was viewed. Right. Banking was separate,

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banking was legacy based right, and the wasps desperately like

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to the last, defended banking right. So banking in America

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was something that you had your family had to be

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in the country for eight hundred years or more to

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even get an apprenticeship in like you could wouldn't even

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be a courier. They were super super strict about it

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because they viewed it as they viewed finance, high finance,

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as you know, the aristocracy. That was the barrier. You

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either became a captain of industry, right, or you became

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a partner at one of these firms. And back in

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the day, it wasn't like it is now with corporations.

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These were all partnerships, right. So the only thing that

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operates similarly today is law firms. Right. So making partner

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is like, you know, you have made it right, it

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will If you make partner at a shitty firm, then

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you haven't right. But if you are like, you know,

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I'm trying to think, what's what's a You can't believe

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I'm blanking. There's a you know, any one of the

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top twenty law firms in the country. If you make

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a partner at any one of those, your set for

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life because now you get a share of all the

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money that that firm makes, right like you basically get

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a stipend for life. And that's how it was in banking.

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So being made a partner was like being knighted in America.

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And this is why, almost to a man, the wasp

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aristocracy was in Drexel Berner, Lambert or Brown Brothers or

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Morgan and Company. A partner in any one of those

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banks could pick up the phone and get any senator

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on the line whenever you wanted to, right like you

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were somebody at that point. Unfortunately it's not the same.

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Speaker 3: Today, but I've lost my train of Oh yes, yeah,

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i am JP Morgan's Super Chad Adventures.

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Speaker 2: So not a lot of people will know this, but

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the United States, well, one of the reasons that the

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United States has the reputation it has around its currency,

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right everyone thinks that, oh, the dollar is the world

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reserve currency and is the number one currency in the

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world because of the US military, and if you don't

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use it will just come fuck you up, like that's

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true in the most extreme sense, but that's not why

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people want to use it. Right, It's not like we're

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forcing everybody to get their money into dollars. Literally you can.

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The one thing that you will notice about any impoverised

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country that you get into, they like if you give

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them a dollar, like that shit is getting stuffed in

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the mattress. They view that dollar, you know, like it

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is made of gold. Right, So like the thing in Russia,

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the thing in China, Like people hoard physical American currency

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like their gold bars because it basically is. And the

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reason I say that is because the United States of

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America is the only country in the history of the

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world that is never called in its currency. And what

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that means is, I mean like England did this recently,

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Europe has done this. The EU has been alive for

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a whopping you know, thirty years, is already to do

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it twice. France is fucking notorious for the shit, right,

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Like they will call in all of their notes and

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destroy them and issue you out new notes. Right it's basically,

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you know, it's currency default. And the United States is

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the only nation in the history of the world to

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never have recalled its currency. There are even countries, you know,

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in the Middle Ages that had gold coins that would

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have to recall their currency. And you can dig a

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dollar out of the fucking ground in your backyard from

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seventeen ninety nine and walk into a grocery store and

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buy something with it. Not that you could want to,

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but you could, right. It's also why America has never

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actually defaulted on its debt. It's come close twice, and

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technically it's come close three times, but people don't know

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about the third time. It's also why they don't know

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how fucking Chatji she fucking Morgan is, but it's never

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actually done it. So America is the world's reserve currency

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because we are the most dependable when it comes to money.

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And it's that dependability knowing that it's always going to

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be there and one hundred or two hundred, three hundred

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years from now, like that dollar you dug out of

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your backyard. That is why people all over the world

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scramble to get their hands on physical dollars, and you

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don't need to hold the gun to their head. Doesn't

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matter how many fucking missiles or aircraft carriers that you have,

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They're going to do it all themselves. And in eighteen

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ninety America was on the verge of going bankrupt, like

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it was happening. If nothing was done, and nothing could

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be done from inside the government, America is going to

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be bankrupt in less than six months. And what John

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Pierpont Morgan did was bail the entire country out himself.

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He put every single thing he owned, every share of

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stop everything. He would have been homeless, literally, and the

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guy had like fucking twelve homes and the first yacht,

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like the first mega yacht, the Corsair, would have been

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gone to. He leveraged every single thing he had, and

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he still didn't have enough. He was twelve percent short. Right,

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Why was he doing it in the first place, Well,

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because he believed it was his duty to do so

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as a member of the unofficial aristocracy of America. These

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men believed that they had to do to the nation.

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And so how he got that other twelve percent is

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really interesting because there was a whole bunch of people

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that at this point in time had made a fortune

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trading stocks, you know those people, and those people didn't

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want to chip in a fucking dollar. So your pond

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held the hostage. He lured them.

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Speaker 4: All the all the Saturday people bankers onto his yacht,

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the Corsair for lunch, and.

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Speaker 2: They're going to do a cruise around New York Harbor.

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But shortly after they pulled off, they didn't go anywhere

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near the harbor. They just went straight out into the ocean,

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and about two hours later, now land very very very

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far away. Perepont comes upstairs from a stateroom and says,

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all right, one of two things is going to happen.

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Option A is you gentlemen are going to voluntarily come

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up between the you know the point there's six of them.

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The six of you are going to come up with

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the other twelve percent to bail out the United States

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alongside my ninety percent or sorry, like eighty eight percent.

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And if you don't want to do that, all of

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my money is liquid right now, having collateralized everything that

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I own, right, basically borrowing against everything that he owned,

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which he reminded them right these margin loans were extended

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by the brokerage firms that were sitting around the table

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from him at that very moment. So he was like,

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all right, guys, I've leveraged everything I own, and you

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guys have been nice enough to extend me right, several

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multiples on that in credit. So if you don't help

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me bail out the United States government, I will take

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my three x net worth that's all liquid, right, and

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I will have the captain radio my man on the shore,

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who will in turn tell my man at the stock

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exchange to begin shorten your stocks. And I will have

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bankrupted every single one of you by the time you

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ever get into port to warn anybody about it. And yes,

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the country will go out of business, will go bankrupt,

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and so will all of you. But I'll have no

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one to pay these margin loans back to because you'll

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all be out of business. And then I'll make all

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that money shortening your stock all the way down to zero.

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So I'm going to get my money to bail out

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the government. One way or the other. It's either whether

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you want to cooperate with me or you want to

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be put out of business by me, and then me

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taking that money from putting you out of business and

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using that to bail out the government and having to

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put up none of my own. And what do you know,

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all of a sudden, a bunch of immigrants got real patriotic,

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real fucking quick, and that's why the US has never

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defaulted on its debt. Thanks du the ego Batman, JP Morgan, Chase,

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I'm sorry, JP Morgan and his company JP Morgan and Kevin.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, somebody's gonna jump somebody's gonna jump in and say,

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you know he he was one of the planners of

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the of the Federal Reserve.

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Speaker 2: Things like, the Federal Reserve is actually a brilliant system

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if you keep the currency peg to gold. The Federal

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Reserve system was built to stop what arguably has caused

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every single financial crash we've had. All Right, the Federal

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Reserve wasn't supposed to be omnipoted. It was supposed to

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be feudal in nature. Right now, the Federal Reserve is

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a monolith. The New York Fed and all of the

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other little tiny feds are a joke. It may as

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well just be the New York Fed and one interest

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rate for the whole country. Well, that's not how it

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was laid out. A farmer in Iowa was never ever

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supposed to be paying the same interest as a stockbroker

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in Wall Street. It became that way after FBR. So

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the Federal Reserve system that everyone and every stupid libertarian

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has been trained to hate worked an awful lot like

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how one Frederick List imagined such an institution working. Right,

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it's not supposed to be monolithic. It was supposed to

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be decentralized and offer decentralized interest rates. The only reason

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you've had the catastrophes we've had is because you're forcing

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a farmer in Iowa to pay the same cost of

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capital as a stockbroker in New York City. But there's

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a lot of things that Roosevelt destroyed, and this fascist coup,

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which we'll get into next dime, that was, you know,

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ruined by one communist general that everyone loves to lionize

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as a stupid faggot book War as a racket. Now

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it's not a racket. This is this is it's communist

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logic again. All right, we adopt the left. The left's

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framing has been embedded so deeply into our paradigms that

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even though we think ourselves right wingers, we mouth their platitudes.

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War has nothing to do with money making. If money

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is made during war, okay, all right, but that's not

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what drives men to war, has nothing to do with it.

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This is like that Rothschild's are omnipotent type fucking people.

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Same thing, all right, Politicians drag people to war, not bankers.

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And you'll also be surprised at the number one policy

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plank of this fascist takeover, and also of America first,

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which was bankrolled in its entirety by Jack Morgan, by

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Henry Ford, by the DuPont family, and by our good

475
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:09,280
good friends the Rockefellers. The number one issue was keeping

476
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,960
America on the gold standard. And why would a bunch

477
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:18,199
of evil bankers, if they're so evil, be campaigning to

478
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:23,400
keep us on the gold standard. Why would if everything

479
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:28,440
that you believed is true about JP Morgan, about the

480
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,960
Federal Reserve and about all that, you would think that

481
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,679
would be the last thing that they would want, right,

482
00:40:36,679 --> 00:40:39,079
because yeah, you know, Federal Reserve. And then we got

483
00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:43,800
FIOX mommies, and they took the gold away? Who took

484
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:50,880
the gold away? Who did it? FDR? Did the fucking

485
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:57,920
class trader FDR? The entire New Deal these guys viewed

486
00:40:58,079 --> 00:41:03,639
as a slow roll communist takeover and purging of the

487
00:41:03,679 --> 00:41:10,760
power base of the wasp class. Let's look at what

488
00:41:11,079 --> 00:41:16,599
came out of the New Deal government in rapid secession

489
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:24,840
the first term was the sec Act and Glass Steegel.

490
00:41:26,559 --> 00:41:28,400
I'm not going to go into the intricacies of the

491
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,079
banking business and what the banking business was at the time,

492
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,880
but if you know that the lost aristocracy was the

493
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:44,519
American banking industry, then you, like them, saw this as

494
00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:50,119
a direct attack against their class. All that whole war

495
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,960
is a racket, and that whole money trust bullshit was actually,

496
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:04,519
in typical fashion, created in its entirety by one Randolph Hurst.

497
00:42:06,599 --> 00:42:11,079
And who was that lovely gentleman that paid off all

498
00:42:11,159 --> 00:42:18,079
of Winston Churchill's debts? Bernard Baruke? Who was Bernard Baruke

499
00:42:18,159 --> 00:42:25,679
a representative of roth Child and Company. So the guys

500
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:33,840
that put the New Dealers into power roughly at the

501
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,079
exact same time as they were pulling off a communist

502
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:43,039
revolution in Russia. The very first thing that these men

503
00:42:43,079 --> 00:42:45,280
did once they gotten if you can call them that,

504
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:53,360
once they got into power, was attacked the wasp aristocracy.

505
00:42:55,000 --> 00:43:01,039
In fact, the biggest critics of FDR were the Roosevelt family.

506
00:43:03,039 --> 00:43:07,559
Like the level of class trader and family trader that

507
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:18,239
FDR is is barely understood, and like, who are these

508
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:25,639
these men? Right? You and I got into a Twitter

509
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:31,039
argument recently with a I guess a pastor. I guess

510
00:43:31,079 --> 00:43:37,920
he is a preacher of the dispensationallest kind. And you

511
00:43:38,039 --> 00:43:41,199
threw an insult that him that I didn't understand, but

512
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,440
it seemed that it really pissed him off. About the

513
00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:48,360
high church and low church? Are we talking about like

514
00:43:49,199 --> 00:43:52,599
pop up churches like these, you know, kind of like

515
00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:55,159
they look like Walmart super centers, almost.

516
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:01,519
Speaker 1: Empty space next to the circle, k y, that kind

517
00:44:01,559 --> 00:44:01,840
of thing.

518
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, So not those churches, the churches that

519
00:44:07,039 --> 00:44:11,079
are actually built of like granite, you know, and bricks,

520
00:44:11,559 --> 00:44:15,679
The permanent churches, the ones that look like fucking churches

521
00:44:17,159 --> 00:44:18,559
and cathedrals.

522
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 2: Three quarters of those churches across the country were built

523
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:33,639
by John D. Rockefeller because he felt it was his duty.

524
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,840
All of those literally every public library in the fucking

525
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:58,400
country was built by Andrew Carnegie. The reason that the

526
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,199
reason that life sucks the way it does today, and

527
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,119
in the particular way that it does, is because these

528
00:45:06,159 --> 00:45:10,800
men have been erased, right, we know only they're bad.

529
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:15,239
They're demonized, just like Uncle A is demonized, right, and

530
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:21,519
their stories have been erased. So these men had nothing

531
00:45:21,559 --> 00:45:24,400
but history to turn to. Right, There was no existing

532
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:29,960
aristocracy that taught these men how to be noble. I mean,

533
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,519
what was in England that the you know, the eighteen

534
00:45:32,599 --> 00:45:35,519
hundreds was a joke, especially the latter half of the

535
00:45:35,519 --> 00:45:39,800
eighteen hundreds of fucking joke. So these men turned to

536
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:45,679
history books, right, and they modeled themselves and their families

537
00:45:47,079 --> 00:45:53,800
off of the nobility. You know, that made the nobility famous.

538
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:00,239
And the reason why our elites today, right, why are

539
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:06,159
Elon Musks, why are Jeff Bezos's. We'll forget the fucking

540
00:46:06,559 --> 00:46:14,639
Jewish billionaires. I'm not talking about them. The reason they

541
00:46:14,639 --> 00:46:17,400
don't act like these men is because they don't know

542
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:22,159
these men existed outside of just you know, the shibbalits

543
00:46:22,199 --> 00:46:28,760
that you're allowed. All Right, Elon Musk is never going

544
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:33,039
to be like JP Morgan because if you were to

545
00:46:33,079 --> 00:46:35,320
tell him that he's being like JP Morgan, he'd probably

546
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:40,719
be he'd probably think you were insulting him. Right, Like

547
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,480
everything Elon Musk does cool, he's doing great stuff, but

548
00:46:45,559 --> 00:46:49,079
he's also doing business. Oh he's sending them, you know,

549
00:46:49,159 --> 00:46:52,800
people to space. Yeah, but he's also doing that because

550
00:46:52,840 --> 00:47:00,880
he wants people himself to go into space. John D.

551
00:47:01,039 --> 00:47:09,079
Rockefeller didn't build two thousand churches, real churches for any

552
00:47:09,079 --> 00:47:14,679
other reason, then he felt that it was his duty.

553
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:20,920
Andrew Carnegie didn't build every fucking public library in this

554
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:28,079
country because he thought Americans should read good, because he

555
00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:32,840
thought it was his duty that that wealth came with

556
00:47:33,199 --> 00:47:41,920
a debt, that he owed it to someone. The reason

557
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:50,599
that Grand Central Station is probably one of the years

558
00:47:50,599 --> 00:47:54,760
and years and years and years went into the designing

559
00:47:54,920 --> 00:48:00,480
of the acoustics of Grand Central Station. And there places

560
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,199
in Grand Central Station where you can stand in a corner,

561
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,639
grants of the Pete. You've been to Grant Under Station.

562
00:48:06,679 --> 00:48:07,719
It's pretty fucking big.

563
00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 1: Right, many times it's enormous, And yeah, I've done what

564
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:13,039
you're talking about.

565
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you can go into one Pe can go

566
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,880
into one side of Grand Central Station, and I can

567
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:24,079
go into the other side, and I can whisper. I

568
00:48:24,119 --> 00:48:28,599
can stand in a corner and I can whisper. And

569
00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:32,280
if Pete is also standing in the corner, even though

570
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,960
he's on the other side of the fucking place, he

571
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,239
can hear every word I'm saying, like like I'm standing

572
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,280
right next to him, even though there's fucking hundreds of

573
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,880
thousands of people marching through that place. At the same

574
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,840
time making a fuck ton of noise. Right, just the

575
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,159
acoustic properties makes that building one of the most impressive

576
00:48:50,159 --> 00:48:54,239
buildings made in the last two hundred years. And not

577
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,360
to mention Pete. For those of the listeners that haven't

578
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,920
been to Grand Central Station, Brand Central Station beautiful.

579
00:49:03,079 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: It's it's unbelievable. It's you know, it's one of those

580
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:14,280
things that stupid people. Okay, let's say one of those people,

581
00:49:14,519 --> 00:49:18,119
one of those things that uncultured people will be like, oh,

582
00:49:18,159 --> 00:49:21,440
why do you even build something like this? Well, there's

583
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,920
a reason you build something like that. It's the same

584
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,639
reason that you build you know that you build these

585
00:49:26,679 --> 00:49:32,559
gigantic churches. You see these churches in Europe that are

586
00:49:32,599 --> 00:49:35,639
stretch to the sky and they take people's breath away.

587
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,880
Because some people love God and one who and one

588
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:47,320
who glorify him, and others hate you. And that's the difference.

589
00:49:47,639 --> 00:49:51,440
That's the difference between architecture today and architecture in the past.

590
00:49:52,119 --> 00:49:54,559
Speaker 2: The people that build Brand Central Station not only had

591
00:49:54,599 --> 00:49:57,599
their train car, their own train cars, but they had

592
00:49:57,639 --> 00:50:02,840
their own station. Outside of christening the building, they never

593
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:03,880
walked inside.

594
00:50:03,519 --> 00:50:04,039
Speaker 5: Of it again.

595
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,559
Speaker 2: They wanted it that way. They wanted it to be

596
00:50:11,559 --> 00:50:20,599
beautiful because they thought Americans, while commuting all over the country,

597
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:26,599
deserved to be in a place that was beautiful. And

598
00:50:26,679 --> 00:50:34,199
Elon Musk and Mark Andresen. As much good as these

599
00:50:34,199 --> 00:50:37,239
men are doing Peter Thiel's doing, I don't see them

600
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:42,440
doing that. I don't see anybody, any of our mega

601
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:47,159
billionaires doing that, because none of our mega billionaires think

602
00:50:47,159 --> 00:50:51,000
it's their duty. Cool. You get to go to space,

603
00:50:51,039 --> 00:50:57,400
because I want to go to space, all right, so

604
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,840
you get to you know, hitch your ride on. They're

605
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:05,480
already selfish pursuits. They're cool pursuits, don't get me wrong.

606
00:51:07,159 --> 00:51:14,199
But these men didn't operate that way. Every single orphanage

607
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:20,679
in New England was bankworld in its entirety by either

608
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:25,079
a church, which did the Catholic ones, but all of

609
00:51:25,119 --> 00:51:29,320
the Protestant ones were bankworld by one of these men,

610
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:36,599
through whatever that local church was. Pierpont Morgan gave the

611
00:51:36,679 --> 00:51:42,119
equivalent of seventy million dollars a year just to the orphanages.

612
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:51,960
The reason that we have beautiful concert halls is because

613
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:57,639
these men build them, only maybe going inside once a year.

614
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,639
The reason that we have beautif for art museums was

615
00:52:02,679 --> 00:52:09,079
because these men build them. The reason we have beautiful

616
00:52:09,119 --> 00:52:15,719
museums period, Like the Metropolitan Museum is beautiful. It's one

617
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,400
of the most beautiful buildings in New York City. And

618
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,480
these guys built it for free out of their pocket

619
00:52:23,519 --> 00:52:26,199
for you to enjoy, because they felt it was their duty.

620
00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:33,559
And how did a bunch of bankers get involved in

621
00:52:33,599 --> 00:52:39,880
a veteran's movement after World War One? Well, because it

622
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:48,639
was their duty. Every I don't know how to describe

623
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:56,039
the level of shame that a family would have if

624
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:05,880
all of their of age did not go fight in

625
00:53:06,039 --> 00:53:08,599
whatever fight that America was in. And I'm not talking

626
00:53:08,639 --> 00:53:11,079
about like what George W. Bush did going out in

627
00:53:11,079 --> 00:53:16,920
the Air National Guard right, like one third of the

628
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:22,000
class of Harvard and Yale in Princeton got wiped the

629
00:53:22,039 --> 00:53:28,239
fuck out. None of those men, none of those young

630
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,079
men would have had to fight if they didn't want to.

631
00:53:33,519 --> 00:53:36,440
Every single one of them could have called their senator

632
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,719
that their dad put into office and gotten them a

633
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:45,960
commission like FDR did. Right. FDR was a figure just

634
00:53:46,079 --> 00:53:51,840
like George W. Bush doing the Air National Guard routine. Right.

635
00:53:53,119 --> 00:53:59,639
America's Air force in World War One was the aviation

636
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:06,719
love of Yale, Harvard, and Princeton as in like aviation

637
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:12,599
was in its earliest, earliest days and was basically, i

638
00:54:12,639 --> 00:54:14,880
don't know, like not like a fad, but it was

639
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,039
the cool and exciting thing to do, right if you

640
00:54:18,079 --> 00:54:20,760
were a young man. This is the second in command

641
00:54:22,119 --> 00:54:28,800
at JP. Morton and Company. I'm trying to remember his name,

642
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:36,800
but his son became a paraplegic because he was in

643
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,119
the aviation club and they were doing an air show

644
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,199
and the rear of planes at that time usually had

645
00:54:43,199 --> 00:54:44,800
two motors, one in the front, one of the back,

646
00:54:45,519 --> 00:54:49,400
and the motor in the back came loose and struck

647
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,880
this young man in the head and he was paralyzed

648
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,440
from the waist down. He still went on to be

649
00:54:55,559 --> 00:55:02,960
a you know, a fucking chad, right, But if you

650
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,880
were a young man of privilege, you were into racing

651
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:14,559
cars or flying planes. And the air force that America

652
00:55:14,679 --> 00:55:22,320
had in World War One were these men leaving school.

653
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:27,280
They took they you know, took a year off for

654
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,519
two years off, however many years they needed off like

655
00:55:29,559 --> 00:55:34,920
they were in university, right, and temporarily dropped out and

656
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:40,360
donated their planes to the American government and their bodies,

657
00:55:44,199 --> 00:55:50,119
and I think something like twenty percent came home. Maybe.

658
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:56,079
I don't see anybody, any any Senator son going to

659
00:55:56,159 --> 00:56:00,920
fight today. I don't see any of builds his kids.

660
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:06,920
He's got a bunch, he's got five. I don't see

661
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:15,199
any of these people that think that they're aristocrats, they

662
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:25,320
think they are America's aristocracy, right because of money. I

663
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:30,280
don't see any of them sending their kids to fight

664
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,599
in any of America's wars. It's kind of a joke

665
00:56:33,079 --> 00:56:36,960
that we all say, like, how come Dick change these kids? Right?

666
00:56:37,079 --> 00:56:42,960
How come none of these warmongers are sending their sons.

667
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,679
And the reason that America is in as many wars

668
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,840
as it is in is because precisely that this class

669
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:59,159
of people were disenfranchised. They were the casualty of the

670
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:06,960
New Deal government. The New Deal Government was basically an

671
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:16,480
attempt by Jews and by very willing participants and co

672
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:25,559
conspirators in the English financial industry right, and they were

673
00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:38,159
specifically targeted at. Bernard Baruke and Randall Hurst concocted one

674
00:57:38,199 --> 00:57:43,679
of like the first really good psyops called the money

675
00:57:43,719 --> 00:57:47,800
Trust scandal, And it wasn't a scandal at all. It

676
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:56,400
was entirely a media creation. And these great men were

677
00:57:56,519 --> 00:58:01,599
dragged in front of Congress and her rank again and

678
00:58:01,639 --> 00:58:11,880
again and again by two Jewish congressmen who both turned

679
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:16,559
out later to be members of the Communist Party, and

680
00:58:16,639 --> 00:58:19,559
the person bankrolling them and the person providing the air

681
00:58:19,599 --> 00:58:25,199
cover in the press one Bernard Garup, the man who's

682
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:29,440
largely responsible not only for Winston Churchill what happened in

683
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:37,119
Germany in the Second World War, right, but the first

684
00:58:37,159 --> 00:58:46,320
attack on the Anglo American aristocracy, all because we wouldn't

685
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:51,880
let them in the banking industry. A right like John

686
00:58:54,000 --> 00:59:03,159
John Morgan's number one rival in the world was Yaka Rothschild.

687
00:59:08,079 --> 00:59:15,199
He sent Rothschild sent four separate different proxies, one of

688
00:59:15,199 --> 00:59:24,760
them John Belmond, and Pierpont sent them back penniless each

689
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:30,000
and every time. And it wasn't until they saw their

690
00:59:30,039 --> 00:59:35,199
success with the Communist movement or the Bolsheviks did they

691
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:40,119
really start getting politically aggressive. And everybody remembers, well some

692
00:59:40,159 --> 00:59:42,880
of you may remember, not remember, some of you may

693
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:47,760
have come across it in history. Maybe you've talked about this,

694
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:52,800
but the anarchist bombings and the communist bombings in America

695
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:53,719
turn the century.

696
00:59:54,679 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: Are you talking about the haymarket affair and things like that.

697
01:00:00,039 --> 01:00:07,599
Speaker 2: The biggest bombs by a communist of pale settlement descent,

698
01:00:11,119 --> 01:00:15,559
actually all of the bombs in New York. We're all

699
01:00:15,559 --> 01:00:19,840
set off on Wall Street, and all, funny enough, happened

700
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:28,599
to be in front of one bank, Morgan and Company.

701
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,400
So all of the communists, you know that we're going

702
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,079
to bring down the evil capitalists, all just wanted to

703
01:00:34,079 --> 01:00:40,239
bring down one specific capitalist, so much so that after

704
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:45,639
the bombs didn't work. This is when this is during

705
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:51,920
the lead up to the coup attempt. All right, this

706
01:00:52,000 --> 01:01:02,280
is I think twenty nine, twenty eight. But a communist

707
01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:08,760
armed with two pistols shot the gate guard at Jack

708
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:18,400
Morgan's home and shot the butler that answered the door,

709
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:26,119
and rounded up Jack's wife and two daughters, the sons

710
01:01:26,159 --> 01:01:32,880
his sons were away at school, and brought them into

711
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:37,800
a back room he's by the By this time Jack

712
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Morgan figured out what was happening. He was in the

713
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:44,719
study and ran up to the back bedroom where this

714
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:48,639
man was hiding with his two children and his wife,

715
01:01:50,599 --> 01:01:54,639
and he said that he just wanted, you know, to

716
01:01:54,719 --> 01:02:01,719
talk to him, to get base, to get America to

717
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,119
stop being mean to the Soviet Union.

718
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:12,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is nice. This is nineteen twenty, so yeah,

719
01:02:12,199 --> 01:02:14,239
this is all happening in nineteen twenty East side turn

720
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:18,559
of the century, and it had Haymarket was thirty years

721
01:02:18,559 --> 01:02:21,599
before that, so we're around nineteen twenty now. Just for.

722
01:02:24,199 --> 01:02:28,239
Speaker 2: Just everyone knows the JP. You can go to twenty

723
01:02:28,239 --> 01:02:33,800
one Wall Street and see the JP Morgan building and

724
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:40,079
they refuse to fix the building from the bomb. So

725
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:45,119
there is like you can literally see chunks taken out

726
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:50,199
of the building from basically paving stones that were broken

727
01:02:50,239 --> 01:02:54,920
apart and turned into projectiles. It killed five people at

728
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:59,840
JP Morgan. Yeah, this was in the twentiest me Chuck

729
01:03:00,159 --> 01:03:11,599
think he was twenty eight Wall Street bombing, yep, nineteen twenty.

730
01:03:13,519 --> 01:03:15,360
And I was a good guest, Pete, that was a

731
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:20,320
good guest. But yeah, this gentleman said that he just

732
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,519
wanted to talk and that mister Morgan was able to

733
01:03:23,559 --> 01:03:27,360
make the American government do whatever he wanted, so he

734
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:33,800
was going to basically do diplomacy by hostage, and Jack

735
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:40,360
rushed him, beat the man into a coma while taking

736
01:03:41,239 --> 01:03:45,400
two revolver shots in one into the stomach and one

737
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:49,280
into the inside of the thigh almost died. But the

738
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,159
good thing about being rich is you have a doctor

739
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:58,000
that usually either lives in your property or or close by.

740
01:03:59,239 --> 01:04:03,119
Speaker 1: And then this happened in nineteen fifteen, July third. Yes,

741
01:04:03,199 --> 01:04:04,400
I'm looking that up right now.

742
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:12,199
Speaker 2: Yes, And the gentleman that did it, I believe correctly

743
01:04:12,199 --> 01:04:17,599
if I'm wrong, was a crypto.

744
01:04:20,559 --> 01:04:23,159
Speaker 1: His name was Eric Munter.

745
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he was under three different names. Yeah, teaching

746
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:31,199
at Harvard as a as a professor for a while.

747
01:04:32,679 --> 01:04:39,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, graduated University of Chicago, University of Kansas, began teaching

748
01:04:39,079 --> 01:04:42,199
as an instructor at Harvard University, where he was a

749
01:04:42,239 --> 01:04:47,840
doctoral student. Yeah, yeah, now it was. He was a

750
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:54,199
quote unquote German saboteur who went under the name Frank Holt.

751
01:04:55,119 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 6: Hello, my fellow boys. You know he was a jack.

752
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:07,159
Was a big dude, all right, he was. He was

753
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:08,199
six two.

754
01:05:08,679 --> 01:05:13,559
Speaker 2: Actually, both Morgan's were six three and six two, all right,

755
01:05:13,559 --> 01:05:19,960
so they were not small dudes. But yeah, so only

756
01:05:21,199 --> 01:05:28,039
which is funny enough, because you had what's his name?

757
01:05:28,159 --> 01:05:32,039
How am I gonna? I can't believe I'm blanking. He

758
01:05:32,159 --> 01:05:34,960
was the guy that funded a majority of the Communist

759
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,840
the Bolshek Revolution. How am I blanking in his name?

760
01:05:38,559 --> 01:05:42,199
Jacob Shift, Jacob Shift, there you go, Shift and Company.

761
01:05:43,639 --> 01:05:45,280
Jacob Shift lived right next door.

762
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:51,039
Speaker 1: Oh it's actually it's actually Shift, just like the Shift

763
01:05:51,039 --> 01:05:53,360
that we the perma bear shift that we have to

764
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:54,119
deal with today.

765
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:56,159
Speaker 2: I wonder if they're related.

766
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,239
Speaker 1: I'll look that up real quick. Keep going.

767
01:06:01,559 --> 01:06:04,519
Speaker 2: That would be very very interesting to know. And for

768
01:06:04,559 --> 01:06:06,719
those of you who don't know what we were talking about,

769
01:06:07,519 --> 01:06:11,159
the Communist Revolution was funded in its entirety by two

770
01:06:11,199 --> 01:06:22,840
people yaka broth Child and mister Jacob Shift and and

771
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:27,079
wes you that that educated me on this. But a

772
01:06:27,159 --> 01:06:30,800
majority of the Bolsheviks we're actually from like Brooklyn.

773
01:06:33,159 --> 01:06:39,159
Speaker 1: Well, when when Trotsky left New York he got on

774
01:06:39,239 --> 01:06:41,960
a boat and I think he had thirty they had

775
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,840
thirty men with him. Someone in fact checked me on that.

776
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:49,519
I'm sure somebody will. They always do. And they were.

777
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,679
They all made it to Russia. They and they were

778
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,599
all yes of a certain tribe.

779
01:06:57,079 --> 01:07:01,239
Speaker 2: That's really funny. And Trotsky got curric of wrong. But

780
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:06,440
Trotsky got stopped in Canada by a Canadian.

781
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:14,039
Speaker 1: Pe yep and because of you know who controlled the

782
01:07:14,079 --> 01:07:17,119
crown at the time, he was released and let go.

783
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:21,599
Speaker 2: Yep with one hundred thousand dollars. He was apprehended with

784
01:07:21,639 --> 01:07:25,320
a hundred thousand dollars in cash, YEP.

785
01:07:25,559 --> 01:07:27,679
Speaker 1: I also think he had I think he had I

786
01:07:27,679 --> 01:07:28,920
think he had diamonds too.

787
01:07:29,679 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 2: Oh what is what was that? Nineteen ten? So what

788
01:07:32,559 --> 01:07:33,679
is that one hundred thousand?

789
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's rather interesting when you start really getting

790
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:42,199
into it.

791
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, So basically he had the equivalent of three and

792
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:50,519
a half million dollars on his person. And the Bolsheviks

793
01:07:50,679 --> 01:07:55,760
didn't come to power through revolutionary prowess. They're actually incredibly disorganized,

794
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:59,360
a bunch of fucking retards. But with that one hundred

795
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:04,280
thousand dollars, as they bought every single newspaper in Russia

796
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:10,960
or in Moscow, and that's really where any communist cloud

797
01:08:11,039 --> 01:08:11,800
came from.

798
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:17,399
Speaker 1: And so when oh, by the way, just to just

799
01:08:17,399 --> 01:08:21,359
to clear this up, Peter Schiff is not related to

800
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:27,319
Jacob Shift. Oh Jacob. Jacob Shift's dad. Peter Shift's dad

801
01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:32,039
Irwin Shift. Irwin Shift, who was a tax protester who

802
01:08:32,079 --> 01:08:37,000
died in prison in two thousand and fifteen. His parents

803
01:08:37,039 --> 01:08:42,880
emigrated here from Poland around nineteen thirty.

804
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 2: So okay, oh thanks, I'm so glad they joined us.

805
01:08:50,239 --> 01:08:56,159
I'm so glad they came to came to America. That's funny.

806
01:08:56,399 --> 01:09:05,840
So in Trotsky's memoirs he talks about his exile from

807
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:13,319
Russia the first time, right, So Lennon and Trotsky were

808
01:09:13,359 --> 01:09:17,439
both rounded up by the O Stya is that how

809
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:18,560
I'm saying? Am I saying? Quickly?

810
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 1: I think that's how I was pronounced. I'm terrible, and

811
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:26,279
I think anyone who's listened to my readings so I'm

812
01:09:26,399 --> 01:09:28,640
terrible at pronouncing foreign words.

813
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 2: Same same. So they got rounded up and thrown out

814
01:09:35,039 --> 01:09:43,479
of Russia once and then they were basically air dropped

815
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,239
in a second time, which is the time that Pete

816
01:09:45,279 --> 01:09:48,720
and I are talking about. But there is a space

817
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:52,159
of about eight years in between those two, all right,

818
01:09:53,279 --> 01:09:56,760
and where these guys they chose to hang out in

819
01:09:57,159 --> 01:10:01,399
Germany briefly, got booted out of Germany, and then they

820
01:10:01,399 --> 01:10:03,600
went to Switzerland for a little bit, got booted out

821
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:09,520
of Switzerland, and after that they kind of go dark

822
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:15,199
for like five years. And then Trotsky's memoirs, I think

823
01:10:15,199 --> 01:10:21,680
he's also in Lenin's too. But Lenin spent those five

824
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:26,399
years in a villa in the south of France. You

825
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:27,640
know it was Villa that was.

826
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:31,520
Speaker 1: Please tell everyone it was.

827
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:39,640
Speaker 2: The Lord Yak of Rothchilds. And Trotsky in his memoirs

828
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:47,279
talks about his time in Newport, Rhode Island, staying at

829
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:54,520
what he called the Magician's house, and the magician would

830
01:10:55,640 --> 01:11:00,039
take him around him and his daughters in for I

831
01:11:00,039 --> 01:11:03,319
don't know if you a rise, all over the city,

832
01:11:03,399 --> 01:11:07,520
all over you know, prominence, and then also to the

833
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:15,760
magician's house in Long Island and the magician would go,

834
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:19,039
you know, into the city. And Trotsky says, he's like

835
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:23,319
the magician controlled all the wheels of finance and capital,

836
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:26,760
and you know, with his with a move of his hand,

837
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,720
all the wheels of industry would move one way, and

838
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,520
with another wheel of his hand or another waved his hand,

839
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:35,640
all the wheels of capital would move the other way,

840
01:11:36,199 --> 01:11:39,640
you know, And basically described this man as like a

841
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:43,479
magician slash chauffeur that would drive him and his daughters

842
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:52,079
around places. That man was Jacob Shift. So the reason

843
01:11:52,319 --> 01:11:59,920
nobody could find these communist stumbags is because arguably the

844
01:12:00,159 --> 01:12:03,600
you know, three of the top five were just men

845
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:07,039
on the planet that were not royalty of some sight,

846
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:15,359
of some respects. We're hiding them to use later as

847
01:12:15,399 --> 01:12:21,319
a weapon, right, just like the Just like the New

848
01:12:21,359 --> 01:12:27,840
Dealers were used as a weapon against a similar entrenched

849
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:35,439
aristocracy that they wanted removed. And Roosevelt was really a compromise,

850
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:43,359
all right, Like I said, including his own family. Nobody

851
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:47,920
suspected what FDR would become, what he would do. Like

852
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:55,239
the Roosevelt family, they weren't in banking that much. But

853
01:12:56,319 --> 01:12:58,640
if you go back and look at the newspapers of

854
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:05,119
the time, hold on, cat, what do you want? Showed him?

855
01:13:05,159 --> 01:13:05,880
Whose boss?

856
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:11,359
Speaker 1: Your cat makes a lot of appearances on podcasts.

857
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:13,199
Speaker 2: I completely forgot where we were.

858
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:22,239
Speaker 1: Trotsky three three men uh Trotsky was put They were

859
01:13:22,239 --> 01:13:25,239
basically put on a shelf to be used later, Yeah.

860
01:13:25,079 --> 01:13:28,520
Speaker 2: As weapons, just like the Progressives were used as we

861
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,960
were not the Progressives. The New Dealers were used as

862
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:35,000
weapons against an entrenched arisocracy. If you look like all

863
01:13:35,119 --> 01:13:38,720
the all of the all the legislation that came out

864
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:42,840
of the New Deals, the New Dealers first terms, it

865
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:49,520
is an attack like there's it's very hard to see

866
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,199
it any other way. And if you look at who

867
01:13:52,279 --> 01:13:56,319
was doing it, all right, because he needed help in

868
01:13:56,319 --> 01:14:01,399
in Congress, it was the same Saturday folks that were

869
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:05,680
dragging Jack and his dad before his dad passed in

870
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:09,039
front of Congress for hearing after hearing about the fake

871
01:14:09,119 --> 01:14:17,119
money trust scandal. It was Randolph Hurst. And actually here,

872
01:14:17,279 --> 01:14:22,439
let me let me find out the commission. I'll get

873
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,680
it to you after the show. What the congressman's name was.

874
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:28,079
It was two of them that were in the committee. Oh,

875
01:14:28,239 --> 01:14:34,520
and yes, I remember it was a young Lewis Brandeis.

876
01:14:36,279 --> 01:14:43,079
Speaker 1: Louis and I huh, that's huh? What do what church?

877
01:14:43,119 --> 01:14:43,600
He wants to.

878
01:14:45,119 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 2: Something of Satan? I think Lewis Brandeis would communicate with FDR.

879
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:57,239
And the only place that I've really found this mentioned

880
01:14:57,359 --> 01:15:00,800
is both in the Dearborn Independent and in the Morgan

881
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:07,640
Library and in some of the some of the he's

882
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:17,359
called it the memoirs or biographies of the John Foster Dulls,

883
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:23,840
and shit, I won't anyways, this was kind of like

884
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:33,800
an open secret that Lewis Brandeis was giving basically marching

885
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:41,520
orders through messenger his daughter, who all right, let me

886
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:48,319
see him pull it up Lewis brand Ice, Wow, how

887
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:52,119
is like? Al is their daughter? Like? Nowhere in here?

888
01:15:53,119 --> 01:15:55,199
Speaker 1: Susan and Susan or Elizabeth.

889
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,119
Speaker 2: I believe it was Susan. Can you see who what

890
01:15:59,159 --> 01:15:59,800
they're married to?

891
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:03,239
Speaker 1: I will check right now.

892
01:16:05,039 --> 01:16:07,079
Speaker 2: One of them is going to be married to a

893
01:16:07,199 --> 01:16:08,640
very important new dealer.

894
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 1: Susan Brandeis Gilbert. Oh wait a minute, all that Susan

895
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:24,000
Brandee Jacob Gilbert Elizabeth Brandeis Joseph Gilbert Jacob Jacob H.

896
01:16:24,199 --> 01:16:32,079
Speaker 2: Gilbert, American lawyer who served six terms as a US

897
01:16:32,119 --> 01:16:41,279
Senator or sorry, a US House of Representative member, Jacob H. Gilbert. Yay,

898
01:16:41,319 --> 01:16:46,479
this guy served six terms in Congress. I said he

899
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:52,960
was a big deal in the New dealers, and William

900
01:16:53,000 --> 01:17:01,479
Brandeis scrolled that over here. In eighteen ninety, Brandeis began

901
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:06,680
to question his views on American industrialism. He became aware

902
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:10,119
of the growing number of giant companies which were capable

903
01:17:10,119 --> 01:17:13,840
of dominating whole industries, and he began to lose faith

904
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:22,079
in the whole American capitalist economic system and its ability

905
01:17:22,159 --> 01:17:25,039
to regulate and it's sorry and its need to be

906
01:17:25,119 --> 01:17:29,760
regulated for the public's welfare. As a result, he denounced

907
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:34,760
cutthroat competition and worried about monopolies. He also became concerned

908
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:39,159
about the plight of workers and was very sympathetic to

909
01:17:39,199 --> 01:17:44,840
the labor movement. Well really crusader for justice. Oh, I

910
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:49,119
have to look at that later. His earlier battles had

911
01:17:49,159 --> 01:17:55,039
convinced him that concentrated economic power could have a negative

912
01:17:55,039 --> 01:18:05,000
effect on a free society. Wow. Yeah, So Brandice was

913
01:18:05,039 --> 01:18:10,520
then in the Supreme Court. They had four or five yeah,

914
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:14,720
the Money Trust. They had four or five guys in

915
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:19,960
prominent positions in the Congress. And I can't remember who

916
01:18:20,039 --> 01:18:25,039
the senators were, but if you got the President, you

917
01:18:25,119 --> 01:18:28,600
got the Supreme Court, and you got the Senate. Brandeis

918
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:32,760
was often referred to by the people as the people's lawyer.

919
01:18:33,319 --> 01:18:37,000
That's funny because all of the references for that are

920
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:42,920
from press publications owned by one mister Hurst.

921
01:18:44,239 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 1: Oh okay. It was called the Puho Committee Pujoujo committee, yep,

922
01:18:50,399 --> 01:18:55,920
named after ours and Pauline Poujo for Louisiana. Oh. Why

923
01:18:55,920 --> 01:19:03,439
does this guy's name always come up? Samuel Intermyer? Yeah

924
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:08,760
you know what else? Samuel inter Myers responsible for the

925
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:09,880
Schofield Bible.

926
01:19:11,359 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 2: No, keep the fuck attitude?

927
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:20,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes, Then there was Hubert D. Stevens of Mississippi.

928
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:27,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you just go if you just google Samuel Untermeyer,

929
01:19:27,199 --> 01:19:29,880
pull up his Wikipedia page. There is a whole bunch

930
01:19:30,199 --> 01:19:40,000
of political caricatures of mister J. P. Morgan. Yep, he

931
01:19:40,079 --> 01:19:42,560
went after every single wow.

932
01:19:43,359 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 1: Oh and in case anybody was wondering what the early

933
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:52,479
life is on mister Untermeyer, it's what you think, yep.

934
01:19:54,039 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 2: And what he never talks about is who his law

935
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:06,520
firm's clients were. He was later after World War One,

936
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:11,119
he became a top advisor. Why is a lawyer and

937
01:20:11,199 --> 01:20:17,600
advisor to the Treasury Department. He's responsible for the income tax.

938
01:20:19,399 --> 01:20:20,399
It's very interesting.

939
01:20:22,039 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 1: Corporate lawyer, advocate of stock market regulation, government ownership of railroads,

940
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:33,520
various legal legal reforms. And he was an exponent of

941
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:37,319
the progressive era. He became an advocate of stock market regulations,

942
01:20:37,359 --> 01:20:41,279
government ownership of railroads, and various legal reforms. He was

943
01:20:41,319 --> 01:20:44,399
also the first attorney to own a million dollars, to

944
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:46,840
earn a million dollars on a single case.

945
01:20:49,279 --> 01:20:55,319
Speaker 2: I bet he was. Untermeyer also identified early as a

946
01:20:55,399 --> 01:21:00,720
Zionist and served as president of the Karen Hassad the

947
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:04,319
agency which the movement was then and is still conducted

948
01:21:04,359 --> 01:21:07,560
in America. How have I not heard about this? K

949
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,760
R E n h A Y E s O D

950
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:16,560
the Agent. In nineteen thirty three, he founded the non

951
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:24,920
Sectarian Anti Zion or Anti Nazi League in nineteen thirty three. Oh,

952
01:21:25,159 --> 01:21:31,399
I wonder what the The non Sectarian Anti Nazi League

953
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:38,319
changed its mission to directly investigate right wing propaganda groups.

954
01:21:39,039 --> 01:21:45,079
Amongst them were the Christian Front of Father Coughlin. Non

955
01:21:45,199 --> 01:21:51,560
Sectarian Anti Nazi League its mission was to directly investigate

956
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,680
right wing propaganda groups. Among them were the Christian Front

957
01:21:54,680 --> 01:22:00,199
of Father Coughlin, the Christian Mobilizers of Joseph McWilliam. I'm

958
01:22:00,199 --> 01:22:03,399
just going to check that out, the America First Party,

959
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:10,319
and this group, this Anti Nazi League also began to

960
01:22:10,359 --> 01:22:12,079
support the civil rights movement.

961
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:15,239
Speaker 1: We are so shocked.

962
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. And it filed its first lawsuit in nineteen forty

963
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:28,279
five against Columbia University to have its tax exempt status

964
01:22:28,319 --> 01:22:30,520
revoked for discriminating against who.

965
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 1: Jews, which was really interesting because that's where his son

966
01:22:36,039 --> 01:22:39,159
graduated from.

967
01:22:39,359 --> 01:22:45,199
Speaker 2: I wouldn't doubt it. It was also instrumental in shutting

968
01:22:45,239 --> 01:22:51,600
down kit based groups in Atlanta, Georgia, by hiring Stetson

969
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:58,920
Kennedy William Stetson Kennedy to infiltrate these groups. The League

970
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:04,039
continued its invest mitigation to expose activities throughout the nineteen fifties,

971
01:23:04,119 --> 01:23:07,720
providing the FBI with intelligence about such right wing neo

972
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:14,479
Nazi groups as National Resistance Party. Oh, wasn't that the party.

973
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:21,239
Speaker 1: That's National Renaissance Party, Sorry, National Renaissance Party, Yeah, yeah,

974
01:23:21,359 --> 01:23:22,760
Kurt Medig Murdick.

975
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:30,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also isn't it the one that what's his name,

976
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:32,279
the painter.

977
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 1: Rockwell, George Lincoln Rockwell. I'm not sure that he had

978
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:39,399
I'm not sure he had any things to do with this.

979
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:43,279
I will look though. Yep. Well, it says the party

980
01:23:43,319 --> 01:23:47,840
also endorsed standard racist ideas. As a it maintained ties

981
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:52,239
with other groups, including George Lincoln Rockwell's American Nazi Party.

982
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

983
01:23:53,880 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 7: It turns out this this organization, the non secular, the

984
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:04,640
non sectarian Anti Zionist League, when it shut down was right.

985
01:24:06,119 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 2: It seems to not get shut down at all, but

986
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,319
folded into the ADL. I guess that's where they kept

987
01:24:11,359 --> 01:24:15,760
their really tight relationship with the FBI. Wow, we're doing

988
01:24:16,159 --> 01:24:16,960
research live.

989
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 1: Listen to this one. The National Renaissance, which, unlike its

990
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:25,520
political activities in New York, was widely influential in right

991
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:29,239
wing circles. In the early nineteen fifties, h Keith Thompson

992
01:24:29,279 --> 01:24:33,520
and Frederick Weiss subsidized a larger than usual print run

993
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:37,000
of an issue of the magazine containing an essay by

994
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:42,119
Francis Parker Yaki entitled what is behind the Hanging of

995
01:24:42,159 --> 01:24:45,680
the Eleven Jews in Prague? On the Prague show trials

996
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:48,880
of Rudolph Slansky and ten other Jewish members of the

997
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:54,520
Communist Party of Czechoslovakia, which Yaki had attended. Eustace Mullins,

998
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:59,399
who Martin A. Lee called the NRPS self proclaimed expert

999
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:03,199
on the us A Reserve, published his notorious article Adolf

1000
01:25:03,279 --> 01:25:06,960
Hitler and Appreciation in the journal as well. They were

1001
01:25:07,119 --> 01:25:12,760
investigated by Hugh Act for possible prosecution under the Smith Act,

1002
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:16,520
and no additional action was taken.

1003
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:20,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess that's what happens when communists try and

1004
01:25:20,279 --> 01:25:24,560
bring something to fucking Joseph McCarthy probably not going to

1005
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:35,239
look into it. God. Yeah, the uh Lewis dmabits, the

1006
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:47,760
uh the gentleman that that married Brandie's daughters. Yeah, it

1007
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:56,680
turns out he started then started the conservative Judaism movement.

1008
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 1: Oh well, that I mean that that's just to teach

1009
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:05,439
us good Judeo Judeo Christian values.

1010
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 2: Right, yep. Wow, that's so fucking funny all the time.

1011
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:16,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's amazing once you started digging deep

1012
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:19,479
into into this, how all of it's connected.

1013
01:26:22,239 --> 01:26:26,600
Speaker 2: Yep. Wow. So the the wife or sorry, the husband

1014
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:33,000
of Lewis Brandeis, I'm sorry, the husband of the daughter

1015
01:26:33,159 --> 01:26:37,800
of Lewis Brandeis. The guy who was a courier for

1016
01:26:38,039 --> 01:26:48,760
mister Brandeis into the Roosevelt administration, then goes and gets

1017
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:53,279
extremely active in conservative politics afterwards.

1018
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:59,119
Speaker 1: I'm sure that that was I'm sure it was. I'm

1019
01:26:59,119 --> 01:27:02,920
sure he was one into the building.

1020
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:06,560
Speaker 2: This is unreal. I didn't even I didn't even know

1021
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:10,479
that part, all right. Like Lewis Brandeis made his career

1022
01:27:12,319 --> 01:27:20,520
off of going after John Pierpont Morgan and the Morgan

1023
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:32,800
family and the Rockefeller family and the DuPont family. And

1024
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:41,119
it seems that his progeny was, you know, after they

1025
01:27:41,199 --> 01:27:47,359
crushed the real American right wing, they they inserted themselves

1026
01:27:47,399 --> 01:27:50,479
into conservative politics at the same time as they're driving

1027
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:51,520
left wing politics.

1028
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:58,560
Speaker 8: It's almost like they are they're doing something. Yeah, you

1029
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:03,479
could do a whole show on on just Lewis Brandeis.

1030
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 9: Oh one, Yeah, Dev's versus Understance. Wow, this guy is

1031
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:17,079
unreal doing it.

1032
01:28:17,359 --> 01:28:20,199
Speaker 1: It's amazing to watch. Uh. I guess it's amazing to

1033
01:28:20,239 --> 01:28:25,920
watch us do research in real time. Huh.

1034
01:28:26,079 --> 01:28:28,600
Speaker 2: His final years of his career, like the rest of

1035
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:36,760
the court, he initially amounted them.

1036
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 1: Was Tomarrow was responsible for like getting like Moody Moody

1037
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:42,720
Bible College to pushing that Moody Bible College would take

1038
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:49,960
and start using the the Schofield study bubble. And you

1039
01:28:50,079 --> 01:28:53,680
have to wonder, why would why would you be so

1040
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:56,439
interested in that? I wonder, m.

1041
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:01,600
Speaker 2: And the entire time is this dud as passing messages

1042
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:08,159
to FDR. He is openly saying that he's against the

1043
01:29:08,239 --> 01:29:16,960
New Dealers. Wasn't Lewis Brandeis wasn't yet Lewis Brandeis was

1044
01:29:17,039 --> 01:29:23,600
the guy right that leaned on FDR to get who

1045
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:26,000
is that crazy secretary of State that he put in

1046
01:29:26,039 --> 01:29:28,560
there that wanted to basically genocide all the Germans.

1047
01:29:29,279 --> 01:29:34,600
Speaker 1: Oh Morgan, Henry Morgan Morgenthal, Yep.

1048
01:29:35,399 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 2: Wow, Henry Morgenthal came out of the same fucking law firm.

1049
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:43,880
I mean wow, all at the same time they kill

1050
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:47,960
I mean, I got a credit where credit is due

1051
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:55,800
is impressive. Right, They're taking over the left. They're completely

1052
01:29:55,800 --> 01:30:02,239
disenfranchising and chaped and like a like a face hugger

1053
01:30:03,119 --> 01:30:06,319
taking over the American right at the same time as

1054
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:08,960
I bet your father Coughlin scared the shit out of them.

1055
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 1: Oh you want to hear something even something that I'm

1056
01:30:13,039 --> 01:30:18,239
finding here on the Pulah Show committee. Okay, So the

1057
01:30:18,359 --> 01:30:24,199
resolution that was picked up by Congressman Puugo was introduced

1058
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:28,920
for a probe of Wall Street power by Charles Lindbergh

1059
01:30:29,079 --> 01:30:34,039
sor can you imagine that he probably did this thinking

1060
01:30:34,359 --> 01:30:36,760
there might be a problem here, we need to we

1061
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:42,680
need to investigate it. Then all of these people take it,

1062
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:48,920
run with his idea and just take it to destroy

1063
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:53,399
you know, you know these men who are trying to

1064
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:58,840
keep America a certain way. And do you think maybe

1065
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:01,159
he learned by that and he caught his son maybe,

1066
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:03,479
or maybe his son learned something by that.

1067
01:31:05,319 --> 01:31:10,479
Speaker 2: I think so. And funny enough, it was actually not

1068
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:14,199
a lot of people know this, but I heard Thomas

1069
01:31:14,279 --> 01:31:22,199
say at once on your show that that the bankers

1070
01:31:22,199 --> 01:31:25,600
and industrialists they didn't actually want war they didn't like,

1071
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:29,680
go start wars for money, right, And there's a lot

1072
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:34,920
of truth to that because in the Morgan archives, right,

1073
01:31:35,279 --> 01:31:38,680
they basically communicated a lot of bankers did this, like

1074
01:31:39,119 --> 01:31:42,039
Rothchild had their own secret code. Everybody had their own

1075
01:31:42,239 --> 01:31:46,680
secret code. So only until very recently did a lot

1076
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:50,119
of these banks open up their archives. Right. They were

1077
01:31:50,159 --> 01:31:56,199
obsessive about saving correspondents. But in the archives, you're going

1078
01:31:56,279 --> 01:32:10,119
me pull it up in news too. Yeah. Wow. So

1079
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:16,119
in the run up to World War One, William Randolph

1080
01:32:16,199 --> 01:32:23,359
Hearst and his best at friends in the papers right

1081
01:32:23,399 --> 01:32:26,279
after they got in the run up to World War One,

1082
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:29,439
it was when all this money trust stuff started and

1083
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:32,840
the Pugio Committee started, right, basically kind of made it

1084
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:40,000
toxic to be associated with kind of bost Wall Street politically.

1085
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:45,119
But during World War One, right when it initially started,

1086
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:49,640
it was actually Morgan and Company that tried to stop

1087
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:55,319
World War One by clandestinely, by clandestinely trying to stop

1088
01:32:55,359 --> 01:33:00,279
the fighting between Turkey and the Baltic States in nineteen twelve, right,

1089
01:33:00,399 --> 01:33:04,199
they the only the only really tool he had was

1090
01:33:04,199 --> 01:33:07,239
to offer large loans to both sides in exchange to

1091
01:33:07,359 --> 01:33:12,159
agree to US mediation. To kind of catch the conflict

1092
01:33:12,159 --> 01:33:16,119
when it was in its early stages, because war is

1093
01:33:16,239 --> 01:33:23,640
terrible to banking, right, Like, what banking wants is stability, right,

1094
01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:29,399
Banking wants everything to continue as you know it is going,

1095
01:33:31,119 --> 01:33:34,720
especially when you're banking at that level when you're making

1096
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:40,119
huge loans to like German industry, British industry. Like if

1097
01:33:40,159 --> 01:33:42,520
you were a big company like that's been in business

1098
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:46,520
as long as Krupp has right, that has got a

1099
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:49,840
whole bunch of government contracts and gate great government relationships.

1100
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:51,760
The same as like a lot of the British arms

1101
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:55,760
companies or the British shipping companies. Those are very safe

1102
01:33:55,800 --> 01:34:00,000
companies to to, you know, to give loans to those countries,

1103
01:34:00,119 --> 01:34:01,720
those companies are gonna be able to pay them off.

1104
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:06,640
So the idea of one nation full of companies that

1105
01:34:07,279 --> 01:34:10,439
you have that you lent money to trying to blow

1106
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:14,560
up another country full of companies that you lent money to, Like,

1107
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:23,079
how does this benefit bankers? Like, yes, maybe they made

1108
01:34:23,119 --> 01:34:27,880
some money in like the U in investing in the

1109
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:33,039
US companies that were making arms and making other things.

1110
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:40,640
But these men already own those fucking companies anyways, so

1111
01:34:42,279 --> 01:34:46,319
they this clandestine diplomacy was happening out of the same

1112
01:34:47,279 --> 01:34:51,159
office in Paris, Morgan and Hedges that will later come

1113
01:34:51,199 --> 01:34:56,319
back to and the Businessman's Blot, right, So the it

1114
01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:59,720
was run by the head of Morgan, the head Partner

1115
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:03,600
and more and Hodges and the US ambassador to France,

1116
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:09,359
Myron Herrick. And Myron got both of these nations to

1117
01:35:09,399 --> 01:35:12,199
sit down or both of their ambassadors to sit down,

1118
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:19,159
while the Morgan and Hodges partner with a letter from Pierpont.

1119
01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:25,520
It was like, hey, here's a gigantic loan that you

1120
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:28,840
guys don't really have to pay off if you both,

1121
01:35:29,199 --> 01:35:34,760
you know, just agree to US mediation. And unfortunately they

1122
01:35:35,319 --> 01:35:40,119
didn't bite. But there's no reason for that to even

1123
01:35:40,159 --> 01:35:48,199
have happened. If JP Morgan wanted fucking World War One,

1124
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:53,520
it doesn't make any sense. Yeah. Anyways, obviously they signed

1125
01:35:55,079 --> 01:35:57,720
the Brits once the warded, but they were kind of

1126
01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:02,279
forced to choose. At that point they had way more

1127
01:36:02,319 --> 01:36:03,960
loans to England than they did to Germany.

1128
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:07,359
Speaker 1: I think this is right about the time we should

1129
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:11,119
probably wrap up and prepare for part two.

1130
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, then we'll get into the actual committee because luckily enough,

1131
01:36:19,159 --> 01:36:25,760
the Senate did a investigatory committee into this attempted fascist coup,

1132
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:29,600
so it leaves us with a lot of first hand evidence.

1133
01:36:30,239 --> 01:36:37,239
So lucky us. It's the McCormac Committee mc co r

1134
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:40,479
M A c K committee for any of you listeners

1135
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:43,560
at home that want to start digging into this and

1136
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:47,960
have your fucking minds blown before p and I you know,

1137
01:36:48,119 --> 01:36:49,439
blowed them in the next episode.

1138
01:36:50,079 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, the looking it up right now and trying to

1139
01:36:54,520 --> 01:37:00,159
find trying to find a page on it. But the

1140
01:37:00,279 --> 01:37:05,680
Cormac Committee.

1141
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:08,760
Speaker 8: Yep, the Cormack Dickstein Committity.

1142
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 2: All right, cool, yep, the dick Stein Committee. I wonder

1143
01:37:15,119 --> 01:37:17,840
let me let me to early life. I'm mister dick Stein.

1144
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's not even I'm sure you don't even

1145
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:22,239
have to do that.

1146
01:37:24,239 --> 01:37:30,039
Speaker 2: No, out of curiosity, I'm going to Wow. Yeah, I

1147
01:37:30,399 --> 01:37:34,960
Democratic congressman. He played a key role in establishing the

1148
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:42,359
committee that became the House Committee, which used which he

1149
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:51,119
used to attack fascists and Nazi sympathizers. Wow. That's nice.

1150
01:37:51,279 --> 01:37:55,680
That's nice of him him and Alan Weinstein. That's great.

1151
01:37:58,079 --> 01:38:01,239
Speaker 1: All right, Well that'll be we can we put that

1152
01:38:01,279 --> 01:38:03,760
out there as a as a teaser for next time.

1153
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:10,119
All right, well, I'll I'll make sure to link your

1154
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:14,039
your Twitter in the in the notes and everything.

1155
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:15,319
Speaker 5: He was.

1156
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:21,680
Speaker 2: A He was born to a Jewish family of five

1157
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:26,359
children from Russia. His dad was Rabbi Israel.

1158
01:38:26,079 --> 01:38:30,840
Speaker 1: Dixtie settled on the Lower East Side public and private

1159
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:36,600
schools City College of New York. Yeah, the there was

1160
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:39,279
a time when that was one of the only colleges

1161
01:38:39,359 --> 01:38:43,319
that Jews could get into in New York. So it

1162
01:38:43,399 --> 01:38:49,560
was CCN. Why yeah, c CN why. The joke used

1163
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:52,720
to be that it was circumcised Citizens of New York.

1164
01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:57,720
That's what they call the college.

1165
01:38:59,159 --> 01:39:05,319
Speaker 10: Oh man, some better time, but yeah, all right, I think, uh,

1166
01:39:05,399 --> 01:39:07,479
I think this time we will have a lot of fun,

1167
01:39:08,279 --> 01:39:13,079
you know, talking about that evil, evil Nazie coup that

1168
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:18,319
mister Dickstein luckily put a stop to, Thank goodness.

1169
01:39:18,159 --> 01:39:24,439
Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, John, And mister McCormack is he was

1170
01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:28,640
born in Boston, but his dad was a Canadian mhm

1171
01:39:30,319 --> 01:39:34,760
hm yeah, yeah, really loves to be very mick though.

1172
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:38,319
They looks like the Irish. The Irish runs deep in

1173
01:39:38,359 --> 01:39:38,960
that family.

1174
01:39:39,039 --> 01:39:43,800
Speaker 2: So I have to I have to be honest. I

1175
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:48,359
can't just blame and blame the Hughes for all this.

1176
01:39:50,039 --> 01:39:52,680
It was the It was the Irish that were kind

1177
01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:56,680
of like their men on the ground. You know, the

1178
01:39:56,720 --> 01:40:00,920
problem with organizing all of the workers the world. They

1179
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:04,319
don't mean like, you know, cubicle workers. They meant like,

1180
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:09,319
you know, manual labor workers. Problem with you know, this

1181
01:40:09,399 --> 01:40:14,000
certain group of people trying to organize labor when they

1182
01:40:14,039 --> 01:40:17,640
themselves are allergic to labor, like you know, fatally allergic

1183
01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:21,760
to labor, and it's very difficult. You need help. And

1184
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:25,399
the irishmen were more than happy to be the uh

1185
01:40:26,039 --> 01:40:29,159
be the bridge into the labor that these certain people

1186
01:40:29,199 --> 01:40:32,880
were too good to do themselves. So I can't leave

1187
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:36,720
the Irish out of it, you fucking mix or just

1188
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:38,800
as guilty as they are.

1189
01:40:40,319 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 11: Guilty immigrants. You're all going back. I guess I'm going

1190
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:52,159
back to Where am I going? Where the hell am

1191
01:40:52,159 --> 01:40:52,479
I going?

1192
01:40:55,039 --> 01:40:59,239
Speaker 12: All right, then this is all those people that are like, oh,

1193
01:40:59,279 --> 01:41:03,640
we'll just leave you, yeah, like just go somewhere else,

1194
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:05,079
like give up on America.

1195
01:41:06,079 --> 01:41:09,000
Speaker 1: Where the fuck? Where the fuck? Yeah, It's like, you know,

1196
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:12,840
you had this one group that has like their you know,

1197
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:15,239
built their little place in the Middle East that they

1198
01:41:15,279 --> 01:41:17,640
can run to if things get bad. Where the fuck

1199
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:18,199
do I go.

1200
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, my family's been here since one hundred more

1201
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:27,880
than one hundred years since there was a United States

1202
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:30,239
of Like, where am I.

1203
01:41:30,079 --> 01:41:33,720
Speaker 1: I actually have citizenship to another country if I if

1204
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:35,600
I wanted to, I can reapply for it. I had

1205
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:37,279
it at one time. I let it laps. I have

1206
01:41:37,319 --> 01:41:39,840
to reapply. I can get it, but I can't step

1207
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:42,239
foot in that country because I've said stuff publicly. They

1208
01:41:42,239 --> 01:41:44,039
could get me thrown in jail in that country.

1209
01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:52,279
Speaker 2: Oh that that is the way of at least getting

1210
01:41:52,279 --> 01:41:54,880
your money out of the country is taking a flight

1211
01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:59,279
to Singapore. I highly recommend anybody that is listening that

1212
01:41:59,359 --> 01:42:03,239
has the means to do so, to do it. Singapore

1213
01:42:03,319 --> 01:42:08,399
is a very brilliant country that obviously because it was

1214
01:42:09,159 --> 01:42:15,399
created by such a noble man as a Leakwan You who.

1215
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:18,920
I think everyone that is interested in politics needs to

1216
01:42:18,920 --> 01:42:21,960
study Leakwan You. I think he might actually be one

1217
01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:25,800
of the most brilliant political minds of the last sixty

1218
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:31,600
seven years, and he's often overlooked a very race realist.

1219
01:42:32,079 --> 01:42:35,680
But in Singapore they are very smart and all the

1220
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:42,840
Singapore banks have branches in the international terminal of the airport,

1221
01:42:44,319 --> 01:42:48,760
so you could fly to Singapore in like a layover

1222
01:42:49,199 --> 01:42:54,239
somewhere else, right, never even get your passport stamped. As

1223
01:42:54,279 --> 01:42:57,239
far as anybody knows, you were never even in Singapore,

1224
01:42:58,319 --> 01:43:00,319
right the same way as I, like I have a

1225
01:43:00,399 --> 01:43:06,520
layover in Germany, I never leave the international terminal, right,

1226
01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:12,239
I never I never went to Germany. But tons of

1227
01:43:12,239 --> 01:43:18,720
Singapore banks will happily set up accounts for you in

1228
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:23,920
that international terminal. Most of them won't even ask for

1229
01:43:24,039 --> 01:43:30,880
docs find me another bank. Not only is it the

1230
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:33,319
only banks, the only banks that ever find an international

1231
01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:35,920
terminal in airport, but they're also the only ones that

1232
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:42,159
will take gold physical on deposit. So yeah, if you can,

1233
01:43:42,199 --> 01:43:43,520
if you can, if you ever want to get your

1234
01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:46,359
money out of the country, you can do it right.

1235
01:43:46,399 --> 01:43:48,039
And once you have that account set up, you can

1236
01:43:48,119 --> 01:43:51,359
wire from your account back home into it, and once

1237
01:43:51,399 --> 01:43:53,920
it goes in the US can't get it back. So

1238
01:43:54,119 --> 01:43:55,960
even though we can't go to join me without getting

1239
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:58,279
arrested or at least our money can go somewhere.

1240
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:01,239
Speaker 1: Else all right, well until until the next time. Thank

1241
01:44:01,279 --> 01:44:07,239
you so appreciate it. But I want to welcome everyone

1242
01:44:07,359 --> 01:44:11,640
back to the Pekea show. Stormy is back for part

1243
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:16,520
two talking about the quote unquote Robbert Barons, how are

1244
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:17,239
you doing, Stormy.

1245
01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:18,800
Speaker 2: I'm doing very well.

1246
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:22,319
Speaker 9: I'm doing very well.

1247
01:44:23,319 --> 01:44:32,119
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes. So in the previous

1248
01:44:32,199 --> 01:44:39,920
episode I mentioned that Jack now sorry, John Pierpont, Morgan's

1249
01:44:42,319 --> 01:44:45,359
I think a great great great grand no great great

1250
01:44:45,359 --> 01:44:48,520
grandfather at that point in time, was the same as

1251
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:53,840
the rum Bottle pirate. It's not necessarily the case. All

1252
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:56,000
he was is he was a He was a very

1253
01:44:56,000 --> 01:45:03,279
famous privateer during like the lead up to he was

1254
01:45:03,319 --> 01:45:08,520
doing sketchy stuff before the Revolutionary War, was a privateer

1255
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:15,640
and then continued on being a privateer. I'm assuming in

1256
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:20,479
it was it the when the when the US had

1257
01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:22,720
the problem with the moors. So this was like still

1258
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:25,800
like what the Barbara, the Barbary Barbary pirates. There you go,

1259
01:45:26,319 --> 01:45:31,399
there you go. So yeah, so he was a pirate

1260
01:45:32,399 --> 01:45:35,720
named Morgan and a privateer named Morgan. Whether or not

1261
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:39,159
that's the same Captain Morgan, probably not. I probably don't

1262
01:45:39,199 --> 01:45:41,800
think that it is. I don't know the genealogy of

1263
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:43,239
the rum Bottle guy.

1264
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:46,039
Speaker 1: Was that from was that from the house of Was

1265
01:45:46,039 --> 01:45:48,239
that from the house of Morgan? Book that that implied that.

1266
01:45:48,399 --> 01:45:51,680
Speaker 2: Yes, House of the House of Morgan. First two chapters

1267
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:58,479
is about the is about his, the the Morgan family

1268
01:45:59,239 --> 01:46:03,199
prior to on Pierpont, right, so you had his John,

1269
01:46:03,239 --> 01:46:08,840
Pierpont's dad who I can't remember I'm blanking on, which

1270
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:13,319
I think was just Pierpont, and then before him, going

1271
01:46:13,359 --> 01:46:16,520
back like two generations, three generations, so it was it

1272
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:20,760
goes into very early Morgan history, long before banking and

1273
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:25,279
long before Pierpont was selling American bombs to English investors,

1274
01:46:25,359 --> 01:46:28,720
so this would still be like, you know, British financial

1275
01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:35,079
primacy both pre Revolutionary War and early after. And then

1276
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:40,119
so two generations it yeah, it goes back to like

1277
01:46:40,199 --> 01:46:44,560
the mid sixteen hundreds, Morgan family not doing too much.

1278
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:46,800
It's you know, the chapters are kind of quick in

1279
01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:49,840
comparison to the rest of the information, you know, packed

1280
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:52,760
into the later chapters. It's a nine hundred page tone,

1281
01:46:54,239 --> 01:46:56,640
but anybody that has the time to read it, I

1282
01:46:56,720 --> 01:47:03,279
really think you should because it goes into after John

1283
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:10,720
died and Jack took over. The bank had gotten so big.

1284
01:47:11,399 --> 01:47:16,760
I was talking to a mutual friend, got a fantastic

1285
01:47:16,760 --> 01:47:20,239
account to follow. He and I geek out about science

1286
01:47:20,279 --> 01:47:24,720
and consciousness science all the time. We actually did a

1287
01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:28,680
really popular which I'm glad I still find it. I

1288
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:32,079
still find it kind of like shocking that anybody like

1289
01:47:32,199 --> 01:47:38,720
finds my private interests like interesting. Yeah, I know, people

1290
01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:41,960
like professionally, I'm kind of used to like, you know,

1291
01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:45,800
speaking at summits or whatever or conferences, so I know,

1292
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:49,760
like my public you know, professional ideas can sometimes be interesting.

1293
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:53,119
But I still find it amazing that people find like

1294
01:47:54,359 --> 01:47:57,840
the stuff I nerd out to privately of value. But

1295
01:47:58,079 --> 01:48:00,239
he and I did a really great consciousness series, is

1296
01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:04,560
like the State of Consciousness Science and what the implications are.

1297
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:12,319
But he and I were talking about about the peculiarities

1298
01:48:13,159 --> 01:48:21,119
of WASP patronage and why it's different than anything. So

1299
01:48:21,279 --> 01:48:25,199
a he called me because when I said in the

1300
01:48:25,279 --> 01:48:29,680
last show that the European aristocracy had really been dead

1301
01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:35,960
for two hundred years by the time the revolution rolled around,

1302
01:48:36,079 --> 01:48:41,880
and he very begrudgingly, you know, his colin and said like, yeah,

1303
01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:44,199
I think you're right. It's really really, really sad. But

1304
01:48:45,359 --> 01:48:50,760
by the time this sixteen hundred, seventeen hundreds, I guess

1305
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:54,439
it was more similar to what we have today as elites,

1306
01:48:55,279 --> 01:49:03,000
just very unimpressive people that became kind of with few exceptions,

1307
01:49:03,159 --> 01:49:11,920
but very very vampiristic and not the type of behavior

1308
01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:15,760
that you and I were talking about on our first episode,

1309
01:49:16,880 --> 01:49:22,720
and in talking about that, we touched on kind of

1310
01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:26,680
the sol You're not gonna like, I've never heard of

1311
01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:31,119
something like this practiced in any other society or any

1312
01:49:31,119 --> 01:49:38,600
other culture, but you see it throughout the American you know, aristocracy,

1313
01:49:39,720 --> 01:49:43,199
and it died out roughly around the same time as

1314
01:49:43,239 --> 01:49:46,680
their power died out in the sixties was probably like

1315
01:49:47,359 --> 01:49:50,680
the total disenfranchisement. But by the forties it was it

1316
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:54,520
was really well underway. But Jack Morgan, the son of

1317
01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:59,560
John Pierpont, by the time the Second or the First

1318
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:04,640
World were wrapped up, JP Morgan and and really Wall

1319
01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:11,479
Street in its entirety had official like officially like it

1320
01:50:11,279 --> 01:50:13,920
was it was. It wasn't in doubt anymore. Right, the

1321
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:17,479
financial headquarters, the financial capital of the world was now

1322
01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:24,279
New York. Right. World War One ended England's financial you

1323
01:50:24,319 --> 01:50:31,199
know primacy in the world, and the financial capital of

1324
01:50:31,359 --> 01:50:38,520
capital was in America now, and all of a sudden,

1325
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:46,800
the it became very important for for JP Morgan, the

1326
01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:54,039
Institution two. It went from a very hyper nationalist or

1327
01:50:54,079 --> 01:50:57,319
a hyper national bank, right it really like all of

1328
01:50:57,680 --> 01:51:02,279
morgan financial power Wisconsin traded into roughly two buildings plus

1329
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:09,520
Pierpont's apartment and Jack's estate in the Hamptons and that

1330
01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:17,640
was it. But a rapid expansion was needed before for

1331
01:51:17,720 --> 01:51:24,199
them to hold on to that primacy. So Jack ended

1332
01:51:24,279 --> 01:51:30,000
up moving to England shortly after. These guys never really

1333
01:51:30,039 --> 01:51:34,319
moved to any place not to you know, call them cosmopolitan,

1334
01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:38,279
you know, rootless cosmopolitans. But these men, you know, had

1335
01:51:38,319 --> 01:51:42,840
a estate in the UK usually and it wasn't just

1336
01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:46,039
it wasn't just Jack Morgan. A lot of these guys did,

1337
01:51:46,720 --> 01:51:53,119
right that they would spend the summer months because you know,

1338
01:51:53,720 --> 01:51:59,039
the hunting, particularly bird hunting and most importantly fox hunting

1339
01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:04,119
was it was just the thing to do. So these

1340
01:52:04,159 --> 01:52:06,880
men would have places and you know in the city

1341
01:52:06,920 --> 01:52:09,760
in New York City, a place in London in the city,

1342
01:52:10,199 --> 01:52:13,560
and then a country estate and usually another estate in

1343
01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:18,359
like the Hampton's or Newport Rhode Island. But Jack would

1344
01:52:18,439 --> 01:52:21,560
move to spend most of his time in his country estate.

1345
01:52:21,640 --> 01:52:25,960
He literally became like full on country gentleman, like out

1346
01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:29,960
of what you would imagine like downtown Abbey is, right like,

1347
01:52:30,039 --> 01:52:32,920
that's that's how he, you know, live the rest of

1348
01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:35,800
his life. He would probably spend only five or six

1349
01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:40,000
months back in New York because his primary focus became

1350
01:52:41,359 --> 01:52:45,760
the international operation of the bank, right, Like, a lot

1351
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:50,039
of responsibility comes from primacy, And so the need for

1352
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:54,479
JP Morgan to have a footprint in Japan, which at

1353
01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:58,960
this point was just rising and rapidly industrializing, capital needed

1354
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:06,279
to be there, and in Shanghai, and in Brussels, and

1355
01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:12,239
in France, and and and that really dominated most of

1356
01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:18,199
Jack's involvement for the rest of his life in JP Morgan.

1357
01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:23,800
So US Operations was really where the core of the

1358
01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:28,159
business was, right you know, kind of like how all

1359
01:53:28,199 --> 01:53:32,840
of our even all of our corporate you know, decisions

1360
01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:36,239
are now made in Washington, right like it, you know

1361
01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:42,359
it power kind of centralizes all by itself. So the

1362
01:53:42,479 --> 01:53:47,680
US Operations passed on to a guy by the name

1363
01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:54,520
of Thomas Lamont, and Thomas Lamont is probably the It

1364
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:57,079
probably doesn't sound like a very familiar name to anybody,

1365
01:53:58,279 --> 01:54:03,760
but if you google Thomas Lamont you'll find out he's

1366
01:54:03,800 --> 01:54:06,279
one of the most important people in the last you know,

1367
01:54:07,960 --> 01:54:12,159
from merely World War Two onto his death, which I

1368
01:54:12,199 --> 01:54:17,000
believe was in the eighties. All right, But the man

1369
01:54:17,039 --> 01:54:19,279
who made JP Morgan kind of what it is today

1370
01:54:19,399 --> 01:54:27,680
was Thomas Lamont and not Jack Morgan, right Jack, at

1371
01:54:27,680 --> 01:54:29,680
this point in time, by the time World War Two

1372
01:54:29,760 --> 01:54:35,920
rolled around, Jack's entire interests were politics, particularly US politics.

1373
01:54:36,399 --> 01:54:38,920
You know, being in Europe and seeing what was happening

1374
01:54:38,920 --> 01:54:44,199
in Europe just increased that even more. But I want

1375
01:54:44,199 --> 01:54:46,000
to touch on this type of patronage before we get

1376
01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:51,000
into the business plot. Thomas Lamont was an orphan, right,

1377
01:54:51,319 --> 01:54:56,479
a pauper. So not only did he have really no

1378
01:54:56,680 --> 01:54:59,680
family to speak of, No, I think he had his father,

1379
01:55:00,359 --> 01:55:06,159
who I believe died when he was in a twelve

1380
01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:19,479
or ten, and the family that Tom's father worked for, Right,

1381
01:55:19,840 --> 01:55:24,760
this is another thing. Right, So, like, let's say you

1382
01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:28,960
work for one of these men, right, like, you're their

1383
01:55:29,039 --> 01:55:33,000
mechanic for their automobiles. Because back then, you know, you

1384
01:55:33,039 --> 01:55:36,880
needed a mechanic because you probably had two cars, and

1385
01:55:37,000 --> 01:55:39,680
if you didn't have a mechanic, there wouldn't be a

1386
01:55:39,680 --> 01:55:42,359
guarantee that one of those two cars would be running

1387
01:55:42,359 --> 01:55:44,640
at any given time. So if you wanted a car

1388
01:55:44,680 --> 01:55:47,800
that you could drive, you know, whenever you wanted to.

1389
01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:53,239
That required a mechanic to guarantee. So, whether you're the mechanic,

1390
01:55:53,359 --> 01:55:56,880
whether you're the cobbler, right you make you make one

1391
01:55:56,880 --> 01:56:03,439
of these men's shoes, you're his tailor, right, you work

1392
01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:07,479
closely with any of these men, and if something were

1393
01:56:07,479 --> 01:56:10,720
to ever happen to you, right, this is before like

1394
01:56:10,840 --> 01:56:14,800
medicare medic kids. So security, like life insurance was kind

1395
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:21,920
of a thing, but it was prohibitively expensive. Really, all

1396
01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:24,800
of insurance was prohibitively expensive in that in that time,

1397
01:56:24,840 --> 01:56:29,520
whether it be shipping or otherwise, there was no safety

1398
01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:32,359
net for you. Right, So if you're the son of

1399
01:56:32,399 --> 01:56:40,199
a mechanic and your dad dies, your mom is basically

1400
01:56:40,239 --> 01:56:44,319
going to be on the streets and the rest of

1401
01:56:44,359 --> 01:56:49,439
your life is gonna look like just abject horror. Right,

1402
01:56:51,119 --> 01:56:55,760
And what only the only the was aristocracy made a

1403
01:56:55,760 --> 01:57:00,439
point of doing, is whenever something like that would happen, Right,

1404
01:57:00,720 --> 01:57:04,159
anyone that worked for the family in any capacity, if

1405
01:57:04,159 --> 01:57:07,960
something were to happen, they felt it was their duty

1406
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:15,560
to house whether she you know, whether you know you're

1407
01:57:16,760 --> 01:57:20,560
the mechanic's wife, you know your mom in this hypothetical scenario,

1408
01:57:21,079 --> 01:57:24,479
got moved into one of the guest homes or you know,

1409
01:57:25,159 --> 01:57:28,640
the maid's quarters, whether that be a separate house on

1410
01:57:28,760 --> 01:57:34,640
the property or inside the main house, and you would

1411
01:57:34,680 --> 01:57:41,640
be sent to boarding school. Right that These people, it's

1412
01:57:41,680 --> 01:57:47,199
it's really a shame. These men believed that it was

1413
01:57:47,239 --> 01:57:52,640
their duty to ensure that you were educated to like

1414
01:57:52,720 --> 01:57:59,720
the highest degree, right, because you were basically their responsibility. Right.

1415
01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:02,840
So if you going to be their responsibility, you are,

1416
01:58:04,159 --> 01:58:08,279
in one way, shape or form, a representation of their

1417
01:58:08,840 --> 01:58:12,119
of them, of their magn of who they are as

1418
01:58:12,119 --> 01:58:17,279
a man. Right. So, like the reason why you treat

1419
01:58:17,319 --> 01:58:20,520
your wife nicely or your girlfriend very nicely, the reason

1420
01:58:20,560 --> 01:58:25,359
why you want her to dress very nicely, be presentable,

1421
01:58:25,399 --> 01:58:28,359
and why you want everyone to treat her very very

1422
01:58:28,439 --> 01:58:31,000
well when she goes out is because she is a

1423
01:58:31,039 --> 01:58:39,800
representation of you. She is your proxy. Right, So if

1424
01:58:39,800 --> 01:58:45,520
somebody disrespects her, she's disrespect they're disrespecting you, right. And

1425
01:58:45,560 --> 01:58:53,079
how she appears and how she you know, carries herself

1426
01:58:53,720 --> 01:58:57,640
is a representation is a representation of you. Right, how

1427
01:58:57,680 --> 01:58:59,840
your house looks. If your house is a fucking man,

1428
01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:05,920
nobody's going to respect you, like your home, your family,

1429
01:59:06,760 --> 01:59:12,279
your wife. These are all a man's proxies, right, like

1430
01:59:12,319 --> 01:59:16,159
his avatars. Wherever they go, they will always be a

1431
01:59:16,199 --> 01:59:26,199
representation of him, the man. And these men viewed that

1432
01:59:26,199 --> 01:59:30,239
that boundary layer much further out than we do. Right.

1433
01:59:30,319 --> 01:59:34,079
So if you were in the employ of one of

1434
01:59:34,119 --> 01:59:38,840
these men, and God forbid, something happen to you, right,

1435
01:59:39,239 --> 01:59:45,279
they would take you know, that man's children as their responsibility,

1436
01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:49,520
not their children, right. They're not adopting them, right, but

1437
01:59:49,560 --> 01:59:54,720
they're taking them on because it was their duty. Right.

1438
01:59:54,760 --> 01:59:59,000
This man worked for me, he was under my employee,

1439
01:59:59,239 --> 02:00:01,479
and now something terrible, what's happened to him? It is

1440
02:00:01,600 --> 02:00:05,640
my job as a man to make sure that his

1441
02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:09,800
kids have at least every opportunity. Whatever the children do

1442
02:00:09,880 --> 02:00:14,640
with the opportunities, right, that's no reflection on you, But

1443
02:00:15,760 --> 02:00:20,359
them being denied those opportunities is a reflection on you.

1444
02:00:20,359 --> 02:00:25,640
You send the child of your mechanic, your former deceased mechanic,

1445
02:00:26,279 --> 02:00:29,279
you send him to the same boarding schools that you

1446
02:00:29,319 --> 02:00:33,359
send your children to, because that's the type of person

1447
02:00:33,439 --> 02:00:37,960
you are. Not only are your sons, it's expected that

1448
02:00:38,039 --> 02:00:43,039
your sons would go to this boarding school, but you

1449
02:00:43,079 --> 02:00:47,000
are sending that young man to the same boarding school,

1450
02:00:47,039 --> 02:00:54,319
which means you're basically telling something to the world. Right,

1451
02:00:54,920 --> 02:01:01,199
they're telling the world that they have not shirked their duty,

1452
02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:09,560
which is really like the defining characteristic of these you know,

1453
02:01:10,920 --> 02:01:14,439
how they oriented themselves in the world. So Tom Lamont

1454
02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:18,359
was one of those kids. And this is what the

1455
02:01:18,439 --> 02:01:26,039
WASP aristocracy did that no other aristocracy did. You It

1456
02:01:26,079 --> 02:01:32,840
was a type of eugenics. And the entire like defining

1457
02:01:32,920 --> 02:01:38,039
criteria was character. And you see character talked about all

1458
02:01:38,239 --> 02:01:42,960
the time, right, if you read anything any of the

1459
02:01:42,960 --> 02:01:47,000
correspondents of any of these men, whether it be Rockefeller,

1460
02:01:47,039 --> 02:01:51,600
would be Carnegie, whether it be DuPont, any of the

1461
02:01:51,680 --> 02:01:55,159
DuPont brothers, they talk about characters so much. All Right,

1462
02:01:55,520 --> 02:01:59,680
character is you know, everybody talks about like how base,

1463
02:01:59,840 --> 02:02:02,840
you know, how based the National Socialists were, you know

1464
02:02:03,439 --> 02:02:06,319
they you know, they understood the importance of eugenics. Where

1465
02:02:06,319 --> 02:02:09,960
did they get that understanding of eugenics from people.

1466
02:02:12,720 --> 02:02:15,479
Speaker 1: The progressive movement in the United States?

1467
02:02:15,520 --> 02:02:23,079
Speaker 2: Basically m no, I mean, yeah, well I would say it.

1468
02:02:23,800 --> 02:02:26,319
I would say it's not the progressive movement. I mean

1469
02:02:26,439 --> 02:02:28,680
John D. Rockefeller wasn't a progressive and he was the

1470
02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:32,239
guy that right, in doubt, all the all of the institutes,

1471
02:02:33,079 --> 02:02:36,119
but they were sorting for They were doing eugenics, but

1472
02:02:36,159 --> 02:02:40,119
they were sorting for character. If you look at like

1473
02:02:40,239 --> 02:02:44,359
all of the genetic or the eugenics discussions at the time,

1474
02:02:45,000 --> 02:02:47,399
they weren't trying to like root out who is going

1475
02:02:47,439 --> 02:02:51,000
to be like the weakest, or who is going to

1476
02:02:51,000 --> 02:02:54,079
be the most trail or who is going to be

1477
02:02:54,159 --> 02:02:56,600
the strongest and the best looking. That's not what they

1478
02:02:56,600 --> 02:03:01,760
were sorting for. They were sorting for character, right. It's

1479
02:03:02,319 --> 02:03:05,439
it's impossible to miss if you're looking at any of

1480
02:03:05,560 --> 02:03:10,039
the dialogue on eugenics of the time, right, like, oh, well,

1481
02:03:10,920 --> 02:03:13,840
you know this is a lot like in these people,

1482
02:03:15,600 --> 02:03:19,560
these people, you know, can't reproduce because if you look,

1483
02:03:20,239 --> 02:03:23,560
you know both of the parents are criminals, or the

1484
02:03:23,640 --> 02:03:26,159
mother is an alcoholic and the father is a criminal.

1485
02:03:27,359 --> 02:03:31,119
The children of this union will only have poor character.

1486
02:03:32,199 --> 02:03:37,640
So character was a defining thing for the aristocracy of America.

1487
02:03:38,640 --> 02:03:42,920
And when they would give out this patronage, right when

1488
02:03:42,960 --> 02:03:45,399
they take responsibility for these kids, and they would do it,

1489
02:03:45,439 --> 02:03:48,760
a lot like you could find it would take you

1490
02:03:49,159 --> 02:03:52,000
not too much searching, but you could find that you

1491
02:03:52,000 --> 02:03:55,600
would find out that John D. Rockefeller probably did that,

1492
02:03:55,640 --> 02:04:00,800
he'd probably put forty kids through private school up other

1493
02:04:00,840 --> 02:04:07,399
than his children, the DuPonts, even more the Morgans. This

1494
02:04:07,600 --> 02:04:11,920
was how they brought new blood into the aristocracy. Right

1495
02:04:11,960 --> 02:04:15,479
when anyone somebody was when someone was in their service

1496
02:04:16,560 --> 02:04:19,680
and something bad happened to that person, they would take

1497
02:04:20,199 --> 02:04:24,199
the children and give the children the same opportunities that

1498
02:04:24,239 --> 02:04:27,079
their children had, and they would see, they would sit

1499
02:04:27,119 --> 02:04:30,520
and wait, and if the person was of good character,

1500
02:04:31,840 --> 02:04:36,600
the same opportunities you know, later on in life would

1501
02:04:36,640 --> 02:04:39,439
be provided to them. Right. That's how you get to

1502
02:04:39,439 --> 02:04:44,920
be Tom Lamont, you know, orphan kid going to the

1503
02:04:45,039 --> 02:04:47,920
nicest prep school in America because who your dad worked for.

1504
02:04:49,800 --> 02:04:53,279
Speaker 1: And you were Were you aware that his great grandson

1505
02:04:54,239 --> 02:04:57,439
Ned is the governor of Connecticut?

1506
02:05:00,439 --> 02:05:03,399
Speaker 2: No? That is right now?

1507
02:05:05,520 --> 02:05:06,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so upsetting.

1508
02:05:07,039 --> 02:05:11,279
Speaker 2: That's so upsetting. One of the things I resent the

1509
02:05:11,319 --> 02:05:14,279
most is not being able to live in New England anymore.

1510
02:05:15,520 --> 02:05:18,840
I grew up in Connecticut, like I had probably the

1511
02:05:18,840 --> 02:05:24,640
most idyllic childhood anyone could ever have. I've done a

1512
02:05:25,119 --> 02:05:31,880
beautiful old stone house, uh fucking almost a mile long

1513
02:05:31,960 --> 02:05:36,680
driveway to a nice gate with a big stone wall,

1514
02:05:37,520 --> 02:05:41,760
and the stone wall ended up ended in two pillars

1515
02:05:41,800 --> 02:05:44,159
with lamp posts. And that's like, I don't get to

1516
02:05:44,199 --> 02:05:50,920
live there anymore because the city governments and the state

1517
02:05:50,960 --> 02:05:55,600
governments can't stop borrowing money, and the interest on that

1518
02:05:55,680 --> 02:06:00,800
money is literally making them insolvent. So my friends that

1519
02:06:00,880 --> 02:06:04,720
still live there, their property taxes are roughly about as

1520
02:06:04,800 --> 02:06:07,920
much as their mortgage, except for they're never going to

1521
02:06:07,920 --> 02:06:10,439
be able to pay off their property taxesn't unlike their

1522
02:06:10,479 --> 02:06:15,920
mortgage that stays roughly the same. Their property taxes double

1523
02:06:19,119 --> 02:06:24,760
pretty much every five years, so either their money doubles

1524
02:06:24,800 --> 02:06:30,520
every five years, which it doesn't. Eventually every town in

1525
02:06:30,560 --> 02:06:33,119
Connecticut is going to be the largest property the largest

1526
02:06:33,119 --> 02:06:35,840
property owners in Connecticut are going to be you know,

1527
02:06:36,720 --> 02:06:42,239
the towns themselves. So yeah, that and how they are

1528
02:06:42,239 --> 02:06:45,680
intent on, you know, running the country. It drives me

1529
02:06:45,760 --> 02:06:47,880
nuts that I can't even live in New England, like

1530
02:06:47,960 --> 02:06:50,920
the old New England's the prettiest place in the entire country.

1531
02:06:51,680 --> 02:06:58,159
Like sorry you know out West Bros. And sorry Montana Bros.

1532
02:06:58,319 --> 02:07:03,399
And sorry Wyoming Bros. Rural New England is the prettiest

1533
02:07:03,399 --> 02:07:08,840
place in the entire confident of the United States. It

1534
02:07:08,960 --> 02:07:13,800
just is and it's the only place with history, right,

1535
02:07:13,880 --> 02:07:16,359
Like you're not going to be walking through the woods

1536
02:07:16,479 --> 02:07:17,399
in anyway.

1537
02:07:17,399 --> 02:07:19,520
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, yea, it just gets me. I think Virginia.

1538
02:07:19,680 --> 02:07:22,680
I think Virginia bros. Will have a have a fit

1539
02:07:22,720 --> 02:07:24,479
if you say it's the only place it has history.

1540
02:07:24,880 --> 02:07:27,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we also have Yeah, but Virginia bros. Don't

1541
02:07:27,880 --> 02:07:31,000
get fall like New England gets fall, So they are

1542
02:07:31,159 --> 02:07:36,159
as pretty seventy five percent of the time actually, like, yeah,

1543
02:07:36,199 --> 02:07:38,520
seventy five percent of the time. But then, like you know,

1544
02:07:38,560 --> 02:07:40,800
when fall comes around, we kind of edge our way

1545
02:07:40,840 --> 02:07:43,600
out in front. And I'm sure they would be willing

1546
02:07:43,640 --> 02:07:50,159
to concede that I will concede their their springs are

1547
02:07:50,159 --> 02:07:55,680
probably prettier than ours because they get warmer faster. But yeah,

1548
02:07:57,039 --> 02:07:59,960
also another place that's been equally destroyed. So I find

1549
02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:04,439
it really really funny that that guy, especially with that name,

1550
02:08:05,960 --> 02:08:11,039
is now presiding over it. Like just the absolute destruction

1551
02:08:11,159 --> 02:08:18,239
of the moral compass of the boomer generation astounds me. Anyways,

1552
02:08:18,399 --> 02:08:20,399
I'm getting getting off track. I do that a lot,

1553
02:08:21,279 --> 02:08:26,800
but it was a type of patronage that I think

1554
02:08:26,840 --> 02:08:30,199
that we should Obviously, I don't think we should be

1555
02:08:30,199 --> 02:08:35,399
putting strangers kids through college or to school. But I

1556
02:08:35,399 --> 02:08:37,479
think that this is something that all of us can do,

1557
02:08:39,680 --> 02:08:44,840
right if you. I think if somebody loses their job

1558
02:08:46,199 --> 02:08:49,720
in our thing, I think it's every one of our

1559
02:08:49,840 --> 02:08:52,720
duties to try and help that person find a new job,

1560
02:08:56,560 --> 02:08:58,039
like at bare minimum.

1561
02:08:58,079 --> 02:08:59,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I just released it. I just released an

1562
02:09:00,039 --> 02:09:04,960
episode this week today myself and uh not me, not

1563
02:09:05,119 --> 02:09:09,560
you from OGC. He he was on the ground in

1564
02:09:09,560 --> 02:09:13,000
North Carolina for the past Uh yeah, he was there

1565
02:09:13,640 --> 02:09:17,079
after the try to help with the relief efforts and everything.

1566
02:09:17,159 --> 02:09:19,319
And you know, one of the things he said at

1567
02:09:19,319 --> 02:09:23,640
the end was he said, young guys who think you

1568
02:09:23,640 --> 02:09:28,359
you know, you're missing out on adventure, go there right now.

1569
02:09:28,960 --> 02:09:31,479
People need help. There are people who are willing to

1570
02:09:31,560 --> 02:09:34,840
help their The means are there. You can click up

1571
02:09:34,840 --> 02:09:36,560
with people in the Old Glory Club who are on

1572
02:09:36,600 --> 02:09:40,000
the ground right now. Go do it, and we owe it.

1573
02:09:40,880 --> 02:09:43,119
We owe it to these people to do it.

1574
02:09:44,520 --> 02:09:48,279
Speaker 2: How many people took him up on that?

1575
02:09:47,760 --> 02:09:51,960
Speaker 1: I just released the episode so three hours ago, So.

1576
02:09:52,239 --> 02:09:56,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I missed that first part. Yeah. I strongly encourage

1577
02:09:57,039 --> 02:09:59,479
anybody that's listening to this to go then listen to

1578
02:09:59,520 --> 02:10:09,199
that episode. Out and just we need to be better

1579
02:10:09,199 --> 02:10:15,399
because we used to be better, and we're really good

1580
02:10:15,439 --> 02:10:19,279
at making excuses. And I think that's what mud like.

1581
02:10:20,720 --> 02:10:22,840
I think that's one of the biggest crutches of our time,

1582
02:10:23,600 --> 02:10:26,159
is that we've gotten so much better and there's so

1583
02:10:26,239 --> 02:10:30,000
many like little things that take away your time or

1584
02:10:30,079 --> 02:10:32,920
could consume your time whatever, that we've gotten really good

1585
02:10:33,199 --> 02:10:36,439
at coming up with excuses or the excuses are provided

1586
02:10:36,479 --> 02:10:39,600
to us for why we don't do things that we

1587
02:10:39,640 --> 02:10:44,560
know we should. So I know there's a couple guys

1588
02:10:46,119 --> 02:10:51,119
in the in you know, our thing that you know,

1589
02:10:51,119 --> 02:10:55,199
I've tried to help employee, sorry not personally, but make

1590
02:10:55,239 --> 02:10:58,159
sure that they are introduced to people that will give

1591
02:10:58,199 --> 02:11:01,439
them a career that they want or a career that

1592
02:11:02,319 --> 02:11:04,319
I think that they would be very foolish to not take.

1593
02:11:06,399 --> 02:11:09,039
And if you're listening to this and you're in a

1594
02:11:09,079 --> 02:11:17,399
similar position, that needs to be something you do if

1595
02:11:17,439 --> 02:11:22,359
something bad happens to somebody in our not just in

1596
02:11:22,439 --> 02:11:27,840
our thing, Like if you're listening to this, you have

1597
02:11:27,880 --> 02:11:33,000
a responsibility to be better than everybody else and not

1598
02:11:33,159 --> 02:11:35,239
like in the way that all the people in our

1599
02:11:35,560 --> 02:11:40,000
that some people in our thing LARP as aristocrats, as

1600
02:11:40,079 --> 02:11:50,000
disenfranchised aristocrats. There's nothing that The way the term has

1601
02:11:50,039 --> 02:11:53,039
been kind of banded around or sorry bad it about

1602
02:11:53,159 --> 02:11:57,279
in our things is really kind of like how you know,

1603
02:11:59,239 --> 02:12:04,119
the way people and our thing view aristocracy or nobilities

1604
02:12:05,479 --> 02:12:10,720
really no different than how a I don't know how

1605
02:12:10,720 --> 02:12:19,600
a drug dealer views wealth. Right, it's there's a term

1606
02:12:19,600 --> 02:12:20,920
I want to use, but I know this is probably

1607
02:12:20,920 --> 02:12:23,840
gonna go on YouTube, so I won't use it. But

1608
02:12:24,000 --> 02:12:29,039
it is h It's n word rich. And we have

1609
02:12:29,079 --> 02:12:36,119
a similar concept of nobility and aristocracy. If we go

1610
02:12:36,239 --> 02:12:45,359
back in time, what did men of means think of nobility? Well,

1611
02:12:45,800 --> 02:12:49,439
they didn't think it was about being better than anybody else. Right,

1612
02:12:50,680 --> 02:12:56,239
you don't build two thousand churches three thousand churches because

1613
02:12:56,239 --> 02:13:00,640
you're better than everybody else. You don't build every public

1614
02:13:00,720 --> 02:13:05,720
library in the nation because you're better than everybody else.

1615
02:13:06,920 --> 02:13:10,640
You build them because you want everybody else to be better,

1616
02:13:12,239 --> 02:13:18,199
just period better, which means that you wouldn't be so

1617
02:13:18,319 --> 02:13:22,359
much better than them. Right, if your whole identity is

1618
02:13:22,399 --> 02:13:25,840
being better than everybody else, the last thing that you

1619
02:13:25,840 --> 02:13:31,720
would want to do is to give people the means.

1620
02:13:32,359 --> 02:13:39,960
People that you viewed beneath you the means to self actualization,

1621
02:13:40,800 --> 02:13:48,000
to be better. But in fact, that is your duty.

1622
02:13:50,239 --> 02:13:58,000
That's what nobility is really all about. It's about those

1623
02:13:58,039 --> 02:14:04,119
four letters. So whether it's go to North Carolina and

1624
02:14:04,159 --> 02:14:08,479
help out, I apologize that was very rude. I put

1625
02:14:08,520 --> 02:14:10,199
my phone on silent. I thought I already did that.

1626
02:14:11,199 --> 02:14:13,159
It's your duty to go to North Carolina if you

1627
02:14:13,199 --> 02:14:18,720
can and help out. It's your duty to help get

1628
02:14:18,760 --> 02:14:22,399
one of our guys a job when he gets docks

1629
02:14:22,479 --> 02:14:28,560
or laid off. It's your duty to help chip in

1630
02:14:29,920 --> 02:14:40,359
if some unforeseen and regrettable medical thing happens to one

1631
02:14:40,399 --> 02:14:46,600
of our guys or just someone you know, right and

1632
02:14:46,640 --> 02:14:54,520
they don't have insurance, Like we shirk so much of

1633
02:14:54,560 --> 02:14:57,000
our duty to our fellow people, and we view it like,

1634
02:14:57,039 --> 02:15:00,199
oh whoa. You know, sometimes it's tied up in like

1635
02:15:00,399 --> 02:15:11,680
religious things, but it's just it's not like charity can

1636
02:15:12,760 --> 02:15:16,880
and is part of, you know, the Christian faith. But

1637
02:15:17,000 --> 02:15:20,479
that's also just what you should do. If you look

1638
02:15:20,600 --> 02:15:27,359
like me and you look like Pete, that's your responsibility.

1639
02:15:29,279 --> 02:15:35,479
And I think that's probably the thing that's the most

1640
02:15:35,520 --> 02:15:40,279
regrettable out of all the things that we've lost. I

1641
02:15:40,319 --> 02:15:41,640
think that one's the worst.

1642
02:15:44,119 --> 02:15:52,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole idea of like when we when we

1643
02:15:52,199 --> 02:15:54,840
had our event, the Old Glory Club had our event.

1644
02:15:55,079 --> 02:15:59,800
You know, it's suit, it's jacket and high the whole time,

1645
02:16:00,560 --> 02:16:06,079
the whole time, the Old Glory Club here in Alabama,

1646
02:16:06,319 --> 02:16:10,439
when we meet, it's at least jacket. And there's a

1647
02:16:10,439 --> 02:16:16,359
reason there's yeah, and there's a reason for that. And

1648
02:16:16,439 --> 02:16:19,880
I think a lot of people don't don't understand just

1649
02:16:20,039 --> 02:16:27,479
exactly how casual and that word has many meanings and

1650
02:16:27,560 --> 02:16:30,680
it can be taken many ways. We become about the

1651
02:16:30,680 --> 02:16:31,960
way we carry ourselves.

1652
02:16:32,440 --> 02:16:36,280
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, how we speak.

1653
02:16:37,079 --> 02:16:39,879
Speaker 1: Wearing a jacket. Wearing a jacket makes it a lot

1654
02:16:39,920 --> 02:16:42,120
easier to to hide a weapon too, So.

1655
02:16:42,920 --> 02:16:47,600
Speaker 2: There is you can actually hide a weapon and several reloods.

1656
02:16:48,719 --> 02:16:51,079
You can get at least a couple of mags in

1657
02:16:51,719 --> 02:16:56,719
and probably a PC seed depending on how chunky you are.

1658
02:17:00,600 --> 02:17:04,840
If anybody is listening that doesn't have the capital for

1659
02:17:05,079 --> 02:17:10,200
like a nice suit or a nice suit jacket, I

1660
02:17:10,239 --> 02:17:13,440
want you to dm me. If you do have the

1661
02:17:13,520 --> 02:17:18,319
capital and you lie about it to get some really

1662
02:17:18,360 --> 02:17:23,040
really really sick you know dress attire, you'll have to

1663
02:17:23,079 --> 02:17:25,159
live with that for the rest of your life. I

1664
02:17:25,159 --> 02:17:26,600
don't know what that's going to be like, but I

1665
02:17:26,600 --> 02:17:27,680
can't imagine it's great.

1666
02:17:31,079 --> 02:17:34,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, well you would you would hope that somebody's

1667
02:17:34,959 --> 02:17:36,799
conscience would be uh, would.

1668
02:17:36,559 --> 02:17:38,040
Speaker 2: Be clear exactly.

1669
02:17:38,079 --> 02:17:40,639
Speaker 1: You would hope that, Yeah, you'd hope we're dealing with

1670
02:17:40,719 --> 02:17:45,840
quality people here, and I know we are, so let's uh.

1671
02:17:45,360 --> 02:17:49,559
Speaker 2: Very high quality men. All right, So let's talk a

1672
02:17:49,559 --> 02:17:54,280
little bit about the specter of fascism in America.

1673
02:17:55,559 --> 02:17:56,159
Speaker 1: Let's do that.

1674
02:17:56,559 --> 02:18:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So the organization that the business plot was

1675
02:18:06,440 --> 02:18:09,440
was done out under right like, what the official organization

1676
02:18:09,760 --> 02:18:13,920
was was something called the American Liberty League. And I

1677
02:18:13,959 --> 02:18:15,760
know we touched a little bit on it at the

1678
02:18:15,840 --> 02:18:18,040
end of last episode, and I'm probably gonna have to

1679
02:18:18,079 --> 02:18:23,200
do some house cleaning again on the next one. I

1680
02:18:23,280 --> 02:18:28,040
make broad strokes, So yeah, just salt the taste. But

1681
02:18:28,879 --> 02:18:33,120
if I were to say right wing fascist and then

1682
02:18:33,159 --> 02:18:37,920
I were to say Huey Long, would you think those

1683
02:18:37,959 --> 02:18:43,639
things are diametrically opposed or simpler?

1684
02:18:45,040 --> 02:18:49,319
Speaker 1: I have. I have no issue with the term right

1685
02:18:49,360 --> 02:18:51,959
wing fascist and Huey Long being in the same sense.

1686
02:18:52,479 --> 02:19:05,319
Speaker 2: Well they were, so, mister mister Huey Long was a

1687
02:19:05,479 --> 02:19:10,600
very Avid Voe. So this is a this is a

1688
02:19:10,760 --> 02:19:13,600
this is a bigger thing. I I'm getting this hu

1689
02:19:13,680 --> 02:19:18,680
belong and and what what his role in this was,

1690
02:19:20,760 --> 02:19:26,280
but his presence kind of it points to a larger

1691
02:19:26,319 --> 02:19:29,440
trend about what was going on or what these men

1692
02:19:29,680 --> 02:19:35,200
thought was going on, right, Because what is fascism? Why

1693
02:19:35,559 --> 02:19:44,200
does Mussolini's Italy and how his government functions, and Hitler's

1694
02:19:44,239 --> 02:19:50,680
Germany and how the Reich functioned, and Franco's Spain and

1695
02:19:50,719 --> 02:19:54,840
how that government functioned. Right, If I were to try

1696
02:19:54,879 --> 02:19:58,559
and like draw parallels, I would be I'd be in

1697
02:19:58,600 --> 02:20:04,120
big trouble, because if fascism is a type of governance structure,

1698
02:20:04,760 --> 02:20:11,120
how come all the fascist governments are different? Right? Like

1699
02:20:12,000 --> 02:20:18,559
if you know Mussolini and Franco are the same thing,

1700
02:20:20,120 --> 02:20:25,280
right Like how maose Dung and you know Stalin are

1701
02:20:25,319 --> 02:20:28,680
supposedly are the same thing. They're both communists, right, well,

1702
02:20:28,719 --> 02:20:33,559
their governments function almost identically that you have the same

1703
02:20:33,639 --> 02:20:39,719
names for the same shit. But I'd be hard pressed

1704
02:20:39,719 --> 02:20:44,360
to find really any parallels between any of the so

1705
02:20:44,479 --> 02:20:49,000
called fascist nations. The only parallel that I can find,

1706
02:20:49,040 --> 02:20:53,360
the only commonality between any of them, all of them

1707
02:20:53,520 --> 02:20:59,840
is that they came about as an immune response to

1708
02:21:00,040 --> 02:21:07,040
communist revolution. That's the only commonality they have, that their

1709
02:21:07,120 --> 02:21:16,000
nations were undergoing a communist revolution, and these were the

1710
02:21:16,040 --> 02:21:19,920
men that were organized and capable of fighting against it

1711
02:21:19,959 --> 02:21:24,920
and pushing back against it to protect their a their

1712
02:21:25,000 --> 02:21:32,040
nation and b all of the citizens in there, even

1713
02:21:32,079 --> 02:21:41,879
the reluctant lefty ones. That's the only commonality. So is

1714
02:21:41,959 --> 02:21:46,639
the US and the attempted fascism? Is that any different?

1715
02:21:48,680 --> 02:21:54,040
And I would argue, no, it's not. And we joke

1716
02:21:55,280 --> 02:21:57,799
about what was you know, we joke about FDR, we

1717
02:21:57,879 --> 02:22:00,600
joke about the New Deal. We've got a million jokes.

1718
02:22:00,600 --> 02:22:03,559
And the Venona cables proved that there were in fact

1719
02:22:03,600 --> 02:22:07,239
a lot of commies in the Roosevelt government and many

1720
02:22:07,280 --> 02:22:12,440
of the governments subsequent. But what are the men at

1721
02:22:12,440 --> 02:22:20,479
the time think and why were they so scared? Because

1722
02:22:20,479 --> 02:22:25,520
they were scared of something right or else? Huey Long

1723
02:22:28,719 --> 02:22:34,159
John J. Braskin, the founder and chairman of General Motors,

1724
02:22:34,920 --> 02:22:41,559
a long time Democrat and DNC supporter. Right, I believe

1725
02:22:41,600 --> 02:22:45,959
at one time he was co chair of the DNC.

1726
02:22:47,280 --> 02:22:51,799
He actually was head of the committee that got FDR elected.

1727
02:22:53,600 --> 02:22:57,239
So what the fuck is he doing? In the American

1728
02:22:57,280 --> 02:23:02,840
Liberty League, And why is he so scared about what's

1729
02:23:02,879 --> 02:23:09,600
happening with FDR or what about Al Smith? Al Smith's

1730
02:23:09,600 --> 02:23:13,399
a very interesting man. He was the chairman of the

1731
02:23:13,479 --> 02:23:19,840
d n C at the time that FDR got elected, right,

1732
02:23:20,600 --> 02:23:26,680
he was actually the Democrat candidate for president the election cycle.

1733
02:23:26,799 --> 02:23:33,799
Priger like, you couldn't get more on the same team

1734
02:23:33,840 --> 02:23:45,920
as FDR. But somehow now John J. Raskin and Al

1735
02:23:46,040 --> 02:23:50,520
Smith longtime Governor of New York and chairman of the

1736
02:23:50,520 --> 02:23:58,879
Democrat Party, and these guys and Huey Long are on

1737
02:23:58,959 --> 02:24:05,319
the same team as Irony DuPont and Pierre DuPont. Iron DuPont,

1738
02:24:07,079 --> 02:24:14,200
I mean, this guy funded every extremist right wing political

1739
02:24:14,239 --> 02:24:18,600
movement in America his entire lifetime, since he was like fourteen.

1740
02:24:21,639 --> 02:24:27,000
He's basically the polar opposite to John Raskin and Al

1741
02:24:27,040 --> 02:24:36,440
Smith and and Huey Long. Huey Long got famous for

1742
02:24:36,559 --> 02:24:40,559
fighting Standard Oil and taking a percentage of those oil

1743
02:24:40,639 --> 02:24:46,559
profits at the Great State of Louisiana was making and

1744
02:24:46,639 --> 02:24:51,840
giving it to some of the people in Louisiana. Right,

1745
02:24:52,639 --> 02:24:59,879
Standard Oil tried sending people to beat him into a

1746
02:25:00,840 --> 02:25:03,799
or kill him. I don't think I actually kill him,

1747
02:25:03,799 --> 02:25:10,200
but you know, beat the hell out of him, and

1748
02:25:10,280 --> 02:25:13,479
he fought Standard Oil for years like he was enemy

1749
02:25:13,680 --> 02:25:19,319
number one on John Rockefeller's list for better part of

1750
02:25:19,360 --> 02:25:27,280
half a decade. So why is Hute Long on the

1751
02:25:27,319 --> 02:25:34,840
American Liberty League with John D. Rockefeller? I thought that

1752
02:25:34,959 --> 02:25:38,159
was very old So the Rockefeller Boys at this point

1753
02:25:39,479 --> 02:25:41,760
he was either he had either just passed, but the

1754
02:25:41,840 --> 02:25:45,239
Rockefeller boys. I don't want to have to do more

1755
02:25:45,239 --> 02:25:52,040
house cleaning next time, right, Why are these men? Why

1756
02:25:52,239 --> 02:25:55,120
is John Raskin on the same team as Henry Ford

1757
02:25:57,040 --> 02:26:00,479
and Pierpont Morgan? Again, why is the chairman of General

1758
02:26:00,520 --> 02:26:05,879
Motors on the same team as the Pounder chairman of Ford?

1759
02:26:07,239 --> 02:26:11,079
What were these men afraid of? Because they were afraid

1760
02:26:11,079 --> 02:26:16,600
of something? Because outside of the American Liberty League, these men,

1761
02:26:18,159 --> 02:26:22,079
I would be surprised if the two, if any of

1762
02:26:22,120 --> 02:26:24,200
them bumped into each other on the street, a fight

1763
02:26:24,840 --> 02:26:31,200
would ensue. With Huey Long, I guarantee it. So what

1764
02:26:31,360 --> 02:26:37,719
made these men come together? And there is a speech

1765
02:26:38,319 --> 02:26:43,319
that Pete I sent you this morning that I came

1766
02:26:43,360 --> 02:26:52,079
across that just kind of I'm gonna read the last

1767
02:26:52,079 --> 02:26:54,840
couple of pages or sorry, the last couple of paragraphs.

1768
02:26:54,840 --> 02:27:14,760
They're short, right that all right, here we go, here

1769
02:27:14,760 --> 02:27:21,360
we go. Now, in conclusion, let me give this solemn warning.

1770
02:27:21,399 --> 02:27:25,559
There can be one capital. It is either Washington or Moscow.

1771
02:27:26,959 --> 02:27:31,639
There can be only one atmosphere of government, the clear,

1772
02:27:33,000 --> 02:27:37,920
the pure, the fresh, free air of America or the

1773
02:27:38,000 --> 02:27:43,319
foul breath of communist Russia. There can be only one flag,

1774
02:27:44,520 --> 02:27:49,280
the Stars and the stripes or the red flag of

1775
02:27:49,399 --> 02:28:00,000
the godless Soviet Union. There can be only one national anthem,

1776
02:28:00,319 --> 02:28:04,840
the star spangled banner or the internationale. And there can

1777
02:28:04,879 --> 02:28:11,520
be only one victor. If the Constitution wins, we win.

1778
02:28:14,079 --> 02:28:23,000
But if the constitution stop, damn, he's really good. Stop

1779
02:28:23,399 --> 02:28:34,079
stop there. The constitution can't lose. The fact is it

1780
02:28:34,120 --> 02:28:42,159
has already won, but the news has not reached certain years.

1781
02:28:43,840 --> 02:28:55,440
And this was from the first meaning of the American

1782
02:28:55,479 --> 02:29:05,159
Liberty League in nineteen thirty two. This is from I

1783
02:29:05,239 --> 02:29:11,200
found this in a cycle teaching American history. It's like

1784
02:29:11,239 --> 02:29:16,559
a progressive like I guess if you're on some progressive

1785
02:29:16,600 --> 02:29:19,239
college for a law degree, like this is where you

1786
02:29:19,280 --> 02:29:23,520
go for additional resources. But here's the study questions, In

1787
02:29:23,600 --> 02:29:31,000
what way does Smith believe that the Democrat sort of

1788
02:29:31,040 --> 02:29:34,399
the Democratic administration he helped put into office as the

1789
02:29:34,479 --> 02:29:37,280
chair of that DNC has not been faithful to the

1790
02:29:37,280 --> 02:29:41,520
Democrat Party's platform of nineteen thirty two. Why does he

1791
02:29:41,639 --> 02:29:51,840
think the New Deal is somehow Russian Bolshevism and in

1792
02:29:52,000 --> 02:29:56,280
league with the Soviet Union? And what is he calling

1793
02:29:56,920 --> 02:30:03,760
his fellow Democrats and Republicans to do? That's a study

1794
02:30:03,840 --> 02:30:09,799
question maybe, I mean, anybody that needs it as a

1795
02:30:09,799 --> 02:30:12,079
study question, just read what I read. I don't know

1796
02:30:12,079 --> 02:30:14,200
if that's a question to you. I don't think you've

1797
02:30:14,239 --> 02:30:20,639
got a very prominent career in law I had. And

1798
02:30:20,680 --> 02:30:23,920
what does Smith's critique of the New Deal compared to

1799
02:30:24,000 --> 02:30:30,559
that of Herbert Hoover in his speech this Challenge to Liberty?

1800
02:30:32,079 --> 02:30:36,040
And how does it compare to the criticisms of one

1801
02:30:36,559 --> 02:30:42,600
Huey Long in his speech the Statement on the Share

1802
02:30:43,440 --> 02:30:51,920
of Our Wealth Society and Father Coughlan a Third Party?

1803
02:30:52,719 --> 02:30:55,719
A Challenge to Liberty by Hoover was written to nine.

1804
02:30:55,799 --> 02:31:00,399
It was given in nineteen thirty six. Huey Longs speech

1805
02:31:00,520 --> 02:31:05,239
December of nineteen thirty five, and Father Coughlan's a Third

1806
02:31:05,280 --> 02:31:11,719
Party in nineteen thirty six. What the fuck does Al Smith,

1807
02:31:13,239 --> 02:31:17,520
a Catholic and an Irishman, the chairman of the Democratic

1808
02:31:17,719 --> 02:31:31,840
National Committee, former Democratic presidential candidate Herbert Hoover, the previous

1809
02:31:31,920 --> 02:31:42,840
president Republican Huey Long. Like Huey Long is just Huey Long.

1810
02:31:42,920 --> 02:31:46,000
He's like you can't even call him like a member

1811
02:31:46,040 --> 02:31:48,959
of a party. Like he was a political force in

1812
02:31:49,000 --> 02:31:52,600
and of himself and he ran the state of Louis

1813
02:31:52,639 --> 02:31:59,719
Canada that way, What is Seewey Long, Al Smith, Herbert Hoover,

1814
02:32:00,879 --> 02:32:09,239
and Father Coughlin have in common? Your father Coughlin? Really?

1815
02:32:11,920 --> 02:32:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta yea yeah, strange Bedfellows, Right, I mean,

1816
02:32:16,719 --> 02:32:20,680
it's very It's a good question, and you know, I

1817
02:32:20,680 --> 02:32:25,280
think maybe even a better question at this point is, well,

1818
02:32:25,319 --> 02:32:28,000
what why don't we learn about this in school?

1819
02:32:29,319 --> 02:32:33,000
Speaker 2: Right? Like this? I mean you want to talk about bipartisanship, right, Like,

1820
02:32:33,040 --> 02:32:35,520
if this isn't a go, this isn't unity, I don't

1821
02:32:35,559 --> 02:32:45,200
know what is And what force was so strong that

1822
02:32:47,600 --> 02:33:03,399
Jack Morgan, now Rockefeller, John Braskin Irie and Pierre DuPont,

1823
02:33:03,799 --> 02:33:15,440
Al Smith, Huey Long, Father Conklin, Henry Ford, Like what's

1824
02:33:15,479 --> 02:33:16,399
more powerful than that?

1825
02:33:18,680 --> 02:33:20,760
Speaker 1: Yes, when you have this head, when you have the head.

1826
02:33:21,600 --> 02:33:21,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1827
02:33:21,799 --> 02:33:23,520
Speaker 1: When you have the head of Ford Motor Company and

1828
02:33:23,520 --> 02:33:29,239
the head of GM coming together to agree on something, yes, yep.

1829
02:33:31,479 --> 02:33:33,959
And this wasn't them coming together to be to a plot,

1830
02:33:34,000 --> 02:33:37,840
to be like, oh yeah, let's let's corner the market

1831
02:33:37,959 --> 02:33:41,879
on this and everything, no matter what Tucker wanted to say.

1832
02:33:42,079 --> 02:33:45,040
You know, ten years after this, fifteen years after this,

1833
02:33:45,559 --> 02:33:49,079
now this was something different. These this was something different.

1834
02:33:53,920 --> 02:33:56,760
Speaker 2: Where is my ancient Greek history, bros? Right now? Because

1835
02:33:56,760 --> 02:33:58,479
I'm pretty sure this is exactly what all the Greek

1836
02:33:58,559 --> 02:34:01,159
city states had to do. They did take a break

1837
02:34:01,159 --> 02:34:08,280
from killing each other when Xerxes showed up. Go ahead, Pete, Sorry.

1838
02:34:10,520 --> 02:34:21,760
Speaker 1: Well I was going to say when obviously, when you

1839
02:34:21,799 --> 02:34:24,559
look at this, you realize that this is a movement

1840
02:34:25,280 --> 02:34:31,239
that the people who they were going against realized had power,

1841
02:34:31,319 --> 02:34:34,600
had money behind it, had influence behind it. And then

1842
02:34:34,680 --> 02:34:39,040
you you, well, what's one way to just put a

1843
02:34:39,079 --> 02:34:45,200
bullet in this. Well, we've been attacked, we have to

1844
02:34:45,239 --> 02:34:49,399
go to war. If you don't all come together. Now, well,

1845
02:34:49,440 --> 02:34:52,120
you're I guess you're anti American. I guess you're on

1846
02:34:52,159 --> 02:34:53,799
the side. I guess you're on the side of the

1847
02:34:53,920 --> 02:34:56,319
Japanese or you're on the side. You're on the side

1848
02:34:56,319 --> 02:34:59,879
of the Germans, and well, well you know, or they

1849
02:35:00,040 --> 02:35:02,000
could have said you're on the side of the Soviets,

1850
02:35:02,040 --> 02:35:04,399
but no, they took the side of the Soviets. But

1851
02:35:04,840 --> 02:35:08,840
now how to start Not only he has to start

1852
02:35:08,840 --> 02:35:12,520
at too theater war, you just have two wars going

1853
02:35:12,559 --> 02:35:16,559
on just to stop this and just to shut them up.

1854
02:35:17,879 --> 02:35:21,360
And then after the war, what do you have? You

1855
02:35:21,399 --> 02:35:26,719
have the greatest propaganda campaign of all time, which basically

1856
02:35:26,799 --> 02:35:31,719
makes these men criminals monsters yep.

1857
02:35:35,840 --> 02:35:41,319
Speaker 2: Like if you think that these men were anything like that,

1858
02:35:41,360 --> 02:35:47,000
they how they were portrayed, just monster capitalists that only

1859
02:35:47,079 --> 02:35:58,079
cared about money. You don't know anything about money. I'm

1860
02:35:58,120 --> 02:36:06,319
not saying that I do. But I have led a

1861
02:36:06,399 --> 02:36:10,879
rather charmed life so far. I could get hit by

1862
02:36:10,879 --> 02:36:15,360
a bus tomorrow, so I'm going to add that caveat

1863
02:36:15,399 --> 02:36:20,520
in there, and I wouldn't be angry if I did.

1864
02:36:21,799 --> 02:36:27,000
But one thing, I have been able to observe both

1865
02:36:28,440 --> 02:36:32,319
a change in myself as I became more successful, and

1866
02:36:32,440 --> 02:36:40,399
also from observing those who had more success than a

1867
02:36:40,479 --> 02:36:47,879
one person could could possibly ask God for and not

1868
02:36:47,920 --> 02:36:54,879
feel like they were sinning those people. People that have

1869
02:36:56,200 --> 02:36:59,479
money that can't be spent right if you have let's

1870
02:36:59,479 --> 02:37:07,159
say fifty billion dollars right, and a reasonable reasonable rate

1871
02:37:07,200 --> 02:37:11,280
of return. And this is what lefties don't understand about money.

1872
02:37:12,920 --> 02:37:16,600
That is how interest works. And so let's say we

1873
02:37:16,760 --> 02:37:24,159
have fifty billion dollars one two three mm hmmm, I

1874
02:37:24,280 --> 02:37:35,799
have million one two three five billion times point? What

1875
02:37:38,440 --> 02:37:44,920
M one two three? So if you have fifty billion,

1876
02:37:47,600 --> 02:37:51,639
let's say the first year you act like an absolute maniac.

1877
02:37:53,440 --> 02:37:57,520
You don't just buy one jet. You buy three at

1878
02:37:57,520 --> 02:38:03,760
one hundred and fifty million a pop, sometimes more, depending

1879
02:38:04,879 --> 02:38:11,559
they started one hundred and fifty. And you buy not

1880
02:38:11,719 --> 02:38:18,399
one house, but you buy five, one in every place

1881
02:38:18,440 --> 02:38:22,319
you like coming right, one for every season, plus a

1882
02:38:22,360 --> 02:38:29,079
bonus one maybe, and you buy palatial estates, say thirty

1883
02:38:29,079 --> 02:38:31,920
to fifty million, right, So what is that? I'm up

1884
02:38:32,000 --> 02:38:35,760
to three four and a half, So four hundred and

1885
02:38:35,760 --> 02:38:41,360
fifty million plus another one hundred million in five houses,

1886
02:38:41,360 --> 02:38:45,959
so I might like five hundred and fifty million. What else?

1887
02:38:46,239 --> 02:38:48,680
What else do we need to buy? What could you

1888
02:38:48,719 --> 02:38:53,799
possibly think of? Maybe a yacht, a mega yacht? You

1889
02:38:53,840 --> 02:38:59,479
want megayacht? Okay, let's say, yeah, I don't like boats

1890
02:38:59,520 --> 02:39:03,840
all that much I'm a very bad WASP. I don't

1891
02:39:04,000 --> 02:39:06,760
I don't go sailing, I don't know how to sale,

1892
02:39:06,920 --> 02:39:09,959
and I'm terrible at golf. So like all of my

1893
02:39:10,120 --> 02:39:13,559
WASP credentials, like, it's a good thing. I'm very well

1894
02:39:13,600 --> 02:39:16,959
read and I speak well because all of my all

1895
02:39:17,000 --> 02:39:24,319
of my other WASP credentials, Like, it's pretty rough. Say

1896
02:39:24,319 --> 02:39:26,760
you buy another, but you buy a megabout one hundred

1897
02:39:26,760 --> 02:39:31,440
and fifty million, which I think is roughly what Bezos

1898
02:39:31,440 --> 02:39:34,280
spent on a Now I spent two hundred million. Let's

1899
02:39:34,319 --> 02:39:37,600
just say two hundred million. Fuck it, we're only seven

1900
02:39:37,719 --> 02:39:40,639
hundred and fifty million in. We haven't even cracked our

1901
02:39:40,639 --> 02:39:46,200
first billion yet. We haven't even cracked a billion dollars yet.

1902
02:39:47,680 --> 02:39:53,000
So that fifty billion dollars that earns an interest every

1903
02:39:53,120 --> 02:39:58,719
year at a reasonable rate of return ten percent probably,

1904
02:39:58,760 --> 02:40:02,159
I mean honestly, ultra low risk and probably to pull

1905
02:40:02,200 --> 02:40:04,159
five percent. But you're going to have to pull ten

1906
02:40:04,200 --> 02:40:09,319
now because you're losing five to inflation. Sorry, bouts. That's

1907
02:40:09,360 --> 02:40:15,840
five hundred million a year. So the crazy spending spree

1908
02:40:17,120 --> 02:40:21,360
that we just talked about, you would have to do

1909
02:40:21,399 --> 02:40:30,840
that every year. You can't. You couldn't, right it would

1910
02:40:30,840 --> 02:40:33,879
take you, you know, weeks and weeks and weeks just

1911
02:40:33,879 --> 02:40:38,200
to pick out the different leathers on one of the planes,

1912
02:40:38,319 --> 02:40:43,159
let alone three Right, you're like three months in just

1913
02:40:43,239 --> 02:40:51,719
inspecting jets, not even including the you know, the homes,

1914
02:40:52,000 --> 02:40:55,479
than the boat, got the fucking boat, every single thing

1915
02:40:55,879 --> 02:40:58,479
I think you you know, you see and or touch

1916
02:40:58,520 --> 02:41:01,319
on a boat, you get to pick like. You couldn't

1917
02:41:01,639 --> 02:41:05,479
spend the money fast enough, So you are earning more

1918
02:41:05,520 --> 02:41:09,440
money than it is humanly possible to spend and you're

1919
02:41:09,440 --> 02:41:14,760
not even touching the principle, right, So that fifty million

1920
02:41:14,920 --> 02:41:19,719
or fifty billion is never getting spent. And if you spent,

1921
02:41:20,399 --> 02:41:23,079
it would take every day of your life to do

1922
02:41:23,120 --> 02:41:26,440
nothing but try and figure out new ways, creative ways

1923
02:41:26,479 --> 02:41:31,079
to spend money, and you still wouldn't even be able

1924
02:41:31,079 --> 02:41:34,600
to burn through half a billion a year. Good God,

1925
02:41:35,479 --> 02:41:40,200
So these people to think that these people care about money,

1926
02:41:41,200 --> 02:41:48,000
do things for money, even talk about money. Any there's

1927
02:41:48,040 --> 02:41:53,280
a good rule. My dad taught it to me, and hopefully,

1928
02:41:53,440 --> 02:41:55,639
God willing, I will teach it to my son because

1929
02:41:55,639 --> 02:41:59,200
it served me very well in life. Anybody that talks

1930
02:41:59,200 --> 02:42:06,399
about money doesn't fucking have any So to think that

1931
02:42:06,520 --> 02:42:12,079
any of these men did anything because of money to

1932
02:42:12,120 --> 02:42:21,680
make more money. You simply don't understand wealth. What motivates

1933
02:42:21,719 --> 02:42:30,680
these men? If I could think of any remotely tangential

1934
02:42:31,120 --> 02:42:36,639
I'm sorry, tangential motivator that had anything to do with

1935
02:42:36,719 --> 02:42:41,559
money would be capital preservation. Right, you could probably get

1936
02:42:41,600 --> 02:42:45,200
these guys to do stuff to protect what they already have.

1937
02:42:46,040 --> 02:42:49,360
But if you think they're going to do, you know,

1938
02:42:50,120 --> 02:42:53,399
political machinations that could end them up and them in jail,

1939
02:42:54,200 --> 02:42:59,360
or hurt their legacy, tarnish their reputation. These men valued

1940
02:42:59,440 --> 02:43:04,719
reputation and standing far more than they valued money, and

1941
02:43:04,799 --> 02:43:08,319
so would you. I know it sounds ridiculous, It sounds

1942
02:43:08,360 --> 02:43:13,440
ridiculous to you. But if you're the guy that is in,

1943
02:43:13,719 --> 02:43:17,680
you know, in that hypothetical situation that I had to

1944
02:43:17,760 --> 02:43:22,440
fucking pull out my calculator for because I'm retarded, If

1945
02:43:22,440 --> 02:43:27,639
you're that guy, he doesn't care about money. He probably

1946
02:43:27,680 --> 02:43:31,040
cares a hell of a lot more about what people

1947
02:43:31,079 --> 02:43:37,920
think of him, how he's perceived, than some investment or

1948
02:43:37,959 --> 02:43:40,639
a chance to make more money that what he can't spend.

1949
02:43:43,520 --> 02:43:48,000
So when you look at these guys like Elon Right

1950
02:43:48,760 --> 02:43:55,280
and recent Fiel, you think money motivates them. You're nuts.

1951
02:43:56,040 --> 02:44:00,399
You don't understand money. Granted, I wish that they would

1952
02:44:00,440 --> 02:44:03,760
take a page out of the book of the great

1953
02:44:03,799 --> 02:44:06,680
men that came before them, because now all they are

1954
02:44:06,799 --> 02:44:13,959
is just nerds with money. That makes me sad. You know,

1955
02:44:16,239 --> 02:44:18,280
Elon wants to go to Mars because he wants to

1956
02:44:18,319 --> 02:44:21,799
go to Mars, not because he wants humanity to be

1957
02:44:21,799 --> 02:44:27,799
a space faring nation, right or America, you know, to

1958
02:44:27,840 --> 02:44:33,120
dominate Mars as our next like he that is tertiary.

1959
02:44:33,440 --> 02:44:37,760
Maybe he wants to go to space because Elon Musk

1960
02:44:37,799 --> 02:44:43,399
wants to go to space. So the one thing that

1961
02:44:43,479 --> 02:44:52,680
I wish that are rich nerds would look back in

1962
02:44:52,760 --> 02:44:56,600
time and see and I understand why they haven't because

1963
02:44:56,680 --> 02:44:59,440
the history of these men, what these men were really like,

1964
02:44:59,760 --> 02:45:03,959
has been hidden. The only reason I know about it

1965
02:45:04,000 --> 02:45:09,079
is because these are family stories, right, Like Pete, you

1966
02:45:09,159 --> 02:45:14,079
know a bit about me in my private life. This

1967
02:45:14,239 --> 02:45:17,040
is relevant to me, and that's why I know it.

1968
02:45:19,399 --> 02:45:21,680
So I can't get angry at anybody for not knowing

1969
02:45:21,719 --> 02:45:23,920
what these men were actually like when everything that's written

1970
02:45:23,959 --> 02:45:30,280
about them is a fucking lie. But now that we're

1971
02:45:30,319 --> 02:45:34,200
starting to clear up the record, right looking back with

1972
02:45:34,559 --> 02:45:40,840
clear eyes and sound judgment and a level of discernment

1973
02:45:41,159 --> 02:45:49,760
that we did not previously have until certain ethnocentric machinations

1974
02:45:49,799 --> 02:45:53,440
were revealed to us. However, I mean, we each got

1975
02:45:53,520 --> 02:46:01,879
here different ways, but now that we have, we need

1976
02:46:01,879 --> 02:46:04,319
to hold our relief to a higher standard, because if

1977
02:46:04,319 --> 02:46:09,280
you have fifty billion dollars, it's not about you anymore.

1978
02:46:12,920 --> 02:46:19,479
Right back to that four letter word, that is the founding,

1979
02:46:20,120 --> 02:46:25,920
the central pillar of our society. Right we live in

1980
02:46:26,000 --> 02:46:30,360
the house built for us by better men. We just

1981
02:46:30,399 --> 02:46:35,600
fucking live here. We didn't build it, they did. We

1982
02:46:35,760 --> 02:46:39,159
just get to hang out in it and stop people

1983
02:46:39,159 --> 02:46:44,159
from tearing it down. But when we compare ourselves to them,

1984
02:46:45,000 --> 02:46:52,920
these men, our elites, don't stack up that great. Our

1985
02:46:53,000 --> 02:46:58,319
rich men are just rich men, and that's sad. So

1986
02:46:58,360 --> 02:47:06,159
I hope that they familiarize themselves with these great men

1987
02:47:06,200 --> 02:47:16,520
who've been slandered to just an insane degree, and how

1988
02:47:16,600 --> 02:47:18,760
much they've been slandered should tell you a lot about

1989
02:47:18,799 --> 02:47:23,799
how great they were. I don't want Musk to build

1990
02:47:25,079 --> 02:47:28,000
a public library in every town like Andrew Carnegie did.

1991
02:47:29,319 --> 02:47:37,680
I don't want Peter Thiol to build twenty five hundred churches.

1992
02:47:38,680 --> 02:47:45,840
In every city in America because that's already been done.

1993
02:47:46,079 --> 02:47:54,680
But I want them to look. Sorry, I suck at

1994
02:47:54,680 --> 02:47:59,959
swallowing today, I want them to look at these men

1995
02:48:00,719 --> 02:48:05,879
for inspiration to do something different. Dare I say better?

1996
02:48:07,200 --> 02:48:11,239
It'll be hard to do, you know, one up of

1997
02:48:11,280 --> 02:48:21,200
these guys, but it's a worthy pursuit. And I bet

1998
02:48:21,200 --> 02:48:24,200
you America in the state it is now if you

1999
02:48:24,239 --> 02:48:28,360
look at how it's embraced Donald Trump, we are desperate,

2000
02:48:31,079 --> 02:48:36,200
Like desperate doesn't like it. It almost isn't like a

2001
02:48:36,239 --> 02:48:40,760
strong enough word, but we are desperate for nobility. And

2002
02:48:40,799 --> 02:48:43,520
if you look back in the time that this was happening,

2003
02:48:44,959 --> 02:48:48,639
America loved these men. You can be a rich nerd

2004
02:48:48,840 --> 02:48:52,319
cool like nobody knows you. This is why you're scared

2005
02:48:52,319 --> 02:48:56,920
of dying. You're throwing millions and millions and millions of

2006
02:48:56,959 --> 02:49:00,200
dollars into biotech research to squeeze days and days is

2007
02:49:00,239 --> 02:49:12,200
more life because you're scared of dying. All right, if

2008
02:49:12,200 --> 02:49:18,399
you know you're gonna be remembered and loved for what,

2009
02:49:18,559 --> 02:49:20,680
Like it's two hundred years almost and we're still talking

2010
02:49:20,719 --> 02:49:22,479
about one hundred years and we're still talking to these men.

2011
02:49:22,520 --> 02:49:29,479
We'll be talking about him for another hundred more. Like you're immortal.

2012
02:49:32,159 --> 02:49:34,440
You don't have to be like that guy who's like

2013
02:49:34,520 --> 02:49:37,879
sticking his dick in a freezer. All right, whatever his

2014
02:49:37,959 --> 02:49:43,559
name is, something Johnson a fitting name, right for a

2015
02:49:43,600 --> 02:49:49,000
guy trying to reverse his age, fucking Hubris the Pride.

2016
02:49:50,360 --> 02:49:52,600
But really all it is is just he's scared of dying,

2017
02:49:56,920 --> 02:50:00,600
probably because he's gonna have to meet God, and when

2018
02:50:00,600 --> 02:50:03,760
that happens, he's going to have to tell him what

2019
02:50:03,840 --> 02:50:06,639
he did with the most precious gift that he was given,

2020
02:50:08,040 --> 02:50:12,639
and he won't have much to say.

2021
02:50:12,680 --> 02:50:17,600
Speaker 1: This is this is part of the reason, and a

2022
02:50:17,600 --> 02:50:20,959
lot of the reason, I would say probably if you

2023
02:50:21,000 --> 02:50:22,840
really want to look back on at the majority of

2024
02:50:22,840 --> 02:50:26,639
the reason that you're not allowed to live historically anymore,

2025
02:50:28,079 --> 02:50:31,120
then you you're not allowed to. I mean, if you're

2026
02:50:31,159 --> 02:50:38,600
not allowed to, if you're dissuaded, if you're told it's

2027
02:50:38,719 --> 02:50:43,280
wrong to look upon your ancestors and have pride in

2028
02:50:43,319 --> 02:50:47,760
them and know and celebrate their accomplishments, how much less

2029
02:50:47,959 --> 02:50:53,200
the accomplishments of people you don't know. So it's just

2030
02:50:53,280 --> 02:50:58,799
a it's just another mechanism for destroying our civilization and

2031
02:50:58,840 --> 02:51:04,000
destroying what can before us, making us believe that everything

2032
02:51:04,040 --> 02:51:06,760
that happened back at this time, Oh, this was such

2033
02:51:06,799 --> 02:51:09,120
a terrible time to live. There were these people who

2034
02:51:09,520 --> 02:51:11,399
all they wanted to do was get rich, and they

2035
02:51:11,399 --> 02:51:15,680
would do they would do anything to gain to gain

2036
02:51:15,760 --> 02:51:18,840
wealth and gain power. And then when you look and

2037
02:51:18,879 --> 02:51:22,399
you find out that they saw what was coming down

2038
02:51:22,440 --> 02:51:27,200
the line, they saw, you know, the takeover by a

2039
02:51:27,319 --> 02:51:32,840
foreign entity, and they tried to do everything they could

2040
02:51:32,920 --> 02:51:37,680
to stop it. And it was only because of you know,

2041
02:51:37,760 --> 02:51:44,479
a soldier who you know, killed Haitians and you know

2042
02:51:44,559 --> 02:51:49,600
actually in the field serves as country well from everything

2043
02:51:49,639 --> 02:51:52,680
I've read, But when it came down to it, he

2044
02:51:52,799 --> 02:51:57,840
was a fucking comy. Yeah, and he sided with the commies.

2045
02:51:58,159 --> 02:52:01,159
Speaker 2: You know what's funny is that a rare bit of

2046
02:52:01,319 --> 02:52:05,360
justice was served. He lived to regret it. He lived

2047
02:52:05,360 --> 02:52:08,639
to see it. The thing that Smdley Butther was so

2048
02:52:08,760 --> 02:52:15,280
desperately afraid of was World War One happening again. And

2049
02:52:15,319 --> 02:52:22,200
the very man that he betrayed to FDR. We're trying

2050
02:52:22,239 --> 02:52:25,000
to stop the thing that he was so afraid of,

2051
02:52:26,399 --> 02:52:31,000
and he sacrificed all those men. Right. What happened to

2052
02:52:31,200 --> 02:52:37,680
Father Coughlin, What happened to Henry Ford, right, These men

2053
02:52:37,760 --> 02:52:44,079
were killed, right, just like the guy freezing his dick

2054
02:52:44,120 --> 02:52:48,719
off right now, he's scared of dying because he doesn't

2055
02:52:48,840 --> 02:52:54,680
have a legacy, right, He's never going to have immortality.

2056
02:52:56,079 --> 02:53:01,159
So they killed these men's memories off, which I think

2057
02:53:01,239 --> 02:53:02,920
is far works.

2058
02:53:05,120 --> 02:53:08,040
Speaker 1: And here we long, and here we long. They killed. Yeah,

2059
02:53:08,040 --> 02:53:12,959
they assassinated he a tribesman. A tribesman assassinated him.

2060
02:53:14,159 --> 02:53:18,639
Speaker 2: There's a Without talking myself, I think I've told you this, Pete,

2061
02:53:18,680 --> 02:53:24,959
but there is a very widely shared suspicion and rumor

2062
02:53:25,000 --> 02:53:29,040
in my family that a similar man, at a similar

2063
02:53:29,079 --> 02:53:35,920
time and a similar mission was also killed. There's a

2064
02:53:35,959 --> 02:53:39,159
lot of killing. I think that was done in the

2065
02:53:39,239 --> 02:53:41,360
lead up to World War two to make it happen.

2066
02:53:44,040 --> 02:53:46,799
I think it's no different than what we saw in

2067
02:53:46,799 --> 02:53:51,040
the sixties. Right. If these people are willing to kill

2068
02:53:51,200 --> 02:53:57,479
to keep that little place, we have to assume that

2069
02:53:57,520 --> 02:54:03,959
they were willing to kill to get it. And Smedley

2070
02:54:04,000 --> 02:54:10,840
Butler got to live long enough to try and give

2071
02:54:10,920 --> 02:54:18,600
speeches against FDR once the man did what he because remember,

2072
02:54:18,680 --> 02:54:22,559
like FDR was campaigning on not taking just like fucking

2073
02:54:22,600 --> 02:54:28,920
Wilson campaigning on what was Wilson's campaign speech, I will

2074
02:54:28,920 --> 02:54:33,280
not be sending or his campaign slogan like I won't

2075
02:54:33,319 --> 02:54:38,440
be sending our boys off to some war. Right. His

2076
02:54:39,440 --> 02:54:42,559
re election thing was Wilson he kept us out of

2077
02:54:42,559 --> 02:54:48,879
war for his first term, But what he didn't tell

2078
02:54:48,920 --> 02:54:51,360
everybody is that he was already planning getting us into it.

2079
02:54:52,520 --> 02:54:56,479
He just needed his second term. And that's what FDR did.

2080
02:54:57,479 --> 02:55:04,239
So the man that Smedley Butler saved, all right, and

2081
02:55:04,280 --> 02:55:11,200
betrayed men that trusted him, he saved because he'd bought

2082
02:55:12,600 --> 02:55:14,840
that FDR actually wanted to keep us out of war.

2083
02:55:16,600 --> 02:55:19,760
And less than two years after he did it, after

2084
02:55:19,760 --> 02:55:21,719
he betrayed all these men, he lived to see that

2085
02:55:21,719 --> 02:55:25,159
they were right and that he was wrong. So I

2086
02:55:25,200 --> 02:55:30,879
don't know what Smedley Butler's death was like, but I

2087
02:55:30,920 --> 02:55:37,079
can't imagine it was good because I believe, like at

2088
02:55:37,079 --> 02:55:44,879
the point that you're dying rights as that's happening, kind

2089
02:55:44,920 --> 02:55:52,559
of the veil things between our world and theirs. And

2090
02:55:52,639 --> 02:55:56,680
from what I've heard, from what I've read in the accounts,

2091
02:55:57,879 --> 02:56:03,840
that how a man like you know, if a man

2092
02:56:05,799 --> 02:56:11,159
lives a certain way, when he dies, you know, his

2093
02:56:11,280 --> 02:56:14,559
flesh will be will begin to be clawed at before

2094
02:56:15,360 --> 02:56:18,799
he actually passes. This is why some men die screaming.

2095
02:56:21,799 --> 02:56:24,840
And if you live a different way, that doesn't happen

2096
02:56:24,879 --> 02:56:32,000
to you. In fact, the opposite happens to you. There

2097
02:56:32,040 --> 02:56:40,479
are those that die smiling and calm and happy content

2098
02:56:41,799 --> 02:56:44,959
And I don't think he was content when he died,

2099
02:56:45,799 --> 02:56:52,879
because hundreds of thousands of American boys were being turned

2100
02:56:52,879 --> 02:57:02,639
into mulch because of him. Would never be the same again.

2101
02:57:06,760 --> 02:57:13,399
It would be I don't know, trying to think of

2102
02:57:13,440 --> 02:57:17,559
a better word than you know, like the body snatchers.

2103
02:57:18,079 --> 02:57:23,760
But that's what happened all because of him. And it

2104
02:57:23,840 --> 02:57:30,959
was pride if you read and encourage everyone to. After

2105
02:57:31,079 --> 02:57:39,719
Smithley Butler gave his testimony to the Senate, he did

2106
02:57:39,719 --> 02:57:42,760
a public announcement kind of like Roosevelt's fireside chat. The

2107
02:57:42,799 --> 02:57:47,520
TV and the radio is just like a thing, and

2108
02:57:49,760 --> 02:57:53,639
it's recorded. It's really good at least the recording quality

2109
02:57:53,680 --> 02:57:59,920
this is really good. And you basically see this man

2110
02:58:00,079 --> 02:58:06,479
and so proud of himself for what he did, and

2111
02:58:06,600 --> 02:58:08,600
like you could just you could just see this man

2112
02:58:09,000 --> 02:58:13,520
this he was fucking smug, like I did this because

2113
02:58:13,559 --> 02:58:15,840
I'm a great American and da da da da da

2114
02:58:15,920 --> 02:58:18,719
da da da da, and it just smacks of pride.

2115
02:58:18,719 --> 02:58:23,920
It's it's really kind of painful to watch. And anyways,

2116
02:58:26,639 --> 02:58:30,120
he thought that it was his, you know, he was

2117
02:58:30,159 --> 02:58:33,040
saving the country by turning in these traders. It was like,

2118
02:58:33,159 --> 02:58:36,479
you know, it all hinged on him. It turns out

2119
02:58:36,520 --> 02:58:40,440
he was the one that handed the country over two monsters,

2120
02:58:41,280 --> 02:58:45,280
the monsters that these men were terrified of enough to

2121
02:58:45,319 --> 02:58:53,000
where they would reach out to their sworn enemies, and

2122
02:58:53,079 --> 02:58:58,600
their sworn enemies would reach out to them and they

2123
02:58:58,600 --> 02:59:00,920
would come together to try and fight it. And he

2124
02:59:01,000 --> 02:59:06,319
was too fucking stupid to ever think because before he

2125
02:59:06,360 --> 02:59:09,399
did turn thement, he before he did go public, he

2126
02:59:09,440 --> 02:59:13,879
did spend probably the last six months before he brought

2127
02:59:13,920 --> 02:59:16,479
the like he even brought in like a journalist's rent

2128
02:59:16,520 --> 02:59:22,639
to document it, you know, these meetings, because he needed

2129
02:59:22,680 --> 02:59:25,000
an extra credibility. He thought nobody was going to believe him.

2130
02:59:25,120 --> 02:59:30,879
He was literally planning like his book tour. Basically, he

2131
02:59:30,920 --> 02:59:33,799
brought a writer along with him to document, you know,

2132
02:59:34,600 --> 02:59:38,120
his detective work in finding out who all of these

2133
02:59:38,159 --> 02:59:41,360
people were. You know, he literally thought he was you know,

2134
02:59:41,719 --> 02:59:46,479
James Bond hadn't been invented yet. But anyways, that's the guy,

2135
02:59:47,239 --> 02:59:52,479
and so many of our I wouldn't say our guys entirely,

2136
02:59:52,559 --> 02:59:57,000
but I do see it occasionally glorify this man. They

2137
02:59:57,079 --> 03:00:02,200
all go around talking about, you know, war is a racket. No,

2138
03:00:02,399 --> 03:00:08,040
war is a diversion. In this instance, all right, Smedley

2139
03:00:08,079 --> 03:00:13,040
Butler didn't see the racket. He was the useful idiot.

2140
03:00:15,200 --> 03:00:22,840
So I don't want a man with that just deficit

2141
03:00:22,879 --> 03:00:26,000
of judgment to tell me what is a racket and

2142
03:00:26,040 --> 03:00:29,639
what is not, because he clearly can't see one when

2143
03:00:29,680 --> 03:00:32,920
one is staring him in the face. So I don't

2144
03:00:33,000 --> 03:00:35,600
think Smedley Butler is qualified to tell any of us

2145
03:00:36,319 --> 03:00:42,600
anything except I guess how to blindly betray your country

2146
03:00:45,200 --> 03:00:56,600
and sentence the nation's progeny for three generations to vampirism.

2147
03:01:00,879 --> 03:01:07,559
Because that's what happened after these guys were gone. Nobody,

2148
03:01:08,040 --> 03:01:14,799
no rich men built any more churches, no one built

2149
03:01:14,799 --> 03:01:20,000
public libraries anymore. The whole concept of a public library

2150
03:01:20,920 --> 03:01:26,639
didn't exist. Like there were university libraries that sometimes people

2151
03:01:26,719 --> 03:01:33,399
regular people could go to, But the idea of a

2152
03:01:33,479 --> 03:01:37,079
library of building just full of books for you and

2153
03:01:37,159 --> 03:01:44,319
your small town in Minnesota just for you. Why, Because

2154
03:01:44,360 --> 03:01:50,959
you're an American. That's why you deserve unlimited knowledge. We

2155
03:01:51,000 --> 03:01:52,920
want you to have every book there is to have,

2156
03:01:52,959 --> 03:01:55,360
and if it doesn't have it, tell the lady at

2157
03:01:55,360 --> 03:02:00,120
the counter and she'll get it for you in a week.

2158
03:02:01,840 --> 03:02:11,799
Like that didn't exist anywhere, and it never existed again

2159
03:02:11,840 --> 03:02:18,440
thanks to him, because no rich men after this ever

2160
03:02:18,520 --> 03:02:21,719
did anything like it, because the type of men that

2161
03:02:21,760 --> 03:02:27,799
were allowed to be rich were different. They sure as

2162
03:02:27,799 --> 03:02:29,040
fuck weren't great.

2163
03:02:30,280 --> 03:02:35,120
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's also when you, even if you

2164
03:02:35,159 --> 03:02:39,159
do have the idea to do something, knowing what's gonna

2165
03:02:39,760 --> 03:02:40,959
brain down upon you?

2166
03:02:41,479 --> 03:02:48,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what's your incentive to be great? Now? Holy

2167
03:02:48,120 --> 03:02:54,159
hell coming down on you like that? Like that's American policy.

2168
03:02:54,239 --> 03:02:58,559
Now we tear down those that are great because their

2169
03:02:58,600 --> 03:03:02,719
greatness exposes the weakness of everybody else. So they must

2170
03:03:02,760 --> 03:03:14,600
be destroyed and we need and so you know that

2171
03:03:14,639 --> 03:03:18,360
I have like a I think a friend that was

2172
03:03:18,399 --> 03:03:23,000
a was a you know, a political person a long

2173
03:03:23,079 --> 03:03:29,280
time you know person in Congress was vment Danti Trumper.

2174
03:03:30,520 --> 03:03:33,120
Speaker 1: Yep, I am, yep. I know exactly what you're talking about.

2175
03:03:34,719 --> 03:03:37,280
Speaker 2: And do you want to know why he I already

2176
03:03:37,319 --> 03:03:41,879
told you why that this man went from the most

2177
03:03:41,959 --> 03:03:46,280
vment d anti Trumper. He has quite a platform, uh,

2178
03:03:47,719 --> 03:03:54,959
to the I would probably say, no man in DC

2179
03:03:55,239 --> 03:03:58,680
believes in Donald Trump like this man. And this man

2180
03:03:58,719 --> 03:04:01,680
has known politics since he was like twelve. He was

2181
03:04:01,680 --> 03:04:05,600
involved in, like literally involved in like you say it,

2182
03:04:05,719 --> 03:04:07,040
staying at the YMCA.

2183
03:04:08,920 --> 03:04:11,639
Speaker 1: So everyone would know this person. Everyone would know this

2184
03:04:11,680 --> 03:04:14,799
person's name even if you weren't alive when he was,

2185
03:04:15,680 --> 03:04:18,000
you know, in a very prominent position.

2186
03:04:18,760 --> 03:04:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, this person said, when asked by other people of like,

2187
03:04:27,360 --> 03:04:31,360
you know, similar stature, why how he could possibly support

2188
03:04:31,360 --> 03:04:35,639
Donald Trump. And when we're talking about holy hell raining

2189
03:04:35,719 --> 03:04:38,239
down on you, you could say whatever you want about Donald Trump.

2190
03:04:39,000 --> 03:04:45,479
But this guy said, I've studied, like I've studied and

2191
03:04:45,520 --> 03:04:47,760
been a part of politics and American politics all of

2192
03:04:47,840 --> 03:04:54,920
my life, and I've never seen any presidential candidate, any president,

2193
03:04:55,959 --> 03:04:58,840
do what Donald Trump has done. He said, It's like

2194
03:04:58,879 --> 03:05:07,920
something out of a history book. Yeah, Donald Trump after

2195
03:05:07,959 --> 03:05:11,399
his first term could have And this is why this

2196
03:05:11,520 --> 03:05:16,760
guy didn't. Wasn't a big supporter of him until I

2197
03:05:16,760 --> 03:05:20,959
would probably say the lawfair started right when all the

2198
03:05:20,959 --> 03:05:24,559
court cases, the felony started just raining down on Donald Trump.

2199
03:05:25,639 --> 03:05:30,280
That's when this guy had his conversion, because he said

2200
03:05:30,760 --> 03:05:38,719
that every single president of his lifetime, he could pretty

2201
03:05:38,799 --> 03:05:44,440
much kind of guess all of his acts, basically how

2202
03:05:44,479 --> 03:05:48,120
they would act in any given situation, in any adversarious situation.

2203
03:05:48,239 --> 03:05:51,479
He said, I never guessed what Donald Trump did. Like

2204
03:05:51,559 --> 03:05:55,239
Donald Trump could be He could spend the rest of

2205
03:05:55,280 --> 03:06:00,479
his days out on one of the many eaches he

2206
03:06:00,520 --> 03:06:04,799
probably owns outside of mar Alango, which is on the

2207
03:06:04,959 --> 03:06:08,159
which is on the beach, right, Or he could be

2208
03:06:08,159 --> 03:06:10,239
playing golf at any one of the resorts that he

2209
03:06:10,360 --> 03:06:17,559
owns right to bear his name. He could be in

2210
03:06:17,719 --> 03:06:24,360
beautiful castles, stunning beach resorts, being served on handed foot,

2211
03:06:24,760 --> 03:06:31,799
surrounded by his big, gorgeous family. Right, his beautiful wife

2212
03:06:33,360 --> 03:06:40,559
like Millennia's hot, his gorgeous kids right, all of his

2213
03:06:40,600 --> 03:06:46,959
sons are fucking studs. His daughter's hot like just cranking

2214
03:06:47,040 --> 03:06:52,559
out even more handsome grandchildren. Just a man at the

2215
03:06:52,600 --> 03:06:56,319
pinnacle of success, surrounded by loved ones all the time.

2216
03:06:59,200 --> 03:07:01,879
And not only is he risking all of that as

2217
03:07:01,920 --> 03:07:08,760
he put all of that on the line, but not

2218
03:07:08,879 --> 03:07:12,600
just him, because not only will Donald Trump be destroyed

2219
03:07:13,680 --> 03:07:23,239
and everything stripped away from him, this political guy knows it.

2220
03:07:23,760 --> 03:07:29,200
I know it, Pete knows it. You know it. That

2221
03:07:29,200 --> 03:07:37,680
they'll destroy his kids too. They'll probably destroy his grandkids.

2222
03:07:38,879 --> 03:07:41,559
They may not throw them in jail like they would him,

2223
03:07:42,879 --> 03:07:47,360
but they will strip away every single bit of inheritance.

2224
03:07:47,399 --> 03:07:55,479
They would have gotten every dollar, all the legacy. And

2225
03:07:56,719 --> 03:07:58,879
I can't even imagine what Donald Trump's kids would be

2226
03:07:58,920 --> 03:08:01,360
like if he lost, Like what their life would be like,

2227
03:08:03,280 --> 03:08:06,079
because it's not just like not being rich anymore, because

2228
03:08:06,120 --> 03:08:08,239
that wouldn't be it. It would be worse than that.

2229
03:08:09,680 --> 03:08:16,760
The regime is sadistic. The regime hates like we hate

2230
03:08:17,879 --> 03:08:21,600
the regime, but that's the regime started that we didn't

2231
03:08:21,639 --> 03:08:29,079
start that, you know, they had first. But they hate.

2232
03:08:29,200 --> 03:08:32,280
The regime hates nothing more than it hates Donald Trump.

2233
03:08:33,520 --> 03:08:40,120
It would destroy his kids, his grandkids. And this man

2234
03:08:41,239 --> 03:08:45,600
is willing to put it all on the line, not

2235
03:08:45,639 --> 03:08:49,680
for any reward. Right like, Donald Trump's life doesn't get better.

2236
03:08:50,879 --> 03:08:57,120
He spends the last couple of years basically working for

2237
03:08:57,200 --> 03:09:04,120
shitty pay, not fucking golfing and resorts or like chilling

2238
03:09:04,159 --> 03:09:08,959
on some fucking beach. The White House is shitty inside.

2239
03:09:09,040 --> 03:09:13,399
Anyone who's been inside. It's an old building it fucking

2240
03:09:13,440 --> 03:09:20,239
smells like it. It's gross. Because he believes that he

2241
03:09:20,239 --> 03:09:25,360
can make America better. That's why he believes it. Whether

2242
03:09:25,440 --> 03:09:28,719
you say, like, oh, like you know, he's he's compromising

2243
03:09:28,799 --> 03:09:32,200
this way or that way, whatever, like that's your opinion.

2244
03:09:33,520 --> 03:09:37,719
In certain parts, I'd probably agree with you. But he

2245
03:09:38,680 --> 03:09:42,319
believes that he can make the country better, and he

2246
03:09:42,479 --> 03:09:46,639
is willing to risk everything in his life and his

2247
03:09:46,760 --> 03:09:50,879
children's life, his entire legacy, that immortality that we were

2248
03:09:50,879 --> 03:09:55,440
talking about, Yeah, that's gone. They will they will destroy

2249
03:09:55,559 --> 03:09:57,440
him worse than they destroyed any of the men that

2250
03:09:57,479 --> 03:10:03,840
I mentioned. And that's what made this man a convert's

2251
03:10:04,120 --> 03:10:09,200
He's the most fucking vehement Trumper I've ever met, more

2252
03:10:09,239 --> 03:10:14,920
than me because he knows history more than me. He

2253
03:10:15,000 --> 03:10:19,799
knows political history more than me. That's why. And if

2254
03:10:19,799 --> 03:10:25,719
Donald Trump can do it, you know, this fucking kind

2255
03:10:25,760 --> 03:10:30,959
of you know, rough around the edges, you know, not exactly.

2256
03:10:31,959 --> 03:10:34,680
It's a good thing Donald Trump owned, you know, built

2257
03:10:34,719 --> 03:10:36,719
the nowns a lot of country clubs because he fucking

2258
03:10:36,719 --> 03:10:43,159
wouldn't get invited to many. All right, He's from Queens.

2259
03:10:43,200 --> 03:10:47,639
He's kind of poorish, at least from the standing of

2260
03:10:48,479 --> 03:10:52,959
people that run country clubs. So if he can do it,

2261
03:10:53,520 --> 03:10:56,520
if he's willing to be like this, I think Elon

2262
03:10:56,680 --> 03:11:01,200
is just starting to get there. But every single one

2263
03:11:01,239 --> 03:11:03,680
of those men, the men that we talked about, they

2264
03:11:03,719 --> 03:11:05,840
would do what Donald Trump did in a heartbeat, and

2265
03:11:05,879 --> 03:11:09,159
most of them did. And they were just business men.

2266
03:11:09,280 --> 03:11:15,360
They were just rich guys. So if you're a man

2267
03:11:15,399 --> 03:11:21,680
of meetings, it's your duty to do what Donald Trump did,

2268
03:11:24,239 --> 03:11:27,760
all right, just like every single one of these There's

2269
03:11:27,799 --> 03:11:35,280
a listener that Pete, Pete told me about, and I'll

2270
03:11:35,280 --> 03:11:43,959
close this off on on him. Even though he went

2271
03:11:44,200 --> 03:11:51,200
to a prep school that was the the school he

2272
03:11:51,280 --> 03:11:57,200
went to should make him my sworn enemy, because his

2273
03:11:57,239 --> 03:12:05,879
school was the sworn enemy of mine. H We had

2274
03:12:05,920 --> 03:12:11,479
men that would be like Mike Frederick.

2275
03:12:13,200 --> 03:12:13,280
Speaker 12: T.

2276
03:12:13,920 --> 03:12:21,280
Speaker 2: Davison or f Trueby Davison depending all right, when you

2277
03:12:21,360 --> 03:12:26,399
talk about like American aristocracy, this guy was one of them.

2278
03:12:26,600 --> 03:12:28,879
He's a Yale guy. I won't hold that against him,

2279
03:12:30,200 --> 03:12:36,520
all right, scone bones kid like probably the most privilege

2280
03:12:36,559 --> 03:12:46,680
of privileged classes, and even you know, even as a kid,

2281
03:12:47,399 --> 03:12:50,159
and he wouldn't have been able to do this unless

2282
03:12:50,200 --> 03:12:54,319
his parents didn't think it was his duty. So Davison

2283
03:12:54,399 --> 03:12:57,319
was the founder of the Yale the first Yale Unit

2284
03:12:57,760 --> 03:13:02,000
or first Yale Air unit. So when I mentioned that

2285
03:13:02,079 --> 03:13:08,639
those young men in the previous episode that had everything right,

2286
03:13:08,799 --> 03:13:16,319
not at the world was their oyster, what did they

2287
03:13:16,360 --> 03:13:21,680
do when America got into a conflict and what did

2288
03:13:21,680 --> 03:13:26,600
their fathers do? Yes, their fathers were too old to

2289
03:13:26,600 --> 03:13:30,520
fight when World War two where World War one came around,

2290
03:13:31,319 --> 03:13:35,840
and now every single one of us would not let

2291
03:13:35,879 --> 03:13:42,159
our children anywhere near recruitment office. But this was different

2292
03:13:42,200 --> 03:13:47,239
times and these were different men. So Davison was the

2293
03:13:47,319 --> 03:13:51,799
founder of that air club that I talked about. America's

2294
03:13:51,840 --> 03:13:56,479
first air force was young men from Yale and their

2295
03:13:56,520 --> 03:14:02,760
personal planes, right, And most of them didn't come back.

2296
03:14:03,440 --> 03:14:07,600
Luckily for us, Truby did come back, but I bet

2297
03:14:07,600 --> 03:14:13,520
most of his friends didn't. So we had elites that

2298
03:14:14,879 --> 03:14:20,440
made sure that their sons not only served, but served

2299
03:14:20,440 --> 03:14:26,479
in combat led men. Right. So these great men were

2300
03:14:26,479 --> 03:14:36,479
willing to risk their legacy right their offspring. It doesn't say,

2301
03:14:36,559 --> 03:14:39,799
but I'm pretty sure Trupy was probably the eldest son

2302
03:14:43,040 --> 03:14:48,280
because he you know, he Usually when young men go

2303
03:14:48,440 --> 03:14:52,920
by their first initial and their middle name, usually it's

2304
03:14:53,000 --> 03:14:56,440
because somebody else in the family is also named that,

2305
03:14:56,799 --> 03:15:00,559
right like Jack is just short for John and John

2306
03:15:02,319 --> 03:15:07,760
JP Morgan his dad was Pierpont, so he didn't want

2307
03:15:07,799 --> 03:15:14,280
to go by John Pierpont. This won by JP. I

2308
03:15:14,600 --> 03:15:21,319
imagine mister Davison, it probably it probably worried him sick

2309
03:15:23,120 --> 03:15:26,879
sending his boys to war, especially something as risky as

2310
03:15:26,920 --> 03:15:33,440
a fucking airplane back in those days. But I bet

2311
03:15:33,520 --> 03:15:37,680
you he didn't think twice about it, just as like

2312
03:15:38,600 --> 03:15:45,879
in early twenties, Truby Davison didn't think twice about taking

2313
03:15:45,920 --> 03:15:49,959
his plane and his friends. Right, most of the first

2314
03:15:50,520 --> 03:15:55,799
Yale air Unit was comprised of young men that were

2315
03:15:56,000 --> 03:16:00,840
in Skull and Bones or Scrolling Key, which is a

2316
03:16:00,840 --> 03:16:09,760
similar organization at a different school. Right, Like, these men

2317
03:16:09,799 --> 03:16:14,399
could have known whatever they wanted and what they wanted

2318
03:16:14,440 --> 03:16:20,799
to do was their duty, and that's what their parents,

2319
03:16:20,799 --> 03:16:26,040
their fathers wanted. It was more important that their sons

2320
03:16:26,079 --> 03:16:34,520
did their duty than their sons stayed alive. Because most

2321
03:16:34,559 --> 03:16:43,959
of those men, right, the Raskins, this myths, the DuPonts,

2322
03:16:45,120 --> 03:16:47,840
they knew that some of their boys were not coming back,

2323
03:16:48,399 --> 03:16:53,440
and they did it anyways. Now, our elites, our elites

2324
03:16:53,520 --> 03:17:00,479
send other people's kids to die. So I just hope

2325
03:17:00,520 --> 03:17:05,639
some of our elites now, the elites that have realized

2326
03:17:05,639 --> 03:17:12,719
what time it is, that they hold themselves to the

2327
03:17:12,760 --> 03:17:20,040
standard of not even just guys like Truby or guys

2328
03:17:20,159 --> 03:17:27,920
like Rasking Dupond or Carnegie or Morgan or Rockefeller, like

2329
03:17:28,040 --> 03:17:35,840
those are big megashoes, but to hold themselves upo the

2330
03:17:35,879 --> 03:17:39,799
same standard as Donald Trump is doing right now, like

2331
03:17:39,879 --> 03:17:43,479
a real estate developer from Queens is making every rich

2332
03:17:43,520 --> 03:17:45,000
guy look like a coward.

2333
03:17:46,520 --> 03:17:51,559
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you would hope that those people are out

2334
03:17:51,600 --> 03:17:56,239
there and that they're they're thinking about it and they're

2335
03:17:57,159 --> 03:18:03,879
making plays. I guess we shall see, because I mean,

2336
03:18:04,319 --> 03:18:08,000
you know, one of the one of the points of

2337
03:18:08,000 --> 03:18:12,879
of the Old Glory Club is to identify and raise

2338
03:18:13,000 --> 03:18:18,040
up elites. And it all starts with elite thinking yes.

2339
03:18:19,840 --> 03:18:22,120
And that's what people That's what a lot of people

2340
03:18:22,200 --> 03:18:27,840
don't get is you don't have to think like you've

2341
03:18:27,879 --> 03:18:31,040
been taught. You don't have to think like the cog

2342
03:18:31,280 --> 03:18:34,479
that school. You know, I was lucky enough to go

2343
03:18:34,559 --> 03:18:38,159
to prep school, you know it, to start by to

2344
03:18:38,200 --> 03:18:43,799
start my secondary education in a pretty prestigious prep school,

2345
03:18:45,079 --> 03:18:50,200
and it gave me an attitude. It basically gave me.

2346
03:18:50,239 --> 03:18:52,159
It gave me an It hasn't always been the best

2347
03:18:52,159 --> 03:18:53,879
attitude I've.

2348
03:18:53,520 --> 03:18:54,760
Speaker 2: Been able talking about.

2349
03:18:55,440 --> 03:19:02,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I've been able to reel it in. And

2350
03:19:02,239 --> 03:19:04,479
most people just don't get that. You're not getting that

2351
03:19:04,600 --> 03:19:08,479
in a classroom full of my classrooms were were ten

2352
03:19:08,600 --> 03:19:11,360
fifteen people. You're not getting that in a classroom full

2353
03:19:11,360 --> 03:19:15,079
of forty and fifty people and the teacher. You look

2354
03:19:15,120 --> 03:19:18,239
at the teacher and you're like, shit, I'm smarter than

2355
03:19:18,239 --> 03:19:21,840
that person. Because I'm assuming a lot of people who

2356
03:19:22,239 --> 03:19:25,440
are listening to this did the same thing as me

2357
03:19:26,040 --> 03:19:31,639
in school, especially in high school, definitely in college. Oh wow,

2358
03:19:31,680 --> 03:19:38,159
I'm smarter than this person. This person's a moron, And yeah,

2359
03:19:39,000 --> 03:19:41,079
there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that

2360
03:19:41,159 --> 03:19:41,920
kind of attitude.

2361
03:19:42,159 --> 03:19:43,959
Speaker 2: No, I bet you. The attitude that you're talking about

2362
03:19:43,959 --> 03:19:49,399
specifically was that the rules don't apply to you. The

2363
03:19:49,479 --> 03:19:54,479
rules apply to other people, right, you know, the people

2364
03:19:54,559 --> 03:19:58,799
dumb enough to follow them, like the people get the color,

2365
03:19:59,239 --> 03:20:05,200
you know, within the la Like okay, but yeah, the

2366
03:20:05,239 --> 03:20:09,079
one thing we're really good at, I would say, as

2367
03:20:09,120 --> 03:20:15,559
a thing I guess is meming things into existence. All right,

2368
03:20:15,600 --> 03:20:22,120
like we are setting. I mentioned this on Jason's podcast.

2369
03:20:22,559 --> 03:20:29,079
Everybody should go listen to Jason Marrinchuk's podcast. He's got

2370
03:20:29,200 --> 03:20:31,760
guys much better than me on it, Like Dark Enlightenment,

2371
03:20:33,200 --> 03:20:39,600
it's just a brilliant resource. But I mentioned it on

2372
03:20:39,719 --> 03:20:46,840
his podcast that even though we don't realize it, we're

2373
03:20:46,840 --> 03:20:49,000
too dumb to realize it, and we've been losing so

2374
03:20:49,120 --> 03:20:53,360
long we don't even see who we're winning. We're driving

2375
03:20:53,399 --> 03:20:59,040
the culturals igeist. If you don't see that, you're foolish.

2376
03:21:00,479 --> 03:21:07,280
All right, the culture is coming to us. I could

2377
03:21:07,479 --> 03:21:10,079
probably waste another hour and a half of Pete's Evening

2378
03:21:10,559 --> 03:21:13,600
giving you examples of doing that or how it's doing that,

2379
03:21:13,680 --> 03:21:19,959
But I think you can already think of some of yourself. Right. So,

2380
03:21:20,000 --> 03:21:24,440
if we're setting the cultural tempo, if we're setting the

2381
03:21:24,520 --> 03:21:31,239
narrative that the other side testified against, and we're really

2382
03:21:31,239 --> 03:21:36,879
good at meming things into existence, we need to meme,

2383
03:21:38,719 --> 03:21:43,200
we need to propagate, and we need to carry ourselves accordingly.

2384
03:21:45,719 --> 03:21:49,639
We need to bring back duty. And there is a

2385
03:21:49,760 --> 03:21:56,000
very unhealthy attitude that because the system hates me, I

2386
03:21:56,079 --> 03:22:03,120
hate it and I have no duty to it. That's

2387
03:22:03,120 --> 03:22:08,079
the wrong way to think about it. The system this nation.

2388
03:22:10,079 --> 03:22:13,399
And I may disagree with the E on this right,

2389
03:22:16,360 --> 03:22:23,159
but that's my flag. When I look in DC, I

2390
03:22:23,200 --> 03:22:32,719
see my buildings. When I look at this country, I

2391
03:22:32,760 --> 03:22:38,799
see mine, my country, the people that are in it mine.

2392
03:22:39,000 --> 03:22:45,639
These are my people. And just like the people that

2393
03:22:45,719 --> 03:22:52,079
worked for guys like Jack Morgan, if you're listening to this,

2394
03:22:52,959 --> 03:23:01,399
you have a duty to them because they're your people, right, You,

2395
03:23:01,959 --> 03:23:05,319
like Pete mentioned, probably smarter than everybody in class, probably

2396
03:23:05,319 --> 03:23:09,000
smarter than the person teaching you. In a better time,

2397
03:23:10,399 --> 03:23:14,200
you would have ended up in a better place. But

2398
03:23:14,280 --> 03:23:16,399
we don't ask for better times, and we don't ask

2399
03:23:16,440 --> 03:23:22,600
for easier jobs. We don't ask for, you know, an

2400
03:23:22,639 --> 03:23:32,360
easier go at it. So these are your people. The

2401
03:23:32,399 --> 03:23:42,760
institutions are your institutions. The buildings that they occupy are yours.

2402
03:23:45,440 --> 03:23:54,120
Just because some guests have long overstayed there welcome doesn't

2403
03:23:54,200 --> 03:24:06,879
make the guesthouse no longer your house. Right, the people

2404
03:24:06,920 --> 03:24:13,840
in your house are yours and your responsibility. Whether it's

2405
03:24:13,879 --> 03:24:18,520
the people in North Carolina, whether it's the people that

2406
03:24:18,559 --> 03:24:26,760
are less fortunate in your community, you need to act accordingly. Right,

2407
03:24:26,920 --> 03:24:34,040
Aristocracy isn't about thinking you're better. It's about making people

2408
03:24:34,959 --> 03:24:45,079
that are your responsibility better. Give them the ability for

2409
03:24:45,159 --> 03:24:50,280
self actualization to be the best that they can be

2410
03:24:50,479 --> 03:24:52,920
with the gifts that God gave them. That's your job.

2411
03:24:58,079 --> 03:25:06,399
If anybody tries to hurt them or take away their

2412
03:25:06,399 --> 03:25:11,879
ability for that actualization, it's your responsibility to make sure

2413
03:25:11,879 --> 03:25:18,319
that doesn't happen. We need to be shepherds, not edge lords.

2414
03:25:21,239 --> 03:25:26,479
We're better than these people, not because we think we're better.

2415
03:25:29,520 --> 03:25:32,079
Others will think we're better because that's because they're going

2416
03:25:32,120 --> 03:25:36,520
to be watching what we do. We're just going to

2417
03:25:36,559 --> 03:25:44,360
be better because we are better. And I think we

2418
03:25:44,440 --> 03:25:49,200
need to. I think we're in that stage at the

2419
03:25:49,239 --> 03:25:51,040
game that we need to start taking ourselves quite a

2420
03:25:51,040 --> 03:25:54,079
bit more seriously than we do now, how we act

2421
03:25:54,120 --> 03:25:55,680
in our communities, how we act in our day to

2422
03:25:55,760 --> 03:26:03,760
day lives, because very soon, I mean, if you understand

2423
03:26:03,799 --> 03:26:08,479
Rogers's theorem, it's how social networks work, It's how technology works.

2424
03:26:08,520 --> 03:26:20,399
It's originally used to model the propagation of technology. It's

2425
03:26:20,520 --> 03:26:23,399
very important to technology or for two tech entrepreneurs. Every

2426
03:26:23,520 --> 03:26:26,639
tech guy or any founder at least knows what I'm

2427
03:26:26,639 --> 03:26:29,639
talking about. Elon knows what I'm talking about guarantee it

2428
03:26:31,479 --> 03:26:34,120
right because as you're planning your tech company out right,

2429
03:26:34,479 --> 03:26:39,440
it's very important that you understand about how quickly those

2430
03:26:39,479 --> 03:26:42,399
ideas right, your new way of doing things, your new

2431
03:26:42,399 --> 03:26:46,280
piece of technology propagates throughout society like somebody's come up

2432
03:26:46,280 --> 03:26:49,559
with a new solution. It saves bunch of time. Okay,

2433
03:26:50,360 --> 03:26:51,840
how long does it take for the rest of the

2434
03:26:51,879 --> 03:26:55,760
population to understand that this new solution is the better

2435
03:26:55,760 --> 03:26:59,079
way of doing things? This platform whatever is that you built,

2436
03:27:00,280 --> 03:27:02,719
all right? How fast those ideas travel will give you

2437
03:27:02,719 --> 03:27:04,600
an idea of how much capital you need to outlay,

2438
03:27:05,639 --> 03:27:08,440
how much needs to be spent into growing the platform,

2439
03:27:08,680 --> 03:27:12,719
how much needs to be spent in bringing on new

2440
03:27:12,719 --> 03:27:15,239
team members, what are you going to need. Roger's theorem

2441
03:27:15,280 --> 03:27:20,959
is important. It turns out it's applicable to not just

2442
03:27:21,040 --> 03:27:25,079
technology but ideas. It's a very good way to model

2443
03:27:25,120 --> 03:27:32,840
how fast ideas propagate through society. And the magic number

2444
03:27:33,399 --> 03:27:37,079
of the point of no return. I guess before the

2445
03:27:37,200 --> 03:27:44,000
curve becomes parabolic, before the system becomes nonlinear, I guess

2446
03:27:45,280 --> 03:27:48,680
is I may have to do some house cleaning. It's late.

2447
03:27:49,719 --> 03:27:52,479
I haven't eaten since yesterday, but I think it's like

2448
03:27:52,559 --> 03:27:57,280
thirteen percent, thirteen and a half something like that. And

2449
03:27:58,200 --> 03:28:02,399
I'm sure everybody listening, And do you think that thirteen

2450
03:28:02,440 --> 03:28:04,159
percent of the population knows what we know?

2451
03:28:05,520 --> 03:28:09,680
Speaker 1: I think it's got I think, especially over the last year,

2452
03:28:11,120 --> 03:28:15,280
if it's not thirteen it's damn fucking close.

2453
03:28:15,840 --> 03:28:18,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would actually think it's more to be honest

2454
03:28:18,959 --> 03:28:22,600
with you, because Twitter is just whatever. Whatever the conversation

2455
03:28:22,719 --> 03:28:25,840
is on Twitter is the conversation in normally land six

2456
03:28:25,879 --> 03:28:31,000
months later. Okay, So hypothetically we're past thirteen percent. That

2457
03:28:31,159 --> 03:28:34,719
means the knowledge that we have the idea the way

2458
03:28:34,719 --> 03:28:42,399
we view the world is eventually right, not hypothetically, not possibly,

2459
03:28:42,639 --> 03:28:49,600
is going to be the idea that everyone has, the

2460
03:28:49,639 --> 03:28:57,280
thinking right, the realization right. So our worldview becoming the

2461
03:28:57,319 --> 03:29:03,200
dominant worldview is a FATA complete right. The idea is

2462
03:29:03,239 --> 03:29:07,760
out of the barn. It's coming. So that means, whether

2463
03:29:07,799 --> 03:29:12,760
it's a year, whether it's five years or ten years,

2464
03:29:14,600 --> 03:29:21,360
people are going to need men like you to be

2465
03:29:21,479 --> 03:29:26,360
men like we had a long time ago, right, Because

2466
03:29:26,360 --> 03:29:28,719
if the rest of the country is coming to where

2467
03:29:28,760 --> 03:29:32,079
we are, right, if we have a whole bunch of

2468
03:29:33,440 --> 03:29:36,719
people coming to a party at your house. They haven't

2469
03:29:36,760 --> 03:29:47,040
arrived yet. I think you probably should get dressed right,

2470
03:29:47,239 --> 03:29:54,719
have the table set, you know, get to looking like

2471
03:29:54,799 --> 03:30:01,920
the men of the house. Yeah.

2472
03:30:02,000 --> 03:30:05,920
Speaker 1: I think that's uh, let's just end it right there.

2473
03:30:06,079 --> 03:30:07,120
Speaker 2: I think that's the spot.

2474
03:30:08,719 --> 03:30:13,799
Speaker 1: Yep, until next time. Yeah, until next time, man, thank

2475
03:30:13,840 --> 03:30:17,760
you very much. And yeah, hold on, don't go anywhere

2476
03:30:17,760 --> 03:30:19,959
because we're probably going to talk for another hour without

2477
03:30:20,000 --> 03:30:26,280
recording probably, thanks man. I want to welcome everyone back

2478
03:30:26,319 --> 03:30:28,719
to that. We don't even need to do introductions for

2479
03:30:28,760 --> 03:30:31,040
this guy. What's going on? Stormy? How are you doing?

2480
03:30:31,399 --> 03:30:33,840
Speaker 2: Have to go? And Pete happy to happy to be.

2481
03:30:33,840 --> 03:30:37,520
Speaker 1: Back, good man. Let's uh, I think this will finish

2482
03:30:37,559 --> 03:30:42,280
it talking about the the Robert Barons of old and uh,

2483
03:30:42,360 --> 03:30:44,280
I think this is the one everybody's waiting for. We're

2484
03:30:44,280 --> 03:30:47,319
going to start getting into the specifics of America first

2485
03:30:48,159 --> 03:30:54,319
and the real America first, and and what did people

2486
03:30:54,399 --> 03:30:57,639
actually believe back then? And we're not even talking about them,

2487
03:30:57,680 --> 03:31:01,159
we're talking about what are the common person the street believe.

2488
03:31:01,479 --> 03:31:03,159
So where do you want to start?

2489
03:31:04,399 --> 03:31:08,760
Speaker 2: Let's start with the America First Committee. The America First

2490
03:31:08,799 --> 03:31:13,399
Committee is a really really interesting thing because we talked

2491
03:31:13,440 --> 03:31:19,360
before on previous episodes about the American Liberty League and

2492
03:31:19,559 --> 03:31:22,760
the men that made that up, and those men didn't

2493
03:31:22,799 --> 03:31:26,600
go away. And you know, we discussed at the end

2494
03:31:26,639 --> 03:31:30,319
what it took to stop those men, because it really

2495
03:31:30,440 --> 03:31:34,120
was the most powerful men in the country trying to

2496
03:31:34,639 --> 03:31:41,159
frankly save the country. And to give you an idea,

2497
03:31:41,440 --> 03:31:43,959
at the time that the America First Committee was formed,

2498
03:31:46,639 --> 03:31:49,319
it really only had four policy planks. I'll get into

2499
03:31:49,360 --> 03:31:56,360
those in a second, but the overarching narrative was to

2500
03:31:56,559 --> 03:32:05,719
keep America out of any military intervention in Europe. Right

2501
03:32:05,959 --> 03:32:10,920
because there was no there was no military action happening

2502
03:32:10,959 --> 03:32:13,280
anywhere else in the world. The Pacific hadn't kicked off yet,

2503
03:32:14,840 --> 03:32:19,200
and it was announced on the day that lend Lease started.

2504
03:32:20,799 --> 03:32:26,559
Right because Roosevelt campaigned, just as Woodrow Wilson campaigned, and

2505
03:32:26,959 --> 03:32:31,799
these men, that fact was not lost on these men, right,

2506
03:32:31,840 --> 03:32:35,680
like you, campaigning on keeping us out of war means

2507
03:32:35,719 --> 03:32:41,600
nothing because less than twenty years ago, well within the

2508
03:32:41,639 --> 03:32:46,559
professional lifetimes of these men, right much how long does

2509
03:32:46,680 --> 03:32:50,399
no man usually have in a career, thirty years, So

2510
03:32:51,040 --> 03:32:53,319
most of these men were roughly in the same positions

2511
03:32:53,600 --> 03:32:59,280
as they were in World War One, and they remember

2512
03:32:59,399 --> 03:33:06,520
thirty years ago go with Drow Wilson campaigned on vehement

2513
03:33:07,760 --> 03:33:14,639
anti interventionism, and his literally his only campaign slogan was

2514
03:33:14,799 --> 03:33:21,600
Wilson kept us out of war. And one of the

2515
03:33:21,639 --> 03:33:28,479
most famous speeches that FDR gave on the campaign trail

2516
03:33:32,040 --> 03:33:41,600
was that he no American young man is going to

2517
03:33:41,719 --> 03:33:44,840
go off to some foreign land and die in some

2518
03:33:44,879 --> 03:33:49,159
foreign conflict. Right the only way that that would happen

2519
03:33:50,559 --> 03:33:57,719
is over his dead body. If only that were true,

2520
03:33:58,040 --> 03:34:03,479
because unbeknownst to most of America, but not unbeknownst to

2521
03:34:04,360 --> 03:34:07,440
people in elite circles in the hall of halls of power,

2522
03:34:07,840 --> 03:34:14,239
is that Roosevelt was not only planning on intervening in Europe,

2523
03:34:14,719 --> 03:34:19,959
but had been since the midway through his first administration.

2524
03:34:21,959 --> 03:34:28,959
So like the man, literally, I mean from the very beginning,

2525
03:34:29,239 --> 03:34:33,079
Woodrow Wilson was an idiot, right, Woodrow Wilson didn't run

2526
03:34:33,120 --> 03:34:36,639
Woodrow Wilson. Woodrow Wilson was a lot in his second term.

2527
03:34:38,319 --> 03:34:41,639
He was a lot like Joe Biden. And I mean, really,

2528
03:34:42,520 --> 03:34:46,639
we don't have TV cameras, but all right, we didn't

2529
03:34:46,639 --> 03:34:50,680
have TV cameras back then, but you can imagine.

2530
03:34:50,239 --> 03:34:53,440
Speaker 1: Known that his wife, his wife was was doing a

2531
03:34:53,479 --> 03:34:56,000
lot of the same things that Joe Biden's wife was doing,

2532
03:34:56,000 --> 03:34:57,840
and the Colonel House was just basically.

2533
03:34:57,600 --> 03:35:01,239
Speaker 2: Running the show. Who the Colonel's worked for.

2534
03:35:03,559 --> 03:35:06,639
Speaker 1: Work for the City of London, yes, or our brook

2535
03:35:06,680 --> 03:35:07,680
work for the City of London.

2536
03:35:07,799 --> 03:35:11,319
Speaker 2: So yes, correct, that's one hundred percent correct. Literally just

2537
03:35:11,319 --> 03:35:17,120
like we see today, it's it's no different. It's the

2538
03:35:17,200 --> 03:35:20,760
same interest groups doing the exact same things. I caught

2539
03:35:20,799 --> 03:35:25,680
your your interview with Tom Luongo last night, and I

2540
03:35:25,719 --> 03:35:31,040
agree with almost everything he says. He knows what he

2541
03:35:31,079 --> 03:35:37,360
knows about like the motivators in the financial world. What

2542
03:35:37,440 --> 03:35:40,559
he doesn't know is that is that they're roughly paralleled

2543
03:35:40,799 --> 03:35:45,360
or at least his views are paralleled in like the

2544
03:35:45,719 --> 03:35:54,360
private defense or private defense industries, and in we'll say,

2545
03:35:54,360 --> 03:36:00,000
like it's generally called risk capital, but it's not really

2546
03:36:00,120 --> 03:36:02,840
like I mean, VC is risk And yes we all

2547
03:36:02,879 --> 03:36:05,680
know now, I mean some of you guys that have

2548
03:36:05,680 --> 03:36:08,600
followed me on Twitter for a couple of years. I'm

2549
03:36:08,639 --> 03:36:11,799
suspended right now for being a bad boy. I got

2550
03:36:11,799 --> 03:36:14,920
a twelve hour this morning for something like I posted

2551
03:36:14,959 --> 03:36:20,719
like a week ago. Somebody was talking about like inheritance tax,

2552
03:36:22,879 --> 03:36:27,840
basically the persecutive inheritance tax that England is trying to

2553
03:36:29,520 --> 03:36:33,959
throw down on its farmers. Some communists was like, yeah, well,

2554
03:36:34,879 --> 03:36:38,840
my guy, this will increase production. You know, how can

2555
03:36:38,879 --> 03:36:40,719
you not think it's going to increase production, my guy?

2556
03:36:40,760 --> 03:36:44,079
And I guess it's something like, how about I gave

2557
03:36:44,079 --> 03:36:47,200
your head in with the rock? Will that increase production?

2558
03:36:47,360 --> 03:36:47,760
My guy?

2559
03:36:49,680 --> 03:36:52,280
Speaker 1: It seems it'll make the world a better place.

2560
03:36:53,079 --> 03:36:57,879
Speaker 2: Oh god, communist brain splattering. It definitely increases production, and

2561
03:36:57,920 --> 03:37:03,159
it sure as shit increases motivation, like it's a motivated workforce.

2562
03:37:03,280 --> 03:37:09,159
But it's the same people again for roughly the same

2563
03:37:09,200 --> 03:37:16,680
reasons what happened in nineteen The reason that we had

2564
03:37:16,760 --> 03:37:21,200
nineteen twenty nine is because in nineteen twenty nine, there's

2565
03:37:21,399 --> 03:37:26,239
for those that don't know, there was a cataclysmic financial crash,

2566
03:37:27,399 --> 03:37:32,440
right like massive that was global. It was the very

2567
03:37:32,479 --> 03:37:39,280
first global I can't call it market crash because it

2568
03:37:39,360 --> 03:37:42,879
was an entire economic crash. It wasn't just like the

2569
03:37:42,879 --> 03:37:48,719
stock market. It affected all aspects of socio political economy,

2570
03:37:49,079 --> 03:37:52,200
right like you know from it was Wall Street and

2571
03:37:52,239 --> 03:37:57,600
Main Street, and it went all the way around the

2572
03:37:57,600 --> 03:38:02,120
world really fast. Because at that point in time, the

2573
03:38:02,200 --> 03:38:05,360
reserve currency or the currency of trade was the pound sterling,

2574
03:38:07,239 --> 03:38:17,120
and in World War One, we lent our banks lent

2575
03:38:17,840 --> 03:38:20,879
the Brits a tremendous amount of money at the behest

2576
03:38:21,200 --> 03:38:30,680
and guarantee of Woodrow Wilson and his administration. Nobody. Everyone says,

2577
03:38:30,719 --> 03:38:33,760
like the bankers pushed them into some bankers, yes, but

2578
03:38:34,680 --> 03:38:41,959
US bankers not so much because at the time, like

2579
03:38:42,760 --> 03:38:49,399
Germany was kicking people's asses. So once the Rothchilds were

2580
03:38:49,399 --> 03:38:54,639
tapped out and they had to go to America for capital, like,

2581
03:38:54,920 --> 03:38:59,280
they're good and well getting their ass beat. So who

2582
03:38:59,280 --> 03:39:01,600
the fuck wants to lend to a like would you

2583
03:39:01,719 --> 03:39:08,440
lend a bunch of money to the Ukrainian government right now? No? Now,

2584
03:39:09,120 --> 03:39:12,319
not at all. The only way that like JP Morgan

2585
03:39:12,399 --> 03:39:15,920
is extending a huge line of credit is if you

2586
03:39:16,000 --> 03:39:24,319
know the goat, like the you know, pharmaceutically animated corpse

2587
03:39:24,319 --> 03:39:27,680
of Joe Biden, you know, holds a gun to his head.

2588
03:39:27,719 --> 03:39:30,840
That's the only way that's happening, because this is just

2589
03:39:31,319 --> 03:39:38,000
happening the other way. So obviously, the Brits did not

2590
03:39:38,200 --> 03:39:42,159
pull out of World War One, okay, and the reparations

2591
03:39:42,200 --> 03:39:45,920
money that they tried to get from from Germany couldn't

2592
03:39:45,959 --> 03:39:50,399
come in fast enough to cover the interest on all

2593
03:39:50,399 --> 03:39:57,040
the sovereign debt, and the pound blew up, and England defaulted,

2594
03:39:59,000 --> 03:40:03,399
and a lot of our banks defaulted because basically the

2595
03:40:03,440 --> 03:40:09,600
Brits just stipped everybody, and you had the Great Crash

2596
03:40:09,680 --> 03:40:13,719
of nineteen twenty nine, which basically ended the American Golden Age.

2597
03:40:15,280 --> 03:40:19,120
So it was actually the sins of World War One

2598
03:40:19,239 --> 03:40:24,280
coming home to roost that ended America's golden age. Everyone says, oh,

2599
03:40:24,319 --> 03:40:26,719
the stock market was just unrealistically high. It kept on

2600
03:40:26,799 --> 03:40:30,920
going up and up and up. Yeah, as Mark Andriesen

2601
03:40:31,120 --> 03:40:35,239
on Joe Rogan or any other one of his appearances

2602
03:40:35,280 --> 03:40:40,479
will tell you, like, yeah, innovation does that innovation creates

2603
03:40:41,000 --> 03:40:48,760
value out of nothing. Sorry, Libertarians and Austrians, right, like,

2604
03:40:49,239 --> 03:40:54,840
an economy is not a thing that lives in a vacuum,

2605
03:40:55,959 --> 03:40:59,680
and for it to exist in a vacuum, which it

2606
03:40:59,760 --> 03:41:05,680
does have to under the tenets of really either Kynesian

2607
03:41:06,200 --> 03:41:10,879
or Austrian economics. The only room inside this vacuum bubble

2608
03:41:12,719 --> 03:41:22,000
is for buyers and sellers making entirely rational decisions for

2609
03:41:22,079 --> 03:41:28,239
the purpose of getting a the highest price and be

2610
03:41:28,600 --> 03:41:31,079
the most value depending on what side of the transaction

2611
03:41:31,120 --> 03:41:33,479
you're on and these are the only people that are

2612
03:41:33,479 --> 03:41:42,120
allowed inside this vacuum, and that's not real. Do we

2613
03:41:42,239 --> 03:41:46,239
think that? What do you think, Pete? What would you

2614
03:41:46,280 --> 03:41:54,079
say influences oil markets today more the rational decisions of

2615
03:41:54,200 --> 03:42:01,040
buyers and sellers, right, going about price discovery in a market,

2616
03:42:01,600 --> 03:42:03,840
or the geostrategic needs of Vladimir Putin.

2617
03:42:06,319 --> 03:42:09,200
Speaker 1: Well, I would assume the geostrategic needs of Ladimir Putin.

2618
03:42:09,280 --> 03:42:11,959
But then you look at the price of oil in

2619
03:42:12,000 --> 03:42:14,399
the last six months to a year and you're like,

2620
03:42:14,559 --> 03:42:16,399
why is it stayed pegged somewhere?

2621
03:42:17,120 --> 03:42:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, the pegged? Right, that's that's that's a choice word

2622
03:42:21,799 --> 03:42:23,879
in the beginning of the Ukraine War. Enough take a tangent.

2623
03:42:24,559 --> 03:42:30,600
But for those of you that don't remember Janet Yellen, uh,

2624
03:42:31,959 --> 03:42:34,520
you know what I mean, like when on tour, like

2625
03:42:34,760 --> 03:42:37,639
you know, when they don't really let that troll on

2626
03:42:37,680 --> 03:42:43,520
TV much for good reason, for good reason. She is horrific.

2627
03:42:43,760 --> 03:42:47,319
She's a horrific human being. And that's just not that's

2628
03:42:47,360 --> 03:42:51,799
not because any ethnic animosity I may have, or my

2629
03:42:52,120 --> 03:43:05,079
preference to Anglo Saxon Ubermensch and old stock American Jerome Powell,

2630
03:43:05,120 --> 03:43:11,399
but just because she is very dumb. Her PhD thesis,

2631
03:43:11,479 --> 03:43:13,719
she's an academic and has never actually worked in the

2632
03:43:13,760 --> 03:43:17,559
real world, was on labor theory of economics. Labor theory

2633
03:43:17,600 --> 03:43:20,639
of economics is also known as literal Marxism, not like

2634
03:43:20,680 --> 03:43:25,479
the pretend Jamee loss Lindsay kind or the pretend Boomer conkind,

2635
03:43:25,799 --> 03:43:31,680
but actual kind. Her husband is the world's foremost Marxist economist.

2636
03:43:31,760 --> 03:43:37,559
If such a fucking ludicrous thing could exist out of Berkeley,

2637
03:43:37,600 --> 03:43:40,879
I believe for Stanford, I can't remember which, but she

2638
03:43:41,000 --> 03:43:45,000
tried to impose a eighty dollars oil price gap to

2639
03:43:45,040 --> 03:43:49,559
stick it to Putin and the Europeans like, yeah, it's

2640
03:43:49,559 --> 03:43:51,239
a good idea, We're going to do a price gap.

2641
03:43:52,280 --> 03:43:55,040
And then people in the market were like, this is

2642
03:43:55,040 --> 03:43:58,239
a terrible idea. This is really, really dumb. You should

2643
03:43:58,360 --> 03:44:01,719
never ever ever talk about this again and never talk

2644
03:44:01,760 --> 03:44:06,399
in public again, and just kind of disappeared. But yet

2645
03:44:06,440 --> 03:44:09,879
we have what is Russia. Russia's like, what eighteen percent

2646
03:44:09,879 --> 03:44:15,280
of global production? No, I think it's more than that,

2647
03:44:15,280 --> 03:44:19,520
about right, It's gotta be more than that oil. Yeah,

2648
03:44:19,600 --> 03:44:22,319
I'm thinking like oil and we have to include that gas, right,

2649
03:44:23,399 --> 03:44:26,079
But yeah, it's it's massive it's at least twenty percent

2650
03:44:26,120 --> 03:44:39,600
of the market percentage. Sorry guys talking on my keyboard.

2651
03:44:39,959 --> 03:44:46,719
Speaker 1: Wow, are you getting twelve twenty global oil?

2652
03:44:46,920 --> 03:44:49,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, twelve percent of global oil, twenty one percent of

2653
03:44:49,319 --> 03:44:50,159
global energy.

2654
03:44:51,040 --> 03:44:55,799
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's incredible. Well that's another reason why the

2655
03:44:55,879 --> 03:45:00,559
United States can put a put sanctions on them, even

2656
03:45:00,639 --> 03:45:03,840
blow up their pipeline, and they're still fine. I mean

2657
03:45:03,879 --> 03:45:06,879
the Rubles, the Rubles crashing now, and people think that

2658
03:45:06,879 --> 03:45:10,680
that's like, oh, we're taking them out. How many times?

2659
03:45:10,799 --> 03:45:13,159
Is how many times we have crashes here? Come on,

2660
03:45:13,680 --> 03:45:14,079
stop it.

2661
03:45:14,159 --> 03:45:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the ruble crash, I mean, it was bound

2662
03:45:17,200 --> 03:45:22,760
to happen, just like you know, that's like everyone's like, oh,

2663
03:45:22,799 --> 03:45:25,479
bitcoin's crashing now as it goes from like one hundred

2664
03:45:25,520 --> 03:45:31,319
to ninety, Like they forget the up from eight thousand

2665
03:45:31,399 --> 03:45:35,440
part which was like five years ago. Yeah, but you know,

2666
03:45:35,520 --> 03:45:39,040
oil makes up forty five percent of the Russian Russian

2667
03:45:39,079 --> 03:45:42,959
federal budget, so oil reduced, so they thought that they could,

2668
03:45:43,120 --> 03:45:48,920
you know, do this, but so we're going to sanction

2669
03:45:49,200 --> 03:45:52,680
the largest oil one of the largest single oil producers

2670
03:45:52,760 --> 03:45:59,280
in the world and the largest single one of the

2671
03:45:59,360 --> 03:46:02,680
largest single preecers in the world is currently at war

2672
03:46:03,639 --> 03:46:09,760
with its neighbor, and the pipeline infrastructure runs through that neighbor,

2673
03:46:11,799 --> 03:46:18,680
but yet oil doesn't move. And then what happens next

2674
03:46:18,799 --> 03:46:24,760
is last year we have war in the Middle East,

2675
03:46:24,799 --> 03:46:29,040
where I don't know, I'd say fifty percent of global

2676
03:46:29,120 --> 03:46:34,079
energy comes from. So that's some total of what we're at,

2677
03:46:34,120 --> 03:46:37,200
seventy percent of global energy production in those two nations,

2678
03:46:37,200 --> 03:46:38,479
in those two areas.

2679
03:46:39,280 --> 03:46:42,120
Speaker 1: And only because we haven't opened it up here.

2680
03:46:42,520 --> 03:46:45,479
Speaker 2: Yes, but so seventy percent of the world's oil markets

2681
03:46:45,520 --> 03:46:51,079
technically on fire right and oil and they're and they're

2682
03:46:51,079 --> 03:46:58,760
blowing up pipelines and they are you know, downing oil

2683
03:46:58,799 --> 03:47:04,360
tankers with drones. So we haven't seen oil move past

2684
03:47:04,399 --> 03:47:18,200
seventy This defies all credibility Like this, Yeah, the oil

2685
03:47:18,239 --> 03:47:23,159
market is rigged, but rigging something is expensive. It's really expensive,

2686
03:47:24,120 --> 03:47:29,040
and it's a good microcosm for what like the one

2687
03:47:29,040 --> 03:47:31,239
thing like Luongo talks about with the euro dollar systems

2688
03:47:31,200 --> 03:47:35,719
is that he doesn't talk about what it does and

2689
03:47:35,760 --> 03:47:39,760
why it's so pernicious, which I think is very important.

2690
03:47:41,639 --> 03:47:43,959
So basically what the Europeans and this is why I'm

2691
03:47:43,959 --> 03:47:46,479
actually not upset that their pipeline up loaded up. Fuck them.

2692
03:47:47,559 --> 03:47:51,360
You don't get America paying for your entire national defense

2693
03:47:52,040 --> 03:47:56,680
and you go buy oil from someone else. Buying our

2694
03:47:56,840 --> 03:48:02,159
energy is the least they should be doing. I'm sorry,

2695
03:48:02,239 --> 03:48:09,360
euro Bros, but it's true, like you can't even contribute

2696
03:48:09,399 --> 03:48:14,959
two percent of your GDP, in fact, for the large

2697
03:48:15,120 --> 03:48:20,040
portion of the history, less than one percent. And at

2698
03:48:20,040 --> 03:48:24,799
the same time, you're basically expecting us to foot the

2699
03:48:24,799 --> 03:48:32,159
bill for the largest single line item budget item on

2700
03:48:32,239 --> 03:48:35,840
the federal government, and it should be the largest single

2701
03:48:35,879 --> 03:48:40,399
line item on any government. You expect us to pay

2702
03:48:40,440 --> 03:48:49,520
for that, and then you also want to just buy

2703
03:48:49,840 --> 03:48:56,000
oil from the person that we are paying to defend

2704
03:48:56,000 --> 03:49:03,799
you from. It wasn't for us, Russia could just take you.

2705
03:49:07,879 --> 03:49:11,399
It's I am. I know it's an unpopular take, but

2706
03:49:11,479 --> 03:49:13,760
when you put it next to the fact that, yes,

2707
03:49:13,799 --> 03:49:16,440
America blew up the pipeline, where the Brits actually blew

2708
03:49:16,520 --> 03:49:20,559
up the pipeline and America didn't really care that they

2709
03:49:20,600 --> 03:49:28,000
did because fuck them. So in the rare instance, I

2710
03:49:28,079 --> 03:49:30,920
kind of agree with James Joe Biden, Donald Trump, and

2711
03:49:30,959 --> 03:49:38,399
Victoria Newland, but yeah, America didn't blow up that pipeline. Sorry, bros.

2712
03:49:39,040 --> 03:49:42,000
I know there's tons of euro guys that'll tell you

2713
03:49:42,840 --> 03:49:48,360
about how it had to be America. And I'm sorry

2714
03:49:48,399 --> 03:49:53,040
for the tangent, Pete. But the very first person, yeah,

2715
03:49:53,079 --> 03:49:57,200
the very first person to announce the the detonation of

2716
03:49:57,239 --> 03:50:01,280
the nord Stream pipeline, who is he? It was on Twitter,

2717
03:50:04,079 --> 03:50:10,520
the Polish Secretary of Defense might He posted a picture

2718
03:50:10,559 --> 03:50:13,639
of the gas bubbling up from the AC floor and

2719
03:50:15,079 --> 03:50:19,440
it said thank you America. What a fucking odd thing

2720
03:50:19,479 --> 03:50:31,639
to say, right, I why would you say that? How

2721
03:50:31,639 --> 03:50:35,239
would you say that publicly? Like okay, let's say America

2722
03:50:35,760 --> 03:50:39,799
did do it, and a defense minister of a NATO

2723
03:50:39,879 --> 03:50:44,280
country takes to social media to rat out the United

2724
03:50:44,280 --> 03:50:51,879
States to the world. What did we do to Julie Massange?

2725
03:50:52,600 --> 03:50:56,159
What do we try to do to Snowden? And you're

2726
03:50:56,159 --> 03:51:04,360
gonna like fucking breathe oxygen in a sphere of US control,

2727
03:51:07,200 --> 03:51:11,399
Like you shouldn't be drawing breath. I mean that made

2728
03:51:11,399 --> 03:51:15,280
absolutely no sense to me, all right, Like nobody that

2729
03:51:15,360 --> 03:51:21,719
fucking airs out US secrets like that, especially secrets of

2730
03:51:21,840 --> 03:51:25,559
US misdeeds, will continue to draw breath. If the US

2731
03:51:25,639 --> 03:51:26,920
has anything to say about.

2732
03:51:26,719 --> 03:51:31,200
Speaker 1: It, Well, you know you can get away with doing stuff. Yeah,

2733
03:51:31,239 --> 03:51:33,000
you know, you can get away with doing stuff like

2734
03:51:33,040 --> 03:51:35,239
that if Joe Biden as president. It's the same way

2735
03:51:35,280 --> 03:51:39,120
you can get away with invading another country, you know,

2736
03:51:39,399 --> 03:51:43,000
basically knowing it's going to draw us into it, if

2737
03:51:43,360 --> 03:51:46,319
you know that the people there's no one in charge.

2738
03:51:47,479 --> 03:51:51,959
Speaker 2: Yes, possibly, Yeah, I can totally agree with that. I

2739
03:51:51,959 --> 03:51:55,600
could totally agree with that. But this Polish Defense Minister

2740
03:51:55,680 --> 03:51:58,399
is a very interesting human being, besides being married to

2741
03:51:58,639 --> 03:52:05,799
one an Apple Bam. I thought you'd like that he is.

2742
03:52:06,280 --> 03:52:08,840
And this will be breaking news on the Peak Quanona

2743
03:52:08,840 --> 03:52:11,040
Show because I don't think I've heard anybody else say this,

2744
03:52:12,440 --> 03:52:21,280
at least in our spheres. So this Polish Defense Minister

2745
03:52:21,399 --> 03:52:28,920
is a nobody, an absolute nobody. He's a poor, unimpressive,

2746
03:52:30,319 --> 03:52:40,319
unacademically gifted, collegial sports gifted human being, a really mediocre person.

2747
03:52:42,000 --> 03:52:46,079
But somehow this poor Polish nobody gets a full ride

2748
03:52:46,159 --> 03:52:56,719
to Oxford. Strange. It gets stranger while at Oxford. His

2749
03:52:56,799 --> 03:53:04,959
first year at Oxford, he gets invited to join the

2750
03:53:04,959 --> 03:53:08,600
Bullingdon Club. Do you know what the Bullingden Club.

2751
03:53:08,360 --> 03:53:11,399
Speaker 1: Is, Pete, No, that I do not know.

2752
03:53:12,280 --> 03:53:15,559
Speaker 2: The Bullingden Club is like Scull and bones if it

2753
03:53:15,639 --> 03:53:18,959
was somehow more secret and more exclusive. Because it is

2754
03:53:19,639 --> 03:53:26,159
both of those things. I believe it's five members a year,

2755
03:53:27,159 --> 03:53:32,040
so four years. At any moment time, there's twenty members,

2756
03:53:32,239 --> 03:53:38,719
and you have to be which we call it them.

2757
03:53:39,680 --> 03:53:44,000
Your invitation has to basically be like chaired by one

2758
03:53:44,000 --> 03:53:46,200
person or sponsored by one person, and then agreed on

2759
03:53:46,280 --> 03:53:50,120
by all every other member of every including not just

2760
03:53:50,200 --> 03:53:54,239
the freshman class but all the other members, but the

2761
03:53:54,360 --> 03:53:56,360
class of people, so that it'd be like those other

2762
03:53:57,959 --> 03:54:01,399
five guys. The other four guys are going to really

2763
03:54:01,680 --> 03:54:07,239
be the determining factor of you know who the next

2764
03:54:07,239 --> 03:54:13,760
person is going to be in their great year? Do

2765
03:54:13,799 --> 03:54:16,760
you know who that person was that that vouched and

2766
03:54:17,639 --> 03:54:20,479
sponsored him? Because it's and it's not something you can

2767
03:54:20,520 --> 03:54:22,079
apply for, it's something that you have to be just

2768
03:54:22,200 --> 03:54:33,319
picked right. One young Boris Johnson. H Who else was

2769
03:54:34,000 --> 03:54:38,680
in the Bollingdon Club, the freshman year Bolingdon Club, Well,

2770
03:54:40,440 --> 03:54:46,559
that would be one David Cameron, current Secretary of Defense

2771
03:54:47,920 --> 03:54:50,520
or whatever their equivalent of Secretary of Defenses. I can't remember.

2772
03:54:53,000 --> 03:54:55,520
There's one other one I can't remember. Some of their

2773
03:54:55,600 --> 03:55:05,799
famous politocrat in Britain was the third one, and Magic

2774
03:55:05,879 --> 03:55:16,559
Number four was Lord Natty Rothschild. Natty Rothschild owns that

2775
03:55:16,760 --> 03:55:22,319
other pipeline that went online the exact same day that

2776
03:55:22,440 --> 03:55:27,079
Nordstream blew up. Probably didn't nobody probably heard about it.

2777
03:55:27,079 --> 03:55:30,239
It's a big pipeline, but I mean the news kind

2778
03:55:30,239 --> 03:55:34,479
of gets drawn, you know, drowned out by you know,

2779
03:55:34,520 --> 03:55:37,440
a pipeline being exploded by a foreign actor, and it

2780
03:55:37,479 --> 03:55:38,799
kind of takes all the air out of the room.

2781
03:55:40,719 --> 03:55:46,559
But it runs from Norway to Poland. It's one of

2782
03:55:46,600 --> 03:55:51,399
the umbrella companies of the same group that does Genie Energy.

2783
03:55:52,319 --> 03:55:55,079
You may have heard of Genie Energy.

2784
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Speaker 1: I think we talked about Genie Energy. It's a roth

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03:55:58,719 --> 03:56:04,319
Child they there. I think their Golon Heights. I think

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03:56:04,399 --> 03:56:08,840
they they control the oil production and on the Golan Heights.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, they tried to also propose south stream. They

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03:56:13,520 --> 03:56:16,959
also have Dick Cheney on the board. Interesting and Donny

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03:56:17,040 --> 03:56:21,639
rum and the late great Donny Rumsfeld. Yeah, they were

2790
03:56:21,639 --> 03:56:24,879
a big deal in Iraq War days. But anyways, these

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03:56:25,799 --> 03:56:27,760
they were trying to do something called south Stream. So

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03:56:27,799 --> 03:56:31,600
basically the US didn't go into Iraq for oil, and

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03:56:31,639 --> 03:56:36,000
it didn't go to Iraq for Israel. It went to

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03:56:36,120 --> 03:56:39,639
Iraq for Israel and oil for Israel. There we go.

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03:56:41,319 --> 03:56:43,920
But all the all of the ship libs at the

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03:56:43,920 --> 03:56:47,600
time were correct. It was blood for oil, just not

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03:56:47,639 --> 03:56:53,200
oil for US. US net oil imports decreased after the

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03:56:53,239 --> 03:56:59,040
Iraq War. But a country that has no natural resources

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03:56:59,639 --> 03:57:05,159
of any kind outside of human capital, but that is arguable,

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03:57:05,479 --> 03:57:12,600
it is of arguable value, suddenly is the seventh largest

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03:57:12,719 --> 03:57:19,120
energy exporter. Israel doesn't have any natural gas or oil

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03:57:20,360 --> 03:57:25,319
under its ground. The Holy Land is not that holy

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03:57:25,440 --> 03:57:31,079
when it comes to energy independence. But Iraqi, Kurdistan right

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03:57:31,079 --> 03:57:38,879
next door does. And that's who Theddam was firing his

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03:57:38,959 --> 03:57:44,079
missiles at. Remember when we invaded Yep, he was supposedly

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03:57:44,079 --> 03:57:47,520
mad at the Katari's right or sorry the was it Qatar?

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03:57:47,760 --> 03:57:52,639
K kuwaitis? How come we didn't fire any of those

2808
03:57:52,639 --> 03:57:56,799
missiles scud missiles into Kuwait? Was it really Kuwait that

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03:57:56,920 --> 03:58:02,319
was stealing his oil? I don't know, but I know

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03:58:02,559 --> 03:58:09,200
after he was thrown out of power, the country that

2811
03:58:09,239 --> 03:58:14,280
he fired missiles at stole all his oil and now

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03:58:14,360 --> 03:58:19,600
exports it. They have a thriving energy industry now seventh

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03:58:19,680 --> 03:58:25,680
largest in the world. Amazing, completely non existent anyways, and

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03:58:25,719 --> 03:58:26,200
said back.

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Speaker 1: We're we're gonna have to get back to the twenties

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03:58:28,200 --> 03:58:28,680
at some point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's that I'm back. America First Committee. So, speaking

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03:58:36,360 --> 03:58:39,920
of skull and bones, it was founded at Yale Law School.

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One of the men that were was a part of it.

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To just to get you an idea of who made

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03:58:48,680 --> 03:58:52,159
up these fine gentlemen. You had a young Gerald Ford

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03:58:52,840 --> 03:59:00,079
and a one Potter Steward, future Supreme Court judge, and

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03:59:01,120 --> 03:59:07,360
the main policy point was to keep America out of

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03:59:07,440 --> 03:59:12,680
war in Europe. The founding of the America First Committee

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03:59:13,239 --> 03:59:18,840
happened after the defeat largely on the continent of the

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03:59:18,920 --> 03:59:23,879
other European powers. Right, so the Battle of Britain England

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03:59:23,879 --> 03:59:27,920
getting its ass kicked in the air had already been

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03:59:28,000 --> 03:59:31,079
underway for two months at this point lend Lease had

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03:59:31,200 --> 03:59:36,879
just been announced and everybody started to see the setup.

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03:59:39,079 --> 03:59:42,600
Everybody tries to say that Charles Lindberg was a Nazi sympathizer.

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I would say he's a Nazi respector only because of

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03:59:50,959 --> 03:59:54,959
having toured there and seen their capabilities, right as in

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03:59:55,559 --> 03:59:58,559
the same way I respect Russia. I don't love Russia.

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03:59:58,600 --> 04:00:02,239
I'm not sympathetic to RUSSI, but they have more nukes

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04:00:02,239 --> 04:00:05,440
than we do. And apparently, as of like last month,

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they have new ways of delivering those missiles or sorry,

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04:00:09,440 --> 04:00:13,840
those warheads. So I respect their military capability. And that's

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04:00:13,920 --> 04:00:20,840
basically what Lindberg that was his opinion as well. But

2839
04:00:20,959 --> 04:00:25,040
what about Stormy? But what about the pictures, the pictures

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04:00:25,200 --> 04:00:34,079
of mister Charles Lindberg with Hermann Gurring and he was

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04:00:34,120 --> 04:00:40,040
awarded the what is it the iron Cross? I can't

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04:00:40,079 --> 04:00:43,840
remember the metal? Thomas seven seven seven somewhere is chimping

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04:00:43,879 --> 04:00:48,319
at me. I'm sorry, Thomas, keep going.

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Speaker 1: I'll look it up.

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04:00:49,520 --> 04:00:53,600
Speaker 2: But why was he in there? Why was he in Germany?

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04:00:54,399 --> 04:00:58,479
Because he was living in Britain at the time after

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04:00:58,559 --> 04:01:03,360
his son was murdered viciously, his infant son was called

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04:01:03,360 --> 04:01:09,879
the crime of the century, all right, Well, was he

2849
04:01:09,959 --> 04:01:14,680
was in Germany at the behest of the State Department, sorry,

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04:01:14,719 --> 04:01:19,120
the war Department, and at the explicit invitation of the

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04:01:19,280 --> 04:01:27,319
US embassy in Germany for the purpose of gathering intelligence

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04:01:29,600 --> 04:01:38,280
on Reich airpower and aircraft production. Herman Gurin is an aviator.

2853
04:01:39,760 --> 04:01:44,440
Charles Lindberg was the most famous aviator in the entire

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04:01:44,559 --> 04:01:49,920
world times like one hundred. He was like Elvis people

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04:01:49,959 --> 04:01:56,200
got trampled when he landed in Paris, right there were

2856
04:01:56,239 --> 04:02:00,639
so many people rushing the airfield, which is a pretty

2857
04:02:00,680 --> 04:02:06,040
fucking wide open space, not exactly crowded, and twenty people

2858
04:02:06,040 --> 04:02:12,760
were still crushed to death there. It's estimated a really

2859
04:02:12,799 --> 04:02:16,159
good book to read if you can get your hands

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04:02:16,200 --> 04:02:22,319
on it. It is hard to find, but you know,

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04:02:22,440 --> 04:02:30,840
let me pull it up. It is written by the

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the aide de camp of one of America's most famous ambassadors,

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04:02:37,200 --> 04:02:43,840
former Governor of Ohio, Myron t Herrick. The book is

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04:02:44,040 --> 04:02:50,319
titled Myron t Herrick, Friend of France and Auto Biographical

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04:02:50,879 --> 04:02:54,440
Biography and was written after his death. I mean, this

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04:02:54,520 --> 04:02:59,239
guy's uber famous at the time. The French actually put

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04:02:59,319 --> 04:03:03,239
him on their currency. I think it's like the five

2868
04:03:03,319 --> 04:03:08,079
franc piece I can't remember for many years, a whole

2869
04:03:08,079 --> 04:03:10,840
bunch of streets named after him, including the one that

2870
04:03:10,879 --> 04:03:14,719
the US embassy is on currently, and a bunch of

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04:03:14,719 --> 04:03:18,120
statues all over the place. Basically, he was the only

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04:03:18,600 --> 04:03:22,319
ambassador that didn't run away when the Germans in World

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04:03:22,360 --> 04:03:27,360
War One were literally miles outside of Paris. It looked

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04:03:27,399 --> 04:03:33,159
like everyone expected the Germans to be to capture Paris

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04:03:33,159 --> 04:03:35,200
within a month. I mean, the government had already made

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04:03:35,239 --> 04:03:41,920
plans to evacuate, and mister Herrick didn't feel like going anywhere.

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04:03:42,440 --> 04:03:46,639
So he got a bunch of howitzers and some gatling

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04:03:46,680 --> 04:03:51,520
guns and a hundred marines and turned the embassy into

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04:03:51,600 --> 04:03:54,399
a fortress and was like, fuck you, I'm not going anywhere.

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04:03:54,920 --> 04:03:57,239
And the French loved him for that. He won the

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04:03:58,000 --> 04:04:00,559
he was awarded the Legion of Honor whatever. He was

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04:04:00,600 --> 04:04:05,879
the guy that received Lindberg in the landing of the

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04:04:05,920 --> 04:04:11,479
super famous flight. So his account of what the public

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04:04:12,000 --> 04:04:18,040
he was also Lindbergh's. It was the first that those

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04:04:18,079 --> 04:04:26,559
two had met, and he would later Lindberg would become

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04:04:26,600 --> 04:04:30,440
the political protege of Myron. So if you want to

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04:04:30,479 --> 04:04:33,079
know about Myron, or so if you want to know

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04:04:33,120 --> 04:04:39,879
about Lindberg and his political worldview and where it came from,

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04:04:41,360 --> 04:04:48,719
Myron is probably the place to start. But yeah, this

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was probably the biggest event to happen in Paris in

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04:04:52,079 --> 04:04:54,840
one hundred years, as far as like individuals coming to

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04:04:55,000 --> 04:04:58,959
see a specific event that wasn't you know, like beheading

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04:04:59,239 --> 04:05:02,639
or you know, something like that. It was the biggest

2894
04:05:02,680 --> 04:05:06,799
like public spectacle, and he was the most popular man

2895
04:05:06,799 --> 04:05:13,479
in the world. Charles Lenberg was so Herman. Gerring like

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04:05:14,479 --> 04:05:17,000
jumped out of his chair when the ambassador was like,

2897
04:05:17,120 --> 04:05:21,399
I think I could probably get mister Charles Lindberg to

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04:05:21,440 --> 04:05:25,440
come over, because at this point in time, you know,

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04:05:25,719 --> 04:05:29,239
the Germans were not doing so bad in the Battle

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04:05:29,239 --> 04:05:35,200
of Britain and generally on the continent were viewed as unstoppable.

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04:05:35,600 --> 04:05:41,399
So a very famous German fighter pilot gets a chance

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04:05:42,040 --> 04:05:46,600
to show off all his new toys and the military

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04:05:46,719 --> 04:05:53,280
might of a now strong Germany to the most famous

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04:05:53,280 --> 04:06:00,440
pilot in the world. Of course, absolutely right, So what

2905
04:06:00,479 --> 04:06:03,000
if the war department, you know, who cares if the

2906
04:06:03,040 --> 04:06:06,159
Americans learn how strong we are or see how many

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04:06:06,159 --> 04:06:09,520
planes we crank out? I get to hang out with like.

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04:06:09,719 --> 04:06:14,200
I don't know if he was Gurring's idol, but the

2909
04:06:14,319 --> 04:06:17,799
excitement like Gurring like it took him home, like showed

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04:06:17,879 --> 04:06:22,239
him his house. He was super. The pictures of Gurring

2911
04:06:22,520 --> 04:06:25,719
and Lindberg are very, very funny as far as like

2912
04:06:25,760 --> 04:06:28,959
how excited and kid in the candy store Gerring looks.

2913
04:06:29,120 --> 04:06:34,280
It's it's pretty, it's pretty awesome. But he was awarded.

2914
04:06:35,600 --> 04:06:38,920
Uh what's you call? What's the did you find the

2915
04:06:39,000 --> 04:06:40,120
name of that that medal.

2916
04:06:41,159 --> 04:06:43,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the Service Cross of the German Eagle.

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04:06:44,120 --> 04:06:50,079
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah. Nobody, including Lindbergh and everybody else at that dinner,

2918
04:06:50,319 --> 04:06:54,879
was expecting to get an award. Gurring kind of surprised everybody,

2919
04:06:57,600 --> 04:07:00,520
and of course a bunch of pictures were taken and

2920
04:07:02,120 --> 04:07:10,319
a very hostile press took this. And I believe because

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04:07:10,520 --> 04:07:20,639
his associations and his intimacies with Henry Ford Edison and

2922
04:07:20,719 --> 04:07:26,079
Myron Myron Herrick. Myron Herrick is also a besides the

2923
04:07:26,159 --> 04:07:29,719
governor of Ohio, he was a big wig in Republican

2924
04:07:29,760 --> 04:07:36,319
Party politics and is the primary reason what is it

2925
04:07:36,399 --> 04:07:41,360
Calvin Coolidge was that I'm trying to think. I think

2926
04:07:41,399 --> 04:07:43,280
it was Calvin Coolidge. I think belaef I'm blanking on this,

2927
04:07:44,200 --> 04:07:47,719
but was a big reason that the Republicans had won

2928
04:07:47,760 --> 04:07:51,520
the White House prior to FDR. No Herbert Hoover, there

2929
04:07:51,520 --> 04:08:01,200
we go. Fuck Jesus. Also the same man who gave

2930
04:08:02,159 --> 04:08:11,079
FDR his start in politics and recounted often how it

2931
04:08:11,120 --> 04:08:14,120
was the greatest mistake of his life. But he made

2932
04:08:14,159 --> 04:08:18,120
the deal, which you'll find in that book, to give

2933
04:08:19,559 --> 04:08:26,479
a position to a young Francis Dilano. Roosevelt at the

2934
04:08:26,799 --> 04:08:30,159
was it the under secretary of the Navy. It wasn't

2935
04:08:30,200 --> 04:08:32,399
secretary of the Navy. He was the guy right below it,

2936
04:08:34,559 --> 04:08:38,319
second in charge of the Navy at the time of

2937
04:08:38,360 --> 04:08:44,120
World War One, And in his memoirs he says specifically

2938
04:08:44,719 --> 04:08:49,360
he made he was forced to make the deal, all right,

2939
04:08:49,399 --> 04:08:58,319
to get Herbert Hoover in right at the caveat of

2940
04:08:59,360 --> 04:09:05,840
appointing out Dr who a vehement Democrat at that point

2941
04:09:05,920 --> 04:09:10,879
and an insane appointment for Republican administration to make. But

2942
04:09:11,040 --> 04:09:15,639
he said that was the deal that he had to

2943
04:09:15,719 --> 04:09:24,200
make with mister Bernard Baruk, he says, He says, the

2944
04:09:26,920 --> 04:09:30,120
I can't remember what he what, what words he used,

2945
04:09:30,159 --> 04:09:34,120
but a lot of derogatory words we probably shouldn't shouldn't

2946
04:09:34,120 --> 04:09:36,879
say on YouTube if this is gone on YouTube. But anyways,

2947
04:09:37,840 --> 04:09:45,040
mister Myron was not a fan. But basically he Lindberg's

2948
04:09:45,079 --> 04:09:49,719
associations had raised a lot of eyebrows of a certain group.

2949
04:09:50,799 --> 04:09:55,719
And when that photo with Gurring was taken the very

2950
04:09:57,200 --> 04:10:03,079
next week, it was on the front page of the

2951
04:10:03,120 --> 04:10:10,520
New York Times calling him a Nazi sympathizer, right saying

2952
04:10:10,520 --> 04:10:13,159
he was going there because he loved the Nazis. So much,

2953
04:10:14,639 --> 04:10:18,799
and that is the narrative to this day in the

2954
04:10:18,959 --> 04:10:26,959
entire time he was asked to go there by his country.

2955
04:10:27,600 --> 04:10:31,360
He would later go on to serve his country several

2956
04:10:31,399 --> 04:10:39,079
more times, except under far riskier circumstances. Also, while a

2957
04:10:39,200 --> 04:10:44,600
majority of the country's media was decrying him as a

2958
04:10:44,639 --> 04:10:51,040
traitor and a Nazi, neither of those allegations the fact

2959
04:10:51,079 --> 04:10:53,760
that they were coming from the halls of power and

2960
04:10:54,120 --> 04:10:56,000
literally out of the mouth of the President of the

2961
04:10:56,079 --> 04:11:00,520
United States of America. I was thinking of this the

2962
04:11:00,559 --> 04:11:09,520
other day, right if Joe Biden made a point to

2963
04:11:09,600 --> 04:11:14,000
where he was every time he got on the radio

2964
04:11:14,879 --> 04:11:18,280
or the television, I was talking about, how much of

2965
04:11:18,319 --> 04:11:23,680
a trader in a scumbag Stormy Waters is if all

2966
04:11:23,719 --> 04:11:26,399
the newspapers in America were calling me a trader in

2967
04:11:26,440 --> 04:11:36,079
a scumbag, and this idiot president decides to stumble us

2968
04:11:36,079 --> 04:11:41,920
into on purpose or in ignorance, stumble us into war

2969
04:11:42,000 --> 04:11:48,319
with Russia, a war that was easily avoidable, and a

2970
04:11:48,399 --> 04:11:53,200
war that eighty percent of the country by far more now,

2971
04:11:53,319 --> 04:11:55,200
but let's just say eighty percent of the country, because

2972
04:11:55,200 --> 04:11:56,799
that number is going to come back in a little bit.

2973
04:11:57,680 --> 04:12:02,120
Eighty percent of the country oppose. Right, So a war

2974
04:12:02,159 --> 04:12:06,360
that the American people don't want, and a war that

2975
04:12:08,079 --> 04:12:15,360
was a war of choice for a small, privileged, powerful

2976
04:12:15,399 --> 04:12:19,319
group of people in the American government, the deep state,

2977
04:12:19,360 --> 04:12:21,959
whatever you want, whatever term you want to use, or

2978
04:12:22,000 --> 04:12:26,959
through whatever lens you want to use. Right, it is

2979
04:12:27,079 --> 04:12:34,319
undeniable that the conflict we find ourselves in with the

2980
04:12:34,559 --> 04:12:39,200
ancient Russian people and the country that is over a

2981
04:12:39,280 --> 04:12:44,760
thousand years old is won entirely by choice, and a

2982
04:12:44,920 --> 04:12:49,040
choice that was not made by the people that would

2983
04:12:49,079 --> 04:12:53,120
end up fighting it. But let's just say that happened,

2984
04:12:54,079 --> 04:12:57,559
and Joe Biden at the same time telling America and

2985
04:12:57,639 --> 04:13:04,239
all the newspapers telling America that Stormy Waters is a traitor?

2986
04:13:06,479 --> 04:13:33,879
Would I have the the commitment to my nation and

2987
04:13:34,040 --> 04:13:41,159
what detonation is currently and what it once was. If

2988
04:13:41,200 --> 04:13:52,280
I would have the deace and calmness of soul two

2989
04:13:54,120 --> 04:13:58,840
basically not be moved by any of any of the

2990
04:13:58,840 --> 04:14:05,959
negative comments being made the president or the media. And

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04:14:06,040 --> 04:14:11,319
I would serve my country in a war that I hated,

2992
04:14:13,000 --> 04:14:16,360
an a war that I didn't support, in an a

2993
04:14:16,360 --> 04:14:20,879
war that most of America didn't support, including the men

2994
04:14:20,959 --> 04:14:28,399
fighting it. Would I have the courage and temerity to

2995
04:14:28,520 --> 04:14:35,520
do that. I don't know if I would, but he did.

2996
04:14:36,600 --> 04:14:41,719
And that's the type of American you're taught to hate.

2997
04:14:41,959 --> 04:14:49,239
Just typing Charles Lindberg into YouTube or into your podcatcher

2998
04:14:49,280 --> 04:14:54,479
of choice, and you will see hundreds, literally hundreds of

2999
04:14:55,840 --> 04:15:05,920
resentful little people that have never sacrificed anything in their life,

3000
04:15:06,479 --> 04:15:19,680
no hardship, suffered, none telling us how much of a Nazi,

3001
04:15:19,719 --> 04:15:21,399
how much of an anti Semite, how much of a

3002
04:15:21,440 --> 04:15:28,000
horrible person this man is. And what's even funnier is

3003
04:15:28,040 --> 04:15:35,120
that his service was secret, right, as in, he would

3004
04:15:35,120 --> 04:15:40,639
get no credit. No newspaper would ever report that Charles

3005
04:15:40,680 --> 04:15:44,000
Lindberg is in fact not a trader, and in fact

3006
04:15:44,680 --> 04:15:50,559
fighting for America in a warplane as we speak. He's

3007
04:15:50,600 --> 04:15:54,600
in fact not a trader. Nobody was ever going to

3008
04:15:54,639 --> 04:15:58,159
know that, and he knew that at the time. So

3009
04:15:58,239 --> 04:16:01,200
it's not like he was doing it to try and

3010
04:16:01,360 --> 04:16:04,360
get out of the allegations of being called the trader.

3011
04:16:05,719 --> 04:16:13,120
He was doing it again, here's that word that we

3012
04:16:13,239 --> 04:16:18,600
don't see anymore. He was doing it because he felt

3013
04:16:18,600 --> 04:16:20,879
the sense of duty. His nation was at war, so

3014
04:16:20,920 --> 04:16:23,920
therefore he was going to fight its enemies. Whether he

3015
04:16:23,959 --> 04:16:26,079
got credit for it or not, no matter what the

3016
04:16:26,079 --> 04:16:28,440
media said about him, no matter what the fucking present

3017
04:16:28,479 --> 04:16:31,760
of the United States in the White House at the

3018
04:16:31,879 --> 04:16:39,440
time said about him. So it was published twenty five

3019
04:16:39,559 --> 04:16:46,040
years after he left, or basically after the war was over,

3020
04:16:46,600 --> 04:16:49,680
because that's about the amount of time that he could

3021
04:16:49,719 --> 04:16:55,159
get in trouble for releasing classified information, which you know

3022
04:16:55,280 --> 04:16:58,559
at the time that he was doing it his combat

3023
04:16:58,600 --> 04:17:04,360
missions into Japan, and we don't know, but there is

3024
04:17:04,600 --> 04:17:07,639
a lot of suspicion that he took part in the

3025
04:17:07,639 --> 04:17:12,239
Doolittle raids. But what we do know is that this

3026
04:17:12,319 --> 04:17:18,000
man flew one hundred and eighty six combat hours in

3027
04:17:18,079 --> 04:17:22,760
the Pacific. That is about three times as much as

3028
04:17:22,879 --> 04:17:30,159
a typical combat airman would see over their tour of duty.

3029
04:17:31,040 --> 04:17:34,159
And nobody was going to know about it. Nobody was

3030
04:17:34,200 --> 04:17:35,719
going to he was He wasn't going to come home

3031
04:17:35,760 --> 04:17:37,520
and no longer be called a trader. He was going

3032
04:17:37,559 --> 04:17:40,120
to come home and still be called the trader, and

3033
04:17:40,159 --> 04:17:43,879
no one would know what he did or that he

3034
04:17:43,920 --> 04:17:47,479
in fact wasn't a trader. It was illegal against the

3035
04:17:47,559 --> 04:17:51,600
law for him to tell anybody what he did, and

3036
04:17:51,680 --> 04:17:55,760
he still did it. And I don't know when I

3037
04:17:55,760 --> 04:17:57,520
think about that feat, I don't know if I would

3038
04:17:57,559 --> 04:18:01,840
be that brave. I don't know about you.

3039
04:18:04,719 --> 04:18:07,399
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a difficult choice to make, especially when

3040
04:18:07,479 --> 04:18:12,639
you when you look at the way they they treat

3041
04:18:12,680 --> 04:18:15,920
people and the way they hound people. And even back then,

3042
04:18:16,239 --> 04:18:20,879
I mean McCarthy, McCarthy was already a drunk, you know

3043
04:18:21,000 --> 04:18:25,319
when all the hearings started and everything. But you know,

3044
04:18:25,559 --> 04:18:28,559
what they did to him just drove them to drove

3045
04:18:28,600 --> 04:18:31,200
it and drove them to drink that much more, you know.

3046
04:18:31,319 --> 04:18:35,639
So it's not you know, people have a tendency to

3047
04:18:35,639 --> 04:18:38,200
believe because we're in this information age and things can

3048
04:18:38,200 --> 04:18:41,000
get out over the internet and a split second that

3049
04:18:41,479 --> 04:18:44,079
you know, back then it would be harder to slender someone. Well,

3050
04:18:44,159 --> 04:18:46,280
not when everybody's reading the newspaper, and not when the

3051
04:18:46,319 --> 04:18:50,440
newspapers are you know, all printing the same thing and

3052
04:18:50,520 --> 04:18:57,840
they're controlled and they're being told what's what's a print? Yeah. Yeah,

3053
04:18:57,920 --> 04:19:03,399
they drove people. They they drove people to become pariahs.

3054
04:19:03,520 --> 04:19:05,120
Is just as much as they do it.

3055
04:19:05,040 --> 04:19:08,399
Speaker 2: Nowadays, even more so because at least on the Internet

3056
04:19:08,440 --> 04:19:10,719
you can post and you could say no, this is

3057
04:19:10,760 --> 04:19:14,799
not true. At least, yeah, attacking.

3058
04:19:14,440 --> 04:19:16,360
Speaker 1: But we also had more We also had a more

3059
04:19:16,440 --> 04:19:20,479
moral society back then, so people leapt to their morality

3060
04:19:20,760 --> 04:19:23,760
a lot quicker, and they took their morality a lot

3061
04:19:23,799 --> 04:19:26,559
more seriously. So if they thought somebody was treeson us

3062
04:19:26,639 --> 04:19:29,200
or something like that, that meant something to them. It's

3063
04:19:29,200 --> 04:19:32,520
not thrown around, you know like we like most people

3064
04:19:32,559 --> 04:19:33,079
do today.

3065
04:19:33,680 --> 04:19:36,239
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean Tucker Carlson has called the trader,

3066
04:19:36,719 --> 04:19:39,760
I mean Donald We thought the President of the United

3067
04:19:39,760 --> 04:19:44,040
States was a trader and an active Russian spot. I mean, like,

3068
04:19:44,239 --> 04:19:46,360
they just throw these words around like they don't mean anything,

3069
04:19:46,360 --> 04:19:49,000
But back then you were one hundred percent right. These

3070
04:19:49,040 --> 04:19:56,000
words meant things, which makes them all that more pernicious

3071
04:19:56,879 --> 04:20:01,719
about how they were being thrown around because the progressive

3072
04:20:04,280 --> 04:20:07,239
I hate to even call it the fucking New Deal, right,

3073
04:20:07,319 --> 04:20:11,280
or the New Deal regime, the New Deal administration, right,

3074
04:20:11,840 --> 04:20:16,399
because that's not what the men at the time fighting

3075
04:20:16,840 --> 04:20:20,920
what FDR was doing to the country thought. And the

3076
04:20:21,000 --> 04:20:25,280
last episode I did with you, Pete, we read some

3077
04:20:25,360 --> 04:20:28,639
of the speeches that were given by the head of

3078
04:20:28,680 --> 04:20:36,200
the Democratic Party and former presidential candidate Al Smith and

3079
04:20:36,239 --> 04:20:38,920
what he thought the New Deal was and he had

3080
04:20:39,000 --> 04:20:45,079
just gotten FDR elected, so it obviously wasn't going Basically

3081
04:20:45,120 --> 04:20:48,399
what he was told was going to happen in the

3082
04:20:48,440 --> 04:20:51,200
FDR administration did not happen if something else happened instead.

3083
04:20:52,479 --> 04:20:54,079
So like, I hate to even call it the New

3084
04:20:54,120 --> 04:21:00,760
Deal regime, because the men at the time saw it

3085
04:21:01,000 --> 04:21:08,079
as communism being driven by a foreign group of people,

3086
04:21:09,159 --> 04:21:15,559
both within and without and from without. So right, the

3087
04:21:15,719 --> 04:21:23,440
entire New Deal regime came kind of crashing down on

3088
04:21:24,520 --> 04:21:27,040
the on him and pretty much all of the other

3089
04:21:27,159 --> 04:21:36,840
men that stood up to it. And now, like, none

3090
04:21:36,879 --> 04:21:38,879
of the hell that we live in today would be

3091
04:21:38,959 --> 04:21:44,040
possible if it wasn't for this, And you could say, like,

3092
04:21:44,200 --> 04:21:48,120
oh yeah, you know, there were still subversives, and you know,

3093
04:21:48,239 --> 04:21:50,280
oh yeah, this group has been in here doing all

3094
04:21:50,280 --> 04:21:52,079
this other bad stuff for a very long time. Look

3095
04:21:52,079 --> 04:21:56,719
at the Schofield Bible, but nothing nothing like the fucking

3096
04:21:56,799 --> 04:22:00,760
New Deal. It's fundamental. It was a It was a

3097
04:22:00,799 --> 04:22:05,600
revolution no different than seventeen seventy six, as it fundamentally

3098
04:22:05,680 --> 04:22:11,680
changed the governance structure and the relationship the dialogue between

3099
04:22:12,200 --> 04:22:17,319
American citizen and his government forever. And I had to

3100
04:22:17,360 --> 04:22:19,079
bring up mark and trees and again, but he's a

3101
04:22:19,120 --> 04:22:25,319
really smart guy. I respect that guy a lot. But

3102
04:22:25,520 --> 04:22:28,600
I don't think anybody, even in our spheres that know

3103
04:22:28,680 --> 04:22:31,639
how pernicious the regime has I don't think. I think

3104
04:22:31,680 --> 04:22:33,840
what he said on that Joe Rogan interview came as

3105
04:22:33,879 --> 04:22:36,239
a surprise to most people. It came as a surprise

3106
04:22:36,280 --> 04:22:38,280
to me. And I fucking think about this shit every day.

3107
04:22:39,520 --> 04:22:46,559
I'm pretty smart. Like the level of persecution at like

3108
04:22:46,600 --> 04:22:52,040
a granular level was just shocking to me. And like

3109
04:22:52,200 --> 04:22:58,079
the the fact that like Elizabeth Warren has her own

3110
04:22:58,120 --> 04:23:01,840
attack agency that not only isn't in the constitution anywhere,

3111
04:23:01,879 --> 04:23:05,319
but isn't accountable to anybody because she's a senator, she

3112
04:23:05,399 --> 04:23:11,000
has no authority to have an agency, but she does so.

3113
04:23:11,079 --> 04:23:15,440
Like the agency isn't supposed to exist. You can't sue it,

3114
04:23:19,680 --> 04:23:24,040
and you certainly can't stop it. You can't like call

3115
04:23:24,159 --> 04:23:26,360
up a number and talk to a manager that like

3116
04:23:26,520 --> 04:23:29,600
there's no you're just being it may as well being

3117
04:23:30,399 --> 04:23:35,959
It may as well be persecution from a demonic entity. Right.

3118
04:23:36,040 --> 04:23:41,319
It's just you know, this persecution that is happening everywhere,

3119
04:23:41,360 --> 04:23:45,079
all at once, and you can't figure out where it's

3120
04:23:45,120 --> 04:23:47,559
coming from. There's no way to put your finger on

3121
04:23:47,680 --> 04:23:51,479
it to get a hold of what's you know, what's

3122
04:23:51,479 --> 04:23:59,520
afflicting you. There's no you know, command structure that you

3123
04:23:59,600 --> 04:24:07,120
can air your grievances with. It's just insane. And all

3124
04:24:07,200 --> 04:24:09,239
this came from the New Deal. And I don't think he,

3125
04:24:10,520 --> 04:24:14,879
I don't think we. I think we've become a little

3126
04:24:14,879 --> 04:24:25,159
bit hyper focused on a specific, a specific aspect of

3127
04:24:25,200 --> 04:24:30,000
the regime and we kind of miss we sometimes missed

3128
04:24:30,000 --> 04:24:34,319
the meta you know of it all right, like the

3129
04:24:34,399 --> 04:24:43,799
thing in its entirety. But anyways, if it wasn't if

3130
04:24:43,840 --> 04:24:46,959
it was anybody else besides Charles Lindberg, I think they

3131
04:24:47,000 --> 04:24:53,399
would have been sunk because his popularity, like I said,

3132
04:24:53,600 --> 04:25:00,639
was hard to describe or hard to contextualize in modern

3133
04:25:00,639 --> 04:25:05,360
times anyways, because like, yeah, there's famous people, but there's

3134
04:25:05,360 --> 04:25:08,520
also so many famous people and people that are famous

3135
04:25:08,559 --> 04:25:10,600
in all these different ways, and there's all these really

3136
04:25:11,040 --> 04:25:13,799
like different niches. But like Pete to what you were

3137
04:25:13,840 --> 04:25:16,440
talking about, about, how there really was only newspaper and

3138
04:25:16,559 --> 04:25:23,559
radio and if you controlled those things, you literally controlled

3139
04:25:23,559 --> 04:25:27,920
the entire public dialogue. Right. No one was you know,

3140
04:25:28,120 --> 04:25:34,319
getting finding new bands on SoundCloud, right, the only music

3141
04:25:35,120 --> 04:25:40,879
you were exposed to. Was the music that was shown

3142
04:25:40,959 --> 04:25:44,719
to you. The only news that you were exposed to,

3143
04:25:46,799 --> 04:25:52,760
your whole conceptual your whole conceptual reality, all right, and

3144
04:25:53,040 --> 04:25:58,360
this is this is public consensus. Reality was dictated through

3145
04:25:58,639 --> 04:26:06,280
two business verticals, radio and print media. That's it. You

3146
04:26:06,360 --> 04:26:14,639
had total paradigm control, at least they thought. So. You know,

3147
04:26:15,159 --> 04:26:19,559
when someone becomes very well known like in those days,

3148
04:26:19,600 --> 04:26:24,280
like it was kind of similar in the sixties kind of,

3149
04:26:26,000 --> 04:26:28,840
but there was no like thriving subcultures or anything like that.

3150
04:26:29,239 --> 04:26:31,600
So if you think of how popular the Beatles were,

3151
04:26:33,600 --> 04:26:35,120
Charles Lindberg was more popular.

3152
04:26:36,920 --> 04:26:41,200
Speaker 1: I think I think I have a better maybe a

3153
04:26:41,399 --> 04:26:48,559
stronger astronauts. Oh yes, like like Neil Armstrong, yeah, yes,

3154
04:26:48,760 --> 04:26:51,079
as Aldrin, yeah.

3155
04:26:50,520 --> 04:26:54,479
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah. These So these were celebrities and

3156
04:26:54,639 --> 04:26:58,360
national heroes at the same time as well as international

3157
04:26:58,399 --> 04:27:03,159
sensations like and being an astronaut was like quite literally

3158
04:27:03,200 --> 04:27:05,639
like being in the Beatles, like you were that like

3159
04:27:05,799 --> 04:27:11,040
you were getting pussy that easy. And if the if

3160
04:27:11,079 --> 04:27:15,280
the Astronauts happened to have, you know, been on stage

3161
04:27:15,280 --> 04:27:18,239
a lot, which they luckily they hadn't, I'm sure panties

3162
04:27:18,239 --> 04:27:24,159
would have been thrown at them as well. But yeah,

3163
04:27:24,280 --> 04:27:31,040
so luckily Charles Lindberg was popular. He had a voice,

3164
04:27:31,239 --> 04:27:41,399
and he could he had really good advisors. So the

3165
04:27:41,440 --> 04:27:46,719
way he spoke was very much the way Donald Trump speaks. Also,

3166
04:27:46,760 --> 04:27:53,399
in that book by by Ambassador mister Myron, he talks

3167
04:27:53,440 --> 04:28:01,120
about like he heard Charles's speech and was like it

3168
04:28:01,200 --> 04:28:02,879
was so natural that it was. It was like he

3169
04:28:03,000 --> 04:28:08,319
was just he was basically just saying the whatever was

3170
04:28:08,360 --> 04:28:10,399
on his mind, like as it came into his mind,

3171
04:28:10,479 --> 04:28:14,920
like very very much like Donald Trump, and Myron like

3172
04:28:15,040 --> 04:28:21,200
recounts how he's like to the average you know, uninitiated observer,

3173
04:28:23,239 --> 04:28:27,840
what he's doing looks very very easy. But to an

3174
04:28:27,879 --> 04:28:36,520
experience public speaker or rhetorician, like he was like a prodigy.

3175
04:28:37,239 --> 04:28:39,680
It was Charles Limberg like you know, it wasn't taking

3176
04:28:39,719 --> 04:28:44,239
like public speaking class, like he just was a fucking natural,

3177
04:28:46,799 --> 04:28:51,680
very much like Trump is. And he spoke in a

3178
04:28:53,559 --> 04:28:58,399
I urge everyone to listen to I know, kind of

3179
04:28:58,440 --> 04:29:03,120
like the Hitler a eye translation. Speeches are going viral,

3180
04:29:04,079 --> 04:29:08,840
which is great. I think that's awesome because if everybody,

3181
04:29:08,879 --> 04:29:18,159
if anybody, still thinks that national socialism was about, you know,

3182
04:29:19,159 --> 04:29:26,520
just hating Jews or you know, global conquest or any

3183
04:29:26,559 --> 04:29:33,760
of the you know, American secular state religion belief structures.

3184
04:29:35,040 --> 04:29:43,440
The second you hear you know, Adolf Hitler speaking and

3185
04:29:45,639 --> 04:29:49,959
what he's speaking about, all that goes away immediately, Like

3186
04:29:50,079 --> 04:29:54,479
if you replace the word Germany, that could have been

3187
04:29:54,559 --> 04:29:57,479
any America, Like that could have come out of Donald

3188
04:29:57,520 --> 04:30:01,719
Trump's mouth. Well, not so much Donald Trump, because he

3189
04:30:01,719 --> 04:30:06,959
he seems to like or be comfortable with our media environment, right,

3190
04:30:07,719 --> 04:30:10,360
probably because he's so good at playing them for fools,

3191
04:30:10,360 --> 04:30:13,200
Like he literally fucking lives not just lives in their

3192
04:30:13,520 --> 04:30:19,879
head rent free, like he owns them, right, They're they're

3193
04:30:19,920 --> 04:30:27,879
so reactive to him. He basically puppeteers them. But outside

3194
04:30:27,920 --> 04:30:32,399
of outside of that, all of the other aspects of

3195
04:30:32,440 --> 04:30:37,280
the NSDAPS, Yeah, policy positions, it's I think it's it's

3196
04:30:37,319 --> 04:30:43,120
twenty planks. You would want any US politician to be

3197
04:30:43,159 --> 04:30:46,600
saying the exact same thing, and you're like, oh, maybe

3198
04:30:46,600 --> 04:30:52,200
this was about something different. I urge everyone to look

3199
04:30:52,280 --> 04:30:59,520
up the uh it's called the des Moines, Iowa speech,

3200
04:31:00,680 --> 04:31:06,239
so Charles Lindberg on September the eleventh, nineteen forty one

3201
04:31:06,639 --> 04:31:11,280
in des Moines, Iowa. Is a speech I'm gonna I forgot.

3202
04:31:11,440 --> 04:31:14,120
I can't because I'm I'm in the time out box.

3203
04:31:15,920 --> 04:31:19,639
I would post it to Twitter, but when I'm allowed

3204
04:31:19,680 --> 04:31:23,719
back on Twitter, i will. I will do that. Or

3205
04:31:23,959 --> 04:31:28,200
anybody that's listening, any of the early listeners, thank you

3206
04:31:28,280 --> 04:31:31,680
for you know, supporting one of the best guys in

3207
04:31:31,719 --> 04:31:34,840
our sphere with your money. Like the thing that matter

3208
04:31:34,879 --> 04:31:38,920
is mister Pequinonas. But yeah, if you get access to

3209
04:31:38,959 --> 04:31:41,760
this early and you know it comes out quickly, just

3210
04:31:41,760 --> 04:31:45,879
just start dropping that speech on your timeline. People need

3211
04:31:45,920 --> 04:31:54,000
to hear it. It's that good, it really is. And

3212
04:31:54,040 --> 04:31:56,280
that'll give you a really good idea about what America

3213
04:31:56,319 --> 04:32:00,520
First was about. And I'll leave some stuff out so

3214
04:32:00,639 --> 04:32:03,000
the man himself can tell you because I think it'll

3215
04:32:03,040 --> 04:32:07,159
be better that way. But what he did say what

3216
04:32:07,399 --> 04:32:13,200
caused outright insanity And if the press hated him before,

3217
04:32:14,319 --> 04:32:17,920
but again, so we say the press hated him and

3218
04:32:18,159 --> 04:32:23,520
FDR hated him were vehemently denouncing him. It was very

3219
04:32:23,600 --> 04:32:26,159
much like a Donald Trump phenomena where all of the

3220
04:32:26,239 --> 04:32:31,399
consensus media and consensus policy you know people and the

3221
04:32:31,479 --> 04:32:34,920
you know important people all one hundred percent agree that

3222
04:32:34,920 --> 04:32:37,680
Donald Trump is the worst. And then you know, the

3223
04:32:37,799 --> 04:32:39,559
vast majority of the country is like, yeah, we don't

3224
04:32:39,719 --> 04:32:44,079
give a shit. We think he's great. Eighty percent of

3225
04:32:44,120 --> 04:32:54,200
America supported America first, it's policy positions of non interventionism, right,

3226
04:32:54,239 --> 04:33:02,280
So eighty percent of the country was against any type

3227
04:33:02,440 --> 04:33:08,959
of military involvement, whether it be logistical support, arms support,

3228
04:33:10,400 --> 04:33:16,799
and most of all, you know, troops on the ground.

3229
04:33:17,319 --> 04:33:23,040
Eighty percent of the country was isolationists. They say isolations

3230
04:33:23,080 --> 04:33:27,200
like it's a bad thing, like these bad isolationists. Yeah. Sorry,

3231
04:33:27,279 --> 04:33:30,240
Access to my nation's wealth isn't a fucking human right.

3232
04:33:33,400 --> 04:33:37,840
Access to my prosperity and the most valuable things in

3233
04:33:37,880 --> 04:33:51,279
my nation, which are farmers boys in Iowa, bricklayers kids

3234
04:33:51,319 --> 04:33:59,919
in New England, right, and farmers sons in the sun

3235
04:34:04,159 --> 04:34:20,240
and some electricians kid on the West Coast. That's America's

3236
04:34:20,240 --> 04:34:24,439
most valuable resource, and access to it is not a

3237
04:34:24,520 --> 04:34:29,159
human right. Isolationism is probably the most noble thing that

3238
04:34:29,159 --> 04:34:39,880
we can do, because, frankly, no other nation has the

3239
04:34:40,000 --> 04:34:48,520
right to American blood. I don't care if your nation

3240
04:34:48,840 --> 04:34:52,880
has a right to exist or whatever. I don't care.

3241
04:34:54,840 --> 04:35:00,000
You're not my people. I don't give a shit about you.

3242
04:35:00,080 --> 04:35:04,959
Speaker 1: It also, it also shows respect for other people's cultures.

3243
04:35:05,080 --> 04:35:07,959
We're not going to fuck with you. Yes, you get

3244
04:35:08,000 --> 04:35:11,040
to have, you get to have your culture, You get

3245
04:35:11,080 --> 04:35:14,560
to have whatever you have. Don't fuck with us. You know,

3246
04:35:14,599 --> 04:35:16,599
if you want to, if there's something you want to trade,

3247
04:35:16,799 --> 04:35:22,159
we'll have a talk. If not, you know, God bless,

3248
04:35:22,200 --> 04:35:27,000
don't fuck with us. Yeah, but if you But apparently,

3249
04:35:27,360 --> 04:35:31,319
if they move here illegally, and then they subvert the nation,

3250
04:35:31,720 --> 04:35:36,360
they subvert the culture, they subvert the government, they subvert everything,

3251
04:35:36,799 --> 04:35:38,119
well that's okay.

3252
04:35:38,279 --> 04:35:39,119
Speaker 2: And they don't fight.

3253
04:35:41,119 --> 04:35:41,599
Speaker 1: No.

3254
04:35:41,959 --> 04:35:48,720
Speaker 2: Nine of combat arms just happens to be one ethnic demographic.

3255
04:35:50,400 --> 04:35:56,119
Ninety six percent of combat arms moss or sorry, ninety

3256
04:35:57,319 --> 04:35:59,840
like that. And the special forces, I think it's eighty

3257
04:36:01,520 --> 04:36:08,720
high eighties. In the regular the broader, Marine Corps and Army,

3258
04:36:10,159 --> 04:36:14,360
it's white boys. It's white American boys. That's who does

3259
04:36:14,400 --> 04:36:18,560
the fighting. So I don't care how smart your Indian

3260
04:36:18,639 --> 04:36:26,439
friend is. I don't care how nice your Venezuelan housekeeper is.

3261
04:36:27,240 --> 04:36:31,400
I don't give a fuck. I don't care if they

3262
04:36:31,439 --> 04:36:35,200
came here legally. I don't care if they flew here

3263
04:36:35,279 --> 04:36:42,159
on wings they grew on their backs. Don't fucking care

3264
04:36:44,759 --> 04:36:52,560
because they don't fight, and who fights, well, patriots fight,

3265
04:36:53,560 --> 04:36:56,279
So I guess they didn't assimilate, did they. I guess

3266
04:36:56,319 --> 04:37:04,080
they really don't share our values, do they? Because they

3267
04:37:04,080 --> 04:37:10,040
don't fight. They won't fight for those values, so therefore

3268
04:37:10,159 --> 04:37:14,840
they don't have them. Because you only believe something if

3269
04:37:14,880 --> 04:37:19,520
you're willing to die for it. Anything else is a

3270
04:37:19,560 --> 04:37:27,080
fucking hobby. And these people don't fight, so they don't believe,

3271
04:37:27,759 --> 04:37:32,560
so they don't share your values. They don't share your

3272
04:37:32,560 --> 04:37:37,479
belief is the Vectraamaswami. Is he gonna is he gonna

3273
04:37:37,479 --> 04:37:40,040
pick up a gun? Is he gonna go fight? I

3274
04:37:40,040 --> 04:37:49,159
don't think he is? Is What was that Chinese motherfucker

3275
04:37:49,479 --> 04:37:58,840
Alex Wang? Was it? Wang was running for office? Is

3276
04:37:58,840 --> 04:38:02,959
he gonna pick up a gun? Is he gonna fight? No,

3277
04:38:03,119 --> 04:38:12,119
he's not, because he doesn't believe. And nobody has the

3278
04:38:12,240 --> 04:38:28,680
right to have young Iowa farm boys trying to stuff

3279
04:38:28,759 --> 04:38:34,119
their guts back in their stomachs as they scream.

3280
04:38:38,200 --> 04:38:42,439
Speaker 1: Because a certain group in nineteen thirty three decided that

3281
04:38:42,479 --> 04:38:45,639
they were They didn't even have a country, and they

3282
04:38:45,720 --> 04:38:49,720
decided that they were going to declare war upon a nation.

3283
04:38:50,759 --> 04:38:53,599
And a nation is not a country. A nation is

3284
04:38:53,639 --> 04:38:54,200
a people.

3285
04:38:55,040 --> 04:39:01,799
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a race. Culture is ethnic, culture is genetic.

3286
04:39:02,799 --> 04:39:07,799
Culture is racial. So they didn't have enough men to fight,

3287
04:39:10,040 --> 04:39:12,279
So how are they going to fight this war that

3288
04:39:12,319 --> 04:39:21,000
they just declared. They're not exactly a fighting people, as

3289
04:39:21,040 --> 04:39:26,200
mister Nettan Yahoo is finding out right now because he

3290
04:39:26,279 --> 04:39:34,959
can't get a certain subset of those people to fight,

3291
04:39:36,720 --> 04:39:37,799
they refuse to much.

3292
04:39:38,720 --> 04:39:42,479
Speaker 1: They're such a non fighting people. They're such a people

3293
04:39:42,560 --> 04:39:46,599
that doesn't fight that in their own country. They have

3294
04:39:46,680 --> 04:39:51,360
to have mandatory yeah, draft, because no one will join.

3295
04:39:52,319 --> 04:39:56,479
Speaker 2: You can tell who's who believes something by who is

3296
04:39:56,479 --> 04:40:01,959
willing to die for it. And October eighth of twenty

3297
04:40:02,000 --> 04:40:08,799
twenty three, was it one fifth? One fourth of that

3298
04:40:08,959 --> 04:40:15,599
population went to the airport on one way flight. So

3299
04:40:15,639 --> 04:40:16,599
whose land is it?

3300
04:40:18,119 --> 04:40:21,400
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny when I when I moved to

3301
04:40:21,880 --> 04:40:24,919
after high school, when I moved down to South Florida,

3302
04:40:25,560 --> 04:40:27,880
it was described to me. They were like, you know,

3303
04:40:28,040 --> 04:40:31,119
it's the one thing about South Florida is you know,

3304
04:40:31,319 --> 04:40:35,080
you're going to find out that it's very transient. I

3305
04:40:35,080 --> 04:40:39,240
didn't really understand what that meant. Yes, you're I didn't

3306
04:40:39,279 --> 04:40:42,319
understand what that meant until years later, when you know,

3307
04:40:42,360 --> 04:40:48,000
when I learned other terms like rootless.

3308
04:40:47,319 --> 04:40:52,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, and cosmopolitans at literally everyone from Florida's from somewhere else,

3309
04:40:52,520 --> 04:40:58,400
particularly South Florida. South Florida's like this, and really anything

3310
04:40:58,599 --> 04:41:07,319
south of Palm Beach is you know, West tel Aviv

3311
04:41:09,479 --> 04:41:18,680
or North Cuba or North Haiti or North Puerto Rico

3312
04:41:20,319 --> 04:41:27,919
or or or or western Russia or now western Ukraine.

3313
04:41:28,360 --> 04:41:33,080
The South Florida is a fucking mess. I can't wait

3314
04:41:33,080 --> 04:41:35,400
to get out of here. Luckily, I live in the

3315
04:41:35,479 --> 04:41:43,880
last bastion of you know, wasp culture and wasp demographics.

3316
04:41:44,799 --> 04:41:48,520
But I'm sure that's about to change sooner or later.

3317
04:41:48,799 --> 04:41:55,200
The population of Florida has tripled since COVID. It just

3318
04:41:55,279 --> 04:42:02,400
it doesn't agree with my cultural soul. Florida is an

3319
04:42:02,479 --> 04:42:07,560
ugly place. It really is. I don't fucking like the beach, Okay,

3320
04:42:07,599 --> 04:42:09,520
so what else is there to look at? Nothing? It's

3321
04:42:09,560 --> 04:42:12,200
flat and it's either.

3322
04:42:11,959 --> 04:42:16,240
Speaker 1: Swarm South, yeah, the true South, the Midwest where people

3323
04:42:16,799 --> 04:42:21,200
actually put down roots. That's that's what America.

3324
04:42:21,639 --> 04:42:24,639
Speaker 2: Was, funny. That's the only place where men that fight

3325
04:42:24,720 --> 04:42:33,959
come from, m men that are going to be torn

3326
04:42:34,000 --> 04:42:42,200
apart by sharks in the middle of the Pacific slowly

3327
04:42:42,200 --> 04:42:48,560
bleeding out on a beach that they can't pronounce in Europe. Right,

3328
04:42:48,720 --> 04:42:56,599
that's where those men come from, and those are the

3329
04:42:56,639 --> 04:43:04,119
only men. I find it very interesting that make up

3330
04:43:04,119 --> 04:43:09,319
our sphere, not too you know, fire shots or whatever.

3331
04:43:09,319 --> 04:43:13,799
I'm not going to I am a New Englander. That's

3332
04:43:14,119 --> 04:43:18,919
where I was born and raised and my family has

3333
04:43:19,000 --> 04:43:27,279
been since the sixteen forties. But when it comes to

3334
04:43:27,400 --> 04:43:34,799
like people in our thing, I find like the people

3335
04:43:35,959 --> 04:43:41,840
from New York, no offense, that still live there, that

3336
04:43:41,959 --> 04:43:46,439
choose to live there in the city, are all just

3337
04:43:46,799 --> 04:43:50,840
wearing our thing around like a skin suit, like a

3338
04:43:50,959 --> 04:43:59,119
Fendi handbag or you know some Louisveiton Duffel bag where

3339
04:43:59,799 --> 04:44:07,040
you know now name a shoe. It's a fashion accessory.

3340
04:44:07,159 --> 04:44:15,959
It's the edgy, transgressive thing, right, It's fun to talk

3341
04:44:15,959 --> 04:44:21,159
about doing a racism and they don't believe any of

3342
04:44:21,200 --> 04:44:25,680
the things. So few of them. I've met a precious

3343
04:44:25,680 --> 04:44:31,360
few from New York City that believe what I believe,

3344
04:44:32,639 --> 04:44:39,959
did the degree that I believe, with the acceptance of

3345
04:44:40,400 --> 04:44:45,080
the possibilities and externalities that could one day show up

3346
04:44:45,080 --> 04:44:49,840
at my door for believing what I believe. There are

3347
04:44:49,880 --> 04:44:55,200
a few, and I love them very much, but for

3348
04:44:55,240 --> 04:45:00,520
the most part, same thing with LA It's just a

3349
04:45:00,520 --> 04:45:06,880
fashion accessory. They like to say, the transgressive thing. They

3350
04:45:06,919 --> 04:45:12,319
like to be seen as transgressive. But that's it. There'll

3351
04:45:12,360 --> 04:45:17,520
never be anything more than that. That's why you gotta both,

3352
04:45:18,279 --> 04:45:21,599
you know, be a right wing edge lord. But at

3353
04:45:21,599 --> 04:45:24,520
the same time, don't let anybody say anything mean to

3354
04:45:25,080 --> 04:45:33,000
our trans friends or anyways. I just find it so

3355
04:45:33,200 --> 04:45:40,479
hilarious that they somehow believe that they take that this

3356
04:45:40,599 --> 04:45:48,279
is their thing and we're along for the ride. But

3357
04:45:48,319 --> 04:45:54,799
nothing could be further from the truth. I find it offensive,

3358
04:45:55,680 --> 04:46:02,599
like to the highest degree. Like it. It's the insolence

3359
04:46:02,599 --> 04:46:09,959
that gets me. But the men that like those, they're

3360
04:46:09,959 --> 04:46:12,279
no different than the people that had added to the

3361
04:46:12,599 --> 04:46:21,720
international terminal at Bengurion Airport October eighth, Right, because if

3362
04:46:21,880 --> 04:46:26,159
you ever make a move to actualize any of your beliefs,

3363
04:46:27,119 --> 04:46:31,400
it'll be people like that that stop you. It'll be

3364
04:46:31,439 --> 04:46:34,919
people like that that stab you in the back, because

3365
04:46:36,240 --> 04:46:41,560
if you ever seek to make it a real world reality,

3366
04:46:41,639 --> 04:46:46,959
it's no longer fun, it's no longer transgressive, it's no

3367
04:46:47,040 --> 04:46:54,599
longer pretend you're ruining it is what you're doing right

3368
04:46:54,680 --> 04:47:00,360
by making any steps towards actualizing any of the things

3369
04:47:00,400 --> 04:47:04,439
that we believe that they say they believe. But it

3370
04:47:04,560 --> 04:47:17,240
seems that when we make moves towards bringing or convictions

3371
04:47:17,279 --> 04:47:26,240
into or concrete reality, they screech and holler like I

3372
04:47:26,279 --> 04:47:33,799
am tearing up that Fendi handbag or I am pouring

3373
04:47:33,919 --> 04:47:40,639
bleach over that Chanelle sweater or whatever, because I'm ruining

3374
04:47:41,479 --> 04:47:47,720
their fancy fashion accessory. They wear our heritage and our

3375
04:47:47,759 --> 04:47:53,680
identity like it is a fancy dress. And I say

3376
04:47:53,759 --> 04:48:00,720
dress because turns out most of you fucking faggots like

3377
04:48:01,080 --> 04:48:09,279
to wear them, or like boys that wear them. Nothing

3378
04:48:10,759 --> 04:48:17,759
right wing about you. You don't believe anything. It certainly

3379
04:48:17,799 --> 04:48:25,240
wouldn't die for anything, not like those men in the

3380
04:48:25,240 --> 04:48:29,880
Spanish Civil War died, Not like those men in the

3381
04:48:29,880 --> 04:48:35,479
Battle of Berlin did. Both of them knew their situation

3382
04:48:36,400 --> 04:48:41,479
was hopeless. In the Battle of Berlin, not only their situation,

3383
04:48:41,720 --> 04:48:46,119
but their cause and their nation was lost, and they

3384
04:48:46,119 --> 04:48:57,880
still fought. And you guys couldvetch whenever we actualize any

3385
04:48:57,959 --> 04:49:02,080
right wing beliefs outside of the precious few. But I

3386
04:49:02,119 --> 04:49:09,919
think we have a problem of people wearing our beliefs

3387
04:49:09,919 --> 04:49:13,040
as fashion accessories. And I think that's something that we're

3388
04:49:13,080 --> 04:49:14,919
teething we're dealing with right now. I think it's a

3389
04:49:14,959 --> 04:49:16,880
teething pain that we're going to have to go through.

3390
04:49:22,040 --> 04:49:24,520
Speaker 1: You know, you really can see, like you mentioned the

3391
04:49:24,560 --> 04:49:26,919
Spanish Civil War and you also mentioned.

3392
04:49:26,680 --> 04:49:31,360
Speaker 2: It almost brought me to tears when you're reading it, Pete.

3393
04:49:31,599 --> 04:49:35,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, well brought me to tears every time I read that.

3394
04:49:35,599 --> 04:49:42,680
The the when you look at how the Nationalists handled

3395
04:49:42,720 --> 04:49:45,759
the Spanish Civil War, so they had it in they

3396
04:49:45,919 --> 04:49:48,880
I mean it wasn't it wasn't even like they had

3397
04:49:49,080 --> 04:49:53,680
foreign invaders. I mean they technically, but it was a

3398
04:49:53,759 --> 04:49:58,639
government they had they had elected, a government was elected

3399
04:49:59,200 --> 04:50:02,639
that decided that that they were going to this came

3400
04:50:02,639 --> 04:50:06,200
out later kill half the country, that they were going

3401
04:50:06,240 --> 04:50:08,919
to kill half the people in the country, because.

3402
04:50:08,720 --> 04:50:11,680
Speaker 2: I never realized that. I'd never known that.

3403
04:50:11,759 --> 04:50:14,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, their goal was to kill fifty percent of the

3404
04:50:14,479 --> 04:50:19,200
Catholics in the country. So what they When you look

3405
04:50:19,240 --> 04:50:21,919
at that and you know, and you know that the

3406
04:50:21,959 --> 04:50:25,599
only people that fled north to France were the infirmed

3407
04:50:25,680 --> 04:50:28,000
and the old getting out of the way of war,

3408
04:50:28,720 --> 04:50:32,200
and that they stayed there and fought, it really goes

3409
04:50:32,240 --> 04:50:35,919
to show that when you look at Israel and you

3410
04:50:36,040 --> 04:50:38,959
just have people hopping over this fence and killing a

3411
04:50:38,959 --> 04:50:40,919
bunch of people and taking it and taking some hostages

3412
04:50:40,919 --> 04:50:46,759
and then running back, and millions of people decide they're

3413
04:50:46,799 --> 04:50:51,400
going to go home. Israel's not a country. Israel's not

3414
04:50:51,439 --> 04:50:56,080
a people. It's not an Yeah, it's a place where

3415
04:50:56,119 --> 04:51:00,240
people go to have extended vacations to be around their own,

3416
04:51:00,319 --> 04:51:03,520
which you're not allowed to do pretty much anywhere in

3417
04:51:03,520 --> 04:51:07,599
the West because of a certain group telling you you're

3418
04:51:07,720 --> 04:51:11,240
a fascist if you do that. Yeah, they don't have

3419
04:51:11,400 --> 04:51:14,520
When you compare that to when you compare the Spanish

3420
04:51:15,000 --> 04:51:19,599
and you compare them, there's no there's no question who

3421
04:51:19,639 --> 04:51:22,319
the better people are, who the better breeding is, who

3422
04:51:22,360 --> 04:51:24,639
the better bloodline is. There's some people who are going

3423
04:51:24,680 --> 04:51:26,240
to stay and they're going to fight for their own

3424
04:51:26,720 --> 04:51:32,200
not run because they have no because they have no home.

3425
04:51:32,639 --> 04:51:35,799
No matter what they say about Israel, as soon as

3426
04:51:35,840 --> 04:51:38,520
something goes as soon as something goes wrong, they no

3427
04:51:38,599 --> 04:51:41,880
longer have a home. They go to their other home

3428
04:51:42,560 --> 04:51:46,080
or they're you know, wherever that may be. Yeah, these

3429
04:51:46,119 --> 04:51:48,520
aren't a These aren't a people to be.

3430
04:51:50,159 --> 04:51:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, idolized.

3431
04:51:52,080 --> 04:51:54,799
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people who idolize them. Oh,

3432
04:51:54,840 --> 04:51:58,080
I wish we go our own ethnic state, and we

3433
04:51:58,159 --> 04:52:01,080
wish we could have our own ethnic state. And it's

3434
04:52:01,119 --> 04:52:04,919
like yeah, yeah, when when a couple yeah, when a

3435
04:52:04,919 --> 04:52:07,759
couple of people get killed, you know when when a

3436
04:52:07,759 --> 04:52:11,799
couple of people get killed, what happens. Oh, we're gonna

3437
04:52:11,880 --> 04:52:14,119
we're running home. We're gonna run to Europe, We're gonna

3438
04:52:14,159 --> 04:52:15,240
run to the United States.

3439
04:52:15,479 --> 04:52:20,040
Speaker 2: Okay, the army should have been overflowing. Then the very

3440
04:52:20,080 --> 04:52:24,919
next day, the army should have been overflowing, right, just

3441
04:52:25,040 --> 04:52:29,400
as every single recruiting station in the country was the

3442
04:52:29,479 --> 04:52:30,880
day after nine to eleven.

3443
04:52:31,959 --> 04:52:34,240
Speaker 1: The only people in that the only people in that

3444
04:52:34,400 --> 04:52:37,279
country who actually give a ship and are willing to

3445
04:52:37,319 --> 04:52:40,639
die and willing to kill are the settlers. That's it.

3446
04:52:40,680 --> 04:52:43,599
They're the ones who are like, we took this. Fuck you,

3447
04:52:44,080 --> 04:52:45,840
we took it. No matter what you think of that,

3448
04:52:46,040 --> 04:52:50,279
we took this. Fuck you. Unleash us, let us go,

3449
04:52:50,720 --> 04:52:53,680
let us go kill, let us go kill Palestinians, let

3450
04:52:53,759 --> 04:52:54,759
us go kill the enemy.

3451
04:52:55,319 --> 04:53:00,720
Speaker 2: Yes there, I actually respect them. Yeah, hi, understand why

3452
04:53:00,759 --> 04:53:02,639
they don't want to fight in the IDEF. I don't

3453
04:53:02,680 --> 04:53:05,520
fucking blame them, right, You got these like if you're

3454
04:53:05,560 --> 04:53:08,759
on the if you're on the kibbutz like you're fucking

3455
04:53:09,880 --> 04:53:16,200
you're the closest that one of a cosmopolitan people that

3456
04:53:16,279 --> 04:53:20,200
have had no roots could be to one of those

3457
04:53:20,279 --> 04:53:24,520
Iowa farm boys, right, or one of those Appalachian coal

3458
04:53:24,520 --> 04:53:27,720
miners kids. Right. You're doing work.

3459
04:53:27,759 --> 04:53:29,840
Speaker 1: They actually what they're doing.

3460
04:53:30,360 --> 04:53:33,759
Speaker 2: Yes, And you're working the land. That's what you're doing.

3461
04:53:34,639 --> 04:53:40,119
And a certain type of consciousness comes over you. I

3462
04:53:40,200 --> 04:53:45,279
know this because you know, taken to growing food and

3463
04:53:45,479 --> 04:53:49,959
a certain amount of peace comes over you tending the

3464
04:53:50,040 --> 04:53:56,840
soil like it really does. It clarifies your mind. I

3465
04:53:56,880 --> 04:53:57,919
wish all of our.

3466
04:53:57,959 --> 04:54:02,000
Speaker 1: Lads were in the backyard today getting things prepared for

3467
04:54:02,080 --> 04:54:02,560
the winner.

3468
04:54:03,040 --> 04:54:06,639
Speaker 2: Yep. In tune. It makes you in tune with the seasons.

3469
04:54:07,080 --> 04:54:09,400
It makes you in tune with your surroundings, and you

3470
04:54:09,520 --> 04:54:12,919
bond with the land that it is a dialogue and

3471
04:54:13,159 --> 04:54:17,200
no one can tell me different. So those people on

3472
04:54:17,240 --> 04:54:22,040
those cobuses, their connection to the land is now a

3473
04:54:22,040 --> 04:54:26,439
spiritual one. And it seems that that that's funny because

3474
04:54:26,560 --> 04:54:30,959
they're willing to die for it, and they also won't

3475
04:54:31,000 --> 04:54:33,439
fight with the people that have to be forced to

3476
04:54:33,479 --> 04:54:39,240
fight the conscripts. The draftees like I actually respect that

3477
04:54:39,279 --> 04:54:45,000
they won't join the idea that is the negative.

3478
04:54:46,400 --> 04:54:50,959
Speaker 1: Why would true believers want to fight fight besides trans

3479
04:54:51,000 --> 04:54:58,799
people and other things, yeah yeah, homosexuals and I mean sorry,

3480
04:54:58,840 --> 04:54:59,279
but women.

3481
04:55:00,119 --> 04:55:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah when when they when they occupied that church in

3482
04:55:02,880 --> 04:55:07,279
Lebanon the other day and uh, the one own that

3483
04:55:07,319 --> 04:55:10,200
they could think of on the Christians own and desecrate

3484
04:55:10,360 --> 04:55:14,520
the church was to have a mock gay wedding except

3485
04:55:14,520 --> 04:55:17,880
for surprise, the bride or sorry the groom and the

3486
04:55:17,880 --> 04:55:22,799
groom you know, made out at the end of the ceremony.

3487
04:55:23,119 --> 04:55:30,080
Super tough guys, Like again, I don't think that's the

3488
04:55:30,119 --> 04:55:31,279
own you think it is?

3489
04:55:32,840 --> 04:55:35,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's let's get let's come back.

3490
04:55:35,319 --> 04:55:39,200
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah see. Uh Pete knows how to

3491
04:55:39,599 --> 04:55:42,439
get the get the most out of me because I

3492
04:55:42,759 --> 04:55:46,040
do have to be kept on topic, especially like that.

3493
04:55:46,479 --> 04:55:55,880
But uh so the the guys that briefly we'll talk

3494
04:55:55,919 --> 04:56:01,000
about who else before we get into Charles Limberg's fight

3495
04:56:01,080 --> 04:56:07,279
with FDR, which basically it became because being as popular

3496
04:56:07,319 --> 04:56:13,919
as he was, any radio station would fall all over

3497
04:56:13,959 --> 04:56:18,759
itself to get Charles Lindberg on the air. Advertisers, would

3498
04:56:19,279 --> 04:56:25,759
you know, pay insane multiples on what they were normally

3499
04:56:25,799 --> 04:56:31,560
paying to be either before or after Charles' a Charles

3500
04:56:31,639 --> 04:56:35,360
Lindberg speech, right, And it got to a point where

3501
04:56:35,400 --> 04:56:41,240
the president's fireside chats, President Roosevelt's fireside chats as painful

3502
04:56:41,799 --> 04:56:46,200
as they are to listen to, I urge you to

3503
04:56:46,240 --> 04:56:54,840
start seeking out Charles Lindberg's radio appearances or I guess

3504
04:56:54,840 --> 04:56:58,479
you can call them like addresses, right, and then find

3505
04:56:59,119 --> 04:57:05,840
the FDR fireside chats, either immediately after or immediately before,

3506
04:57:06,479 --> 04:57:15,639
because these men were addressing the nation ostensibly, but they

3507
04:57:15,639 --> 04:57:21,439
were having a debate like tit for tat, right. I mean,

3508
04:57:22,319 --> 04:57:24,080
it was literally like they were on the debate stage

3509
04:57:24,119 --> 04:57:25,959
going at it if you listen to them in order,

3510
04:57:27,439 --> 04:57:30,720
and it was a debate that FDR was losing and

3511
04:57:30,840 --> 04:57:35,520
Charles was winning. And after the des Moines Iowa speech

3512
04:57:36,279 --> 04:57:40,799
nineteen forty one when he said FDR, the British race

3513
04:57:41,279 --> 04:57:44,720
and the Jewish race were pushing the country into war,

3514
04:57:46,919 --> 04:57:53,119
that settled it. Seventy percent of the country at the time.

3515
04:57:53,319 --> 04:57:58,880
It's not my these are here. Why did the poll?

3516
04:58:00,560 --> 04:58:09,040
This poll was was it page eighteen? This one? Yeah?

3517
04:58:09,159 --> 04:58:15,159
Gallop Gallop nineteen thirty eight and then Gallup nineteen thirty nine,

3518
04:58:19,080 --> 04:58:21,759
nineteen forty. Yeah, most of these are going to be

3519
04:58:21,759 --> 04:58:26,119
Gallop poles. And there's the Opor surveys, which I think

3520
04:58:26,119 --> 04:58:31,759
the organizations now defunct. But sixty eight percent of the

3521
04:58:31,799 --> 04:58:39,520
population of America said that the Jewish race had too

3522
04:58:39,599 --> 04:58:50,040
much control over the FDR administration. So it wasn't just him.

3523
04:58:50,400 --> 04:58:52,400
In fact, Pete, I sent you a book the other day.

3524
04:58:54,720 --> 04:58:57,720
Speaker 1: What was it called FDR and the Jews?

3525
04:59:00,119 --> 04:59:06,119
Speaker 2: Why I did remember? It was literally no, I thought

3526
04:59:06,159 --> 04:59:10,279
it was yeah, okay, And I remember like the I

3527
04:59:10,279 --> 04:59:14,880
remember reading a couple paragraphs I read, like the forward

3528
04:59:14,919 --> 04:59:18,720
in the in the introductory chapters of the book, And

3529
04:59:19,919 --> 04:59:25,040
basically the purpose of the book was because it's one

3530
04:59:25,080 --> 04:59:28,799
of those great things where they do like the actually

3531
04:59:28,840 --> 04:59:31,840
it is happening or sorry it's it's actually happening, but

3532
04:59:32,159 --> 04:59:35,040
also it's actually a good thing, not a bad thing.

3533
04:59:35,360 --> 04:59:41,720
That you know, the the left so famously does so

3534
04:59:41,959 --> 04:59:46,400
FDR in modern times, you know, in the in the

3535
04:59:46,599 --> 04:59:51,840
late nineties two thousands, right around like the ken Burns,

3536
04:59:51,880 --> 04:59:58,599
the Suspicious History documentaries, I started hitting the air. FDR's

3537
04:59:58,639 --> 05:00:01,200
memory was starting to get a lot to flack because

3538
05:00:01,279 --> 05:00:09,000
he turned down or he rejected that boat full of

3539
05:00:10,599 --> 05:00:26,159
Jewish immigrats that were fleeing manual labor in Germany, and hey, man,

3540
05:00:27,360 --> 05:00:34,560
like you know, Africans, I believe or what like lactose intolerant,

3541
05:00:34,680 --> 05:00:44,439
some people are, some races are labor intolerant. But he rejected.

3542
05:00:44,919 --> 05:00:51,639
He basically turned away the ship, right, and that kind

3543
05:00:51,680 --> 05:00:58,439
of came back into public consciousness and basically like there

3544
05:00:58,520 --> 05:01:01,919
was this, you know, narrative going around that it's probably

3545
05:01:01,919 --> 05:01:05,880
from some probably from some idiot conservatives. Actually, I guarantee

3546
05:01:05,880 --> 05:01:11,959
you it was probably idiot conservatives saying like, you know, oh,

3547
05:01:12,200 --> 05:01:16,439
FDR don't you know love the Semites like I do.

3548
05:01:17,319 --> 05:01:22,240
In fact, FDR and the Progressives were anti Semites and

3549
05:01:22,240 --> 05:01:23,319
that's why they turned away.

3550
05:01:23,400 --> 05:01:30,040
Speaker 1: These always always attacking the left as the oh they're

3551
05:01:30,080 --> 05:01:33,880
the real racist or they're the real anti Semites, and yeah,

3552
05:01:34,000 --> 05:01:35,000
it's like, okay.

3553
05:01:35,639 --> 05:01:38,000
Speaker 2: It's like that Antioch declaration I was listening to. I

3554
05:01:38,000 --> 05:01:41,080
don't know what the ANTIOC declaration is. I saw cryptos

3555
05:01:41,159 --> 05:01:44,159
post about it. Everyone should follow Cryptos one of the

3556
05:01:44,200 --> 05:01:49,680
best accounts. I saw his post about it, but I

3557
05:01:49,759 --> 05:01:52,560
was listening and I still didn't really understand what it

3558
05:01:52,639 --> 05:01:55,159
was or basically on like whose authority it was issued?

3559
05:01:55,799 --> 05:01:59,799
And then I was listening to probably the angriest I've

3560
05:01:59,799 --> 05:02:05,720
ever or McIntyre just I guess just dropped the stream

3561
05:02:05,759 --> 05:02:09,840
about about this and about how to handle in uh,

3562
05:02:10,200 --> 05:02:14,400
you know, disagreements and in fighting inside your cultural political movement.

3563
05:02:15,479 --> 05:02:19,799
It was a really good talk, very angry, which is

3564
05:02:19,880 --> 05:02:23,759
interesting and refreshing to hear. I think Aaron should get

3565
05:02:23,799 --> 05:02:26,560
more angry. Aaron, if you're listening, I need to lean

3566
05:02:26,599 --> 05:02:34,200
into that. It's it's good, not like being angry, it's good.

3567
05:02:34,240 --> 05:02:38,360
Being angry is not good. No emotion is good in

3568
05:02:38,400 --> 05:02:44,840
and of itself. But hearing him deliver, you know, points

3569
05:02:44,880 --> 05:02:52,479
like that with with some anger and hostility in his voice,

3570
05:02:51,520 --> 05:02:58,240
it makes Aaron hit much different and in a very

3571
05:02:58,279 --> 05:03:04,919
positive way. So Aaron angrier and preferably right before your streams.

3572
05:03:06,279 --> 05:03:11,000
But yeah, it was It's like what conservatives do, man,

3573
05:03:11,599 --> 05:03:15,840
They go run to the left to try and cancel

3574
05:03:16,479 --> 05:03:19,400
you know guys they don't like on the right, and

3575
05:03:19,639 --> 05:03:23,959
they anyways, but yeah, so this book came out to

3576
05:03:24,040 --> 05:03:26,240
try and like it was basically like no, no, no.

3577
05:03:26,639 --> 05:03:35,599
In fact, the Jewish people in the FDR administration was

3578
05:03:36,919 --> 05:03:42,080
actually their relationship was so close in fact, that the

3579
05:03:42,159 --> 05:03:46,000
public started, you know, asking a lot of questions and

3580
05:03:46,040 --> 05:03:51,720
getting very concerned, and with the his third election right

3581
05:03:51,759 --> 05:03:58,520
around the corner, it basically became politically untenable for him

3582
05:03:58,560 --> 05:04:01,599
to accept them because of all the other good things

3583
05:04:01,639 --> 05:04:05,159
that he had done for the Jewish people in his

3584
05:04:05,240 --> 05:04:15,479
administration thus far, so surprise, FDR not an anti Semite

3585
05:04:15,560 --> 05:04:21,159
at all, but was so philo Semitic in fact that

3586
05:04:21,279 --> 05:04:31,119
it became politically toxic, and if he had done any

3587
05:04:31,159 --> 05:04:34,720
more of it, the toxicity would have been fatal to

3588
05:04:34,959 --> 05:04:42,400
his third presidential aspirations. So that's why. And the book

3589
05:04:42,439 --> 05:04:46,040
that they that I encourage everyone to read it. I've

3590
05:04:46,080 --> 05:04:49,159
only just started. But if it if it keeps on

3591
05:04:49,279 --> 05:04:53,159
hitting like the injured, like the intro chapters, I think

3592
05:04:53,159 --> 05:04:57,680
it's going to be a really interesting book. But yeah,

3593
05:04:57,720 --> 05:05:01,840
seventy percent of the country sought it the way that

3594
05:05:04,000 --> 05:05:09,360
Lindberg did. That these were the three interest groups right

3595
05:05:10,279 --> 05:05:14,919
when I think he says the FDR administration and FDR personally,

3596
05:05:14,959 --> 05:05:17,919
he was saying FDR personally, But the guys that were

3597
05:05:17,959 --> 05:05:22,840
backing him, backing the America First Committee, these were the

3598
05:05:22,880 --> 05:05:26,639
same guys as the American Liberty League. If you remember

3599
05:05:26,720 --> 05:05:28,880
my talk about the American Liberty League in the last

3600
05:05:28,880 --> 05:05:32,720
episode it with Pete, you'll get an idea who he's

3601
05:05:32,759 --> 05:05:38,400
talking about when he says, like the FDR regime as

3602
05:05:38,799 --> 05:05:44,799
its own separate interest groups because at least from the

3603
05:05:44,880 --> 05:05:55,200
men that were in power in industrial, financial, social capital,

3604
05:05:56,520 --> 05:05:59,040
like that type of power, even though they weren't you

3605
05:05:59,240 --> 05:06:03,840
in the government, because the Progressives, I'm sorry, the New Dealers,

3606
05:06:04,520 --> 05:06:13,119
these men saw it as a political regime that was

3607
05:06:13,159 --> 05:06:22,720
being puppeteered by Bolshevik Russia, and there was a lot

3608
05:06:22,759 --> 05:06:26,639
of good evidence for it. A lot of that evidence

3609
05:06:26,680 --> 05:06:30,000
would be confirmed by what it's called the Venona cables.

3610
05:06:31,000 --> 05:06:34,279
Turns out like they had some the Russians had some

3611
05:06:34,319 --> 05:06:39,599
pretty good encryption tech at the time and their ciphers.

3612
05:06:40,360 --> 05:06:45,479
It took like computing power of like the early two

3613
05:06:45,520 --> 05:06:48,639
thousands to come around before we had the ability to

3614
05:06:48,680 --> 05:06:53,159
bust it open. So I think the nsay cracked Venona,

3615
05:06:54,919 --> 05:06:57,279
or at least released announced that they cracked it and

3616
05:06:57,319 --> 05:07:04,799
released it, I believe, in the early two thousands. But surprise,

3617
05:07:06,639 --> 05:07:11,080
McCarthy was right. And not only was he right, all

3618
05:07:11,119 --> 05:07:13,639
of these guys at the time of FDR were right

3619
05:07:15,840 --> 05:07:20,959
and were more right than they even thought they were right.

3620
05:07:21,159 --> 05:07:28,680
Like our first lady was literally a CPUSA member, what

3621
05:07:28,720 --> 05:07:36,840
the fuck like Barack Obama isn't a Marxist, Joe Biden,

3622
05:07:36,919 --> 05:07:43,000
Kamala Harris isn't a Marxist. But the FDR regime was,

3623
05:07:45,319 --> 05:07:48,880
the New Deal regime was at least most of the

3624
05:07:48,919 --> 05:07:54,080
people in prominent positions within the administration were, and they

3625
05:07:54,119 --> 05:07:57,560
wanted the US in World War two real bad, because

3626
05:07:57,560 --> 05:08:04,479
who is the other group of people that were withering

3627
05:08:05,479 --> 05:08:12,560
against the onslaught brought on by the Wehrmacht or the Luftwaffa.

3628
05:08:14,680 --> 05:08:19,360
Wasn't just the British, It wasn't just the Jews. It

3629
05:08:19,400 --> 05:08:27,279
was the Soviets, and the Soviets unlike the British their

3630
05:08:27,400 --> 05:08:30,759
lend lease. I heard you bring up the other day, Pete,

3631
05:08:31,520 --> 05:08:32,919
And I don't think that a lot of people know

3632
05:08:33,000 --> 05:08:35,360
it is that at the time of the US entry

3633
05:08:35,400 --> 05:08:41,720
into World War Two, most of our arms manufacturing weren't manufacturing,

3634
05:08:42,119 --> 05:08:44,560
weren't set up for from the very beginning. We're not

3635
05:08:44,599 --> 05:08:48,000
set up for and we're not at the time making

3636
05:08:48,400 --> 05:08:50,599
American calibers.

3637
05:08:52,400 --> 05:08:56,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you what I think the main character

3638
05:08:56,560 --> 05:08:59,919
the caliber they were manufacturing was seven sixty two by

3639
05:09:00,040 --> 05:09:05,400
fifty four four? Yeah, what's that? What's that for? That's

3640
05:09:05,439 --> 05:09:11,479
most in the gaunt Yeah, other Russian whatever? That dumb rifles?

3641
05:09:11,720 --> 05:09:15,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is it? The the DPM Is that the

3642
05:09:15,000 --> 05:09:17,080
one with the plate on top of it? It looks

3643
05:09:17,119 --> 05:09:19,360
like a dinner plate or record on top of it.

3644
05:09:20,439 --> 05:09:21,240
Speaker 1: I can't remember.

3645
05:09:22,240 --> 05:09:29,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the precursor to the RPD. Yeah. Wait

3646
05:09:29,279 --> 05:09:32,880
is the RPD the fat ak forty seven? Now what's

3647
05:09:32,919 --> 05:09:35,680
the what's the seven sixty two y thirty nine belt fed?

3648
05:09:36,520 --> 05:09:43,520
That's my favorite. I'm not a PKM respector I think

3649
05:09:43,520 --> 05:09:44,720
it's the RPD.

3650
05:09:45,400 --> 05:09:51,080
Speaker 1: I think it's the DPM. Yeah, the yeah, the DPM,

3651
05:09:51,479 --> 05:09:55,319
mischie was the seven sixty two let me.

3652
05:09:55,279 --> 05:09:58,680
Speaker 2: See thirty nine? Or it was was the DPM.

3653
05:09:58,799 --> 05:10:03,560
Speaker 1: The No. Fifty four are okay?

3654
05:10:03,919 --> 05:10:08,639
Speaker 2: And that's the one with the weird disc magazine yep.

3655
05:10:08,639 --> 05:10:11,000
Speaker 1: And if you got to Battlefield Vegas you can rent

3656
05:10:11,040 --> 05:10:11,680
one and shoot it.

3657
05:10:13,159 --> 05:10:21,119
Speaker 2: Oh Man and FDR you know fed the magazines. That's great. Hooray.

3658
05:10:23,439 --> 05:10:27,400
It makes me fucking sick. The backers of the America

3659
05:10:27,479 --> 05:10:30,560
First Committee were equally as interesting, so they were all

3660
05:10:30,639 --> 05:10:33,479
the men that I had previously talked about with the

3661
05:10:33,560 --> 05:10:37,880
American Liberty League. Right, but give an idea of this organization.

3662
05:10:38,439 --> 05:10:43,119
It was the largest organization political or otherwise in the country.

3663
05:10:44,680 --> 05:10:52,759
It had eight hundred thousand paid members paid. Think about that,

3664
05:10:53,240 --> 05:10:56,400
Like even today, do you think you know Act Blue

3665
05:10:56,759 --> 05:11:02,279
or DSA or do you think any Democrat, let alone

3666
05:11:02,319 --> 05:11:06,759
Republican Republican be laughable, but do you think any political

3667
05:11:06,840 --> 05:11:10,159
action group in the US has eight hundred thousand paid

3668
05:11:10,159 --> 05:11:13,000
members paid? Isn't like they received a check?

3669
05:11:14,400 --> 05:11:17,000
Speaker 1: Well, you don't need that anymore because you have so

3670
05:11:17,119 --> 05:11:22,560
many big gigant you know, billionaires willing to fund you that. Yeah,

3671
05:11:22,639 --> 05:11:23,319
you don't need that.

3672
05:11:23,639 --> 05:11:25,639
Speaker 2: Well you gotta hire. I mean, these are people collecting

3673
05:11:25,720 --> 05:11:34,520
checks not submitting them. Oh wow, yeah, insane. Well, they

3674
05:11:34,959 --> 05:11:37,599
also like like it was also like a union. Their

3675
05:11:37,639 --> 05:11:43,240
members also did pay, you know, did contribute, but they

3676
05:11:43,240 --> 05:11:47,720
don't actually know how many members. Even the president of

3677
05:11:47,799 --> 05:11:50,400
the American First Committee even said, like, I have no

3678
05:11:50,479 --> 05:11:54,279
idea how many actual members we have. There was and

3679
05:11:54,560 --> 05:11:57,200
what was the population? What was the population in nineteen

3680
05:11:57,240 --> 05:12:01,080
forty You have a much less loud keyboard as I do.

3681
05:12:02,119 --> 05:12:03,479
I won'st subject the listeners to.

3682
05:12:03,439 --> 05:12:12,479
Speaker 1: That population, USA was a population one hundred and thirty

3683
05:12:12,479 --> 05:12:12,959
two million.

3684
05:12:13,720 --> 05:12:18,279
Speaker 2: Okay, well, there was over a quarter of a million

3685
05:12:19,000 --> 05:12:29,439
America First Committee members in just Chicago. That's huge. Again,

3686
05:12:29,560 --> 05:12:32,319
eighty percent of the population not only agreed with the

3687
05:12:32,360 --> 05:12:41,360
tenets of the America First Committee, but I would probably

3688
05:12:41,360 --> 05:12:44,200
say a majority of that eighty percent back to the

3689
05:12:44,319 --> 05:12:48,599
organization themselves. So what he went to checks.

3690
05:12:48,599 --> 05:12:52,560
Speaker 1: You want to know what's really interesting about that? So

3691
05:12:52,639 --> 05:12:56,880
those numbers that he's quoting, Yeah, I'm almost one hundred

3692
05:12:56,919 --> 05:13:01,560
percent positive he got those from a book called Hitler

3693
05:13:01,599 --> 05:13:05,400
and Los Angeles, How Jews Foiled Nazi Plots against Hollywood

3694
05:13:06,279 --> 05:13:11,880
and in there, which was written by Stephen J. Ross.

3695
05:13:11,880 --> 05:13:19,560
In there, they they actually post these these surveys from

3696
05:13:19,599 --> 05:13:23,520
the thirties asking people, you know, do you trust Jews?

3697
05:13:23,560 --> 05:13:27,479
Do you usually they? Yeah, they they I think it

3698
05:13:27,520 --> 05:13:30,000
was the American Jewish Committee at the time that was

3699
05:13:30,040 --> 05:13:32,400
doing those, if I remember the book correctly. But yeah,

3700
05:13:32,479 --> 05:13:37,119
those are those had been long for those numbers have

3701
05:13:37,159 --> 05:13:41,759
been long forgotten until they decided to write this book

3702
05:13:41,799 --> 05:13:44,840
to brag about how they foiled all these Nazi plots

3703
05:13:44,840 --> 05:13:46,240
against what do.

3704
05:13:46,200 --> 05:13:49,000
Speaker 2: You remember what it said, the percentage of the US

3705
05:13:49,119 --> 05:13:55,240
population that trusted Jews.

3706
05:13:53,200 --> 05:13:55,840
Speaker 1: It was between it was between seventy and eighty who the.

3707
05:13:55,959 --> 05:13:58,759
Speaker 2: Trusted, trusted or distrusted, don't think either.

3708
05:13:58,639 --> 05:14:02,200
Speaker 1: Or well, well trusted was between seventy and eighty percent.

3709
05:14:06,439 --> 05:14:07,560
Speaker 2: That makes about and.

3710
05:14:07,479 --> 05:14:10,080
Speaker 1: You can even and I'm on Amazon right now and

3711
05:14:10,119 --> 05:14:13,919
like even one of the one of the reviewers says,

3712
05:14:17,720 --> 05:14:21,520
what is it. I found this book well written and fascinating.

3713
05:14:21,799 --> 05:14:24,799
I was somewhat amazed at the strong sense of anti

3714
05:14:24,840 --> 05:14:28,400
semitism and isolationism that existed in some of the more

3715
05:14:28,439 --> 05:14:32,200
progressive areas of America at the time. I'm concerned that

3716
05:14:32,279 --> 05:14:34,799
some of this thinking is raising its ugly head once

3717
05:14:34,840 --> 05:14:38,599
again in both Europe and America. This is a review

3718
05:14:38,639 --> 05:14:48,000
from March seventh, twenty eighteen. So yeah, they they actually

3719
05:14:48,159 --> 05:14:52,119
went through those numbers in this book and just you know,

3720
05:14:52,240 --> 05:14:55,040
basically told on themselves that you know, it's like it's

3721
05:14:55,040 --> 05:14:58,159
one of those things where you're they do it all

3722
05:14:58,200 --> 05:15:02,159
this information that they do it. It's it's so ridiculous

3723
05:15:02,200 --> 05:15:04,880
that they do it all the time. They think that

3724
05:15:04,919 --> 05:15:08,360
if they put that out there, that thinking people aren't

3725
05:15:08,360 --> 05:15:15,159
going to ask questions like well, why well why I

3726
05:15:15,200 --> 05:15:16,959
mean people in this because you.

3727
05:15:16,919 --> 05:15:18,880
Speaker 2: Have to think that they think that they're the only

3728
05:15:18,919 --> 05:15:25,119
ones that are thinking people, and so I don't believe

3729
05:15:25,159 --> 05:15:27,759
in I don't believe in all of the all of

3730
05:15:27,799 --> 05:15:33,200
the sillier tropes about you know, their their cartoon representation

3731
05:15:33,319 --> 05:15:38,880
of uh in the figure of Dracula. I mean, yes,

3732
05:15:39,040 --> 05:15:44,720
you know, I understand Saint Simon for Saint Simon. Saint

3733
05:15:44,759 --> 05:15:47,200
Simon's going to have it, will have his revenge, I'm

3734
05:15:47,200 --> 05:15:53,520
sure of it, at least in Europe. But the fact

3735
05:15:53,560 --> 05:15:58,240
that the vampire can't see his reflection in the mirror

3736
05:15:58,400 --> 05:16:05,240
I find just so on the nose. I hate to

3737
05:16:05,240 --> 05:16:11,360
even cheapen it with a pun like that. But they're

3738
05:16:11,400 --> 05:16:18,080
not only incapable of self reflection haha, but they're also

3739
05:16:18,279 --> 05:16:26,080
incapable of seeing themselves as a broader group. Right, So

3740
05:16:26,240 --> 05:16:32,080
like that in that public bragging, like you would think like, oh,

3741
05:16:32,159 --> 05:16:35,279
this may be a bad idea for us more broadly,

3742
05:16:36,439 --> 05:16:40,599
you know, like there's no there's no reflection at a

3743
05:16:40,639 --> 05:16:48,639
group level either anyways, because the telling on themselves is constant,

3744
05:16:49,119 --> 05:16:53,279
it is a constant theme. I find it just deranged.

3745
05:16:55,840 --> 05:16:59,720
But some of the fiscal backers that the check Cutter is.

3746
05:16:59,720 --> 05:17:07,200
The big one is Julius Morton, Governor of Nebraska and

3747
05:17:07,439 --> 05:17:15,040
US Secretary of ad under. I believe Hoober. He was

3748
05:17:15,119 --> 05:17:21,720
kind of a big deal in the budding conservationist movement.

3749
05:17:22,759 --> 05:17:29,919
Arbor Day exists because of this man. He made he

3750
05:17:30,000 --> 05:17:34,439
made his money. I can't remember. I can't remember I

3751
05:17:34,439 --> 05:17:36,599
made his money. Somebody should check it out. I'm sure

3752
05:17:36,599 --> 05:17:40,799
it's interesting. Another guy was Joseph Patterson. It was a

3753
05:17:40,840 --> 05:17:47,080
millionaire at the time, very much of the establishment, and

3754
05:17:47,159 --> 05:17:52,080
was founder of the Daily News, which was the only

3755
05:17:52,959 --> 05:17:57,799
newspaper talking sense. So everyone, when you go back in time,

3756
05:17:58,360 --> 05:18:01,479
and this is the other thing, like our academics represent

3757
05:18:02,799 --> 05:18:07,040
the opinions of the American people in past times by

3758
05:18:07,119 --> 05:18:11,400
seeing by basically looking in the newspapers, right, pete, Like

3759
05:18:11,479 --> 05:18:13,319
if they want to see, like what Americans were saying

3760
05:18:13,360 --> 05:18:16,880
about a certain thing. But who owns the fucking newspapers?

3761
05:18:17,799 --> 05:18:22,400
Like I have never heard.

3762
05:18:21,439 --> 05:18:22,680
Speaker 1: Especially the New York Times?

3763
05:18:23,200 --> 05:18:29,880
Speaker 2: Yeah right? Who said that? That's the paper record? Who says, uh,

3764
05:18:31,959 --> 05:18:34,360
how come I have never how come I and probably

3765
05:18:34,400 --> 05:18:37,959
you have never heard of the Daily News? The newspaper.

3766
05:18:39,279 --> 05:18:43,880
Speaker 1: We're not talking about the New York Daily News, are we? Yeah,

3767
05:18:44,000 --> 05:18:45,599
the New York You have the New York Daily News,

3768
05:18:45,599 --> 05:18:47,319
you have the Post in the New York Post, and

3769
05:18:47,360 --> 05:18:49,479
you have the New York Times.

3770
05:18:49,560 --> 05:18:57,200
Speaker 2: Let me see, m M. I'd have to go back

3771
05:18:57,240 --> 05:19:02,479
and check. Yeah, keep going, it's just the Daily News.

3772
05:19:02,520 --> 05:19:07,759
The founders Joseph Peterson or Patterson pa double T E. R. Son.

3773
05:19:08,919 --> 05:19:14,159
But I had never heard of the Daily News. But

3774
05:19:14,240 --> 05:19:21,200
it was the largest newspaper in the country right in

3775
05:19:21,240 --> 05:19:27,240
the forties and the thirties and the twenties. How have

3776
05:19:27,319 --> 05:19:30,159
I never heard of that? And they had had the

3777
05:19:30,240 --> 05:19:33,400
largest circulation in the country. How come nobody ever goes

3778
05:19:33,439 --> 05:19:36,560
and looks at the Daily News when they're looking through

3779
05:19:36,720 --> 05:19:42,319
microfilms about American opinion Because I just found that out

3780
05:19:42,400 --> 05:19:46,080
yesterday and as of now, I am going to start

3781
05:19:46,119 --> 05:19:49,119
looking at when I want to look at opinions of

3782
05:19:49,159 --> 05:19:53,400
the past, That's what I'm going to look for because

3783
05:19:54,360 --> 05:20:00,000
almost all of the historical you know, academic work, right

3784
05:20:00,159 --> 05:20:03,759
is uh, you know, when they when newspapers are involved

3785
05:20:04,159 --> 05:20:08,799
or like, you know, going through archival newspapers, it's always

3786
05:20:09,240 --> 05:20:14,240
the New York Times or the Washington Post. But one

3787
05:20:14,279 --> 05:20:18,040
of the most interesting backers of America first and a

3788
05:20:18,080 --> 05:20:29,360
frequent check cutter was one John F. Kennedy. So you

3789
05:20:29,439 --> 05:20:37,439
had Gerald Ford as one of the founding members and

3790
05:20:37,720 --> 05:20:40,799
which I find that very interesting that he was Nixon's

3791
05:20:40,880 --> 05:20:47,639
VP choice. M all right, that's pretty cool. But anyways,

3792
05:20:50,639 --> 05:20:54,840
John F. Kennedy would write handwritten notes because he would

3793
05:20:54,840 --> 05:20:59,880
always would put his checks in envelopes, and on the

3794
05:21:00,080 --> 05:21:04,319
envelopes each time would be like, this is the most

3795
05:21:04,599 --> 05:21:10,400
vital This is the most vital effort in the nation.

3796
05:21:11,159 --> 05:21:15,360
This is the most important effort or the most important

3797
05:21:15,439 --> 05:21:24,479
undertaking of the nation. He was a vehement supporter of America. First,

3798
05:21:25,200 --> 05:21:32,200
John F. Kennedy his father as well, right, but his

3799
05:21:32,279 --> 05:21:40,360
father's a business magnate and a foreign diplomat, right, very

3800
05:21:40,400 --> 05:21:45,560
similar to like the Myron T. Herrick types. You know.

3801
05:21:46,080 --> 05:21:50,000
I think Herrick was a banker, Yeah, a successful banker,

3802
05:21:51,240 --> 05:21:58,279
because he's who that He's the guy who was I

3803
05:21:58,319 --> 05:22:00,200
think in the in the very first episod. So when

3804
05:22:00,200 --> 05:22:02,720
we were talking about the very first episode of The

3805
05:22:02,759 --> 05:22:07,479
Robbert Barons, we were talking about how Pierpont Morgan was

3806
05:22:07,479 --> 05:22:11,000
trying to get out ahead of and stop before it

3807
05:22:11,040 --> 05:22:14,119
really really really got underway. Like I think it was

3808
05:22:14,159 --> 05:22:19,680
like Turkey and some other country, you know, like this,

3809
05:22:19,880 --> 05:22:24,240
the the Eastern European countries had just started right and

3810
05:22:24,279 --> 05:22:31,479
it would later melt over. But the JP Morgan company

3811
05:22:31,599 --> 05:22:37,560
tried issue, tried offering very large, zero interest and forgivable

3812
05:22:37,599 --> 05:22:44,759
loans to both of the both of the belligerent nations.

3813
05:22:44,799 --> 05:22:53,240
And Myron was the It was orchestrated out of Morgan

3814
05:22:53,520 --> 05:23:01,279
and Morgan. Grenfeld was the London office. Morgan and Hodges

3815
05:23:01,360 --> 05:23:05,200
was the was the Paris office. It was operated out

3816
05:23:05,240 --> 05:23:08,560
of the US Embassy in France or in Paris, France,

3817
05:23:08,560 --> 05:23:16,560
which was that Myron guys operation, and out of Morgan

3818
05:23:17,040 --> 05:23:21,479
and Hodges. So I find it really interesting that like,

3819
05:23:21,840 --> 05:23:23,880
the same guys that tried to stop World War One

3820
05:23:24,680 --> 05:23:26,520
are also the same guys that tried to stop World

3821
05:23:26,560 --> 05:23:31,880
War two. I don't find that a coincidence at all.

3822
05:23:32,439 --> 05:23:36,799
Oh and by the way, they're also the most financially

3823
05:23:36,840 --> 05:23:39,720
powerful people, and you could say, the most financially literate

3824
05:23:39,759 --> 05:23:47,520
people in the country. So sorry libertarians, sorry leftists. It

3825
05:23:47,639 --> 05:23:52,360
turns out industrialists and bankers don't want wars, so no

3826
05:23:52,479 --> 05:24:00,520
wars or bankers wars. Retards. God, I hate this gineering

3827
05:24:00,599 --> 05:24:08,680
of libertarians, their bumper, their ideology is a bumper sticker

3828
05:24:09,159 --> 05:24:20,080
deep because all of the US bankers seemed to work

3829
05:24:20,240 --> 05:24:25,360
very very hard, at substantial personal risk to themselves and

3830
05:24:25,400 --> 05:24:29,959
their fortunes to do the opposite of war. So, at

3831
05:24:30,040 --> 05:24:33,200
least as far as America is concerned, no wars are

3832
05:24:33,279 --> 05:24:41,720
bankers wars. And the guy that headed the guy that

3833
05:24:41,840 --> 05:24:45,200
was the first president of the America First Committee is

3834
05:24:45,240 --> 05:24:48,840
a really interesting character. So, like you're talking about like

3835
05:24:48,880 --> 05:24:53,400
the level of American brass top top, I guess you

3836
05:24:53,400 --> 05:25:03,840
could say like pop ethnic stock of the heritage American ethnahus,

3837
05:25:05,520 --> 05:25:09,080
I shouldn't laugh, right, Darryl Cooper already spends enough time

3838
05:25:09,119 --> 05:25:10,759
trying to tell me that I don't have a people

3839
05:25:12,200 --> 05:25:16,560
and I don't have a country. I shouldn't give his

3840
05:25:16,639 --> 05:25:21,520
silly position any any help. But he's great on everything else,

3841
05:25:22,040 --> 05:25:27,759
Daryl Cooper's he's a really good guy, just wrong about

3842
05:25:27,759 --> 05:25:31,119
one thing, which is all right, because a lot of

3843
05:25:31,159 --> 05:25:34,159
smart guys are usually wrong at at least one thing.

3844
05:25:36,880 --> 05:25:39,479
Speaker 1: Murray Rothbard used to say that you're allowed one deviation.

3845
05:25:40,360 --> 05:25:45,479
Speaker 2: Really I like that. Yeah, I think I should be

3846
05:25:45,520 --> 05:25:56,040
allowed at least one contradiction or deviation or incoherence. Brigadier

3847
05:25:56,119 --> 05:26:02,319
General Robert Wood was the president and chairman of the

3848
05:26:02,360 --> 05:26:12,479
America First Committee. Like you know before this is this

3849
05:26:12,479 --> 05:26:24,159
guy's actually really really interesting, right. He was a successful executive,

3850
05:26:28,080 --> 05:26:31,040
and he went to West Point and he served in

3851
05:26:31,080 --> 05:26:35,439
the Philippines from nineteen oh two to nineteen oh three.

3852
05:26:36,200 --> 05:26:39,040
And if you know anything about what happened in the Philippines,

3853
05:26:39,520 --> 05:26:44,439
you will understand that this man saw some shit, like

3854
05:26:44,799 --> 05:26:51,919
some real horrific stuff. But he retired in nineteen fifteen

3855
05:26:54,360 --> 05:27:03,000
and then became the vice president of DuPont Company and

3856
05:27:03,080 --> 05:27:10,080
headed operations inside the United States, all right, just to

3857
05:27:10,240 --> 05:27:14,799
clarify for his service in the Philippines, because he would

3858
05:27:14,959 --> 05:27:16,919
wonder like is this guy like a kiddet, Like how

3859
05:27:16,919 --> 05:27:23,119
old is he? Right? So at the time that he

3860
05:27:23,200 --> 05:27:27,520
was retired, and he was a major and would later

3861
05:27:29,080 --> 05:27:32,720
be in nineteen oh five, became assistant quartermaster or assistant

3862
05:27:32,799 --> 05:27:39,919
chief quartermaster and then chief quartermaster, but that was after

3863
05:27:40,880 --> 05:27:43,360
his service in the Philippines. So he started off the

3864
05:27:43,360 --> 05:27:47,040
Philippines just you know, regular officer, as one does when

3865
05:27:47,319 --> 05:27:53,119
you graduate West Point. But he would leave a major

3866
05:27:53,959 --> 05:28:00,599
and then go and be vice president of DuPont and

3867
05:28:00,639 --> 05:28:04,880
head of US operations. Pete do you remember who was

3868
05:28:04,919 --> 05:28:08,520
one of the largest backers of the American Liberty League

3869
05:28:08,560 --> 05:28:10,119
besides Jack Morgan.

3870
05:28:14,479 --> 05:28:16,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't remember. I didn't remember, thank you.

3871
05:28:17,680 --> 05:28:21,159
Speaker 2: So I find it very interesting that one of DuPont's

3872
05:28:21,200 --> 05:28:27,680
top guys has the America First Committee. I'm sure after

3873
05:28:27,680 --> 05:28:30,360
the American Liberty League and the direct attack that they

3874
05:28:30,400 --> 05:28:36,720
came under by the newly birthed regulatory State, I'm assuming

3875
05:28:36,759 --> 05:28:39,360
that these guys thought it best to put at least

3876
05:28:39,400 --> 05:28:48,279
one layer vicilation between them and their political action, and

3877
05:28:48,720 --> 05:28:52,119
that was mister Robert wood sorry, Brigadier General Robert wood

3878
05:28:54,040 --> 05:29:01,959
h And he stepped down from the DuPont Company on

3879
05:29:02,040 --> 05:29:06,040
the eve of nineteen seventeen and America's entry into the

3880
05:29:06,040 --> 05:29:11,319
First World War. He returned to the army as an

3881
05:29:11,319 --> 05:29:17,919
infantry lieutenant colonel, so he was on the front line.

3882
05:29:19,439 --> 05:29:23,159
He stepped down out of the vice President's office of

3883
05:29:23,159 --> 05:29:30,200
one of the most successful and wealthiest companies in the

3884
05:29:30,240 --> 05:29:38,400
country to go to the front lines. Find me anyone

3885
05:29:38,959 --> 05:29:47,119
anyone in corporate America today in senior leadership that not

3886
05:29:47,159 --> 05:29:49,439
only served. There's lots of men that serve that have

3887
05:29:49,680 --> 05:29:54,520
hold those positions at least a handful. But how many

3888
05:29:54,599 --> 05:29:58,759
of them are going to step down from those positions

3889
05:30:00,759 --> 05:30:04,680
and fight on the front line if their nation is

3890
05:30:04,720 --> 05:30:08,319
ever called to arms. We used to be better.

3891
05:30:08,880 --> 05:30:11,759
Speaker 1: Unheard of. Yeah, it used to be. That just doesn't happen.

3892
05:30:12,240 --> 05:30:13,479
That doesn't happen anymore.

3893
05:30:13,959 --> 05:30:20,200
Speaker 2: All of this stops tomorrow, all of it. This hell

3894
05:30:20,799 --> 05:30:29,799
we live in, this frail house of a once great house,

3895
05:30:32,240 --> 05:30:43,159
this amazing place. It turned into a haunted house, a

3896
05:30:43,200 --> 05:30:47,759
house of like horrors. Now all of this ends tomorrow.

3897
05:30:50,680 --> 05:30:56,560
When the men with money realized that some things, in

3898
05:30:56,599 --> 05:31:09,880
fact most things, are more important than money. These men

3899
05:31:11,159 --> 05:31:16,319
knew that already instinctively. Somehow it's been conditioned out of us.

3900
05:31:16,400 --> 05:31:19,880
I don't know how, but I'm sure it wasn't easy,

3901
05:31:19,919 --> 05:31:22,680
and I'm sure it didn't happen quickly, but it happened.

3902
05:31:25,200 --> 05:31:30,240
These men knew that there were things more valuable than money,

3903
05:31:33,200 --> 05:31:40,520
that there were risks of loss far worse than money.

3904
05:31:42,040 --> 05:31:45,479
There are worse things, as we are finding out today,

3905
05:31:47,200 --> 05:31:57,880
than losing money and the sum total of our past.

3906
05:31:58,000 --> 05:32:03,880
And well, what's that quote from the movie The Patriots

3907
05:32:04,000 --> 05:32:06,799
or the only quote of that movie? I like, He's like,

3908
05:32:07,240 --> 05:32:11,080
he says that my greatest fear was that my past

3909
05:32:11,080 --> 05:32:17,479
sins would one day come home to roost. Like sorry,

3910
05:32:17,520 --> 05:32:21,880
the ghosts of my past sins would come home to roost,

3911
05:32:21,919 --> 05:32:24,799
and the cost would be more than I could bear.

3912
05:32:25,319 --> 05:32:30,360
I believe it's a quote. It's a good one because

3913
05:32:33,240 --> 05:32:37,200
I hope that that's not the case with America. I

3914
05:32:37,240 --> 05:32:48,439
hope that the ghosts of are elite's sins have come

3915
05:32:48,439 --> 05:32:55,799
home to roost. We live in it. I just hope

3916
05:32:57,159 --> 05:32:59,959
that the cost is not more than the nation can bear.

3917
05:33:02,959 --> 05:33:08,599
But he would later lead the entire American Expeditionary Force

3918
05:33:08,959 --> 05:33:13,319
and exited the war as a brigadier general. He would

3919
05:33:13,319 --> 05:33:19,919
then go on to chair the Sears Robock Company. He

3920
05:33:20,000 --> 05:33:24,119
became one of the most important business leaders, not only

3921
05:33:24,200 --> 05:33:27,799
in the company's history but in the country at the time,

3922
05:33:28,279 --> 05:33:32,360
serving as its president from nineteen twenty eight until nineteen

3923
05:33:32,439 --> 05:33:43,439
thirty nine. Also found at all State the pretty serious dude.

3924
05:33:45,240 --> 05:33:48,000
To give you an idea of his bona fides as

3925
05:33:48,040 --> 05:34:00,880
far as American Anglo aristocracy is, he in nineteen fifty

3926
05:34:01,000 --> 05:34:09,400
was admitted into the Fraternal and Hereditary Society of the

3927
05:34:09,439 --> 05:34:16,080
Cincinnati If you know, you know, I don't leave it

3928
05:34:16,080 --> 05:34:33,360
at that. But these people, these people weren't like the

3929
05:34:33,479 --> 05:34:41,319
men like I just see these men and I look

3930
05:34:41,400 --> 05:34:50,959
at like our guys, and the shoes that we have

3931
05:34:51,040 --> 05:34:58,959
to fill are immense. Yes, we have been kate kept

3932
05:35:00,840 --> 05:35:09,319
away from the wealth of our nation. And I say

3933
05:35:09,360 --> 05:35:13,880
that rather hypocritically because some of us, myself included, have

3934
05:35:13,959 --> 05:35:20,880
not been. But I know most of our guys have

3935
05:35:22,520 --> 05:35:26,840
so the bounty of the greatest country in the history

3936
05:35:26,840 --> 05:35:31,520
of the world. Their inheritance has been kept from them.

3937
05:35:31,959 --> 05:35:38,400
So as far as positions of prominence in our leading

3938
05:35:39,119 --> 05:35:52,840
business institutions, cultural institutions, and political institutions like ESAU, that

3939
05:35:53,080 --> 05:36:04,479
inheritance has been stolen through trickery and deceit. So these

3940
05:36:06,159 --> 05:36:10,400
men's positions of prominence are not shoes that I can

3941
05:36:10,439 --> 05:36:18,799
reasonably expect our guys to fill, but their character, their

3942
05:36:18,840 --> 05:36:37,919
sense of duty, and their commitment to America, the nation

3943
05:36:38,119 --> 05:36:43,840
that is a sum total of the internet or sory,

3944
05:36:43,880 --> 05:36:54,599
intergenerational what's the word to put it. I guess I

3945
05:36:54,639 --> 05:37:01,680
don't want to get too metaphysical, but we believe intrinsically

3946
05:37:05,400 --> 05:37:14,560
that there is some type of Well, every now and

3947
05:37:14,599 --> 05:37:19,360
then science throws us a bone, right, science confirms something

3948
05:37:20,319 --> 05:37:26,439
that surprises science, but does not surprise us people of faith,

3949
05:37:29,000 --> 05:37:32,119
all right, And one of those things is the discovery

3950
05:37:32,119 --> 05:37:37,319
of epigenetic memory. It's a very real thing. We can

3951
05:37:37,479 --> 05:37:41,880
test it in entirely controlled environments. Now first it was

3952
05:37:41,919 --> 05:37:44,720
one hundred monkeys thing that I think I mentioned on

3953
05:37:46,840 --> 05:37:53,040
our show with Thomas Astral and Jay Burden yea also

3954
05:37:53,080 --> 05:37:57,840
a great guy. But we can we can replicate it

3955
05:37:57,840 --> 05:38:04,319
in the lab and entirely close environments right where you know,

3956
05:38:04,520 --> 05:38:08,080
using different color spiders and things like that, where you

3957
05:38:08,119 --> 05:38:18,400
know chimp will you know, associates some very negative stimuli

3958
05:38:19,520 --> 05:38:24,479
to certain colors and shapes, and their offspring are inherently

3959
05:38:26,279 --> 05:38:30,479
i'm sorry, instinctly scared of those same colors and shapes

3960
05:38:31,119 --> 05:38:45,360
within one generation. So our consciousness, right, is there is

3961
05:38:45,400 --> 05:38:57,000
that innate nature of it, that observer, that passive participant,

3962
05:38:57,200 --> 05:39:05,479
that is pure awareness, that is that's our soul, that

3963
05:39:05,599 --> 05:39:10,040
is our spirit. But then there is our consciousness, our

3964
05:39:10,360 --> 05:39:17,000
conscious mind, the part of our soul that is us

3965
05:39:18,279 --> 05:39:28,319
and not God. That is a sum total of our memories,

3966
05:39:28,919 --> 05:39:38,479
our life. So if a portion of memory is inheritable,

3967
05:39:40,400 --> 05:39:55,439
intergenerational memory, then consciousness it's impossible to deny that there

3968
05:39:55,479 --> 05:40:05,080
is an element of intergenerational consciousness in a people and

3969
05:40:06,240 --> 05:40:14,279
Ethnos were racial consciousness in the real sense, not in

3970
05:40:14,400 --> 05:40:19,240
the rhetorical sense like the left uses. But there is

3971
05:40:20,119 --> 05:40:29,720
a real, living conscious entity that is in some total

3972
05:40:32,040 --> 05:40:40,919
of the memories of each generation. I don't think I'm

3973
05:40:40,919 --> 05:40:43,639
doing an adequate job of explaining. I'm a little slow today,

3974
05:40:46,439 --> 05:40:48,479
but the results of this are undeniable.

3975
05:40:49,080 --> 05:40:53,200
Speaker 1: Go ahead, please, honestly, honestly, I think that's a conversation

3976
05:40:53,319 --> 05:40:59,400
for another day. That deserves, that deserves its own episode.

3977
05:40:59,319 --> 05:41:02,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to. I'd like to have that chat

3978
05:41:02,080 --> 05:41:04,680
with maybe Thomas too, because he was the one that

3979
05:41:04,799 --> 05:41:08,000
initially gave that light bulb. But like the people that

3980
05:41:08,119 --> 05:41:18,040
serve are moved by that consciousness. Right, those are shoes

3981
05:41:18,080 --> 05:41:25,720
that you can fill. I don't think the ancients were

3982
05:41:26,000 --> 05:41:31,880
dumb in their worship, at least in some spiritual capacity

3983
05:41:32,639 --> 05:41:44,279
their ancestors alongside their gods, because I mean, you know, anyways,

3984
05:41:45,240 --> 05:41:47,400
so we can fill those shoes. We don't have to

3985
05:41:47,439 --> 05:41:53,919
fill the shoes, you know, financially or economically or in

3986
05:41:54,000 --> 05:41:59,319
positions of prominence yet, but we have to be able

3987
05:41:59,360 --> 05:42:02,560
to fill those men. These men's shoes in our concept

3988
05:42:03,919 --> 05:42:15,799
and are mortal devotion to those things, to be ready

3989
05:42:16,159 --> 05:42:20,799
to fill those shoes, to be to be deserving of

3990
05:42:20,919 --> 05:42:24,919
filling those shoes. And when I look at these guys

3991
05:42:26,360 --> 05:42:31,599
and then I look at our guys today, we need

3992
05:42:31,639 --> 05:42:37,680
a lot of work. Just like the black pilling, for instance,

3993
05:42:37,919 --> 05:42:47,840
the constant defeatism. If you were in a trench, that

3994
05:42:48,200 --> 05:42:53,400
type of attitude would get everyone killed, if they didn't

3995
05:42:53,439 --> 05:42:54,439
kill you themselves.

3996
05:42:59,720 --> 05:43:00,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

3997
05:43:02,240 --> 05:43:04,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, like we have to be better.

3998
05:43:08,479 --> 05:43:13,400
Speaker 1: Well we yeah, I'll end it. I'll end it on

3999
05:43:13,479 --> 05:43:17,880
this is you know, you mentioned Oran and an episode

4000
05:43:17,919 --> 05:43:26,439
he did and he was talking about the Antioch thing. Well,

4001
05:43:26,520 --> 05:43:35,400
what the is that? That's some bullsh bullshit inter Protestant fighting.

4002
05:43:36,560 --> 05:43:39,080
You know, sign this to make sign this to prove

4003
05:43:39,119 --> 05:43:44,599
you're not a fascist or whatever. But the the the

4004
05:43:44,680 --> 05:43:51,599
point of Oran's that whole episode, And you know a

4005
05:43:51,639 --> 05:43:54,919
couple of comments I've made recently is that it seems

4006
05:43:54,959 --> 05:44:01,119
like now that the left is seemingly defeated, instead of

4007
05:44:01,159 --> 05:44:05,560
the right focusing on either utterly destroying the left so

4008
05:44:05,639 --> 05:44:10,880
they never come back, or maybe looking at some problems,

4009
05:44:10,919 --> 05:44:15,560
some big problems on the right, they're arguing over memes

4010
05:44:16,000 --> 05:44:20,080
there are you. I mean, they're basically unfollowing people going

4011
05:44:20,119 --> 05:44:23,560
to war with people over the meaning of memes, and

4012
05:44:24,880 --> 05:44:27,599
we can't be expected to be ready for the kind

4013
05:44:27,599 --> 05:44:32,479
of fight you're talking about if we're fighting with each

4014
05:44:32,520 --> 05:44:38,000
other over this meme or you know, what is you know?

4015
05:44:38,119 --> 05:44:41,479
Or oh well, you know, if if you're if you're

4016
05:44:41,520 --> 05:44:44,799
against Israel, if you're against Israel right now because they're

4017
05:44:44,840 --> 05:44:48,639
at war, then you're obviously on the side of the Palestinians.

4018
05:44:48,840 --> 05:44:51,840
I mean it just and if that's if that's true,

4019
05:44:51,880 --> 05:44:54,959
you're a third worldist And it's just bullshit. It's just

4020
05:44:55,439 --> 05:44:58,599
the right, got it. The right decided they were going

4021
05:44:58,680 --> 05:45:01,360
to get into The right is like, oh well look

4022
05:45:01,400 --> 05:45:04,520
at this. I mean, Trump got elected and you know

4023
05:45:04,599 --> 05:45:09,360
the woke is you see people taking removing their pronouns

4024
05:45:09,520 --> 05:45:12,240
and stuff like that. So they're defeated, so let's fight

4025
05:45:12,279 --> 05:45:12,840
with each other.

4026
05:45:13,479 --> 05:45:17,680
Speaker 2: You know what? Just sounds like to me what the

4027
05:45:17,799 --> 05:45:22,439
Army Rangers and also NATO has been nice enough to

4028
05:45:22,439 --> 05:45:25,240
do something similar to the documents called cognitive warfare. It

4029
05:45:25,360 --> 05:45:32,159
cannot the Army Rangers. The Army Rangers have their own

4030
05:45:32,200 --> 05:45:37,919
psychological warfare outfit and you can get a hold of

4031
05:45:37,919 --> 05:45:44,720
the the training manual doctrine. They even I think it's this.

4032
05:45:45,759 --> 05:45:48,200
The repository I found them on was like it's like

4033
05:45:48,240 --> 05:45:50,520
called Public and cel Intelligence. It's a great site for

4034
05:45:52,319 --> 05:45:59,119
policy documents and training manuals, like a training manual for

4035
05:45:59,279 --> 05:46:01,319
like anything. No terry is really like not just like

4036
05:46:01,360 --> 05:46:03,599
a you know, it's not an instruction manual. It's really

4037
05:46:03,639 --> 05:46:09,240
like everything, right, it's a complete text. But the Public

4038
05:46:09,240 --> 05:46:11,400
Intelligence I believe was the site I got it from

4039
05:46:11,560 --> 05:46:14,400
in this particular instance. But it basically goes through what

4040
05:46:14,680 --> 05:46:19,919
syops actually are, and I think it's very informative, and

4041
05:46:19,959 --> 05:46:23,159
I think we would do well in knowing it because

4042
05:46:23,200 --> 05:46:25,720
all the things that we get chalked up so that

4043
05:46:25,759 --> 05:46:28,520
we chalk up to syops, right, like hoaxes or trying

4044
05:46:28,560 --> 05:46:32,040
to convince us of things that aren't real, right, like

4045
05:46:32,119 --> 05:46:35,000
holograms or whatever. Like all the stuff that Alex Jones,

4046
05:46:35,200 --> 05:46:39,880
you know, screams, are syops, right, Like these fake things

4047
05:46:39,919 --> 05:46:42,400
that didn't happen, trying to convince us of not real things.

4048
05:46:43,040 --> 05:46:48,159
That represents less than ten percent of what a SYOPS

4049
05:46:48,240 --> 05:46:52,759
unit actually does. Right, So our whole conception of what

4050
05:46:52,840 --> 05:46:57,319
a SYOP is is less than ten percent of what

4051
05:46:57,479 --> 05:47:05,759
psychological operations soldiers right, and operatives are actually doing. Do

4052
05:47:05,799 --> 05:47:09,279
you know what ninety percent of their time, energy, and

4053
05:47:09,360 --> 05:47:16,040
resources is spent on sowing discord and creating infighting in

4054
05:47:16,080 --> 05:47:21,799
a target group. It's what ninety percent of sy oups

4055
05:47:21,919 --> 05:47:27,520
is on the ground in sounds familiar, Yeah, it does, right,

4056
05:47:27,520 --> 05:47:35,959
because the number one priority is to break enemy cohesion

4057
05:47:36,119 --> 05:47:47,639
right and get the various leadership individuals or organizations in

4058
05:47:47,680 --> 05:47:52,159
an enemy population or an enemy fighting force to fight

4059
05:47:52,200 --> 05:47:56,520
with each other. Because when that happens, logistics breaks down,

4060
05:47:57,040 --> 05:48:01,560
command and control breaks down, and most importantly, trust breaks down. Right.

4061
05:48:01,639 --> 05:48:06,240
If you don't trust this part of your outfit, you

4062
05:48:06,279 --> 05:48:10,040
aren't going to be confident that they will resupply you

4063
05:48:10,799 --> 05:48:14,880
or reinforce you. Right, So that completely changes your paradigm

4064
05:48:14,880 --> 05:48:19,279
of what is possible on the battlefield. Right, you won't

4065
05:48:19,279 --> 05:48:27,080
do certain things. There's simply sewing, creating infighting, and sowing discord.

4066
05:48:28,279 --> 05:48:30,639
All of the second and third order effects of that

4067
05:48:31,799 --> 05:48:38,919
on the battlefield are huge, So much so it is

4068
05:48:38,959 --> 05:48:43,680
so worthwhile that it represents ninety percent of what psychological

4069
05:48:43,680 --> 05:48:48,479
operations units devote their time to. It's all about infighting.

4070
05:48:48,680 --> 05:48:53,360
Infighting is the name of the fucking game, and When

4071
05:48:53,400 --> 05:48:58,959
I see contrived controversies that no one asked for taking

4072
05:48:59,000 --> 05:49:06,840
over the entire disc course, I get suspicious because if

4073
05:49:06,880 --> 05:49:08,680
I have to ask, why the fuck does this matter?

4074
05:49:09,200 --> 05:49:14,119
And whose issue was this prior? Right, was this like

4075
05:49:14,159 --> 05:49:18,520
the hobby horse of any particular like subset of people. No,

4076
05:49:18,560 --> 05:49:26,599
it wasn't. This is suspicious as fuck, and anybody fighting

4077
05:49:26,759 --> 05:49:32,400
on either side of this argument is dumb or disingenuous.

4078
05:49:32,479 --> 05:49:38,799
This is this is an actual siop. Right, fucking holograms

4079
05:49:39,919 --> 05:49:45,319
or you know, no planes or Project Bluebean convince you

4080
05:49:45,400 --> 05:49:49,560
of any alien like that's not syops. This is syops.

4081
05:49:50,560 --> 05:49:51,560
This dumb shit.

4082
05:49:58,159 --> 05:50:03,799
Speaker 1: Ye. Yeah, I think I think that's where we should

4083
05:50:03,840 --> 05:50:04,080
end it.

4084
05:50:04,360 --> 05:50:06,639
Speaker 2: I think so too. Man, it's a pleasure, thank you

4085
05:50:06,639 --> 05:50:07,119
for having me.

4086
05:50:07,080 --> 05:50:12,000
Speaker 1: On always always, and let's get let's get back together

4087
05:50:12,040 --> 05:50:16,639
with Astrol and Thomas and uh and Jay real soon

4088
05:50:16,759 --> 05:50:19,040
and pumps some of that out because people are I

4089
05:50:19,040 --> 05:50:20,639
think people are loving that too, So.

4090
05:50:20,639 --> 05:50:21,880
Speaker 2: I really like that.

4091
05:50:23,599 --> 05:50:25,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, we do a lot of stuff in real time

4092
05:50:25,439 --> 05:50:26,520
there too, So.

4093
05:50:26,680 --> 05:50:29,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think I think panels are the

4094
05:50:29,400 --> 05:50:33,799
way to go, like for like current stuff or like

4095
05:50:33,840 --> 05:50:37,040
stuff that's affect like stuff like this. A panel is

4096
05:50:37,080 --> 05:50:40,279
perfect for stuff that's afflicting our guys and the scene

4097
05:50:40,360 --> 05:50:44,840
like right now. Also for planning, like objectives for you know.

4098
05:50:45,560 --> 05:50:49,240
Speaker 1: Anyways, that's something that's something we should definitely get together

4099
05:50:49,279 --> 05:50:52,520
and talk with Thomas about. Yeah, absolutely, because he's gonna

4100
05:50:52,520 --> 05:50:54,959
have a lot on that, all right, man, I appreciate you,

4101
05:50:55,040 --> 05:50:55,880
Thank you very much.